The Express. — London, England, 1857-06-27 00:00:00

aIS ot meals where they were. No pint was likOlegfroafty • ha m the eareifiry than that of Irving she mere of Oki, Mks weft acceerble. The same elheelles did a nti ap i p " t r y le rib whisk right he proved efterarde se the re Warn was net aormary. He hoped this Erna word he anidetedy thecomesima o. ISO orsidesat as • the Adorn, Airearel bed Megrim mad ltd rnek a the pram oat d leered m Cherie, Poet, saw, lad MO es ewe otter lees nese mid emdembly =sn r a *dr nellease um e word be to peso Yee to her earn, cad they was eatilled to wane emeraweefesi. A. to the Lesion metre he thought g isgammikie em how mark they mark gra as leer by the change. Wks Meese gout Mau pow midst* Mire the commission It wee mar lb. eapowMs of the Weimer Ming thrown err hm he prehumba t kern and met at ail with • stew to snub an alteration es was now paged. Hs was la favour ef haft tenderly with ed fakeers tememed. He shoal! keg Ye Med spa le beer whir right be mid ea belt sides I• terniree, GM be beget the government meth de the urn. Conelderier ton ell the Marne tenon the revilers' tarn weeld is tree, gad also all tbs. e t 1,4301. boa the her term dime mast be a greet M amas of the arum Ram burner ; at the tame time these am mother Am of bairns whist woad be loot to the greeters. He was at Reset rather la favour of throwing era the buidasee, but alinement erniderstioa bed bed km to an opposite conclusith. It asented them was • statute whirl' prevented modem hems snaring ints prtnership with milaitons, in other weeds, of divldier the spoil with them, where the solicitor. brought dim InelantL (Great laughter.) It wae proved by the evidence before the ortunifseam that the prorate, being • small body, stood equally between the miters sal the court, end would not lend themselves to anything the iemwsper practice*. If the hominess were throes opal fres fraid be 10,000 or 12,000 practitioners, and the court wield *IS have much lees con trol over them. Th4l business had been hitherto most emir haunt, conducted, and it was not worth while to run the risk of disturbing this by throwing upon the business to the profession. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said be had omitted to refer to thole clergymen who acted as surrogate., who would D, benefited rather than injured; and the intixeste of the poor man would also be promoted, as wets as those of the rich, by the dill now before the house. Mr. COLLIER mid there were serious defects ia the bill, bat he hoped they might be remedied. First he deemed it musecessery to create • new court at all ; and secondly, he Objected to the Goer as propm.l. He did not believe that this was the bill of ha Attorney-Gemini% for the one he intro duced last year wee dieunetramilly opposite to this. Tide wee the mustiest—that, the largest possible measure. (Hem, beer.) At peasant, three jurisdictiosa deft with testament - . ary thus. - the orolaiastiod courts, courts of law. and the Court of Clammy, end the bill of lest year proposed to unite these three jurisdiction. into is.. The pommel bill, I Instead of steeling with the thee juriedictime, took only that of the ecelothisucal eoarts, and cat it in two, giving the greater share to the o.urti of Law. This was the lowliest measure in pant of utility, bat not of exposes, for it meddled - the country with the coat of • new court, with its clean, train-bearers, be. But all the pest queatimm as to t..s amity of tauter. and °ibex matter. wore not to be tried by the now court, but Weed over to the courts of law • the perpetuating what • algid he called the ff battledore sad shaulecork" system of ' raker, by which the unfortunMe diem was knocked about Mom ear asset to another, and lost • pardon of hie feathers ' la mob. Mar, bear.) In this tree, mime mold dm go bias tamer mud, rely to be beaded ever la des mane to re earn el law. Why should he sot go there at once ? se lme.mesd that the opera of law shoo.* tamer all the mlmjml7snesad that all the cornea lam Maness drield be diure l.ll 7s la the am court, net by &judge, bat tf . :Zitrar with • miry of 1,5u0L a-year. Amidst all the ear bril system ha led never bred it ' mmpleirsdU ida t bed re few Dark bat saber too may. Out it Oil Ord seem the rest opprobrium el our erten. issently, we bed Marnmedthe seashaleas miselseks of • oon- Imet °lrritated's between the Ousel et Chereery and the Oars of ewe the smart of the British Dunk. (Hem, hem At retest • ornsiedua was mouth imuke Woodier at., were tee miry judges, sad in the Is.. of that amemisrea it wee rowed to arm* a siz brathjudge. In Amertm smith Milk there were es doctors as proctors—(laughter)—ms mode iterle wale sad died, sod he ordinary tribunals bed as Slimily in darning of the biro. Thirty ego Me strie,Mor marts in Seedier were ebeM ad, but the people wield not mime the awake of my new and to their Med. A new coot we net meta la Iltedend Res the purpose of eseceeding to the burner of the marts that want abolimbed. The joriedictioa wee arsine& to the fibeetiet Courts red the Court of Preis, sad he blind no &yahoo's valid my that • sew mart ter desiderated by the people it doetland. Why ' Amid not the court. of Water!~ de to Daelend whet • the Court of heasion did to liorkad ? The erelesiaticr marts were • dimesamt eleremence, which • bealtby action of the existing tribunate ought to absorb. The Lord Clemeepor himself, in iatteducing the bill to the lest moon of parliament, Mr that the new judge would have mat to nothing todo; and this being the cms, be could sot housefly propose the madam of a new court. This was mid as the 10tb of February I. the present year, sod yet in the month of May • new judge was proposed. (Heir.) The Lord Chancellor, indeed, said that he Illleemw court end the new judge against his betterrz meat, but by _whit informs be was induced to eller bye opinion he (Mr. Collier) did not know. The Lord C hemat ite still expired the opinion, on introducing the 101 l in the preent storm that the new judge would sot have is do, and thereon he proposed to filaa Lim amistan74 to the new Divorce Court and also judge of the Admiralty Coszt. He should like to keen. cm what principle or system them tkeerriedietions, which had nothing In cornea, were seized up together. Oa what ground ewe wills, Air, mid merlages pet together, sad banded over to one mem ? They might es well give as. court jerk/Medea in beakeerey, bur glary, sod bills d esikenge. (Ham _Mar.) They shear rather aka • leer view of their pedlar system, sad hal rah it as a It made one Obese* despair of the cern et law redeem whoa such a juriaktiou was prop red for the areptenot el the House of Corner. He had taz Yoked lammed to the appointment of • Warne j with hope sad onsildeace; bat if • Wailer *treks did mot deal with law reform to • more cengesheaula end suborn del me Ismer this this bill desk with it, he was afraid that the maim of seek ea odor wadi he marry without melt. (Hear, beer.) With regard to the jam:fiction of the Comet of Admiralty, that should be given to the courts ef common law. Thom marts decided mean of the collision ef meek, end awarded images, sad be could axe they should not eke decide se to the the dealer beams vomits. His male to the DM were that it saddled the country with • new sent, 'Mkt was seneesesery, end that the court would set been *Scant court for the puree. The judge of the new court would be judicially freed; he would have to live an arm hooks and straw whale the well-fatted calms weld be himeihmed to see k er amt. Behead marner to esmaillse le mare Oil ragwort new meet be sa air With • veglalnr, sad tsir he whelp el the sankathen Mien it • emit et ammo law, to .meek, with the =baof Me thigh he kit mikes/ her IWO me, and esseleed the tugger el his here, and breed frimil he fieldler-OsireaL He did not ammo that the het of la bee mid lamed friend being la shoe meld alter his =ima. led he keeled that he would MS support the arm 01111 word with regard to the speak There was • marts in the dill allowing an appal he the Jimbeiel Com mittee of the Privy Coaak who were Agar le had the as am le the Home ef Levi, Bsse was m kerne, d the dmilkoodt sod Wham system seek. It wa d the Mater imerterse le give Me elm* ewer jandietha k ass ef rebate, bairns sot te de se wield anoint le • halal elastics he the pee men. Dud be aril not ander. ✓end why the tees* tart Mirka druid be adopted kr lealleallem an Ms Mese= districts for non- Modanfrua arid hs rises erstriematk than to Ism see set elf he tery. the contentious, end • dilkent met for trying non-contentious = .6o 7' . ldis would eery mei limit the pub& There was cm* sae