The Express. — London, England, 1852-11-20 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF LORDS.—FRIOAT, Nov. 19. The Luau Cmaricattou took his seat at live o'clock. BUSINESS OF THE SESSION. TIN Margate of CLANRICARDE gave notice that be would on Monday neat ask the noble earl, the First Lord of the Treasury what business be intended to introduce before the Chrittnias resew TUE QUARANTINE LAWS.—THt CHOLERA. The Earl of ST. GERMANS rose to put some questions, of which he had gives aotice. In the last session of par liament he moved for the production of the minutes of the proceeding and of the Sanitary Conference held in Pares in 1661 , 52, to inquire intoand report on the quarantine system now in fore* throughoest Europe. The noble earl at lb* bead of the foreign department then said that he had no objection to produce the papers asked for. but he could not then lay the convention on the table. None of the paper. had since been produced, and he wished first to inquire what had caused the delay in their production ? He next wished to know whether the convention to which he re tarred bad yet been ratified ? Fur the last sixteen years • similar measure had been desired by the noble curl's pride wears, and an impression was now abroad, which he believed to be erroneous, that persona interested in the maintenance of the quarantine system had prevailed on the government to recede from the position occupied by their predecessors; and that instead of heading the onward movement, which would have swept away the :old reel *ens, they were rather inclined to maintain them. Ile wished to ask also, with reference to a statement which he had seen with deep sorrow in the morning papers, namely, that one of the West India mail steam packets, the Li Plata, had arrived at Portsmouth with some eases of yellow (ever on board, and several of which had occurred during the voyage—he wished to ask whether the vessel had been re leased from quarantine ; and, ii not, what precautions had been taken for the accommodation and reception of the an. fortunate pertous on board ? Comparing the case of the Eclair, which was as, long in quarantine, with that of the Arethuss, which in February last reached Plymouth with persons on hoard suffering from smallpox, the advantage of sending ne► venoms on allure was evident. In the latter ease they were all scut to the naval hospital, and no other case occurred afterwards, neither did say of them prove fatal. These were the question. which he had to put, and be trusted that the answer which the noble lord would be able to give would satisfy the house that the government were not clinging pertinaciously to a vexatious and expensive cyst. m, of which experience and science had dentoustranal the utter airlessness. 11. should reserve to himself the power of founding any motion on the informa tion which might be given. The Earl art MALMESBU RV said that, without sub.. scribing to the notion of the noble earl that contagion was all but Iw...table, her Majesty's government had not been less anxious than those who precoded them to bring the convention of Paris to a successful result. Ile war sorry to say that at this mom at negotiations were pending, and in consequence of that sosition of affairs he could not lay the required papers on the table. They were extremely vulu minims, and he did not think that any extracts which lie could make would be satisfactory. He had hoped that eight or ten countries would consent to sign the convention; and, although he was now afraid that might not be the case, he still trusted that before long a ven or eight of the states of Europe would agree on ibis point. At this moment some of the Italian state*, Spain, and Austria re fund to sign the convention, or they had put forsard such difficulties so could not yet be overcome. Portugal, Sar dinia, France, England, and, he believed he might say Russia, did not object to sign the convention. He hoped, therefore, before long that it would be signed by some of those powers: and be should then have great pleasure in laying the wit le correspondence and information con tained in the pipers on the subject upon the table. The Earl of LONSDALE was glad to have an opportu nity of giving the required information. As to the letter of the 2nd September, it was reported to the Council-office that malignant cholera had broken out at Lunde, and the conned had acted under the advice of einioeut physicians in issuing the letter in question. The bib George IV. gave the Customs the power to send any vessel to a quarantine station which arrived in this country with an infectious disease on board, sad the object had been to mitigate she quarantine laws. The letter referred only to persons ac tually suffering from the disease. The Quarantine Act allowed the Privy Council to give such older's' might be required; and their object in the present instance had been to mitigate the act, and only to order persons affected to remain on board. He di I not adopt the noble lord's Ilene as to the idea of contagion being old-fashioned. In 1848 the College of Physicians might have said that cholera was not infernos., but they said in 18. k) that certain eases were. Perhaps the College of Physiciins, like sow other bodies, were not very consistent. Some mew ben of the trochee' pmfession said that cholera was we contagions, hut nine-tenths of the practical men believed Ihe this day that the disease was contagious. The intelligens, with reference to the La Plata hail only reached the Mss* Ake by enteric telegraph that morning. They at seas had a consultation with their physicians, and bad gives orders that the passengers should be released. A physician had sine* gone down to obtain information and give such directions as might be necessary. The Earl of ST. GERMAN'S wished to know whether any plate had been provided for the sick en shore The Earl of LONSDALE was informed that there was • lazaretto near Portsmouth. . -.----.-. Lind STANLEY of ALDENLEY said that the physi cians at the Paris confeream were of opinion that the cho lera was not contagious, and some American physicians, I. the report published by the Board of Health, were of the elision that it was to be attributed entirely to atmospheres caws-; and he was sorry to Sad that the noSle earl, the Foreign Secretary, samatained a contrary opinion. Toe Earl of IdALNLESSUItY said that the object of the convention use not to abolish quarantine, but to make It less objectionable. If his noble friend thought that the representativ‘s of foreign states could be perssaded that cholera could not he communicated, be was deceived, and it such an attempt were made, the convention would big, signed. Some talked of contagion end others of infec too, bat the representatives of the countries he had re hired to were satisfied that the discus was cetching, and that was enough fir them. Lord WHAItNCLIFFE said the yellow fever was scarcely ever known to exist below a certain temperature, and there could be no occasion to send the vessel at Ports mouth into quarantine. 19 New Orleans the ant appear ance of frost was sure to put an end to the disease. REGULATION OF RAILWAYS. Lord REDEsDALE, t to settee, nee to ask whether it wa. th, taw•tiw of govenneat to introduce • bill for the better regulation of railways ? Boom aware our required which would amide the sokammt to War. mere is the masaltansat Of 'slimy. MOM that they mold do at t, sad than wars thew phis is which melt LarfYoesw would be metal. His asses fir drthiag sanitise se the muss arms haft the semosibility which bad bees east ea bin as chairman of sormitesse. la that dies ho bad thrially sums power over name bilk, but to 'tuba me lay Amu souk ramktioes so wee aspired. Poollomst alms mid intielhoe r atheism h esihnostisos as wove nosey: sod the somposiss meld sot eimplain Mazy general kw in the mast, es for this last IS yews them Mid bees inserted is awry railway bill a dense bill the camas, to my guerral law thatsdihe be pore& our impaailflo ger my am Wolin sigribire of those mates= to look st the maim megrim if malimatiss without oppothomies es to the that Wet arks mos soma Mgt &Ida of . Ithet sakes maim was esquiral k arise to presspablis embet the emoriemoseed dose onalgoksisith • Me dowse of soak* mold nab be olikiesd by era pascal moms. 0a mother mthe thus ought le be mos imalsoilleg suer rity, is lmhi ups* ambit Woe Mimi put es Vass. At