The Express. — London, England, 1853-10-15 00:00:00

Shill 11:i our termer fears as to . the harvest are quieted, ao4 nose t wirl news to autotimer good etops of grain and I t h ; the last I‘ ports from llrooell evtimatitg, that the mosses el cotton to thou' disttiete, if roontss l ig unusual to om V losatitime to damage the geg crops, will b tom, 3) to per veva get tor during this than the last m ien.. lo ea,. goo's there has been a fair amount of business . Is theist however, toe briskness previously ego most mein inquiry being for Grey bladapollame and it - .ar t., • which command enhanced price },— while yarns are ratMr du ll , ear, p up i l fur Turkey red, which i e very se:e:enle. NG tale also :leaned more attention, the imports his.: any entail. tioei 38 by 10, 5 1 to 611 b. Since the date g r,,,,e lam ',port but few sales of these have transpired. quistity in tor hands of the dealers is now ruppesed to be seer small, The value we Met quoted remains unaltered, bed Mire seemed every probability of its being steadily mei ntained in the pfteent. For 6.b. the inquiry remains c:OCC at 3 13.16. The higher qualities like emoinue to maintain their value in •he marker, sit ,g ,w, have not many sales to report ;45 inch goods car ,,,,, LW' 11,till.TY at former rates, the higher qualities oeclined in value. Us' s L. t,. Ciente—The season for theft goods has not t ta:l4 o; mod, and as yet there is but little inquiry for them Gore T Cvirus are without any change worth noticing ee ,e tee ive our last report. „,, ries remain without change. The present ill . 11) to be for a lung and narrow deecription. e ma. het is overstocked, and prices k a s• • ins *hat deelined. l ti e• of the common and lower qvali•i-s se „ request at from re. 31 to re. 4. The bigP.tr gr, not. u. .at more in stock and difficult of sale, verve if a depreciated value. BLE.tUtI I. MADAEULLAIIS of the higher qualit',o are dal; tee common and low( r descriptions are in nueunt. Beimeneti Duette of 21 sards and 12 yards .till meet with a ready sale, the tumor at es. 4, and the latter at ra Beittentrat Jaeoerre of the higher descriptions very gull, .lee lower qualities ate is request. liesaviteu 3leies.—The stock of the ordinary derserip lees having been somewhat reduced, a fair incuiry The higher qualities bees likewise somewhat improved in sales. Larears and Lereee &Alan are without change. The foe qualities are wasted. boon oft *us without change. - OVID Cass W., are wanted and saleable. Tenant lite C oohs are not yet in reason, but there is us improving inquiry for cambric., of which 5,600 pieces, 28 by 25, wore sold at 6 es. 3 minas per piece ; for twill ago asp mule we base no change to notice or sales to report; but 1,440 p.eces Turkey red scarfs 31 by 31 sold at 2 is. 21 am. to 2 es. 3 ans. per piece. Gum VAbiNA bare only been sold to the extent of 175 be mule and 160 of water ; as the expert trade has not yet opened, and the imports have been heavy, we notice sd. clue m 1 to 1 meta on moat counts, except on .No. 40 water, which shows a slight advance. '.41: e wter.—No. 20, 6 to 61 ans.; No. 30, 61 to 71 Y s. , Nu. 40_7 4•16 to 8.16 ans. ; N J. 50 , 9 ass ; No. 60, 101 an. ; Nu. 70, 1 0 to 10 1 ans. • Ni,. 80, II to 111 ans. ; :10,121 to 13 ans.; N 0.100,14 to 15 ans. per lb. Te RA EY RED YARN* are very rateable, No. 30 to GO at so 1 4•16 to 8-16 per lb. ; 11 bales No. 40 and 50 were sold at re. 1 41 146 per lb. Orange Yarns are much over snp lied, and No. 30 to GO are with difficulty sold at 10 Is lit anon per lb. No sales are reported. Morals generally have improved in value. Copper has advanced is. 1 to 2 per cwt. ; sheathing and brazier's being DM worth n. 62 to 621 ; bottoms, re. 63 ; bolt, n. 60 ; rs. Sip to 56; South American slabs, n. 52 ; spelter Is sow .oath n. 121 to 13. Lead : Pig, re. 11; sheet, is 12 to 13,; tin plates, n. 13 to 131 per box. Iron: English bars, rs. 35 to 36; Swedish bars, rs. 49 to 50; square nail red, n. 311 to 3.5; round nail rod, in. 45 per candy; sheet iron, n. 7 to 71; hoop iron, rs. 6 to 7 per cut.; steel, in tabs, n. 12; in faggots, re. 9 to 10 per cwt. Getexsinven is saleable at is. 62 to 53 per maund. tociiiNiaL is held in heavy stock, but a, sale of 20,000 lbs. of it is reported at r. 1 14 anon per lb. CortoN.—Few transactions have taken place since the arrival of the last mail from England, as the dealers have raised their prices to rate, which is not met by purchasers ; but the &cline is the ran of freights have lately given Minn.. to holders of cotton, which cannot now be had under r.. 103 for Dhollerah, and re. 105 to 106 per candy far Bru, cli soil Surat, which will cost free on board, with freight and insurance to Liverpool, 4s. Ofd. and 41. 7-16 d. per lb. The exports since the 30th ult. are 20,74.51 bales. Linseed is now out of stock ; the price asked for seed to anise in November and December is rs. 3 8-16 per cwt. Meela coffee is to be had at re. 9 4-16 to 8-16 per maund of 41 lbs. Exchange on England has fluctuated. On the arrival of the last China mail on the 3rd instant a good amount of redit bills were disposed of at 2s. 1 10-16 d per rupee, but the rate has since peen way, and may now be quoted at 2s. 1 5•14 d. to 2.. lid. per rupee at 6 months' sight, with a downward tendency. Exchange on Calcutta is at is. 991 for Calcutta ; re. 100 at 60 days' sight. On China as drafts an to be had at rs. 245 per dirs. 100 at 60 days' sight. Fezionre.—Eight days ego scarcely any tonnage was to be had to Liverpool at 34. 6a. to 31. 10s. per ton; since which time many vessels have arrived end little cotton offering. Rates have now declined to 21. 16e. to 21. 171.6 d. per ton ; to London there is no vessel on the berth, but a few ships are required to bad on the coast. To China there is little doing, and vessels loading can with diffi culty get n. 12 per candy. CALCUTTA, AVOURS 27. Ez ports of the last week to England have been of a very moderate nature; but there has bean a good deal of bur lier in progress for America; besides several ships are loading for the southern colonies. Upwards of 300 chests of Indigo have been despatched to Great Britain in the course of last week. Sugar con lieu's to be disregarded by shippers is a most wonderful manner. Not so much as 1,000 mds. have been shipped during the week to Great Britain. In this article, however, a good deal of barren has been in progress for Australia, which in some tinware tends to p the accumulation of stocks in the bazaar. Raw silk remains in vigorous de mand, and the exports from Ist to 25th instant amount to 1,840 mounds. In silk piece goods there does not appear to base been much done during this last week. Saltpetre is kept up in value by the lively demand which exists for it in all qualities, and tor nearly all markets. Of rice the ship ments to reat Britain continue moderate, while to the Mauritian they are more eaasive than for soManoU6 put. In Shellac a moderate business has prevailed. The same may be said of Lardy.. Several sales of Safflower are reported, bat the shipments reported are trifling. Hides have been in fair request, but almost exclusively for Great Britain and North America. In Linseed shipments the Americans °mulatto to "Go ahead." Nothing fresh for Great Britain has been done in this mune of the week. Mustard Seed remains quiet. Cantor Oil is very little sought after. Jute amongst British shippers is quite neglected. So far this month the exports of this article to France are nearly equal to those to England, while to North America they an about double. In Catch there is aothing doing. There has been a little doing in Raw Cotton, chiefly for Chiaa. Rum shipments are moderate. The eighth °mum sale of the mum was held en Mos day, the 22d last. Pans has goes rather more than 18 r.. per nest higher than before, while Boum is a few Mess per chest lower. The Peninsular and Oriental Oinpany's steamer PAL leaves oaths 28th, and she will pliably get a full largo of the drug. The Laerick, and is American clipper the Mermaid, are ben advertised te Lan la • few days. The Pant Shan arrived of tows on the evening of the 25th last The import market Ins not Ineapillninfi Meet/ end aim eossequently are on a eon Neiman U en small nee dm Os season of the year. Trimmenme segoind la grey inn p are a mere trifle. Mite ablidep in in seer de nied, chiefly low kink Co.'s n. 460 te 4ii.they noispollams and Junimme, both grey and white, ban end play freely at heirs Mei. Prints of all sorts have been d, mid the soperted sales an eimaiderable. Tar frahlsed s t rar havesablles fair extent. book marlins ban at late low prim. weolleas rather a large banns Undies. No sales of heavy pey, such as Side end detenp, have been reported. Drillings of dl sees remain egglosted. Mule twist is repined sold to the extent of about 1,200 bliss, a good many of which are 60e., which have sold at 3 seam 6 piss. This No. is likely to go a:little higher 3 61 has been offered for two or t hree punts, but holders mined. Friers of other Noe. nem a little stiffer than they way. Coloured yarns bays found purchasers to a fair latent. to metals copper and iron chiefly have found purchasers. Ode or two parcels of load and block tin ate also reported sold. Splint is still quite void of demand. There is no change to the mosey market. Danko( Ben pl, :ge n a Bask, and other shans remain of previous value. meat securities are without essential change. Quo- With' of goveremeat neuritis' are:—Transfer Five per Costa., is. 6 12 to re. 7 prim. New Fives, n. 3to ea 3 peens.; old Sion ditto, 4to 6 prem. ; Co.'s es. Four per Cwt., Ito 2 dig. The share market stands as follows : —Bank of Bengal Shares, Co.'s rs. 6,125 to rs. 6,050 oath; Agra sea C. 8. Bank, Co.'s rs. 660 t o n. 1385 each ; North Western Bank, Co.'s rs. 300 to is. 305 each; India General Steam, Co.'s is. 559 to is. 600 each ; Bengal Coal Complain, several trammetiens of late at Co.'s n. 1,000 each ; :Laded Wtshbowmt, Co.'s re. 1 245 to n. 250 eath ; Calcutta Steam Tag Amend= actual seas, Co.'s n. 600 to re. 660 each. Msceiteon.