The Express. — London, England, 1848-05-12 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FIIDAY EVENING, MAY 12, 1848. bring io a bill for an inquiry into this ease, he having inti mated that though be could ant agree to the issuing of the writ without inquiry, be could not go to far as the amend ment of the hon. mem ber fee Montrose proposed—vie., to suspend the writ altogether. Earl of MARCH. remarked that it was wholly in The cemsequence of the promise given b y the noble lord to bring in a bill for proceeding immediately with the inquiry as to Bonbons, that he had consented to withdraw his motion for issuing the new writ. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME fully approved of the course government had taken, and hoped • tull inquiry would be instituted into all the cues in which there was reason to suspect bribery had prevailed at the late election. Mr. OONNOR, while expressing himself favourable to inquiry, protested against placing all the boroughs s uspected of corrupt practicee in one indictnient, and it would be most unjust to the eleet-rs of ( the that they should remain unrepreeeeted until all the other cases had been that was proposed war, that the same mode erved of trial that shoalluld b e adopted in all the cases. Each case would be dealt with separately, and on its own merits. Mr. MANGLES believed that the only way to put an end to bribery in small boroug hs was to throw them th open to m uch larger constituen cies. In the majority of o roughs now there mere from 100 to 200 honest electors on each side :sh oree were, pethape, 40 Of 50 more whose votes were always tbe bought, and who always turned the scale in favour of that candidate who paid most. Mr. J. STU Ali thought the circumstances under which the only question now under consideration, viz., what was to be done with the borough of llorthein, arose, were most unconstitutional and wijustitiable as regarded that borough and the house, and not very creditable as reganled the go vernment. (Rear.) The noble lord having gis en a pledge to bring forwcrd a bill as to llorsham, proposed now, if not to a.m, to leave it in aheyance until the house shld have ba dec nd ided upon another measure which had nothingou to do with the borough its question. Was the government bill to be abandoned ? No answer was given. Ulcer.) Was I it to he proseruted ? ea answer was eiven. Lord J. RUSSELL intimated that he was perfectly ready to give an answer. (liner.) Mc. .1. SIT ART —But in the sneerer the noble lord had already given, he bed mixed up this ense ith that of every borough in the kingdom. The promise of the noble lord wee, that the inqa , re as to llorsham should be by a com mittee as in the Sudliury caw, and not by a roving commie ajar. Sir R. INGLIS contended that the house ahavin ot g, hers t ie e in cases ti t Lancaster , Carlisle, Sligo, Aylesburytion, issued new , nd w hi c h members had been unseated on peti writs. those who proposed to make Horsham an exception, and to deprive'it for a time of its constitution .1 privileges were bound to show sufficient muse. (ilea.) That had not been dose, and should the present motion be pressed to a division he should vote fur it. Mr. STAFFORD referred to the myster ious circurnstacees under which Cie defence of the seat for Horsha had been so suddenly abandcned, but could not understan d why, be muse of a conversation with a pothoy in the lobby of the committee-room in London, the purport of which nobody knew, but which had resulted in the surrender of the seat, the bemegh ebstild be temporarily disfranchised. I near. hear.) Lord J. Itt"-±i.,ELL had been asked by the hon. and learned member (Mr. Stuart) what coarse he intended to pursue with regard to the bill he hail brought in. The course he proposed to take was this: to wait until the house should come to a decision upon timbal of the hon. baronet the mern :ter for the Flint boroughs; and if that bill should be affirmed, a d ud, he borough cf Harwich should be included in its sche ule, the inquiry would take place in the moth laid down by that measure, in which ease the bill he I ad introduced as to this particular case would be no touter necessary. Mr. STAFFORD —Will them oble lord give the bill be refers to prec , dence of the govment business ? (Cheer+ 1 Mr. CRITES deprecated any further postponement of the ~I vain on his measure Sir J. HAMMER was withal( to bring whenever opportut.ity was afforded him, but suggested that as he had made various alterations in it, at the suggsotion ot s everal legal authorities an d other , perhaps it would be better to read it a steond time then pro f ermis —(no, no) have it printed with the amendments, and take the discus sion on Mel into eammittee. Lord 3. ItIeSSELL intimated that he would give up Thursday next for the discussion, ar.d Sir J. HAMMER fixed the second reading for that day. Mr. HENLEY complained of the injustice the electorsthat of , Horsham were subjecte d to b y the delay, and suggested at the bill of the hon. member for the flint boroughs was so much altered he had better withdraw it, and reintroduce it in its improeed shape. The SO LI C ITO lt-U EN ERAL though rwhat had weaned proved p efficiently that it wets neither the fault of govern- ment nor tie hon. baronet (Sir J. lianmer) that the bill was not proceeded with. He could see no reason why the prix I ciple of the bill should not be affirmed atm ea on o e I I ce- 1 that principle being to provide ter an inquiry, by ns commissioners on the spot, into all those cases in which there was Tenon to 'aspect, from the report of the election eon emitters. that terrain practices had prevailed at elections. The propesed changes were merely hz the machine ha for car rying out that object. As that wa s objected to, perhps the better (verse weule be to withdraw the bill—re-introduce it with the alteranens, and take the dieeussion as proposed on Thursday. (Hear, hear.) lie wietted it, however, to be understood that it was no fault of the hon. baronet's (Sir J. Mailmen), or the government's, that a speedy decision was not come to en the subject. Sir R. PEEL had distinctly nr. derstooti that the noble l us ord, on the part tat the government , when he proposed to s pend the writ and promised to i ntro duce a bill for that pu ose. rp had stated that e inquiry in the case of llorsham would tine be proceeded la i t h without delay. Jinn, h ea r.) It was upon receiving from him (Sir R. reel) an intimation that that was his impression that his noble friendd had ( Lerd March) etocsented to w ithdraw his motion: an that not l en his understandieg of the arrange• mint he theta. have had great reluctance in con senting to the postponement of the writ. Now he under stood this CUT was to he left te be dealt with by the bill o' the hon. member for the flint boroughs with the others ; and that the noble lord pr tpe.ed to give up Thurs day next far the discussion. (Hear. hear.) That, howeeer, would tot solse the difficulty. TLe seeend leading might be ettirmed, Let important question. , might arise in com mittee as to what extent the :equity should be carried in each case ;and he was on e to suspend the writ on the Horsham case until those inquiries should be concluded. (Rear, hear. The coune he woad recommend was that government ) should themselves undertake the c onduct of the bill by means of which the inquiry was to be instituted. The indetinite postponement of the writ was a serious mat ter, and cen , idering th the at te Sellettend had wand or-General had already been privately cersulted on t blb:l i clauees. he thought it would give him very Ihtle additional trouble to take t heeheduet o f it e a t hat house . I Ilear•) After a few words fr om Lid le oEtentll in favour of the motior, , Mr. E. DENISON said he hoed the hon. member would not proceed to a vote ; e-t it he did, he (Mr. D.) I would vote ter the motion, unties the noble lord took the matter into his own hands. Mr. GORING said he (lid not object to inquiry, but he I could not see why Horsham sheede net have the madea mea sure of justice as those °the r p lates for which wilts been issued. lie should therefore e.vile. For isisuing the writ Against it ........................ 167--t, i LUNATIC ASYLUMS te4COTLAND) BILL. Tho LORD ADVO CATE, in moving the eec ti necessondity rea the 1 1 ding 1 of this Lili, netted its import ales an en ground that in 24 counties then was efooluttly at this mo meat no actomnvAation whew.? in the shape either that oh of public or privat e as y lums for :leant.. Ile prop e' the bill be , read a second ttme it be referred to a select' committee, tepieg by it to remoee what he coneidered as al, stain and reproach upon the country. Mr. F. MACKENZIE melee' cot oppose the hill, but differed from the learned lore to t; the propriety of establish-1 ing a separate hoard. Mr. !JUNE said he had to obtectien whatever tothe Principle ot the bill, knowing ns et (lid the necessity which existed in many parte of Scotland :or ench accommetletion for the reception of the unfair ;e class of individuate for which the bill went to prey: ',... ):-. however, must exerts , * a doubt as to the necessity •f t - int a new hoard to manage and centred the ass ierre. :iv thought the paroched board, could well discharge ti... - . ei v. , Mr. AOLIONDY eoneutr. e. :: t.:.e principle of the bill, unit thanked the goveennit et ter te . .