The Express. — London, England, 1851-04-11 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY ETENING, APRIL 11, 1851. • ._, station was one whi c h ----------- ------- T Mr. AOLION BY' sup ported the petitio ner's application upon the ground that the proceeding of. the cottinittele had V e toers in strict conformity with the act Ilth•emd: nth Vitoria, amp. OS, and aleo b'ecanse the party hid -near been heard. fhe ATTORNEY-GENE:I4A tegieklerred thlllaita ceedings of the eoelmittre bast prfectly defied e ept twin one point, which he itlpo;engied a gumlike' ei w of much nicety, and he so steal:haa minutefir.mt tif proceedings o the committee should he p`rinted, in order that the matter might be maturely considered. 'lbis amendment WAS agreed to, and the motion upon the other grounds was negatived. Mr. AGLIONISIC gave notice to move, nest d ty, that Edwards should attend the house, to be heard at the bar, concerning the matters contained in his petition. COIMNIAL EXPENDITURE. Sir W. MOLES WORTH then rose to move a duplicate resolution declaring, first, that steps ought to be taken as speedily as possible to relieve this country from the civil and military expenditure now incurred on account of the colo nies, excepting only the military stations and convicts act: tlements; and, secondly, that there ought to be given to all but those last named dependencies ample powers for local self-government, so as to set them free from the imperial interference with their affairs, which is inseparable from their present military ti ceuption. Ile began by stating the amount of the expenditure incurred by the l; cited Kingdom on account of the colonies. Ac cording to tie last return for 181 G-17 this amount was 3,500,0001. That worn consisted chie fly of two items— namely, civil expenditure, about 500.0001., military elipea-1 diture, about 3,000,0001. Under the head military ! expenditure was include the expenditure on as count of the army, ordnance, and commissariat in the colonies. There appeared to have been a large increase M that expenditure in the course of the last 20 years ; it I a mounted in 11432 to only 1,690,00 W., in 183.5 to 2,400.0001.. in 1843.4 to 2,690,0001., and in 1846-7 1 to 3,000,000 1. Therefore, if the returns were cor- 1 rect, there bad been an increase of 1,200,0001. in the colonial military expenditure since 1833. In addition to the effective military expenditure of 3,000,0041., the non-effective military expenditure had to be reckoned (hear, hear) —namely, the auto that was paid for military serviceethat had in former years been performed in the colonies; he meant the sum that had been paid in the shape of half-pay pensions and retiring allowances to soldiers who had served in the colonies, or in other words that portion of the dead weight which had been occasioned by the military force which had been maintained for the colonies. Therefore, in order to ascertain the whole &mou of the colonial military expenditure of the United King nt doms, it would he necessary to add to the effective expendi ture of 3,000,0001. a proportionate amount of the dead weight. Now in the year 1816-7, the military expen diture of the United Kingdoms had amounted to about 9,000,0001.; of that sum 6,603,0001. haul been effective expenditure ; 1,400,0301. bad been non effective expenditure ; of the 6,600,0001. effective military expenditure, ho had said that 3,000,090 f., or o.ilths, had been on account of the colonies. Ile was, therefore, entitled to reckon that 6-11ths of the dead weight had also been on account of the colonies—(hear, hear( — adding, therefore, 1,000.0001. of dead weight to 3,000,0301. of effective expenditure, the whole colouial military expen diture by the United Kingdoms fur the year 1810-7 would have amounted to 1,000,0001. (Hear, hear.) To this sum, he might quote high aathorities to prove that he was en titled to add II further sum on a.x.tunt of the expense of the entire military force, which it was uccevoary to maintain in this kingdom, in order to relieve the troops in the co. lonics. According to the system of reliefs established, for every two tegimente serving in the colonies one regiment would be required to be maintained at home to afford relief. Last year the military force in the colonies exclusive of colonial corps, which do not require to be re hewed, amounted to about 30,000 men. That force would eon...mealy require 15,000 men iu this country far their relief. it was evident, therefore, that he (sir W. Moles worth) was entitled to charge to the colonial military me count a very considerable sum fur reliefs. And to this emu he might add a further sum on as:counter native wars, re bellions, &e. It was evident therefore that he had not, over estimated the colonial military expenditure for 1816.7 when he reckoned it at live elevenths of the whole military expenditure of the Unite il Kingdoms, namely, at the sum of 4,11010001. (Hear, hear.) This was a eery large main of money, it was 9.5. in the Imam' upon our exports to the colonies in 1819; it eactediel by 643,0001 the whole of the local revenues of the colonies in that year ; it was equal to the whole sum collected by the taxes on windows and the excise duties mi soap, paper, and hops. Could that expendi ture be reduced ? Nu immediate reduction could be male in the dead weight, for its amount depended upon the amount of force which had Icon maintained in the colonies; if the niffleary fierce in the colonies were 0. he permanently re duced, then ultimately the dead weight would also be re- dueed. It was only, therefore, in the 3,000,11110 k of effec tive military expenditure that an immediate reduction could he made. Doer was that sum expended? The larger por tion edit was expended in paying clothing and maintaining the %nee* in the colonies. In the year 1816-7, the mili• tory fore: in the colonies consisted of 12,013 regular troupe, 1,937 artillery, sod 717 engineers, iu all 45,727 me e t ; a t present the military force in the colonies amounted to about 41,000, delusive of the reinforcement. which were about to he vent to the Cape of Good Hope. in 1846-7, the pay, clothing, and Mainteltilt 0 of the troops in the colonies hail cost shout 1,100,0001. These troops were dis persed over thirty-seven colonies. In each colony there was one or more military stations, in all about 1 .11; in each military station there was either a 1 letrniek, or an orelmotee, or a cominisariat establishment— ! generally all three. To these establishments were attached ! coiniaietariat officers, barrack-maters, store-keeper. clerk s of the works, and numerous wo rkmen. 'the salahes acid wages of these persons had cost for the year 1846-47. about 199,11001 (Dear.) In each station there was a store-hou.e. Each storehouse contained a quantity of stores). According to a return preseutedto the committee on ordnance expen diture, the value of the stores iu the colonial storehouses in the year 11116-17 amounted to about I,soo,oool—,lecar) • sufficient amount of stores, if they did nut perivh previ ew', of themselves, fur 2 0 years' consumption during peace, yet in that year the expenditure of the Unite .1 Kingdoms for ordnance stores fur the colonies had amounted to 140,00 0. —lit mint of the ee +dations there were either furti. Yemeni., ordnance work., or other military building... These military buildings had been erected at a great ex pense, and were kept in repair at a very considerable annual cost. According to a return presented to the enlnanee committee the sum expended on ordnance works la the interval between 1819 and 1647 had touounted to 11,500,1e01. and the outlay un ordnance "Forks and repairs for 151 6 -7 had been about 330,0001. (Hear, heart The transport of troops and stores in the NUM year coot about 110,0001. (near, hear.) Adding these items together, the sum total would be lout 3,000,0001. It was evident that the expense of these things would in a series of years he in proportion to the amount of military force maintained in the colonic; therefore to make any permanent sad considerable reduction in the colonial military expenditure of the United Kingdoms, the amount of 1 military force in the colonies must be reduced Was it nece.sary to maintain 45,700 troops iu the colonies at the expense of the United Kingdoms ? Mow were these! troops employed? A portion of them were employed in the convict colonies of Bermuda and Van Die:melee Laud ; ano- ' thee portion kept garrison in the military stations, and the remainder were stationed in the colonies, properly so called. lie would say nothing then on the general question of con vict colonies, except that troops must he kept in them to preserve order among the convicts. In Bermuda in 1816-7 the military force had amounted to about 1,360 men, and I had coot about 74,0 001 . In Van D ienien's Laud, in the lame year, the military force hail amounted to about 1,5001 men, and had cost about 93,0001. (Hear, hear..) With regard to Van Diemen's Land he had given notice that on an early occasion he would move that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majeny would be graciously pleamd to comply with the prayers of the inhabitants of Van Die men's land, by discontinuino