The Express. — London, England, 1851-06-27 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—THVitsDAY, irtia 26. The Lotto Cu ANCILLOR tank his seat at See o'clock. PETITIONS PRBSENTED. CHARITATILL TOC,TS BILL.--Lad LYNDHURST pees 1 seated a petition from the eivtraseasad the Free &h e ad's* , Alusshoules Matthew Saisharelleetes i uawashir a is I pleasing that an appointment amp lei foie Is He orille , at the said grammar steed hail beau attrpeaded ea sa to ths Craft ea. pay end that they (the eslasd ups as the eosti th n e ee suit. ren ie t 18 4 d 1: 1 1 .1" ohs 16e jt a d e ta k ingre e F inal vid ion sub! 1 1 Mats& that the Nib is salts arising out of mem io advertence, and edema toad on the part of charity 1 trustees, should be pig of of the trust funds. The noble and learned lord wadi mat my that the judgrant of the court was wrong, bees., he had not read the affidavits, which were very voluminous. Ito thought, however, that nopthing could he more unsatisfactory than a jud gment Avon p= &Malvin+, without an opportunity of taw:minim sirs sore. Lord BROUGHAM concurred in all that his noble and learned friend had said. After a few words from the Marquis of Lsesnowen which were inaudible in the gallery, the petition was laid ea the table. Petition* against the Charitable Trusts Bill were pre. mewl by Lord STANLEY, from the Goldsmiths' Com puny ; Lord REDESDALE, from the Haberdashers' and the Mercers' Companies; the Marquis of SALISBURY, from St. Bartholomew's Hospital ; "NOBLE LOltD, from the trustees of the Rugby Charity; and the Earl of ROWDY, from St. Thomas's Hospital. Tor. NATIONAL LAND COMPANY. —By Lord BROUGHAM, from a person on behalf of himself and others, who had been for four or dm months in prison in marrispsence of the proceedings of the National Land Com plexly. under the management of a membre of the other bowie of parliament. Ile hail had an earth.s correspond. once UM this subject, copies of writs and other original documents having been often enclosed in the letters which belted received. It was in vain fur these parr people to think they could obtain redress in this way ; the judgment of the court having gone forth against them, he was bound to helisve it was eorreet ; and he wan afraid there could be no remedy applied to the grievant , complained of. Lord CAMPBELL thought that the bill before their lordships' lions.- ou this subject would provide a remedy, and he bad hail • groat number of applications for copies of it. It wool! he moat desirable if greater facilities were gists to parties intere.trd in hills lief ire their lordships' house. in obtainmg copies of such bills, which at present mail only be obtained by an order from a peer. PA I ENT LAW AMENDMENT (No. 3) BILL. Tlsis bill was read a second time, after a brief discussion, not a syllable of which reached the gallery. 113TMC' DUTIES (IRELAND) CONTINUANCE I BILL—BRITISH WHITE HERUINU FISHERY DILL. These bills severally went through committee, and were reported to the house. THE CASE OF JOTEE PERSIRCD. Th4lli of ELLENISOItoI'Iii II dab that the receipt of further information reqweting the treatment of the 'Radon merchant, Jotee Penland, by the E ed India Com pany, confirming the view of the case he had lately offered to their lionblovi, induced him to bring forward the sub ject acain : he accordingly gave notice that he should fulfill that duty to-morrow (thi. day). FARM RENTS (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion of the Marquis of CI.VIKICANIIF, thin hill, after a fi sr words from the Earl of WICKLOW, was read a second time. CU %BITABLE TRUSTS BILL. The I.oltll (11A3i(31.11.1.0117in mitriwr the order of the .1 .y for the second residing of th.s hill, said he need not necupy their lordships time in endeavouring to imprests on th.ir minds the importance of thin hill, and the necessity which existed for some legislation on the subject. That legislatiim, however, would be attended with great diffi culty. Th., subject had been under the consiileration of ;wham. ut for nearly seventy pars. In 17*.; returns with reference to it were ordered by parliament from all ete clerks of the peace in the kingdom. They rate:tiled, however, but very little attention until his wild.. :Ind le trued friend (Lord Brougham) moved for a rum-litter on the subject in 1106. Since that time there had Is t n fire weird rontruishism., one of whom was now matins.. Foor of thse,c commissions hof M_-en under the uuthority of pirliainent, and the last had been wider the sign MRlll3llOl' her Majesty. That C/1111.71i , i,11l hail hal to certain reports on the subject of charities. rising full and important information as to many of them. It appeared that there were t 4,810 charities in the kingdom which hail been the subject, more or leas, of this in q uiry. Of these, there were 1:1,0110 and upwards the income of which was less than M. per year; there were 1,000 under lftsf. a year; and there were considerable number., varying from 4010 to 4,010, under 11101. a year. The importance of calling at tention to the income of these rharitien arse principally from the necessity, which often ireoirred, of litigation, in order to wenre their due administratiim; for it must be evident that, in eh:with:ulna/10r 41. year, the rspense of any legal inquiry would absorb the income of Awl charities fur some year.. Th. Visit commission, which had presented two reports, consisted of three members of their lord ship"' house, three members of the House of t'ommotts, master in clianci ry, a barrister. and the secretary. The report of the roniniission on this subject was one of great fullness sari Ability ; and hinsse IMO various bills hail been brought forward, *one /if thetas stir:owing to the biter Marv', hut Noise suisectaling in being passel. (Inc bill in trorlsw,3l in 1814 hail heen yearied by their lordship., ;111 .1 hunt down to the Hooke of Commons; but the ministers of this illy n.prehential that the important, imperative buss . si of the sorhsion was so great that the, ilia nut think it de hirable, in that heshion, to procted with the measure. lie hal now to state the characteristic" of the bill which 110 waked their lordships to read a second time, and he must nay that if this bill, to which as much attention hail been Riven, anti /111 which an much (ATP had been bertowisl, did ant meet with approbation, the coucluhion would he, after hammy attempts, that it would be impahsilile to legislate ou the hulijoet at all. 'the report of the late commisuicsu bad fully demonstratisal the absolute necessity which esisted for wine central control and superinteedence over charities. (The noble and learned lord here in- Mane.' numerinis causes of abuse in this administration of charitable trusts.) This bill proposed that there should be a permanent ; and it was thought that the esistenee of such a hotly would prevent more than half the evils of which compliant was now made. Ity proper con trol the property of the charities might he incelea l taly in. crews'. In ITsto the property who worth only tili,oof. By a certain amount of control it had now layout' 1,200,001 W.: and he was satisfied that bye proper sysb in of supervision it would lor iocreaa.l to the extent of 100,000/. more. The power whin la he proposed to give to the csounsissioners was enesiderable. They would have power to institute in quiries; to call for accounts; to indemnify trustees Mr act- Inc, in certain caws before the order of the tumnaissionen was made out ; and to certify to the Attorney General inch CAWS for prosecution as might call for his interference. Cases of charities under a certain amount a year were to be referred to the county court to he administered: and, in the event of my doubt. arising as to the derision .1* the County Court Judge, the COITIMi•SI , 011.1 would hive the power to grant on appeal. In other ens s power would he given to commence proceedings directly before a Master in Chancery. Effectual will was d i -ode fur the auditing of the nssolints. The hill provided that trustees shall re tort, an annual account of their ro cripts and disburse anent., and that a copy shall he transmitted to the clerk of the pears and to the County Court, to Ile open, in both in • et 41101.4, to public insp.