The Express. — London, England, 1852-03-13 00:00:00

IMPERIAL P. HOUSE OF LORDS.—FiuDAy, MARCH 12. TM Loup cIIAMCZLIAII took hie seat et 5 o'clock. COUNTY COURTS FURTHER EXTENSION BILL. On the motion of Lord IiaDZIDLLI the report on thi s bill, with ameudincnts, wee brought up and agreed to. PRIVATE BUSINESS OF TUE HOUSE. Lewd ILIMIDIDALI moved that no private bill shall be read a second time after Tuesday, the 6th of July, unless the chairman of the committees shall report to the house special 111110001 for extending the tiros to any such bill. Ilia lordship also snored that so bill, continuing any pro. visional order of the B oar d of Health, shall be read a second time after Tuesday, 13th of July, NOTICE OF MOTION.—TIIE CORN LAWS. Lord NEAL:MONT gave notice that he should, on Mon day next, present petitions complaining of the injury which the petitioners suffered in consequence of the uncertainty which existed with regard to the intentions of the govern ment as to the importation of foreign corn ; and in present ing the petitions he should *veil himself of the opportunity of asking the First Lord of the Treasury whether it wsa the intention of her Majesty's government to le commend to parliament any alteration in the present policy regarding the Importation of foreign corn as soon as another parliament could be assembled. The Earl of ESSEX exproeed his regret that, owing to indisposition on the evening when the noble earl at the head of the government stated his views and intentions, be was prevented from saying how cordially he agreed with the noble earl star him (the Earl of Aberdeen), when he declared, in his usual straightforward manner, his entire adherence to the commercial policy transmitted to them by that great statesman Sir Robert reel. (these.) As regarded other questions of • general nature, he should be most happy to give his di•interestcd support to the government, as lie would to any government, whenever he felt that he could do so with satisfaction to himself. Most firmly and strongly, however, should he oppose them at that or any future time if that' proposed the re-imposition of a duty on corn, great or small be it, for the purpose of revenue or protective. (Mar) - - _ EAltLi DISSOLUTION OF PARLIAMENT. Lord LYNDHURST wished to call the attention of their lordships to various important measure', many of which were connects) with the reform of the law, now pending in that and the other house of parliament. And ho wished to do this in consequence of reports in circulation arising from the catheting of a piety yesterday and partly in consequence of the congregation of certain agitators—he used that title because they assumed it to themselves—assembled for the purpose of endeavour too, by the influence of large numbers and certain pecu niary subscriptions to &considerable amount, to effect if possible the speedy termination of the present parliament. Now, their lordships were aware that it this parliament was to be terminated in April, it was impossible that • future parliament again &wattled for business could meet until the close of the month of June or the beginning of July ; sad it would follow that the measures to which he was goinq to advert, or the greater part of them, swot be postponed to another year, which he conceived would be cons tiered by toe nation as • great misfortune. First, as to the pri vate blamer sow depending before parliament, it appeared this year to be greater than on former occasions, for there were no less than 210 bills of • private nature to be brought before parliament. Many of them applied to local districts of great eatent—several of them to societies and oesociatiessa, consisting of large babas of persons and thictilchendillff very !ROM pecuniary isterests. He would leave it to tide keihipe to consider what great deter. ineonvesimook and impasse would arise from postmining to red it inch • tams of prbillielmiriers. pm/ SR r ez illrer, comporarivoly Id little imperldmin, red M ki direct their atteutisMlO allnoome and s M. war dm bill for the Vellum of the Court of ChM", ollua 1 . 10 of the spot Of al eassisilet ionse lee le Ilk sairee The bill Se Ihe yeiweesiFig Meet 1•10 — aR was i ef hit NIS sad - M oil is es =to are. milk ins dist to Ihed be it CIL ether WIC Me t 'las/ cad parliament &salved be the% Ibis the senile incident to web • strioro, I awed he perforate =ad= to Thrre wet anot the n is t er a irr weft t e tt awls of omens ism at Weaskeret, 1110111 we le Safi* the yeeseedlup if Se esweb. Aram emetwuro tapers - le woe OM irbkh lend Sem. that lordships' house &Sag &. hust ordesellyedirmat Id& respect to charitable trams la may ye*dthi teerky there ware roe shed N abliklisi If mull ma& het se mil Ihet Ike Mil rot akar Ohs eons of being eilmlehereed ery own er bile at point eluting; k Ina thornily,. delle^ ley•yeeporly coos tieuryl ielbre& to nee ibie die ask wire wiled as they rem to be. The siemens wee he ar& • Sete et fu womb= Sat sobabl in a few seethe M wed' barge the taw as. Ina Mess was, doh mese wierw to tibldll= st to direst steadied , dmmelp. the ftelst Bill. The pro& el Ma peat krona* wri open to every pails etielles • bill to emend the law bola teed Sea w but se farther beil been Shea ea it. The mass Me rYadlsast ed the Bird • I triode, W esreW to la areas bill, bat be bed net yet AWN wa. Thee was, hmereor, another matter not conneand aft Ste law to which be wished to allude—s matter of risaistkelgoolance thaasnyUteug which be hid yet everted to—ermielpObe military Moon,. .• ne cessary fur the delimit et*, seeky. Every body admitted thaws yew& pesteadis MINN enure us from foreign invasion,'" drab se to Newport at eittl:r i i l t a and influence with hudipa states. Meer, kw. l It wee amatery, *ma" that a remedy be applied, mai foe Ohs honour end dignity of the metntry with as little ildny as possible. (Hear, hear.) It wee ropeselble that nay sea who felt for the bosom' of his anindoy. amid he esres for the dissolution or parliament bean *lb post emotion was satisfactorily settled. Them perms' who premed on a dissolution in tho t date of the weary, would ho gu i lty of inch folly, esed imilifremam to the pal security, al be did set Sal is eked, le the prams et ter lerdeidge. to darks. Then Wen ippl y t thee keperind lastiem eialleey skeet, water ro the seiesolk, wheedieerat of eopyhoide, registration d eesionimon, ad ether asseires of • oral character to le hemight before parliament this amiss He ass she Wade to another subject, solely, the edshalsoie• of justice in their lordship' bare. Eighty-two .ass dew Need ke lesesias ; end it Owe was au wily glassiwiss dpeilematiia ems suet Med over kw swum year, erl irk iseddder WPM kreeke the anxiety end expense whim.' or& delay mud eireske to the suitor,. The noble sad hosed lard earladed by flawdssi for • return of the amber et pirate bills sew p• leg is their lordships' lesum—Oedstiiii. LEGAL REFORM. - - The LOUD CHANCELLOR, who was throughout eery inaudible, said it might be expected that he timid take the earliest opportunity of stating what the intentions of the government were with regard to the measures of law reform which bad recently been brought forward. He believed there never was an occasion when these whammed to reform the law had a fitter opportunity than the present of carryin; their views into effect. One of the chief inessures of legal reform had been proposed by a commission, wisely 1 1 directed and executed by learned men, and they had been matured to • considerable extent by the late goverment, than whom, he believed, never did a set of men exist es ready to carry into effect a reform of our civil institutions. One of the bills was called the Suitors in Chancery Relict Jul.i and it was now in the other house of parliament me noble and learned lord disadbed the isetee of the bill, sod proceeded to say that be oboubil see waist to any eau which was