—Preseet rates ase as follows:—First clam credits, 2a. I. to 2s. Id. per rupee; ditto documents, 21. Id. to 21. led. per rupee; to Chins, rs. 235 per dln. 100. Fazzuftra.—Arrivals of the fortnight have again been light. Quoted rates ate as follows:—To London; sugar, 3/. Us.; saltpetre, 31. 15•.; rice, 41. ; jute, 31. ; hides, 41.; oilseeds, 41.5 e. to 4/. 10a. shellac, 31. 10s. ; ;Le dye, 41. To Mauritius Company's rupees, 24 to 2 6 per beg, payable ttcre at 50 cents. Currox.—Shiments N Great! Britain and China are srey light, being from Ist to 26th Augut as follows: To China, 1,823 :muds ; Great Britain, 2,680 muds. OPlClL—Naperts from Ist to 2.5 th August, 1853 :—To Chloe, 1,611 chesty; Bineapore and Penang, 266 chests; other placer, 5. Total, 1,779. TnE EARL or tamust is danproasly ill in England. His nephew and hair apparent, Valontin• brown, Ruh M.P., is glee to attend hies.—Limerick CAronsele. OXFORD, OCT. 13.—CLERKS OF TIM MARXET'.— The Rev. Philip Bliss, D.C.L., principal of flt. Harp Hall, sad Mr. Edward Wetherell Bowden, M.A., registrar of the University, and late fellow of New College, hats been naypolated Werke of tas market for the year 'amiss. Vbe Court. - - BALSIORAL. 01.7 T 13. ller Majesty and Prince All;ertwaiceilytTsicriiay teeming in the neighbourhood of Ba:m-,ral, end in tLe Internam her M.'esty drove in the open carriage. The Prince of WArs and hie et Alfred dtnve ytaterday to Inverc.iuld, and passed the afternoon with the young Mr latqatarsons. WINDSOR, Orr. 14. The Queen and Pricer., with the Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, the Prince Alfred, and the Princesses Alive and Helena, atter.ded by the Duke of Newcastle, the VISCOUIIteNi Canning, c o w ee l t h e Hon. C. B. Phi pi n , Col. the Hon. A. Om& n. Sir James Clark, the lion. Mary Bolted, and Mr. o.ibbs, left Etliabargh at five •• litotes he fote 8 o'clock 'hi'. morning, and arrived at the Castle at 8 o'clock thin even'a t g. The Princes Arthur and Leaptd and the Princess Louisa arrived at the Castle from Osborne at hell-past 12 tu"!*/, attended by Ledy Caroline Barrington and Lieut.-Cole act the lion. R. Boyle. The riailelit Hon. Sir Henry Belwer ha 1 nn interview wi'h lb w tart of Aberdeen yesterday at his official residence in Ik e driking-bur et. Slr William Molesworth left town on Thursday for his sea', Pencarrow, near Bndmin. Mr. Chadwick had an interview yesterday with the Lord Is.d'ilwate at his office in New-street, Spring gardens. bespatchcs were sent yesterday from the Colonial.effice it" the Governors of the Cape of Hoed Hope and Natal. Despatches were ale) sent to the Hovernors cf the North American Provinces. . . .. . . De.p.itchcs were Teemed yesterday from the Governon of the West Lodi% Woe& EDINBURGH, FRIDAY Moiouxo. Her Majesty and the royal family left Holyrood Palace this morning at a quarter before 8. con.iderable number of strangerabeing at present in lidinburgh, 10 con sequence of the meetings tithe Pesco Conference, a large concoure witnessed her progress through Cie city, notwith standing the day was damp and hazy. The royal train left the Caledonian Railway station shortly atter 8 o'clock. THE QUEEN IX PRESTON. FRESTON, FRIDAY. In the early part of the week an iutimatiou was received by the railway authorities here, to the effect that the Queen was so well pleased with her reception in Pres ton last year, that she purposed again taking luncheon in this town, on her return from Balmoral. This being com municated to the Mayor (Mr. Edw. Cattenell), his woeship called the council together, and a committee was ap pointed to make arrangements for paying due honour to royalty. The committee came to the conclusion that it would be proper to present to her Majesty an addrese on this occasion of her second visit to Preston, if it should be her Majesty's pleasure to receive one. Under these circumstances the Mayor was deputed to take the necessary steps for the purpose of ascertaining if it Mould be agree, ble to her Majesty that an address should be pre sented by the corporation of this borough. In reply to a letter from the Mayor, tee Duke of Newcastle thus wrote from Balmoral : " I have received the Queen's commands to inform you that her Majesty will receive the address as proposed by the corporation of Preston." The council again auembled this morning, when an ad deers was adopted expressive of the delight of the inhabi tents at the honour conferred by her Majesty on their town. _ _ . The time announced for her Majesty's arrival was half past one. As the royal train appr3sebed the church bells rang out merry peals, cann6n boomed in the die:mice, and hearty hurrahs burst from the assembled multitude. When her Majesty alighted from the royal: carriage, the Mayor of Preston was introduced, and had the honour of presenting the address noticed above, which her Majesty gracefully acknowledged. The royal party then retired to partake of refreshment. After a britf interval her Ma jesty re-appeared, and all being in readiness for departure the royal train sped en towards the south amid reiterated PEACE CONFERENCE IN EDINBURGH. MR. COBDEN AND SIR C. NAPIER. (Abridged from the ScottisA Press of Thunday, Oct. 13.) A public meeting was held in the Muaic Hall in the evening, in connexion with the sittings of the Peace Conference. The large hall was crowded to slice's, and the platform was occupied by the leading members of the Conference, and Sir Charles Napier was seated immediately on the It ft of the LORD PROVOST, who presided. The CHAIRDIAN explained the course which it was pro posed should be adopted, which was to the effect that the resolutions which had been unanimously passed at the Peace Conference would be commented upon by the speaker,, and that at the end the resolutions would be pot to the meeting to say whether they approve or did eat ap prove, and that if any nne had anything to state against these resolutions he would be heard. Mr. Rtes ARDS (the Secretary) then read the resolution which had been passed at the Conference. Mr' Ei.tHti Btraitm, who on rising was greeted with loud cheers, moved the series of resolutions which has al ready appeared in'our columns, in an eloquent address, which was repeatedly applauded throughout its deliver,. and pointed out some of the most glaring &nomadic., in volved " in that strange modern system of policy called an armed peace." The Rey. Mr. Bun sir, of London, supported the reso lutions. Mr. COBOWN, M.P., said, though a good deal has been said respecting the character and purposes of this meeting, I will mention an incident connected with it which will bring home peculiarly to your minds the extraordinary metamorphosis that bar taken place in public opinion in this country of late. When in the smith of January last we held • similar Peace Conference in Manchester, we were, as you know, in the midst of a paroxysm in our ap prehension of a French invasion. At that moment the Conference entered into • subscription at Manchester with the view of endeavouring to raise 10,0001., of which, I be lieve, nearly one-half was paid down on the spot for the purpose of instantly setting on foot an agitation throughout the country, to counteract that spirit of apprehension and hostility which was manifested towards France. (Cheers.) And that was, I believe, my own sugdestion--at all events it arose is a conversation of three or four of us at the Conference at Manchester ' where we proposed to raise such a fund, when we found the extraordinary circumstances in which the country was placed, and the maalfeet danger of a collision between this country and France. I thought that it was better that instead of having only ewe Conference we should have two or three throughout the country. The city of Edinburgh was suggested aeons