-non. The couimi.ga i m eno w e r e annually to lay their account. Bud a report of their pro weber. heron- both bones of parliament. The board was to consist of Nye commissioners. The ea 1a11.1.1 of the cum miiaion wore to be defray.' in a very simple manner. No charity ander M. a year would be mitered to pay anything towards these expenses. Charities above 10/. sere to he toyed at the rate of twopence in the pound; and that, according to the estimate which had lees made, would return a runt of 8,100/. • year. The jurisdiction of the bill was clear. It was proposed to inter fere only with permanently endowed charities. In the caws of charities maintained by ordinary voluntary sub scriptions there would his no interference whatever, such chanties adequately controlled by the subecribers. bird Boon la t and Reaxbrr warmly supported the principle of the measure, without coirmsitting them selves se to the After ease ohrrrr.ttions from the Ertl of CHICHI...4'IEIZ mod the LOUD CHANCIELLUS, Tbr WI was mod • owed tim,, and flirt/ Irrtlihips eslJoureed •t • quarter pea 7 o'clock. ROUSE OF COMMONS.—Tits liantY, iums 26. The Sea sato Wok the chair at 12 'ideals. I'ItIVATE BUSINESS. The Athawes* Estates Bill and the Christ's Hoomital Estate Bill were severally rvad • third time and paned. THE sr. ALBANS BRIBERY COMMISSION BILL. —TIIF. MORNING SITTINGS. On the ardor of the day for the third reading of the St. Alh m. ILA.______ Mr. ERE '''' complained that a motion which he in truded to m tke b,en superwided by t h e bill of the hon. nwenber for St. Analrew••. The SI'EAKER cap' tined that the moruiug sittings wore latesiled ter the convenience of government busine.. but it did not tallow that a private member was not at liberty to place ■ bill of Ilia own among the orders of the day. Ilad the hem. member taken this coon his bill would have come on in its proper . placc. Mr. ItEWLN soil if his bill Jul not have premiznee Ile .to.uhl move that the order of the day be postponed. After a few wont front Mr. Stt - alat, Sir O. OItEY said the bill in question of the hon. member for St Andrew's affect.. the purity of election., and there- fore the house ought to hove every fachity granted of push ing forward such a bill. Mr. ti. BANKES considered it would be highly in.leeo mut to proe..l with the bill, as there were so few members present. After tome further discussion the niation was declared withdrawn. and the debate was 'mated on the question of the third re tiling. Mr. C. lIA h.ES tloni e tht the bill ought not to b e pressed forward until it hail received Nether consideration, and until hon. members knew what it contained. Sir O. (.I(EY said, on far from hon. members not know ing what was in the bill, the hill had been moat amply discussed. and hail twice gone through comutittctr of the house. After a few words from Mr. El.Lter.. jun., Captain HARRIS tuid thi se inquiries were mere farces, aa4 it was impossible the country could have any eoafi.leuee is the notate. Mr. G. BASHES objected to Or lane before the house, r an lane unfortunate for the thareeder of al= After n espitulating his objections to Me be that was needed ; but he objected to the sods whisk tt ry was to be preeseled. and Id did ket Ark Se wane now pursued woe worthy of bring oda bibbed as a precedent. Hvefurtlker__ *Mod to the powers while well to be vested in'tbe tribehal which would hare earinet the inquiry ; and that was one substantial reason whiddrineed kir to object to the third reading of this bill. Ms bM was so drawn up as not only to affect the mend member, but to toach every member who had pre= reedy sat for St. Alban's. He was sure, whatever might be the &teas of the bill in that house, th at it would not Er is egarew place. He had done his duty opposing and. without raising any surmise against any one, be would say Me bill was a strong meow. to send to the House of Leeds, considering the power that was to be con ferred on the parties nominated for the commission. He would eftly eensent to bring parties accused before their arum is spa court, and as the bill did not give that mi nt?the seerall, Ise must oppose the pill on its third Titania@ which ho thought the preferable mode I=s eptei la this ease was to appoint a commission of remebees of parliament rather than a commission of =lf this were done the objects of particular persons e defeated, and justice would have a chance of being attained. He should move that the bill be read a third time that day Sit months. Mr. HENLEY wished the hon. member for St. Andrew's to state whether he intended the decision of this commission to be law. After stating several objections to the provision of the bill the hon. and learned member said ho further ob jected to the bill because it was intended to conduct the inquiry in private, and because no security was taken against the publication of privileged professional communications. The professional man, it was true, was protected, but not the client. This was an obvious injustice, which ought to be remedied. If the bill went out of the house with that provision in it, there was another house in which he hoped the matter would be set right. Mr. ELLICE, Jun., said the amendment had been care fully considered, and had been brought in because the com miaten, in the case of the borough of Sudbury, had proved abortive, on account of the want of the powers now sought to be obtained. Ile was willing to put words into the bill which would give the protection required by the hon. and learned member. Mr. STUART considered that the bill bad a laudable object in view. It was to prevent bribery, and to punish the authors of it. But then the house must proceed in a constitutional and in a regular way; otherwise, so far from good being done, injury only would be the result. The house was called upon to legislate, because the committee appointed to inquire into the merits of the petition against the present sitting member had failed in their object. The object of this bill was to re-open the inquiry, and to do that which the committee had failed to accomplish. The bill had, however, gone the wrong way to work. It proposed to establish a tribunal of three commis sioners with inquisitorial powers and in total defiance of the constitutional privileges and liberties of the subject. lie would appeal confidently to the legal advisers of the crown to state whether a tribunal so constituted was a con stitutional tribunal ? What was the precedent fur this bill? Not the Sudbury viep, though it had been 10 asserted at first. There was no prevalent to be found, except at a period of the history of this country when we ought not to resort fur precedents at all. Ho would call attention to the petition that had been presented on the 17th of the present from Mr. Gresham, of St. Albans, a member of the Society of Gray's Inn, and a respectable solicitor, well known in the prior...ion of the law, and also a voter in the borough, and therchire a man interested in the question which it had lseeu confessed had not yet been tried by the committee. Gresham said in his petition that, as he had been informed and believed, Henry Edwards had been fur years post actively concerned in bribing electors and in purchasing votes fur money in the borough That petitioner believed that a full investigation could not be hail without the elamination of the said !leery Edwards, and that the disgrace and ignominy attached to the electors of the borough could never be ebliterateil or removed until the said Henry Edwards be examined, or if he was allowed to withdraw himself from the jurisdiction of the house. Let the house cousider the position of Mr. Gresham, as an elector of the borough, stigmatised with others by the re port of the committee. Surely Mr. Gresham felt this ignominy, and that he, with the other honest electors of the borough, was disgraced ; and surely it could not he denied that he and those others ought to have the opportunity of Acing examined before the commissioners, and stating what they kuew of this Mr. Henry Edwards and his coadjutors. But