The Express. — London, England, 1852-02-21 00:00:00

IMPERIAL P. HOUSE OF LORDS.—FainsT, F. 20. 'nu LOAD CaANCILLOa soak kis mot at live o'clock. Their lordships sat last night scarcely an hour. The W ises was confined to the prossatation of petitions, and an siskination from Lord kliato of • misapprehension of what kad stated on • previous evening, by which it was sup posed he charged Wimp to the eapsain of the Messrs for pattlng iota Plymouth. HOUSE OF COMMONB.—FRIDAY, FEB. 20. The loess met at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Great Monster Pair Bill was wed a sewed time and etiassitted. ISLINGTON CATTLE MARKET. Os the motion for the 11000nd reading of this bill. Sir 0. °REY called attention to certain claims in this bill, which he thought interfered with the ibitnCattle Market Act of last year. That sot, whilsr bibited the establishment of say new cattle mils* eas Senn sulks of London, escept the one whirl alibi be oh. Slitated for Smithfield did not interfere with sgistfmig rm. bete. Islington Market, as was Well Whew.. we in okk MOO when that act pared, but it was =win by the pi. *sat bill to tato powers to increase itld le a Nees, sad to purchase the necessary hod he seek sad eves he ther enlargement. Hs was sadist that the wetter ef the cementer should he directed es he imam h taikke, which, if n struck out, it wadi be ellerwiris he Ow bases to consider whether the IMION/I• theeld premed farther. Mr. CHRISTOPHER was informed that the we precisely th 2 same as that of last year, which neehed the .at of the house; but if it interfered with the Mstrogiss litaa Cattle Market Aet, there could be ao objeedes Si fY wag altered by the committee. After a few words from Mr. MASTRIMAW, which were set heard. the woad reading Pawed. MANCUESTER, SHEFFIELD, AND LINCOLN SHIRE RAILWAY BILL. Kr. 0.. r., ~.;.aihr;;;;a7r.4l,;,,oithis bill. Alter sour diseusion, Mr. OILEENE noted that the bill be postponed for ail TB* imams &tidal: For the bill Ailairut it The au waa wiewegotwitly PUBLIC BUSINESS. • PETITIONS PILESENTED. t ....—. MITT ON it;llT-111011111A AND C•111LIA0113.-7 Mr. WAWN. 17VOI 800 R k Shields ; Mr. H. BEK LEY, from Bristol ; @fella the duties on post-hones and ear- Ma Ciemn.-13, Mr. FI.OYER, from Donets shire; Mr. A. HASTIE, from Glasgow. and Sir J. Y. DULLER. from Devonshire, against any further grant to Maynuoth. COFTNOLD ENIAANCHI4EMINT.—IIy Mr. 11. DERK E MIT, from the Rev. Nicholas Ensuing, praying to be heard se a witness before the Committee on Copyhold Entree &lmmune. NVNANDIZA —By Mr. A. HAMS, from Glasgow, praying tot the inspeetion of onatterin. TA MAN r Ruin r Bat. Mr. G. MORGAN (2), from "hers in the county of Wes ord ; Dr. POWER (several), IFNI the county of Cork ; end Mr. SULLIVAN, from the mere sea( corporation of Kilkenny ; in favoitr:ot Mr. S. Cnwford's Mr. DEED ES gave notice that, on the Sib Instant. be weeld o.'o for leave to bring in • bill to onsolideie end aimed the lass relating to the mama of_perla Mr. H. BERKELEY tt we segos that, n Aeneas: the Dill for :Dandies" P webs the ..coed reading, be amid is e== ills we the Wee- Um in clauses I N and 4 of the ER STAMPS. nude " ewes by hallee." EWSPAP The CHANCELLOR d the BICHEQUHH, in wpb •quetion (rots Hr. &holdall. said le was not inaes dean the la paid by the Wlthejteli EZOMIIIeT as a NW pada (or penalties awls: the Newspaper Stan* Ad, which penalties the sediment deeisioa of the Ceart et Es shelties had in effect dectsnd not to had bees iacarred. THE MEGERA. Sr F. BARING helm questioned by Mr. Rozsocn, slated that the Hegwra wee built in a private yard; she wee fitted up with greet can, sad en euasianden was pro neanced by the mat espaliers,' lasses abe peculiarly awed for the conveyance of traps, kw which slake she was destined. Special preparations and extra sommemeds don were provider. on board for the regiment she was adored to convey. He denied that the troops were over crowded, the ship being capable of carrying more. An offer had been made by the Admiralty to take 100 of the ass by another ship, but it had been refused by the Hone Guards, the commanding °Ear objecting to thews/mention. No more stares were conveyed with the troops than the seemeary arms, ammunition, tents, and baggage required fee their equipment. Instead of taking out des days' coal as had been alleged, the Megara carried with her from Dover coal enough for 10 days, if she steamed only, bat she was a screw vessel, and as she used sale* as well as steam, thus was sufficient for 20 days' working, aad he believed she left Plymouth filly coaled. She met with very severe weather, and encountered a hurricane ; still, it appeared she behaved well sad suffered little or no injury. He re potted the hardship the troops bad suffered in consequence, bet it could not be avoided. As to the allegation of the angel taking fire three times, the fact was, the felt lining of the boiler had got over-heated and taken fire once, but no injury resulted.—ln reply to Capt. FITZ soy, the right boa. gentleman added that the subject of coaling our alawattn generally was under consideration. THE AMAZON STEAMER AND THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT. Mr. M. GIBSON pat a question, whether ministers had askaowledged the humane and generous conduct of the French eilmiral at Beset in sending out a steamer to en deavour to rescue some of those who might have escaped the conflagration of the Amason. Lord J. RUSSELL replied that the government felt grate del fee those efforts, and Lord Granville bad been directed to oseasivnicatn their thanks to the French government. EXCHEQUER BILLS. Mr. J. B. SMITH inquired whether the report was true, that the Chancellor of the Exchequer intended to renew the Esehequer.bills at their existing rate of interest ? and If so, why he saerliked 130,0001. per annum, the difference between lid. per cent. per day, and the rate at which they Lett be reissued, still bearing a high premium ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied Qat it was tree ha did propose to renew the Exchequer lilts at lid. per day, having declined, after the best egad duration, to Mass the rate, because that way the lowest sate at whisktbsos sewasities have ever been boned, sad la did set think it desirable to reduce it, as so doing might had Is direiribb Oak velar in the market and at the sane Roe mast* THE IC EXPEDITION. Mr. ANSTEY willed to know (as we nadarellsod) why Captain Panty bad sea bees employed in a . 4 . ldairalty emsnesd MD el this Ergs of the - abont to be despatibed la soma d Sir John Peony% serried= ad blare bees ereashed = el Sir Edward Admiral SEILEALET replied that the Atbehelly avid set aerie he hia ? thres r the i :ekhr of the ereilleedees et hr as Ands (Chem sad kaglase.) I he word she wire grhish jes it a • proper lbw, it world he imerree es Kerley. ACTIO/129141291T THE MULTRANT-AT- A RMY Lei 3. ZUSISILL, atter Wowing to 6o sot 11 mg 12 Mho,fish gore deaden soaueittose power to .twit, Iti=that this was wet a we in wldsh the of Were invitee& sod wed that w Ve lone to pima to awl fished the seeks. Mr. Munn owl Mr. Rome= urged that tlo itemataad *a szsentiog reldit the siwhoot wee ..sanded aphid. 660 awsting illmody heat tits sesmitese, was is fort osmenad of disbye Itesikwed k etne ths ditty of the - le &head lii hp soma& -oB!