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alga maul or by order in council. Ulmer pismire is that the legislative council shall consist of not bee ass tea or more than twelve." These isetrectiess, des were revisable at any thee. And sow let gess so whether the stem bed ported with soy et its pewee. It appeal thee is life sew Mom palest wise breed. mid* star retake the Ismer bassi pates; we haterperstisi web perdue* et them es woe sessmery, west es to deism that " there shell be withls tbe seed missy s yertiesiest, to be Was by ear pewees and legislative erase% end It is hereby rorsimed OM the aid legislative semi' shall emelt et melt wens es shall be 'bead is welt inatuser and form awl weds, cash term and revitalise—a very odd caseloads. le peel- 0 as shell be prescribed by the ordinals* to be mesa by yes I with the awns of the present legisigivis esessii." Audi we do farther declare our vnll sod piserme to be that it shell be competent for you to continue with the advice end consent of our present legislative eicresik to maks, see" and eMablish laws for t h e pease order. ar e teed i c werament of our colonies. It there should be a parliament in the Carl" filesi b ieps, sad that it should be constituted eseardieg to • assi to no thereafter settled, and subject to the appeliatka of the crown. Observations bad been moll am the word " present" which was before the wards "le gislative council." The council at that time was under a legislative council framed in the mouse of the prerogative of the cruvrn, but the letters patent referred to another legislative council, that is to say, to a we council which was to form part of the future In contrast with the future legislative council it milk tie ordinance must be made by the present legieletim Would any Lawyer tell him that that took away hem the crown the inherent power it possessed to modify the easaml. Lawyers had held up their hands in astonishment whim it had been said that the word " present " meant the same council. According to these last letters patent, the comma consisted of six and the governor. In July the governor made an order that four persons should be appointed that the coun cil recommended in a certain manner. They were recom mended in September, the letters patent being is May, and the council consisted of six and the governor. No alteration whatever had taken place in that council, except this,—that the council as it existed then, existed now. In the meantime these four gentlemen were nominated by the governor and resigned, leaving the council as they found it. lie said, therefore, if any technical argument was to be used to create a difficulty, be gave it a technical answer. Suppose this wore a charter, and that the council was to consist of 20, and gave power to a majority to perform the corporate acts, what would be the effect of four retiring? He contended that such a charter would require not a ma jority of the twenty, but a majority of those who met (being a majority of the twenty) could conduct the business. Well, them, what was the state of this council ? Why were six not competent to exercise the powers of the charter ; and, at the same time, it must be borne in mind, that thew letters patent were to be ex ercised according to instructions. In this opinion it was stated, "We are of opinion that the in struction.% of the 13th of May, 18.11, are not withiu the re seventies of further power., and instructions and authori-• ties contained in the letters potent of Dili, and are alto gether illegal and void " It is clearly established by the law of England that a legislative constitution once granted by the crown to a colony is irrevocable, except by the au thority of the imperial parliament, or by the local legisla ture with the consent of the crown. No doubt, but do not as sume that the crown had granted a couetitution to the colony. It was a great constitutional maxim that the prerogative of the crown could not be taken away except by express words : it could nut be taken away by implication, and therefore here they must show that the prerogative of the crown was taken away, not by coustruction, not by retinesl argument, but by exprem words. Now, what was the present situu tion of this question ? Ile said first that the grant to the colony was the grant or prombw of a future constitu. tion not yet settled, lint matured, and not capable of being used for any purpose or effect at the present moment. Now had the crown parted with its legislative powers ? He said it had in express words reserved them, and there was nothing remained in any of these documents which would raise any reasonable doubt that the crown re mained in full pomeseion of its legal authority ; and he apprehended it was perfectly clear that the council was per fectly competent to set with the 6 as it now remained, that 6 forming a majority of the original 10. lie could not help thiuking that this motion had been originally made under the 1111.11 that there had been a mistake in a point of law ; but the noble lord had evidently some misgivings on that subject, and therefore the argument took another shape. Assuming. therefore, that the colony had a legis lative or constitutional authority, should this motion be granted ? The noble lord said he had no party ob ject to gain ; that he sought no party triumph. But he should have thought that the noble lord belonged to the debating club in which no speech was allowed except in aggravation. The late Colo nial Secretary could see nothing that was right in the pre sent secretary from beginning to end. What was the pro posed committee to do ? Was it to settle the question of w? Had they anything to lay before them, any wit nesses to examine, any facts that would inform them of more than they knew ? Was it a committee to frame a bill—was thut the intention? The crown, at the present moment had the prerogative of legislating for this colony, and their lordships would not interfere without strong reasons to interfere with the prerogative. He did not deny the authority of that house, but they looked to that house exercising it/authority iu ucoustitutional manner. He warned them imainst the danger of affording encou ragement to complaints against the government. They had a colony prepared to he divetisfiesl, and the result of their deliberations that night would produce its effect for good or for evil. Although the noble earl hail disclaimed the intention of making this a party question, the state of the house sufficiently showed, that although no party motive might actuate their lordships, yet still there was very great danger indeed of the matter being turtle! into a party one. There was nothing to submit to the committee, and if they were ready to legislate let them do it, but not adopt a form of motion which could only tend to the disparage. meet of government, and to the creation of distrust and agitation iu quart. rs where these were already sufficiently rife. (Hear, hear.) The Duke of ARGYLL objected to the motion, as having no absolute meaning. Ile could nut consider a motion of censure upon Earl Grey as deserved ; her, except in th e convict case ' he thought his policy toward s the Cape colo flints had been most liberal,indeed too liberal. He conceived such a motion, if carried, likely to impair the authority of the crown in the colony, and as the providing a constitution for the Cape would add two or three months to the session, he should oppose it. Lord IVIIARNCLIFFE did not think that, under the circumstances, it was desirable to renew inquiry into all the vexed questions of the colony, but he could not, on the other hand, consider that Earl Grey hail given the well affected colonists such pledges for representative institutions as he (Lord Wharneliffe) thought they were entitled to. Earl GREY, in explanation, gave