The Express. — London, England, 1853-04-26 00:00:00

IM PE ItIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSH OF LORDS.—MONDAY, APRIL 25. The LOAD Ca•Ncantoa took his seat at 6 reelock. PETITIONS PRESENTED. Ammeters or Jaws To Pauttsritest.—Ely the Earl of t ICKLOW, from Ca bury, and Mr. Alderman Salo- more; and the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, from Bir mingham, in Meow of. CANADA CLZILOT RES111•11:11 BILL —By Lord CAMP- BELL, fro% Caper in Fife, in favour ot.—The Bishop of LONDON, from several places; the Earl of EOLINTON, I , from Dalkeith and Dunkeld ; and the Earl of DERBY, I from Dumfries end ether plates ; arrest. Ca PALACS.—By Loa LYTTELTON, from working men of St. Barnabas, Kensington, against the opening of the Custal Palace on Sunday'. 1 1 /1/LIMOOTIL—By the Earl of WINCHILSEA. front several places against the continued endowment of May- h3o I Pl.:ls th. LIC 110U1s1111.—By the Earl of CARLISLE, from Kende, praying that pablic houses might bo closed on I Sundays. PAUL'S M . l'Arrliv—By the Earl of CAR LISLE, from several place in favour of • free distribution of parlimaeutary papers. THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE. The Margeis of ULANKICARDE rose to ask whether the gOvernmeat could lay any information before the house respecting the state of affairs in Turkey, and the negotia tions which it was said had been lately carried on between the Sublime Porte and certain great European powers ? Great anxiety had existed on this subject from the interest felt in the Turkish empire, in consequence of certain sweats which had taken place within the last few weeks. He hoped in this matter that the governments of France and England would act cordially together. He had no reason to suppose otherwise, or to distrust Russia, ex cepting from the °minutia appearance which Priam Idensehikoff 's embamy presented. If her intentions were honest, let them be openly and fairly declared. He was sure that any declaration made by the Emperor of Russia would be strictly carried out, but he was at a loin to con mime for what this minims was intended. There had been no aggression on the part of Turkey towards Russia, nor any breach of faith which she had committed; and this sadden :simian, paraded so ostentatiously before the world, mast ill the molds of the friends of Turkey with alarm. He complained of the secrecy which existed. He should wish Russia to be in fall and fair coninruniestion with as sad with France; sad he trusted that the French and British governments would act together, bemuse he was convinced that it it was known and proclaimed the peace of the world would be preserved. The noble marquis concluded by ask ing the question of which he had given notice. The Earl of CLARENDON said it was ad ea assesat of any want of official or cordial undewillesding between her hlejesty's government and the other gewerenseta ef Se rape, th.it he must decline to give his sold. friend all the ialeruastius which he required ; but it was because come of the negotiations to which he alluded were still pending, and altliough • portion of them might be said to be concluded, yet they had so intimate • bearing upon others which were not .eracluded, that be was sure tr lordships would sires with him when he said that • premature publication of theta shoald not be made. He thought they were bound, both by sound policy, national interest, and international law, to uphold the Turkish empire. (Hear, beer.) And he was happy to Worm their lordships that ia onasequeace of retreat cemomakattions with other goverameate they had received from rheas the suet cordial assurances that their views and polka were is re tie harmony with time of her Majesty's government, no therefore thought that Turkey had nothing te bee kin external oppreasioa ; not did he think that the bag= which threatened her from internal weakness, greet Se* they might be, seed threaten her deetrudies, pew sided ordinary prudence guided the eseelh fle die Porte. and • better policy dad noes limmais Intlilefte were adopted towards her Christiaa solialls. mash kw ! )) And it was with that elect that Lard keadoni la nalk• cliffs was instructed to return to kis pd, and • spaded character was given to Me mission, beware It was therm& that there was no man who, from his great abilities and keg experience in Turkish &Helm was in the seas fever. able position te offer advise to the Porte, and those as set one from whom the Porte would be as likely to none alb vice. (Hear, hear.) As to the our pink gee which his *obis friend wasted Inman. in first, as to the war Ia Maallallen. e IS the noble lard had said, illealinegro was die sod of warlike operatic's@ of an ezteneiweelhareeNr, whisk iralla not considered advisable by the Imo geweenisarteigg awe than by the present. Her ejety s Mgt d'Alliels it Constantinople was Jest/yea by his ones fileml at ii. Foreign•offic• to represent to the Pipe do expo& 16 5 .01.0 lion was likely to be prejudicial to Mt . and le be a great drain on her finaneial sail unitary The samii instruction were ~.,a nn by MS 11 but the expedition was mac on a 111.1 OW tenon he Montesegeo, which was theatilleet Wallillseaded ion to the Austrian geveranesellilse . liepliblillie onte of Montenegro oa Tur 10 that the kik . * vines! independent* of hie S MS. trey usdisturbe d i an oh sh e of a large Tiirkish mow is On rr teitory they =ill fl int le pet duller They were o to law a /err army GB the frontier to IPI"olt " fu r ls s i = over; and they teazel, hem tee it.arala spirit ef the Wiramederm an adelione s — na a ' war . might gnaw In waggons@ if M` the 1= ginepamest mat Own Libbers to It was on, as his amble Mead paid, the his was egetenliet of a peressnery shaseater, an J. Rai sed, easementsted wish the Awn= gnomon gag ten Moen kyreeetiag the me - ill gay threelseig hangs triiig i liffihrood to butlindsa • This woe olled to la a me i the ANNIE Inerameat, who said :a W me duke le wow. doh Modems Tangy • , Oil km le digest bin limn traditional glnips& be the Ottniga wane. (Mk s ban) ' int mg flat Isquired tate ell lbe dieeminew there was monis la them to 'airings mg pried* of kW. national law • bandetssit with gash dogma& as v_ friendly govirmenS se& TO, open earelmr. Win ow gard to the neat ' ll heal. to please her winos Having node Se Pisan gave--went mink egasugine Ile which appeared le be hessirielent win aisenisse of vioasly oasis the Emperor of lionk the Nallwas of Rusq. Peng the great Wont doe - Is the aid to arnoly Shrines, seat Poole NegAmbilidl eh a amid Woks, is order to armee *am Oaken an Ping do monism of the Rely /brine Ina a peeper fang, These an* ware envoi end sailing tespeadons mode at tbe gene On that Pekes measeshamer wet to Ogesaird sit bee ion bdiendi *ey balk been greedy • them had beget oe keens enelimer i eaf e lL e rtinEhil week tragaillige the mini of his seek Mead as sae part of the Emma et &sera. He mall say sa y that bee Idehoty's _ gewelumeM felt penehely he same esaidene that his nib Inn did in the keine gad integrity se the Ilasoree of linda, an that when he had given his weed as te what he wee rig to do or was nee going to ies they al& rely goo it. As he mid Were, was said ad aellikey weeesedsus he bed every ream le thin When swift molieled a nn the was whin W loss genels her • die len In _Aga as to the ban down mode by Prins kaaligeffern bad sikea be. Wogs@ whisk wen greatly mompsialei With regard to nylon it was well lersi that ease Mime Neale- AIME wield at Cinsigadariple CA. ligge aeon *inn Diadem le praised grin the out le the mdse. emi In Admisal Demi@ did age thin dint le mairly. Eh (Len Obegadoe) theight Ad mir al Dank, surd aletsaly; bat henna gay go Wolf of On Reim that he bmi in pit the kessellea parimed by has liajesses gemming god it was an misiatnial 110 he should feel - semi elaahar the rodieneat whisk the Mist ew rival of Priam idealiddisse had send ia The limn gewniemil amid nine te t e= l = Is Me Ilime sts 7l e va i Nog lee en of eray niendmein‘ kg bermes the geermilheal a ll kw =I: l e: wenn% whom there mind an rear is egoilbegat He had add that male hod been greatly eampteled he the pewee of areadep dots The iaformades abigh_gemennest had woe mule k a de. sewn hem Lewd Moaned de Daldfle. resihd . ogles that ea the 1411 i last. all was bike id gent He thought be had gives as wish kiknosiga as was_ egiedist le he glen emir the elmossesaese gad be weld anew Oak bobble@ Sal, se Pe emir he kn ew, then was se eager whatever