The Express. — London, England, 1848-08-18 00:00:00

realised as much es 55e. per qr. Wheat, new, white, 530. to' 56e. ; red, 50s. to 52a, ; old, white, 565. to 681. ; red, 541. to Ids. Barley, 30s. to 32s Oats, 201. to 224. Beans, 40s. to 444. Rye, 345. to 365. Malt, 6 0.. to 60,. per qr. ZfiWnceiV, August 17.-We have to repast slugs market of Wheat, for whseh early in the day hi g h prices were de manded, which which rather checked the trade, but Mei. matelv • considerable quantity was disposed of at an advance of 3s. to 4s per qr. There was some quantity of new. condi tion middling, and the general quality not fine, and °BREWS lag the opinion expressed some time since, that the crop would scarcely reach an average. But little doing Bar ley ; Oats, Beans, and Peas remain the same. Since last week we have had e considerable quantity of rain, which has totally suspended harvest operations. Averages to the sth of August Wheat, 632 qrs., ills. ; Barley, 10 qrs., 30s. ; Oats, 12 qrs., 235. ; Beans, 11 qm., 41s. 7d. PLYMOUTH, August 17.-The weather continues wet, and all harvest work is stopped by it. Much corn, cut and uncut, bus already received coasiiterable damage. There was* brisk Wheat trade this morning, at 2 i. advance. Flour, 4os. per sack. Rouse", August 17.-This day our market was well at tended, and, owing to the showery weather we have had for several days past, there was some degree of briskness in the Wheat trade. PAM ranging, according to quality, from 131. to 141. per load. Other descriptions of grain wen about the same as last week. ROY6TON, August 16.-A liberal supply of new and old Wheat, which supported an advance of full le. pet load; the day proving tine, acted as a check upon'a furteer advance. Old Wheat, 265. to 345. per load; new, 28s. tom 1. Return posted: Wheat, 9 51 . qrs. 2 bush., average. 7d. per qr. Barley, 6 qrs., average, 295. Peas, It qrs. 2" bush., average, 323. Seats:men, August 15.-We hail good supply of Wheat at this day's market, and a fair demand at 3e. advance. Few Oats or Beans showing, and they realised rather more money. The housing of Wheats is retarded by the wet weather. The disease in Potatoes is growing worse daily ; in some plats there is scarcely a good one to be seen. Sroettroxros-Tems, August 16.-The weather during the put week has been dry, but not forcing. Harvest in this district will be pretty general the latter end of this week. We have small arrivals of grain from the coast. whilst the farmers' supply continues abundant for the season. This morning we had a good show of Wheat from the prowess, which met a fair demand, at an advance of 3s. per qr. on the rates of this day week. Forel as and south country is held for a similar improvement. Barley in good demand. Oats, Beans, and Peas, without change in value. Flour, 31. per tack higher. The following are the current prices;- British Wheat, per ar., of 63111. to the bushel, Durham and Yorkshire red, 03s. to 583.; white, 56e. to 60s. ; south couatry, red, 53e. to 56e.; white, 5135. to 60s. Oats, feed, per qr., 21a. to 23a. ; potato, 24e, to 265. Beans, new, Us. to 40s. Flour per sack of 2801 be., fine, 425. to 434. ; superfine% 451. to 46e. per qr. Oatmeal, per sack of 21101ba, Scotch, 30s. to ,t i ts. per qr. Foreign Wheat, per qr. of 631bs. to the bushel, Danteic, Konisberg, and Elbing, Os. to 60s. per qr. ; Rostock. Wismar, and Stralsund, 565. to 58s. Hamburg and Stettin,to 575. ; Holstein and Danish, 545. to 5 7 3 . ; Polish, Odessa, 495. to 51s. Barley, grinding, 265. to 28s. Oats, Dutch and Friesland, 20s. to 235. Beane, ticks, 345. to 36e. Ryemeal, per ton, 61. 15s. Clove seeds, red, in bond, per cwt., 26% to 345. ; white, 30s. to 365. r • UXBRIDGE, August 17.-A small market of Wheat, which met a slow sale, at prices the turn dearer from those of last week ; new, about Is. per qr. higher ; the best price made was 16s, sd. per load; old, 2s. per qr. higher. Beans and Barley Is. per qr. dearer. Rye in demand at 32e. per qr. Oats without alteration. WORKINGTON, August 16.-The very fine harvest weather we have had for the hat ten days caused a dull market to day for all kinds of grain. At a later hour than usual a clearance was effected, at la. per qr. for Wh.st under last week's prices. Barley and Oats fully maintained. Wheat, per 3 imperial buhels, from 20s. to 245. Limeatcx, August 16.-The weather for the past week, with few intervals of sunshine, was most unfavourable to the ripening mops. Barley and Oats are, however, in • more forward condition than hail been anticipated. The Wheat crop is very thin, and will yield a deficient supply. The Potatoes now in every direction are so diseased, that the the most sanguine do not calculate upon their keeping. The later sorts, m some districts, are spoken of as not worth • digging. EDINI3CROII, August 16.-The weather during the put week hat on the whole been favourable to the cops. !lav ing only a moderate supply of Wheat from the gewren to day, this, along with the advance at Mark-lane on Monday, caused the trade to open with considerable animation, and • -clearance wee easily effected at 2s. per qr. above those current this day se'nnight. For foreign Wheat there was an im proved inquiry, and a considerable business was done at an unprovement of Is. to 2e. per qr. Barley held at Is. per qr. more morey, but by no means a free sale at the advance. Oats were dull, and, with the exception of chow parcels, were rather cheaper. Beans unaltered. aver Wheat, to32s. p, 6lld. 7s. ; average, 61e. Id. tarley, top, 365. ; age, Oats, top. 275. 6d. ; average, 255. 6d. Beans, top, 395. ; average, 365. 7d. GIABOOK, August IG.-The arrivals coastwise at Grange mouth since the 9th lest., have consisted, for the most part, of Wheat, front the English coast and from Leith, amounting to 3,430 qrs. ,• and 2,700 qes. Barley, 1,030 qrs. Oats and 1,700 sacks Flour have been received ; also 500 qrs. Wheat, 1,050 qrs. Barley from abroad. To the Clyde, with the exception of 5,600 barrels Flour from Canada, and two parcels of Indian Corn from New York, the supplies have continued light. The weather has been dry, with a cold east wied. The cutting of Barley hes commenced, and several fields of Wheat ere already cut in this neighbour hood. Notwithstanding the arrivals noted above are to a fair amount, very few samples have been offering, and the value of most articles has tended upwards. The stocks in gra nary may be said to be exhausted, and the trade in a great measure wiU be dependent upon imports until the new crop comes to market. At this day's market higher prices were asked for Wheat and Flour, which were only obtained in a retail way, and the quotations of last week may be repeated generally. Oats and Oatmeal were lens free of sal e; but previous rates were supported. There was a fair demand for Barter, at the currency of last Wednesday. Some 531 b. Danish brought 226. 6d. per 320.b5. The reports about our Potato crop are not worse to-day. It is partially blighted ; but the roots on examination ar... apparently sound. although in some instances disease is found to exist. The following are the prices :-Wheat, per 241 lb., English, white, Old, 28s. to 30s. ; new, 28e. to 30s. ; red, old, 278. 64. to 28s. 6d.; new, 275. 13d. to 29a.; Scotch, white old, 275. to 295. ; new, 2n to 295. ; Irish, red and white, old. 245. to 275. ; new, 255. to his. 6d.; Dantsic, old, 28.. 6d. to 30s. Pomeranian. old, 275. 6d. to 285.; new. 28s. to 29e. Danish, old, 275. to 275. fid. • new. 275. 6d. to 265.; Odemasoft, old, 235. to 25e. • Russian , old, 225. to 235. ; Canadian, old, 255. to 2es. 6d. ; new, 255. 61. to 275. 6d. ; United States, old, 265. to 275. dd. Barley,per 3201 b., Ber wick and Scotch, new, 22a. 6d. to 245.; Irish, new, 20s. to 22a. 6d. ; Pomeranian, &a, new, 225. 6d. to 235. 6d. Danish, 225. to 235. Oats, per 2641 be , Irish. Wexford, &c., new, 17s. 6d. to 19s. • Limerick, etc., new, 19s. to 205.; extra, pre pared, new 20;. 6d.; foreign, Russian, old, 17s. 6d. to 18e. 6d. Danish, old, 17s. to 17s. 6d. Beans frith, newt per 2601 b ,18a. te 195.; Egyptian, per 28011 w., old, 14a. to 15s. Peas, per aelbs., white, old, 18s. to 19s. • grey, 17s. to 18s. • Canadian, old, 17s. 6d. to 18s. Flour, per ViOlbs. English, ii super., old, 435. to 44a. ; Irish ditto, old, 425. 6d. to 4 . 6d.; fine, old, 395. to extra choice qualities, old, 445. to 455. ; American, per harrel, sweet, old, 295. 6d. to 30s. 6d. ; Canadian, sweet, old, /9s. 13d. to 30s. 8d ; sour, old, 265. to 275. atmeal, per 28011 w., Irish, common cut, new, 30s. to 325. Indian Corn, per 2801h5 ., 19s . 64. to 204.64. Indies Corn Ideal, per barrel, 15s. to leis. 110PS.—ftoRoton MARK ET.—Meaara. Pattenden and Smith report that the mould continue to increase, and many peruse consider duty much overrated at 180,0001. New Mid a it. Helots N. oto 4t. 0 ll ' ,areng Keete.t.eet.l , 16 , 0 72. 4 Weald of Keats 2 7t02 16 V earVng Wawa „ 113 tot 2 'Swam out Zarolu 4 0 to 6 0 FARNHAM, August 17.—0 u and r lope arerout much into improved the lest two or three days, ar i o fast ine Hop. and, should we get warm weather, the produce will be large. -- --- CATTLE, &e.--13mrrrinELD, TWO n'Clock.