The Express. — London, England, 1852-01-22 00:00:00

AMERICA. y e acedav afternoon, at haltpast two o'clock. the I 0,.,1 States mail stn-am ship l'acitle, Captain Nye, td in the Nlersey from New York. The Pacific im prised fm New York at half past twelve o'clock on ixt , loth instant, and brings 39 peasengers and 4 o.ossi dollars in specie on freight. On :he day of the departure of the Pacific., a tele tine c ommunication waa received in New York s. Phil idelphia, announcing the safe arrival on the o val • al iv at the latter place of the screw steamer lis ot Pittsburg. after a psialage of 40 days from 0 , Tol, hie royal mail stenm ship Cambria arrived at Boston to the Nth instant at 1 p.m. Ibe principal and most interesting intelligence by this arrival is the eotiversational banquet given to N,..uth at Wmaiington. on Wednesday, the ith inst., at Mc National Motel. About MO persons were unwit • t The Ilan. W. 11. King, President of the if, supported by Kossuth, and Speaker • .qi IO• ri:glit. and the 1100. I hiniel Webster on Sci end distinguished individuals occupied srats near the chair. fin brat tiviat sae "The President of the United at." to which Mr. Webster responded. Ile said: lam h, r.- taniaht, Me. President, with other heal. of .T.artauut• 11, long to the ea, cutive administration of Iram at. and oho are the enutidt ntial councillors , l'usolcsit. I fiat• in their behalf so well us my own, j •. 1. r the company our th inks for the manner in • ::0 nt ha. lawn rev lied by the meeting here to assure you. air. and all present, that in g0..4 sobs tow.iras the guests of the • d is Alt...b.:aria t.• the great principles of political ~a p platis. 1, mid national indriatolcuce—(applau...) so man win , p atal.rs in a higher dearce than the of the United saes, In the 'Kuala feelings of 'h i s sot t oonaunity. (Applause ) Mr. king. in giving the timid of the evening. said : •,••• to which etsry it avnns. American would cots a a - , a meat& lie. in Common vi Oh stem, while the struggle was going on, rajoicril in her arta mourned lor temporary defeat.. We honour...l those • •s azalea, aril we, prepared to sai rilise all to obtain' l`s eves Wc lol!oirral our illustrious guest in his !poure r-, rsi;e, were the tint to till on him to return, and were the 1.4 that et re Toady to receive him with malt arms to the la, lof lib. eta and of hospitality. The toast I give to you a this u.presented in the p coin of our i s a mud amat, mina proved herselt worthy to be free to the virtue and valour fit her son.. the law of nations, and tic dictates of justitv, alike demand that she shall have fair in her struaale for nubile. sidence." (Euthusiastic sheerina In n ply Kossuth made a long speech, which he thus commenced : A. on,• l'jnto. the Epirote, stood among the sanators N o m., ale., with an earnest word of self-conscious few. •!,... , tergo:1“1 the condition of the world, and arrested mate} 41114* in their m welt. thus. lull of admiration and annum.... I state' betore you. Legislatun• of the new ~paa that glorious hail of your people's collective mak stn. The tapitol of old yet stands, hut the spirit has from it and came tour to yours, purified by the .‘t rty. The old stands, a mournful monument of the traalay of human things —y oars an a sanctuary of tad r.;hts. The beamed with the red !ware of cons sma, now darkened by opprtasion's gloomy night —yours a-t. with fr.. dons's bright ray. Ihe old absorbed the m oral hr it. own ta utralised glory --your. protects your own scion i•atinst aloorption lien by itself. The old was awful web im , trictrd power—yours is glorious with having T•!11.1. 4 1 it. At the view of the old, nations ▪ hi itcw .4 Yours, humanity hops. To the old, saisfor a,- w s . only cotrodusid with fettered hands to kneel at trim:shod 101 Fo r , r's heel.—to yours, the triumph of shteti.4l is drpt!..l to unfortunate oaths, invited the I.a nit of a wo, and whe re king. and l'irsers never are Or their pow. ra. might, and wealth, there the per % .ut.d chit ( of it down-troadca nation is welcomed as your ere r. puhlic's Cu, st. pen ciariy b cume he is persecuted, eat por. In the old, the terrible vevictis was the fa,: sin yours, protection to the oppressed, malediction to = sow s. and conslat.on to the vanquished in sjast .lust while out of the old a conquered world • riled. you its yours provide for the common cotthdera• tar later et. of a tirntory larger than the conquered w .s:3 of the il 1. Thum sat man boosting their will to be tb sovereign of the world—here sit men whose glory is to ict , t ,, :•ll:, the law of nature anti of nature's Om!, and to what their sovereign, the people, wills. Sir, there o hat. ry in them parallels. History of past ages, • hatory of future centuries, may be often r • - n1 din tvw words. The small particulars to which the yoaon of heist men cling• with fervent sal, as if the atm.:a of nu-n could arrest the rotation of destiny's tits I—there particulars die away. It is the issue which history, and that issue is always logical. There is a a • aity of coeseqsenees wherever the fleet oity of position • ..••• • Priaeiples are the Alpha; they must finish with 1.1.: o. and they will. Thus history say be toll often is k• • Ids. Before the heroic struggles of Greece first 0‘.:,.; your country's sympathy for the fate of freedom 'as ir ,`c--then so far 'distant, now so near—Chateaus ►reseed herpeneel to he in Athens, sail tic heard from a s.: tut raised upon the I'mpylrenua ruin., • Turkish ar.,o. in Arabic language, annolancing the lava• of hours t. the Christian• of alincreastown. What immense history lath. ..1 tart of • Turkish Imam crying out, "Pray, sac, tin hat it running fast, and theludgment draws bat SW, there is 110+1 history of future ages tutus in the honour besto w . by you to my bumble self. The first gm. roar of independent Hungary, driven from lho none Leal by Russian tailrace, an exile on Turkish Si, proteet.al by* Mahomsnedan Sultan against the bloods th.nt •ftbri-tiat, tyrants ' cast hack • prisoner to far Asia lrt diphira fro m his Asiatic prison by America, crai-ina the Atl into. charged with the hopes of Europe's CT mations. pleading, a poor c rile, before the people at rrpul•lic, Ins down-trodden country's wrongs, • t its iitinsate connealas with the fate Of the European ht. and with the boldness of • just cause, claiming Pr priariphs of the Christian religion to be raised to a • fit names. and to see not only the boldness of the poor t. !--rair,n. hut to see him consoled by the sympathy of fa ...--aa a acouraired by individuals, mmeiationa, meetings, an! -Una, supported by operative aid, and arectial toy t -flare« and by the government as the nation's guest, t ... a t of generosity with that honour which only (4. run le fore him received—and that man received it of gratitude—with honours such a. no potentate ri.r aft anti this banquet here, WWI the toast • eels I hair to thank for; oh, indeed, sir, there it • his. t -r! of haw- ages in all these facts." li.4o•lth then glanced at the fate of Ilangary, vol a tribute to the greatness of the United States %aped by union, and touched upon the principle ut :I , m-intervention : W. hare no fair play (be said); the Cossack already re:.. by Louis Napoleon's usurpation, to the very borders et th. Atlarthe ocean. One of your great statesmen—sow, to my 'bee sorrow, bound to the sick bed of far advanced 51. -a: u' that I am deprived of the advice which his win. cam e , teel hare imparted to me—your great statesman told C. world do years ago that Paris was transferred to St. T. I. reliant. What would he now say, when St. I'eterburg o .reasferred to Paris, and Europe is but an appendix to S.a..s" Alas' Europe can no more secure to Europe fair p:sy Albion only remains ; but even Albion tuts • Nor. rueful cleave over the waves. Still we will stand an our place—sink or swim, live or die. Yon kriow the word. It is your own. We will follow it. It will he a bloody path to tread. Despots have eon. pond against the world. Tenor spreads over Europe, and anticipating per.. ution rules from Paris to Penh. There I , 4 elootsy silent. , like the silence of nature before the tenets of a hurricane. It is • sensible silence, only dis ter.ed by the thousand fold rattling of the muskets by which N4p.1.4,0, mist.lers that people which gave him • "ni. who n he was an exile, and by the groans of new mar ter. in !se ily, Milan, Vienna, and l'esth. The very rympa- Dv which I met with in England, and was expected to meet lei., throw• my sinter. into the dungeons of Austria. W.ll, fears will he done. The heart may break, but duty eel he done. We will stand in our place, though to se in tiv,pe there be an fair play. But so much I hope, that no ;ist man on earth can charge me with unbecoming arro gant., when here, on this ,oil of freedom, I kneel down led raise my prayer to Gutl—" Almighty Father of home- Ley, will thy merciful arm not raise • power on earth to preteet the law of nations, when there are so mane to "Late it'" It i. • prayer, and nothing else. What *'QM f.llllllill to the oppressed if they were not per mitt'd to pray' The rest is in the hand of (iod. Gentle s.