a brief risumi of his previous speech, and contended that he hail given no pledge. The Duke of NEWCASTLE had been disappointed with Earl Grey's explanation. Ile believed legislation to be the only remedy for the evils complained of as existing at the Cape. lie repeated, however, that the Earl of Derby had made a party speech upon the subject, but should be glad of further explanations from the earl, upon which would de pend the question whether he should vote with him or not. Urging strongly upon their lordships the justice, policy, and necessity of legislation upon the subject, deprecating Earl Orvy'a idea that such a course would give a party triumph to his antagonists, who were, he thought, actually in an attitude of submission, he earnestly advised immediate at tention to the question. The Earl of DERBY rose to reply , at about 1 o'clock, He disclaimed all party intentions, and contended that his arguments, some of which he reiterated, had not been met by the speakers who had opposed him, while the defences of the Lord Chancellor and of Earl (hey were inconsistent with each other. Ile proposed to go to a select committee for immediate practical legislation, which he believed to be the one thing necessary for the Cape colonists. Their lordships then divided— Content.. Non-contents Majority for the government Their lordships adjourned at 1 o'clock, to Thursday. HOUSE OF CONIMONS.—TVESDAY, Juts 15. Tk• 8 took the chair at twelve o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. SOUTH HOLLAND D R AINAGE ACTS AMEND. - - -- ------- ME. illifEE This bill was resulATwod time._ PETITION PRESENTED. Tan Cavrisr. IZ.ZI.tCe. I II3;:CapiainSCOBELL, from Bath; Sir J. B. EAST, from Winchester; and Mr. DIVETT, from Exeter (2) ; for converting the Crystal Palace into a winter garden. Tan MILLING larcasse.—By Mr. GREENE, from the millers of Lancaster • Sir A, ARMSTRONG, from the flour millers of Rome and Parsonstown ; Mr. AN STEY, from millowners of Yamaha ; Marquis of GRANBY, from the millers of Stamford and the neighbourhood ; Mr. BOOKER, from the millers of Herefordshire y Sir L. O'BRIEN, from the corn millers of Waterford; Mr. E. B. ROCHE, from corn millers in the county of Cork ; Mr. DISRAELI. from millers of Liverpool and Ely; and Laid 0. MANNERS, from the Isle of Ely ; praying for protee bon against the importation of foreign flour.—By Mr. CONOLLY. from Donegal ; Lord NA AS , from Kildare; ! Sir. J. STUART, from Newark ; complaining of the distressed state of the milling intersst. UNLAWFUL OATHS (IRELAND) BILL This bill was read a third time and parsed. TURNPIKE ROADS (IRELAND) BILL. This bill was read • third time and passed. PRIVATE LUNATIC ASYLUMS (IRELAND) BILL. This bill was read a third time and pawed. TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE BILL. This bill was read a third time and ;sassed. HARWICH ELECTION. Mr. DEEDE', the chairman en the select committee ap id to inquire into the controverted election for this borough, reported their decision, that Mr. R. W. Craw ford had not been duly elected, and that the election was, , therefore, void. On the motion of Mr. DIEDEN, the evidence taken before the committee was ordered to be printed. COUNTY COURTS FURTHER EXTENSION BILL. The house went into committee on this bill. On clause 13 (the previous climate having, with verbal amendments, been agreed to), The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the clause had been drawn up in consequence of • wide-spread confede racy amongst the attorneys to procure the total iticlualon of barristers how the county coasts. Then could hew doubt that at the present nionseit the bar wimp silasstly ezerisi hots a largo asejority d the our%& but he adi set sumo that then wee say with on the peel ef the yobbo le distrey the Mr d ild la die preen& stets of moiety, whoa so may Isadore met asewswily cosset Übe* the osects law, be mould bray inieniss that any one diew& ofnieetas well be depenssi lath; and surely it wen hpertW that these siniamise dwell be men a be beet obiestisa, sai sheedil be aseseiewl by the behest hal hies of g entis aa 7 s . a rea!)osehl awn the beiwo that it woe wry to Ai ms limn sash • WOW. bet still he set help rewaddes that the elewswys who proodosi in the county sends wore not the sloes of their ties inns hef the ler& peobeeiss. Ile listbs swat et thwohnedisninfe himself toto th iennia be bereft e pub& that the ler sho e t a displaced way by sa rb rior elan of adman% Ids% Weed, h weld be mein that there was a groan , soureety slaytins such a mune. B. fully minnwod dos inipsreinee 'tabu, ends of jostles, oaf if it amid be awn that these alesnay ebonites were pail leis her there womb' he a show; ewe is their boom (Cheers.) But that raw net the bet Dy the sat of ran ' meat the advocate's Ms wore laid awl dMeawrai, so that it made no difference to the solar whether the aderiwy or the barrister got them, for as atsorary wee as Ins than those fees. And this was prootically Ne toss. • gentle man, whose name, if he were to mention it, would be a sufficient voucher for the accuracy of his assertion, stated, in a ktter to him, that in a provincial town, where there were - oily sir. or seven attorneys, they had a greed not to :Zs:as advocates unless three guineas were actually paid before they went into court. This rule, though it had in tome degree limited their business, had been found to answer ezeeedingly well, and it was the best business they did. (Hear, hmr.) Depend upon it, then, that the public could gain nothing even in an eco nomical point of view by the substitution of attorney advo cates for barrister advocates. (Hear.) They might adopt one of two courses : they might either put the barrister on the same footing with the attorney, or they might provide that if a party wished to employ his own attorney, who was &ma Ale such, the attorney might be allowed to act also as advocate ; but that in eases where it was desired that the functions of attorney and advocate should be separated, then the privilege should be given to the bar which they enjoyed in other courts. (Cheers,) He (the Attorney-General) was satisfied that the tendency of recent legislation had been to carry justice home to every man's door. (Hear, hear.) That tendency he considered a most proper one, and he had always stood by the County Courts Bill; hut, at the same time, he could not but protest against en attempt to destroy a noble profession, the history of which was inti mately associated with the brightest annals of oar country ; and be warned the house to be cautious how, in potting down one monopoly, they made room for a much worse. (Cheers.) Mr. I. ITZROY said the Attorney-General had made the best ease for the banisters that could be done, but still if the clause were left as it was, it would completely defeat the two principal objects of the County Courts, namely, speedy and cheap justice. (Loud cheers.) He wished to know what course the learned Attorney-Ge neral intended to take. Sir U. STRICKLAND viewed this as a contest between cheap justice and dear justice. The courts at Westminster were jealous at the well-established and well-deserved po pularity of the new courts, and seeing that their occupation was gone, or almost gone, they stepped in and xnid, ' Give usamontopoly." (Cheers.) Now whenever he heard the word "monopoly" he felt certain that "something was rotten in the state of Denmark." (Laughter) The courts of West nsMater had brought this upon themselves. They had re fused to reduce their expenses, to reform their technicali ties. and, above all, they had clung to that antiquated rule of refusing to permit parties to suits to be themselves exa mined. (Hear.) The courts of Westminster had refused to simplify their proceedings, and the consequence was, they would be swamped. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL begged to propose a clause as a substitute for clause 13. It had been drawn a by a county court judge, and its purport was that in all cases where the parties chose to employ an attorney to art both as attorney and advocate they might be allowed to do so ; but, if the parties desired the assistance of an advocate, in addition to their attorney, that ad vocate s hould be a barrister. Mr. HENLEY was authorised by the right hon. member for Ripon (Sir James Graham) to expreas his opinion that both barrister and attorney+ should have a fair field and no favour. (Loud cheers.) Ile (Mr. Henley) was quite ready to acquiesce in the new clause of the Attorney. (.3e. were!, hut he should hare been better satisfied if the field had been left open to all. (Cheers.) After some remarks froniMr. Hume, Mr. J. E. Denison, and Mr. Freshfield, The SOLICITORDENERAL objected to the proposal of the bon. member for Oxfordshire (Mr. Ilculey), inas much as it would introduce a third class of advocates, who could be neither barristers nor attorneys, but a totally new clan, restrained by the responsibilities of neither. The bar was kept in order by the esprit de corps, by which every barrister was the watehiul guardian of the honour and in tegrity of hisiearnrd brethren. &.ides, all barristers were obliged to be member: of one of the four inns, which were governed by bmeheri, who sat as judges over their conduct, and who were armed with the power of expelling them from the inns, and so depriving them of the right to practise. In like manner, a person's own attorney was liable to an action fur damages if his client suffered loss from his negligence. But this hybrid class of attorney advocates would be liable neither to be disbarred nor to suffer the pecuniary consequences to which a person's own attorney was liable. Ater some further discussion, the debate became ex ceedingly confused, a great number of honourable gentlemen proposing amendments of a verbal na ture. Eventually the conclusion of Mr. Cardwell'o clause was altered so us to be to the following effect: —" And it shall be lawful fur the parties to the suit, for an attorney of one of the superior courts of record retained by 'or on behalf of the parties, or for a barrister retained by or on behalf of the parties on either side, or by the leave of the judge for any other parson, without any right to ex clusive or pro-audience, to address the court, subject to such regulation as the judge shall think lit to make for the orderly transaction of the business of his court." This clause was then agreed to, and the house resumed. The report of the committee of supply was then brought up and agreed to. The sitting was then suspended, at 2d minutes past 3, until half-past 5. The SPICA/Eli resumed the chair at half-past 5. NOTICES OF MOTION. HARWICH ELEertom.—AIr.BANKES (to-morrow), that the issue of the unit for Harwich be suspended till the mi nutes of evidence taken before the select committee are laid on the table of the house. Also, to call the attention of the house to a petition chording the government with interfe rence at the last election. CASE OP EENEST JONES.—Lord D. C. STUART post poned his motion on this subject, in COESILAUCIICO of tho ill ness of Sir G. Grey. C PatscE.--Mr. J. HEYWOOD, on an early day, to move that the Commissioners of Woods and Forests be instructed to give directions for the preservation of the central portion of the Crystal Palace for one year. COPYIIOLD ENFRANCHISEMENT BILL. Mr. AOLIONBY begged to move that it be an instruc tion to the committee sitting en the Copyhold Enfranchise ment Bill that they have. power to consolidate the two bills into one.—Agrts.:4.?!... 9 . ERMAN ANNFRATION. Mr. ANSTElfiire --- 1:oiicet1Tat;;;;;ow (this day) he would put a question to the noble lord the Foreign Secretary in reference to the joint protest of England and France against the annexation by Germany of non-German territory. SELECT CO: Mr. EWART rose to move that the number of members composing select committees (except when special Cattle be shown to the satisfaction of the house for enlarging that number) be seven ; that the members appointed to serve on select committees be selected by a committee of selection ; that it be the duty of the committee of selection to choose only such members to serve on select committees u may de clare their ability to give their regular attendance at such committees, and that the committee of selection ascertain this fact from such members beforehand; that it be an object of the committee of selection, in the formation of select com mittees, to combine a due proportion of the younger mem bers with the more experienced members of the house; that three members be held a sufficient quorum of members for select committiev, &e. (Hear, hear.) Mr. E. DENISON objected to the course sought to be pursued by the hon. gentleman who submitted this prepo sition to the louse. 7317 also objected to the resolutions before the house. Mr. HOBHOU SE thought the present time very well calculated for inquiry without waiting till next year. He considered it most unjust to compel hon. gentlemen to serve on private committees, where all was dry detail, and then to deny them the right of serving on public commit tees. He thought these privileges should be alike open to all, andnot matters of favour, as at present. lie therefore should support the motion of his hon. friend. Mr. C. LEWIS said that unless they introduced into public committees the practice—which he thought would be impossible—of allowing counsel to state the cue before the committee% the'- cou.il not reduce their committees to the number proposed by the hon. member for Dumfries. He thought it would give rise to greater evils than those that existed at present. Mr. HUME said that though they had frequently changed the number of members that should constitute committees, they had never as to the mode of selection adopted the right course. At present, members had not a fair opportunity of showing their talents for business, but the didlculty really wu to get members to attend. He would therefore make it compulsory on every member to attend, but he would not 1 1 appoint rpowinotgd tam h e a m ve lie e o snitoomni.motire nomination mad e on e e . com u nti to committee. (H a i st2 , es chance to every member. He could not agree to tra v t e part of his hon. friend's motion which would make three members a sufficient quorum. Mr. BROTHERTON said that this was an important question, miiand therefore, before they made a change they be certain that the change would be an improvement. After a few words from Mr. EWART in reply, Lord J. RUSSELL said that he could not consent to the proposition of his hon. friend, which went further than he was prepared to go. He would not, however, oppose refer ring the subject to a select committee, if the house enter tamed that proposition. He did not think that such a cont. mittee would have a great attendance in the present ses sion. ,(Hear.) But if the hon. gentleman brought such a proposition forward early neat session, he did not think that either the government or the house would say that the time was not a proper one for such a motion because the private committees were in course of being formed. Mr. EWART then proposed to alter his proposition into aw foe the appointment of a select committee, but at the eaggertiiin of Mr. Hume, be withdrew his motion, in con "%eises of the observations of the noble lord. The motion was consequently withdrawn. ' Lord NAAS moved a resolution, redoing the house to resolve itself into a committee on a neve day to consider the present state of the milling interest in Ireland. He drew a gloomy pietare of the leases sustained by the decay a the sues lavishing manufacture of corn