The Express. — London, England, 1851-03-28 00:00:00

wee-- ipb o „ uee o ther measures, air, in contemplation, and fur the purpose of etlecteug which there have been two commiesione appointed--one to inquire into the proceedings in the coconut law courts, another to inquire into all the pro (erelong, in the Court of Chancery. Without mention any particular measures under their consideration, I may state that the result of these commissions will he, to prevent those continual trariefers front one court to s pat t er, sail thee, tedious proceedings which have hitherto estbstvaswel the courts of justice. (near, heat) They are &toting their attention, l believe, to get rid, as far as possible, of those teehnitalitiet which do nut belong to the teal substance and merits of the causes. (Hear, hear.) I believe that if we proceed in this coleus, very great good may he effecter'; and I am sure that no subject which comes behove you is more deservino of your attention. A e eing pardon of the m t fur the time I have con tinued w occupy their attention—(on, no)—I beg 01 move for leave to bring in a bill to provide for the better admi nistration of justice in the Court of Chancery. (Loud cheer,' Mr. J. STUART at that late hour merely row to say that the mottle lord in that part of Ins sieve h which re lated to the uttice of Lord Crtuneellor and the administre boa "(justice in the Court of Chancery, and the various meanires which heretofore had !wen proposed with the view of improving the administration of justice in that court, had expresool himself with oentiments ...just, with a view NO clear and so accurate of the duties of that great once, that although he (Mr. Stuart) highly disapprover( of the latter part or the speech, and, so far us h. , timid judge at the menieut, of the measure proposed, he wield nut with hold leis admiration of the opinions enunciated by the noble lore on the eeneral Pubject. (hear, hear.) Ile (Mr. Stuart) mgr. t;.,1 deeply that so humble an individual as biseted -ogee who hail ein other claim to the notice of the !mask than that of tviug the senior member of the Chau eecy bar present -should be the first person to rise to make an r ubeersation im the TOMe lord's speech. lie regretted that Ito statemno oo on that (the opposition) bench, and with wheni he usuiely acted, hail stated hie views on this flues tiun, which was important to laymen ten thousand times more loose it was to the legal piefecion. (11. ar, hear.) 'jaw vi, as of the members or the nor were, in his opinion. of eonsiderable importance ; but the impartance of their duties depend. d orator, ly e and Is.) mid all power of estimate, on the authority and qualstications of the judge before whom they apse-and un behalf or others to solicit justice. Thu motile lord could nut have taken the step of proposing such a bill without, of course, con-ulting the law Witter. of the crown. It was in the hope of elieitiue the vies.. of these "carnal gentleisien that he (Mr. Stuart) s titan tl to threw out one or two considerutions, treguriliist the illeasUre. The propOial was to give to the Lord High Chounllor sitting so the Court of Chancery the steestauer of two judges, tot two judges whom be might sunset to iosist him on occasions of importance, hut, se he (Mr. Stuart) understood, the Lord Chancellor was to Is Ire rmunently and constantly associated with him the Master of the Itiels and u cocoons. Loa judge, with one or the othi r of whom he must be associated, and both of,wlwie, in the atewogy of the lord Chancellor, may die clime the duties of that high Mike. This won a very Duvet swoon:a, for rat protein, is. the Court of Chancery wen couslitutrol, the Lord Chancellor was in the habit, when caves requiring it occurred, to call others to Lis smidanie. The Lord l'hamellor had at present the power of/ogling to his oassistanCe the Meekr of the Rolls, nod of remeceing the neeperatiou of a nommen law judge, when matters art intricacy or important... required it. 'fhe princi ple of tie noble lord was that the Lord Chanellue Refer could have business be was competent or should be. allowed to transact without assistance. Consider the s-hfrt of this. The noble lord had said, and most truly. Rod the judicial strength of the Court of Chancery was haul, quilt,. tor the performance of the business of the court; that was, they bad the Master of the hulls 'Offing in his own coart, two %ire-chancellor+ sitting in their mint, and the Innl Chaiteellor in the supreme court, nod all them ! were not *efficient to get thrinigh the business. The tint' effect of this Measure would he to shut the court of the Ma-ter of the Rolls. (hear, hear.) 'Phis was a serious rolMethin. The: learned judge who fwd just reline' from the ollieu of the Nbester of the leul been in the habit of sitting as a privy councillor, and abstracting that time from the Rolls Court which ought to hare been • oitirely denoted to it.. What had leen the con now was ? Why, there bad been nut only a great arrest of None s-, loot-alters had Inmate so dissatibried that they did not resort to the 'tolls Court, and teen with the diminished business , the arrears had been very large. 111. (Mr. Stuart) complained that the Master of the ItuUs, with all the cum'. merits of the office, should devote hie time to other inject.. It had been the practice to take the Master of the Bolls as a commissioner, and the Vice-Chancellor art England, if he hall health to do it, to bit with anothi r learned juil,;e in the Court of Chancery, to admi nister the duties of the Lord Chancellor, and by undo tuk ing to telminister these judicial duties the suitors had term placed in a situation disgraeefill to the government. The doors of two of the interior courts had been shut to the suitors. It might he said that there existed peculiar rea son, for meth a tome., but he should like to hear any rea sons whielt would he of a satisfactory character. The noble lord had stated a sirs whimsical mown for seising assistanee to the Lord Chancellor. Nobility estimated mitre than hr (Mr. Stuart) did the judicial ability 0,1 Lord Cottenharn. Ile stated his opinion of his merits without any ro ferettre to political estredtlerotiow. Inn) Cootteultam, in the rigour of his life, in the coMytuent of toll health, had limn Iletti to perharnserl all the duties of lord Chimes llor without any complaint ode zees, of labour, and had never inv. ik I-11 aloe' such as.. .Lowe us was promised by the noble lord (Inod J. The mottle lord kW' lord Cottenhem used to sit up till two sir three o'clock he them g, awl his tut :mina was, that after sinner up to that tint lit to attend eabiont councils Now, Ise neser knew a era who eelsibited lest fatigue than Intel Cotteuhani oven at the rising of his court. It was propowil that the lend Chancellor should have the 3laster of the lions sod a common law judge to assist him. Ile should hale thought that if the n• was tine thing which would make the lord l'ltaneellor more anxious than another, it would he the having to do liter his judgment net as now, before the Cur who, heavier they might think higu w g, eould not ray u but iu tlw foie of two sosseors, who could give their reasons Cur ilitferiug from him. Ile did soot know in what way the noble lord toil." had that the gisint u ilecisiem in • raw could be a die iiled labour. To his mind the great excellence of the judg ments of the l'ourt of Chancery was lasing