—The supply of Beasts to-day Is large, and the demand wry limited, except for the very choicest descriptionr, nor do these sell so readily as on Monday last. The average of busi mei, done must be quoted 21. per lower, although some of the most *clang Soots, &c., have reached 4s. 4d. The number of Sheep is smaller than of late, quite adequate however, to the demand, trade being exceedingly dual ; prier s are about the same as on Monday for best qualities, but rith.r lower for Ewes and second-rare, and a clearance is with difficulty effected. Lomb is very unsaleable, at late ratter. There is again a large supply of foreign Calves, which causes a plow trade, at rsther less money. From Hol. lands nd G e rmany we have 133 Beasts, 1.090 Sheep, and 303 Calvin : from Spain, 92 Beasts ; France, 43 ; Scotland, 200; and about 120 Wok Cows from the Rome Counties. .tone or One- ad. d. Ver atone et 81.15. 11. petit9.9o, Herefords.. 40 4 2 Beat ai 11f..bth. fits 00 0 0 Best Nhort- horn . —.. 38 4 0 Beat a.wook 144 6 , Second quality Boots— 210 3 4 Do Is. Snore Cacao . • • 40 6 9 Do do. bborn . 00 0 0 Beet Dm lialtlenda 8 6 0 Lamba_ • , 1 4 6 0 B eg at. at mar aca. 1.134 ; Sbeep and l ambs , 10,10 4 ; ~,,,,,,, 647; Apt. 300. RoTHERHANI, August 14.—The supply of Beef was good Of Mutton a short supply, yet equal to the demand. The at tendance of buyers not numerous, which elated the Mutton. trade to rule dull at the following quotations: Beef, 6s. 6d. to in per stone. Mutton, 6d. to 61d. per lb. Cattle, 210 ; Sheep, 1,140. TAVISTOCK, Activist 16.—There was a large show of Bullocks of moderate rullity, and buyers were numerous, from east and lent. Fat Cow per Oxen, from 60s. to tAis. per cwt.: contract Steers, 4.55. cwt. It good demand for Cows and Calves, which fetched 50s. to 645. per cwt. Fat Calve, 6d. per lb. There was a large quantity of Sheep and Lemba good fat Sheep rather scarce, fetching 6d. per lb. ; there was a great number of rams, but few sold. There were 322 Bu leeks sold. EniNne Ron, August 16.—The number of Sheep and Lambs thin morning was lea than last week, there being 4,226, or 503 fewer. Demand being good, last week's prices were fully supported. Top price of best Mutton, Old. pp. lb. ; current, fid.; middling and inferior, 4 pl. to 34d. Top of Larnlw. 211. ; current, from 144. to 161. ; second quality, 10,. to 125.; interior. 6.. to Os. A few were turned out un sold. The aupyly of cattle was much the same as last mar ket, , he numb , . r being 311, or 6 more than last wink. De mand, particularly for good cattle, was also good, and last week's prices more than aupportcd. 0.6 very fine lot was sow a' 261. per 11..0u1, being about Bs. 6d. per Dutch stone. The current pe:Oe, 74. Gal. to do.; interior, 6s. to 60. flld. Nearly nil anla. y„! mat's „11cr tla sea last mle. THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, AUGUST 18, 1848, letter relating to Mr. O'Brien's arrest, which bad be= tee cleaved from Gen. M•Donald, whose conduct, as well aa ghee of the diem and soldiers under his omantend, had, ho wee h• • to met with the approbation el tlho w =seAler .l ' • hear.) Glaberal le So at Dairlln;' dated Theti allba leAuft. 9 1 0 . :E c t ud yEr.:f • *tams of lbw elses of the 11. inset dleapesineld at glin rest way In which • s wee maimpelete DaM l / 1 01114 Met no blow had been OM they me methlei ep asempleint limiest " • r iMli Jmz .s embber, ,sed ass sow eolioning ems 7 to nolo a al it. All that I l ean them *atomics* that la m told to Mee put a plated to =dot a railway ver, sad posh= some lawyer in the Welt (Laumbter.) General Macdonald does not mem even to bam ►bean correctly informed of the charge against hint. meremds Thelma, may be true, to so far that I may have been jostled un willingly smiled such a person in the crowd which were then collect ing. But, as to the pistol, I have none, nor have I handled any; end It is evident that in thee and very likely in the other can, 1 have been mistaken for another. The only charge of which °nerd Macdonald had bend, appeared to have arisen out of the transaction eubsequently mentioned in his letter. General Macdonald proceeds to ay: Captain Maekende went by my order* to the railway Ration, to regnant that an engine would be immediately rot ready, and to phis re med anything edam that line till after /Mite O'Brien passed with I authorised Captain Nadinee to use force, if awls should L al found neonsiry, to insure an very important so object ; mad he informs me that, on reaching the elation, he found an engine with two carriages attached in the act of starting towards Dublin. Ue de sired the engine-man not to go ea till he ordered him. The man replied, " Ile could receive orders from no one but Mr. Minting " (who was not there), and was in the act of putting the engine in mo. Bons theta n Mackenzie desired him to stop, and mid thet I would be responsible toe all consequences. The man said he hail to go with the royal mall, and no one dare stop him. Captain Mackenzie imme diately pointed a pistol at him, and said, " Move at your peril, and you area dead roan ;" upon erhioh he came off the engine, and CaaL leackenele directed the police to prevent his going away, while he ran to inform me that everything was ready, and in five minute. after Smith O'Bilen was sale, awl on his way to Dublin with thatmtne engine, there being none other hero reedy. The coeduct of the Wither in this emergency I cannot too highly recommend. (" lieu, bear," and cheers.) fled he permitted the engine to alert, and the news of the arrest to spread along the line, many line would have been lam, and I would hove been required to march with ell my troops to t)ublta as =escort, meeting oostruction at every point The proof of this may be Pound in the fact that forty men had been told off to beak up the railway, but we were too quick for them, awl the w for on towards Dublin before the certainty of Kir w an: as street was known three miles hem hews The only other ad for which I hold myself reeponsible la that of placing mob the wintery and pollee here to prevent the feet increasing from approaching the bridewell where the prthonst wm being searched and taking refreshment, and having, In my capacity of Puttee of peace for this county', read the Blot Act, and oommseded the people to disperse and retire to their houses, which they almost all did before or immediately on the arrival of troop. front camp to inform it, so that no word was heard in the streets except the low toned words of command of the °Mears to their men. 1 beg Is this note you will do me the entice to make all three circumetancee known in the proper quarter. I have not time to write in an official ehape, but you may coesufer every word I Mee said to be we I feel cones dent my conduct will meet the approbation of all well -thinking per sons, and care nothing for the misrepremotetions and thus., of the ditaflected. C. Ilea," and cheer,.) My oiwolation te. that I am satiated myself, and I know that I have loved the love of many lime by the course I pursued." ("Item, hear," and ebeem) Mr. MAHER was not satisfied with the right bon. ba ronet's explanation. He had letters in his posaession from pe - sons whose veracity he could not doubt, stating that out rages had been committed ; and on his return to Ireland he should on-Minty feel it his duty to make inquiry on the subject. Mr. F. MAU LE said that the hon. gentleman wrote him a letter from Brussels, dated the sth of August, in which be complained of the conduct of CoL Taylor, commending the sth Rest., for erecting a camp 30 yards from his house, within a mile of Thurlea, which be stated was "linee of the most peaceable places in the county ot Tipperary." (ghter.) That letter of the hon. gentleman was referred to General M'Doneld, who req •ested an explanation from Colonel Tay lor. On the 11th of August Colonel Taylor wrote this letter, which he (Mr. F. Mauls) felt bound, in justice to that gallant officer, to read to the house: ear, —I have the honour to acknowledge the letter of the Depot Adjutant -G eneral addressed to you, with its tertoted letter herewith returned, complaintng of nay having on the 314 ult., forcibly enured, and encamped on the lawn, thirty yards from the helm of Mr. Maher, M.P. foe the county Tipperary. In explanation, I beg teeth to state, that by a Meade order of the 30th ult , which reached me while under canvas at the railway station at Thurles, I was directed to mthatow towards Littleton, detaching a company of the 60th Bides to place, and to take uti such • potitioe as to enable me to hold Merles, the following day being "fair day" In that town. I tweed mooed ugly to toe aub-inspecter of police, and the demesne of Mt. Maker was pointed out to me as the mast eligible position. it being situated one mile from Thurlee, with good water, and commanding two roads from the mat and mouth. Having personally inspected the position, I moved my regiment (571 all ranks) Into a grazing field, separated Rem the lawn by a strong fence awl • belt of trees. I uthewent fur h the agent, who, upon my explaining the circumstances hc I was placed, made no objection whatever to my taking ve stment, and moreover effered me personally nocommodation in the house se well as for the haves in the smiths, the rain heuvily at the time. The