intend, 4 to be abelielted by that bitl ; with reference to the caws Weigh were 101111,011 mod M wYet he might appoint, he bed ellberel to en penis mile hid down in the bill in quondam. With mibeenet te doe *See of Chancellor, bed se elieniem to the reductions which bad beim mods; edam !Mediae his successors, however, could be eapeseel be ounomed them selves with the dignity and ebesemlasee tibial' Who'd to former thence:Homiest they met accommodate thew selves to the eircusademosa fi which they were There was • question to whisk he wished to slluornt reference to the judicial Mews of the Chancellor. It was suppose d, because the Lards Justices had been amMted, that the Lind Chancellor bad saw se Inn& time, there was no longer any presume open Ms. Now the went of of the Lords Justices lad MOIRA from him so pain ful • preemie as • man could wig ` be esasa to, soil it was this, when sitting in their . been the lad Chancellor knew that the suitors in his NM were being neglected, and when presiding in that evert he bad the inns stimulus of the suitors at their lordships' bar being nes stetted. The Chancellor of the present day, however, whoa sitting in their lordships' Imes% bad the setielbethe knowing that the business of the *Mt was bang minatird by able and enlightened men in a highly mitielhisemy manner; bat as the Chancellor lad still to noes ham early dawn to late at eve for az days in the week be did not feel that any relief was gloom senseedy ie seee of labour. The bill whist bed best meendseed by his noble and learned friend—the Oseames Law Promedings Amendment Bill—was • mod issatese memo e. Ile was meet desirous to promote its objects, and he was sure that an satiety would be felt by all legal Moms to make it as perfect • measure as possible. Maim meat important measure to which the attention of the seimtrlr bad been directed wee the bill for improving the jeam and procedure of the Court of Chancery. It was proposed that the office of Master should he entirely abolished — Lord BROUGHAM.—And that there geoid he no new references. The LORD CHANCELLOR could not quite adopt the words of his noble sad learned friend. It we impossible, in ame when a snit had been long pending, to make the Parties matinee in the uld form, whilst the suitor who com menced • suit to-sorrow was to have the advantage of the new practise. Reimposed immediately after the passing of the intended bill to abolish the whole course of proceed ing ha the Master's °See, and whilst they were retained, to let them adopt the ease course as would govern a judge at chambers. fly the present constitution of the court., the judge in equity trainisetid no business in chambers. lie sat as long in court as his physical powers would permit, and it wee important that judgment should follow the hearing of • cause as quickly as possible. It was proposed that the judge who did not now Mk nil chambers should follow his own business in chambers, and for that purpose he should hare clerks, and with • proper doff, he should, if he (the Lord Chancellor) might use the expression, become his own inner, _and de in chambers that portion of the business I which Issd hitherto been transacted by the Masters. This we am proposition which he could not well approve of, be. cause there it me proposed that the emoteef liens amid have the same power u the masters dflomeime new had, sod that they sred, hould trassact the bunnies. until other dame were secu at the present !last n' offices. He mild not agree to that proposition altogether, for they would be sit ting without my Mesh sr esstroL He doubted whether the new scheme would work well, unless each judge had attached to his court sufficient MINN "0 rto have his superior MMus unt'ar his own eye. What he understood to be the excellence of the new scheme wee that the judge would not be absolved from seeing that the accounts, tic., were accurately prepared. Whim that was to bo done, he would go into km owe chamber send direct his clerk how to take the accounts, ice. He would talk the salleet over, sad have some cm to assist him in serryin eat tne detail% which he lied net now. He war et einem that millaing should ever he heard in Mambas that weld be heard la mart, and be ellsold consider that it golden ride which new ought to be broken in upon. There was an other point, which was as to the mode of enailiting witnesses. Perrone might easily commit perjury by the pnesat system el interrogatories, because it was im passible to eireememodoe the witnesses. Now,it was proposed, -yd he embelyagreed with the suggestion, although not without the examination should be Wm saw TM, were invited to imitate the example of America, and they proposed to do what that country had already done. They had abolished their ✓outers' in Mammy, and their written interrogatories. TM proposidea hire was, that we should have orates' affi davits Mused of interrogatories, but in America they would net admit affidavits, for in every cue of speeibe perform ers* M Maeries, a jury was summoned, sad it was eon =of and justly, th , st jurors were tirtzbt teem their whboat any remuneration to Mt the cm* to bees mime in every equity case. This was an alteration, wish he mold not conceal from himself, he regarded with mask approbenam. livery affidavit po s y repered by the setersey--be met the eser, lse put the lei OM party wits mere to it mould not understand it. The emit el his emeiesee of affidavits was, that they were erinamed full of impertinent sail arils mar. One of the first things which be thought necessary to be done was, to Moab He pm* mime et the Court of Chancery. lie themilmmeisotheold be re scinded, end that a Ms~lef euImANN be substituted, which would greatly ~Wilts prosibre eft mom No measure wee at yam{ ; bat is limed that one would mss he ma* to be submitted to parliament, founded mos Me ammliesees' report. At the sad the reporting deim elleMl that it maid be amt fever, mate NW •••10M . MOM Time am so slip, ever, wish he ahead mere wis e s. It meld be utterly ispemile, without an singgal ler, to wry eat that eespeetion of the rommehatmara The mete GM lammed MI then made moo thaerviem, to eve doe MINIM Mole et the law will oellosetee sad imiamei ems seam la which the himilem el testators hem Metemm L le ameeseme of Oa to simply INN Moe esee ef the stainees_ me his remarks vote at Ai we emote Om in Mei Tali mid he set lea sae meensat its efigs a the kart y he Mt at the et Ms Mi honied hided, that Is isle alit* the reesumem dahlia the to lend Ide invel= bi trames end to sorry UM mm Om mist t rill tommeniatima AIM smiles.* time de tmffe, le die No• peepertion the Mime of to lie esemit Wm. die. OM nobbling Mooed isei by migemlog a Imitate% lordships mil both hierme - emilm to messed to the of Wee em etlel law Maim Thiammelha then dropped. The Sat if DERBY laid various reports aell perm ea their imihips* table, And, at italtpart 6 their lordships erlimmi. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDST, MASCII 12. The house nounambled this day. The Spasm cork the chair at 10 salivates to 4 o'clock. The folbwhig stsmbers, who bad vacated their scats by aseepdag !En mid who bare been re-elected, were sworn at the talk aid lush their seats :—Sir J. Pakingtoo (Droll wich), Kr. amiss , Mr. Henley C o t .(Oxford)hir) Sir F. Tboarpor , Mr. Walpole (Midhurst), o. Dean* T ( or Beresford (North Essex), the Marquis atClsondoi (Bockingham), Mr. Hanka (Dor set), Capt. Duammbe NEW Most RWRITS. g of Yorkshire). OA the MOM of Mr. F. MACILLIITIR, new writs were ordered bt dm Seethes DIMMOII of Salop, in the room of Viosormt Nowport, tubs lilzsted the dim of Vice- Chamberlain Carl the the of BEM Itotand, in the room of Vbasent Galway, who atergird the adios of one ore PET ITIO NS Waiti es P i ztata MATMOOTII ORANT.—By Sir R. INGLIS, from Bandon, Rom, and War places; Mr. SPOON ER, from IS congrega tions in Bingos - Imm; and Mr. HUME, from Arbroath, against. Ortax Prway POATAOI.