transportation to that colony. (Hear.) If the universal prayer of the inhabitants of Van Diemen's Land were atteuded and transportation dieconti sued, that colony would cease to be a convict settlement ; and then it appeared to him, fur reasons which he would potently state, that no troops ought to bo maintained in it at the expense of the United Kingdoms, and the whole of the military expenditure on account, amounting to 93,0001., might b. weed. (Hear.) He would next proceed to the I military stations, omitting there which were situated within the Imundaries of the colonies properly so-called; the chief ' military stations were Gibraltar, Malta. the. louian Island.; the stations on the west roast of Africa, including the newly-acquired Danish ports. St. Helena. the Mauritius, Moog Kong. halmiu, and the Falkland lelands—and with them he would clam the island of Ceylon. lu the year 1816-7 fin• military force in these stations amounted to about 16.700 nun, and the effective military expenditure on account of them had been about 710.0001. Ile would not I then inquire- whether Great Britain ought to maintain a garrison in every one of these place., nor would he weary' the house by repeating is pre. ious arguments ou them subjeds. Ile must. however, observe that the motives which had led this country to acquire. military sta• BOOs are very ditfereut from thee,• which had induced this country to promote the plantation of colonies, and that the policy of Great Britain with regard to military stations was quite of a ditfereut character from its policy with regard to colonies properly so called. The motive, under the in fluence of which this country had acquired military stations might be stated in a few words. Great Britain had long hen; and. in the opiuiun elite statesmen,of its parliaments, and its people, ought to continue to be, essentially a naval power: it aspired to he the first naval power on the earth, to carry on commerce in every portion of the globe, and to protect that commerce with its &CO. It desired that those Beets should patrol the ocean and be the maritime police of mankind. lu order to refit those fleets—to afford sh.lter to them, and to give protection to its merchant ships when war was raging. it had been the policy of the statesmen of England, with the consent ;01,1 approbation of the people and parliament. to t a ke military possession of harbours in yttrium, parts of the world. A.lllllolllkg this policy to be a sound one, M. asked what were the rules which should determine the. number of our military ela tion., and the selection of their site-, ? (Ilear, hear.) lie thought the rule should be, that sukret to the condition of accomplishing the objects of the naval policy of Great I Britain. our military stations should he as few in number , es poeiilile • and that each station should be selected so as to soot as little as possible. la order that they might be as 1w in number as possible. consistently with the attainment el the objects of the naval policy of Great Britain, it was evident that they should be carefully chosen, so as Mast feadily to afford shelter and protection to Mir ships. Then lbw, t he y ought to bi situated a. near as possible to the pest emaniereial highways of We ocean ; fur it was evident *Mews well chosen station on a much frequented route wee worth scores of the beet harbour. in an out of the way ass. (User.) 10011:1118 at expense, the hest place, cater in'Sfoo. • The i'II.ANCELLOIt of the EXCHEQUER. said, if he should not he able. in consequenee of the hon. gentle man•• amen,lnemt, to go on with the resolution respecting the house and window duties this evening, he would pm teed with it as the tint business on Monday, after which he would move resolutions respecting the coffee and timber duties. BEERSHOP KEEPERS. On the motion of SirJ. Psalm...ries a return was ordered skewing the number of reroutts in earl, of the several col lections in the Uniteil Kingdom lieeined as blrt`..W, vic tualler., to sell beer to be drunk un the premises, and to sell hoer. net do be anent oa the premises, in rrh year from the year 153.1 to the year ISA. MORTALITY IN TII K E CASTLEBAIt UNION WORHOUSE. In reply to Mr. Iliatoina, Mir N. SOMERVILLE said that the information he hail received enabled him to say that the report of DI priors haring died in the Caritli-bar workhouse in three week* was not correct That number exceeded the actual mortality. Every effort was made by the guardians forth. windier and health of the inmates. lie believed that the ism of 9,10101. was due altogether for rates, but what proportion WAS due by the guardians he was nut able to my. THE GERMANIC CONFEDERATION. Lord P ALM EICS lON, in reply to an inquiry by Mr. A w , stated that her Majesty's government hail ad dressed remientniees, not only to the Courts of Vienna and Berlin, but to each and all of the states eompasWg the Dennanic coniederation. upon the subject of Mans sums in contemplation by Austria and Prussia to secure the admission into the confederation of their non (iceman territories. anti that he hail no doubt that the treaty of Vienna would he observed. With regard to a trans- 1 action of this kind, and while the matter was still pending —(hear, hear)—in a ease too. which might possibly, and he hoped would probably, end to the satisfaction of all the parties concernial, it would he highly inconvenient and dangerous to the public service to comply with the hag, inerulsees request to publish the conespondence. At:rim:yrs Al' SEA. Mr. 10.7 ME moved for a return, front Lloyd'. hooka, of all collision.. strident.. and wrecks of nl-.410. distinguish ing in columns the sailing Mm steam vessels, and speci f)ing the nature of each collision. accident, or wreck, and the number of lives lost by each. in each year, since the list of J 1417. up to the 31st of the-, IS3O 1 Mr. LABOU(' ER E had communicated with the chain man of Lloyds, and found that there was no objection to the publication of the returns asked for. llear.) THE BARREL-OEOAS NUISA NCE. Cot SIBTHORP wished to mak the right hon. barns. the Secretary for the Home Itepartment if he had read the latter sinews by an inhabitant of Bryaretton-square in tho nines (of which he had forwarded the right tuna baronet a copy), relining to the enormous horse organ at present is the habit of parading the streets ? Sir O. ORE.( had received the paper, and hail pre viously seen the letter referred tn. With reference to this subject, an order had been given to stop street mune when it was an annoyance. Colonel SIB rIIOIIP said he should take an early op portunity of calling the attentionof the house to the subject. TIIE HOUSE TAX. Ice. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said It would perhaps he convenient that he should state to the house thit he proposed to submit his resolution upon the window duties and hens...tat to-morrow and his motion for the reduction of the timber anti coffee duties oti Monday but if there was not time to take the hoax'. tax to-morrow, after the motion of the hon, member for Bucks (Mr. Disraeli), then he would do so the tint thing on Monday. (Hearst ADMISSION TO ST. PAL'L'S. Mr. HUME asked whether arrangements had been made for the tree admission of the public to St. Paul's CrthedraL The house would r,-collect that the subject had frequently been brought before them, and he wished to know what progrem had been made in the matter. Sir 0. GREY said that an arrangement had been made by which the dean and chapter had consented to open the area of St. Paul's free of charity. Ot course he referred only to the lower part of the cathedral. and not to the dome. the whispering gallery, and the like hut only to that part for seeing which a fee of 2,1. hail heretofore berm paid. In order to carry oat the nrrangement it would °Main an ostler in council, which would he r but the dean and chapter, in had alrenly opened the (oath°. (Chiserts) -.BANS ELECTION PETITION. Henry Edwards, a person committed at st. Albion election committee, praying the bank tar a ten...disable dm. the siTi4ie tribes in its neighbourhood were conducted by officers responsible to the colonial office, then the colonial —therefore the hupenal guecnitnent—must be held responsible for the result, and if that result were war, as the war would be conducted by imperial officers, as the exp. nditure on account of it would be under iinj••rial control, as all experience showed that such wars were apt to r.,-hly produced, unnecessarily prolonged, and conducted n Oil la% r.h expenditure, it would not be just to saddle the whole expense upon the colony, and a portion at least of the • . - . • imperial - expense ought to be defrayed „ by the _ government. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the preservation of order and tranquillity in a calmly, a military force might be re and e. corns, for a me _solid with' be motored in war with lawful powers, then the military difficulty be attacked, ee , ~e defended by • ! free required to defend the colonies ought to be paid Ihr smalifierrison. It wasrevideut ss_esneM conditions werebeet (mita the revenues of the empire. 