% I know where I stand. No honour, no encouraging r. al Maity, will make me ever f orge t where I stand, and what is due from me to you. Here my duty is silently to lout what you or your wisdom will be pleased to pro -30,,n,'" about that which public opinion knows to be my toyer and my aim, and be it your will to pr o n ounce , or h e s your will not to eke notice of it, I will understand your will, and how before it with devotion, hopelne, PerbaPs. Lot my bean full of admiration, love, end gratitude to your aseereus peeph., to your glorious land. But one single word earn hire, I may he permitted to gay, only such • word as ft) erui• me from bring misunderstood. I came to the n0....aund..1 ....aund..1 pi "pie of the United States to obtain its generous tie wive sympathy for the impending struggle of 0 9Pflooed fro • doin en th. European continent, and I freely interpreted the hop. . mid wiehes which these oppressed nati ons enter tain; bu t as to your great republic, ae • state ea a power on earth, I Mand before the statesmen, senators, and legislators of that repuldie, only to ascertain from their wisdom and oP-ri. nee what is their julleoni ot upon a question of nip bon il law and international right. I hoped and now hope th..,. they will, by the fentexling events on the other great t '''tioent, Del induced to pronounce in time their vote ~ alit that law and those rights, and I hoped and hope that penottheing their vote it will be in favour of the Le , aci principles of international justice, and consonant 'Mt their republicans institutions and their democratic LI. That is all I know end Europe knows ; the immense in ' 4 l't 41 'meh • pronunciation from such • place. Hot Levi r had I the impious wish to try to entangle this great ." Pohl' , into dieleulties inconsistent with its own welfare, iit. ..wit enurity, it. own interest. I rather repeatedly and am. stly .hvien.d that • w ar on this account by your Matey is utterly iailYlabilde, and a mere phantom. I rawly, l ..1 on .1 that the United State, (remained masters of their , "''.n.. and under every circumstance will act as they judge -,steat with the supreme duties to themselves. But I ' . 411 , 1 il ty, that such a 'Declaring of just principles would ' , .....re te the nation, of Europe (air play la au: struggk THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, JANUARY 22, 1852. Cbt Court. WINDSOR, JAW. 21. The following had the honour of dining at the royal table last evening:—Hi. Orate the Duke of Welling ton, Lord and Lady John Itumvll, the Right Hon. Sir F. and Lady Arabella Baring, and the Rev. Mr. Birch. The band of the Royal Horse Ouanla attended in the Castle during dinner, and played the following selection : oet rtor•—•• ice.ul.4o Waits —.Bird of Paradise" Kosig, Nelyntion—.• Vreysolints" Yisn4- 3th Symphony - iliac. of Nalco" Iler Majesty's private band afterwards attended, aid performed the following compositions Overrule —•• Zanspe .. Beryls. ilwirteito (Op. 43) -allegro t tlipts, Tempo di Kisumu° —Two Vining). V sad Tkilessertie, ' Mame. Minton, Day, Hlll, asd S. Mpg) Euryantlar" Tho Queen walked in the Home park and the Slopes this ' morning. The Prince of Wales, the l'rineess Royal, anti younger members of the royal family, took their usual walking and pony esercise. l'rince Albert went out shooting this forenoon, attended by Licut.-geueral Sir Edward Bowater, Colonel lion. C. B. Phipps, Colonel lion. C. they, and Colonel F. 11. Seymour. Lord Byron and Lieut.-general Sir E. Bowater have suc ceeded the Earl of Morley mid Captain lion. J. Denman in their duties of Lord and Groom ha Waiting to her Xl"jesty. Invitations have been received by the following person• ages, anti they are expected to arrive at the Castle to-dry : Lord and I. uly Seymour and the lion. J. Ilernouno St. Maur, Viscount Cunning, Sir James and Lady Graham, and Colonel Wylde. Lord and Lady John Russell took their departure this morning. Mr. Mitchell, M.P., had an interview with Lord John Russell yesterday at his official residence in Downing , oerect. Mr. Benham Carter had also an interview with his lordship yesterday. he lion. Colonel Anson had an interview with the Chan , oiler of the Exchequer at his official residence in Downing , street on Tuesday. A deputation from housdiolders and residents in the district of Burnham, Somentetshire, bad an in,erview yes terday with the General Board of health, at their offices, Whitehall. Thu deputation consisted of Moons. John Gunter, George Reed, and Samuel Hobbs, members of the Local Board of health fur the Burnham District. Mr. it. S. MacDunnell, Outernor of the Gambia, had an interview with Earl Grey, at the Colonial-office, yes terday. • The Cambridge University Commission had a meeting yesterday, at the official risidenee of the First Lord of the Treasury, is Downing -street. Present The Bishop of Chester, the Dean of Ely, Sir Juhn Herschel, thi Rev. Professor Sedgaitk, and the Roe. W. 11. Howson (secre tory.) Lord Montengle had an interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday. Admiral Dutidas bad also an interview with the Right lion. Baronet. Lord uud Lady John Russell arrived in town yesterday from Windsor Castle. The larque. of Lansdowne kft towu yesterday fur his seat, liowtaal Park, Wiltshire. Mr. Crompton will, it is stated, be the new Judge in place of Justice Patteson. The vacant Mastership in the Exchequer has been filled up by the appointment of Mr. Chatfield, a solicitor. state of the class to which I have alluded to leave them without it. I believe with the present amount of mental power and intellectual capacity which we see amongst the working classes, you could not with safety and wisdom leave them much longer without the elective franchise. It it known to matt of you, that certain resolutions were proposed at a meeting held at Manchester ; that was a very influen tial meeting, convened by gentlemen of great res pectability, many of them gentlemen of great wealth, many of them I have known for a number of years, 'lrving taken part with them in other struggles, men of tried patriotism and of great iiifluenee. That meeting, as I have said, pasted certain resolutions, of which I ap proved in spirit and in substance ; but, as most of you know, I did nut approve of all the details. (Cries of " But we do.") The question then area with me whether, as I did not approve of all the details of tho Manchester resolu time, 1 could with consistency of principle attend the meeting here, at which these resolutions were brought for ward. And I answered this question to my own satisfac- ' tion, but 1 don't know whether to yours or not, that 1 could, with consistency of principle, attend the meeting on thugs grounds. First of all, I approve, as I said, in spirit and in substance, of thew resolaVons, and of almost every point in them. Secondly, I was convinced I could with propriety and consistency attend this meeting, because it did not seem to me to be st all necessary, when we agreed in substance and in spirit, that there should be perfect una nimity of opinion iu all matters of detail, and I felt con vinced that if 1 candidly and freely stated the points on which I differed with those resolutions, I should be respect fully listened to, while the observations I made would re ceive all the weight to which they arc entitled. (11.er, hear.) Thirdly, because I thought it highly desirable that men who differ on some of the details should meet together and freely state their opinion., that those who went beyond those resolutions, and these who did not go so far, ',humid frankly state their views to each ether. This mode of diem.