pross,M the maim it "die the .mold their trains was, is many penmen, es fa the ocemeleem a the pabile. bet far their lassmealems. Trots wan so aastd se to imp* the pub to use osirtaia welsh they amid des othemthe do. Math km) This was car ried to at exam whisk was really • gross fraud apse parliament. Perms west by a certain kali ea me line, and at • metals point they (mad that the train which ought to be is ethathice with it sad to .any gam forward, had started five or tea siestas before they arrived. (Hear, hetr.) It wadi be so dmisoms or mpg* istathersaos with the run way omega pithimskt IMPS ilitition a IMMINIIIM as=pool, is pronmest Mud, es tin repo; s of the nhatitante of any district, se of a meth asks company, to direst that • train skald bo run a s particular line at • strait Ma, to nest smetha other ar reastatea a, and *adagios they km dm Nab to tubas it their arrunirsetents to the mine ar the booth Lord CO LC El ESTER odd *hi imam was OM Of great importance to the milk soft aM elineledians. He cured his answer Wilda as begsb ft sthillaksy Me *Mil be wished ; but be owing the km OM ass Wssekst of the depart:mat to whisk he abase boot awisusly sod sameatly divested to the TM railway do ~tatrsdtme sus* sommiolly arm of his rigid rho Poodisk of die third of Truk par. Healey). Their iaihmetion rte the timber of bilk was uricomsrUy very implant at piesset. They could ally jade by the Milos It the Gtr tin their real mother maid sot bo Mom till the line moo deposited m the 30111 of this math. Altogether, mass bad his ghat ihr 42 ldbe ; IS kr isoormeseiwg raw esr palms the ask; l 3 la sow work; d lisr assedimatisas; mod I kr gnashn of tins. The stew tiro of tho bawd had his 4111. P. le the subiest, but ho was net alto pest s Mate whether the itharaissat Wald think it wressry to boleti is way bill sash so the solar kid had se; bat * wet iselmthio that silk mi. Muses meld be Lord BRA DRlOn ale sel i te s d if the Board of Trade hid sew Waived whether, ia eatemsesse of the aamerom molthate which had happened—of cm railway remit, Ito Miss OD at sot to suit asether—.ad of the Inman, eillgeolef pane tedity—tiey would latrodnos any ma=rs of a posed mien which Mil* apply a remedy I. thus evils ? The Est of DERBY einem* that what his toile friesd had said about the author of Cl le gir what had hike fess Me ambit kid shodthe Blow. over desirable it rank; hi le Imo am ado of rembelese spaying to sal railway nannies path posers, sad to is.., sad, by saperejesee Wane rules In M lawns' samemoesat of *Amy sommies, it meld be i•Fmaiblator b 17 ped =aniest to nay sash a msoswo t ead if sat iss possible, it - v - Toia - la $ aissiiiirma lateribrame with railway oaraposim sass of whom woos Ewa better Jaime of what was boot ho the makaisms at the 'kWh that the south be, net esen still mere depable te mull ms el fora He sertsialy, dim mull me mid sat any that the gersomait would misdate to Mk • miss of regulations to prevent may ineonvenienee or accident, or whick might seriously interfere with the powers end pvivi. loges already oonfirred by parliament upon the existing companies. Experience from day . to day . skewed the ne cessity of legislation on some particular pinata ; and it was essential, as eapenenee pointed this out, that opportuaities should be takes, as hills were introduced, to amend the law in this respect, and to make such modifications se might be deemed advisable for the publie interest. The qualms of the connexion of trains on different railways was one ea which it was exceedingly desirable that some regulating power should be vested in a government board, to pr railway companies, through their mutual jealousies, from adopting a system most inconvenient to the public. (Hear, hear.) At the same time, government in terference in that matter was exceedingly difficult; and is every cam in which parliament insisted on a train being ran at a particular time, they would al-o snake themeelwes responsible for the inconvenience and danger that might result from other trains interfering with them. A great mistake was made in the earlier days of railways in not istrodaciag more stringent regulations for the conveyance of the mails and troops by railway. At present the government was absolutely and entirely in the power of every railway company as to the pecuniary terms On which they would convey the correspondence of the country. W henever sack companies came to parliament for new and amended bids, seeking to extend their powers, the opportunity ought to be taken to introduce such regu lations fur the furtherance of the public servi 70. The Post master-General bad very carefully considered the subject, and he believed had prepared tome clauses which he would submit to parliament for that object. lint he respectfully differed from the noble baron in thinking that any success would attend a general measure fur regulating railways. • The E irl of CLANRICARDE said the Burn paid fur the conveyance of the mails (100,0001. a yeas) was very exorbi tant. The Earl of HARROWBY said the Post-eMe• was not entirely at the mercy of the railways; it was open to them to have the charges submitted to arbitration. The immense hulk of the newspapers and books now conveyed by post had largely increased the duties of the Railways in that respect. The noble lord complained of the want of connec • tion between trains on the different lines. The sooner such lines were amalgamated, the better would it be for the public, as well as for the companies. Competition was a good thing where the competitors were numerous ; but in the cue of railway, gas, or water companies, it produced for a time an extravagant oppo sition, but it always ended in a fulfilment of the old saying, " Brother, broths', we are both in the wrong ;" and the result was, the competition woe merged in the cum- Meatiest, and the public had to pay all the legal sad other expenses. Amalgamation was the only proper way of deal ing with such cases, and if the legislature had from the believing carried out more fully the proposal of Lord Dal housie, and not left so much to the madness of private spe culation, it would have been much better, both for the com panies and the public at large. At present, owing to the encouragement given by parliament to rival schemes, rail way companies were compelled to make all sera of extrava gant terms with little branches and companies of different kinds; and the travelling public had ultimately to pay for this expenditure. Parliament ought rather to assign a monopoly to certain companies over a certain district, tak ing can to exercise a due control over them. (lieu.) Earl GRANVILLE said it was desirable that parliamen tary committees should be appeisted on this question. In many instances the eampasies ilhoussives would be grateful to have their disputes sealed is Ma a way. Lord BEAL7MONT did not think that a general bill affecting all railways would be any breach of faith. The companies had obtained their powers on the understanding that they should accommodate the public, and in many in stances, they neither accommodated the public, nor at tended to their safety. After a few words from the Duke of MONTROSE and Lord CoLCHNITCII, the conversation was allowed to drop. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented two peti tions airiest Convocation. THE FUNERAL OF THE LATE DUKE OF WEL- - - LINGTON. The Earl of DERBY—My Lords,—l rise to move the adjournment of the hose., for the purpose of putting my sell perfectly in order while addres s ing to your lordship. 0110 Of two observations which I am desirous of making. The subject to which I was anxious to call your attention was the expression of that deep satisfaction and sincere thankfulness which I experienced, and which I am sure your lordship• likewise felt, at the more than gab/rectory result which attended the great solemnity of yesterday. (Cheery.) My:lords, I think it is a matter of hum ble thankfuleites to Almighty God, that an event which brought tog.ther such • mar of persons as u before coogregated under any circumstances what ever, should have passed over, not only without any signal calamity. but without being attended by any, or at least very few, of these casualties to which every great gathering is PAP, and which were readered in this case the more rehab sm emontat of the hasty intoner in which many of the peeparations were made far the accommodation of that groat multitude. Iffy lords, I think I may say that, slight sew 4:lemmatises's may appear, the providential change In the weather in Me mares of yesterday. was no trifling earlibe i , net only es adding to the esmdbrt of the vast multi made, bet ales as diminishing to a pont extent the amount of risk, of esafeelles, sad imager, Phlsh all ceremonies of this kind mad needismey invehis. (Hear, hear.) My lords, it weans, meet ludo* if I Pei to withhold, and if I did, Igm sees pyeeenrr lordship wadi not withhold, the tri bute of per eimfentiaa at the whet organisatioa, the ad mirable engagements, sad the wale discipline with which that great Sineellg WWI 011161.101, the discretion soil judgment whisk h even It out was smaltested by all of theseefoill ail military—who were engaged in marshalling that pug precession. (Cheery.) 