—By Mr. FACILE, from Lei cester; Mr. °RESPELL, from 'Preston, in favour of. PHARMACY BILL.—By Mr. T. BARING, from Lincoln shire; Mr. CASSELL, from Cireacester; Mr.COBBOLD, from Stowmarket ; Mr. BENNET, in favour of. ADMIRSION or Jaws TO PARLIAMtNT.—DT Mr. BAR ROW, from Buck', against. Tan KAFFIR WAR.—By Mr. MUNTZ, from Birming ham, praying the house to admit measures of conciliation towards the MAW. LAW OF LANDLORD AND Duraxv.—By Mr. MONSELL, from the parishes of Crough sad Kilferry, county Limerick, in favour of Mr. S. Crawford's MIL PRIVATE BILLS. The following Bills were snmally mad a _second time— K irkby Steven and Hawes Bowl Llemorifts gad Teak shire B.ailway ; Loma Railway • Klas/awAs and South port Railway ; Manchester, Sieaskt, and Unooloshlro Railway (No. 01 Manchester, SWIM, and Lissoisehire Railway (No. 2); Marsden Oisbume, and Long FMK= Roads ; Middlesborough and Guisbroligh Sanwa ; Norfolk Railway; Shre sad Birmingham and and Chester Rail AmolgonMSistai Cairns Hallway* and a lailways, Ilse a rt=- ton =I Dreamers Railw ay;Wallasey kagrovoramt Welmrimmitek Junetion Railway ; Briush Elschis Tele graph °meow (by order) ; Eastern Counties Rail way (Powers - to Ulk tho East Anglian Zallway); Great Wotan Railway (No. 2) ; the Essen Book ; and the limegstri Royal llarboar Bills. BRITISH ELECTRIC TEL] BILL. COMPANY On the war of the day for the second reading of this bill, Mr. NLCANDO said, by this ell, mare extreardeem powew wee prat tep te be lame thee bed ever has eme math Ws • . The liosis Sea el ale reargEs was= sf the eimpeass. The plead Mapiee was thit e t iCte Ter graphCamperrledasesespely,selthetkerataimble to destroy thea menspely; bet Illatthaspasy bed gime sea. = n e to eased eitb. The Delia Mesas Wriptwh y mega power to astir epee my nay of Imemeay and te bp down pees ea aim spagebre, a pear which se saw magma_ pereemd. Means* th at ihe bill be read a eased time the deg is meas. la FARRIS said the 'besmear the bee. IL =ea. it eppered te e =z o nght rather town Mare a seed sir DM L. MUMS said Ohba gee this ens er to hale ewe the establishment of this 'a ambles epee any railway in the Me ht thesegears eight not to be gran mew they were gcanteel to saw companies also. Mr.IIIIIOOIIMOOR tread that the bill weld be al eiceris:jsentitesosesammittee. N said he had a highly rewsetable list se Ids weriteesses, who was vary seems that the hill awed go late ammeter. Mr. MOWATT sell the eseepsay mega thepeaimise to avail theme/we of As pun Maitre Met them sew lines of railway aided the eablishiag an seeds esemanke time with all parts of as klepies. It wee 'lased that the bill gme parse. Why, et "mese, as, east have pewee, ethenries they east be, um they had been entire y at the Emmy of the railway Muds. Mr. OLYN 'said he was am of cress who, (lima and ladirestly, was atash meet up with the trammatises al leeway Me be bed yet to lens the as am preatass it • mesa& eteapital in Wady: the mate ease weal glee la NA ether penises to the habit of wag the shah taMsph any rale% Whomever two ememenles bed get weissa rights is ema trice vs % lesesetead of asepilleg, they embeed for teemed adet. Re theralbee emsered It tele be a fer ules Wm that a ~irides of the awls eyed be elated l er ba sd ea ea g two mompeere. int he claimed seem Ilea ae on the pest if the railway esemeam This bill would intiodses a gehelpie that bed hese hitherto considered objestimalis,—.l•lo.te sempres a Iseible wer of esioriss as annum for the perms re po on their ow worTm. It that were awe leirethmeed be ' to state that the responsibility white um reeled es directors would be reneged lam them, the it weed be he. possible that they weld ewe the paths safety Vpmesee could go on the lines to w their awn works. Mr. ROEBUCK said the a of this bill was really tote away with a monopoly. The tele gra ph was not used one-tenth as much in this eseatry es is Jimmies, and whet he wanted was that this couruby _Arad haw the Meat et that great discovery that our Mods Mt the ease ea etas Atlantic enjoyed. If they allowed des bM te they . did no injury to any human being; they se no pnvate property whatever, for railway* WO set minty; and they would be doing greet geed , by the = generally an opportunity to haw the lase die telegraph. The house then divided on the second reading. Ayes Nos 6O-130 TOR► RIMS% bat to "bleb as or occasional gnats were =am by the angherity of MINS filmrliapeat. IMMO/3 MOTORS.. Mr. W. MILI4IIII gave notice that on Tandor o the 23rd et Mush, be dwell sail the &thistle& ef the Wee to tin %MarINA b 44 takes flees _ stas the cvieseasst of . &wills l % i le=ri 7: d ata*: beet, lilt the Chasselhe et is Isehiquar if he bid may etgeettes to Its apes the table el the haw all the paper respiedmr r eit Wares la =Waugh& if dui men already be. em. Mr. HiRRIES, in awing that, on asioant of the A MMO. of tbe Chimeras( of the =T. the scary e =atm iambi slabs Woos until le Mr. Amboy to Adak teen being es spas k=; l ?siotlas for on salves on lie esbeest taf the Es& India Company (of whist that goalluna 1•1 g h soda) stating that it was the ististles id the government to propose at an early period a armanatas es the &Nest. Mr. &MUST wee musTE sted to the gAr POLlCprepeeition of lir. Herrin. THZ iY. Mr. sumlierlitia - ii. ciemssik;r7ri& Exchequer would be able to state OR Mender seat what his intentions were with raped to the ewes of policy be meant to par son He (Mr Haan) wished in particular to know what th=hrtris egnitieara inianded to do with respect to the ef esenky whisk had been appointed upon the Wine t.l Idt. WALPOLI Iheught It would be more convenient be*, hilmin to wait until his right hon. friend flhe OliseiW of the Rethequer had taken his seat. In W elearia, and without knowing what his intentions cl aw 7 .,. 1,, c ,. 2 161p010) could only state that the lige him. weld no doubt make sash a 'tan ned. THII ARCTIC EXPEDITION. Os the motion that the house on its rising do adjourn till Monday neat, A conversatirm originating to a pats put by Hr. An stay, resulted is SS 81111111111N1 /1411111 lin Staboi that every imilski 7 . IMMO w ere Wm to St eel at the eadlied sear *a air and le end te the Mae Nihon sad of tio norammall Sot see orpheyben *pada ea Mist serrien Thu milie, fur the nljoinenanat of the lame, was then put MIN the shaft, sad art In TARLLIKENTARY REPRESENTATION BILL. On the elder for the second reading of this bill being rod, Mr. I'. BUNCOMBE presented a petition from a publis meeting of the inhabitants of Finsbury, praying for oleo tonal reform. Mr. HUME prenstid a petition from Loughborough. Partthat thenninsomight be enfranchised. WALIi polooneed a &idea ham Parr. is bar of hoasehdd aller h ge letk oosizobl i r i v . r. . = = arik. d 4.e property qualificaticin, samillfre P=Sof minas. J. RUSSELL said that in stating the 001111111 Oki le =Oat to pursue with respect to this bill, and as stuns slide deed is the paper in his ammo, ho did get TY* alle=lizto ce ba l i te wished mere mimrtae ly to state th wn m e a t i ts if tie no a mi s lialks esstairreer Ein leer Ma. mew maw spark As the throne. He did not that be *nil la abbe to soy through _with ague •an of this impart Pea es ea isillfflard wan of pationent ; he dada did aM part ft pared wah the pant bill in the coarse dMI. - sissies. Ha detail IMMO,' not preclude himself inn an egesefewlers ff be the It to take it, of insolag any gavel denied* an dr gegen of the ositiaalis el the framed* imil in amessirms se the regniinaa. (Hear, heir.) The eels Me rear pipped en Tr le we that the mud nail ji Ibli 11111 he Peered for Woe Imo. ere Rem la bad Haled not sq 34, to mead Mk the MN ifre pevonting bribssp e l he kepi la peal alb list bill. Ns. dial the adds Mod hed alai to lba si grer il = the anieasion ; fee dreo was kr Vie inhabitants of this nary ft u sli t i le state of the revalidation. That bill, *nigh