The Express. — London, England, 1847-12-14 00:00:00

swat to the ratio ti HIPPO to the square mile, while that of Liana was only 10,000 to the square mile. The lila dwelt within the fifth part of a Nam nelloAta andel 14,000 souk (Okay as wives end Mega el men empieg el I* the melee of disk maniey), wildly digitate of =llestresties. Time waa me yemeshial chords or ead only two wheat dice esale. They were also eN legged ediesi. Their olds epos the leghlatnee ttae kw ping inipmativir. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said 1110 a. bed Woe- Om tithe governewnat should be Olin to wheat. It was, doubtless, lamentable that ask a Mak eltfiggFbeelii la m ;bat he saw hie ean et isikeing imam IWea liaentary grant, , et imeres, meld only be by Inquiry. EMIGRATION. Lord MONTEAGLE inquired whether any information bad been received from the governors of our different colo- Mee on this subject ; and, if so, whether there waa any ob jection to lay it on the table Of the house ? Earl GREY mid that a great mass of irdermation had been received, which he hoped to be able to preeent to their lordships before the adjournment. Lord BROUGHAM postponed to Mmerrow (this day) the presentation of the patinas from Matthew Andersen, of which he had given notice. CRIME AND OUTRAGE (IRELAND) BILL. Messengers from the Commons brought up this bill, which, on the motion of Lord Campbell, was read a first time and ordered to be reprinted. The Marquis of Lans downe being absent, the day for the second resdi was not laid. Their lordships adjourned at a quarter-past eight. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MoNnAy, Dec. 13. The Brnacsn took the chair at four o'clock. PUBLIC MINER& PRITITORIL—By Mr. WAILLtf tam limber? ,• J, wawa. from Nubians • Kr. C. Lurie, from Wersraler; Kr. =Aar lebribris of Lawton ; Lard Mawr. bola • Itsorser, ken Or Oild et Lurks; Led D. C Intro rase. Re ben Weekelirris brig bre tbe errs et es4l.k ONL LW" toes Wereirreldre; Woomera , . boa heel Diserdre. spirt Se sirloins ef .1 is prillaroi. Ir. Burr, ter Criselmoll; Mr. Wars. Sea In taw 4 dee erenier et stet TWO sod to re Arm The let et dawsort. bon place sr dr Slurs Or Clirdlrle Truro NIL Kr. Furrrea 4.6. l Ore re MEd. la knee at Ws Port el Gamy as Mirar 111 r. Roar fres Von Dissosre Lark ageter tio.ronsei metre lessrperetbs. mal esergadrard el Ile red len la Ore mkt lir ins MT, g i o o dlor wrok7 at =llar iga rtTsose.Va e ner know s/ Ire ai 14 Dram bon Warw. lbws etesepraremers erl aidabi asualirer aims IMISII4 Ole Ilisirbsior adorn =rofferkbard eisibiter bard= Is Ore NV: re mom re slikety deviled s MOs merger fad L e r m er lil WM= 4 the pra ehr ti Ark end far oirelkar ed" edil a rj adb. the purr lob Melillo len Pamir. r i erast am is=ftlitte gt puritlullars marls from libeehen Kr. wAsurnitem a ern ger et Or atm= eordlelord et the bierieft et the la. INNININI, km the shinro etre Crows Mb aresesseOrepeny, ream Ilre Y. eespar hod boss =waled Os Iron lire la Ire. Br a. bet doers nicht siaristet Or Iles.Pli.Lbed. whose Ms wee Irma Br Mat. they hal ilelereroll or Os Sore any lion bs =iera the kw pee Ora en Sera * tear Wrunty In lha mooder was rearm; tem N. Mrs Pot eo. dais sagliftg ere ilekedoe OW et lharegramealisw. mire rtg tus in ste the mot et Ike aserm. BE—Patera Wafts MOM) NIL TRIRD Ma DIN G.—Odona and Owlenec (frolchd) Bill• SWUM Ohl:AlM—Oa N. maga of Mr. Beressret— doseres et oil, Arr. est row Mr 4re rim, erre lie Met kat Os kid 57...111 . 111.10 Deember, =the rim. arse of gni wise et Grit diem& away esbeellA r Woe es orb yew sr fir slide =as stems orl Weer era oder byre Ore el kr .llm—illsioni N. simaffr 1111164imer, amber ~amiss Admen 10 N. Irked Orem. loriesed. owl midis, boa Uµ to promat warfel.— Boonme--Rdeara of Nadiagas min k the winter! or r l essierrer el swat N. kellho Mrs of Ind* with the amount of ealeregoil aale • NOTICES OF 11.-41oesamainer or los Imer-I.ord Jeer Baru. r YM* leer. So woe She olgoeneeent at the boor VI rebid et "ma=ws Dem. ea wady der, to ask fae e fir of Ise 11l mire bid age wham r awe. =L ie am per at goer e.faol awl ea epeeist mast the harem wl& oaallbl is be Erbi— l/4r leoeuro. treesneve OW or) to Or vire mesa of peer Mr hod iledoi In the walk el librresiber. Urn AM wheeler the pwernmant gin emelloyment lofts alio.ballei pox. whore a onlialega =mat at rate hid sot bees Mod far their wwwert. IiiIIRERS SWORN IN. Mr. C. W. WYNN, and another hon. member, took the oaths. NEW WRIT. On the motion of Lord D. STUART, a new writ win ordered to be issued for the borough of Tummy* for the election of a member in the place of the Right Hon. W. Tater Peel, who boo aooepted the oKre of reward of this Chiltern hundreds. —_ITED ELECTIONS. The SPEAKER informed the house that the sureties for prosecuting petitions against the return of members for the western division of the county of Gloucester, and for the 'boroughs of Kinsale, Abingdon, Reading, and Lyme Regis, were unobjectionable. PROTEST OF THE BISHOPS AGAINST THE APPOINTMENT OF DR. HAMPDEN. Mr. C. LUSIIINGTON begged to ask a question of the stable lord at the head of the government. A osnespoodence had appeared in the newepapere of that day, which con tained a letter bearing the signature of several right rev. prelates of the church, end which, apparently, interfered with the greet prerogative of her Majesty as head of the Munch ; and it also contained a lett: o r in ting to he writ ten in reply by the noble lord. He to ask if those letters were authentic, and were y ascribed to both parties ? Lord J. RUSSELL binged to my that theletter in que ton and his answer were emeeerly given. He did not dirge their insertion in the peg bat they were correct. DEFENCIp OI THE COUNTRY. . Lord J. RUSSELL mid tat the hon. member for Middle sex had a notice of seeds* en the paper for which no day was fixed, relatimg to the aim oldie ;emery. After the recess he (Lard J. lateell) premed, on the pert of the go 'verament, a enter bee a Matesene of what had been done and what was intended M be done in that respect; and he thought thit seek a gentian bad better be brought forward by some member glebe government than by an independent member. It the Ma. member was not satisfied with his (Lord J. Ussesirs) MMement, it was still open to him to make a modem ea the wheat. He wished to ask the hon. easenki. to &Mt Ms melba mail after he (Lord J. Russell) had made his shatemsee • Mr. B. OSBORNE mid that after the statement of the noble lord he should not have the slightest hesitation in pcetponing his motion. (Hear, hear.) CASE OF LUCY WILLIAMS. Oaths motion of Mr. WAILLIT. the petition of Lucy ted 10th December, was ordered to be 1~ the votes. e • WEST GLOUCESTERSHIRE ELECTION. IL MARLEY moved that the petition of certain electors ..111 al western division of Gloucestershire, presented 10th .11eassiksz, be plead with the votes, and gave notice that • lembeali Mho =Ma m the subject. • Gaga . BINKBLIT mil that he could not help viewing IllipsaMon atmwet Oloseestershire with suspicion, as it ; Wham entreated to estranger. He did not wish to inter • iiewritli its big getated with the votes, but on the part • edameble lord be lbw, it referred, he egnid to say that • ^lr labia lord did ma her say investigation of his conduct, slim es • peer or lord lieutenant of the county, and if the • bran riled an inquiry, he could have se possible.ebjec tea be • . THE GOVERNMENT LETTER TO TES BANK. Mr. PATTISON said that an expression MI Mut from • the Chancellor of the Essisequer the other night he awl= .111 Ste letter glue t to the Bank of the blame whisk hem east on them for i =tat • Cillr ia News pelt at lease made bi the pa z.: a ttlt amediea ammemet hem dr Ades anis Beak. We begged is ask the tight Ma. pads ma who those eatioritiles were ? The CHANCELLORot the EXCHEQUER said it would have been more courteous if his honourable friend hod given him notice of his question. Nevertheless, he bad no objec tion to say that ho was at that time constantly in communi cation with the governor and esputy-governor of the Bank, and in the course of conversation it was agreed that it would bebetter if that ooadition were inserted in the letter. Mr. PATTISON would nct have put the question but be saw those gentlemen that morning, and they assured him they were no parties to the arrangement ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. Lord J. RUSSELL said—l beg to give notice that contingent on the vroceedings of the house sod the progress of the bill now before it, I shall on Monday next move that the house at its riaing do adjourn to 3rd February. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) ORDNANCE MAPS. Mr. HUME begged to ask what meuureehad been taken by the Board of Ordnance to supply the public with ord nance maps at a reasonable charge. He asked this because he held in his band an amount which stated that 1,000,0001. bad been expended in surveys in England, Ireland, and Scotland, and the public were still ignorant of what had taken plus. Col. ANSON said that steps bad been taken to supply the public with maps at a lower price than they were sold at present, and he hoped they would shortly be issued at half the price. The eight shiling sheets would be charged four shillings, end the quarter-sheets one shilling. Mr.HUME ; I could supply them for Bd. (" Order," and laughter.) SUSPENSION OF THE CORN AND NAVIGATION LAWS. Mr. SANDARS begged to ask the President of the Board of Trade whether it wee the intention of the government further to suspend the Corn and Navigation Laws after next March? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the spatial bad been asked the other night by the hon. mem ber fur Belfast, and he bad distinctly answered that it was not the intention of the government to propose any further suspension of those laws. Mr. SANDARS begged to give notice that he should, ea a future day, move for returns of the quantity of corn la.. ported under the suipeesien of those laws. TRANSPORTATION OF CONVICTS. Mr. EWART begged to ask a question of e right hon. Radom= the Home Secretary. It had been the stated that 600 convicts bad been sent out so exiles to Van Diemen'e Lend; he wished to know if they went to Port Phillip, and if they were permanently settled in that country? Sir G. GREY said that some convicts had been sent out with eonditionel pardon., and there wee no restraint upon them except with regard to their retorting to England. CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS COMMITTEE. The following members of the Contreverted Elections Committee were sworn in Fox Menlo, Sir W. Heath *eta, Mr R. Ferguson. Sir G. Clerk. end Mr. Thornily. AFFAIRS OF TEI RIVRE BLATR. Mr. F. BAIIIIIO bawd to ask a quad's of the noble ked the Borr Mr Forelign a, with regard to our ornmeoriel erlis Ma Now Plate. The noble lord, e • s bow semis, anima to the dithealties which ea frted Is MA errantry, and espromed a bops that the mils- Zoo M Owe Britain and haws wadi pat an ma to them. The Dili Meshed' had been removed, bat thee by Frame opo porMererl s ma the esneentsrzez was Prat boom' MAW Is lesit m to Basses Ayres were leaded et Mott Wee. eil blis ia the titer of duty had been WA IS 111018 base vests M trantaittei to %este Aiwa eel litenes had * wir i er t imid hr. its wished to low it the wide lard was to state the present rehire eta. ranoe, and if time wee any pew post of oTt i vel al of the French blockade ? There& PALMERSTON said that the government was even of the breavenience resulting both to our own an, 01111111111111110* of other nations by the continuance of the gweseate of things in the River Plate. The matter had sossiews attention of the government, and they I MN momillosiss with reference to it with the govern- Rome et issase. It was his duty to state to the house that idecionent of Trance had expressed and manifested a ShININI alai to co-operate with Great Britain in removing tier stets of things. He had been in communication with the Duke de Broglie, and instructions bad been sent out to the French authorities on the River Plato to pat an end to the blockide, and when those leelseeltiless seaskill their destination there was a fair m ord" ad do ismimadas of hostilities. It would be writhe tory t • illebewee to know that the French and English go vernments maw perfectly agreed in %hemline it was thought expedient te pursue. (Hear, bear.) la answer to a question from Mr. DISRAELI, Viscount PALMERSTON said that there was no consul at Mato Video except Cepa Gore, the chargé d'Affaires, but esesal was on his wry. •ZIPULSION OF TILE JESUITS FROM SWITZER LAND. Er. J. O'CONNELL begged to ask the noble lord the Semetary for Foreign Affairs the following questions, of whileit he had given notice :--Whether he had received MB eislinformation of the decrees of the provisional governments of the MOM ciFriburg and Lucerne, healable. fee ever dm the Liguorians, the Bt:othess of the Christie* the Ursaline Nuns, the SIMMS of Providillikllll4 4616 denomications of religionist', male eiel konle,mokr of their being affiliated to the Jesuits; also tkelr entire property, and annulling say and MOW which they might have made of it during nearter taverns previous to the surrender of Fnburg and Lnewsl , mod if the noble lord bad also received official informailla Oahe enormous demands made upon the can tons eiffiesikederhund fur the expenses of the war, 1,000,000 dins= kolas demanded by the 20th instant, and two ma ins Caere within a brief space afterwards, besides other ilkisies and exactions ? The hon. member was then about to proceed with the following question, which was contained an the notice, viz., whether, considering these acts of a tyrannous majority in Switzerland, the insults and outrage, to the clergy, and the religion of the minority, the trireme persecution and plundering of individuals among that mi nority, whose only crime was to discharge faithfully the duties imposed . on them by their fellow-citizens, an urgent case had not arisen for the intervention of the powers whet guaranteed, in 1815, the cantonal independence of Swann , - land ?—when The SPEAKER interposed and said the hon. member must stop at the last paragraph of his notice. Mr. J. O'CONNELL said he believed it was competent to hat en a motion for the adjournment of the house to use that iin the shape of remarks. He therefore moved that tr i eceTe do now adjourn. (Upon this the hon. member went on with the paragraph in question.) I Viscount PALMERSTON said that the government had received officially the decrees of the new government of Fri-1 burg, banishing the Jesuits and the orders in connexion with them from Friburg ; but they bad not received offi chilly the decrees of the canton of Lucerne, nor had they re. mind the information mentioned in tke second question of the hon. member. With regard to the concluding quadca, he begged to lay that it did not appear to the government that there were any grounds to justify the interferon*, of the powers who guaranteed the independence of Switmelemil in 1815. Dr. BOWRING regretted that the hon. member for Limerick, in putting his question, had vituperated the Diet I of Switzerland. (Order, order.) The SPEAKER must remind the heat. member that there was no question before the house. REGIMENTAL SURGEONS AND PAYMASTERS. Lord A. LENNOX begged to ask the right hon. gentle man the Secretary at War whether it was his intention te extend the benefit of the retiring allowance of ten.twelfthe of full pay to regimental surgeons and paymasters which had been granted by the royal warrant of May, 1841Ipto veterinary surgeons and quartermasters ? Mr. F. MAULE said his noble friend must be aware the' the position of regimental surgeons and paymasters bad been oar Weredin'lday,lB46. There was no intention to make any bather alteration in the regulations. THE CIVIL WAR, 1N SWITZERLAND. Dr. BOWRING wished to put a question to the tab lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, since the has. now bar for Limerick had thought fit to calumniate. (Order, coder.) Well, he begged to ask the noble lord whether be had received any despatches which would authorise this hon. member in using such language towards the Diet ? Viscount PALMERSTON said the government bad re- ceived despatches from Berne, bat they did not costal* do baths of the acts of violence which it was Mated in the paper ' had been committed at Friburg. POOR LAW (IRELAND). Mr. P. SCROPE begged to ask the right hon. gentleman the Secretary for Ireland whether any returns had been received In relation to the operation of the poor law in Ireland, and if they would be laid on the table before the holidays ? Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the papers were in a forward state, and he hoped they would be produced before the' mew IMMIGRATION OF IRISH PAUPERS. Mr. P. SCROPE asked the right hon. gentleman, the Home Secretary, whether any steps had been taken to pro cure returns or an account of the number of destitute Irish who might come in the ensuing spring to Liverpool, Bristol, London, or Glasgow ? Bir G. GREY said that last year an amount was taken by the local authorities at Liverpool and other places of the number of pus who arrived, but the government had given no direections on the subject, and he was not aware whether it would be dose again. DISABILITIES OF THE JEWS. Mr. GLADSTONE begged to &eked the noble lord at the head of the government when he proposed to bring on the bill of which he had given notice for the removal of Jewish disabilities? Lord J. RUSSELL—I propose to bring it in on Thurs day. THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 14, 1847, • theca at an beigissent period of the reap witlioit the hit okedendleb, sad bat for his volts not a 1144 word would probaWbe Lard asks& behalf. These who oink after usea WOO Ira yak, whoa they behead the groat semi Mag. Wessel Weeks whisk bad bogs . _..sled k Usk is marry by ale Week% desteullest hug *Sr hid acted fa reksottle tompstal amd kleki *Owe ef thei labotmere—whigher their namte: LAW= ettemied ei whether kro ik sidskes their wilidenainotrnstke h a d been Ikea attar—and* key bed towards tYea borne out the character whid the, eknweed to of being a philanthevie legialataro apill a Chriti= ga i Amongst the unftwons acts which had bike rand oa the @skeet of railways, only one was to be bond, the let & Shad ef Vittoria, having especial reference to the labourers, and that was one of repression. He bogged the house to re in ember that the present was not the oak of those who were old and decrepit, sick and infirm, but of those who were Wrong and powerful, and who would be able very soon to avenge on society the evils they had received at its hauls. In order to show what was the condition of railway la- bourers, the kon. gentleman read extras* from the evi- , deuce of the Rev. J . R. Thompson, the Rev. J. Mason, Mr. Rawllnain, Mr. Pomfret, and Mr. Chadwick, which had been given before the committee, appointed at the instance of the hon member for Kilmarnock, in July, 1846. This evidence went to show that the habitations of the labourers were of a most wretched description; that in several instances men, women, and children, slept in the same room; that gross immorality was the molt; that the high wages received were rather a curse than a benefit ; and that fever and small- 1 , pox were allowed to make their ravages unchecked. Mr. Chadwick stated that the truck system was most injurious' to the labourers, and he knew of one instance where the I contractors for a piece of wort would have lost by the work itself ; b u t who made 7,0001. profit by the truck of boar and inferior provisions. They lost 20 and 30, and sometimes as high as 50 per cent. by the system ; at the same time ' that they were served with articles of an inferior descnptloa. There was no regular system of spiritual instruction, said the Rev. Mr. Thompson, and Mr. Chadwick mentioned the nes of a man, who, haring received an injury of the spine from which be could not recover, requested to have the scriptures read to him, but was suffered to expire without receivingthe least attention of the nature he so earnestly besought. They had to deal with nearly 400,000 persons, and were they lobe left in ouch a state ? They had not heretofore been treated as the members of a civilised community. They had been suffered to go from work to work, receiving high wages, which they squandered in gratifying the wants which evil habits engendered, and in a reckless course of improvident extravagance, insomuch that their average age did not exceed that of forty. He could not therefore suffer the further progress of this measure, without raising the voice of notice against the past, and the voice of warning in reference to the future. The hon. member concluded by giving notice that after the recess he should bring the question forward in a substantive shape. Sir G. GREY said the subject was undoubtedly an im portant one, but as the hon. member bad given notice of his intention to submit a substantive proposition on the subject, he should defer his obeervations on it. He would only now say that he thought the hon. member had, perhaps, over rated the power of parliament with regard to it. Very much must be left in the hands of directors of companies, of con tractors, end of the gentry resident in the &strict; through which the line passed. Lord G. BENTINCK could not quite let his hon. friend's charge against the railways pus without observation. Ha ready did not think the devil wan quite so black as hie hon. friend had painted him. It appeared by the report which had been quoted that these very labourers were receiving 22a. 6d. per week wages, and he (Lord George) had heard that the companies were at this very time contributing 450,0001. a year to the poor rate, or one-fifteenth of the whole asseament of the country. Mr. AGLIONBY believed that in many instances railway companies had provided admirably well for their labourers. Sir H. VERNEY expressed his gratification at there being a probability of legislating on this most important and interesting question. The report was then brought up, when Mr. STRUTT said be would state what were the amend- merits be proposed to make in this bill. The first related to the compensation to landowners. It was proposed to enlarge the exceptions under the sth clause, so as to include all cases in which companies had applied to parliament to make their line, so that no parties concerned would be in any way . pre judiced by the passing of the act, but would have their re medy upon their contracta, either at law or in equity, as if the act had never passed. Another amendment related to service of notices upon the landowners, which must be posted on the church-doors of parishes thr ough which the lines passed, as well as given through the medium of local or other papers. There were some other amendments of minor im portance. The amendments having been read, Mr. HENLEY, who had suggested theta amendments, expressed himself perfectly satisfied. Mr. AGLIONBY, on the other hand, thought the altera tions would leave the bill an exceedingly clumsy piece of la The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the objections raised by his hon. and learned friend were met by the provisions of the bill. The clauses were then read a second time, and ordered to be added to the bill, and the bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow (thisSUPPLY.day). gr. J. O'CONNELL sieved, as an emandmirt, that the bill be read a third time that day six Imadia la delag so it was not hishrontioa to detain thnlerige witit any log& mod thesseatimes. In the filet Oreek hi nthite4 Warred statement width his heed role tie Wier night le elk era to the n =israhleaggefatairt of Mr. Rpm. Of Limmel, as • 0/0111••••• He had deserilled Mr. Ryan as a guess der ems bight, end that his apgaintenent had been', rods bathe Moth of . the rinteretrathes et the he: mambas , gee the ef.Thmenry, and at the instance of a edlg This lest part of his statement Wit was mistaken in ; he, therefore, now retracted it, mai eopememed his sorrow that he should have made it. He seat eddied to lay before the home a letter which he had vessived from the Rev. Mr. McDermott, the parish priest of Ibletherewa, to wig& he called the attention of those hon. imerbre the bad bra me eery to cry down the Roman ea- Erie dimly of bird open the idlest rumours. In fhb Mr the rernend pulsar, with the most solemn seireireisa, dried that du late Major Mahon had ever bow eateresee, or his name mentioned from any chapel in Sigehiretra or within twenty miles of it. He declared that aisle metro hid not been spoken from the alter that by gay aregegraetton could have urged the peasantry to the amidera of the atrocious raider of that gentleman. Re lied she a letter from the Rev. Mr. Hughes, of the musty el Mayo, who denied that he had ever used the Iter ated which had been imputed to him, but which was that of the local conservative paper published in Castle -Aar, whose eider was to cast slanders upon the Roman catholic clew. Oa the subject of the bill he should certainly divide am home against the third reading, though he knew it woad be hopeless. The government would no doubt get their coereitm bill by a triumphant majority, and he implored them now to turn their attention to remedial measures and the relief of the efaffetring population of Ireland. He warned them that the didlaulues would be augmented by any longer delay. Ia careberon he moves that the bill be read a third time this direr month'. Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN seconded the amendment. There Was no man in that house who would go further than ho would for the suppression of those outrages which had pre vailed in Ireland, but he believed that this measure would augment the evils complained of. It went to establish a errs of espionage which would be productive of the mart serious evils. He complained, also, that the bill woad throw upon the occupying tenants of Ireland the exposes which the increased oonetabulary would entail upon the country. The present government had obtained office by opposing a coercion bill for Ireland; and with what grace should they new come forward and ask for such a measure The relief which they had afforded to the people of Ireland was lamentably insufficient, for, although large sums had been expended for food, hundreds of th ousands of the people had died, who might have been saved if the government bad adopted more judicious measures. As to the poor law, he had predicted its fate ; be had said that the machinery of it would not work well, and that prod iction had been verified. He always had declared it would be ineffective, and it was now proved to be so. It was true that one million and a half of money had been expended as an indemnity to landlords, but the grant mu of no practical service in mitigating the general distress. Out of that amount not mere than 31,0001. had been applied to relieve the distress of the country. The landlords of Ireland had been abused last session, and all the evils of the country attributed to them, but now the blame was thrown en the priesthood, and a clam of men had been grossly maligned without whose efforts Ireland would have been in a state of positive insurrection. The hon. gentleman proceeded at some length to address the house, but the noise was so great that he was quite inaudible in the gallery. Mr. ROBINSON attempted to address the hones, but Ina met by loud and reiterated cries of "Divide, divide," and was not distinctly heard in the gallery. Mr. M. J O'CONNELL supported the third reading of the bill. This wu • different bill to that of 1848; if it bad been at all like it he would not have given it his support, but he thought this a very moderate bill, and it inter fered as little as possible with the ordinary law. The power of calling in arms was certainly unconstitutional, but it was a power which had been exercised m Borland ; and he rejoiced to see the government legislate for Ireland as had been done for this country. (Hear.) Mr. BRIGHT said he was compelled to speak ow this question. He had presented • petition from Manchester, signed by 20,000 persons, against this bill ; he must, there- fore, state why he supported it. Had not the government thought it absolutely necessary be was certain it would not lave been proposed. The cue for the bill was complete ; the ordinary law was utterly powerless. In England the people generally supported the law; but in the disturbed districts of Ireland the public sentiment was so utterly de praved and vitiated that the law was deprived of its force. (" No, no.") He maintained that it was so. Many of the murders that had been committed were not regarded as assassinations, but rather as execit• lions. In the ease of Mr. Lloyd the murder had been committed most deliberately. Extraordinary powers were clearly remeired. w yirhether the present bill would be effective he could not say. Be feared the government had not shown the necesury courage for dealing with the condi tion of Ireland. The recent poor law was certainly a most advantageous measure ; and the noble lord at the head of the government had power to pass any measure that he might propose through that house. He blamed the Irish re peal members fur not having themselves brought forward the remedial measures which they thought desirable. He had in Vet . yet kaown those members bring forward and con sistently support any measures ; or, doubtless, they might have tarried them. (Hear.) He would not imitate their example, but suggest some remedy. He ascribed all the evils of &lead to idlenms ; if it could be ascertained, he be lieved it would be found the people did not work more than two days a week. Hence Ireland starved, and consequently rebelled. (Hear.) This could only be prevented by setting their industry in motion, for their idleness was not their own fault ; they were able and willing to work, and, when at work, were as ready as Englishmen to keep the peace. (Hear, hew.) The means of employment were extremely small in Ireland ; there were few large towns or manufactories ; end in' the tomes of the south and west groups of 20 or 30 were to be constantly seen standing idle. This gave rise to annual emigration, by which large mule ben of the peasantry were drafted off to other countriesA end thus the means for producing wealth were abridged. (Hoar.) He doubted whether tenant-right would be • beneficial mea sure. The house would never consent to such a assesses r the hon. end learned member for the county of Lissa& wanted. What was most needed was a measure empower. tog the sale of encumbered estates. Why was it not ready ? Load J. RUSSELL : It has been reedy several weeks. Mr. BRIGHT wished to know, then, why it had not been brought forward ? Government ought not to wait till they were urged to introduce certain measures. In his opi nion much evil had resulted from the conduct of the land owners. The incumbranoes on the estates were wholly un paralleled in this country. In the Freeing*. of Connaught, he understood, not 5 per Sent of the land was under settle- I meat, and not 1 per cent. was free from mortgage. Such being the case, it was idle for the house to go further in pursuit of the evils of Ire land ; and the longer a remedy was delayed the greater the criminality of the legislature. It was impossible for the government to benefit Ireland by lending landlords money at 34 per cent. out of the taxation paid by the inhabitants of this country, who were borrowing money at 8 per cent. , Let a measure be passed for simplifying the titles to estates in Ireland. (Hear, hear.) Let government also diminish the stamps and other expenses which hindered the transfer of estatss,• and let the meter of. entail be for ever pat sr end to. (Hear, hear.) his would be done in England at some time; in Ireland it was absolutely necessary now. The absurd system of entail and primogeniture sacrificed the living to the whims of the dead; if the system were applied to personal as well as landed property, the country would be thrown into inextricable con( on. Some might say that the system was necessary to maintain the existing arisen I critic arrangements. But rather let such arrangements perish for ever ' than th at a whole country should be in the state in which Ireland was now found. Did the aristocracy rear up their sons with proper habits of industry and jest notions of their property, the system of entail would become unnecessary. Whatever government did for In land, it would be wholly unavailing , unless it rested es the bender= of doing away the fetters of the land. Bore boa, member might think they had an interest in up the maims ; but it was no such thing. He ...rat: scanty noeshire) which had been overrun with the pea petrol and pestilence of Ireland, and he r rested against the continuance of arrangements by which reek thrill are occasioned. Toe present parlilunent was composed very largely of men of budges • the present government was reentially one of the islaile ars; and if they would grapple mortally with the gaga of the teed in Ireland, they woald be suppeeted by the bore, erg wain lay the foundation of IY prosperity. (Fem, _hear.) lb should support this aces• breams V the pigment law was powerless, simeiting lieggiverment had NM sooner brought forward remedial emegeree, end believing that if this was not dome coon it would be Ismailiae for any government long le stand. (Cries of" Divide.") Mr. HUMS viler to as the noble lord at the head 1111 the government when the bill for regulating the relation of landlord and onset would be laid before the house Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that last 8.1116111 the Landlord and Tenant Bill had pined the other Immo, and that it would be introduced again after receiving eel- Va amendments. I Os D. HALL row amidst loud cries of " Divide." Res Slag Mom extracts from the Freeman's Journal, to slaw list the "committee of national deuces and national safety" ' had given in their adhesion to the bill when it was first in lemireseL With regard to the measure before the house, he throgle it had been shown, during the progress of the de bar, that there was an 'bateau necessity fur it. (Cries of "Divide.") As he saw that the house was anxious to go to • division ' he would content himself by making &statement width he had received from Mr. Roe, the brother of the Marwhi had been murdered. The hen, gentleman a m ted that the allegat one which had been made by 1 , Mr. lagglestane, in the letter referred to by the hon. end ladedmamba for Limerick, were contradicted in all the ' hree days afterwards. That contradiction was lie known to the hon , and learned gentleman. Bei iii mho age iLoughnene? He was a person who had bra • paella works, and and was known, as what la =age ge ik Mek a " gutter agent." Did the hon. 11111, limed peatlesma know that a very near relative of this fr. tilleidual was now in prison on a charge of murder ? • The house then divided—For the third reading 173. Against l4-11/ Oa the melba of Sir G. 011XY some verbal emendators' INNS aped tr The bill then pined. • RAILWAY LABOURERS. On the motion that the order of the day for the bringing ,up of the railway report be read, Mr. A. STAFFORD said he rose for the purpose of bring ing under the notice of the house the conditim of the la boured employed in the construction of those railways whose claims had been most shamefully and dangerously neglected durieg the whole coulee of their legislation on the subji