The Express. — London, England, 1852-02-10 00:00:00

IMPERIAL - PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAY, Fu. 9. Their lordship, met at Eve o'clock. PETITION PRESENTED. Lord CAMPBEL,L presented • petition frees the haw theme of Ealing. praying for the enfranchisement of espy. bold tenures. %AMERY AT ELECTIONS. Lord lIIIVJOH AM said he believed that Use best way to extirpate bt ibery would be to make every member of parlia ment make • declaration that he bad not, by himself or by any Meet, given or premised any money or other valuable tares, or any influence or interference. to procure any plate OT pension or matter of value to the voter, and that he was ecitirely ignorant of Lay such gift or promise having been bade by any person on his behalf, and that he entirely dis believed that anything of the sort had been done ; and that he weak; hind hims. If on no account to pay, directly or in directly, anything, or to perform any promise which might have hem matte hy no) person on hi. behalf. If this were done, he did not think any man would make the declara tion who believed in his conscience that he could not do so honestly. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE admitted that no effec tual remedy had yet been discovered to check the offence of bribery at vlvetioul. The subject was one which, be assured the noble lord, had occupied the attention of the govern ment, and he had every reason to believe that • notice had been given that night in the other house of parliament with reference to it. (Meer.) Lord lIROU 0 RANI was extremely glad to hear the an. announcement. THE EAST INDIA COMPANY. The Earl of ELLENDOROULIII, at the request .t the Mergers of Lansdowne, consented to defer until next Must day the motion of which he had given linnet , , with reference to the E ist India Company, the President of the Dosed of Control nut bring in town. THE STATE OF IRELAND. The Earl of RODEN gave notice that he would, to-mor row, put a question to the government with reference to the melenehely state of the disturbed districts in the north of Ireland. If the answer which he might receive should prove unsatisfactory. he shield feel it his duty to bring the mate of the. port ut the emeatry ardor their lordships' con eiderstiow nx.voßm OF THE COMMON LAW. The teeltD CHANCELIAHt wished to move the second reading of the COMMAS Law Procedure Bill. This was one of the bilk which hail been mentioned in her Majesty's apee,eh, and was fowled on the reeemmeuelation of the com auwireeen, who bad well considered the reforms which ✓alets; be nor...lured into the prooedure of the common law. Trine lordships were, doubtlem, aware of the distinctions which stewed between that branch of the law by which eigtes were determined, and that branch which regulated the course of procedure by which these rights were Me caretnt fer litigation. The present bill belonged to the lat ter ler inch of toe law, and it was addressed te remedy those .detects and ellleieneies which were generally and with jus tiee coring oiled of. The present system of procedure ori giaand in 'emote penes& It was now inappropriate to, and euconsisemt with the changes of. the time in which we lived, and rt produced consequences precisely the oppo site of thee. which it. original framers intended. Origi nally, them was no such thing as written pleading in former times, but a system of oral pleading then canted. When a party breneht an action he came into court and stated his ease, and then the defendant', counsel either made an ob jection is point of form, or deputed the ease upon its merits. The objection if it were merely one of form, was derided instantly, and if the decision went against the platidiff, application to amend was made imme diately, and after each amendment was made the defend ant was celled Irma to answer the ease upon its merits. When the defendant had pleaded to the action and the objectiou of the plaiatill's counsel to that plea, if any were made, bad been taken down by an officer of the court, the pleadings were put in a proper shape, and the haw which the jury had to decide upon when the da of trial game was arranged. In later times, when the legal heisnr had so in creased, it was found impossible soy loaner to have a form ca end pleading. The declaration accordingly was prepared in writina, mut the defendant had time given him to an swer the allegations which it contained. It had frequently happened that when the objections to • deche ration were of a INTO formal nature, that those objections weru not argued and determined upon fur six or twelve months after the declaration had been died. That was oue of the great objections to the prevent system of procedure, for it frequently happened that • mere frivolous objection would cane. considerable delay. The ebeervetion with regard to the delay applied equally to the ulterior proceedings which were taken in • cause. Their lorddiipe would perceive how differently mere for mal objections were dealt with in times pest to what they were st present. In very early times all cases were tried in Westminster Hall, but in the reign of Henry I. • statute was pawed by which • circuit took place onee a year at in the reign of Edward ill, the statute was passe-el which had reference to the sittings at Nisi Priem, and the attires were directed to be held twice • year by that statute. Still, in form, the ease was apparently tried in Westminster, because the jury who belonged to the county in which the action was to be tried wen• summoned as if to attend in Westminster Hall; but they did nut attend, and were only actually summoned when the judo went the circuit. In the year 1846 there had been 146.000 writs issued ; 2 per cent of the whole were tried, 5 per cent. went as fir as the deelaraties, sad 7 per cent. never reached even that stage ' • so that la weld' of the Pots in which writs were issued the diorite wee set the! before the time arrived for entering an appeorance te a declaration. The vast majority of CAM fa Tait& writs were issued were for undisputed debts. The present bill sought to diminish the expense ocmaseted with the tether Mtge of a ewes. The present bill travelled through every stage of the snit._ It powded that when • writ was issued it shush eademiC white emisesemeet should state how mush was claimed he the debt sad hew much for costae thereby giving the diefeadeat nodes he an early part of the what was the ameteat dr pay ment of which he bud to to. If the delbadant did not appear to the Mira t was to be Wised upon the writ without dee espouse of • declaration, or den la. terfirestory jedgmeat, or a dual judgment, according to the nature of the sown. B the present state of thine the declaration gave •its se material inkemeeksee nod its abolition in them emir wield be no lam bug pea helical. The prone MN ten did away with Wltalld She jections, which their hoddipe were aware were set ammestaill In any way with Mr material points in the case. Them were aamrraaa oar otieetions, celled apeelid asu which maimed of althetioas taken at as osiellw m eg li A the ear. There we • statute whisk Wbum piped requipsi diet Mohninal ebould sioloi the farm ofaystialderivemr be begtmgionlo Oen any deranner whisk appal to the Noel media et dram. sueprow pyres grid domunao remoluel he= tbe pew Whet lbw were =dee were also slam mope in te e r did int hem W nitwit • agedoi dmee l lr a jwhieb might est be aotieed until the &hoard older moved in must of meat or for a writ of ewer, ad la this. awe be emus rep elm whole proceedings at the time when theipleistiF that he should get juries dons he., Mr peumerV would allow no writ of ewer within the abiestion woe in early stage of the 01111011. It we set to be lot • billed this extent could be framed to me to he lies dl *bp thong. The motive aka hitraimden we to mow much of that odium which belowed in the of the proceedure at MMUS hew, and he go far to secure that Lord LYNDHU draw remenoble mamma object to the bill being meg • eimend time. la be 'Quid not understand why sib sin* ureidoiey of dr • county courts could sot be applied to the esprier monte of 0301010111 law in ordinary eama, whore the prier Judges email decide them. , After • few weeds from Lord BaorostAte, The LORD CHANCELLOR said be we set aware of the coarse of proeeediag in the malty courts after the &- dainties had been Mei, hat he was certain that any re esamesdatiese er which might fall hum the feeble and learned I Lynethunt) would be received with newt and consideration by the public. FOREIGN REFUGEES IN ENGLAND. Eari ORAN VILLE, in answer to Lord Strangford, stated that Lord Palmerstoa