3. That if it were fullilledity smell niandene peninsular extremities of eonti- : deemed expedient to keep garrisons in certain imperial lAmes. Om less connected with tee adjoining laud the better. I fortresses situated within the colonies, the tapentse of such ', He le seldel it Wale utterly absurd for nn emantially ! garrisons should also be bend by the imperial government. naval Cre to act elitit the military defence of extensive I (Hear, hear.) With the permission of the house he would epee lung lines if frontlet. .Wear.) That attempt ' now proceed to consider separately each group of colonies. ' lult*ese Made no tficeeth Afiricitorith disastrous and most and endeavour to ascertain what reductions could be made costly - results. (Heir, bear.) If similar attempts were l in the military expenditure of the United Kingdoms on made, and vast, numerous, and costly military stations were ' account of each group, by adopting and applying t he occupied by this country, he feared much that the result !, principles which he had laid down. Ile woeld beein • would be that the extremities of the empire with the North American colonies. In 1831 and in 1835 a ' would gradually drain it of its wealth and vital power; committee of the house had been appointed to inquire t that the centre would thus become paralysed ; and that, into the colonial military expenditure of the United Ifinally, the empire would fall abroad, and perish of minus- ! Kingdoms. The committee had recommended in their tion. (Hear, hear.) He thought that amongst our Mill- 1 report that the strictest economy should be observed in tary stations, those which re bese fulfilled the conditions of e every branch the the t military presented go e t te m t ditar e y .. staf ;e i to . n i s ta w ot e .... o" tts ibm te l . ta tt r, e a ; t i t t h e e mouth of m tl Acc i o t r i d ry iag f. to he in ee u t r h n o s North American o c o f r n t he m c o lonie s i co lonies t t e il d e ' Atlantic; Halifax, commanding the coast of North Am e- amounted, in 1835, to 5,36) men (including artillery, en rice • Barbadoes, among the islands of the West Indies; g ineers, and colonial cor p s), of whom 2,718 had been stn ' the 'Peninsula extremity of South Africa, on the route to tensed in Canada, 2,306 in Nova Scotia, and 315 in Now ! India; the Mauritius, on the same road, and commanding foundland. The effective military expenditure on account the Persian Gulf; Singapore, at the entrance of the Chinese of that force had amounted, in 1835, to 337,0001. It was seas; _ add perhaps Hong Kong , amidst tho s e seas. Hs evident that the committee in question had consi named these eight stations, because he was inclined to dered that amount of military force and expen believe that it was not necessary for the attainment of the diture to have been sufficient for all the require object of the naval policy of Great Britain that we smuts of the North American colonies. Since that period should keep military possession of more than these a very great increase had been made in the military force in eight stations. To garrison them as they were gar- these colonies, with a corresponding increase in the effective rimmed in 1846-7, a military force of 17,000 men military expenditure of the United Kingdoms on account would be sufficient and they would cost about 50,0001. in of them. For in 1816-7, the military force in these colonies effective military expenditure. This was about the sum had amounted to 9,743 men, and the effective expenditure which the colony of the Cape of Good Hope with its Kaffir on account of them had been 615,2131. Therefore, in wars annually costs us on the average of years. (Hear, 1846-7 the military force in these colonic, exceeded by 4,374 hear.) Ile would now proceed to the colonies, pro- men the force which had been considered sufficient in 1835, perly so called, and to which his resolutions especially and that excess had cost this country about 300,0001. Last applied. Ile meant the North American colonies, the West year the military force in these colonies had been Indian plantations, the Cape of Good Hope and the Aus- about the same as it had been in 1816-7. He under- Mohan colonies, with the exception of Van Dieman's Land, stood that it was somewhat less this year. Why till transportation to that colony be abolished. The military had the military force in the colonies been augmented/ force in these colonies in 1816-7 amounted to 26,096 men, It had been first augmented in consequence of the rebellion and they cent about 2,000,000/. in effective military in Canada. That rebellion had been occasioned by Colonial expenditure. If to this sum were added a proportionate office misgovernment, and the people of this country had amount of the dead weight, the whole military cost of these been very justly tined 2,000,0001. for it. The result of that colonies to the United Kingdom would amount to about rebellion had been that the North American colonies 2,600,0001. This sum was Bs. eiel. in the pound on our had obtained responsible government, and in fact at exports to these colonies in 1849; it was equal to the whole the present moment of they poesessed a the almo enjoyed st of the the local revenues in that year. He had heard many tro lled management eir local ff persons, who merely took an economical view of these quen- in some respects a greater amount of self-government cons, ask, why do we retain dominion over these colonies. than the neighbouring states of the American union. Would it not be better for us if they were independent; It was said that troops were necessary to prevent Canada our independent colonies of the United States coot us being annexed to the United Stetes, lie thought there 10,0001. a year, and we sent them 12,000,0001. of' exports in was no danger whatever of Canada being annexed to the 1849, or twice the value of our exports in that year, to cults- United States, unless the great majority of the people of nice which were costing us 2,600,0001., or 260 times as much Canada desired it. If they were to desire it, in his opi as the United States. Now, he answered that the greater nion it would be the greatest fully to resist annexation. portion of the expenditure on account of these colonies was (Cheering.) 2nd. It was said that troops ought to be unnecessary, or might ultimately be rendered unnecessary. kept in the North American c lonics in order to guard lie maintained that if these colonies were governed as they against any sudden aggression from the United States. Before ought to be governed, no troops ought to be maintained in any danger of that description were apprehended, the them at the expense of the Laded Kingdoms, except for house should ask what was the amount of the regular milt strictly imperial purposes, and that the expense of all tary force of the United States. It amounteol, he believed, troops required fur local purposes ought to be paid by Mat year to about 10,000 men. Now if that amount of mi the colonies. If his views were correct as to what litany force were sufficient for the whole of the vast terri ought to be the policy of this country with regard to its tories of the United States, extending from the St. Law colonies, and if that policy were perseveml in for a series of rence to the Gulf of Mexico, and from the Atlantic to the years it appeared to him that the military force maintained Pacific, it was evident that, according to the standard of the in the colones at the expense of this country might ulti- new world, very much less than half the present force of mately be reduced from 45,700 men to the men required for 10,000 men would be sufficient for the North American co the military stations. With the permission of the hou s e , he lonies. A sudden aggression from the United States was would state as shortly as he could the reasons which have only to be dreaded in the event of the colonists becoming die led hint to these conclusions, and which induced hint to ask satisfied and antiousto separate from the British empire, and the house to agree to the resolution that steps should be then, as he hail already said, it would be useless to attempt to takeu to relieve this country as speedily as possible from its retainthem ugainst their will by force of arms. On the other present civil and military expenditure on account of the hand, if sincerely attached to the British empire, they would colonies, with the exception of its expenditure on aecouut of be fully capable to resist any sudden aggression on the part military stations and convict settlements. Ever since the of the United States. 3rd. It was said that Quebec was an New VS orld was discovered it has been the unceasing desire important imperial fortress, and he had admitted that Halifax of England to plant that New World with New Enelands, was an important naval station, and therefore it wns and that its children should occupy the uninhabited parr- asserted that imperial garrisons ought to be kept in them. Mons of the earth's surface--should carry alung(with them to He asked what was the amount of military force which their new homes the lams, the iustitutions, and feelings of would he sufficient to garrison thou. two places? Accord- Englishmen ; that they should there become buldo nergetic, ing to the committee on colonial military expenditure, the and self-relying men, capable and wiling to help their garrison of Quebec in 183.5 amounted to 1,107 men, and the parents in times of need, and not weak, puling infants, garrison of Halifax, in the same year, amounted to 1,549 ever crying to their mother for assistance , and emptying her men. It was evident , therefore that three thousand five purse.