• steleitude ,b own by the measure for the care of the er e 17 - -inute class of persons to 'atom it rt fated. At the sae: t:tne he must observe that from Kirkcudbright and Deretras remit complaints Intl reaelicd him on the subject •i'.. e otxpense w heth the bill would throw upon the tar. •p:...r, those district. hle. FORBES sale that he shoe , . be glad tot learn the the vrineh the propene' hen et. wo would entail upon e' ra se At present tie wee-erred with the hon. member for Montrcse f Mi. Hume, 31 r_e.eting a neer board wholly unitecte sar y. Ile should. net, ettee ever , oppose the ttecend reading of the bill. Mr. EWART gave hi, warn. t .;.port to the general prin eiple of the bill, which was v ry much required in many parts of Scotland. Ile hope.: tiewever, that regard would be had to the peculiar pwitioce ,es KirkeudbrlghteDumfries, and Wigton, all of went, ii.e& t e n ithout any additional outlay, avail themselves et th e ampleaecommodation afforded ty the Crichton Asylum at Llndense.. Mr. MAITLAND statel thet withal the last few days the measure had received the sweet.' of It large meeting, held in the stewartry of had been leirkeutlbrigh-, and that within the lest fortnight a similar Ciprt6b.e.+l: tel I o ieitm tnide ha other parts of Scotland. . Sit G. CLERK supports., tee e.....ageintewbich no sub, su.ntial oppoeition hail betel 7.41,.., teroughoitt Scotland. He cordially eePreetsel thir.l3or44,lv-nit)le•Wleithil thought the Lord Advocate had dune wine/ 4 pr.*:_wille to refer ft td a select committee, by wuene .the c ApplAwited details of 'the measure Lt he ati awns:. , . Mr. J. WORTLEY.jelted ez:th the. tight hon. baronet G. Clerk) in thanker.; the leeraesreL Advocate fee . Couneeted with the evarte of Bu te, he eines horrible syste to knee, sate wen the nntoetutrete i ns sent th.the /4,,---4C.Antra, and who • were in a merely i.e.. , I,..l.taleang te luthian nature. inorel4,4 , y e.r . i. ',remedy ehin the, existing .4 1 itLEeSidalt , with refteence to the insane. • ADIDAS etas ti114.{.L.2i the bill, and unite d' in bestowed on thi. Ler eeeteneate Azi its iutrodione *ow words from the L e one) ennvocaxe the bid was 1 time, and sneer. .1 to Al referred to . a .select . . 41.E51UVAL ALAENS BILL • fLEY moved tt.t ?ceding of the:Rena:mak Bill. l of ARUNDEL 5.0. l SURREY begi • etl to r.:: an extract ken. t. Mar be had received Iron. tadutu.k.er tht o.lmlter of v.ers'in Ftaue) -----'e---------------_-----e--.-es--e.-'..-...... --- th i d =wig s • amin e he a t to the Count de Montalembert. That gntle- h r use .g ese antegwalogyonon pp o e tt to Of r ptrawntl;:ty thr e man stated that he found witk great concern his name bad • e si been mentioned in that house aeons of there who bad incited hum dissaming republicanism, aod adopting such Ireland against the British government ; and he added 1 violent measures as the one we are now discussing. Nothim awn be further from my lan sage and opinions Mt Wend , And I entreat the governnsent not to think that there is a (Hear, hear.) I have already jest. I have &hew, It is true, felt and espreseed t tte t deepest amps. paisi,, ac re on the per t o f the country in the me .. thy for the . er . ori p gs and A. utfi r ‘rtnf: of Ireland : i ttn ba b: j . l a sz t eam . • tintni sores they en now peeetee. :etVte et t. L r unettete. N ooe en ,r= t g g ' 6 ,, her nun nuke gg explained why it is that you have a majority in thin how ; well as for the sake of religion and Immunity, England will te,00.0 AA the feeling outside, I Moore VIA, ii very different--(hear, posed& animater , to Ireleiel ; but, at the mme time I reinsin tenets , hear )-and if you want to maintain the institutions of the the die•trities a moral force AA professed by the itlestrious Daniel country, do not trust to coercion, but engirt to concessions - setionnell. As for the repeal ot the union, I have never es messed any to remedial mea sures ; reform yourselves and retrench your opinion upon tr. !inhjec expenditure. (Loud cheers.) Mr. MOWA 1 considered the bill to be a direct vie lotion of the spirit of the he and an outrage Lord J. RUSSELL -The hon. member for Falmouth upon the public opinion of the day. It Moe a measure (Mr. Mowatt) complained that the government hail, at the which could only be justified by stern necessity as had lieginning of the session, introduced various measures of been Admitted by the right honourable baronet (Sir U. coercion, and raid that they were abandoning the principlet Grey) when he introduced the tell. The right hon. baronet which they had formerly professed, and were acting against had, however, failed to show the existence of any such ,ne- the constitution of the country as generally recognised by ceeity. Same details ought to have been furnished the the people. It him certamly been our tate to have to intro house in this respec, but, OA yet, the house was without any duce measures which were intended for the purposes of re justification or palliation for this bill. Ile deeply regretted premien. If such measures were not necessary, we were not that a liberal government sliould have devoted all this session pettihed in introducing them ; if they a ere necessery. I to the passing of penal measures only, for it seemed to him thiiik then wo should have been much to blame had we re that they were trading upon the fear of the country. fused to perform that which was our duty to the welealfectsd Though this was a childish and u elect his it wee cal• and well•dispotied pcoplo of this country, from any fear of culled to widen the breach between this country and re- meth imputations an the bon. gentleman has thrown out. publican France, and wee intended to stop the introduction (Hear, hear.) But I think there are some tests by which of republican principles into this country. In that respect the utility and nectesity of such measures may be tried. One tphuiemiaitshuortu•tweisptremoo ilna,ttet,hfoerarilibplsicinhperfiegictiiilnee .we e r g lie t l:l e and s , . ith wanheitiltiteiroludeih.t um:bailee E l: . witewlivephaiihoirotoui,omtirid utocetilli,e by many thinking mei educated men in Great lititein. and of which the operation has been in some degree Seeing that the bill was unnecessary, ueeless, and unconsti- seen, have been successful in diminishing crime and the ve nation'', he should move that it be read a third time thistle' , cement to crime, whether they hive here euccessful in six months. allaying . that state of disturlunce and uneasinesa which pre- Mr. lIUME seconded the amendment. railed in one part of the united kingdom. (Hear, hear.) Lord D. STLIA.Itt cauld not allow the third reading to And a second test is, whether those measures have operated 1 government introduce a measure of this description-a ordinary snit A um% enjeyment of the liberties of the pt•oplo measure which was wholly unnecessary awl uncalled for. of this country. (llear, hear.) In 'peeking of those rata- Mr. MUNTZ said be should with great plereure support mires, and applyieg thew teste-fellowine the example iif the amendment, and should rejoice if ho could throw out the hon. memlser tor the West Riding of York-hire -1 do this most disgraceful measete. not mean to make any distinction between whig and tory- • Mr. EWAKT must reprise , his eisapproliation of this men- (hear, hear); because I believe that both parties, in these WC ; he objected to the principle entirely. unite, whatever may have been the distinguishing character. Mr. M. ts't htt thought the bill wholly unnecessary. lathe which belonged to these parties in anterior periods of He principally objected to it as giving evidence of timidity our history, have been canteeny and equslly anxious to an s d ir gr i o t un l te maintain those constitutional le wren. so Item the boulder the E itia lt i i rY ni s . eiel this was no question of interfering inhaltitante of these islands. Now, with regent to the first with other countries, but of foreigners interfering with us. measure ietroduccel by us, which has been descrilwil ae e It such persons chose to i•orne here and plot against our in- coercive measure-the Irish Arens Bill -we found that there stitutiens they deserved condign punishment. began to prev blot autumn, a dreadful ficemency of MCC Mr. G. la NCAN said he should support the measure in Ireland, making the life ut every individual unsafe, awl because government considered it necessary. eieher driving men from the country, or espoting them, as Sir G. WIEN: thanked the hon. gentlemt n who had op- they returned home from market or any other ordinary .posed this measure. fur the Winless with which their oppuee• %minims, to be waylaid and assaesinated from behind the lion bad been conducted. In moving the second reading of hedges ; in ehort, reducing the country to such a state, that the bee he had referred generally to the state of attain every one who was a posseseor of property, or had anything which rendered it neccuary, to the circumstances occurring to do with its management , even down to tee small farmer, every day, familiar as they . were to every one in was made to feel that he could not safely ioliabit the the noun. lie had not wished to introduce names country. (Hear, hear.) Sir, we introduced a kill which I of particulars ; but circumstances had come to his do not think interft red with the ordinary employment of own knowledge, in the discharge of his official (tidy the people of Irtiend, which was not open to the objection