glom of registrar's llsr Westmorland wed Cumberend he instance, mai*, °barter. Feterit=h waL e =it =Mention iii prt of Mr Northam ire,ll free. He mho take the sew of the hum wba Cia tt meaty newt districts should sr be Gird an Ilk his. mil Named Mend the AttornerOarml depad W propo aka en hest point in the bill d wt seides. Time went the endtoes of he objections he by to the rem* bilk sad be should admit causes hr the pm of Wee. dna* the amendmern be had pointed out. He wee eke,* of Mi nion that they orb: altogether te get rid of the old sunthrom sad obsolete esehulestkal court, and trenshr the to the ordinney irthemals of the country. (liese,= " Mr. Rolm - add is skald arns4 amok* the erre et kw reform the views eartmid by he Ira sad burnt member for Plymouth rem shrid. As he miersed Ms gemetita, the e l=ted end terng e rmase me the Ll= sell reale if =:f ligai tednikidr= l et Pr ti: the imgemlbillig—ef ddrnitZ ga rb a z d ag iti Vea lumi t Ike perksherriellelisa id whit • sekie essa kesarnienme me sl aked he the grater rat dads esdasy. Dottie rimers did net ease lase smashed k the telburrls of the swam all hem wq erns is the amain of Me jmiadiction of these Irkutsk The l defer mese It, the mid incase, of wills etleargl=nat pageety, hi telbsaals which were le enebespe the laths they had to discherge =they were asset, berme ably lamilltirn when ael pr lad increased dr a of = grn Zed - ether share property by, of d ie kind. Whilet cre•beM hest the Home of CoMIIIOII6 esiar the beet Wand Ise athumately deal* with this still sr lemell se may mined questions of law et het that it wee very popery rehired to a royal somninke. Thin was • emerneeler en his subject in 111110, whisk reported la pit; • seemillse efthe House of Corneas eemidered it ; the • temeakke ef the House et Lords; this • MM. NEWSY* et the Home of Corneae ; and lastly, Ow me the Charm, C to which be bed Is wig the sepplimental cos dear ef Lied Justice Terme, the whist H ef the Rees, Vice-Claucelice Per Wood, Vies-Cbra albr Xindersiey, Hr. Jerks Cum the Dem efait Arks, the Queen's Advocate, the two Chrnery barrister, the right km. *PM* (hr J . Oaken), and the tight kon , der mobs hit Oxfordshire (Yr. Firalsy). malt bm hie opinion, be well for the hones to me whet . That afro million tame to the otadmisal a l % " l i t Mara' earls ahead be semi away, mil en mw end atehlisktil k heir steed. The has. sad lemma nmbse kr embeed to think that the new owl weal lam mefleg a to EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JUNE 27, 1857. THE . That men from an entire misapprehension of the snare dna enema firm business of the seeleeisseinal nuns. The area annesticatios of a will wee not all that was rawafrel The common room limminses of dine comb requawil mean knowledge, espressos, andledocation. Then aeons hod to Esterniitse who was to be samentar, and other gelatins which affected the rights-of prapeeey in the highest degree. To suppose, therefore, that beeeu.t the men did not it every day in the week it bad so businees to In, was as entire a fallacy, Irma whomsoever it might come, as allythieg that ever entered into the mind of a law reformer. He admitted it might be lanible to engraft on that juriniction either bfl \nett" , of businen based on the civil law. These members of the folllOliallioll were of opinion that the jurisdiction in this matter should be trandened to the Court of Chancery ; but whether it wva tea. eyed to the Court of Chancery or to a court of common law, re to an entirely new tribunal, Smut be mole a separate departmeat. It must be • distinct department, with distinct names, to whatever tribunal tbejanediction was transferred, and thorn font tbaccommiseion new to the madmion that it onght tube transferred to • new tribunal.' That was the reason why he should oppose say attempt to do It. than was proposed to be done by this ha There wen points in the bill with which he did not agree, but this was an 0,11•Pi..0 on which they man maerifice their particular view. in order to carry a, greet nen& (Hear, beer.) With regard to the compensation, ho hoped the house would enable the governioent to pass • larger inasure of compensation than the bill proposed to give. (Hear.) In his opinion it wee an entire inihike to einwsse that in dealing with the proctors they were dealing pawns who had a monopoly. If they abolished the SUM it would ho necessary to esta rbtallbw ander the name of clerks, or some other aims. The business now done by the pro, baw might he gins to others, but the judge of the new court men employ f.llll, prison to carry on the business. The mmethia of salary was a creation to be yet determined. If he was rightly informed, the proctors ma • body did not oppose the former hill, and therefore he hoped that justice would be dose them. Mr. COLLIEIt, is explanation, said that he was quoting the wads of the Lord Chancellor when he said the new judge would ban next to nothing to do. Mr. BOLT—I said, from whomsoever that opinion might come. (Hear.) Mr. MA LIMB ezpremed his satisfaction that he could sup port the emend reading of the present bill, which Ifee in con formity with the views he kadeapremed for the last four years. He felt much gratification in being able to support this bill ; but it should be understood that he did not mean to pin himself to all the details, as there were amoral to which he objected. He had always agreed is the necessity of doing away with the numerous jurisdictions, and mooring the whole matter from the control of the ecclosiastical courts, and wtsfiliehist • Queen's court of probate. One evil in the present system was the rule.. to bon nnabdis,which required a will to be proved in every province where the testator had property. As be gare a general 'appal to the bill he would sat them enter into his objections to the details, but he wee strongly opposed to the clans which gave the appeal to the House of Lords intent of to the Privy Council. The bill was one which called on many persons to make great sacrifices, and destroyed greet interests. He bad heard with much pleasure the de claration of the Attorney-General with regard to the proctor. of the Prerogative Court of York, fur if the bill had abolished their offices without compensation it would have coinniitted a gross injustice. As soon, however, as the case was stated to the boo and learned gentleman, he at once conceded their claim, and that of the proctors of the Prerogative Court of Cheater, but add he could not concede that of the proctors in London, on the ground that they had DO aliel 01 compensa tion when • mere improvement we. effected. The principle was the mete In both cams, as the proctors of York were not:gale than the victims of an improved poetise. PALMERSTON—They are to be swept of the face of the land. lIALINS—If the noble lord edmittsltheminciple, he would refuse recermatits to those seven-eightha who were to be swept ME The proctors of London were about 120 in number; they bod were'entlemen of great respectability, and member. of • ywhich bad enjoyed its prtvile,tex for over sin centuries ; they had acquired their profession ate great expense, and laid out their plans for life, and it worth! be a Bros. injustice to annihilate 120 families and throw them en the world. It. was sure the home would admit their claim if it could be proved that the bill, while preserving their privilege. in Dome, did, In reality, destroy them. The princi ple of compeneatiiio was conceded in the case of York, and the matter resolved Reel( Into a question of fart. They were told that the bill preserved the eortosin form business, ' sad maths' formed the bulk of their practice they bad no claim to compewration. If (be proctors proved meth, faraway that their business would be annihilated—if the public tatneet demanded its abolition, public justice required est they should be compered. As far as he maid ea certain the state of the public mind, it was admitted they were entitled to compensation, if the fact was proved ; and he warned the noble lord that he would yet meet with diffi culties in passing the bill if be did not concede a principle which the house and country were satisfied was founded in judoes. The number of wills proved and administrations granted in England was 23,000; of them not morn than • hundred were conteeted, so that it would appear the non contentims boainess produced the greater portion of their jr itit. The bill, however. proposed, that in all were the property did not meted 1,5001., the will should be proved in the district court, and thereby at once took away 7-8( lia of their entire busioem. In committee he would go into statements