(Hear.) Now it was as true of bodies of men as it was hundred men would be ample military force for all impe of individual men that the best mode of developing in them rial purposes its the North American Colonies, and energy, courage, and self-reli ince was not to cuddle and by reducing the military force in these colonies to 3,500 fondle them, and to tie them to a mother's apron, but to men, a saving might be made in the effective military ex throw them upon their own resource", and to let them penditure of this country, compared to that of 1846-7, to the rough it and battle it with the world. (near, hear.) There- amount of nearly 400,0001. a year. With regard to the fore it was the old policy of this country with regard to West Indian colonies, there are 16 of these colonies. The plantations, and is still the recognised constitutional doe- military force in those colonies in 1816-7 amounted to 6,261 trine with regard to them, that their inha b it ants should men, about the same number of troops as was stationed in take care of themselves, and manage their local affairs, and those colonies last year. The military expenditure on ac. govern themselves by representative institutions. (Hear, count of those colonies in 1846-7 was 496,000 e, and accord' hear.) Now most of our colonies, properly so called, did ing to a return presented to the committee on Onlnance possess representative institutions, and all of them were expenditure between 1829 and 1847, 600,0001. were spent in about to posses those institutions. (Hear, hear.) those colonies on Ordnance works. When slavery existed With such institutions their inhabitants could nut constitu- it might have been necessary to maintain a large meanie'r of tionelly be compelled to contribute out of their taxes to troops in those colonies in .order to keep down the slaves the revenue of the United Kingdoms ; in like meaner, the and to preserve tinier and peace among them. Yet, in 183'2 people of the United Kingdoms ought nut to called upon to when slavery existed, the military force in those colonies defray out of their own taxes any portion of the local had only exceeded by 1,500 men the military force main expenses of such colonies. It followed, therefore, that all tained in them in 181 6 -7, and the military ex p enditure of expenses in such colonies for local purposes ought to be 1832 had exceeded that of 1816-7 by only 32,0001. paid out of the local treasury; and all expenses in such With the cessation of slavery, the necessity for a colonies for imperial marmoset ought to be paid out of the military force to keep down the slaves had ceased. the imperial treasury. (Hear, hear.) Therefore, if a At present the negro race were well contented military force were required in such celonies fur local cur- and happy. But supposing that a military force were re pone, the local legislatures should determine the amount of quintet in those colonies to preserve internal order, it would force to be maiiiteined, and should pey fur it; un the other follow from the principles which he had laid down that the hand, if a military force were required in such colonies for expense) of such a force ought to be paid by the colonists, imperial purpose's its expense should be paid by the United for most of them possessed representative institution% and Kingdoms. (ilea, hear) Now the question was, I the management of their local affairs; therefore they ought amongst the various purposes for which a military to defray ell expenses ineuered for local purples , and troops force might be required in a colony, whet were required to preserve internal order in a colony were cvi those which ought to be considered as imperial destiny required for local purposes. Then, were any troops purposes, and what were those which ought to be con- required in the West Indian colonies for imperial purpoos ? entered as local purposes. Now, the only purposes for •It was sometimes said that these colonies were in danger which a military force could be required in a colony were from the United States of America. Upon this subject he either to war with external fin's, or to preserve order and I could only repeat what he hail tend with regard to the pears within the colony. (Ilene , hear.) First, with regard , North American colonies, namely, that there was no danger to war with external foes. A military force might be on of aggression from the United States, unless the colonists quire(' in a colony in consequence of its being engaged or themselves desired separation from us; that if their inha. being likely to be engaged in war with a lawful power (to bitants wished to separate from the British empire and join use the language of the law of nations), or with savage the United States, it would net be worth while to retain tribes. (liver, hear.) It was evident that a colony could them by force of arm,; and that the best and most effec not be lawfully engaged in war with a lawful power with- tual mode of reteining them was to attach them out the whole empire, of which it was a part, being also en- to, the empire by good government. It was evident also gaged in that war. Therefore 1.11 ouch wars were necesea. that as the West Indian colonies we're chiefly islands, a rely imperial wars, the troops requited for them were re- naval force would be the best means of defending them. In mitred fur imperial purposes, tied therefore the cost of them 1816 7 the number of troupe in Jamaica was 1,692 men, and would have to be paid out of the imperial revenue. (Hear, in Barbadoes, 1,3-53 men. It was evident, therefore, that hear.) In certain eases, however, it would not be unrea- 3,000 troops would be sufficient for all imperial purposes soneble to expect that the colonies should assist the mother in the West Indian colonies, and consequently, as the mill country with both money said troops (hear, hear) tary force in thew colonies amounted to about 6,000 men, —and he had nu doubt that with good government they that force might be reduced to half its present amount, would willingly aid the mother country in any just and with a saving in military expenditure of shut 250,0001. necessary war. if the relations o!the colony with savage tribes a year. Next, with regard to the Australian colonies. in its neighbourhood were convected by officers responsible lie had made an exception of Van Diemen 's Land, to the local government, then it was evident that the local because convicts were transported to that colony ; and as 1 government ought to be held responsible for the result, and they were sent there for the suppmed benefit of the people If that result were war, and thf war were conducted by of the United Kingdoms, it was but fair that the Imperial local officers, and the expenditure on account of it were government should pay for the troops which were required I under local control, then it imp:aced to hint that the whole to keep order among the convicts. (Hear.) lie teemed 1 expense of the war ought to be defrayed out of the local the Under-Secretary for the Colonise; to give his serious revenues, and no portion of it ought to be paid by the consideration to these facts, unless it was the intention of 1 people of England. (Hear, hear.) When the local Lord Grey to repeat in Van Diemen's Land the farce which government had to pay fur such wars it would be their had been acteel at the Cape of Good Hope with re interest not rashly to engage in them, and when engaged in gard to transportation, and to yield to threats and them to bring them to a termination as speedily as menaces what had been refused to prayers and entreaties. powible, and at the smallest possible cost. (Ilea, hear.) (Hear, hear.) On the continent of Australia the Unfortunately that was not t he case when the imperial go- military force in 1816.7 had amounted to 2,236 men, verninctit had to pay for those wars. For then it was the and had cost about 92,0001. The greater portion of that interest of many persons in the colony that there should be force had been stationed in New South \Vales, and had the greatest possible amount of imperial expenditure. since loco withdrawn. lie was glad to see from the papers (Hear, hear.) It woe impossible fur the imperial govern- which had been laid upon the table of the house, that ment at home to check that sxpenditure. No one in this Lord Grey intended to apply to a great extent to New country had a distinct idea how 2,000,0001. were spent in South Wales and Victoria the principles which, in his the last Kettle war. (Hear.) Sir 11. l'ottiager had said (Sir Winiem Molesworth's) ri , pinioon, ought to regulate the that it was irnposeihle to give an adequate idea of the con. military expenditure of the Lnited Kingdoms on account fission, unauthorised expense, and attendant peculation of similar colonies. Lord Grey hail announced that, with which had existed during th at war. (Hear.) The cos- the exception of a small guard in the capitals of New missioners of audit had been unable to audit the accounts, South Wales and Victoria, no troops were to be mein for no) accounts had been forthcoming. .