- lion bad a tendency to enlargement of mind and to communi cation of useful awl valuable infurmat on from one mind to another. Now, sir, I have said I do not entirely agree sills these resolutions. But I agree with all my heart in desiring, as I have already explained, a very largo eaten don of the franchise, an extension a hich will bona fide pie to a huge proportion of the working classes of Eng land that franchise which they are so well qualified to ex• ercise and to which I think they are most righteously en titled. (Loud cheers.) The point on which Ido not agree with the Manchester resolutions is the client to which it is proposed the franchise should go—that was to the extent of household suffrage, without defining the length of retidenee, merely stating that it should be ouch a length of residence as would satisfy the person who had to form tho ngiater that the residence was real and &ens Now the view I have taken and expressed for some years is, that we could with safety go to the extent of the municipal franchise, making the parliamentary trenched, co-extensive with it. (A cry of "A bit further.") My hived says a bit further. ( leer, hear.) I was not dis posed to be so nice as to stop at the municipal franchise, but to go, as my friend say., a bit further. (hear, hear, and cheers.) But my reason for preferring the municipal franchise I wi:l state to you in a few words. Fiesta all I thought it desirable to adopt this franchise because it has been actually tried in practice, and there is: a strong dispo sition in the people of this country to look at precedent; this has been tried, proved to be safe, and may be adopted with the greatest ease. Secondly, because it would bring into the possession of the franchise a large proportion of the working classes. I have said this ought to h.:done. (A voice, " And we should have the ballot.") To be sure. (Cheers.) Ile then proceeded to state. that the adoption of the muni cipal franchise would in Leeds increase the number of elec tor* from 5,000 to 14.0.10, making the increase threefold. This he thought would show them ho was not a very timid reformer, as the increase world give a preponderance to the working classes. The suffrage might be further extended afterwards, and he argued that the snore gradual the exten sion was, the firmer would be the constitution, of which the suffrage formed the foundation. In conclusion, he ex poses d himself favourable to vote by ballot, the which he considered indispensable; to five years' parliaments, though he should not object to triennial parliaments ; and to the abolition of property qualification for member... lle hoped a large and bold measure of reform would be granted such as the country required, and such as the country wool., support. (Loud cheers.) The resolution was adopted. Mr. Alderman CAItBUTT moved the second resolution— " That in the opinion of this meeting the elective franchise should be widely extended and so simplified as to admit of the easy formation of an honest register of voters ; it there• fore recommends that the franchise be based upon occulta tion and liability to the poor rate, with such limitation as to period of residence as shall be necessary to afford a guaran tee that the occupation is bona fide. It would, moreover, urge the retention of the 40s. II anchise for counties, and its extension to the owners of property of that annual value, whether derived from freehold, copy hold, or leasehold tenures. The whole constituency would thus consist of occupiers rated to the relief of the poor and of owners of property of the annual value of 40s. This meeting would rather record its opinion that no extension of the franchise will make the House of , Commons a fair representation of the nation, without a con siderable change in the distribution of the electoral power. It therefore strongly urges that, where practical and con venient, small and neighbouring boroughs be united, and form one borough ; that where such union is not practica ble, small boroughs cease to return members, and that the existing constituencies merge in the constituencies of the county in which they are situate ; that corresponding to tho extent to which small boroughs shall be united, or shall cease to return members to parliament, new boroughs bo created from the populous towns now unrepresented, and that additional members be conferred on the metropolitan and other first-class boroughs in the United Kingdom." Mr. DAVID GREEN next addressed the meeting. lie demanded universal suffrage, because it took away the plea of injustice ; having that, he would have better hopes that they would become ashamed of spending 40,000,0001. per annum in foolish tobacco and worse drink, and spend their money in a thousand better ways, which intelligence and education would teach them. (Applause.) But, whilst in favour of universal suffrage, he would accept with thankfulness the household suffrage now proposed, and would unite with the middle classes to get it, believing that with it in possession the working classes would be the better able to get all they wanted. He should there fore, with great pleasure, second the resolution. Mr. JAMES HENDERSON, a working man, expressed himself dissatisfied with the resolution not going further than household suffrage; and, though regarding that as a great boon, he thought they ought to declare for manhood suffrage, and he therefore moved an amendment to that effect. Mr. JOHN FIRTH, a working man, seconded the amendment. Much discussion ensued in reference to this amendment, a great part of the meeting evidently being in favour of its withdrawal, and at length Mr. Ilendensn consented to withdraw it until the resolution moved by Mr. Alderman Carbutt had been put to the meeting. The resolution pro posed by Mr. Carbutt was accordingly put and carried unanimously. Mr. HENDERSON then again proposed his resolution in a aligntly altered form, declaring that, while it was politic to give the suffrage to all persons on the rate books, it was yet the right of the people to have manhood suffrage. He insisted upon his right to have this amendment put, and on a show of hands being taken, The CHAIRMAN said he was unable to decide which had the majority—the yeas or noes. He was about to cell for another show of hands when a further discussion arose, many parties urging the mover of the amendiant to withdraw at, and propose it again when the other resolu tions to be brought before the meeting had been disposed of.—Mr. HENDEN,NON declined to do this, and a second show of hands was consequently taken; on which the Chairman declared that in his opinion the amendment was decidedly lost. Mr. Councillor Minium. spoved and Mr. J. C. Baa aarr seconded the following resolution, which was adopted weer. con.:—" That this meeting is of opinion that the ballot is indispensable to an honest representation, that it would greatly repress the demobilising practices so humi liating to candidates, and so degrading to the electors, which seem almost inseparable from a canvas and a poll under the existing system; and would aid most effectually in preventing the turbulence and riot with which elections have hitherto been so often at. tended. It is further of opinion that the present legal duration of parliament is much too ex t en d e d t o secure to constituencies a proper control over their representa tives ; it would, therefore, strongly urge the repeal of the Septennial AM, and the limitation of the duration of par liaments in accordance with ancient precedent, to a period not exceeding three ears;y and it moreover entirely concurs in the view expressed by the Prima Minister during the last session of parliament, that the property qualification for members of parliamentought to be abolished." On the motion of Mr. Councillor MOKOAN, the following resolution, which was seconded by Mr. Councillor CARTES, was carried unanimously That a memorial, embodying the substance of the foregoing resolutions, be signed by the chairman on behalf of the meeting, and be presented to Lord John Russell ; and that it be entrusted fur presentation to James Garth Marshall, Esq., M.P." not acquainted with their feelings; their ways are not your ways; look to of own interests; show by your own ex ample and legislation that you have an active practical con fidence in the measures you advocate. (Loud cheers.) He was afraid there was a good deal of cant in England. (Laughter.) There were men who turned the cold shoulder to those who would amend the anomalies in our own repre sentative system, the infringement of the principle of liberty that existed in this country ; and while they were shouting at meetiugs about Hungary, Austria and Bemis, you could not get them to take en active part in reform at home. (Hear.) When talking to eminent Hungarians or other foreign refugees, he wan anxious rather that they should not press him too much as to what, titter all, we had gut here. We talked about represeutation ; wo supported representative institutions; but