of the gene of Senn bag di► use d, en net there was nay pempot of a perfect bar ony lomat the great WPM ef knee to maintain the et the h e mein. (Rear, hear.) b ra RACOON! add the statement of the noble earl was wry awaelas sal filled him with aonlidenee that the laurels et Tube, were perfectly safe. Bat there was a poise tooned ea by he sable sari on w hick he t nay aught le ban farther iakiagatioa, and with rolV il te vie be bowl to dicer hem If met. liim. He alluded Whir net to what wee psalm bet what nee the et the Again mower liege seasiodeC he thought wore *Midst% to bark the pangs kid on the talk of the nacre They were gadded to below what was the gegok if say ports which lad hew spa te us west dad s gad whether any were bed nommed aa Warshaw nisi it did net poems NW stood the tese et Sesemesee p That Nest* wee gabfest to Turkey, an a green of murder gad doe no gene as whisk the Turkish goverement spat ewe. Austria however, kne Leh * Tis We es= rl I S:t i rtr 1:16.1616" a T e rkel andigise rat Trues. eigh t as wdi hen inerter.d with Ankle when as Jews do inermelkil at 3it is knew it woe se isepertesse Se As—ls lbw Eriest nand tend them shine s emdl it we failieZ ea nal anent she bilerken It nil Wen ' Clbsrcan wee wse we t bathewhat ilib ibillia he would ley the earns es the able of do home If I The Earl of CLARENDON said he wall _.at ___, ll lime j momoat state whether he mad Is the paps gieergen le ea the table; bat If as iaenw. world tabs OP lis Path *orris% he skald he Midi to give ith l l l ll9 l.6 nmd„ wholesome's be and la On v i e Amok having gay he Veal obesne dot Am i ld ib e i r an is.,' gap dile tr 4 ation mend the enmity of Ting nor illaregage", r e .,____"' it deg the right pone of the Pan le puff... 9B . ".... PM.. who Sal begs gnizof ,... tla ems, sa g osa g 0; bat thsassimamegolas se kw a hen is eis rolawhf — gto be withdraws u son ase — Ei mr il doses awe gmehhed. Len BEAUMONT mid the egientisa made the ma man more setiefirese phut it wee Mike. THE CLWROT 1111111111118 BILL. The bens then wens into ocesmittee ea this bill,; Lord Rsamottis in die data The BAH el DEW Slid Wog the quoin was pet THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EYENISG, APRIL 26, 1853. - - trot; his Intention than to offer an offence to any one. But the noble earl himself bad not been strictly parliamentary in the language be hest Card to-night, for the noble earl in the course of debate made use of the words " shuffling @would& of the bin:" and perhaps, therefore, the noble himself would be glad to have this opportuaity, bee, of spo lagising to those whom his unguarded expressions were cal culated to offend. Hear," and a laugh.) The Earl of DERBY accepted of course the right rev. prelates enplessatims, but the right rev. prelate when he spoke of having smiled when he need his objectionable epithets should have remembered the quotation, " A man may smile, and smile, and be a villain still." (Cheers and laughter.) However, the right rev. prelate declared that he did not use the expressions offensively, and he in re turn could assure their lordships that nothing was further from his mind than to offend any one when he made use of the terms "abseiling evasion." (Hear,hear.) The Earl of CLARENDON roes is • very exeited when the noble earl resumed his seat, and ex claimed with considerable warmth, "We an not accus tomed, my lords, to hear such expressions used here, not even in the hest of debate. The term' shuffling evasions' was sufficiently unparliamestary ; but when we beer the exces sively offensive expression villain' addressed to any one of your lordships, but more espe.iially a member of the episco pal bench, it is indeed time to call the noble lord to order. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of DERBY said the noble earl's warmth was quite uncalled for, inasmuch as he applied the quotatio n in a laughing mood, and certainly without soy intention of imputing anything offensive to the right rev. prelate. But it was almost unnecessary for him to say even this much, since both the house and the right rev. prelate observed the jocular tone in which he spoke ' and he would take leave to advise the noble lord that before he again gave vest to his indignation he should wait until he himself became the subject of • personal attack. The committee then divided, when there appeared, For the amendment _7B Against it The amendment wee accordingly lost. The bill then went through committee and the boom resumed. . _ Some bills were then advanced a stage, and their lord ships adjourned at a quarter to one o'clock. HOUSE OF UOMMONS.—MONDAY, APRIL 25. The Swazi. Wok the chair at a quarter to 4 o'clock. NEW MEMBER. Viscount GODERICIi tc;;lTlceo;ilts and his seat for fludde.dield in the coons of Mr. Stansfleld, whose election had been declared void. lINARESBOROUGH ELECTION. Mr. WALPOLE brought up the report of the committee appointed to try and determine the petition against the return for the borough of Knaresborough, namely, that Mr Westhead had not been duly elected. [The document itself was printed in the Daily News of yeemrday]. PRIVATE BUSINESS. " that this dare stead part of the bill," he was desirous of having the opportunity of addressing their logishipe uta the amendment of which he had given "odes in the sl.ase of • proviso. That amendment was in Itself Nikita, so new ennable. and it appeared to him thiit the principle on which it woe founded was of such uuiv geII appllelthosi that hs' entertained the most sanguine expectation that it swould he adopted. He felt still more sanguine of such • result if he could believe that they could come to the cosclusion of this question setting ate.dis political and pasty cresidere tions, and going into it on impartial, if not judicial consider ations, because he was satisfied, if they looked at it in • judicial character, they would find there were principles about to be infringed by this bill which it was their duty in their high capacity to protect, and which would to a certain eaten' be protected by the amend. ment he proposed. It might be said that the amendment diu not fully come up to the claims of justice and equity, but he desired not to meet the bill with any factious opposition, but so to amend the bill that they might to some :tent reconcile tho imperative claims of • judicial principle with those liberal views and oilier' which I her Majesty's government bad in view, in offering to the colonial legislature a power larger than that which any co• losial legislature had ever yet possessed. The effect of the amendment would be to grant to the Canadian legisla- tune all that was proposed with regard to the clergy reserves not hitherto appropriated and allotted under the authority of grants of the crown, or acts of parliament, for the specific use of the clergy. Ile proposed to limit the power to be given to the Canadian legislature, so that it should be prospective only. A noble earl said, in a former debate, that the adoption of this amendment would as effectually destroy the effect of the bill as if they had rejected the bill on the second reading. Ile entirely demurred to that statement. If the amendment were agreed Sy, the Canadian legislature would have the absolute dis posal of the unappropriated lands of the clergy, containing no lees than 1,800.000 acres, valued at 430,0001. He asked them to take the same course the government had taken in the measure of 1840, extending that concession, however, much further and muck more liberally to the colony by offering absolute control over all future appropriations, but in regard to the endowments that had been sanctioned by grants of the crown and by the revisal of the legislature, by investments in the public funds, and by the appointment of trustees to provide for their dis tribution, be proceeded upon the principle that even if parliament had the power it had not the right to alienate them. (Hear, hear.) His argument was that if parliament alienated from the church these reserves they would strike at the very root of the whole system oa which the church was based. (Hear, hear.) If the (tel ls.' of the loyal population of Canada were to weigh with their lordshios, let them not fear that the sense and discrimination of that population would induce them to my that parliament bad dealt with them liberally and given them absolute control over all which it was in their power to give, but had refused to them from conscientious mo tives what they had