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DI PERIAL PARLIAMENT. N Intothe Method= ent thie MIL in eider that they might , : ore whether the statement Vidal had been made swum* i titled ; and this was one of the points to wSich he was I anxious to direct the amities of the right hon. gentleman, . to tote sent the poesibdity of any such abuses for the, future. , (Hear, hear.) There was another point to which he would desire to draw the right hem. gentle:mates attention— the management and control of cathedral eetabliehments. After speaking of the evasions—neglect of the bishops its e.implying %Ali the cathedral foundat i on statutes, tlipt ci.illy that of visitation—the great inequality of duty and income between the cantos and mit's canoes—nut:owing :..erti , ul..i!y Rochester, and iir.rins the value at annual rib. lication sal accounta—sir le Hall declared that toe time had come when a full inquiry into the temporalities of the church, and • reform of all these ecclesiastical bodies, could no longer be safely delayed. Mr. HOUSMAN fully concurred that after what had been stated it would be unadvisable to cuter upon any lengthened discussion on this question. Ile was quite surd that if the right hon. gentleman boa not expressed himself so fully on the subject as some might desire, it was because ho was anxious not to raise expect ations which he might find it difficult, if not im possible, to realise. At the same time while t..ey had the question of the second nailing of so important a bill before them—and he fully admitted that the noble lord had acted very judiciously in not messing it—he could not sec why the house should out enter into so much discus siou as would enable the goverment to know what the views of bon. members were, and the nature of the re forms expected. (Hear, hear.) It was impossible to de lay the consideration of the question. The ecclesiastical system of this country was approaching a crisis to which it would be dangerous to shut their eyes, and if they endea voured to pas. over the subject without discussion and without the legislation which ought to follow, they were only avoiding • difficulty, shirking • danger, and post pingiois a duty. Unle-ii they took upon themselves fully and fairly to reform all those abuses which were now permitted to embarrass and impair the establishment, they would find the time for that :reform might soon pass away altogether. If reform was necessary in the church, it was wanted in the episcopate more than anywhere else, and certainly ought to be carried out before its mem bers were added to. It was not thought wise or judicious to increase the present bishops by a .ding another else.. who should he called working bishops, and who would not have seats in the HOW, of Lords, because that would create invidious cempaiisons. The government had undertaken the matter. They would find there was • rock ahead. The difficulty to be dealt with was the position of the episcopal bench. That woo the real difficulty, and they must not shut their eyes to it. They must either leave the bench in its present position, or they must undertake an cc elesisoeical reform, in spite of those in whose hands all eccle siastical retorm had hitherto been left. All ether public es tablishments had been reformed and reorganised in de ference to public opinion and the spirit of the sec. Ec clesiastical reform had alone been impossible. Ecclesias tical law was at this moment in a state of the greatest confusion and mismanagement, because the legislation of the church was left in the hands of the bishops, who were unwilling themselves to undertake any efficient or practical reform, and resisted those proposed by others. Ile gave his right hon. friend (Mr. W alpole) credit for applying himself scii ously to this subject. Ile knew that the right hon. gen tleman felt the state of the church to he most unsatisfac tory, but at the same time, without distrusting any go ys raiment, he could not shut his eyes to the fay, that every government found itself opposed by the episcopate, which, by its influence and political power, had compelled govern ment after government to give way to it, by postponing or i dropping every measure fur inquiry or reform. They had done this so long that the whole ecclesiastical system was in such • state that the best friends of the church believed that no cabinet would he able to effect an ecclesiastical reform. (Oh, oh.) It was no use attempting to avoid discussion on this subject, and he was certain they were only discharging a duty, when abuses were admitted, in suggesting remedies and seeking to apply them with effect. The house generally was of opiuion that a very large reform was necessary. In the other house there was hardly a difference of opinion. There was not a single class in the country, except the bishops of the'estahlished church, who were uppoted to this reform ; and, once fur all, the house must make up their minds, the people must make up their minds, and the government must make up their minds, that, if there was to be a reform in the ecclesiastical law, it must be had in spite of the bishops. (Cheers.) Mr. OSWALD said that many hon. members seemed to think that the house was a lay synod for the purpose of reforming the church, but no reform in the church of England would ever prove beneficial to the country which was not promoted principally by the church itself. Mr. S. HERBERT did not rise to prolong the discussion, but merely wished to say that be thought the noble lord (the Marquis of Blandford) would act wisely frankly to wept the proposal of the government, and he must add that from the conciliatory tone and moderation of the views of the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Walpole), there was no man in whose hands lie would more willingly trust the ' question for adjudication. (Hear.) But it was obvious that great difficulties beset it. In matters of church reform his hon. friend probably went • great length beyond those of many lion. gentlemen who sat around him. But he knew how very difficult the matter was to deal with, and thought that the house would have to exercise great for bearance with reference to it, and the difficulties with which the government had to cope were so great that only those pinta could he properly settled which were universally as sented to. No enema° views could obtain sureties. The bill before the house contained three points . first, en ex tension of the episcopate ; secondly, • diminution of the number of chapters and deaneries ; and, thirdly, the res toration to them of the duties which they were originally in tended to perform. With regard to the first of these points, an increase in the episcopate, too high as estimate was taken. (Hear, hear.) Ile did not think so large an increase was really necessary. Ile saw the difficulty shire was in the way of any increase. With regard to the abolition of the deaneries, he should like to hear that question fully argued before he permitted himself an opinion upon it. Of this he was perfectly cer taio, that it would not be wise to diminish the number of the chapters. Instead of the noble lord pro paing to diminish the number of canneries by this bill, he 'hood, have introduced a clause that no canonry which might become vacant, should be filled up without • proper seise being eidepted of the duties of teaching and train which that semen would have to perform. (Hear, hear.) Mt also hoped the mse provision Li the bill of the noble had would mg gimp the attention of the government; it INS that while alpind that the bishop should reside in IP chapter city. At mum the bishops were so unfrequently thus that it esseillaiill a kind of absenteeism, and that Meg eiegyies. bibs beetaime to transact with him, wear pa IDIOM MINNS he leavening to his residence. Colgha s. 11111.) is km elf a meated to an observation made aa thambaklheit the ease of the We sh bishops =osan as shed* slain preferment who was not ae mwith the leageage of the country. (Hear, hear.) teas a sine pa nme. When this proposal was made MY time age It WY romated by • former Lord Chancellor as SMISSURISISIdIab Interference with his rights of