it would be purely in the discretion of the commissioners whether or rod Mr. Gresham would be allowed to utter a syllable before them. Would any man say it was deceit or e insistent with the rights of the honest part of the electors of St. Albans that a commission with such powers should be constituted ? Ile said fearlessly that it was unconstitutioual and unprecedented. Mr. Gresham had stated that he was of whig politics, and he did not wish to take an open part against this bill, or in opposing the government; but if the house wished to guard the liberties of the people they would not invest any act of commissioners with the power of proceeding ex pane and with no proper judicial functions to perform; because no judicial functions could be exercised unless the accuser and defender were before the tribunal. The boo. chairman of tae committee had avowed that he was not a lawyer, hut that he had framed the bill under the advice of the law officers of the crown. That being so it was a pity those lion. and learned gentlemen were not present to explain th. ir pirt in the drawing of the bill. The measure aunulled not only the professional privilege, but every other privilege, and put the commissioners be yond all the rules by which BUCII pruceed lap had always berm regulated. Ile hoped that his hon. friend would divide the house. The people of England ought to kris v how many members were present, and who they were who voted for such a measure as this. The house then divided For the third reading For the amendment l6 —2l The bill was then real a third time and passed. NEW BILLS. ..... Mr. BOUV ERIE mired for and obtained leave to bring la the four following .—I. Bill to continue an act to amend the laws relating to loan societies. 2. Bill to con- Unite an set for authorising the application of highway rates to public roods. 3. Bill to continue the exemption of inhabitants from liability to be rated us such in respect of stock in trade. 4. Bill for further continuing certain tem porary provisions ruucerning ecclesiastical jurisdiction in k:ntdrand. The above bills were severally rend a first t:me, and or dered to be read a getout! time on 31unday. The house then suspended its sitting at a quarter before two o'clock until five. T 1 w house re-assembled at 5 o'clock. NAVAL llETlltliM ENT. _ _ ......... Sir DE L. EVANS begged to ask the First I.ord of the Admiralty whether the following descriptions of service were intended to count in completion of the six years' cum. sand of rated ships afloat proposed to be required for being on the active hat in the new scheme of naval retirement— VIA.: 1. Service on the coast guard under the Treasury. 2. As superintendents iP hospitals and victualling yards. 3. As superintendents of packet service. 4. As commanders of ships in ordinary, not being sea-going ships, though no miludly in commission Sir F. DARING replied that it was intended the service ou the coast guar.' .could count, but that in the other de• partmenta to which the hon. and gallant member referred it should not. LAND TAX. Mr. STANFORD asked theChaucellor of the Exchequer whether it was the intention of her 3loje.ty*, government, ' having, by a recent ileci.ion in the courts of sw, judicial authority for an equoli-ition of the land no in all dial 14011A, to introduce some general measure for putting the land tan on a fair and equitable footing, it bring ascer tained, by careful calculation., that an equal pound rate to be hoed at lid. in the pound, and excluding the redeemed portion. would produce un incmse to the revenue of ut least 1,000,000/. a year. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the legal decision to which the host, member had referred gate certain powers to the consmiasioacrs which they might, it they thought proper. coercive. It was not at present in• tended by government to introduce a measure on the sub ject. BRITISH MUSEUM. Mr. HUME had to ask the right hon. gentleman (Sir G. Orcy) whether any arrangements had been made, or were making, for carrying out the recommendation of the royal commwhm as to the future management of the British Museum by a small executir, hoard Sir U. OBEY replied that uo measures had been taken to carry oat the recommendations of the royal commission as to the management of the Museum in future by a small executive beard. Mr. HUME felt himself e died upon t 3 protest against the way iu which such institutions were managed, and par ticularly when the public money was regularly Toted for their support. WOODS, rouEsis, &c., BILL. Viscount Dt NCAN wished to know from the noble lord at the head of the government whether it was his inten tion to take the committee on this bill that evening, and if ant, whether he would name an early day on which the discussion on the bill might take place. lard J. RUSSELL did not intend to bring on the Wo ids and k'orests Bill that evening, and could out at that time name the day when it would conic on. FINANCIAL MEASURES. Sir DE L. It \SS having put a question to the hon. member for Buckinghamshire, with regard to the resolu tions of which be had given notice, Mr. DISRAELI said, I understand the hon. and gallant gentleman to e tuire the rut:a:tin; of the resolutions which I hare put on the table of the hour. What I intend, if the oppatuoity be aft oiled me, is to more these resolutions 'on Monday next. On thet day, if I eujoy that occasion, I will, with th e utonat be. city I eau com man d, explain the se resolutions to the lion. and gallantgentlenum. (Laughter.) Lard J. RUSSELL stat:d that it was the intention of eau-lament to proceed with the Customs Bill and the nous.. Tait Bill on Monday neat. Ile understood there was an amendment to be pureed on the Customs Bill. Was lie correct in kis impression that the bon. member for Buckinghamshire intended to propose his resehrtioos on the House Tax Bill ? Mr. DISRAELI said his hon. friend the member for Iluntingibitshire had given notice of an amendment in re f-enlace to the Customs Bill, and it would not. therefore, be for him (Mr. Disraeli) to brim: on his umenclinent, except un the second huancial measure of the aocernment, and of course the noble lord war quite correct in thinking that bids (Mr. Disraeli's) resolutions would be brought Forward OR the House Tax Bill. iiii773OARD OF FISHERIES, Mr. ANDERSON pen notice of a motion on this sub ject. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BILL. IIefEBSIINELV rive nodes that on the third read ing of A►.EcelwAAied Then Ateeetepties WI Ise Weald ve s t i O b e llsig s a t : t t e elsz ipe ty di a ff n elins is fres the ewno of sad Om in the event of the new clause to he wield then move the exclusion of the meld disuse ken the bill. MEGISTRATION OF ASSURANCES BILL. On the notion of Sir 0. GRIT this bill was read a first time, and the second reading was axed for Friday fortnight. SCHOOLS SITES BILL. Sir G. GRETixoS;iati first reading of this bill, which was agreed to. .'lllO second reading was fixed for Tuesday next. DANISH CLAIMS. On the question that the house go into committee of r. ROEBUCK. rose to move a resolution on the sub ! 