with reference to some foreigners at present in this country, that attached to the various bills that have been introduced nut those who had sought refuge here from political pease- with the lame object at other times-that of confuunding cation on account of opinions expressed in their own come the innocent with the guilty ; fur this hill, while it left the try, but those who were here for the purpose of ceerceeng innocent in the enjoyinent o f all their privileees, took an interference in the affairs of this nation, which would not effectual pains to disarm those who were intent up:Onetime, he allowed in any c iuntiy. ( Ilea, hear.) Ile did not and in the habit of cJintnittiag crime. lam happy to say mean to say there was the leaet pretence that this bill was that the last eccounts which we have remind as to the necessary tor the security of the throne and government ; amount of crime In Ireland, tend to show how very great a such a suppoetion would be on insult to the people of t hi s cheeky leas been introduced into the condition of the people. country. tCheers.) The government had hail too much 1 find that while in April, 1817, the number of crimes reason to appreciate the sound loyalty which animated the amounted to 5,20. , , in April, 'SIX, they only amounted to people not to expr. es the fullest confidence that any maelii- A l' Ilumicidee, which in April, 1847, wide 21, were in nations or disturbance, whether by foreigners or others, April, lleIS, only U. The crime of tiring at persons had would be put down by the sound loyal and constitutional diminished from 19 in April, 1847, to .h in April, lull. feeling of the people. (Cheers.) But woald hon. goal The crime of demand or robbery of arm had diminiehed tlernau look at whet had Wien place in Intend and say the from fie in April, lea, to 12 in April, ISM ;the crime of bill was unnecessary f Government had a right to take some le.aring arm. from lii in April, 1847, to 7in April last. In made fur the precautionary meaures they had adopted, as the same way several other crimes have dimshed very instrumental in bringing about the more satisfactory state of greatly ; and even in the hat month, as compared with the things which now prevailed in that country. The hind end prei•elling, the diminution in the total :seemlier of emirs has peaceable subjects ot these realms had a right to Intik to the been from 1,19 to 1,196. (Ilear, hear.) I certainly should goveinmere for reasonable measures of precaution. cll. ar, not omit to mention that in two cin:uits, these td iites hear.) Looking at the peculiar circumstances of Lurope County and ieecornmon, no offene% against the and of neighbouring countries, at the spirit of propagandism person are report( d in April, 18 IS. 'fherefore, which exis ed-not on the part of the government of those whetever l'inguage may be used against the government, countries, but of individual. belonging to foreign come ries- for having introduced the bill which was ca rr irr t thioneh the g vernment was bound, in justice to the loyel and this house before Christmas, it is a great satisfaction to me peaceable subjects of this realm, and fur their security those to have been instrumental in passing an act, owing to the any attempt ut disturbance, to ask from parliament those coneluences of which, in a great measure, there has been powe rs which in they times they might not think s ecured greater safety to life, end men are enabled to carry neceesary ; and they asked them no w onl y for a limited on their eccupations with Pettey in that country, free from time, and for an object which distinguished thew bill the apprehensions of continual and barbarous murders. from former alien eels-simply, the preservation of peace (Cheers.) But, sir, we introduced very lately a measure and tranquility in teese realm.. Allusion had been made for the gloaters ecurity of the crown and government uf this to what tell from the learned Attorney-lienerel on a former country. The main (rehires of that measure were features occasion. as to the ',reliability of this measure being inopera- of mitigation--mitigatien of the law a t firemen as it previously live. What was meant by the hon, awl learned gentleman stood. (Heat) But we did that to which I think no one was that the occasions would be very rare on which it would could well object; seeing that if a measure in reference to be nteeuary foe the government to put in force the powere that crime was necessary for lengland, it was no less necueary they possessed. lle believed the object would be fully for Ireland ; and if it were proper that we in this country aaswered be its being known to those who were disposed to should hit subject to nude a law, it was no lege tit abase the lieepitality of this country and the liberality of its that the Irish should be subject to the same law. ulmiuistrAtion with regard to foreigners, that the govera- ( ar e hear ) Though that act list been in eperetien ment pouessed those powers. (Hear.) lut them know that, tat a very short time, its effect, its successful e ff ect, in !n -it they cause here for a lawful purpose, hospitality land has been very visible. (Cheers.) Every o nod illTend friendship would still be extended to them ; but member that, six weeks ago, it was impossible to any of if they came fur other purposts, if they came at the papers tram Ireland without seeing that insti were the unit:dim of parties within the United King- making a great bravado of their courage ; with great cm dom, asking them to "mist in creating disturbance, 'shads, and with great demonstration of what they were then let them know that thin government poessesed the about to do, they declared it was their intention tu make power ed whi it would notshrink from exercising-but which war against her Majesty and her Majesty's troops, and to it hop no to be called on to exercise-of removing them %ever Ireland from its a.legiance to this eouniry ; and the N from this country, solely fur the purpose of preserving the spared nu kind of invective, not only aseeinst the crown and peace end tranquillity of this country, and preventing the government, bus against the people of this country. (Cheer , . ) accomplielnuent of those evil design. ethic!, they bad come It has appeared latey, indeed, that those persons, although here to further. (Cheers.) Ut course fOrriMICIII coming they %peke in thin way, spate so very much became they here for busintss did not come within the operation of the were in D ublin, and actually under the secur it y and prate bill, but only such persons as he had now described. Its Con of that very governmeut which they professed theirs e truettil the house would not repent having contided thew termination to overthrow and annihilete. (Cheers) And it powers to the government, the result of which he hoped did happen that when on Line occasion the commander of would be most satisfactury. (Hear, hear.) tier Majesty's troops had not forces immediately at hie Mr. M. GIBSON mid that those lumens who imagined deposal, in order to protect the person% of some of thewore that the ordinary laws and statutes of the realm were nut of these wouldew tractors - these penions were in danger, eulticiently eteingent to deter aliens from committing crimes not from her Majesty's troops and her Majesty's police, hut against the public safety hied ample iustithation in intrude.... they required the assistance of those very troops eed police, ing and suppurtiug this measure ; but he had great deli- in order to wive them from the consequences of those cult] in believing that it was necessary to o a th anything harangues and those writings in which they had so freely in whatseever to the powers of the exec mire r e criminal dulged in Dublin and some other places. (Cheers and law to order to prevent aliens from disturbing the pease laughter.) But, sir, although these very pereons were so of the realm. (Hear, hear.) If asked whether he would willing, a few weeks ago, to submit to the [imitates of high punish an alien for doing tbit, his allsW.l was. he would treason, and so ready to declare that they must either put punish an alien just the same as an L'uglislimen fer any dawn Clarendon, or that Lord Clarendon trust put offence ageinst our laws. ( Llear.) An alien, while in this down t h em , their tone has bent entirely changed. (Cheers.) 