The Express. — London, England, 1848-04-18 00:00:00

PMMAAMENT. - few words words after what had fallen from his noble friend, whom he heard with pleuure for the first time in that house, and who was entitled to its attention as the descend ant of the great and ill us trious name which be bore, and to the recollection of which no one was more fondly t th ande p affreec tionately attached than he. (H ear, hear.) Bu sent bill was not only a lea stringent measure than the one opposed by the late Lord Holland, but the circumstance , under which it was brought forward were totally different. Besides, in the speech wi t h which Lord H o ll a nd prefaced his protest, he stated, not as his sole objection to the bill, out as a principal sine, that it would favour the views of the H o ly Alliance. Ile maintained that every society was enti tled to prevent the interference of foreignees in its concerns. The fact that a noble and learned lord (Lord en coman) itu , who tion w a s eminent for his attachm ent to the law a D nd nst of this country, :autl who* joined Lord Holland in hop is poti. tion to the former Alien Act, had publicly declared within the last three days his conviction of the necessity of this bill, removed all doubt from his mind with respect to the objec tions entertained by Lord Holland. The bill they were now proposing was only a temporary one, to exist for one year. lie was not desirous that it should become the permaent law of the land. (Hear, hear.) lie prayed God it might never be more than a temporary expedient, which was justi fied by the state of things existing throughout the world. (Hear, beer.) Lord ABERDEEN said the bill would in fact continue for two years, because it was for a year or to the end of the next session of parliament. The bill then pulsed throuch committee. ELECTION RECOONISANCES BILL. Lod MONTE.kO LE proposed the second reading of this bill. The main object of it was to empower the election committee to inquire into the validity of the recognisance. As it was a bill relating to the privilers of the other house, ho hoped their lordships would not oppose it. Lord BROUGHAM objected to the bill on the ground that while the existing law enacted that the determination of the examiner of recognisances should be final and can elusive, this bill would give a power to a committee of the House of Commons to set it aside. lie had no objection that the matter should be sent back to a committee. It might be wiry well to alter the law prospectively, but he objected to their passing an ex pool facto law on the subject. He thought the House of Commons mistook their atm p 1 roper ... . .orsc. Ho smut', that t h e hill ba ton a scowl Tim e i - .... that day six ... t he.... Lord REDESDALE supported the second reeding. He thought it would be a most ungracious thing on the part of their lordships' house if they wer to say, " You are in • difficulty, get out of it as you can e we mill Lot help you." (Hear, hear.) Lord CAMPBELL said that but for the present bill the petitioners in the eight cases now pending would clearly have a right to proceed under Sir R. Peel's act, which made the certificate of the exami ner of recognistmces final. Against this certificate the bill gave an appeal, to the most objectionable of all tribanals—the election committee. After the proper officer, Mr. Booth, had declared the recooisances in certain cases good, the house had no right to assume that they were bad, as was done by this bill. The question was one which ought to be referred to a court of law ; and on that ground he felt that the present bill was objectionable in principle, and would move that it be read a second time that day six months. Lord STANLEY, while admitting that there were grave objections to the bill, thought it the only method of c,eaping from a dilemma and supplying a rams ontissus in the former act, which had not been anticipated at the time it was passed. The main consideration for their lordships was how to do substantial justice between the petitioners an d the sit ting members and to carry out the intention of the legislature. Ihe LORD CHANCELLOR concurred in thinking this a must objectionable measure, contrary to all the rules of . law and principles of justice. The existing act prescribed all that was to be done by petitioners. They had strictly complied with the act, and it would be moat unjust to re quire them to do more. The Earl of DEVON denied that the bill would affect any parties who had complied with the provisions of the ex isting act. They had net so complied but, by an over sight of the officer, had obtained a certificate that they bad done so. Lord DENMAN said the examiner of recognisancis bed performed the duty imposed on him by act of parliament, and to attempt, by a new act, to set aside Lis decision, would I open a wide door to abuse. Ho felt bound to oppose the second reading of this bill. Lord BROIJOHAM said a few WOTIII in exilatiation. The Muse divided.—For the second reading .. 19 Against it .............. 9-10 The house then adjourned at half-past S o'clock. the increased importation of foreign copper, which increase he was anxious to effect by a reduction of duty, notwith standing that the revenue might at first be diminished in consequence. lie showed that while the importation of cop per from Chili into France, and Hamburg, had increased since 1842, it bad decreased in this country; and that smelted copper, instead of being imported from Engl mil, was now imported from Chili, and that consequently while the exports from this country had fallen off, they had increased f rom Chili. He corroborated this statement by a refers ace to the exports of England to France, which in 1815 were 7,000 tons, and in 1817 only 3,700 tons, while the im portation into France from Chili of the same des cription of copper had increased in 1815 200 tons, and in 1847, 1,100 tont He also referred to a letter, dated lest December, from Mr. Petro, our consul at Philadelphia, and who had been a member of that house, in which he stated that already two large smelting companies had been formed there, and that others were talked of. lie was, therefore, anxious to du in this ease as bad been done in that of foreign wool, to which he thought it parallel. Mr. LABOUCHERE contended that the refine:lOn of these duties would give a great impulse to one of the most valuable trades of this country. As to one own copper miners, employers and employed, they would always enjoy a most efficient protection in the heavy freight of copper ore from foreign countries . Mr. ROBARTS supported the amendment. Mr. CARDWELL could not understand what object could be attained by a committee. lie strongly advocated the proposed rerinsion of the duties on articles which formed material ingredients in some of our most important exports. Mr. MUNTZ advocated the entire remission of the duties. Mr. WYLD said that the copper trade in England was a complete monopoly, and the sole smelt ing•place was the coal field of Swansea Bain. The reduction of duty would only increase the monopoly that already existed amonest the cop per companies and by no means benefit the Birmingham workmen ; and, entertaining this opinion, he should support the motion for a committee. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD would vote for the proposal of the right hon. baronet. the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. GLADSTONE said, that however zealous and ear nest particular individuals might be in advocating the principles of free trade, they always found their own postai s in trade or commerce to form exceptional cases, and the present discuss i on afforded more than one Proof .... one truth of this observation. If try branch of trade was exempt from the general class of objet tions urred against free trade, it was that which was carried en in metals by England, and in his opinion this trade would suffer less than any other from the reduction of pro tective duties, for it was a pursuit eminently adapted to the genius of Englishmen. It was, in his opinion, the beet course to adopt without any alteration the proposition of her Majesty's government. Lord G. 'BENTINCK opposed the proposal of the govern ment, because it was one of a bad gang of measures ; because it proposed to admit into competition with naive produce the produce of other countries. The Chancellor of the Ex chequer was about to sacrifice 40,000!. more of revenue under a deficiency of 4,000,0001. And this sacrihce was to be made . in favour of copper ore, the product of slave labour in Cuba. The admission of foreign ore for smelting into England at a low duty would throw out of employment 21,000 families. Al though he needed no committee to prove the impolicy of the free trade iiroporals of government, yet as he had not the op tion of meeting the motion More the house by a direct nega tive, he should certainly vote against the motion ot the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. TURNER supported the motion of the right hon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer, because it was necessary to get rich ore from abroad to mix with the poorer ore of this country, in order to obtain such an article as wa s wanted for manufacturi n g p ur p oses ! - M r . RICARDO said that in 1839 forei g n copper ore was allowed to be introduced into this country, and to be smelted in bars free of duty, and the result was that more English ore was used then in previous years. The amount of ore raised in England in 1842 amounted to 11,245 tons; in 1843, to 11,593 tom; in 1814, to 11,850 tons; while in 1839 it amounted to 12,468 tons. h it d not attribute much, therefore, to the argument that persons would be thrown out of employment. The arguments used in the present case were similar to those which they had heard with respect to wool, and he predicted the result of a re duction of the duty would be the same in both eII:CP. Mr. HENLEY would support the motion for a committee. Th e inconsistencies of the hon. gent leman who supported the notion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer proved to him that a committee was desirable. The hon. member for Bir mingham admitted that the admission of copper hail ruined his constituents, and because that was so, he turned round on the Cornish miners, and said that he would ruin the m . (Laughter.) He (Mr:Henley) would not act on any such principle. He thought there must be some influence behind the curtain to induce the Chancellor of the Exchequer to throw away 40,000/. at such a time. (Hear, bear.) Mr. WILSON said tha t if the averagequality of foreign ore was 21 per cent. , it w o uld be impossild q e for this country to compete with foreigners, because the average of Cornish ore was only 8 per cent. It should be recollected, also, that there were many branches of industry into which the con sumption of copper largely entered, and it would he bene ficial for them to have the duty removed. lie should, there fore, support the motion. The house divided.