(sBaL iii tii• Lilies was, *law tbs SWIM sf like awnings is ssmaitiisi maws W ssisillsi st set tin sisiostpewsro 'rood is klift sal dot was sot a lessiss et The soseiss. sew a lsw words tessiiiii. INGLIS, was spool is LOCAL MILITIA ACTS. Th. s^ On the sr= *Tajo day to biiaileiaistlio inert ea the Lead MM lad 3. A RVU use sad iiid—ho thin apnea to aims slew= Mellow ne belag la this MU to what in paidieler redder et do till we , ElZte bib( Y. 1 Mt the esker thy did we weed ea the bre eta hielnllhialzt i zestly meaty* eimarir i alt i Zst i 11„,„, • who shell b. hr a swell pen= of the new, sad who, la sees dnlaM be se Oar solisi bent lasiont down to the err, es hr =we the. to wit tl e ir Invie the seeder toseigkesd 'lbw et the sow reandosi ▪ isereend. We have sodisevound, henna the pro dding et dis Me le enenplia slindloy mats whisk and be Ind bembanne to eseatry. Is the frit den we proton huh= et Wail the saes either hen it to ID, or hen M 44 le hie Me apes I. Mt lanai= freesia le M. Minn= hen WS to 21--thet period of We whia nia an net wedgy wended, awl wisest, thenfen, nay wed! on be Odra away hers their hall= sad wide. oe the en bark hes nerdes would M wowed to then, ea the other, Is. lapse and be ot eosins& to the oreatry. Mang thin =a. obsess by bast, to do uisps.Yss of awe Ildh of all those who en of the ep, we nee say AM with rapid to se tens we de ass take either Me predeleas of the Militia Act. or the provideas of tie lied sink ash; bat we =peso that pones balloted hr =I lima shall be at Ibsen Is tad saMlN=i--ese sebedlelia. bewares, Si be eel st the sane Mak Oat le to my, It Inn be a lid et the am dada le satin the pane seeldai a sabelinte be im^ sel die s et Ihe spe a= et Se year le intik be A= es lb= Isti be idea eel, medal of the =end Awe =ell ass, we nanny be vary great EMl ally le felled iebidleass le the awes. Ewing lhass nia. Is the ens= at wit eash hie emeast- U.ssealterdsr, It the pha p WOO to we Ihn ripen that they &sell be Inlaid in Ihe drse year et sent= Mt Id days, aid It 'Mir years for *herper year. =I ivy have nklid their sada n. The novidne el tloots wads sets ap ply se the Yoe of posed Mat as alldney et nob • NM se we propose pill be stab will Yew of war. The newish= of de hail Wilda a= War to &Oft out hone to the went landes, eat as enny =Vdo mils sad hall=, then senhins ealy ie = =Ma to be lase away ken Irk seen- Moo awn. the pried, either of eat ailed bylaw or whlle the men is co the wad, sod ter des weeks after dew it non 00611210110iiii bee 491111111111•91. Now it I. THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 21, 1852. *dew that is wary war we my be in future seamed in overboard the previsimas of the Local Militia Aet: would my, es we ooestently put k is the Mutiny with sw ee t tits greet prime of Ramp ere the caked rely visits& to mink the sum. (Greet laughter.) Of Act every year, that it is drinks le seekkein the would net be enlisint, beam seem, It - I timiteelmel Wk. he is willing that the Week a power; because, if mak an s ili tat l ime mag g inr s piete amp is to the Milk- tires mad mei Mil somda fee sizsumths or for liliviteatiss of ear perk were permitted, that the greater. What we peopees„ to dee is to longer than the *lkea term of service. Hem, then, we every other Pewit was tiusiatened, we should net long be teg that is owe of sa hived* go al ea,. mem eilm ai * s tbe greet defeat el tile pad of her left, lasieb for • time all alight seem te be quiet_pnil loaded kudos, the 010,11 may tier del - 1111 NI Bt . l atia . m o. nee the wort ty, witheet haring to fight oklielees. (Mew, 'ma aset • udlitle. hear) But al th ough I perfectly unikeetemil the po lka, of heel militia kr • wig ex Whirl It pu t: , Ma smotho, with th e p r oems *Mg ow a o (Cheers sad )righter It he teVao fee only • Jesel mili- einem ,of asy nght hos. friend, whit le wooed to mended te 12 mouth s, is same it tie' that 11 is te be t nee the Rieke WWI& But any kerma el Wee arelakeak et this eoaahf,l •1•6111 to diem the crows for dm He eenodeed teat we are l i f ir le a militia besides. What II *bap- Ido not undeselend that of the noble lord raesellee le tym h a m won th us a loot* *hoe - - - oo dom o ho yea? the Wilda him, sondrideg of for Tieing's—Quer, hear)—brmmet he eamohrweed ase b *mod hsoilmallem mid mold kit imeed. 400,1*/, le to be celled oat em the thig I think, • mkt unusual way; net to spews the key vekelde for the of this oseatry eat of • war, sad liable to be kept embodied foe sir months reading of a bill—not to poiat oat the iterate of a pita Imo invoke sal atike IMMO *me there weed be every or looser, is to give way to as augmentation of the regular proposed to the house by the first iminibter of the IMMO— YZaI ealitegme Bo mmm, if that woos army, sad to the sabodykg.of a regular militia. (Hear, but what the noble lord proposm is, era the minieligs et o i diskillee sal shrike lasemehmtho 'Rem i t. hear.) Nov me what you will invoke you/seine in. the crown shall be debarred from laying their bid mei Mhos ale *et SIM he ItekatM= earn !Pa the ihillabli eat of a localwess you will bare the table of the Mee. (Hey, hear .) The noble hid ad lig a oodieloat Mee to diked the =%. 000 assn sagged in this =Mk , and yon nye "You shall not la before the holes that nusure oggemdes. (Rear, bear.) MIM mime, to the = me at Wild reefed to the Mal* memos of ea. *Mils yes have eonsia.r., and whisk yam have thee.* I AMA that it was totoodoe th a t th e toed listing a Loge ammatatlea of the tender may, whisk best to propose ; but you shall ask for leave to bring In lesuksemt a seek *maw shad have mown t o eel gm 'h. in that nee Waal le neeserary, MI et the ems Wes another bill in which my objections are obviated." (Hear, services of the seam Own me bisegi air b e mo l aw yen are te bidet hr I*,ooo ar MAIM rembir militia. bear.) But really this is impassible, for even if I Ilk likewise wood Um the pewee of amino mad Tot me make at yew reellekkg mess te rase nesa were to bring in another bill in which I had et leg twothisiselthe 'Mom ; while see-third of the for the Me t mil at the mos lime edeg kr the sada. tended to all the injunctions I have received, the noble Wading sea Goie.olooo, would be diem a I say, that lea my maks lial imiamelsogsmeintsst. lord might still say that the clauses wore not such as he prob aS the balf.pay get ef Mo maw may, phso is the vlt would be tigketer that yea "Mehl have, la of intended, and that I must bring in yet another esteem aides yeepsee 1 ask ' h oweve r; kw it i s peke, ma simmetio gum, m• reellere te your man* emisy, bill which should be more consonant with his feelings. silo he the here **Nike of the Pm. tebelhor it will . which yes ease MB out in time ..‘ war end whisk, mks Now, with respect to the dill between us. That silk •enillsisist fovea, - sad whether it win Amish that hem you have Bet k, abseil be deolollael la Mae of I pow, difference mainly consists in a point which the noble lord by moo 'AM would both, had wh a ms, t o th e me s , should mauls pod of year asst — to time of wee, - and has altogether omitted, and on which he has entirely ro te% whitestt having Ike MB beim it. (Rem hear,) Al which, ly i el j ept up, shoal relieve yea frees dee se. fused to touch. The question is, how to obtain a force that I Modem silt is, that I may be allowed to pleas Ike enm of re ity , for th ee case. • different body elms which shall be sufficient in numbers and in training, to Mg ea the table. I Mil be, as said the eO. debt, gels foe metier lone. la the scene of the last ter, I be able to act, which shall he removable In ease of danger =ireen Is diem ildo ohm mad mime op mow kit kw beltem_datit fever bsppeasli that in may ate year you from one part of tho United Kingdom to another, and which of he homaa, ar to 4110 am Mho poommoothat MOS del W add ISM Sit 115,000 to year repdar army. can ho kept for a certain time after the commencement of map bo pew M oegmehd. Bet Ido aka, swim sfiho mom Bet yea wiloil orin S a a nook Mom aggisatatioa than a war. Now the phut which the noble lord proposed l• le swag i t edll before tho boom jo that if you Were la a verger war. Yes would have (namely that of the regular militia) was that there should Wier Mt bone lad the country mg jehp ta Mae mild te your filar gamillas, and you be a ballot for area who would be obliged to serve for seven of it. Mesh bee.) I shed' mg likewise tha_nor= would require me faratatlea la year met defences. years. that the blithe aged aides asto with For those to m that what the Au Ilea. it —Five years. militia • sad deashow wbas mirlom. yri e adZ ". mmattor ho country weale is Ind 11= eel OM militia. It is a Lord J. RUSSELL—For live year . If, thee, at the Montrose asked him, sad the bill will be in force which has rented la that shape ever since the commeneelment of the pressot year a war skied ushrta itself. It is oboleas. it Madly require* to be st if year 1866. It wet remodelled is the time of George 11., meta, les& out, the tar me ballotted for, vim* heohllpid the omeloi,mo af the bill be eani out, it wawa gm b e and it was spin unproved in the time of Cietegs 111. 