4/et of the Danish claims. Ile wished to ascertain from the Chancellor of the Exchequer the grounds on which he ob jected to these claims. By Danish claims he did not mean foreign claims, but the claims on the part of British mer chants for the loss they had sustained in 1807, in conse quence of the conduct of the British government. At that time England had been desirous of striking a blow at the power of Napoleon, and in order the more effectually to manage that point, every means had been taken to prevent English merchants from understanding what the govern ment were about to do. The merchants had been solicited to go to the Baltic. They had asked if they would be safe in going there, and they had received assurances that they were perfectly safe. A large number of them proceeded to the Baltic under that impassion, and a considerable amount of property had been sent to the Baltic and to Denmark. cry soon after the fleet had been sent to the Baltic, and on the 14th of August the troops were landed under Lord Cathcart and Admiral Gambier, and Copenhagen was bombarded. An embargo had been then laid on Danish vessels, and no Danish vessel was allowed to depart from an English port. In the mouth of November too, of the same year, England chase to con fiscate all the property, on which the embargo had been laid, This property, which had amounted to about three millions, had been taken by the crown, and had not been distributed as prize money, as would have been the casa had there been at this time a regular declaration of war. The Danish government had then retaliated, and had con fiscated the property of English merchants, and respecting that property he (Mr. Roebuck) now appealed to the honour and justice of the house of Commons. The property thus seized had been divided into three separate parts, property on shore, book debts, and property a fl oat. The two first had been paid, but the last had not. Ships floating an the waters appeared to be peculiarly matters of prey, and England had, it ap peared, considered she was not bound on any principle of international law or common justice to pay her own subjects for the loss they had in this matter sustained. Ile held that from the circumstance of the English government having deceived their own merchants, they were bound to make good the loss. These claims had been adjudicated upon, and they amounted to 221,000/. Ile now asked the house simply to adhere to their former decision, and say that the mer chants who lost their property ought even at this late hour to he paid. The hon. and learned gentleman concluded by moving, " That on Wednesday next this house will resolve itself into committee to consider an address, praying that her Majedy will be graciously pleased to take into consideration the report bearing date the 12th of May, 1810, made by the committee to whom it was referred, to examine into the claims of certain British subjects for losses sustained by the seizure and confiscation of their ships and cargoes in 1807, by Denmark; and that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to advance to the said merchants the amount of their losses, the house assuring her Majesty that they will make good the same." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER resisted the motion, orguituz that no ground had been shown for burdening the people of this country with a sum of 2Li,0001. to make gaol claims for which there wns no foun dation. The real question was, whether at the time the seizure was made by the Danes war existed or not; and he showed that the actual existence of war was avowed by the goecrnment of Denmark on the Pith of August, 1807, whereas the that seizure had not been made until a week afterwards. Under these circumstances, the act hiving been e- in acemslance with the of civilised ... entirely .._ cuitont nations the claims could not be entertained. Colonel SIBrIIOIIP supported the motion. He said it was nev^.r too late to just. Several governments had refused the, claim• before, and each government supported the other its continuing to refuse them, on the prmeiple of " You aerates me, and I will scratch you." (Laughter.) The pious= then divided: For the motion Against it 126-77 SUPPLY. The house then went into committee of supply. The first vote was ;1,130. fur the expenses of the foreign department. After a few observations front Mr. Wit.u.tais and Mr. Hunt:, who complained of the largeness of one of the item•, 2:1,1kX)/. for Queen's messengers and extra couriers, the vote was agreed to. The next vote was .53,600/., for Privy Council-office and Board of Trade. Mr. said he had been anxious to bring lallere the house the conduct of the colonial department r .petting Demerara, having been a member of a committee up stairs wind' recommended several reforms, and having presented a petition two months ago from that colony, complaining that government did not extend to them the principles of self-government. It was a notorious fact that the colonial department was at variance with every one of our colonies. Ile wished to know whether anything had been done with regard to Demerara? Mr. lIAWES said he believed there had been a consi derable extension of the suffrage in Demerara, and it was mainly to that point to which the committee to which the honourable gentleman referred directed its attention. Ile had always understood, and the house had recognised the distinction, that where there _„. were two races, a coloured race and a white race, the former of which had long been subject to the latter, it was not ex pedient to give great political power to the coloured race. Besides the extension of the franchise, there hail been a large reduction of expenditure, which was anotha. of the points to which the committee directed its attention. Both these important measures had been carried out with great ability by the present governor. As the colony progressed in intelligence, it might be desirable to extend the franchise more to the coloured population, but in their present state he was not inclined to iuvest them with an overwhelming share of political power. Mr. ACME said he would bring the matter before the house in the fullest manlier possibl, at the earliest moment. Mr. W. WILLIAMS complained there was a continuous increase in the expenditure under this particular head. Mr. LABOCCIIEIIE admitted there was, but contended that it was unavoidable. In reply to a question put by Mr. II ustg, Mr. LAIIOUCIIEItE replied it would not be advisable the merchant seaman registering. It was considered ex pedient to trace the seaman, and he knew no better possible manlier than that which at present existed. Mr. 111:ME observed that the seamen of the United States were furnished with certificates of citizenship. Therefore, he contended they were placing the British sea man on a ditferent footing, much to iris discontent; and for I that reason he was in favour of reducing the vote. After a few words from Capt. lIISURIS Mr. LABOUCHERE, in reply to Mr. Hume, admitted that the system was open to objection. But the Mercantile Marine Bill, whilst cheeking, would facilitate the system of registration, rail render it more correct than before. Sir U. I'ECIIELL thought it far better that they should rely on good treatment towards their seamen, increasing their pay as also their comforts, for the maiming of their fleets in time of war than to any system of registration. After a few words front Mr. Trelawney, Mr. Henley, Mr. Labouchere, and Mr. Hume, Sir J. GRAHAM said that when he introduced the measure for the registration of seamen 17 years ago, he re prated it ea subsidiary to other.ineasures, and as a means of getting rid of the objectionable system of impressment. lle had contemplated a measure for that purpose, but his atten tion being confined to another department he bad not had the opportunity to mature it. lle considered a well arranged system of registration of seamen absolutely necessary, the more so since the repeal of the navigation laws. The vote was then agreed to. 2,000/., salary of the Lord Privy Seal. After a few words from Mr. W. WILLIAMS and the CHANCELLon of the Exenriaera in reply, Mr. LICME suggested that the Lord Privy Seal might exercise a sort of surveillance over the courts of justice, and act as a minister of justice. Such en office would be worth a much higher salary. Lord J. RUSSELL said that duties of that kind would b • much better discharged by the Lord Chancellor thus any other minister. Hitherto his duties had been so ex tremely onerous that he could not spare time for the pur pose ' but by the bill recently brought in it was hoped tic it the Lor d Chancellor would be able to perform that class of duties which had been pointed out by the late Lord Lang dale as necessary. Mr. HOME aid not think tort Lord Chancellor ought to be called on to perform those duties. New courts were about to created, and it would be most important that they should be properly superintended. Mr. BRIG H protested aitainst these votes after the evi dence taken by the committee on official salaries last year. now that the pressure was in a degree withdrawn, the uoblo lord declined to effect the reduction, reeumntended. This