them pro must. of by a single judge. They had hail experieuee of the other nurse. Whore Lord l'ottenliatn was made chancels hot he s it w it h 3Ir.J wain. lkswisquet and the V ive-Char.cellor of ho 'Lend urthw Mash roof the Holt., and delivered his best judgiut, its when he set alone. lb: thought it a mere teemed. mire to saddle the Lord Chancellor with two awes of that description. But the 'wide lord went a genet deal turther. Concurring in the et 'on of the im portance gel the ethic' of tort' Chanceller, and agreeing that the whine! and judicial fourth,n ought not to be ...parotid. the noble lord would enable the 'maim* of the Court of .Chantery to be trunsuteel without any Lord (is smell , * at all. Ilow extremely absurd it Was to nuke an arrangement which should enable the business to be transacted in the °borer*. of the Lord (*hanienior. Ile del nut *ay thew uloj“.tions could not he answerer! It was a mew uwasure, and deserved the greatest consich ra tam. With regard to the etelebiostical patronage, the can didate. Mr pntectierst were now to resort to the See re tory of Mt. Tr, asury. The noble lord shook his head, but he understood the Treasury transacted its business us lather government do partniesits del, through a secretary. Ile (Mr. smart) would, much rather that the patronage should relL.lill in the hood,. of an individual who was supposed to I* worthy of w hat was celled the keeper of the QUeen'lll evueer, than that it should be at the disposal el the first minister of the crown, who perchance would bestow it— hr would not iny Irma huge emisielenstlone—but upon toted donate.. w hich ought to be far rminotell from those to he ailied to the gift of Inhere and Ist mikes iu the aturell of land. r. KUUNDELL PALMER Paid if he were to come to this great question in a spirit of oppewiti 111 l , he plumb' dose on the semi,' reading, and should not new freers:l-e upon the attention of the house. But feeling as he did. mid deeply, the immortauce and the ditheulty of the subject, lead eei.liing, is it were p , .-isle, rather to assist in de:d ime with .t than tit otler any olvetruction, he thought that might u fitting occasion for etating the very serious olifti value, he felt about the measure Pr0t... 4 in; the noble teed, Ile thought it was a measure that /Mild give eat*. faction neither to the profession, to the suitoirs, nor to the ' ,y e ws,. It was proposed to relieve the Lord Chalweller from posies/ close attentiou to the judiciol business of his I court. mod fur that purpose to gise him the assistance of the MA-ter of the Rolls and of a judge of one of the coin' 11111 l law courts. Now if the Lord Chuncellor was to lie relit sod from the duty of giving clime and constant ' atte.ntien to the detail., the iuesitable consequence „„erould be that the...quit) and the common law judge, who I to be seauriated with hint, would virtually take hie *re. And, that again would I irtually amount to at Rho- Utiou of the Rolle' Court, seeing that the Muter of the Bulls would not sit in his own court. and the Lent Chan teller's court to. It uppeured.to bins too. that the mtosure would taus, a diminution of iln• judicial officers of the Court I of l'h every, at a time when an iuerense was nem drd. What , he would prOplose Was this that the Land Chancellor should have two reel-taut judges, and that th,oe judge,. olvould be taken from the lot mein on the bench, or in the courts. After all, this would he a judicious economy. Ile would propose that tiny should consolidate the colitis of kink ruptcy with the court., of chancery, as was formerly the cage. and then, by remising the system of administrution iu bankruptev„ tool in the "dusters' edicts, they would be able to threw ell the accountant bushier , * of the court , of chan cery and bankruptcy together, and to withdraw business from those courts, either of meter , or com reneeium es, to such an extent as to provide fowls out of which to pay the additional judges in chan cery. Ile further objected, in the plan of the nimble lord, to the *theme of providing for the assistance of the ! lend Chaueellor a judge from the courts of common law. judges he the common law courts were already few ttiouglo, it they rewarded only the burin se treneueted in I London ; but it they hooked to the necessities of circuit and the administration at tied priele, it would tw obvious that the withdrawal of a single judge would be an evil of which jest complaint might be trade. Ile was far from disparag ing the suggest:un of a common law judge taking his seat in an equity court. They had had, before thee, such judges in the equity courts with good results ; he thought with beneficial results in the case of the present Lord Chancellor ; but at the tame time it should he understood, that while the union of the two practices did result in benefit, it was indispensable that there should be that comprehe n•is. keno', lute; and that n familiarity w the common law should he crinelrned in a judge in as equity court, with considerable experience of equity prac tice. The bon. and learned member said, in conclusion, thiebehopoo **sable teed would receive these opinions with o f the conviction that they was °fend without the slightest wish to do otherwise dim assistithe government to the utmost of hie power in their meet Amendable movement in this direction. Mr. S. WOICiLEY had eoneuned in every word which , had fallen from the noble lord in the course of his speech, I up to the point when he began to develop his plan in re- I ;turd to the Court, of Chancery. Ile feared that, in form- I , ing this plan, the noble lord had suecumbed to the unfor tunate influence of the committee which had sat last year to consider the subject of salaries. The recommendations of that committee were throughout based on a false economy; and he considered that the same false economy had had by far ton much to do with the proposition then bt•fi ore the house. . The plan was wholly deficient in respect to the appellate jurisdiction of tho Mow of Lords. At present the complaint was that an appeal was from I the Lord Chancellor in the Court of Chancery to , the same individual in the House of Lords. By this proposed plan the appeal would be from a court, eon setting of the Lord Chancellor, the Master of the lions, and a common-law judge, to the Lord Chancellor alone ; that was to say, the appeal would be Imm a strong to a weak 1 court ; thus reverting the proper and legitimate order of fe things. Another dect in this plan was that it pro ,vided no remedy for the grievance severely felt in regard to appeals from the Scotch law courts. Mr. IIEADLAM saw considerable defects in the proposal of the noble bard. Ile rejoiced, however, that the first step towards a reform of the Chancery Courta hail been taken. Lord J. RI:SSELL, at that stage of the proceedings, would only say that the objections whirls had been urged by the hon. and learned gentlemen who had addressed the house were not, ho felt satisfied, made in any unfriendly epirit ; and that he would take some little time to consider them. (Hear.) Ile had omitted one part of the subject when he spoke last, namely, that with respect to the offices that were in the appointment of the Lord Chancellor some considerable reforms and coneolidations were contem- I plated. There were some offices that it was necessary to ' retain, and some that might be abolished; but the Lord (7haucellur would pay every attention to the subject. (hear, hear.) With regard to the appellate jurisdiction, he had reason to believe that the attention of the house of Lord, would shortly be called to the subject. (Cheers.) Sir 11. WILLOUGHBY remarked, that what the pub lic wanted was to see some improvement in the expenditure far conducting suit* in Chancery, and to see the reduction or total abolition of fees. (Cheers.) The public were de eirons of the substitution of salaries for fees. (Hear.) The ATTORNEY-GENERAL referred the hon. baronet who had just sat down to the select committee on the Court of Chancery, by which he would find that the subject was materially ulfected by the payment of the fees into a conso lidated fund. Leave was then given to bring in the hill. GENERA!, M EItCHANT Sie.t3lEN'S ACT. Sir W. SOMERVILLE mired for leave to bring in a hill to extend the benefit of certain provisions of the above net, relating to apprentices hound to the sea service, to ap prentices hound to the sea service by boards of gua rdians of the piper of Ireland. Leave granted. LOSS OF TIIE ORION. Mr. BILOTHEItTON (for Mr. Hum) moved for copies of the correepuudence that by taken place since the report .if Captain Denham (on the lon of the Orion steamer, on the 15th of June, 15.10), respecting the position of the light at Fortis:Brick Harbour, between the Board of Trails., the Admiralty, the Commissioners of the Northern Light ' buus,e, the hydrographer of the Admiralty, the Tidal Har bour Committee, and the committee fur managing the strgir. at Lloyd's. Agreed to. PROBATE OF WILLS. Mr. MCLLINGS moved fur returns of the names and imolunneits of judges, registrars, awl deputy registrars having a right to grant !indent," of will. and letters of administration in the province of Canterbury for the Led oven years ; and showing the annual expense incurred by the registrar* and deputy registrars in keeping indexes of the same. Agreed to. REGISTRATION OF DEEPS. Mr. MU LUNGS moved fur a return of the amount of fees received by the registrars of 'Wide in Mithllceex, or their deputies for the two last yearn, and of the applica tion of such tees ; also un account of the fees received for searching spacial or new indexes, and of the authority under which such fee, um demanded ; of the names of the riyistrure, deputies, and clerks, and of the emoluments of each. Agreed to. POOR LAW (IRELAND). The order of the day was discharged. APPRENTICES AND SERVANTS' BILL. Sir W. JOLLIFEE proposed the following clause "That where any young person, under the age of eighteen, ah hereafter In, hired or taken as a servant front the workluone of any union or parish, or shall be bound out a, an apprentice by the guardians of any union, or by the guardians or overseers of any 'wish, and the rt.- sidenee of the master or mistreva shall he more than five mil.% from any part of such union or parish, then a written notice of such hiring, taking, or binding, specifying the name and age of the apprentice or servant, and the name, description, and nvideuee of such master or mistress, shall be forthwith sent from such guardians or overseers to the guanli ins or overseers of the union or parish in which ouch master or mistress shall reside; and thereupon it shall bee • tlw ditty of such hot-mentioned guardians or over seers to cause the particulars cuutained in such notice to be registenal in some hook or hooka, to be provided by them for the purl...sir,. together with the name of the union or parish loon winch such notice shall have been received; and stab last-mentioned guardian. or overseers shall WOW ouch young person to be visited us frequently, and in the same manner in all respect , . as if such young person bad Jaen hired or taken front their own workhouse, or had been bound Out as an apprentice by themselves." Agreed to. A P POI NT AI ENT OFA VICE-CHANCELLOR'S BILL. Sir II ENRY WILLOUGHBY explained that he had not brought forward the motion he was about to make in committee, as he ought to have done, because he had been misinformed as to the proper time for introducing it. lle begged to propose that the retiring pension of the Vice ' The ATTORNEY-GENERAL dissented from the view "lithe hon. baronet. his only consideration for the house wee, fur what sum they could secure the most efficient services. No gentleman had ever yet accepted the unite e(Viee-Chaneellor without a very great diminution of ins aseae•—in HOLM instiumes greater than would be supposed. The consequence was, it often happened that the ser vices of the best men were lust to the country. Judge, only accepted these low salaries by remain of the retiring allowance. It would also be a great evil to have judge* retaining their office to an arc when they were no limner efficient to perform its functions. To prevent this, it was necessary to have a large retiring allowance. The first five vice-chancellors had no retiring allowance; and the exception had only occurred in the caw of Sir J. • Witeram. He was confident that a serious evil would be inflicted on the administration of justice, if a sufficient retiring allowance was uut made. On this ground he hoped the motion of the hon. baronet would not be adopted. Owing to the great reluctance to pay proper salaries, fens bad to be paid out of the suitors' fund in Chancery. The house then divided — For Sir 11. Willoughby's motion 32 Against it ENFRANCHISEMENT OF COPYHOLDS BILL. Mr. AGLIONBY begged to move the second reading of this hill, with a view to referring it to a ticket committee. If opposed, he should abandon his motion to some other I thee. I After a few word* from Mr. Mines" in which he urged that the government should be the parties to bring in the Intl, The bill was read a second time. CIVIL BILLS (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. HATCH ELI. moved the second reading of this bill. Mr. REYNOLDS moved, as an amendment, that the house now adjourn. Mr. KEOGH seconikd the amendment. The O'GORMAN MAIION censored so factious a course of opposition on the art of Irish members. Mr. E. B. ItOCILE protested against the bill being presual at that hour. (Hear, hear.) Sir W. SOMERVILLE said that if the principle of the bill was opposed, it would of course be useless to press the second reading at that hour. But he understood, from the intimations of hon. gentlemen opposite, that it was their I wish that the 'second reading should he moved then. (Hear.) Mr. EEO° II said that he did not wish it to go forth that be was opposed to the principle of the bill. Mr. HATCH ELI. said that he bad distinctly stated to lion. gentlemen opposite, that the hill woo a measure for the consolidation of about fifty acts of parliament on this subject. He had stated what the nature, the extent, and the character of the bill was, and lie believed that the principle of it was well known to the Irish members In that house. Mr. M`CCLLAGII said that what they complained of was that Irialt business was treated in a very different manner in that house from the way in which English business was conducted. (Hear, hear.) If the bill was ea had been represented by the hon. and learned gentleman. be fur one would not oppose the second reading. But the bill was very different from what it hut been represented, and, therefore, he did not think they could agree to the principle of it at that hour without some discussion. After a few 1.0,11 4 from Mr. AN.Tri. Lord PALMERSTON said that their time was some times wasted b7 differences of opinion,. but now it was wasted although they were all agreed w ith regard to the bill. Ilia right hon. friend was going to pootpone the bill • when an intimation came from the other side that he ought to proceed with it at that moment But when he proposed the second reading then they called on him to postpone it. (Laughter.) He was sure that his right hon. friend had no intention of pressing the bill contrary to the wishes of hon. members. The motion for the adjournment of the house was then withdrawn and the bill postponed. MERCHANT SEAMEN'S "IRELAND) BILL. On the motion of Sir W. SOMERVILLE, a bill to ex tend the benefit of certain provisions of the General Mer chant Seamen's Act, relating to apprentices bound to the sea service by boards of guardian, of the Poor in Ireland, was brought an and read a Sent time. The house then adjourned at two o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY CO: MAYFIELD It tawAY.—Yestertiav the committee a• this company's bill for making a railway from Mayfield, is fisessz, to mad baring a junction with, the intended line hung Tosbridge Wells to near Hass, of th e & D eb liagenuileilway, at Wadharst, referred it, being unop- THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, MARCH 28,. 1851.. posed, to Mr. Bernal, the chairman of committees. The line is to cost 12,0001., with power to borrow 4.00 W. ANGER•rfEIN'S BRANCH lttlLwAT.—Yetterday the committee on this bill for n branch railway from the , Thames to the North Kent Railway, declared the preamble proved. COMMERCIAL DOCKS IMPROTEMENT.—The corn mittec passed the preamble of this bill, to enable the Dock Company to purchase and enlarge the East Country Dock, and to construct a branch to connect their docks with the railway at Deptford. • TrfLES ASSUMPTION BILL. The Standard gives the following analysis of the division on the second reading : Ayes. Stanleyites 220 Peelites Whigs l9l ____ 433 Nem Fap to Peelites l'uceyitc Protectionists Whigs and Radicals 93 Mr. Cobden paired off, against the second reading of the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill, with Sir J. W. Hogg. Both the hon. members were prevented being present by attacks of eh, ' I J 'ortligi• TO CORItEiiPONDENTS. deettisementstotentled tor 'lke LA WEIN" Loudon Evening roper, must two. the Ohne, to, Bottecrte•stroct, by Two o'clock on the dry of ptelssicetion. RUM WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TtrP thi—Morning. I Ih. Stn. ..... Artersean, I2u. TOMIKSOW—M OII .yr, Ifl. Um Ath room. 14k. ;:at. LONDO.A; FRIDAY, MARC!! 28. SELDOM has there been more doubt and more di versity of opinion than as to the fact, whether the lower classes of this country entertained strong and indignant feelings on the score of the late papal and priestly aggression, or whether they were not really in a great measure indifferent, and keeping aloof from participation in the resistance and excitement, certainly expressed by the middle and the better classes. It is undoubted that the population, even of our gnat cities, are no longer what they were in 1780, liable to be roused by u mere no-popery cry into a destructive and rebellious riot. But the fact is that a mob and a riot are no longer the modes in which our working ur even idle class choose to express their convictions or to vent their passions. Whenever, fifty years ago, they would wield u stave or brandish a torch, they would now meet, a chosen few of them in a room, discuss pro posals, and pass resolutions. The dissuasive habits of the middle class have passed to the inferior, and we have got a much more ratiocinatury than turbu lent population now to deal with. There have been, however, other causes at work to abate the popular horror of popery. That horror was created two or three centuries ago, and sprung from the persecution, the burning, and the cruelties exercised amongst the many victims from amongst the English people. The sentiment was handed down front father to son, recorded in a popular lite rature of its own. and refreshed or graven deeper into the public mind by events not so dreadful us the original persecution, but still alarming and ex citing. The gunpowder plot, the tire of London, OATES' plot, the Irish rebellions, the struggle of the rival dynasties were revivals, feelings instilled by tradition, and kept aroused the popular aversion to Popery. But all these have died away. How faint is the memory or the tradition of MARIAN per secution ! Who is alarmed by the clatter of wooden shoes? How many volumes have replaced Fox's "Martyrs" on the cottager's shelf? But whilst these influences have been so much obli terated with the lower classes, readers of more leisure have had such sentiments resuscitated and repeated. The events of Route, the policy of Austria, the crisis even in France, together with the ecclesiastical usurpations in Ireland and in England have, during the lust few years, aroused the attention and excited the alarm of all those who have time and opportu nity to glean information front daily papers. They see plainly that popery, not merely ecclesiastical, hut political popery, is again raising its head, and with more arrogance, as will as with mum powerful bucking than ever. But these circumstances, which have inflamed and excited the middle classes, have not reached the lower classes at all in the same proportion. Excluded from the daily press by its price, and confined to penny and the Sunday public a t ions, which g ive but a mete compendium of events, and which prefer moth the instilling of theories to the communication of facts, the lower classes have not the same means of information and the same opportunities of judg ment as those above them. The CoaNcia.Lon of the Exennountt, in dealing with the taxes on knowledge, or in not dealing with them, should look to this. lle and his party think themselves working a conservative good by confining the daily press to the better endowed classes; whereas they ate really working a subversive evil; fur they are excluding the working classes from daily information of facts, and confining them to a Sunday's lecture ou theory, which generally carries toleration to the point of infidelity, and philanthropy to socialism. Bad a sign as it would be to tied our operative One in a state of inflammatory susceptibility like the Irish, and ready to break forth into violence at the l int clamour of fanaticism, it would be equally den serous to discover that the musses of the empire had grown indi f f erent to th e creeds, I and a stranger to the ideas, of every class above them. One thing we may be sure of. which is, that the people are never really indifferent in matters so serious as religion, and that if they have not a lively faith, they have, or will soon have, a lively unfaith. And we mar feel confident that if *OM want of influence or conduct, or a proper organ isation of religious sects dominant or not dominant, the people fall off from all. we may be certain that they - win not fall into the mere void. In fact, if they fersake spiritual religion they will embrace . 0 material one; and in despairing of or slighting those hopes and habits, which look to futurity in another life, they will build themselves up something in lieu of a raigion, based on the prosperity and perfectibility of this life. In ceasing to become Christians, they will become communists. We have seen it everywhere upon the continent. And there are all the elements, though none of the develop ments of it, already here. We should be sorry, therefore, to think that the certain progress of tolerant and humane ideas, as well se of ratiocinating habits amongst the English people, had gone to the extreme of producing complete indifference to a struggle between creeds and churches. the one professing and allowing liberty of opinion, of judgment and of practice, the other, making it a first principle to deny the right of either reason or liberty in matters of religion. We have taken some pains to ascertain the fact of how the populations of great towns have been affected by the question now in agitation; and we must say. Ant our conviction is, that in all the numerous ma jority entertain the same aversion which their fore fathers did, though expressed in milder words and better tempered tones, towards the dogmatic, the arrogant. and sacerdotal pretensions of the Italian sect of ultra-Christianity. MORE commissioners! Verily our bureaucracy is a cormorant that nothing will satisfy. The more it has the more it craves. Nothing is too big for its swallow or too small fur its notice. Whatever , comes is well come in the way of prey ; and when , the supply of good things grows scare;, its omnivo eons appetite is ready to put up with the coarsest ; fare. To-day we behold it engaged in the dainty delights of an " cr,ity " inquiry to morrow it is ready to make a meal of a " market." Oxford cloisters or Smithfield pens are all alike to our rulers. Will they feed a set of commissioners -1 say three or five well born importunate hangers-on of the party in power who are fit for nothing else ? , That is the practical point of view in which abuses " in colleges or slaughter-houses present themselves to the official eye. The Smithfield question has for several years engaged no incon.nlerable share of metropolitan attention; not merely amongst that loquacious sec tion of the community who delight in the dilletant ism of what are called "public improvements," and every one of whom cherishes the fond belief that every questionable change in our chief thoroughfares I and edifices "was an old idea 0 , his," and, if truth were told, the result of a confidential hint given i long ago by him "in the proirr quarter,"—not . only, we say, have all this class had their hearts set upon a revolution in Smithfield for some time, but the far greater, far worthier, but likewise fur more credulous portion of the community, who are good naturedly ready to cry " of course 4 when any quid mine propm.s to abolish any conceivable nuisance, i by any conceivable means: all these are in favour of what is tonic' " getting rid of the cattle market." How this is to be done, at whose peculiar cost, or for whose particular benefit, these unrefleetiug folk trouble themselves not to inquire. Cattle driven across the bridges, slaughter-houses in the heart of the town, bad smells, wanton discom fort caused to inoffensive sheep, vehicles of impatient gentlemen stopped frequently two minutes and a half in the street, unnecessary dirt, delay, and din—what free and enlightened people can be expected to en dure it ? Or who but a slave to the corporation of London would resist the general demand for the im mediate and total abolition of this intolerable evil? We have put an end to intro-mural interments ; why not also to intro-rearm markets? The ease is ob vious. It signifies nothing where the new market is placed so as we get it, with all its appurtenances, sufficiently far away from the tips of our fastidious noses. . _ Not being quite so exquisitely fashioned ns some of our neighbours, and being fret' to own that, with persons of moderate income and frugal habits, we have an intense curiosity as to the probable price of butchers' meat, not only next week, but next year, and the year after: cherishing, likewise, a sincere preference for good, fresh, abundant, and Nimbler supplies of this article of prime necessity—we cannot' make up our minds to the prudence of destroying the great source of our daily sustenance and solace, and taking chance for what may he the consequences. We do not care a farthing tim Smithfield interests, immemorial usages regarding wether mutton, or the constitutional right of the Aldermen and Council to neglect and mismanage the City markets. We are thinking selely of the great question—Where, how, and fin- how much per pound, are two millions of us to get our chine •? Phis is a touching question. We must knew what the effect will be upon price and supply of compelling all sales of live stock and all conversion of live stock into joints, cutlets, and steaks, to be done in one remote suburb or in two. Cleanliness, ven tilation, and architectural adornment are ail very well in their way; but a steady, plentiful, and cheap supply of animal food is to a beef and mutton eating community rather more important than such considerations, even wero it true, ns assumed by the extirationists, that these advantages areincompatible with a central market. No thing, however, can be more gratuitous than such an assumption. Them are three considerations relative to the Smithfield question; the economic we have just dwelt upon ; the sanitary one, upon which all the world expatiates; and the insecurity of the streets, which is the most disgraceful, and fatal at least to individuals. Now of all the plans proposed, not one of them touches the last; and we repeat what we said months ago, that if two or three markets were feasible at different extremities of the city, which would prevent the passage of cattle through the streets and across the bridges, that would be the plan to grasp at. But all the world admits this to be impossible. We are to have one market, and cattle arc to go to and come from it in all directions. There will be regulations of course, bat there may be regulations in one case or in the other, so that for the street or bridge droves of cattle there is oftired no remedy. Let us, therefore, put that question aside, and come to the sanitary. Take the vast proposal of improvement made by the corpomtion, which in itself is the reform of one of the closest quarters in London, and contem plate all its alternatives, this quarterremaining us it is, and Smithfield probably built on—on which side is the greatest sanitary improvement ? If utter this we clime back to the question of eco nomy, that principle renders indispensable a large dent meat market in the midst of London, with a certain number of slaughter-houses. For most indubitably, if the butchers at Brompton and at Peckham are dependent fur a remedy to a short supply on the alternative of sending a cart to Islington, the inhabitants of this quarter must inevi tably be exposed to a glut at one time, extortion at others, whilst now and then they may possibly go • without their dinner. The mistake lies in our con sidering London a city of continental propor tions, where an afsgtoi:•, though beyond the contact of streets, is still ever within reach. London it a world, and Islington is as much a part of it as Faribigdon-street. And unless the market, its unsightliness and unhealthiness, be banished to beyond I lighgate, or to the other side of the Surrey hills, it will be found a nuisance in a populous district. The fact is, that every One of our ne cessities are nuisances, that of slaughtering, vending, and consuming animal food amongst the most prominent. Proscribe it we cannot; all we can do is to regulate it, and to consider that the subject we arc legislating about is not the cholera or the plague, but simply the dinners of two millions of people, 10t).000 of whom may be very fastidious, and willing to pay for meat brought from the Pole., whilst the remaining 1,900,0;e1 are very hungry, isior, and nut over -nice. TIIE Puseyite candle which has been so long bunting in St. Barnabas has gone out after the man ner of all candles. The flame flickered fitfully for some time, oscillated wildly about the socket, col lected itself at last in one great " flare up," and then sunk into night, leaving behind much smoke, and a very unpleasant odour. Now, as all sorts of lights physical as well as moral, are being extinguished every day, we should not have devoted much atten tion to the extinction of the one just mentioned, had not the moths who have been fluttering around it, and who have, we verily believe, helped to fan it out, been to the last degree anxious that a natu ral event should bo taken for a supernatural phenomenon. We arc requested to look upon the flickering and oscillation as something fitted to ex cite wonder and admiration—the final flare up (the ,stare, the celebration of the Feast of the Annuncia tion, &c., &c.), as a great demonstration—and the' unsavoury odour as a holy perfume. We are desired to consider the earnestness and sorrow manifested by the large number of persons who attended the last ministrations of Mr. BENNETT as soma thing uncommon; eve are told to regard their disap pointment as something awful; we are warned that the " protest" in which Sir J. HARINGTON and Mr. CAVENDisII have taken so prominent a part is an important sign of the times. To all this we demur. Without wishing to undervalue the estimation in which Mr. BENNETT is held by that portion of his parishioners who have been brought round to his way of thinking, we must at the same time claim some sympathy fur the still larger portion, whose feelings, as members of the church of England, have been cruelly set at nought and injured by the conduct of the pastor who had been placed over them. Mr. BEN NET 1. it la true, collected a large body of admirers around him at his two churches ; but every one knows that such an achievement is the very re verse of difficult to a man of piety, zeal, and energy, in the mast of a population of two millions. To whatever denomination a preacher may belong, these qualities in the metro polis cannot fail of success. The truth is, and it must be told, for it applies not only to Mr. BENNETT, but to every high-church clergyman in London, whose labours have met with any appreciation, that his ministrations in the parish Lave been anything but satisfactory. As a tolerably correct test of the accuracy of this assertion, we may point to the well-known fact that house agents have more difficulty in letting houses in Mr. BENNETT'S district than in any other in the neighbour hood. The congregation in Mr. BEN:sires churches was a heterogeneous mixture of dwellers in other parishes, drawn together by their admiration of a histrionic service. That gentleman tried by the parochial test—a test which his admirers ate always proud of appealing to—is found wanting. The in habitants, with few exceptions, leave the parish church, and the congregation is made up of recruits from the multitudinous polishes of the greatest city ur the world. Every dangler in the ante chambers of popery, who had not made up his mind to lilt up the curtain and pre sent himself formally to tho lady in scarlet, but who could find nothing to satisfy him in his own parish church, cooled hie heels en attendant in St. Paul's and St. Barnabas, as he will now do in I St. Andrew's. Mr. NEwMAN, in his powerful lec tures last year, warned the Anglican clergymen that their movement was anti-national, that in relation to England it was un-historical ; the state of all the Anglican churches proves the same fact, and now at the eleventh hour Mr. BENNETT confirms this by his own assertions. In his sermon on Sunday morning he remarked: There existed in this country anationql antipathy against a particular branch of the catholic church, and it was not wonderful, therefore, that such a feeling should descend to the people, or that they should take part in the attacks which had been made in Tarious quarters upon that branch of that church. Now, if this is the case, why is the peace of a parish to be disturbed by the advocacy of views con fessedly anti-national? Wily do the bishops refuse to come forward to liberate parishes from the oppres sion of priests who endeavour to introduce a system opposed to the entire traditional be lief of the country ? What right have the extra-parishional members of the congregation of St. Barnabas to encourage the incumbent- of the parish, by their presence and their contributions to persist in a line of conduct which prevents the parishioners from participating in a sem ice to which they are entitled by the law of the land? And this brings us to the protest issued by the lion. It. ' CAvvansit, and concocted with the help of Sir J. limuNG - rox and others. There is no doubt that these gentlemen have a perfect right to wor ship Gon in the way which appears best to them. Few people will blame them for listening to the argu meats of Mr. BENNETT by which he supported an innovation which ran counter to the feelings of the enormous majority of churchmen. As far as this persuasion is concerned we have only to deal with a matter of private judgment. When, however, these persons wish to elevate their own estimate of what is right, into an immutable standard for a vast body of which they are numerically but an insignificant fraction ; when they pronounce the conduct of the Bishop in calling upon Mr. BEN NETT to resign as "an arbitrary and il -1 legal stretch of power. altogether unprece dented,l which is most dangerous to the liberties of the clergy and laity," when they fete and elevate to the rank of a martyr a contumacious priest who has abused the trust reposed in him, by making use of a national house of worship for the disse mination of doctrines and the celebration of a service in all essential features assimilating with those of a church against which it is the characteristic of the national church to protest —then it is time that such men should be marked, as " those who cause divisions amongst us. " They are schismatics in the worst sense of the word. The utmost that their own wordy protest asserts is, that two of Mr. BENNETT'S usages have not been formally condemned; and us much as this can be said in favour of standing on the head, or performing a series of acrobatic exercises at the altar. Whereas against them we have Mr. BENNETT's own words in hit farewell on Monday evening : " The kind of service that he had proposed to establish for his congregation had been objected to by the world in general." This surely is enough for his condem nation and their confutation. We repeat, the laity have spoken out decidedly on the question. Parish churches must no longer be made the subject of high-church experiments. In the meantime, as large numbers of the clergy are infected with the tractarian heresy—as the bishops are evidently disposed to coquet with the movement —why not erect a few proprictory chapels, and de.' vote them exclusively to the use of the I'useyite clergy? The thing would then stand by its own merits. The people would be able to return to their own churches, and those who are in love with this quasi-popery would have the satisfaction and the merit of paying for it. FRANCE. PARIS, TIirRADAT EVEXING. Yesterday the committee on the Municipal Hill arrived, after an animated debate, ut the following results, which will modify, in an important manner. the electoral provisions of the law of May 31. On the proposition of Otlilon Barrot, the committee resolved that a register should be formed in every commune. in order to constitute the electoral dorm- elkeite by right of birth or by right of acquisition. The right of suffrage by acq . uisition is subjected to the condition of three years domieiliation in the com mune. The committee then resolved, by 19 votes against 8. that citizens who have satisfied the law of recruitment in a commune have their electoral domicile in that commune as lon ... as they continue to reside there. Such wi. be inscribed on the electoral lists by virtue of the declaration by the municipal council, that they have continued to reside there; and they will be maintained on the lists during succeeding years, sol long as the municipal council does not declare the contrary. M. Leon Faucher made yesterday a chivalrous effort to cover the Elysee against the assault given by M. Raze in bringing at once to the vote the vexed question whether the same electoral law is to apply to the President and the Assembly. M. Fau cher opportimely suggested that it was of equal im portance to know if the same chvtoral law should apply to the municipal and political elections. The Assembly, however, intent tqsm keeping the ground of attack upon the President as clear as possible from all questions which might embroil the debate, admitted for discussion on the same day with the Iproposition of M. Desmares, only one of the three aing amendments _proposed on the electoral law of May 31. It rejected the discussion of the proposi tion of M. Dalwaux, which aims at applying the law of May 31 to the municipal elections, because it pre tended that it could not forestall the conclusions of the municipal bill committee. M. Victor Lefranc withdrew his motion for an inquiry into the results of the law of 31st of May. There remained only the motion of M. Arnaud (de lAri4re) for the aboli tion of the law, which was filed for discussion on Friday, after the proposition of M. lksmares. M. Arnaud was absent, or it was said that he would have withdrawn his motion. It was expected that he would do so today. M. Faucher's tactics, there fore, however well-meant to shield the President on one hand, and to snatch from the Assembly on the other a formal confirmation of the law of 31st May, met with complete tltilure. This may be taken as a measure of t!w support which would accrue to that statesman. if he entered upon office. Much surprise was occasioned by his being supported by M . l'isca tory, whose recent hostility to the President was shown by his fur from courteous report on the motion of M. de Remusat. The discussion of the Avignon Railway Bill, fixed for to-morrow, is expected to be adjourned. in conse quence of the electoral motion of M. Desmares. MM. Bourut, Dupont (de Hussar.), and seven other menders of the Mountain, yesterday presented a proposition in the Legislative Assembly, declaring that the allowance made by the state to French car dinals, for the expense of installation, shall be hence forward suppressed, and that all sums allowed for such purpose or for the speeLl salary of these divi twice shall not be paid after the Ist of May, POI. M. de Lavalette, the new ambassador to the Sub lime Porte, is immediately to proceed to his destina tion. A war steamer has been placed at his disposal to convey hint to Civita N'ecehm, front whence he' will proceed to Rome, in order to conic to an under standing with the Pope on the subject of the Chris tians in the East. M. de Lavalette will only remain a few days in the Roman capital , and will then pro ceed to e ons tantinople. M. de Bourqueney, son of the former ambassador m Turkey, accompanies him as an attache. To-day M. Medics de Montjau interpellated the Minister of Public Instruction on the suspension of the lectures of M. Michela ; mid on the dismissal of MM. Jacques and Guepin, public teachers. The law on adulteration of goods was passed. Ministerial combinations for the formation of the definitive cabinet are again the order of the day. I mentioned yesterday that in which M. Faucher would take the lead with a Fould-Raroche re plritrage. Last night another combination of mo- derate legitimists and Ronapartiats was spoken of las more probable. An article m the Patne, dwel- Il a g n o ce n t ‘ h i e th a t d h v e an k t gi ag t c imi t to be reports prevailing on this subje c t. On drawn some rom colour th i t os new On the day before yesterday M. Waisse gave a grand dinner to the President and ministers, which was regarded as a farewell entertainment before re signing his scat in the transitory cabinet. .._, Jh usa , . ' The funds continue to decline, on account of the ! unsettled look of the political horizon. A fall of 2.5 centimes in the Fives was attributed to the impend ing discussion of the motion of M. l)esmares. Tho Fives closed at 93.85; the Threes, at 57.83, a full of ;I 10 centimes on yesterday. The railway share mar -1 ket, on the other hand, was brisker than usual, and l e several investments of English houses in these wea -1 rities were announced. The Lzbert%, of Lille, gives an account of the result of the investigation lately instituted in that town by the committee appointed to carry out the law relative to the improvement of the dwellings of the poor. It has examined into the condition 0f340 cellars nd 469 other dwellings. Of the former, 212 have been declared as uninhabitable, and the other 128 have been ordered to have material alterations effected in them. Eighty-six of the other dwellings have been con demned as not being capable of improvement, and two entire houses have been interdicted, and arc to be entirely reconstructed. 383 dwellings are ordered I to be thoroughly cleansed before they are again let. The committee has also given orders for various measures of ventilation, paving, sewerage, &c. The proprietors of the houses have generally been ready to do all in their power to meet the views of the committee. SWITZERLAND. The Swiss journals of the 25th contain but few additional details on the affair of Friburg. On the insurgents were found the list of a provisional go vernment charged to draw up a new constitution and a decree for establishing a court-martial with ahsolute power. There was also found a proclamation announcing the dissolution of tho present government, the dismissal of all function aries, &e. The Berme de iriene , re states that eight or nine peasants were killed in the attempted insurrec tion, and that Cunard, the leader, and many more of the insurgents, were taken prisoners. The Council of State had declared the town in a state of Neither the townsmen nor the eountry people at the market showed any sympathy with the movement. SPAIN. We have received the Madrid journals of the 21st. The committee on the bill on the debt held another sitting in the evening of the 20th. It heard M. AhLonar and another gentleman, as representatives of the creditors whose claims arise from damage done to their property in the civil war. The committee appeared most tabourablc disposed to this class of creditors, and M. de Vilifies pmposed to word the Gth clause of tho bill in such a way as to afford them. full rattislaction. Eventually, the division was post poned to atthrd time to the government to express its opinion. Thu Senate on the 20th was occupied with the bill on the Court of Accounts; the Chamber of Deputies with that on the levy of 25,04X1 men. GERMANY. A letter from Vienna of the 22nd 1114. states that the Emperor, before leaving the capital on a journey to Trieste, gave his sanction to the statutes of tho Imperial Council Iteides Rath, the creation of which has been a source of rumour for some time past. The object of the Emperor's visit is to meet King Otho and Prince of Carignan. trbe eotttl. The Queen and Prince Albnt, attended by tho Cowtteres of Desart, Hon. Lucy Kerr, Lord Elphiastone, Lord Alfred Paget, and Colonel Boaccrie, honoured the 1'6=0...A Theatre with their pristenc t ou Wisho stlay et en ing. Iler Majesty end the Prince, attended by the Laths; and Gentlemen in Waiting, afterwards visited the Duehess of Gloucester at Gloucester Muse. The Duchess of Cam bridge and the Princess Mary also visited the of Gloucester on Wednesday (the birthday of his Royal High ness the Duke of Cambridge), and wet the Queen and Prince Albert. Mr. Hughes, the Solicitor-General for Ireland, was pre sented to the Queen by Sir George Grey ut the Levee on Wednesday. Der Majesty and Prince Albert walked yesterday morn ing in the garden of Buckingham Palace. Lord John Batmen hal an audience of the Queen yester day at Buckingham Palace. Prince Albert' rod:, out on horseback yesterday morning, attended by Colonel Bouveric. The royal family took their usual pony and walking exer- Cilte yesterday in the gardens of the Palace. Pnnee Albert, attended by Colonel Homeric, visited din building in Ilyil,park for the exhibition of the industry of all nations yesterday afternoon. The Marquis and Marchioness of Breadalbane, and Lieut.-Colonel Francis Seymour had the honour of dining with her Majesty yesterday evening at Buckingham Palma A deputation from Portsmouth, consisting of Mr. Benjamin Bramble (Mayor), Mr. Janus Hoskins, Mr. Thomas Ellis Gwen, and Mr. Howard (town clerk), had an interview on Wednesday with the Chattedby of the Exche quer, at his official residence in Downing street. Lord Ashley had nn interview with Sir George Grey on Wednesday at the Horde-ullice. Colonel Freestun, kr., had also an interview with the right hon. baronet. The Oxford University Commission met on Wednesday at the official resid,nea of the First Loot of the Treasury in Downing-street. Present: the Bishop of Norwich, tho Dean of Carlisle, the Master of Pembroke, the Rey. If. G. Liddell, J. L. Lima der , Esq., the 'ley. Professor Powell, the Rev. O. 11. S. Johnson, owl the Rev. A. P. Stanley (secretory). ' Mr. John Wood, Chairman of the Board of Inland Ito ' UMW, had an inters iew with the Chancellor of the Exche quer on Wednesday, at In. official residence in Downing street. Mr. Pressly had also an interview with the right hon. baronet. Despatches were received yesterday at the Colonial-ollice from the Governors of South Australia, the Mattritias, awl Lotman Despatches were also received (min the Lord I I Orli Commissioner of the lonian Islmads, and the Governors of Malta awl Gibraltar. Mr. M. D. Him., Q.C., has been appointed Com miodoner in Bankrupty at Brbdol. MISS TALBOT will, we have reason to believe, ho placed antic' , the care of a Rota:in catholic Peeresq of high rank. In deference to the widt exprewied by the Lord Chancellor, we forbear mentioning the none.— Globe'. THE CilAseEmon of the Exult:tin-At has re vived from " Verne," 101., on account of a....evnil taxes. The amount hint beta paid over to the Weaver General of Inland Revenue. LADY PALMERSTON . 6 party for next Saturday is puttponixl. THE VACANT SEAT FOR SOMERSET.—On Tuesday Ralph Neville, Est, of Butleigh, put in private circulation amongst the magistracy of the county nn fuldress to tho electors of Somerset. Mr. Neville intimates that as a fort night has elapfed and theirsutfrages ore still unsolicited, ho i. in to come forward te. a candid de. lit mow. him self an opponent of Etc present government and of its Inca cure on papal aggro--ion, all legislation on which subject he is decidedly mese, d to, and he "sincerely believes that e. 10s. or ss. protective fluty on torn would he as injurious to the producing as to the esinswoing classes." Mr. Dore Langton oilco issu(al an address to the electors ou Wishies clay, in which he demands their support as a conservative mud a protectionist. EretEetAsTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BlLL—Last night a 111101er0U9 and exceediugly .stormv meeting of the inhabitauts of St. Dunstan's, Stepney, was held at the Red raft School, Stepan y-green, to take into consideration the bill now pending for suppressing the assumption of eccle siastical titles by lbonidi priests in Great Britain and Ire land. The Bev. Mr. lAT, the rector, hying called to tho chair, Mr. Moir moved the first resolution, to the effect that the recent arrogant act of the Bishop of Rome called fur the united and determined opposition of all loved protestant) The Bee. Mr. M'Caul seconded the resolution. and showed that the papacy never stopped at spiritual power, but carried its dictation into all that was chi...fled by a human will. They wanted to oppose popery in time, before the truth became contralituid here as it was in Rome. Mr. Dunn, amidst incessant cries and interruption, oeca sioned by a dozen violent independent discussions car ried on in all of the meeting, moved an amendment that parts s royal supremacy was not of retied by the papal Bull. The ar,ruinents of the speaker were directed against the episcopal (hutch gre.crit meat generally.--Mr. Cumming, u dissenting minister, supported the resolution, because he thought an insult had beets offered to the Queen, and because, thotioli a dieaafter, he held that the established church was the bulwark of re ligious liberty in this country.—A young man named Coombe here presented himself with a resolution, but was met by loud cries of " You are an atheist, an infidel, and a socialist." The pent up violence then broke out in con tinued cries of "No popery," "The Queen," "The Pope," " Cardiuul Wiseman," during which a petition was adopted regretting the abandonment of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th clauses of Lord John Russell's bill, and protesting against the synodical action of the church of Moue both at home and in our hireign territories. The nteetinit, though threatening violence frequently, separated peaceably. SERPENTINE BATHING Cu:B.—The fifth annual meeting of the members of this dub was held on Tuesday last, at 37, Cl:ages-street. F. Baker, Esq., took the thaw.' and commented on the great advantages enjoyed at a trilling cast by the members of the club, eompared with the open air bathers. Regret was generally expressed that the improvement in the condition of the §ggcntine, so excellently begun in Kensington-gazeloW Aro'.teics back, had not been completed. r - -,.. - N- . 7 - • ' . - • • ;•• ' - *'. • r i. •,:s. , _._o - .. •- ' i':: 1 f H I i