'There to save kir lye years se soldiers is that wee. TIM Is eadiskat to aptly the misting allittia acts with mom t o are various aukwhisk have boom pawed Mae, all of whieb of comes • very different deed spa she ma hum the the selling out dim a. (So we uaderstood the aohfi hod.) might be esamaleatly pat into ens; bag *Re is a system plau of the government, VIA* mold only embody them The present mode of obtaining keen m for the m i llems es whits bas misted kr nearly two 111•110110. MI k the ho 28 dale k the year, instead of obi lbent to some g extremely dilatory. It tabus, I Whom too mom to so preamble dike mt whisk constitutes tbe hem** ar ever for the whole 12 months, in mie it woo. (Meat, Mem& the pewees; owl k *mu be meet gi. and slieste of it ore dietimtly implaked. TM est Imar ; L ...a Tlesetle" question arises, whither meek Led has po4 MOM ,t• that moo apedy auto& that elm= • milks Mae leder Gilson is Great bet which lies at the bottom of the whole seams *mak arab. Itwoold be Awing (it would be dm Raked Xlmine aew)is semadal, mil Ili ....." likesea us. Will you say Mt you will altered the lama Militia Act, to hatreds's a kYI kg kw tbrceigh lb etasteatreaftesm at the short make rered have fall so ieess 1I am madmead did it ma pro. purpose of sonseaketing the militia acts. Be irmadod to for it, it has begs Mad elites Male& kapertemo ha k- dalmaile the erradry that yea um alisoil to make • ask the leave of the beam oe Mashy mods& h !dog laud diem of Ma realm" New, the heel militia was ballot fa sollbimm, and that you meld Adige km is that bill ; but msdieskedlng this wry Ma. Mead the as moldseed Mee, which was organised fora particular knotted to serve Ire tears as soldiers, Madam their con member for Mew= wiled tto smoo do qa._i wham purples. The ble of the loselest says :—" - Whereas, dition, the bill wadable so unpopular that there would be s ay militi a ewes shoran beadepted. I et untm gee it he M he primal purism that a local militia • great dillisoitp lit immykig it into apeedise. But Uwe mo d o f th e es mesitt e e of the wash louse m the as to o t should be establlskek sod miler metals reinstalls. to be is another peopritism, which is jest the opposite i had bees brought up. I will aet ester kW terthse sege• called fork k ease of iambs la old of hie Majoetri rem, namely, that yea meld take sukelektm. There meats. I think the argument as stated on M night lie =lugs &seer leg It Plegg es =r o4 7 , sod so however, a Very may objection to that. No doubt, by the noble lord the seember for Tiverton ea forth. , The local militia was es a reetne if you were to agree to offer a bounty of thirty shillings, Os sabgeet. They ere the miniver which I held t 111 •I it for the regular militia, and not se a imams selosteative la but still more to if you o ff ered 61. or 81., you wo u ld Is asesseary for the emilley bea( • limited sow itself; that being the case, it is a very =tarsi oind_m_aper be ablo to get substitutes enough to be trained for 28 d a y s et its disposal, lad will* o , peat de met Is imagoes* that the keel militia should est be Mid eat But observe, when you allowed substitutes in time of war , dare* directions ter that avelft_m• more beim, es I esa till the meaty was Madly landed, Mom hod la the they were at once embodied, and were restrained from d ► ! see, se prospect that the berme IMMO OM adapt ea addillea regular militia and la the regekr army •eM st Mew to serting b ell the penalties in the Mutiny Act. But if_yea o f sum, romp or *Ago moo to M regular army--that meet the Weedier aim, nerd all that we wanted was that o ff er in the county of Kent, for instance, • bounty of lif., there should be some *me or mob available Se alMtre we shed& hove •OW et reserve to brie/ up, Is else Ws , no doubt men would come forward as substitutes in 1862, the country that it hall a imillefeat amber of mea rap prj comMelle. Maki reader it accessory. nut we have not to be trained for 14 or 28 days. Yon would find many trained sod som at labk me in ems of war. 1* k that Owe IS bilk kith. W• have now only a very small men who would take th e bounty and the pay for the period that this force, when oho& disomi be sent J, l soy wag if Illiebiliallat RR II retake army, and what you want is a of training in 1862 ; bat when, at the end of that period, deem to amM i l trom tlibe Itft i, form *et ma ma cal( out eider arms immediately, sad they were discharged, who will tell me that in 1863 you Lord P . I NB NM it wee far mbish *geld be equally available throughout the Untied would find these men come back without • bounty, being from m y / AA it hoodoo to Nomad hoe modooty• a ro m a . Kingdom I will not go into the details of substitutes sad perhaps engaged in tome distant part of the country, and meat from Ddeitkg la e bill ft** paspaa of proAdles e la forth. What I via to impress es the house is, that earning good wages? (Hear, hear.) We are tbua placed foci, to be available is en .ae invdes , of when gene what we west is whet We ban bed Me two centeriee—the in this dilemma. Either we make a law which is efficient, may bed zitis e td p a th o . t to m t o regulei Mikis ; sad that Mkt we do sot want is • stick- but which is very oppressive, and not easy to carry into am en h er • i s so woww w w w i hh a ph a M6 hat name —e local militia—whisk from the remarks we have operation ; or we make a law which is not opimenve, but Bat t w a t t it o d olo y dro m h om m o om b o th go the just beard ie no longer to be a keel militia. It which is very inefficieut (Hear, hear.) If in the one wa w a m k s ma d too the l o woaw k w ao of au h o w. that ts quite plena that smell a fore for the purposes ease we ballot men whom we could secure—if we take Ma SW s e be be. yo,, wid t h wfit aw omm o dy m o dal o r I:describe would answer the present requirement, end it farmers, gentlemen's sons, manufacturers, and merchants, ma dd om bh doom m is l a id h i h oo d e d to a right psis. ii not a new thing, for, ion , l in 1826, and spin is 1831 and make them terve, me should have an efficient Puree, olio It B ooms if a bile b oma to i n on a mem it was trained. Now, although we have not this objeatioa, but it would be such a hardship that the people would not i t e a„ a peat deal mom Ye to work ft m ot e objections have been felt and have been stated to me, that • submit to it ; but it we take the other course and have • than if it was all Mt homed ea a pried* regular 'militia k • bed Ude& breams then are sebedbtles, substitutes, we should have no security ' that such ble to th e plumes of the bill. iv.. wks OW you could net alp ea Wishbees, that Ikea yea algid substitutes would ever appear again. (Hear, hear.) th le rashes 'tut said it molly appears to me that the tilde ost the sehiliMmi weahl aseaseee ; *et la lhot. I do not give these arguments as conclusive ; 1 them kam sit diffuses* bah eta the title whisk he load limy *I nut Wm to be semplied to serve, sad that is only wish the house deliberately: to weigh them ; but I Weak to give to hir bill, and the eitbdeuce end Prink's= Ireland yam amid as* ham that