The Express. — London, England, 1848-08-29 00:00:00

_ Mr. REYNOLDS supported the bill on the understanding that it was to be on temporary in its character. He oon curved fully in the censure which bad been passed on Mr. Pratt's report. Sir D. NORREYS inquired why Mr. Pratt's report bad not been submitted to the savings bank committee ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it had been submitted to the committee. Mr. HUME had attended four out of the nine sittings of the committee, and had heard nothing of the report. Mr. lIERBERT also denied having seen the report. Mr. G. CRAIG said that h e had seen the report, and it had excited much of his attention. Mr. KEOGH trusted that the bill would he postponed to • future session. The house had not had sufficient time for the consideration of so important a measure. Mr. BRO ritERTON deprecated such discussons as cal culated to create • great deal of unnecessary alarm. Ile was oonnetted with ORO of the largest savings banks in the king dom, and considered the liability of the trustees quite suf ficient. Col. THO?dPSON was much surprised to hear that 'livings banks could become insolvent. Ho had always understood that their etcurity was as good as that of the government. If not so, government should make it so atouce by ...ndertaking the liabilit After som y. e further coeversation the bill was read a second time. The house adjourned at a quarter to 3 till 5 o'clock. The house resumed at 5 o'clock. CHELTENHAM ELECTION. On the motion of Mr. roomy it was ordered " That Mr. Speaker do issue his warrant to the clerk of the crown in to make out a new writ fur the elecing of a burgesa to serve this present parliament for the borough of Cheltenham, in the room of the Hon. Craven Berkeley, whose election has been determined to be void." OCEAN MONARCH. Mr. HUME said that his remarks on Saturday with relation to the loss of the Ocean Moivrch, had cast what he then considered a merited reflection on the captain of he Cambria steamer. He had sines had an inter view with the hon. member for Anglesey, who had put it to his hands a letter from the captain of that steamer, which entirely cleared him from any ioipu tenon upon his humanity or his eourege. t Hear, hear.) It appeared that at the time this officer first saw the Ocean Monarch in fl imes, he Was on hi . way to Liver. pool with 200 passengers and a large quantity of cattle, and that having only just sufficient coals to enable him to get into p-rt, he could not have put back to the Ocean Monarch, then distant from him twelve miles, without narrowly en dangering the safety of his owe steamer upon that dangerous coast, and he therefore went on hie way, the less reluctantly that be saw three ships making towar.'a the burning vessel. The hon. gentlemaa repeated his question of Saturday whe ther the Board of Trade iotend_d to make any inquiry into the circumstances attending this lamentable catastrophe ? Mr. LABOUCHERE said that the Board of Trade was only empowered to ineestigate the circumstances attending the loss of British steamers. As the unfortunate Ocean Monarch was an American sailing skip, the Board of Trade had no jurisdiction in the case. Mr. HUME observed that had such an accident happened on the coast of the Baltic. or indeed up almost any foreign shore, an inquiry would have been made by the local government. Mr. lIA.WES begged to inform the hon. gentleman, that on Saturday one of the emigration commissioners had been d.spatchea to Liverpool, to render all the assistance in his power tithe survivors. towards which object lie had taken with him 2001. out of the funds in the hands of the. commis sioners. (Hear, hear.) Arrangements; had lien made to transmit these unfortunate persons as speedily as possible to their destination. (Hear, hear.) He regretted to add that while the loss of life had been so great on the occasion, the lOU of property also had been very heavy, indeed reaching to no leas an amount. he I),lieved.than 20,0001. SLIGO ELECTION. The SPEAKER informed the house that the recognitanceo entered into for prosecuting the petition against the late re turn for Sligo were unexceptionable. SPIRIT DEALERS BILL. On the motion that the house go into committee on this Cap , . PEC HELL compmi .ed of the delays which had protrr-• 'd this bill to so late a period of the session, and of the determination now evinced recklessly to urge it forward without a due care of the important interests concerned. Tr, CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the delay had been occasioned precisely by the desire, ex pre. s d from time to time, to suggest alterations in the pro visiors of the measure, and to the desire on the part of the gov-rtment to give every &tuition to these suggestions. Mr. MAcomiloott and Mr. BERNAL testified to the at tention they hid, on the part of deputations of spirit deal ers. esperienced at the hand. of the right hon. gentleman. Ti.'. house then went into committee on the bill. PECHELL denied that the delay had arisen from any narrations made in the ha: on behalf of the spirit dea:ers, and again complained of the state of suspense in which the trade had been so long kept. Clause 25 was then read, whereby a penalty of 251. is im poses on any person found carrying one gallon of spirits without a permit, and authorising a policeman to apprehend and carry before a magistrate any one so offenling, and on conviction imposing the above tine or ail months' imprison ment with hard labour. Mr. HUME objected to the creation of so many thousand excise officers as the present clause called into existence. Lord G. BENTINCK said that the penalty or the alter native confinement was intoleralne and ought to be reduced. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER expressed his willingness to reduce ;he penalty to 101., with three months imprisonment. Mr. HUME moved that the penalty be fixed at 1001. with liberty to the magistrate to reduce it according so his dis cretion. The committee divided—For the original clause 51 For the amendment .. 33-18 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed that the minimum penalty of 101. oe imposed on each con viction. Mr. HUME moved that the justice be empowered to miti gate the penalty to any amount at his discretion. Mr. HENLEY maid that the system of minimum penalties was a very had une, sot ought t, be abolished. Magistrates ought t. have a discretionary power of mitigating penalties. He entirely agreed with toe hon. member to: Montrose that it was a monstrous thing to create en many thousand excise officers out of a class of persons certainly not qualified to ex ercise the duties of excise officers. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the amendment now proposed bad teen already decided on by the previous division. The committee divided—For the original clause 56 For the amendment . 31-25 Mr. HUME would retain the maximum of punishment, but thought the minimum should be sun* out. There migh, be cues in which the magistrates would wish to dim. pease with punishment altogether. Mr. HENLEY was of a simiou opinion. Mr. FORBES moved that as ... minimum " one hour " be inserted. The gallery was cleared for a division, but none took place. On our return we found that t he clause had been agreed to. The remaining clauses w,re agreed to, and the house re sumed. BRITISH SPIRITS WAREHOUSING BILL. On the order of the dory tor the committee on this bill, Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL., iti:ttie absence of Mr. Moffatt, nr , v il as au instruci in 1., :tie c o mmittee, " That they have pow,r to extend the proVIRIO:111 of the bill, so tar as to apply to spirits distilled in the Uniren. Kingdom, the privileges At present enjoyed by the Owners (01 foreign and co.onial spirit., in r-spect . f the mode and time of levying the dutiescharge able thereon." His object wis to give to the British distiller the same indulgence as was enjoyed by the foreign and colonial producer. When the privilege of paying duty out of bond was being granted to the latter it was ascertained that of 3.50 gallons of foreign brandy bonded, only 29'J remain ed on being taken out at bond at the expiration of tire years. From that calculation the house might guess what ware the loas, suffired by the Briish distillers under tha present system. (Hear, hear.) Toe right hon. ge ntlemannte the Chancellor of the Exchequer, when asked con cede this boon, nail refused, on the ground that ths British distiller had equivalent advantages in the i seise regalationa. Thin was vrange doctrine that excise regulations were an advantage to the dealer. Sir R. Feel thougnt differently, ter, •on removing the glass duties, he considered the advantage of treeing the trade trout restrih ti sari greater than the amount of duty repealed. The only feasible ground on which the alteration was opposed was that it could be imp i.sible to prevent fraud in the passage 01 Ili. spirits from tilt worm s mouth to toe Iraided win , bout' but the chairme b.if i •,f cx :iill and ruitorne hid gm o their opinion that :,,c,,r se urity might bo taken ,irai , ..,t freed. One otter ground nn wait, he wised the ugh' lien. gentleman to accede to his propsition was that the c Timmer would be much benefited by the alteration. At present the interest of the distiller was to get his spirits into c snsumption as anon as possible, whereas, if allowed to pay duty out of bond be could allow it to remain and acquire that purity which was only attainable by age. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it Was not he who attached any value, as regarded the distiller, to excise regulations, but his predecessor in office. With regard to the motion, his hon. friend, in proposing it, sought to put the excise regulations on the same tooting as the CUS tom , while the fact was tha; they were essentially different. With regard to the customs, the policy of this country had always been to encourage in every way the importation of foreign goods in transitu, so as to make our warehouses as far as possible a depot for the rest of Europe. la the case of the I , excise a precisely contrary principle was in operation. The , duty was levied on articles of home manufacture and for , 1 home consumption, and the great object was to levy the duty at the earliest possible period. no as to relieve the trade from all restrictions as soon as possible. The boon had been asked before and had been refused on the opinion of two eminent distillers, who had declared that if it were conceded the prevention of fraud would be impossible. On these grounds he felt bound to resist the motion of his hon. friend. The maximum lose to the revenue, were the duty collected as proposed by the hon. gentleman's motion, might be as much as 118,0001. in a year. 