had sent no reply to the remosatismees of eeetein foreign poems' to the political reforms weidiry in this country ; but be believed had that noble toed rce. mained in o 1 iets he would have given a similar reply es that which he (Earl Granville) had forwarded. THE CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL AND VTR PATENT LAW AMENDMENT. Lied LYNDHURST said he wished to call the attendee of the here to the sate of the banner which was now before it. In the House of Commons there were seven or eight important bills, wheels no doubt would become law during the present session ; whilst, with the 'emptiest of the bill relation to the amendment of the patent law, which had been read a second time that evening, there was not a single bill before the hoese. He begged su oak, therefore, whether his noble and learned friend on the woolsack could not introduce the Charitable Trusts Bill, and some noble lord on the ether side of the house the Patent Lew Am. ailment Bill, into their lordships' house, to prevent further lose of time? The LORD CHANCELLOR said the Patent Law Amendment Hill bad been prepared with great care, and no time would be lost in forwarding the bill. The Charitable Trusts Bill had pawed that house last seines, and had been fully iLicumed both upstairs and down, and it vim therefore deemed expedient to introduce it in the other house of par liament this amnion. After a few words from Lord 814017011 AN, The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said their lordships' strength was Is dealing with measures which ante up front the other boom ; and he tiNtlirblt their lordships would best consult their lotemets by enhabs to the old practice. Earl ORET mild net sins the noble earl. Thera was 119 doubt that the peogier of poring important ma • smug woo mash pater whoa dry we eimmeneed la the other home etpatilettent red frie that mum be mush regretted Met • bill totretWesk By the sale awl opposite, which premed through their lemildps' home. bad met with se little favour in the other beer of podiameat. He thought, bewaver, they would some is, the week of 120- lades tarried se without *kw. wall mew arronemest coeld be hit spas by white mamma which bed been tea. eitered is one asset.. to We Whor berme of t could Iv takes ap in the wt r irk • bowie. pow hew.) Be Wheel Oisre bad hins a inebeleal elgestio• he the bill whisk bed bees poegined by dr noble omA}j bet he did set ing that dry amid sof adept, by mom entiehelmy toed* et dialing, in trabillpult yaw, WWI meolunte whisk bed beet in lerree amdme Mkt the morihondou et indkireet. Plow i bzi ewis noir aril se s garlic puss f eft" ad- ROUSE OF COMMONS.—Mommy, F. 9. The liramtaa leek the emir at aquote, to roar At the time ef private balsam the Soria et Landes amend at the bar, sad yeaterard prtithrit la hew of tar earryin _eat sereaSa c =pere=tßrot o tho Lord Mayor, MiWarm, aid of . if s moo Osamell ammbieL PETITIONS Pamarrip. PAIL 1•101111•111, Raroairrla Rom / w hy Dad D. STUART team the beeest f hava llar= aa the 'Mont of tho of As ); Mr. H. BBilliill<T from 9,000 Mbebilamle of Brie 021 end its ik•=nami, stating that me spate= Si ream wilt bw ella den not Wind, the Wet ; Hr. }mug, la▪ ma the parhites of Chelsea, Ifeadagtem, and Fulham, praying that to say mouser Mom theme . •,mriabea mar be toadilatli into • parliamiatiry boyouf ; Mr. LANG STON, from Oaford ; and Mr. 0. RICAR DO, from the City of Wereester. broom Tax Coax trran.—By Mr. 111111 R, from mew amain mod bashers of Liverpool, in favour of the 'nap. tot the osonsittee of last Tear on the lama.' and Tax. fIIOOTH.—By Sir R. INGLIS, from Morn, wig other phew, against any further grant to. NOTICES OF MOTIONS. By Lord BLANDFORD, on an early day. Al leave to bring in a hill for the better division of paea n . be sects. 'Santini purposes and the better apportionm rat of ecc u s ise• tied duties therein. math of ebtai a Mr legeneendeekof the people, which ha when the ungsese mit of th i e lhea llene sse e i f tb Conseee, e " ie the ? islici le be der pay memere we meg adds. La gad the node it eleetlag gree nets of this the _ Oyer oneend hen t important an the With abide' Oh Mu and se bee to dis charge. (Hear,. heari si t li de4tel bode thy lie. (at tends sat in meant , emll ...a lts it biddy. of fnautioas so impeded by ant _thilbens tire anambly. Per, en only ameillTro; 110111011111121 n not! ift NO Ina treed ma their by this Mum bet t he seer owe eli C i lares . w7u=s hoed penmen les led to the rigid of advising the mews en i eedem adminishaden, and this house to onsehe that right. On re fisatingrirlitgedircereni==ps of honer days, with respect be the r the did that is 1781, when there Iwas great eztilemeat ee the= of reform, Mr. Pitt brought forward a es the subject without stating may plan, anrwt el sapposted by Mr. Fox, then Se• cretary of State, who, with his meal goal erase and grasp of Wed, said that le did ant agree with the abetting out of say shoo bat then* that all arse of thexp i l i e s should be eddy ideseldiel. (Hear, hear.) la lir. Pitt hewed • metered plan on this DAN% holding the implethat plat et k Ira Lord of thaTeethaq. Mr. Piet newel Bet • end hand be eet ea pieideleshealit be heeled to the geedene, la the den el ••en .me/ boventhe rennin mann, be preim that these webers shield he repined by ambers representing nollidee — ia that alliPat following of idea of Lord Chat ham* who thought that what we men to be desired by lid bee ltip lia oddities to the ism* representation. lie prepeed diase that a nut ahead he granted for the further porethee etthesegius, and that SIM of the largest towns, then without imeebers, should obtain the rirtgghts of repre sestation Is ales greened • great eoterbn of house behold!". la sellill - the large towns. That proposition wan hourneer, reiseleas end when, is 1791, Kr. Flood Pro* posed ea abiliee of to be ahem by the towns, Mr. Pitt dedinedibeg, be hod Nee aged his = sio frO leeddloed het the geollint dwell set then be Old Owed the order Of the day. I will pass there* video nano that wen nide while this country was egils with dheenieer May to the Breath war eel the Minch reehdint, beereee Tank that deem mo dem s id a Ltss woe he • great degne ennui by the eident flat Out prevailed, either in fader of a legsel mein hike, or, on the other bead, ia hetet of theethed antherity to put doers any attempt to chaye the omethelieu. A considerable time alter the imetietles of he On was war, in 1820, Lord Durham heueght Armed • al dividing the O country Into distils, awl rejected by the house. 1.11 19'12, I Some the honour of bringing forward spew of reform, la wide 1 proposed that 100 members abaeld be takes hue dr lIMIII boroughs —taking one iseaber free eon of the mei ewe. and giving 80 to the one lime. sod id to the help deem. Mr. Canning made • Ma dogma speech in tie debete, mid gave me, in endellen gent lens of Deem en emeente esculent ecossies le eindeng • reform, of the represeeln tin. Mr. Oaseng pined eat the iillbenty which I should have, the plan were tidied in that shape, in mufsg rid of the bergage tenure, which, as every one knows, was then • part of the representation, and was entirely in the Made of the proprietors f small boroughs. From 1823 several motions were made until 1831, when 1 brought forward, as the organ *tithe government of the day, a plan of reform which was afterwards carried in this house. I hold in my hand the original paper which was submitted to Lord Dur hem lined Dmicannon, sad Sir James Graham, in Dees.