held out no inducement to hon. members to act on select Lord J. Hl' SSE LL said he had adopted many of the re commendations of that cummi:tee, perhaps more than his own judgment approved. He believed that the reduction lof 4,000'. or 6.0007. a year which had been made would be a loss to the country. Mr. BRIGHT said there were three of Lord Privy Seal, the Master of the Mint, and the Paymaster of the korces—whose duties were notoriously small. Lord J. RUSSELL said the ottlee of Paymaster of the Farces had been united with that of Vice-President of the Board of Trade, and the two were held by Lord Granville. After some further conversation the vote was agreed to. The vote was agreed to. 21,7001. salaries and eantingvnt expense's of the office of Paymaster-General. After a brief explanation from the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in answer to questions from Mr. Mune and Mr. W. William., the tote was agreed to. 6,1791., salaries and expenses in the department of the Comptroller-General of the Exchequer. Colonel SIBTHOILP complained of a uoble lord is another place (Monteagle) being " pitcliforked " into this sinecure, fur which he received 2.0001. a year. Ile He should propose an address to her Majesty, praying that the office should be abolished. 1 MX. JiI:ME &liked it any regulations had been laid down THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY -EVENING, JUNE 27, 1851. to prevent the recurrence of inch frauds as had taken place in this department The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied in the affirmative, and the vote was agreed to. 2,7001., for salaries and expenses of the State-paper Office. After a conversation between Mr. Hein and Mr. C. Lewis, Mr. EWART stated that a catalogue of the state-papers was in preparation. Lord J. RUSSELL stated that the papers to which this vote referred had been in course of collection since the time of Henry VIII., and were very valuable. It was principally for their arrangement that this vote was re quired. The vote was then agreed to. 2,2301., part of the expenses of the Ecclesiastical Commis sioners for England. Ou the vote of 2,2301. for the expenses of the ecclesiastical commissioners of England, Mr. WILLIAMS said that he had always opposed this vote, and would divide the house against it on the present occasion. Mr. TRELAWNY also opposed it. Sir G. GREY said that the commission was not asked fur by the church, but was rather imposed upon the church by parliament. Colonel SIBTHORP hated the very name of commissions, awl would support Om hon. member for Lambeth if he di- I Tided the house. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the hon. and gallant mem b2r seemed to mistake the object of the commission in the present instance, which was to make the funds at their dis posal as much as possible available in order to meet the spiritual wants of the community. He did not believe that the hon. and gallant member would object to that. Col. SIBTIIOItP said that remembering how the noble lord had acted towards the church on former occasions he could place no confidence in the professions with regard to it. ILL' Air. ME believed that if the property in the hands of the church had been administered by responsible persons 100,0001. might be saved to the public, for he maintained thatchurch property was public property. lie wished to know from the noble lord on what principle the right honourable gentleman the member for Cam br ides university (Mr. Goulburn) was entitled to draw 1,0001. as one of the commissioners when he had already a pension of 2,000/., the law being that where a public officer, in receipt of a public pension, was appointed to another situation, the pension should merge in the salary attached to the situation. In the present in stance the pension was greater than the salary, but he thought that the right hon. gentleman was not entitled to more than the 2,000/. a year, and that the other 1,0001. ought to be saved to the public. Lord J. ItUSSEI.L said that by the act of parliament of last year three commissioners were to be appointed—two by the crown and one by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Earl of Chichester and Mr. Shaw Leferre were ap pointed by the crown, and the right hon. gentleman, the marcher tor the univerity of Cambridge, was nominated 'by the Archbishop of Canterbury. The pension which the right hon. gentleman received was due to him in con sequence of having performed certain services fur a certain period of time as one of the officers of the state ; and the 1,0001., which he received as ecclesiastical commissioner was given under an act of parliament for duties to he per formed, which duties, he presumed, the right hon. gentle man satisfactorily discharged. Mr. HUM E thought a fraud was committed on the pub lic, because church property was, in his opinion, public property. After a brief conversation, Lord J. RUSSELL tail the vote in the present instance was for a sum of money to carry on civil business in regard to certain arrangements in the elisirch which parliament said it was necessary to make. If tin', were a commis,ion fur carrying out reforms in the Court of Chancery or in the court, of common law no person would say that the ex pens, should be borne out of the salaries of any persons in these court,. Mr. BRIGHT thounht that the noble lord bad failed in the application of Iti4 arguments. The eommi,bion was for the improvement of the property of the church or England. lk hoped the noble lord would givo a more satisfactory answer. Mr. JAI SMITH thought that the church property was very badly managed. A secretary had run away with no We= than 10,010/. of it. The hon.: divided— For the vote Against it The vote was then ngr•ed tn. On the vote of 211,400/. for the poor-law commission of England, Scotland, and Ireland, After a few words front Col. Dunne, Sir W. Somerville, and Mr. Clements, Mr. REIM/LDS felt justified in proposing that the consideration of the vote should be postponed. The CHAIRMAN said it was not competent to the hon. gentleman to move the postponement of the vote. Ile would have an opportunity of negativing it. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he did not consider that a proper time fur entering into a defence of the poor-law sys tem in Ireland, though he had no doubt that when an op portunity arose he would he able to make out a ewe which would satisfy the house, if not the hon. member for Dublin. Mr. REYNOLDS said if it were not competent to hire to move the postponement of this vote he should not divide the house, because he wu not prepared to negative the entire vote. Mr. 111, SIP. thought that as regarded the payment of medical otfleem Ireland ought to Is: Oared on the 'mute footing no England. Again, he found in the vote a charge of 29,i/00 1 . fir sehoolin inters and schoolmistres:es for Eng land ; but ho believed there was no ouch charge on account of Ireland. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that, in reply to a question which was put to him last year, he stated that in ISM certain charges were laid on the revenue of this country, which were supposed to he compensations for the loss., entailed by the changes in the corn law. (Laughter.) If hon. gentlemen referred to the accounts they would hod that the taxes of the United Kingdom fur the constabulary police amounted to 580,0001., and far more than the proportionate charge was on account of Ireland. As regarded education he mint observe that the educational vote for that year was 150,0001. for England and 131,000/. for Ireland; and, considering the relative amounts of the population in the two countries, he did not think the sister country had any reason to complain. The loan of 301,0001. was granted last year to enable certain unions in Ireland to pay off debts to contractors, and in the appendix to the report there was a list of the unions to which the advances were made. Sir It. FERGUSON believed that if Ireland paid her ono share for the constabulary the amount would be vory much reduced. Mr. ILENLEY wished for explanation with regard to the reduction of the vote of 13,0001. to 20,0001. for educa tion in union workhouses. There were between six and seven hundred unions in this country ; and 20,0001. gave but al/. a year for the schoolmaster and sehoohnistress of each union, in addition to lodgings and rations. Mr. DAISES could assure the hon. member that no one was more sensible than he was of the importance of im proving workhouse education. lie was happy to say that some improvements were in progress, and that others were contemplated. The lion. member was mistaken in sup posing that there was in reality any reduction in the amount proposed for the salaries of schoolmasters and _sees schoolmistresses. No more than 20,0001. had been ex pended in any past year, though the Treasury had asked for 34,0091. He (Mr. Baines) would not consent to any re ductions, believing that the schoolmasters and school mistresses were, as a class, exceedingly ;useful, and that they were by no means overpaid. 