first I declined Ltbe soma I secreted with thank", assuring him that the house and lawn, NI well aa the plemure grounds should be particularly guarded, and they were, most etrMtly lowing On the 2nd WM we moved to New Birmingham and the fol lowing day joined the column under your immediate diem. I trust I have punt of out that so force was used on my part. I wait to make an entrance into the field to prevent the carts from through the gates and beck premises of the house, es well as to )sure a reedy communicatton with the town ; the opening in the wall was mode in five minutes, and could be rebuilt in one hour. It Is perhaps necessary for me to add that the agent must have misrepresented the entitles of the camp. It is not in the front of the house, but on the east aide of a tieing ground from the road, hidden from the house by the belt of trees before-mentioned, the enclosure being about 50 acne, and the land not apparently very good, it being emceed with thistles and other weeds. lie had only to remark that, hon his knowledge of General M'Donald's character, he believed him incapable of carry'ng a pistol about with him for hie personal protection, or for using it in the manner described. Mr. MAHER said that the statement of Col. Taylor that the encampment was not upon his lawn was totally false. Cal. Taylor came to his house, in the absence of his agent, and pitched a camp on his lawn not thirty yards from his nouse. When hie agent arrived be asked Colonel Taylor it he had his (Mr. Maker's) leave to do so, and he (Colonel Taylor) said he had not, but that he would pitch his camp where he pleased. He was well ins formed that wanes of obscenity took place before his very door, and he, therefore, had just reason to complai n . The y went still further, and ook posselaion of his stables; and when he wrote once to have them cleared and the horses put out, the officers said they should not do so unless at the point of the bayonet. He recognised no such right as the government assumed of billetting the military upon him in that manner. [Th e hon. g entle. man, in order to entitle himself to make these remarks, had previously mo .ed (pursuant to notice) for copilot of Corres pondence between himself and the Secretary at War relative to the conduct of Gen. bi'Donald and the military under his command ; and also copies of any correspondence which may have takin place between the Secretary at War and Gen. M'Donalrelative to the conduct of Oen. M'Donald and Col. Taylo r , of the 86th. Regt., complained of by Mr. N. V. Maher.) SUGAR DUTIES RILL—SUPPLY. Lord J. RUSSELL said that, instead of taking the third reading of this hill on Monday, lie would fix it for Tuesday, at 12 o clock, and that he intended going on with the com mittee of supply until it was gone through, and then going into a committee of ways and means, when his right ton. friend would make the usual statement. DERBY WRIT. Lord J. RHSSELL asked the hon. gentleman the member for North Warwickshire to postpone his motion on this sub ject, as he (Lord J. Rueseli) would have no obj•ction to it after the raving of the Corrupt Practices at Elections Bill. Mr. NEW DEG ATE could not consent to itchy the m Don of which he had given notice any longer, '' that Mr. speaker do issue his warrant to the eliork of the crown, to make out a new writ for the electing of two ',urges:ea to serve in this present p irliament for the borough of Derby in the room of the Right Hon. E. Street and the lion. E. F. L. Gower, whose election has been determined to be • id. li did not see why Derby should bs made an exception e He implored thn government to respect their own cone 1. enemy, and not longer place the constitutional rights of the electors in doubt. Mr. SPOONER seconded the motion. Lord J. RUSSELL said it could not well be supposed be had any unfair reason fit opposing this writ. But the house having several times decided that the writ should not issue, and there being a bill before the house to institute an inquiry into the borough, it would be afterwards for the house to determine what course should be taken with regard to the writ, and he should not then oppose its issuing. lie would therefore move that this debate should be adjourned till Thuraday next. Mr. HU NIS seconded the amendment. After a discusaion In which Mr. N aWDEOAVII, BANDES, Mr BAIMIT, Mr. HENLEY, the Soeterroe-Gs- NEKAL, Sir IL INOLIS. Mr B. PALMIER, Mr. P. WOOD, and L 4,1 G. Best teen took part, The house divided—Fee L.- , amendment 86 Aeei.. it 43-42 CORRUPT PRACTICE . _ • ELECTIONS BILL. On the motion for furthr r cur xlerieg the raj ort on this bill, Sir H. HALFORD recurred tc a subject which he had mentioned a foe, days ri. , o co- neer! , with the exercise o. the patronage in the poet-office xis L#- enter. The sitting mem bers for that borough bad bees oi.ebeted on the 31st ot May ; a mouth afterwards an appointrrezt h•d to be made of a messenger to convey letters hots: rot Kebworth and Market Drayton ; and on a memoriai het sent to the postmaster, he stated that the appointment hen been placed at the dis posal of Mr. Gardner, the late member. Notwithstanding, the appointment was made, as rec4mmended "y the memo• rialists, hut the individual wee c;:erward, removed, and a mannamed Newby appointed in bLs place. On inquiry at lie poet-office, a liter was received u. ter the seal or Lord Csn riearde signed by his private te.reetary, stating that Newby had been eppointed on the recom" eadation of Mr. Gardne r. It turned out that one of Newirea mothers tied voted 11 . Mr. Gardner. Would the noble lore. (....erd J. Rumeill suffer the next election for Leicester to plate, while this corrupt party could boast that they has a. bete dispose' the govern ment patronage in the post Mime Lord J. RUSSELL said that the former answer to the question had b..en given after inn_a.'iry, the result of which svaa that the person appointed was 4. tope ctable person, and had nothing to do with p. Beim% is now, however, app ared that his brother was a freeman of ;he borough. Had Lord Clanricarde been made aware 'ha - the 'Lethal for Leicever had been rendered void by the ....Ty of the party alluded to, ho would probably not have mieught it right t s take the of Mr. P He had r -- likely not members seemed to suppers. Mr. C. LEWIS said that personal property was never of rated to the er rate. Stock in was y reign of kind of of property that was held rateab:e the i onln the reign of William 111. That decision was not generally acted on, though is some parishes he believed, particulaely in the meet of England, stock in trade was made liable to taxation. But Lord Mansfield decided that stock in trade was not rateable. Subsequently. by a decision of Lord Kenyon, it was held to be liable, but it was not generally carried into effect. In 1540 the jiriges of the Court of Queen's Bench decided that stock in trade was liable to be rated, but it was Pound im , practicable to carry tne decision into practice, and it was in consequence of that the present annual bill was brought in. He admitted there was some inconvenience in an annual bill, but he denied that the tithe-owner or the clergy were in juriously affected by the present measure. lie admitted that the rating of the clergy to the gross amount of their income war a grievance, and ought to be remedied. He should like to see some measure introduced for that purpose, but there were gr at practical difficulties in the way. Mr. NEWDEOATE complained that the whole tendency of their recent legislation was to give advantage to the moneyed interest, to the detriment of the owners of real pro- Mr. BROTHERTON said that he was opposed to a sys tem of general taxation in lieu of local taxation. He thought it would g ve rise to great mischief. The bill was then read a third time. RENEWABLE LEASEHOLD CONVERSION (IRE- The . house then went into committee on this bill. On clause 5, Mr. LAW objected to the power given by the clause to the Chief Remembrancer of Ireland to convert into free hold renewable leasehold lands, held of minor's, lunatics, die. Mr. NAPIER proposed to substitute the Court of Ex chequer for the COie( Remembrancer. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he would consider the point, ' and introduce words, on bringing up the report, to meet the hon. gentleman's views, should he on reflection deem this necessary. Mr. LAW said he must have a distinct assurance that the Chief Remembraneer should in this jurisdiction be subject to the Ceurt of Exchequer. Ultimately the clause was agreed to, as were clauses 6,7, and 8. The rIiAttIMAN then reported progress, and obtained leave to sit (gain this day. The holies adjourned at 3 o'clock until 6. The house resumed at 6 o'clock. IRELAND. Mr. N. V. MAHER inquired whether the Secretary of State for the Home Department had received any informs tion respecting the misconduct of Oen. M'Donald and the military under hie command, in reference to outrages said to have been committed by him and them on the in habitants of Tipperary ? Assuming that those allegations were true, he wished to know, if the outraged individualssought re drew by legal mane, whether the government in tended to obstruct their legal rights, by bringing in a bill of indemnity ? Sir G. GREY said that her Majesty's government had received no information of any outrages having been corn ' witted by Gen. M.Donald or the military under his coin• mend, on the persons or property of any of the inhabitants of Tipperary. Ile would read to the house a portion of a homes might swallow the statemett of the noble kird, but he meld not do so. (_Laughter.) Sir C. BURRELL hoped that mos explanation would be given with reopen to the pamotsge of the Post-office. In the hormagh which he represented he always deferred to the wishes of the inhabitants with rthpect to the appointments to the Poshoffice, without men to the politics of indivi duals. Jut on a late oeseenn a ninon who was but little known In the town had been pop:bind to a situation, as he b elieved against the wishes of U. robabitants generally. Mr. I ? . DRUMMOND said t. :ad a grievanee, too, of the same nature. (Hear, hear.) ne was assnto write • letter to the Postmaster-General, co nies se did act of charity, but he did net think he had any ...won to complain because the noble lord attended to the recommendation of the hon. I Manlier opposite (Mr. Mangle%) it: preference to hie, par ecularly as he had no acquaintar_z with Lord Clanricarde. Mr. MULLINOS said that .n•-.thing had also occurred in his borough. (Laughter.) cif. individual named Hall I had been distributor of stamps In tlireniester for lb years, during the last 10 A which a Mr. 3aillie acted under him ss agent. Mr. Hall having given ur the situation, Mr. Baillie applied to him to recommend hire% the situation. lie had use so,la but he heard with in.-Jena that the office had bow a p p la u d at the diseoesl of Mr. Newmersh, the spot for Mr. Powonby, his ....ppstent at the last election. Mr. TUFNELL said that um were candidates named ID him for the appointment to wmich the hon. baronet the Member for Shoreham refe.ted, eatii he wait compelled to disoblige several political friends the selection of one. lie siuseld be sorry if that selectioe v:a not in consonance with the feelings of the inhabitant? If 7,-9 borough. With regard to those minor appointments, he great difficulty in get tied respectable persons to fin Ltm ; and in making a se , laden he had Wit h e into zoneideration the fitness of 1 the individual. regard to toe Me mentioned by the hon. member for Cirencester, he was not aware that Mr. Beae had virtually filled the ofs am for some time. But the bon. gentleman was in error in er •eposing that solicitors were not qualified to fill the office cf c1..-tributor of stamps. With regard to the fitness of perecaa, governinent must depend upon the recommendatiaea of nosing living in the neigh bourhood ; but the treuur; wOu-i attend to the representa tions of the inhabitants if en unfit eerson were appointed. Mr. NEWDEGATE said tnat a the hon. gentleman found such difficulty in finding re:; - ..s.;ta . .iti persons, he, as whipper in on that side of the house, mete ; be happy to tender him his services, and would underrate to find him respectable individuals. (" Hear, hear," laughter.) Sir 11. HALFORD said that complaint in the cave of Leicester was, that Mr. Gerdner, who was not connected with the borough or county, shc....eS have the nomination. After a few words from Mr. the amendments , were agreed to. Clauses enabling the Treasury to make orders for the ex pease' of inquiries, the Speaker t appoint an egent or agents to prosecute, and regulating toe er-noiutreent of commission ers in Scotland, were then ureter to. DIPLOMATIC RELATIRCISONS WITH THE COURT OF T- Lord PALMERSTON, ii. r sing to move the second reading of this bill, said it was is , ; his intention to enter into any historical details, or to intro::: for any length of time on the attention of the house. In i,lnt of tact, the grounds for this bill, or rather for deelaricz s tat the law was, were so plain and simple, and lay so enn. - cly on the surface, that it was scarcely requisite for him to save rec Nurse to any refined arguments for the purposee of , ::wing the expediency of sue" a measure. Doubts, an.? doobts only, existed whether by the interpretati ex which win to be put on particular words in ancient acts of parliemsett, it was or was not lawful fur the sovereign of this country to hold diplomatic inter course with the court of Rome. lie believed the chief doubt arose on the construction and interpretation of the word "communion." In his mind, the only meaning of the law for preventing the severer ens of this country from holding communion with the c cart of Rome must have been to secure tht white_ was a fundamental principle of the co s nstitetioo—nsmely, that the sove reign of this country must be a protestant, and therefore that the " communion" contemplther by the act must have been a spiritual communion, and nee, which, in common and 'thine parlance, meant an ezeheege of communication. But, he that as it may, it was deemed expedient, as doubts had arisen, to propose to parliament n measure to remove those doubts, by declaring it to be lawful to hold diplomatic intercourse or 0001021111".74130a: between the sovereign of this country and the a iareiga of the Roman States. Two question, arose upon this—first, as to the objections that could us =zed against such a mea sure: and, secondly, as to the advantages which would accrue from it. The only object:on that presented itself to his mind as being capable of Leif 3 urged against it was that which was based on the principle to which he had already ad verteil—an objection, namely, (tended on the presumption that to legalise diplomatic interts , ane between the sovereign of England and the soverierm et the Roman states would endanger that principle which nouiresi the sovereign to be of the protestant religion. 11..2 seas at a loss to imagine how any rational man couid ',wens. that there would be any thing in the presence of a Brit.::: minister at Rome, or of a Roman minister at London, hat could tend to shake the religious belief of the soaereign of this country. That was in his opinion too tidioilous and absurd a supp et tion to require the slighted summon% to refute it. Diplo matic relations were not in ae r-ty connected with matters of faith. The sovereign of this csontry bad diplomatic rela tions with Mohammedan courts, and with courts of every 1 form of belief except with that or:Ack ri presented the Roman catholic modification of the Christian religion ; but no person believed that the sovereign was :Only to become a Moham I maim in consequence of holding diplomatic r lations with Mohammedan court. V. ell, then, the question was whether any advantage would as we to this country if diplo midi° relations were established with the court of Rome. 1 The mine probasedi lay or reason who denied that there would, because there was no reseon why the Roman state should form an exception to the ,ieneral rule. That was na turally offensive to the state, wl'tch was made an exception of, and, unless it was founded ez some real and substantial grounds, it must prove injorioue 'to the interests of this coun try. The Roman state,: no doLtit, was not one of the first class of foreign powers, but, nevertheless, it was by no means to be deemed inconsiderable. it mas • state with which they might have, in various cases, political interests to connect them, and one with which, at ill times, they held commer cial intercourse, not to such sn extent as with other state', but one, however, that was annually increasing. At present the sovereign of this country could make no commercial treaty with the suite of Rome, for the purpose of affording to their commerce Cease securities which such treaties gave to their come:ler:a with almost every other country in Europe. They lied a great interest in a rapid communication with their West Indian dominions; but if a railway was made through 1t..1y in connexion with the Rhine, Germany, and France, which he had no reason to doubt would sooner or Is.ter nee place, they could not, in the pretest state of their relatiens with the court of Rome, conclude any convention for tb, purpose of regulating and legalising the transit of the mails from India. For these matins being at a lose to fled any grount.s in the present state o f opinion in Europa artiert the passing of this bill, not being able to find any conatitzei ,nil objections against it, or any danger to arise it carried Min a law ; and because on the other hand, he believed thet the not holding of po litical communication with the Boman court was attended with injury to the commercial and other interests of this country, he begged leave to propose the second reading of the bill. Mr. ANSTEY opposed the bill; and after referriCg at some length to the tate of the law, as tending to show the illegality of the bill, concluded by moving that the bill be rest: a second timt that day six month.. Mr. URQUHART seconded the amendment, contending that all th. legitimate object. of the English p ople with the Court of Rome could be obtained far more effectually in the entire absence of what were called diplomatic relations. He called upon the ihmse by . its vote on this occasion to refuse to revolve the Pope in the baneful contamination of European diplomacy, and bring him down