many people meant representation with this condition, that only one man out of seven should have a vote. (Hear, hear.) Wo are for free an 1 independent voting ; but with this condition, that when • man records his vote, the publication of that vote should be compulsory, whatever his position. We talked of military power keep ing down civil freedom abroad ; but was England pre pared to withdraw its ermy from Ireland Did it not in held/hill perpetuate institutions ;contrary to jus tice and common sense, maintained there by the bayonet ? (Cheep.) These were the practical matters to which Englishmen should direct their attention, and so would they promote freedom throughout the world. Mr. Bright had touched on the cabiuet. It was now in what might be called " an interesting situation," being about to be delivered of some great reform project. (A laugh.) Whether the new birth would be "as boy or a girl," no one could esactly say; and therefore they must be a little forbearing and suspend judgment. lie said the same with regard to the removal of Lord. Palmerston. Knowing nothing, he could "ay nothing of it. But among the red-tape school, the old orthodox politicians, who had for years frequented the London clulo, and who supposed themselves to be in pianissimi of the proper parliamentary mode of governing, there was much trouble as to the state of parties. They spoke of it se an alarming symptom, that there was no party capable of taking the government in case the present party were removed from office. The old conservative party was out of gear,—not in working order. The tail was, as it were, separated from the head ; and unless some combination could be come to, either we should have n protectionist government or a con servative ono without protection ; great dangers, it was said, were in store for the country; and true patriots should endeavour to enabl e L or d Russell to struggle on till thisconservative body should be put in working order ; and then the government might be handed over, in a con stitutional manlier, to a constitutional opposition. (Laugh ter.) Mr. Ilaxlitt had explained what " a constitutional opposition and a constitutional government" meant; they were like two opposition coaches, making a great splash and splutter, but travelling on the same road, amid to arrive at the same destination. (A laugh.) That was what our orthodox politicians now thought so indispensable—that there should be some party out of office always ready to take the government on pretty nearly the same principles as the party in office. Therefore, as the protection question had divided the conservative party, thew politicians were afraid same new party with new principles might find their way into temporary power, and do what they called great injury to the country. (Cheers,) Now his opinion was, that this infirmity of' the orthodox parties furnished an opportunity to the people. He thought it was nut so advantageous to have this extraordinarily strong government, capable of setting at defiance all popular appeals, and putting down everything that did nut tend to support their own party view,. The people of this country had often got great advantages from weak governments. lie was not hurl:Ohl' very Reform Bill promised by the present government might nut be one of the happy results of its weakness—(" hear, hear," and a laugh)—and he hoped and trusted sincerely that it would be such as would enable the great body of the people to rally round the ad ministration, and give it that wholesome and proper strength which was derived from the confidence of the people. (Cheep.) Now it was difficult to find any valid argument against k just distribution of the represeutation. He knew there were great difficulties in settling the franchise. All parties excluded sonic one; even universal suffrage excluded some, and so did household suffrage, and all its degrees of 101. and rib, rental. This made it a difficult question, iuvolviug much detail. iut the proposal et Mr. Bright had the aorauMge of standing upon the existing fUutidation of the Reform Bill. It involved nu new prin ciple ; but by an extension of what was now in action, would give the vote to perhaps 3,000,000 of persons. It was simply leaving out the 101. rental qualification attached to the householder in the Referm Bill. It was, therefore, a very simple mode of extending the franchise. But as to a more just distribution of representation, there could nut be two opinions. It was a most important question, for whether the suffrage was limited or extended, there could not be a fair representation unless the number of representatives was proportioned to the combination of property and numbers ; otherwise great iojustice would be at the root of the system. The Edinburgh Itevaic contended that it never was " the object of the British constitution" to give repre sentation in proportion to property and numbers. That, perhaps, might be, with the views some took of the British constitution. All parties were rather apt to tell us " the Bri tish constitution" was on their side of the question. But he (the right honourable gentleman) never could understand what that British constitution" motet. All he knew war, there had been a succession of laws in reference to the right of voting. Undoubtedly, the Reform Act did introduce the principle of proportiuning representation to some extent to numbers and property ; Oceans, it destroyed great numbers of boroughs that had few inhabitants and little wealth, and transferred their members to Manchester and Leeds, largo seats of population and wealth. lie hoped this Edinburgh ReCiClO, which was sometimes held a sale guide as to what whig policy ought to be, was not an indication of what was to come; for its proposition was this sort of narrow plan,— to leave in the main all the present disproportions; the small places were still to return their members, and the large ones to have no greater power; we were to have open voting and to retain the 101. household suffrage, but to have a new class of voters introduced; this was to consist of people who possessed property other than lauded, persons who could show that they had 501. in a savings bank, or that they held 1" shares in a valid railway " (whatever that might mean.) And when they parted with this property, their right of voting should cease. This plan was intended to add to the existing electors what the " Reviewer" was pleased to term the age of the working classes. lie (Mr. Gibson) hoped we should have no such plan, which would he entirely in adequate to the feelings and advanced opinions of the times. The chairman had gone into details about a small borough returning two members, and a borough with a large popu lation returning no more. These small boroughs were not to be considered as strictly part of the commercial popula tion attic country. In that a delusion lay ; and when we had a large number of borough members, and a certain number of couaty members, that looked a very fair thing. But what were these small boroughs ? They were in reality bits of counties, entirely under agricultural in fluence, and therefore it was not a fair argument. This was, however, a worse anomaly—that we should have towns of small population returning members, and other towns of much larger population and wealth returning none at all. There were towns in Lancashire and York shire, such as Dewsbury and Burnley (which had 4.5,000 inhabitants), which were as 'well entitled to members as the cathedral town of Canterbury, or some towns in the south of England much smaller. We might hove the full benefit of a system of electoral districts without attemptiug to divide the country with methodical precision ; by adopting the old boundaries, and making the representation correspond with the population and property within them. If the end could be accomplished by means the least opposed to the established feeling' of people with respect to ancient landmarks, that would be more desirable than to introduce novel terms, which might be supposed to have foreign origin or associations. When the subject of reform should be brought forward in parliament, it might be the duty of members to move amendments, and perhaps to appear to oppose an imperfect measure, though not in the spirit of refusing to take what they could get, but to render it more perfect end efficient. He hoped, therefore, every allowance would be given for the course reformers might feel it their duty to take in parliament. (Hear, hear.) If the ballot were not in the government bill, without regard to consequences, to changes of