- her, 1831, and which is marked, in Lord Durham's hand writing, "Lord John Awn Plan." The plan I pro posed was that 50 borough should came to return mem ben, that 60 others shoal have only one member, aid that in cities and bore a generally a 101. household fran chise should be es I proposed, also, certain changes with regard to the smallest, similar to th ose which were is the former plea. That plan was discussed and laid before the cabinet, in a shape very little modified from the original. It was then then& better to take the limit of population, and it was peeposed that all boroughs under 2,000 should cease to retire members, sod that those be tween 2,000 and 4,000, sal se en to SAO, eboold return I only one member. In die theseedea thigh albwed in the cabinet, a long and animated dieenellen • difficulty arose with respect to the assumed population in dif ferent boroughs. I think it was faun that as the population was returned in the very geed is ma plas a l i thea sad net by ro boughs, there was id OMB between the population so enemed be plea sad the real population. It was neesemey, in esems, to ago point commissioners to saceada the reel siries of the bor ughs, and to get the umber of baser wore accu rately as a test. In the subsequent Reform 818, as brought before another parliament after the dissolution, it was pre- posed not to take, as I had done, an arbitrary number et limits, or to take the limit of population, but to take the number of boroughs to be abolished according to the led Reform Bill, and to take a test of the number of hosed and the number of assessments to the assessed taxes as • lea et the small boroughs which the bill was to disinter dies. Such was the basis on which that part of the Re hem Bill was founded, but it went also on the basis that many of the boroughs were places with. rot any inhabitants, and others with only a few, ad having the heritage tenure vested in the hands of the proprietor, and that therefore nomination, properly so culled, existed in that borough. In proposing the great changes then proposed—in proposing that a great number of huge towns should then be enfranchised—that great seats of mire nufactures, such as Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, mad Sheffield should have members—in proposing likewise • very considerable addition to the county repereenutime—we did not bide from ourselves that, according to the plan thee established, there would be a great number of bummer having a small population. We did not go to the extent of saying that no borough having • small population shoed cease to return members; we only went to the extent et saying that nomination should no longer return members. These are the words I find reported, not very accurately, but containing the substance of what I said ea introducing the first Reform Bill. I said, in intro ducing the first Reform Bill, 0 In the representative, as we propose to leave it, there will still be a clam which some will think a blot on our system, but the existence of this class, I think, will add, to the per manence of parliament and to the welfare of the ppwseplc. I mean that there will be a hundred, or more, mawben from places of three, four, he, or six douses& loMM= l te will not, perhaps, immediately be emg - tastiest, ind vela, therehre, may be lether. Waded le speak sad Want the been on great :Zen sseh lr gond nee le *e uthethenity. If we had es gene reeensmeded, ne., lees deey the ex eliften, and to elm mese hat mann haw seasties and hap skies and teen% Abel* it mend nee been a representable of the landed, eammediel, sell ureehe.uriag intimate, som► thing mead eIM have ben vesting to its deepletemes. That eemeding I dad is a swabs, of panes sot ine. meted either "With the bed, men pee or sonefacturee. bat wise en Niniely well waft to eater thin walls, and ale to gin addle said einem *Nine ingernat to the ' 'name of the tennumily." The holt time head with ear ghee was, net that we hod net tisoneyed these beeenhe, but it was said that schedule B had yeas tee far in disaboyfas a class et member, which we hod ourselves admitted to be se vestal. I have stated this beams it applies immediately to the geodes d the plan we now propose. In the first place, 1 hint diet if yea wen to admit into parliament none get mambos hr euuaties Gel eery large cities it would be ha peeible to eag that the punk were fairly represented. Yoe ea eel did Oa with vespeet to counties that any ether wisher. saw enesed bat each as are generally knows, or who an remarkable he their position or their property, Led yea will dad that a very large places many potions are denied who de ma illnietlittely represent the popular opi ning. while dime grebe es well qualified are excluded, and ligeniplei• surneuseadee of the people is thus destroyed. (RM. beam) Other nations have endeavoured to mask this theism fault in a representation founded ea peptise eleedes, and they have created peed , eine meninnese in order to give due weight M Ad plimelpie. Ia the United States, beside* the insti tution eras senate, in which the members are not ins,- ' disfiely tbe topeuentatives et eenteen, but are chosen by the nestiteline of the diffirreet stabs, them is a power glee to the proudest left the astatine* authonty—a peter he biped any by say sovereign of this orwary. The of in sheathe his muleteers may dime god the of Negee, esti ney appoint the when be esd these minim en en to eesdrin. oldientb the pendent himself la However the asp be in the sited Steam, it is 1111anet where this hews U sad its delibeicAleas har eem emeeMme Nest me ell the esedeet of the geoseanne, owl therehee I held it to be unwise to deem the babas* padded by the dastitotien, which we should do if we were to ▪ that we would have no members in this house but those who represented duties sad large cities, and admit no ether representatives. (Hear besot, and sheer..) In the Let of 1842, we peeneed a Ara et lerge eel wide dis froashisezZend we did se ea the penal that certain see sod al net reposed the people, and = were sulk te be admitted late the system of re prelestation, and Lies on the grepeed that there were large tease and places if great neashoterier sad commercial dinar, which meld not etherwirs be enabled to return mambas to this house, while at the Gems time we thought it was net desirable to increase the number of members of this hewn Bet looking to the present state of affairs II an es ash assmaity as should indult as to propose a pin of selitsen sad absolute disfranchisseesse It appears teeth as I here mere than *nee stated, end as I said even at the • p arks ef the Reform Bill, that seeking but such sossuity albs elinecie of any repreeentstion should in ane us so pegeoe such a distranehieement. What we now 1 peeped oe dishecbise any borough in which it is proved old emendiee exiele—(" hear, hear," and cheere)—and in de sada" hill which I shall have to bring forward, it is my intention to propose a change in the present ..a e of in quiry into the tarter of corruption in constituencies. (Hear, hear.) It is no doubt true that there are now boroughs I in which a system of bribery and corruption has become in- I veterate, and it is difficult for anyone to be returned for such constituencies soles, they resort to the most corrupt practices. I own that I am of opinion that cessidereble damage was done is this respect by a law otherwise of great importance, I area what is called the Grenville Act. That act enabled patties to conic to a tribunal where they could state a case between A. and 8., end decide the right of A. to retain a scat elsimed by Li., with all the modes in relation to evidence and with ell the costs of sound which are employed in a civil action. But while this mode of proceeding provided means to enable a member to retain his seat, or to make tho voiding of an ' abeam no longer a party matter in this house, pet this esiedief was created, that as soon as that question was settled It teased to be a matter of public interest, of which — iir7Ailiffili.tor. to-morrow ' to put a gau d= t o th e governmest as to the expulsion of pr ~Ant clergymen from the Austrian dominions. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH.EQUER (in reply to &guffaw trout Colonel Dross) side, t h at oa an "fl y day a bill to resit in certain unions, an g to o th en to poitpat a, the ropayasents due under the Camandated Annuities Act wonld be introduced. EPISCOPAL ET.,VENUES. Sir A. INOLIS asked wit , Alum the bon. member for Marylebone intendwl to bring forward his motion on this subject on Thursday next? Sir B. HALL—Not on ritundsy neat, for he expected certain Pawn beseinjt on the subject which would not be ready the da y . could Rheas early notice as possi ble of time at which the motion would be brought on. THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY ETFYINO. FEBRUARY 10, 1852. It lie hew could take 110geisuies. Thus, la the last optary, Iwhen Mr. Shepherd dealt largely in the eorre&L_a ist betangbe, it was thought worthy of 81: Edward to employ himself in establishing the sets .pal . silhim, and for which be received the thanks Pass boys*. But, as matters now stand, although there is opportunity if.. forded for updating members improperly elected, ea sops us that iodise the inquiry ceases ; and while the right to th e mat may be decided fairly, yet the question of public j . eadee and the furity of this house is left uninquired into. (H e w, bear, and cheers.) I propose that upon any addr en from this house, for any reason it may choose, be it ~s the Tu . port of an election committee, be it on the report of a select i committee appointed by the house, or be it on merely com mon fame or notoriety, it shall be lawful for the crown to appoint a