(Laughter.) It Mined in those colonies at the expense of the United King was also difficult ter the imperial officers en the colony to dome, and in a despatch addressed to the indenter of New resist the claims poured in upon them from every quarter. South Wales, the noble earl wrote that "if a larger I lie must observe, however, on the other hand , that amount of force be required, the local legislature must if the inhabitants of the eobny did not possess representa- either make provision for raising a more considerable body tire institutions if they had no voice in the menagement of police, or provide for the pay and allowances of their local atfairs, if they were governed directly from ; of an additional n umber of her Majesty's regular army " Downing-street, if the relations between the colony an d I A considerable portion of the , troops which * ... . . ~... . - . -- Soul`Lord Gr di- statioued in New ...nth Wales had, by __.— .trey's c e etions, been transferred to New Zealand. In 11116-7, the military force in New Zealand had amounted to 1,629 men, and had cast about 015,000/. Since then it had Iran con siderably increased. In UM it had amounted to 2,0111 men, costing, he presumed, about 150,0001. a year, exclusive of the 20,0001. or 30,0001. a year which the house had annu ally to vote in the miscellaneous estimates for the civil ex penditure of that colony. The house must acknowledge that that was a preposterous amount of expenditure, when they heard that in the northern it . where all the troops avy bean., a island, were stationed, the number of adult European males, not soldiers, amounted °ago 3,1.57 men, exceeding the num ber of ' 'Hear, hear.) And, in ~ . .. quired in a colony to suppress riots, ...al put down immerse- , os- -. troops by only mcu. (Hear, ...-. , .__ , prophecies produced much excitemeos ... ___ teens. The question was, whether the whole expense of ' fact, in the northern province, New Ulster, the number of Si r Harry Smith and Colonel Mackinnon, on the contrary, such a force ought to be borne by trie colony, GT a portion' military in 1318 h a d amounte d to 1,798 men , and exceeded attributed the excitement in Kaffirlarid to the efforts of Sir of it ought to be defroza by the imperial government? It by 293 men the number of adult European mal es nut mili- Harry Smith to overthrow the authority of the native appeared to him that tli an-over to this question depended nary. Lastly, he would consider the military costof our South chiefs. Without attenipting to decide which opinion upon t h e na t u r e of the government of a colony; fur riots African possessions. The committee of 1834 on colonial I was right, certain it was that great excitement and imurrections were a-nmst invariably the consequence of military expenditure had approved of a reduction of six did exist last autumn amongstthe Kattirs in British bad government. Therefore* if the inhabitants of a colony men per company in the military force which was then stn- Kaffroria. That excitement produced much alarm among hail representative institution' , and the management of tioned at the Cape of Good Hope, and it then amounted to the frontier farmers ; that adman was increased by finding their local affairs, they night to be held responsible for the about 2,000 men, and cost in 1632 about 100,0001. Since' their Kaffir servants suddenly leave them. They began, result; and if that result were bad government wish riots then there had been a large increase, both in the military' therefore, to take precautions against an attack from the 1 and insurrections, they ought to pay the ecat of the troops force and expenditure for that colony, chiefly in consequence Kaffirs; and those precautions, according to Sir Harry required to preserve order and tranquillity. (hear, hear.) of Kaffir wars. In 1831 there had been a Kaffir war, with Smith, alarmed the Kafii-s, who thought that the Boers lOn the other hand, if the inhabitants of a colony did not a military expenditure of about 210,0001. In 1816-7 there were going to attack them. In the midst of this alarm and possess representative institutions, if they tad not the ma- had been another Kaffir war. We had had 6,196 regular excitement, Sir If. Smith wrote to Lord Grey on the 14th nagement of their local affairs, if they were governed troops in the colony. and expended on them 68.5,0001.—a October last, that though "he attached no importance to 1 di rec tly by the Colonial-office, the Column-office—there- . sum amounting to 265. in the pound on our exports to that this excitement," he would proceed at once to the frontier, 1 fore the imperial government—ought to be held responsible colony in 184 J, and equal to three times its local revenue. ' and, on his arrival, he would report without delay. Ac- I for the result, and if the result were misgmernmeut, with (Hear.) The last Katlir war cost us 2,000,0001. at least. 1 cordingly, he wrote to Lord Grey on the 21st October, and : ri o ts and insurrections, then it na, but fair taut the extreme The present Kaffir war seemed to be even mom stated that " his lordship need he under no apprehension of !of the troops required to pr , serve order aid tranquillity , formidable than the last ; and, therefore, was likely an outbreak," and that a meeting of Kaffir chiefs " should be paid by the 1. tided Kingdoms. (Hear, hear.) to cost a still larger sum of money. (Hear, hear.) had been summoned for the 26th of October, when `The last Kaffir war, with a bill for two millions,, He wished to call the most serious attention of the house to he, Sir Harry, would explain to them their true sa us thinking about giving the Cape representative the subject of the present Kaffir war, for it illustrated and position. That meeting had very important consequences. iu-titutions. The present Kaffir war, with mother bill fur , confirmed all the positions which he had endeavoured to The great Gaika Kaffir chief Sandilli did not attend it. He two millions, would turn us all into Lyeurguset and Solon,. I maintain ; and its outbreak had been one of the chief reasons had been informed that Ito was accused of being on friendly (Hear, hear.) I which had induced him to give notice of the resolution terms with the witch doctor, and he knew that an attempt were valid, they warranted him in coming to the conclulf the arguments which he had just used ..1 which he should have the honour to propose to the house. had liven made by the order of Sir Harry Smith to seize the s'on-1. That a military Circa ought not to he maintained IHe must, therefore, ask the indulgence of the house whilst witch doctor. Sandilli declared that he was afraid of at at the expense of the ended Ki , adonis in any of the cola- he made some observations on the subject of that war . tending the meeting lest he should be put into pri : nie., properly s. , called, after it had received renresentutive There were three important questions with regard to it— son, for that onto before, when he had attended 1 institutions, either for the purpose of earrYiag on war with l i t , who wo u ld have to p a y for It; what had led to it, and , a meeting , he had been put into pri s on . He, there savage tribes or of reserving internalordernaderaaquillity. who was to blame for it ; and, thirdly, what steps i fore, disobeyed Sir Harry Smith's order. Sir Harry I immedia 2. That when the British empire was engaged or likely to should be taken to relieve this country from any future tely issued a proclamation deposing Sandilli from he es:croon to obtain an or don, early aa puiseible ; antwipitain of that order. dral without chance. (Cho THE. ST. ALBANS A petition from Henry E the instance of the St. Alb+ fro he tisane, occupied iiimmionEl■lll IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOOK OF LORDS.—TuutsuaT, Mut. 10. The Lunn CllASclal.l.oll oink hi. 11F.0 at bee o'clock. PETITIONS PRESENTED. Haneoua OF HRTIUR ov THR COAST. —By the NATI of CAWDOR, from Pembrokeshire, complaining of the want of a harbour of refuge nu the Welsh mast. MUTINY BILL AND MARINI . : MUTINY BILL. On the motios of the Duke of WILLING/ON these bills were severally read a third time, and ea.sed• APPItIiN TICES AND SERVANTS BILL. On tlia flu .tion of the Earl of Cautistt this bill passed through committee, mid was reported to the home. MARItlAtiEs IN INDIA. The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented a petition from the 0 Assembly of the Free Church of Scot land, praying that some alteration might be made with respect to the law of marriage in India. At present it was doubtful whether marriages solemnised there by other than clergymen of the Church of England were legal. laird BROUGHTON said the attention of the govern ment had be,n directed to the subject, and he intended be fore long to introduce a measure to remove the evils com plainer' of, and which he thought would give satisfaction to both houses of parliament. MILLS ANT) FACTORIES (IRELAND) BILL. was re On the motion of th and pase Marquisd. of CiAssteautin this bill ad a third time se COUNTY COUUR RTS IS EXTE DICTIONNSION (EQUITY J). Lord BROUGHAM laid on the table a hill to give ori ginal equity jurisli tion to the county c ourts with reference pervmdty to • limited extent. The bill was then read • first time. I/ESIONS ACT EXTENSION DILL. On the motion of Earl GRANTILLII the Commons' Amendments to this bill were agreed to. COU NT Y COURTS VU Kull Elt EXTENSION BILL. The report nn this hill was brought up. BRITISH GUIANA. Lord STANLEY postponed until Monday the petition which he had given notice to present from British Guiana, praying for a retires .ntative government. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. The Earl of MALMESIIIIitY presented a number of ret i t inn.. complaining of agricultural distress, mod expressed Ye indignation at the apathy evinced by ministers on this subjce., and egveially at the omission of any proposal for relief in the bedeck of the Chancellor of the Etcheguer. SIP.RCHANT SEAMEN'S FUND. The Earl of ELLENBOROVOII wished to ask the aohle earl (Graneille) whether it was the intention of the government to introduce in the present session same measure for the reirolotion of the Merchant Seamen's Fund Earl GRANVILLE agreed that the mode of levying contributions on the seamen wan unequal. The government latend..l to have introduced a bill on the oubject at the commencement of the eession, hut they had not done be cause the temper shown by the seamen in the trite disturb oatm left no hope that they would art harmoniously. Ile trusted shortly to he able to give the noble lord some more 'Misr irtory information, hot ho could not pledge himself to intraday , a RO,toHe the, ve.viori. EAsTEIt RECESS. HOU-AILI SE orItNMENT OF THE Earl GREY said that at the rising of the hoiase on Mon day nett hi should move the adjournment until Thunday, the lit of May neat. Their lord:Mos then, at sir &cloth, adjourned. HOGS(: OF C()MMONS.—Turit+D‘T, APRIL 10. The SenteSil took the chair at 4 ' clock. Nv.mr MEMBE,. Mr. fiY.ACII, the new member fur Coventry, took the oath , and hie ..it. The hem. member war introduced by Mr. W. Williams RandlV Mr. Sr-h.-dello-4d. PATE BUSINESS. 011EITLTI, ItOTIIIIIIIIAM, BAItNSLEY. WAKE FIELD,.IE III; DDRItSVIELD, AND GOOLE RAIL WAY 1111.1, This hill was reported, and an additional clause war Isirouslit up awl agreed to. 1'11141,1C RUMNESS. rto , FK-sTitiocr SAVINIr3 BANK. Mr. ILKY NOUS.; save notice that to-morrow he should move for a return, .Lowing how the sum of 30,11002., voted by the house on the 2nd Aintree. 1)4.14), for the relief of the depositors in the Culfe-street Sayings Dank had been diepord ..f (*ONDITION Mr. SCULLY sato notice that, on an early day after muter, hr should rdl the attention of the house to the serious oli•tres of all chweris in Wand, and particularly the owner. and oreupiers of land, and move that it is espedient that the several hoards of guardian , be empowered to em ploy paupers in reproductive works. 440141511 OBSEItVANCY.S. Sir B. lIAI.I. gave notice that on the order of the day for p.m into committee on the Kerlesiastital Titles Bi l l. be should ask the Vint Lord of the Treioury whether any leer had been taken by the arehlri.lorps and bishops, in pennon, 14 the letter written to them by the Secretary of State for tho Dome 14purtment, by direction of her 1 Maje , ty, for the ruppreioron of Itiorni.li oleartuners in the church. 11, took the opportunity of statins, in pl•tire to the 1t... Arthur Wagner, that he had received a letter from him, stating that there mind have been some nibtake is reference to the charge male ageing him, 'awaitsu nei ther no the °erasion of the boleros of Lonl loodes borough's child, not on soy other oron whatever, had he not onplated the heption of a child by iminer.ion. Mlt. DISItAKLI'S MOTION ON Burio)ENs ON LAND. Mr. DISILAKI.I took an opportunity of stating, that in eonsluence of a miseirpnhen.ion which lad taken placer to the object of his minion thi. eienine, he had felt it ne cessity to make a slight ultenition in Da terms. It VIAI , posod that hi• intended hi. amendment tu operate as a de feat of the repeal of the windows duties, hut he hod on ,och istention, not being at all oppow.l to the repeal of thou. dune. In movins, therefore, that in the application of any surplus revenue emotion ,hould he directed to the asticul tarsi mt.-testi, he would leave out the words •• in the brat expense on account of similar wars. With regard to i the rank of chief. On the 31st October Sir Harry announced the first question, it appeared to him that if the , this event to Furl Grey, and assured the noble earl that principles which he had laid clown were correct, 1 Sandilli possessed "neither influence nor respect among we were not entitled to throw the whole burden of the pre- ! his people." Never dill Sir Harry Smith make a more in tent Ketfir war upon the colony of the Cape of Good Hope, I correct statement. (hear, hear.) The attempt to capture and that we were bound to bear a very considerable portion Sandilli heed twice moiled an outbreak of the Katfirs. of the espenses of that war. Because the inhabitants of the They rose one and all to defend him last winter, and there Cape of Good Hope did not possess representative imaitu- was not a man among them who would nut gladly Lions, they had not the management of their local aline rush between a bullet and the person of Sandilli. Secondly, we were not entitled to throw the whole In the same despatch Sir Harry Smith stated, with expense of this war upon the colony of the Cape of Good reference to the deposition of Sandilli, that "a crisis Hope, because it hail broken out in British Kaffraria,which , had arrived which would test his system ;" that " he had no is no part nor portion of the colony of the Cape of Good apprehension of the result ;" that the Kettles " were u fully llope, hut a separate province, governed by Sir II wry sensible of their position 71.1 the most civil seel beings roil Smith, under a commission separate from that under when be ;" that " every Kaffir who peseesseel anything was a sup he was governor of the Cape of Good Hope. Having porter of the present government ; ' and that "if the chle' answered the question who ought to pay for this war, he had endeavoured to excite the temple, they had signally proceeded neat to the question, what hail been the failed." In the next despatch, elated Gth November, he causes of that war, and who was to blame for it. lie thought assured Lord Grey that the crisis had passed most happily, the papers which had been lately presented to the house and that, therefore, he should leave the frontier, and return clearly proved one of two things: either that Sir H. Smith to Cape Town. On his arrival there, he wrote again to and thereto e Lord Grey, were very ignorant of the state Lord Grey, on the Nth November, assuring the noble lord of British Kaffraria, and of the feelings of the Kaffirs, or that "he had kit British Kaffraria in a state of perfect that the outbreak had been produced by hie mismanage- tranquillity ; the Kaffir people fully utistied, and the chiefs ment. The despatches which he then held in his hand were expressing similar feelings." In the same despatch he in delivered to hon. members at the commencement of this formed Lord Grey that lie was g sing to organise in the session. In every one of them Sir 11. Smith described in colony of the Cape of Good Hope a rural police, glowing language—Meat, hear)—" the unprecedented analog ous to the Kaffir police, which had been so state of tranquillity "of British Kaffraria. lie consoled " remarkable efficient in British Kaffraria." According to Lord Grey for the failure of his attempt to transport con- the last accounts almost every one of the Kaffirjtnlice had eicts to the Cape of Good Hope by the gratifying intelli- deserted to the enemy—'hear, hear)—with their horses, genie that " everything progresses most satisfactorily on arms, and ammunition. Whereon Sir Harry Smith moral the eastern frontier of this colony," that the Kaffir police ewe in the following strain "Thus is again recorded in was most useful, that frontier depredations were almost un- history another instance of the danger to be apprehended known, that "we are overcoming witchcraft"—(" hear," from arming men from hostile populations"—(laughter)-- and a laugh)—and that " the Kaffir, were con- and with this sentiment in his mouth Sir Harry Smith pen tented and happy under the Briti s h rule." Lord ceeded forthwith to order the governor of Naha to arm and Grey was delighted at that intelligence, and the lead into the field against the Amagerku 3,000 learners noble lord declared that he had no doubt of the of the hostile population of the Amazoolahoo. (Hear, herr.) wisdom of Sir Harry's arrangements and of their beneficial To return however to his (Sir W. alulesworth's) narrative, results. Alas, all was changed—the wise arrangements of the perfect tranquillity which Sir Harry Smith described in Sir Harry Smith were upset, the frontier system of Lord his despatch of the 2Gth of November did not continue long. Grey was a failure ; the sanguine