refused to themselves, for it was not theirs to give, noises by a violatios of the rights of pro perty. (Chien.) The Duke of NEWCASTLE said he was too mindful of the patience extended to him by the house on Friday night to treepus at any greater length than was possible upon their lordships now. He would not follow the *ample of the noble earl, who had made a speech now which he ought to have made on Friday, sad which had been reserved for to-night. The noble earl was • great tactician, but it was for the house to say bow far tactics were appropriate to • bill of this kind, and how far it was appropriate to take the chance of catching • majority in this stage of • bill, on which there had been no discussion on the second reading, although they were told that its principle was vicious. They were told by • right rev. prelate that the bill was sacrilege, and by a noble and learned lord that it was a gram infraction of the rights of property, and yet the con servative party, as the noble earl Wiwi it, is contradistinc tion to that side of the house, were so conservative of the rights of the church, that for the chance of a party triumph, they would net divide on the second read. inc of • bill which they declared to be sacrilege and serous infraction of the rights of property. The noble earl was not only a great tactician, but he was air a great artist, for he had contrived to wrap up and conceal what were the views and principles contained in his own amendment. The noble earl bed studiously concealed, if the bill was what he declared it to be, that his amendment was as vicious in prin ciple as the hill itself. (Hear, hear.) What had the noble earl done ? He—the leader of the great eon eervative party—the leader of the landed aristocracy—had called ea the house to give a stability to realised property which he claimed to lead ; for he said he was reedy to give to the legislature of Canada the power of dealing with a million-end-a-half of sores of land ; he would he ready to sanction this, r gross an infraction of the rights of property ; but he would not allow that widish had - been sold, and the funds derived from it, to be teweltd. He (the Duke of Newcastle) meintained that it walla lave been more just, right, and becoming to this age and to the colony to have rejected the bill on dm Mead me& jag, than to go on with It with this Ale Why had the set of 1840 arreersaidbeasso it was an arrangemeat either unjust or bad In itself, hot because it was made by the British parliament, and not by the Canadian legislature, and he would ask, why repeat that experiment ? Yes woad eel, abseils hail tie property in question for srishisi ; yea watch wet have gained pear or conciliated the esisay, which die aside earl said it was his desire Is male happy and asteated. The sable seal bed made a farther distinction., eel said that roe had no right to Wadi the realised fed Nth& lawmpied pro perty, and se swains wee het* metal the bill heat haw a boos to the eeleay, that be wesM welded& what the hag Itself was. He could understand the saki earl eighty be would take the land and give you the ea r he seM net cry shall you enure, in their , the invested funds to the churches in Corr Zit I le lie t trusties, but that all the nets wombs ben the iwi sow devised for tensed years shall be sternly eggespristod. (" No," from Lord Leiniardo) He esti& glee no ether wwialag to It, and two eminent lawyers wham be lad asasalled had told him that that would be the Alit d the Inelltininst. The Earl of DERBY said, ahhowsh be tadettook to c ai vare the slam, he did not man; 10 amine for its but t hey wars Goyim! relates st 4411/11‘611 Iran act of _ The Dub. of NEWCASTLE kaew that it was dear that hie interpretation was correct, and that that would be the easel which he had stated. The obis lard had copied aeriadhe et klaratio front the act of 1840, end in the 4th dna al the asseadusat it was said "lands sold or to be NM." Bat he would tall tie eoble out that no awe Mb would be odd, sad that mu bed Meet odd than was allowed sod= the eat But he wend sot dispute about wards. He would odor deal with the claw itself, sod be would naiad lite sight L e i ;zia , aa who oa Friday night talked so atedi about sad the anie sad Issued lord winsome the seas =l4admen Owe as ammo= abut sights of pro ' tie be =elision =ass be subleined universal," due if Soy ebbed seadalsooy is this quid= disk nest Me amadmat. (Hear bisrs4 Teas noble kno nesidiered is Os dklera of dare the 874: =I:)" l inataVW S they would at the same thee be sips and et tau to opus* the bill eflowards a the dird reading. Mar, burl The Burl of WICKLOW agreed with the principle of the WU, bat, dose they were to kayo a reorvatias to that pellasipls it rested with their lordships to dead. to what east= th e roaryatioa amid go. (Hear. hoar.) He or ilined‘ O however. that bed b propsood bat, not bad M dse to understand AMM sow its eet was simply le provide that the property of t preseet ineudisale abed mania ualoasbed, he was reedy to give the wader lb rapport. Lord WHARIICLIFIM awn mist the SMOSII6IIIII4 sad " tbe bill in its doge. (Hear, beer.) WSW of MART would .des oar to protect the wish paper ls es the numb, sad he nut there e _ The - limbs, et ST. DAVID'S said the noble earl who nerd the arming admitted that it was huts rare sear penis, and it sour arise hue ezpsdlesey. sable sad, therefor, esiled rilMst le wigs s oreiSse The el gds. elpie, at beet He replied w esseskaliese views of the if his right rev. brother who irked wen this quo ties is a different aspect ; but le thought they lad over nest whet they egged the porkies, serelseseee el the mese" lad altogether hoe slab! el NO des *aft shish a had es the tiewel of Mrft free Iva esaseies this °Deasy. (Hear The Uhler of LONDON rid his right rev. brother and ethers bed treeted the eet ea if it were only a ratter of right. It was admitted that the almost immediate Ns rimer lithe ps g ef tide hill wadi be the seadarlea ties ef shed is Canada. He cratended that by gieg the • tare this power they were n. ups them a leered responsibility which now rested apse themeless. H. said that no such right was taboret be the dradiaa legislature. It wee said the other night that them way no church is Canada. He said there was • thumb, • legal church, net d • i ssed thumb, and ea else dye church. He was i? for WtZ el diesfe Mt for the pro le. He Arid re his vote *it slightest he Aar the mile earl's unsadeassi TM Hake ef ARGYLL thought sot °sly that the emend ✓ent was net soled lif t ire Mkt it was in Adrift of the principles of jesien • It wee amorally weiselesi that they rearmed lie perelpisef a hill by the aawwsd reed. ins. He edimitted list the sells earl perested against that for himself sad kis se the leered tit el this bill, but the house i reesgehed the mien of the bill, and this ausenessat would destroy t. We were soot esseediaL o te the Curds* the privileges of freedom; and privileges wen seeoutpared :I burdens—Ant them being the necessity permitting and ti ding re4ioas conflict. For the ieteresta of the melt he had no apprehensions, U the church were but relieved from the odious eel invidious position in which she wee sow ;dead. A *AY *eel had said In the course of the debate that raker than consent to this measure he would corer to rupt re of our Usk with the colosy. He (the Dale yll) a re spier the theory which such eiromedise implied. Ile ire r such • separate miles shad& be la direst soenection with this eenery an importer inliessee might be obtained them social sad Okra emoNees which were agitated is Ilse world ; and lie ieelielliss NM laws of England, as nefreles and repreeseled arra lie pospie of Canady were burg et Ws .wart a rest nighty Whims, throughout that-mot assNeeil es the greeter deli the araments of ear age—ohst seersoset with whisk the agrees of Wilbu r rZyree and Miriam were isreelelly esesserd. (Cheer) ssxl GREY thought that the mile earl opposite (Hail of WI by) had given up the whole question of " anapest" sad " equity " admitting that the presort legislature could not be held to be bound by the arangesents entered into by the legislature of 1840. (Her, Mar.) He called their lordships to pass the bill at tAi stets .in the Asps in . . width the bad read it h sowed time; or. %bey wade sigma it , reject it at the stage of tie third -reading, sad not Dow, by adopting an aistiodment which multi ha''. Ito odstantage whatever to reememend it. (Cheers.) Lord Sf. LEOIiAItDS hlMerved that the