commission to inquire into the eor euption of any borough, and that such commission shall have th e seine powers ss those which have been exercised with so much success in the late inquiry at St. Albans. (Hear, hear.) By this means there may be many eases in which sufficient es [ - deuce will be obtained to enable the I sollill to disfranchise a corrupt borough. Nor, do I think th a t the o th er h ouse o f parliament will complain of such a course of proceeding, Peen's, no case of disfranchisement can take place without their concurrence being obtained. But when we have dis franchised any borough in accordance with the evidence brought before us, it will be possible to give to large towns, with a numerous population, the power of returning mein. hers in the place of those who sat fur the borough which has beta disfranchised. The house will have the power of _ - doing as It thinks fit. I do not, however, think that such members should be given as was done contrary to my opinion In the ewe of Orampound, to the counties instead of to the towns. With regard, fur example, to Birken head and Burnley, if parliament shall agree to &than. chime St. Athens, we propose to give to each of those tw i large towns the power of returning the members of tho borough so disfranchised. (Laughter and cheers.) When I said that this was to be dune immediately, I meant to refer to the two seats already vacant for Sudbury, to which will be added the others which will be vacant on the dis franchisement of St. Albans. (Hear, hear.) /laving stated all that I pose as to disfranchi s ement, which is =4..in cues of proved guilt, and not to be soil alleolute, I now come to the question of the extension of the franchise. It appears to WO that there are two grounds on which we may propose a wide extension of the franchise in the counties and boroughs of the United king dom. At the time of the Reform Bid, I believe that in placing the right to voting In the IW. householders we did what was right and prudent, although we placed the point at which the suffrage might be reached higher than was absolutely necessary. That was • time when, with every wish to obtain reform, we yet were desirous that it should be safe, and we were unwilling to commit the suffrage to hands that might he unworthy of it. The right of voting in householders of 101. value having worked with safety to the institutions of the country under the provisions of an act which it was said menaced all those institutions with destruction, I think it is time now to venture to propose ' a lower qualification. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) There is another ground for the extension of the fran chise, which I tenter influences my mind very much, and on which! lald much stress, even when I mode • propo sition for reform in 1822, and that is the Intelli gence of the people. (Loud cheers.) I W weeereary, and if I was not afraid of wearying the Irma, hp a reference to statistic*, and show by ends ea the in. crease of the sale of newspapers, the ineemee d*. mie of books, sod the incrust in the estabilehmeatefedieek does 1831, the greet advance in the intelligens* of the people. But I do not think that any proof is arseensary, for the expo rienoe of every member of this house, I am nue, will iodate hint to concur with me, and to may that the franchise which wee given by the bill of 1831, may be made more extensive at the present time. (Loud c h eep.) We propose, there fore, that instead of the franchise being enjoyed only by the occupier of • house or shop of the yearly value of 101., it shall be extended to every occupier of 51. rated value. (Hear.) Looking at the general returns whieh we have received, I should may that in point of numbers the proportion of householders rated at from U. to 102, as compared with those rated at 101. and upwards, is as six to ton. It is clear, then, that when we lower the franchise to W. rated value, we add a great number to the persons entitled to exercise the franchise. (Hear, hear.) I am of opinion that the frier chise can be safely entrusted to them. (Loud cheers.) I sin convinced that it is • class to which such interests can be committed with perfect safety, and wheat intelligence ear titles them to the exercise of the power which we propose to give them. (Cheers.) With regard to counties, I de not propose to make any change in that which has be.. the general constitution of this house, although the repre sentation of counties barn been placed on a different basis to that of cities and boroughs. The greatest change in this respect was made in the Reform Act, and which was In. tradueed by • noble lord, then a member of this how— the present Duke of Buckingham. What we edsinelly proposed was, that the principle of "tenure" Amid be preserved, and that 40e. freeholders and holders of copy , hold tenures should receive the franchise, not losing sight of the difference between the qealiti,stion for counties and cities, the one being founded on tenure, and the other on occupation. But the noble lord pro posed and carried by a majority of this house that the franchise should be given to occupiers of 501. • year in counties. I thought that in that instaace the deliberate opinion of the house was not obtaine I, but as it is I think that that qualification may be lowered to that which entitles • man to sit on a jury. A person occupying a tenement of 201. rated value is qualified to servo on • jury, and I think that a person qualified to sit on a jury is not unfit to have an interest in the elective franchis e . (Loud cheers.) How far this proposition may extend the number of voters in coun ties I am not prepared to say, but at least I am sure it will not give the franchise VI a class in whom we cannot plus confidence. (Hear, hear.) We propose to reduce the quali fication in copyhulden and leaseholder from 101. to 51. 1 Another right of voting which we propose shall be given indiscriminately to electors either in counties or boroughs, is, that when a voter resides without a borough he may vote for the county, but if he resides within a borough he shall have • vote (or the borough, pro. vided in both cases that he pays any direct taxes as assessed taxes or income tax to the amount of 40s. a year. (Hear, hear.) I do not propose that the possession of licenses shall give this right became, that may open the door to abuses ; but that every person who pays 40s. is direct taxes shall have the right of voting. (Loud cheers.) Clauses will be framed in the bill 1 propose (or this purpose. The reason for granting tkie franchise has been fuunded on an objection which has been made, and not without cause, that while all meows used of freehold property, or are occupying are entitled to the franchise, there it a this al weliwol persons who, being possessed of neither of them species et property—(hear, hear)—have no votes, and we hope to he able to give vot es to that clue, and to give them an interest in the representation of the country. (Loud obseim) Having stated what I propose as respect. the extension et the franchise within the existing haute, I now come to the question of the franchise without the limits of certain boroughs. I have taken my stand upon the pris eiple that the small boroughs ought to be re tained ; and that it was thought right, at the passing of the Reform Bill, that they should be re tained. I do not find that, as regards Mr. Pitt or Mr. Fog, or any of those statesmen who brought forward plans of reform in parliament, the total destruction of the MA boroughs entered into their views. But I find that at the premise time there is a great outcry against these small boroughs, but I believe that that outcry, with the exception of certain instances, is fousded on • mistaken notion that all the smaller boroughs are infected with bribery and cor ruption. I say that this is a mistake. (Hear, hear.) I believe that while bribery and corruption do exist in many small boroughs, something may be said as to the existence of bribery and corruption to the larger towns—(hear, hear)—and that these will be found not at all peculiar to the small boroughs. (Loud cheers.) On the other hand, I believe that there arc many of the smaller boroughs in which bribery is not known, and in which elections are conducted with • total absence of corruption. (Hear. hoar.) But it is said—and certainly with truth with re gird to many of these small boroughs—that not only does the influence of property prevail, not only does property influence elections, but that often the influence of an indi vidaal by that minas becomes so overwhelming, as in some boroughs to cause them to approach the chancier formerly given to those boroughs in which direct nominations used to exist. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) I think it desirable that this rrproaeh should be taken away—(hear, hear)—for though we may for the present leave such bo roughs without disfranchisement, still, while they are sub ject to such • reproach and such odium, it seeders it doubtful whether, at a future time, they can be retained in the enjoyment of the franchise. I propose, therefore, in a certain number of boroughs where It appears that such an influence prevails, to add them to neighbouring towns in the same county, or, if necessary, in another county. The line which will be taken will not be founded on the test which was adopted under the Reform Bill—namely, the extent of population, the number of houses, or the amount paid to the assessed tun, because we now have more convenient tests. At the time of the Reform Bill I stated that, in my opinion, nearly all the small boroughs were supposed to have not less than 300 voters; but while this was generally the case, it appease that 14 have less than that num ber; upwards of 30 more have less than 400, and several others have lees than 600 electors. When I am speaking of electors, I mean permanent occupiers of houses of 101. rating, and freemen holding the franchise which they re tained under the Reform Bill. We propose that all bo roughs containing 500 electors should be retained, but to add places to all boroughs which contain less than 500 householders of 101 rating. The number of boroughs to which this principle is applicable is 67—(cheers)—in Eng land and Wales. (Hear, hear.) I do not sei.h at present to enter into details, because such details will he better judged when the bill is before the house, and then it can Ise seen what matters it will he advisable to carry out. (Hear, hear.) But one obs erva ti on I must make, because it is founded in truth, although the effect. of this arrangement may be viewed differently by gentlemen of opposite opinions. It is thought that the smaller boroughs, except in York shire, are generally in the southern and western part. of the k ingdom, and are situated in agricultural rather than in ensnufacturing and commercial districts. It follows, therefore, that the places which it is proposed to add to the towns are of the same character, and are not commernial or manufacturing. The effect of this arrangement, right or wrong, politic or impolitic, is certainly to enuree the same general balance of interests which was established by the Re- form Bill. If we disfranchise these agricultural districts, and ;give the right of voting to ma ufacturing towns in the north, we change that balance, and the agricultural ins rest will be depressed and the manufacturing interest raised in is corresponding degree. This may be right, and what many gentlemen may wish to see adopted, but I will fairly ay that I am not prepared to make any each arrangement. We propose to leave the general interest, ea we find them, and not to disturb that balance, fearful that if we did so we Todd peoveke a floes straggle of par- Gm In thie house and agate a strong opposition le this incises in the other home e( perloaogat. I. hese new slated the general purport of the neeteart as tar as relates to this franchise, and I will pressed to a state ment of ether matters eiontaiaed in the bill I propose. Ia answer I. a spools of a right hon. friend of mine last year I stated that I attached no value to the retaining of the present property qualification for members of this house— (loud cheers)—that it was easily evaded, that it was intro domed into our system of representation contrary to its general principles, and that for my_ cart I would willingly see it abolished. (Loud cheers.) Maintaining that opinion I have taken the opportunity of introducing a clause into this bill repealing all the acts begln'iing with the act of Anne relating to the property qualification of members. (Cheers.) I only propose that members fur therepreeenta lion of England and Ireland should be placed in the same position as members for Scotland, and I am sure that no one will think that those members are inferior to any whether es regards property or character. (Cheers.) There is another question which I propose to introduce into the bill, but which cannot he done except in a com mittee of the whole house. It appears to me that the state of the oaths taken at the table of this house is such that they can no longer be consistently retained. (Great cheering.) In the first place, we make it necessary that members should abjure dames 11. and his descendants, and eater into particulars with regard to the family of the Stuart', which are not now neeessary, whatever they might have been when the first prince of the house of Rooter ascended the throne. Neat, au invidious distinction is taken between the oaths of protestant and Roman catholic members. It appears to Ms that the oaths should be suck as they both alike can take . (Hear, hear.) 1 cannot see ' the advantage of making a peaestot member abjure the grockedastical supremacy of the l'ope, when we think it suffi cient if a Roman catholic member abjures only his tem ' pool and civil authority. (Hear, hear.) Nor do I think there is any advantage in that provision which obliges Roman catholic members to declare that they will maintain the established laws relat ' ing to property, and not seek to subvert the pro tenant religion, or interfere with the established church. ' (Hear, bear.) It appears to me that such an oath is en ' tirely useless. (Ilear, hear) If a member has no wish to ' subvert the protestant religion, or to interfere with the ' established church, the oath is unnecessary; but if he comes into the house with a determined repugnance to the established church and a design to injure it, I say that that oath will not prevent his carrying out such a design— ' (cheers)—while it merely gives an opportunity on certain occasions for taints with regard to its violation, and there fore I think that these provision, would be better oat of it. (Cheers.) It will not be a matter of surprise to the house if, in the new form of oath which 1 shall propose, and which will be generally nearly the same as that now taken by Roman catholic, I have nut inserted the words "on the true faith of a Christian." (Great cheering.) It Is abundantly clear that those words were not introduced in order to confine the right of sitting in this house to Christians, but with another purpose ; and even now it is notorious that the judges of the hind are ready to decide unanimously on the bearing of those words, and as to how they are applicable to the question of penalties. (Hear.) I think it will be better to have one simple oath, which all members can take. and which will bind them to allegiance to the throne, fidelity to the succession, and which shall not contain such objectionable provisions. There is ano ther provision of the bill which Ido not think will be ob jected to, because the question with which it deals gives no additional security to the people in the present state of the law ; I allude to that provision which declares that when ever a member accepts an office under the crown he vacates his scat. It is no doubt a wise provision which gives to the electors the power of declaring that a member shall either give his vote to the government or continue independent of the ties of party. But it is another thing when he merely changes the office he holds, as when a solicitor-general is appointed &Roney-general, that he should be compelled to vacate his seat and seek a new election. This appear* to me unnecessary, and when the electors have once declared that they have no objection to their member holding office, that is enough. I propose to alter this provision to that extent. 