et of railways. They were now about to dismiss great numbers of On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Exemeausta the committee of supply was postponed until Friday next. PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion of the CHANOILLOR of the EXCHWAITER, the Public Works (Ireland) Bill went through committee. Mr. F. FRENCH, on behalf of Mr. J. R. Hamilton, moved the addition to the bill of the following disuse And be it enacted, that the word ' treasurer' shall, as to the county of Dublin, mean and include the ' finance committee,' and the word maim' shall, as to the said county of Dublin, mean and include the presenting term,' and the words ' county surveyor' shall, as to the said county of Dublin, mean and include the' district surveyor ; and that the pro visions of an act, passed in the seventh and eighth year of her Majesty's reign, intituled ' An Act to consolidate and amend the laws for the regulation of grand jury present ments' in the said county, and any act for amending the same, shall, with reference to the raising, applotting, levy- ing, and recovering of grand jury cats, so far as the same is applicable, apply as to the said county of Dublin, to sums of money to be presented and raised under this act." The motion wan agreed to, and the clause was added to the bill. Sir R. FERGUSON moved the insertion of the following clause "Whereas, under an act pared in the firm year of the reign of her present Majesty, Intl tuled An Act to provide more effectual means to make treanurees of counties and counties of cities fa Ireland account for public moneys, and to secure the same,' it was enacted that every treasurer then in Mice, and no other, shall have and receive the interest due on Ex chequer Bills purchased from any balance standing to the credit of such treasurer's account, so that such interest does not exceed one half of the salary appertaining to his office ; and whereas it is just that such treasurer and the bank which the grand jury of any county shall have appointed for recovering the public moneys of such county should be allowed interest on sums paid and advanced under this act, be it therefore enacted that the officer whom the Lord Lieu tenant or other chief governor in Ireland has authorised, or may hereafter authorise, to audit and declare the accounts of the treasurers of oouaties in Ireland, may, and he is hereby required, on being applied to by or on behalf of any treasurer entitled to receive interest under the said act, or of any bank having made any advance above the balance at the credit of such county, to ascertain the amount of inte rest at the rate of M. per cent, which would be due to such treasurer or bank on the amount no from time to time unpaid, from the time or times at which such money shall have been paid by the treasurers of such county until the same shall have been discharged, or until the first day of the assizes next succeeding suck application, and to certify the same to the secretary of the grand jury ; and it shall be lawful for any grand jury to present to the said treasurer or bank such interest so certified to be due, which interest shall be mild to such treasurer or bank out of any balance in hand, and shall be raised and levied off the barony or half barony liable to pay such sumo" The clause was agreed to, and added to the bill, which was reported with amendments, and the report ordered to be re ceived to-morrow (thin dam). NEW ZEALAND. Mr. LABOUCIIESS rose to ask, pursuant to his notice, the permission of the house to introduce a bill to suspend some of the most important provisions of an act of parliament pawed at the close of the session last year, to make provision for the government of the colony of New Zealand. Thom who had paid any attention te this important colony would remember that in 1816 it had been, with the general concur rence of all parties, thought exceedingly desirable to intro duce a constitutional form of government into that colony. There had been petitions from the inhabitants of New Zee. land presented to that effect, and the subject had been urged upon the government by the New Zealand Company ; and he, also, thought that in the discussions which had taken lace in this and in the other house of parliament, all the leading statesmen of this country had expressed a desire that a beginning should be made to introduce a conetitutional and ri presentative government into that colony. Such was the state of things when her Majesty's present advisers came into office ; and his noble friend, who now held the seals of the colonial department, at once applied himself to this important subject. his believed that his noble friend found iu his office a record of the determination of the pre ceding government to introduce some measure of that description, and, accordingly, at the latter end of the year 1846 a bill was primed almost unanimously by both houses, by which her Maim y was empowered to grant a charter, and to issue instructions which were to regulate the future government of New Zealand. The main provisions of that act, and of the letters patent issued under it, were to the following effect :—The colony was to be divided into two provinces—the one to be called New Ulster, the other New Munster; municipal districts were constituted, with town councils in all those pars where any considerable number of Eoglish colonists had assembled. Them were made the nucleus of a system of provincial government, and were to elect representatives in the legislature of each of the provinces. There was also to be a general assembly for both provinces, the members of which were to be elected by the two provincial assemblies. This act was to take effect as soon as the letters patent were proclaimed by the governor of the colony. Such were the instructions which bad been sentout, and he must also mention that with regard to the very diffi cult part of the subject—namely, the condition of the abo riginal inhabitants of the colony, it was proposed to be treated . and settled in the following manner it was suggested that the municipal districts should only comprise those parts in which there were settled a considerable number of white in habitants, and that those great tracts of country occupied by the aborigines should not be brought immediately within the scope of those institutioes. It was thought that the aborigines were not yet ripe for institutions of that kind, while, on the other band, the difficulty of subjecting them bad curly understood Lord Grey's despatch, a --- ; --.---.. "1,,,,*,. to the authority and anted of the white population woo Palmer) understood it, to deny all further territor ial 1 It had been endeavoured to provide for that die. to the natives; and with this view the bishop aCd salty, by securing to the aborinises the enjoyment of sionaries could not do other than proteat against the prigo s a, t4- " dads own laws and customs in those parts of the Mr. HUME regretted when he first saw it - n o •""• missy sot included in the municipal districts, and that government Intended to repeal that portion " ( a s e — "', e , by proventing the representative assembly from inter- of last year which extended self-government to the ° —"" twins with their rights, laws, and customs. Such, but, on looking at the papers which had bees 'del thee, was the outline of the scheme sent out to table, he must admit they fully warranted Mtg e Kn e the Governor of New Zealand. The reasons which is - course they had taken, The reasons assigned be —'• to say, had tlins,,,; dated her Majesty's government to promise now to Grey for such a step were amply Refitment. (11e* ) suspend the operation of this constitution were contained in conduct of the bishop, he was sorry the despatches which had been received from Governor new element of difficulty in the government of the co lony - Grey after the beet consideration he had been able to give to He believed no document had ever 'aeen laid befo r e yacht, the plan of the government. The opinion of Governor Grey ment in which a bishop or clergyman had stood up a nd 4,,,r-- ought to have the greatest weight with the house and the hely bearded the governor of a colony, and declaredle.7"l„ government. Any person who had pertued those dominate would dispute the orders, not of the governor only, bar* would acknowledge that Governor Grey had given valid the Secretary of State for the Colonial department. (H,,, 0 reasons for not promulgatin g . the new constitution. Hies It had been laid down that the natives had no right of i ,,, e ' main objection rested on the intelligence of the aboriginal perty except in the land they actually oteupied. This e,,,e_r'n population, and because It was left to the whim population, eiple the bishop opposed, and preached to the saven e r ''',M. who were the minority, to make laws and to impose duties they were entitled to all the laud in the colon,. The ... wk . - -"•• which would be mainly paid by the aborieinal inhabitants of of England were, in fact, paying a salary of 001 :n ee - 7 e the island . From this he stated that dissatisfaction would this bishop to be a firebrand in the colony . etc id ee , e nt be created , and tumult and insurrection would be the puts the high qualities the right hon. gentleness -r ite 7 consequence if the white inhabitants had conferred upon Gladstone) had ascribed to Bishop Selwyn, bat tele: them the power of tithing the greet body of the population. (Mr. Hume) it appeared the rev. gentleman had e iee , e , -- : His noble friend at the head of the Colonial-office, on re- but common sense. (" Hear," and a laugh.) H e - ' — "' ceiving these despatches, had not hesitated as to the course advise the government to remove hint as soon as wa tt{ 7. 