'l•he more he considered the subject of education the more lw felt the necessity of advancing it by every means in their power, and he could assure the house that in his hands it should not be neglected. After some remarks from Cul. ktawdou, Mr. Ewart, and Mr. Baines, Mr. G. A. HAMILTON stated that, according to the last published return, there were 219,000 persons in the work • houses of Ireland, and that of that number 103,000 were chil dren under the age of three years. Under these circumstances he helievcal the great difficulty of Ireland was Willa to do with these children. How were they to be hest brought up ? Ilu thought that there ought to be some attempt made to give these children an industrial education. Mr. 11006 lilt said a complaint existed in the county which he represented that the hoard of guardians were too much controlled by the inspectors, when it was considered they were quite well qualified to manage their own affairs. The farmers were now directing their attention to the ne cessity of teaching the paupers, both young and old, some industrial occupation as the best means of modifying the evil effects of poverty, and this matter he thought ought to be taken up with carnestnes.s by the Poor-law Bo ad. Mr. M. 01PERICALL wished an explanation iu rc f.•rence to the poor law accounts. It appeared that 1,430,000/. was the poor law expenditure of Ireland. Of this 5un5...431,0001. was spent for the maintenance of the paupers, and the balance was paid for wages and other expenses. These "other expenses" amounted to 417,000/., and he wished to know what these other expenses were. Sit W. SOMEttVILLE was not able to state of what tiles., expenses consisted ; but if the hon. member wished for information on any points and moved for it he would take care that it should be furnished. Idr. M. O'FEILRALL s.ud thatt e present was the only opportunity they possessed of gaining information of hue kind, and these returns ought to be nude intelligible. Sir li. W. BARRON said the Chancellor of the Excite quer had stated that the condtahulary charged in Ireland were defrayed by government , in consid erat i on o f the alio litiou of the corn iaws. Now, he could not allow the °ppm tunity to pass without protesting against such u paltry sum being anything like an equivalent for the ruin brought on Ireland by the abolition of these laws. Mr. REYNOLDS said the explanation of the Chancellor of the Exchequer had not satisfied him. Mr. lICME considered that Ireland should be placed on the same footing as England. Mr. COWAN wished some information as to the state of the Mishima& and islands of Scotland. Sir 0 OREY promised that the report of Sir J. M'Neill should be laid on the table as soon as passible. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to Mr. Cleutents who thought sonic of the fig ures very on satisfactory, sai d the amount f or th e purposes of emigration had been paid out of the rate in aid. After mu,. fualier conversation, The vote was agreed to. The next vote was 47,000/. fur defraying the expenditure of the Mint. Mr. IILML asked en what grounl the estimate for coin ing more gold was made ? 'Esc CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that a c,rtain quantity of li4 , tt sovereigns were from time to time returned to the Mint, and it was necessary to repl.tea them occasionally by the issuing of new sovereigns. The cost of the coiaage was, as stated in the estimate, one-third per Dent: He believed that the new system would come into operation in the course of a few weeks. The vote was then agreed to. The next vote was 8,0621. fur defraying the charges of the Commissioners of Railways. Mr. W. WILLIAMS observed that there was an increase this year to a small amount. Mr. LABOUCHERE said them was in the estimate 1,5001. for the salary of a commissioner. Before the end of the session it would be his duty, in accordance with the recommendation of the committee on salaries, to bring in a bill for the purpose of reuniting this department to the Board of Trade. Upon consulting Mr. Booth, one of the secretaries to the Board of Trade, be found that he was willing to give his assistance in the way department in addition to his present onerous duties. Therefore, though he put the whole sum of 1,5001. in the estimate it would not be all wanted. He should propose that the new system should conic into operation at the end of September. In asking Mr. Booth to undertake this additional duty he felt it his duty to pro pose an ;increase in his salary, and he should therefore propose in another session of parliament, if he had the honour of being then President of the Board of Trade, that Mr. Booth's salary be increased from 1,500/. to 2,0001., thereby leaving the saving to the public in the rail way department of 1,0001. a-year. In reply to a question from Mr. llcus, regarding par liamentary trains, Mr. LABOUCHERE said this department had frequent complaints made of railway companies in this particular, and they were always investigated. Mr. BOOK ER said he had heard with great pain that the railway department was about to be reunited to the Board of 'frade. The safety and convenience of the public repaired that they should be distinct. lle hoped this de cision would be reviewed. Mr. HUME hoped the government would not alter their ..... The vote was then agreed to. The next vote was for 11,9001. for the care and manage nvnt of public records, which was agreed to. The next vote was 14,5831., to defray the expenses of in spectors of mines and factories, which, after a brief conver sation, was agreed to. ' The next vote proposed was of 1,7(101. for salaries of officers in Scotland and other charges tormerly paid from the hereditary revenue. Mr. W. WILLIAMS objected to the items of this vote. What did her Majesty want with a " limner," a •' clock maker," or an " historiographer ?" Ile particularly ob jected to the item " the Queen's plate to be run for at Edin ' burgh," "The Caledonian hunt," and "The itoyal Company of Scottish Archers." Ile moved that the sums for the three last be disallowed, which would reduce the I , vote by 2171. The amount was certainly small; but the principle involved was of importance. Mr. C. LEWIS—Those offices and these grants were of very old date; and he thought it would be unfair to strike out tho vote now. Mr. HOME thought that these alramlities had existed too long, and ought to be done away with. Mr. C. LEWIS.