into meal and goer ist that reentry, which before 1846 exported 600,000 wrier, of wheaten lour, whereas daring the present year It had imported of wheat and wheat dour 800,000 quarters, making a differeace of 1,900,000 quarters, the value of which was not less than 2,600,0001. He read details furnished by Irish millers of the nuntsier of I milks idending idle, and of the diminution of capi emdrietted- in this trade, and he attributed these Imes, which had been entirely unforeseen, he said, by the elitheal of the =wan of 1848, to the 'enormous =porta- One of Freed Sew. He pointed out the advantages usjoymil by the French millers in they protection against the Mennelitkon of foreign 'our and in the privilege of corn in bond, which would give additional C l it i e g te the increasing exportations of meal from Francis. So far from the poor being benefited by this influx of French flour into Ireland, Lord Naas read statements which purported to show that the price of that quality of meal consumed by the poor was, under the present system, greatly enhanced. Ho denied that the French and Belgian millers were superior to ours ; their machinery was English. Their power of competing with English and Irish millers was derived from the cheapness of labour, their protective laws, and the seal of their go vernments to foster native production. By this motion he meant to ask the house whether it was prepared to continue a system productive of such evil results to Ireland, and which was, in reality, a system of protection to the foreigner. Mr. LABOUCHERE said, the effect of the motion was not to restore protection to Irish millers, but to revive the corn laws. The ease of the Irish millers could not be sepa rated from that of English millers, and if protection were given to millers farmers were equally entitled to it. If, however, the house was of opinion that it should not retrace its steps and restore protection as a principle, it would d hide this class by assenting to the motion. He admitted the existence of distress in the milling interest, but there was not the slightest ground for attributing this distress to the alteration of the corn laws ; the millers had had more to do since their repeal than before. The importations of breadstu Ifs had greatly increased, but they consisted mainly of grain, and 3lr. Labouchere read figured statements, showing that the millers of the United Kingdom in general, and those of Ireland in particular, had had more grain to grind since the repeal of the corn laws than before. He believed that a great alteration in the circumstances of the mill ing trade had been going on before the alteration of the corn laws; but he was convinced that the British and Irish millers, as a class, would, in the long run, like other classes, successfully compete with all the world. Referring to the great improve. ment which had taken place among the poorer classes in Ireland, and which was traced directly to the increased means of obtaining provisions cheap, he intreated the house to pause before it sacrificed, upon a partial case, what ought to be the main object of legislation—the general well being of the great body of the people. 31r. J. STUART supported the motion, and dwelt upon the sußbrings of the milling class, which, like the A est India class, he said, was to be sacrificed to free trade, and protested against the doctrine of Mr. Labouchere, that certain classes must submit to be ruined, because there could be no change in our commercial policy without ruin to somebody. The millers of Ireland asked a consideration of their case, not for their own separate interests, but in harmony with the interests of the community. Mr. ANSTEY supported the motion, which was op posed by Mr. ROCHE, who characterised it as a claim for restric tion upon the importation of foreign flour, while foreign corn was to remain exempt from duty, which would benefit the millers at the expense of the agricultural interest. Mr. NEWDEGATE, in supporting the motion, made a general assault upon the theory and system of free trade, of the baneful effects of which the sufferings of the Irish mil-' lers, he said, afforded a sample. Mr. WILSON replied to Mr. NEWDEGTE, from whose facts he drew opposite conclusions. Ho explained the regulations to which the French millers were subjected in grinding foreign wheat, and contended that if they could import corn from Odessa, grind it in their own ports, re export it to Ireland, and undersell our millers, who could bring corn direct front the same place, there must be some inferiority in the latter, and he pointed out certain improvements in the foreign grinding machinery. Improved mills, were, however, extending in this country, which did not look as if our millers were afraid of foreign competition ; and so far from their labouring under any disadvantages as compared with the millers abroad, they enjoyed advantages which the foreign millers would never have. Colonel DUNNE regretted that the motion did not go far enough—every interest in Ireland should be protected. Lord NAAS having replied, Mr. MACGREGUIt rose amidst loud cries of " Divide," and, being unable to obtain a hearing, moved that the debate should be adjourned. Mr. HOME hoped this motion would not be pressed. The motion for adjournment was withdrawn, and the house divided on the original motion. For the motion 93 Against it l2B-35 ST. ALBANS ELECTION. Mr. BANKES, who had a motion on the paper relative to the witnesses who had absconded to avoid giving evidence before tbo St. Albans Election Committee, with- drew it, and gave notice of it for this day. CATTLE AND SHEEP STEALING. Mr. 0. HAMILTON moved for a return of the number of cases of cattle and sheep stealing reported by the con stabulary of the counties of Westmeath and Roscommon respectively, during each of the three last years ending the lst day of June ' ; of the number of persons commit ted for trial or bailed fur such offences ; of the number of such persons convicted ; of their sentences, and a statement of the names and cases in which such sentences have been commuted, or pardons granted, up to the present time; whether in each case the commutation or pardon was recom mended by the judge, and the nature and date of such com mutation or pardon. Lord J. Itusvatt and the Cuatscau.on of the Elena- Qllna opposed the return as calculated to raise an erroneous inference. After a few words from Mr. OTLARERSY, Mr. GROGAN. Sir W. SOMERVILLE, and COI. DVNNE, Lord J. RUSSELL said he could not agree to the motion as at present framed, as it interfered with the prerogative of the crown. He hoped, therefore, the hon. gentleman would not press the motion. Mr. DISRAELI thought there was much in the motion to recommend it if the latter part were struck out, namely, the words, " whether in each case the commutation or par don was recommended by tho judge, and the nature and date of such commutation or pardon." He begged to sug gest to his hon. friend the withdrawal of these words. Lord J. RUSSELL said in that case ho should consent to the motion. (Hear, hear.) The motion was then agreed to. The other orders were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at a quarter to 1 o'clock. PAIRS ON LORD NAAB'N MOTION.—Mr. Booker for with Mr. Hutchins against; Colonel Cluitterton for with Mr. Bagshawc against; Mr. Moody for with Mr. Pendarves against; Mr. Fuller for with Mr. Pelham Villiers against ; Mr. Scott for with Mr. Divett against. THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JULY 16, 1851. glie •flweOgi. TO CORRESPONDENTS, a Mama idldea iipres, - the wow samba's " ter pod. Onotta," Is nailed eve(' Taaaday add might. la tido adoduldastalstarlad ice " Lama," Loaded Erasing paper, art bo it tho Una% 10, Bouredwateopt, try Two °Va.* ow tie day of pandadles. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE Tan DAr—llaratai, AC Ma %Marron. A. I sm. Tiwimasow—Moralag, 4b. Sint .Afterres, 41i. the. LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JULY 16. THE speech delivered by the Archbishop of DUBLIN on Lord REDESDALE'S motion was, like everything falling from the lips of that sagacious and instructive prelate, remarkable for what it con ceded, suggestive in what it proposed, and consola tory, in these days of sacerdotal arrogance, for the benignity of its tone and the moderation of its spirit. Nevertheless, though correct and sound in its prin ciples, we most respectfully hold his grace to err in his practical conclusions, and shall endeavour very briefly to point out how. Dr. WHATELY, it is to be inferred from that speech (and of it only we shall treat), admits the church to be a corporation proceeding from and sub ordinate to the state ; he grants that Convocation has become a nullity, such as cannot now be usefully re vived; but he contends, as we understand him, that every subordinate corporation ought to have an effi• dent centre of administration of its own ; and as the municipality of London has its Courts of Aldermen and Common Council, he would give to the church some corresponding system,. composed, however, of the laity as well as the clergy. This, it will be at once observed, is an argument and a proposition of a very different sort from that of the Bishop of OXFORD, who, regarding the church as an institution independent of the state in its origin, claims for it a legislature of its own, an in dependent court of priests which would contest, and, if successful, control and ultimately supersede the state. Between these two prelates, the difference seems to be this'; that, while Dr. WIIATELY would develop the church according to its true subordinate theory, Dr. WILBERFoncit would practically create a new church in England, enjoying, as of divine right, all the temporalities of the subordinate church. A great chasm here ! One that may engulf the church, if prelacy do not keep away from its dangerous brinks : it yawns for the establishment. In Dr. Itillanit.v's scheme there is much show of reason and some substantial truth. Naturally and rea sonably, all corporations, ecclesiastical as well as lay, ought to have governing centres ; and the Church of England, though such a body, has no such organ. That must be conceded. It has no centre like the town council of a corporate town; nor even any administrative service similar to the Horse Guards or the Admiralty. There is no body charged with its general administration. Its bishops are merelyexecu tive functionaries ; and as a general administrator the Archbishop of CANTERBURY is a peer of parlia ment—nothing more. Parliament is supreme over the church as it is over all other corporations. But parliament is the legislature ; not an administrative council. Yet it exercises both functions towards the church ; and some evil is undeniably the result. The effort is as great to alter a line in the rubric, as it is to (five a totally new constitution to the church, which is absurd. Well, Dr. WILATELY pleads for some administra tive organ. He most wisely and constitutionally re jects the notion that convocation has any right to be that organ. tic asks for the creation of a now body. And herein, no doubt, he finds considerable support. There is, be it at once admitted, an awkwardness in compelling the church, iu order to carry out the details of its daily working, to have recourse to a body which is composed of many mem bers nut belonging to the church. It is not only awkward ; let us go further, and admit that in sonic respects, and to some extent, it is also unfair. This may bo yielded in argument to a prelate who does not assail, as others of his order do, the sovereignty of the nation, and who only asks for a subordinate council or organ. Right, then, it may be theoretically ; Dr. WIIATE LY is nevertheless wrong practically ; because there is no chance whatever, in the present temper of men's minds, or in any temper that is likely to prevail for generations, of obtaining a satisfactory institution such as he wants—such as might be awful. For wo should not get the capital point— the all in all—a truly subordinate body. And not securing that, any other body would aim at becoming an independent court : a body to supersede parlia ment, not only as an administrative organ but as the legislature of the church. And that would be ruin. For it would be what Dr. WILBERFOItCE wants—a new church of England altogether. But Dr. WIIATELY may perhaps reply—Look at the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland. We will. Indisputably, that Assembly does much useful business. It smooths and facilitates, in seve ral important respects, the daily action of the church of Scotland. It would, however, be otherwise in England, and for this reason, that an English as sembly would soon be tested in a way that the Scotch has never yet been. For the kirk is bound down by the most rigid formulae of doctrine, settled at the Reformation ; and to these for multe in all their nice details, both clergy and laity— aye, and nine-tenths of the dissenters of Scotland also—firmly, eagerly, and enthusiastically adhere. Whereas the church of England embraces men and parties of the most opposite theological views. It is a broad church; and a broad church, governed by a free deliberative assembly, is an impossibility. His tory exhibits no such body ; it could not exist. Parliament is broad; because men do not make it a matter of personal conscience to secede from a body which holds protection or free-trade, monarchy or republicanism, trial by jury or by judge. But it is otherwise with religious opinions. In that region it is impossible to sustain the maxim "Live and let live." Sacerdotalists and the upholders of the doc trine that CHRIST has lett no one fixed constitu tion for the church could never co-exist long in the same deliberative body. The breadth of the church of England must perish, and that is the answer to Archbishop WIUTELY. For let his grace, in his turn, look at Scotland. The views of doctnne were the same. The question of patronage was subordinate, though important. The assembly ruled one way, the state another, and a great disruption was the consequence. The majority seceded. Now mark. As soon as an English assembly had I made a declaration of doctrine, there would be no '' , alternative ; either parliament must enact the new doctrine, or the assembly . would declare its right of judging such matters violated ; and a tree church of England would issue forth. There would bo no esca Tri; might suit Bishop WILBERFORCE and his allies; such a conclusion would be accepted by them. For avowedly . they would strip parliament of the right of declaring the doctrine of the church of England; they deny the actual historical verity that it was parliament which did declare the present creed of the church ; and they ride down a positive fact by a false and arrogant theory. What they now do in comparative safety, a deliberative assem bly would, however, enact with the greatest danger. Dr. WUATELY, we know, would, on the contrary, repel any such conclusion; he speaks of a subordi nate body only ; but his scheme would end in a revo lutionary one. Hence it is to be deeply regretted that any such views have the high sanction of his high name and vigorous mind. THE GREAT EXHIBITION.—Yesterday the unpre cedentedly large number of 74,122 persons visited the Crys tal Palace, and 3,5091.85. was taken in shillings at the doors. Notwithstanding this enormous crowd, consequent probably upon the added attractions of the cattle-show at %Windsor, Ices inconvenience from overcrowding was experienced than might have been anticipated. The Queen and Prince Albert again visited the building yesterday morning. MALTA, ItTLY 9.