noble earl who Iliad . just sat dowel had not- addressed himself to the amendment, at all ; and the question before their lordships was not—were religious endowments expedient ? It was said that there was no difference in principle between the bill and the amendment, and if you gave up the lead why not give np the money which had been invested oho? Their lordships bad to consider, not whether they would give their sanction to an set of the Canadian leguslatare, but whether they would repeal the set of 1840 and undo oil which had been done by that set, and deprive not only the established churches, bat all other classes, of the provision which was made for them. . . , ' The Bishop of OXFORD said that If any argument was needed to convince their lordships of the inoonvenience and ineousisteney into which the noble earl had fallen by pro posing his amendment, it would be found in the speech of the noble and learned lord who had just sat down when it was compared with that which he delivered on Friday last. (Hear.) Whether he (the Bishop of Oxford) agreed with the speech of Friday or not, be could not fail to admire the masculine understanding, the vigour and perspicuity of the noble and learned lord ; and as far as he (the Bishop of Oxford) was himself concerned, the graceful courtesy which the noble and learned lord had exhibited in the address which he then delivered—granting his principle—be should as, that the speech of the noble and learned lord was un answerable ; but he denied his _principle, and so he had failed to emaciate him. (Hear, hear.) But the house must have seen that the same masculine tin dentanding, vigour, and perspiceity were involved in difficulty by the case the noble and learned lord had to argue, for he argued at once that what the house was going to do was sacrilegious, and yet that they were bound to do it. (Hem, hear.) The noble and learned lord had illus trated the principle he advocated by expressing an opinion that any one could make a compromise with • villain who seized his purse in order to retain half of its contents, but the illustration failed, inasmuch as it was proposed to take the money of • third party, and that is taking only half of it you were free from blame. (Hear, hear.) He (the Bishop of Oxford) was anxious to hear the amendment proposed by the noble earl, which was; at once to serve the principle he advocated, and yet avoid all the evils which he showed would follow what he called an act of confiscation. But, like other half measures, it served neither the principle of the noble earl nor of those on the ministerial side of the home. It sacrificed both, and was altogether inadmissible. The sentiment of the noble earl on Friday went to show that this question was settled, and guaranteed by the legisla ture in 1791 and in 1840 ; but did not the amendment of the noble earl overthrow that settlement, and, as it ap peared to him (the Bishop of Oxford), in a more dangerous manner than if power was given to the Canadian legislature. The noble earl said this property stood on precisely the same footing as the property of the chunk of England or the church of Scotland, and that this bill was setting an example of eonfiscatioa. He thought the noble earl was led away by the words appropriation and allotment. In the case of the church of England the lands were left /1011111tialle by individuals to particular parishes, and for penlight ge. ligious purposes ; but the lands in Canada were pasta by the crown for the maintenance of the protestant clergy ; est for particular parishes or particular purposes. The olden of the bill was much mistaken. He had bell told that evening that the bill gave pow to strip the rectories in Canada of this gable meats. It did no such th=at, of thine ries recto were similar to those in a lei the bit dealt only with a common fund w was telleelgaine• tared by the colonial legislature. There WY Iles= between the two cases. The amendhest of the and went in the pernicious direction whin' the bill avoided, he ' the noble earl said to the Canadian legislates% by hie ' amendment, we will secure a part of he Imlid._ but easfiscate the other part, and it wipe= In 1 lordships' bolt •do that whin it ins nil iambi be sae& lege if they did it, bat whi' asp egthertiege when it wee left to be dam by the Cassiine leglieste. As the mu* meat failed it carrying out the parpensf the noble earl, 11 also failed to starry out the purposes althea who supported 1 the original measure. The bill did sat sealiseat• a single acre of land, but only allowed the colonel legislature to dal I with it. The noble and learned lord (St. Latiaardo) did him ' (the Bishop of Oxford) the honour to say that be had laidfiewe that doctrine is a speech he had made on another oninke, and that he had failed to establish it—and that as, if any man could have established it he could, he having failed, the argument failed altogether. He was much obliged to the noble and learned lord for his courtesy, b ut In would still say that the argument could be established. He did not say that there was any legal right in the Comedian l► ginner, to deal with this question, for if tie wes, whet is the world were they discussing the make hr now ? (Hear, boar.) If the noble and laarned bni mart that —wooed, it at once. But • Side 1111 MI stand as • legal right, but yet stand es thete* a nen loin and equitabh right, which amp wilts Ire hear body, and by such a right the Ommlleis Wee empowered to deal with this qualm It been ae. knowledged to the Canadian ig=that haperial use does ought to be reserved fur de. mastic questions confined to he mil milli ; and they had gene • mop fartimeend glen to se spoilable government, and sea a government was a modm ,p, if, when they were Ogg to use it for • purpose which the British parliament said was injurious, they inter fered to prevent it. The right rev. prelate thin referred le • part of the speech of the Bishop of Exeter on Friday, In whisk he that the Bishop of Oxford had diffe, ed from the principle laid down by his father (Mr. Wilber form), and in very glowing and eloquent terms the disinterested public eaters of that gentleman, mgr =I his strong vessesties foe him and his pride is I his mule, sad to say thee in the nurse le was now taking he boa Ws father's rains , and denied that thew et= i the manse gutted was expressed was parallel to the peasant. net (the almilliaa of slavery) was • great imperial nudism whit' bed ban made a great feature by dm ample% and when he sentry came to • saw of the well and rehmsed the imjuslise, when the star of liberty rem on bar esissial guldens, is busier *sleety of this (1•110111. peepers the 1M _for es* a new state el things. He (*a lb I lop of Oxfor d) then proceeded le his indigestion time he Onsedisa per lienemt, tbe of a grewies nation, should be um pared with the *Matures of sub &mph colonies as the West ladle Ise min He feared hie light rev. friend want eke length of Dr. Johnson, whs, is sipsaldng of lb. AMIN& see Nimble. said that " they were but a nodes of and it they were allowed to emus hanging' It ;are eseme a ke ham." It mast balm boon with Coreetbine; that that his right rev. ketbor bed been indeed to Wm , Indian lefildnem with the Claimilles pea °° let Thee who sappers.