1 believe I have now gone through the main fea tures of the bill which I propose to introduce. It appears to me to be a measure consistent with the opinion I have frequently expressed as to what we ought to endeavour to make it, that is—a " supplement" to the Reform Bill, and not a " substitute " for it. I have devoted great attention to this subject. (" Hear, hear," and cheers) More than 30 years ago I first proposed a measure of reform which was met by the eloquence and great ability of Mr. Canning. Since then, under the successful auspices of Lord Grey and his colleagues, I was enabled to carry a large measure of reform ; and I am happy to say that so far fiom fulfilling the forebodings of its opponents, It has tended to promote the happiness and the liberty of the people of this country—(luud cheers)—while it has in no respect endangered• the stability of the throne or the constitution. (Cheers.) I trust that in proceeding farther in the same direction, taking care duly to measure our steps, we shall contribute still further to the liberty and the prosperity of the people, while we still maintain our institution, unimpaired. (Chem.) I have little to say with regard to the other two bills which will be accompa niments to this measure. One of these relates ts Scotland, and care has been taken that it contains provisions to pre vent fictitious votes by making the titles under which persona claim to vote complete, and that the franchise shall be reduced to 201. in counties and 51. iu boroughs. Then there is Ireland. The position of that country in con nection with the franchise has been very lately under the consideration of parliament. With regard to Ireland we do not proposes to make any alteration in respect to the county franchise. But with regard to the city and borough fran chise, we propose to reduce the qualification from 81. to U. It has been found that the 8/. franchise greatly restricted the number of voters iu Irelaud. I will not mention now the very small number who are on the lists of some of the boroughs; but I will say that those numbers have disposed is to re-consider the question which was placed be fore the house at the time the Irish Bill was before whether, with regard to some of there boroughs, it is not advisable to add the neighbouring towns, and thereby secure larger and more independent constituencies. fie far, therefore, we propose to go with regard to the Irish boroughs. I will not state now, but if the bill be introduced it will be stated, what will be the extent and operation of these additions. Sir, I trust that when these enlarged franchises have been given, we shall next have to consider —the government of this country, in whosern:ver hands it may be, will have to consider, most seriously and earnestly, the great question of the educatiou of the people. (Cheers.) In say mind, tLis question of the franchise is not at all alien from the other question—that of pro viding that the instruction and education of the people shall be in a better state than it now is. (Cheers.) lam con vinced that if, after a measure of this kind, in another ses sion of parliament, this house shill consider the means of establishing a really national system of education, it will be conferring one of the greatest blessings that can be con• (erred on this country—one for which, I believe, the peo ple are now almost prepared—and which, after fur ther discussion, I do trust might be carried with a very general assent. (Cheers.) I do not propose, Mr, now, however, to enter further into this question. I have stated the general provisions of the bill I propose to introduce. And I r.joice, in this time of quiet and tran quillity, in approaching this subject, that we are not acting under compulsion of any sort, that we are not coerced by any clamour to introduce this bill, but that we do it in the humble and earnest hope that we may, in this, contribute something to the power and glory of our country. (The noble lord resumed his scat amid loud cheering.) The motion for leave to bring in the bill was then read from the chair. Amid groat confusion, caused by members leaving the house in great numbers, Mr. HUME warned the noble lord that this measure would not meet the justice of the case, and would not appease the demands of the people. Tho noble lord probably in tended this to be a soothing and quieting measure; and it sn, ho would be disappointed; tor, sooner or later, there would come the inevitable protest of men who felt themselves aggrieved in being denied what they regarded an their rights. liven as the hill stood, and as for as it went, it was in itself imperfect unaccompanied by the ballot. He deeply regretted the omission. Ile also deeply regretted that the noble lord had avoided the question of triennial parliaments. Ile, as a reformer, who was asking for very much more than the noble lord seemed prepared to give, :iegged to express his wish to meet every one of the propositions of the bill on their merits, as they would anus; and he hoped to be able to persuade the house to increase greatly the value of the measure, and to remove many of the anomalies and injustices which it could not be denied did exist. This bill would leave out of the possession of the franchise two or three millions of artisans and working men—the very strength and muscle of the country ; and the house might be assured that these men would not endure their degradation for any great length of time. The noble lord, he there fore thought, had missed availing himself of an opportunity of performing a great act of justice. Sir J. WALSH thought no ground had been stated for re-opening a question which it was understood hail been finally settled twenty one years ago, anti reminded Lord J. Russell of Sir R. Peel's preilietion, that the first inroad upon the Reform Act would he mode not by its opponents, but its anthem He contrasted the excitement of 1832 with the frigid indifference row manifested on the subject of reform, and chaeged Lord J. Russell with having incurred the heaviest responsibility of his life in thus agitating the question, and sacrificing the interest of the state to the interest of party. lie described the former measure of reform RS having lowered the character of the house and its estimation in the country ; said that the prim ciple of finality having been given up, there was 110 Kru city against new inroads on the constitution. One of two tunsequences would result from this constant meddling with our gnat constitutions, either the constitution of the country would be changed to a deinutraitic republic, or the House of Commons would bo rendered unfit for the puts poses of government. After speaking for some time against any further changes he said that he should not oppose the introduction of the bill, but should be prepared to give anxious attention to its details. Mr. H. BERKELEY gave credit to the nohle lord for giving to the country something more that un infinitesi mal does of reform, hut regretted that he did nut propose to protect the f:anchise by the ballot. Mr. I'. HOWARD ' , poke generally in approval of his noble friend's bill. Sir R. INOLIS complained that Lord John Russell had intrglueed into his Reform Hill questions of • religious elianwter, such as the admitsion 4.f Jews to parliament. With regard to the extens.on of the suffrage, he did not dread it so mach aa formerly, since ho had seen the utter &Aura of universal suffrage in a neighbouring country. Ile objected to the abolition of the property qualification, as introducing a further democratic clement into the cun•ti- THE RECAIL OP SIR. IL SMITH. Mr. 3. WILLIAM haw observed in the public pa pers that a Robb dr .ke, in another plate, in speaking of Sir Harry Smith, eulorsised most highly his military services at the Caps, and app roved of all he had done. A Blue Book has glace been circulated on the affairs of the Cape, in which there is rs despatch dated January Itth, 1852, front Lord Grey to Sir Harry Smith, condemning in twelve dis tinct paragraphs, the proceedings of that gallant officer. and recalling him from his post. The noble lord at the head of the government, on Tuesday last, read to the house a letter for the guidance of Lord Palreenton, which letter was dated August, 114.10. sir weeks alter the House of Commons had expressed its approbation of that noble lord's policy. I wish, therefore, to ask wheth , r any similar letter of instructions bee been sent to Lord Grey at the Colonial office, and whe ther the despatch of January last, condemnatory of Sir Harry Smith, was approved by the prime minister, and by him trenamitted to the sovereign before it was forwarded to Sir Harry Smith, or, whether the contents of the des• patch were communicated to her Majesty by Lord Grey as it appears in the 6th paragraph? Lord J. RUSSELL, with regard to the ant part of the questies, stated that when be first came into the office he now held, he received her Majesty's direction that all (mists despatches should be sent to her for approval before they were transmitted to the minister, and the instruction he read the other night was only confirmatory of that direction. On inquiring of her Majesty whether the colo nial despatches were to be submitted in the same way, she was pleased to say, that, while she was desirous that all the important despatches should be submitted for her approval, it wasnot required that every