1 which he felt it his duty to recommend, and had joined in a better climate, or, at all events, stop his salary. They; thinking that the peace of the colony ought not to be risked gentleman who last spoke had referred to the services**. by prematurely, and without due deliberation , forcing the missionaries and their successful efforts in col° nine N -- ee new constitution upon the inhabitants. Lord rey thought Zealand; but, if he was rightly informed, the aural m o n' it hie duty to recommend to his colleagues at once to suspend sionary Society had intimated to their missionaries ni t - . 1 the operation of the law. When he said suspend the set, he Zealand that they were forgetting their duties is meant only a puttee of it, for that part of it which provided proprietors of laud instead of preachers of the for the framing of municipal institutions for the purposes of would appear that, whatever other virtues the I:T h 1 n local government, it was thought might be safely retained. pressed, they had not the virtue of self-denial ; f or an was proposed, therefore, to leave untouched that part of had absorbed to themselves, be believed, 96,030 ecru Oka' the bill which related to municipal institutions with only an —(hear)--and, having done so, they disputed the right d alteration of the qualification. The qualification for a voter ethers to acquire land, and stirred up the interes to mitt in the municipal districts was, the possession of a house any attempt on the part of others to obtain it. He Wind and the capability of reading and writing in English. the disputes with the natives which had resulted in nin e But it was found that although most of the elm- of so many English lives, were owing entirely to the rigines could read and write, it was in their own of the missionaries, and that to them alone were to hess,' language, and there were also foreign settlers, German and crihed the hatred and disgust which had been engeadee t a i French, who could not read or write in English. It was the minds of the natives to the Settled rule. Thereon's* proposed, therefore, to modify the qualification, and to little hope for peace in the eels:ley, while these miedsweb k enable the governor to give certificates to those who pole with the bishop at their head, were theorises messed the requisite tenements, whether foreigners or abra against the governor ; and for his part thegs vua riginee. The principal provisions of this hill were firstly to aunt at home would make Governor Grey dictator, nee* suspend so much of the lamer act, letters patent and in. succeeded in putting down their opposition. (He l e, s **. structions relating to the legialative assemblies for five yeses,, and s laugh.) At ad events, he trusted that what k e g s ' and to re-enact the legislative council of 1840, giving power tarred in New Zealand would be a lessen to the go veOtdl to the governor to add to their number. These legislative not to send out any more bishops to our colonies. (Hem) councils were to be in each of the tee provinces, elan rby Mr. CARDWELL hoped that in solving the chest nomination or election. The part relating to the municipal problem of how far constitutional institutions wen apple institutions to be retained, with power to the governor to cable to • mixed race of aborigines and settlers, the No . enlarge the franchise by certificate. This measure gave a vernment would not take their instructions from the very large die-lotion to the governor, but he believed that, honourable member for Montrose. Constitutional liberty under the circumstances, it was the wisest and safest comae would he at an end in the colony if the bishop were to adopt a simple schema, leaving to the governor in council not to be permitted to *darns a firm and respectful &large discretion. A complete narrative would be found in remonstrance to the Secretary of State epeeist say the papers before the house of the circumstances which led act of the government of the colony. He could assure the to this determination, and the reasons which induced hon. member for Montrose that the fear of losing the 6011, Governor Grey not to promulgate the charter, ea well as a year allowed him by the House of Commons wooled at those of Earl Grey, in proposing this course. It was deter Bishop Selwyn from acting in accordance with diet intended to promulgate the charter in New Ulster, he felt to be his duty. That right rev. gentleman repressed but the government thought it bett er to suspend altogether a body of persons of whom all who had held the ones d for the present the introduction of these institutions rather Secretary of State had spoken if, the highest term. It than to carry them out in part of the country. The hon. must be remembered that we obtained New Zealand by gentleman concluded by eulogising the wise government of treaty, which treaty was negotiated by the minimums. Governor Grey, which had caused great improvement in the We had ostentatiously disclaimed the right of sovereign' ty colony, and expressed his hope that New Zealand would over the country. The quesion was debated by the New become a valuable addition to the possessions of thisconntry. Zealanders, when the matter was proposed to them whether Mr. GLADSTONE agreed, almost without exception, in they shou ld or should net make the treaty—those sobs everything that had fallen from the right bon. gentleman. would have dissuaded them from it, arguing that the aim e object. The New Zee regard hto what had been said of Governor Grey, he was to deprive them of the land ; but the missionaries ea would only re-echo the expressions of the right bon. gentle- cured them that that was not t man; and he adopted the language of the right hon. gentle- lenders, in their own leieguage end peculiar mode deeper. g man with regard to the natives; and be rejoiced the morn ing their ideas, said, nWe quite uudermand you , the shadow at whet had been said by the right hon. gentleman, because of the land goes to Queen Victoria, and the substance there had not always been a disposition in that house to remit' , with us." It could not be denied, eeeie the pen recognise the qualities of the New Zealanders. If that house they had had in negotiating it, that the masionanes had the could show towards them that paternal care and tenderness full right to tepees their sense of the treaty of Waitangai, which it was tkeir duty to show towards them, he could not but and to protest spina any infraction of it. think, even after all that had happened, from the intelligence Mr. AGLIO:s BY said that several euggersted statements which had been lately receivedethat there was every hope had been made respecting the Bishop of New Zealand. Hs that they would yet witness a satisfactory termination to the could only say that he much regretted the protest which led enlightened labours which had been bestowed on New Zwo been issued by that right rev. prelate. There was a reg land. The right boa. gentleman said that the late govern. deal of difference between the rights and privileges of Ass, ment intended to give a free constitution to New Zealand, and the mode in which these rights awl privileges were as. It was true that they did so intend ; but there was a differ- ereised. (Hear, hear.) He was ex.remely sore 7 that the ends of opinion between the late and the present government bishop had thought it consistent with his duty mid episne,g as to the speediest mode o' effecting it. It was their opinion character to threaten to on o be the naive Welled'' , that any step which should be taken to bind the hands of them what he conceived to be their rights, a course tbs ger Governor Grey would be a measure not only ill-advised but effect of which could be to estrange them from the games would lead to a loss of the time it was intended to Save. He ment and the settlers. (Hear, hear.) With respect to the ' (Mr. Gladstone) thought it would have been better if Earl church missionaries, all who bad perused the puffs Orey had deferred more to the opinion of Governor Grey, watery