-- Ag For the mot i on Against it The house then went into committee. Mr. GLADSTONE said that he had a motion of some importance to offer to the house with reference to this question, but should defer it until the committee en the bill. Meanwhile, he wished to know whether government would be prepared to take a similar murse to that now pro posed with reference to tin ? The CHANCELLOR of EXCHEQUER had received no representations on the subject of tin, and, therefore, did not see any immediate necessity for ouch a reduction. Lord G. BY moved that the Chairman report progrem. The committee divided—For the motion l3 Against it The resolutions were then agreed to and the house re sumed. ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL. In answer to a question, Mr. ANSTEY atonal his inten tion of proceeding as far as possible on Wednesday with the above bill. GRAND JURY CESS (IRELAND). Sir W. SCOIERVILLE obtained leave to bring in a bill to remove difficulties in the appointment of collectors of Grand Jury Cesa in Ireland in certain cases ; and to remove doubts as to the jurisdiction of the divisional justices of the police district of Dublin metropolis relating to the recovery of poor rates, and other cases. LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND) BILL. Sir \V. SOMERVILLE moved, that the select committee on Landlord and Tenant (Ireland) Bill consist of twenty one members, and to name the said committee i Sir NV. Somerville, \lett. Castlereagh, Sir R. Ferguson, Mr. Piney, Mr. Clements, Lord Courtenay, tho Lord Advocate, Mr. M. O'Connell Mr. French, Sir J. Young, Mr. 0. Gore, Mr. G. A. Hamil , ton, Mr. P. Scrope, Mr. Drummond, Mr. Napier, Major Bhickall, Mr. NV. Fagan, Mr. Mansell, Mr. Adair, Mr. M. J. O'Connell, and Dr. Power. The motion was agreed to, and the house adjourned at VOTES ON THE CROWN AND GOVERN MENT BILL. Sir,—l shall be much obliged by your mentioning jin your next number, that I paired off on the main division of Friday night against the words "open and advised Pinsk ing " in the third clause of the bill for the security of the crown and government, with Mr. Hudson, having, front being unwell, been obliged to leave the house at the time.— I am, B_n :L April 17- , 1 4 ' 11 11, 1 : . 1 1 1 ' I i I 1 * 1 . i 1 s . 1 : 1 ! . i , 4 I. 1 Ii 11 ' II I I 1 1 i i. 11 ' 1 I ,/ t 11 / i I I I 11 ill Vitt )41ttgio• MAILS. The overland mails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian I•Mniiro Eggpt, Aden, Ceylon, ladle, Hong-Kong, and China, via Soothe:sp. ton, will be made up en the morning of the 20th April. The malls for British North America, and the nitwit cows, will be made up en the evening of the 21. t April. The overland cloned mails, rid Marseille:, to the Mediterranean, Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, India, Hoag-Kong, len, will be made up on the evening of the 24th April. The mails for Vigo, Oporto, Lisbon, Madeira, Cadiz, gad Gibraltar nil be made up en the morning of the 27th April. The mails for New bouth Wales, Vali Dientan's Land, and New Zealand will be made up on the evening of the 30th April. The mails for the West &last of Africa aid Madeira will be mode up on the evening of the 30th April. The West including Bermuda, Nassau Ilavann asaadd Honduras, New Orle,ms, Vera Cruz, T am pico, and Port o excluding those fur Madeira, Jovel, Carthagena, %Bata Martha, Chaves, Panama, West Coast uth Amencit, and st. Juaade Nicaragua, will be made up on the evening of the 2nd May. The mails for the Brazils, the River Plate, Moats Video, Pernam buco, Bahia, Madeira, and Buenos Ayres, will be made up on the evening of the 4th May. • NOTICE TO ADVERTISERS. ml The nuxr of STAMPS issued by the authorities of the Stamp-ofliee, during 1847, to the DAILY NEWS wa5.......... 3,447,009 This, we believe, is within eight per cent, of the n umber issued to the Morning Herald, Morning Chronicle, and Morning Poet, ALL PUT TOGETICER. In addition to the above, Wined, to the DAILY NEWS, Morning I'aper, there were issueefor the y Evening Eddies, THE EXPRESS 7B 714 Which was more, we believe than-were issued either to the Globe or Standard, Evening ' Papers. TO OORRESPONDENTS. tisemeote istesated ter re. Zrpnat,' Luttoo ettnialt papr, , V o, • A4vrr be at the tam 10, Isoomie.treet. 07 Tloosolool, ‘ Ol,ll . 4./ ,4 11100 WATER LT LO2IIION 11ISIDGI. Dli—lioroln, ola. port 2 ; 21 TO *Olt ROW —llaollag.llB Ws. pea 2, Mtsreses. et mi. 04 LONDON, TUESDAY, APRIL 18. WORSE by tar than the exceptionable provisions of the Crown and Government Security Bill are the bl an di s hments by which ministers have sought to tlpryee shade the House of Commons t o pass it. When promised that if the hous e would onl y pass their ha they would limit its operation to two y ears, they con fessed that it could not be defen ded b y fair argunt,t They as good as said to the opposition "your objec tions to the measure are well founded; but do be complaisant as to let us have it for two little years. They asked for two year. of a law which they confessed ought not to be established in per petuity. But this appeal to t he p oliteness or yielding T THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, APRIL 18, 1818. ---- HOUSE OF LORDS.—MosnAT, APRIL - The Loan CHANCILLOII took his seat at 5 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. SECOND READINGS. —Kettering Small Tenements Rating ; Li- SECOND Cemetery; Bills. PUBLIC BURNES& PETMONe. — Ity the Earl of Mennen, Lord SUNLIT, Earl Foursome, Earl of Ent.INTON, lord Wueascurre, Lore Bucemer, from carious loilfte. of odd Fellows, praying that they might be legal. imed.—Lord Bloconstw, from an individual 'Mose name was not Mord, against the Election Recognisance's Bill.—Lord Ilavaurros, from a piece not heard, against the game laws. cMMIITEES.—ItemovaI lof Aliens; Lem. of Mines (Ireland); Bees. CRIME IN IRELAND. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH rose to move that a re turn up to the 14th of March last of the arms registered in Ireland be continued to the 14th of April ; and he would take that opportunity of putting a question to the noble mar quit (Lansdowne) of which he had given notice a few days ago. When the noble marquis laid the return up to the 14th March on the table, h e accompanied it by stat in g that the Anna Bill had proved efficacious for its purpose, and that arms had been seized and surrendered in the country, but yet it had nit been applied to the city of Dublin. They knew, however, that its Dublin arms were being manufac- tured, and numbers of people were exercising themselves in ' military oganisation, for p u r e hostile to the government of the country. In proof of the spirit in which this menu- facture of anre. was going on he might be permitted to read ! a paragraph from s newspaper of which Mr. Mitchell, of un- ' enviable notoriety, was the editor. It stated, with reference to the arming of the people of Dublin;—" The Irish people, or a competent number of them, will simply continue so to arm, openly, fearlessly, zealously , wit h p assionate ardour and with fervent prayer morning and evening for the hoped hour when that organisation may find itself reeve in battle array, and when those arms may find them idea plunge din the heats' blood of their enemies." It then went on to say that the sole enemy of Irelan d was the go vernment of England in that country. Now what another was the conduct of that govern ment ? It appeared from new-paper paragraph that the unduerscluatel of Try College were enrolled in a defensive corps, but emu were only to be given to them in case of an actual outbreak. slow e:uld the govere: . ..,,, a spect to 5e .. : .., eel in such a conflict if the ieeptiffil y .en of tome .. .....Tewed hostility to the govern- ment of England and Iceland wu not to Le prt vented,—if they were allowed to arm and diecipline themselves, and those who were anxious to support and maintain that go• vemment were not to be provided with arts? If no prepara tion was to be made for defence white the enemy was getting ready to attack, those who wished now to aid the government in maintaining peace and order would be disheartened, and then they would not be able long to depend on their cordial gap- pert. Oa