* the bill mete aimed OM ' emus was hum now why_ there *soli be ea shield's of the settlement of IMO. It was clew that when a large share of the ohm rearm was given to the harsh el Scotland, it was before the the napies la thee &arch, and harden those who were in tended to pleb by the did net do so because he peeler amber of thee body mew belonged to the free shush The Wadi= pediment seeinted that they were the peeper poseur to alter that sattiommal. and they could ' met be ; bat the amendment of Ile melds end did mot tbet it cad did not save the beam et tIM Whisk *he rev. prelate the. peeseind le refer to a csesides ham Burke mode Vhe Bia L gi o elision . on Friday night. whisk hid ligel cnnowe , . of I imperial pa4ammuk med mine ern B right lbel if he right rev. prdoe late had read a little hither, be meal have hued that Burks also laid down la the steemesetlmmthe diebt leas p ism liberty of the Amadeu mina% owl the Om. duke eseerlaisad by them for its wejegnent s met WWI that if the whit et Burke could be same Owe them k would be the attempt made le fellenare with the liberties of tie at hlellfeeil seisnide, sad the halal te hem of the pewee te deal with the andenshale of their own dewy. lie this meat on to urge, Oil if his ball were posed, the geodes *bald remain lemelled, that it wevid raise strew aid warmer Min is Commis en the ingot. sod that lei sohisament add met Inieg be volumed. Ur/ maul sot gals • dish yew by dwering ON Oh hill new, but having thrown It out they wadi lies hat dilse e meald have alismaled ail th e gene._ Ai of Canada hem Oh semery. (teen= WA oinosof f sly ouggoomdl AM be wee ihe obandming dims sumo abege. bat. shim& AU woe • be add say, inaste ss ial and simusely, that nth= sae dr church of at hone INSlltaised la its peer east position by the of a foreign power he would mash sooner that it liege* from door to het Ifer the ef its ululate's. (Ulises) Now, the mania be presbdy the feeling that would enimete the pm* et Claude If sheer lordship Moped the amendment, bemuse It would be tantamount to saying , "We dislnest_ yen ; you shall nee legislate in this matter, but we will iseta he you," and I therefor, he besought their legible% be the sake of se airing the spiritual welfare of this peel missy, mu is be led away by the amesideseat hem the simple question of whether Canada, with a rupendble pewee and a local legislature, was set MAW able and better entitled to 'deal with thee; menu than she Drilide puliement. (Cheers.) The Bishop of EXETER repeated the arguments which he had mad on • former occasion against the blii, and mu tended that it was the duty of the iambi Isgisintnre to watch over and control the preesedisp ef esienid emus blies in spiritual as well se impend Aim The Earl of DERBY replied ; but after the lengthened debate their lordships had beard, and et that late hour, it would not be neesseary he him to detain the house for more than • few minutes. It was imposaible for him, or his noble and learned friend who sat near him (Lord St. Leonard') to accept the definition in the lassim which the right reverend prelate (the Bishop of 0 had ap plied to the aineschment. (Hear, hear.) H• net ad mit that in proposing this amendment himself, asd those who followed hut were either seeking to wrest from Canada hat rights and privileges, or to shuns them away by chit*- :g . (Hear, hear,) Upon redaction, be was sure the t reverend prelate would regret that he had used such besguage, and feel that some apolo gy was hedue to those to whomhad • it. For his own part be discl a i me d the 0 waive imputa tion the right rev. prelate had nude and however the right rev. prelate might hays been lead away by the heat of thought, or the desire to stake a point ia hb speech, he was comOdest that upon reflection the right rev. prelate would admit that such expressions were quite uncalled for. (Hoar, hear.) The Bishop of OXFORD declared that be had not the remotest intention of using the terms referred to offensively, and he was heartily sorry that they had bees taken in so serious a mese. (Hear, hear.) Their lordships would remember that he smiled when he used the expressions, end he scald assure their lordships that nothing wee further CHELTENHAM Xiii OXFORD RAILWAY, &e. Mr. OLIVEIRA moved that the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee on the Cheltenham and Ox. ford Railway, and the London, Oxford, and Cheltenham Railway and Branches Bill*, in the session 1847, be referred to the committee on the Cheltenham and Oxford Union Railway, and London and Mid Western Railway Bilk.— Agreed to. BARNSLEY WATERWORKS. Mr. BROTHERTON moved that the order that he re port on the Barnsley Waterworks Bill do lie on the table be discharged. That leave be given to brie; to a new bill, intituled, Sanely W (No. 2) Bill"—Agrred to. EAST . ANOLIAN RAILWAYS. Mr. BitofiliftfoNnlWeci that on the But Anglian Railways (No. 2) Bill being presented and read the first time, it be referred to the examiners of petitions for private bills, with leave to sit and proceed to-morrow.—Agreed to. BRISTOL GAS, AND BRISTOL AND CLIFTON GAS COMPANIES AMALGAMATION BILL. This bill was read a third time, sad pawed. OLDHAM CORPORATION AND OLDHAM OAS AND WATERWORKS BILL, AND ROSSENDALE WATERWORKS BILL. These bills Inn oonndered, and ordered to be reed a third time. BERMONDSEY EEOULATION BILL, AND EAST AND WEST INDIA DOCKS AND BIRMINGHAM JUNCTION RAILWAY (No. 2) BILL. These bills wars raid • woad tuns. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PJ OPZNINO OP Till CRYSTAL PALACI OS SUNDAYS.— By Mr. SMYTH, from York; Mr. KINNAIRD, by the ministers and elders, members of the free rynod of Perth ; Mr. A. PELLATT, from the congregation of Trinity Chapel, Brixton, in county of Surrey; against.—Mr. H. BERKELEY, from the tinplate workers of Bristol; Mr. T. BUNCOMBE, from artisans of Leith, N. B. • inhabi tants of Northellorton, and Reading ; bookbin ders, Lon dos ; working classes, metropolis,- in favour of. ADVIIIIIII2IIINT Dorr.—By Mr. R. MOORE, from the proprietor of the Misr Gaselte newspaper; Mr. WIL LIAMS, from three papers; Mr. HADFIEI.D, from • place not heard ; for repeal of. Ton BoDonx.—By Sir DE L. EVANS, from the vestry of St. Jamea's,Westininster, in favour of the Budget without material alteration.—Mr. H. BERKELEY, from the letter press printers of Bristol, complaining of regulations intro duced by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and particu larly of interferon., with supplements of newripapere.— Mr. SMYTH, from the medical men of York ; Mr. J. BELL, from the inhabitants of Guildford; against the in come tax. __ — lijorrna Menu/1m Tione.—By Mr. CRAUFURD, from Town Council of Burgh of Ayr ; Sir J. ANDER SON, from the magatrates and town council of Stirling, in favour of. Sir J. MATHESON, from the town council of Dingwall, and from the presbytery of Dingwall, against the abolition of. Nernanae.—By Sir J. MATHESON, from Rosanna pariah, for the regulation of. Arronnine CIATIPICAT3 DUT . T.—By Mr. ROSS MOORE, from the attorneys practising at quarter sessions, la the meaty of Armagh ; Mr. STIRLING, from the eseate awl peseuraton of Cooper Angus; praying for the re ggksp Hos Durum— By Mr. E. BALL, from Streatham, Hertford, Wilburton, in Cambridgeebire ; Mr. NIWDEGATE, signed by 1,889 inhabitants of North Warwickshire, praying, u podium, traders, and con susurs, for the total repeal of. RAT'S —By Mr. J. BELL, from the ungregation of primitive methodists of Aldbermigh, against tithes, tithe rent charge, and church rates. OCCUPATION OP ROMP PT rate FAINCH.—By Mr. BERKELEY, from disunion of Lewin Mead, City of Bristol, deploring the condition of Central Italy, and prey ing for an address to her Mejosty to interfere with France and Austria for the removal of troops from the papal do minions ; Mr. T. DUNCOIII3II (24) against the French emu ' of Rome; inhabitants of Wakefield (2), Gates head ; inhabitants of Bridgewater , Leeds, Woreester, Lon don and vicinity, Dalkeith, Yorkshire, Glasgow , Morpeth, Carlisle, and fifteen other plum. Anmsiturre.—Mr. THORNELY, from Willman], for reduction of armaments. _ _ _ Posaz♦o-aovea~ -B7 Mr. GLYN, hoes Kesdal io r es numeronsly signed, for the satire closing of public en Sundays. Innut.—By Mr. BRIGHT from the inhabitants of Manehoster, sesuabled is midis meeting, the Mayer in the ask e paging that the Osuet of Dinettes of the Zest India Olonpesy may be ilsoesseetsi free the goverounent of India, gad that the lefts government he India may in fats» sonsist of a Latter sad contneil appointed by the crows, sad directly negesellek to parliament, Donovan EDUCATIOU Ilse .—B MALL, from a puha meeting at Over DOM., Immo Laws.—By Mr. M'M AHON, hose the cat !Menses sad other inhabitant@ of Roberson, Kilkenny, sad of New Rote, in the county of Wexford, preying the hoses to repeal certain enactments, end to extend to Ireland the fishery laws of England. MAYO ELECTION COMMITTEE. At the suggestion of Sir W. Vanua, Lord H. VANE moved that the evident* taken before this mounittee should be printed.—Agreed to. ELECTION PETITIONS. The SPEAKER announced that the reeognisances in the ass of Mashburn bed been reported unexceptionable soil thee the 'Whin 'elm the return for Finsbury had bees withieelta. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS. Mr. TUFREEI. esiedtlreiecreiWiloi the Home De partment whether it was the intention of the government to introduce, daring the present serial, aay bill to extend the provisions of the acts 6 & 7 Win. Iv., cap. WI, 7 Wm. IV., and 1 Vic., c. 78, to municipal corporations not i included in the schedule to the Municipal Corporations Act, 6 *6 Wm.lV.,c. 76? Mr. FITZROY was afraid that the state of public busi ness would not allow the government to bring in such a bill this session. If, however, the right hon. gentleman would introduce a measure on the subject it should receive the best consideration of the government. Mr. TUFNELL accordingly gave notice that on Thurs day next he would move for leave to bring In a bill on the subject. THE POST-OFFICE. In answer to Sir Ds L. EVANS, Kr. WILSON stated that in consequence of the accelera tion of the mails for the north, it would be impossible to accede to the prayer of a memorial which had recently been presented by the sorter► for a reduction of their hours of labour; nor could the receiving houses be closed at an earlier hour at night without inconvenience to the public. BERWICK-UPON-TWEED ELECTION COM- Mr. K. SEYMEEt Tioagritup the report of the com mittee, namely, that both Mr. Stapleton and Mr. Forster had not been duly elected. (This document has also ap peared in the Daily Naos.) DURHAM ELECTION. Mr. BENTlNel;;;;notTo;tllWOWitteeday, the 3rd of May be should move for a select committee to isguire into the circumstances under which the petition against the return of Mr. W. Atherton and Mr. T. C. Grainger, for the city of Durham had been withdrawn • and also that the petition of certain electors present ed on the 20th inst. be referred to such committee. THE " GUNPOWDER PLOT " AT ROTHERHITHE. 147. T . :Liu - lE6lli - 0; Teursdq next he shonW move for copies of any correspondence that might exist in the custody of the Board of Ordnance, rela tive to Mr. Sale's improvements in war rockets. He also bogged to ask the no►le viscount, who, the other night, in enuroeratiag the articles which had been found on Mr. Hale's premises, had said that there was a quantity of rocket coulposition and Zooo lbe. of gunpowder, whether he had not been in error is making thatstatement Viscount PALMERSTON, in reply, admitted that he had certainly been in error; and had wide the stairm..nt upon incorrect information. It appeared from the proceed• ins at Bow-street, that 260 lbs. of rocket composition had been found. Whether that wasgunpowder or not remained to be determined; and he could not pretend to anticipate the decision of the tribunal which would hare to adjudicate upon theme. SUPERINTENDENT CONSTABLES. Mr. G. CAVENDISH moved for returns showing the several oounties, or divisions of counties, in which su perintendent constables have been appointed under the acts 5 and 6 Vic., e. 109, and 13 and 14 Vie., c. 20, stating whether as superintendents of lockups solely, or as superintendents of parish constables, or as acting in both capacities, with the pay and allowances of each superintendent conics:de, and the area and popula tion of the petty sessional division to which be is ap pointed, together with the total expense incurred in each eouuty.—Agreed to. TIIE DOG TAX. In answer to Mr. E. BALL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it was not intended to alter the existing exemption in favour of shepherd dogs. The rule was to take Hest a vote as to all dogs, and then to exempt certain breeds by clauses in the bill. The exemptions were not stated at all in the rase lotions. THE INCOME TAX. Mr. BRIGHT wished to put a coeliacita to the right hon. gentleman with reference to the incidence of the inc tax. The point was one in which many thousands of per sons in Lancashire and Yorkshire, and particularly in Lan cashire, were interested. The right hon. gentleman was, no doubt, aware, that in manufacturing towns there were many families whose whole income exceeded 100/. a year, such income being made up of the waste', not only of the father or the head of the family, but also of bis wife or children, or both. Now, he wished to know whether it was proposed that the wages of the husband alone should be as sessed, or whether those of his family should be included? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was sorry the hon. gentleman had not given him notice of this ques tion, because it would be necessary, before answering it, to look at the old income tax acts. The case had not arisen under the recent acts, but it must have done so under the old ones. (Hear, hear.) TUE CASE OF A REGISTRAR OF BIRTHS. Mr. 0. MORGAN desired an explanation why the Regis trar-General had refused to dismiss or prosecute a registrar against whom certain grave irregularities bad been alleged. Viscount PALMEItSTON replied that this person had been appointed some ten or twelve years ago by the Mon mouth Board of Guardians, and had been found by the Registar-General to be an exceedingly ignorant and ineom• petent man. Not wishing however to disturb the appoint ment of the guardians he had sent other officers to inspect his books, and to give him instructions for the future. The man bad profited by those instructions, and his books of late had been found perfectly correct; but the guardians having in the meantime become acquainted with the irre gularities of which he bad been guilty ten years before, had desired the Registrar-General to dismiss 1r prosecute him. The Registrar-General thought that either proceeding would be a very harsh one under the circumstances, and he did not think that it was a case in which they would be right in throwing the expense of a pryiecution upon the public. He (Lord Palmerton) was certainly of opinion that the Registrar• General had judged quite rightly; but if the Board of Guardians thought proper they could insti tute proceedings against the man themselves. EXTRAMURAL In answer to Mr. 0. MoRGAN, Viscount PALMERSTON thought it would be very de sirable to introduce into provincial towns a measure on the subject of extramural interments on the same principles as those which had been embodied in the metropolitan act. The subject, no doubt, was one that required very much consideration, but he hoped that in the course of the pre. sent session the government would be able to bring in a bill. (Hear.) THE_ WAGES OF . LETTER SORTERS. Mr. WARNER asked the Secretary of the Treasury, whether the government would be willing to take into con sideration the case of sorters and ether persons employed by the Poet Office, not being letter carriers, with a view to in. creasing their pay, in eases where it might appear inade quate to the services they had to perform ? Mr. WILSON said there was no intention to make a ge neral increase of wages; bat in cases which seemed to re quire additional remuneration it would be given. THE DUTY ON TALLOW. Mr. MITCHELL be to uk the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, as e had anaounced his intention to repeal the soap duties, he would admit the raw material (tallow) duty free ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was afraid he really could not afford to part with the tallow duty. The duty which was considered ae countervailing to the excise on soap would be remitted ; but he should retain a low duty corresponding to that upon tallow. THE METROPOLITAN BUILDING ACTS. Lord D. STUART asked the First Commissioner of Works whether it was his intention to introduce, during the present session of parliament, any bill to erased the Metro politan ',Miffing Acta. Sir W. MOLESWORTH said the difficulty of the subject wit proved by the fact that during the last five years as many bills had been introduced, not one of which had met with the sanction of parliament. The government had no intention of bringink forward any measure this session ; but they would make inquiries with a view to future legislation. THE NELSON MONUMENT. Sir DB LACY EVANB game unties of his intention to ask a question of the garentment with respect to the Nelson monument. Niue years ago the then First Commissioner of Woods and Forests promised that it should be speedily completed. SOUTH-SEA AND OTHER ANNUITIES COMMU TATION BILL In answer to a question of Sir F. RALLY , which was very indistinctly heard, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he should lay the clause he inteuded t. bring up, upon the table to-night ; and be should mom that it be accepted on the third reading of** bill. At all events it should be printed and placed in the hands - cif -- hun. members a suf ficient time before the bill reached that stage. With respect to the boa. and learned gentleman's own clause, as it related to a matter which had already been fully di scussed, he Masted that be (Sir F. Kelly) would be prepared to go en with it at a somewhat late period, if necessary. Sir F. KELLY mounted. His clause