which would place this matter beyond doubt. In the torture bill the Attorney-General had proposed to allow them as compensation the amount of half their renelpte, calculated on en average of the lam flee years. It would be proposal in committee to adopt that saga and to charge the compensa tion, as in the form, bill, on the mitre.' lee fund. It would thus be no burden on the public. Mr. WESTHEAD wed the clams of the proctors of York to compemation. It would have been. monstrous in justice so throw these over,as their ere was very different bola that of the London roctors, end the system at York wee unique. It wee constituted in 1311, and from that time be the t the number of proctors attached to the court was Daly 8 ; each proctor was snowed one clerk, who eoe• seeded as vacancies occurred. He objected to the division of the county of York into four dratricts, ea proposed by the bill; if it was corried into effect, in ease of a death near York the will would be Pent to Hull or Richmond to be proved. Sir E. PERRY admitted that the time was come when all parties who were interested in this question should sink minordifferenore; for himself he would not dwell on hie strong objection that sufficient attention was not paid to local in. ferrate. Ihe hon. gentleman opposite (Mr. Matins) had aimed his objections to the multiplicity of jurisdictions, but the real objection was to the conflicting jurisdiction; nothing could be better than to have local courts in every district to grant proteges; he feared the bill would rather increase the estpare to weans living in the counter. He would have bean glad to see in the ball • provides to give jurisdiction, contentious or non contagious, to the county courts in all came, no matter what the amount, when the parties speed to ma nn It to that court. The hie pregumail* appoint • etweler et district re =. He wield pair dot they Wile et come attached county MAW& He had, however, rhea prtheipilly to =peen his optima ea the principle ef empereitoe to the polars whith bed bees se timeagly tart It was rather era mirasious Irk lo mesh a dale, but he felt it hi. duty le Niel la rids lord let Milan to theme demands. MAWR Ihe eseeperellee wee ehtesed as the tee fund or net, it met sere Dem the petiole et the yobbo. On a for mer sammisa lie melees If n= dr wolves wane to ass* the MI they we retain the common Men b y lea by het the t bill gave it to them ler ever. They Imo by all gorlanee of the present ameion Ilea the adds laid wean etheiesty powerful, and could carry asyllitellie be ehsee is hr ivi also knew the house wee vayeseaswied, mil the noble lord would not listen teas chins aried ea him, hat adhere to the principle he had already adopted, awl awry the bill ex it now stied. Mr. HUDSON owl the deb= of the proctor. of York to the consideration Min boos, sad elprared a tope that the city of York woutine mule the centre of one of the new districts to be created under the act. FIUTIATICITOR-43E,YETAIOringratulated the home sad the coantry on the prospect of at length piing this bill. (Hem.) From the time he had Prat commeneed the pink" of his pavilion this subject id timid the allention of all lowa reformers, and ewe he had a art In the hoar various bills had been introduced. ' All were weed es the necessity of reform, it while they was statinding ae to the proper mode of destroying the Whig .thrirdithth, that jurisdiction con tinued; and Wen sem wahaewn as Ibis wee introduced, which reads a strew appeal be them to forget minor differ ' ices, Doctors' Cs wadi &orbit for many peen. Til• hon. =mbar he rpm& mild not deny that this bill vwald pt rid el the sae eingilebed of, but contender! it mild net de me In the best menissr, and referred to the gems pespened by him of tmotherhur the jurisdiction to the essemen My exerts. He (the Soncitor-l•eneral) would if muse he glad If such • memare omM be carried, had he mot Pemba his hem Mead that the objections mielminell le dui mane were se strong That the bill W never be. upend r Nees Is a meet reeding. gaged te lid thetAlespreurnment imMuded b give MI ee damp Wel h* m& He W net the hest hesita tion In giving W nnipasElsd rent to the bill, looking at it as • putiffWmmense essilmeaky pitting rid of existing evils En • meet sillegnsl my. WO aimed to the Umber of the canal, he mad not hip ti lekkg dist when it had to attend le the 'semen stem beises. =Wigs suil and the lesesehr of the=r4.= . l..... ii- = be hey secupled. He ing the house ea the of getting eid ds thiespesed grierance, end • hope that In the semi eta mry short time the mossere would beams the law ef the W. (Cheers) Mr. HEADLAM tee glad M Sri We wee a prospect of I I beleitelidE Imam le a decMry settle aimed elm et those We IS Wet other app.. whet& thwese ism verbed. Weer the peat teet lelhenermmenees had henget rid sC the ses ▪ Nthesiggesthethesthe sal threther Shed Win digs vethillig it this lets tho Court efltheacery. Wish respect le the ere at the praetors, he thought the madame( York Meta la a dense guidon from those se the stolen et Lea" awl flat their ewe woe doorstep of further emmidessiles. Mr. CAI RNS rejoiced in the prospect of the prig el • MISR= which had already remised the se m* d er hod of the legislature, sod he believed that the seems INS sieribuethle to the ' fact tint It did set ge tee ler, but aeseesmodeled IMtif to the exigent., siniemee, end steered clew of the elgesims entertain. be termer pepositioas. And s ltu end vas not the time le arm the detail of die thews, the loth, Ile ping* and detail. were se fine that he thought It nememary to throw out some suggestion for the essitheethe et the Attorney. General In Its future wpm He did net agree with the idea entertained . by the hon. and Imensd member for Plymouth that the judge at the bend of the Court of Probate would ham very little to do. The sew judge might to lame all the dignity of • judge of the ingrates teazle, sad to ham ralant bummer provided for him, mud he did not think dine would be much difficulty in that respect. Oes point to which he would call the attention of the At toniey-Gensval was that of contentions litigation. The bill provided that in every cam in which the hew at law deputed • will the 'natter was to be withdrawn from the judge of and sent as an iasoe into the court. of common Cr i f .l. Ho wanted to know by the decisive of the jury should net be obtained unde w r the judge of probate. One of the greatest evils at the pnetrit time waa the handing of • taw from one court to souther, and that might le avoided in the use of the new court, the judge of which would be peculiarly fitted to direct a jury to ouch matters. With regard to appeals from the dociaion In the ewe of villa, wider the bill the appeal wu to be, net to the Judicial Com mittee of Privy Council, hot to be sent to the Judicial Cwu mittee, and by that court to be referred to the Houma Lords. Daring the last parliament a diacowien took place respecting the appellate junadiction of the Hume of Lords, and be was not aware Gait anything had been done substantially to remedy the errors then complained of. Whet "ratted, then, could exist for transferring the appellate jurindietion in this use to that tribunal, trout another which had hitherto given ratiefaction p Then, again, the contention. boainees VW to be decided in mall meow by the county courts, but the bill contained this singular provision, that the appeal was to be to the courts of common law—thus multiplying petty tnbunals, and giving riot to difference, of derision when there ought be an appeal to the Court of Probate. lie thought a serious (mention would sriao upon that part of the bill which related to country districts. propoaition woo to creme 41 country districts fur the proof and revers eon of with where the property wee under 1,500 f. It would, therefore, be necessary to provide 41 buildings and en efficient staff for each, and he coufemod he did not think the end would be commensurate with the expense. It would be most desirable to furniah the house ;with en eatimete of the cost of them buildings, and the staff neeeesary fur the proper custody of the deed, The bill pn,vided that any person making en affidevit that the demeoed had snlly raided in a particular district, proof should take piece and the sfilderit be conclusive. Now, supp osing • penal wanted to ledge caveat again** the proof o • will, how would be be able to do it ? The person who obtained probate on such affidavit might at once proceed to London and transfer any stock which stood in the name of the deceased. If the caveat was to be entered at the central court and mut tab the district, sloe method ought to be devised by which the country court would be apprised of Um entry of that caveat. lle would submit to the Attersey- Gmeral whether it would not bs better to bring up the original with to the central ollite, and preserve copies in tlie districts, than to have the original documents armttered over 41 buildings throughout the country. The question of empeneation was one of extreme difficulty • and the ques tion ought to be kept open for more full and ample discus sion. The Attorney-General, who conaidered the principle compensation altogether vicious, sold that it was absurd to talk of It when there would be nothing Lut en alteration in the practice and rules. The hon. and learned gentleman must have greatly !bonged his opinion on that point, for his name was appended to the report of the commission, which stated that in the opinion of the 1•013110 . 