The Express. — London, England, 1851-07-04 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. Mr. HUIdE would be glad was the keeper. (A laugh.) An Host. M —Mr. Or Sir G. GREY said that West the public during the time the times the keys could be had, meat of a email fee. Mr. HUME said it was allow such fees to be taken. were for. THE SEE OF Mr. GOULBURN wished to cornet a statement which lie hail made the other night in reference to the estate of liertield. The bea. member for Cockermouth in alluding to the subject bad asked whether it were true that the Bishop of Ineimegglee had granted • new lease of the estate fes. 'OM lives, and if this bed been made known wale cowasimiesele. Ha (Met - M as e igi th o larn had replied that he had an luminaries et my base in the cue of liorlitid. The bum geettemas Anwar& stated something in refemses to the emboli 'Smithies, sad he (Mr. Goulburn) hat therefore titeught ft IV ea es wake es a correspondence of the eopyhold commideek sad bees which it appeared that there was a lessee of the seem et Horfield. The ecclesiastical commission had intimated their claim to the bishop, but they had not been race aware as to the terms on which the lease had been granted. Mr. HORSMAN said that on Monday night he had asked the noble lord at the head of the peens ment whether the ecclesiastical commissioners had my information as to a new lease of the estate of Head' hawing been granted, and whether they had had any communication with the bishop on the subject. He had understood tho noble lord is reply that he had communicated with Lord Chichester who hail stated that there had been no communication with the bishop on the subject. lie (Mr. Harman) had asked the same question the other night of the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Goulburn) as to whether the commissioners were not aware that a new lease had been granted by the bishop, and then again, he (Mr. llorsruan) bad asked I whether any communication hail not been made front the eopyhold consmis4ion. The right honourable gentleman had stated that there had been no communication made, and he now understood him to admit that a communication had been made, and a new lease had been granted. Ile (Mr. HoirAman) had taken his information from a report on the table of the house ; and hr had been otherwise informed that one of the lives in the lease was that of the bishop himself. (Ilear, hear.) TILE SCHOOL BOOKS OF THE IRISH BOARD OF EDUCATION. Mr. S. HERBERT wished to know whether the - go - - the stile of the HOUSE OF LORl)S.—TrttatanaT, JetT 3. The UMW CS•MCILLOR took his seat at half-past four *Week. ROYAL ARBRNT. The royal assent was given by commission this afternoon to the following bills. The Lords Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, Lord Miato, and Lord St. Germans: — Stamp Duties (Behold) Continuance, Compound House holders, Court of Chancery (Ireland) Regulation Act "Amendment, Highways (South Wale.), Process and Prac tice (Ireland), Prevention of Offences, Fee Farm Rents (Ireland), Bridges (Ireland), Killarney and Valencia Rail .way, Commercial Dock. Improvement, Great Northern Railway Amendment, Harwich Improvement, Leeds and Thirds Railway, Great Western Railway (arrangement to purchase Wilts, Somerset, and Weymouth Rail way) Sheffield, Itotherham, Barnsley, Wake fi eld, Hud dersfield, and Goole Railway ; Stroud and Glen ester Road, Breton Ferry Docks and Railway, South Devon Railway, South Wales Railway, East Lancashire Railway, Eastern Union Railway, St. An drew's Railway, Edinburgh, Perth, and Dundee Rail way ; Uttnseter to Stoke, near Stone (continuation of Term and amendment of Act) ; Monklared Itailways, Liverpool Docks (alteration of management), Waveney Valley Rail way, Sunderland Improvement, Ilaylin's Bridge and Cause way, Price's Patent Candle Company, Midland Railway Capital, :Dundee and Arbroath Railway, Weston-super- Mare Improvement, Buckley Reads Consulalation ' Hud dersfield and New Hay Distnct Turnpike-roail, Grent Cen tral Om Consumers' Company, 'trading Water Works, Warrington and Altrincham Junction Railway, Maryport and Carlisle Railway, North Shields Quays and Improve ments, Great North of Scotland Railway, South Wales Rail way (No. I), Ilathawea Estate, Christ's Hospital Estate. Their lordships adjourned during pleasure. Their lordships resumed at 5 o'clock. TIII-, BARON DE BODE'S CASE. Lord LYNDHURST presented a petition complaining of the delay which bad taken place in the Baron de Bede's case. The LORD CHANCELLOR explained that the Baron de Bode's CAOO bad been postponed to obtain the attendance of the judges. Lord 1.1 NIMUILST was proceeding to enter into the facts of the ease, when Lord CAMPBELL rose to order. Ile objected to the write of the case being entered into on the presentation of a petition. The learned judges hail hitherto been un able to attend, in comequenee of their duties calling them elsewhere. Lord BROUGHAM had always understood that the first duty of the judges was to attend their lordship.. Lord C.ISIPBELL said that they had nut been sum monsed ; but be understood they were to be summoned fur Morloy neat. PETITIONS PRESENTED. Sot tt.is. —By Lord 131101:011AM, from Mr. Robert Owen, praying to be heard before a select committee of the house to, iplain his views fur amid inrati ng society and placing it Un a ns w looting; and supporting, if not preventing, po lefty. 'I he petitioner was an individual of great benevolence, tap ens. and philanthropic pursuits, awl one who, not withstanding he entertained certain opinion. in which many of their I.orinlions not participate. was nevertheless en titled to In rtganleil as a gnat public benefactor. having been, amongst other things, the author of infant schools in this country. The istition was read at the table. The 11 irimis of LANSDOWNE was not prepared to same to the appointment of a committee for the considera tion of large a subject as the reformation of society, with out I. Isola h.ol nutim of its having been intended to make such a proposition. ST EA NI COMMUNICATION WITH AUSTRALIA. Earl lALBOT wished to know whether it was the lamas time of her Majesty's government to carry out the 11111111110 monotonous of the report of the committee appointed by the other house of parliament with respect to steam eamaaunl cation with Austra l ia ? The question of a regular warn consmuaication with South Australia was of very great im portune-, and was every re attracting greeter interest in this einintry and elsewhere. Earl 1.11. l Y (who was all hut inaudible in the gallery) was unite rotund to reply in the negative, and to say that the question was one which involved many important and con flicting totemic. ; mid the government could not give its final el, ..lion upon it until they were in possession of further information. THE ADULTERATION OF COFFEE. Lord W 11A ICsit LIFFE presenti.l a petition, which hr accompanied with some prolonged remark., complaining of the adulterations practised upon coffee under treasury wort • meet of two judges _.- supply the it,— which the public was determined to have. The excessive delay and expense and the total denial of justice in cases that never came to appeal, but remained for years in Chancery, to the utter ruin of the parties concerned, was the great source of complaiut. It was throwing dust in the eyes of the public to contend that the additional judges would remove this grievance. Sir J. GRAHAM, after referring to his recent addition to the chancery commission, on the recommendation of Lord J. Russet', said that he should be very glad to place his services at the disposal of the commission, though he could not promise constant attendance. (Hear, hear.) He thanked the noble lord for this second bill, which he thought a great improvemeut on the first. But he thought they were beginning their improvements at the top, instead of the buttons of the building. (Hear, hear.) limo belief was, that improvement was needed at the very foundation. The other night they hail glanced at the Masters' of and an hon. gentleman had said with great truth, that nos ' body could he found to defend the Masters in Chancery. Allusion had also been made to another office, that of the examiners; and he believed there was no exiunplo in any civilised country of improvement