patronage. The gm be arei apposition was past now. (Hear, hear.) SID was glad of the government having proposed to take ap the subject, god sincerely hoped the noble lord would anent to the istopetion to withdraw the bill. (Hear, hew.) The Marquis of BLANDFORD said he woo ready to yield to the general opinion of the house, and to the pro posal of her Majesty's government. He wished, however, to notice one or two points touched upon by Mr. Walpole. Ile concurred in his suggestion for the abolition of the dc canal office or its absorption into that of the bishop. With respect to chapters, he had not proposed their abolition, but that they should be constituted in their essence of members who had benefices. In re lation to another point, the increase of the episco pate, he was sure that in order to maintain the constitution of the church as transmitted from our ancestors, its episeo psi character must be kept up, and therefore in proportion to its extension the number of bishops must be increased. The difficulty in regard to seats in the other house might be overcome by providing, instead of the rotatory scheme, that a eartaia number of bishops should be elected in every par liament. Ile asked leave to withdraw the bill, reserving to \ism If the right to revive the question if necessary. Sir R. INOLIS asked the right hon. Secretary of State he the Home department whether the committee at the Privy Council on education were prepared to admit any relaxation of the management clauses. Mr. WALPOLE stated in reply that the committee of the Privy Council on education bad proposed a minute ad mitting Use relaxation of the management clauses in ono respect, which be thought was a very important one. The copy of that minute should be laid on the table of the house as soon as it had been settled. Sir R. INOLIS said that it had been settled. goosE of COMMON3.—W►DYESDAT, JUNE 9. The SPE.% ant took thr chair at 12 o'clock. I'It►VATB BUSINESS. HSU. ♦ TIMID Taxi AND PAIS111).--CuffTiN, Marhyrilleth, end Ricer Dow? Railway, with Branches ; Tee. C r•rrr.uee; ; Wirksworth Mining Customs and Mi stral Courts Bills. PUBLIC PAWNERS. PETITION PRESENTED. NVeLLAIASTICAL Rev ariums.—liy Mr. HODGSON from two ioeumlw•nts of a parish in Cumberland, in favour of such ea alteration in the arrangement of the revenues of the eletreb u shall enable the incomes of the working clergy to be inereemd. THE FLORIN. la answer to a question from Mr. THORNELY Mr. G. A. IliostsfON *Wed that the first leave o(the &win would Stake plree the week after uezt. IPISCOPAL AND CArl rr LAD REVENUES DILL. The Merquis of BLANDFOHD having moved the se- , scud reading of this bill, Mr. W ALPOLE aid: With reference to this bill I think the state of the session will sot allow us to go Ow with a discussion so large, even if there were not pare Of the measure to which I have Serious objections. (Ileac, tame) But, independent of this circumstance, I have had, since the bill was introduced. an opportunity of consulting the head. of the government and conferring with the highest authentic. and these who take an interest in these &objects. sod I am now prepared to state that her Majesty's government are willing to undertake the consideration of the subject with reference b. capitular revenues and capi- War Nati., and to deal with them so as to make them more extensively and more practically useful than they are at present. and alas with the view of extending spiritual instruction and education which might bu advan tageously carried on by these bodies, and of putting them generally on a more satisfactory footing than they now are. (blear, hese.) That beim: the case, Ido not know ' whether the noble lord would wish to go on with the bill ; but what I would merest is, that he should move to dis charge the order of the duty, leaving to the government the *onside ration of this question, which they era willing to un dertake. (Hear, hear.) if the noble lord will assent to this suggestion, without stating my objections to parts of the bill. I should certainly preter it. (Hear, hear.) The Marquis of lILANIWORD had expected her Ma jeety's governm rat would hare some declonition to make on the outwit. cud his object being to obtain a declaration of opinion from them as to the necessity of some such measure, be was quire prepared to adopt his right hon. friend's sug ration. tllear, hear.) Mr. 1101iSMAN -How about the 37th clause—that re lating to the management of the property ? Mr, WALPOLE—I do not think the house should call On the government to pledge themselves to any details till they have had an opportunity of fully considering th • ash }set. and I h p.• the house will not, seeing that I have given • distinct undertaking that we are ladling and anxious to take up the subject, and give it our fullest consideration, grem further discussion. Mr. SLANET hoped the house would accept the offer al the right hen. gentleman, end trusted that, from the mmaideration they had promised to give to this subject, a Measure which would be s distillery to all ponies would result, and that the funds of the established church would be mode more wee-WI for the purposes for which they were intend,,l in carrjo:4 out the Barrel objects of that church, and providing for toe spiritual welfare of the great body of the poorer classes of this country. Olean hear.) Sr Ii ItItIDOES thought the statement of the right hen. gentleman the Home Secretary d:d not go so far as the bon. gentleman seemed to infer ; at all events, it was de sirable that the house should know how far government in tended to carry out the views of the noble lord. Mr. WALPOLE—I know sot whether I am strictly in erase, bat, perhaps after the remark of the how. gentleman, I may be permitted to say a few words. Now, the view I take of this bill is this : I consider it involves four creedal palate of detail. First, the abolition of deaneries and the kmattlolstion of the office of dean with the office of bishop ; second, by a further reduction of the number of canonries ; third, by the MCA.' to be acquired by those alterations, to add to the eptieopate of the country; and, fourth, to make provision fur the better management of the capituler and episcopal revenues. Now, with regard to the hest—the abolition of &stories, I see no reason—and, on looking at the hill of the node lord, a. it is, the hon. gerientan will, I think, see that it would be impassible to consolidate those two offices with advantage. We ought to keep the dean at the head of the chapter, and as to the suppression or reduction in the number of CAIIOIIfIC9, think you would hod it estreniely doubtful whether, with a view of keeping up your cathedral institutions in efficient force, you eon further reduce the present number. But we ought not to forget that through the instrumentality of re gent "eta you have suppriised all sinecures—you have sus roiled 300 prebendaries and canonries, and applied some 78,000/. a year, acquired from these sources ' to the rug. naeatatien of poor livings—(hear, hear)—en d if ba these means, oe by other means, ion can obtain a furthef food Iler the purposes the noble lord has in view—if you can this acquire the means of increasing the number of the episcopacy of the country, 1 admit it would be eery de sirable., aiming that that episcopacy now is, It point of ambers, exactly where it we. at the Reformation —(hmer. bur)—notwithstanding that the number of the denim had inereased—ntowithstanding that the pnnrtaties bad quadrupled, and the duties to be discharged by the bishops in parliament and in their dioceses had doubled and trebled in amount since that period. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the management of the capitulu end • pis weal prop. rty, I think there are two principles which we should k= cap .n view in considering that part of the ques tion The one to relieve those high officers of the church as much as possible Irons the VIM and troubles of all worldly and temporal affairs—(loud cheers)—but at the ettroe Win to preserve that property in such connexion with them u not to leave them in the position of mere depen dents and stipendiaries of the state. (Hear, hear.) He bad briefly touched on these which he considered the four essential points of the bill. The spirit is which the go vernment propose to look at the question is, whether them cathedrals might not be instead men fully to the h*h and lofty purposes for which they were endowed es tens** for the worship of that Almighty Beteg for whose honour sad whose writes they were raised, se lasts of Weaning for Marard persons in the church to resort to, and as esentils to assist the bishops on various spiritual matter' relating to their dioceses, and as connect- Znskules between the higher and the lower of the church, to keep the whole body of the church fa hammy together. This is the spirit is which the go vernment are desirous of undertaking the consideration of this question. (hear, hear.) I purposely avoid going into details—lest, because I do not ciesidler we have before WI that information which would *sable us to discuss the question, and secondly, because I am anxious to avoid pre indepair it by rash et premature opinions, which any be considered as binding apes are, but which hereafter we may End it extremely .cult to wry out. (Hear, bear.) Viscount EBRINOTON was desirous of expressing his thanks to his noble friend fee the pains and attention belted bestowed on the subject, and the very valuable suggestions contained in his measure; and he was glad to hear that the government were about to take up the question. Sir It. INULIS concurred in what appeared to be the general feeling, that it was not expedient, after the dukes tioa of his noble friend that he intended to comp! with the suggestion of the right hon. gentleman the Ham to continue the discussion upon the bill before the helm. While expensing his thanks to the right hoseurable gentleman fur the general view he had stated on the subject, there were two or three expressions which fell trout his right hon. friend, from which, by the cheers with which they were received by some hoe. gentle men, he thought more was understood than was meant. He refereed to those passages of his right hon. friend's speech in which be talked of relieving the bishops from worldly or temporal cares. (Hear, hear.) Ile was sure hie right hon. friend did not mama to apply those observa tions—though he believed they had in some quarters been so understood—so mu; to convey an intention of upending in any way the church from the state by removing the bishops from the Howie of Lords—(hear, hear)—and he rose to ex his conviction that such was not his right hon. ft r i f el's intention, though it might have been so inter preted. -whether for good or for evil he would not say— by thne who were the advocates of such separation. (Cheers.) Had it been the desire of the house to enter upon the discussion of the bill, he should have felt it hie duty to enter further into the subject, hut as it was not, he would not say how far he disagreed with many portions of the bill, nor seven how far he was compelled to differ on some points with his vieht hon. friend. (Hear, hear.) Lord R. GROSVENOR was glad the government had taken up the subject, knowing how impossible it was for any private member of the house to carry through such a bill to a successful isaue. Mr. J WILLIAMS stated that the clergy of Wake were Fateful to the noble lord fur bringing forward the subject. He hoped that in the government measure Dome provision would be introduced for entreating the institution toWelsh benefices of clergymen who do not understand the Welsh language, and he implored ministers in the event of any vacancy occurring to a Welsh see, no ono would be ap pointed to it who did not understand that language. Sir B. hiAl.l. joined in thanking his noble friend for bringing forward this question, and he hoped that neat session 'itch a bill would be brought in under the auspices of the government as should place the whole temporalities of the church on such a satisfactory footing, that, at all events, as far as he was coneerned, his mouth may be stopped for the future. He wished to see ecclesiastical estates al together taken out of the hands of those episcopal and capitular bodies, and unless parliament provided for the management of all ecclesiastical property by means of a coromimi in—paying those who performed episcopal func tions fixed salaries instead of as at present—the same com plaints of mismanagement and abuse as we now had, would continue to be made. (Hear, hear) Ile wished to call attention to one fact in connexion with this point, and he did so with the view that some remedy might be devised and applied. The house was aware that in liele an act was passed for the pitman of settling the incomes of the bishops—axing them at a ter tate amount. Lest year, it had been his duty to bring under the notice of the house several nem showing how that act bad been evaded. and he mentioned, is particular, the case of a bishop who hail received no lees than 79,0001. over and above the intone assigned to his see, up to the end of the yew Ifirio, sad who up In the present time could scarcely have received less than 100,0001 beyond the income issigned to him under that met. And this, too, was one of the bishops of what was called the new foundation—that was tho e bishops whose appointments dated since the year 18.36. (Hear, hear.) There was at this moment an order on the barks of the keno foe • neon of those inumen which ks had boon Wire. to have before they wee eWed upon to If they were all to be determined in such a short time was it not a nesekery to pass Such a measure • and it would be , . better at once to disfranchise so many vases, than do it, as it was gummed was intended, by a side wind in the shape of this bill. Tlw noble lord must see that his own bill would not produce the benefit he desired. The only re medy he peopoeed was the extension of the hours of polling from 4to o'clock. Now the result of that would be that frequently there must be two hours' polling in the dark— (hear)—which would give great facilities for election riots. After some further observations against the bill the hen. I member concluded by saying that he could only consent to 1 the bill, if it gave these whom it prevented from voting in all the places they had the franchise, the power of votiug by proxy. (. fleas," and a laugh.) Mr. H. HAILLIE said that the county he represented was placed in peculiar circumstances, and the electors ' would be prejudiced by the operation of this bill. lie trusted he might be allowed to state those circumstances. Lord It. UIIOSVIfNOII.—Tbe bill does not apply to Scotland. (Laughter.) Mr. BAILLIE.—It the bill did not apply to Scotland he had nothing to say. Mr. ALCOCK agreed with the hon. member for Leices tershire that it would be indiscreet to sanction the exten sion of the hours of polling from 4 to 6; hut that was a matter for consideration in committee. lie agreed with his noble friend in wishing the pulling at county elections to be confined to one day. Mr. WALPOLE, on the part of the government, wished to say that they thought this a question which rather con cerned the county members than the government, and he was about to omen' only his individual opinion with regard to it. After the second reading of the bill had been assented to by the house, he was not prepared individually to oppose its going into committee ; but be wished to warn the noble lord, as be had done on a former occasion, of the difficulties he would have to encounter in committee, in taking care that the bill should be workable for the purposes of the ensuing election. By the first act which regulated elec tions after the passing of the Reform Bill, the 2nd and 3rd Wm. IV., c. 64, the polling-places in counties were fixed. This was found inconvenient, because it was often dean able to alter, to increase, or diminish the number of poll ing-places ; and by a subsequent act, 3 & 4 Wm. IV., cap. 102, power was given to the magistrates at quarter sessions to make alterations. But the power was carefully guarded. In the first place, a requisition was to be made to the ma gistrates by at least ten voters and a month's notice sves to be given of the intention to apply to the magistrates, which was to be