1AtiODBIS it would be necessary, in common justice to the proctor", that compeesa altould be made to them if their businem woo thrown open. The report did not contemplate the abolition of the business of proctors, but the throwing open of the busine ss others which this bill was about tn du . . . The ATTORNEY-GENERAL slid he prepared to sin the prortore whet by their evidence before the monniimioners they mid would be sullVient —the common form business. Kr. CAIRNS submitted that the questim required further eosideration. The proctors said that if the 001111111A1 form business wee left untouched cud unaltered they would be mutant to site up the contentious busbies.; but this hill dwml7;to take away from the central court the comma j oineis with regard to it albite+ under the value of 1,5001. Thu question then aeon whether there was not • ear for compensation. Here were a number of gent lemon— about one hundred—who had paid enormous sums for their latillamme, which now la • peat omeseero would be de aler/Id; sled the matter was AM more compbosted when the twee rif the York proctors wee taken into consideration. (Rear, hear.) In conclusion ho would wain urge on the government the pro piety of reconsidering the points to whkh he had directed their attention. (ltow.) Mr. AYItTt)N wialied to call the attention of the govern ment to the difficulty which would be experienced in dealing with the hill in committee. The bill proposed to abohah • certain awake of offices and to create others, sad eamparstlas wee to be given with respect to some came, bat metadag was said with regard to others. Me thought the government ought to place on the table a ellnieseent of the public monies that would be dealt with by CM. mom*, en estimate of the expenditore, whether arieing Brent the auntkes of new office. or compensation for the to be abolliiaa, sad ohs, • statement of the amount which the proctors would be likely to lose. Re objected to the principle eloempowestion, but it had been so long acted upon thee It would be wrong to rake the general questimi I. the pram& insleata When he looked at the clause which had hews laawlai far the benefit of Lord Centerbary he thought it wield he a pod senadal if industrious individual. should be deprived of their Lamm without imopeneation, when a asehinan, who had only the exportation of OS" end who hod weer done anything, was to receive en annuity AV ilk equal to the emoluments of that riflke. (Hear, hear.) The government ought to piece on the table the information for which be had asked with erred to them pecuniary chimes, in order to guard against injustice heir done. (Hear.) Mr. NAI ' IER tendered hie thank', to the Attumey General for having introduced this moot valuable bill to th; house. It was not to be summed that they *mid carry the bill exactly as it was proposed. There must be • great deal of compromise. Ho differed entirely from the hon. gentlemen who had just eat down that the principle of compensation was an attest one. On the canonry, he thought it just, bat it ilepearbid on the particular ran. His own feeling was, Wet the praetors had a claim for compensation. Seeing that the bill been brought on in a friendly spirit, he thought they should d endeavour to make it as perfect a bill ea they Gould. It was the best bill they were likely to get. Color' STK RS should vote for the necond reeding of the bill, Ia fell espeetatiou that compensation would be given to the parties who were deprived of their emoluments by the Mr. W. H. ADAMS hoped the Attorney 'General would reconsider the question of milaponeat ion. He suggested whe ther it was nocemary to confine the limit to 1,5001. in the country. With regard to many robotes the amount was not material, and where there was no difficulty, an option should be given either to take it out in the country or to have re- CUIIIIIO to the court in London. In committee he should he disposed to take the senile of the house es to the Admiralty junsdiction being transferred to the new court, which he thought ought to be reeled in • court of common law. Mr. WALPOLE agreed in the pentacle of the bill, end considered it the hem adjustment of a dile= question. It. thought, however, the court should have power to determine every question connected with teetamentaryjurisdiction, and that to prevent varieties of rules and decisions in the district courts there should be one court of appeal. The bill was then read a second time. FRAUDULENT TRUSTEES, &c., BILL. The home went into committee on this bill. On clause Mr. WALPOLE moved to leers out "property," end insert " mate or intermit in land of any tenure, or of any share or interest in any public stock or fund, whether of this kingdom, or of Great Britain or of Ireland, or of any foreign state, or in any stock or fund of any body corrate, com pany, or society, or of any security for money whatsoever, or of any Huila." The clause as it stood would have • tendency to prevent perilous of character and position from accepting the (Ace of trustee, and the ob ject of the amendment, with soother which he intended to propose, war to diminish that tendency. The hon. and learned gentleman drew a distinction between the cam of a trustee who applied "money" to his own nee, and one who sold out stock or any other property which was in the nature of a chattel. In the former case a men was only criminally insolvent, and could be dealt with by the bankruptcy and insolvency lawn, while in the latter his offence, partook of the nature of larceny; and Its contended that the punishment provided by the bill ought not to be ex tended indifferently to both chimes of offence. Then the evidence to prove intent to defraud would be very difficult to obtain. There might be eircumetroee is which • person powering trust money might, from want of knowledge, commit • breech of true, end if he innocently stopped payment be would be liable under this bill. The trustee who had money in his hands and did not pay it was not more than criminally insolvent, and differed froin a man who dealt fraudulently with stock. If the amendment wan agreed to it would be possible to strike at Mom mom of offences of the highest elms, while it would exempt three who, though criminal, were yet criminal in a sena° different to the other. In legislating on this subject it was well to muskier that, though leglaation could do much, it could not do ell, end the public must be taught that the great= safeguard in these matte= worn implicit of trust and the trustworthiness of those who execute duties, the essence of which was confidence. It wee a question whether the clause, as he proposed to amend it, would not and its pro per place in a bill for the relief of truster; but he shoal* content himself with moving hie amendment. The ATTORNEY-OENERAL said that la the garret tendency of the observations of his hon. and learned friend he concurred, but with regard to the immediate past, which woo the substitution of words, of particular words kw = words of demonstration, which would include e fir of properly, he could not concur. Suppose n et a ale had collected 6001., end having 600 sovereigns, Issvee a man his executor, end the executor takes the 400 sovereign; sad appbes them to his own use, and robs the widow sad alb= al the testator, was he not en M ashie= trustee, sad was he to be exempted from the opera tion of this bill beams he land not got the money by the sale of AN& ? Aga%a man died, and directed hie trustee to sell hia=, sot in his debts, to invest the proceeds and mom his children, and the trustee having tuna the pepwly into money, and then converted it to his VIM 1111111, wee be to be exempted from the operation of the hilly How importile wee it to say that if • truetee took money only he incurred • debt, end that • truer