—As to the real whereabouts of the fleet no certain news had reached. It is thought to be at Tunis. Terrible and Scourge are cruising among the lonian Islands. Racer is to go to the Adriatic, and early in Augu,t rendezvous at Zente, when Scourge will return to Malta. Growler has left Constantinople for Alexandria, with despatches from Sir S. Canning to H.B.M. Consul- General, supposed to have reference to the intended rail between Cairo and Suez. Frolic (brig) was at Rhodes on tho 220 d ult., and was to leave on the following day, on a cruise after the celebrated pirate Negri, Capt. Vansittart having two piratical prisoners who know Negri under his charge. Negn bad recently captured some vessels, but had not murdered the Crew,. lie had three vessels—one a very fast one, which he would retain ; and two others slower, which he would get rid of. Vbf Court. Immediately on her Majesty's return from supper at the state ball in Buckingham Palace, on Monday even ing, the Highland reel was danced by a party of eight, four ladies and four gentlemen of the Scottish nobility and gentry present; and was succeeded by Ruidhle 1 hulk chain," played by her Majesty's piper, and danced by the same party. The Queen remained in the hall-room until two o'clock cm., when her Majesty and Prince Albert left, and the royal and distinguished circle quitted Buckingham Palace. Ile Queen and Prince Albert, attended by the Hon• Lucy Kerr, Lord Charles Fitaroy, and Lieut.-Colonel Francis Hugh Seymour,visited the Exhibition of the Works of Industry of .11 Nations, yesterday morning. The Prin cess Royal and the Princess Mice, attended by Miss Hild yard, also visited the Exhibition, yesterday forenoon. Her Majesty remained one hour at the Exhibition, and then returned to Buckingham Palace with Prince Albert. Prince Albert, attended by Lieut. Col. the Hon. C. B. Phipps and Lieut. Col. F. IL Seymour, left Buckingham Palace at • quarter-past two o'clock yesterday afternoon fur the Bricklayers Arms station, and proceeded by railway to the residence of Mr. Cubitt, near Boxhill. The Prince afterwards visited the Philanthropic Institution at Redhill, and returned to Buckingham Palace at a quarter-past seven o'clock. Prince Arthur and the Princesses Helena and Louisa took an airing yesterday in an open carriage and four. Her Majesty and Prince Albert, with the Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, and the Princess Alice, honoured the Royal Italian Opera with their presence List evening. The royal suite consisted of the Viscountess Jocelyn, Lord Charles Fitzroy, and Lieut. Colonel F. 11. Seymour. The Viscountesa Jocelyn has relieved the Countess of Oaiasborough in her duties as the Lady-in-Waiting to her M 'le a l ie i sty Duchets of Kent visited the Duchess of Gloucester, yesterday, at ()teamster House. The Duchess of Kent, accompanied by Prince Edward of Saxe Wtimar, and attended by Lady Augusta Bruce, the Baroness de Speth, and Lord James Murray, honoured her Majesty's Theatre with her presence last evening. Despatches were received yesterday at the Colonial office from the Governor of Gibraltar. DEATH OF LIZUT.-COLONEL MULLEN, K. 11.— Lieut.-Colonel Mulles, who formerly served in the Ist Royal Regiment, from which he retired in 1843, died on the 7th hut. lie bad served in the West Indies and the Peninsula, and received the war medal with two clasps tor Guadeloupe (the attack and capture in 1810), and for the battle of Vittoria in 1813. In 1835 he was nominated a knight of the Hanoverian order. ARRIVAL OF TUE 88f11 ItEOIMENT.--On Monday afternoon the service companies of the 88th, on board the Resistance, arrived of Spithead from Nova Scotia, but im mediately proceeded round to Chatham, where the regi ment is to disembark to-day or to-morrow, and proceed thence to Canterbury to join the depot companies. The 88th embarked at Cork in December, 1840, for Malta, Pm' eeeded early in 1847 to the West Indies from the Medi terranean, and went on to Halifax, 11.5., in May, 18:70. FRANCE. PARIS, TrEIDAY EVENING. In the debate of yesterday General Cavaignae succeeded M. de Mornay. After some remarks in reference to M. Falloux's speech, he said : I have been accused of saying that the republic was of divine right. That is an invention of our adver saries, who, knowing that things of divine right and little favour in France, have cleverly applied the ex pression to the republic. What I said was, that a govern ment which permitted its principle to be discussed was a dead government, and that is not an axiom, but a fact. Since I said that, we have gained a victory which I did not hope for. Your conunittee has admitted that you, the Legislative Assembly, have no right to put the question between the republic and monarchy. But here I observe a strange contradiction in the conclusions of our commit tee. You cannot decide on that great question, and you are to abandon it to a constituent to be convoked by you. It is a dastardly and hypocritical way of solving so great a question to leave it to chance. The moment you admit that you have no right to raise that question yourselves, you prove that you have no right to call upon a constituent to do so. However, what has passed proves that our adver saries admit with us that there is a something above the constitution. That something they call the national power ; we call it the national sovereignty, which is by no means the same thing. The people have the power in fact to make as many revolutions as they please, but is that the basis upon which you would establish society in France ? When you have established your monarchy loy virtue of the principle that the people have the power to do as they like, will you allow us to conic here and propose to appeal again to the people to dismiss their monarck ? If you say yea, I take the liberty of telling you that you do not know yourselves. (Laughter.) Show me a monarchy which shall not be a negation or an abdication of the great priu ciple of national sovereignty, and then I will allow you to discuss the liberty of the republic. You may per haps speak of the national sovereignty expressed in the char ter of IMO. That was a false national sovereignty, recognised for an hour, just long enough to commit suicide ; the true sovereignty is that which cannot deny itself, cannot abdicate. If you say that national sovereignty is only an accident, then mimed the republic is but a form; but the moment you admit that sovereignty to he a principle, you admit the republic to be a right. (Loud applause on the Left.) I proceed now to examine the question of revision. To those—and they are the greater number—who in demand ' ing revision wish to ameliorate the republic, I my that we have never asserted that the constitution was perfect, but if it is to be revised, it should be done impartially, and in a moment of tranquillity. Is the country now calm ? You daily tell us the contrary, to justify your repressive laws. Is public opinion calm? An examination of the public jour nals which would impose the revision upon us, would show the present epoch to be imbued with a spirit o f ' aggression against the law. Is this assembly calm ? No; for it is not firmly confident in its own power, and has been told as an argument fur revision, that the law which it would main tain may be overturned in spite of the Assembly. The de mand for revision cannot be based upon experience, for we say that the constitution has never been fairly tried. The argumenta against the constitution arc those, and no others, which were brought forward in ISIS. When we see what you have done under this constitution, we may justly feel alarmed wuen we think of what volt would do with one of your own making. Has the com:titution hindered