the contrary, they would begin to entertain tie question of cornpromiee which ( H a s a ed eaz 0f,.) whe If n the gm no some I promise "mid take place. h verninent showed a want of resolution they would most surely find there would he a falling-off of their supporters ; and they must maintain a t all hazards everything connected the w ith the union. (Cheers.) He was unwilling to press subject too prominently forward; he only wished to know distinctly what were the intentions of the government, and he wools', therefore, conclude by putting the question of which he had given notice --namely, whether it was the in tention of the government to extend the provisio of the Crime and Outrage (Ireland) Act to the city and coonty of Dublin, or to bring in a measure to amend that act The Marquis ot LANSDOWNE said there could be no objection to the return for which the noble earl had moved ; but his object undoubtedly was to procure more information on a very important subject. (Hear, hear.) He hoped the house did not believe that her Maje.tv's government or the government in Ireland were indifferent to those cir cumstances to which the noble earl had alluded, —and which were no doubt to a certain extent founded on fact—of • preparation in Dublin, and other parts of the country, hostile to the government. Not a week or a day had puled in which this state of things had not been the subject of incessant and anxious communi ca ti o n between the gov.rument of Ireland and her Majesty's goverament. There could not be a doubt that the act which their lordships had passed this year enabled the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, at his discretion, to put its provisions in force in any part of any county or city in Ireland when he might find it neces sary to do so. (Bear, hear.) He was bound also to state. that be thought it essential to the peace and good govern ment of Ireland that the power so entrusted to the Lord- Lieutenant of Ireland should be exercised on his discretion only. (Hear, hear.) Ile was the fit judge both of the time, the place, and the mode is which the power of the goeemment should be put into action—(hear, hear); and he and not think that house was the place, if any part of Ireland HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAT, Arlin. 17. woo to be brought suddenly under the operation of the act—he did not think that house was the place in The &mutes took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINE-Ss. which it was consistent that such a proclamation ihould be REPORTS CONSIDERED.—Patent thevanieed Iton Company announced (loud cries of " hear, hear'') • he thought it (lounrporation of Company, with powers to bedlam's, to Lisa money r should come at once and direct from the LOrcl•Lientenamt. by loan, and to purchase letters patent) •, Tadcaster and Halton LS sl (Hear, hear.) It was well the public should know that in Turnpike Road (lbversion, art. of the Rood in the pariah of ad many instance the statements to which the noble earl had cuter); Billo. referred—athough to a certain extent founded in fact—were TIDED 11EADINGS.—Follatone Waterworks ; porch of Scot land Fire and Life Asourance Company (Incorporation of company ; greatly exaggerated. (Hear, hear.) Ile might Five an in- Worcester New Gas Light Company (Additional Capital and Amend. stance or two for the satisfaction of their lordships and the meet)—Belts. public. A noble earl, a large proprietor in Ireland, and PUBLIC BUSINESS. well known to their lordships., had received a communica. PETITIONs.— Br Ca. TtloLl+4ol, from Sunderland ; Lord D. on to the effect that the whole of a large plantation belong- r°,°‘..T , from a public meeting of di. l',ll?c,eAlsandoo i Ml' : 8010 , . lagto him bad been cut down for the purpose of being con- ~ ,?.Tt " ,i ; ',l , 2o e , ,,t uetg e ; eilL. favour t fro he m pe t i j e ' arte , fi r — . 5 1f,; inere " . : f g e T„, verted into pikes ; hut on going to the spot he found that 0 ...,,,,, ... k „ . ; the d., bk. cee .„ , from shech.;,.eugh,h, emwegeheee not a single tree or even a bogh had been touched. Then, In Scotland ; agninst establishing diplomatic relations with the Court again, the Lord Lieutenant b a d received what appeared to of Rorne.—Mr. IL BERXELEY, from Bristol Mr. noose vs, from be authentic information that on a certain line el railway individual clergymen ; for such reform in the discipline of the church every blacksmith had felt his regular buiness and was ee,_ w o uld Prf.,.,• 2e, ee t t , erectel op ef oet.ert6;:rnoee. as tine engaged in making pikes. Upon inquiry, however, he .47 . 7. ,„,,,..-7 . ..„ -- from place. ire Ireland, for a repeal found that not a single smith was so empleyed. lie did of the usion.—Sir J. Y. Be LULU. from u plane in Devonshire, for the not wish to remove the just apprehensions which their lord- pardon of Frost, Williams, and Jones.—Mr. G. T 110,11,404 from ships entertained from a belief that the evil existed to a great theme; Dr. BOICIIING, from a elects nine' institution; opting the I extent, but he mentioned these facts to caution their turd- crown and Government Security NlL—bard . klanov, from llcrtford, 1 am ships aga r giving an unlimited credit to the statements I % .,t u e z ar ? , 7: fe,gt.treet:fritieeelthtri.louwt iairk /te r. cr.= from i ,, which were from time to time mak. (lieu, hear.) The Perth, against the game laws . — lard Itornae, from a place in York noble earl must see that the conduct of the Lord Lieutenant s hi m ee ,m a t the gem= eitheheadier mu, an d furt h er ...w ee must be guided by infinite caution, diicrimination, and care. to Raman ca tholies. The act which had been pasted by their lordships was clearly SECOND READlNG.—lodemnity MIL applicable to every part of Ireland ; and if any additional ItEPOteT.—Public Works Completion (Ireland) Bill. , power was wanted parliament would doubtless grant it. The ' }I 'O - 110E: r e ' 110110:;n1t:iralt ion saltrarr ter ri nd t ii k l e irio h : .:!..— .. M: , ..., retells common law of the land gave to the Lord Lieutenant, as to the bolds thereon . l the government of this country, the power of seizing any Reuse Coimirs.—Mr. Ile MC postponed, front to-morrow (this day) instruments and any accumulation of arms which were until after the recem, his motion on this subject. obviously intende Ito be used for an illegal purport, and Tier BALLar.—Mr. IL BEREELLY postponed till after the recess his directed to the subversion of the government. ( H ear. ) motion upon this subject. And if the power did not exist to a ne c essary degree for pre- NEW MEMBERS. venting any attack on the government of the country, an Mr. Townies'', for the borough of Sligo, and Mr. H. M. application would be made to parliament for further aid, CuarEte, for the borough of Rye, took the oaths and their which, he thought he could undertake to say they seats. would un hesitatingly grant. (Cheer') The noble earl NEW WRITS FOR DERBY. had referred to the rejection of the services of persons Mr. EVANS moved for new writs for De in the ready to come fozward and amiet in the preservation of order. room of Mr. Strutt and the Hon. F. Gower. The Lord-Lieutenant was r eady at the proper time to avail Mr. MAC KINNON seconded the motion. himself of those services ,• but he roust choose that time at Mr. E. ELLICE , j un., felt bound to say, after perusing his own discretion ; and he (the Marquis of Lenselowne) the evidence of the committee which unseated the late mem. thought he ought not to be ready to place arm, in the hands ben, that it presented a parallel case to that of Yarmouth. of all persons who claimed them. (Hear, hear.) There (Ileu, hear.) In bo th , the freemen were the body proved to was, however, no unwillingness to do so on his part, for have been corrupt ; and there was no more evidence in the within the last two days he had accepted the services of a Yarmouth case to justify its disfranchisement than in the large and efficient body of persons, and arms had been sent Derby. - Ne put into their hands. (Hear, hear.) in Sir J. HANMER said that there was an essential be so sorry to pledge the Lord.Lientenant in- city for punishing all such conAituencies as should be proved J arm all persons making application to him. guilty of corruption, and no longer to act upon the pnuciple The noble earl had alluded to a compromise of punishing merely the members elected by these corrupt taro rumours had been spread abroad, and bodies. He called upon to the government to remed required y &malady, meo mist was mentioned he w as bound to take which as much as any other of the dpol tunity of stating that there could be none. be remedied. It was the determination of her Majesty's Mr. lIUME urged that an equal measure of justice should resist all attempts to subvert the well- be dealt out to ell corrupt constituencies on some uniform . of the country, and with the interests principle, and that while one corrupt borough was disfran government the preservation of the union was chised, another should not be permitted to elect anew (Loud cheers.) Rumours of a compromise, member, as Bewdley was allowed to do. He contended that foundation, had been studiously promul- D er by ought to be placed in the same category with Ireland and this country, in order to create Horsham. It was peculiarly the duty of government to see and the same parties were also interested in to this matter, at a time when so much attention was being 'rt preparations to which the noble earl had paid to the question of the representation of the country. hear.) (Hear, hear.) He moved that the writs for Derby be sus• illAel said the