lodged with the clerk of the peace, and besides notice was to be given in a newspaper circulating in the county ten days before the time at which the deci sion of the magistrates was to be given; and alter that a memorial was to be sent to the Queen in Council, who would give permission ler the alteration to be made. The first application must be made to the Court of Quarter Sessions. It was now the month of June, and no quarter session would be held in time to go through the required formalities before the dissolution of parliament. The noble lord, by a notice of amendment he had given, seemed to have considered that point, for he wished to " enable the sheriff to make such provisions in the polling-booths that not more than 300 electors should poll at the wore compartment, instead of 4.50, u is the rule at present." The noble lord contemplated the difficulty, for by that amendment he proposed to put the whole matter in the power of the sheriffs, as regards either the alteration of diminishing the number of polling-booths; or if it was not doing that, at least there was no other provision for the placing the polling districts in the most convenient places for the voters, except by giving that power to the — Lord It. OROSVENOR—Not the polling " districts." Mr. WALI'OLE meant the " polling places." At any rate the effect would be to put the voters to inconvenience, and bring them up in crowds to places to which they would not otherwise have come. He should withhold his opinion as to what should be done with the bill in committee until he was satisfied that the proposed arrangement would be advantageous to counties. Lord R. GROSVENOR mid that, as he had before stated, he should have made sums observations explanatory of the alterations he proposed to make in committee ; but the motion which had been made was directed agniust the principle of the bill. The motion for going into committee was supported by Mr. B. Denison, Mr. W. Brown, and Mr. L. King, and op posed by Mr. Henley, Mr. Fellowes, Mr. Dudes, and Colo. nel Sibthorp. The ATTORNEY-OENERAL was not satisfied that there was a pressing necessity for such a measure at this moment. Ile admitted that it was very desirable to limit the poll in counties, as in boroughs, to a single day; and if a proper machinery could be provided for this alteration in time for the next election, be should not oppose the motion; but apprehending a very considerable inconvinience from adopting this proposal at the approaching election, he should resist it. Mr. WALPOLE replied that the terms of tho minute had not been agreed to, though the principle had. The order of the day for the second reading was then dis charged. COUNTY ELECTION POLLS BILL. On the order of the day for going into committee on this bill, Lord R. GROSVENOR said that he had been under the impression that all objections to the principle of the bill had been completely disposed of by the almost unani. mous assent of the house to the second reading. lle found now a notice on the paper, given by the hon. member for South Leicestershire (Mr. Packe), who intended to re• open the question of the principle. Ile should therefore simply move that the Speaker leave the chair without then entering into any explanation of the alterations he proposed to make in the bill. Mr. P ACKE said be had bad no opportunity in the pre vious stages of this bill of stating the strong reasons he entertained against it, sod he had hoped (that the noble lord would have given some rea son for proceeding so rapidly with the bill. i Ile thought this measure was fraught with mischief, and would he the cause not only of inconvenience, but injustice to county electors. (Hear, hear.) Only two reasons had been stated for limiting the poll in counties to one day. In the first place it was said that there was more bribery on the second day. However that might be in boroughs, although there might be a greater pressure of voters, there was not in counties more bribery on the sew id day. The other ground was the decrease of expense. If he had inertly his own interests to consider, he might assent to the measure on this ground, for no doubt expense would be lessened ; but they were to consider whether they would sot be depriving some county electors of the franchise by placing it beyond their power to exercise it in more themes. place. Ile himself had seven (roundels, and at the elec. Lion of 1811. if he had not had the advantage of two days' polling, he could not have exercised his right of voting in two counties. The time occupied by all the county elections in the kingdom was not more than six env!, and in that time 138 county elections must take place I in England and Ireland, cad 9U in England and Wales. committee, and he called out " order," another hon. gentle- WWI put his hand in his face. They had endured this sort of interlerence with great kindness and forbearance, but there was a point at which it was unworthy for them to submit. Ile regretted that be had to be the un fortunate member to mike these observations, but be thought them necessary. The CHAIRMAN said the powers of the chairman were, to a certain extent, limited. What the chairman could do W4l to rep at t.• t!is Lou-cony 111i,011111.11t of any lion. gen tleman. If the house thought he should report the conduct of any hon. member, end would he kind enough to instruct him, he would report aecordingly. Mr. WALI'OLE said, after what took place last night, he thought the house had reason to expect that the inter ruption n hich had occurred in the house would not occur ' again. (Mr. O'Connor here rose and left the house.) Ile understood from a gentleman sitting on the other side of the house that he had been treated in a manner disrespect ful to himself and derogatory to the dignity of the house. lie thought it right, under these circumstances, unless an apology was made by the hon. member who committed the offence—(" No, no") ;—either an apology should be made or they should instantly report to the Speaker what had taken place. Sir J. I'AKINOTON said he accidentally observed the exlet conduct of the lion. gentli man (Mr. O'Connor), and he hail no hesitation in expressing his opinion, however painful it might he, that it was indispensably necessary, not only to the dignity of their proceedings, but to the conduct of public business, that this painful matter should not be passed over. lie thought they should suspend for a moment the proceedings of the committee, and refer what hail taken place to the highest authority in the house. The house then resumed, Mid Mr. ItEItNAL, addressing the Speaker, said he was in structed by the committee to report to him that the conduct aim hon. member had been such, that it was necessary that the house should take notice of it through him. The hon. member whose conduct lie was directed to report was one of the hon. members fur Nottingham. Mr. FITZROY begged leave to report, in addition to what Mr. Bernal had reported, that the lion. member—he meant the member fur Nottingham—had just addressed him in such a manner, that he Mu him if lie ventured to ad dress him arain, he would knock hint down. Mr. WALL'OLE—I move that the hen. member for Nottingham be ordered to attend in his place. Thu srv..tanis having put the motion, Mr. JACOB BELL said hi would ask whether it was of any use in reference to a gentleman who he was satisfied was suffering under misfortune. Ile thought it would Lit much better to refer the case to two medical men. The ATI' ORNEY-OEN lilt Al, was witness to the con duct of the hon. member last night, and lie thought, from what followed upon that, they could not hesitate to come to the conclusion that the bon. member was master of his own actions sufficiently to warrant the house in interfering to restrain the grossest indignity that he ever witnessed to an hon. member of that house for whom they all entertained the very big est respect. If he thought that the honourable member (Mr. O'Connor) was not a free agent, which he believed ham to be, and that he had not the commando( himself, which he had no doubt that he had, he certainly should not consent to the hon. gentleman being required to