1 couutry, owed a temporary allegiance to our laws, hut was It is new the most mild and mitigate) Dunn, the most entitled at the same time to Mete protection. II it were milk -and-water redition- (laughter)-eo weak a mixture of thought sae to surround an Englielicuan with safe- treason, insubordinetion, and rebellion, that it really has guards against the success of a false accumtion, why tamed become mete fiat to those whose appetites I t present-1y not a foreigner also stand in need of the same safeguards ? been tickled by the highly• flavoured diet formerly prepared An alien in England, not epeeking the language, havilig no and administered by these permute (Great laughter.) I means of ceiling witnesses to charatter, without the i•rdi- Therefore, 1 say, w ent g to that net, which met with 1 nary means of exciting the sympathy of eltlat around him so much oppositioin this hosier, that it has here very use- , which an Englishman pssessed-was he the man to have ful for its purpoP, has had the effect of cerbilig in a • the less need cot these invaluable safeguards against rabic great mesaure this very inflammatory and dangerous tan , aecusations which were secured to our own countrymen ? if gunge. At the name time, I venture to assert that it has tore safeguards could not be diepeneed with in one cam not in the least degree diminished or embed the peeper they certainly ought r.ot to be taken away in the other. liberty of discussion in Ireland with reepect to any measure (Cheers.) Entertaining, as he did, a strong objection to of the government. (Hear.) I venture to ray that any one again placing an alien act on the statute book he could not who really wishes to discuss the measures of the government do less than state the grounds of his objections. hatever faulte he might wish to hind with them. or what- Mr. IiktUTHERTUN had not the least doubt with regard ever epitheU ho might 'mesh to apply to the conduct of the to the people of this country. lie would have government government-i• fully ea much at liberty to do so as he was lead public opinion rather than (misuse it, knowing that they before this act peened. lie meet keep within certain limits; would be supported if they did AO. lie should support this he must not use eeditious languaee. Such was the law ot nieusure as a question of conscience. the land before this act paved ; euch is the law of the land Mr. COBDEN --Sir, the speech of the hon. gentleman now. Oleo, hear.) Then we come to the bill now who preceded ine appi an to in -to he not so much in lavour before the houeo, of the they; of which I. certainly can of the ministry as of a minister. This sip ' teh had confiened not speak very confitlently ; but corteinly my right no w me in the opinion which I 'nave fur some time entertained, friend near me (Sir G. Grey ) has given MO rellsoll to think that we are liable to puss bad nu Retires here, not bee.eums we that it will have a beneficial effect. I wish to disclaim ite approve of them, but because there happens to be a peculiar being &mice againet any particular government or any state of artier, whereby a huge 'lumber of meraliers on this particular nation. (Hear, how.) It is quite untrue that it aide of the house support the government in good or bad MCA- mat all intended against French government or against sures because they have tweak foe fifteen years in the habit of the people of France. (lbw . , hear.) With respect to the voting for them-(hear) ; and the state of parties on the government of Frame, l o am sure wo all have reason to re other side induces a large number of members to vote collect with the strongest feclinee of admiration that in a with the government IIrCAIIAC they are not prepared to take moment of great peril, when n oo se could say what might the government the ; and another huge body sup be the fate next ilay of thembere of the l'rovisiunal Carta the government because they would prevent the other Government, one of the members of that government, H r on their own ride ot the. house front taking the Mons. Lamertine, held language to the Irish deputice, gen niment at all. (lieu, and lauphter.i I think this a who, to say the least, for a very to purpose, had very unfurtunete nate of parties ; because we get rid of all gone to the French tepital-feheers)-lanittiage which, our responsibi:ity, and instead of cot ism for or against certain while it exposed him to the assault of any ru ffi an who wished measures on conscientious considetets, we are apt to be to curry terror and insurrection into this country, was Vieth swayed by the thought of who is in offic ice'. who is liktly to honourable to him at, a man and praiseworthy to him AA a see situ CifiCe. I have made up my mind to give my vote minister-luneenao owed that he really had at heart, - • ''' -*- - - - • - ltiknilmitly of all patties ; and I believe the country will at whatever resi Lever have a chance of getting good nietteures until we of amicable rale totally fling rode the old dietioctioas of parties, and decide -whose amity on measures aeconling to the:it merits. lam quite sure that world-whose di, th e great measures with which I have beet. connected -1 place wit hout thi I allude particularly to that of free trade-would never kind. (Loud e' have been paesetl had we not commenced its advocacy by I happened in di reselving to regard whigs and halm; as identically I repel succesisioi -the rams ; and 1 bee to say that I than se regard the in in all the uncettainte future questions ill which I may take a part. (Hear, how.) to tette precaut Thin Alien Bill has been so exeausted by preceding speakers sincerely trusts that I need net dwell upan it. One view, however, hes not those who wish been taken. The fact that gas verninere are passing ale n party, and to ; bilis and bill. fur OW protectien ef the crown and government some &Cara .1. is ro MO • proof that they are taking the wrong direction open some 'loin altogetht r- that they arc Illor adepting that which ie the li.et trust that those t course fur strengthening and preeerving our institutions. in France, it (Heer, beer.) They teem to me not to have Profited by the mid that we example set All the tontinent, where rspressiop Aud coercion weich might is 'have tailed iit the purposes to which they have been appLed, emissaries amongst and governmeuts have fallen because they have not taken iu the present ier star the uppoeite cause of coneßiatMa and coneem iou. (lieu, cautions W' 'hear.) Still we see our government following the old cours e, hear.), lam resor ing to coercion and repTeM:6ll,toalienbills andtoctown the gresteet eat and gevernment atcurity bias; tut We have hathno measure will concur in r+ p• ende d to the Louse tend the country which is cairn o longer 12 . 0eCrat .dat"-il'Ullo iner.use the aeachMent of the people to theinititu- non ; that out etiens of the country. (Hear, hear." I venture to say that ration of nit ehe country is' looking mist nnxicusly at the present time, (Hear, hear.) \• neTfosr coercion bills,' not ler gaeging bills,' new Tor bills to further mesa' 1 peotect the p..ople of this eigitatry ;Ighart aliens; bett. they - eoveininene, • are waiting to hem' from theAcatnraint the ardiouncement hive 0 ht t•eremetlial 01CaAlarr. (Wear; 'Turk.) They cepect to hear the serge tilde, that theeovernment are prepered to put eur Tepees , fleetest 'The businessef system usore in harmony- entheligisepiritof the age. (Cheers:)• mete -of .the The people of this country tire net' prepared to sec all the hairy; nd werLi. in motion while they are standing . etilt-still hen, bring fore • making a nee ale niovemeht. • (Cheers The country do •it. I,_ :,alto looking for retreheliMeot alig CCOCOMY ; Slid 1 YAW deice. (Cheers. thisto - sey that if you wish to maintain the monareby of dittery laws , this ceuntry agairist republicert• innevitiees you will do 'of the peace sore to ac coMplish that (Meek by cattiog away some of member for 0 itatharberousspleuslour,whichs to other times, which course whist i .a. coat to the country, . an , ran 4l•l4llkliSettlellt to the order to cur s aisteerAcy, you will d o more to reeoncile Oa:, poople of this With regr cedary to monarthiaal lidititations, by removing some of alliaed we are brought brought forward by the hon. member for Montrose (Mr. Hume), and other members of this house. of For th ray own ple part, I cannot believe that this representation eo in this country is in such a state as the hon. member for the west riding seems to imagine it to be. My belief is that the votes of this house, since it met in November last—putting out of sight the question whether it is properly formed, whether there ought to be such a number of small boroughs retu rn ing membera, whether the repreeentatives have been elected i n the best m 1 leaving all the s e questioas to be debated on a future day, I say I believe that the votes of this house--of the majority of this home—leave neither been owing to any peculiar state of parties, nor have they unfaithfully represented the opinion lif the majolrity nk of the people of this military. (Applause.) Nor do thi that they look to the r“luction, to the taking away of what the hon. gentleman (Mr. Cobden) calls " the barburoue pomp of the crown, belonging to past timea," to iliminishine the app. redeures el royalty ; I. do not believe that this is the way in which the govern mentor this house would conciliate toe general !vellums of the people, of this co untry.untry ( are Bear, hear.) I myself believe that the people of thoroughly and strongly attached to the 0 th of thin country (Gear, hear.) Ido not know t there ever was a time when I perceived such strong evidence of attachment to the, throne of this country. (Cheerea I know that he conduct of the illustrioue person who iest t h a t throne, that the e xample given by the U MW occup sovereign of this country in every relation of domestic life, I and in the discharge of those more important and solemn I duties which attach to her august position, i. ouch as every one of right principle must approve— (chem.) ; and I lie- , ou g ht to n that conduct meets with the re ward which it ought to have in the affections of the people. (Loud cheers., l do not believe that that which is necessary fur the mainte nance of the royal Mike, which I admit is quiie unneeeseary for the comfort or the happiness of the suvereign hereelf, but tat which is neer-shar tor the due maintenance end dignity ~f the royal office, is p at a I losgrudged by the people of this country. (Cheers ) I believe that they wish these institu tions to be maintained. 