11If iside, nothing meld be mese admirable Nan the behaviour of the sad the peibe—des bees of as and troops the Ohs en dear, sway W p m hub* m ter p eador eriod et at least eleven sr waive ban, and dewing the whole of that times fa dm seed are Snaner. But, my lords, I mast net be unjust to another dem, without whose signal co-operatic mad admirable anduet—l do not say that the efforts of the military and pike would have been unavailing—but width undoubtedly rendered • task, ar duous as it must have been under any circumstances, a matter of comparative ease and facility. 1 allude to that on whisk we meet have looked with pride sad gratification— the admirable temper, patience, forbearance, and good emelset whisk were manifested by the whole of those in sesiikio =OM. (Loud cheers.) And, my lords, when we cuddle bow hap a portion of the population of the Utensil "beim we for that use day crowded la the straps air all 111110reltelie; when we remember, thous at least et us to Them Ist it fell to take • part in the proordes ; whoa we remember that throughout uwhale Itmelb (above three miles from Grayson,- plisse to St. Paul's Cathedral), there was cot • single ape espied bet of pound,. pa gassed through the living sea of fame, all tamed swells the peat spectacle—when you saw every window and house-top loaded with persons, easiews tem a lest tribute of respect to the memory of inshore greatest sea—when you saw the out ironed (dam et lest who were in the streets) remaining with undloshleg preen use for hours in a posibea ha which Illielenient wee Ws* possible, and yet hardly =wi dest temoserieg IP weakest wanes or slid you vemember themmbeiet the whole of this net mullieude the greet doesrum ebb was presened, sad the palest media= with whisk sway asebbase was esselemil to the pollee thee there we are measly desire to wham the mat spostade, ad UM there was awe et at= whisk the spleadoor et the mese hugeealt ess ibbh,while the pole a t the abuse of be mg moods pm their and MOWN esimsay to the maser ia iThish every sea ameapt thess felt the brag leas which Begliehmea low anelleined— I le met know, my ha% bow yea leeked wpm lib eamdtsatatioa ot pubis baling sad of good mese and ear, but as I pored ekes the met line I felt peed lobo IP taw esuatrymes et • people that knew so seer bow le sail esebel theses e, sad I weld set help • lope battalion beeigs visitors who did hears/ to us eal m themseivee, by being pewit at that pose assmesoial, might, ups. this essesiss, as ea that et the lat et Its& 1161, bow witness bosh to their own countries, hew eably, sad to whet an extent • pupae might he relied open, the emeogest held upon whom by their go valumeat was their ova fettlelen• and respect for the free Ibefe seie_afei sebilefrissiples of popular ulAgememasst. esatreited arid d by a soutitutiosal mearehr. Vied deems) My when we had pored that pommies, and seared that magaideent ,I th that taw who ware present, to their Mat mewed wed sew beget the mina whisk they wit nessed there. Who will ever begot the eau when lathed,.) the bog* sad bomb* Si that vast " the polies asthma swelled," sot in- I deed the " neee Si proise,r but themes et Narrow ! Who will nee beget the albs.. whoa, la ready monies male with the w itia pliliyeemsesiested to all within sixteenththat " dim salmutter," wesend oboes blast eimuleasseady rowan to the camera pager of every Chrialea ems I Owed sheers.) And, my lords desstinsuel bee aside earl Is meats blurts" with cam thy, whoa the Slims Si that *pensive seremeay ay- SlOnallei—whes, smiles 'ohm sad neseratel mule, the seta Welles tas illseteleue deed dimly eassa inde by bele, Übe he dry Nothapginee, I uses new hob, le me the mustegeasse et may voterans7=l:l ' beau the temp etem et his Meuse as& his trinmehe, le ' her the @apposing ail sal le whams the tsar whisk wield sat ban &pep& w= ma" ( Sag ' lead's bravest wurehm, as they Imbed dam tar the last time apes all that was sesetel al sea mIAto bees (l sue.) Ibmear, lealis.le • peels who se baewilow areassass the illastrions dead I Ssuesle Nos 'Waft sub= eke thus renewed bah old esammismldp is his tehemphs, sad whoa pining us k paying Oho lasi Whale et teepee" to hist wham 1N1NP1.111,1112 Mel MIRA* ae attet but worldowide,—amoslated their um amp ter rotws tut time, in the glades Si the Dube et Welligess. (Loud eiseso.) And my leek Mawr, let me say also, to be peat sad *baby eatisa, oar relations with when la tim b e= t g ea sae by t —l hest sever to retuia,—aidueally them beat partlehating is the sabseal _may with whisk we asielested - bis Mai . sl us h.% old who Ido hilitts via ye k uk. pu wasereliAli r r war ham target their eld mallard prej sad by preens, ef ask reprease wipe bedded t respect sad ?sweeties he Me memory. (Loud lessee.) If they thought of him as a be at all it wm ass( ON who had bees so in the dieriarge else duty he owed to his eeerefai, mad in whom they hal at hest "♦ hews worthy of their eel. • Mood sheen.) They night am rentember with eeeaii• what et pride that hie military Wats sad poise were aim as highly tested, as, so severely triad, as when pyaad to the Tibor of their hoops and the Ni euwe sad Mali of their ocegasadere. (Moore.) My lords, we ewe peel to 1M taste W ear illesethes maim We have seen him roosigned to the grave ; but I trait so one will forget that in our greatest hero we have buried per• hope the man unapt ge who had the greatest horror of the miseries of war. (Lead sheen.) Every mum of hie mied—in the Geld, in the sump, and la the senate—was directed, not to the attainment of vielery, or triumph, or , glory; but was ezeleised because be always looked for- ' ward to the 'Wary fur which he straggled, as the means of securing to We country the blessings of a luting pease. (Cheers.) Ky lords, in toesigning Ida to the tomb I tryst we have not taken leave of the principles which he supported, and of which he was the coosistent advocate. (Hear, hear.) I am sure that I am speaking in the spirit of him whose lees we all deplore when I my that I look upon —as I am sure your lordships will alltlook upon —war, ae such, as the greatest curse with which a country can he aMicted, and upon an unneereary war 11/ the greatest crime of whisk a statesman eon bo guilty. (Cheers.) lam sure that the great and paramount , object of this country is the maintenance of a firm and hoeourable peace ; but I am not the lees consisted of the necessity of that principle which it was the coastant duty of the Duke of Wellington to inculcate upon successive governments, namely, that in order to maintain the ems city and permagoace of peace, every nation must have within itself suer means. of self-defence and self-depend ent, as not to provoke aggression by its weakness, more especially when to that weakness is added the possession of unbounded wealth. (Loud cheers.) I trust that we shall bear this In mind, not in our words, but in our actions and in our policy ; and tattier; aside all political and all party etasiderations, that we shall concur in this opinion, namely, that in order to be peaceable England must be powerful ; and that if England ought to be powerful, ohs ought to be so only that she may be more secured in peace. (Loud cheers.) Their lordships then adjourned at a few minutes to seven. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAT, Nov. 19. The BPIALZIL took the chair shortly before four. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. TJNITERSITY TISTS.—By Mr. G. DUNCAN, ham Dun dee, against the enforcement of relistions testa on protestors of lay chairs in the Scotch universities. Rwreate roes Wm:vs.