language which the noble pended until a full inquiry had been made into the whole a and attributed to a person called Mitchell, if subject. (Hear, hear.) ;as sedition. It was all very well to say that, The Earl of LINCOLN supported the amendment, and necessary, the loyal inhabitants would be al- expressed his hope.that the neble lord at the head of the go- An themselves, but, meanwhile, the disloyal were vernment would lose no time in inquiring into the matter. themselves with weapons. If training was going It would be clearly a gives injustice to punish Yarmouth, nite illegal. for the Goth Geo. 111. prohibited it . Horsham, & c., if Derby—euilty of exactly the same mal t the union was only sought for by a very ormilices—were allowed to pus impunished. (Hear, hear.) e drove a pecuniary trade by advocating such It was essential for the character of the house m the eyes of the country, that all cases of corrupt election should be visited is of LANSDOWNE said the government no with condign and equal chastisement. (Hear, hear.) In iced the means of preventing training • but he t h e Cast of the now disfranchised bo rou g h of Sudbury, existed only in the noble a nd learned lo rd's ima- previous to the house acting upon the report of the select efe might add to what he had before said that the committee, a special inquiry wag made into the alleged cor e were about to be armed was composed of reptione ; and it was not until the charges brought by the . esthetics. (Hear, hear.) first committee had been fully substantiated by the second' OF REPRESENTATIVE PEERS FOR that the borough was disfranchised. Ile would strongly 1 SCOTLAND. urge that a similar special ioquiry should be made into the f EGLI NTON moved that "Ton matter of the case of Derby. in against the vote of the person assumitig the Mr. CHILDERS, as chairman of the Derby e'ection cons- Colvill, or Lord tai i l l of Oclailtree, being re- mittee, begged to eay that the committee had not teem - inted at the meeting for the election of the 16 mended the disfranchisement of the borough, because, al- Scotland, hoiden at Edinburgh, upon the Bth day of though bribery had been no doubt proved against nine 18 IT, be taken under deliberation by the voters and there was a strong case of suspicion in reference a new to direct such inquiry, and to make such to abo ut' 200 out of the 400 freemen, yet as the constituency the house shall seem proper.' numbered .2,000, 1,500 of these being :101. householders, er words from Lord Caetenstt, against whom there appeared no taint, it had been con at 11.11COMIIE, counsel for the person claiming eidered unjuet to the 1,700 or 1,800 voters to disfranchise Colvin, wan called in, and having been informed theist for the fault of the minority. Ile should, on the same in CR ANeELLOR of the nature of the remlution, principle, oppose the suspension of the write. 'he had anything to urge against it. The learned Mr. AGLION BY supported the amendment, and can t commenced an address in support of his client's tended that a public proeecutor ought to be appointed to • title. After a !bort time the learned gentle. proceed against all constituencies reported corrupt. When in answer to a question frem Lord CAMPBELL, throughout the land there were exhibitions of such gross d not object to the inquiry which the resolution corruption in the freemen, it was no wonder that the or, and a committee of privileges was then op- chartists, or whatever you might call the non-electors, before which the claimant is to attend and endea- should be infinitely dissatisfied with the state of the rep re make out his title. sentation. (Hear, hear.) REMOVAL OF ALIENS BILL . Lard J. RUSSELL said that with reference to this par. Marquis of LANSDOWNE proposed that this bill ticular case the committee had not found that bribery was lan through-committee pro forma for the purp ose of provedupon more than nine persons, although, had the 'Certain araendmenta of a verbal character, and one inquiry been further prosecuted, there were strong reasons •c ft right of appeal to the privy . council. He should for thinking.that the case could be pretty well made out the bill be read a thud time to-morrow (this against a large number of the freemen, Bribery, however, having been proved, as against the agents of the members, lof ELLENBOROUGH said an appeal to the these me mbers , though acquitted of cognisance of the council would defeat the object of the b The bribery, were very prorly unseated by the committee. ^ this country whom it might be desirable to He considered that to thee carts where a new writ was boned, by steamerfuls wer e not respectable traitora the severity with which the committees of the house now .of the lowest class, and to give each the right of treated these matters would have a most beneficial ,appeal to the Queen in council would keep the effect, for the agents of the new candidates council constantly sitting. would be very chary in all probability of again ale Minnie of LANSDOWNE said, that if they were not resorting to means which, if inquired elite>, would only cause respectable traitors " (laughter) they would not be able to their principals to be again unseated. (Hear, bear.) The 'r the expense of such an appeal, hen• gentleman had pointed out that at all events there . Earl of EL ouch :aid he would not op- were 1,500 101. householders at Derby who bad not been clause as it appeared to be useless. shown to have at all participated in the alleged corruption of few words from Lord ROLLAND in opposition to the freemen . . but, admitting their innocence, after what the -hich were very indistinely heard, committee hail stated of the probable extent of corruption exile of LANSDOWNE felt it nieelsary to say a ernong a large body of the mstimency, it certainly seemed highly desirable that there should be some further inquiry bill he would be compelled to Wile his warrant within ten into the conduct of that body before they were again allowed days, or the whole proceeding would fall to the ground. to exercise the franchise. (Hear, hear.) Ile could admit, This was certainly in favour of the subject. (Hear, hear.) however, that the initiation of this inquiry was the peculiar Mr. REYNOLDS thought the hon. and learned gentle duty of government. He had, in 1819, as an independent man had given a satisfactory resson for the substitution of member of the house, quite unconnected with office, taken the six days for the three, but cot why the magistrate up the case of the borough of Orampound, and subse- should have the information lying ten days at his office w a s-' i quently of other rotten boroughs, and he had found that the out giving notice to the defendant. He would propose O- I I prosecution of these cues had involved him in au substitute " two" days for "ton." expenditore of time, which, deeply oocupied SW he now was Mr. HintelE also considered that as soon asthe magistrate with the business of government, he could not now devote was eatiefied that the offence had been committed the war t* the subject. tie thought, therefore, that it would be bet- rant should issue. ter for the noble earl or some other member of the house to Mr. HENLEY was of a different opinion, and contended undertake the matter. He had certainly the other day that the proviso as it stood was in favour of the subject. proposed a bill with reference to Horsham, and he had done The magistrate ought to have the opportunity of consider. so in consequence of the distinct desire manifested to that ing whether the matter charged amounted to a felony or not, I effect by the house. He should, in the present co-se, limit and if within ten days he was not satisfied that it did, it himself to the expression of his decided opinion that th e writ would be at an end; if, on the other hand, be should be of should bea r.) eed until. farther inquiry bail been made. opinion that the offeeee had been committed , he might issue I (hear, hea At the same time, he would remark that it his warrant immediately. (Hear. hews) I would be a proper question fur the house heseafter to coast- Mr. BRIGHT complained that the proviso as drawn was der for how long a period writs should be suspended ; for contrary to the understanding the house had come to on hills might go on in that i houee till the end of July before Friday last. He thought it was but just to the party they got into the other house. This, however, would be offending , that as it now was determined to make his words a matter for future consideraton. lie would r, repeat that, the grounds of a prosecution, he should have notice, and not while he did not think this a cas e calling for aisfranehise. be left in ignorance to repeat the offence. ment, like that of Great Yarmouth, it was a case fully justi. Mr. VALLEY understood the object of all parties the tying the suspension of the writs until further quiry. other night was to secure to the stewed party the earliest Sir R. PEEL hail heard the observations of the noble information of what he was accused of. This would not be lord with great satisfaction, entirely coneutring as they diet done if a delay of 16 days were permitted between the com with his own views after an attentive perusal of the evidence mission of the offence and the Aiming of the warrant. He in the Derby ease. . He certainly thought it quite out of the should move to substitute the word " forthwith" for the question fur the house to imue the writs until there bad been ten days. further inquiry into the matter. He would give no opinion Mr. MOORE was also of opinion that the warrant should at present as to the disfranchisement of the