anticipations of the noble On the sth of December he wrote, "My deer Lord limy. earl were diseprinted; the Elysium of British Kaffraria The quiet I had reported in Kettirland, and which I had so had become a fartarus ; our pockets were in the act of much and AO just grounds to anticipate, is nut reulised. being picked—our surplus revenue was disposed of, and the I start this evening, the moment I rearh King William's Colonial-office nolonger exulting, but at its wits' ends, came Town you shalt hear front me." Accordingly on the crying to parliament for a committee to tell it what to do. 12th of December he' unite again and assured laird Grey Vs hat were the causes which had led to this sad change ? that "he perceived little or no difficulty in restoring tr.:m ile thought they might be classed under three heads:-Ist. quillity." Lord Grey was delighted at receiving this des- Encroachmeuts by Europeans on the lands of the Kettles; patch, for, in reply, he wrote how "glad he was to learn secondly, the frontier system of Sir Harry Smith, approved that all immediate danger of an outbreak was at an end." of by the Colonial-office, and which consisted in a Unhappy Lord Grey! This letter was written on the sth perpetual and irritating interference with the affairs of March. The next day he received intelligence that thu of the Katfirs, and in an increasing attempt to sub- outbreak had commencea with fearful violence. (Hear) yeti the influence and authority of their chiefs. (Hear, It was evident, therefore, that the two persons who ought hear.) to have been pre-eminently well informed in these matters Lord J. RUSSELL—No, just the reverse. were pre-eminently ignorant. One, Sir Harry Smith, was Sir W. MOLESWORTH —The noble lord might think either stone blind to all that was going on around hint, or so, but that was in consequence of the state of ignorance this outbreak hail been caused by his mitmanagement. in which the government was on the subject. (Hear, hear.) The other, Lord Grey, eeposed blind confidence in the The third cause was the complete ignorance of Sir H. wisdom of Sir Harry Smith's arrungements. The next Mill Smith, and the consequent ignorance of the Colonial-office, last despatch to which he should refer displays in the highest of the feelings which the Kettles entertained with respect degree the blindness of Sir 11. Smith. It wee dated the 20th to Sir Harry and his proceedings. Now, first, almost all December last, four clays before the commencement of disputes between Europeans and native tribes might be the war. It began with an account of a meeting of traced directly or remotely to encroachments by Eunmeans T' Slambie tribes (who dwelt in the n i ighbourh oostated o d Hat ng on the lands of the natives. Thoseeencroachmentsdrove William's Town) with Sir Smth. away the game of the hunter tribes and curtailed the pas- " the conduct of the chiefs and the feelings nt the aetwoubled tures of the pastoral races. Thus deprived of their MC4/01 people were all that he could possibly desire. The chiefs of subsistence, the native races must either starve or en- expressed their determination to to adhere faithfully to thu coach upon the lands of other tribes a nd war with them, present order of things , and obey her Majesty." Ace or they must rob and attack their European fore. The cording to the last amount+ they had fought against our timid, the weak, and the gentle races laid down and troop., and interrupted the communicatiiine with King died. The tierce and energetic resisted. Among us Williams Town. In the same despatch Sir Harry stated rages few excelled the Katfirs in tiger courage and that he" hail received accounts of a very improved charae audacity, and they had often declared that they ter es regards the conduct of the Tanthookie chiefs," " and preferred death by our sword and bullets to death by starve- he looked forward with every eonlidence to being able to tion. The Kaffir, like the Scot, had deemed it an honour- restore general harmony and tranquillity." Lastly, in this able act to steal cattle from his foe ; and the Dutch, like same despatch, Sir Harry deeeribes his great meeting the English, had not been slow to retaliate. The Dutch with the linens tribe, on the 19th of Decemlter, Ilarr at which Were, encamped in military villages, had been able not 3,000 Kettles were preitent. According to Sir y, the only to defend themselves but as their numbers had in- meeting went off in the most satisfactory and gratifying creased, they hail gradually pushed the Katfirs back. In 180 E manner. He informed Lord Grey that it was evident " that we had taken final possession of the Cape of Good Hope. We Sandell and other Gaika chiefs had endeevouriel to "excite soon began to interfere with the border system of the the people against the present rule ;" " that they heel sig- Dutch, and to establish military posts on the frontier nally failed ;'" that the people saw the advantages they with garrisons of regular troops. The imperial eependis derived from theepresent state of thinge;" "that they wire' lure ou account of thow garrisons had attracted very many tranquil, coutenileilemil happy ;" that he anticipated that Europeans to the frontier. The presence of the troops en - his *system would he perpetuated, and he declared that hu eourazed, facilitated, rind hastened the encroachments of "had every confidence in the pntspert before him." Four the European+ on the lands of the Kaffirs, and on various days after this despatch was written the Gaikei rose in pleas we took possession of their territory, and claimed anus, defeated Col. Mackinnon, then sisentundiel Sir IL authority over their chiefs. The Kaffirs resisted, stole Smith in Fort Cox, and then repulsed Col. Some i rset H when the cattle of the colonists and committed numerous de ire- he attempted to open rommunieetions with Sr arry. dations. The colonists retaliated, the troops were called Now, what heel made the tiaikae rie in arms ? Ile had out, and a Kaffir war ensued. With the termination of said it already; it was the attempt to rapture Kendall. each war we added to our territories, and thus wowed the Sir 'terry Smith, soon cutler his arrival in the seeds of another war. As war followed on war, the Kaffir* colony, aeeembleil the Katfirs at King William's Town. At improved in the art of war, acquired something of the skill those meetings, which took place ill Deeeuuber, 1847, `and of their opponents, and learnt the use of European wea- Januery, 1818, Sir Harry Smith pretended to depose en pans. Therefore, successively every Kaffir war had he- &Ili from the rank of gneit chief, and to appoint himself come more formidable than the preceding one, requiring the Inkoli lnkulu of the Katfirs. He did ste with the more troops, and costing a larger sum of money. strangest ceremonies. Ile described to Lord Grey his pro- On the conclusion of the war in 1847, Sir IL Smith, (veilin4 on one occasion in the following words:—'• rho with the sanction of the Colonial-office, had added to Kaffir, being arranged iu a circle, 1 rule into the nedst of the colony of the Cape of Good Hope on its north-eastern them. hearing in my right lentil a nergeant's halberd, well side the provinces of Victoria and Albert, containing about sharpened, the emblem of war; in my left hand a magic 3,600 square miles. Beyond these provinces , still to the north- wand, my baton of peace and authority, surmounted with cast, Sir Harry Smith had added to our South African do- a brass knelt. I directed each chief to route forward and minions, but not to the colony of the Cape of Guod Hope, touch whichever he pleased; it was immeterial to theterritoryof British Kaffraria, in which the present war had me. They all touched the symbol of peace. Thin commenced, and which contained abort 3,900 square miles. each chief kismet my foot— (laughter) exclaiming Nut content with these acquisition., Sir It. Smith had then " Limon inkulu.' I then shook hunch with each, never crossed the mountains which guarded the northern frontier having done an before. Three cheers wire given, and thus of the Cape of Good Hope, and hail taken pose - wenn of the I commenced the foundation of the improvement of their whole tract of eoun!ry between them and the Orange river, social rendition." (Laughter.) At another meeting he an area of the eize of England, containing about 50,000 made the Kaffir chiefs swear "to obey his commands," square miles of as barren a desert as any on the face of the "to distsclieve in witchcraft," " nut to buy wives," :end earth. (Hear, hear.) That desert had made our nothern every year to give a fat ox to her Majesty. On the seine flank secure against the attacks of barbarians. Having un- occasion he treated the Kaffirs to a little majoring. Ile covered that flank, Sir H. Smith, still travelling northward, had a waggon stationed on au eminence at a considerable had trussed the Orange river in pursuit of the rebel beers. distance, with no ono wheteoever near it. NOW, said Sir These beers had fled from Colonial-office oppression to Harry to the Kaffirs—he (Sir W. Molesworth) quoted Sir Natal. 