1 do mit think that any changes which we might propose which would Alike or impair thi 1 i nst it u tions of this country would meet with th e approba tion of the people. (Ilear , h ear.) I believe that we should be acting in a intoner contrary to their wishes it we were to embark M a sea of speculation, setting everything alioat, and making it doubtful what OUT future constitution was to Ise ( Ilear, hear.) I believe, whatever may have been the necessity for the violent changes that have taken place in foreign countries, that oil chums in this country, from the highest to toe lowest see the advantage ut a system of well regulated liberty, and are convinced t hat order and peace tend to th welfare of the wking these% as well re to the advantage e of all other cheeses o f this country . (Loud cheers.) 1 am imminceil that the example of the blessings of peace and order is not lost uoun the people of this country. ( Hear, hear.) They have too much good e , aloe, too much retlec lien, to believe in many of the idle stories that are put shout. ( Ileac ) Whatever proper retrenchments we can make, let us make tera--(har, hear) ;—ey are due to the state of our finances ; they e are due to th e state of suffering in which many of our people arc placed. ( Item, hear.) Let every kind of economy that CUR lie safely prat ieed he practised. (hear, bear.) Let every amendment of taxation that can Ise well carried into effect lie carried into effect. ( near, hear.) But let us not imagine that by shaking any of the meat pillars of the state, or disturbing the basis up in which the enieditution of this country re as, that we shall either be doing good to the country, or that we shall even gain the immediate and silo purpose of getting • little popular ale plat at the expense of all that is valuable! and erideared to the nation. ( Cheer.. ) Mr. BRIGHT raid it was a mere assumption to say that the Arms 1101 had been operative in putties; down crime in Ire-laud; the special commission was infinitely more in strumental for that purp ISe. ( Hear, hear.) As to the Crown and Government Security Bill, the noble lord of chuckled mire than h e had any right to do. Bad any these measur es succeeded in arresting the 'reread of the re peal feeling in Ireland i Far from it. the Elegistl a ven he protestant' we re now protesting against tive Zunion. Ile was in favour of this union, but thought it (MUM only be based on the will and acquiereenee of the people in both countries. ( Hear, hear.) But why should England have had this more strenuous measure ap plied to it, if it was o nl y needed in Ireland ? (Bear, hear.) %Vide regard to the Alien )list be had not hoard a single argument in its favour. All they heard in the shape of an argument was that they must hem ionfidence in her Majesty's government But that argument would not justify them is ri oising a m easure which would ta ke awa y the liberty of the people of this country as well as that of foreigners. (hear, hear.) lied this measure been proposed by the right hon. baronet the nu mher for Ternworth, when he was in office, the noble lard, if he (Mr. Bright) was not mistaken, would have deliveted one of his most elaborate and able speeches in defence of the constitution and rights of the people. (hear.) People were alarmed because there WAS more than a common quantity of beard and mustachios seen in the streets ; and it was said that a certain in dividual, now in this country, Ixcause other foreign countries were too hot to hold him, had declared there were a number of persons in this country with whom his duties to Paris made him acquainkd. ile was not certain that they were not more likely to get into diffi culties in consequence of t he r • sidence of certsia illustrious individuate among them than from that of persons who merely held republican opinions. London was the I- at likely city in the world to be sought for by persons who might wish to raise insurrection or to engage in the practical lii sines of plunder. No illusion wen more complete and child ish than to 'oppose that a bill of this nature was Mee:- airy for the +security and peace- of this realm. (heart, hear.) There were two things, however, which it was likely to do. Oar was that it would create amongst foreigner , emote faint belief than he lynched should prevail of the security and 'to tality of the country—(scar, hear) ; and the other, that it would create in the minds of the people of this country a belief in th e pusillanimity and ignorance c o untry at the headaffairs, who ought outo be best ( acquainted with them, and who ought to he c rageoua in all their public conduct. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord seemed to pluck up spirit since the battle of Limerick. The 10th of April was a great day, but the day of the battle of Limerick was a greater. The noble lord was right in say ing that the people of this country did not wish to destine the institutions of the country, en far as experience proved them to be good. The people of this country did not com plain of the crown, or ut any expense that was necessary for the maintenance nut only of its comfort but of its honour and dignity. Hear.) What they complaintd of WSs this, that the crown coatributed in • great degree, in handing over the taxes drawn from the people, to aveist the hangera WI of the crown. re li e f hail not the fi gure s before him then, but he would ask the noble lord whether he thought it necessary, for the honour of the crown or the dignity of the empire, that there should be connected with the court such este- bliehments as that of the mastership of the buckhounds,which cost this country more than the preeident of the United I, State. cost that country—Gout' cries of " hear, hear")--and I that of the hereditary grand falconer ? Would the people of 1 this country teat content with such toeless appendages I while e Chancellor of the Exchequer could not get on wi one bu d in a session ? (llear, hear.) Would (their main- th teivince tend to the better Keu rity of the crown an The d t ap isle the ! grea t e r strength and compactness of the empire i lord spok.e of the majority in that house art , representing the people. Perhaps they did ; but if they did, they were not the people whom he 1, was in the habit of coining in contact with. (Ironical i ceers.) The iht hon. baronet the member for Tamworth lead a majority r o g f el or BM in 1546 ; but he well knew that on many occasions when the-re existed a majority in favour of the government, it was in a decided minority rumen et the people. (Ilear, hear.) And the noble lord would find, if tie continued to pursue his present course of policy, that his government wool I die of majorities. (near, he..r.) 'lite noble Mel ea.emed to have no vision but one that was bounded by the two lobbies of that house. All his infor mation was derived from Mr. 'rufnell anti Lorel M. Hill. (Laughter.) lie was aorry to see the noble lord adapt his present course, and to find him in strict alliance with a party that had always opposed him heretofore. lie did not be lieve that party were changed, for the leopard could nut change his skin ; but the noble lord had changed. °lcor, heart lie believed that such an alliarice would extreme from him the affections and c on fi dence of the eciple, and, before lung, end in the downfall—the unpitivel elowie a governm e nt which he had wished might last for yearafall—asf Sir J. WALSH said that of all the novel theories which hail been piopounded of late, the most strange was that of the hon. member who had just sat down, who attributeg..d the lie dreadful outrage s in Ireland to spLan:io atti'iuteil the change which hataen lace in Ireland to the measures which had been B a ss e t p by the g overnment. The l i enelicial results had f -flowed from the late bill, putting n:lost down the mischievous agitation in that country. in It -- notorious that there were persons in Feria whove WA -•' -nd that re ly of th, m hat! cease. After a desultory conversation, Mr. 13RlOIIT said that he thought the tone and conduct ' of the noble lord (Morpeth) ought to satisfy the house that he had no wish to force upon it any objectionable choke. I t ha had no doubt of the noble lord's wish in that respect, but hoped that as much power as possible would he left in the hands of the local boards. The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again this day. Lord J. RUSSELL said (in reply to Lord Lincoln) t hat there would be no committee of supply until this day se'nnight. BOROUGH ELECTIONS BILL. Sir J. BAN M ER withdrew this bill, and moved fur leave to bring in a nather bill on the same subject. Mr. HUDSON objected to the introduction of the new bill without some explanation as to the .itterenco in its provi sions from the bill which had been withdrawn. Ile RISA sur prised the hon. member for Saltord (Mr. Brotherton) did not at this hour move as usual the udj imminent of e house, as - -* measure th of such int mas far as their Mr. BROTHEILTON, adverting to the m , er , , ,t e , : n er: d iti ,b ee . 