—The office of " cliwkmalter" was no sinecure. The person tilling that Mice had to attend to all the clocks at Holynaml. Mr. DISRAELI thought that the hon. member for Lam beth, when lie spoke of a principle, ought to explain what the principle involved in this case really was. (Dear, hear.) The committee had to look to the origin of these grants. They were grants formerly paid out of the hereditary re venue of the crown. Parliament had made a certain ap rangement with the crown, by which the: crown gave up its hereditary revenue, parliament undertaking all the charges with which that revenue was burthened. In point of fact, therefore, this was not to be regarded as a vote out of the public taxes. Mr. W. WILLIAMS denied the correctness of the argu ment. ller Majesty got a civil list of 355,0091. a year ; and ' he believed that since her Majesty's auession the lands and estates of the crown had not produced so much as 1:10,0001. a soar. Nobody made now any objection to the amount of the civil list , or to the cost of all her Majesty's palaces, yachts, &c. But if her Majesty required such things as were mentioned in this vote, she oiLtlit to pay for them. I No Queen's plates were given in England. lie would vote against all such grunts. Mr. MOORE begged to inform the hon. member that at least 25 Queen's plates were given in England, at u cost of 2,400/. This showed the rashness and the whit of informs tion of the hon. member. (blear, hear.) While granting these plates in England it would be most unfair to reftra, them to Scotland or Ireland. Mr. W. WILLIAMS had only said that he would vote against Queen's plates for England. Sir IL INGLIA had understood the hon. member to make the po•ioivc statement that no Queen's plates were granted in England. 1k thought the discussion on this vote was altogether of an improper character. The dig nity of the crown ought not to be cornmomised by persons who were capable of little more than putting twenty sea tences together. Mr. W. WILLIAMS would not condesund to notice what had fallen from the bun. baronet. (Laughter.) The observations of the hon. baronet were impertinent. (Laughter, and cries of "Order.") Sir It. NGLIS appealed to the house if anything he had said then, or laud said on any former occasion since he had posues4tod a seat in that assembly, wai of a character to justify in any degree the language applied to him by the hon. member for Lainbeth. (Cheers.) If the hon. member would rite and apologise he would sit down—(the hon. baronet here paused, but Mr. Williams did not move) ; but if the hon. member would nut rise, be would tell the lion. nyanber that he woo not the man to tell him (Sir It. Inglis) that he was using impertinent language. (Cheers.) Mr. W. WILLIAMS withdrew, as a matter of course, whatever expression he had used which was inconsistent with the rules of the house. He had understood the hon. baronet to insinuate that he (Mr. William-) could not string twenty sent: acca togetlicr—(Sir 11. high: here denied that he had said so)—and in the heat of the moment he might have used improper language. There was not a gentleman in the house fur whom he had a greater respect than he hid thy the hon. baronet, and he should be must sorry to hurt his Co...dings in any way. Sir It INGLIS acknowledged the kindless of the hon. member, and hoped that the subject would drop. Mr. ACME, who objected to the vote, thought it was a great pity that they should be quarrelling among one an other. (Laughter and cheers.) Lord J. RUSSELL uuderstonl the hon. member for Lambeth to suggest that parliament had made a lead bar gain with the crown. He would not dispute whether the crown had done wisely in making that bargain; but he thought it scarce fittio , that parliament should interfere in this CAW with the liberality of the crown. The grunt of ISO to Mr. Brodie, a man of considerable literary eminence, could not be considered too great. (Hear, hear.) Mr. \V. WILLIAMS contended that the plates for Ire land and Scotland ought to come out of the civil list as well as the others. 'llw committee then divided : Fur the amendment Against it 162-123 The vote was then agreed to. 6,41311., salaries of the oaken of the household of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. Mr. ItUME moved that the vote be reduced by 1,5711., the item fur Queen's plates." Mr. W. WILLIAMS wished for an explanation of the item, "two gentlemen at large 140/. a year each." (Laughter.) It was right the public should know what were the duties of those gentlemen at large. lie should support the aineuilment of his hon. friend, not b. cause he grudged a single farthing paid to the crown, but i/eCUUS4, he thought the country ought no t t o b e called on to support horse racing. _ _ _ Alt.7:r a few words from Mr. Moults, Mr. BRIGHT said it would be impossible to justify the vote of this LW!. It would be just as proper fur the house to take Bela Life and look over the various amuse ments announced, and give a vote for killing nits. (Laugh ter.) Ile hoped these votes would be resisted as long as the)• were brought forward. After a few words from Colonel DUNNE and Colonel The CHANC...A.LOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped that a division would not he pressed, as there had already been a long discussion and a division un the same question. Mr. lIUME said he should press his amendment. Sir W. JOLLIFFE supported the vote on the ground that the shipment of horses was one of the beet trades that Ireland had, and these plates tended to encourage the breeding of horses. The committee then divided; For the amendment 4l) Against The vote was then agreed t o . 6,0451. were voted to defray the expenses of the office of Paymaster o, the Civil Services in Ireland. Oa the vote of 31,4311., to defray the salaries and ex penses of the Board of Public Works, Ireland, Mr. ANSTEY objected to the item of LIDO'. for salaries and travelling expenses of fishery commissioners. It was absolutely necessary to separate the inspection of fisheries from the duties of the Hoard of Works, and to establish an independent board of fishery inspection for Inland. The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCIIEQUEIt could not' consent to any such separation. After a few words from Colonel DUN, E and Mr. SCULLY, as to the necessity of creating an independent fishery in spection board for Ireland, Mr. 01100 AN begged to assure the 11011f0 that the quel -1 tion had taken a deep hold on the opinions of the people of l lreland, who wished to see their fisheries better managed than they were at present. Mr. HUME said that the Scotch people were most anxious to get rid of their fishery . boards. (Hear.) Mr. ANSTEY said that the Irish people did not want the fishery board, but if it was retained they desired it to be more independent of the Board of Works. 1 he sum of money pro posed to h , given W.'S too small and would be lxrfeetly useless. Lord NAAS said that if the present fishery board was kept up, he believed there would not be a salmon in Ire laud in tea years. (Hear, hear.) After a few words from Mr. 11. GUATTAN, Mr. REYNOLD:: complained of the extravagance of the board. He was not going to oppose the vote, - believing it would be useless to do so, although it was a mass of ex tr.Tightice. -- iiiTic.RORREYS bore his testimony to the extrava gance of the present board. He thought no subject was more deserving of inquiry. (Cheers.) The vote was then agreed to. The Chairman reported progress. On the order of the day for going into committee on the Court of Chancery and Judicial Committee (Annuity to Judges) Bill, Mr. STUART said the great cause of delay in the Court of Chancery was the want of a proper staff of registrars, and he hoped the government would direct their attention to that subject. Captain ARCIIDALL said he should move the adjourn ment of the house on account of the course pursued bv the government on Tuesday week last, which had the efft . et of preventing him from bringing forward a motion of which he had repeatedly given notice. Sir G. GREY assured the hon. and gallant gentleman he had no such intention as he imagined. lit would assent to his motion with a slight verbal alteration. After some further conversation, the amendment was withdrawn, and the house went into committee. ~ --. A resolution was passed, "That a sum not exceeding 3,7501. be granted to any judge of the Court of Appta in Chancery . who shall resign his office." The hill then went through committee. LANDLORD AND TENANT BILL. In comin-ittee—O;il7i;bill kr:/iNgfiimovediiie insertion of a claw,: enacting that the bill should not extend to Ireland, stating that his intention in doing so was to prevent the landlord front ac quiring the power of distraining growing crop:. Mr. NAPIER saw no reason why such a bineficial mea sure should not be extended to Ireland. The hill did nut effect any change in the law as to the liability of grow ing crops. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL would be very trilling to accept of the beneficent provisions of the bill, but eme.idered thut the law would be altered to the worse as regarded the sell ing of crops under execution. Mr. HATCRELL said the bill did not interfere with tho law in Ireland regarding the right of distraining on crops. After a few words front Mr. ANSTEY, who withdrew his motion, the bill was read a third time and passed. POLITICAL EXILES Mr. ANSTEI moved for copies of all communicaCons received from the Lieutenant Governor of Van Diemen's Lind, and not already printed by order of this house, on the subject of the revocation of the tickets of leave lately held by the state prisoners Messrs. M`Manus, ('Doherty, and O'Donoliue, their subsequent imprisonment and treat ment at Port Arthur, the proceedings taken by any of them to obtain their discharge from such imprisonment, with the result of such proceedings, and the measures taken by his Excellency Sir William Deni , on in consequence thereof ; and of all l.•tters addressed to his Excellency by Earl Grey upnn the said matters. Mr. HAWES opposed the motion on the ground that legal proceedings were pending in reference to these mat ters. When the proper time came there would be no objec tion to produce the papers. After a few words from Mr. M. J. O'Cossigt.t., the mo tion was negatived. The house adjourned at a quarter pert one o'clock. Zite ervreoo. TO CORRESPONDENTS. 4 Feiner! Edition if " The Flares'," antennae • he nine erraii,gi g ;strife," is published every Tuesday an I Friday night, iu nos for post. 4ureruw<•mea'i intended foe "The Express," London Evening nes, must be at trot Wee*, lu, iloarsrte•straet, by Two ~ v oce OS the day of publication. lIIGR WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE ibis Dbr—Morning, 12b. t2n, Afterbogw. I2n. 3e r. To4boyauw—Morning. 120. 5& Allerboun, In. :3a.. LONDON, FRIDAY, JUNE 27. ME leading organ of continental reaction in this country would fain have it believed that the new propositions of Denmark with regard to the Duchies meet with entire acquiescence in Schleswig, and :tro likely to encounter no very serious opposition in Holstein. The evidence which is offered in support of this somewhat marvellous assertion consists in rho nets and deeds of a sort of extemporised privreouwil, dignified by the name of an Assembly of Notables, which has been summoned to meet at Flensburg, there to hear and discuss the proposals laid before it by, the cabinet of Copenhagen. A majority of this 80i-disont diet has pronounced in favour of tho novel scheme for settling the succession to the crown and determining the nature of the connexion which shall in future subsist between the three component states of the monarchy. What is the value of such an approval ? And what does it imply? To correct the erroneous impression which a pre. tensions misnomer is calculated to create, it is hardly necessary to do more than state that the assembly whose sanction is thus ostentatiously re corded, is nothing more than a committee of 21 re spectable gentlemen named by the Ktug from his loving and unloving subjects of Denmark and the Duchies. The proportions from each are protiAseilly equal ; but as the nominees from Schleswig have all of them been taken from the Danish party there, they constitute, along with the royalist representatives of Denmark itself; an effectual preponderance of two to one over those of Holstein. lladthere beenany Danes to be found in the latter, no doubt they would have been favoured with this mars of dynastic confidence. As it is, the eight Holsteiners may, we presume, ho taken as the best specimens to be had of Teutonic pliability to the wishes of an Mien court and donti mint race. Yet we learn that the whole of this, tho only German section of the " Assembly of Notables," entered from the outset their earnest protest against the propositions fur absorption and clump of the succession. To the latter point attention has been primarily directed. The claims of the Duke of AniusrEN- Beno are said to be forfeited by the attainder pronounced against him in consequence of the part he has borne in maintaining the rights of his family. IVitlt what justice or regard to public law this for feiture is assumed, we shall not stop to inquire. Enough that it is so, and that the pretensions of the Duke of OLDENBERG, for which so many swords and pens have hitherto been engaged, are with equal tint ! , fmid put altogether aside, in order to make way for a new successor to the childless King. A boy of eight years old, the young Duke of Giurks. BERG, has suddenly become the favourite of Danish diplomacy ; and in assertion of the right divine of this collateral "issue of a King," that is to "bear upon his baby brow the round and top of sove reignty," the great powers of Europe, we use gravely assured, are quite prepared formally to join. We shall be slow in believing that even Russia has given any intimation of her readiness to become a recognising party to an arrangement that bears on its front so little the character of stability or rea son. Russia has her own separate and selfish views respecting the Danish succession ; but a project like the present is one which, were she to acquiesce in to-day, she would to-morrow find ready excuses for discarding as inadequate to provide for the safety and good order of the state. France is still less likely, we are persuaded, precipitately to give tho weight of her guarantee to a scheme that must be looked upon throughout Germany with detestation or derision. Its sole purport and aim appears to be the affected annulling of the claims of the House of Augustenberg, the branch of the royal family round which the hopes and sympathies of whatever is royalist in Holstein will continuo instinctively to cling. In the event of the reigning sovereign of Denmark being removed by death, at any period within the next dozen years, a war of the succession would be specially invited by the help less incompetency of the infant heir to the crown. Regencies are sufficiently trying to the rationalistic faith of modern times in monarchy, even under circumstances the most favourable to the perilous experiment. But when to the feebleness and inefficiency of such an administra tion is added the rancour and resentment of rival claims, and when to all this is superadded the deep rooted enmities of races arrayed under the hostile pretenders to a legitimate title, it is impossible to conceive a state of things more inevitably doomed to distraction and civil conflict. France can have no inducement to prepare such elements of couibustion in Northern Germany. As an intelligent power mho cannot fail to foresee its obvious impracticability ; as a free state she cannot wish to concede this new triumph to the evil influence of Austria. As for England, we are persuaded that nothing can less enter into the contemplation of the parlia ment or people of this country, than any partieipa : tion in so stupid and reactionary a project. Every leaning of the liberal party in Great Britain WILi towards the privileges and rights of the l/uchies during their recent struggle. If that struggle has been brought for the present to a termination by the interposition of Austrian force, we are not upon that account likely to be more disposed to behold with satisfaction the permanent imposition of terms on tho weaker party, which tht,v loathe, and would if they could resist. .We are not to be bamboozled by such barefaced pretences of fair play and free discussion as the sham assembly at Flens bturs ; and we can as little r e cognise the arbitrary disinheriting of the Augustenberg line, as the over reaching measures by which Gemutn opinion has been virtually set at naught in the mock discussion of the proposals. England has only one interest in the matter, namely, that of peace among her kins folk on the other side of the German sea. Hut as she knows that in tie present and the coming condi tion of Europe there can be no security for per manent peace where there is not popular content ment, it is and must be the interest of England to