who took stock, or say other security, end turned it into money, end used it for his own purpose; committed a crime. If you left eat the word " money," the most painful instances of fraudulent robbery would escape punish ment, for be hoped that the bill would reach numerous cues in which smell same pried into the bands of fraudulent trustees, end were used by them. He objected, therefore, to the eannteration of the nature and kinds of property, for the fraudulent trustee would be liable under the bill, sad he (the Atteney-General) would robin the genera word . property. Ile desired not to interfere with the me mi.. of tritons sad metal quo dust, but here there was walling to frighten the most nervone man ; for no one could by potability come within the mope of the Lill mikes he wilfully appuipristed to his own are the property of a panua which he wee bound to protect. He hoped the committee would not agree to this amendment, Mama it would deprive the bill of Its mama security. Mr. HEADLAM said that in opcsking of the policy of late:awing these word, ho must my that in eonsidering the ilium he had nun to • coo, lmion with regard to it contrery to that to which the committee and the public would probably cone, and that was that the whole clause sad the extension of the it MMus! law which it curd, would be prodective of indnitely more mischief than good. There were many cases in which j oat punishment might be inflicted, but when it wits considered how lane a number of pert one would ho doterred from becoming trustees, be thought that any one would come to the conclusion that this euactment would do more harm than good. There might be caws in which • per fectly hornet trustee or guardian might Innocently get into such a position an to throw on him at least the onus of proof that he wee not liable to &criminal charge and to a of seven yeses' penal servitude. What effect woul d p not this have on other permit& who became aware of it Y Would they not decline to undertake trusteeship when the Diet of their being unable to deal with • complicated trust would throw this responsibility and danger upon theca P He believed the number of cams which would come into court under this bill would be exceedingly 'man, for in tont ern the offending trustee was a relauve whom the family would be unwilling to indict. Re;jetuat K IRO LAKE was not mitiefied with the proposal to leave the question of intent to defraud to a jury. Cases hod been put on the ono side, but let him now put a cue. Suppose • man died leaving two or three hundred pounds, and appointing hie brother the trudge of his widow and family. The brother might put the money into his own business, honestly intending to allow the widow 8 or 10 per cent.—more, in feet, than he could invest the money for in any other way, But suppose the man's business failed, and the mosey was lost ; euppose a cue like that piing to a jury, and an appeal being made to their feelinga on tine one side or on the other, I week passible to imagine anything more unaatisfactory P It was agreed that it would be muds to allow prosecutions to be instituted at the mere motion of any disappointed party ; and so elaoss I I provided that the consent of one of the judges most be obtained previous to the commencement of proceed raga Bet that clause afforded no adequate Inoue don ; for how could a judge come to • correct decision upon name en parte affidavits P Beside., it was wrong to put the judges in so invidious • position as to call on them to decide in London that there was • prima fade we of fraud, when it might happen that the very mine judge that authorised the institution of proceedings might have to go down to try the charge. He (the learned ser *int) had reason to know that this we an objection which was felt by many of the judges themselves. Under thew eh minuances he begged to call the attention of the govern ment to an amendment, suggested by Mr. Carne which would entirely remove this difficulty. Let the proreLdings be in stituted only by the direction of • judge either in equity or in hankruptcy,under whose judicial notice:the case might have come. (Hew, hear.) Mr. BARROW Weed in the apprehensions which had been expressed lest this bill should deter persons from ac mpting the offire of trustee—a result which would do far more injury to widows and orphans than any piece of legisla tion which he remembered to bare seen. The bill not only involved the responsibility of the trustee himself, who might be able to avoid all irregularity, but it would actually in volve his exteutor. (Hear, hear.) The mere threat of a prosecution would deter many an honest man from consenting to became a trustee ; for, he agreed with the last speaker, that • person would run but a poor chance of • favourable constructionbeing put upon his received, if he happened to be opposed by so e loquent an decade of the widow and as the Attorney-General. (Hear, bear.) r. NAPIER said it would have been more straightfor ward to have rejected the bill tin the woad reading ; for the speeehee they had just heard west against its oinnciple, sad not against any of eta details. (Hear, hear.) He could not concur in the objeetione that were taken to juice being made the judge. of the fraudulent intention; fie juries habitually decided on questions of intent, where that intent formed the very essence of a capital charge. (Hear, hear.) The question visa, whether the word property in the chew should be used in its wide and extensive sense, or limited as his hon. and learned friend proposed P He thought the words „ with intent to defraud" were sufficient to carry out the principle that woe the foundation of the criminal law —V{Z., the latent ;" and the object being to apply that principk to a class of cares to which it did not now attend, he should gu r t A t .t e ltrO P .Nr i it ft giested that words ought to he Intro timed to prevent men rem being convicted for what a crater of equity might deride to be fraud, but only upon fraud being proved to the eatidaction of • jury. Sir 0. OREY obaerwed that thin clause did not refer to the point referred to by the hoe. member for t h e Tower Hamlets. Mr. W (ORA M observed that the clause ' as originally framed, was confined to the appropriation for r ho use of the appropriator of money that did not belong to hint; rind if that was the intention, it would matter little how wide the clause extended, but if it went further than that, and punished if the money was appropriated fur the benefit of others, he deriving no advantage, he doubted whether the proposed law would carry puffin. opinion along with it. he ArIORNEY-OENERAL replied that If a trustee innate-rod stock, of which he Was the trustee, to his eon, it would not be an appropriation to his own me, but It would nevertheless be a fraud which ought not to go unpunished. After a few weeds horn Mr. CAIRNS, Mr. 8. WARREN thought the words" with intent to de frsod" met every objection. He oupported the awe. Mr. HOLT teplied. What he contended wee that they should not confound criminal Owl vency with larceny. A division was called; but after woe hesitation, Mr. ROLT permitted the amendment to be negatived without pulsing the committee to divide. Mr. BLAKE, with the view, as he said, of making the clause more useful to Ireland, where unfortunately fraud, in the case of charities, was not unfrequent, moved to insert the weld "or for any public or charitable purpose." The ATTORNEY-GENERAL consented to introduce words to carry out the object of the hon. gentleman. The amendment wee agreed to, ss were the other emend meta suggested by the Attorney-General after a protest from Mr. Barrow , founded on an individual case which had come under his notice, and in which he conceived the provi fiol2l4 of the bill would have indicted hardship. To this ft wee replied by the Attorney-General that they were not legialating for individual oases. On the question that the claw should eland part of the bill, Mr. WALPOLE referred to the case of person, baam tng • trustees oonstructively, and not by direct appointment, and suggested the introduction of words in the interpretation clause exempting such persons from the operation of the bill. Mr. NEAT E said the bill wee an extension of the criminal law which did not meet the approval of the legal profession ly. He understood the judged were opposed to it ; and rweer: i pr ? posed by a gentleman who had been chiefly con cerned with civil law. The great objection to the bill wes, that it did not recognise the difference between truie of a public character and those of a private charscto t tr e .l e approved of it. application to the