7 expedient to give their .equioce.c. to the , general effect was concerned. (Hear.) Being most desirous the introduction of the New Boriote EleCti , ,Cli II C u t to effect Wine practical legislation on this subject, he was a that as his name had been frequently' hundred-fold more plemed at accomplishing this object than hon. member ( becauseer, he (Mr. B rei r, toob y fits if, by • positive adherence to the bill as onginally proposed, consplain,that the hon. member did not c ' e tt it was likely to be detested. (Hear, hear ) The alterations in his place when the discussion toek piece early i thy '"` he promised to make in the bill were them, that when one- log on the Horsham writ, and when it was arran 'l id tlia "". th, tenth (nut 50 as it stood in the bill) of the rated inhahitants first Boroneh Elections Bill should he withdrawn g od i t of auy corporate city, town, or place, with ascertained bill substituted, be should come down at that hour -4.1 and definite boundaries made application, inquiry should attempt tu re.open • deiuste whieh had heen der m a' — then take piece in the manner prescribed by the Ile (Mr. Brotherton) should strongly &drew the lin.— or, bill ; that, if in the course of that inquiry it was to juin u temperance society. (Laughter, and cries found expedient to add any new districts to the town or "order.") At all evente, when the Qualification n i ef "' place, inquiry should take place in the name way ; that when hers Bill came under coneidersition, he (Mr. liroth ahmo i t forceall net proposed to include any new districts or to inter- should move that one of the qualifievions required s e ll id with any local act now existieg, the general board might be, that the member was also a member of a temper t se . proceed as in the bill to submit a report which might be club applied to the district by order in council; but that when Mr. HUDSON rose, and with great warmth said the i lk new districts were included, or local acts interfered with, the potation thrown out by the hen member fee Salfurd w ee ' g n e o n t e w e a l i i b ,, oard applied were t. in th o th , a i i t st e r a i cset till i f r t iase , ~a n ep t i r , o „ : ti f o a n n a I ac o g r tr d e t a r it most e°,t: o m gr a np: t u : i a t hd o i u ct . ho , - ,o h i an u ye t b ei t returned i n e ednivimd uo coz i l t il dy w .,c i e t . h utt a l i: i l kii th w e i . tx... . 0, ,A 7 1 . , , such .swith as W omrigau h th a it ett t 0 rh i f .. 1 0, 1 ., i inf l hs.b t e h g: e .shnin h :p: e. su e : e n es :race . a rn adtt nhie: unprecedented. e r at: m d:T e ntc a hthh o emea i b b:h y miw, ne,h. the ,:..it t. e he li me a rirat member, member, hw e :,: i . ll . ji; eri:rpelianm.e,nhtuett alspOulbltlflicinaldt.; in:hiteraenwacetre was required fur private bills, which weuld occasion o n f th p e a r rl a ia l m ter e a n t t i ven he .... M e... reapeCt to officers, hut those he mentioned were the main quite ready and preper..cl to meet the hon. member On in alterations in the hill. Mr. HENLEY thanked the noble lord for accepting the to whisper away • mao's character ; aud he ep i palto i ll suggestions he had made. After a few words from Mr. T. lioettroo and the ATTOU- sued by tie hon. member fur Sallurd was not es u co ucalinife; NVY-CIENKKAL, Cul. SIBTHORP moved that the chairman report seemed to be as careless of character es be was ot pee l .ai progress, and ask leave to sit again. Would it le: right, however, in him (Mr. Hudson) to a u % • The ATTORNEY -6ENERAL hoped the hon. and the hon. member withbeing a perfect drunkard te o ,ai gallant gentleman would not persevere in this amendment. it — Mr. NIUNTZ asked whether the rate-payers were to have An Ilii,i. MEMBER here interrupted the wee by 6 the power of electing the local hoards ? serving that there were not 40 members in the house, Lord MORPETH replied most certainly. The house was accordingly counted, and only 23 re a lm Mr. HUDSON wished to have the Mil reprinted with being ostcrtotot d to be present it was .d . the amendments proposed or adopted by government, so that the house and the country might know how the matter now o'clock until this day. stood. Viscount MORPETH said he had endeavoured to explain the bill in its new form. Lead O. IiEN'fINCK su pported the propneition for having the bill reprinted, before the hew..., proceeded to dis cuess.iit. I s n I i t s n nt remodelledp i a .. .l i t: ne .. upon his amendment. Mr. SLANEY said that if the workirg e laves knew the manner in which a measure so vital to their interests diminish was thus impeded in the house, it would ten d much to tlii ir reeisect for the house. Lord (1. lIENTINCK would, at all event', call upon the noble lord at the head of the government to state, simply and ir clearly, how the bill now stood. It. INCILIS called upon the house to proceed with the bill. lead J. RUSSELL sail they only asked the committee to go on with the bill. The new clstiwis would be printed for the consideration of the house. I Lord G. lientinek : Explain them.) He thought it would he quite wrong to enter into explanations, and thereby serve those who were des:rims to create delay. Lord O. BENTINCE. denied that he wanted to create desay. The noble lord did nut appear to understand his own hill. There were in it 141 clauses, and they now only re quired explanation of one of them, and even that they could not obtain. Was there anything unreaeona ble is asking for a delay until the explanation wax given Sir E. N. BUXTON was sure the noble lord would be acting up to the feeling of the house if he proceeded with out delay. The CHAIRMAN then put the 2nd clause. Some con versation eneurd upon mints of detail, after which the clause was agreed to. Clause a," Act to be applied, &c., by orders in council," was struck out of the bill. Clause 4 being proposed, Lied MOItI'ETII moved that in lieu of the proposed board of commiseionen the President of the Board of Trade and two other., at her Majesty's pleasure, be nominated to be commissioners under the bill. The Earl of LINCOLN suggestedthat the fourth and fifth clauses should be postponed. Lord MoltPleT II looked upon these clauses as integral portions of the bill, and did not see how it was possible to postpone them. Toe Earl of LINCOLN said that he and other hon. mem bers were of opinion that the clauses in questioa were objec tionable, and he, in particular, eine cted to the appointment i of an independent and new board. Ile should therefore move that clause 1 be poatp ined, and if this was opposed by the noble lord he would diside the committee on his motion. Sir It. INO LIS, in referecco to some observations which had fallen from Mr. Hudson on the: question of postponing the 4th clause, said—No one, sir, can pay more respect to the aristocracy of birth, the aristocracy of talent, or the aris tocracy of character thin I do ; but 1 hope I shall never pay y any respect to the aristocracy of wea s Jrsoo times as r ich lth ; and liecaure ao member of this house may . be 50 time to I may be— Mr. HUDSON ( int erru p ting)— I never said anything about that. Sir It, INGLIS-1 will never on that account allow him undisputed by me to assume to have 50 or 500 times the influence. (1...ud cheers.) I never willingly offended any man (hear, hear) ; but 1 must be al lowed to remind the bun. member for Sunderland that he shall not shall take hi t e te man who shall instruc I shall t be. me lsileot or as to what when I 1 I the man who shall initruct me as to what part 1 I shall t*kc iii thou house, when ' shall speak. (Much cheering.) I have eritfeavoured to call', the attention of the house to the duty of passing some mea yt—that 1 s q u i r te e mot ofsa o d i e t l az r u efo i rm t ap , p a e n a d red l t i o ir i m it e e , ste in d ju a ri g o l u ins i. t d v e o l i n reason I rose an hour ago, and should not have taken another opportunity of addressing the hues ~ but for that which I munsider the unrovoked aack ade nme by the st hon.co mem ber for Sunderl Ind tt . t Hear, h s.ar .) lam actuated by no ill-will to that hon. memb.r. I o- I vele° this diecussion, but 1 am ready to meet did his not attac pr k. i (Loud cheers.) M r . HUDSON, who ro se amidst erica of spoke, said-1 have every respect for the hon. member for Oxford, but I did not think it fair, when my Roble friend behind nits asked a question of the noble lord opposite, that the hon. member should get up and attack me. (•' No," and " question.") I do not know what the hon. member means by talking about money. (" Oh, oh.") I beg to say—LThe hon. member at tempted to proceed, but in vain, iu consequence of the in terruptions by which he was met—but concluded by apolo gising to the house for any warmth he haul been betrayed into.) Lord J. RUSSELL—If the noble lord thought it better that the clause should be postponed he had no objection, it being, however, understood how they were to proceed after wards. Without a central authority he did not think they ((add p ro ceed with the bill—(hear, hear)— a nd hc hoped. the noble lord would not object to go on with clause 6, the u nderstauding that the Secretary oh State, or some other ea I authority, should he made the centre of authority afterwards. l l Mr. Isen:W DEG ATE thought time would be saved by re- printio.c the bill before going further with it. Mr. STUART could see no reason for postponing these clauses if the principle was not to be altered. Lord LINCOLN thought it better to poetpone all the clauses relating to the central board—that would be up to clause 11 After some conversation, Cul. SIBTHORP moved that the chairman report pro geese, and expressed his determination to divide the com mittee upon it. Lord J. RUSSELL consented to th e adj orrowournment of the comm ittee, proposing to commence to m (this day) with clause 6. Mr. SPOONER (having been informed by the Attorney- General that the board war to be permanciet) declared that to that he had a decided objection. He conceived that it+ poers shauld e onfined to the formation of and that when those bc districts were firmed its power( [ should ELECTION CONINIYITEE. LONGTolll).