you from passing laws against the right of public meetings ? against the peen ? against universal suffrage Surely in these re spects religion cannot be necessary for you. A second chamber has been asked for, and we arc told there is a na tural aristocracy, an aristocracy of genius an aristocracy of services rendered , of experience acijuded. So thought our fathers ; and framing a constitution on that principle, they compromised liberty and prepared the way for usurpation. Be fore we consent to have two chambers we must get rid of all royal and imperial pretenders; we must be assured that an other aristocracy, which we desire not to have, will never seat themselves upon the benches which we should provide for a natural aristocracy. Till then we will confide the preservation of the republic to the concentrated energy of a single Chamber. Against Art. co, the example of the United States and Wusloiugton is cited. France has not yet found a Washington. In the meantime, let us keep our Art. 15. It is our palladium. The prolongation of the term of the President's power is demanded in the name of stability. Does that mean the stability of government, or of those who exercise it ? It is this latter stability which has destroyed all the governntents of France for the last 60 years. I ant far from intending any personal application to the President of the Republic when I say that the prolon gation is the first and natural step towards usurpation, which is what we will not have. I come now to those who ask for the revision in the hope of destroy ing the republic. They complain that the constitution is a work of suspicion ugainst the President of the re public. Ido not deny it. It is a work of distrust, not of his person or of his character, but of the pretensions w hick he is supposed to entertain. The constitution was right to be distrustful of its enemies. For those to whom I now speak the republic can produce nothing acceptable. The constitution is good in our opinion because it is bail hi yours, because it is an obstacle to your projects. A hurs dred,titnes over, we do nut say that it is perfect, we will con sent to have it revised whenever we do not see monarchy concealed behind the revision. The constitution will issue triumphant from the present ordeal, and those who now most furiously attack it will perhaps one day be too glad to seek for themselves in the constitution a protection which it alone can afford. (Much applause on the Left.) In the sitting of the Assembly to-day M. COQUEREI., a republican member of the titrs-parti, made an effective speech in favour of revision. lie said, on opening the resumed debate, that he should grapple more closely with the question, particularly as related to the possible re-election of the present President. He beiran by refuting the doctrine of Cavaignac as to the sacred immutability of the republic. Passing in re, iew the interests and opinions of different parties he endeavoured to prove that all of them were equally bound to admit revision the Uric:mists, because the government of July was based upon the national consent; the legitiiniets because they now admitted that the right divine ought to be confirmed by the popular sanction; the republicans, becauee, notwith standing the doctrines asserted by Den. Cavaignac, the essence of the republic lay in consulting the will of the people, and in obeying the dictates of that will. For his own port lie had long been a republican, and believed that the republi can principle would eventually triumph among all nations. He demanded the revision of the constitution to restore to the nation its complete unshackled liberty. Although he foresaw that Louis Napolean had a great chance of being re-elected, not less on account of his being at present in possession of power, than because his name was the only , one universally known in France, still he, M. Coquerel, was far from desiring the renewal of the President's autho rity. But he thought that the probability of his being again the elect of the people would be greatly increased by the refusal of revision. lie (M. Coquerel) would greatly regret such a result, not because he was insensible to the services which the President had rendered to the country, but because it was inconsistent with democratic institutions to continue, under the republic, power in the bands of one who had the fault of being a prince. He con cluded with expressing the hope that France, who had abandoned herself once during the saturnalia of 93, would retain upon this occasion all her self-pessession, and save herself by the wise use she would make of her sovereignty. This speech made considerable sensation in the Assembly ; but was bitterly complained of by the legitimists, of whom the greater part protested against motives attributed to them by M. Coquerel in dc mantling revision. The vote of legitimists in favour of revision was not to be considered, they said, as an admission of the sovereignty of the peopl , . The tribune was next occupied by M. Grevy, who began by stating that the law of the 31st May, and the other laws restricting the liberty of meeting and the freedom of the press, had put all possibility of his friends acceding to the revision of the constitution out of the question. The Assembly not having evinced any impression at this assertion of M. Grevy corresponding to the gravity of the announcement, the orator appeared to be d isappoi nted, and presently he brought his speech abruptly to a close, and descended from the tribune without having fall explained his meaning. After a suspension of the sitting, M. Dupin announced that M. Grevy desired to continue his speech to-morrow. He then read a letter from General Magnan, who commands at Strasbourg, re signing his seat in the Assembly, as incompatible with his continuance in command of the 3rd division. This announcement caused it to be reported that General Nlagnan's resignation was only a preliminary step to his succeeding to the post of General Ilaraguay d'Hilliers. M. Michel de Bourges then ascended the tribune. He vindicated for the republic the right and privilege of having its principle discussed, and was completely opposed to the doctrine of General Cavaignac on this subject. He then affirmed the superiority of the republic, which existed because it ought to exist, and answered to the instincts, the needed wishes of the people. It was a necessity de rived from the first revolution, and which wounded no social principle, an assertion which could not truly be made of monarchy. The sitting would ter minate with this speech. Cardinal Wiseman, with his grand vicar, Mr. Scarl, visited the principal churches and buildings of Caen on Saturday. At the library, he wrote, is the book of autographs, " In remembrance of my first' visit to the cradle of English civilisation, and to the earliest types of her religious architecture." There was a considerable improvement manifested to-day in the funds, which was attributed to the orderly and peaePablc commencement of the debate on revision. The Fives closed at 94.70, with a rise of 40c. The Threes rose 2,5 c., and closed at 66 . 