attend in his Ow, the consequence of which everybody must bat aware of. Hut inasmuch as he was perfectly satisfied the hon. member w..a quite com petent to understand what was proper conduct to be ob served by a member in that house, and having been called to account last night, hail instantly made an apology, show ing that he was aware of his conduct and what was due to the house, lie thought it would not be inconaistent with the dignity of the house to allow the hon. member to retire without that notice being taken of his conduct which would tend to the iumiresaion of it. Mr. T. MUNCOMBE said he wax the party responsible for the retirement of the hon. member lor Nottingham. The hon. member Caine to him and gave him a blow in the side. lie said to him " You will get into a serious scrape, and in all probability will be locked up ;" on which he left him, and immediately turned round to the hon. mem ber for the \Vest Wiling and struck him in the face. It was a difficult question to solve whether a man who would do that, after the warning he gave him, was a free agent. lie (Mr. Buncombe) said he was not. Suppose they called on him to attend in his place, and he would not, what could they du ? Mr. HILOYARD perfectly concurred with the hon. gentleman who had just sat down, that it would be a per fect farce to order the presence of the hon. gentleman, and inform him he must make an apology. Probably before he had finished the apology, be would repeat the offence. Ile saw him put his fist in the hon. gentleman (Mr. I)coition's) face. That being done in the presence of them all was a great contempt, and he thought the hon. member ought to be committed. Ile moved that the hon. member for Not tingham Ise committed into custody fur contempt of the equity draftsman, or as conveyancer, notary public, solicitor, attorney, or proctor; and an amendment moved by Mr. ScHoLEFIELD in the 21st clause, adding the word. "articled clerk." The bill then passed through committee. The other orders of the day were then disposed of. On coining to THE ADJOURNED DEBATE ON MAYNOOTH, It being then rive minutes to 6, Mr. SPOON Elt nank.d Moodsy as the day on which it was to come on. Mr. ANSTEY asked the hon. gentleman if he really in tended it to come on on Monday ? Mr. bilk/NEIL -1 can't tell. It dein nds on jou. Mr. ANSTEY said the bon. gentleman could speak to his amendment ; he could not. Perhaps the hon. gentleman would have the courtesy to answer the question. Mr. SPOONER made no response to this appeal. Mr. OSWALD said he trusted the hon. member would reply. Mr. SPOONER, however, did not reply. The house then adjourned. Zit*. erlprefsg. TO CORIIRSPON 1117.NTS. :event Zillion • f " The Fhpfere," euntdiaunt the name ' , web e'r •• rdv Ht.., ^l I.llhliphod cevrJ Tered..y and Vrtlay utgia, mto for pont. t.l•e• :ferments intended foe "The Nel•re.," Lawton Y.renine rupee, mu. , be at the •nace, lu, lloseerui•etztei. ',•7 Two o'clock ow due day of publimetion. HIGH WAT7.II AT LONDON BRIDGE. 111113 DAI--r. main, 79. 1, Afternosa, 99. 349 e. 7..leasuw—ltorning, 9.4 GIB Arit romp, tb. 39c0. LOA - DON, THURSDAY, JUNE 10. ImrurarT is said to beget insolence—and that it does so we find new proof in the last ivit of Louts NAPOLEON. Without his uncle's genius, he has many of that uncle's failings; and amongst the rest inherits the First Consul's inability to discover w here it is wise to stop. Having overrun Italy and Germany, the uncle ventured upon Russia: having fleeced Fr.ilice of her liberties, the nephew ventures upon something very like insult to English freedom. The gagged press of France lies helpless at his feet—and now he seeks to intimidate the free press of England. On Tuesday, the agent of the French police, who has under his special charge the newspapers of France, sent fur the Paris correspondents of two or three of the London daily papers, that he might communicate to them the future intentions of LOUIS NAPOLEON towards the English press. In per forming this task, the agent, M. Lirouit-Du- MOULIN, is described as bringing the manners and language of cultivated life to bear upon the work in hand, evidently in order that its real character might seem less abominable. But tyranny, however bland, is still tyranny, and in this case there was no room for mistake. In his interview with the correspondent of the Express, the first intimation M. DLMOULIN gave was, that what he was about to state must be regarded as an official notice of the French government. lie then went on to say that the English newspapers had been mitt-vet/us towards the PitEsiDENT, and added that in all future cases, when anything offensive appeared in the columns of an English newspaper, its representative in Paris would be made responsible thr it, and be forthwith expelled from France ! Astonished by such a threat, our cm- respondent replied : That if the French government made the Paris corre spondent of an English paper rearnsible for whatever appeared in that paper relative to France, it would act neither according to the principles of justice, law, nor in tcrnaticnal usage. It was known that the responsibility could only lie with the editor of the newspaper in Englund. A correspondent funned no part of what the French call the r•Vaction of a paper. Ile was a private person, who sent confidential letters, the responsibility of whose publication he had nothing whatever to do with. The remedy of the French President lay clearly against the news paper, which ho might either prosecute in the English court. of law, ,, or lay a diplomatic complaint against •' -could, in point Mr. COBDEN observed that the principle of the bill had house. with the English government; which wouici, in . au of been admitted, end that the objections, some of which pro The SPEAKER said it was certainly quite competent to fact, come to the MOW thing; only in the latter case the eroded upon an aseumption that the electors undervalued move that the hon. member be committed. Whenever a french government would hold the English uutlioritie, the franchise, were for the committee. complaint hail bet, made against any hon. member, it had responsible for the prosecution of the paper. The French The original motion was opposed 17 Sir B. MittDOE4, and been usual to hear hint in his place, and it was on th it government had recently followed such a course supported by Mr. Bouvet*, Mr. W. Miles, and Mr. Oswald, account he suggested that the hon. gentleman should he in litigious. When the Prince President's uncle be during whose speech there were loud and frequent cries of ordered to attend in his plan. But if the house was of came emperor, he was attacked with violence by a paper, " Order," arising from the extraordinary conduct of Mr. opinion that the offence would admit of no apology, it c -r- and he took this means of realrest. He caused a criminal O'Connor, who kept perambulating up and down the tainly was quite competent in tho house to order the hon. information to be hied against the editor of the newspaper. house, and laying bold first of one member and then an- gentleman to be committed to the custody of the sergeant- who was defended by Sir James Mackintosh. The upshot other, and insisting on shaking hands with them. He was at-arms. of the affair was the condemnation of the newspaper to COO- 1 at length called to order by the Speaker, and kit he Mr. ANSTEY suggested that, instead of doing that, they siderable damages. M. Latour-Duruoulin answered that the house. should sequester the hon. member from his seat. French government could not accept the theory of irrespon- The house then divided: Mr. AGLIONBY considered the hon. member to be un- sibihity. For going into committee lfiG accountable for his actions. If an order of the house would Louis NAPOLEON will hold a Paris correspondent Against it B2-81 have the effect of placing him under medical seem ince and liable, ho says, for what an editor in England may The house then went into committee. the are of his friends he would not Nciiitate for a moment. say of his acts, although he knows perfectly well On clause 1, Sir D. DUNDAS was clearly of opinion that the hon. ' Mr. HENLEY asked what were the