government or general elec tions, or disturbances of different parties, they must endea vour to the utmost of their power to introduce the ballot into that bill. (Cheep.) He war glad to have that re sponse; because there would be a cry, when the bill ap peared, "Don't disturb the question, because the govern ment is weak; take what you can get, and at soma future time you will be able to get more." Nuw this wee an occa sion—with the weak state of parties, and the disposition to make concessions on all sides, so as to enable parliamentary government to work decently—when opportunities would he presented for pressing and carrying measures which, perhaps, might not occur again. lie hoped, therefore, the reformers would not be charged with being Marplots, or refusing an instalment of justice ; but that they would be held to be actuated by a desire to make the measure as perfect as they could, and as much as they could in conso nance with the principle' here laid down. (Much cheering.) Mr. THOMASSON moved that, in order to maintain the efficiency of this association, a subscription be now opened, and the reformers of Manchester and the neighbourhood be urged to contribute to advance the question of perliamen tary reform. Ho expressed his entire concurrence with the speakers, who had treated the subject 'so conclusively. No great amount was required to obtain this expression of opinion : perhaps 2,0004. or 3,0001. ; and there was a ma chinery of proved efficacy to apply those funds to advan tage. lie would leave the chairman to put down his name for such sum as he thought proper. (Applause.) Mr. W. RAWSON seconded the 'motion, which was car ried unanimously ST. MARYLEBONE PARLIAMENTARY AND FINAN CIAL RIIPOIM AMIOCIATION.—List evening a public meet ing was held at the British Stores, New-street, Portland town, to consider the beet means of advocating the prin ciples of the National Reform Association. Mr. T. K. I'rit2hard took the chair, and briefly explained the objects and principles of the association, stating that the system of reform now demanded was absolutely necessary, inasmuch as the people were not properly represented in the House of Commons as at present constituted. Thu house con tained at that moment 14$ naval and military officers. 49 placemen, 76 patrons of church livings, 22 East and West India proprietor, 714 railway directors, banisters, 63 eldest eons of peers, 30 junior sons of peen, 47 brothers of peers, 3 uncles of peers, and 4d commoners married to peers' daughters; MO members constituted the majority, and 32$ the minority. The :MI members were returned by constitu encies with a population of 3,127,000 and 180,090 electors, being but one-Oath of the entire electoral holly ; the 32$ re presented all the first-class towns with a population of nearly 29,000,000, and 900,000 electors, bring the other live sixths. The total number of uncontested seats, and under the con- WI of the lantUonta, was summed to bo M, which was within six of the majority. and to this might be idled 167 contested scats which the landlords were also able t , secune. Upon the subject of taxation, he observed that the -tisnated amount per head ou the whole population in Eoe, ; l mil was 21. 12s. 6d. In France, 11. 45.; on the Unites Stat id. ; in Russia, 9s. 91. ; in Austria, I Is. Bd. ; and 12a. 4d. These were facts which called loudly for •ne inter terference of those who valued their rights and ;.rivilegeo as Englishmen, and it was to be hoped that the exertions of this Association would hove the effect of removing such intolerable abuses. The following re solution WWI then proposed b 7 Mr. liurden 1111.. waded by Mr. M'l/owell That, on order to ensure . efficient and complete reform of the House of Commons, . was in dispensable that all CLINICS should express their opinions with energy and determination, so that their r, presenta tive' in parlir.ment and her Majesty's minists may be made aware of the sentiments and wishes of tl :Kmple." The motion was unanimously agreed to, and was -.,.receded by a resolution (proposed by Mr. NichOlay and •ecouded by Mr. M'Evily) to the effect that any measure of parlia mentary reform which did not include the principles put forth by the National Reform Association wotill not de serve the confidence and support of the peoph Several gentlemen addressed the meeting in favour of this resells. tion, and it was ultimately tarried. A vote of thanks to the chairman closed the proceedings. TUE REFORM MOVEMENT.—On Tuesday, a meet ing, called by the National Financial and l'arli.....entary Association, 11,1 livid in the Exchange 11.11, Nott.ughoun, which was densely crowded, very many others wl •• nought admittance being excluded for want of room. . Alder man Knight occupied the chair. There wY re also present on the platform, Sir Joshua Walmsli.y, ; Mr. George 1 hompsou, ; Aldermen Cullen awl Judd; Councillors Dickenion and E. Hurt; the Reis. G. Sy me, J. Edwards, and J. Iluilstone (nonconformists) ; M. Booth Eddisma ; Mr. F. Home% &e. The enthusiastic awl unani mous tone of the proceedings was markedly different to those which took place ate similar meeting sum.. two yeara ago, when the chartists proposed a counter antra. Thos leviers of the ultra-movement at that time w , v. present at this meeting, and supported each proposition with as much zeal as they had previously opposed motile, for freedom end independence. beeame the declaration of welt a power as your republic will be respected even whirs it Mould not be liked ; and Burope's oppressed nations will feel cheered in resolution and doubled in strength to maintain the decision of their American brethren on their own behalf with their own liver. Various speeches followed, and the banquet paimed . off most satisfactorily. On the following day the Jackson Democratic As sociation entertained Kossuth at dinner, five hundred persona being present, and he spoke at considerable length in explanation of the position of affairs in Europe as connected with Ilungary. A correspondent of the .Year urk lleraid writes as follows :-- • Previous to Kossuth's arrival in this country, I stated to you that despatches had been received by the govern ment, Riving an account of hi. conduct on board the and which were calculated to damage him in the opiunin of the people of the United States. With • view, probably, to avoid all appearance of hostility to the Magyar, the subject wa.. dropped, and, whoa the Diississippi arrived at Now York, one of its officers went so far as to denounce, in Into, the Injurious imputations. But the subject is now attracting attention here, and there is no doubt Congress will call for all the information in pos session of the President. Thu moat important despatches arc in the Btate Department, and they consist of communi cation, from Captain Long to Consul Dodge, and the I'm:t iara despateihr, to the department. lu addition to these, the nary• department has on tile despatches from Comm dire Morgan and Captain Long. These dispatches detail • series of insults, on tne part of Kossuth and his suite, to the officers of the Mississippi, which nothing but the forbear ance of those insulted, the peculiar pointion in which they were pieced, and the partial apologies of Kuseuth, could ba.e urevented from being summarily punished. Kossuth had had an interview with llenry Clay, who %detailed him cordially to America, but depre cated any intervention in the affairs of European nations. The health of the venerable statesman rtill continues to decline. " ‘Ve learn from Washington," says the New Turk that Kossuth does not diem it necessary for him to immediately return to Europe, now that he is convinced his mission to this country has proved a failure. Perhaps Louis Napoleon's coup d'i'tat elm. assisted him in arriving at this conclusion. It is said that he now contemplates a visit to the West. After once seeing the fertile land in that region, it is not at all unlikely that he will be dis posed to settle quietly down there, and pass the re mainder of his days in agricultural pursuits. Possibly he may yet be a member of Cmgress from one of the western states." A letter dated Washington, Jan. 8, says: - A number of Indians front live different tribes of the Sioui nation visitedKossuththianwrning. They were dressed iu the original fantastical style of their race. Kossuth expressed himself highly gratified to see them and shake hands with them, and hoped God would bless them and their tribes. Ile then begged them kindly to accept some medals which some kind friends in the United States had made in' memory of his being