—'fhts committee re-ameembled ye*. day; the whole of the day , u p to the period of adjournment, being oecupit d with the argument% of (Amami as 0) da power ofd e committee to rt.-open the regitte-. . _ Vitt Wino% MAILS, Nolll 'V. -Malta will be made up for Madeira, Rinllnritn, temp Ayre', and Valparaiao, to be conveyed by ll.hl. Wearier Gomm. t„; it.ttCrK 1411.1 new .pule rri nowt be cpreially arldrec‘ed, oB F Ky . atearner Gorgon." The Gordon t exported to aai from Devinpr, on the rth inctant. The mail% for Britich North America, and the Coiled Stgc, will he muck up so the evening of the 12th 1114, The Wcet India Malls excluding frenntara, N a ,v,,,,, yh, llondurar, New Orleans, Vera Crux, Tampico, hurl Porto Rim, aai inclinling ihiror for Madeira, Jacruel, Carthage., hint& Marla, Chaves Panma, Mery Guard of south Alliell., awl ',t. Ja.„l,, Nicaragua, will be made up on the morning of the 12th May. The n on, for Vigo, (vino, Lisbon, Madeira, thdir, ad Gite.tat will be made up on the morning of the II tl, Mar. The overland mails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greree, the Irmialtlrluidt, latypt, Aden, (X)Ion, India, Hong-hong, and China, na Soutlamp. ton, will be mule up Ott the mornmg of the 20'.... May. The overlaid chord moils yin Marmeillea, t.l the meoit,,, Egypt, Aden, leylog, India, Hong-Lung, wc., will be law* up ea ga evening of the 24th May. Ihe mails for New South Wales Tan Ihernalibi Land, gal Nu Zealand will be mule up on the evening of the 31st M y. The mad,. fur the %) vet C.avist of Alma and Mfalreir" will be oil up on the evening of the 3lst )toy. The mail- for hie tswils thu Kier Plitt, Monte Vile°, bras bum liAlliA, im, Madr and 11tienon Ape', will te mule up pp pap eTtillUg of the Srd June. NOTICE TO ADVERTISERS. The number of STAMPS issued by the- authuaties etas Stamp-office, during lbl7, to the DAILY NEWS wa5.......... 3,447,009 This, we believe, is within eight per cent of the nacho issued to the Morning Herald, Morning Monkle, sad Morning Post, ALL TUT TOOETHER. In addition to the above. issued to the DAILY NEWS, Morons:, Paper, there were issued for the tereeihy Eden" THE EXPRESS 778,714 Which was more, we believe, than wore issued eitkern the Clots or &Godard, Eveeing Papers. AlOll WATLIt AT LONDON MUGE. Tam Do —liornivy min. rut y &femme., 9 .1.40 M To..sagow—llocusg. 41 4114. 11414 1.11 MM.= .17 mia.pri LONDON, FRIDAY, MAY 12. WE are no partisans of a republic or of univerri. suffrage, and are of opinion that a graduated state d society is the most natural, and consequently the moat durable and fair, provided we allow nature to operate freely in forming these gradations, and procuring for birth, wealth, and talent, to th them. e authorit!, In fluence, and respect, justly accruing Be we must not run away wtth the idea,that a republic= state is necessarily one of anarchy, of disregard of sr. eminence, and hostility to all property. Neither is it fair to look upon the French it public, and the assembly which represents it, as a fair and normal specimen of what a republic via be even in France. Were the French people md tee on to-morrow to choose, by universal suge, members for another' national assembly, being a: the same time perfectly assured that there could best monarchic reaction, but that a republican govemmee was assured and certain—were this the general feel• lug, we are confident that the elections would ban for their result an infinitely more moderate assemble, and one in which the representatives chosen from ate working class would be in very trifling number. The people of Marseilles, in the late election, preferred a street-porter to M. TIMERS. Why ? Became ths first assembly was to establish a republican counts- Lion ; and they returned a representative ad hoc. Its operatives of other towns have done the same. Be were the republic assured, and were the peJple relet upon to return representatives for the more dorms eeda m task of general legisla tion, of arrangin the n g carrying on the domestic administration,and dire the foreign policy of the country, the Frach open. tires themselves would not entrust that task to meet• porters. In addition to its composition. the nature of its dada. and the interests at stake, cannot but give an anim tion and even a turbulence to the sittings of the Se tional Assembly, which may startle the timid. Bt even our House of Commons on the eve of sta which decides the fate of ministers, and which tars• fere power from one section of the house to e a sloths is often the scene of passionate words, awl et feelings. What would it be, was it tot merely Material influence, but the sovertiguty of the coat! itself which members w ere called upon to fit ad dispose of ? In such a task, and at such a women even Saxons could not preserve their hereditallatr, fruit!, and it is to bo dou bted, if the representatives* ten-pounders would be less agitated re than the no hundred boiling u nits of the French public% chamber. The essential point is, however, not the manner, the matter, of political decision ; and this sown, wise as could be devised. As yet the government s the country must be entrusted to men ban s the confia , n i ce of the two parties who ekes the late dynasty--the citizens and the stoti• classes. The Provisional Government wm on this basis, and the interim gov,rnment elected stands upon the same. The leading namer-P, LAMAILT s and LEURC-ItOLLIN —llUftiLieittly bttrii it- Nor could the other three be better tilled qt l6 by the names of MAUI F., An %Go, and G taaYt The absence of NIARRIOT may be regretted, bat, Mayor of Paris, he at present fills suffic , ently portant functions. It must be an object, too, m : withdraw too many debaters and infiaentis llo,- the moderate republican party from the th aeYonat.4 , - o • e d e t tatnec cd ountry ult cra ra - demo c ra ts declamation,teieta . tii 1 0_ c od,eytfAet a rra y mya fi Tdoctife e rastosr C O t r etstqi min i ster s, l t V t n et; np o l i C ; 1 0 1 l ans i f j confound, and baffle t sense, temper, and nu The closeness of th the proposition of M. rates are in no such s rity, and that their cc cumspection. There a timists in the assemb cotes in such a way I fusion, and bring the a &grant qtvid dam, dangerous clement of that has made a mum But the character remain ambiguous ; of both republiesut have the ttfixt of wa against the common We are glad to ideas so much at is eclipsed—his thre him. The chief de The Austrians seer on the re-conquer land, it is to in this aggressive marching to reds line of the Adige, b trian force is threat trality of Switzerl order to menace the Austrians elect threaten Milan, it French minister coi and vote of the Nat to the liberation of THE miscellaneo ginning to ooze ou' made their appear' be required under The expenditure a 1845 was 85,454/. it WU 93,115/. 'I tore of 1848 will I The items of head are the anal petty in itself to plicati verifies t little makes a mic defies criticism, c street, who arem In short, this is which a satisfs hoped tor. Ile renris( for I 17 th The civil list is included among sum of 2.4;:1t. fo the household, These expenses r adding to the hospitality by tl lain ha, dray " furniture ha collars, badges, orders," and ev the Life Guard Master of the HI fuge of the desti Luses of the )i EININGE?i, and visits to this col Under the he conveying per* sum of 7,594/. to, or comitn b e i n g passed, settlement, frog are also a num% ferior colonial cite a ish tha annual colonial present it is . in of the colon ic s through half-a cost of the Cole and in a third we turn to th colonial expe* the colonies 1 country. The successfully c various accout sire of concea ness-like prac The chinch contributes is up additional corners. Ac the transport . New South Good Hope, among the gencies. In 1,200/. " die epiecopalian asssistance ;" J ERUSALEM "tor the et and hie chat One set o a system of letters pater for various these jobs the diocese • dioceses." the colony the " revol their pocke contrived t• 981. by one Commies the amount one half c to gain tint reforms. the deficie the Towel 9591. to short-hand and 71. 16 the conve:, outbreaks gether th wish thee ciently a• light upon parch 1 11 I v 11, 1' 111:‘ . . . : , .\ i 1 1 I . i 1 1 ' ! i i ! I : I . , 1 1 (si t r . 0. 0 f D u le ure sk . ) l aware the hw $' AIMS who wen there treated in o -.. N o thing Wind i state of things il SA D. DUNI :LA praise lion° After a few s read a second ti ... committee. lii 1 4 bin G. GRE 0,1 Aliens Bill. . . . 'Piss Rail of v., the house au .......in„nishea 1 o honourable to ni ti minister —language which showed that he really Mai at nesrc, - II at whatever risk it might hew himself, the maintenance Was notOrlOns enin. ..... :-.._ . ness was to get up revolun?os, and that many of th, ra nau re of amicable relations betweeu these two countries—(ctieurs) come mar to this country. .1 he hon. getdleman had taunted at thin sour 050..........