objections amount think you ought to consider whether my plan is not the of t h e „mama measure , The abeam d am n e kw naafi to USK 11•• leglibms• are elteGIN that Scotehmen are best, making, as it does, no extravagant demand. The mo w s aro-riariai is my i n t en ti on t o mom to a mply i s pl ow comestil a sad Mt Irishma see lises. (Cheers.) All government has given the subject the 'tallest consideration. t h e t i t l e en d th e p rev i s i ons of the am in h omma y w ith the eiteldrille Mt I ewer beard to the militia ere founded They have had before them the plan of the noble lord, which each other, (Hear, hear.) With mo m i n the gat e men d. epos Mimi Mender the pee*. (Beer, ken.) Well, lon he was himself so good as to send them a few months ago, went, that I think is quite unobjeedeadde, _ to the matrary •amillopmedlessehie imillemede; bat of thin end they have come to the conclusion th a t th e pl an th e y h ave what we have just heard, because it hi that whether tbe lam mite sure, that if yes mead trod tU people to defend proposed it the least subject to difficulties and objections. to be brought in skull relate to the militia or le tit losal ibmselves it is time to give up. If you cannot trust the Ido nut say that they have come to the right couclusion ; ' Janina, it shall be • bill not only to aimed, bet te sem& Rogge to come to their standard when the country is in but is it right—is it expedient—for you to my to the go- date the laws. And on the statement of danger, if you cannot trust the people of Scotland to take vernmeet, " You shall not produce your plan —you shall t h a oohed= as It i s ho llo w t o re p ea l tip arms to fight an .any, if you most trust the have no opportunity of laying your bill before the house 1" M oowow a loom and t e the whole Irish to fight for their essomy, why, let ea INIMI ter a (Hear, hear.) If that shall he . your docision—if you decide' i n ene ' — i — e „ es t. t h e o d i u m I memos . so d Russian farce. (Load skier..) Let us have OM Asekka to leave out the word " local '—l will not miter into the' whisk we h emeeme bb, m oo d ( M r . li m o h as garrison, let us hide our hoods in shame and ea ad question of consolidation, for it is quite in conformity with g ee m i , — • Is n et m e ne _m a a dm en o r admit that England is no knife Backed ; that the people the bill ho brought in—but if you leave out the word e oeeao Y(M e ^ mom wwwwwa y. booms, tingly mam my of this country have no Wager either midt or men. to de. " local," why, then, Mr. Bernal, the chairman of commit- w ad =it ammo t h e wpm& B u t th e ma l e De w i s , feed themselves. Bir, I b eg la /MVO the Midi= of the tem, and the noble lord the member forTiverton, us the whether h o we mo m oo t t o h am i s to he founded words "to consolidate,' dike the word " sassed." and in such a bill as the noble lord may wish ; and whoa (is tit mails, or upon t i t , h o d militia acts. Now th em afterwards to move the oatimitad the word "hest" before that bill comes before the house I will take it ink liest is a very eiseatiel Caresses between the two, sad militia. (Cheers.) 'deistic's. (Hest, hear.) that km beta entirely lost sight of in the ohm- Mr. it GIBSON mid he weed take the Marty of milt- Mr. DISRAELI—Tho noble lord has proposed ** ke 'atlas whisk have jest fallen from the noble lewd. lag slew remake ea this si beam the smademst of troduction of a measure into the details of whisk he bee Because, in to bring in • bill which is lee the arable kid fit member kr sed as the_ proposi- very carefully entered, and it is founded upoa a peke-ids i te t i„ i .. ~ th e m ili t i a , th e noble h a ll Ma el** gememeat. Re espikedi *me dieidile a which another member of the house thinks is mesintially ha, de.ribed very near l y e bill f oun d e d R y an the w o , aosessity ilm applying ay pilaf the oaktim ps = to the vicious. If the principle on which is founded the measure militia. (Rear hear.) WWI humbly conerise was bermes/ me sraimarate. Drabs at the of this of the government is vicious, it follows that all its details i a t e n; i i i , are i n a „w e d an d eettatryorkk Milroy petalales. ad the rest altisalty must be greatly changed and modified ; and everyone Son which exposes us, Af t wi th rob'. that there meta ememeathekbeartmkomper- knows that, under the circumstances, we should only be ty, bet to the poesibility of ourselves involved in tions of the Maedag dorm k memeed to Ma k would losing . time if we entered upon a controversy as to details r imy war. We ore liable to be in cam et war, by a be very dadoode, if it were pseedik, to apply the surplus, melting from • principle the propriety of which is cha lky •Imikesble end formidable hem. We bare am, In as far as they meld, to the repeal of such taxes se stood in lenge(' by • member of the house, and which many members t i me a pow , a regular ana, remit. a ley *miss, to the wey of thesseployment of labour—(cries of 0 ob, oh," may agree in believing erroneous. (Hear) I understood the imi my aosoimmy o f that blot It wadi at mg the from toe eppakisaj—ead therefore stood is the way of the noble lord to say, that if • member of this house, or if A haft eight itenetre, it mold es* mit the IMMO All the WOO.. Ind ISMllleallient Ober Majesty's sub j ect . The majority of the house, consider that the principle of the bill m o m se kn ew th e womb d th e m att al y m h os o r great semeitydoedeas woe the ostentation of the people, is essentially vicious, end that its details would be benefi tsomillemat, who, in times of peace, maintain • standing and thweibre be matemied it was wise policy, if they could, dally changed, it is not open to the house to relation the assy serest to defend this, at all events et the Dam- to apply the emplas to the repel dews taxes as could be propriety of the government introducing the bill. (Hear, mmennen s e s., war , i n oa ashat maser. o ur ma m a , sham h o mimed the elaphiptest of labour, and therefore bear.) The noble lord disputed this, es if it were some ., th olo h o V. th at „ s te m r i g it whisk hat hoom i s to penis die maim af the working dames ken being ,thing unparlismentary—(i hear, hear," and a laugh)—end ai , -- e imag e y ma n i n th ou of sa d i s in. promoted. Nem ha dii me say that a awe amid not unconstitutional. He memo to consider that if a minister sakeisat to meet the various coo to which be made out formibkg Mamples to the Mame of the promote a measure, and if the principles upon which it is we am be mom% onthe booming set of war. erallobli MINIMA are—de 11•1 P And if it was, were the founded is erroneous, it is not open to us to express our A n d m a m b o , w h o I my, "m th e b o om s , out or a fame *be Lammed is the wap used by thimble lord opinion upon that measure. ( Hear , hear.) At least that is wed' two . d aises wid t h has tow s at o m hi moimo the sa member for Ilkelete le weymesed hae lls tig e: the argument of the noble lord, if I have not merepreesated by moms Odom mien the ismer laces imothesat, ea Weield'eJlewermiewl• nes brigbrig • ri him. „ m aw, Ms it was i n an y p ininera oleo* satire—(inaiad else' he appreashed tbe goes- Lord J. RUSSELL here made a remark screw the Mk c m _ t om , - ,Tt — te i Th oo t o Nor m a net el m o r r ties with very esmellemble *Malty, viva he saw so Mr. DISRAELI — I understand the noble lord le say wwo b o l i r v aihaoad m o l e ima m s ootwdoo may great &MUM= at hem with emit 'rather. He that I have not misrepresented him. bui that a t rh o mod of a to at t he thought from what key_ bad booed to might that aim of Lord J. RUSSELL — You quite saireadentood Tam a wl ma math , h a dodoomos den , how la Ms bad a very clear idea of the hree that they mated, et Mr. DIBILAILI—The noble lad says that I quite Me that haw to b e p ne de e d w i n d, why. e n m ay n e . of dr dangle that that gwee we to gamed egeket, understood him, but that I did net esimpresaat Ida. ' i on ,* way o f poooko ff gamma serer a knew m somdelly whoa he measeled the peeped wllk the (imoglatm) I wish the hoses to eseeklor bow we ace that shah( have - la hos op mo . a sat jambes that wise made tho other evade( whoa the pro- seem was mom to the gamma w o n us. It i o mom femo, mod , di a . was gat eabeitted. Aid now odd' rowed to the tbaa her yam ego km the government, of which the d a m s . &ohm moo d. = .