would not occupy any long time. Lord J. RUSSELL stated, in mower to Mr. Dimunt, that he would state to-morrow when the government NW sure on India would be submitted to the house. IL KOSSUTH. On the question that the Speaker should leave the chair, Lord D. STUART said he wished to take the opportunity of saying • few words connected with a eutdect on which a question had just been asked. It had been elicited from Lord Palmereton that, in his statement a few days ago ! in regard to the seizure of certain ammunition or preparations fbr warlike purposes, he had fallen into a very serious error, and had made a statement which he now very frankly and very proiterly recalled. That of had been connected by the public press with the character of an illustrious exile, who had taken refuge from oppression in this free country ; hoar)—cad It had been imputed to If. Kos suth that the stores on the premises of Mr. Hale were intended for his use, and were in fact his property'. It was indeed suggested that they bad been found in • house in his occupancy, which was now generally known and perfectly acknowledged to have be wholly untrue. (Hear, hear.) As the character of this distinguished gentleman lad been so mailed, and in a manner to acquire general publicity, many people supposed that there was some foundation for the charge ; and it had been said,— "If this be so, if there be no ground for casting these im putations upon M. Kossuth, why does he not take some means of explicitly denying them 1" M. Kossuth, being informed of the charge, and of what had taken place in that hones, bed, on the day on which those charges were made, dime him (Lord D. Stuart) the hollow to address to him • letter, which he received late that night, and which, with the permission of the house, he would read : "Alpha-road, St. John's-wood, April 16, 1853.—My Lord, —ln answer to your kind note, I have the honour to say, that all the accusations in the Times of to-day, about a house in my occupation having been searched, and a store of war materials belonging to me been discovered and seined, are entirely unfounded. Not only in no house in my occupation, bat also nowhere else in Entland could have been any s tore of war material, belonging to me discovered and seized, hem the simple reason, that I have no store of war material whatever in England. But while I give this plain and flat denial to the alleged charge, I desire expli citly to be understood that I do not disavow my hostility to the oppressors of my country, but rather avow openly my determination to free my country from them. To this my aim I shall and will devote all my life and'all my activity, and to this activity I will recognise any other limit but honour, morality, and the laws of that country where I happen to ;aide. And as it is not contrary to honour and morality to have stores of war materials to be used when required in the service of my country, I declare that such I have ; but I have them in such countries where it is lawful for me to have them, even with those intentions which I openly avow. But in England I have them not, because I have been told that some doubts may be entertained about the legality of such an act. With this explanation, I re peat, no store of any war material of mine could have been seized, because I do not possess, either directly or indi rectly, anything of the kind in this country.-1 remain, with high regards and particular consideration, m . y lord, yours respectfully reigned), L. KOSSUTH. Lord Dudley Count Stuart, M. P.' THE INCOME TAX. The house thee went into committee of ways and means ; and Mr. BOUTRRIE, the chairman, read the following reso lutions: That it is the opinion of this committee, that towards raising the supply granted to her Majesty, there shall be raised annually, during the terms hereinafter limited, t►e several rates and duties following—that is to say:— For and ip respect of the property in any lands, tenements, or hereditament', in the United Kingdom, and for and in respect of every annuity, pension, or stipend, payable by her Majesty or out of the public revenue of the United Kingdom; and for and in respect of all interest of money, ' annuities, dividends, and shares of annuities payable to any person or persons, bodies politic or corporate, companies or societies, whether corporate or not corporate; and for and in respect of the annual profits or gains arising or accruing to any person or persons whatever, re•id..rit in the United Kingdom, from any kixd of property whatever, whether situate in the United Kingdom or elsewhere, or from suy annuities, allowance. or stipends, or trom any profeasion s trade, or vocxtim, w hether the same sit dl be respectively exercised in de United Kingdom or elsewlic re ; aid fur and in respect of the annual profits and gains arising ur accru ing to any person or persons not resident within this United Kingdom from any property whatever in the United Kingdom, or Pons any trade, profession, or vocation, exer cised in the United Kingdom ; for every 20s. of the annual value or amount thereof— _ £ i. d. For two years from April 6, 1853.... 0 0 7 And for two yerrii from April 5, 1855 0 0 6 And fur three - years from 4615, 15,17 0 0 5 And that on April 4, 1860, exeept as to the callesition of monies then due, the said rates and duties shall cease and determine ; and fur and in respect of the occup.ition of such lands, tenements, or hereditaments (other than a dweiling house occupied by a tenant distinct from a farm of lands), for every 201. of the enema value thereof, one moi e ty o f each of the said sums of 7d., 6d., and od., for the above named times respectively-." Sir E. B. LYITON moved as an amendment—" That the continuance of the income tax fur seven years, and ite extension to parties heretofore exempt from its operation, without any mitigation of the inequalities of assessment, is alike unjust and impolitic." (Cheers from the opposition.) The Chancellor of the Exchequer hail informed them that he regarded the income tax as the keystone of his financial fabric, and he requested them not to fix their attention too much on the key-stone, but to admire the varied super structure which it wes intended to bear; but it was fleece sary, in the filet instance to examine the keretono itself, to see if it were susceptible of any repairs or alterations, and they might then look with mere ease and satisfaction at the superstructure proposed. Granting that there was much in the budget worthy of the right bon. gentleman's high reputa tion end of the approval of the house; slso that an income tax might be required for a certain period to enable him to de. velup his financial scheme, it was perfectly clear it was not necessary that the VAX should remain in its present state ; and they might possess all the good things premised in the budget without prolonging the inequality and injustice so much complained of. (Hear, hear.) lilts brought him at once to the cause of contention between the right hon. gen tleman and the supporters of Lord Derby's government, and also some gentlemen on his own side of the house. The late government, when it proposed to renew and extend the income tax, made it an indispensable condition to remove its main element of unpopularity, and to establish a broad and intelligible distinction between incomes derived from pre serious source; and from assured property. The right hon. gentleman refused to mare that distinction ; he proposed to extend and continue the tax, leaving the popular objection entirely untouched. It was precisely because he agreed with the right hon. gentleman in his two funds- mental principles, that he was compelled to dis sent from the conclusion at which he had ar rived. lie agreed with the right hon. gen tleman that this mighty resource should he at all times available, in cues of need and emergency; also that it ought net to form a main and habitual source of taxation. Precisely for those reasons, he contended that to make it available hereafter, if required, they should be gin by removing th e most o bnoxious parts of it (Hear.) If they thought it inconvenient and unwise to alter the ma (limey of the tax, there was the more reason to console those who were ground down by it by doing all they could to peeve that the tax would not be kept on a single hour longer than could be helped. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. gentleman did exactly the reverse of this; fur be pro posed to retain all that would render it most difficult to re micelle the public to the renewal of this tax if it were hereafter required, and at the same time he postponed its promised suspension to the furthest possible period. Seven years might be a short period in the history of a people, but it occupied a very large space in a single generation. (Hear, hear.) And at the end of the seventh year what possible guarantee could they have from the right hall. gentleman that the tax would be abolished? (Hear, bear.) The right honourable gentleman said he did not wonder at the public incredulity as to the tax being repealed, but said ho would place before them his resources, and leave them to judge for themselves. Ile had then very lumi nously summed up all those resources, and had shown, to his own satisfaction, that in 1860, there might be a balance which might make up for the loss of a tax producing nearly six millions. But the right hon. gentleman for g ot th a t, all this while, the lions. of Commons would be forestalling this anticipated balance. When he found that his own friends would not wait four days, but would embarrass the budget by voting the repeal of the advertisement duty— (hear, hear)—how could he suppose that his opponents or that independent members would wait seven years, before they interfered with that balance which was to pay off the income tax in 1860 ? (Cheers.) Every class had some par ticular interest against some particular tax, which was stronger than its aeneral interest against the income tax. And in proportion as the time advanced, as the produce of the succession duties might be most flourishing, and ar the terminable and other annuities fell in, members would be still more urgent and more eager to press forward their motions for the repeal of the wine duties, of the paper duty, or the malt tax, or whatever else they required ; and they would practically do all in their power to prevent the re mission of the income tax. (Hear, hear.) So he feared that when the time came for getting rid of this giant, he would be more vigorous than ever and there would not be left a single pebble in the brook th at would fit into the sling by which he was to be destroyed. (Hear.) The right hon. gentleman was compelled to base all his calculations on one bold effort ; he essamed that his remissions of indirect taxation would replace themselves in 1860—that, &wording to analogous experiments, the amount of those taxes would then be nearly the same as it was now. He promised a re mission of taxes to the extent of 5,384,0001., and said that, according to the commercial law of reproduction, these re missions would in 1860 have replaced themselves, and that there would then be an available surplus to that amount. But everything depended upon that. Upon articles of large censumpion the amount of duty was ultimately replaced • but that applied to duties which were reduced , not abolished altogether. Yet he proposed to abo lish duties to a large extent the soap duty. yielding 1,126,0001., and certain articles of Customs, amounting to 63,0001.; altogether, 1,179,0001. These could not be subject to the law of reproduction, for they would no longer exist. (Hear, hear.) Among the reduced duties were other articles to which that law would not apply—articles of luxury, such as servants, horses, and car riages. The right hon. gentleman could not be sure of re placing in seven years the 340,0001. which he took off those articles. In spirits he calculated on an increase of 430,0001. from au opposite course, by increasing the duty; but, judg ing from all experience, there was reason to fear that this increase would only be to the interest of the illicit dealer, and world benefit the smuggler rather than the exchequer. These taxes amounted to nearly two millions, of which one portion was tot subject to the opmmercial law of reprodue- ties, and of which the larger portion was abolished alto gether. These formed one•third of the visionary surplus by which in 1860 we were to get rid of the income tax. (Hear, hear.) It might be said that the redactions on what might be called individual ' taxes, though not increasing the revenue directly would stimul a te the general prosperity. And how would that show itself ? By increasing the profits that would swell the amount of the income tax ; and thus the difficulty of removing that tax would be increased, because it would make every future Chancellor of the Exchequer the more afraid or unwilling to part with it the prosperity of the country would render that tax of each an amount that it would be altogether unmanage able with a view to its repeal; while adversity would com pel its continuance from the deficiency thus created in the general revenue. (Cheers.) lie objected, therefore, to its continuance without any guarantee for its being abolished at the end of seven years. That the right hon. gentleman had his own doubts on the subject was evident, from a letter of his in the papers of that morning, which, with very censidente kindness, be had written in reply to a clerk at Birmingham. He info' rmed the clerk that the tax col lector would call upon him in January next for 11. 10s., and observed, very pleasantly, that that operation would be repeated in July—Slaughter)—" and this for seven years ; when, unless parliament, in coasideration of other public benefits or necessities not yet foreseen, should prolong the tax, it will drop altogether." (Cheers.) With such qualified assurances as these, he objected to bind the country to a continuance of this tax for seven yule. He objected still more on the ground of the continuance of those features of the tax which made the great body of the public regard it as unjust and iniquitous • also on the ground of the immorality which was induce d for the sake of obtaining relief from the tax. The right hon. gentleman. said that the circumstance of parties under Schedule D making their own sterns constituted one reason why the tax should not be permanent. Why should this be, bat because the parties taxed conceived there was something in the law so unfair as to reconcile their consciences to all attempts to counteract what they considered so unjust (Hear, bear.) This was a principle which operated against all laws that were believed to be unjust. Upon that prin ciple, while the punishment of death was retained on our statute book for minor crimes, juries belied their own convictions, and acquitted the parties accused. It was this which induced muggier, to believe that they were guilty of no moral offence, and which had enlisted the popular feel ing on their side. It was the same with the peasantry of Ireland in their struggle ;against what they deemed an unjust oppression. To renew the income tax in its present form, without making any attempt to equalise it, would be the corruption of a whole generation. (Hear, hear.) All the objections to this tax were increased by the proposed extension of it. (Hear.) The late government indeed pro posed to extend the tax down to 1001. a year by placing it on that equitable footing which was required by the great body of the people. They proposed to extend the tax ; but the right hon. gentleman proposed to extend its injustice. He proposed to inflict on those in humble circumstances the same law, unmitigated, which had already corrupted the morals of those above them; thus driving deeper into the heart of the population this demoralising effect. Then it was proposed to extend the tax to Ireland. Whether that was expedient or not he would not argue ; but be could sot conceive a greater affront to the common sense of that coun try than to offer the remission of a partial debt as the com pensation for a general tax. The discharge of these consolidated annuities rested upon certain parishes and unions, while the ',burden inflicted by the income tax would be general throughout the country. (Hear.) The one could be no compensation for the other. In fact. instead of rendering the income tax more fair, the proposed concession would but increase its inequality. (Hear, hear.) He did not think it necessary to follow the right eon. gen tleman through all his ingenious argumeuts, in which, by specious instances and examples, he sought to vindicate his perseverance in the present form of the income tax. Grant ing that he had made out his case to the sstisfaction of all highly educated logicians,' still it was to be feared that the stubborn prejudices of less scholastic complainants would I