place, end Leeds as another, end we separated from that Conference with the impres sion that before the coming Christmas we should have held a conference at Edinbargh and at Leeds for the purpose of counteracting the feeling of hostility sad alarm entertained towards France. (Hear, bear.) Well, now, under what different circumstances are we Isere met, with our fleet act iag together with the French Met, and the prospect of Eng lish and French armies acting under a French general; and we find the complete change which you now witness. But I am very glad that under thisjuWfialale misapprishensioa we have assembled here on this occasion. I have been delighted during those two days to witness in the assembled friends of the movement, who have met from all parts of the • om, such an evi dence of growing strength on the part of the principles we ' are here to advocate 7 (cheen)—end such proves to me' ' that we are gathering round this cause precisely that I strength and character and weight in this country which we found towards the cleft of another great agitation I which ended in the triumph of the arose of Free-trade. (Cheers.) For I see here the self-same faces with which I fought that battle in many a hard day. (Hear.) We have the same men. The cause of pace is the legacy left by Free.trade, and the men who won the first will win the second cause. (Cheers.) And now having finished the labours of the conference and come before the citizens of Edinburgh with the resolutions which have been come to by this inciting of delegates, if anybody asks ue, " What are your priamples ? " we say don't pick out a stray remark by this orator or the other orator; don't cavil at say little discrepancies tkat you may find in the speeches of the same individual. We may look to these resolutious as they are unanimously 'leased ; they embody the principles and the objects of this conference. (" Hear," sad cheers.) We ad vocate arbitration in lieu of fighting among all the nations in the world. (Cries of " No, no," from • person la the body of the ball, followed by cries of "Put him out," sad " Chair.") Don't endeavour to put anybody out ; leave him here sad we will make • sensible man of him before we are done. (Load cheers and laughter.) We advocate the cause of arbitration in lieu of fighting, in the agreement of disputes, and surely anybody above the rank of savages would say that's a desirable end to accomplish. (Cheers.) There may be many who will doubt its practicability. But it is with those people that we wish to argue this question. We say, I submit your disputes to arbitration, and if you cannot settle your disputes in that way, if you should afterwards resort to the sword, still yin will be as worse off as you are by resortiog to the sword without arbitration. You may tell me that there is no court of appeal to com mand end enforce the fulfilment of the decree of the arbi trator. It is perfectly true. But, on the other hand, if oar policy be carried out, I believe countries like France and England will enter into a solemn treaty that any question which may arise, which cannot be set tled by mutual discussion and negotiation, should be referred to an arbitrator mutually chosen ; this arbitrator shall have the power finally te decide the question at issue—that being understood, that being ins fact the solemn treaty binding the two countries; and if by any chance there should be a quarrel arise, and either of these countries refuse to submit the question of dispute to the decision of the arbitrator, then I say if it comes in the end to war, that country enters the conflict breaded with infamy in the eyes of the civilised world—(cliessis)— inasmuch as she has violated the solemn treaty she had entered iota before, and she is the disturber of the civi lised world ; and she would bring the civilised world down upon her. (Loud cheers.) Well, no w, _ we say we advocate a mutual redaction of armaments. We don't say disband your army, sink your fleet, and place yourself prostrate be fore any enemy that may come to attack you. But what we say is that if France and England have Ault tea ships of the line on commission watching each other from oppo site parts of the coast, then it is plain their relatiro strength towards each other would be precisely the same if tney would tech reduce their number from ten to ave. (Loud THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 15, 1853. and continued cheers.) it ie • simple question of &rah 'attic ; and some day or other when a future generation ; wiser then we look back on our labour, and the difficult, we had in convincing the stetesmen cf our day that three had the acme reference to three that six lice to six, will they net he astoni,h,l at the stolidity of this generation, and it they bad any of tlieir grievances to redress or reforms to effect, surely I think they may take courage in the midst of difficulty wl:en they find how much difficulty we had to accomplish so telt ial an object as that. (Cneers.) Now, I ant glad, on this account, that we have • Reliant gentleman with us—if he will allow me I will call him my gallant friend—for we have walked pretty gene rally, though not always, into the same lobby in the House of Commons together. We have a gallant officer here who, if you are to have • fight instead of arbitration, will do your business as well as anybody you can get. (Load cheers.) This gallant admiral has come from Loudon war-a from the City of London Tavern—(loud cheers) —bringing with him • spirit impatient for more decisive proceedings on this troubled Einem ques'ion. (Cheer ing.) The gallant gentleman has declared his disapproval of the course which we have taken. And I have no doubt that he has come here to night to state the grounds upon which that disapprobation is founded. (Cheers.) I should only be anticipating the duty which your right hunourable chairman can perform as well as any man in England in offering him, in your name, the Wilt cour teous reception and the mos: patient attention—(cliet rs)— in all that he may have to address to this meeting. And now, whilst explaining to the public, it is a manifest re flection that we arc at the tame time explaining to a gal. lent and worthy opponent like bim what are our real prin ciples and objects. Admiral Sir Cu.eaLus Narton—How do you know I am your opponent? Mr. COM/EN—My reliant friend mays, " How do you know that I am your opponent ?" I have no doubt that before we are done with hint we will make an ally of my gallant friend. (Loud cheers.) That will be our business to-night. lie is worth converting, I assure you. (Laughter and corers.) Now, let him first of all understand that what he has heard people say, or what be may have read in some of the public prints, in the Reform Club in London, shout the objects of this Peace Confer ence, are pure fiction.. (Hear, hear.) Now, we will tell him what we really want. We say we don't think this mode of continually increasing our ships of war, Iwo mute illy menacing each other, conduces to the preserva tion of peace between nations, sod particularly between France and England. In the first place we say that it is a very expensive mode, and if our policy, the policy which we recommend, can be adopted, there will be at once a great saving to the taxpayers of this country, so that those who pay the taxes, if not those who receive them, will be very much obliged to us. Now, I say it is not only an expensive mode, but it seems to me to be an expense without a limit, because every improvement that's made in the science of ship building; every discovery that can be made by the chemist in the art of propelling missiles against each otber by ships of war or by armies; every step we make in the path of science is constant: y made the argument for increasing the expensive ness of our warlike establishments; because every tresh dis covery you make and apply to the ertof war, the country on the other side of the Channel must instantly follow your ex ample, and so the two countries go on rivalling each other in these invt !aims for warlike purposes, and in the im provements in that lovely art of human destruction. (Cheers.) Why this increase of expenditure—this rivalry in the game of beggar my neighbour" must constantly go on so long as human reason is progressive in its nature and purpose. I will give you an illustration which any man will understand in a moment. Formerly we were content with,sailing vessels for the purposes of war. Then came the disc - .very of Fulton—the application of the steam engine to the propulsion of ships, and gradually but very slowly steam-ships came to be =opted by the owners of mercantile shipping. But it was lung after it became a common thing to apply the steam-engine to the propulsion of ships before government thought of establishing a steam war marine. But gradually England and then France adopted the system of building steam