here, by which they might remember him when they went home. They were of no value, he said, but were Intended only as tokens of remembrance of a poor exile. His remarks were interpreted. Mr. Ilagnik distributed the medals—one to each Indian—which were accepted by them with marked gratification. The Indian agent explained to them that Kos suth was an exile, tome to visit the President, who had take n him by the haad and shown him all the people of this great nation, who were all glad to see him. Kossuth had the same principles about I bow a nation ought to live which this country received, Which made him welcome here. lioaqath bar now to leave Washington for Annapolis on M oiday nalt : from there he goes to Har risburg on Tuesday, then to Pittsburgh on Thursday, where he will *toy the remainder of the week, and will probably resell Vineimiti on the Wednesday following. Some tan or twelve Western members of the Virginia Lc gislature called on Komuth thin morning, and expressed their congratulations and sympathy. A da legation from Vermont also called and invited Ka suth to visit that state. Kosanth briefly replied and inti mated that he would accept the invitation should he remain in the country lung enough. Relative to the firing into the American steamer Prometheus by the British brig-of-war Express, owing to the Prometheus endeavouring to leave the port of San Juan de Nicaragua without paying her port dues, contradictory statements preclude our ar riving, as yet, at any certain account of the state of of affairs, the New lurk Herald says, that de spatches had been received at Washington from the Lnited States minister in London, containing his correspondence with Lord P n almerso on the subject. Land Palmerston disavows the conduct of the captain of the Express, and gives such assurances of the feel ing of his government as to apparently preclude the possibility of any misunderstanding ansing between the two countries. It is understood (says the Herald) that Lord Palmerston will at once give practical effect to the Clayton and Bulwer treuty, by with drawing from the Mosquito protectorate. On the other hand, a letter, dated Washington, Jan. 9, says : It is not true, as stated by a New York journal, that a despatch has been received here, announcing that Lord Pahnerson has disavowed the Prometheus affair, or that any communication has been received on that subject. The last intelltgenm represents Mr. Lawrence, on the eve of the sailing of the Africa, as having ecnsmunicated Mr. Web stcr's letter to Lord Palmerston, as stated in my despatch some days ago. Mr. ltives, the American Minister to France, had been instructed to recognise the government of Louis Napoleon. A telegraphic communication from Washington, of the date of the 9th, says:—" Henry Clay has written a letter in favour of Gen. Cass fur President. I state this on unquestionable authority. It is also asserted that Mr. Fillmore will soon be out with a letter de clining to be a candidate, but intimating in favour of Daniel Webster. Great commotion among the other presidental candidates." The report of the Into judges and other officers of the territory of Utah, respecting the religion and polygamy of the Mormons, has been laid before the President. Accompanying this curious rzpon , of the doings in Mormondom, was a counter statement from Governor Brigham Young and his coadjutors. The latter party, of course, charge the judges and secretary with official misconduct, but do not esta blish the fact that the social condition of the Mor mons is any better than represented by the returned officers. A letter dated Philadelphia, Jan. 10, says: Dr. Kinkle is in Illinois. A few days since a great meet ing was held at Belleville, and the citizens there pee him a grand reception, and organised a meeting, which was ad dressed by Dr. Kinkle first in English and then in German. The subject of the German loan wee brought forward, and it was " Resolved—That this meeting approves of the plan of a German national loan which has been set on foot, as securing those means, and will give it our energetic support. That subscription books for the said loan shall be opened, in which subscribers may either sign once for all a certain sum as stock for said loan, or may sign the amount they are willing to pay by weekly contributions." On the 20th ult. M. Kossuth addressed a urge meeting at St. Louis, when the following resolutions were reported : " Resolved—That this meeting believes it to be the duty of every well wisher of theenerergpetiubclifm inconsistent can o esasetolea hweiltph , ing hand in the t our duty to our government, to aid those who are har nessed in the conflict with tyranny and oppression in con tinental Europe, and especially in the German States. " Resolved— 'l h a t a committee of 26 be appointed by the chairman of this meeting to devise ways and means to pro mote the objects of Professor Kinkle's visit to this country and city. Resolved—That whatever effective means shall be raised in the form of loans or otherwise be disposed of and transmitted to the General Committee at London, to aid the German cause, according to the regulations which have been adopted by the people in public meetings in Baltimore, Cincinnati, and elsewhere." I find the follow ing in a New Orleans paper, received by yesterday's southern mail " The coroner of New Orleans last week held an inquest on the body of Lord J. Loughborough, found dead on board the schooner Mary Elisabeth. The deceased was a British nobleman, and was only twenty three years of age. He had taken passage at Hav a n na h for New Orleans, in the Mary Elisabeth, and died while the schooner was coming up the river. The evidence before the jury showed that the immediate cause of his death was congestion of the brain. A gentleman and a servant ac companied him on the voyage, and gave him every atten tion during his illness." We have dates from tho city of Mexico to the 17th December. The English debt resulting from diplomatic con ventions, hud been definitely settled. The creditors will receive an annual interest of three per cent., and the per cent. for funding the capital for five years - -after which time the interest is to bo increased to four and six per cent. respectively. The bank into rest is to be capitalised. the Spanish debt has also been settled. Manuel Payno had returned from England, having been unsuccessful in his efforts respecting the re-esta bli%liment of the public credit. Ond the 2nd December the British corvette Alarm anchored off Sucritleios. A party of Americans were near Monclora, pre paring, according to the .Ss do, to " invade the state of Coahuita." They appear, from the accounts, to be in pursuit of their runaway negro slaves from Texas. They-were suspected of complicity with CaravajaL [For markets see last pegs.] THE NEW REFORM BILL. MEETING AT LEEDS. On Tuesday night last a large and influential meeting was held at the Music Hall, Leeds, on the question of parliamentary reform, hut more topecially to elicit the views of the different classes of reformers in the borough on the scheme of parliamentary reform as agreed to at she late confi-renta: hi Id in Manchester. The meeting included all sections of the reform party. JOHN WILNON, &Kt. (one of the aldermen of the borough) took the chair, and was surrounded by James Garth Marshall, Esq., H. C. Marshall, Esq., Aldermen Luccock, Bower, Carbutt, and Pease; t'ouncillors John Marshall, Weinman, Morgan, Carter, Kcttlewell, George, and Heaps ; John Wilkiuson, Esq., Edward Homes, Esq., Charles Naylor, Esq., Robert Adams, Esq., J. C. Barrett, Esq., &c. The CHARMAN, in opening the business of the even ing, said—lt has been urged in some quarters that such meetings are unnecessary, or at any rate premature, and that it would be better to wait till we have the government measure before us. To this doctrine I entirely dissent. (Hear, hear.) I think that it is much better that all large constituencies should speak out in a firm and decided tone as to the character of the measure of reform which they are looking for, and which they think the country is entitled to before the government are publicly committed to any mea sure of their own. (Applause.) Nothing can be more unwise than for government to resist reasonable and safe practical reforms ; and nothing more impolitic than for people to make rash, unreasonable, and impracticable demands. If we want an example, the lesson is before us. Look at France. France, under the autocratic, conservative, sel fish, grant-nothing policy of Louis Philippe. became so desperate that they upset the whole fabric of government and established a republic —a republic which looted front ISIS to 18.11, durieg which short period some strange transactions took place—(hear, hear)—and now, at the very commencement of 18. 