former. In the came of a bank or a railway company, confidence was placed in the directors, not from any knowlege of the private character of individuals., as efts the ow in private trusteeehips ; there fore in the former case it wea necomary that the law should interpose to protect the public Nor did the bill sufficiently recognise the distinctive between direct fiduciary transfers of property, end indirect sad residting transfers. He did sot deny the necessity of legislation, but thought it would be suffi cient to give equity judges the same juriediction over default !sal:ldea as the insolvent commissioners had over insolvent As regarded fraudulent treaders of stock, he thought it would be wise to compel the Bank of England to take notice of trusteeship, by entering such stock in a imp ede book, and allowing no sale without the concurrence of all the trustees. He would suggest to the Attorney-General that it would be better to confine the bill to pubhc trustee shill; clause was then agreed Is. On dame 2, Mr. HENLEY mid, If • man deposited 1,0001. in a bank, the banker would be at liberty to deal with it se he thought proper what, then, constituted the precise set of fraud P Su the account went on from year year, and at the end of ten years the beak broke, in that interval the banker must have applied the money over and over again to his own us. What, thee, oonstitated the precise fraud P The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said if he lent money to • banker only on the condition that it should be repaid when it was requited, there wan no fraud even if the banker was sot able to do so. If the money were deposited on the under standing that it should be applied i i t i adarticular way, sad this we. not done, that was • cane of . boom. Mr. HENLEY repeated Ids question as towhee th•fraud Mr. WARREN said the eaenee of the offence was defined by the words " with intent to defend." The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said if he took 1,000 aoureigne b • bank misled up In • bag, and geld, " keep that for me as it is," and the banker mitten7= took out the money, that we • hand. The princi ple was well understood in the City, where • petal of • was fie quently paid into • bank as deposition, se it was celled; but • angle bill paid in without any oonditica was su= • different treatment, and might be negotiated by the Is answer to a further question from Mr. Restot The ATTORNEY-GENERAL mid the hill would not interfere with any of the ordinary transactions of trade, nor with anything wrongfully done Weis it were with Indus animus. It would only apply to cues whore them we a deer Intention to defraud. (lieu.) Mr. AY ItTON wished to know how this bill would affect the old enactment of Geo. IV. relating to money entrusted to bankers with written instructions. It would be exceed ingly inconvenient to pass • new act, without reference to the one already in existence. The language of this clause was too large, and ho should certainly prefer the more precise and careful wording of the Bankers Act. Mr. NAPIER remarked that the case put by his right hon. Mend the member for Oxfordshire came within the law of debtor and creditor, end the money so deposited ceased to be the property of the depositor. The tranaution contem plated by the muss was one between bailor and a bailee. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said no comparison could be made between this clause and that of the Baker Act, bemuse the latter wan confined entirely to cases where the directions were given in writing, or to caw where the property had been specially entrusted. This bill, however, was much more general and amprr benaive than the 7th and ilth Geo. IV., and it wan intended to include a large clam of ellsweeetelt bad bare held not to tame within the meaning of tbe Bankers AM, by roman of its spacial and particular lemmas*. A great variety of eases occurred where it was absolutely itiopiesible to comply with the special requisiteaof the existing law. Mr. HEN LRY oboe wt that they were deMing with an exceptional con, but the clime was general, and be was afraid it would lake effect in the use of money paid into a banker's band. Acme the °punter. Mr. NA PI MK repeated that the moment tnor.r7 pawed in that way it ceased to be the property of the depositor. Mr. XIALI NS maid the thwitsclion between the tea, cases was obvious rwiugh. If 1,0001. were deposited, the pro perty pared to tho beaker, but the depwit of 1,0001. worth of Exchequer bill. would be a different cede. That weak' tome within the moaning of this clause but the first would not. CAIRNS &intended that tide wu too serious a ques tion to be left where it wan. Allowing that a 1,0001. deposit became a debt there would ho then the difficulty of the in terpretation clues which said the word "property „ should mean "debt.' After a few worth from Mr. GURNEY and Mr. GRIFFITH. Mr. J. 0 FITZGERALD rid, in reply to Mr. Client, that it wan impossible for a debtor to Coos set a debt. Mr. WALIVLE put this care—Suppose he paid 1,0004 to a banker acmes the counter, and the banker knew be ohould fail the next day ; suppufte the banker appropriated the 1,0001. the next day, would that come within the meaning of the clause! The ATTORNET•OENERAL thought it would not; there the ammo would nut he a fraudulent breach of trout, but a concenbeent of insolvency. After amen further conversation, The elause as amended was .card to. The chairman wes then ordered to report progress, sad the house resumed. SITES FOR WORKHOUSES BILL This bilip;;;:difubii CROWN, itr., S UITS (SCOTLAND) BILL. This Mil was read a second time. The Brinkruptey and Real Securities (Scotland) Bill and the Bill Chamber (Scotland) Bill was also read a second time. CHRISTCHURCH (WEST HARTLEPOOL) BILL. This bill was reed • served time. HANLEY BOROUGH INCORPORATION BILL. This bill was reed • third time arid wised. CONSOLIDATED FUND (8000,0000 BILL. This bill was read • third time and passed. SUPPLY. . . . _ The report of the committee of supply tree brought up V.Vl a g r g i Ct UPON OATH (HOUSE OP COMMONS) BILL. Mr. WARREN moveddomi the order for the mond reading be discharged. He would not tako PO important • bill at such a late hour, and as he was obliged l ea ve town he would not have another opportunity thin session. He would re-introduce it at the earliest possible period next The order nu then dienharfed. ELECT lON PI; II T IONSIOILL:2 On the order of the day for the second reading, The ATTORNEY-OkNERAL objected to proceeding at so late an hour. Mr. ADDERLEY expressed his astonishment and regret at the opposition of the hon. and learned gentleman. (Hear, hear.) The bill had been originally drawn by Mr. Riclaudit, and approved of by Lord Eversley. (Rear, hear.) Let the bon. and learned gentleman state the objections in the open day. It was Mr. Coppock who 'resat the bottom of the opposition. (Hear, hear.) A set of pettifogging attorneys got up a lot of diagraceful petitions containing slanders that they dare not utter against any other person than a member of that hones. There might be some difference em to the details of the bill, but there ought not to be any as to the principle; it did not attempt to check the right of petition, but merely sought to put an end to a scandal. Sir 0. Olt EY said the bill was a most important one, yet the hon. gentleman Raked them to adopt the principle at such an hour without a word of explanation. Mr. ADDERLEY said the principle of it was in secure the boss tides of election petitions , , next year the grievance would have passed away, and it would be difficult to get the bowie to take the matter up. The ATTOItNEY-OENEItAL wee not opposed to the object the bill desired to attain, but he WWI opposed to the very silty machinery by which that object wee proposed to be accomplished. The providous of the bill could be to easily evaded that they would become a mere laughing stock. The hon. gentleman had given no explanation of the details of the bill, and the best thing be could do for him would be to move that the debate should be adjourned. Mr. SPOONER. thought, raiimidering the high authority which had approved of the bill, it could scarcely deserve the epithet of silly. Sir O. GREY odd that the object of the bill was a very good one, but the principle was such al, he thought they ought not to accept without some explanation. The machinery appeared to be the administration of a number of oaths. After some further conversation, The second reading was postponed to Monday neat. PROBATES ANDLETTEAIS OF ADMINISTRATION (IRELAND) BILL. ~ •••• ~ • On the motion of the Arrowcr.r-Gescaac. for