vessels of war. First of all paddle ships were built. We made great blunders in the construction of our paddle ships, but after our manifold blunders, and enormous ex penditure and hideous waste of money, as our gallant visitor here knows right well, we thought • perfect system of paddle steam vessels had been established. Very well, I heard the Secretary for the Navy myself congratulate the country that all that expenditure was at an end, that this great outlay of capital for steam vessels was concluded, and that now all he had to do was done, beyond what was re quired to maintain this establishment in an effective °audi tion. Weil, but shortly afterwards an ingenious men, looking at a fish as it glided through the water, be thought him that he could place the movement of the fish's tail to the stern of the ship, and then came the invention of the screw propeller. Well, after the screw propeller had been found to convey ships across the Atlantic, and, in fact, round the world, then came the dis cussion with the Admiralty whether it should be applied to the purposes of war. At first, as is always the case,there was a great resistance on the part of the naval authorities, the official men, to the new invention. I heard naval men say, in a committee of the House of Commons on which I sat, that if a shot went through the fan of the screw tha ship would become unmanageable ; but, as is always the case in these matters, private enterprise took the invention up, set at nought and laughed to scorn and confusion the dogmas of official men. (Cheers.) The screw went into mercantile ships, and when it was found available there, now they had come to the conclusion that all our line-of-battle ships must have screw propellers in them, so that the paddle-wheel which we formerly considered the best contrivance for marine warfare has bees at once superseded by the screw propeller ; in order to apply it we must have new line of-battle ships. And now, after a few short years, our former line-of-battle ships lie great unwieldy lifeless hulks on the ocean, unless out government has power to pur chase and construct new engines. But now have you got to the end of it ? I see by the papers great laudation of these new screw vessels. For instance, there is the Dula of Wellington bottle-ship. I have read the re ports of gentlemen's speeches at one very bellicose meeting at Sheffield, and more particularly the speech of my bellicose irked the hon. member for Sheffield, who talked of the Megthethrements, and said that the Duke of Wellington was the greatest and the beet peace society. And I have mese statements made that this Duke of Wellington is the set eseestoas war vessel in our whole fleet, and as such the best security for perpetual peace—(cheers)—that the Dohs of Wellington and the Agamemnon with their great seerwprepallers are the greatest guarantees we could have of permanent peace. (" Hear, hear," from Sir Charles Napier.) My gallant friend here says "hear, hear," but I have not done yet. (Cheers.) Now the Duke of Wellies ton is • ship about 360 feet in length, and I believe mea sures about 60 feet odds from the deck to the bottom of the hold. It is an enormous structure. Well, but had they stood still with their screw vessels of 2,000 or 3,000 tees it would not have been so bad. I see there is a vessel mans from America which is from 6,000 to T,OOO toes burthen. But that is not all. In the great fire recently in the yard of Mr. Scott Bussed there was destroyed the model of a veesel,the whole Cl:4lre of which I had from himself two months 11 as mosey was subscribed, the dimensions were all settled ; and that vessel, what do you think were its dimen sions ? 12,000 tons, with an engine 2,000 horses power to drive the paddle-wheels and the screw propeller, for it hap pened that an ingenious mechaais had taken another look at the fish. He had seen that besides the tail it had fins— (a laugh)—and he says we must have • vessel that is not only a paddle but • screw also, and here is the plan for the vessel: she was to be 12,000 toes, upwards of 600 feet in l , with paddle wheels at the sides, and a screw pro pealat the stern, and bevies_ three engines with a wilted here-power of 2,000. Now, I have seem it stated most triumphantly in our papers, sad espied into the French journals, that this Duke of Wellington, a Me more than imam the eke of the vessel of whisk I have spokes, which, as I hen tail pee, was laid down and will be contrasted, — nth. thlerealmel Wellington had sash power with its screw fa senesseenest its bulk, it could rue down into halves a feigns by the mere propelsion of its seems, and without feel leg wank la thieslihiss. Well, if this steamer is carried est sued built of materials equal to her tonnage, why that vessel with its screw sad paddle-wheels, with an 4111.11101111 werlit :m ad site and length, may run down the Duke of W just as she was able to rue down the frigate. (Lend ) Well, the, what suppose the French go regnant, or any other government, th emes to come and buy teem Mr. Sent Russell, or order a vessel of them di -1111113101111, sad our saligat visitor tells es then that the Duke of Wellington is the best gametes for universal and per petual poste ? (Great cheering.) . Will the 3,600 tees be a match fir the 12,000? No. And do you suppose the* human balding sad insanity will dap there. I have heard it earmised that they won't stop at 12,000 tone ; that the principle of extension and progress found most pen kat in our manufactories and other gnat works will be applied to ships, and there is no earthly reason to hinder them constructing vessels of 20,000 tons en the principles applied to the construction of the peat Mead tubular bridge, so that we may soon see great ferry boats carrying th e popu lation of a whole town acmes the Atlantic and leaving them in Milford Haven, or landing their passengen ea the first bold headland of the American coast, to led their destinations by railway as beet they may. Well , sew what—referring ferring this principle of maintaining • peens by these large standing artaaments-1 ar5e ... Z . 4; ..r. 1;Z that there is no present limit to the expenses you will be put to if you go on in that way; that they are always aim ing at something larger In structure, and every new project of this kind, every new invention, is open to both nations, end they will always be rivalling each other in the adop tion of these means of defence. Will the gallant visitor ad dress himself to that principle ? (Cheers.) Let him mind we deal with principles. Though he may tell us of our number of guns, I ask him to deal with the principle I have laid down, which will be attended with such an aug mentation of our taxes, and in time of peace, when we have profeseions of friendship with other nations, and yet are most constantly rivalling each other in savage de monstrations of perpetual - hostility. (Cheers.) Weil, now, we lay down the principle of non-interventiess— (cheers)—not to interfere with the domestic affairs of any gauntry. There we enlist every part of every other gentry to our favour. If we had only the principle of son-inter amnion adopted, the people of other countries would be left to manage their own affairs. We say we must have a reform alba esionial system. I think the most practical motion Net sin be brought in next year to parliament 1141111 g ha a motion pledging the House of Commons to andeigh ear military expenditure in the colonies. They del netribute one shilling to the expenses of this go wnsman. We have no exclusive trade with them. They may buy where they please ; we have given them an the waste land ; we have no control of that land now. They are freer than we are, and the economical condi tion of the population of our colonies is very favourable com pared with that of the great mass of the people of this country, who can only ears 2a. or ls. 04. a day, while the pimple in the ecionies can obtain 4s. or be. • day as wages. Is th , re anything like sense, et reason, or justice in burdening this country with the eni.rmous expenditure which we incur in keeping up regiments in our c lonies when we have no good of ject I to serve by them, and when we have given up every thing to them soh ch our ancestors thought it worth cAile to contend for by force of arms ? (Hear, hear.) Well, now we have proposed in another resolution that it is tie linable we should encourage by every possible means the intercourse of nations, and that by national communication ' with each other they are more likely to remain at peace— (cheers)—that in the assimilation of coinage, which is agitating the minds of scientific men both here and on the continent, and the adoption, if possible, of a' more uniform sj stem of mercantile law, we will be assisted in our commer ei.l intercourse, which will lead to the principles cultivated by the friends of peace. Who, then, will say that it is not