borough, or even issue forthwith on the filing of the information. lie could of the freemen. There were many freemen, it would appear, conceive that the delay might subject the accused to who had resisted temptation ; but there was a manifeet case treachery. It was also essential for the interests of those who for inquiry upon which to found a future opinion. It was might be deluded by seditious speeches into treasonable acts, most essentiol to give the great constituencies a distinct that the earliest intimation of the intention of government lemon and to teach them that the house was determined to to prusecute eheuld be given. apply . the same principle to them as to the small constituen- ?dr. MU NTZ objected to men being kept ignorant of the cies, and to assign to both alike the same punishment for the charge made against them, and thought the warrant should same malpractices. (Hear ) The committee, he perceived, issue i mmediately. This was the more important as the reported that there bad extensively prevailed at Derby, during Attorney•Geneml had, on a former occasion, said that his the past election, a system of treating and of inducement object was to keep men in ignorance of any charge being w hick though not coming under the technical definition of bri- made against them, in order that crime upon crime might ' 'el been denounced and prohibited as practical bri- l eery, oe accumula' n en Ise a intents oleo , the nnlee lord on l eoft... ~...o r, / in The ATTORNEY-GENERAL had ne.e:e fle such state- IS te, egeinst paymeut to electors before, at, or duriog meat . What he had said was, that though the words uttered elections, of head money, or any valuable considetatien, or t on one necasion might not be evidence of a felonious intro payment of whatsoever kind or form, for voting or not inform tion, yet these words coupled with other words used on other voting. It appeared that this system, as an old usage, had Lord INGESTRE said his motive was to obtain some coca:eons might be sufficient to justify a prosecution. largely prevailed at the last election for Derby, there being idea of the expense attending the preparations made for Mr. DRUnIMOND and an hon. MEMBER whose name we numerous cases proved of tenons receiving ;es. a day for Monday the loth inst., in order to show those persons who did not ascertain opposed the amendment. nominal services on nominal s e uemittees, in direct contra- made so great a clamour about the taxes, what he expense Mr. COCKBURN observed that, under the law no n e vention of the statute. (Hear, hear.) He called upon the of such escapades was. stoo when a case of fe was made out before a mis house to carry out the principle of equal justice, which their WELSH EDUCATION. stoo d, he had no option bar on y to commit. The offencescommittees in all the cases entrusted to them, had acted Dlr. lIUME asked Sir G. Grey whether any steps were templated by this bill were political offences against the upon, in t otal oblivion of all party considerations or preju- being taken to remedy the deplorable state of ignorance eovernment ; and it was proper that the power of institut dices. lie would suggest the appointment, by bill, of a which the reports of the commissioners had proved to exist ing prosecutions for such offences should rest with the commnsion to proceed to Derby ; and if this commission in some parts of Wales ? government, and not be loft to private individuals. As he should tend that there hail been a large a mount of corruption Sir G. GREY said that the reports had been placed under understood this provite, the magistrate was not to commit on the part of the freemen, then let punishment take its the care of the Committee of Education of the Privy Conn - unless government lint decided on prosecuting. (Hear, course. Ile trusted that government would giveits Rothe- the the government was very anxious to take some steps in hear.) In that case this clause woe a salutary protection, rity to the appointment of such a commission. (Hear.) matter. and, so far from infringing the liberty of the subject, it was Mr. EVANS recalled to the house that the committee Mr. WILLIAMS staked if the commissioners whe mok a safeguard and a protection. had not in this else, as ia that of Great Yarmouth, recom- evidence and reported on the etate of education in Wales, The ATTORNEY-GENEItAL said his hon. and learned mended die tranchieement. Ile would, however, readily as. understood the Welsh language friend was correct as to the intention of the clause. It was sent to a motion for turther inquiry. Unlees he had some Sir (i. GREY said they had been *misted during the in- most aesirable that the magistrate should have the powe ,by assurance that an etheient inquiry was made he should divide quiry by a competent Welsh scholar. not being compelled to issue his warrant immedi a tely, of the house no the motion. C HARITABLE FUNDS. considering whetker a cam was made out sgainst the accused , Sir R. INGLIS said that the right hon. baronet the mom - M r. Ille ME asked if any bill on this sub,ect was to be ex- and if this was not done within ten days the matter would tier l for Tamworth had shown conclusively the guilt incurred petted during the present session ? drop. hy the freemen of Derby, under the act of the sable lord Sir G. GREY said that the Lord Chancellor was in charge Mr. MARTIN thought eome means should be taken for informing matins against whom proceedings were concern (J. Russell). But the question was ono of proportion, and of a bile, which he would introduce in the other house of plated that they were watched, and theirs peeches taken what the house had to decide upon war whether the num- parliament. THE QUADRANT. down. bar of guilty persons was s o g reat as to, call for the punish ment of the whole constitue nc y of the horough. He believed In answer to a question from Sir D. L. Eveles, The SOLICITOR-GENERAL thought it necessary that there had not been found more than 18 person' guilty of Lord MORPETH said that his learned friend the Attar- a power should be given to the magistrate to interfere in bribery amongst a constituency of 1,600. It ought to be re- soy - General was charged with a bill on the above subject. cases of emergency, though no prosecution would issue until collected that the house was sitting judicially, and in that EASTER RECESS. the government had been consulted. It should be remeca capacity he was prepared to amen that there was net eve- Lord J. RUSSELL, in accordance with a promise given b r eed that the words did not constitute the offence, but were dance though to induce him to deprive the borough of Derby by him to the noble lor d the member for Falkirk on a former merely evidence of it. The offence was the design to over of its franchise. lie, therefore, called upon the house to eveninz, would state the course ho would propose tot he throw the government, aid though the words of one sprees maintain its practice, by ordering the writ to issue. house to follow with respect to the adjournment during the m i g ht clot prove such design, coupled with the words of sub- Mr. STANTON said that Derby was one of tee purest of Easter recess , subject of mune to the progress of the Crown sequent speeches, they mighteeln this respect the magistrate the boroughs, and if the guilty freemen in the recent elee- and Government Security Bill. 14e proposed to move that should have some discretion whether the guilt charged had lion were punished justice would be done, whereas it would the henna should adjourn on Wednesday next uatilthe Setae- been incurred or not. To inform the suspected party that be exceedingly unjust to puliject all the electors to disfran- day following, and from that day until Monday the Ist of his proceedings were watched would afford no protection to chieement by suspending the writ. May. the innocent while it would enable the guilty to ems e Mr. COLVILE said that the borough ought not to he die CROWN AND GOVERNMENT SECURITY BILL. Mr. S. CRAWFORD said one objection ha r d 'been raised, which appeared to him not to have been answered, franchised forth. sake of nine persons who had been proved The report of this bill was brought up. to have accepted bribes. On the motion that it be received, namely, that warrant+ might be issued 16 days after the Mr. MACKINNON supported Ole motion for the issue of Mr. AGLIONBY moved tho insertion of the following words were spoken. Surely the number of days ought to be the writ. clause :reduced. Mr. HUME rose, but was met by cries of " spoke." The And be it enacted, that if any person whatsoever , after the passing The house divided — Ay r es e of this Let, s hall , within the United nimidem or without, compass, lion. member handed the remit of the Derby election pct !