=." ma d y they wen mßall to guard eakeL They were =Me keg ts the thief , that they WON aboat to on iihi Aids* motet am Masr arm at the breaking te kr , • M a el 4 loaa Teem AgliONe• ; they bring Messed • litem;se tio the militia. TM adds lead oat el a war, or mks a was May be eallidpated. That win la ae whieh had alt *a beihre, aka AM as hdredese rase before the house, with the details Y t h e g o t oo ;did om I woo s a how whisk moll be t oady, thenhe he they mat te be madded with whisk have been gives In Waging foie's** the t Mimi sad ambled. tie and o hm vogue somkom het that they have special alreams. bill ; sad I elwald like to have bees intonate' w r his yes inlay o d o il oa do am = I Z = il loadoo mom Theybeibelmempecial names seised, which were, that opines then was, that the projected militia Maki be a re- Inma m or ol o t — aolo ph k m . ko kr is k kawaw ar i a l wh a t they nigh be soiled urea le milli* the equilibriums rake or shed militia. (Hear.) We have all beat Snouted ma Ni h_ o m oam yea Ni it a hod w e a m ph r m iliti a , ease's Ole Ratio's of if/N.A. been male the tom of the with say idermation on that subject whisk reedy would be heheed,aplpp4 rod armed, sad MuseMuseof pewee. Tie adds lewd the amber for Ti- be khairriag ; but it is quite clear se the exeunt n it o t o b e ca n e d at a t a t p er m& B u t mem sell they _ bad *Meal intends la all parts slams eager obi* this Memo wee were ante , l a w m ili t i a i s n et in , Th e „fin e is at, of the void width It was neesnary he Om to de- mike* to thoes reVellidella and alarming elleirreaela Midi h y t h e l aw w him h ome d it, two to be ogled tied. Why were they pe;red to give *dr emotion now we kW RIM reseally vitalised, it wee a d ple a-at exce pt in user es actual mo t hs al tho moo to the Mbar of pewee alliatidasil by eggemion on ride nerdy, sad um bangle limed marease to o f as same mam ma i n hese sir yo u r mom tho pet el this eserstry t me gees te pie imy imps- eiremadmies of a ham elmadoeammely, that tit de- Th oo a had Wag tenant too lam when miatod, By Masse t the opeoebse of M amble lied the taker for Ti- Maw of the wen not so ellsient u they ought to a motm a ph i d mitt pa m o ld b e m o th, ho Its.. oaths, or were they to pm tbem_ as lee mode ? If be. Therefore, is • forward soy maser* of this w ein — tb e a ka use moo ordrea—ma woad he oohs w a t they were not to posi km hy as *ls week they were to kind, we ased lest it at ell wet mimeos to the I* h o pi h o o h m m o s hw a bad gat t o m y our low. d that tee of the mom hr aa lemeseed force important tromodeas whisk have saboodessely essosired ; rff..., b ol o . v . age let mu memo mhos t om web that they might be ailed ups le be agpmeive, _to in- end me have die ohmage of deliberately eeeelerfeg this the boa rd i sa M oa d ohms lying to your bey% it holm la tit aides of lame; hir My wore told that it media with millesaes so whether the country Is in:the po i, yineal s t h at e n Meaner want wall act nee My bad hem mmested 'ma the Rumps= system sad lidaaefesildelbaselawhich every rest country ought* ie. i n t i me le b e e e um nit y ou w o w give s so that it might be he imbed to take*, port that (Cheers.) We bays mally, them, to Inquire, if it is mese ihe meal waw a A e t ; in g se f ar th e 1, 0 she took before end Mee of arm attimpt to SW—which almost ell tbe imeaben appear to have _lipoid Militia Ad is thrown ovedmoird by the noble lord ; miatak the Mow et . Now, for am, he —what would be *a most (*Mat was in which this do oot still he mommoo h o oh, ( Hear , hear.) Well, wh a t was eat la Lem of polity. He dimmed the meek' prefer may be implied. WW , look et the go- Is the neat mmilitiss ? TM welt condition is that the force pulley et the balms it poem wit the possibility el main- mums*. Ahem fir maddinties of the to m o a t m t, ami d and amso oo d. an d sex e d ou t i n time Mining tbe dighreat Mime of limp ia the pukka, whisk they MI latesdased to the rove ts wa,...,,i.„„ig. who a alg i d Mt. be Bosh, t o moo i n either la reiblease to terrikey er the powers that they were alter Menem__ is kat et *me of *lege which my ..."1,6, -- iitabi ii.d. ka whisk d o h otimodth settled mho at tit time of the Comm of View. He ao sae will esasider to have mailimed Idiom lees ezic a t i moo li - .h i m w e eje - fren — ide n d et endi we moo am divided bode the palmy mi the peadisability of maintain- *mime swim latoodased a IM, WI shit they ee aT m ea s ig oo T — amo m oos h o t m a d oom mot nog b oom log Vara Mrs ei mag tbe adieu of Europe. Mood a prlest, lbe Mete bee a sight, Vlt somiders t may be that we may have am mom etteeepties • Wei Our latuesb wipe MIME' the limits of our own bed upon ea erreasous Wadi* et ease to maw Its leg net only ie ime mo tart but i in two er these * lai r TM a g el a i d ie di lar had M o i r a wale the people of Scot- ;pi s n r len. (Chas) d lt is, in fast, • malls, of public duty rt w i s l id i ller ; e l es esi t wo w l e ~W.' your wowy, Id* wet to le need, he doubted whether i e t sure. (H shun aet ram er, hear.) All M edde i res ' a whi s tr illiPl althe t f i t i ll e:d ia Lt Meet be epplisalikte 41, mils it is thing Riegilem. _ net M a rkle, le Mlle* before dem plead ems im destelled we Mil be ado to ester sic whoa we see la allear.) Mare, dm Lea RIM del *Weedy amides las eir i _ with 5* _ eteseddee ; bat If it be the opiates sells Mw that the *Aim k ee l militia a m a ms 1 ,,, o a t of ormeg r itai n . or to mod tea • ISSIMS Ile _ in Meier° of the govemmeat Is headed upon • principle Ike gab Led , wins yielfan is the tome of argument, of • yea kept c 11.111•411•117. _lf we orgaideed that cannot lead to the man we all hairs to ecesemilub, I vt h o t th h e m micron mat oat be me a l, b e a sts , it shag • molar militia, es msemi by lard relmelMeely it would think it is the duty of the louse to 'sprat its belief. reM the wide of the United s = t ilehmelpaesasedlisosheesi—tha eablabard (Hear, hoer.) The noble lord bee shown • to kW be ails it the Meal militia. .) admitted dist ski weed be ea ellbasive mem as hems, but if it be legitimate for k ex ,mem „um lid or me moo s I armors tho giros. W e edymea mir aam he die &ham of the mem thole opiates, I eared leek that they will aet bead le oath hob law. booms kis ibodatoly wasiowo 7 atesisy. be wood ad believe we &haulms, for he tale to de so, sad Mt as mama will deter *ma km lay hat tho dostadm Moe to be wisdom should be mold ad balms Mat ell the Mee had bees entrusted leg dew the mad mem _whit& Os Missal de to every pass o f th o u n ited Bloado m , B u t u m h ow with the sommeals of the 'smoky had ailed es basely as to heiessiMail be (Load doom) t o Me. ;MBA is not th e kook it is the molar Milos . smashed* sesemsessme ladled to thee . He could not Sit 0. GREY—Vie lick member hr Basks boo so p oe m aid - - haohtsoh homer dramthe meth smoked Wine did ohm se mask our 7 spent we were in so do- entirely adosaderstsed the animal of rap mode friend, moo tome to mom sly in Ireland ; the miffin g gl om* hessian a slats se was but the parade had been that if I- bed ad heard his deer vadeas I *sold have B r itain oily ta Beam Bata& Bet in du a am get tip hr pasty pawns. Isowever, he was bound to thought it impsedble for any ose to have put such a con by whisk ell militia moo, hem that time