aid isperfeet, was • step is des right dire°. ties._ gad it Eight have been improved is . He teats a nadellaad why, as the noble lief Miles Saw aordias iniseined MU for the reform of pedimmat, he add ant seer have given the reformers an of shaeffielp ant their real opinions were. The iaaor prima Waft this gartioa ta aa issue, the ro! y pen woad bo ado with poblie Wank sa dry had &at nom la aspiria of*, esella et dee oak rid la set pc nag hi bilL Re would lesser see .k a bill Y the Ira tif the nolike lord don of any alher liberal reatber. lir. W. WILLIAMS was glad to bar drag the noble lard bad not abandoned the cause of rehire, though he bed aboadosed his bill. When ho did bring forward another mews, he kepi it would be more satisfactory than the last. Mr. T. BUNCOMBE said there were two other NOM/ width the noble lord might have panned, either to hew brought in • better bill, or have allowed this to be amended in inmanittee. lie believed it to be capable of amendment, =lt It sight be said is such a sue that very little of it be left. Perhaps so ; but they had had precedeat he this. When the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill of lost ii cr pond through committee, themwas scarcely a el the original bill. (Hear, hear.) This bill w ee to intend die rights, privileges, and liberties of the peoples ; why was it to be withdrawn in this way ? Certainly, the noble lord bad a)ight to withdraw it if he chose. The Mt for three months was tantamount to its with t= why not withdraw it at NM ? If the noble lord did not think it worth the sesephmee of the house, nobody else would stand up for it. It would fell very much like his cabinet, without a single regret, or a band stretched out to save it (Laughter.) lie understood they were net now to say a word to disturb the repass of " the country party ;" and ho was quite willing to abide by that, until . the country party " was anapiate on the baba oppo site. (Laughter.) On Malley he laid to hoar an of them ; and he hoped they rad be well wpm* toresolve the compliments of the menint which he had no doubt would be studiously pew( and bountifully hared upon them. But he waited to haw, en the part of his eon sutuents, whether this quideselpealiemenegy rats was to stop where it wae—whithie ft amid se eight le de so. The noble lord would nee tail his pada at regard to reform unless he enabled the law to liar the whole question in the present amain, sad istridad a bill which should satisfy the** iiggeonis of Ike par._ Mr. 0. BERKELEY maid the bill bad Ude peculiarity, that it did not please any party. The motion that the ball be read • second time that day three months was then agreed to. PREVENTION OF BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS BILL. On the motion of Lord J. Rams. the mead read ing of this bill was postponed till WannedinAire la att. SUITORS IN CMLNCSBY MUM , SILL. Sit W. P. WOOD mid ko proposed to leave thia bill in the hands of the prasedipiesmment ; and ho linelai there would be no delay is plug an with it. Ammar bill lad come down from tho air beams which proposa to eisdieh the office of wan of . lade of thus bilk was not only of isapertance b Vrt i he men weft saran. Mr. WALPOLE said the Lord ChneOer add that day aka • straw in the other has ea the oaret, width he triad woad be Intimately be dr oroidiy, as showing that the noble and learned Irk, rehie was ea able to undertake the renter of Chary as as pops alive, was prepared to do it. (Ghsers.) We Medd look as the bill for abollaing the OEM if orrotery sibilant& with out delay ; nal be believed the neveormat add la pe prod to take that bill in lad. Au le the bill ars bie the are, ha appal amid every 11111110 of ii n t in ti that to one part _be had oblate* la net which charged the when with the m ama of tie court by a plasmas en dr arsey rigidamp it, instead of by few be= all oar= alike. da* paper to am rdast as dud pad el the bill, air am to as or tadausas dread mar rave any maw she pia** ; mad If his liaised Arai abed Ira to *n arks that 641, he should be kw le do so. (Hear, The ) Tha second reading of the bill Tr postponed till Friday next. PARLIAMENTARY REPRESENTATION (IRE LAND) BILL, AND I'ARLIAMENTRY REPRE SENTATION (SCOTLAND) BILL. The second reading of these bills was postponed for-three months. PASSENGERS ACT AMENDMENT BILL. In answer to Sir W. KOLIOWORTH Sir J. PAKINOTON said it was his intention to proceed with this bill, and he would move the second reading on Monday next. ST ALBANS DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL. Sir G. GREY said this bill bad bees needled to any out the recommendations of the sarinimare. dram OM* wineleation he had had with the right hon. goadsinen the Sae Secretary, he understood OM the government ewe. te proceed with the bill, and he weld therefore leave it la their hands. Mr. WALPOLE moved that the bill be now road a amend time. Ile. J. BELL said it was not to be expected that he ileseid allow the bill to without making one aspiring Mort. (Leander.) However strong might be the preja dile of the bons, and however forlorn the hope of sue ten, ho should not Slade from his duty. The subject of elections was one in which he had never kiner lia ded I.lY" Lt * Tthe a l gl i tubin the as tan i; Ze he ad h b e serre inv e ntor hiuf of a spoon whisk _prevailed long before he was born ) and wend pasha* der so after he wee dead. (Hear.) Though the ashoee - elf the system would be quite impossi ble—for se see In the hare detested it more than he did, or had pear rasa to detest it—(laughter)—yet it was quite a Marna quielies whether it was just and proper to meals the ortaria of the law in the manner proposed es the borough et EL. Alba. He might advance some plea which would hdisesee the house. Pint, it was essiestury, when wind parties were arraigned under the someoleige, sad ow turned Queen's evidence, that that one dead be =pitted while the others were punished. Is the pelmet katelies, St. Albans had turned Queen's adore, .d bed &sod la posse ken of the house sore very radii hallenrea, whisk add enable them to purees esentption with emcees theregheat the kingdom yet the only borough to be punished was the one which had reedited this service. (Hear, hear.) Again, when a con tagion was extorted front any party under a promise of in &meaty from punishment, it was unjust and illegal to take advantage of that confession as a pround for indicting punishment. It was oil ing to the implicit confidence re- ErLiby the parties concerned in the good faith and honour of the house, that the inquiries of tho commissioners at St. Albans were so readily answered ; and that good faith would be seriously implicated by in-' runtic BUSINESS. THE SUGAR DUTIES. Mr. J. WILSON gave notice that on Monday neat he should put a question to the right hon. gentleman the Be cretary fur the Colonies, ea to what were hie intestine with n wet to the motion on the sugar duties, of which hot had given notice. THE MARBLE ARCH. Colonel SlBTliialga --- vnotice of his intention to move fur returns relating to the ezpenscs which had been incurred in the removal of the marble arch. (Laughter.) RELIO101:8 ENDOWMENTS. Mr. ANSTl:llTtaTenotice next, in redemption of a pmmise which he had made to the hon. member for North Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner), he should move for a return of all religious educational and cha ritable) institutions permanently endowed under the autho rity of acts of parliament, and also for a return of other Institutions of the same nature not permanently endowed, ENING, MARCH 18, lBB2. dieting a bury punishment on the borough. It might be said that the indemnity from punishment did net refer to the borough in its corporate capacity, bat to the Witt duals admitting that they were guilty of bribes?. But it was usual to construe the words of an act of esarmt in their plain meaning; and they explicitly