2, under the specious name of a republic, they are reaping the worst fruits of despotism— , (hear, hear)—a despotism so hideous that, with an en• lightened people like the French, it is impossible it can long remain. (.. Hear, hear," and applause.) Let us profit by their experience, and let government take warning by their exerience. (Hear.) J. O. MARSHALL, Esq.,l M.P., said—Great is now the necessity for the middle and working classes to continue to act in earnest and in concert. (Applause.) I trust that the disposition ma to art is widely felt among reformers. On the one hand we ought to demand that this measure, if agitated at all, shall contain a really large and liberal ex tension of the franchise amongst that intelligent and Indus trious portion of the community whose conduct since the ' last Reform Bill has so eminently entitled them to the sup port and confidence of their fellow-countrymen. (Cheers.) On the other hand, we must take care that in our proposed changes we keep within those ancient and recognised princi ples of our mixed and tempered constitution, which are es sential to safety and to unity of action. (Hear.) I need hardly say that I have ever been a firm advocate for a large extension of the suffrage, both betore I entered par liament and since I have had the high honour of being one of the representatives for the important constituency of this borough. (Applanse.) Acting on this principle, I have always given my vote in the House of Commons in favour of Mr. Hume's motion for household suffrage— (hear, hear)—triennial parliaments—(applause)—vote by ballot)—(loud applauae)—and a more equitable apportion ment of the representation. (Renewed applause.) This Deemed to me the best general definition of a measure of reform, as once based upon old constitutional principles and landmarks, and large enough to ratify the just de mends of the improved intelligence of the people. Much, no doubt, will depend upon the learning of the limits and details of these principles as embodied in a practical measure. What we ought to aim at is such a liberal extension of the franchise as without swamping the existing constituency shall satisfy the just and moderate expectations of the people. (Hear.) lie moved the following resolu tion That this meeting having considered the existing state of the representation of the I lilted Kingdom, is desi ous to see such changes effected as will satisfy the just and moderate expectations of the people, and render the House of Commons, in conformity with the spirit of the constitu tion, a fair representation of the property, the industry, sad the intelligence of the people; and that while aiming at this object, it is moreover anxious to adhere to the ancient landmarks of our representative system, and within their limits to introduce such changes only as experience has shown to be wise and safe." E. BAIN Esq., seconded the resolution, and said—l acres with the sentiment that, when the prime minister of this sannley has ammemesad taw it is his intention to bring the repeassatatian tido people bcfure the consideration of par liament, it M Ow towns and constituencies so large as this to tales that sehject into their own consideration, meet together to discuss it, and to present (heir owa view of the question to the sinister, in order to wind him in the forma tion of his measures. (Applause.) I think, too, that it is most wise and proper that the town of Leeds should meet on such an ocendon, and my only regret is that we have not met at an earlier period in order to set an example to other towns, which would, I believe, have been the case if we could have met some weeks ago. I rejoice, sir, that we have seen a prime minister of England, whatever may be the measure he may ulti mately bring forward, adopt the wise course of bringing the question of a reform in the representation of the people be fore parlisinent4not at a time of agitation—when ho is forced to yield to the importunate demands of the people, and in such a way as to have the appearance of giving a reluctant assent to what he could not fully sgree to—but in a time of general peace, and as great prosperity as this country has at any previous period known. It appears to me to be true wisdom, when any measure which is likely to excite public opinion to any considerable degree is to be brought forward, that the more calm and tranquil are the circum stances on which it is advanced, the better will it be not only for that question, but also fur the continued tranqui lity and happiness of our country. I think it must be admitted that up to the present period, with some few exceptions, the working classes of England have hail but a very small share in thu constituencies uf the kingdom. (Ileac) I am at the lame time deliberately convinced, from close observation and inquiries of a number of years—which I may say have been carried on in a spirit of" great impar tiality by me—l am perfectly convinced that there has been an immense progress in the attainment both of general and political knowledge amongst the working classes of this country. The general conduct, too, of the working glasses of this country for the last twenty years has been such that we may now safely claim fur them the possession of much diseriminetion, virtue, and a very considerable amount of knowledge. It seems then to me thrt while the intellectual cultivation of the people is not nearly so high as we could wish it to be, and as we hope it will yet be, still there is such au amount of cultivation both in virtue and knowledge, as clearly to entitle a very large proportam of the working classes to h, admitted to the exercise of the franchise which will enable them to exercise an influence in the parliament of their country. ('. Hear, hear," and e4eers.) I think, therefore, that a very large and bold extension of the fran chise is both safe and wise; and certainly I think it is saw and wiser to grant such extension than in the present THE MEETING AT MANCHESTER. At this influential meeting, a condensed report of which appeared in yesterday's P..rpreu, Mr. M. GIBSON, M I'. , said the principle embodied in this petition (given yesterday) was not unlike the principle which lay at the root of the discussions in support of commercial freedom. 'f he free traders had asked that there should be no monopoly of any branch of our industry to interfere with the development of others. They now asked that there should be no monopoly of political power. (Cheers.) It was the same struggle of industry, intelligence, property, and numbers, against feudalism, tradition, and privilege. This lay at the root of all sound advocacy of representative reform. Mr. Bright had spoken of the signs of the times ; and had said it was not to bo supposed that because there were no tumultous meetings there was not • latest deter mination in the great body of the people to have • fair representation. Admitted; but there was also this en couraging sign. It was not now, as formerly, that , despotic governments could dad sympathy in any great body of this people. When illustrious foreigners like Kos suth came among us, the principle of liberty was supported and applauded. There was much admirable writing against w hat were believed to be the despotic governments of Austria sad Bassist. But though it was encouraging to see this homage to liberty, ho should like to see men less anxious about the government of Bessie and Austria, and the wrongs of distant states, and more anxious about the perfecting of their own free institutions. (Applause.) Even in reference to their own object, liberty in foreign countries would be better promoted by showing confidence in free institutions by their own acts and example. Tl.at was the argument fur free trade,—do not discuss the policy of other nations; yoa are TILE STRIKE. PROCEEDINGS IN LONDON. Yesterday again passed over without the occur rence of any event within our knowledge likely to change the aspect of the dispute hetwo.eu the operative nankeen and their employer:. No advance has yet Isov made towards a reconciliation between the two parties, .Ithough the general expression of opinion upon the 1. r of the operatives continues to run in favour of a fair sett! , ment by arbitration. The cost of the strike appears likely 1,1 prove very heavy to the operatives, as aNM of 782/. o tr distri buted as strike pay for