being delayed for so long a period as in this department. (Hear bear.) He had his fears with respect to this bill, identical with those which, sifter 20 years expe rience, he thought were rightly expressed by Sir 54111%/11 Homily, in regard to the appointment of vice-chancellors. He said that the appointment of subordinate assistants to the Lord Chancellor would be attended with this fatal con sequence, that the character of the office itself would be de graded, awl never again would England see such men bolding the great seal as Somers, Camden, or Hardwick'. (Hear, hear.) The appointment, he said, w ould be attended with this serious danger and inconvenience, that the office of Lord Chancellor would be rendered primarily political, and secondarily judicial; whereas the reverse ought to he the case. (Hear.) Ile certainly believed that this appellate tribunal, viewed abstractedly, would be an efficient tribunal, and would exercise its functions of various kinds to the satin- faction of the suitors. His fear was, that when the at rears had been reduced there would not be work enough both for the tribunal and the Lord Chancellor. if that should be the effect, the danger was inevitable of degrada tion of the standard of men who were really competent to be Chancellor of England. Ile was not prepared to take upon himself the responsibility of opposing the fur ther progress of this bill ; but he did entertain doubts, and entertaiuing them, he could not omit to state them. Mr. AGLIONIIY believed that within recent years the proceedings in the Master's offices had been very much improved, but abuses did not exist there alone. It sometimes occurred that the lessee had a dispute with the receiver, and not wishing to depend on his own judge ment, he might wish to take his case before the Master. Now, he could not do that without first going into the Court of Chancery and obtaining a copy of all the proceed ings in that court, as also serving notice on all the soli citors engaged in the ease. hat was an instance of a serious grievance, awl many others might be cited. (Hear.) Mr. HENLEY would take the liberty of asking the right hon. Solicitor-General whether or not it was in tended by this bill to confer on the new judges any original jurisdiction ? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL replied that the measure contemplated the hearing of original causes by those judges, only in cases where illness prevented the attendance of one or more of the Masters in Chancery, or in case of all the peals being cleared off and disposed of, which was not anti , cipated or at all likely to occur. Mr. HUME was given to understand, that if the Masters in Chancery were called upon to sit daily at 9 o'clock, and go through the business regularly—instead of adopting the system at present in practice—the root of the evil of ureter would be reached. lie wished to know from the noble lord whether an order to that effect from the Lord Chancellor to the Masters would not be advisable? Lord J. RUSSELL said there had been this change made in the Masters offices, that, instead of the hour war rants, the plan had been introduced of having the causes proceeded with regularly, one after the other, in their re spective order. lie might say the Lord Chancellor would be happy to adopt any iinprovements that might be made. In reference to what had been said by the right hon. mem ber for Ripon, he (Lord J. Russell) certainly should have attached great weight to his objection, were it not for the authority which he (Sir J. Graham) had cited to sustain his objection. When the proposal of creating a Vice-Chancellor was brought before parliament in 1811 or 1813, it was said by Sir Samuel Homily that, in the event of such functionary being appointed, they could not expect to get men of ability and standing to accept the office of Lord Chancellor, but that the o ffi ce would become one of a political nature. However, he thought the objection of Sir Samuel Hominy had been in that respect falsified. He (Lord J. Russell) certainly thought the Lord Chancellor should have more time than was allowed him at present to devote to the question of legal reform. The Lord Chas cellor felt it to be his first duty to do justice in the causes that came before him, and to decide with the greatest attention and labour in all causes in his court, and consequently it was impossible for any man, no matter what his ability, to accomplish the multifarious duties of his office unassisted. (Hear, hear.) The bill then before the house was important in providing that assist. ance ; and he trusted great advantages would result from it to the suitors in chancery. (Hear, hear.) Mr. EVANS readily admitted that something in the nature of a minister of justice was much required. He wished to know why the Masters in Chancery should not take original business? He objected to the mode of taking evidence at present, and hoped all these imperfec tione would be reformed. (Hear, hear.) The clause (clause 1) was then agreed to, as also were 2 and 3. Clause 4, with some verbal amendments introduced by Mr. Bethel, was agreed to, as also clauses 5,0, and 7. On clause 8, The SOLICITOR-GENERAL explained that appcals'in bankruptcy were first from the commissioner to the chief judge in bankruptcy, and from him to the Lord Chancellor. Now, by the present bill the hearing by the chief judge in bankruptcy was taken away altogether, and the appeal sent to the newly created tribunal. The clause was then agreed to. Clauses 9 and 10 were agreed to. On clause 11, The SOLICITOR-GENERAL pragnesd to Mil the es in N....at way they *bond seers me the aid he required to grapple with the difficulty. (Hear.) me hon. and learned friend rimmed to think it was an soomuly that the two judges should preside in the Ju dicial Committee of the Privy Centeil; but it was expected that the new errangsuants would give the judges ample lasers to attend the Judicial Committee ; and of course, as to their competency then would be no question. Thus by the pin proposed it the bill they would get an appeal teen ad two geed judges to mkt the Privy Council ; be ides width it amid have this great advantage, namely, that it would limas the amount of appeal business a the Bowe of Lords. At the present mo wn He appeals from the Vice-Chancellor, though to a higher judge, was still from a single judge to another single judge ; but, when it should be to two judges, appeals would scarcely ever be taken to the House of Lords except in cues of great magnitude. As appeals to the Lord Chan cellor were much less comity than to the House of Lords it was of great consequence to improve the former as much as possible rather than to transfer a large portion of the busi ness to the latter. (Cheers.) With respect to the number of registrars, be could not sec how the question was in volved in the first clause ; but it should have his best atten tion. (Cheers.) Mr. FRESIiFIELD briefly argued that it was necessary to appoint a new registrar. Lord J. RUSSELL promised to make inquiries into the subject, and if he found it desirable he should have no objection to propose a clause creating another registrar. (Cheers.) Sir DE L. EVANS felt disappointed that the government hadonlT proposed to increase the staff of the Court of Chan cery. t he hon. member went on to refer at some length to an individual case of delay and difficulty, which led to a brief conversation, after which, Mr. ELLICE, while &Aimg the utmost confidence in the Chancery commission, thought it desirable that some Mas ter in Chancery of great experience should be added to it. Sir U. STRICKLAND firmly believed the state of the Court of Chancery to be the greatest grievance that ever existed in this country. lle doubted whether the appoint. - additional • would --- • the redress eroment had decided upon confirming books by the Irish commissioners to Ireland, and further if it war to be confined to schools connected with the board ? Mr. C. LEWIS said: Oovemment had taken the matter into consideration, and had come to the conclu sion that as far as the strict application of the grant was concerned, it should be confined to the supply of books in connexion with the Irish national board, but at the same time they had requested the commissioners of the national booed to make such arrangements as would secure to the Irish schools, and to the public at large, the continuence of the supply of the hooks in an authentic form at moder ate prices, or at such prices as they bad hitherto been sold at. POSTAL COMMUNICATION WITII FRANCE. Lord PALMERSTON, in reply to Mr. Bruit, mid:his noble friend the Postrmater-Gentral had had some com munications with the French government, but they Raid nut led to any definite result. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BILL. Mr. FRESIIIFIELD asked Lord John Ruseell what amendments he proposed to introduce in this bill and in what order ? Lord J. RUSSELL replied that he did not propose to make any alteration in the preamble or in the first clause as they now stood after the amendments agreed to by the house the other evening. but on the second clause be proposed to omit all the work which were introduced on the motion of the hon. and learned gentleman the member for Abingdon with respect to certain balls and restripts. Ile should likewise propose to ',eve out those words which would give a common informer the right to proceed against any person with the consent of the Attorney-General. Mr. GLADSTONE said he understood it was the noble lord's intention to move to omit 10 amendments, which would materially affect the bill. Ile concluded it was the general impression of the house that they ought to have one more debate at large on the merits of the bill, and it would be greatly fur the convenience of the house if it could be ogre .I!bygeneral understanding to take that debate, not upon the third nailing of the bill, hut upon the qui.stiim that the bill do pass. lie thought it would he well that they should take the debate after this motion. Lord J. RUSSELL said he quite agreed with the right hon. gentleman that it would he more convenient that when the house discussed the general principle of the bill it should be able to discuss it in the shape in which it would finally appear. Therefore, if the house would consent to morrow to allow the third reading of the bill, then they could discuss these amendments. The house then passed to the orders of the day. OATH OF ABJURATION (JEWS) BILL. On the order of the day for the third reading of this bill, Sir ROBERT INGLIS entered his %Mem protest against a measure which went to render a declaration in the truth of the Christian religion no longer necessary in numbers of that house, thus tending to destroy the Chnstiou character of the legislature. With that solemn declaration of opinion he would rest satiatiol, and not trouble the house with a division. Lord JOIIN RUSSELL felt it neces.sary, in consequence of the protest thus made, to state that lie did not believe the legislature ever intended to require a declaration of belief in ChristianPyiu aqualification for a seat in that house. All that W 144 intended by the oath of abjuration was to enable persons to declare allegiance to the family now on the throne, and to adjure allegiance to the family of James With regard to the conditions in the several oaths, the Jew was perfectly ready to swear compliance in the way that was binding on his conscience. Lord John Russell was glad to see that Alderman Salomons, who had just been elected fur Greenwich, had decided not to COMIC down and take the oaths till the other house had had another oppor tunity of considering the question; and when that other house came to take into consideration the present measure, Lord John Russell hoped they would remember that the Rouse of Commons hail shown much sensitive ness, he did nut mean to say too much sensitiveness, as to the privileges of the Rome of Lords in the course they had adopted. Ile trusted that when their lordships coo sidereal that the Rouse of Commons hail declared for the third time their opinion that the Jew ought to sit in the Lower Rouse, they would consider whether it was not time that the people should be left to their own choice as regarded those who should represent them. As matters stood, the Jew candidate had an unfair advantage over the Christian, for he could claim the suffrages of the consti tuency as a citizen deprived of civil privileges on accaunt of his religious belief. Mr.NEWBECiATE rejoiced that the hon. baronet did not iuteud to divide the house, because Alderman Salomon: had declared his intention to take his scat independent of the bill. Although lie had been advised, he said, to wait the result of the bill in the House of Lords, he hail been elected on a pledge to take his seat independent of the law. Under these circumstances, it would be supererogation in the house to express an opinion on the bill. Mr. HODGSON said the noble lord came down to that boom in the champion of protettautism, and introduced a lbw to repel pupal aggression. Ile asked the noble lord how he could reconcile his conduct with respect to these two measures. Ile protested against this bill in his own name sad in the name of hi. constituents. Mr. PLUMPTRE said 177 members had voted against this bill, and only 202 for it. Ile quite agreed with his boa. friend that under these circumstances it was not neces sary to divide an the present occasion. Ile protested against this bill, and believed it to be opposed to the feelings of the people of this country. - Mr. J. A. SMIT It said the cause of the small majority oit the second reading was quite notorious. Ile had not the slightest fear that the house and the public at large will understand why it was they would not divide now. All that he could say was that they were quite ready on that side to test by a division whether the opinion of the house hail undergone any alteration. (Loud cheers.) Mr. HENLEY repudiated the idea that the hon. mem bers on that side were afraid of a division. The bill bad been brought on just when the noble lord pleased. If he saw his benches fall he had the question dies Mused ; but if he saw them empty he put it off. (Loud dicers.) Under these circumstances, and having openly protested against the bill on its second reading, he did not think it necessary to trouble the house to divide again. The question that the bill be read a third time was then put from the chair; Sir R. Inglis and several other mem bers loudly cried " No," but as they did not demand a di vision, the Speaker declared that the ayes had it. The question that the bill do pass was carried in the like manner. ...... Earl GRANVILLE said that there were gond rea lms. why the system that bail formerly pn•raikel haul been interfemil with by the government, for it hail operated injuriously. Ile admitted that coffee in this country might nut la• generally so good as that which was served in most of the great towns on the Continent, but that was perhaps owing to the mode of preparing it rather than to any infe riority in the article itself; and there was certainly as much chicory in the eohh•e that was so highly approved of in l'aris as in any that was sold in England. After all the discussions and controversy that hail taken place on this subject, the public meeting of the trade, and the debates in loth houses of parliament, the public could not be ignorant of the real nature of the coffee that was sold in must of the shops, and it could not be main tained that the public at huge were injured, for it was at the option of all who did out like the miaturu to buy a coffee mill and grind the berry themselves. SNIITHFIELD MARKET. Lord ItF..\t'>lONT gave notice that he should move that the stamina; orders of the house, requiring notices • should be lisp -recd with in the case of the Smithfield Market Eve novel Rill. After a few words from Lord BRoru HAIL basil BEAU lONT said that to marrow he should give his reausiss for the motion. COURT OF CHANCERY.—ABOLITION OF OFFICES. Lord Illtol3l3llAM asked whether it was intended to introduce any bill similar to that brought forward by Lord Cniteuliam lust year, for the purpose of abolishing certain (Mice", and among them that of Chief Registrar in the Court of It.enkruptcy. hill had been stigmatised in the House of Commons as a job, and rejected ; but he could only say he wished there wen• more such jobs. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the facts stated hy Lord Brougham were comet. There could be no doubt that great inconvenience had been CAM. d by the rejection of Lord Cottenham's bill, to remedy which it would be neces sary to bring in a fresh bill. The noble lord then preemitled to give a sketch of the duties of his secretaries, and of the time and trouble he hAbestowed on the office he now filled. blush remained to be dune in the way of law reform, but it was only these who were ignorant of the evils caused by alterations made by rash hands who underrate.' what had been already etfected. It was must unjust to attack him for not desiring refrom, for he had been a reformer before re form was in fashion. and he would not cease to be one now. laud lIROCti II AM, in a speech of some length, warmly repudiated the imputation of rashness cast alum him by the Lord Chancellor, who protested that he bad not used the:woril*•• rash hands:" with reference to his noble friend. After some further explanations the matter dropped. The Prisons (Scotland) Bill, and the Survey of Great Britain, Ac., Bill. severally passed through committee. The Itepresentive Peers (Scotland) Bill was then read a aeond time. The ilanehester Waterworks Din was read a third time, and passed. The Patent Laws Amendment Bill was read ► third time, and pawed. Their lordships adjourned at a quarter past seven. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TIWILSDAT JOLT 3. The ti took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. _ _ Tlltillt RlSADlNtli.—lmperial Continental Gas AYOCiS st. Bartholomew's llospital Estate; St. Pancras (111iilitlesez) Paving: Bills. BILL Cusstonnan.—Kensimeton Improvement Bill. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. _ _ Tilt C KTIIT&L PAsAcs.—Dy Or B. HALL, from the inhabitant. of Maryietigre pm*" est the Crystal Palace might b open (or four days is t h e week at a chars° of ad mission of one penny each perm. WI that an set might be passed, during the pment session of putiameat, to enable the commissioners to preserve the budding on its pre- Sent pin•. 1311111 i C.IXIILUNICATION.—By Viscount JOCELYN, Eon the Chamber of COIIIIIICMC of Bombay, praying for Issyniry into the state of steam communication in India ; Viscount JOCELYN, from merchants and traders of the City of London, representing a capital of 1,400,0001., pray ing that the first report of the committee on steam commu nication with India be curried into effect The latter peti tion, on the motion of the noble lord, was read at the table. Isissiiirou House Derr Batt.—By Mr. EIVART. from 7.k.) persons, members of the College of Preceptors and proprietors of schools, praying that (in the Inhabited House Dusty Bill) buildings devoted to the purpose of education may. like houses counected with shops and warehouses, be nabyeeted only to the lower rate of charge. LITHOGRAPHED PETITIONS. _ . . Petitions were presented by Mr. COBDEN, Lord NAAR, and others from veterinary surgeons of various plans pray ing that they might be ernipted (rum acting on juries. Mr. THORN ELY (chairman of the committee on peti tions) having put a question as the petitions were severally presi ntid. elicited the fret of their being lithographed. Mr. COBDEN said he bad written to one of the parties who had forwarded the petitions to him, stating that it was doubtful whether they would he received, but had added that he was willing ter give them a trial. (laughter.) Tile [SPENCER said that accord i ng to the orders of the here no lithographed petitions raid bs received. TUOUNELT mid that at the beginning of every erre t►e orders of the house were prated, and a copy sent mod to every member. From these orders it would be seen that so lithographed petition could be received, and It rested with her members themselves to maho this known__ EXPENSES OF PROSECUTIONS (SCOTLAND). In answer to Hr. F. 31st:swum Mr. C. LEWIS said there would be reties to lay certain papers on the table in contusion Aim saltiest WETHINsTER HA Mr. HUME begged to ask the noble lord at the head of the Woods and Forests whether any had been made to have Westminster Hall thrown open to straillters At present it ap_penred that parties had to pt a key and pay a certain let. The utmost liberahty pngl?t to be displayed in such matters especially at the present time. Lord SEYMOUR said he was not the keeper of West filmier Hall, and could mot give the hoe. amber say THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EYEIUNG JULY, 4, 1851. stets is the Jastl* Committee, and thus give greater fa-1 eiliYes fee inalein4 a al quorum. (Hear.) • It was then proposed and agreed to that the three members should be of the legal professiod, exclusive of the Lord President of the Council for the time being. The clause was then agreed to. Clause 15 was struck out. Clauses 16 and 17 were agreed to. On clause 18, The SOLICITOR-GENERAL explained that it was in tended to provide salaries for the officers of the new judges, including 4001. a year for a secretary, 2601. for an usher, and 1001. a year for a trainbenrer. Mr. AGLIONBY said he objected to the manner and fund out of which all these payments were to be made. The cx pease. necessary fur the administration of justice should be paid by the country and not by the suitors as such. He put st to the hon. and learned Solicitor-General, whether it was desirable to charge an additional sum of 14,0001. a year to the suitors' fund instead of seeking the relief of the suitors' fee fund and the suitors. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, the transference of the charge from the suitors' fund to the suitors' fee fund would be anything but advantageous. The suitors' fund was what =got be termed the bankers' profit of the court, arising from the loose cash invested, from which there was no claim for interest, and the committee recommended that it should be managed with a view to the ultimate reduction of fees. Only six weeks ago the Lord Chan cellor made au order by which the charges on suitors were diminished to the extent of 20,0001. a rear, and he trusted the process of diminution would continue. Mr. HUME said his great objection to these charges was that they were not paid out of the Consolidated Fund, and that 100,0001. a year was paid for salaries without the amount being brought to account by the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Why should there not be an account as in the case of any other portion of the public expenditure ? What was this suitors fund ? It consisted of stock to the amount of 3,525,0001., the interest on which was during the lad year 103,3981. Ile complained of this mode of payment us a fraud on the public ; and he trusted that the government would see the propriety of making an ahem .. . . . . . . Mr. V. SMITH considered the appointment of train bearers calculated to stamp the new judgeships with ridi cule. Ile did not see why the new judges should have 6,0001. a year, while the puisno judges of the law courts had only 5,0001. Lord J. RUSSELL said the train-bearer was employed as a messenger to carry books and reports. It appeared to the government that if they were to appoint two judges to a court of appeal, whose decisions were to overrule those of the Vice-Chancellor, somewhat of larger salaries ought to be given to them than to the Vice-Chancellor. With regard to the suitors' fund, he was not prepared to contest that it would be desirable that the salaries should be paid altogether out of that fund. Sir J. GRAHAM expressed the satisfaction he felt at hearing these observations fall from his noble friend. Though there was a distinction between the suitors fund and the suitors' fee fund, yet it had always appeared to him that to abstract too much money out of the suitors' fund would endanger the suitors' fee fund, and, with the view of ' reducing the payments to the latter fund, he looked with jealousy at soy increased charge on the suitors fund. Ile was as rigid an economist as the honourable member fur Northainptoo (Mr. V. Smith) ; still, if the house were to appoint a court of appeal, the judges of that court must be taken from the very foremost ranks of the profession, and, as they ought not to be insufficiently rewarded, he did nut think 11,00111. a year an inordinate salary for them to re ceive. Ile was afraid, however, that a very great additional charge was about to be made on the suitors' fund. He would place judicial offices on the con solidated fund ; and talking of judicial offices, he wished to know what had become of the bill for reducing the amount of official salaries. Lord J. RUSSELL said the Lord Chancellor was of opinion that great changes ought to take place with regard to offices and salaries, but he entertained doubts whether this was the proper time far making them, seeing that a commission was sitting with the view of remodelling the offices and assigning the business attached to each. In reply to Mr. Hisser., Lord J. RUSSELL said the recommendation of the eons- mittee that the Vies-Chancellor should only receive 5,000/. a year—had been adopted since the death of Sir. L. Shadwell. After a brief conversation :the sum of 6,0001. salary was inserted in the clause. In line Zl;i, clause 18, salaries were inserted—fur the secre tary, 400/., the usher 2)01., and the train-bearer 1001. Clause 10, which had reference to pensions, was postponed. In reply to Sir J. GleallAM, Lord RUSSELL said there was a provision in the act of Anne, to the etfect that any person taking a new office, who was a member of the house, should be re elected, and therefore this pros isiun had nut been inserted again in the bill. Clause DI was agreed to. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL expressed himself favour able to the new clauses suggested by the hon. member fur Newark. The new judges would lie continuously sitting, ! and therefore there would be twice as much business doing iu future as there was at present. The business of the registrars had greatly accumulated; and therefore there was a clause providing that in case it was neeissary, the Lord Chancellor might appoint an additional registrar. A chose to this effiet was read a first and second time, and ordered to be misled to.the bill. The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the house resumed. CUSTOMS BILL. This bill, as amended, was ordered to be considered on Monday. INHABITED HOUSE DUTY BILL. Mr. lIUME asked whether lie would he allowed on Mon day to bring forward his motion for levying the duty on houses from 40s. up to 201.? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that if the hon. member wished to carry out his views, he should bring in a new bill. They had, however, plenty of legislation connected with this subject before them fur the ' present session ; and he certainly did not feel inclined to give way to the hon. member. lie would, however, be guided by the feelings of the house. Mr. DISRAELI said there was another motion on this subject to be brought on by the hon. member for Leicester, the object of which was to have the duty levied on nil houses of IW. a year and upwards. Perhaps the hon. member for Montrose would defer his own motion, and unite in endeavouring to carry this, which would cer tainly be one step in advance towards the lion. mem ber's object. Ile (Mr. Disraeli), however, really thought that the hon. member for Montrose should have an oppor tunity of bringiair his motion forward. (Hear.) The committee on the Inhabited House Duty Bill was then postponed till Monday next, and Mr. HUME renewed the notice of his motion for that day. WOODS, FORESTS, &c., BILL. On the question being put fur going into committee en this bill, Viscount DUNCAN stated the course ho intended to pursue. Ile had given notice that he would move that it be an instruction to the committee on the Woods , Forests, &c. Bill to make provision therein in conformity with the terms of the resolution to which this house agreed on the llth day of March last, relating to the payment of the gross income of the possessions and land revenues of the crown into the exchequer, and the expenses necessary for collect ing and managing the same being placed under the control of this house. The Speaker, with that kindness and ur banity by which he was distinguished, had, however, in formed him that such a motion would be irregular, and he therefore had taken that opportunity of informing the house that it was his intention to test its opinion on the fourth clause of the bill. Ile had to ask his noble friend if he would have the kindness now to state the nature and provisions of the bill. It was one of the most important bills which had been brought in this session. Lord SEYMOUR had no objection to answer any point which might be put to him. After a few words from Sir H. WlttotuituY, Lord J. RUSSELL said that the bill in general principle resembled a measure which had beenintrodueedlast session. Ile had then stated that the °dices:of Works and Woods and Forests had blended together some years ago,and thatcertain inconveniences, which had been clearly proved before the committee, had resulted, and what they had proposed generally had been, that the office of Works should be one department, represented by a member of the house, ' amongst whose duties would be the bringing forward of es timates connected with the department. The Woods and Forests and land revenues it was proposed should be managed by permanent officers under the treasury. Mr. TRELA.WNEY complainedthat the bill was merely a new arrangement as regarded tho mode of governing the Woods and Forests,and did not go into the evils which were so justly complained of, in order that they might be eradi cated. At present the forests were almost unproductive. Sir W. JOLIFFE said the bill did not carry out the re .l.stions of the commission of inquiry , . It was a - sd F, COURT OF CHANCERY AND JUDICIAL COM- lowing words to the mai of the cliimi,iliad in bill to make the department of the Woods and . MITTEE BILL. where the concurrence, advice, or cement of the Muter of a matter of Treasury benefit than hitherto. The house went into committee upon this bill. the Rolls, or one of the Viee.Chaneellors, shall be requ i- Sir C. BURItEL L recommended that the forests should Upon clause I, site for making such rules and orders, the concurrence, be disposed of in small allotments. Mr. J. STUART said this dame suggested some very advice, or consent of one of the judges appointed by this Mr. GOULBURN apprehended that the bill went no important considerations. It was one to evest , a new court act, shall be sufficient." The addition of these words further than to improve the constitution of that court by of appeal in the Court of Chancery; and it would, no would he thought meet the views of the he n , an d l earne d which the crown lands were managed, and that it would be doubt, materially alter the constitution of that court member for Midhunt, who signified his intention of pro• left to that court afterwards to carry out the necessary re- As the bill would manifestly interfere with the ap- posing some such words. . forms in the system of management. He thought the bill pelLaut jurisdiction of the House of Lords, it would The amendment was agreed to. might have been more definite in its provisions. It pre. sure) lure been desirable that it should have been origi- Mr. BETHEaI, proposed to omit from the clause that scribed first the continuance of the present board, or at noted in another place ; although he admitted there was a part of it *bitch prohibited the Court of Appeal, and the least the continuance of a Chief Commissioner of Woods and great convenience in its origination in the House of Com- Master of the Rolls, and Vice•Chaneellor, from exercising Forests with two subordinate commissioners, and for the mons, for the noble lord who had brought it forward felt it the jurisdiction of the Chancellor in Lunacy. better management of the department the bill provided would be necessary to make some provision for the judges After a few words from the SOLterrolleGENwitAL, that these two subordinate commissioners should have din- to be appointed, and their lordships could not have done Mr. BETHELL suggested the addition of the following ferent departments to manage. This was the first arrange that without interfering with the privileges of this house. words, " not affecting the power, authority, and duty of most. Then, about the third or fourth clause of the bill, All, therefore, that he (Mr. Stuart) wanted was, the Lord Chanceller, under or by virtue of any appoint- another arrangement was proposed. Power was there that there should be a fair time allowed fur them meat under the sign manual of the crown." taken to appoint a surveyor-general, who