to the mere level of European eovernments. Sr , R. INGLIS supported the amendment. For his (Sir R. Duthie) part, he looked upon the measure as the first direct step towards the reconciliation of this country, not simply with the court, but with the church of Rome. The I noble lord appeared to think that there was nothing reenlist our law to prevent diplomatic relations with the ourt of Rome ; but this w a mistake. Pope Gregory XV 1., in a conversation with Bishop Wieeman— Mr. ANSI EY,—Bienop Wiseman! Sir R. INGLIS had no objection to call Dr. Wiseman Bishop Wiseman—(hear, hear)—all he protested against was Dr. Wiseman's calling himself, or seeking to be called, Archbishop of Westminster. However, Pope Gregory XVI., at this interview, had distinctly admitted that there did exist in England a law which precluded any diplomatic tele tione with him as the spiritual I ontiff of Rome. The hon. baronet denounced the measure further, as an attempt by ex post facto legislation to cover the illegal and iniquitous interference in the affairs of Italy, which Lord Minns had been emp eyed as the agent of. He desired to know from the noble lord whether there would be any objection to lay on the table of the house the correspondence between Lord Clarendon and Lord Grey, upon which the latter had issued his famous circular, giving to Roman cetholic prelates titles to which no law entitled them in this country, and also the correspondence in which Lord Clarendon, through Arch bishop Murrav„ officially communicated the statutes for the new colleges to the Pope ? (Hear, hear.) The hon. baronet concluded by expressing his determination to vote against the bill. Mr. MOORE (who rose at the tame time with Lord J. Russell) said be would only detain the house from hearing the notte lord whilst he made an observation on the speech of the hon. and learned member for Youghal. That hon. and learned gentleman had described the present diplo matic intercourse between Great Britain and the court of Rome to he a mean and unworthy subterfuge as well as an evasion of the law; and now that the noble lord had introduced a bill for the purpose of rendering such an unworthy and derogatory mode of intercourse no longer ne cessary, the hon. and learned memier was one of the fore most in that house in coming forward to oppose it. He should certainly adopt the original views expressed by the hon. member as to the present mode of communicating with the court of Rome, and for that reason he should feel it to be his duty to support the bill now before the house. (Hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL said that the hon. member who had just sat down had effectually disposed of the whole argu ments used by the hon. and learned member for Youghal, and rendered all further observation upon them .. re - commendation of Mr. Gardr.:r. .isi . .. most _ .iy a. . .. _ _._. .... _ been aware that Mr. Gardner ha /teen unseated. He err sary. As the him hon. bart. shoul (Sir endeavour tois;had— answer them asked - seVeral Minty never meant to place the r"ifis at the disposal of Mr. questions of he d Gardner, but had merely conseiiaad to rec. ive his recorn- in the best way he could. His honourable friend m endation of a fts p e ctahle ream. If the h oi. member (Sir R . Inglis) was not satis fi ed with the reasons opposite meant that the Yostinaste - .General was only to take alleged in favour of the bill, nor yet was he disposed to agree the recommendation of his tr:!itsl enemies, that would be in the objections taken to it by the hon. and learned member going rather too far. (Hear.) 1.-... - 1 was ontivinced th,t L rd opposite. On that account he had proceeded to detail to the Clanriearde and the Poetadfles au. oorities had cot token the house the objections which he entertained to the measure ; recommendation in this ca... 01.:‘ 4: any wish to strengthen and s first he had cited as a reason w hethe bill should proceed the psrty setich had been d uil - .7 ^- nrinery in I.,icrster. urther the existence of a t prohibiting all inter , ' Col. SIB ruottr BAlll that t:, other numbers of that cours. between the sovereign of Great Britain and the toys. IMPEKIAL P. HOUSE OF LORDS.,—TutruDAY, Aix). 17. The LOUD Cganotrzon took kis seat at 6 o'clock. PRIVATE BURIN ' , THIRD READINGS.—Duades and Dundee and Arbroath Railway; Ciertenwell Improvement; RUle. PUBLIC BUSINESS. SECOND READINGS. —lvisherire (Ireland); Insolvent Debtors' Omit; Money Onler Determent (Post-015w); Registers of &wines (Sootiand) ; Court of Jus t r 7 (Scotland); Turnpike Acts Camino. once; Poor Low Union Charges ; Poor Law Union District Schools ; THIRD READlNOS.—Proolamarleris on Fines (Court of Common Plata) ; Churches ; Tonopah. Roads (Irobsd); nWabulary Force (Ireland) ; Bills. PETITIONS. —By Lord REDESDALE, ham Lyme Regis, agshist soy alteration of the 'sorb/atlas laws.—Lord casteneu sub , iect of froos seve ral places in Scotland, having 7,713 signature., on the tabu for free churches. ALLEGED FELONY BY A SERVANT. Lord BROUGHAM- moved for a return of the examina tion bolero tne Rev. Mr. Hawklcs of a gentleman of the name of Williams, who had prosecuted his cook for giving broken meat to a beggar , who had also been prosecuted by the same person ns a receiver of stolen goods. Ordered. POOR LAW UNION CHARGES (No. 2) BILL. POOR LAW UNION DISTRICT SCHOOLS BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the second read ing of these bills, and briefly explained their objects. Alter a short discussion the bills were read a second time. FISHERIES (IRELAND) BILL. The Marquis of CLAN RICARDE moved the second read ing of this bill. The value by Irish salmon fisheries were very the portant, and would be greatly increased in passing of this biU, the object of which was to afford them greater protection. The proposition of voluntary assignment had altogether failed, and it was therefore necessary for the government to take up the question. The fisheries belonged for the mist part to the public, and not to individuals; and as everybody's business was nobody's busi- DM it had become necessary that the g overnment should' interfere for their protection. The commissioners of public works in Irelsnd were to be made commissioners under this act, and it was proposed to add to the board two inspectors of fisheries in Ireland, to be paid, not out of the Exchequer, but out of the funds to he levied under the act. Ireland was to be divided into fishery districts; conservators would be elected in those districts; and the funds to provide for the machinery of the bill would be raised by obliging persons who take fish to obtain a licence. It was not intended to interfere with the principle of parties concerned regulating their own affairs, but it was impossible to oblige them to do so if certain powers were not given to the commiesioners and the government. Lord MONTEAGLE objected to the bill as an unjust interference with the rights of the proprietors of fisheries, and was surprised that the noble marquis should prase it for ward at so late a period of the session. The whole machinery of the bill was most objectionable. The Earl of OLENOALL, having been present at meet ins in Ireland where all the owners of large fisheries in the meet north of le e elend had mumbled, wu enabled to assert that they gave their assent to this bill. (Hear.) The Marquis of CLANRICARDE, said he was quite ready to leave the measure fur the consideration of the people of Irel tad. The bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Thursday next. Their lordships adjourned at half-put 7 o'clock. HOUSE OF (X)MMONS.—THURSDAY, Au°. 17. 111. BTEAsna took the chair at 12 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. LORDS' AMENDMENTSSONSIDERE.D.--Pnieley, Barthead, and Iluriet Its'lsay Bill. THIRD READINGS.—EarI of Shefimhr. Eetate ; Marquis of Bute's Estate ; Marquis of Londooderry's Estate (Nos. 1 and 2) ; Weld Blundell's Estate ; Bills. PUBLIC BUSINESS. SECOND READINGS. —Vevey (Ireland) ; Transfer of Landed Pro perty (Ireland) ; Unlawful Oothe (Ireland) ; Bills. COMMITTEES—Commons Indowthe (No. 2) ; Controverted Elec tions ; Renewable Leasehold Conversion (Ireland) ; Nuisances and Contagion. Dimmers ; Wove Trade ; Itoolesastiod Patronage Suits Diwthrothite (Ireland); labouring Poor (Irelandj ; Commove' closure Act Amendment ; WI& THIRD READlNGS.—Parochial Debt and Audit; Poor Removal (No. 2); Bills REPORTS. —Petty Bag, An, Mom ; Metropolitan Commisaioners of :ewers; Bills. PETITION —By Mr. BRIGHT, ham Newcastle-upon-Tyne, against the Regiard D wura ' NOTICE OP MOTION.-701MON Potter.—Sir I. WALSH, to =Wow (this day), on question of going into committee of supply, to ask for further explanation respecting British intervention in the affairs of Naples. PAISLEY, BARRI:LEAD, AND HURLEY RAILWAY. On the consideration of the Lords' amendments to this bill, Mr. F. MAULE moved as an amendment upon these amendments the insertion of the words " on payment of such reasonable tol:s." lie proposed this amendment in coasequence of an arrangement, as the forms of the house did not allow a money clause to be moved in the House of Lords. Mr. H. BERKELEY opposed the motion, which after a short discusssiou was agreed to. STOCK IN TRADE EXEMPTION BILL. On the motion for the third reading of this bill, Sir R. INGLIS objected to the bill on the ground that though purporting to suspend the law for a year only, it did really and permanently alter the law without any nista.