- N imagine, invent, devirw, or intend to deprive or depose our most gra. tOri committee to Mr. BRIGHT asked if there would be any objection to cious lady the epicene, her heirs or aucusuors, from the st3le, honour, Dr. BOWRING. who read from the report a passage or royal :name of the imperial crown of this United Kingdom, or o f add a clause to the bill, providing that the powers of the which stated that 2tlo persons had attended in order to get soy o ther of her Majeatylii dominions and countries, or to levy war act should never he put in force, except it the instance of the law officers of the crown ? He should move that words their five shillings a day. That was a su ffi cient answer to against her Majesty, her heirs , or successors , within any part of the the lion. member for South Derbyshire. United Kingdom, in order, by force or coriatraint, to compel her or to that effect he added to the last clause. (Hear, hear.) them at to c h a n g e rc, I n a , , r , or their m,casurnmearrdeTtnocilkti.orittorodreoryto put Mr. A. STAFFORD suggested that as the hands of the ter e The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he was sorry he government and of the hon. member for Montrose were ..! quite full, perhaps as the right hon. baronet the member for oorh homes , or either house or pa l rliament, or to move or stir an yw could not concur in this amendment. The proviso would foreigner or stronger with force to invade the United Kingdom, or have the effect of preventing private prosecutions; but pri- Tamworth had no party to lead, and was other, ice quite any other her StOty's dominions or countries under the obeisance rate persons could not be prevented from issuing the war unoccupied inn spect to public affairs, he would have no of her Majesty, her heirs, or suceeseoni, and such comparainga. rant ; and the consequence of that w o uld, be to cast on the objection to take charge of the measure for purif, ing the imeginanoun invention', devices, or intentions or any . of them, shall government the responsibility of e arrying on, or re borough of Derby, more particularly as he had uttered such etther n e a l f ‘ . l,%' i e t orenylelregytycninwnZeent= X d a tk i ?Cal' e e l; linquishing, private promeutions. magnanimous sentiments on the subject of purity of election. b'e a pprel.eialefl ' "iuZl to be committed to prison, and to be them kept Mr. HUME said, in the case of the Stage Coach Act, the Sir G. GREY agreed that it was the duty of thew who without gas; Of i nainpriae until discharged by due course of law, and government permitted the introduction of such a clause as opposed the issue of the writ to charge themselves with the being con, feted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court this, and if they consented to it in the cam of such a bill task of conducting some inquiry with a view to bringine in before o Web such person shall be Si convicted. to be imprisoned with sa that, surely they could not refuse it in such a case as some measure for purifying the borough of Derby. 'rh o or without . hard latio . iir for sny term not csceeding two years. The A 1 TORNEYOENERAL objected to the clause. the resent. government certainly could not charge itself with such a If the house agreed with his hon. and learned friend in own . Mr. MUNTZ said that where there was spite, as in his task. A COrntilisSiOn might be appointed ti go into an making the offence recited misdemeanor it would be case, it was net the fear of costs that prevented persons from proweutina or persecuting. inquiry on the spot with this view. He hoped that some boa. traversable, and thus defeat the end the government had in Mr. AGLIONBY thought the government ought to step member would feel it to be his duty to come forward with a view namely, prompt prevention and punishment. Another . in to prevent malicious or spiteful prosecutions. specific proposal for that purpose. In the meantime he would objection he had was, that while, under the law as it stood Lord J. RUSSELL said that though there might be good vote against the immediate ague of the writ, although he at present, the power of imprisonment was given without was not prepared to suspend it for an indefinite period. limit, and of nuing to any amount, hon. proposed reasons for leaving a public prosecutor, he did not think it his friend Mr. F. O'CONNOR did not think a case for disfran to limit imprisonment to two years and to abolish the power was desirable that in cases of high treason they should have such an officer in opposition to the ordinary custom. If they chising Derby had been made out. were to have a public prosecutor at all, he might be an o ffi cer of fining altogether. Lord INOESTRE said that all the writs now suspended Mr. HUME . would support the clause as a mitigation of a having j urisd iction in cues of every description. o f to inue, subject to an inquiry into the guilty practices of the voters, and then a bill having an ex post facto effect most coercive taw- . Dr. BOWRINCi thought the utility of a public prosecutor Mr } . O'CONNOR did not see any value in the objection ought to be parsed, fur distranchising all those freemen and ra . • , , voters who hail taken bribes. raised] by the Attorney-Generau. It a party traverse d at t h e Mr. WAKLEY said there was not • word of opposition Mr. EVANS expressed his ti g h t to withdraw his end of one assize, he would only doom himself to eight to this proviso on the part of the zealous and indefatigable months' additional imprisonment previous to its successor. motion. supporters of the government who sat opposite . (Hear.) M lel • and S C • severally d S. UAW VOUD expresso Mr. COLVILE claimed the right of dividiun the house. a i s n ". ' 'NTi He hoped therefore they would consent to introduce the The galle ry was then cleared, and the house divided. [stir The h te o nloi d l i o vi - e n - tin d divi d e d—F oe & t e h e a l: laaar. clause, and not pore all these prosecutions in private bands. 50 For the issue of the writ 43 Sir 0. GREY said, practically the government would Against it SC li LES W IG-HOLSTEIN. Sir W. CLAY brought up the following amendment and • • man ought not to have made a contrary statement. clause : On the gallery being opened, Mr. 13ROTHERTON remembered a case where certain In clause n line IG, to omit, after the word .writicg," the follow- Mr. WHoSON put the following questions to the Secretary lag words, "or by open and advised 'speaking," and to odd the fol. parties desired to prosecute a paper at Manchester. They for Foreign Affairs : Waring clause to the bill, in lieu of the words so omitted i —And be it appealed to the government, and the government refused to Whether any conimunicedon bee been received from the Danish enacted, that if any person shall, at any time after the pissing of this prosecute ; but, nevertheless, the parties proceeded with gosernment, on the subject of the entry of the Prussian tomps acthave been held to bail for a mi sdemeanor in respect of seditious he peewee", into Holstein, and with the object of soliciting the interference words or speaking, and shall be again charged with a second or sub- The. ATTORNEY-GENERAL said if such a case of this country by mediation or otherwise; and whether any sequent offence of a like kind, it shall he lawful for the juatioe or other . existing disputes between Sebleewig-liolstein and the government ut Copenhagent - vent every vulgar trader in sedition from being invested with The house divided—For the proviso.... ..... 49 an adventitious importance . Agsinst it l7O-121 , The hon. member said that the merchants trading with Sir G. GREY said that the hon. baronet's amendment, if Capt. lIARRIS then moved a clause, the object of which the Elbe should be blockaded - by the Danish naval forces, member for Cockennoutb. lie must oppoee the one as be land of pikes and similar hostile weapons. The hon. mem and there were very good reasons for their fears, considering had opposed the other. ber said if one half of what was stated in the public prints I that Altona, which adjoined the free city of Hamburg, was a Mr. BRIGHT approved of the bon. baronet's amendment, of that day was true the government were very culpable in Danish settlement. He had another question to put to the and if a division took place should certainly vote for it. He allowing the house to adjourn for Easter without taking noble lord, of which he had not given previous notice, but thought that government would do better in trusting to the measures to disarm the rebel population in Ireland, The to which perhaps the noble lord would be able to give him good feeling of the people of England than by insisting on all P an answer. By letters received that morning it appeared the coercive provisions of this bill. ike was not a defensive weapon, and it ought to be declared I an illegal one, which was in fact the object of his clause. In has been received by the government a the eepeeted magistrate, before whom he shall be so charged, to refuse to admit occurred whiht he was in office he should have no hesitation blockade of the Elbe, should the Germanic confederation con- aura persona) bail on such second or suesequentebarge. in instantly entering a stole prosequi. Untie their interference between the King of Denmark and The hon. baronet said he considered that his amendment Sir D. L. EVANS reminded the right hon. gentleman his subjecte in Itoletein ; and whether any steps ham been taken, and would answer every necessary purpose , while it would that he was not always to be in office. pre what, by thin government, to secure an amicable eettlement of the Hamburg were in a state et apprehension lest the mouth of inserted at all, should have come in before that of the hon. was to empower the government to disarm the people of Ice- ' that the Prussian troops had teemed the Eider lido the Mr. AGLIONI3Y feared that the only e ff ect of the clause Sir G. GREY said he must be excused adverting at pre duchy of Schleswig-Holstein, which did not belong to the would be to inflict a more serious punishment on a certain sent to the state of Ireland or to the information published I Germanic confederation, and also that into Hanoverian and mass of offences than was intended by the original bill. by that morning's papers, which was no doubt in a great Brunswick troop' had crossed the Elbe rder to join the After some further eonversation the house divided— degree exaggerated. The object of the clause was not