intentions of the member was aware of, and ought to be answerable for what that a correspo n dent has no more influence over the promoter of the bill as to bringing it into immediate opera- he was doing. (Hear, hear.) leading columns of the paper he writes for, than over tion, as this first clause repealed the old law ? It had been Mr. WALPOLE was sure the house would deal with the Royal Gazelle at St. Petersburg. But the editor assumed that seven miles was the average distance from the this ease, as in every other, with mercy ; but he must say is beyond the President's jurisdiction—the corre• spondent is in his power; and sou pon the innocent polling booths. In many places in Oxtordshire the voters that, throughout the session, the manner of the hon. pentle had to go fourteen or fifteen miles. In that county many nan in the house bad been disrespectful and diworderly, he threatens to wreak thevengeance impotent to reach of the poor electors, who could not walk the distance, were and the time bad come when they must put a stop to it. carried up by their neighbours in their own conveyances; T he very circumstance of the hon. member's being allowed those who offend him by telling truth. In the old bar but if the whole votes were to be polled in one day, the to continue to sit and vote justified them in considering barons days a similar despotism was often indulged. convenience must be greatly abridged. him responsible. Under these circumstances, without fur- Many a successful tyrant has murdered, in cold Mr. COBDEN said, that if sonic voters were fourteen her debate, he thought it his duty to MOTO that Mr. blood, the wife and children of an opponent who was miles from the polling place, others were close to it; there- Feargus O'Connor be committed to the custody of the out of reach, and now one man is to be punished in fore, the average distance would not be mon than seven. sergeant-at-arms for contempt of the house. (Hear, hest.) _ [Mr. O'Connor , who had walked in and out of the P aris because another is troublesome in London. Mr. HENLEY said it was no advantage to the man who bowie several times during the discus-ion, and who while Was there ever a more unblushing stretch of had fourteen =Pei to go to know that hie brother voter bad this motion was being made had walked up to the Speaker power than to make a man responsible for that the polling booth at his door. (Ikar, hear.) and stationed himself close beside the Saker's chair, here over w hi c h h o h as no con t ro l ? B u t having, for a Sir 0. PECIIELL said that Shoreham was the polling walked out of the house rather quickly.] pe time, succeeded in stopping free discussion in France, place for a district 20 miles by 10; and he knew the Sir J. PAKINOT co ON seconded the motion. The n farmers have any difficulty in getting there. In fact, many duct of the hon. gentleman was such that he was not to be the hero of the coupe clot seeks to force the meshes of them were driven up. (Cheers and laughter,) considered master of his owe actions, and he therefore of his tyranny across the English Channel. Lord It. GROSVENOR said it was his intention that the thought that out of humanity to the hon. gentleman, as the co agent talks of the dissemination of " false bill should me into operation immediately. (Cheers.) well as regard to their own dignity, they should pass this "but news; it is not false news that offends, but true. He regretted that this should be viewed in some degree as motion. Is the story of the coup oraat " false news ?" le the a party question ;he did not see that one party would gain The motion was then put and agreed to, and immediately tragedy _of the the unarmed P . • :ans shot down by more than another by the proposed change. (Hear, hear.) the greatest portion of the members in the house rushed It was fallacious to contend that the polling could not into the lobby, whither Mr. F. O'Connor had just preceded thousands in streets in December—ls that be taken en one day. In fact, it was done so them. " fake news?' Is the list of eminent and patriotic now; for no voter set out on the Monday in order to vote COUNTY ELECTIONS POLL BILL. Frenchmen exiled from their country "false news ?" on the Tuesday. (Hear, hear.) Therefore, it could not The hOWIC then again went into committee on twos bill Are the groans of thousands transported without be urged that it was iMpraeticabla for the voters to get to Mr. DEEDES said as the principal di ffi culty dbo trial to C a yenne—are they " false news ?" Arc the poll. Allusion bad been made to the difficulty of ob- the paucity of polling booths at the ensuing election, he taining conveyances. At present, the first day, in nine cases gave notice of a clause that the sheriff shall on the requisi- the refusals of the best generals and statesmen of out of ten, decided the election ; and that, although the tion of the quarter sessions increase the pulling booths. France to take the oath to LOUIS NAPOLEON'S govern ' first polling-day was only seven hour', from nine to four, Clause 1 was then agreed to. mcnt—are they " false news ? " Are the decrees order while on the second day it was eight. From this he in- On clause 2, the spoliation of the private property of (erred that there would be no difficulty whatever in polling Mr. MILES moved an amendment to the effect, that the lo g the OHLF.ANS family " false news ? " Yet all the voters on one day. He did not apprehend that any act come into operation on the Ist January, 1863. further arrangements would be necessary, but to obviate Lord R. GROSVENOR opposed the amendment. these are the things that have made the any difficulty that might arise, he proposed' to extend the The committee divided— free . journals of this country couple Louts NAPO time of polling till six o'clock. At present, on the first For the amendment 9l LEON s name with those terms that make him anxious day, the average number polling was one voter in a minute, Against it things let him remember which have become part of under the proposed arrangement it would not be more than The clause was then agreed to. one in two minutes. The possibility of a riot had been re- Lord It. GROSVENOR moved a clause to enable the (erred to; but he thought this much less likely in a county lligh Sheriff to make such provisions in the pulling booths the sad story of the flue country he now holds in than in a borough. He never heard of a riot in a county that not more than 300 electors shall be polled at th e same bondage. if no other news came from Paris fur a polling-booth. (Hear, hear.) He had always understood compartment, instead of 4.50, as is the rule at present. century, here is a catalogue full enough of texts for the boroughs were much more dangerous places ; now, it Sir J. DUCKWORTH thought there should be an in- volumes of written condemnation. seemed it was the counties that were to be dreaded. crease of polling districts rather than polling booths, so that But does Louts NAPOLEON think it posaible for Mr. B. DENISON believed that no part of this bill the voters would have to travel shorter distances to give would deprive an elector of giving his vote. Every elec- their votes. him to expel every Englishman front France ? tion was virtually decided on the first day. Mr. B. DENISON said no one disputed the desirability Because until ho does so ho may rely upon it the Mr. HENLEY said in the counties of Middlesex and of increasing the pulling districts, but that did not touch Express and the other London daily papers will Rutland the decision of the first day had been reversed by the the question. He objected to the clause proposed, because have intelligence of all that happens there. If our pre second day. Then what was to be dope in the ease of a not ? it would increase the polling booths unnecessarily. sent correspondent were expelled to-morrow we have Persons in a town might record their votes, and, when Lord R. GROSVENOR said he had no objection to make country voters came in, create such a riot that they could it an enabling instead of a compulsory clause. another ready on the instant to till his yost. Let hint not vote. They could noldoit now with any effect, because