stets* that the parties giving information should be indeMdfied heft all gibs, penaltra,and disabilities whatsoever; bet flits wawa eft be earned out if they were deprived of the traddee. The bill now before the how* was one of the.. which bed been brought forward, for the ostensible plume of pat= i an end to bribery and corruption ; and he odd show the three altogether would not effect the els)pat. Is ad ' reform dieeussions he had over heard, either it the harmer out of it, be had heard any Miners =ado to what he believed was the primary and principal mum of riftelitiee —the extreme severity of the laws sgahot it, whereby they had become inoperative. Ile could produce indium of the fact, that those laws were inoperative. At the last election for St Albans, where every we might suppose there were abundant opportunities for carrying out those laws, a bill had been issued, stating the penalties incurred by giving or taking • bribe, and offering to prosecute any case, free of expense, on evidence bid 1 supplied—the reward of 1,000/. or 6001. to below' to the party producing the evidence. This bill was sign I • gentleman who, at the time of the election, his services at 10 guineas a-clay ; and he offered these services gratuitously to any one who, in that rich har vest of corruption, would voluntarily bring forward a single offender. Yet, so inoperative wow the law, that not a ungle man would sell his evidence, even for 6001.. Every attempt at improvement, instead of 'seeking to render the laws easier to be carried into effect, had iiicreased their stringency, and nuide it impossible to carry them out. Dur ing the 13 months he had been in purgatory—(laughter)-- he had made • great many inquiries on the subject—he knew very little of it before—and he found these laws were so excessively strict, and the penalties so tremendous,thatit was utterly impossible to carry them into effect. (Hear, hear.) (It was impossible to carry out any oleo don consistently with the law. There were voters who came from a distance ; and tho common rites of hospitality were denied; they must not even have a glass of beer ; and if the sitting member, or any one in his behalf, was proved to have offered them any refreshment he would he unseated. Were these laws literally carried into effect an agent would be subject to accumulated penalties of about 160,0001., and to an imprisonment of 300 or 400 years. (Inaghter.) That I k e was the literal interpretation which any lot a lawyer would put upon the law. When cheeps was a capital crime the majority of the offenders were padehed at all, and those who were punished only IS dr manse principle as St. Albans was to suffer now. circuit the judges assembled sometimes, sad saliWolli stealing has been rather common lately, we bell WNW km. a few prisoners;" and, on account of this detraderits. men suffered who never expected to be hanged st dL (Laughter.) Owing to this stringency* custom had prevalent at elections which had aoquirod the of law. There were certain expenses which wise illegal, but which, nevertheless, must be paid—not the purest election in tho world could be conducted without them—and yet, in the strict letter of the law, they endangered the scat. Consequently it was necessary to employ various agents. The genus ' parliamentary agent"' comprised several species. Those who performed the " awkward business " must be cunning, and ingenious, and able, and have a contrivance in their hand to meet every ease. They mot be indefatigable, fear nothing but defeat, care for nothing but victory. They must sacrifice reser thing to serve their principal ; sod while transac • Ihe most objectionable business behind his back, they must a smooth countenance when they come into his . They . must make him believe that they were the= sons in England to sanction bribery, and be able at the same time to perpetrate the most unblushing bribery in the most daring manner, and yet so as to shield themeless from discovery ; for in some cues, the more openly a thing was done, the leas likely was it to excite suspicion. The house might imagine a committee room of which the candidate knew nothing, and had heard nothing, but where meetings took place between the agent and the electors, when something like the following dialogue passed. The agent said, " Well, Mr. Smith, how do you do 1" holding up three fingers. (Laughter.) The elector replied," Oh, I'm not well at all to-day." " In deed," said the agent, " I'm lorry to hear that ; what's the matter with you 1" holding up five fingers. (Laugh ter.) " Oh," said the elector, " It's nettling ; I'm better now, thank you." (Great laughter.) The agent then winked • the elector looked out of the window. The ageat placed dye sovereigns on the table ' • he then looked out at the window. The elector came to the table, and when the agent looked back the sovereigns were pee L hat he WNW saw them taken. (Laughter). Then when ible eleMMeee Mt to inquire into the election, the agent mom dose he had never paid any ono any money, and the elector MIMI that he had never bad any paid to him. No jpeeMille was asked or given. The elector west sat tram the vent per fectly free to vote in any way ho pietas& Thus le was not compromised in the slightest degree ; sad whirler per juring himself at all, he swore that he had not been bribed. The five honourable gentlemen who had been appointed to search their unfortunate colleague whispered to each other—" This seems to have been cleverly ma naged, but there is no evidence." Upon which the learned counsel for the sitting member stood up, and said—" I leave it to you, gentlemen, if this is not • trumped up case. They all swear that no money was paid or received. I must call upon you to find that the petition was frivolous and vexatious." (Hear.) This was only one method in which bribery was carried on. lie had heard of 16 or ie guineas being given for a canary bird or a wanithergem. (Laughter.) There is another method, which was mash much more easy to practise without detection—that et employing; people for various purposes, and paying them. There were usually a great number of agents, spies,weretas tics, and messengers, all retained for five or six weeks pre parstory to an election, and paid so much • week. Thais were put down as leg al charges, though almost the only service these people performed was at the hustings or polling booth. Some of the most important thus employed were spies, whew duty it was to be looking about among tho people on the other side, and to obtain informed= as to what was going on ; and thus it was that candidates knew of all the " awkward bedew" going on on tho other side, but were kept in immure, being surrounded by a halo of their supporters, of what was done on their own. If one of the candidates happened to be connected with an influential newspaper, which gave all the tittle-tattler of the borough, it might readily be supposed that all the slander of the other aids would appear in that paper as fast as it was reported by the *pia, and would thence be copied and embellished by other papers—rat much to the advantage of the repetatkm of the Warmer; candidate. The agents In those mei hareagls ammieed se great an influence that they maid retata umm / mce paean whom they wished, and it was smatter of no for wham they acted. They obtained a great of information with respect to the borough ; and, like the Spartan ber, they would rather have their entrails ten than let kit known that they carried • fox in their became. Bat= I mightsometimes be caught tripping. They become too venturesome from long impunity, _and might at last find • their way into prisons. Whoa there their friends would know nothing of them.; but yet men did not scruple to visit them with • view to the next election, if there should be one. (Ikar, hear.) One man was exhibited as an example before the world, if he wee found