report must be aware that they did cot deserve the and not sent out instructions which were not suited to the exaggerated praise which had been bestowed on thee kin circumstances of the colony. With regard to the bill intro- course of that debate. They were not all of that nursed duced by the right hon. gentleman, he (Mr. Gladstone) and standing which properly belonged to missionaries albs thought that a ease bad been made out for it. The reasons church; on the contrary, many were extremely ignored, which ieduced it were of specialise nature' and he thought the and some had shown themselves by . their conduct hs Is hams should refrain from a detailed discussion upon it tainted with persousl maim. wholly Incontinent with** th.i the measure had been some time in their hands and had clerical character. (Hear, bear.) It shoul.l be secelbeld ban well considered. As he (Hr. Gladstone) understood also that when a Walley= missionary became a pureeing it, it put the whole power of establishing the representative of land he was immediately recalled. (Hear.) How MI government in the hands of the governor. Those were ex- t he church missionaries conducted themselves ? It ass a sdiaary powers; but he would grant that there never was matter of notoriety that they had purchased 96,000 anted • man into whose hands they could be better entrusted, lend. (Hear, hear.) A juentication of this course hid and there never was a case of rester diffienlty in been attempted, on the ground that it was nesesep ing at a distance an which more required they should provide a maintenance for their families; Ina M =knowledge. Everything which would allow local believed the feeling was very general that they had tred knowledge to prevail over distant and speculative greased the reks of the church society. The aborigine, be plans ought to be done. He wished to say a word admitted, were an active and intelligent race ; but neitbet withsegard to a despatch of Earl Grey, »lat . to the des- did they deserve the high 'Weigh= which they mad received. demilif public lands in New Zealand. In the Deg e nmag of It should not be forgotten that during the war they hid desedelon he asked if the government would lay on the slain and mutilated their prisoners for the horrible purposes Idle tee despatch of Earl Grey in December 1846, of cannibalism. (Hear, hear.) With respect to the bin ayieially that part of it which related to the dim before the house he was quite willing to concede the powers ai. of lands. He found in the papers which had given to the governor; and all disputes between the settles Cn delivered that morning an acknowledgment by and the company might be safely, in his opinion, left to Ma Governor Grey of the receipt of that despatch, but no arbitration of that functionary. reference to that portion of it relating to the disposal of land, Sir E. BUXTON was of opinion that the Bishop of New He concluded that, if it had arrived, it would soon be laid on Zealand had done his duty, and nothing more. (Hey, the table, and, if not, it would not be long before it did. Vie hear.) He (the bishop) had come to the conclusionlhai (Kr. Gladstone) thought that portion of the despatch was of the government intended to trample on the treaty d great importance, and he read with great misgivings with Waitangai, end it was his duty, therefore, to inform the respect to the mode or applying the doctrines laid down in it. natives of their rights, and the mode in which they might The despatch of Earl Grey, which closed the papers on the constitutionally obtain redress. He trusted that the right table, referred to the protest of the Bishop of New Zealand, rev. prelates exertions, and the good feeling of the people of in which he assumed that the despatch of the noble lord in England, would cause that treaty to be respected in all relation to the disposal was at variance with the treaty of esserdialPointe Waitangai, and he protested against it. A protest of this Mr. PLUMPTRE was willing to admit that the ins description, in its first aspect, seemed to be a gratuitous and enemies had gene somewhat beyond bounds, but then they wanton interference of a spiritual person in civil had families to support ; and it should be recollected that &friars. But, on examination, it would prove not a thousand acres of land in New Zealand was a eery din to be so, and the character of the Bishop of New ferent thing from the same quantity in England. There Zealand was such, that he was not so disposed to interfere, might have been something wrong, but mail it was hardly but was more inclined to attend solely to his spiritual tune- fair to treat with such seserity men who had proved thew noos e and to shrink from political affairs ; that in this in- selves ready to sacrifice their lives in the cause in which they MEN the clergy were chosen as the instruments by which had embarked. dr treaty of Waitangai was carried out. It was only by Mr. LABOUCHERE said he had net the honour of a their means that the governor could held real and extensive personal acquaintance with the Bishop of New Zealand, but ktercourse with the aborigines, and the governor did commit from all he had beard he believed the right rev. Prelate 1 the conduct of the treaty to them. It therefore became the to deserve ell the encomiums which had b en geed duty of the bishop, as their head, to see that the public upon him. Still, be must regret that the bishop faith conveyed through them was strictly kept. In hie de- should have addressed a formal communication to &patch, Earl Grey expressed no doubt of the sincerity of the the gorernor announcing his intention to use all legal bishop, but he also expressed his fear that the language of and constitutional measures to inform the natives et his protest was such as ought not to have been ad. their rights and privileges as British subjects, and to is dressed to a people so lately emerged from barbarism. strut them in their maintenance by all legal and consider This was evidently not a protest nude public in the colony, tional means. (Hear, hear.) Why, this was informing but addressed by the bishop to the governor, as a person for them that he differed from the executive government, whom he had every respect, and whose authority he was and also tempting them to petition the crown. He most anxious to rapport. That being so the bishop was not must say, that in his opinion this was a men open to the charge, made by Lord Grey, of addressing tuft- unfortunate step on the part of the bishop. It ing language to a people easily excited. He hoped the hon. was impossible for his noble friend to abstain from es gentleman opposite would state whether this protest had not pressing, in temperate and respectful language towards the been made in the way he had stated. Into the merits of the bishop, but at the same time in that firm and decided low question he would now decline to enter. After the recess, gunge which was due to himself and to the situation Is he hoped a day would be fixed for giving to the measure the held, his deep regret that the bishop should have announced full consideration which its importance demanded. his determination to such an effect. There was a formal see Mr. V. SMITH regretted that the annuity should have nouncement on the part of the bishop to begin • course el arisen for another direct interference with the colony of New agitation. (" Oh, oh.") What was it in common langur Zealand. This colony was the one most congenial to Eng- but agitation, that a bishop should tell the people to get ay nehmen, and therefore possessed peculiar interest for the pefte e an to d to lay them before the crown. (Hear law.) legislature. However much praise might be due W respect the question whether any other doeimenle to the governor, parliament could take none to itself; ha n written on the subject, and whether Gopher for this bill was an admission of their put neglect. A bill Grey had expressed any opinion with regard to it, 11 had passed the legislature in 1846, almost without discussion- begged to reply that there was no other papers on alts In December last the Colonialmffioe had began to act on this subject in the colonial office beyond what were contained Is constitution—which now turned out to be wholly iaapplicin the book on the table. He believed that the right hon. geo bla to the eirmimstances of the colony—although it had been tleman opposite agreed in the abstract opinion of his noes promised that it should not be enforced until it had received friend respecting the tenure of land. If the right hon. gm the approbation of Governor Grey. Mutest as Noon as the nem= looked at the papers, he would find thee it we bill had passed there arrived from New Zealand a protest scarcely possible to guard the accredited rights of the natives against the measure by the inhabitants of Nelson, denouno- more scrupulously than his noble friend