Mwast were vase ke either prepuitim be should prefer that of the go- lerkellek ape it. (Hear, hear.) My noble Mend never liable to serve in say pad ef the United Kingdom. veremmt. uttered ma eameadon which could intimate that this house Well, I whit that to be so still. I seams to Led J. RUSSELL:—I ems well understand the course was net y entitled, at any stage of a bill, to express be makes kr the oaf* of sere pommies' which whisk has been takes by lay right hon. friend (Mr. Milner its upon the policy of • measure submitted to I have is Mimed. (Rae Me.) It will be eke little Oilima.) That mallemea, as well as the hoe. member for it lay km ltajes's government. lf, however, the noble eadobstisa le me if I sada be 11__ m ea enseny s force Metres. (Mr. Meese) coosider that this country is lade tie =ember for Tiverton, shall Press his modes , and helm la Woad, that *MI OM Wig pills at kcal mi- sollsiently &hailed by the new; but, with every feeling If dm 'majority of the house ogres with him litiomea_k_Wml. bet thee we met es* *meet my of of Maims it is sandsasy, Ido not think it would in thee 'vision, then it will ho open to me who may the e labeler& that ape ma dellad sesedem and trust be Bekleat to have ell the Imes of Begird to rest upon beaberged by her Majesty with the of her may* the aid of se* a voloalay torso se we mold millet. tbemml Mee et the M-y. (Rear, bear.) I do not gloVerneriellt to bring In a bill on easiber plastids ter the (liese,heer.) Them is masher pate'. So far the noble Is She 111111, degree whaesver Infer dee our navy may kisses of tho country. (Cheers.) Whet the noble lord lad lambsediseed Ms ilmaserork of • heal militia ; and net be toady to meet en enemy ; or that , if they did the member for Tiverton says in Abet to my noble friend be bas ileseribeil a hme, whisk in all the impute which I meet them the Imes weed ad be with theiruenel mm ;le till : You shall obtain leer .te be itt_ • bill, net th e have mealleask k Waded with the maks militia but I also samider hie he slate of Ms ohms* an d bill which en have rename, nut wee wags, le whit* the and le dlikeeet sod glided Ma a local Wilda. Thin is the meammes of tbs ammo be auk that ad silos Mews el refers- I f . bowlegs: the Uwe Weald MI emother mist thawing OM kis loyal rigida imposed might sot have as of magas then before NM lash doll hill le lls , we most elvdt m v o itit that re by yet Rd* is ad aleeal Made at all. Ti . peeped they had soma • !toil ser Mak (Rear.) MIAMI Ihe we bow a• wed Id- We • bill which •=no lgrt Y that tho Meese te be Gaged eat *odd be Mille be remit Oa 'Oat seem* I *Ma to MIN that it vas rat ea. we have IteePara Ale alle dellhelatits• sad that I think aelbediod se hug se it k requisite for the &Mee of the =ate rat kir* ent OW lintel Ask. bat time we the base ought inst to have before it, sad ma my qua lm& hr Os pablk esit. Now, the loud militia she ham amok* hoops* ear *arm We have gm el esnendseate way be Mesuelled et • later rem es. The lad mkt* be the eat, was liable, es I have on may, It to Me, sad damn that meld be, with- lege. (?tear, Mm.) But now to Gems to the Ni, af , h a mad set oo h r ea o , m o gamy was laded , or eat M l, l a pop oo m a t o to a m m o% la esies fik e l y WWI question. What the noble lord (Lard Pelmeretoc) vim be was amity WINO on the meet ; and it seed aot Mktg & eel oilleisat form pot it is moil wrest, Om. says is , that we demi& have • twee smelled, vellittaied , he brat eadedled dm Mx weeks after Mt messy dislagdm Mk extent of our sheers, to easel on mem on disciplined, Alma. equipped, mood Mid ready to be W bee. expend em in the ether ease, bed beer - %Me OS which they might set het. I therefore called out at set karat's mom ; sad.* the eel* kid will milled ham Mott That, I semeive is met mdrely how my right hon. friend. (Nam bear.) wait till he WNW the bill he will find that knee skies* have The eaelbeg away a imam that ;my wear of lbe I gel now enter at all into pee mostiem of the been studied. end Mi he seoeseibbei by the memo mil, or the hamilete erpobism meld ad le• dm MM. biome of power, any further than to say that these ;pm which has bees Papered y bee WNW t mantaof the war. ( Hear ; hem) Theishro Ike Mal Ed- Mae if M balsam of pram dam* mash, *heap Meer. hear.) But thole the agarked tom L . v eh t l eg= hlla k lesideleat. But ben dpi Ibe amble lord limn aim Me cuetioes et aellemei Mom (Obeues.) I the word " MAI " Deems the lona hie* menlete ede captain iszeeptiemallie provisions; but it Is to the imam& meals M them win that the bill of the government is tiarelelterighse,tifir.)asift A' trfnorthre points which it se iitk I see ss- . "‘11 the Aware is intended. (Cheers.) We 40•1 Imo t A wee weir duty, looking at what was uses,- debase ell tils mislay, to propose tbat message ih r ....w we wesdids wow sisissit sod ism budge sows ip dis blili we din& would be boa suited to the ' ad , mud would least interfere with Sfile emieyments of the public. (Chess..) • hen • to expect - on. members to tell us whether it is an em militia which they have in view. I (gamily say that if the house will allow the bill to be in troduced they will find that it fully provides for all that is required. (Cheers.) Allusion has bean made to a state ment I made the other night that the local militia was a defensive, and the regular an offensive force. What I said was that the embodiment of the regular militia in the time of war, or in the time of peace when war Is threatened, would set free a certain number of the regular army, and would to that extent supply the place of a regular army, while the regular army would thus be enabled to take the field whenever that might be necessary. (Hear, hear.) I trust nu such contingency is necessary ; but Ido feel that it is memory to place the country in a state of defence, and, believing that the measure of the government will be sufficient for that purpose, I Ask the house to allow us to bring in the bill. (Cheers.) Mr. DEEDEtt supported the amendment became he be lieved that the measure shadowed out by Lord J. Russell did not afford a reasonable prospect of having en effective force. Ile was in favour of placing the country in a pord tioa to meet foreign aggression, and did not think a local militia would have that effect. Mr. HUMS opposed the amendment, thinking the government measure ought to be allowed to be brought in. Ile denied, however, that there were any grounds for the present panic, and declared that we were better protected than at any previous part of our history. There was no necessity whatever for this establishment of militia, unites the government intended again to entangle us in the intrigues of the Holy Alliance. Ile differed with the policy of ministers altogether, but considered that the course pursued by Lord Palmerston was most unusual and unfair ' and thought that after the decision of the other night the government should be allowed to develop their plan. lie should veto with Lord John Russell. Mr. SYDNEY HERBERT said that, on the preceding night of debate on this subject, he had not advocated the permanent embodiment of the militia. But a general view ought to be taken of so important a question, and he thought that Lord Palmcrston's amendment would enable Lord J. Russell to deal with the whole body of militia law. He recommended Lord J. Russell to accept that Lord J. RUSSELL explained that the present bill would bo confined to local militia. The generel militia acts would be dealt with by a subsequent bill. Colonel THOMPSON gave hie vote to Lord Palmerston, because his lordship went further than Lord John Russell. He was old enough to remember tho time when, under dr camatances of danger, there was great confidence in the regular militia, and that at the same time the local militia was deemed of very little value. (Cries of " Divide.") Mr. F. MAULE