Con- Prilasian forces, and to comperate with them in suppressing For the clause the disputes between the Prussian and the Danish people. Against it Had the noble lord received any confirmation of those The amendment conceded by the Attorney-General on • • Mr. DISRAELI thought his hon. and gallant f: fend letters ? previous evening, to the effect th at eaformations must be (Capt. Harris) was justified in bringing forward his proposn Lord PALMERSTON said that the government of her sworn within six days after the commission of the offence, tion ; but atter the expression of opinion which had beta Majestyhad received several communications from the Danish and the magistrates warrant issue within ten days from that made on the part of her Majesty ' s government, and the dm aid Prlissilln governments on the subjects in question, and period, was then brought up. claration that the subject eneaged their daily attention, he he was in communication with both those powers ;to whom Mr. F. O'CONNOR said thatno ene could swear accurately hoped his hon. and gallant friend would not press for a divi. her Majesty's government had intimated a desire that their to words six days after they were spoken. He would under- sion, ae it would be likely to create a false impression upon good offices should be employed in bringing the differences take to report • six hours' debate, even if it were on the the country. existing between the Prussians and the Danes to a in n s ac budget, giving the regular order of the speakers almost Mr. HUME, in an ironical tone, sail he thought it WAS • tory and amicable conclusion. it had been intimated to literally, but he could not do it en the expiration of six days. great pity that the government did not listen with favour to bath those governments that if the good offices of Great (A laugh Ile complained of a law which did not stop a the only suggestion with reepect to the bill which had been I Britain could he of service in this respect, her Majesty's mi. min at once when doing wrong, but literally laid a trap for made by hon. members sitting on the other (the opposition) I nisters would gladly employ them. Ile was in hopes that him, so that be might convict himself. The right hon. benches, especially as those hon. members had ea -reed the this offer would be accepted. Nothing could be more de- baronet might depend upon it that if this bill passed the government in all the divisions which had occurred on the placable than to see the peace of Europe endangered by a tenure of the government was not worth tea days' purchase. measure. He thought the clause proposed would make an question of such a nature as that at us . •ue between the Prus- Mr. AGLIONBY observed, that what had laUen from the excellent finale to the bill. suns and the Danes, and he entertained a hope that hon. memberfor ottma am nothing to do with the Isl • h tad Lord J. RUSSELL said, notwithstanding the ironical tone that clanger might be averted. With respect to any intimation clause under discussion . (Hear, hear.) In his opinion, the of the hon. member for Montrose (Mr. Hume), he (Lord J. having been received that the Darish government would proviso now proposed by ministers, pausing over that part of Russell) did not hesitate to say in male arnest that he wee reeott to naval operations, it was meet probable, ifhoetilities it which related to the issuing of the warrant, went to miti- very thankful and exceedingly grf for the support he I did continue, that the Daues, being strong at ma, would en. gate the seve ri ty of the bill ; but tothe extension of time from had received in this measure from hon. members appetite. hopi.d, peace was maiutained, the ieterruption to the corm and the issuing of the warrant he decidedly objected. The that it bad arisen from the belief entertained that the go- ! mime of the Elbe referred to by the hon. member would not warrant ought to issue immediately after the lodging of the vernment were pursuing a course that WAS louoly called for ' take place. lie had not received any official information of information on oath, because the greater the delay the by the existing state of things. (Hear, hear.) the Prussian troops having crowed the frontiers of the duchy greater would be the di ffi culty in obtaining evidence to con- Capt. HARRIS said, after what had been said he would of Schleswig in a - hostile manner, but it was certainly not tradict the report on which the information was founded, withdraw the clause. improbable that such an occurrence should have taken place He admitted that time should be given to transmit the Mr. lilnnlE said he had intended to have moved to ex in conformity to the information that had been received. report to the authorities, and for them to decide whether a punge the odious words " open and advised speaking '' from Mr. DISRAELI said that by A former treatrEnelend had prosecution should issue or not, but a day or two would be the third clause. Though nothing he had heard had les guayanteed to the crows of Denmark the integnty of the sufficient for that purpose. sened the impression on his mind of the unconstitutional duchy of Schleswig -llolstein as part of the Danish kingdom. Mr. REYNOLDS also objected to the extension of time. character of the bill he would not trouble the house with He wished to know whether the court of Denmark had At present the law required the magistrate to halm his another division, but would reserve his opposition till the called upon the noble lord to fulfil this guarantee? warrant isi all cases of felony instanter, but if in prosecutions third reading. I deavour to cripple the PrUnian commerce, but if, as he six to sixteen days between the commission of the offence (Hear, hear.) lie knew no reason for that support except Lord PALMERSTON was understood to reply that the arising under. this bill he were permitted to withhold it for Mr. DISRAELI was net surprieed at the ironical tone of goarautee stipulated under the treaty of 1720 had beenoalled ten days after the information'he might become a pennon. the hon. member for Montroee at the present moment, when !for on the part of the Danish government. It must, how. He should move to shorten the periodin which the in- he remembered the peculiar and novel position in which the ever, be recollected that the interference of the Germanic formation should be lodged to•three days otter the commis- hon. member had been placed within the last few days. The Confederation had not been offered with the view of conquest, 'ion of the-offence, and that theparrant should issue forth- hon. member was at the bead of a numerous but not very but in order to settle an internal question that had arisen with. well-disciplined army, and he could not complain of not between the Danish government and the inhabitants of Mr. WALPOLE suggested the insertion of the word having sought a - fair field on which to exercise them. Schleswignn. " only " after the mords " open and advised 'peaking," soms (" Hear," and.solaugh.) The hon. member was now really PROJECTED PAUPER PROCESSION. to confine the delay to cases of pro . ken worth. in his Political youth, and fall of the vigour of his new Sir J. Y. BULLER begged to sale the right hon. baronet The ATTORNEY-GENERMe.was willing to •adopt the birth. He was about to enter into a more active career, and, opposite whether he could give the house any information on suggestion as to the word " only ;" but with regard to the with a considerable interval of practice with his new forces, the subject of a projectesi procession of 100,000 paupers to be proviso generally, contended that it was more favourable to he might meet with success. (" Hear," and laughter.) headed by Mr. C. Cochrane on Easter Monday ? - the subject than the bill as it originally stood. No one could The bill was then ordered to be engrossed, and ordered to Sir G. GREY said that three weeks ago he had received desire that charges of this description should originate with be read a third time to-morrow. a letter from C. C. Cochrane, stating that he had a peg- private prosecutors, and if they were to originate with the Sir Cie niREY said that, in order to proceed with the bill, h is anti non too to present to her Majesty, and that it was government it was necessary that they should have time to he musteisk the house to meet to-morrow (this day) at 12 his intention to come down to the Home-office, accompanied consult the law °Seen of the crown as to whether the words o'clock. (Hear, hear.) by a body of petitioners on the 2lth of Apeil, in order to spoken would justify a prosecution ; for this purpose, seeing COPPER AND LEAD DUTIES. place it in his hands. He had, thereupon, Informed Mr. C. that the shorthand writer's report would perhaps have to The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that Cochrane that any address of the nature referred to might des orwarded from a distant part of Ireland to London, six the house resolve itself into committee on them duties. be presented to 'him in the usual course by himself, at • days was not too long. With regard to the warrant, there Sir C. LEMON moved The appointment of a select com tended by a few penons, but that no such document li e'com was nothing in the proviso to prevent the magistrate hieing mince to inquire into the effects of the existing duties on panied by a large number of persons would be received. eit immediately on the information being filed. By the com- the importation and production of copper ores. had also informed Mr. C. Cochrane that it would not be con- mon law the magistrate might withhold his warrant if he