desirable that these resolutions should be practically carried out ? Well, then, these are general principles. There is the ocean peony postage, too. I consider it pecu liarly fitted to increase the means of intercommunication, and I am glad that my friend the Lord Provost has men tioned that subject to me, because it gives me the oppor tunity of eapressing to this meeting—aid I ern sure 1 only express the feelings of this meeting when I say how I deeply indebted we feel to Mr. Elibu Bunitt for the exer tions he has made in the cause. (Loud cheers.) Ile may be assured that he has made that ocean peony postage a practical question in this country. It was spoken of at the conclusion of the last session in terms of respect and appro. bation )rum all sides of the house—(greatchecring)—and in the next session of Parliament we eO4l have a committee on it, and I feel no more doubt that this ocean penny post age will be carried into law than I have a doubt of the el istence of that admirable scheme fur which we are indebted to Mr. Rowland Hill. (Cheers.) But now, as I don't in tend to keep a great meeting like this so uncomfortably ,ituated, knowing too, that there are other friends to ad dress you, while I have gone into our general principles, I forget that we are at this moment expected to address our,elves in some degree to the special circumstance now before this country, and I need not for a moment shrink from the question in the presence of our gallant visitor, who has come specially here to controvert our Tit MS on that particular question of the day—(loud cheers) — I allude of course to the dispute existing between the Em peror of Russia and the government of Turkey. (Loud cheers.) [The hon. gentleman here recapitulated what he had observed on the previous day as to the condition of the Christian population of European Turkey.] He then con tinued—l don't feel very much concerned about this attack upon Turkey, unless I can see some other way of accom plishing the amelioration of the Christians of turkey than that proposed by the Emperor of Russia (Hear.) Now, I think this is the very time to speak of these things, because I we are contemplating to go to war, and 1 believe 99 out of every 100 of the people in the country do not know what we are going to war about. (Cheers, and slight hisses.) I totally differ from our gallant visitor here in the sentiments he es pressed when he attended the meeting at the London Tavern. He 'laid there, towards the eunclasion of his speech, after he had been advocating our can intervention by force of arms to coerce Russia in this matter, he said, " I hope the Turkish government will be induced to feltil the promises it mule towards the Christians which are not fulfilled." And he wound up by saying, " I could say a good deal more about that, but it might appear to be prejudicing you against Turkey." (A laugh.) But now we are for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Our gallmt visitor knows the breach of promises on the past of the Turkish government. (Hear, hear.) He knows that the promises made upon former occasions have been nothing more than waste paper. He knows that the pasha and cadis are no more reached by an edict than the subjects of the Empire of China would be reached by a British act of parliament. Oh, but he says, " I won't say anything about that now. Let us go and give Rune a geoid thrashing, because Russia wants to set this matter right which ought to have been set right, which was promised to be set right, but don't say anything about it just now." (Laughter.) But this is the very time to speak about it. It forms a material part of the question, and I warn the people of this country before they go to war to inquire iato all these particulars, though our was, visitor does not like to tell them just now. Now is the time of all others. I will now say a few wade upon the interest England has in the matter. I say we don't come into the Court of National Judicature with clean bands. And for us to sail public meetings and peas such resolu tions as were passed at Leicester end elsewhere, with our hands reeking with the blood of the Burmese at this mo moat—to talk of our being so indignant that we cannot remain in abeyance while Russia is doing someting sot quite so illogical as Lord Dalhous.e and Commodore Lam bert are doing, something second only in enormity to what was practised in the Court of Ava,—to pretend that we caa call God's vengeance upon the,nations of the world for that, is presumption and hypocrisy. And, therefore, whilst admitting the acts to be acts of wrong and high-handed in justice, as between the governments of Russia and Tur key, whilst reprobating the conduct as illogical, base, mess, and as what may be described is one of the shortest epithets of the English language, but which I will express by —, while we reprobate and de spise it, I don't think we are the parties called upon to ex ercise physical forte—to exercise vengeance upon the authors of these wrongs. I come now to the only question with us, is it our interest to go to war with Russia in consequence of the encroachments and acts of injustice which Russia is performing towards Turkey ? What are the arguments, upon which we are to go to war for oar own interest I don't set up the argument of interest. The argument of interest is met up by our opponents, and It is urged that if Russia is allowed to conquer Turkey our possessions will be in danger from his aggressive movements. What does that amount to ? It amounts to this, that because I assume that Russia is going to beat Turkey, and add to his territory, and acquire enormous power by means of taking that territory, that then he is coming to attack you. They assume all that to be true and they will ask you to go to war in order to avoid what is to happen. But I don't admit all these dogmatical pre mises.' lln the first place, I don't admit that the accession of territory necessarily leads to the increase of the power of a state. I have visited Turkey and Russia sufficiently to enable me to understand what I read about these countries; and from what I know of Russia, I believe she would he more powerful from this moment if she adopted a pacifies course, deepened her rivers, widened their channels, in creased the fertility of her soil, and attended generally to the development of her internal resources. She would in crease in power more by that than by pursuing • warlike coarse. The more you extend your surface, the more you weaken the centre. If Ramla, instead of two capitals, Moscow and St. Petenburgh, takes Constantinople as a third, I believe that insteed of tending to increase her power, in twenty years it would have an opposite effect. I know this is not the popular opinion, because there is a universal desire in the mind of man to acquire more territory. The farmer, who has got 600 acres of land, and has not sufficient capital to work it well, will endeavour to thereon hie number of acres; and his neighbours will think him more profitably engaged with his large number of acres, Insuf fi ciently tilled though they be. But that opinion is not sound and philo sophical, and does not work to the advantage of indi viduals. And the same principle applies to Mateo. Bat in the next place, I don't take the encroachments of Russia stun Turkey as a sign, annals as a proof, that Russia wants to encroach upon u. Ruda, it is true, is evidently encroaching upon her neighbours in the East because her neighbours are a decaying, disorderly, and anarchical people. Nations don't perish from without: they always perish ps a suicide from within. Wherever you find a nation edi from the map of the world you will find that has hese mom% and invariably caused, by a long period of miagmenment, amounting sometimes to cen turies, whisk Rode ye. to vender as you read, not that that country was extinguished when it was, but that it was al lowed to remain so long before ft became annexed to another more prosperous and orderly state. I say, the ease 1 of Turkey is precisely that case. Yon have Russia, a lasi barbarous country, better organised, sad with all its faults more progressive and industrious than Turkey ; and you find Russia encroaching upon Turkey. Well, I therefore deny that you have proof that the encroachments of Runge are necessarily to load to this vast Mariam of power that is to overshadow the world. I say, that taking the course that Russia has pursued for the last thirty sad comparing that with the progress of the ig you will find that where Russia has advaja e rt the United States of America have least to thirty. That is, at the Ism& Ilm sew partitive progress of the t w o countries. Meneatese Ibs power England has gained during the last *Mr yews against Rum* we have increased four or live them mars in real power and wealth than the &laden empire. Now, I don't say this as an argument that we should encourage