IRELAND, ' leave wan given to bring in a bill to emend the law relating to probates and letters of administistion In Ireland. GLEBE LANDS (IRELAND). On the motion of the AT ORNEY-Ci EN ERAL for ItieLAND, leave was given to bring in a hill to enaLlo ecclegastical per roma In Ireland to grant building leases of glebe lands in certain eases. I EAST QUAY WALL TAX (DUBLIN"). Mr. H. A. H►.asenr obtained leave to bring ins bill to abolish the rate known as the Ernst Quay Wall tax, in the city of Dublin, and make other provision in lieu thereof. The house then adjourned at a quarter past one. ELECTION C0MM127218. -•*- PONTEFRACT. Committee :-11r. Headlam (chairman), Lord H. Lennox, Mr. Francis Forteecue, Mr. It. B. !;bridge, and Sir J. M. Stewart. The 'dings . in thts election committee commenced Mr. Zwin James, Q.C., appeared fur the petitioner, Mr. Oliveira, the late r ember for the borough, and in opening the case stated the petition charged bribery, undue influence, and treating. It also alleged that the oonetitueney was the most corrupt in the kingdom. He would prove that Mr. Wood, the sitting member, gave voters drink, and was pre sent when they signed a requisition to him to stand for the borough. There was a petition from • few of the electors against Mr. Oliveira, winch had been sent in for the par pobe of intimidating that gentleman. Mr. Oliveira would, however, prove that there was not the slightest pretence for that petition. -- The writ OSlreturn baying been produced, Mr. Oliveira, the petitioner, was called, and examined by Mr. James.—He stated that ho was member for the borough from 18.52 to 1857. Knew Mr. Clough and Mr. Wood, and saw those two gentlemen in 1852 in reference to his election. He went to use them, and he paid them both through Mrs. Oliveira, his We, 1,3004 on the day of polling, on 16th of July in 1&52. On the 7th he woo elected. There woo 1000. given on the 17th of May, and 1,3004 on the day of poll -8001. was paid on the 12th of July by him to Morn. Boroughs and Son, at Houndaditch, at the desire of Mr. Clough. The next p Telma was made on the 29th of Sept. to Mews. Wood and Clough conjointly; it woo 4001. That made 2,5001. 1001. was paid to Mr. Wood to be applied to cer tain charities on the 29th of December, end in May, 1853, ho paid 3001. to Mr. Wood. The next payment was in February, ' 1864, end was 1001. When he first saw those two gentle men they informed him that 2,6001. would ensure the seat. He said that he bed no objection to pay that sum. Was told that Mr. Lewis, the conservative candidate, was paying large *nu for voters at the election of 1832, and Mr. Rood tad him (Mr. Oliveira) he should advance more money. His answer was that he most win, and he did win. At the close of the poll he new Mr. Wood, who was in bed at the hotel, at four o clock in the day, having been exhausted by his exertions, and gave him a blank cheque, which wee returned to him a ft erward*, when be paid the 820 11 a London. Parliament met on the 11th of November, and a petition against his return was presented by Mr. Lewis. Knew Alderman ltoutledge, who was mayor at the time *the petition. Mr. Wood came to London, and intimated his anxiety about the petition, and said he thought it might be withdrawn on the payment of 1,0004 He refused. Afterwards Mr. Moan and Mr. Routledsa came to him at the house and suggested 2,0001. ne the s pace of the with drawal of the petition. At first he rejected the offer, but eventually he gave • &aqua through Mrs. Oliveira for the sum of 2,2034, but the 2001 . want subsequently returned to him as not being necessary. The petition was then with drawn. A claim of ~1,000/., in addition to this 2,0004, sae mode, and paid through Mr. Wood, and he paid another sum of 1,2.501. to Mr. Jefferson, the then mayor, who wrote to him to say that his name was suffering in consequence of hie not paying this money. He paid altogether on account of that election 6,2001. Having paid that sum, it was stated by Mr. Moron and Mr Routledge that there should be nt contest in future for the borough. He woo informed that 1,2601. of the money he had paid wee to be given to Mr. Lewis, the unsureessful candidate. He went to Pontefract about a week before the dissolution. Produced a circular with the name of Mr. Wood, aching for subwriptions in aid of the Factory Reform Association, and was salted to sub scribe 1,0001., which he refused. Mr. Wood refused to act for him at the last election, and he was obliged to send to Leeds for a profeasional agent, as all the gentlemen imme diately connected with the borough were engaged. Mr Ferns acted as his agent. Crooke:monied by Mr. Temple, Q.C.—He denied that an bnhery had been committed by him. In reply to Lord H. Lennox, the witness said that there was no stipulation ae to a contest. Mrs. Oliveira was then celled by Mr. James. She said I have taken considerable interest in my husband's repre sentation of I'entetrect, and saw Mr. Clough, the attorney, at my house in London, when he told me that the seat would require a very large sum, but he would *lure it on our giving the money. The substance of what passed less, thatlir. Oliveira was certain of being returned if he would pay 3,0001. or 4,000'., and I told him I thought the sum • large one. He said, "You must win, and you shell win." I agreed that such • cum should be paid, and it was arranged that Mr. Oliveira should go down, and be did. During the election I paid Clough 1,3001. ; and be said it would be a very expensive affair if we wanted • majority of 60, but it would be lass if we were content with one of 25. Mr. Wood went to her after the election, and was in tears. He received • blank cheque, which was returned, end 6001, was paid to • ' confectioner, of Houndeditch, a relative of his wife. I era up Drat day. I member the petition of Mr. Lewis. Then ems a cheque for 2,0001. drawn, whi7h 1 paid In notes to Mr. Rout ledge, the then mover, at the instigation of M r . W ee d and Mr. Clough. In December a letter was written Ly Mr. Routledge, stating that the petition spinet Mr. &filar must be withdrawn. The petition was presented spans Mr. Whim became I felt that he was not tweeting us kindly. I met Mr. Moon end Mr. Routledge at the iltrinnume Hotel, Covent.pirden. I bad NMI Mr. Wood, who wanted rue to pay 1,0004 towards the withdrawal of the petition. When 1 met thate gingen - rn they maid that they would guarantee that the next return should cost me less if Mr. Oliveira would save the borough. Thu money was paid in four 5001. notes. They said that they would support my busload at the n e xt election. I have seen Mr. Clough and Mr. Wood wince, and they said that Mr Oliveira was the eavieur of the borough. 1 have paid 4001. rime I went to Pontefract the Lot day but one before the election. and found a change at witch 1 wee iotrpriatd. I rolled upon Mr. linutledgo for so explanation of hi. conduct, but he fIP. lowed to see me. lat last saw hint in the Town Hall and I said to hint, " For shame of you," and he went away. I think he voted for Manes and Wool. I went to Clough and said, '• Vote for my husband, you have had several good reasons." Ile said he should do everything against him, and I said, "More shame for you." I went to Mr. Wood, who said Is was offended with a letter my buebend had written to Mr. Jeffereon; that letter was inquiring into the particulars of a claim of 1,7001. after the 3.0001. was paid. 1 alluded 'cry often to the fact that Mr. Oliveira had always paid the de mands upon hint. Crtwoexamitted by Mr. Temple, Q.C.