- lion. He was not going to say that stock in tirade ought or ought not to be rated; but the judges of the land decided that it wee liable to be rated. He was aware of the dim- I cultism' which stood in the way of carrying out that prin. ciple; but he believed that the machinery of the property tax mould enable them to get rid of the dif iculties. lie hoped that the whole subject of rating would be taken into consideration next session. Ile thought that no species of property mould be exempt from taxation, particularly by means of a temporary suspension of the law. The effect of this measure was to throw a greater amount of taxation on the land and agricultural produce, and thereby to injure the dei. If the right hon. gentleman did not promise th , :t he would bring the subject forward next session, he would make 1 a eubstantive rocoion upon it himself. Sir 0 GREY said that the subject of the valuation of pr:- perty with regard to assessment, and the question of rating, was one which deserved careful consideration, with a view to removing the anomalies which he admitted existed at pre sent. But the present bill did not affect the property of the clergy to the extent stated by his hon. friend. Ile thought that the whole question shoald be considered, but he could not undertake to say he would be able to prepare a measure during the recess, which was likely to be a short one. Mr. GLADSTONE did not think there could be any doubt that the hill injuriously a ff ected the tithe owner. Mr. NAPIER said that there could be little doubt of the evil snit affected the tithe owners, and, therefore, it was the duty of parliament to apply a remedy. M BANK ES did not think there was any doubt with re- gard r. to the law affecting stock in trade till thi. house passed this annual bill. There could be as little doubt that the ex ' emption of stock in trade from rating affected all other kinds of property, and therefore the property of the clergy. It was the duty of the government to find a remedy for this in- justice. Mr. MUNTZ could not deny that there wee a great hard ship in the cue of the clergy, but there were great hardships in other cues. What could be a greater ht.rdship than to assess fixed machinery, which perhaps might not be used at all, or realised no property ? (lieu.) What greater injustice could there be than to exempt the moneyed interest? (Hear hear.) In his opiaion nothing but • national tax would make the rating fair and equitatle. (Hear.) Mr. HENLEY believed that the taxing of stock in trade would not confer so much benefit on the clergy at some bon. reign of the Roman states. Now he needed hardly to re mind his hon. friend that grave doubts eared in the minds of many persona as to the meaning of the words of that sta tt.hueatee courtmea ni ng o f u p r o hibit s theo smt statute e i t e n t a n w r wi har t se o er bet we en cat • 1 ieg t hi sr‘ O • h coun t r y a amu nd n e t o p w h i . th r t t h h e e church words of Rome, o n m o e t , b auo ut as ini th p e i r y e a ex p ist roh ed o, a itit o n u t dli k t a w t when Queen of England should I ave any relations at all with the court of Rome without parliamentary sanction, it was for the express purpose of doingaway with that difficulty that the go- vernment bad brought in the present bill. The hon. baronet chialdiaametionrtedwitthhatht th e e e p h re: e n h t w or Ro the r. fi e r atstepNow, o. tow i n e r c ds oncil a reciatoionn and communion might be taken to mean the same thing. Reconciliation might imply that sort of communion with the church of Rome which Queen Mary effected, and which ni in i o t his point• But t o o f e Yi ffe e c w t g r u eco e h n c a r.wit d i a lii io natgn es ic' j'inetaitamttwi;millaneapttedwhnietath,:wß°masPieamitenasetdhae—imelQinresmud"ennt Mdalyryqueiffteecotuetdo'fandKing question. (Hear.) There wasnot the slightest danger that such an event would ever happen. Nor was parliament called upon to take precautions against what was neat to an impossibility to But the hon. baronet, taking advantage of ti e ambiguity of I this phrase, founded an argument upon it —namel y , that the bill Of , cted a reconciliation with the Court of Rome, and that reconciliation meant the communion of this protestant state with the church of Rome. Now the only question be fore the house was, whether, there no longer beng erg et those dargers which were guarded against by our ancestors in the statutes of William and Mary, the prohibitions placed by existing laws against all diplomatic intercourse with the church of Rome should be abolished ? The honour able baronet bad stated that he entertained no ob jection to the present mode of communic.eing with the Court of Rome by means of an attaché from Florence, but he feels a repugnance to enabling the Queen to sanction that inter course outer her royal signature. It was the appearance, and not the fact, that he objected to. (Hear.) But was it not far more conformable to propriety and to dignity to place the diplomatic intercourse of the Sovereign with the court of Rome upon a broad and recognised footing, than to resort to such unworthy subterfuges? (Hear, hear.) The Chevalier Bunsen hoot teen alluded to by the hon. baronet; but that gentleman , protestant as he was, had acted as minister at Rome, Lad drawn up regula tions fur the conduct of the Roman States, which could not bo referred to the British diplomatic agent resident there, because that gentleman was afraid to avow that he was residing at Rome in any such capacity. What did the hon. baronet or his cause gain by thus playing at hide and se , k ? The hon. baronet had declared he should have no objection to sanction diplomatic relations with Rome, pro- Titled there was a dictator or a consul established in that city. It was smiewhat alarming to hear the bon. baronet tale in this manner. The ancient dictators and consul, of Rome could not be •ed or rise again. And if the wicts unship of Rienzi or of that clans of tribunes was contemplated by his hon. friend, it was evident he must belong to some of the societies of Carbonari, who were associated for the pur pose of upsetting the Pope. (Hear, and a laugh.) But his hon. friend's objections wool', if examined, be I nod not to steno upon any solid foundation. lie seemed to apprehend the bill would tend to el er the protestant character of the state. He ought not to stand upon any such ar tificial or conventional grounds. Protestantism, he could venture to assure his hon. friend, did not stand on such a fragile pedestal. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) Tne hon. baronet had put one or two questions to him which he would endeavour to answer. As to the nomination of an archbishop fee England, he did not 'mow whether the Pope meant to ask him for his consent that one or more archbishops should be appoihted by him to English Roman catholic sees : but he only knew that he would not give his consent if he should be %eked. The question of spiritual authority was one over which no government could exercise any control. It was impossible to fetter the Pope's influence in that respect so tar as people's minds were concerned, nor could any law that the hon. baronet might have the ingenuity to frame prevent such spiritual influence from being eaercio d over those who acknowledged the Pope's authority. (Heir, hear.) Nor could any legal means be devised for preventing the Pope from communicating with the people of England, so long as they wi re Roman catholic and acknowledged him as the head of their church. With respect to the letter addressed by the Earl of Clarendon to Earl Grey, he did not think it was an official letter. Lord Clarendon expressed his views in a private communication to Earl Grey, and upon that his noble friend wrote the circular teferrtd to. With respect also to the communication ot his noble friend to Archbishop Murray, that also was a private letter, the substaoce of which he would •inform the hon. baronet. The letter expressed a hope that Archbishop Murray, in taking into consideration the amendments bed alterations intro duced into the statutes regulating the Irish colleges would find that they dispelled the suspicions expressed by the Roman catholic clergy and laity that the colleges were marked by an irreligious character. The Pope having written to Ireland respecting these colleges, the object of the letter of his noble friend was to induce those parties in Ire land to withdraw the censures they had pronounced, if they saw cause to believe that the colleges were not taiuted with an irreligious character. He (Lord J. Russell) supposed that the bon. baronet would not say that his noble friend had I done wrong in writing such a letter; for he (Sir R. Inglis) was one ot the first in that house to cry out against the col leges, and to stigmatise them as being a "gigantic scheme of godless education." Therefore he must be considered to have the same objection to these colleges being viewed as irreligious establishments as his