After some discussion, expel a second—and a third will spring up. There if they stopped the poll the first day, there would be an Lord It. GROSVENOR withdrew the clause. are Frenchmen, too, as well as Englishmen ready opportunity for the voters giving their votes the next day. Mr. ELLIOT gave notice that on the third reading of for such emergencies. If the President carries on this Sr. B. DENISON said he would have the polling take the bill he should move that Scotland be included in the system, as each writer is expelled he will find place in all the ridings and the counties and the boroughs bill. " another and another still succeed." Faithful to the at the same time, so that the votes would go to the poll Mr. BAILLIE also gave notice that he should move that without knowing what had taken place at the other polling the county of Inverness he excluded laws that rule other things the demand for men ready er tn ao booths. The Under-sheriff of Yorkshire had told him he Mr. MONSELL also gave notice that he should move a to carry on the important Mission of the Press could poll all the voters in three hours. With regard to a clause that it be extended to Ireland. will secure a supply. We shall, therefore, despite rhe 'o ca l p e i a t m al V us e m be e being done be c don el e theo of g r e at truth riot, the under-sheriff had the same power as the high The bill then passed through committee, and the home! pol i ce ._ a_ , a, . , sheriff of suspending the poll. Ile t ;ought there was no resumed. about what is necessity for extending the hours from 4 to 6. COUNTY COURTS FURTHER EXTENSION BILL. Mr. ii. BAILLIE said he did not see how all the votes The house went into committee on this bill, resuming at and enlightened, but now enslaved and unhappy, n w e • l er er fo y u e n t d a cel werr to e f , ro a n o lo t t o e n , g an w d ttl fro n n o t could be taken in one day. suppose ono of the candidates clause 2.5 which empowers the Lord Chancellor to give France. So long as this journal is faithful to th at were to insist upon tendering the bribery oath to all the pensions t oi retiring judges. cause wh w it hic haa h it voters, it would be impossible to take the votes in time. Mr. STANFORD said, before the house took any step threats and no fear of consequences prevent it front The ATTORNEY-GENERAL then rose to address the to increase pensions, they should have some good reason. house, when loud cries of " Order " were raised, caused Be moved to add the following words:—" Provided that by the promedings of such judge, at the time of such resignation, shall have speaking what is known to be the truth. Foreign MIL FEARGUS O'CONNOR, served the office of judge for a period of not less than 16 governments shall be subjected in its columns to the who kad he some time attracted the attention of the house years." There are about 60 equity court judges, and they same f ree an d w h o l esome cr i t i c i sm emp l oye d i n dis hy the oseatrkity of his behaviour. Every ten minutes or were by this clause to empower the Lord Chancellor to • cussing ourhome a airs. e sins of bite . ysee es des he.. member would enter the house, proffer his hand grant pensions, not exceeding two-thirds of the salary,. to ti► • Th 'FI ' equally with those of • Naples or of Russia shall be le Os members sitting upon the front opposition and minis- any of the judges, without any restriction. The act giving Wel and then retire. About 3 o'clock th e hon. power to grant pensions to the judges of the superior courts denounced as fearlessly and as openly as they deserve wesabse teak is seat upon the front opposition bench, by provided that no such pensions should be allowed unless to be, and tyranny and injustice shall still he called by lbe ebb of Captain Fitzroy, and here his manner was most such helms bad served 16 year., or are afflicted with their true names--tyranny and in ustice—and nothing allbseire and ungentlemanly ; for, after giving the hon. and some infirmity rendering them incapable of fulfilling their leas. We wish to say nothing fl int is false—we will gallant captain a smart slap upon t h back, he snatched a office. Ile did not eee why this principle should be departed letter from his hand, which Captain Fitzroy was upon ;the from in the case of county court judges. never conceal anything that is true. In England we point of opening, and did not return it until after some ezpos- Mr. FITZ ROY said the o bj ec t of the retiring pension have the great privilege of enjoying that freedom of tulation on the part of Capt. Fitzroy. A little while after- was to induce the retirement of judges who, from age or the press which MILTON claimed and which so many wards Capt. Fitzroy removed to a seat below the b ar , w h e n other cause, should be incompetent. If the hon. gentleman have since suffered to secure—a freedom of the Mr. O'Connor, in one of his pprresees round the house, ten- had moved that the pension should be given only in case of tarots subject always to the law. That law, if we say dered his hanito the hon.and lantgentleman, who refused infirmity, or having served fifteen years, be should not have • to take it. Mr. O'Connor t hereupon made some °Nerve- objected to it. aught illegal or wrong, is ever ready to do justice to tions to Captain Fitzroy, who started up in an attitude so Mr. STANFORD said they had already provided for the really injured; that law is open to Louis menseing that Mr. O'Connor appeared to consult his per- bodily infirmity, sod what he wanted to do was to prevent NAPOLEON as it was open to NAPOLEON BONA sonal safety by walking out of the house, which he insme- pensions being granted to judges who have not served for PARTE. To it we owe respect and b it 7 wo RTC dietely did. A few minutes afterwards Mr. O'Connor again fitteen years. entered the house. Every one was painfully conscious that Mr. WALPOLE said this amendment would prevent rea - • dv to abide. But whilst we • enjoy this wholesome a scene was now approaching. The member for Notting• pensions being granted even in eases of permanent infirmity liberty of the press, the hero of the coup (Mat ham, after tendering his hand to Mr. Cobden, who, fur the rendering the judge unfit to fulfil his office. may rely upon this, that though truth may be twentieth time, accepted it, and to other members, who After some further discussion the amendment was with- strangled in Paris, and may be whispered only in refused it, found his way to the front opposition bench, drawn. Belgium, it will yet be told fully and aloud by whershe took his seat beside Mr. T. Duncombe, with whom Two other clauses were then agreed to, one moved by ,r, o f London. 11 . 11 . la WV he engaged in a conversation, the purport of which was Mr. Hammett, giving effect to warrants issued in one 1 the Areas —go agent talks of " false afterwards stated by the hon. member for Finsbu . jurisdiction when the defendant has moved into another ; news-" This is the old a am. " False news " wan Mr. B. DENISON said, really he must ap to the and a second, moved by Mr. Itueemon, forbidding county I the plea when CHARLES 11. put down the press that house, for when the Attorney-Omni wits ad • the pout judge to practise at the bet, as special pleader, or d ims had grown up under the commouvrealth ; "false Ifouse of Commons will this evening anima the consideration of the New Zealand Government Bill in committee. The importance of passing this measure without delay can scarcely be exaggerated. New Zealand has perhaps, when the infest ion ity of our settlements there to those iq South Africa in extent and numbers is allowed fur, such red (Atli more from the withholding of local representative government than the Capt. The Cape colaiists ' have been exposed to frontier wars, and have Ical the development of their material resoumes retarded under irresponsible nominee misrule. But the india. trial enterprise of the New Zealand colonists has been utterly paralysed, and they hose seen their Is3t and bravest massacred with impunity at their very doors, mainly for want of the check which an elec. five legislature might have imposed upon the in. competence and bad faith of their petty, irrespor,iole local despots. Nearly thirteen years have elapsed since the art attempt to colonise: New Zealand systematically was fairly begun. The attempt with OM made me day too soon. An irregular and baneful co o . nisation WU in rapid progress. In the north. unprincipled adventurers, the off-scourings e t the then penal colony of New South Wale-, were contending with false servants of our great mi.. sionary associations to cheat the native s out of their land. Around Cook's Straits lawless settlements of runaway convicts and deserters from whalers and merchantmen were forming establishments which threatened in time to become resorts of buecanws. The squatters of the south freighted vessels to inve terate ruffians like RAUMMAILv and enabled him ro extend the theatre of his barbarous atrocities. 