the past week in Mamie • r :done. A large portion of this sum, however, was tuAdt con tributions of a day's pay by the men in work, so . . greatly to relieve the pressure upon the general fund of to society. The returns of expenditure from other places hat , - not yet been received. Twenty-two additional returns oore yes terday received at the general office , tpon the ou'let t us the 10,000!. en-operative grant, the whole of whielt sere in favour of the proposition. The total number of returns now received amounts to about 9.5, of which only tl'rec are in the negative. MANCHESTER. A meeting of the Association of Employers at Manchester was held on Tuesday, at which the proceedings of the exe cutive were approved of, but no new measures were adopted for bringing about a termination of the questions at issue between them and their workpeoplc. The 1106, ty work men thrown out of employ in Manchester reoleed their first pay on Tuesday'. at the rate of 1.55. per we•• k, for the eight days they had been out of work, was given to each man. the money had been raised by .4 levy of a day's pay per week from the men in and the workmen themselvis say it was nut only ; • cheer fully, but they never recollect such a gener %ponse being made by dr. trade before. They state Om • • of the largest of the houses which has stopped is dee .g busi ness, and they are making overtures to take •• he pre mises and plant, to work it on the co-operatie ~tineiple. IA master at Oldham is said to have offered thee, ' • use of his premises; rind in order to avail them-else • le tools and machinery to the utmost, it is contempt, •to have three relays of men, to work eight hours each e. • whole twenty-four. On Monday evening most of the ten branch, • ,•hin the Manchester district held meetings to consider t ~ uestion of invr sting 10,0001. as proposed by the execu• . stoned. In each ease where a meeting was held, we we, end the vote was in favour of the appropriation—in ne. • LA'S the decision being unanimous, this being especial s in tho No. 1 branch, the largest in the district. In ad. • . ato ap proving the use of the 10,0001., the No. 1 bras • °. oassed a resolution requesting the council to take the op ..•..e of the members of the society on the propriety of r. • „ -sing the 10,0001. within 12 months, by means of an equa. .y u:on the members. LIVERPOOL. In consegnence of a notice conveyed to the nt an4aged in Messrs. Forrester and Co.'s works, Vauxhall t • •:.dry, by Mr. M'Crogor, the manager, to the effect that tof the men as were members of societies or clubs mu.t • „to their employment under that firm, a meeting of the a united trades of workers in iron in the Liverpool ili•tr .as held last night, to determine upon the steps to be iu the matter. Mr. M'Gregor had required that a mete ...! should be signed by the men, pledging them to withi, 11 coun tenance or aid to the parties now on strike in cinder, London, end elsewhere; and the following h.el ;wen pre pared and duly forwarded, in the hope of its uo eking the wishes of the firm: "To W. F. Mraurooa, Esq. " Sir,—We, the members of the Arualgainati .1 !Society of Engineers, in your employ, beg to state that we olive no in tention or wish of altering the present rules and regulations between ourselves and our employers; nor is it the listen- tion or wish of the soch ty of which we are members to ask for any alteration in the present rules which god ern the shops of the Liverpool district. owing to the pi einiar situa tion of this port respecting We...t Indian awl shipping orders.—We are, Sir, your obedient servants, "TIIE MESIIIIEMS °I - Tilt: AXALUANIATED 9 ..caLTY." To this memorial it was intimated that the reply at Messrs. Forrester had been unsatisfactory, and that it did not meet fully , their requirements, which were that the inen should pledge themselves to quit the society altogetli..i. This, it was contended, was askir.g too much, as the si v was of the character of a benefit club, to which some be mem bers—and among them the best and mast exp, rienced in the trade—lied been contributing for many ye r.,—on an average from 10 to 15, and, in a few eases, litany es from 18 to 2Z years. The benefits accruing 1,4 m mem bership are—if out of work, through no individual fault, the sum of 10s. per week for 14 weeks, and 7s. for 12 weeks,—in ell not to exceed 111. 4s. in any one year, suck amount either to be paid as a giR ur as charges fortravelling in search of work. The allowance for sick meinliers is 10e. weekly ; and the superannuation allowance, provided for members who have contributed for 18 years, and are 60 years of age, is 6s. per week, with permission to earn en additional Ws. per week. 'I hese, it was argu. 11, were too considerable benefits fur the men to resign, especially when the strike was one in which they were not implicated, and from which they were willing to hold aloof. With re sin tho memorial a ct e to it th . o . ship e p . i p n l f i t an o c r a cte t r i s ,at re t fr e m d e to n had ~Iways bees aware that despatch in execution wit an indispensable condition of such orders coining to Liverpool at all; and that they had on all occasions willingly submitted to work overtime in order to their execution A.eitlier copy of the resolution was agreed to be presenter, to Fawcett and Co., either last night or in the sour a of to-day, as their men's notice expires to-night. Should ii., a gentle men wit be satisfied with it, and Messrs. Foerester re fuse to reconsider the matter, eighteen men iu the former establishment, and sixteen in the latter will Its thrown out of work. This will be rendered doubly painful. so far as Messrs. Fawcett are concerned, by the fact that, as we are credibly informed, the prospects of (=plop* ut in their concern are at present more encouraging thou they have been for some years past. An unfortunate resolution of the men in this district to permit an advance of their funds for the establishment of eo•operative shops in London and Manchester is considered by the more prudent ..sing them to have embittered the minds of the emple. 1, against them. It is much to be regretted that the easy of accommodation so far as Liverpool is concerned. cannot be amicably settled.—Liverpool Courier. THE OCEAN PENNY POsTAGE.—Elihu Ilurritt is indefatigable in his efforts to accomplish this ereat object. lie has been the means of getting up a number meetings in the manufacturing districts in its favour, and on Tuesday he was present at a meeting in Manchester, attended by the borough and county members and a great many i•tffuential gentlemen. The following resolution was adopted That the trade end commerce of this kingdom with all countries of the civilised world, call for the adoption of a uniform rate of ocean pilotage, as a means liar cementing the bonds of peace and amity, and for eat.•nding the various philanthropic anti Christian movements of the age." Mt - BTERIOI's HEATH AT ROCllEBTER.—Yeatcrthly the coroner's inioest at Rochester, touching the death of the man found in the Medway, near Rochester-bridge, on the morning of the 10th inst., and who, it was supposed, had not come fairly by his death, from the ill`RiCi3llll man ner in which the body was found, having *rope tied round the head, with a stake affixed thereto, was brought to a close. Since the adjournment of the intim st, it had been ascertained that the ileccained'a name was James Brown, aged about 38 years, a private belonging to the Chatham division of Royal Marines, and in November last was stationed on board H.M.S. London, lying at Sheerness, which lie left for the purpose of claiming his discharge from the corps, alter a servitude of 21 years, espri song his in tention to return to that ship as a " blue jaiiet.'. 1 his, however, he did not do, and after being die barged, at which time ho had about St in his posee-ism, and he remised further between lif. and 71 at Chatham Dockyard, nothing more was seen of him by his comrades mail picked up dead. No traces whitener of the money hive lVell die covered, and an far at least the matter is still a mystery, which the evidence adduced did not tend in the least to clear up, and the jury returned an open verdict of " Found drowns Al , l ISERATED PElTER.—Yeaterday the following fin, inflicted by the Court of inland R. s , titie upon groe,rs Mond in prnow.ion of adulterated pepin :Mt upon Job. utoit, 15, Gray's-inn-lane ; 101., J. 8. 11, Great Sidnak.street, Southwark; 5'., Henry Smith, 23, Bee mou,luo,dreet; John Reynals, Union -street, houthwarki. and Timm Hut, of the same locality. • • ' '• • ' • {4) ;' N:rtz • etP.