Russia to attack Turkey. But when you say I should go to war to prevent danger to this country, I want strong proof of danger before I go to war to avert what is, after all, but a calamity in imagination. But lam told that we mot go to war with Russia, because Russia is an anthcommercial country, and Turkey favours commerce. lam not disposed to admit the premise,. I deny that Russia has ever been an anti-commercial country. No government in the world has shown more carelessness to extend commerce and manufac tures wherever they have extended their empire than the Runtime. That is our complaint against them, that when they took her territory they shut us out with their tariffs. Bat shutting out by tariffs does not make people an anti commercial people. We formerly put on a restrictive tariff, but that protection, exit was called, did not make us an anti commercial people, out was intended to benefit this country by making this country's commerce more profitable. Runs has become a restrietiv• country, but there is no restriction imposed by her half so indefensible u that which we put upon her corn up to within the last ten year.. And I would here point to this fact, that all the commerce you have, and the world has, with the Black Sea, has been made by the Russian encroachments on the borders of that sea ; for until the Russian goveroment erected Odessa, there 'was no communication by the Black Bea. Where do you get your tern from now ? Odessa; yet Odessa was the result of the encroachments of_Rumia. They tell me_ that you are going to lose the trade with Walhabia and Moliaiia, because the Reruns are going to make further encroachments upon that country. I am told by the best authorities connected with that trade, that all the commerce growing up in these countries is owing to the more settled government consequent upon the encroachments of RUMIII. Don't take my opinion. Turn to M'Culloch's Dictionary, to the head of Odessa, and read his description of Chess Russians about which we are now discussing. M'Culloch, writing in a com mercial spirit, says that whatever objections there may be in a political sense to the encroachments of Russia upon the Black Sea, by giving greater order to its government and greater security to its industry, it has undoubtedly tended to improve the commercial relations of these regions. In the face of these facts, ant I to go to war to prevent the pos sibility of uric losing some of our trade to Constantinople (Rear, sad cheers.) Dan% assume that I want la argue that we should encourage Russia in her aggressions. I want merely to show that the arguments with which they want to urge us on to war are such as the people of this country in their own interest aught not to accept. I aril told the ta , iff of Turkey is very favourable. It is quite true that the Turks have so far di spited foreign commerce, and had so little faith in their power of collecting duties at the outports that they have never attempted to collect duties upon the expors from foreign countries. But to say that Turkey has done this in the inter. at of commerce, because they wish to encourage trade in exports and imports is to misunderstand the character of that country. Go into the interior of the Turkish Empire and inquire what security there is for the cultivator of that country? Wherever a Pasha may levy his exactions, the rudest mode of plundering the peanut is resorted to—that of handing in the produce as he grows it. Let me see what security there is for the internal communi cations of the country. Ask how a camel load comes from the interior to Smyrna, and see what securi y there is ? Why, that magnificent country, that contained in ancient times nearly the civilisation of the world, is given up to such a state of brigandage that even the inerchaets of Smyrna dare not go seven miles from Smyrna to their country-houses, for they would be carried ofi by bands of brigands for the sake of obtaining a large ransom fur their recovery. It is absurd to tack of such a country as that being favourable to commerce. When I hear of returns being made to the House of Commons of the comparison of our experts to Turkey and Russia, I say give us the imports as well as the experts. As a free-trader, I value imports as well as exports. Let us see the amount of the tallow, the hemp, and the corn we get from that coun try, and how we pay fur it. It is true Itunia, copying our example, puts on Ingo duties upon our manufactures, but we take raw cotton to Petersburgh, and exchange it for tallow, hemp, and corn, which is a profitable trade. You have a larger proportion of tonnage carrying on trade with Russia than with any other country. But when people talk about the trade with Turkey, I beg to remind them of one fact, that they are arguing in our favour ; because the trade is carried on, not by the Turks, but by Christians. Who ever heard of a Turkish vessel coming from Turkey, manned with Tulle, bringing over freight here for the purposes of commerce ? You have silty Greek merchants in Manches ter who carry on all the trade with Constantinople in British manufactured goods. It is the Greeks and Chris tians, who have the wealth and enterprise of that country, that I wish to be considered in this controversy. (Hear.) The very fact that commerce is in toe hands of Chris tians, is a proof that you cannot long secure that supre macy of Turks over Christians which it is the object of our diplomatists to accomplish, but which they never will offaet Now, my gallant neighbour here, I see, used a rather peculiar phrase that tell trim me some years ago at a meeting, with regard to "crumpling up the Husain,. Empire." Now the phrase I used was at El meeting on the subject of the Hungarian invasion in 1849. I 'Vended a meeting in the City of London Tavern, to protest against the invasion of Hungary by Russia. Russia was allowed then to march her armies across Wallachia and Mol davia to strike a death blow against Hungary, and no protest was ever raised against this by our government. (Hear.) And it is my deliberate conviction, from a patient study of our blue books, and it is the conviction of those illustrious men en gaged in that Hungarian struggle, that if Lord Palmerston bad made a simple verbal pautest in energetic terms, then Russia would never have invaded Hungary by passing through Wallachia and Moldavia. It: was well known that the ministers of the Cigar of Russia almost went' down upon their knees to entreat him not to embark in that struggle between Austria and Hungary. Our protest would have been backed by the ministers of the Czar, if it had been made, and I believe would have p ed that most atrocious outrage upon the rights and liberties of a constitutional country. I said, on that oc easion, when I attended a public meeting in the City of London Tavern, in the midst of all that excitement and phreney in favour of Hungarian nationality, I said, I would resist any attempt to send any force to fight the battles of Hungary on the banks of the Danube. I did not disguise my views on the subject any more than Ido now. While condemning the conduct of Russia to , wards Turkey, I will not sanction the sending of any sol diers to fight in favour of Turkey. 1 have never sanctioned intervention by force of arms in foreign disputes, and , when I send any men to fight my battles, I will take part , in them myself. (A laugh.) I said also that if Russia did attack us, such were the enormous resources of this country —its resources of wealth and scientific application—that we could crumple up her empire by blockading her ports and sealing them hermetically, so that she could have no commu ; nieation whatever wi-h the civilised world. That is a truth, and may be accomplished. But I say again that Russia does not mean to come to attack us, and it will be time enough to talk of going to war with Russia, when Russia intimates one design inimical to our interests. Mr. Cobden next alluded to the reason why he rated at so low a value the power of the Russian empire beyond her own dominions, which was her want of wealth. He recapitulated the occa , sions on which Russia had to contract foreign loans with Amsterdam and London, and affirmed his conviction that whatever was the issue of this dispute Russia could not go , 1 on without another loan. He knew no cause for going to war, hut if it was thought necessary to interfere, he sug gested that instead of resorting to physical force, they should fist try the effect of a system of outlawry, such eel making it penal to contract for a Russian loan, prohibiting the sale of Russian stock, which he considered would strike as severe a blow at the power, ambition, and pretensions of that country, as if they sent a fleet to Besika Bay. As an illustration of the absurdity of keeping up military and r naval armaments to convince other nations of our ability r to resist attacks, Mr. Cobden directed attention to the United States, where they had only one line-ef-battle t ship in commission, and whose army consisted of only 10,000 or 12,000 men, yet their enterprise, industry, immense re sources, and lightness of taxation rendered them in the r eyes of other nations a power which they would beware of coming into collision with. He ridiculed the conduct of , the boy•emperor of Austria in engaging his troops in so ; many fields of mimic battle, remarking that if that plain , man in black clothes in a room in Washington were to send r a frigate to Trieste with a hostile message, that boy-empe ror's heart would at once be in his jack-boots at the very thought. He concluded a long and eloquent address by commending the claims of tke peace party on the support of the country. The Loan PROVOST here intimated that it was originally arranged that Mr. Bright should now address the meeting, but he had given way to Sir Charles Napier. The gallant admiral, it was understood, was not to move an amend , ment, and he (the Lord Provost) hoped the meeting would give him a patient and deferential hearing. (Hear.) , Sir exam.