had done. The ing the meatiere as one based in utter ignorance of the bishop was not junified thee is saying that his noble nisei colony. As it was now proposed to suspend the political laid down the admen principle that all land was to be give constitution, he would suggest that it would be as well to to the crown. The right hon. gentleman, the member , ' suspend also the territorial constitution, as placed in the Liverpool, said that be regretted that the municipal Ude hands of the New Zealand Company. It seemed that certi. none were to be retarded. That was not the case. (anthem* States were to be grimed to the aborigines, entitling them teary, the municipal institutions weretobe enlarged,andithrw to vote ; and it was highly probable that their pride might proposedto communicate the municipal franchise to theable be thereby offended. According to Governor Grey a am ginal natives who resided within the municipal discreet, count of these men, their moral and religious char- giving them a certificate. With regard to the further ,. meter stood very high—more so, he feared, than the char- greet of the bill, what be proposed was, that, as it tee raster of many of the emigrants from this country important no doubt should t list in the minds of the He thought that matters of this kind might be safely of New Zeeland as to the principle of the bill, it siterldl left to the discretion of Governor Grey, oboe, conduct read a second time on Monday next, so that the affirmed afforded an ample guarantee fur his efficient management; of the principle might be sent out to the colony, the dkee' probably to no man who had ever been sent out ad governor sion of the details in committee being deferred till sheen might a wide discretion be more safely entrusted. (Hear.) reuse. He hoped there would be no objection tothat roam With every respect for the character of the bishop, he ter) Lord CLIVE did not think that the right hon. gentians tainly thought him an agitating bishop. (Laughter.) He fairly interpreted the design of the bishop when he min Is had made his protest spud Governor Grey's proceedings a wished te agitate the colony. (Hear.) la looking owls as the " head of the missionary body ;" and everybod y papers, he observed that they had not Governor Grey's Ned knew how frequently missionary seal overstepped discretion. aloe as to the bishop. (" Yes, yes," and cries of "NAP It could not be contended that he did not mean the protest No. 42.") It was but fair that the Bishop of New Zahn' to be made public, for he declared his intention, "God as representing the clergy who had a substantive and fade being his helper," to inform the native of New Zealand of pendent character of their own district from the tetea their rights and privileges. (Hear, hear.) Such a man as should inform the natives of their just rights, in ceder bishop must impede very seriously the steps taken by they might be protected. Governor Ore 'the Earl of ARUNDEL said, it seemed Ty &. 1 , 1 Mr. R. PA L MER . defended the character of the bishop, him that any bishop should be censured for rue le•"" and said that ha had done more genuine service, not only tions to those under his charge as to the propriety otps•nav to the cause of religion, but to the political and social ing the civil power for their out rights. (Hear.) interests of the colony, than could possibly be done COMMERCIAL DISTRESS AND CURRENCY by any company here or elsewhere. The colonies- COMMITTEE. lion at New Zealand had presented a favourable The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ate contrast to the colonising efforts clatter countries ; by the found it utterly impossible to include in the comrade ir i aid of the mss ionariee, civilisation and religion had been in- names of all those who, he thought, had a fair claim le P troduoed, amidst much persecution from the natives ; and on it ; but he would ask the permission of the nee! upon the foundation they laid, the government had been en- allow the committee to consist of twenty-six eminele e' - abled to build its political system. The advantages thus de- stead of twenty. Twenty-six was the number that se° rived were owing to the missionaries. (Hear.) It was tree the committee of 1840-41. there might be instances amongst them, as amongst other men, Mr. HOME said there was not a man in the City d__,JA'' in which seal had outrun discretion. The high character don who did not confider this ceencaittee es s ow* of the aborigines had been manifested even by the humane cloak. Mean hear.) He did not see any occasion feet way in which they Ind conducted th eir wars. The bishop mating the number of the committee beyoud lee"' NEW ZEALAND.. Mr. GLADSTONE asked the right bon. gentleman the President of the Board of Trade if it was his intention to bring on the bill relating to New Zealand that evening ? Mr. LABOUCHERE.—It is my intention to bring it on this evening. TURNPIKE TRUSTS. Sir W. JOLLIFFE rhea if it was the intention of the government, in the present sedition, to bring in • bill for the regulation of turnpike trusts and highways; and if it was intended to incorporate the subject in a general highway act? Sir G. GREY said a bill bad been prepared on the sub ject, and was sow under the consideration of the government. THE CHANNEL, ISLANDS. In reply to a question from Mr. W. P. WOOD Sr G. GREY said that the report of the eeMissioners he inquiring Moan MO slim la Ihe ChneM bhp*. as it as Jersey was wooed, bat bons mobelett sail hit Isdistinnt Ist union. The row% with relation to bolsolvellbm received, sem Islay having taken pleas esetion ; but he hoped it would be ready by the time of tie meeting of parliament after the recess. Dr. SORBING asked if it was intended that the com missioners should extend their inquiries into the operation of the civil law in the Channel Islands ? Sr G. GREY said that until the inquiry u to the entininsil law was completed, it would be premature to insti tute any inquiry as to the operation of the civil law. Dr. BOW RING expressed a hope that a similar inquiry meld be directed te be made with respect to the operation of the civil and criminal law in the Isle of Man. COMMERCIAL DISTRESS. Lard G. BENTINCIL inquired at what hour the sled be. baronet the Chancellor of the Exchequer would Wog cable motion for the nomination of the select commit tee en emmeial distress ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that be should brim on the motion after the orders of the day, but at what hear that might be it was impossible for him to my. It was desirable that the committee should be nomi nated u early es pesibbr, so that they might at once order teak returns as they might think lit to call for. He should be glad to bring on the motion after the Crime and Outrages (biked) Bill was disposed of. G Mr. LADSTONE remarked that the right hon. gen damn the President of the Board of Trade had announced bit Maths to bring on the New Zeeland Bill. Mr. CAYLEY inquired whether it was the intention of the hon. member for Montrose (Mr. Hums) to move the resolutions of which he had given notice, as an amendment on the motion for the nomination of the select committee ? Mr. HUME said it certainly wall his intention to press the molutione which stood on the paper in his name. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER expressed a Imps that the hon. member would not pursue so unusual a ISOM The house had already determined that a cam- Wiles &add be appointed, and, the only question that now rammed waswhat members should compose that committee. The ban. member had given notice of a string of seven row fudges, which would re-open the whole question of the stee -1 decd of value, and each of which would at least occupy a week In its discus ion. (Hear, hear.) Mr. URQUHART claimed the indulgence of the house on a matter personal to himself. On Friday lest, the right hon. hart. the member for Temworth, had denied the soca. racy of a statement he (Mr. Urquhart) had made to the [ right hon. hart., that the system of banking in Scotland had been legislated for is 1844, without due nonce That state ' meet had been founded upon the report of the right hon. baronet's speech, as published in the nut neensever. Sir R. PEEL said that there could hare Ms we question as to What had been the intention of the 'vestment, be cause he bad to move a series of resolutiou wen which to found the introduction of the bill. One of the mistier was, that the existing banks in Scotland wadi net be inter fered with, but there was also a positive preildien mein the establishment of any new banks sifter the posy et the bill of 1644. These resolutions had been printed, sad Ise (Sir R. Peel) had mural communications with Sestet bankers upon them. CRIMES AND OUTRAGES (IRELAND) BILL. Sir 0. OR EY moved that the Crimes and Outrages (Ire land) Bill be now read a third time. Wrig the met (110 to b thei 4th