noble friend had . Was the. Earl of Clarendon therefore to blame, con sidering the censure and obloquy thrown upon the Irish colleges by the hon. baronet and the Roman catholic bishops, in endeavouring to allay his and their apprehensions, and in using his utmost exertions to render these colleges useful to persons of every religious denomination? Indeed be hardly knew what oh set the hon. baronet was seeking to attain ; but it was remarkable that when the bill for enabling the Jews to sit in that house was under considera ion, he was banded together with the Roman cathol c, presbyttrians, and others, in order to defeat it; and now that the Jewish Emancipation Bill was got rid of, the religions distinctions and differences between the hon. baronet and his quondam allies revived in all their vigour. (" Hear," and a laugh.) All the government sought to effect by me OM aof the bill before the house was, to put an end to a system of subterfuge and de ceit, and to render the law and the fact uniform by legalising diplomatic intercourse between the two sovereigns of Eng land and Rome. He hoped the house would see no objec tion to pus a bill which effected this object. It was true that the measure had been agreed to some months since by the House of Lords, and that, in the interval between that I and the present time, events bad occurred which had shaken the temporal authority of the Pope ; but he hoped that par liament would cot place the government in a position by which the itoman sovereign would be given to understand that now his temporal power was diminished England no longer desired to enter into any diplomatic relations with him, or to recognise publicly his existence as a sovereign prince. For all the reasons he had stated he hoped the house would see the propriety of agreeing to pare the bi,l. Mr. LAW opposed the bill, and denied that its preamble was founded on fact. There could be no distinction made between the temporal and spiritual character of the Pope, when tne question of political relations with him was the matter under consideration. The Pope's sovereignty was entirely incidental to his religious position, and therefore it war a mere unworthy play upon words to make a distirictiou between the sovereign ana the pontiff. (Hear, hear.) The settlement oy which the house of Hanover held the British throne furbade any relations or communications with the me of Rome ; and therefore it was insincere and legally untrue to state that any doubts existed on the subji.ct. lie thought the country had much reason to c mplain or the manner in which Lord Mints had been empowered to negotiate with the Pope, and the present position of that prince rendered it peculiarly inconvenient that we should have any relation.: with ti h nioitoist im h . u. ' co fh r e d r i e 4 w su m pp n o o r f t outi ( d a rion .) tor the statement in the I preamble of the bill, to the effect that doubts existed as to the admissibility of diplomatic relations with Rome. There wog no doubt, nor was the holding of such relations admissible by law. Mr. H. DRUMMOND did not believe th at this bill had y been prop ose d a rut lopcdnirionthbp produce o f; i t s d u.)::;ph u s aeuandnbaljeldyemdl reconciliationtb eut e nwhh i t e a ga,htl n m ie s :b erhph o ohete f hd t e goh n h mie a tduito i t h l d‘in ite i ie !g poncry: h eador neiimtcratthviheiMfeoetodiaf common intended ot he t uai rule o g is.. power. meansc incooyh Ca t eg o t oi l 1 7 rt e d: suppor tc e landestinely, governmentr h se k o i j u t ' u a l l Mr. NAPIER said that the question for the house to con• eider was whether the real intention of government was to rale her Majesty's subjects indirectly through the Pope ; and he was prepared to prove that such was actually their o b ject. Lord Somers had distinctly shown that if they recogi iced the superiority oi the court of Rome over the tight raft power u sy r s 'h te e m e4 w7ri l c i h tu w " o n uld oi cto n tr gl a an ct d ie th e elayw w o u l d d ▪ th b i: counts ro d 6, n a g ud a THERE is at least one subject of congratuladoe LONDON, FIiIDAY, AUG.IB. which would not be amenable to them. The protestants of • • the empire did not want to curtail the civil rights of the Eta is that there is nothing the Drown' state of our connexion with Spain; thi l wan carholics, but they felt that this measure would inflame to cause the French tu t i o nte gi r v te e re l' i m o b t rag hat e l oo t to i on s F a tr y fal ; ol discord, excite suspicion, and promote intrigue. He had no to excite rivalry or efforts on their part. hesitation in saying that if they were not able sent of such very great importance tows-1..8 the msi .o govern Ireland without such a measure, tbe had no right to hold Inland in connexion wit h • • •of difference, should exist te this country. In fact they were bound by the Act of Settle least no trntating cause al or etc meat to exclude the supremacy of the Pope directly and indi- tween France ~8 e _ med i a e redly from them realms, and were responsible for doing SO pension, or oblivion of the Spanish sore n h o o t n on g l e y nu to emo the n h a a ti v o in n g b re ut fe to ned the t w o h th o e le m ci i v n i to lised mi w ssi o o rr u . Tote. te fo n rt a una nce te o: the apendaceEnogf land, thatth t a h t e co n fid e nce , ova proof, quoted a speech of the noble lord the member fo r London as another proof that the authors of this measure intended "to govern Ireland through Rome." (An hon. iberal and independent conduct, which excitaS member: " You might as well quote Baron Munchausen.") pettish rancour of the present mititerY c lue! °`. end isnathenetutnhanatismioruns.uvetrdL \i‘ctEßowf asthbelampuehlless.ie f Lind RUSSELL: I never mid any such thing. (Hear.) Spain. Such a verdict of acquittal is, Mr. NAPI ER then adverted to the preamble of th e and has than is due to the British representative. asserted that it was not legal for the British goveinment to • his nand tlrf merits a much higher appreciation of deal with the Pope of Rome as head of the Roman catholic church, or to have any diplomatic relations whatever with ' the adnission that his constant and honouring • tiocal Fr' • him. How was it that ecclesiastics were objected to as am- commen d ation of li beral and consutu to h wever unwelcome. humidors from Rome to this country ? Why, simp 'y because ciplee of government was o h b e . the measure was looked upon with suspicion, and Justly so. General NARVAEZ, the true policy not only Ior• fhb (Hear, hear.) Did the house imagine the Pope would de- Wet ml statesman, but fora British represent* prive himself of the jurisdiction or the power with which he wee invested as head of the Roman catholic church ? or was complaint of r.H. A M B ILLIE was that our 011° ' , • a l tithe' it that her Majesty's ministers expected at some future period in Spain did not ally with the parties the blessings oi his Holiness to enable them to carry the greater or less aris.ocracy and of t h e c out their measures ? (" Oh, oh," and general confusion.) stead of which he adopted the desires • of the 21144g ,k,' Yes, he would repeat it,—do not the supporters of the bill which will thus rend r them m re p ilstable in Ireland j i tter fool , '" however, He the professional, and the civic clam. Tam anticipate the Pope's benediction upon their vas—((aughter) the nation, and Ow arsi " 3rif bulk of 1 (Cries of " Divide," order," and ironical cheers, amidst Bupporten of Spanish independence which the hon. and learned gentleman resumed his seat.) tutional government. The Carlists arc tre y r iliar bi . r u . pr ß te. PALMER tod t. bL7I4 carried. m disapproved butte asoug o the fthh t n haste as tf ottre:w ithconvent eh w o. h i o i e c which the a but it would ' on impossible and against a°f coo r o ' : taoscmsouni cite measure in its present shape, mains they were prepared also • energetic, snnY pett y, t o , to alter the whole constraction and beads of the British con- ties and functionanes , 8 PP. . sat the i r own stitution, a nd adopt in its stead the principles d nosnd officered completely of the Roman catholic munch, .te:ltacetlleircoPmrtptrect ipa°7ts:,rncou :jot; Whe in tlaemidst.of European resolutiOe the I,', the hon, me r"i 11,11„:,.... „ Lt nwhitochT"ehe ianchn7w6—tie4l""anT Mr. W. PAGAN said, ae a Roman catholic d snit b t h u e t e asserttz evesst h up at o t the Roman tra: s econ d nanic amendment clause dolmi ce nint was tohi a . Youghal. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL supported the principle andbill, express e d ofd thheis.cLetnedrmcliant.atio, f most objectionable. Mr. W. GLADSTONE amid it was unfortunate the hone should, at that period of the session, be called 01 1 tO prop. on • question of such great importance. It was oil rtatuy that it should be brought under their consideration:t a Day like this, when the political tate of Italy w as such that few months • measure of that description would prove tow; witless. It was much to be regretted that the -:: should have thought it their duty to persevere with t h e sure, and not postpone it until next session, when • aJ., receive proper consideration. Ile did not, horsey: thi nk that it was so much in contravention of the proonnies of the British constitution as it was said. It should ee7 o collected that for more than one hundred year, after reformation, the Pope was actually in arm s aglow this " country, contemplating by force of arms the recovery of allegiance to Rome. That was an historical fact. Dipl en n e, ti relations of all kinds were then of course dismatLeoi but that was no reason why they should cmse asti r causes had been discontinued. Sinew then we hays ." h a d agents residing in Rome, and through those agents we bas communicated with the Pope. The re wee, therefore, 1 04 : thing unbeconain the character of Englishmen, for tapdaa and frankness, to object now to any diplomatic Mae.' whatever with Rome. The real object of the meant a a - „,7 at all events be understood and thoroughly discusse:,a - Z, was the duty of the house not only to du so, but to is pearances conform to the reality, and prof. assort to do Zi intentions of the framers of the measure. (Hear, he w ) If it was admitted teat these hod been legirlatem whist an , cessitated that communication with the Roman authoritieeth a use of the bill was proved. It that communicition task place, it was necessary it should be with the I'ope, an d n 4 with any secondary power. And if such communication ea made to the Pope, it was desirable that it .hould be y direct and avowed character. He knew there were did culties in Ireland which somewhat changed the charaej a the bill with respect to that country; but if Roman eau. influence tended to suppress diseff e'toll there he wood give it a welcome, although he regretted the recomity net of which it arose. Mr. NEWDECIATZ said that after the light which the d o bate had thrownupon the measure before the house, he mote than ever felt (this duty to vote against the first step propped in it, which was to call iota) this country an envoy who, h was persuaded, would never act under the power of h a Majesty without seeking means to destroy it. The mans. nication which hail taken place hi tween Lord Clems on and Rome had been frequently alluded to. He mama that his lordship was •.blieed to take such a step, and lusia taken it he wished he bad concealed his shame. He mall most decidedly vote against the measure. The Berl of ARUNDEL and SCRREY said he wail vote for the second reading of the bill, and in commies, would move fen the omission of the second clause. Mr. OOULBURN said it was impossible to haw listened to the debate, and heard the yam of the noble lord (J. Russell), stating what lu lion. member) believed to be the fact, that them wee other important considerations ler the adoption et aq measure, without seeing that at the late period of the sion, when there was but • limited ettmelance of when the w a strong feeling against the mea l rat when it was thought to affect the constitutional priaak of the country, the bill ought not to pas:. Therefore, with. out considering the principle of whether it wee bstterte plus on a sounder footing the ref tions between Rome and this country, he should on that occasion vote against the bit Sir W. VERNER said the member for the tniturkM I)ublin had been twitted for milling theprotestaaaof feeLd loyal. The hon. member appealed to the state of the can. try as a proof of the fact, and stated that there were LOW 11 Ireland ten regiments of cavalry and 38 of infantry, anu those only two regimenta were stationed in the proviale Ulster. Mr. M. J. O'CosioeLt explained. The house then divided. For the second reading Against it The bill was then read a second time, and Vas committee was fixed for Wednenday. PAROCHIAL DEBT AND AUDIT BILL On the third rending of this bill, Mr. C. BULLER proposed so alteration in one of the clauses, requiring notice to be served on individuals been they were surcharged by the auditor. Cept. PECUELL complained that sufficient expiasigim was not given of the proposed alteration. Mr. HULLER stated the substance of its provision; sal the bin, as amended, wee read a third time and passed. NUISANCES AND CONTAGIOUS DISEASES BILL. Viscount MORPETII moved that this bill should be committed pro forma, with a view to certain altermitea being introduced, and the bill being reprinted. Alter • few words from Mr. Henley, Mr. Monsen, 8.1 W. Somerville, and Col. Dunne, the bill passed through committee pro forma, and was ordered to be recommitted on Monday. " SLAVE TRADE. The house then went into committee on this subject, sad the usual resolations were proposed giving • bounty et k per head for every slave seised on board any Reinert foreign veuel, under the treaty signed on the sth 0ct.,1541. Meares, to obi& Alter one or two questions from Mr. A Lord Peometterow briefly replied, the resolutions wee agreed to. The house then adjourned at half-past one o'clock. ELECTION COMIIITTEES.—TESTERDAP. numAN.—The committee were occupied in bearing evidence deprecatory of the vaiue of Mr. Reynolds's gad. cation CHELVENIIAM.—The case for the petition closed with the examination of a man who had formerly kept a public-house in Cheltenham, and who had at the election of 1847 supplied Mr. Berkeley's voters with refreshments to the ►mount of 417., for which he had not bren paid. Be hid since been Gffered 201. to abstain from obeying the Speakeii warrant, but had refused. HORSHAM. —Witnesses were examined u to Ms bribery and treating chiefly traceable to Mr. Psdwick. hit person's agency wits denied, but the committee decided that prima facie it had been proved. the erpreso. MAILS. The mails for British North America, and the United 3Wei will be made up this evening of the Aug. The overland mails lot Gibraltar , Malta , Greece, the lonian Bash Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, India, Hong-Kong, and China, eie SoadmoP ton, will be made up on the evening 01 the 19th August The overland closed mails, Morseillei, to the MeditemaNsi Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, India, llong-Kong, atc., will to made to cede everting of the 24th Aug. The mails for Vigo, Oporto, Lisbon, Madeira, Cadiz, sad Gerilar will be made up on the morning of the 2;th Aug. The mails for New South Wales, Van Diemen% land, rad NTI Zealand will be made up oh the evening of the 31-t August. The mails for the West Coast of Africa and Madeira will Ea wag ep on the evening, of the 31st August The West India Mails, including Bermuda, Nerves, Him% FlOlllllOll6, New Orleans, Vera Cruz, 'fampicu, and POrt o it. 3, 01 ' eicluding those for Madeira, loonol, Oirthagen ~ Santa Matra Chaser., Panama, West Coast of South America, aid St loads Nicaragua, will be made up on the morning of the lad Sept. The mails for the Brazils, the Meer Pao., Monte Video, Pere. Maio, Bahia, Madeira, end Buenos Ayr., will be made up ai evening attic 4th September. NOTICE TO ADVEUTISE IIB . The number of STANIV , issued It! the A uthoritunti . t.s. -tamp-otbce, during 1847. to the DAILY NEWS was 3,447.0 09 This, we believe, is wnhiu eight per test. Olga meg tamed to the Mornini Ilnnla, .Morning CAterticlr, ai Morning Post, ALL rut T.)(19:111 0 R. In addition to the alx:ve, irsued :o Ye DAILY Sri, Wareing Paper, there were issued t o r the hereon Ligo , THE REPRESS 778 714 Which was more, vee believe, lean well Wiled awry •he Globs or Standard. Evesing Papers. HIUH MATTA AT IMP MIS M MIPOS to DATMs& IT WA pr. AriernAJA 921a.A TAO • T —llorals.A =AA .11. 4: Afternoo. 11 AA. 1.4 limb envo y . was r v i c e, he did not at the Queen either - lame concessions.. vanz ab°uld cone '' d them into Pow' parties interested dlsAnEtu.t aed I o f the Carlis . ts on another. .Sir eel than this. And let us se had had, in the mid st . and Military ric e went; auppose Va . ! and the QuEets as ta ki ng. uncle and the principle of this would i . nti lion by the krei deserted by Eng this time of a str Madrid, at war England, as the in fact, have bee nism, which, pr have etur ree n -mum' Spain, w ol d ha setting England Spain had been w i t h Louts 1 it the o' her a-sail m end I. would ... be republican r Better far that England should aistent conduct, the c onsequenc( despotic court. but he has left French or other cage of his abet court reign by e cannot take r England in its tachment of th the middle and Mr. Al'Gni. rowes case, Spanish govcri Englishmen w or as creditors o ught to be manded. If answer an En into a prison out of the cool liberal, and on up or even Ids protection for TIIE return pliical distribu • It exhibits thi present year year of 1847 entitled to att The promit expressed. I almost a gen articles of mi cottons, wool] next place, changes wh last and p • the world I supplies of c There is a sir the countries and, finally, anus discrep columns of tl Central Euro The genera months is dei the total exp 1645 1846 In 1847 lb ordinary tra cept tboae fr and it is pro that year tel documents a deficient hat of our expo' customary c tis with far tion of trad , as the sudd the mercha Descendi figures of I of our man millions an 11146 . 1647 IAS The dec of eatiefact able corm the Unite( commerce ing were r 1846 . 1847 . 1848 . The in Binary. nearly qi creased t almost d well con who per corn the goods, b Gold au , of all c spun, n( mon-ple lurni before u trees wl the con In It lowing them is moat lu Nov these i but es Calm Maur Cn this tat 0111 N go