'this was a love which he could not risk. (Hear, bear.) With regard to o the advantage to the consumer in enabling him to consume old instead of new spirits, it was only just, if a better article were given, that a higher duty should be paid. In every other respect but the period of levying the duty the bill was from one end to the other a bill of relaxation, and a removal of restrictions from the British distillers, by allowing the full amount of duty as draw . oick, the sweetening and flavouring in the warehouse, the transfer of spirits in bond, and giving other facilities which heretofore had not existed. Mr. MONSELL admitted that the relaxations which this bill would effect were important, and that they had , given great satisfaction, especially in Ireland ; but the question was whether the arrangement. which had been made We swim did give a protective duty in favour of colonial and against Irish and Scotch spirit' or not? He contended that they did to the amount of at least 3d. or 4d. a gallon, and the Irish aid Scotch distille co lo niallymuch rather be placed in the same position to tee tiller in regard to the duty on the decreases and waste than have • protection whit& was merely nominal. Mr. D. CALLAGHAN supported the amendment. The only diftereato between the Chancellor of the Exchequer was as to the duty on the decreases. It was a great tax on the distiller, who depended on the home trade, to be com pelled to pay duty on that portion of the spirit which evatio oersted end was lost. He could see no danger to the reve nue in levying the deity on the said.. when it come out of the w rehouse instead of at the worm's end. The altera tion in the duties on colonial spirits h ad placed the Irish sod Scotch distillers in a worse position in regard to this waste than they were in before. Mr. J. O'CONNELL said the only argument the Chan tenor of the Exchequer had advanced against the motion was that in his opinion it was an advantage to the revenue that the Irish and Scotch distillers should be robbed. (A laugh.) Lot d G. BENTINCK observed that the argument of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that it was en advantage to all parties that the duty should be levied at the earliest possible period, might be true in regard to soap, malt, and other articles on which there was no waste by evaporation or leak age, and upon which the duty, whenever paid,. was paid only upon so much of the article as found its way into consump tion. But the complaint of the distillers was that by the system of levying the duty they had to pay not only upon that which was so'd, but upon that which never came into consumption, but which was lost by ev aporation and leak age. (Hear.) The right hon. gent leman said it was only right that as the spirit improved in quality by age a higher rate of duty should be paid by the consumer ; but ought not that rule to apply equally to foreign and colonial spirits—to brandy, hollands, and rum as well as to Brit i,h spirits ? (Hear, hear.) All that the British distiller asked was that the same favour should be extended to British spirits that the foreign colonial received, and that he might not he subjected to the grinding extortions of the excise but be placed ender the control of the customs. That was the recommendation of Sir H. Parnell's committee in 1833, and the commissioners of excise, who showed that the loos to the distiller by leakage and evaporation was equal to 5 rut cent. in strength, and as much in bulk. The right hon. gentleman had otimated the pos , ible less to the revenue by the change now proposed at 118,0001. The right hon. gentleman was certainly a most extraordi nary Chancellor of the Exchequer, for when it was neces sary to argue the case against the British, and in favour of the colonial distiller, he showed that the leakage and waste were next to nothing, but when it was propos-el to place the British distiller on a footing of equality with the foreign or colonial competitor, then the leakage and wastage were ex ceedingly !mg.?. I Hear, and a laugh.) The right hon. gentleman was like the traveller in the fable, who alarmed the satyr by warming his fingers and cooling his porridge with the same breath. When it suited the right hon. gen tleman's purpose to favour colonial spirits on the 17th June last the whole loss from leakage and evaporation was 27,0921., but now it was 118,0001. According to • return male by Mr. Williams, member for W.rcester, the sum total he brought into stock charged with duty was 41,988 gallons, and the amount he sent out of stock 33,958 gallons, ' , owing that there was a loss of duty on the difference ba 'he quantity brought into and seat out of stock amount _ iallons6G.oo per cent. In the same way Mr. Brow.. ing, of L, don, imported 297,881 gallons, and sent out 2'23,886 gallons, showing • loss of duty on 74.000. All he wanted was that the distillers of Irelepd and Scotland should be treated as thou of foreign countries and the colonies as re garded the decreases and the mode of taking the gauges. Mr. REYNOLDS believed that a roiliest of the request cottlitied ie the amendment would do much to make con verts amongst the most respectable classes in Irelali to the question of a domestic parliament. The bill he nevertheless believed to be a good one so far as it went. Mr. M-0 REGOR hoped the time was not far distant when the duty on spirits would be assimilated in the three king doms, but pending that measure he thought the present bill necessary, and hoped there would he no division on it. After • few words from Mr. HUME in support of the bill, Col. DUNNE said he thought the bill a good one, but felt the nice Mty of the amendment, and would support it. Mr. DI:NCOMBE opposed the bill as contrary to the