-1 was induced to pnwent that petition against Mr. Milne.. Mr. Itoutledge, the Mayor of Pontefract in 1832, and Mr. Robinson, the manager of the Yorkshire Banking Company, were afterward. severally examined. The committee adjourned until to-day. MAYO. The committee assembled yeeterdey, at eleven o'clock; Mr. Scliolefield in the chair. The other member. were aloe present—Coloael North, Mr. Tom line, Sir Jolla lianmer, and Mr. Puller. Preedergaat, of Ballinrobe. a retired solicitor, woo the drat witnessesamined—On the Sunday before the poll, at Ballinrobe, them was • considerable mob. who attacked Col. Ili .e voters. It was heeded by the Rev. Peter Conway, and the mob acted under hie direction. He spoke in Irish : " May the curse of Hod and the rune of the flock WI upon any one who vote. for Higgins." (The witness gave the ips•athea mire in Irish, which created great amusement.) This language wee repeated several limes with great solem nity, and had • great effect upon the people. Conway ' e re mark. were uttered decidedly in the way of denunciation, with a view of awing Roman catholic voters, and oertainly had that effect. Ballinrohe was in a state of ferment dur ing the whole time he was there. lie never save a more infuriated mob, all the violence being on the part of Mr. MoorWs supporters. No voter in favour of Colonel Higgins could have gone out in safety without an escort. He saw Conway subeequently on horseback in the centre of the town, when he append to have the control of the mob. Conway was the curate of Ballinrobe, but Mr. Hardinum, the pedal priest, took no part in the rime. Conway quickly die• appeared after his denunciation becatuie Mr. Bileke's rot drew a pistol, and said that if any more violence were shown he would use it. There wan a third candidate in the field, Captain Palmer, but there was no violet ce manifested by-any. 4 his M en d s._ _ _ _ _ 'lefr7Joreph Burke, son of Mr. Isidore Burke, a magistrate of Mayo, said he collected his father's tenant' who were to vote for Colonel Higgins, and accompanied them to Bailin robe. Three men mixed his bone and endeavourod to pull him off into a yard belonging to Mr. Moore's party. One of the dragoons drew his sword and made a slash at the fellow, who than lit go. He saw Peter Conway, the priest, kneeling on the wall. H. spoke to the men, end a moment afterward' Colonel voters were smailed with moon. Witrin drew a plaid from his bag and presented it at the priest, who had a atom in kin hand, saying, " By Ood, the first man that throws a stone I'll blow his brains out." Hill reverence then disappeared from the wall. (Laughter.) The mob Wea moot angry, and most of the men carried stick.. He YAW Conway again in the Kilmaine booth, where he shook hie fog in a voter• face elope by hie nose. Mr. James French, rdTuarn, said he wait a landed pmprie tor in Mayo county, and a Homan catholic. Ile was at Bel linrobe on the Sunday, and heard Mr. Conway at the chapel. Mr. Conway remarked that Colonel Higginv was a coneum mate scoundrel ; that every promise which he had made ha had broken; that he had sold his country, his body, and his soul, and that he had now the presumption to ask fur their support, but they might believe him that the curse of God would rest upon every man who voted for him. Mr. Con way added that every one had a perfect legal right to hoot and shout at every one who supported Colonel Higgins, brat they must take are not to molest the soldiers or the polies. His manner and gesture were quite unworthy of a clergy man. Later in the day he saw Mr. Conway haranguing a mob In the town, and then the excitement began. Mr. W. F. O'Connor, chief of the polies at Ballinrobn. remembered the day prior to the pulling. The people wen more excited than be had ever previously seen. At one time he was obliged to order the police tinder his direction to In bayonet, lie did not see Mr. Burke point a pistol at Con way while be was on the wall. He heard Conway speak la the mob, but was not near enough to hear what he said. Air. Burke, of Ower, a barrister, said that on the Sunday prior to the poll he was accompanying his father, aged seventy-six, to Ballinrobe. On nearing the town they mot an excited meb of 300 or 400 people, most of them half drunk, the most dangerous state an Irishman could be in. (Laughter.) Peter Conway was with them. The mob stopped them, and Conway rode up and said, Oh. You are Colonel Higgiroes supporter., and I wash my handl out of you." It was said for the mob to hear. He then rod* of about one hundred yards, and two men came and pulled vitness off the car. The mob seined his par on all aides. They dragged him about one hundred yar ds in the same direction in which Peter Conway had ridden off. One of tho men was exceedingly violent. Conway was near enough to see everything that was going on, as he was issuingerders to the mob. Witness said to Conway, "It 4 a shame, at m father. age, to be tre a t e d i n this way in your presence, and you not to prevent it." He said, I can't help it." H • then rods back to where Lie father was. While he ins struggling with the men who held him he also saw his father struggling with other men. The old man was se verely beaten on his back, face, and cheat. Some time after this Conway took his father out of the hands of the mob, and put him in his car. Witness wished Conway to allow hit and his father to go home, but Conway mid be would detain them, so as not to allow them to vote for Col. Higgins. Father Conway pulled a hat of voter. out of his pocket, and Mr. Burke, Mn., said he would not vote for Higgins if Conway would let him go home alive. Conway having extorted this promise, said to the mob, " We will let Mr. Bake go hormy. boys, as he has promised not to vote for Higgins at this election." The committee then adjourned to eleven o'clock (this day). - - - - - - CAMBRIDGE. The committee mat yesterday at eleven o'clock, when some further evidence was given with respect to the employ ment of messengers and the payment of travelling expenses, but the proceedings were almost entirely devoid of public in terest. After considerable discussion among the learned counsel upon the point being left to the committee, they de cided that the allegation of corrupt practices in the employ ment of messengers was not proved. With respect to the payment of voters' travelling expenses, the Chairman said that as this was the first case since the passing of the Corrupt Practices at Elections Act, the committee would draw up a special report upon the subject. It was then arranged that a scrutiny should take place, to commence to day at eleven o'clock. MARLBOROUGH. The parliamentary committee againet the return of Mr. H. B. Baring met yesterday ; Mr. K. Beyrner, chairman. The committee were composed of the following members Lott R. Cecil, Mr. Collier, Mr. Malin", and Mr. Dundee. Mr. Edward James appeared to support the petition. The pro oeedings were not of great public interest. The question n icked itself into one of qualification, and the committee adjourned till this day without having settled it. WA R EH AM. This committee met in Room No. 18, Mr. J. Manes Qua. kelt hi the choir. Mr. Edwin James, Q.C., Mr Thine, Q.C.,_and Mr. Weleby, appeared for the sitting member; and Mr. Montague Smith and M r . Clarke appeared for the petitioner*. The evidence was purely of a localvharacter, as to boundaries of certain property giving a quablimtion to • voter. The evidence in this use was not concluded at four o'clock. The committee adjourned until this day. , • ItOaHDALE. The committee met at 12 o'clock in Room No. 8 Sir J. Verde Buller in the chair. The ev id ence wee proceeded with in respect to the allegationa in the petition of bribery by the agents of the sitting member. The committee then laboured until to-day. APOTHECARIES' liALL.—The following are the names of gmtlemen who passed their examination In the science and practice of medicine, and received certificate., to practise, on Thursday, June 25 :— Arthur D'Oyley B roo b a , Henley-on-Thames, Oxon; Richard Henry Hayes, Langton, Staffordshire; Edward Wm. Humphrey Pitch er Arundel terrace, Islington; Robert Tait, Coldstream, N.B. ; George Predeviek Ay 'lmg, Great Portlend-street (as an assistant). ROYAL COLLEGE OF PHYSICIAN/S.—At the =Rd y meeting of the Comitia Hegira, held on Thursday, ratt l s, the following gentlemen having passed the near eery examination., fur the diploma, were admitted members of the college:—Dr. Stallard, Leicester; Dr. Mania, Grs Ormond. street; Dr. Meyer, London,. Dr. Cecil Ha s Albemarle-street, and Hr. Moon, Brighton. Al s o t V. Alcor*, Evesham, and Dr. Lancaster, Clifton, were admitted as extra hermits*. At the same Comitia, Dr. Juaffreson, Finsbury-equare ; Dr. Pitman, Montague-place; Dr. Berne Jones, Brook-street, and Dr. Riaden Bennett, Finsbury square, were eiected censors for the ensuing year. And Dr. Lister, Madeira; Dr. Chowne Connaught-place West ; Dr. Caps, Corson -street; Dr. Roxburgh, Gloucester-place; Dr. Child, Devonshire-terrace, Hyde-park; Dr. Oldham, Fine bury-square ; Dr. Burslem, Bournemouth ; Dr. Stuart Babington, Hertford-street, May-fair; Dr. Symonds, Clifton; and Dr. Evans, Birmingham, were chosen fellows al the college. SUlClDE.—Yesterday morning, between the boars of 12 and 1 o'clock, a man about 40 years of age, whom name is at present unknown, got over the parapet of South wark-bridge, and jumped into the centre of the river. La alarm wae immediately raised, when the boats and drags of the Royal Humane Society were put into requisition, bet after considerable exertion were unable to find Um body. The deceased is described to have limn about five fest sera inches., and dressed in dark clothes. , i I