was to supersede to consider whether or not the primary functions With which addition the clause was agreed to. these commissioners and to have absolute control. He of the new judges should not be in the House of Lords in. On dame 14, referring to the constitution of the Judicial wished to know from his noble friead if he had stated the stead of as proposed. lie considered the bill also defective Committee of the Privy Council, provisions of the bill correctly? in that it did not make any provision for new registrars. It Mr. BETHELL thought it would be much better to Lord SEYMOUR said that objection had been taken to was agreed on all hands that the amount of labour at pee. have your the quorum, of whom three should be lawrs, the bill on various grounds. lie had brought in a bill sent imposed on the registrars was more than they were as at present. He begged to move the omission of the regarding the New Forest which had passed the eons able to discharge ; and he had hoped that the noble lord clause. mittee up stairs. By this bill the management would would have made arrangements for the appointment, not Mr. STUART hoped the govt ant would pause before be simplified, the Lod Warden's office would cease, merely °rubel officers as ashen,train-scares, secretaries, they consented to strike out the cTalise. the deer would be removed, and that would afford and the like, but of the more important o ffi cers, of whom he T he SOLICITOR-OENERAL thought the clause ought them an opportnnity of letting the farm. It had been ob. was 'puking. The number of registrars was fixed by the to remain. jectcd that the forests had not supplied timber to the navy 6th Viet. cap. 5. There were five courts, namely, the Mr. A. PALMER thought the clause would have He had been on a committee on this subject up stairs is three Vice.Chaneellors', the Master of the Rolls', and the a prejudicial effect. 1:333. when a letter had been laid before them from the Ad- Lod Chancellor's, which required the attendance of these Lord J. RUSSELL said that there was great difficulty in rairalty, which recommended that in time of p eace n o officers, and at present, each was alternately one day in making a quorum, and therefore the court did not meet timber should be cut except what was going to decay. Now, court and one day in his own office. The average number when it was desirable that it should meet. This was a they had either to allow the timber to grow, and have a of courts sitting every day was four, but the appointment great inconvenience. (Hear, hear.) They therefore pro- large quantity of it at hand when the exigencies of the of the additional judges would raise that &Tune to five, pored two things to remedy it. One was to make three country might demand it, or else cut it and sell it when and the registrar would only be able to attend in his °Mee members the quorum, and the other was to make two of the ripe. The latter was not considered an advisable two days a week. The appointment of a new registrar judges, who had not the power of sitting in the Privy course. It hail also been complained that the forests would only be 1,2601. per anaemia, a aim not worthy of eon- Conseil, privy COII.IIMIIOII, so that they could take their law led to great expense. On this point he had to `oresta mo inform them that he was bringing in a bill to relieve the crown from the feudal system of forest law. Another hon. member had said the present was ■ Treasury Bill, and not a Woods and Forests Bill. It appeared to him (Lord Seymour), that the best mode of securing economy was to put a department under the control of the Treasury, who were answerable for the expenditure of the country. Ile conceived that to be, therefore, a recommendation rather than an objection. The bill gave an alternative. It left the office of Woods to two commissioners, and then he inserted a clause to have a surveyor generally responsible and controlling the whole, and to have under him a practi cal land surveyor as a deputy, whom he might send about to different parts of the country, bringing back to him that information which a person in an office in London could not possibly - have. It was im possible, with the land revenues of the country spread over 40 counties, that gentlemen sitting at White hall could manage them properly, without this kind of in formation and assistance. One great and important object of the bill was to facilitate the understanding of the compli cated accounts of the office. Mr. Ill:ME said there was not a man in the house who would not admit that the grossest abuses existed in this de partment. lie could produce cases of mismanagement quite as bad as those they had the other night regarding the church but he would not trouble the house with them. Mr. HENLEY said the very fact of this bill being brought forward was a proof that there had been mismanagement of the crown estates. It seemed to him, however, that this bill was so curiously contrived as to prevent any one from being responsible, and that did not augur well for the future good assuagement of the property. This bill, though it might be altered when it went into committee, did nut offer say security that the property would be managed in future much better than it had been. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought there ought to be in the house a responsible head of every department, but there was an uncommon jealousy against increasing the number of official members ; and so they must rest content without having such ample oppor tunities of asking questions. As the matter stood the treasury would be responsible as it were for the Post-office or the Customs ; and, as in those cases, it would have a check over the expenditure, inasmuch as any outlay would have to be sanctioned by it. With regard to the insertion of other persons upon the commission, it would be similar to what was the case with the Board of Control and the Poor Law Board, of which he (the right hon. baronet) hail the honour to he a member, not that he actively interfered with the business of either, but in the case of the resignation or death of his hon. friend (Mr. Baines), for instance, it would be found convenient to have es officio members to carry on the business till his successor should be appointed. (Hear, hear.) The house then went into committee. On clause 1, Lord DUNCAN found that two commissioners of woods were to be appointed at 1,2001., and that in the Ilth clause the noble lord contemplated afterwards the appointment of a surveyor-general with a salary of 1,5001. a year. Ile thought that they had better at once place the matter under the care of the surveyor-general, fur he perfectly concurred with the noble lord that the manage ment of this property would he much better done by one person, especially as the two commi.cioners were to keep, according to clause 5, separate accounts. Lord SEYMOUR said that as, in addition to the sur veyor-general, there was to be a practical surveyor, the expense of the two systems would be much the same. After some conversation, Mr. VERNON SMITH said: He should have thought, looking to the bill, that the Chancellor of the Ex chequer wished to appoint a surveyor-general, but was hampered by the present commissioner because he had said that those gentlemen would be entitled to compensation. But he had left the commissioners in an awkward position, because any government might turn them out without compensation. The bill provided fur no compensation. His opinion was that the appointment of a surveyor general would bo the best constitution, and if that step were taken at once an opportunity would he afforded fur deciding what should be done in the case of the commis sioners. But lie could not see why it should h. left to the Treasury to alto ;the scheme again, and to abandon these gentlemen without any compensation to which they might be entitled. Mr. TRELAWNEY was of opinion that the bill did not go for enough. The CHAIRMAN then stated the question to he, that all that part of the clause should be struck out which fol lowed the words " this act." _ . Atter a few worth from the CIISNCELLOIL of the Ex- CREQCEit, Sir J. GRAHAM had arrived at the opposite eon clu.ion from that of the hon member for Northamp ton upon the same premises; and judging trout the very tact to which that honourable gentleman had referred he drew a contrary infl•rence, for the government would not have appointed a third commis,•ioner if they had not intended to continue the commission. Upon the returned was that the messenger had informed him (the Serjeant-at-Arms) that it was caused by the hon. member rue Ennis (the O'Gorman Mahon). lie was not aware that any other member joined in making the noise. The Sig:AEI - At haring summoned the Serj-atit-at- Arms, said that he had been informed that during the mutes • great disturbance had Inwn caused by some• mem. bee outside the door. What member caused the disturb ance ? • The SEILIZANT-AT-ARMS—The messenger told nit that it was the hon. member for Ennis. The SPEAKER—Is the hon. member for Ennis in his place ? Mr HUME suggested that as the Serjtunt-at-Arms anly heard the statement from the messenger, it might be desi rable to call in that servant of the house.. The SPEAKER (who saw the hon member for Ennis in the gallery), said—Will the hon. member fur Ennis take his place ? The O'GoaMAN MAHON descended from the gallery and took his place in the house. The SPEAKER.