The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER resisted the venieut for him to receive any deputation or address during pleased. (Hear, hear.) Yes, he might go on examining wit- motion, on the ground, which he laid down by • reference to the Easter week. He (Sir fin Gee )) had received letters umtes until he should have satisfied himself that a case of the imports of this and other countries, that the maaufac from various poor-law unions, stating that letters addressed felony war made out ; but in prosecutions arising under this truer and workman of this country had a direct interest in by Mr. C. Cochrane to persons of the name of Jones, and others of the name of Smith, had been received at the workhouses, in the ho p e that they would d fin some one of these names in the workhouses. Those letters stated that the petition of the poor was to be presented by the writer on Euter Monday, accompanied by 150,000 paupers, and he hoped those who received them would make every endeavour to accompany the procession. Since that, he had received no information that it was Mr. Coehrane's intention to resort to any such proceeding as the deputation he had referred might be to, and he (Sir G. Grey) thought that that individual safely left in the hands of the police commissioners. (A laugh.) POST- OFFICE COMMUNICATION (DUBLIN). the Mr. G. HAMILTON begged to auk the Chancellor of Exchequer whether it was the intention of government, in consequence of the acceleration of railway conveyance be. tween London and Dublin, to make any arrangement for the transmission of letters for Dublin by any afternoon train, so as to afford persons in London who receive letters from Dublin in the morning, the opportunity of answering them, and of the answers reaching Dublin the following morning ; or of otherwise ate( lerating the transmission of letters be tween London and Dublin ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, who was very imperfectly heard in the gallery, stated that the question put by the hon. member bad been under t. ie consideration of the post.office authorities, but the terms of the railway com pany for conveying an extra mail train were so exorbitant auto bo quite out of their power to accept. He hoped that when the Chester and Holyhead line was finished, some terms might be come to with that company, if not with the North Western comp any. SPECIAL CONSTABLES. Lord INGESTRE asked the right hon. hart. opposite if he could give any returns of the number of special constables who were sworn in on the 10th instant to protect the public peace. Sir G. GREY said that the number of special constables sworn in for the City was 23,000 ; but there had been no lists male out in other parts of the metropolis, and although they amounted to many thousands, he could not state the exact number. Sir It. PEEL said that many thousands who had spy lied to be sworn in, could not,owing to want of time; the numbers .esecial constables were, as the right hon. baronet had atuted, very great; but as they could only be very f..ctly estimated, it would net be advisable to have any re turns made out, as they would tend to mislead and not to i i 4 to Inland to be pit , . l 1' , hould, however, hi • s i i di scr i m i na tely to ar (Hear, hear.) The of which certain i when a compromi the first opportuni i . (Loud cheers.) It ministers to rests government of t of which goverua inseparable. (Lot utterly without V gated, both in Ire 1 i such a belief ; and ). t exagorating the 1 alleded. (Hear , I Lord BRouoi • ear: bad quoted as [ not treason, was i when it wa; neet bowed to arm thet .., il . m 1 p r oviding thee i on it was quite ill n The p e al of th small body, who i a measure. I 1 . t 1 The Marquis o 1 • doubt possessed t' , f believed it existe , 1' . i ' gination. He m I assoc i a tion who ' pronstants and ELECTION 0 .. . 1 The Earl of I protest given in title of Lord Co ceived or count( pnrs of Scalar. September, 181 I I 11, order, as to the After a few , Mr. Serjeant 1 1 i to be Lord Cob i . by the LOUD I 1 was asked if he counsel then cc i . ; claim to the ti ~ I. man stated, in that he did m s ought for, at ... . , pointed, before your to make , The Margit should pass th printing nerta .I 1 s , whichve that a c t a t m day). The Earl o privy council foreigners in f send away but person , , a separate.ap '1 : . privy c_o_utici The Mug , " respectable ' l bear the expe 1 i The Earl e pose the clan After a fir i the hill, whit The Mar i 1 \ • . ‘. pod nature of . the house to the appeal which Lord Jame eight to their impatience of labou eas ed that if they were good boy uickly, their Easter holidays sh, figs earlier. The goodwill with in the house set itself to work request, shows how thoroughly was them. On the two last occasions a been before the house, the liberal fined their e ff orts to attempts qualities. In this, looking to th assembly, we think they judged no chance of defeating b the object t h e measure, and therefore it w; as much as possible the range of duration. It is something to hw tunity of renewing the struggle woe of two years, and in the shortened the period within whit their accusation, or men in autho While, however, we frankly thanks to the liberal members for which they have displayed, we our protest against that part of relates to open and advised sp e lision elevates spoken words f indications or proofs of a scdi design into the category of subs! renders a man liable to punish which if falocly laid to his ch prove. If two false witnesses si present armed, red taking active t here are many ways of discredit pr ove an abbe, he may prove OA s nd so forth. It two false wittie publishing a pricdta Incendia ry t hat the auth , : r shi p - is not his. urea's accuse a man of having 'spoken address, the utmost his lc, that they did not hear, or to have heard, him use t is the extreme liability of her s poken words—in the extreme to use a phrase implying more t the danger of allowing spoken constitute a substantive offence c of the time within which an brought, and a warr ant issued, c doe in the provision. There is another and broai Crown and Government Securit the old and deceptive classific has hitherto prevailed iu the I It classifies crimes not accordii object or tendency of the according to the mode in whit Felony and misdemeanor d , classes of culpable actions ha tures in common, but certa widely and i rre concilably di meters, w hich have certain them in common. Such a cl; bewilders unlearned men, con rant of tho public, and weaker law. The crime which the wish to be struck at is the oil balent and destructive passion+ by teaching them by precept upon brute force and cruelty persuasion, and legal means. that such conduct shall only when pursued for political em the ruder and less-informed m ion that the offence is comp directed against private propel THE hero of Trafalgar-re Sold. Government having procession to the houses CHARLES COCHRANE has an bare a procession to Downin, it also will be prohibited, g credit for dash and boldness !ilk. This monkey-like grir utterly unworthy of notice, bi inloble has set to work in o pwilde a crowd will assembl , sal not be there to head it. A circular addressed to du and workhouses in and a Sped "Charles Ccchrane lfan's Guardian Society, Lei< gantry post to parties in t Inas envelope with each of d paper, having printed on c clothe other, " Please to tal rer . hat for the grand deput April 24, at one o'clock, at solar it is said, " As inmates io a restriction of liberty exi aped you to take part i liablic opinion ; but I confide Idi your friends more fortune Ipioxselves out of workhow bias on this important orc aduous but glorious underto loft to infer that the procee o'clock on Monday next f Downing-street, by Whiteha To any man of common s Pacenion can be got up in on, and that the issuer of tl lion of being present at one. boa among the inmates o Intropolis and the neighbor ilaly excited the moat it tad reckless among them oad most likely has been, c dugout of doors. And it is 7 may see, not an orderl3 I understood aim, but 'd around Whitehall, ei I destitution and all t in and about Londo would render this by the dishonest rhich may lead to - itch Orel:want t for Mr. CI *th taiechief streeb reminde aecommodati Mr. the pa t; he / the shelter t nteaningly to th ample lodging f image it. :ii, oc kindledi heifer-match usi;mm,,,ilAik, n w idieeitetictwbNera inhaltl-poe worthies thiEner ni-eiewieottahntahhhteeeamthtmfatniso(iirfi r elhlelianr anf.gCwiWcit • being printed, not W UV printer's name fro ' • RANE may, when que . v os urtem i h n ti,e_feoh iss ratiastu u threeet in eamon g gra:ti t ,e h nb e ieevgeeeeth e pn i te r ure e rf ul i3o4poo.str iu t Beli has, doubtless, adopt train-bands together fr mind issue a proclamatio ' tably, been confirmed i .ire facility it will afford h irk should any serious !rho set it on foot so bounng to secure his ov of Ins own power t •• bling. 1 egisiature b t o ann w m an o th n es o :co rd ero khtu iey h u nl po r an l i d t‘ u ! : r ee n a lsc a t i b , ( l l e to be taught lee of harmlessness. "'date they, as far a at ; but they at the ~ importance to a frib u Power to set mischief work it himself. l l* circular which ha sesertas the brow ue„ poor the lie is "'lnoues are so overcri 'together worse t are compelled to s - tin the street they are reminds "'Loh" , possessed o me l l l. Pounds a year," ~_ large mansionsz °Ttable accommolati 'stud k Persons." Mr. t tlr .ed in lmstiles; he 1 te!i 13 g.poor-law 1111,V1 ores — which , _Peri of the shelter t °Hifs meaningly to ti ' ' ample lodein e i circidai icester-sc, adopt, . waf purpo: