The Express. — London, England, 1852-02-17 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAY, FRa. 16. The Loan CHANCY/11AZ wok Ili rest u !ti o'clock. PETITIONS PIII3BIINTED. of the malty of Dublin and from a plan in tionterattabire, spinet the pant to Maynootb. _ _ OUTBAGEB IN IRELAND. The Bad of RODIN haw stelae of his istsaiisa ft pot • gumbos mammy (this dmy) with reforms ft •••ftla to tib• th• - -• of WWI. niers. se AFF 07 Egl A. The Had of liaill/611017151IIStitaired whether a eowesittee woad bo sepoisted is that house. as well as in the other, to issisieslids the Albin of India before the tondisatios of the •s chador? He hoped that the gl. whisi wadi ist before parliament M this side wadi avarle• lbw shish were seeessiu7 to throw spin his see EMU hem lise governor-gesiraiship. wide eat feeder Iseptiod what were the snevabees tads Nesse of whisk as espefJdos had bees sent to Ras pea, and whether the troth of those grievances had bees pwly ascertains,' ? Marque of LANSDOWNE said • committee wools' be moved foe apes as early day in their lorsl.lsips' house, as it was the wish of the cu. vemment to give to Parliament all the informers° nece.tary to form a sound jade:omit upon the affairs of India preparatory _to the steps noceesory to be taken on the expiration of the Rot India Company's charter. Al to the personal question, of whether it would be expedient to pros duce the papers rel itire to the noble earl's recall, he me w only re that be had not at prownt been able to read them ; and with ratan' to the expedition to Rangoon there were good grounds for demanding redress, and there wee no res.'s to doubt that the conduct of the King of Ave bad preemded from a desire to give such satisfaction r was re quired. la reply to smother question, he added that an expedition had "wen scat to Rangoon to demand satisfac tioa from the King of Ave. He considered that all who had Is, en engaged in that service bad satisfactorily performed their duty. THE TROOP SHIP MEO.ERA. . _ . The Nam of MON 11t038 called the attention of the house to the unwaworthy and overcrowded condition in which the Mower% .team-frigate had been dispatched to the Cll.. and • di•ciooion been a. to whether that vowel lad been overcrowded or not, in the (nurse of which Lord Pinto, having defended the Admiralty, and contended that in all their arranaintents • due morn had been had to the health sail comfort of the troops, laird Elenhorough moved for • return of the numher of men, women, and children embarked on hated the Megwra, and the tonnage of that ship, deduction tononnejof the machinery, which return was ultimately ordered. TUE ATENT LAWS. Lord BROUGHAM said that be would recommend their lordships not to adopt two or three of the amendments mode be the other hoes., of parliament in this bill last session, giving to the intent agrota a perpetual monopoly; but, wetting aside this-, amendment s , he hoped their . lordships I would lagfCC to a measure embodying the clauses in the bill of kat Dimwit ; and such was the measure which he had Istrnlaced ti,e other night, and which warn read a best time. Ile wished to mike this explanation because the noble earl the Seeretary for Foreign Affairs, who brought in a bill on the select bud year, was not prefect when his bill was read • first time the other night. Lord STANLEY. of Alderley, said the government bill of this par was sere similar to that of last year. SECRETARY OF BANKRUPTS' OFFICE ABOLI- TION BILL. On the motion that tbi. bill be re e d a third time, Lord BROUO LIAM said it had been .tated in the other house that tick bill was a job of Lord Cottenham's ; he could only say it was a job to get rid of 3,0001. a year now paid by the public. After a few words from the LOAD CHANCELLOR, who said the officer who held the appointment Will quite ready to lire it up, the bill was read a third time and passed. The home then, at half.past 6 o'clock, adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MONDAT, Fn. 16. The S took the chair at 4 o'clock. NEW MEMBER. _ _ Capt. Microvoltieoh ii;iTail;;nd his seat for East lietford, In the room of the lion. Arthur Duncombe, who had accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. MR. FEAROUS O'CONNOR. Mr. F. O . CONNOS Van inc of the earliest members in attendance today. The boo. member appears to have suf. *red much from his incarceration in Coldbath•fields prison. He no longer presents tb, bold front and jolly rollicking appearance for which he was so remarkable, but stespa considerably, walks with an indent and ascertain seep, rad looks exceedingly pale and haggard. Mr. O'Connor anoomd especially anxious throughout the evening to court as ni• tentim of other members, many of whom km odigilog Sa shake barb with him. PRIVATE BUSINESS. _ ._ _ The following bills were read a second time, and refined to select onnintittecs :—Aberdeen Boys' and Girls' Hee* tals ; Athlone Marken sad Customs; Bernstuple Markets end Fein ; Belfast Ow; Birkenhead Docks ; Birkenhead Dock Trustees and Birkenhead Dock Company; British Empire Mutual Life Aniaranee Company ; Devvid• Rail way ; Hart Anglian Railway s; Exeter Roads; Forth end Clyde Navi g ation ; Fromm, Yeovil, and Weymouth Relic way (No. 1); Fromm, Yeovil, and Weymouth Railway (No. 2) • Great Western, Shrewsbury and Birmingham. Shrewslinry and Chester, Shrewsbury and Ilereford, kenneled, Lancashire, and Cheshire Junction, and linefeed, Boos, and (Dosimeter Railway Companies ; Ipswich Desk t' Kingston-upes-Hull Does and Docks; Leeds, Bradford. and Halifax Junction Railway; Loudon (City) Improve ments; London (City) Small Debts Extension; London derry cad Co!eraine Railway ; Londonderry and Enniskil len Railway; Patent Solid Sewage Manure Company; Retfurd and Littleborough Road ; Skiptou and Craw Road ; South Staffordshire Railway; South Wales Railway; San derland Waterworks; Ulverston Waterworks; York 40i North Midland and East and West Yorkshire Junction Railways. MANCHESTER, SHEFFIELD. AND LINCOLN SHIRE RAILWAY. Tb weetiou for reading this bill a second time wee:poet punted till Friday. RAMSOATE ROYAL HARBOUR BILL. Sir F. BARINO hoped the bill would be postponed for the present. He was in negotiation with the parties, and hoped to make arrangements which would prevent tin ne eessi,y of further opposition. Alter a few words ham Mr. Hera and Mr. 'Wane, the bill was postponed till Monde text. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. root 0011.41 AND CA kilIAOl Dom—For repeal of by Id r. J.W I LLI AMS, from Mewiesald Leisear, sad Mer thyr, S.W.; Mr. B. HUOMMHeis anodrees; Sir G. CLERIC, from Dover • Mr.MEITT. the peebeseters of Anaorer ; CcL A. TYIITE hum VslArair• Mr. WILLCOX, from pesemeeineei .711.4,114 from Bence. and 11r. V. SMITH, hew met Morsoorit Gana:.—By Sir E. mous. that dis continuases of, from 2,300 dewy, bans, sad neeshaata, of Liverpool. N MONA L EDUCATION.—By Mr. 15. CRAWFORD, from R.,chdale, for national education by Iced rates. CALLING OUT or MILITIA.—By Mr. 0. THOMP SON, from the Tower Hamlets, against the ening oat of the militia. Convasire.—lly Mr. F. MAULE, from Perth, praying that convents might be pat vier the wand of magistrates ; Mr. SMOLLETT, from female inhabitaats of the parish of Row, Dambartoo, for so inspecties of convents and wan- Wine. BB( ULAN RDUCATION.—By Mr. H. GIBSON, hem Sal ford, in favour of secular edwatioa. THR NATIONAL GALLIUM. Mr. zwurr mid be had gives maw et his Wades to pead peon lbw the Sadat Asibb the pad part el the Naiad he the be eltaXhare Is the west ot the X be Ltthisetem. Ho bawd thee hi was staftessey to esearet st Oa led= yon pellelew Moe preassited, swil he le alb as wildo add the heed et the goosnmet V wadi apse to Led =ISM& wee owasesed t h e st i rtlM l = afraid ft he waeoisd it weal haply thst he spool he M etas pa The pales was ah ostirrearated. NOTICES OF MOTION. tin GOUT paw swiss that so Tassay he awn meow, as us sesewilaa es the nodes et the wastafif he the talyenity of Dads. bra area • to a quire into the awes which haw des of the law imildest 6002 1. • the wows Is the amass of 2 . sobered to in the spode bee s *west. Hat semasitees be aphelia Is boobs bes Se soma et whhe sod wasp is these babe% sod studder as law repulse 6r weir angel= =DO RI. Mr. H. DRUILMOND sawed br ea same for espies et. or slaws bow, a aspeedise tesee Sir Jame fresh, wed hew Lirsit-Gewera to Fevelpreasortish • 'ebb to OW Resters Amapa/0 Coispay. Mr. HUM rase Is saran be awe, bet wee ewe ' Rise a "Ora." The SWIZZ NU that Ebbe was Übe • dade a models br robara k wart awe es ear the ollh ase = den of th t : we V is t was laly mamma task en *ow be so. ATTACK ON LAGOS. Lord J. RUSSELL, ia reply le Mr. Hat*, Mad Sae would he so abeam 44 podia all the aniensiiinn relative' in the reset THE EAST PlDlA lli na e rgni s ral s tVa Mr. F. MAULS pm wok, that es he would owe braant onenittes te hoe be alba sidle East India Cowpony with Nab b the set 3 sad 4 Wa. IV., it. 116, sad to report as the opattiew of that set MANCHESTER AND SALFORD EDUCATION BILL. Xs. =ATHERTON lied the mesa seeding of the ' Mosalsoska end Beard Evastios Bill br Wednesday wash. EDUCATION IN SCOTLAND. Is aosneolknquesSon from Mr. F. Macsserws, Lewd J. RHaILL laid that a aware remiss weds. webs is latha was is sad he le sped be be able to huredae thie E FLU DI TSI HOUSE. Mr. NOON= begged le odi the ebb heel the bet eatuadwirwor of if he seal Ow You esplaents- Sea tlMh Wog to la dre to obese of Ire whish • vie add b law wearren °sea as eloweittee NOM of the hews we Saturby. It was the were apselmat as there was at that siessat is on. of the paws le peat maw Lord RETIROUR said lte ties with regard te the details el the fire wa illiallas tiee old to have wasereed. THE ELECTORAL R OF' Tltif ilfriF SR- Bic B. Hall, Sir De Kr.13.411:` called &mstics es se t the - lotion retsina which stesentaseat had laid ea the l7a so: plasmas' of the sew HANES Bill. Sir G. GREY said the Maras bad beea tarnished by the registrar-general, but the matter sheeld be ittqsked iato. THE BOROUGH OF HARWICH. _ _ Sir DE 1..1 - US.. : lvaiiltiereiwcr - c7rumoureihat a new writ wu about to be mooed for Harwich. He begged to ask the hon. gentlemen the member for North Lee: whether it wu the use ? and it le, he hoped notice would be given. No answer wu rearmed ; and The hon. and gallant member then gave notice that he would to-morrow (this day) mese that no writ ADAM be soared for the borough of Harwich wittiest dee notice being given. TILE MILITIA DILL. _ . Oa the motion I..l.7sCingi7tc; the orders of the day, Lord J. RUSSELL moved that the foilowiag paragraph from the speech from the throe* be and it was accord ingly read by the eke& at the table : *. I have ordered esti mates of the expenses of the earnest year to be laid brims you. I rely with confidence mi year loyally mail aid to make adequate provi►ios fir dot rablit 11111M0111. WINES any increase has been mad* la dog estimate' of the present over the past year, such ozpiomations will be given as will, I tram, satisfy pm that such imormos is mmdiftnt with a steady adherence to a pacific palsy, and with the dictates of a wise economy." Lord J. RUSSELL then neved dist do house do go into committee. Mr. HUME said that helm* the efeekalt loft the chair 1 he wished to ask the noble hid whit 111111 to be Gene in sommittec. Ile objected to the ga s of the which would only be ilistiselig the the country. He wished to know what bre awned de year to cause each a step, and what raw the gereornmeni had for taking such an important step ? He, political eco nomist as he was, would be sorry . to give any guarantee against so much evil as would ante from the disturbance of the quiet habits or the people by a mossurie so unjust. He thought the noble lord ought to state the grounds on which this course w.ie adopted now and not last year, or for so many years. Lord. RUSSELL said he bad moved for a committee of the whole house to amend the law reliting to the mi litia, and be thought that course more convenient, as hen. members would then he at liberty to put any questions they wished. (Hear, hear.) Mr. REYNOLDS inquired if the motion was to extend only to England, or to include the United Kingdom ? Lord J. RUSSELL said he would give • lull explana tion in committee. The house then went into ennunittee ; Mr. Bernal aUm their. - - - - 1;4 JOHN RUSSELL (who was molt imperially beard) said—la the year 18411, I made a states:eat 011 the house, with menet to tie deisame of the tawny, and I. that 'utmost I said that I devoid it desirable to dam the founded's Si a penmen militla fens, whist' mW be called into active service la ems el ea invasion of this country. Cafortanately, that ewes, an atlases re lating to the military and naval ham we awned with propositions involvtas an thermos Si Inatisa whisk were not palatable to the house and the cewatry, sad she poen meat did not persevere with them. I now renew that propo sition, with the hope that the house and the country will ea tertaia the same dinv, that it would be wise to nada It • peramamakesoof Wheal say that 'Mould be win to establish • permaaan her of *lin, I vie am ides* to depart from the usaranee amtehad is her Majesty's speak that our relation with fords* powers were meat friendly, ' and that there is nothing apparently at head which le W edded", dieted then At the same t did that row moseare dean be taken for the debase Si. mintry plead is • pains like this, to secure it (rasa the danger of war. Is de that place, there may be agile SIMS 1311 our peasessions d : err ea our own country itsstG Neat, it is possible there may be disputes aid= to rights of, sir minions with regard to Wens sit*.ms Si die sentry. Is the third_ plan we are bese a a s 4 by nada with several comehiss to inked them if they are attacked. (No, no.) We an Monad Ise Instant to defend Portend treat snake who may attack her, sad this obligatka was annul by the Inn is 1826, when Mr. C= o til en the Muse to Sale that treaty. Is the lard me are, sail have hen Ste men them a many, with the gemmed system Si lamms, and ia IMO tarthorial diseateut who se be adepts& by say power eekehe.d to disturb the balm* d power, al. =rost ss isay set lead to war, yet it wraps be a arrest ot to this merry, lad may had to esahmasse sad aspirins "dish may Mg la war. These sea si ree. seek sad vaissamaitelly try me essay, which lead as se hiller ties tee see sal ehamalme sats from Pea there is swam minima white Si late year bleu bra se mach the Mph diermalea is books, ta pargelste, seaversalisa, mei sewepepsee, bere sad ea the OW side of the Chmad. thet it is umeasiary it. er to Erre spa it ea to de awe dies mattes it. Wass she iewira et mem asvipsies,this wimetry enact Used to be so sad ar it • was demerly, whoa as meaty mast have had the esamandi site Channel, besides beam beamed by the whirl sad the weedisy la order either No reads or Meek this worry. The shrew which have been made by soma arleadsa lave bra very pest, sad to what resat it would operate la the mss of war no , see am safely predict; but it es obvious that a forte in ning this sentry has ao la7a u tte tik asme dideultiss to 11411104111 with at invaders bad . ills imp of siesamslssess we rust ample the whir is solver sally seliastriedesd e est the emery is arse to the main tennis se hap rNt sky mailliatals, mil that it has never bees able maw way gorammet t mire the adieus o f lugs milifitary amatildreasee. ersi rat the millary new blislariat of this Is tar below thee Si ether samiels• Bat if this is armee, it is dm to be earlissed the Is brass times, hese the Brea Yaws Wm Se the het perm it Me bra reared wise as well as asestita timid te fsistaia • Meg of sailer to am as a warm to U. resales army, sad to Frio a umber of amt ludas& to ems i/11l that pawn. As thiaee sew Mai, sod he army year we bare ass ambelete allilleheas. That is • SO** to whisk I shall mew call alhaties. I shill say but a few words with regard to ear military force. Oa the subject of oar naval force I slid are so obseevadems, as I disk it will be better that my eight lea. /ANA Oa Filet Ind of the Admiralty, shrli stale his views whoa he mime to briag forward the naval manna With reepsat Mar military three, len ealy say thud the addition we prepese to the regular army will mann to don 4)1111 ease of the Use sad 1,000 of beiss i er Ls than the number we have en de Man anasened on the serer header. It Masers& that I should state la the feat pleat what Is the goalosi mil* we have held with se gad M ar military twee lathe - eatet (is we amilmened) --ask Is the amt pros, the vkar which the oommeader in-eldet eseselaiss with owed to ear peer slam Ivrea With moped le Ow = e s: we bre for mai Imo puma the play et OW selesim taal.perelpily thentelves tar their esly w a very Vi e *pier germ M um s IMO better, ia ablag a smarm issue la thealsahmeopiesethest beta prises tbm:a hap amber et assa emit be sawed la a ism trie, mem than to disperse thaw err the esessirb en Is be paw. With regard to the wear pestre. the Comarmise in-Chat sod the Ilitraeweeeetel of the Ori , use bre fee NM time dieted their attention to the improved new whisk been berm ismeated, sash r readmer with • raw rape thee those Illemmly red in thehddeb sway ; sad ban deo radiassi die widen Si Wrap She ars to the eel stembraiter lapides bars be mails lase lbws ltgen• aid bowie steams have bees applased is air te sheer esell asidate me wadi prove bed ea series ; end doe le emeliir the audiss et the wet& of dm bell they gash! wry, sad the prise at the ediller la the ass et wed • wan All din dings have bra or =MM. sad she Erie duke at the bead or the 2111117, bee bees vearries la directing his atleallea to herpes that Wilkey bees which we have, lets the lashed she. Sielleisssy. (Hoar, hear.) I an same des inestin Si do militia. ta d we have had to sem dim to the Isd pier whether it would la ad. dear adebilit sash • fame, sa the gin ef the di malls. er wliZir It would wet be better to adopt plas Si • mill*. With rapid _be the antis melt wee eassdlased Is Its bolt wee, it diatom' listle es • hese whit sepal So layelier alsiglitme and= ham the make WSJ j bee the goverarams was trees sealing It set et the esestry. It we thes esieblidi nib • •hese raid be ors that Is was • permanent bares; sad if it was reedistail to servile he the - United ILlogim it would be sateen to hearnea war wither, _lns; I propose is that Awe shall lie ady • Imitilunise. that the militia shell be wa. pined pareally esb ia thdr ova sparks (so we mdse. steed), sal ailed sat only *a a mei parties at tbe year. It app. ses Se sae Oat at Ms beeddeg eat of a war an ist =isibees, sash se I has, mvailsaal, would take a sew Yoe se alter la wader avaless; sad whim we esarlier that sere et me perevalms alseed, wish se Kilts sal elbseller, and other piers I sesatisa, word ei se brew of Ammo It wadi be eatlble M Ina a her at solider adeiless to air ea ta Bseditaad (es wo wedeseevoi the amble lend, bat at this put et Ide "rob be spells la se Iwo • leas et miss thud saly pap Mal sealisess meshed ihe lOW yes bale hems ess. slissable ameissr et me, orgy tedesi, throws weal be hotedistely ssmbaMs, mad la • eerier dos they wield be preset ea ear rest, ready IS coley lamelea, Wham at the er time required the 11101411111 ot reweitieg was OM ow. 00 1 11 so anniamA r , is die ed swelememotepair taw When that was der, this WM* id& sorra to Irak ltemsart at all siesta be mimed se dm UMW sad mild were Si their ems wand.. I •Dl art slate the seem et the Mel millizzle woe ereldidied UK old stilbw The keel Willa we banded 0: %IL 1 Mlle inemer en the waft IS was a vary las/ _mil • very hey poser ma = Messaableill. imp la teer, They were mel pram balms it sad 10 i arid 1% . 1111111 sommsaisi by pumas stead= end astbselty. to LlP=bre to swim se htse Is larger • Amp. we diet piss with Biped to the ethers. WM re. meet to dm album. we that Smi.thirde shall be Mlby thalami het tholes' Ydsiker t ilisi se.ddri Oahe aim aims shall be weaned by the mown. It memoir se that it was so have u s et ammo ageism warp the Aegis, sag we *Ma MOM 41106111 eery be made amilebh he the Air mg 11/44111 be slimed re it the isstrojea sr. et die ranee ',pureed by tie Levi Lieressed. We pre lam likewise, ild the Lori Llsralmsal Anil net be es. THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EitNiNGi ,by tity rwlikdotaillakimmt.6 - 66 illiptia vs, aid dmkt 1s 6k• whammy peremm; ' 41- __ _ u""6""thasallturrmomms" kt L Az as -1104 ' of the "And t. ths _____ _ sons so ' • t of land. Si does Mt restdislailto tin lhossisary i I;i tiro a fa doubt am ir of the d o D ams 12: 1 tr umil iembi bet Fes painted. It Is my dminahis that theemsm of Z 11161114 title -*eke pet is the. ...a W feeel Milan bet it le alp • • :L. AM should . be thi ere wither this he leg impesiL Whoa these origin ." anes Weis Mom/ aim sus • my peat *lousy of Om mown. Thew wZIC6 melee, to prommt the Beam infringing set the of the peer% sad it wee posed that the spline of ippeisting - perms of a e plpEtho ettehmemd e rr fibs militia woad alwa;elleii; • 110 the esnatey * say parr egssupt of re het sew, is rise bps Muer el WI - pormy le es Icily seem* tha t, rows nose is Ism Maly Ms that of ea eras of the seem by mom d a star- ing army to ropers the liberties of the peps Now, with regard to tin mss—when, Is hat. we led the greet' diffienity—wlt esposssumsellendsm heat thophin formerly submitted. imilirthed all men m therisalts. lal = a to 10 pars of age: T a tat ie reensidemehis megin of pus ; and QM proem et mama mud to every hoseirM, requiring the hem oath hem beider of the amber of persons i r n 4l C Immettbstwom then ewes was, in limo% a very leag end s very eery moor. Ire essesiver sew, that it would be at' the ems limo a diminution SI NM and • great relief to large portions of thers: a this country if, taking the amber that wo waffilsisnt, wo took them', within restricted pith _ • pospss% therefore, for the int per thee the epee st whir perm be be eubjeet to fibs for tie bid Mir mbar be hem 10 to 23 years of we. And in sidisermed pees we propose that Aiwa be they plena My Ism We to 21 yaws of me. It is sap p ed OM the be say priehles, from 20 to 23. vitrog mrillthos the somber is be biased for, wield give • Mee et gent 10,418 amen; sod roe la years the number to be maenad h.. proem =r u g sad 21, weed MINIMIM OS @sassily 90,000. That is our esti mate. Is them men I du not think it would he memory to meet ie the rem formely senpiord. I be lieve that with the endennes et re mess if irt year we should know seremeely easel* the amber of perms in melt county and In ear ears mod the slumber of per sons who would be liable Is the %swift ; sad I think it would be sufficient to issue • Miss respriag all such per sons to present themeahosat • MatedßiaM on a certain day. That, however, is a pet of the under the bill which requires very ism essidasthisa ; and at pest I will not enter farther ire the deers et it. But it Ms seem to me that the some I peeper would be • mere speedy course than that formerly tried, and a course whisk we sun take is sesrequenes of thear knowledge of which et we in pee ries respeatiag every ped by err the errs s• Mee 141. think t ea t the range in the ogee le be liabia—making the er hem 10 to 23 ad hem MI to 21, instead of from 18 to n—thonld give ratio. Wm When this poem arteries the amen has been =, It Is ;merest that by the eider of the lord s! aseli sementy, there Mad he &subdivision of the taco ;f sell it ie isiMseselsbi INS seek rim should Ism esebdiridos. The ilepsty-lioniessat ethe runty, the megistastes of the = lev eed the soirees% or nee other slim et the heal wield be present when these era wee to be balloted . It is proposed that one- fifth shoal be taken i and that 10 per cent. of those remaining shield be taken se • rearm for the Slim up of all vacancies in the mollith. There were be messes ham carving from various cams, as under the Leal Militia Act and the Militia Act, and there would be a ?Meilen of men who, upon examination, W revs pelt ter the genies ; and those who belonged to the Mem dem pie mt. would be called on to supply the &dithers I Meld say also, however, that it is pro posed that any men between the ere of twenty and thirty may volunteer to serve in the local militia, and that in es far as those volunteers supply the requisite saialmes, so Eimer other persons will be balloted for. lido poem likewise that these volunteers to the lead mitfe serve for one year less then the heal militia io pascal. The period proposed for the service of the local IMINSIS is four years. But it is proposed that they might, by SR ardor in council, be required to ern for Is menthe impart sad again, in case parliament, by an adds.. Is the omen, &cold require • still farther serviee, that • further peeled of six months Shedd be &hied ; making twelvemonths &norther in the smut of dupe to the country. I nem moo to the remise how them mu are to be teethed to the me of arm. It is pe=d that they Meld be Maid Me bananas is the ohl MO thes reel' be marbled together hr 14 T IM dip lis the Met per, mei he 14 dme ims eh the subsequent ICAit im s.esempisted that erre theM rye et am shield peamerily be censseedios. The mth Mgr berried he • weak, and then, if it wee wastamy Ike me aperift la the amentry, at fee any ether ewrs, thelitheedsord p bpi Ile their hosts, and amemble he es Essisishig days' Ommising, at another period. That Is the Mast at pair pored with regard to a merve dear Mir her isms merle very efficient I moon the hem of the lemmienerm. It Is like wise peophod that three inner' drill and training should most as Ulf • dare pay. When mum tralaing they would be pad the ems pay as the sham of the be may, ma they wield. of rues Ming that Me be sub- Pet to the priphime of dm Xelley het. I have ant to eitsto the NM* to white those men mold bo applied. I sonsmive OM is ems it sup MM etinvides they reed he ee .. nay e, sod they Omer le niesmhed deem le nay part et the mery whose their monism might be ; sad I thiek that Om their aid wield be of the very ✓eser value is erring • very mil army to perm a Mrs series But with respect to the training which they mead have to undergo, I Mien that, with the al lowance of training I have restiseed, they would be in a vary short time altar the SISSIMMIee meet of hostilities in a my oiliest state of line. Everpme beams with regard to roe peat battle t by the amiss of this army, the. s eissiderelde dieN of the troops bad sever here. bow fa ulna Mt m ooned extremely little training. I ems next to what would be the immediate expense of this hem. It is commekted that in tho muse of this yew cot man this 30,000 would be Mined is the maser I Mae deseribed. It might be made Meediately water be ea oinergesey. But that is W amber we ; sad we estimate that the expense et et the is the lest proA s s i t i the eisthiag, kitefati la the field la musing, with the ewer et the ohms would be meemewhit mar MOM It would be right, I believ tsbe s temorrimet hew aset thee hat, because there sq be herr ambers ailed est. Bet re ember seteely mar aeries the Mayer would set sessest te iss theo Mr ; Mis tbe sent there err be W; sat in the ant prefer thee ober 1110,000. TM, it, is the Mit le whir the hamphenid be euried. Iles deems Maser be a serer the the asmideratio& of the meth ond of the pmetimmest ; mad the rem, there is no doubt, might he esmasil to woo ; and that again to • still pores nosier. hest then. is the statement of re plea of a reel mar whir we have se ir to propose. It Melees et mess a pose mid est I Mk et this sage este to give the hem o; a Ohs Mem her Mderey's govermest sre I thengi ssal if la right Ms ley behre perment. I believe mysel4 thst the peer et this sessay wr gladly Mop the re et snob st hose as ambrosial, la the purples el assuring the mall offilmesetatry - I shod& .rim OM th ere is a prevision lift respect to contain Pare where there may be • imp lass of polio It4 pe s =rood that that km et be end Mcleod searliag C liN the septletions the heel V ies iki out irommob me - Mee would be a tree et this bled, there weer be ea nampliss Mohr te re memben of seek a fora with es the berths he the had Mar It is that whers eirs miontetrt tam be bona itmetelea mb ig: ems, emir to the Ferro of the law sew 4 hat home ahead s, be emir es • Me et Mir. sad, is es he. the NM militia would set bee. renal Is the MIAMI whir Morro would be sesemeary. Sir, this Megetere, is he sestmerat I hare had to mike to the be end which I have in a billt est when that bill is hid bare r, the Mee will be beer Ms to judge of the whisk it writ be wise Is reps Per my ass pet I Meld be quits ware, r the precliess et the bat sail the Mrs et the bill are matters spen Miele rem is s misty et giros le here • Mr ememillee fee th s eimese ot essidlidig - hems preri ekes, semi either te ads the bill erre to the peeress the pesser Lad Mill Ast, se te eilep any tearer ha rat sea metelly be sirs I ens. hewers =1 hot • my Meg eirriecles that me twee et this hied le memery; est whitlow er re ressiss al = mass male thereafter efrebere, It will be a babe dist I bays piper es this hem to hatmearties et s hues he the Mbar et this essaley. seMe lerm . sub MI *der thirement 'Mt menel WS my M g :arti e r es "ae r i al' reed the emir by Mr. Ba Led l . ItIIMILL rem seeks mad amid—This is a bit he MOM est Itelos True is rear he embril. With respells liabrail, we do est pepees • Ised Mier Xs ILITIIOLDB supped that he weer sadder A. the .al. hen had sow erwered his (Ms lepable, r e etty esil meat lsm ie w w es i ala s mo r how s to e isterpor: t he ream. lebtai less the gemmed pies wee le be rgendiel m • Mee sr ett Mr (Loot bishboor4 he ea Wren's be wad not amp the ormlits of Irani es a meprest. (Cos tinsel m l retell If r e Gomm% et the sere lemi were .ae Ben fog he rebellyuregi err • I;e4 gies milt In L i mgeoli—oni ke were still b=r all& ea Ire- TlellW aill tratiZOth Indmaill Om pen was, thieshee (milord re hes. member), se mosgimese es re Jerry et that dese ; sad h a d i catly repelled Or the sore Mal bed seer ear • lk I. I'AXIXOTOM bear that the amble ke . brim the Moisjimeist Mass meld Mlle one pert am sty. amble lord bed set Milled hew the Mee wee The te be Mileibeted WM lies mom, with moped to the melee Lard J. RtifiSELL—ln esnotios They am set te be tikes ge of Mk owe sertime welherisemates srana. sloop eases of Mier el tulles or et liminest rlitillE bad heard the etalessot M the Nib lord a ...mint Bewen Melly agree gap Be was se earnest le his desire OM trews toy res MO risk all My Mb else; bet, Jut* were is asps lee wee he having ssir pepalse lames. map pers the extras Moe, WA NI mil ties marl the Mese oshe seer, spier th e psissiple indeed, and on the seder Ls obisi4 4 the Memo et • local Mar The mi. . • . Ywwas ab al and ween-oet Inwodient. was Eilla 10 tor the !Imagoes el` availing dm Pada' * NOIR is peasessiese if UM great • arms au& course which was fecerrly taken K are -g having the =Side faros from under ihis condo! deb* mown, and placing It under the • tae#setpl of a sew mitt,, et the Home of Conameas, 7ediMtad tM*Moil which had existed between the crown end the pediment, and out of which sprung the very ids• of sash • hem at ▪ That *dorm had sow cowed; and no one within these wells - would have any jealousy of ant pewees her Majesty might matey us the excenewe Miser WSW sent try ; for the crown, li ke every ladivideal In th e nodes, would he lead by the. roles whisk the Mend &aim laid down. Why, then, were dry to revert back to a system et war premeds& whisk no longer wee necemary ? This ealiense would Isie • tee bearing meet on. diIIOINS who mai be dsated into the The aurvias wadi ho etwayelawy • and thus ppesesppiiaa ..2 :111, sued ail awl alma Ms to as would be Ins genteel haw Help walliany emnpations, to tMalirr awn peat injury, and to worm no peduntional pur ger whammy. The proposition Whisk he IMAM MAMA to Ow beam way whether, with so lame a military hi" wad with so large a naval fans, they would mivaatatt in consenting to the plan prepeended by the Oldie lord. An exposes of 200,0001. was, we doubt, a titer ; but they were not to esuskler this plea in simply to the expense. It wan a plan full of said evil. The evil would fall altogether on the gmearer classes. Morally and politically speaking, the plea was injudicious. But apart from the princi ple of the bill, ho objected to the details. Thu men te b. selected between 20 and 23 years of age. Now, why was this margin fixed upon arbitrarily ? Why were men between 2.1 and 30 to be exempt ? It wee an obvious in jostler, and utterly indefensible. Certaial3r,they were ruining dike et present. They had 10 shipela the Terns to amidst the seminneent of Portage). They bed from 20 to SO ships in dis Mediterranean to keep the lonian Islands in slavery end in subjugation. They had 23 ships ea the °oast of Atrial for the purpose of plundering the natives, and, by way of freak, of puNeg down erne men, mid putting up smother chief. Tb.. they had an menristees OM . It was idled a small army. Bud the estimates that they supplied clothing to 185,000 troops, either is arms, or ready eta moment's notice to take arms ; and why was this vest twee (and it wee quite exclusive of our sailers) net eat- Mnt ? He would tako the sense of the house on the nutter. (dear, hear.) Col. THOMPSON said that, from all the information he had collected, he inferred that the country generally . would rejoice at finding the government doing something in this matter of national defence. What would that heavenly if the French made a movement on Belgians ? They would know tweiorrow if government had received say inhumation of that kind. Ho only mentioned this by way of illustration, to show the country that there was the greatest necessity for taking precautions in time, and that the country ought feel gniteful to the liable lord for all and everything lashed done in that direction. -- Colonel iiiirifoiir was gla 1 that the wide lord had had the moral courage to state that some preparations were requisite to resist invasion. Sir H. VERNEY defended the military from the aaper ' sions which had been cast upon them. He did not this* that a force collected and disciplined in the mode proposed by the noble lord could be made etficietat. Mr. M. O'CONNELL trusted the noble lord would re consider the question so far u regarded Ireland. Mr. COBDEN said he had no hesitation in say ' ing that the English people would pay an ample in surance for their liberties and their lives and their property. The question, however, was not whether they would pay for en insurance or not, but whether they already paid enaugh insurance. The question was whether a man, having an insurance in the Royal Exchange, required en insurance in the Phomix as well. He had contended, in the country as well as in that house, that they could defend themselves with the force they already possessed. The question was not whether they were to defend themselves from unjust aggression, but whether they already paid suf ficient fur that parpere. And that brought him at once to the question, what did they vote for their navy? Why, it wee going probably too far back for an argument, but since the last war they had voted 200 millions for their navy. But take ten years, which was the life of a ship—during the last ten years they had spent in the wages of their artificers in the dock an d 8,800,000., and dunnerthe same ten years, 13,400,0001. for materials used in the construction and repairs of ships, and three millions more for improvements in the dockyards. He maintained that we were abundantly insured, and what did they do with the vessels that they built at such a cost ? They heard of • fear of inva sion. Were the ships here to protect them against ea enemy ? Were were they ? Why, they bad a squadron In the 'higus, but that, he was told, was ordered home. Another squadron was in the Mediterranean. Now, Ise would read to the people of England, who were to be frightened out of their wits that some attack was to be made on them, • list of the ships in the Mediterranean. There was the Albion, 90, the Superb, 80 ; the Trafalgar, 120; the Vengeance, 84 ; the Bellerophon, 78 ; and the Queen, 110 ; besides a dozen of smaller vesiels. And while they had all this force in the Mediterranean, es if to show the utter mockery of the cry of invasion, last week the government ordered the Britannia, 120 gun ship, to go and station herself at Malta. Was it the conduct of rational people to send these ships 1 200 miles away and then to raise • cry of invasion and come to that house to ask the people to leave their daily avocations to go out to be armed and drilled ? But he would not do the government or the Admiralty the injustice to say that we had no ships at home. These 23 millions spent in ten years had not all been wasted. We were not going to have our shores ra vaged by buccaneers. We had at Sheerness—the London, 92; the Monarch, 84; and the Waterloo, 120; at Chatham, the Boecawen, 120; at Devonport, the Impregnable, 104, and the St. George, 120 ; at Chatham, the S aturn, 72; and in commission at Portsmouth, the Victory (guard-ship), 110; the Rodney, 92; the Excellent, 46; the Neptune, 120 ; at Cluithiun, the F*lird, 42. Here were ten line-of-battle ships, but beyond this we had line-of-battle ships lying at distant essiem—is the West Indies and in the East Indies ; and be mired anybody in the world of what peesible use a line-ofhatde ship eareM be at Jamaica ? They had soother In the West Lam and he challenged them te thew, he • amber it OW instance in which • Pius-M-hattle ship is either the last Indies or the West Indies bed been brought fate aides hr any purpose whatever. They had heard st pirates Is the East Indies, and they had hal hepay heall-marry fer alleged pirates destroyed, but se lisoeibaMie ship had bees brought into use against them* far this ewes, that a Ilse of-battle ship serfs set hlliew the. up riven and creel a. Therefore, to keep them liseof. MEL ships at Hong Hoag se Jamaica, while they were shrill at their ewe coasts, ap. peered te be the greatest weals el the mom ef defame that Led possibly be imeshest. The swiftest was, that we were eo near Freelle, that we ware ia disapir of being in vaded by Freud' plimple. But our eakiiies were some thousands of miles elf Frame, and there meld be no fear that the French were ping ea a bmeaseering expedition against them. The Willie argument yew that we were ia danger for; our: sus ism. This fret thing they most he to satisfy him Si het wee te erdsrbeste them large which were sew eamparadvely Idle wad emiese Is= say lithe pee* at essembwies tbeespodusse et the last war, eller mil deseelles hem every meshy they si.bre la wife, bevies _mile Wag -semi.enweeessea by that war hist their ems hot a if the el England should ever allow esygeresemest tering acontinental war mein by 'softie 'seeing% soldier In the matinent they would richly dames Ollthalli Unk empt's. Now, the measure that they had haters Mas t to show est the was one that would he =eke, but wadi be less unpopidar with the rich that the peer, because the rick mad pay for their esbetitates, bat the poor could set. He heal no doubt whatever, that before this dimamies was breeght to a dem there Weald he de copublic meethip threagheet the seastry, s hey lniekli tled 1848 egoist memere. Se immeiabend that In that in that peer, at Binsiegbasa, them was great hostility to it, and he taught das am". wha t were they aillbei oaths estuary to de ? were requiring a mere truth= of the aemeounty to be away from their berieres sad pagesits, to take yea themselves the dation Meaidlem le be pat osier merehl law. He said If ftleateil IMEN piens le be Gelled out and used as =T'pay them m et ht they did, and pay them Übe -7thear, hear to call out a weather mi asmic* perhaps who seemed 4es a day, or to call one a men who marked m a men shop, and who esald with filerelty supper& Ma lamil s oust le take md drill him std Yes give • sleMleg • we meet femme injustice. Dui he estuesed M thea ear any was oar natimel gm& Wes. We diendeat emirs to repel any lava-his ism ear shame if the anarerses vaLaestalised woo es& astir apt up and prepedy of. We bad se net ow te deed an invades of am dam by a few bet- gash er by a hrge stay. We paid hr ear seat eluding its share et the mimes. seatjh i th a t k • year._ Melodies the Peet-eMse et ser vice. That was twice as mash as was by France ; three tames as much as wee paid by Amain. And why did we pay this ellepeopagliesole esteem ? It was becausethat, het, Wag ea Mad, seastey required OM rder fa peemedes dies sem maple did. bspod the leek lard wield give the sertley wawa.- heft of hnakee lee upon the mews hehre he it epos Um dee el the home t he be CHr. Cob believedd that the hie ef invade. was sow much less &ilsgthan it was a sheet time previewe If the sable al weski only nor • short delay to *lame, he would be mobil quietly te withiesw Mimeos/are, and thus to avoid the demendieleg Ash AML the mabedyisg of the militia could set hi Pte_ama t erar meld el l eass ei ej Trews. gbaMimi an that aide et II 1 1= 4 .114 be set t hilisties that her X4eiwe ipienreeet at bee male • erepeeitise Ma that which Memel the gabfest of the retest Meespiee. tatiehelles, however, was not foasideil epos eery isseporer ages my opiates that there was eir hat there was an t eeldiet at peresst le wrieteh amid evestry te the hew of war. (Chem) Est T w aeble MIMI j e an heed ef the 110.6111111.11, law that le keg age ee the ls4s he (Lord Paimerates) ham the Ilhartg ef Is the gomeamest 1621sles, that asd wit4 a lle Mem ileastry, it wee sr at t= able, OM NSW she emesere of Magid be miss as that villa wee the diMbeet elf meat (How, hear.) He had at melees *Mt reseered C 11 :1 1 - bat there had always hem diatraffile MIA hail it feces being acted epee; bet he lee glad Ertirasble Iced was at last peeping he mew' to the Weft MEW Nissan for the defense of fle immetay. Hon. mama might say that they crested we sheik -set M oshe the country in continental warfare, sr ink up ear wives is eciatiaental quarrels; but, as the aside lord had truly sal for it amid tong gainsaid, we had engage ment,. solos of theta of standing, that might involve Win dispitess that might ea the continent, and we bed poll interests beyond the limits of our shores. (Hear. hese. • Them were 'bengal which might take place in Beirepe it would not be for the safety of thecoun trylalMMO, Mend quietly by. We had interests, and fremmene, mattered all over the surface of the globe, mid there was no esualry in the world in which we had net pagerty ea assaussee, and in which questions in vol vhsg danger might set Brim. They had had an instance of this during the adminiebraties et the lets Sir lt. Peel, when • rupture was between between this country and . r.... 5. psis, ere post national interest, but upon rAM ear algaily. _ (Hear, hear.) But hon. gen tlemen' as if tie - *sly danger of rupture was with our immediate amighboute in France ; but we ought to re member that Frew* was not the only foreir country t which t,t r am" a tihr end 4 shonutls bece b m a e ar involved ray a in a s we. with any power, we could not tell how far the Pedals, of other states might take them, and in what difli• malties we might not and ourselves placed. (Hear, hear.) But it was said that oar position was insular, and that we had a fleet which was sufficient for our defence. While, however, our insular position in some respects constituted our defence, it was at the same time our weakuess and our danger. A continental country was inaccessible except by certain known roads, and they could be guarded. Fortresses could be built to stop up all such approsehee, hut in our case, our shores were open to our fors throughout the vast circumference of the island; and it was impossible to say at what point an invading force might not endeavour to effect a landing. (Hear, hear.) Thu Channel which divided us from our immediate neighbours was narrow, and though the other seas which surrounded UP were wider, yet • few hours would suffice to convey troops from France, and a few days from more distant countries to any part of our coast. (Hear, hear.) He (Lord Palmerston) believed that our navy was in a satisfactory state—as it ought to be con eiderng the expense which had been incurred during the last few years—he believed that our navy was as efficient as it had ever been at any period of our history. Nay, ho believed that it was even more e ffi c i en t , lie believed, too, that we had a great amount of valuable stores, and • great number of ships in ordinary, but theft stores might be -burnt, and those ships de stroyed ; and here he must a little complain of the exagge ration which lied been used relative to our naval forces in reckoning such ships as the Excellent, which was only used for target practice. The Victory. ton, wee known to be only a guardship lying in Portsmouth harbour, and unfit for service. (Hear, hear.) But efficient as our navy might be, it would be madams to rely upon it entirely and solely for the defence of our country. (Hear, hear.) It would be perfectly impossible for any navy, however active, visi. lant, and numerous , to prevent the landing of a hostile force 1 during any short interval in which it might be absent. It was therefore necessary that we should have a land force— armed men to resist armed men—but as to fortifications, it was useless to think of fortifying anything but the arse nals, the dockyards, sad other points of vital importance. (Hear, hear.) There was no fertifieation like brave men, armed, disciplined, and ready to meet an enemy; and such fortifications the hearts and arms of Englishmen would ever supply. (Cheers.) lint if it were necessary thus to have an armed force, to meet any unfortunate possibility of inva sion, he trusted that it would never be a probability, and the probability always be lees in proportion as we were ready to meet it ; for there was nothing that so much tempted aggression as weakness, and incapacity to resist it, especially when to that weakness and incapacity were added enormous wealth and great political temptations. But if it were necessary, as he (the noble lord) thought it wee, that this country should have a force capable of defending our homes against an invading enemy, and to protect this country from the incalculable calamities of even a few utanths occupation by • foreign toe—why then something like the mode proposed by the noble lord seemed to him (Lord Palmerston) hest adapted to meet the case. (Hear.) It was mighty well for persons in this country who were ignarnnt of the horrors of invasion—oh! it was mighty well for such to talk about the hardship of taking men from their homes and teaching them to defend themselves, their families, and their country. (Hear.) Happily the people of this country did not know how great were the calamities of war ; but those gentlemen who had served abroad, and who knew what they were, and those who had even read the accounts of those who had seen the effects of war in fo- reign countries, would admit that no greater calamity could betel this nation than that a land force should not be kept up of sufficient magnitude to deter other posers train making as attempt upon our shores. (Cheers.) The questim then was, should we have a regular army sufficient for the pur pose? lie (Lord Palmerston) said co. He was satisfied that the habits and feelings of the country would not per mit of such an amount of the regular force. Whet then could they do, but to follow that emir c which every other country had pursued, namely, to raises force which should form the germ of an army—trained and organised to a certain degree, and disciplined, in the time of peace, ready when war should break out to take the place of a regular army. The citizens of the United States of America did not complain of the hardship of learning the use ofarms for the defence of their country. On the contrary-, he believed there were a million militia men in the United States, The countries of Germany—they did not feel the hardship. In Prussia there was the land...chit, and in Austria there was also a similar force for the national defence. In France, too, there was the national guard—though that had been disbanded for tho present. It was in fact only this country which had of late set the example of disconti nuing this kind of force; and there was no country which hod such cam-mous wealth, and which was so defi cient in the means of defending itself. (Hear, hear.) What seemed to be the best mode of meeting this need was, that the proposed force should be assembled for a short time in each year, to leant the use of arms and to practise those movements without which armed men were a mob, and not an army. (Hear, hear.) The militia was • sort of force which we had had for nearly two centuries; but he did not understand the distinction which the noble lord appeared to draw between the regular and the local militia. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord said that the regular militia were like the army. When it was embodied, it was cer tainly like the regular army ; but a militia in time of was a body formed by ballet or by substitute. peacehi liberty of serving in tho regular militia by substitute, however, was not allowed in the local militia ; but *stone drawn were compelled to serve in person, mhos pleaded certain grounds of exemption. The regular militia, which was the old constitutional torte of the esuatry, was armed and equipped and trained for •=days, or a less period in each year ; so that in etn ape after the war had broken out they could seems* and joie the regular army in the defence of the country. Moreover, the regular militia being raised both in Great Britain and Ireland was liable to serve in any part of the whole United Kingdom; and, really, he must say that he was eessehhed le and in any plan of defence that Inland AGM be left se entirely without protection as in the noble heed's. (Hear, hear.) The local militia was con fined seasilleally to England—was this because the noble lard doubted t allegiance of the Irish people ? (Hear, hear.) Foe his own pert be was ready to pledge his exist ease that any Indiums who should be called oat and enrolled, end who should Ms the oath of all e would be i z a dr ty to lay down his, life rather than be guilty of dis- He (the noble he ma pomaded of the truth of their allegiame, mil their valour was certainly tee well hams to require 'sissies. (Cheers.) If, then, they were to haves militia (whisk he thought they ought to have), he thought that they Meld have the reenter militia, instead of sampan , the arrangement which the noble lord had explaimi that day. In conclusion he (the noble bird) could oay my that he was exceedingly glad the alerillit had beta besughe forward, bemuse it would in his tap leirma be the Mope* ani most elleetail defence the direst at lavaideu. (Hear, bear.) He would thee tie prepaid w r es sei 7LeNle ef teseiderable ins promisees; and he ventured le le the molar militia as the lens in whit& the mews should be carried. (Ghost Mr. F ai riVICLE rail the faselhe of adopting tho regular militia had heat ray sousidered, and the govern meat had felt oempelledi to adept the bead, in preference. The allowance of mbeeitetee had been found to be Medea by insuperable, dilleallies. A man who had served in Yorkshire might afterwards servo in liereataetsithee, end thus ease 6,000 or 6,000 men might misvalue the whole hose. Of course in time of war, whim all the dillerest regiments were called up, this oirkeeties did net spray, bat in time of peace the meet ineeememieat emelheles ed be the result of per =Befog the eutpleyment of iraMeMites. Besides, under the old mum the bailee wee se entendre that it would take weeks heave it mkt borne through, and it would take assedes before they mid enrol the am. Feemerly all bennen the ogee of IS and 46 wove Hebb, bat mew only elm hem 10 le 2s. The lesuershis mashers for the West Riding and for Modena had said hat they would mew vegularpoldiers i hue thin were some persons who, if them were two ohms blessed that which was actually adopted. Had Impasitise been to increase the make rummy they meld, ehisse Intro opposed it with all Mkt might. Mr. NIWDEGATI had hem opposed to the proposition made is ISIS fart the savelmout of the militia, but be now hit hexed es the raceme before them. 11r. Z. B. EOCHE said, if they did not extend this bill to keleari, it would be equivalent to giving notice to all foredo' Mims that Ireland was net to be trusted, and that it was the bast plose_to land ie. Lad I. 1.11=14 mid that this Mil meld sot leo applied to behead; but it did not fare that there was not to be a bill also for Ireland. Indeed, Ethers should be a bill for Scotland, there would also be MS ire Ireland, for there was not the slightest foundation far saying that Ireland was to be distrusted. Capt. HARRIS el the goverment proposal go wally, and that the ballet he the tailitaa might be made as he awareing Ike any. Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT weld that it was necessary to haw • body et ma in smarm, le he called as der the deism of the emery is case ist miesiessy. He doubted, however, the propriety of making the propseedi hese • Mal lesteed empanel use. liir O. GARY sold the Hideaki& harm a heal and a reseed Willa was, that * am was • &Moire sad the ether as elbeeive force. The maids ambedied at the elm el the lest tier wee of the latter elreassear, asill was esta %lied hr the pmeseaf set ire had the repislar army to . see .s the seem shed, wills the Isms now proposed was intended purely fee purposes of Mimi. After • hw observations from Mr. K. gamma, Mr. B. OSBORNE said that if a foreign army should land in Indeed, he would hal perfectly confident that the Irish pollee-6m meld give a very excellent account of it. After some remarks from Mr. TaaLAWNY and Mr. ALCOC,II Mr. HMI said a this was the result of panic, and the present Mem was maks ins than • conscription against one clam of prance—the Mee between 20 and 23. This they should was unfair ' for if such a force were n have a fair ballot fur ail persons between the ages of 24, and 46. and iwIRLLOS La w hi c h c aptain Scohitt, A r r. A m took some further diseasaion, M part, The resolution was agreed to, and the h ouse res umcd. IN CHANCERY RELIEF 1111,1, lit:ri Still TO ti c e motion for the second readi ng o f t hi s bill, peeling the extent of the Lord Chancellor's power wel suggested several questions l. the bill, and what he considered to be the compfc t er tlmTele phlioet y e i t3 0::1! , :1 1 C i l d T e 0 R . u - c N , E . f R t e a s k ;:a p i .i n y e ui d jeet and the details of the bill, which proposed, iiiste. e i of ". one uniform system of stamps. by Sir J. GltAlikhl reminded the house of the 'Stettin stances attending the appointment, last session, of mission, to which he and Mr. IL nley were joined, which was directed to report, among other things, u pon tore' of f ite. The commissioners had unanimously rep. o .t a d that no additional masters in Clumeerysliould be appen,t,d ; that the existingumaters should be eniploy s il hi winding op their busmen ; and that hereafter judges In eliainlwrs perform all fuuctions now performed Ly must t s, i n Chancery. Her Majesty had infirmed parliamtio th a t ado had directed bills to be prepared, 141a111,11 WI the reports of the commissioner; it was with surprise, fore, that he had heard that, in anuther place, the lord Chancellor, the head of the law, hail expressed great do art, whether that portion of the report should lie adopted, e L e h he (Sir James) thought was the keystone of all their r, au. mendations, and without which lie should be td, absolute despair of any effectual chaueery ~,form. The SOLICITOR.GENERAL sail the observario., the Lord Chancellor had been misunderstood. If ore in. pression bad got abroad that there had liven any delay o n the part of the government in giving instructions for th e preparation of a bill fur carrying into elf. et the recom mendations of the conimisooners, or any doubt or diffieuity (beyond the ordinary difficulties), it ails mint •Tr.alo vox. lie believed that the Lord Chancellor intend"! to when asked whether he had couc!usively made up hi. maul as to this recommendation in the report, that it woo et. tremely ineouvenieut, and he declined to declare that ho had made up his mind one way or the Gther, as to a 14 not before parliament. lie (the Solicitor-General) nail " doubt that the bill would embody the racommeniati,a ee the commissioners, and there would be 1111 delay in ; run paring it. Mr. HENLEY rejoiced to hear from the exponent Lord Chancellor's sentiment' in that house, that the .! in his lordship's mind related not to the subject-mntter, her to the means of eerrying it out. Sir G. GREY eimarined toe statement of the Soli.:!er• General, and The bill was then read a second time. DISFRANCHISEMENT OF s . r. ALBANS. Sir G. GREY, in musing for leave to bring in a disfranchise the borough of St. Albans, said it was ne. a, eionary that he should occupy much of the time of tie house in stating the grounds of that motiini. The lane,. inn aware that in conliequenee of uleortietions townie been thrown in the way of inquiry, an act was pealed last re•oasi by which three commissioners were appointed to take Lae donee in the borough, and that the commieduners had very extensive powers. lie most congratulate the house on the complete success of the inquiry. As the report had the hands of numbers far some time, be would not refer to the evidence. He would, however, remark that in the report it was stated that the cumber of chetore being 483, of that number 383 had been accustomed to take bribes ; and that the money expend at eizlit el,oems since 1631 amounted to 37,0001., of which 24,1;•001. ins 'pant in bribing. Polities, the commissioners soil, had no in fluence on the elections, the agents being ready to transfer their own services, as well as the votes whirl, they c.-old command, to any candidate. At the last eleezien foes t. sty to fifty voters received on one day sums vai ying from .to 81, and without bribery it was found iimeesifile to si.e.se for Alderman Carden the small mirority which !A usually voted on a particular tide. The cot:ui...le:a l " also stated that the system of bribery had so '..ng prevailed, and corruption was so widely extended, that the moral sense of the iuhaMtants had been deadened, and Cie, evinced no shame when convicted of bribe, y. In slier, the conviction must force itself on the mind of every on.. who read the report, that corruption to au estent almost un precedented had prevailed for a very great length time an St. Albans, and that the only cure that could be applied to a soil which had so de a raded the constituency was that which he now proposed, 'mutely, the disfranchisement of the borough. That was an event which parliament. no doubt, had in view at the time of the appointment of the commission, should the result turn out as it hail done; and therefore he presumed there would be no uppoition to the motion. lie should refrain from making any r.:nork on the notice given by the hon. and gallant moldier for Westminster, because he understood that lie did not intend to peen it. Sir DE LACY EVANS had placed a notice on the paper for moving as an amendment that Hartsa it, which we. ai. I deeply dyed as St. Alnans, should be Mehl led in the but as there were technical reasons against this course, he intended to move thnt no writ should issue for Ilarrikh without further notice. Mr. KEIL SEYMEIL said that if the inhabitants of Hers wick were not virtuous they were prudent, and no ease Ind , been proved against them. Mr. BACISHAIY (member for Harwich) declared his borough was immaculate, and had heeil vilified. o Mr. ROEBUCK said that there could be no doubt of the corruption of Harwich, but he vehemently denounced the system of nomination as equally corrupt with the system of bribery. After some remarks by Lord D. STUART, there were saki for Mr. Bell, who had also risen. Mr. BELL, after some hesitation, sail that he Irina rather meree what be had to say until the second reading. Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON demanded why Mr. Roe buck and the other purists of the Reform Club hail net I turned the areh.corrupter, Mr. Coppoek, out of that Cub. Mr. ROEBUCK, in reply, eulogised his own punt" regarded bribery at his elections, and declared that Mr. Coppoek would not dare to come near him on such an MCI. sion. Finally, be said that though a member of the lielorts Club, be never went there. Mr. SPOONER read portioas of Mr. Coppocles answers on the St Alban's inquiry, in order to fix government oith promoting the system of corruption, by giving patronage to that person. Sir G. GREY had no personal cognizance of the neaten referredthet o tnt in th oMrf h C is op a poc .er k t ' i s on a r wers, but saw no reason M doubt Mr. BELL, who was loudly called for, said that during the whole of this unfortunate transaction—(a laugh)—it had been Ina misfortune to have allowed Inman to be guided by the advice of certain parties, who had requested that be should abstain from taking any part in the proceed ings. In consequence, he had laboured tinder the Irk ight of un iucubits ; ho bad never had an opportunity ofcrpan iag or extenuating—(" hear, hear," and laughter)—any of the charges brought against him, and it had been supposed that he was either indifferent to them or unable to rifer anything in explanation. On the present occasion he was desirous of addressing a few words to the house, whin he was particularly requested not to do so—(loud laughter, and cries of " hear, hear") —but he had so often regretted not having earlier acted on his own liniment that he was determined not to be driven from his course again. (Ilea:, hear.) As this was the first time of addressing the house on the subject, he felt he ought to state that the reason why he hail been silent was that a judicial inquiry was pending. Besides, there were others implicated in the proceeding who desired kin not to say anything. (Renewed laughter.) That judicial inquiry had terminated, and the whole responsibiiityof anything ho might say rested on himself. Before saying anything respecting the borough he thought it would be proper to clear himself from the extreme degree of culpabi lity which appeared to rest upon bins. It would appear from the report that he had gone down to St. Albans per fectly aware of its reputation snit with his eyes open. It was exceedingly easy—with all the proceedings of the ease before them—with the whole transactions mapped nut after their occurrence—to say where the mistake had been 41- mitted—(laughter)—where the errors had arisen. k e tined laughter) He was sensible that he tad committed one ,great error, that was in going i:com to St. Albans at all. (Loud laughter.) He committed that error under the belief—which turned out to I , en tirely false—that there would ha no opposition. Three different parties in the borough invited limo to 'tend as s candidate, and agreed to give him their support; sail it appeared to him, from inquiries which lie made reaps ' lug the politics of the borough, that scarcely a doubt oath,: be entertained of his soccer'. Circumstances however an:" ~.„ which induced one of those three parties to becone his most determined enemy. (Hear, hear.) Haying pic.e , d himself to go to the poll, having rigorously canvass , d the eleetors—(laughter)—in order to secure their ripe , :t speedily as possible, ho felt that he could not retract. lie had no opportunity of escaping from thi di lemma in which he found himself. When l:c are peered I. the field, rumours arose and first rased of improper practices in the borough. Although be no evidence of snythin illegal—(laughter and cries of hi ir, hear")—yet he ecerfeeeW that be had his suspicious. ,IZe newed laughter.) But he considered that it was tin: ttr duty to inquire into all the details of such proceedings. (Continued laughter.) He believed it was not used for parties desirous of being elected to dive into the uccounts and proceedings of their agents. (Hear, hear.) It was the practice of the candidate to canvass the electors, to answer their questions ; that was his course. And so comp! , tcly was he deceived, that he stood • course of examinstion for more than half an hour, answering all sorts of r:itictil questions put by an elector, and congratulated them; upon on having gained a vote by nre,uureni. (b 0" laughter.) It trenepired, however, in the investieation pursued by the commission that the elector in quentee , had been bought beforehand, and had simply argued the question with him in order to keep him in the dark un the subject. (Loud laughter.) There was another couiiderse lion which made him not • free agent. After lie had taken the field, and had canvassed the borough on liberal principles—(renewed laughter)—he felt that he ea , re sponsible for those principles, and that it would have been highly improper for him to have backed nut of the election even if be bad been so disposed. (Ironical cheers) He might here reply to an observation which had been made on this pert of the question. When speaking of going down to Si. Alberts to stand on the principles of a earl be did not allude to the government. The report that ho was • government candidate bail no foundation in fact, and he took that opportunity to contradict it. (- 1 ' laugh.) He could fully exonerate the government front ay participation. The government had been pursuing bin from the time of the election—the y issued the corneal" and they now brought in the bill for ilisirenehisinir Sl• Mises'. He had nothing further to soy respecting him. , it. With regard to tbo borough, he felt that lie was in a wpon• Bible anti delicate position—first, as the represeatatise ; and /EBRIJARY 17, 162.. . ,