—The house has been informed by the Chairman that during the proceedings of the committee on the Woods and Forests Hill, the committee has been in terrupted by the hon. member for Ennis making a disturb ance at the door of the house during the time the com mittee was sitting. If that statement be correct, lam sure the hon. member for Ennis will feel that he owes it to the house to apologise for such indecorous conduct. (Hear.) The O'GORMAN MAHON—No man in the house"( out of the house is more desirous of olearving the rules which regulate civilised society than I am, and I la g to pro- test against the imputations cast upon me in the present instance. (Hear, hear.) Ido not merit them, and there fore I have no apolary to make to the house. I now re quest permission to state what did occur, aid when the house has heard me I trust it will acquit me of any thing like disrespect towards it, or of any deviation from the conduct which, as an independent member of parliament, I was called on to observe. The strangers immediately above you, sir, had not retired from the gallery beforo the division when I knocked to have the door opened. The messenger refused to do so. I conse quently continued to knock at the door, in order that I might exercise my prerogative here as member. I was denied admission, and I say a wrong was inflicted on me by the exclusion to which I was subjected. (hear, hear.) Mr. P. BUTLER—Sir, I beg to corroborate the state ment of my hon. friend. I was close to the scene; and, hearing my bun. friend knocking at the door, and beiag aware with my hun. friend that strangers had nit then left the house, I remonstrated with the functionary near the door, and asked him to open it. Ile refused to do so, and the interruption continued, for which I hope my hon. friend has satisfactorily apologised. The O'GORMAN MAHON —No, no. (Loud laughter.) Mr. BUTLER—Though he has not apologised, he cer tainly said that he meant no disrespect to the house, but that he merely meant to exercise his privilege of voting, and hoped by knocking at the dour to he enabled to do so. The SPEAKER—Before the question is put, 1 hope that, after what has fallen from the hon. member, the house will be satisfied that he was nut guilts , of intentional disre spect. (Loud cries of " Hear, hear') The O'GORMAN MAIIOS—And I hope, sir, that you will issue such directions as will present the returreine of similar scenes in future. Last session and this wes.iin I had occasion to complain of the rapidity with which the doors arc closed, thereby preventing the prerogatives uud rights of hon. members front being exercised.. Mr. GOtLBUItN.—I beg to say that I think members who are too quickly excluded ought afterwards to prefer their complaint, and that the menders se exelud•al are not justified in interrupting the business of the house. ' " hewed cries of " litar,lear.") The O'GORMAN MAHON.—I am perfectly aware that I possess no right to which other memlnrs are not equally entitled. I hare comp to the fountain head, and I appeal to the Speaker to issue such orders as will prereed the re currence of similar scenes. (Hear.) The matter here dropped. ASSESSED TAXES COMPOSITION BILL. This bill was read a recond time. PUBLIC WORKS, FISHERIES, Sec., BILL. This bill was also read a second time. SCHOOL SITES ACTS AMENDMENT BILL. This bill passed through committee. lIIGIIWAY ILVIES 131 LL. This bill wasread a third time stud passed. ECCLESIASTICAL JURISDICTION BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. COUNTY COURTS FURTHER EXTENSION COMPENSATION BILL. The report uiZo;7ltl;lilrieasconsil 7 r7;i - and agreed to. LOAN SOCIETIES BILL. This hill proud through committee. BURGESSES AND FREEMEN'S PARLIAMENTARY FRANCHISE BILL. This ball was read a third time and passed. VETERINARY SCRGEONS' EXEMPTION BILL. This bill was read a second time. MILITIA ESTIMATES. . . whole he considered that the best mode of management would be to take the first clause as it stood, to rime the two commissioners under the strict control of the 't reasury, wait till they arrived at that vlause, and then the weak points of the hill could b.: removed. If his noble friend should be withdrawn front the Woods and Forests in the division of the duties—and he doubted if that would be an expedient change—he thought it desirable that the control of the Treasury should be stringent over the department of Woods and Forests. Ile should, therefore, support the first clause, but vote against the eleventh. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the ease was this :—The gentleman who had been a commissioner had resigned, on account of age and infirmity rendering ham incapable of executing the duties of his office. lie was unable, as he (Lord J. Russell) had himself seen, to •to to the various places he ought to have visited; but he had, however, thought it right to delay his resignation, in order to bear any charge that might be made against him; but as soon us theinquiry of the committee was over he sail that he really could not carry on his duties longer, and requested to be relieved. Ile (Lord J. Russell) should be of opinion that the department had been very ill-managed if that gen tleman had been continued in an office he was no longer able to till, and therefore he had appointed a person whom he believed to be fully competent to the duty. At that time he doubted of such changes as those in the Ilth clause, and had no view to the appoint ment of a surveyor-general in the bill of last year. But it might be a desirable change if one person were appointed in that department, whose duty was actually to visit the various parts of the crown lands, and, therefore, the government had taken power by the eleventh clause to make that change. But that was no reason for objecting to the whole plan. It was no objection to the plan proposed that a further improve ment tnight hereafter be made, and that the Treasury should have the power to make that improvement. Sir W. JOLLIF FE would support the proposal for leaving out the latter part of the clause. • After anue further conversation, during which the Chan cellor of the Exchequer suggested a form of words winch ho thought would better meet the object without disturb ing the general operation of the bill, Mr. GOULBURN said that if a change was to be made in the department, this he thought was the time to make it. If he were now called upon to vote, he should agree to maintaining the commissioners as they were; and when they came to the 11th clause he should oppose it. Lord J. RUSSELL explained. Ile had said it was de sirable to keep the two commissioners, but to give the go vernment the option of appointing surveyors, if thought necessary. Of the two alternatives, he should prefer the former. Upon the motion of Mr. k . MAULE, the following select committee was appointed to prepare Militia Estimates : Mr. Secretary at War, the Judge Advocate, Mr. Hawes, Mr. Bouverie, Sir William Somerville, Mr. Sidney Her bert, Mr. Cornewall Lewis, Sir John Tyrell, and all colonels of militia, with power to send for persons, palw•r.