—By Mr. WALTER, from an individual in Wigton, complaining of an undue return of Sir J. M.Teggart for the borough of Wigton. PIINTING Or BILL. -137 Mr. C. BERKELEY, from Mr. Williams, a solicitor of Cheltenham, complaining of the incorrect way in which bills are printed. TURKISH LOAN. Dr. LAYARD wished te know from the noble lord, the Ilader-Secretary for Foreign Affairs, whether any infor mation bad been received with respect to the repayment of the Turkish Loan, and, if so, whether the government had say objection to lay the papers before the home. Lord STANLEY se dbe would not delny one moment to lay the papers on the table relating to this subject when they were sufficiently prepared. The facts of the case were these. The Turkish Minister at Pais had departed from the instrections 'be received, and contracted for a loan on the part of the 'Turkish government, which no judicious adviser of the Porte would have recommended it to ratify. The consequsnce was, that after a slight delay the act of the Turkish minister was disavowed, and the Porte re fused to ratify the loan. At the same time it immediately announced that it would repay the amouat of the loan which had been received, together with the interest thereon, From all the information which the government had reeeive.t. it appeared that the Turkish government were disposed to deal with the utmost fairncu, and ho traced that ihe whole matter would be speedily and satisfactorily arranged. (How, bur.) NAVIGATION LAWS. Mr. RICARDO wished to ask the President of the Board of Trade whether any despatches had been transmitted to that department from the Foreign-office, containing infor mation or statistics bearing on the working of the maritime laws of the United Kingdom, and if so, whether he would lay them on the table of the house ; also, whether tiny in quires on these subjects had been made by the Board of Trade of the British consuls, through the Foreign office ? Mr. HENLEY said, in answer to the last question, that a letter had been addressed through the Foreign-office to the British ersissals on the subject. Returns had been re ceived hum some. Only a few referred to IS.so—tbe greater somber referring to 18d1. They would not there fore abed the information which he supposed the hon. (tendons wanted, namely, information with regard to the indirect trade which hod grown up since the repeal of the navigation laws. The returns did not give many facts, but they contained opinions as to the working of the law, one giving his opinion ono way and another another way. If the hon. gentleman thought them of sufficient value to have them printed he would offer no objection. RAILWAY AMALOARAT lONS. Mr. LABOCCHERE said that, as bills referring to the amalgamation of railways, several of which were of great =, were expected to colas before the house at no ad, he wished to know whether the government MI given the subject their consideration ; sad whether tlsay would be prepared, at the proper time, to recommend Oaf meta which appeared Is them to bo best calculated to malaallss public es well aa the parties tberseelvee Ms. HENLEY aid that *s impeeterms tie subject albessed to ltio by tie neat bra isalemes mad hardly be overrated. He lea ma opyerem korrotag am= atbsee_exatemassa whims., _bops* lifst is Os Gana assissi. heat 'disk sppsuni may Yee sigma af lasids• wen massetpistod. Berm elm ask tad be the subject me be was able, mai is shinglit k would be the duty of the house, a far as be said lee Ids way. to arrant • opmeittes to inquire Into the rasa seldeet, that they ary adobe emit measures, either by tbe etseding orders er ahem les, se would meet the emeessey of the came, sad protect the public sad the par ties tbeebaree. EXAMINATION OF DIPLOMATIC AGENTS. M. EWAHT wished to know from the Under Secretary for Foreign Affair, what steps had been taken for the uses. mined= or other test of fitness of candidates for the dim matic service of tlfe estuary, and whether them would be any objection to lav a statement of the massiaatlest age& lineation required before the house : also wheelie/tow yolk Section would be required for the consular NMIs a the country ? Lord STANLEY said that when the boo. gentleman had put to him a question on this subject last year, he thrift he would he able by this time to give • definite same se to the course which the goverment Weeded lo He regretted, howsver„ that he arid set de se. CT: Torment, however, hod OM less dits Kre esl4q and to had givea it all the 110114111111141011 deerved. bad, la fact, prepared • plea, bat when it wee draws up was =ilit secaaaary or desirable that sees further ci be err with respect to the rite awashise= ateran noes Amps would layette err ismer of es 1 pislitsr—se• mar it was hat sill en reseiwo— asil ea ibis sessest II was dsieMe Or tley shield est Arm • perfumed*, ptal asuesgerent with lager M the mead issedes, it or was sit theaght deirrie lie apply rob a test as the boa. gentlemen esibrred te, as it would Weir • ample • ohmage is re wads Is whir the sea sake body err appointed. The earner bar was sew peril if military Oars, seerbeet of rot e nd per ▪ ewer is Wade, who were sieseesd ie lir, an It weak, des se youths wise had lust Mr mho& Mr. OSBORN'S wired to knew whether it was es Is. Wrier of the povismmose. as they stated het erar to mike say alterelles la the system demised slaselles, le at jester existing 4 Ire ? Led NAAS rid that be was net aware that the gram neat bad given era inheratioa that it was their interim te was any altaidisa is re errs el normal wineslies la Ireland. (Oh, eh.) He bad sew to etre rat it we set the interim of her Majesty's gonsessiell *peptic say alterable ht the present sperm, sal he bad Si~ le Mete that be word see with ersideedie yeast gay kap Arena whisk word Tern the air ay of that oyster se ia say rosy nerist the mars ef musonaleatiag burr- Use new ralto in IrelaeL Mao, hem) At the seer tire It any nor es direr e 1 re re beer dower ilt is shiest to the spasm as sew established, or prepred le improve by an emended law the existing rules, to web • propositios the geweuwt would give that amaidars don which the dileaity sad deliensy of the tab** din traded. (Raz, bear.) CONVOCATION. Sir J. V. SHELLEY wished te know if tho gown meat would allow convocation, whir he perceived we. ad journed till Fr day sea, to be teemed, sr whether it was to be adjoined in the real way. Kr. WALPOLI sold that be thee& • velearlseeland iNg bed gee air sari mailed with Negri le the sender ef - the grearawent he laspost le eestaeeita dad Is. Fere gars. The usual erste obesred with rived to awe oars wee to leave, acooedlay to law, thee AAMI, et Carrier" whether with or without the mamma of his Ineress—lett o r m ivie point sore effiresse of @pries ensvorties when the arbor bad = dis agre e- go ; gresnwest wryer isterwed la tads warllll, air seri gerearra larders is It tarn the liereseethe wows was tegaleed seder to permit theta in are amass so eelletsre, se le is suntrap _sitting tea sash i a n cs He wiry re geresenant bad se power at till grelies weld set err till the Wirer re• IIIIMII•ii, sad It wee set easwered yea. He hal only farther to say what his &lamas *mita in the *shier was, sad to were the hes. crilares dm is =i:l h :be h eld indase blue the beer ° l i n 'lad isg s P tC sae to gnat • Ikea.' to annessilled to make areas sad laws. CABS OF /M. ZDWLRD MURRAY. Lard D. STUART pave reties that es Illonsisy next lie would present a petition peeping fee the laterirerease of the governseat is the 12Ir! 0f .. 1 . 11y. Mae mr. X. *arm. COUNTY FRANCHISE. Mr. L. KING gave satin tbst es the 2a4 of December wesl4 more for lams I. Woe la a WI ter the mbar tkr of the isuty and the bereesh SCOTCH SHERIFFS' COURTS. Mr. CHARTBRIB save nodal that he would on se earl, da note for leave to taring is s bill to oxtaad the jarisd of the Sheriffs' &sail Debts Coe:lsla Beedasd. BOROUGH FRANCHISE. Sir DE L. EVANS postponed his notice relative to the paymeat of Hotta's taxes is coonezioa wit► the franchise tai the Sad of Deosuiber. MR. VILLIERBILM . OTI_G!. 7 !fCTICE OF THE GOVERNMENT. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER pee the adbariar Mao of dadadawat at the mein of Mr. ~rls dad Ow Tuesday —"Tat UN boom with satharlisa Slat for eldeapaus of pa ateddioarl b y moat ididiatiea. las airMy aatilaind as improve the mmilitim oml imermori the MIMS di Ida waking dares, sad that lanatrioad competition having bean adopted after duo deliberation as the principle of our commercial system, the house is of opinion that It is the duty of the government unreservedly to adhere I. that policy In those measures of financial end administrative reform which ender the cir cumstances of the country they may deem it their ditty to introduce." (Cheers.) THE CAPE. Lord J. RUSSELL si - sirttedic;know from the Secretary of State for the Colonies veal was the nature and cha racter of the recent intelligence from the Cape of Good Hope, and whether dissatisfaction had not been felt at the non-arrival of the recent constitution at the Cape ? Sir J. PAK 'ROTOR said that in sewer to the question pat to him by the noble lord, he wee happy to say that the recent arrival from the Cape very much, if it did not en tirely confirm the favourable views which he held out at the comtneneement of the cession. Re thought the best thing he could do to put the house in posiession of the present state of affairs in the Cape, would he to read an cataract from the despatch of General Cathcart. General Catboat mays I might now almost report that the war is at en end ; but although characterised so a wee, it has been in fact a rebellion. A war may be terminated by the I surrender or capitulation of the hostile sovereign or chief, who answers for his people; but In the suppression of • rebellion, the refractory subjects of the ruling power must all be chastised and subdued. This has nearly been amens plished, and military occupation must keep them in sub jection ; but as it is difficult to define the origin or nature of this war, if it be considered as a war, so it is difficult to I define the time when peace may be considered to be re stored." In confirmation of this statement, he might men tion that telecom°, the principal Kaffir chief in opposition to the crown, had been expelled from tho Waterkloof, and was nnw wandering about with only a few followers. The second Kaffir thief was driven out of the Amami's, and that gallant officer, Colonel Eyre, was in pursuit of hits. Sandilli, the third chief, was still in the Amatolas, but his followers were so reduced that the last accounts did not refer to him at all. Ile did not thick therefore that he was too san guine in his anticipation that the war would soon be at an end. —ln answer to the second question, namely, the dissatisfac tion felt at the Cape in consequence of the non-arrival of the constitution, the subject was one of so much importance both to this country and to the colony, that he hoped the house would indulge bins if he entered at some length into it, in order to explain the conduct of the government and their reasons for such conduct. It was true that up to the present time the government did not deem it to be their duty to confirm the constitution, and in saying that he must °Nene that they felt extreme regret at being obliged to take that course. The government had shown by their conduct with regard to the Australian colonies, that they were not indisposed to entrust to their colonies free ' institutions and the power of self-government to which Englishmen were accustomed, and to which they were fairly entitled. Ile was most anxious to see those principles extended to the Cape; and the questiou of granting that colony these tree institutions mast be regarded as only one I of time. But, at the same time, considering the ficen'iar position of the Cape and that great changes had I taken place since there free institutions were proposed and decided upsn, it was • question on which the government should exercise great caution and deliberation. Lord J. RUSSELL wished to know whether the opinion of the Attorney-General at the Cep° respecting Lord Grey's ordinance had been confirmed by the law officers of the crown here, whether there was not a power given In the ordinance of last year to alter the original ordinance, and lastly 'limber he would lay the papers on this subject on the table. Sir J. PAKINGTON amid that he had not taken the !moat opinion of the law officers of the crown, but he sub mitted the matter to one of the moat eminent lawyers in this country, and his opinion confirmed the construction of the Attorney-General of the colony. With regard to tho second question it was true that the ordinance did con tain a power of alteration, hut all the information they re ceived showed that till they obtained further statistics) knowledge it would not be advisable to permit the exorcise of that power. With r, garil to the third question he begged to say that the government had no objshtion to lay the pap , ers on the table. (Hear, hear.) CONSOLIDATED ANNUITIES (IRELAND.) Mr. SEYMOUR FITZGERALD wished to oak the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether it way his intention to propose any measure to this hou.e, in pursuance of the recommendation of the Lords' Coutm;ttee on the Consoli dated Annuities in Ireland. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said if he had en ispportunity of Is} lug before the house the financial measures proposed by the government he should have men lion to advert to the subject. Ile hoped his hon. friend would allow him to reserve their opinions, since, if he had not the opportunity, his opinion upon the subject would be of little moment. BATTERY IN THE THAMES. Mr. W. M. SM ITH said, hefire ho proceeded to give a notice, he wished to put a question to his hon friend the Clerk to the Baud of Ordnance. A battery below Graves end having for a long period been in a very imperfect state, he wished to know whether it was the intention of the Board of Ordnance to make soy further outlay upon it ? Colonel DUNNE said the Ilo;att, ry wu constructed about five year ago, with all the preeautious which at the time were thought necessary. As it was buil., however, in the marshes below Gravesend, where it was well situated for the defence of the river, the platform sunk, and the founda tions became too low. As soon as the foundations had isttied. die repairs would take place, and the fortifications would be rendered secure. In reply to a inttier question from the same hon. member, Colonel DUNNE said 12,2001. was the amount which the battery bad cost. QUARANTINE. Viscount PALMERSTON said he wished to ask the President of the Board of Teade—lf he wee there, and if net, any other member of the government —a question, of which he apologised for not having given notice, but, es it related to a system as well as a particular case, he was sure the house would excuse him for asking it without further de lay. He saw in the papers of that morning that a vessel had arrived at Southampton frczn 'he West Indies, onboard of which were persons who had yellow rover ; and it was stated that that ship would be removed to another place for quarantine, daring which none of thous on board would be allowed to land till they were all either dead or cured. (Laughter.) He wished to know whether soy new system, such as that recommended by those who had the quarantine lees under their coosideratien,. was to be adopted in this country? "blither the crew would be removed from the in fected vessel—those who were sick being placed under proper medical superintendence, and those who were well being allowed to proceed to tear destination? and whether steps would he taken to purify the vessel according to the most approved methods adopted in such cases ? Mr. HENLEY said the noble lord was perhaps unaware that this was a matter which did not come under the im mediate control or notice of the Board of Trade. It rested, he believed, with the Colonial-off Ice, which, though it was under the same roof as the Board of Trade, was not in any way under his direction. However he wou ld take the noble lord's questionifor a notice, and inquire of the authori ties what steps were to be taken. THE TREATMENT OF MR. PAGET AT DRESDEN. Mr. M. MILNES said on Monday next he would put a question to the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs respecting the seizure and inspection of the private papers of Mr. Paget, an English gentleman melding at Dresden, by the Austrian police, acting in Simony, ant by the Salon government itself. tios. At the mile time he quite agreed in whet had fallen from the bon. baronet on the other side. lie did think that the petitioners were hound to give the right h•in. gen• Semen (Major Beresford) an opportunity of vindicating himself from the charges which had been brought against him • and he hoped, therefore, that the petition having failed through the informality which had been pointed out, those who presented it would not fail to come before the house again without delay. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was anneecstary for him to add a word to what had been said by his hon. and learned friend. Ile merel) nee to say that he thought it would be inexpedient to set against a regula tion ot the house on such an important subject 'There would, he thought, be no difficulty in devising some means of,having a speedy inquiry, which it must be the object of every gentleman on each side of the house to secure. Sir A. Cockburn's motion was then withdrawn. AMENDMENT 07 TI!N COMMON ,LAW IN IRE- LAND. Mr. WHITESIDE moved for leave to bring in a bill to amend the procedure In the superior courts of common law in Ireland. The hon. member said the object of the bill, as stated in the preamble, was to make the practice and proceedings in the superior courts of .amnion law leas dila tory and expensive, to prevent substantial justice from being defeated, and to enable common law courts to giro effect to certain rights without a resort to the e'en. or equity. The necessity for such a reformation was obvious sod pressing. The house was aware that in the county courts the question at issue between the parties was brought to a hearing upon a short and simple claim. Fur different was the course of proceeding in the superior courts. First, there was • writ, which told the defendant nothing ; next, there was an appearance by the defendant, which told the plaintiff nothing; thirdly, there was • declaration, or ex position of the CRUM of action, which confused the case; then there was the plea, which in Ireland was generally as vague as the declaration; and amongst other subsequent proceedings was the demurrer, which had the effect o f hanging up the suit," as it was termed, for • twelve. month. fhe record, too, ran to a most inconvenient and expensive length, and was scarcely ever referred to except when counsel wanted to trip up his opponent en some tech nical point. His object in introducing this measure was to remove these abases. With this view he proposed to =eke the superior courts resemble as nearly as possible the county courts, in giving justice cheaply and promptly. What he had founded the measure upon was the County Court Act for England, the County Court Act for [retied, the act for the regulation of civil procedure in Scotland, the report of the commissioners which led to the recent improvements in England, the bill passed for England in the last session, he was not afraid to add the Americas eode, and the report of the commissionen on the best mode of reforming the prac. tice of the courts of law. The first great point of reform was to abolish all distinctions in the (ono of action.. There were eight or nine different forms, and this variety often prevented the attainment of justice. The next proposal was to abolish what was termed ape. ial pleading. II wish, it to have both the ground of action and the ground of defence distinctly stated, so as to be intelligible to every man. For this purpose there were given in the draft of the hill forms of comp:aint and answer, and he was indebted to the report of the commissioners for precedents as precise as the English language could make them. The writ and the declaration, the appearance and the defence, he proposed to consolidate into two forms, which would be amply sufficient for the purpose. The learned gentleman having quoted some American au thorities in confirmation of his views, proceeded to say that the object of the bill was to simplify proceedings and to sweep away the technicalities of special pleading by obliging the suitor to verify his pleading by peesonel declaration. Another object was to extend to the superior law courts the power pawned by the equity end county courts, of find ing service of eabpwna at domicile sufficient, instead of re quiring personal service, as at present. Another attempt ' at simplification was contemplated with respect to assign ments of bonds, on which at present no action for recovery could be taken, except in • Court of Equity. It was pro posed in this case to make them recoverable by action at common law. Another case of hardship was when a bill of exchange or bond was lost. Under the present system there was no remedy except in 'equity; but he proposed to give the courts of law all the powers of courts of equity in deciding the amount of indemnity to lie given for lost instru ments. Another case was that of a man holding hied by contract, but without any legal titie. Such cues were common in Ireland, and the landlord might eject at com mon law, although the tenant had a perfect and good de fence in equity, and could force bin landlord to give him a lease instead of an agreement. At present the count courts in Ireland could protect the te n ant i n suc h cases, and their decision would be confirmed on appeal to the superior courts. He proposed to give the superior courts the same power ie the first instance, the power that they now enjoyed on appeal. In other cacti, where permission was required from the Court of Equity to carry a case into the queen's Bench, he proposed to give the latter court coccurrent and common jurisdiction. lie also proposed to extend the power poseused by Equity Courts of protecting a man from vexatious litigation, by a perpetual injunction to the Common Law Courts. Such were the principal provisions of the bill,which he was happy to say had received the approval of the Lord Chancellor of Ireland. The hon. and learned gentleman concluded by moving for leave to bring in the bill. Mr. HUME offered his thanks to the right hon. and learned gentleman for the onerous task be had undertaken. The only surprise he felt was, that emit evils as the right hon. and learned gentleman had detailed should have been allowed to exist so long. Reform in the law wee equiva lent to s reduction of taxation, for there was nothing en tailed so heavy • tax en the people as vexatious litigation. (Hear, bear.) Ile wished the government every success in this direction, as he tlt convinced that law reforms would confer the most extended and lasting benefits on the coun try.—Leave given. CALL OF THE HOUSE. Mr. HUME said that the subject to which he was now about to call the attention of the house was one of consi derable importance, and as there were many members in the house who had not been present when it was considered before, he would state the object he bad in view in making his motion. He knew it would probably occasion some trouble and inconvenience to hon. members, but the time had come when the duties of parliament must be attended to. When a member died, the first proposition was that the house should be made coliplete, and the next was that the new member should attend and do his duty. It was most important that they should have a full house on the present occasion, because the question about to be discussed was one of the most vital importance to the country. (Hear, hear.) The question was one of the most vital importance, and was, besides, one upon which the governme n t h a d formed no decided opinion. ("Oh, oh !" from the Trea sury benches.) The hon. member having read the passage ' in the queen s speech relative to " unrestricted competi tion," in confirmation of his views, said that at least her' Majesty had placed the question before parliament, and it was on that ground that he thought they should have a full house for its deliberation. He found in Mr. Erskine May's book on "The Practice of the British Parliament "—a book which be thought ought to be printed at the expense of the house and a copy presented to every member—a copious list of precedents for calls of the house. The author having laid it down as the practice of parliament to call over the house ea occasions of important debates, stated that such calls had occurred 43 times from 1820 to 1830, three being for the morrow and the rest for various times, the longest being six weeks. lion. gentlemen who were unacquainted with the rules in this, sa in all other respects, would always obtain every information from tho Speaker, to whose courtesy they were all indebted. (Hear, hear.) The principle understood as to