out, whilst another, who was exactly guilty of the same practises, walked into the house as bold as brass, and s'ood us pure as if he had been to Rome, and received absolution from the Foes himself. (Laughter.) What was the effect of this system on the members, on the con stituents, and on public opinion ? With respect to the members, the course usually followed was this : Ho was applied to by one of the "awkward" agents,and, in the first instance,asked fora certain sum amain to tut tho borough. This might be 1001., 3001., or 3001 ., sessediag to the apple tite of the agent. The agent, like a keteme-teller, could not tell anything till his hand wee erased with iseley. He was neit asAnd kr SOW., 4001., or 4001. for legal es pmsea. Bat this was sot all. kw therm was a forth., yam to bepaid 14 days after the masher had rhea his seat ,• sad , as to how this money was expeadad. he was told that he was not to ask any gnostical whatsoever. If the timber said, he would not anneties bribery, mad that he liked to have everything above-bard, the agent mita that he would have nothing to do with bribery, bet that there were two or three permits who divided the borough amongst them, and if they did not get so much money they could not divide the borough. He (Mr. Bell) was not se old anger, he was not up to these tricks of the trade, ad so ho fell into the trap. (Hear, hear.) The effect ea the electors was quite as bad, it was perhaps even weer thee the effect on the members. He looked upon an Meths like a Christmas coming at an uncertain period. It made them care little for the politics of the candidates. If you ask an elector what party he belongs to, he will probably tell you he goes with the "blues." If you ask him about the corn laws he will tell you that he knows nothing about them, though be will tell you he would rather get a loaf at 6d. than at le. The effect on the public mind was equally bad, for when people knew that mem bers got into that house by these means, it was impowdble to respect laws made by such parties. The people mart despise the house, and the laws pared by it, and con- , temn the hypocrisy with which corrupt practices were branded by its members. Bribery was a disease exactly like the small pox. (Laughter.) It was contagious—it left a mark which continued us long as life itself—and the con tagion only operated where there was susceptibility to take it. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) Now, the object should be to infuse into the public mind a purer feeling on the subject, to make it • disgrace either to bribe or to receive bribes. It might be said that this was a utopian idea. But even in St. Albans itself there were '2OO electors who had not been impeached at all; and he believed that number might be increased. No reform bill would cure the evil. It was proved before tho St. Albans Commission that the Reform Bill increased the bribery there. Ile did not believe that even the ballot world cure the evil, for the awkward ageat would still contrive to know how much the agent would stead, and the " man in the moon," ur " the man in the helmet," or " the hole in the wall," would still continue to give bribes. Ile believed, therefore, that even with the ballot end small constituencies they would hove as much bribery as before. (Hear, hear.) Then was a great deal of talk about St. Albans bribery, as if other places were not just as bad. Why, the briber , / at St. Albans was but a milk score com pared with the bribery which took place in a large consti tuency in the metropolis, which he would not name. Let them apply the proper cure to these things. Let them not enjoin penalties for bribery which they knew would never be inflicted, but Kt the penalties be such ns would be in- Hided in every case of proved bribery. Let them get rid of the trial by it committee of five member of that house, who might ho as guilty of bribery themselves rot the party whose cast they were trying, and let them instead issue a commission, as in the case of St. Albans, and punish the parties if they did not give tvi- deuce. lie could bear testimony to the excellent man ner inwhich the St. Albans commissioners conducted that inquiry, sad he respected them as a child respected his father, who corrected him for not performing his duty. (Laaghter.) A mouse was not more helpless before three bell terriers, than a witness was before them. (Laughter.) If one shoed him, the next was sure to whip him up, and the third swallowed him. (Laughter.) Ile confessed that if he had been a member of the committee which tried bib eleetka, he should have found himself guilty; for, though an attempt bad been made to bottle up the corruption, he knew it was there, for he had smelt it. ( . Hear, hear," and laughter.) He should use every exertion himself to put down bribery and corruption, but this bill was not cal culated to effect that object. He should like to ace other boroughs put to the same ordeal as St. Albans. The elec tors of that borough were told that they would not ho punished for giving their evidence ; and though it was true that no fines had been inflicted, yet capital punishment was about to be inflicted, and that was worse than a fine. (Hear, hear.) He claimed indulgence, therefore, for his borough. It was in the mud, and he was in the mud with it, but ho would never shrink from performing his duty towards it. If. would now move that the debate be adjourned ; he would not say for three sr six months, though that would answer his purpose very well, but simply that it bo adjourned, particularly as he expected a petition from some electors of St. Albans on the subject. The amendment not haring been seconded fell to the ground. Mr. HUME said he could not refraie from thanking the government for taking . up this bill, and was willing to take it as an earnest, notwithstanding what they might do on other subjects, that they would go further in the same di rection. (Hear, hear.) lie believed there were from 60 to 90 boroughs in the same category as St. Albans, and he trusted that similar measures would he adopted towards them. Ho believed that hid hon. friend did not desire to violate the law, but was drawn in by the system which prevailed. (Hear, hear ) Sir DE L. EVANS joined with his hon. friend in thank ing the government for persevering with this bill. Ile thought that the hon. member for St. Albans was entitled to some sympathy from the hones, when it was well known that there were more experienced culprits who had escaped detection. He therefore hoped that the government would not stop at the borough of Bt. Albans, but apply a remedy to boroughs of equal notoriety, and that they would assist him in reference to the inquiry into Harwich. The bill wee then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Friday. PERSONAL ESTATES OF INTESTATES BILL. On the motion of Mr. U.. 4. HAMILTON, The house went into committee on this bill, Mr. Baillie in the chair. Clauses up to 4 were agreed to. On clause 5 Mr. ANSTEY said he thought words of limitation ought to be added to extend the righte of parties, by giving them the option either of having remorse to this cheaper and more expeditious remedy, uhe admitted it to be,orof having recourse to a suit in equity, an action at law, or a bill of right to the sovereign. Ile was the more anxious to press this because there was no clause withdrawing from the operation of the bill suits now pending against the crown, and it was difficult to say what construction the judges might put upon the bill. ATTORNEY-GENERAL said there we. nothing in Ike bill to interfere with the rights of parties. The latter pert of the sixth clause declared that the money should be pia late the Oftwelideted Fund in the first instance, and if gm peep awn eillerwerdi establish his claim to the Miff or say pert of it, he we. to get it out. (Hear.) Sir C. WOOD confirmed the view