'fie grog sellers of tho north demoralised the natives by encouraging their propensity for spirituous liquors. The land-sharking mission servants threw discre dit on religion and led the more intelligent natives to regard their instructions as a farce. Arn-cg the settlers were no doubt some better natures, but their influence for good was entirely paralysed by the :reckless hordes who immigrated among than. The French government, too, threatened to occupy part of the islands for the formation of that intoleruLe nuisance a convict depot. Since that time, regular orderly settlements have been formed around Wellington, Nelson, New Ply mouth, Otago, and Lyttelion. The charuettirs of these settlements vary considerably. The first time were formed upon principles of liberalism or latitudi narianism—we will not quarrel with auybody about names. The last two were formed upon religious or sectarian principles—each reader may take the epi thet he judges most applicable. But, in all of them, the great body of the settlers were picked men: capitalists of considerable means, good educatium and regular habits; and labourers selected on ac count of their good characters. The proportion of females to males was unexampled in such young settlements, and every person who is experiment ally acquainted with colonial life, or has paid any attention to the history of colonisation, can tell how conducive this circumstance is to orderly and moral habits and regular industry. There are already in New Zealand thirteen or fourteen thou sand natives of Great Britain—wives and husbands with their families the e',ite of our middle and labouring classes, with a sprinkling even of the aristocracy. A nucleus of English civilisation more rich in its promise of future good has never been planted in savage lands since the days of the Pilgrim Fathers. Settlements of a more dubious character, hut still infinitely superior to any that were in the progress of formation before hods, have also been formed at Auckland and in the Bay of Islands. It would be a faint expression of the injustice which these settlements have experienced at the hands of the home government merely to say that they have been left, as settlers in other colonies, at the mercy of officials in whose appointment they had no voice Their first governor was sent out for the avowed purpose of thwarting and obstructing them, and all his successors have been encouraged to conduct themselves in the same antagonistic spirit. The colonists were delivered up helpless to the tender mercies of the local authorities, and the best nay fur a govcsnor of New Zealand to pay his court is Downing - street, has ever been to maintain a hostile attitude towards them. For a long time the settlers were prevented from procuring safe titles to the lands they occupied. and had paid dearly for. They were denied protection from; the open and insidious attacks of barbarous, avaricious marauding chiefs. They could not , till their lands in safety, and they had no security that they would be enabled to retain possession of tab lands their industry and applied capital had mado krtilc. They were sub jected to heavy customs duties, which deterred traders from visiting them, and drew away the whalers who had previously resorted to New Zea land fur supplies of provisions and repaint. The I persecution has of late years abated, but they have still been abandoned to the caprice of their governors. Heavily taxed, they have seen the surplus revenues of the wealthier settlements diverted from their legitimate application to pay supernumerary officials in the poorer settlements. The native chiefs have been abetted in preposterous claims that have in some instances rendered the construction of roads and bridges and the establishment of ferries impossible. Under all these diseouragements they have reclaimed lands from the waste; they have ac cumulated flocks and herds; they have prosecuted the whale fisheries; they have shipped wool, and oil, and lumber to 'England ; they have established commercial intercourse with the neighbouring cob nice ' • they . have founded schools and churches, esta blished saving banks and mechanics institutes, and agricultural and horticultural societies. But the de velopment of their industry has been impeded by vexatious regulations; government has refused to erect lighthouses for them, or to allow other parties to do it ; whilst the produce of exorbitant taxes 111 t gately wasted upon creatures of the government who have nothing to do. All these evils might have been remedied had they only been allowed a Yoke in the management Of their affairs. All that they have ever asked from the mother country is to be left to themselves. with no more protection against aggression from without than could be afforded by their recognition as a part of the British empire, and an occasional visit from a British man-of-war. But these moderate requests have hitherto been refused. The constitution long denied, was, when granted at last, again withdrawn from them before it could he carried into execution. That, in these circumstances, a spirit of disaffiction should be beginning to creep in among them is not to be wondered a'. That some among them should have turned their eyes towards the United States, whose flag is so frequent in their seas, is most natu ral, however it may be gallin6 to our pride to hear it. The present condition of New Zealand is ominous of an angry separation from the mother country, should the mother-country at any time tied itself involved in hostilities with any powerful state or ' states. New Zealand, whether dependent or inde pendent, so long as it is friendly to Great Britain , offers an asylum to our surplus population, theichY convetting unprofitable burdens on our charity into profitable customers. This advantage may he lost by continuing to withhold a constitution from the colonists. Of the New Zealand Government Bill now before parliament our opinion has already been expressed. Exceptionable in some of its details, it is yet suth cient to give the colonists an efficient voice in the management of their own affairs. It contains within it a provision, in virtue of which the colonists will have it in their power gradually to amend their constitution, and accommodate it more ; Icompletely to their wants. And it is hut "'s justice to Sir JOHN PIEINGTON to Ittato that lie has THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY ETENING, JUNE 10, 1852. news" was the excuse under which JANIE 4 If, of England, and CHARLEY X and Louts Piiitieeft of France, commenced their persecutions of the press. But these three kings were a ll over from ti hy the very victim they selected for their insane wrath—newspapers were too muckier them, us each had leisure to discover in exile. And why Because the press in its integrity has a necessity of modern civili,auun latause in its integrity it is a thing the wupid doily wants nod wanting trill parr. Prevent i yi f i „ in freedom of nariation and freedom of crititivu its integrity is gone, and it becomes a dead, gaunt, hollow shame—like the press at this hour in Paris. And with such a soulless corpse a modern civilised people will not long be content. Two of his pre decessors—fearful of truth—waged, for a while suc cessfully, a war of intolerance with the press. LM - IS NAPOLEON knows their fate.