their sittings was that the hens* should be full of members, that was that they should ' all be in attendance at every debate; that, of course, could not always take place, and it was only on important ques tions that it was neeemary to enforce the rule. That was precisely the point on which he made the motion, for on a question such as that to be brought forward on Tuesday by his hon. friend the member for Wolverhampton, it was due to the constituent body of the country—(amongst whom great doubts existed as to whether members who had ob tained their seats by the profession of certain principles in tended to adhere to them)that it should be known and decided, once for all, whether free trade or protection was henceforth to prevail. On the settlement of a question so vital to the interests of the country, and which, he thought, had been unfortunately too l ong delayed—(bear, bear)—the greatest possible number of members ought to be present. Ho proposed the call ler Monday instead of Tuesday, in order that the debate might not be delayed u it would be were the call made on the same evening as the motion, and the decision thus post poned beyond that night. He would suggest that if his motion were seceded to, the call should be made on Mon day, and those members who did not answer would have notice toattend on the Tuesday, and if they did not they would be taken into custody by the Sergeant at Arms. (Laughter.) Of eoune in the thee of any member who could not be present it would be sufficient if some other member, who was aware of the circumstances, stated the reasons of his absence, and the house would doubtless show the same indulgence which, on similar occasions, it was always in the habit of extend ' log. What he was anxious for was, that as far as possible no individual member should be excused front declaring by his vote his opinion on the vitally important question to be brought forward by his hon. friend. (Hear, bear.) The question having been seconded and put from the 'hair, Mr. R. PALMER after remarking that as a regular at tendant of the house, it was a matter of indifference to him personally whether the motion for the "call" wore carried or not, suggested that a call for Monday could not possibly ensure the attendance of members on Tuesday. All that could be enforced was the presence of member' at the time when their names were called over ; there was no power to compel them to remain during the debate or to vote, and was it worth while, therefore, to put those who were absent in distant parts of the country to the expense and inconve nience of earning to town for such a purpose ? (Hear.) Mr. HUME—AII he wanted was to ensure the presence of members that they might record their opinions if they chose to do so; if they were then absent from the division, that was a matter about which they must afterwards account to t heirconstituents. Mr. EWART thought the probability was, that if a member answered to his name on Monday he would be present on Tuesday at the division. lichees was no practi cal object to be obtained by •call of the house, he could not understand why the house had provided for it. Lord BERNARD considered that sufficient time would not be given between the motion and the call. It would be most unjust to members now in Ireland or in other parts of the country to impose a call of the house on so short a notice. Mr. CARTER supported the motion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would call the attention of hia hon. friend (Mr. Hume) to the fast that Mr. Erskine May, to whose authority he had referred, end to whom they were all so mach indebted, obeerred, thbat if it were really intended to enforce a c a n . ' not luu than a week or ten days should eiap.e hitwccs the motion and the calling over the names." (Hear, h ear.) And he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) thought that when it was deeided a call should be made it was only fair , that ample time should be allowed far members who were I absent from town to attend. (Hear, heir.) Still, as a gene. rat rule, lie should be sorry to oppose a motion of the sort, snit from whit be gathered from the feeling of the house. that it was disposed to regard the motion of the hon. mem ber fur Wolverhampton as more or less a vote of confidence or no confidence in ministers, he should be glad as far ea he could to give any member the opoortunity of 'arresting his opinion upon it. Ile certainly should not Mew if there fore oppose the motion of the hon. member. (them e .) Mr. Serjeant SIIEE knew of two or three Irish mere. tiers who were now in the southern and western parts of Ireland, not expecting any question which would occasion difference of opinion to arise before Christmas, and it would be very held on them to be taken into the euatody of the Sergeant-at.Arnas fur non-attendance. Lord J. RUSSELL must own that it would hove bees better had the hon. member for Montrose given notice of moving for a call of the house immediately atter the motion of the hon. gentleman the member for Wolvi champion use pl lied on the paper. thlr. Hume here observed that he bad dune so on the next day.) Certainly, as it was, th e untie., was too short. (lieu, hear.) But according to the practice, u he had always seen it, when the house was celled over, and any valid excuse was offered —such as that the member was in a distant part of the country, and c ou ld not be present in time, it had always b een n . ee.viti and admitted. Be supposed the same course should be pursued in this instance—(icar), sod iu that eau he del not we any objection to the motion. At the same time he tout observe Vitt, for himself, he saw no great advantage in a call of the house; but as it had been the practice to move a call on previous important occasions, and as he consider.' the ques tion about to be brought forward by his boo. friend (Mr. Villiers) of the highest importance—viz., the question whe. they free trade klaould cunt la ue to he followed as the policy of the country and web ction finally renouneeii-1.• No, no ")—or whether protection s h ou ld b e renouliced idol fr ee trade finally adopted —he should support the motion. (Cheer...) Tho house then divided— For the motioa Against it The motion was accordinaly creed. The other orders were then disposed of, :Led the Mime adj .urned at' 0 minutes past 7 o'clock. ervregz. THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 20, 1852. MAJOR DERESFORD AND THE DERBY ELECTION. ___ The SPEAKER said, before the hon. and learned gentle man (Sir A. Cockburn) brought forward the motion of which he had given DOWN,, he thought it his duty to invite the attention of the house to what he considered an infor mality in the petition; and perhaps after he had done so the house would be of opinion that the debate should not be proceeded with. He wished, in the first place, to call the attention of the house to a clause in the 11th and 12th of Victoria, which stated what should he deemed en election pet"tion. The clause was—" And be it ennelei Nat every petition presented to the House of Common within the time, from time to time limited by the how*, for receiving election petitions complaining of an undue election return I of any member of parliament, or complaining in respect of nutters in any such return, which petition shall be signed by any person who hes voted or had • right to vote at the election, shall be deemed an election petition." Now, this petition began by saying, " Your petitioners are electors of the borough of Derby, and voted at the last election of membent to serve in parliament for that bo. rough." Thee there was this allegation, "That the return of the said Thomas Berry Honfall wu secured by Illegal and corrupt means, sad by an organised system of bribery, which was resorted to and uniecesefully varied oat for the purpose of securing his return.' The prayer of the petition was, "Your petitioners, there fore, humbly p ra y . your hon. house to institute a full and seeeelsani inquiry into the allegations of this petition." Now, the quake was whether the allegation, " that the re. turn orthenakiThemes Berry Iforsfall was secured by Moral and corm* meswe, and by an organised system of bribery, which mu reserted to and successfully carried out for the purpose of procuring, and which did procure the said re. tarn, ' ought not to be considered an allegation complain ing of an undue return ? Sir A. COCKBURN said as he understood the Speaker to entertain a strong opinion upon the point which he had mentioned to the house, he innately was not inclined to straggle against that opinion. It struck him that, inasmuch as the prayer of the petition did not pray the house to void the return, and inasmuch as the bribery alleged was not stated to have been committed either by th e si tting member or by any person for whose acts the sitting mem ber would be reepoesible ; it struck him that ander these circum ' stances the petition did not emu within the words of the I clause. At the ume time thought it would be a pity for the time of the house to be taken up with• discussion, if the Speaker considered the petition informal, and he would therefore withdraw his motion. _ _ — Sir J. Y. BULLER said, ea behalf of his right hon. friend the Secretary at Wee, he beepad to say that he was quite preimred to go into his ease sew, ashes the Speaker was of opinion that the petition as& oft le be entertained. He had no wish that the imam amid set proceed. The SPEAKER said if tlio beau allowed the debate to proceed on this petition, it Wadi really have received a petition which it ought net to ban suseived at all. The act stated that no eleWsia pow* elweild be received by the house unless it wend eereed by the dicer of recount. maces, with a statement that the reseraieeneee had horn properly entered. If this Mlles ISM within the defini tion of the act relating to Waage petitions, it ought to hare been endorsed by dr elbow of neognisences before it was considered by the 11011190, and as it had not been wi dened he did not think it ought to be received. Sir A. COCKBURN said—This being the Speaker's view, be bad i.o wish, as he aid before, to struggle against it; and he low, thoracic', prepared to withdraw hie MICI• . TO CORRESPONDENTS. .eoretel rAbloa of " The Expreea," ecntaiataaThe am, ,„,,, e . Cazet4 ,^ I. publiabed Seely Tutolay aad PreL.y ate; ;Ai ., ror snot. •,etteanaretx Intender! for " The V.xpre•a,^lon Jen E.t.a, ri m oafe at the ()th, 10, Vooreote-strael, Trim fiehreig oa the lay pulaieatioa.ee HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGg Teri DAT —Morn trig. 94 Im Tarceeacw—Mornler,loe. Murree...4 9 . :l e , Micmac, iuo. Saw LONDON, .9.1 TURD 4 T, NOVEMBER 20. a new deeper in T h, itE;o o r f ies eva n d a i v u e g re th so u lvi r t er d u on ed t g ry n in u g t. the motion. Mr. Distteet I has given notice that he will more a mock free-trade amendment. To have met the proposal of the Opposition with a direct negative would have been to insure summary discomfiture. To have moved "the previous question " would have ! served his purpose very little better. Deception is the right hon. gentleman's .Arte, and he h as accord ingly determined to try whether another cheat might not be made the means of rescuing him and his comrades from their desperate condition. Bankrupt in political character, he offers to accept in blank fur the future, provided the past is wiped out and forgotten. Free Trade is established in the mind of tho nation beyond the power of himself or his acc om pli ces to s h ake it. Ile therefore proposes to admit the tact. and to say that he does not meditate its overthrow. But we all know that already. What we want is, not an admission that we have a cheap loaf, and that we are likely to hold it fast, but that it was " wise, just, and beneficial" to give it to us, as Pete. did, unconditionally, in 1846, and that we will not sub. mit now to be swindled into paying any equivalent or compensation whatsoever for that free and right. ful gain. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER now adopts an insidious tone of penitent sincerity; ostentatiously tramples down the lingering hopes of the trusting TitoLLOrE and the too credulous Cttelsreeitea ;—laugbit openly at the believing BALL,—and quizzes the impenetrability of NEWDE GATE., who can't be trained to stand tire, no matter how blank the cartridge, but shies, and bolts, and snorts most fearfully when driven along any road but the old impassable one he was on ce accustome d to travel. Mr. thsaaett goes even a step further, and with an air of matchless hypocrisy he offs rs pub. liely to expostulate with the Member fur Wolver- hampton on the superfluous character of his intended motion. He would fain contrive by some species of implication to intimate that on the general principle Mr. VILLIERS and ho are thoroughly agreed. But the juggle will bring him as little credit as he has gained by his original WeettenvoN Oration. He and the Tories wish to tiny that Free Trude is to be accepted for the present—because they cannot reverse it ; but they will not with Mr. ViLtieets admit it to be, " right and just." The trick in the present case is indeed sufficiently palpable. Class prohibition is to be given up in order to make way for class rzoncration. The owners of the soil cannot get back monopoly prices to prop up exorbitant rents, but Lord Mune and Mr. DisRAELI promise to shuffle the taxes in such a way as to exempt them from many of their present kilt liabilities, and thus "to mitigate the injury they have suffered from Free Trade." The 51. note of pro. tection is gone ; but the WO shillings of compensa tion will answer the same end, if the oligarchs can only get Parliament to declare them entitled to it, and coerce or cajole the people into paying it. For out of the hard-working people's pockets the 100 shillings, in ono shape or other, must conic. If wo aro to buy the quartern loaf at sixpenee instead of a shilling, as we were once compelled by a corn law to do, the landlords assert that they are just so much the poorer. They are injured, ae iguratootuhre u l h k ii r d b re y i n te eu th r eo ; a ty n , d t f o ur th r a h t in an i j o u u r n y t w et; nee wrd every t o . pay them tun compensation. If we don't pay in mad, they will have it out of us in malt, or poor rates transferred, or an extended income tax, or an augmented house tax, or in any or all of the number. less ways in which the genius of fiscal exaction is abletowrin n g a m tio i n llions of money every year from an industrious It is against this new form of landlord extortion that Mr. VILLIERS'S Free Trade resolution is espe cially directed. To protest against l'rote tin is to beat the air. Protection has become mat ter of history. Tho Liberal party might as well be called upon to protest against a revival of the Star Chamber or the attempt to levy ship money. Mr. Disitast.i would desire no better theme for his free and easy ridicule; for it would precisely afford hint the opportunity he dares not venture to make, for smothering with ell manner of spiteful jokes and malicious pleasantries, those unfortunate dupes—the Protectionists-0a whose shoulders ho has been allowed to scram ble up to power, and who stupidly pers . .st is waiting under the windows to be paid for the job. lie has told them several times already to b e gone, that he does not want them any further, and that he has nothing fur them—poor men. But they don't move, and he hesitates to call in PEEL'S police. Should that force, how ever, in the course of its rounds, happen to tome in the way, nobody would be more gratified or grateful than the beleaguered political burglar, whet safe and snug inside, wants to get rid of his assistants. Policemanship is a very useful and profitable em ployment no doubt for those that like it, hut it is not the fitting business of Liberal members of Parliament, and we trust that none will he found ready or willing to neglect his proper function and duty—that, namely, of defending the community I against the swindling schemes of twee/ exaction wherewith they are menaced 'by a 'fury admirustr,- tion, in order to accommodate Mr. DISRAELI in 1111 new and uneasy position, or to facilitate the forma tion of new and discreditable combinations. rho course of the Liberal party is plain. Let them unanimously and unhesitatingly adopt the roe' lotion proposed by Mr. VILLIERS. That resole tion will place an insuperable barrier in the way of those bubble-budgets declared to be capable of compensating the owners of rack-rents for what they have lost, without doing 01 harm to the rest of the community. 1 . 101 " ever wrapt in fine language, and varnished with just-sounding names, wo know that any scheme for what is called the re-distribution of burdens malt