taken by the Attorney- General. The clause was then agreed to, as were the remaining einem and the bill pseud through committee. THE BRITISH MUSEUM. Mr. HUME gave notice that he would take an early op wtunity of asking the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he was prepared to carry out the re commendations of the temunesioners with regard to the management of the British Museum. The house adjourned at half-pact seven. My Court. OSBORNE, FRIDAY. Her Majesty and Prince Albert, with the royal children, walked, and rode yesterday in the gardens and park at Osborne. Mr. Glyn, M.P. and Mr. Swift, as a deputation from the London and Nor th Western Railway Company, had an in terview yesterday with the Right Hon. J. W. Henley and Lord Colchester, at the railway department of the Dpard of Trade, on the gunge qnestion. Thu Earl of Loudly's, Lord President of her Majesty's Frivy Council, will give a cabinet dinner on Wednesday next, at his residence, on Carlton-house terrace. Viscount Hill had an interview yesterday with Mr. Se cretary Walpole, at the Home•office. The Chancellor of the Exchequer returned to town last evening from attending:his election. A deputation from railway companies against the British Electric Telegraph Company had an interview with the Right Hon. J. W. Henley, yesterday, at the railway department of the Board of Trade. The deputation consisted of Capt. Tyndale and Mr. B. Oliveira, from the Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway Company; Mr. Stable, from the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway Com pany; Mr. Ricardo and Mr. Dicey, from the North Staf fordshire Railway Company; Mr. Venable', Mr. M'Gregor, and Mr. Freeman, from the South Eastern Railway Com pany; Mr. Coates, from the Railway Clearing House; and Mr. Bidder. Despatches were sent from the Colonialciffiee yesterday to the governors of the North American provinces. (From Lot NW' Gazelle.) LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, MARCH 2. No tice is hereby given that her Majesty will hold a levee at St. James's Palace, on Wednesday, 24th March instant, at 2 o'clock. LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, MARCH 2.—No tice is hereby given that her Majesty will hold a drawing room, at St. James's Palace, on Thursday, the Ist of April next, at 2 o'clock. OSBORNE, MARCH 11.—His Royal Highness Prince Albert has been pleased to appoint William Drage Montagu (commonly called Viscount Mandeville) to be Lord of the Bedchamber to his Royal Highness, Tice the Viscount Clifdca, res*ned. CROWN•OFFICE, MARCH 12.—Members returned to serve in this present parliment :—College of the Holy Trinity of Dublin : Joseph Napier, Esq., LL.D., her Ma jesty's Attorney General for Ireland. Portarlington Lieut.-Col. Francis Plunket Duane, of Brittas, in the Queen's County, Clerk of tho Ordnance. Yorkshire, East Riding : The lion. Arthur Duncombe, of Kilnwick Percy, One of the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty. Dorset t/air° : The Right lion. George Henke', of Studland, in the said county of Dorset, her Majesty's Judge Advocate- General. R ises, Northern Division The Right Hon. William lieresford, her Majesty's Secretary-at-fit ar. Ox fordshire : The 'tight Hon. Joseph Warner Ilenley, Presi dent of the Committee of Privy Council for Trede and Plantations. Enniskillen : James Whiteside, Esq., her IdAjesty's Solicitor-General for Ireland. MMIIISSIONS SIGNED BY THE LORD LIEUTENANT OP LANCASH las.—Francis Dukinfield Palmer Astley, Esq., to be deputy-lieutenant. MELTON MOWERAT AND THE MINISTRY.—Tho sporting metropolis probably never presented a more dreary and chilling appearance in " the season" than it does at this time. Generally after Christmas there is an accession to the ranks, but this year it is not so. Tho cause of the company being now so remarkably small is attributed solely to the elevation to power of the Earl of Derby, and the consequent appointment of some Meltonians to high office s in the state. Tho Comptroller of the Household, the Vice- Chamberlain, and tho Clerk Marshal have been appointed from here ; and, if appearances warrant a supposition, it is probable that the future ambassador at one of the great con tinectal courts will bo found in the person of a nobleman who has made Melton Mowbray his tome. All these, and the peculiar circumstances contingent upon the shadow e events, bare been the main cause of the " lull" in this town. —Stamford Mercury. Intelligence reached Southampton yesterday that Captain Austin, the Arctic voyager, has been appointed Admiralty superintendent of mail packets at Southampton. The salary is 6001. a year. Admiral Corry, the late superin tendent, is preparing to leave Southampton. FATAL ACCIDENT TO A LADY OF TlTLE.—Yes beaky about soon an accident occurred to the lady of Sir Edward Graham, of Esk, which unfortunately termi nated fataUy. Her ladyship was in the act of calling upon a friend, residing at ho. 23, Metropolitan-buildings, Old St. Pancras-road, and having ascertained that her friend was absent from home, she was retracing her steps down the stone staircase, when she missed her footing, and fell vio lently into the passage, her head at the time coming in con tact with the door of an apartment, situated at the foot of the stairs. Mr. C. Candland, the collector of the rents, was immediately on the spot, and despatched messengers to three medical gentlemen, each of whom, it appeared, was out, it then being their visiting hours. Mr. Candland, fearing delay, removed her to the Free Hospital, Gray's Inn-road, where the house surgeon made an examination, and per that life was extinct, her ladyship having dislocated her neck. Her ladyship was 30 years of age, and at the occurrence of the accident was accompanied by her son, aged 7 years. Tra: SOUTIIAMIPTON RIFLE CORPS have selected their practice ground, having contracted for a shed similar Ito those used by the Swiss Rifle Clubs, and the targets are about to be erected in them. Many persons are willing to pay tho subscriion of a guinea annually and purchase a rifle without jo saing the corps. A bugler late of the 00th Rifles has been engaged to take charge of the shed, targets, &c. Many persons also are willing to subscribe in order to' support the club without intending to practise. Mr. Bas sett, the honorary secretary to the corps, has received numerJus communications from other clubs, by which it apps ars rifle corps arc rapidly forming throughout the country. T. W. Fleming, Eur., of Stoneham-park, near Southampton, has taken the greatest interest in the forma tion of the Southampton Rifle Corps, and is affording it most valuable assistance. iAY Cite eritreoo. TO CORRESIPONDZNTS. t Second }dittos id "The Express,. cenallasne tba sons 'venire's t• Gamut," patelshod every Toady and Friday .410. ;a lime for post. t lTellaiumellit , Intended foe "The Exprosa,"Lor.don Etesina payer. moat be at the 001ce. 10. Hoevaritaalraet. by Too o'clock ea the day of pablltation. NIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE Tae lUT.MOrnillj, Th. 110. Afternoon. :a. 4ltn. Toatonsow—Maraing. Y. I$ -Afternoon. P. Soon. LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 13. ASIONO those whose opinions are received as oracular on questions relating to the tactics of popular and parliamentary movements con! idera ble difference prevails as to the wisdom of the course adopted by Lord JoHN RU:IaELL, with tho assent of the gentlemen who met at his house on Thursday, in relation to his reform bill. Lord ions has deferred the motion for the second rending of his bill for three months—that is, he intends to alma don it for the present. And to reconcile such of his friends as seemed disposed, with Mr. Di:smiler., to turn refractory on this score to his determination, Lord Jour intimated that, when he again brought for ward his reform measure, it should