= N•rus, who was received with loud and , repeated cheers, said, it may perhaps appear extraordinary , that a naval officer or admiral should come forward to ad ; these this meeting. It is generally supposed, and that very , improperly, that naval and military men are always for war and for large establisluneats, and that they have no idea beyond bloodshed. But I beg leave to tell you that this is a most erroneous notion. (Cheers.) Lord Nelson was P *et fond of bloodshed or war. (Renewed than.) And if yen read Lord Nelson's private letters you will fi nd that he was always wishing for peace. The Duke of Wellington was always a peace man after the war was over. (Loud laughter and applause.) His was always fer peace ; and he succeeded in preserving peace. And I can assure the citizens of Edin burgh— andl am proud of being a citizen of lone city— (eheers)—that I am just as anxious for peace as my hon. friend who sits at my, right hand (Mr. Cobden) or any , gentleman in the amembly. But we may differ as to the means of obtaining peace, and we may still more differ as to the means of preserving peaoe. (Hear, hear.) And I must say that I do not think that the plan propounded by my hon. friend Mr. Cobden is exactly the way to preserve the peace of this country. (Cheers.) That hon. gentleman has said very fairly and very properly, and it has a very excellent appearance, coming as it does with all that beauty of lan. raw which he is capable of using, that if France agreed to reduce her force to ten sail of the line, and that if we agreed to reduce our force to ten sail of the line also, they would both be placed on equal terms : granted. And he said farther, that if we reduce our force to five sail of the line, and the French did the same, we would be exactly on the same footing. But my honourable friend forgot to tell you that the French have an army of 400,000 or 600,000 men, and that Britain has an army in this country of little more than 20,000 men. (Hear, hear.) With all the great exertions which the government could make the other day, and with all the military display at Chebbsm, what did it produce ? The first division consisted of 8,000 men, and the reserved division consisted of 8,900 men, but they could not assemble their sixteen thousand men at one time at the camp at Chobham. (Cheers.) Well now, supposing we follow Mr. Cobden's advice and the opinion of the Peace Society, which I most perfectly respect, and that their views are perfectly right— (applause)—if you can possibly carry them into execution —(laughter)—but, suppose we have only an army of 20,000 men, and the French have an army of 400,000 or 600,000 men, which there is no doubt they have ; and that with only this small force a quarrel arise between France and us. My friend will perhaps tell me that we have no right to quarrel, and there is no necessity for it, that we might live at peace, and must be persuaded to keep the pesos. But should it unfortunately happen that we are not at peace, what is to prevent the French from embarking any number of men they thought fit, from seizing our stern boats, and from coming over to our country ; and, lot me ask, how we are to defend ourselves ? (Cheers.) Are we to be laid bare and open before all the world ? Are all oar men and women to be exposed to the French army, or any of her army that may come over here ?—because quarrels and mis understandings will take place. We have seen them take place, and that not long ago ; and I will explaia what did take place at that very time to which I refer, which will show you dangers which you were not perhaps aware of. I read this morning &speech of my friend Mr. Cobden, in which he gave you a very amusing relation that is quite true. He supposes that a gentleman had left this country A year ago, and who, when he left, had seen the militia Galled out, because there was a talk of a French Measles. He goes out to Australia, and never reads a newspaper till he has made a circuit of the world. On coming back, how astonished is he to find the English and French fleets lying side by side with their broadsides to each other, but not for hostile purposes, but entertaining each other in the most amiable m possible. But what caused that ? It was the unjustifiable quarrel which Russia had against Turkey. (Cheers.) I will accompany Mr. Cobden first to Australia, with another friend. Suppose another friend goes to Australia in the same vessel, and that previous to his going he had been in the City of Lon don Tavern, and had heard Mr. Cobden talk about crimp ling up Russia like a piece of brown paper, aad if, from the period he had left till he returns home, be ha d never read a newspaper, and that the first thing he sees is that Russia is very quietly walking into the two Principalities, what would he think of that? Ile would think, at all events, that they had net been crumpled up. (Loud cheers.) Mr. Cobden had been trying to-night to explain away what he had said then ; and he bad great power in making you be lie,* almost anything he chose. (Laughter.) After stat- said, dwg w tnasal dnn ogwkt a nd .hrt:eni gle m ri ao l f : tu t . r iti y t ‘ a i w tt i et ithi c rey e ay r t a shroe h l a ni a d : .t i yh r i o ,tel cf ai u l iisaaneguotio, wh i chba es Adm ir alf ohitnhre. Cobden had informed you that they were now lying peace ably liside each other in Besike Bay. It is jest twelve years ago since they were lying in Ilesika Bay in the same peaceful manner. We were lying cheek by jawl appa rently on the most friendly terms; but while that was the case what were the French iliiieg but meditating to destroy our fleet— Mr. Convex—Then why go there again ? Sir CIIAILLES NAPIER—My honourable friend asks me why we should go there again to lie side by side. That is another question; but let us look at the exact state of matters at the period to which I was referring. France differed with the allied powers about the last Eastern ques tion. Whether we were or were not right is not now the question; but France differed in opinion from us. She withdrew her fleet from Besikn Bay to Toulon ; she in creased her fleet by the enormous means she has in her power to twenty sail of a e line. With the greatest exer tions we could possibly make we have mustered no more than fourteen or fifteen sail in the Mediterranean at the moment France had twenty. It was contemplated by Monsieur Thins, who was then at the head of the to oretve Mehemet hgovernment, A to surprise hT had alsoßritish fleet, a and large fleet at Alexandria. It was Sir liken Peel who said he had three courses to follow. Now, one or other of these courses would have been at least destructive to us. The first course was to br ing 7 the twenty sail of the line to Alexandria to enclose the Turkish fleet, and to drive us from the coast, and had he done that he would have accomplished his object and have relieved Mehemet Then as to the second course. Ile was lying at Toulon a full month or six weeks in advance of us. 1 he whole force we had was 15 or 16 sail of the line in the Mediterranean, dispersed all over the coast. We could not move a single line of battle ship in England. Now, I ask the ladies and gentlemen here assembled what would have been the situation of this country in case of a war, with the French fleet at Cherbourg, sod with not one single ship in this country manned. What was there to prevent the sending an army of 50,000 or 60,000 men over to this coun try, and who would have defended you ? (Rear.) Would our 10,000 or 15,000 troops do because we had no more ? And yet my hon. friend has still a wish to disarm this country. In consequence of the remanstrances which he and the Peace Society made to Lord John Russell and the whig government in 1848, they succeeded in diminishing the fleet to