wished to point out the difference of the two principles placed before the house. Tho object of the government was to introduce a bill to amend the law with reference to the rural militia, which should have the) effect of providing fur this country, at the cheapest rate, end in a manner the least burdensome to the people, a force which should be most speedily at the divosal of the government to protect our shores in the event of actual or threatened invasion. (Hear, hear.) That was the purpose, distinctly, solely, and categorically, to which the government measure was addressed. Fur the last four or live years the attention of the goverment had been given to this principle, 113111 l ly, to the establishment of a force, similar in constitution, if not in name, to the local militia of former days, in which a large proportion of the population would bo trained to the use of arms, and that at a very moderate cost, which might form a respectable force for the defence of any locality, the people at the gam" time not being inconvenienced by quit ting their families and avocations. It might be all very well to disparage the local militia. If they wished to have another name, call it en army of reserve ; but to all intents and purposes it was a branch of the service, composed of men in their own localities, and thus interfering in the least degree with their employment. (Hear, hear.) He was as distinctly opposed to having the regular militia in time of peace, as he should be to adding 60,000 to the standing army. (Hear, hear.) Hon. gentlemen very little knew what were the compul sory powers of the regular Militia Act. It compelled a man to serve either by ballot or by substitute; he was liable to he embodied, to be removed front his family, to be carried to any part of the United Kingdom, and all his settlement in life ' his avocation and employment, might be utterly destroyed for seven years. Ile might not be called out in the year in which he was drawn. Every precaution might be taken to secure that the men so drawn should be single men, without any incumbrance. After being drilled for 28 days in the year in which he was drawn, a man might return home and many ; next year he might be em bodied, and leave his wife chargeable to the parish. And in the trounce( two or three years, the whole of the militia men might be married men, leaving their families chargeable to the parish. How would the country gentlemen like to be chargeable with the expcn,e of maintaining the wives and families of a militia, who were marched from their own panel' to Ireland, or Scot land, or any part of the kingdom? What he wanted to see established was a force—call it a local militia or what they pleased—which should be called up for service so many days in the year, be sufficiently large and extensive in its numbers, and which, like the yeomanry of this coun try, with a very trilling drill, might be made quite as effec- tual for any purposes as any raw levies could be made. Such • force had another great merit : on the breaking out of war on the continent, or any other event which might ne cessitate an increase of our troops, it would form a nucleus from which that force might be efficiently increased. With 120,000 of these men, partly drilled to the use of arms, with a military spirit in f used through the corps, it would only depend on the amount of bounty offered to them how many thousands were added to the regular militia or the army, whenever it was necessary to extend either the one or the other. In the course of the last war there had prevailed • system of floes, under the Additional Forces Aet, in proportion to the supposed value of a man's pro perty. rise fines were placed upon the parishes, who were made responsible for the proiuetion of the men ; and by those means, a surplus was produced to the fund. Complaint had been made of the local militia act not extending to Ire land. This had never been the case: there had never been any ballot for militia there ; they had been raised by beat of drum. If the system proposed were extended to Scot land, there could be no objectioa to raising • system of volunteer corps in Ireland. lie would caution bon. gen tlemen opposite how they gave power to any government to embody a regular militia ; it would be one of the most unpopular acts that ever was passed. (Hear, and cries of " Divide.") Mr. CIIARTERIS said be should vote with the govern ment, considering that the responsibility rested with tacm. The house then divided, when there appeared For the motion For Lord Palmerston's amendment The announcement of the numbers was bailed with loud cheers by the opposition. After • abort interval, Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said—Sir, I consider that the vote to which the house has just come is tantamount to a refuel to allow the government to bring in the bill which they have prepared. (Hear, hear.) It is a bill for the in ternal defence of the country, and as suelha billof the utmost importance to the country. I cannot therefore consent to assume the further responsibility of tho bill with an altera tion in its title which I consider objectionable. (Loud cheers.) I intend, therefore, to relieve myself of all fur ther responsibility with regard to it, and shall leave it to the noble lord, or any one else, who wishes to bring in the hill. (Loud cheers.) Lord PALMERSTON—I cannot help expressing my extreme surprise at such an application by the government of the proper functions of this house. (Cheers.) I cannot conceive that the government has, without full deliberation given notice of a measure for the better defence of the realm. The only difference of opinion between the govern ment and the majority of this house has been, whether that I measure should be founded on the 424 of Oeo. 111., or the' 68th Geo. 111., whether it should be established as a regular militia or a local militia. The noble lord stated that his measure was so nearly the same, with one excep tion, as one for the arrangement of • regular militia, that it appeared to me, and to a majority of the house, that it would not be consistent with common sense if we did not make it • bill for a regular instead of for • local militia. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord stated that his plan admitted of substitutee—he stated that his plan embodied the calling of it out at the commencement of a war like a regular militia. If I understood the noble lord aright, the militia by his plan would have to serve in every part of the United Kingdom, like • regular militia; and the only difference is as to the period they are to remain em bodied in case of war. (Hear, hear.) If that be so, I would put it to the noble lord whether that is a reason why the government should shrink from the performance of its duties—(loud opposition cheers)—and throw up on account of • temporary and incidental failure—(ironical cheers from the same quarter)—• measure which they ought not to have proposed unless they thought it essential to the safety of the country. (Cheers.) - - - - sre should then be told that it was not the noble lord had intended, sad that other provisions must be in. traduced. (Bear, hear.) Bit, ia this a position for a go. Torment to hold ? I think I made great admissions, when laid that, with regard to all the details of the bill, I should be ready to listen to amendments, and that I would be ready even to refer it to a select committee for further consideration ; but if we are stopped at the threshold—(cheers)—if we are told at the very commence. :Dent that the house has no confidence—(loud dicers from the opposition)—that the house has no confidence in our measure, it is impossible for us to go on with it. (Chectl.) I, hear a cheer on the opposite side which implies very clearly that the noble lord was wrong is the observation he made, and that it is intended by this vote, and by putting the government is a minority in a time of very serious importance; and, with regard to • very serious question, to si l o w that the majority of the house have no confidence in the ex isting administration—(loud cheers)—l now conclude by moving that Mr. Bernal and Viscount Palmerston do bring in the bill. (Cheers.) Sir B. HALL—I think the course taken by the noble lord below me (Lord Palmerston) was both unc.,lltittor and unprecedented, and that it would be mere coos, Mint, and, under all the circumstances, more corteous, to allow the noble lord at the head of the government to introduce the bill. But having supported the noble lord (Lord J. ltwewll) on this occasion. I confess 1 could nut go along with Innately further, for I should have given my votes iu conjunction with the hon. member for Montrose. But lam nut satis fied with the decision of the noble lord at tho head of the government in calling upon the noble viscount to bring is the hill. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord stated that the country required a militia and further defend•, tad if he was not in a position to carry the measures which he thought necessary for this purpose, he should give up his situation as the First Minister of the crown. (Chem.) I hope the noble lord will at curt! give up the Mike he holds. (Cheers and counter cheers.) I understand that a very similar notice of motion was given in another plate. ("Hear, hear," and cheers.) The hon. member for Btailford Colonel Thompson) stated that he had a horror of a foreign force, but he had a still greater horror of a conservative government coming in. I have no such horror. I should like to ace them try their hands, and therefons I call on the noble lonrat once not only to abandon theta!, but to declare that he would no longer preside over the councils of the nation. (Loud cries of "Year, hear.") Lord J. RUSSELL at once stood up and said—Sir, I rue to say that I think I masse my meaning sufficiently clear— (loud ministerial cheers)—when I said I took it for granted, as the result of the vot: of the house, that the ministry had no longer the confidence of the house, and that such being the ease, I could no lonizer con tinue—(loud ministerial cheers prevented the conclusion of the sentence from being heard, but it was evident the table lord meant to say that he could no longer continue to be the responsible adviser of the crown). You, sir, haring said that there was no motion before the house, I concluded by moving that the noble lord the member for Tiverton be called on to bring in a bill ; hut, of course, I did not mean to impose upon him that responsibility. (Hear, hear.) The great body of the members in the house then left, evidently excited by the crisis which occurred. DIFFERENTIAL DUTIES ON FOREIGN SHIPS. On tho motion of Mr. Lenin:enema leave was peen to bring in a bill to enable her Majesty to abolish, otherwise than by treaty, oa condition of reciprocity, differential duties un foreign ships. ESTABLISHED CHURCH IN THE COLONIES. On the motion of Mr. GLADSTOMIN, leave was given to introduce a bill to relieve bishops, clergy, and laity in the colonies, in communion with the church of England, from legal doubts or disabilities affecting the management of their church affairs. The SPEAKER reminded the house that there was no question before it. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) Lord J. RUSSELL—Sir, after the statement of the noble lord, I feel it is incumbent on me to say a few words in explanation. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord said that' the measure I explained the other evening, and also this evening, is so nearly similar to the plan for restoring and establishing the regular militia, that he is surprised at my throwing up the measure. If that is the case, then I think it is an unprecedented course to take, that beiause there is some difference on some point with regard to the bill, the majority of the house should therefore alter the words of the title of the bill, thereby implying a great change in it. (Hear, hear.) But I am perfectly sure of this, that if we brought in a bill on the principle on which the house has now decided, CHARITABLE TRUSTS. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL in moving for leave to bring in a bill for fseilituting and better securing the due administration of charitable trusts in England and Wahl, said he intended to go somewhat at length into the details of this bill, but after the interesting discussion which had just taken place, and the result which followed, he did Dot think that lie should be ju.titicd in cots ring upon any statement of its provisions. At the same time, he might say that the bill was the name as that which had been passed by the other branch of the legislature last session. it wu a bill of considerable importance, and whoever might be responsible for its conduct in that house it should have his cordial support. (Hear, hear.) Leave was then given. SCOTCH IiARBOURS. On the motion of Mr. F. Mote leave was given to introduce a bill for enabling burghs in Scotland to Improve and maintain their harbours. I'EItSONAL ESTATES. On the motion of Mr. C. Lewis leave was given to bring in a bill to provide for the administration of penional estates of intestates and others, to which her Majesty may be entitled in right of her prerogative. FEES IN COMM ON LAW COURTS. _ . On the reavewasgiven to bring in a bill to regulate the receipt of fees of oil= officers in the courts of common law, and to provide for their payment by salary. The house adjourned at a quarter put nine, until Monday. THE DIVISION OF LAST NIGHT. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Fen. 20. Rootarriew evparted—"Tbat the Chairman be directed to more the house that leave be given to bring in • bill to mind the laws re specting the local militia.° Wages made, and quest/don proposed, "That leave be 'lsm to bring in a bill to =trod the an reapectlag the toed enilitia;" -;Mr. Bernal.) Amendment proposed to ba made to the tittegtioh, b 7 hu setting after the wore "amend" the words "and eroisolaldte i ° — (Vieeount Palmerston.) Question, " That the word' ' and ciao& date,' be there inserted; put, and agreed to. Another arrtedineat proposed to be made to the question, by leaven( oat the word local:°— ( Viscount Palmerston.) Question put, "That tb' word local' stand part of the question." The berm divided—ages, 123; Nook lie. AYE& Adair, R. A. 8. Fordyce,Alezamier D. Power, tie. Alcoa, T. Forster, Matthew Power, Nicholas Aimee, Ilea. Gen. Fortercur, Chichester Prioe, sir Robert Armstrong, Bir A. Fox, William J. • Rice, Edward it. Braes lit. tin. M. T. 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Stuart' Lord lad., Clay, Jame Kenhow, James Stout, lord Joan Cloy, Sir W. Labis here, Ittllnal Tina R. A. lOalears, Sir A. J. E. Lawn, George C. 'hourly, Colebrook', Mt T. E. Lydon, lion. Geo. Trrianiy, John S. Cowper, lion. W. F. Manama, Alexander l'uliell, Rt. Hon. R. Craig, Sir William 0. blotheann, Onion' Vane, Lad liorry Crawford, W. 6. Male, It,. Hon. Fox Verney, Sir Hwy Crowder, Richard B. Nllligran, Robert Villa, John H. Dawes, Edward Milner, W. M. it. %Laey, Thomas Hiatt, Edward Minliell, T. A. Wall, Choke IL Doff, James Malys, lin. E. M. L. Weimaley, bit J. Duncan, George illowatt, Prawns Walter, John Dumas Ittllmeir D. Norreys, Lord Wiliam, John Evens, la Ile Lay Owen, Sir John WHAM, James Evans John Paget, told Clarence Wood Rt. Om Sir C. Evans, Wham Porker. John Wood, Sir Wra. Pet Swart, %%dam Peel, Valeria Timus. Fergus, John W. O. Hayter Fitzroy, Hon. Henry Prid4Froo.e Fennel, Lord Marcus Hill Foley, John H. U. Plorden, Ws. H. C. NOES. Adder*, C. B. Portatar, L. Rua. 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