-_. _. _ le —whose amity and friendship are of such benefit to Vie the noble lord _w ou tl id T g . the te support of his side of the it was too late to iutruduce a new measure Os sue...- it world—whose discord and whose quarrels can never take the moderate repuonos.. ~...,...; I. place without the ;yeah:Ft calamities to Europe send man- 11 ." ) : ( l e o T.". qen e rceollec 10 1 thet circumstances ex- ist wh i c h induced p eens on th mules 01 the house.to Sir G. GREY observed that the hon. member for Sunder- for there is little doubt that, to imitation of tberi-; - er kind. (Loud cheers.) I think, howee, utter what has land (Mr. 'Hudson) was not in his place in the early part of Narvac u itn in protecting the institutions o the countri to which Loy happened in different countrioa of the contnt, atter the ft t. ~1 - h . o the evening when it was anangcd that the tonner bill should I better itch( h•piopc of t e country were unalterably attaclord. be f the government and the mix , mum rs o .ly rapid successiou of r evolutions which . we har t ev en , and with , be withdrawn aud a new hilt iatroduced. lied the hon. I ge"e`o prints of fhe t ouse elivisied.—For the third reading .. 116 deba'e all fit , : uncortainty.that at privet.t prevetla, it is ht—it is Wiee • • ,)„ regulatio-.3 of the convention and the Americoft ,„ member been proant, he (Sir G. Grey) was sure he would Will be excluded from the .• . ..... e. ,... decree ere Against it r.) to take precautaon.s against occurrences that ma) happen. I " —l f' not noW interfere, as it was desirable the new bill should be It is a token at once of LAMAUTINE , MVP: sterling. The bill then named. en sincerely trust they may not happen. I sincerely trust that read a second time on Thursday next. and 20 the tot those who wish to destroy all order, to put an end to all pro- rUBLIC lIBALTII BILL. After some further di•eutision leave was given to bring in UN as his colleague. lt is an essential pg .- cent. per a ,I n party, and to ground the fature condition of the world upon On the motion for going into committee upon thieloill, the bill, and it wa.s nem rdi. gly brought up. On the motion .. • . low the elliv : I, I une 1 ant some dream Pf Phihoithrollo Perhaps ; but m ore likely Col. SI BILLOW? said he hoped the hill would be re. that it be a read a tird time, I printed, in c onsequence of the extensive alteration which he Mr. HUDSON again objected, and called upon the hon. t h e po lic y en tne mouerates not to al ~ , cod feeling, his insisting on preserving Ws., will be re ion upon some political plan a plonder—(Louil cheers)—lieu of the ,st trust that those persons may never be aide to stocceed either understood ass made in it. member for Salford to discharge his duty by moving the ad. pretext or banner that could enlist or Talc:: tional is ▪ in in France, in Germany , or th - ally other r country, Mr. J. STUART, in r eference to what had fallen from journment of the house. (Cries of " oh, oh.") lie (Mr. operative clasees in their favour. To divide fil . mocra.a a fair plea for insurrection, or inlise„;.. par, i n u ] the and that we May not have to dread the evils him on a preview , occasion, begged to state that he was in Hudson) was not to be put down by .• oh, ohs." Those hot ion which might result from the peeler" of these error in attributing the authorship of • pamphlet. from very important bill, and he r equired some e xplanation as to whatever .ed, emissaries anmegat us. (Chen) Still, Ido think that, which he quoted to Mr. Chadwick. In anything he said on who were ti be the commiesioners uo.der it. Re looked upon me isle should be the first cue of time entrustedelte', Thil wa s • intentioned and hottest from the profesoional 5!.,",,, value in i Lena iu the present aate of EatoPe , it u seise to yoke some p r e. that oc casion he did not mean to speak disrespectfully of that this proceeding as a sort of juggle betwee.n the government govern . junta, col ea, cautions egaiest the o ccurrence of such a thing. (Ileac, g entleman. and the hon.liaronct (Sir J. liautner) ; hut if the names of the the mmtstry is a guarantee to the yeti o 61 irttio Or! . Property , Lest . , Lear.), lam suo I shPil he hfifik Peotihed—l shall feel Mr. FREWEN understood: that malignant fever existed right bon. baronet (Sir (leo. Grey; and the hon. andleerned own the greatest satisfeeti"-randtagainst any . retrograde tendenci 'es of fir' rOn''' ' ' nt.. And the presence of Lemir-II010:t the p ar te }invent , doutitthewhololiouse in then eighbourhood of the house, and that Westminster the Solicitor General were put on the hack of the bill, it of LooL ever, pre du lt•tulein(ll4. This wise adherence sure will concur in thet .1.14.5. A. +., ca. "7 that it is no School was broken Up in consequence. This teem was at- would show that the government were responsible for the 600,000 i b ins lodge neaseisary to bring forearil mit measures of restric- tributed to the Dean of Westminster's conveying some cora- measure, and be shoot.). not object to . the fir.t reading. the bond titu- tion ;feet o ur course fa the future will lie only the coo side- position into the sewer by way of im p and prevent- Sir G. GREY surd that ehts was iropo,o ~ ole as the house a lees amount of votes than that given to . ... accordim to I,EDRII-ROLLIN has nevertheless Oyes thg' r. . that rayon of nn..isures of relief, Molieures of ionprovemcoot. ing infection. (Laughter.) If sanitary improvement+, such had already ordered the bill to he brought in by the hon. other partes, This is meant as a eintnig w Is fixed t tifne, (, heel%) 4,44. it i 4 not our duty to bring forward any cos were c ontemplated under this bill, were persevered in, the baronet (Str J. Itemiser) and two other hon. members, and etAILTINE. Mr. b Ils to further measurt of. this kisid. ksivipleuse.) We feel, a' a doctors would soon make their fortunes, it had been so brought le. Ile would, however, state that Spanish they goveininen4 Vet ft le hot on.drheAale "d P , iintul task Al After a few words from Sir C. Bu KRELL, the house went government would give ever 3• assistance to the passing of lately pi ment hive to bring or anii)a meloartris. . (Dear, hear.) At into committee. . . . the out. • • likely to be decreed a present in the way , • leads me hear the name tide, ilisidiet* of the crash is c ommitted to ti e. Lord monVETII mod that on a former occasion, tu re- After a further conversataon the bill was rem. a first tiole, patios can , • be permanent. The country a eu t s , towards tative 'The businesais dminsitratioafroosettay to day, in the present ply to the hon. member fur Oxfordshire, he stated that be and ordered to be printed. elements of power and intellect, are 63 . nlo c o the pre a siert:) , ratite of •the f w d orl, is reke4 roppasible task ; (bear, was not prepared to assent to the euggestione proposed by TITHE RBN r CIIARDEE (IRELAND). an d on foot to admit of their • settling doyen "I it , such a We must Om that we do not expect thaottaa26e.t% 11 the Leer) ; .and sa long es We e lect it Tiecos.try to that hon. g entleman. Ile had since tavoured him with a Mr. G. A. IiAMILTON obtained leave to brine t hit I less, bring lOTA-ire • • max m easures .fa • these we shall statement of tho alterations he w ished to make, send as he to alter and emend so much of the act I& 2 Vic „, e . " -n , 56 a - , - as Rum sent do •it.. This .is Alm last .we *- flail have to intro- r ecognised on . all sides of the hse an unaffected sympathy relates to the mode of making tithe nut charge in Ireland Ilarnpal it ' not possible. And however desirablean esKui"., . I ven uce. (Cheep )To the °amen' operation o f t h e or . w i t ty the o b j ects of the hill, d a wish to carry some liabl e to poor-rate poun age , anu also, tr. eurpow sr the doubt the r Chasno oby of dinar): IaW,I! they now be Onnareitted the preservation practical measure into effect—(hear, h ea r )— as the his- ecclesiastical commironers in Irelmol to show p o undage a fi xed tenure of office may he, we do ~ ean z 6 rill do Of the peace of the country. .(Ilear, heer.) The bon. provernents euggested by the hon. member would effect a deducted from ecclesiastical persona on lc m int of poor-rate ehjelir: be:rateg:lrllnieeg °llt eehansslnbeemr M s : be d:!"... 0 . r s 111% and obeying any . perm:nt p er so nal suothoirtiy., . eiw.ed so . hoe of member for the west ritling of Yorleohire hes di n t to out the coesiderable improvement and advance on the present tittle among the deductions from the value t w o o f cee hmastical sirits, to abdicate power for any lag' or - eerag , Which course which he thinks the goveenieent (Ann to take in of the law, aud if not likely to he so immediately beneficial property directed to be made under t', o a d 3& 4 Will. IV., to the orUir to conciliate the affection tof the People Uithis country. es the m easure, as propose , " by the government, would Tetley c. 34, tor the purpose of a and t' ...t thereby iraposad upon it wilt let the more vtiVa and indocile Ito c e of this With regard to some o f -the Me to which he has the foundation for luture improvement,her Majesty's govern- such property.in Ireland. . ... . ......,er the. take pl Ome of tallied we •:".all here occasion tO apeek 'ehen rush nle.e.littS ra.n , , On !'tip considering the emcnatuctits, thought it On the motion that the hgtb'.. do now adjourn, difficulties and rtstvmobthues O f po with good and peacertit effect. Ilvner, A 5 ?WI y.