•, and re cords ; five to be the quorum. TURN TRUSTS. Mr. C. LEWlSobttinetnease --- u; bring in a bill to faci litate arrangement , for the relict' of turnpike trusts. The house tuljourned at a quarter after one o'clock. After a few words from Mr. HENLEY, The committee divided— For the amendment 7O Against it The clause was then agreed to, as were clauses 2 and 3. On clause 4, Viscount DUNCAN moved the addition of certain words —the effect of which, he said, was to carry out a resolution which he had moved and carried in that house to the effect that the gross income from the Woods and Forests and land revenues should be paid into the Exchequer, and that the expense of management should be voted in the estimates and annually submitted to parliament. Lord .1. RUSSELL said thlt which the noble lord proposed as a rnnedy would be found to be far less efficient than what her Majesty's ministers proposed. The source of evil arose from the two offices being united, the Commissioner of Woods having, in his office, the land revenues at one side, and on the other the carrying out of the necessary improvements. (Hear, hear.) Now, the remedy which her Majesty's ministers proposed was to separate those offices, and to compel the commissioners of public works to come before that house to ask for money for any contemplated improve ments. The revenues of the woods and forests by that means would all go into the exchequer. But the noble lord proposed that all the expenses of management and detail should be brought annually before the house. Now he begged the house to remember how much they had done in that way in the last few years; and he should say in conclusion, that if the proposition of the noble lord were agreed to, and the house should determine on having all public expenses laid before it annually in the shape of estimates, it would be quite impossible to take any other legislation in the course of a session. (hear, hear.) Mr. W. WILLIAMS said that the noble lord's argument was very convenient for the government. The noble lord said he wu afraid the time of the house would be wasted by considering the estimates : but how could the time of tho house be better employed ? (Hear, hear.) No less than 75 per cent. of the crown lands had been squandered. It was therefore time that they should be better managed. If they were, he believed they would produce a sum of money nearly equal to the civil list. After a few words from Mr. Rusin, Lord SEYMOUR, Mr. HENLEY, Mr. V. SMITH, and Sir H. WILLOUGHBY, Lord J. RUSSELL said he had no objection to the part of the amendment relating to the salaries of the commis sioners. The committee then divided— For the amendment Against it • 99-26 The amendment was consequently lost. That part of the amendment requiring the salaries of the commissioners, lee., to be defrayed from money voted by parliament was agreed to. The clause was then agreed to. The house resumed, and the chairman reportedp progress El 3 E. Mr. BERNAL reported to the Speaker, that whilst the house was in committee on the Woods and Forests Bill, a great disturbance was made at one of the doors of the .house. He sent the Serjeant-at-Arms to make inquiry as to the cause of the disturbance, and the answer he re turned was that a certain member or members WIN knock ing at the door. (A laugh.) The noise being continued after he had desiried that it should cease, he sent the same officer to inquire who the member was, and the answer lad if anyone could tell Odra who sideration compared with the advantages that would be de- .) '- . --L) rivet the pub i tirear, hear.). , , r• Omit. trAtaiter.) 4 :N . , OR EXERAIL gultietigrilk 'AEI bis Westminster- wa n Opetiffie h d that the bf 'this till %meld be the co su r a tt, end that at ' to 2I tituti 'of the dr Elliance . ryr but the had, %alit iewados, ow' guts • whether the elan Was that required by the • ' - \-. i ' ' . the times. • The f masadrititted, and indeed I tOisreilialbTe to the cilittay AO it mi till sot he sosireverted *et the Appeal . Court was L. Nobody knew what the tees c up by the eminent of business ; and that it was quite impossible for the Lord Chancellor to cope with that IF GLOUCESTER. amount of business without assistance. 'The question then sed to correct a statement which 'resin what way they . Amid stilted the Lord Chancellor . . . .. .. Zht earpregiO. TO CORRESPONDENTS. a Segoad Fannon of " The Espreea," containing he same even': ire " Gazette," is published eerily Tunalay and Friday night, in time for post. &devil inenta intended fur "The Exiireee," Lonilou k rrnine paper, moat be at the °thee, to, tluurcnc•oUeet, by Two us the day of publication. 111611 WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. TNIY DAT —Vorning, sh. Von A tirrnmil. tat. :!sn. Taroaauw—Horning, GIL 29ut Al tenioen, G. 57w. LONDON, FRIDAY, JULY 4. TUE Bill for the Removal of Jewish Disabilities has been read a third time and passed by the liouso of Commons, without a division, or discussion : for the low and unintelligible moan raised on the occa sion by Sir ltonnur INGLIS and Mr. PLUMPTRE in uo way deserves the name. The motive of the tones in this silent and acquies cent maticeuvre proiessedly was that the bill might be sent to the Upper House with an apparently I weaker indorsement this vear of representa tive approval than it had . borne last. Instead of a majority of fifty or upwards, the mea sure, as may be remembered, was affirmed this session, on second reading, by a preponderance of but 25. The opposition, afteeting to fear a less favourable result if they ventured to divide last night, made what they termed a solemn protest against the anti-Christian bill, and suffered the third reading to go without further impediment. As if the bishops or the lay bigots of the chamber of ob stacles were really influenceable by such transparent tricks—as if any human being could be duped i nto believing that any change of sentiment or purpose had really taken place during the last twelvemonths in the Rouse of Commons—or as if the voice of public opinion were not as audible as ever demand ing the emancipation of the Jew•. The policy was an obvious one, but it would have been too obvious for any other than a protectionist party. We must seek for the solution of the dull riddle elsewhere. It has for now a good while been very generally whispered that, to use an expressive though some what homely phrase, there was " a screw loose" in the machine. The old Carlton omnibus has been ob served to travel heavily along, and, though often not half full, to come repeatedly to a dead stop Grumblings and recriminations were overheard be tween the passengers and the driver. He was not making way, they said, though incessantly putting them in terror of their lives by his unwary short turns. What pace precisely tho disorganised company would have had their unhappy driver go, it were difficult, indeed, to say. Probably the worthies of protectionism would not have found it easy to agree upon either a gate or a road, had they been allowed to give their heterogeneous advice in council. Certain it is, how ever, that nothing is harder than to convince men of their inaptitude and incompetence who are never so consulted ; and this is reported to have been the case with the gentlemen in cluestion. For Mr. DISRAELI, like others of his intellectual kind, began to show symptoms of conscious superio rity. How could it be otherwise ? Ile found a party of 150 country gentlemen in the year 1816 in a stato of inarticulate rage, and he undertook to speak tbr them. He found them wholly destitute of ideas and reasoning faculties, and he engaged to invent new notions, and to reason about them. He found their anger disregarded and their spite incapable even of a sneer ; he undertook to do all the frowning and likewise all the fun. And what he undertook he certainly performed. For live long years he has scolded and scoffed, lashed and laughed at their an tagonists by turns, until in the present session, avail ing himself adroitly of the mutinous °audition of the liberal party, he twice succeeded in leading his men to within 15 of absolute victory in the House of Com mons. Yet at this very moment his miserable clients, with suicidal stupidity and unexampled ingrati tude, began audibly to affect to bo ashamed of the man that made them whatever as a political party they are, and almost without disguise avowed I