55. I ITALY. The Chaervatoro Romano of the 7th announces that the Bishop of Southwark was consecrated on the preceding day, in the church of the English college, by Cardinal Franzoni, assisted by Monsignor Colon na, Archbishop of Loreto and Recanati, and Monsignor Salvator, Bishop of Porto. A letter from Naples, of the 3rd, in the C'nstitu sionak of Florence, states that 46 persons have now been arrested on account of the part they took in the ' affair of the 15th of May, 1818. Among these per sons arc :—Archdeacon Cagnozzi, aged 97; the e:- minister Pietro Leopardi, who was at Turin on that day; Vieenzo Tavazzi, aged 86; and Giuseppe Soli dati, aged 83. AMERICA. ARRIVAL OF THE ARCTIC. The steam-ship Arctic (United States line of vessels), Capt. Luce, passed Holyhead yesterday, at 4 p.m., after a rapid passage across the Atlantic, and arrived at Liverpool at midnight. She sailed from the port of New York on the sth inst., three days after the Niagara. The number of passengers is 123, and the amount of specie 985,000 dollars The steam ship Baltic arrived at New York from Liverpool on the day the Arctic sailed. The money market at New York was much easier, the arrival of two and a half million dollars gold having given more confidence to the market. Money was still in active demand. The securities and stocks quotations are unchanged. One or more new failures had occurred, the latest being the suspension of a cotton speculator, Peter Cowrey, jun. Several steamers were daily expected with the dust shipped over the Isthmus front Panama, and the remittances it was hoped would strengthen firms whole position was doubtful. There waslittle news of importance at New York. the excitement connected with the celebration of the anniversary of American independence fully occupy ing the public mind. The judge before whom the ease of the deserter Walsh was tried, at the instance of Sir 11. Bulwer, for stealing arms, fie., and deserting from the British army at New Brunswick, had decided that there was not sufficient evidence to convict the prisoner of larceny in the legal sense of the term, and he was accordingly discharged. On leaving the court, three groans fir the. British minister were called for, and responded to by two-thirds of the audience present, who were sons, or descendants of sons of the "Emerald Isle." The corporal, Don.:e, who was sent from St. John, N. 8., to give evidence against Walsh, has also deserted, and taken up his abode in the United States. Dates from California have been received at New York to Ist June, by the steamer Prometheus. More than three million of dollars of gold arrived at Pauama on the way to Now York. San Francisco and Stockton had been both almost re-built. The mining accounts were very good. The mer cantile interests was not recovering so rapidly as was expected after the late tires. Letters loom Canada announce that Attorney- General Baldwin had resigned his office, on account of being deserted in the vote to abolish the Court of Chancery by the Upper Canada members. Lord Elgin, who was entertained nt a pubic dinner at forunto, to promote British American railroad enterprise, had delivered a long speech on reciprocity. Late advices state that the provinces of Pasta and Tuquerres were in rebellion against Bogota, and Ecuador was likely to join. A battle had taken place, in which the rebels had been defeated and tied to Ecuador. N . . alpartuso dates of Ma• 24 had been received by the British steamer New Grenada at Panama. Many parties had been arrested for participation in recent riots, but trials had not taken place. The New Gre nada had 800,000 dollars of silver on board. From Chili, Bolivia, and Peru, the accounts arc politically unimportant. At Valparaiso a great sen sation had been caused by the issue of a decree pro hibiting the circulation of the doubloons of Central America, New Grenada, and Colombia, on account of short weight. The accounts of a battle between the Dominicans and Ilaytians, on the ZlUth of May, are confirmed. The Ilaytians were defeated. [For markeU see last page.] INDIA AND CHINA. THE OVERLAND MAIL. By our usual despatches in anticipation of the Indian mail we have news from Calcutta to the 2nd, Madras the 9th of June; Hong Kong the 23rd, and Singapore the 31st of May. There is no Bombay mail. Simla. says the Madras Athenerum, at present holds within its cool retreats the greater portion of the official aristocracy of India. 'the Governor-Ge neral and suite; the Commander in Chief and staff; the Lieutenant-Governor of the North Western pro vinces; the magnates of the Punjaub ; with an exceeding great army of collectors, magistrates, majors, and captains, have all sought shelter on its bracing heights from the lassitude of an Indian summer, and the 8611 severer exhaustion of arduous official duties. As for the lesser guberna torial lights, the Governor of Bombay is recruiting his flagging energies on the breezy hills of Mater buloihwur ; while Sir Henry Pottmgcr seeks rest ' from the dust and excitement of Madras, on the quiet banks of the Ennore lake. How admirable and beneficent the provision of nature that has thus placed at accessible distances from each seat of go vernment some quiet shady spot of cool retirement, where the dying sound of wearisome politics Fulls a soft murmur on the uninjured cur ' of the exhausted statesman. But for this opportunity of occasional recreation, how many a valuable life might have been sacrificed to the Herculean labours of an Indian government! s The newslont the north west frontier is of a more pacific character than it has been lately. Thu hillmen are all quiet; no apprehensions of arty im mediate outbreak are entertained ; and all our own troops have been withdrawn from the advanced posts to which they had been moved in expectation of an. outbreak. Let us hope our unruly neighbours may after all prove more reasonable than we have been anticipating. At Lahore itself, the military , hospitals are fast filling with English soldiers labouring under fever. It may be remembered that last year this fever, sup posed, without doubt truly, to be generated by the miasma arising from the stagnant water in the nu merous hollows about Anarkullee, laid prostrate great numbers of our brave soldiers. Government have, however, placed between two and three thousand rupees in the hands of the sanitary committee fur the purpose of its being employed in the removal of these and other causes of un healthiness. It is now doubted whether the expected visit of the Governor-General to the . capital will take pace or not. Ilia lordship's mind Would appear to be rather changeable ; his present inclinations being understood to be in favour of a trip to the more agreeable climate of Clieence. Sir Walter Gilbert has arrived at Calcutta. From the Nizum's dominions there is nothing new. From the kingdom of Oudo our latest advices aro dated the 23rd May. The Zemindar of Kuppradeen has evacuated that fort, but has now fled into another stronghold. Captains Magness and Bunbury have cannonaded i:. for nine days, and at lust hotted him out. Lucknow has just been the scene of a most riotous proceeding, causing the loss of more than twenty men killed and wounded. The scene of ac tion was at Hos.ieinabad. During the storm with which Southern India was visited in the commencement of May, the bridge in process of construction over the Cauvery - , near Trichi nopoly, sustained serious damage. The progress of this important and expensive work has been singu larly slow and unfortunate. People arc beginning to surmise that a change in the engineering depart ment would not be unadvisable. From China the news is unimportant. The insur gents in the Kwaugsi provinces were still in force, and preparations were actively carried on at Cantoa against them. As many as 5,000 men (says the iriend of C'hino) have been seen to pass up the river in boats, all accoutred for immediate action. They appear to be levies from the north-east coast, speak ing an entirely different dialect from that spoken by the Canton people. We have well authenticated rumours, also, of a serious rising in the western districts of the Kwang tung province. It is now some time since a report reached us that the insurgents, in order to keep up a communication with the sea board, had attacked Keu-ehau-fu, a departmental city, on the bank of a river about thirty miles from the boundaries of Kwangsi, and midway between them and the -- Seal y~_,_ _ T~--- ••••geg.e.• ..