'there we had first permitted them to establish a Harry'. own words : You dare to nuke war—you dare to govenunent, then we had sent our troope to subdue them, attack our waggons! Sec what I will do if you ever dare and thus had added to our dominions 10,000 square miles, to touch a waggon or the oxen belonging to it. Do you see situated on ten harbourless ocean, with Kaffirs on one side, that waggon, I say ? Now hear my word. Fire ! (The and their kinsmen, the equally warlike Zoolahs, on theother wagiton is blown up.) Ah ! dot you see the waggon now ? side. In consequence of our having taken pos./oriole of that and you would and shall be blown up with it if you ever worthless territory, the been tied again and crossed the again attempt to touck another; w, be good, and believe in mountains to the plains of the interior. Sir harry Smith, your father." (Laughter.) Sir harry said that the as he had said, pursued them, defeated them, and pro- estonishment of the Kathie at this trick was excessive • and claimed the sovereignty of Great Britain over all the plains so ought to have heenlemlfirey'swheo he read it. Sir finery between the Great Orange River and the Vaal or Yellow also harangued them in speeches full of bombast and rho- River,an areaufabout 4/4,000 square miles,with a frontier of dominttade, with a mixture of religiou, or rather of bias -600 miles exposed to the incursions of Zoolahs and ether phemy, beginning with a curse and ending with a prayer, tribes of the 'tame origin as the Kettles. Again sonic of the much after the fashion of a mock oration of a trooper of boers fled northwards and crossed the Yellow River, and if Cromwell. Thus by alternately coaxing and threatening we persevere-el in our policy of pursuing therm we should the Katfirs, by alternately praising and reviling them, by have to follow them to the mountains of the Moon, and to playing u p all manner of fantastic and mountebank tricks, add to our dominions all Africa south of the tropics. Thus by aping - the manners of the savage, Sir Harry thought to Sir Harry Smith, with the sanction of the Colonial-office, Kaffir% and to impose upon them ; but the Katfirs had, since 1817, added 105,000 square miles to our South laughed at him, turned him into ridicule, and impowil upon African possessions, an area nearly equal to that of the hint. At the great meeting of the 19th of December last. Sir United Kingdom", and our South African empire now Harry acted a somewhat similar farce. According to the covers the vat spice 0282,000 sem ire miles, an area equal reports of the colonial newspapers, he denounced Sandell to the whole of the Austrian empire including Lombardy as a rebel and an outlaw, and offered a reward of 5001. for and adding Piedmont to it. Ile calculated that on the his capture. The Giulia chiefs remionstrated, and entrisiteel frontier of that empire there was a line of 1,000 miles ex- him to show mercy to Sandilli. Sir Harry deelariel that he posed to the attacks of savages of the same blood as could not do tot, for if he were to show merely to Sandilli the Karlin, and as fierce, warlike, and energetic as the great Queen of England would cut off his (Sir Harry's) the Kitties. As yet we had fought only with the head—(laughter)—and that ho would net line leis head for Kaffir*, along a line of 200 miles: but the same causes such arebel as Sandilli. The next day Sir Harry pro which gave birth to ware with the miles; were coming claimed a successor to Sandilli, and wrote to Lord Grey into operation along the whole of that frontier of 1,000 that he had every couffilence in the prospect before SS* miles, and were likely, in course of time, to embroil us with Two days afterwards, in the posheript to the semi , yeah, all the native tribes which he had mentioned. Ile dared he assured Lord Grey that the beat feeling pervaded tee not attempt to calculate what it would cost us to defend Kaffire, and that the (Likes were much pleased with Isis that frontier with regular troops, in the same manner as we conduct. Finally, on the 24th, aniline that no Kaffir would had defended the north-eastern frontier of the Cape of Good betray hie chief, even for the enormous reward of 5002., Sir Hope. To defend those 200 miles, we had spent of late Harry tient Colonel Mackinnon with a force of 587 men, years not less than 600,0001. annually. From those data, to capture Sandilli. That expedition failed, as a simile hon. gentlemen might calculate what the defence of 1,000 one had failed in 1817. The CLiiku TOW in defence of mike would cost. Having referred to " Boundary their chief; they attacked our arena in a narrow defile, disputes Iwtween Dutch farmers and Tanshookine" from which our troops were with diffieulty extricated with Sir William alidesworth went on to observe that serious loss. Then the Kaffire destroyed the military vie there was a belief in Katfirlancl, as there was in cer- loges on the frontier, slaughtering the inh a bitants ; next Lain parts of this country, that certain persona called witches they surrounded Sir Harry Smith in Fort Cox, owing to and certain things called bewitching things could cause in- which accidental circumstance (to use the strange langueze jury to human beings and to cattle and could prevent the of the hon. gentleman the Under Secretary of State for the falling of rain. The Kaffirs also believed that there were Colonic!) Sir 11. Smith was for /several days prevented from certain persons called witch doctors, who could discover communicating with the colony. Nest the Kaffir,' repule . I witches and bewitching things. Now the Kettles attributed General Somerset in his attempt tee open communieetiee . the drought of last year to witches, and a great witch doctor with Fort Cox. Finally, Sir Harry Smith escaped, and •C appeared in British Kaffraria. lie pretended, like Sir Harry the 31st of December rearhed King Williaan's Town. lie Smii . seheraft. Sir -- was much mediately i•otlell a prodenrition , canine upon the ei ,with, to put down witchcl..._ —.. Harry astonished at his pretensions, and as two of a trade never agree, Sir harry ordered Colonel Mackinnon to I..eure this Mahomet, as ho termed him, and to transport him to Rob ben Wand. Colonel Ntackinnou, however, told Sir Itarry that the seizure would cause great irritation among tho Kahl", and would endanger the tranquillity of the colony; that there hail been nothing mischievous or warlike in the conduct of the witch doctor, and that he ought not to be molested. On the other hand, he (Sir W. Molesworth) must state that it was r —,rally believed iu the colony that the witch nista to - rise en mane', and destroy ortiregierminste barbarous savages, promising them unlimited hem. , plunder. At the game time he sent pogt haste to Natil the assistance of 3,000 Zoo Awording to the List • counts, though the Kaffir* hail been defeated in the attacks upon some of our forts, they had commit: great ravages. For this war Sir 11. Smith a Lord Grey were responsible. It had broken oat their own peculiar province of British Kafir:aria, cli woo no part nor portion of the colony of the Cape of t• _ _ wa , generally - ------- doctor had prophesied aztinst the Europeans, nad had at tributed to them the sufferiugi of the Kaffir, and that them had iuced much excitement in Kaftirland. Hope. It had lieen the consequence of the encroaehot , winch they had sanctioned, of their ignorance of the t. Inge of the Kaffir., and of their fmnticr system of pert. t and vexatious interference in the affairs of the iontar tribes. The frontier system had completely failed, and Sir Harry Smith, in despair, declared that " what is ulti motel, to be done with those barbarians remains • prob lem." The last question was, what steps outtht to bs taken to relieve this country from any expense on account of future wars with the KORN ? It was clear that first se must defeat the Kaffirs, and reduce them to subjs etion, and pay for so doing. What should we then do? Adhere to the present system of defending the frontier hi troops at the expense of this country. In IS-P 4 had presumed to warn the house that unaer that 1..t0u there would be a Kaffir war every three or four years with a large bill to pay for it, that there wits only 0121: way to save our purses, and that was to give the inhabitants of the Cape of Good Hope free institutions, complete control over their own expenditure, and the management of their Ma tions with the frontier tribes ; that at the same Mite the colonists should be made to distinctly understand 64 tle? must defend themselves against the Kaffirs and pay for their own defence, and that finally our troops shelled be withdrawn from the frontier, and only an itol" 41 garrnion maintained in the naval station of' Cape Ton certain that on the average of years the if these measures sure not adopted, the house uitOit Pe olde of United Kingdoms would have to pay from 600.0 0 °1. the 700,0001. a year for the Cape of Good Hope, a sum whi" considerably exceeded the exports of British Mohr : and manufactures to that colony. (Hear, hear.) . 1 " Mohr Cape of Good Hope was not worth that price. ( I " e ' hear.) The only portion of it which was worth :invitee; wasa narrow strip of land between rugged mountains a the one side, and a harbourless ocean on the oth er. The