almost nothing; and 1 believe that the Emperor of Russia would never have attempted this ingression against Turkey if we had a fleet at the time ano could nave said, Illtep the puteee " (Cheers.) My hen. friend talk. of economy. Let me ask him where is the economy. In 1848, through his exertions-1 give him credit for it— (a laugh)—fur he can almost do anything he undertakes, particularly with the whig government—(laughter)—in 1848 he succeeded in diminishing the English troops by 5,000 or 6,000, and in getting paid off six or seven sail of the line fur two or three years; and these ships were put in ordinary after they had been full manned and full disciplined, and ready fur whatever might occur; and what happens? Why, we were just again, in the course of two years, about to recruit the army ; the whin government was afraid of my hon. friend, and it was the tory government (I give them credit for it), who were bold enough to come for ward and tell the country that it was no misery to increase the army and navy, end they carried the proposition through the Rouse of Commons. I may say with acclama tion. My hon. friend, I remember, made a speech on the occasion, stating that he would nit resist the proposition, be cause if the ministry asked for 20,000 men he believed it would be carried with acclamation. We have now a decent and respectable force. (Laughter and cheers.) But my hon. friend has spoken of what France has done, and what we have done, and gives us a rebuke. lie says we began with the war steamers. My hon. friend is mistaken. The French began erecting war steamers long before us, and we were obliged to do the same. The same thing took place in regard to screw steamers. It was the French and not we who began them ; and we gut so frightened about the matter, seeing what our neighbours had done, that the government set vigorously to work, and we have esta blished now a strew force which I believe will ensure to the country perfect security and safety. And if the people of this country do not choose to pay an insurance for their safety and protection, let them come forward with the Peace Conference and petition the government to destroy the army and navy, leaving the protection of the country to whoever chooses. I cannot, however, bring myself to be lieve that the people of this country—that the people of Scotland, on the whole of whose coasts from the far north to the Tweed, there is hardly a gun mounted to resist the smallest gun-boat that chooses to attack them—l can hardly believe that they will adopt any such course. (Cheers.) Is this the position in which this great country ought to be left in ? And I also say, that unless you have and keep up a proper fuzee so long as other natiot.s keep up large forces, we cannot be safe for one single moment. Now, we come to the great question which is agitating Europe at the present mo ment. I have not the smallest dlubt that we remonstrated with Russia when we understood that she was going to attack Turkey. You may remember that our minister at Constanti nople called upon the admiral in the Mediterranean to come up immediately to Constantinople. The admiral declined going there, and I think moat properly. At that time, through my hon. friend's exertions, our navy was reduced to nothing. We had not two ships in England, and Russia had a fleet of 27 sail of the line at Cronstadt. Ido not say that that fleet was manned by fi rst-rate seamen ; but, I re gret to say, no more is our fleet at present. But Russia had a fleet, and we had nothing. We therefore wisely ab stained from doing anything till we got ourselves plaited in a proper position. (Hear, hear.) Still, however, if our government had shown more energy after we had got our Hest in a proper state of preparation—if we hail said to Russia, if you cross the Truth we will send our fleet to Cronstadt, and our fleet combined with that of France, my own opinion is that Russia would never have crossed the Froth. (Cheers.) Now, Ityssia has creased the Froth, and I want to know how you are to get her back again. From the season of the year Russia will gain time, and unless the government of this country and that of France take some energetic measures for turning her out, she will probably stay where she is. Don't suppose lam particularly friendly to the Turks. I do not care if the Turks were across the Bosphorus to-morrow ; but I don't wish to see their place taken by Russia. (Cheers.) I think it will be the most unfortunate thing for Europe at large and for this country if Russia gets the Christian population of Turkey under her dominion. After showing the great extent of country over which Russia would in that case bear sway, and stat ing that if she succeeded Russia would exclude this country from the Baltic and the Mediterranean, he said that this country was bound to do everything in her power to pre vent Russia moving further, and to drive her back again. In that case this country ought to insist upon the 1 paying more attention to the Christian subjects in this country than had hitherto been the case, and fulfilling all the promises they might make. Sir Charles in conclusion expressed it as his opinion that if France and England did not come forward hand in hand, and the other nations of Europe, to prevent the hostilities between Russia and Turkey no man wouln see the last of that war. lie also stated that he was as fond of peace as any one could be, although he was not one of those who would support nonsreststing opinions, and resumed his seat amid loud and reiterated applause. The gallant admiral immediately left the meeting. Mr. Thill3llT, M.P., said the admiral said that the member for the West Riding, who could do everything— (t Hear, hear," and laughter)—persuaded a feeble govern ment to reduce the armaments of this country to nothing. Is 15,000,0001. a year nothing? (Applause.) We are against intervention. Now, this question of intervention is a most important one, for this reason, that it comes before us sometimes, and asks us by all our love of freedom, by all our respect for men struggling for their rights, to interfere in the affairs of some other country; and we find now in this country a great number of those who are calling out loudest for interference are those who, being very liberal in their politics, are bit terly hostile to the despotism and excluiveneu of the Rus sian government. (Cheers.) I should like to ask this meeting what sort of intervention we are to have ? Mr. Bright went on to combat the argument that if Russia got to Constantinople he would be at Egypt, and we should not be able to go the overland journey, by saying, that though he did not believe there was the slightest possibility of anything of the kind happening, yet, under any circum stances, he did not believe it at all likely that we should have our mails stopped, or persons arrested in passing through Egypt on our way to India; but at all events it must be a much more definite danger which would drive hind to incur the guilt, the suffering, and the ruin of war. In reply to some who said that Russia would get to India, he said it was far more likely that we should invade Russia from India, than that Ramie should invade India. Mr. Bright concluded amidst loud cheering, by enforcing the Christian obligations connected with the maintenance of peace. The resolutions of the Conference were carried. THE REGISTRATIONS. WEST SURREY. Archer Ryland, Esq., the revising barrister, held his seventh court at the Swan lan, Cbertsey, on Wed nesday. In the parish of Chertsey the liberals objected to Mr. G. B. Cole, who claimed for "rental above 601." Mr. Cole's agent proved that the lease was granted at • rental of 651., but on cross-examination by Messrs. Wells and Denney it appeared that Mr. Cole sub-let for 471. 10s. The Barrister expunged the name. In the parish of East Moulsey 15 reform claims, made b Mr. Deunes, the solicitor of the Westminster Freehold Land Society, were allowed by the Barrister. The claims arose in respect of property held at Kent Town, East Moulsey, being portions of the estate of 30 acres purchased for the axiety in 18.50. There are now 77 voters whose claim arises from this estate. On the day's revision the reformers had a majority of 31. TUE ACCIDENT ON THE GREAT 'WESTERN RAIL WAY.—RXXDINO, FRIDAY.—By means of great exertion the larger proportion of the debris has been removed, and by to morrow the trains will be able to pass down the proper line. The covering over the platform, though fallen down, is discovered to be in a state lit to remain; it is now being raised with the aid of hydraulic machines, and will loe kept to form a protection from the weather to passengers waiting on the platform. The directors of the company met yesterday, and the inquiry into the cause of the accident is adjourned for the present. There is no doubt that now the whole of the station will be recon structed.