particular despatch should be submitted. In regard to this particular despatch referred to, it had been submitted to him, and he gave his approval of it, but it was not submitted to her Majesty. The de eisios, however, to recall Sir H. Smith was that of the whale cabinet. (Hear, hear.) LOSS OF XIIE AMAZON. Lord NAAS asked whether any correspondence bad taken place between the Admiralty and the Port• Admiral at Ply mouth, and if there had, whether the First Lord would be willing to lay such correspondence on the table ? Sir F. T. BARING believed that some correspondence had taken place, and should not object to its production. Lord NAAS then gave notice that ho would move for the correspondence on this day. LIGHTING OF THE HOUSE. Lord J. MANNERS asked whether a ny member of the government had, within the last few minutes, received any communication respecting the unsafe state of the chande hers ? (A laugh.) Lord SEYMOUR had received no such communication. Within the last few days he had examined all the compe tent aathoritiee and had learned that the chandelier, were perfectly safe. (hear.) Lord J. MANNERS would then inform the noble lord that a communication had been received on that side of the house front Dr. Reid to the effect that they were by no' ' means safe. (Laughter.) The noble lord concluded by moving that Dr. Reid be called to the bar; and a abort conversation ensued, the result of which was that the mo tion was negatived without a division. SALMON FISHERIES (IRELAND). Mr. CONNOLY gave notice that on that day week he would move for leave to bring in a bill to regulate the sal ines isimies of Ireland. THE MILITIA, Lead S. RUSSELL poetpoaed until Friday next his mo dem reepaeting the militia. SUPPLY. The mart of the committee of supply wu brought up mai awed to. Mr. F. O'CONNOR. Thu SPEAKER stated that he had received a letter from as cadet magistrate at Bow•street, to the effect that, under sismding it wu according to rule to inform that house of say arrest in tho person of any t el of its members, the writer tto inform that honourable house that Mr. F. O'Con been brought before the polico court, sad bad been asaasesend to seven days imprisonment for assaulting a poliwartable in the discharge of his duty. (A laugh.) THE NEW REFORM BILL. Lord J. RUSSELL rose at 6 minutes past 6 o'clock, and peweeded te 'peek as Mews. Yr. *esker, I rim te move the lbw blebs in • til le sated the right of beteg W sematineet gmliewb. mei Is emend the laws relating es the rebonded* elide WO* Um elate of ahem ht whisk I kW hewed tide milks i is be esdatoemy *this bum, and to the pleple liseariL During MS yens we have seen the effielballiff like tons by use. whine, while dude the milthe ihat gibed this county, Ime tees tranquil sad 110. nod any Unweaned drips b our inthatiew bee been averted * the seneral spirit end unabbese hoeing of the peg* IS appears to me that this, then, is a pew elbe 4 eee► fibrin whether any farther eztensia• an he Oft in the right of voting, consistently with those yehlithla the mastitution by which the prerogatives et the authority of both houses of parliament, nal rte IWO and liberties of the people are equally secured. (Climmeis) I know that there are some perms who will say that no ought rather to wait for agitation, mid that it is bettor In legislate ea a subject of this Mad when the praiser title people ma rased, and when there is greet dlaealmt upon the one side and great fear upon the awn but I wholly differ from that opinion. (Lea ism) I think that if it is desirable to make any Isithow solodel of the right of voting, to make soy ummineng h An eta of the representation of the people, it Y well M essellee melt ohmage calmly and in limn 41( enact the sew franchises withest sesipshlss, se s *who fee peat madiset, sad p security for the Mama beillialleme of the country. (Cheers.) I believe, them bee, Oil len doing right is now bringing forward a question edit lido and emosisbutly with the many proofs of security width bees been gives to this house. I repeat this become lam swan it has been everted—but rented without • shadow of foundatiaa—that it was merely en the spar of the moment, and being pressed by • motion which was made last year, that I gave notice that I should bring this subject under consideration during the present session. It has been stated by sae, it was stated in the year 1848, that although I could we agree to the seem that were made in the twee, imps- Wally the monism ebb by my honourable friend the esseabse tor Neerweee. my asides was that it might be rivisabie M eansider of farther extensions of the tranehise in times lutes tbsteeniiratiea might be eslidy and deliberately mooted es. In the year 1849, I seemmitty brought wider the wesidereties of parliament the guation of whether we should intruding welt a mea sure is the following year, but it was them* that, as arch a meows must lead hams • veep keg period te a dierietitch it was sivhabie net is bring it for ward In the ensuing there se But MN deliberge ee, during the last poarlia Mpa a e p at on the suTo r ;, and the wreal a reasons for peared to be outwit' hed by the general desire to beteg ss a nes sure immediately. Now, although my renews for post ponement were valid, yet they of course exposed me, or any ain taking the course of tho government, is this 'di- Mat either I must have given a mem veins the and by opposing it altogether issweeM that whisk was and the intention of government, and this appose in the following year to be forced into a measure g or IS the other hand, I was obliged in stating thp gamut intention to give en announcement whit wee ears is Mrs e: Lion, and to create much disimmlam. I =s the latter o f ? those alternatives, shims" so li ther sense has not been without ireMeimaisune, I mom my, *waver, that there wu teething that I had ever sold, so expiated's whisk I had ever held est, whisk druid bums extravagant hopes se oae side, or exaggerated fears es the other, es te the nature se the insamins I was about is pewee. navies elated thee musk kg way of preface, Ma it will be esseselost le the Musk if they will with me review dre ansersi whisk base teen miepted, and the immerses whisk be,. bees proposed es this sub• lost is various periods. I de sot mean to enter into diessedoo of the general priselples of representation, be • ewe I think it is sow I S bol ginerally amoeba that to alio the ite as th ise • be wry imikel if not• obis shalt ma be sup by (Bear hear.) Irk deed 62 be obtained it govemmaat r ead a tution, and se • to a still greater extent po wer f PUnr.RIGHT, judging by the int e lli gence displayed • by the ratepayers between U. and 101. a year be local matters, believed there was no danger of the electoral body being deteriorated in character by th e noble lords' plan; but he regretted that care was not take's to prevent the exercise of coercive influence by large nano. facturen and others, who had many of these smaller voters dedendent upon them, by introducing the protection of the ballot. He saw no reasons for lowering the county fray. chime to 201. which did not apply with equal lures in favour of earrTing the reduction to 10r. What reason was then for saying that the men who occupied a 101. house in th e country was not as intelligent and as respectal i k ea the road who lived in a 111. home. in • borough ? The noble lord bad talked about maintaining the balance of interests, but the preponderance of the represei.tatives of the laud and opponents of the settled question of free trade, whi c h he supposed he meant, was not n balance of interest s hut merely a dead lock to the gov e rnnient• lie warned to know why such places as Thetford and Barwick should send two members, while such boroughs WI Ma n . Chester, Finsbury, or Westminster sent no m ore j A settle. ment on such a lauds could not he permanent nor ought it to be so. Be urged the noble lord to consider between this and the next stage of the bill the propriety ut withdrawing the eitetencre from those small beroughs he proposed to en. large, and apportioning them to the large coustituencies or to new constituencies raised from more popiiiii.e. didricts Urging the desirability of short Parliaments, approving the course of the Government as regarded oaths, if oaths were to be taken, but recommeuiling that there should be ea oath at all, he regretted that Lord J. Itunell bail not do ne more now, instead of leaving open questious for future sessions. Mr. 11. BAILLIE taunted Lord Jobe with net providin g for the repeal of the Septennial Act, if be meant to make the measure a democratic one ; so I expressed his decid e d opinion