be with alterations and improvements. Those who approve of Lord Joss's determination urge that tho reception his hilt met, proves two things. In the first place, that though the public at large are convinced of the necessity of parlia mentary reform, they are not at this moment in a mood to exert themselves effectively to obtain it; in the second place, that the details of Lord Jons's bill gave satisfaction to no one section of reformers. On these grounds it is argued that to press such a bill at this moment would be sure to occasion dissensioos and divisions among the liberal opposition, and that therefore it was expedient to withdraw it. On the other hand, those who disapprove of Lord Joes'sdetermination,assert that if further parliamen tary reform was urgently and immediately required, with a liberal party in power, much more must it he Deeded now that a reactionary party is installed in cake. By hanging fire on the question of retiirtit in existing circumstances, they allege, Lord Joirsvir tually confesses that he introduced his bill less be cause lie believed it necessary than because ho thought it might increase his popularity ; and that he was deceived in his estimate of the importance attri buted by the public to parliamentary reform. They add that such conduct is not suited to inspire parliamentary reformers with confidence in the ex- Premier. W ith reference to the alleged dmger of dividing liberals, they suggest that Lord Joins might have taken the second reading on the prin ciples of his measure, promising to give due afters. tion to all objections and amendments in committer. They also represent that as among the great liberal party there aro some who attribute more immediate importance to ono class of reforms, and some to others, it is unwise and unsafe to manifest indiffer ence to any. As the Spectator said to Sir honer de Greeley, " much may be said on both sides." On the whole, however, the arguments of those who would have preferred seeing Lord JOHN press the second read mg of his bill at present seem the more weighty. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE and those who agree with him, it is insinuated, it is true, rest their claims to public support mainly on their advocacy of an extended suffrage, and may, therefore, be suspected of a personal bias. But if at tention is to be paid to this consideration, it might, on the other hand, bo alleged that the Manchester party have had imputed to them a too ' exclusive care for commercial interests. It is not the persons who urge the arguments on either side, or their possible motives, that ought to bo regarded. but the validity of the arguments themselves. And this must be kept in view, that the opponents of Lord DERBY who are likely to secede from the liberal ranks, because more reforms are insisted on than they think essential, are of that half-hearted class where earnest co-operation cannot be so certainly counted upon; while those who are likely to be dis gusted by an appearance of indifference to great and vital principles, are tho most active and indefatigable of the liberals. Timidity, over-caution, aro more damaging in assailants than in those who stand on the defensive. These weaknesses are more easily tolerated in those who seek to retain, than those who aspire to gain office. If the show of boldness which Lord JOHN RUSSELL sought to give himself by in troducing his Reform Bill, was required in the minister, much more must it be required iu the op position leader. Any appearance of faltering at the opening of his campaign against the new minis try may be most prejudicial to his cause. The wisdom of the opposition tactics is, however, all things being taken into account, but a secondary consideration. What is of mach more consequence is, that the public should be fully possessed of the vital importance of parliamentary reform. Unless it is so, no mere dexterity of popular or parliamentary leaders can ensure success to the cause. If the people are deeply impressed with the importance of electoral reform and eager to obtain it, their io:felaitis will more than make up for any casual mis - Ron of their leaders. Now, we need only refer to the columns of our con temporary the Times to show how essential to the pubic welfare is a large measure of parliamentary reform. Day after day has the 'Limes been exhorting the liberals not to enter upon what it is pleased to call a factious and irritating opposition to the Ditsie ministry. The reason assigned by the lYn,e. is, that Lord DEBBY may thereby be provoked to undertake in good earnest the restoration of protection, and that a dissolution of parliament may end in the res. turn of a protectionist majority. •But the Tise • pro fesses all the while to be friendly to free-trade, and that mainly because of its conviction that the national mind is irrevocably made up in favour of a free-trade policy. The argument of the Times, therefore, comes to this, that our representative system is so radically vicious, that an election will probably give Lord DERBY a House of Commons prepared to legislate alike in defiance of common sense and public opinion. Again, no further gone than yesterday, the Times, not contented with pouring out the vials of its wrath in a stream of vituperation upon the members of pars Bement who met at Lord JOHN Itussetis, bemuse they resolved not to temporise with the Dsiene mi nistry, taints them with their inability to resist it effectually. And wherein is that inability alleged to consist? In the inability of the gentlemen in question to meet the demands of corrupt electors. The Times does not pretend to say that the majority it anticipates for ministers in the event of an elec tion, is to be obtained by pure means, by ap pe als to principle unaided by corruption. The triumphant taunts of the Times rest upon the assumption that the great majority of the existing constituencies are so hopelessly and incurably corrupt, that it is cer tain they will barter their principles, and abandon the interests of the great public for selfish, short sighted, mercenary considerations. Such is the opinion entertained of our electoral system by the Times, the most blatant mouth-piece of the anti-reformers. Such is the view taken of it by those who, while they recommend the exclusive urging of the free-trade question, loot liberals should be divided, insist at the same time, upon its being urged uncompromisingly and without delay, in order that ministers may be forced to dissolve before they have time to avail themselves of their official influence to corrupt the constituencies. The very men who tell us in one breath that the cause of free-trade will be endangered by pressing the question of electoral reform at present, tell us in the next, that the help lessly corrupt state of the electorate renders it im possible to ensure a fair representation of the public interests and wishes in the House of Commons, un less the constituencies are taken by surprise and unawares. Without parliamentary reform it is vain to flatter ourselves that we can successfully struggle against the devices of re-action installed in office. Loid DERBY and his colleagues may have diseritninatimi enough to see the difference between a mere parlia mentary majority, and a majority out of 41,),,r , 1 hey may not wantonly insult public opinion, be ?mentos tiously running counter to it. But they will arid themselves of every subterfuge to make our nominal and oo s un o r c o a h l oe r e n p i r e e r s t t e , will obstruct, procrastinate, and postpone all ltres ntatotiotnheiinr tohholistl:rouesena.:.,l ti.ohine3; sary reforms that have yet to lso effected. filer will increase the arrears of sound legislation until thatpublic e uneas i ness odersr e vol u l '" to arrest them in their mad and self-willed career, and tioit adlilscio.nitteniotersait.oehllirto mi Pe stn ing elua liai to an