that no measure of return would give satisfaction which did not propose to aliorteu the duration of perineum. With regard to the small boroughs ' the only fair ?aide of dealing with them was to extingui s h theta altogether. Il e then complained of the unfair proportion of represent et i, enjoyed by England as compared ,itit Irelaind and Soot_ land; and thought the members for these two couetres would fail in their duty if they did not unite in demanding have that v, to . recwhoiremh bill, they let were them h justly , have entitled. areal atut ~ ub If . they t. , w i ..,i ere oo t e e one that would give a fairer andmore equal distributio n of the franchise to all classes of the people. Mr. ItOCIIE was surprised to hear such liberal senti ments as had just been enunciated by Mr. Baillie COating from what used to be called the tory can, - ... and au4urid from it that the people would nut be diseppointed this time in übtairing a real reform bill. Mr. R u che then en mined the measure on the supposition that it war to be applied ia its integrity to Ireland. Mr. NE WI/EUATE condemned the tacking of the Jew Bill to that for the reform of parlioinent, for no porisse that he could understand hut to curry favour with a sery small class of the community, at the risk of giving offence to the House of Lord.. Mr. TILELAWNY spoke in favour of the plan. Sir,J. WALMSLEI boGcvod that the government rata. sure would nut meet with the approbation Of the cuuntrr, and contrasted the liberal speech of Mr. Baillie with ti noble lord's statement. He dwelt especially Oa the alism of the ballot—the withholding the right M repr , sentatim from many populous towns, and declared the bill Will t. tally unworthy of beina trolled a Roman Bill. Lord RAWLY VANE fully approved of the principles I the hill. Mr. ANSTEY accepted it ma large instalment of reform, and es a means of acre lerating that larger eluding the ballot and short parham itts—which he asi many others wished to ace carried, 'flie ballot wu. quad, necessary as a protection against the influence of the lord and the interference (in the ease of the Reinke ca. tholies) of the busy, meddling !tricot. Ile was vs iv to find that it was not intended to interfere with the aunty constituencies of Ireland. Ito hoped the noble bird would yet give compensation to the enmities of that country hada electors absorbed from them to make up the borough con• stituencies. iiii.IYRELL thought the hill en extremely harmless one, but doubted whether it %mild be sati•factory to say party. lie remarked on the tart of the noble lard, who, supposing his bill would not satisfy the hlanehi , tir piny, threw out a bait to them on the educational gut +jun. Colonel SIBTIIORP deuounced the goseniment and all their measures. Mr. W. 0. STANLEY said a few words in support of tie measure, and Lord J. RUSSELL having stated that the second read. ing would take place on Friday sennight, Mr. DISRAELI demanded a longer interval for re. Section, the more especially as it was und, r-tood the hdl would not be on the table until Thursday next. Judguig from the minister's statemen', he did net think the project was calculated to disturb the existing halanci of repreienta tion to any great extent ; thi refine his mina was much re lieved; at the same time he dispute(' Mr. Bright's prynCl. ple, that because Thetford with a very small populatma returned two members, therefore Manchester should reties more than two. The inference was the other way—that ta smaller town should not retain so many. lie rverved to himself the right to consider whether it was wise to deal with the question at the present time; and, if sg, whetter the measure proposed was calculated to lee edici(ut for as alleged purpose. Sir G. GREY and Sir B. HALL spoke against delay; the latter, however, expressing himself confident that the noble lord's bill would make the county constituency more corrupt than it was at present, unless the franchise fras probated by the ballot. T he principle of the preset bid ought to be like that of IM—enacting disfranchisement est the one band, and enfranchisement on the other. Ile theucht the same ggialificatiou should obtain in the counties so .a the boroughs. Lord NEWPORT said a few words, which were Itet heard. Lord DUDLEY STUART considered the measure.s. adequate to meet the requin•meim of the country, eat hoped it would be accepted as an instalment. After a few words from Mr. M. ()Toys tit and Capta4 llAunts, Lord J. RUSSELL, in reply to a question from Mr. E. B. linens, stated, that a separate bill would be iutroda,e4 tor Ireland on Friday neat. Tim motion was then agreed to. BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS. ..... - Lord J. RUSSELL obtained leave to introduce a bill to provide for more effectual inquiry into the esistince of corrupt practices at elections for members to serve in pa. liament. On the motion of Lord Na.ts the following returns wire ordered :—Accounts fur the third and fourth quarters of the year 1851 respectively, of the number of quarters of what, barley, and oats, and of the number of sacks and barrels of Hour respectively imported into England, Ireland, end Scotland, severally fruni the United States of Amerce, from Canada, from France, and from all other parts of Europe; distinguishing the quantity of those articles sect from each country respectively ; also, stating the num b er of quarters of wheat to whi:h the entire number nines' and barrels of flour from each country are all equivaliot (in continuation of parliamentary purer, No. 565, of ICS6i4I 1851). The house adjourned at halt-ptut 10. IRELAND. Denny, FED. 9. The Lord Lieutenant presided, on Saturday env. ing, at the annual distribution of prizes to the pupas of the Government School of Design, at the Royal Dublin Society House. Ills Excellency delivered on the occasion a long address, in which he evinced the same enmesh wish, which he has ever shown, to en courage industrial progress in Ireland. A correspondent of the Ercnrity Pa, ket, writing from Ballinamore, in the county of Leitrim, states that his servant boy was fired at a few evenings since within a hundred yards of the police barrack, and that that was the second outrage of that nature which had taken place in the neighbourhood Is dai a very short interval. A respectable shopkeeper of Newry, who tinetly identified a prisoner charged on the wont attempts at agrarian murder, as the persons t 4 whom he sold small bullets just previous to the attempt, has refused to confirm his intOrrantiouupM oath. Mr. Carden, of &mane, Templemore, has notified his intention of seeking the suffrages of the pcopie d Tipperary at the ensuing general election. lucre seems to be now no doubt that the pierce of wreck washed in on the coast of Galway belong to the John Toole, of Liverpool, which mad from Neer Orleans to Liverpool with a cargo of cotton On the 24th of December last. Mr. Justice lorryns, in addressing the county of Dublin grand jury, at the opening of the euutiniebion of Oyer and 'Terminer, on Saturday, said : Ile would feel some Ki.isfacion if lie were able ton to the county grand jury, the tame congratulations did he had offered to the gentlemen of the city grand jury; but be regretted to inform them, so fur as his experienn that the county calendar exhibited a much greater numb!? of prisoners for trial than he rem, rubelld to find upon 1,1 a conaiderable period of time ; and clime of the tainted in it were, he was sorry to say, or a very sfri,,tt important nature—lour being casts of burglary, and too of highway robbiry. TIIE COlNAGE.—Yestertlar, apttrliamentars P , Pet was printed, showing that from 184 to 18.il inelurire ;IS years) there was advanced out of the Covs.ilidated Fond 3,618,029/. 19s. Id. for the purchase of bul:ion for reineCiN and the repayment% ter the advancer; in the tame amounted to 3,528,029/. 19s. 441. HtsctiVEttV OF A GOLD DltiftlNG IN SKTE.—Thu ° is a startling announcement to mike (Nay* the bir ,, C ss Courier), but we do so on thu authority of the folloiMtit flute frum a gentlemen on whose we ' due p e rwct reliance : "—, January 30, 18 , 12..—The p,ople of "• I ^Ye ore in the great, st state of eteitetuebt at pn,ent, 3 mine having been dkovered on the hanks of the wet Stensehol, in Waternish ! A travelling tinker of the n. 1 5, of Stewart hot converted some of Cie goll into riaLts' I have not reen any of it myself, hut from the ilewnpumi given by those who have seen the metal I hero tv , doubt that it is gold. This statement is quite correct, and ) 02 may insert it. Samples of the metal have been e, at to Edinburgh." ree not th( usi Si? cu