principles of tree trade. The house divided—For the motion 37 Against it • twccn tl I igto 2 The house then went into committee, The clauses were agreed to with a few verbal amendments, and the bill pwsed through committee, and was ordered to be reported COPPER AND LEAD DUTIES BILL. On the motion that the bell be read • second time, Lord G. BENTINCH moved that the bill be read a se cond time that day six menthe. The bill had been po.tponed two-Ind-thirty times, and he must supmee, from the manner in which the government had delayed the second reading lentil that late period of the session, that they had no great nfidenee in its merits, but relied upon the majority which • government always had at its command to pass it. Re objected to the bill on many grounds. He objected to the bill because it was most indecorous, when • government was in a state almost of insolvency, when it was obliged to borrow two millions of money in order to make up &de ficiency— that it should be squandering away an part of its revenues by removing restrictions of the kind. He objected to the bill because it was unnecessarily diminishing • revenue that was altogether insufficient for the expenditure of the nation. He objected to it because it was another step taken by the government towards raising the taxes of the country in a direct rather than an indirect manner. He objected to it because, in his opinion, the customs duties were those which pressed the liehtest on the people of the country; that they were the taxes which were levied principally on the industry of foreigners, and the burden of which they shared with the people of this country. Therefore, if taxes mi.et be paid, every million that could be raised by customs was to some extent at the expense of the foreign producer. He objected to the bill on another ground, viz., that it was • removal of that just protection which the minces of Corn wall were entitled to from the government. The present tax was one which ad valorem amounted to no more than 6 per cent. on the produce which wits made the subject of it. New, if there was • tax which pressed more lightly than another on the trade and industrial resources of the country it was a tax of that description ; and he was glad to see the hon. member for Portsmouth (Sir F. Baring) in his place, as he hoped that be would vindicate the principle of the whig government when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer, which was the principle of levying all the taxes from the customs duties. And he hoped that he (Sir F. Baring) would warn them, as he had before lone, of the disastrous consequences of deputing from that prin ciple. The tax in question, smite as it was, was oue that concerned the subsistence of more than 22,000 persons, who represented with their famili. a nearly 100,000 souls. He thought that, on that account, they should not lightly deal with or throw away a tax that, while it in creased the revenue, protected the means of subsistence of so large a portion of the people. He could state with great truth that the miners of Cornwall never were in a lower condition than now—(hear, hear), and that there never was • moment when there was less claim on the part of the smelters of Swansea and elsewhere to make demands. He was prepared to show them that, while on the one hand the prices of cooper ore had fallen to an extent lower than ever was before known, the price of fine copper produced from it bad not fallen in anything like the same proportion : on the contrary, it had risen while the other bed alien. He would also be able to s'.ow that there was at the pres tit time a difference between the price of ere and ii. fine copper of 22 percent. The smelters, who asked for the boon, were a powerful body, strongly represented en the house ; but there never was a more complete monopoly than that which they exercised. It was to add still narther to the unjust gains of that great monopoly that her Majesty's ministers proposed to reduce the small duty et 6 per cent. ad valorens on the produce of Cuba, where the cow er was produced by slaves, and also on that of Chili. This cuntry had colonies also that were interested in the subject. Now he did not object to admit the produce of the colonies free ; and if he Mt not Buse - d in throwing out the bill he would be prepared to support amendments in committee which should have the effect of having the produce of tho colonies untouched, aud the tax: imposed only: on the produce of foreign countries. The bon. memb. r proceeded to refer to the arguments used on • recent occasion by the Under Secretary of State for the Co lonies in defending the government mid himself from an atrack made by the hon. member for Southwark. The hon. gentleman slid that their colonies were generally contented, but they should take care that they did not make them discontented by cutting off from them the markets which they now punned. They had tne means of giving employment in the miners of Australia to those Irish la bourer' who came into such injurious competition with the labourers of Lancashire and York,hie e„ if they did ant allow foreigners to occupy the home markt t. The British subjects in Australia could not meet the misers of Cuba and Chili on equal terms on account of the greater distance of the former from this country. They had besides this additional disad vantage to contend against, that the mines were situated at a greater, distance from the port of shipment. It was not hie intention to protect the miners of Corn would say • few words on the present condition and prospects of the miners of Cornwall. The price of cop per ore at the hat midsummer quarter, was 11 per cent. lower than at the commencement tit the year. It was lower by 18 per cent. than it was in 1847. It was lower by 2.5 per cent. than the average of the last 15 years The effect of that reduction of ore on the miners of Cornwall was equal to 17s. Id. on every ton of ore raised. The quantity of ore annually raised was about 50,000 tons, and she number of persons employed in raising it 22 000, so that it was easy to calculate the lees from this reduction to every miner en gaged. He was sorry to say that a large portion of the food of the Cornish miners consisted of potatoes. The noble lord here read an a rticle from the Cornwall Gazette, which stated that the potatoes in Cornwall were very much affected by the disease, whiM, coupled with the measures of the go vernment, would reduce them to great distress and wretched ness. He wa' assured by personsconnected with Cornwall tbat if the government persisted in this measure—if in the hour of their struggle with she diseeneations of providence and the scourge of famine they forced this measure on the miners of Cornwell they would find Cornwall another Ireland. Hear, hear.) He would ask the noble lord if he was pre pared, for the sake of carrying out a miserable abstract principle, to run the risk of putting one of the counties of England, the inhabitants of which were at remarkable for their loyalty and attachment to the crown as they were for peaceful industry, in the same condition in which they found the people of Ireland ) (Hear, hear.) And folewhat ? To support • monopoly (hear, hear) one of the greenest that existed in this country—ta support those who had invested money in foreign mines. (Hear.) He supposed it would be said that the smelting trade was leaving them, and that the government were now making a 1.4 e ff ort to prawn It by this measure. Its, however, THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 29, 1848. would be able to show that there was nothing sound in that argument, hat that if they persevered in this measure the smelting trade would go to Hamburg, France, or the United States. They limited on in this °oust/ to the amount of 400 tons. In France they smelted about 10 ton. To smelt Chili ore 12 tons of sail were required ; for Calm ore from 14 to 16 tons ; for Cornish ore 90 tons. But the price of ' coal in Swansea was only 4s. a ton ; in France the average Price was li 2a. • tae which made a difference of 101. 164. the ton of ore. In Hamburg, the price of coal was 16s a ton, which made a difference of 71. 10s. in the ion of ore in favour of the Swansea 'metiers. (Hear, hear.) In the Unit. d States, the average price of coal was 315. 6d. per ton, making a protection of 161. 10s. per tone of ore. It was pi rfecily ridiculous, then, to suppose that an ad valorem duty of G per cent. on the ore could make any fference to thi. smelting trade. But, on this question, as ou so many others, he had to arraign the accuracy of the returns of the board of trade; and somehow or °Vt.?, it always happened that these inaccuracies were iu favour of the particular views supported by the government. (Hear.) In the accounts relating to trade and navigation for the six months ending sth July last, the quantity of copper Imported was only 1,319 tons; in the like period for 1846, it had been 5,162 tons; and in 1847, 4,017 tons. Well might the house be in dismay at the prospect of the trade thus leavieg us. This return for 1848 was signed "A. W. Fonblanque;" but there was every reason to believe that the quantity of metal imported was not 1,319, but 5,39.1 tons. In fort, upwards of 27,000 tons of copper ore were imported in that period, which, accordion to the return, had only pro• duced 4 per cent, of copper ; while, in the former years, the ore bad produced 20 or 21 per cent, of metal It was a matter of no small importance that the Board of Trade should be producing uch misrepresentations. By means of these the government had succeeded in carrying the house with them in their fret-trade measures ; and now, in these last days of August, they sought to throw away 23,0001. of revenue, with the eitchi quer in a state of beggary, and the Chancellor obliged to create stock to make up the deficiency, lie charged them with misleading the house with false statistics, and thus inducing the ruin of our home industry. He moved that the bill should be read a second time that day six ----...------ --- 7 . hire of chandeliers, probable expenses' 'crt 11 liangN 1 hit -loth, suits, arc., the house must have Wilma& to the edigational votes with the air of a risen wilo has done a virtuous action. The debate presented some few features of in terest. Oar readers have been made aware from time to time of the difficulties which have been raised by the National Society, with regard to the terms upon which it will accept the assistance of the state in the foundation and support of schools. 11'e have always eeserted that the claims made by that society are in the last degree unreasonable, and should not be granted, and also that the attempts to attach stricter meaning to the term " member of the church of England" in the management clauses than was contemplated by those who inserted the words. will, if successful, result in the exclusion of all non-com municants from any participation in the ma nagement of church schools. Trio Bishop of EXETER and the high church party pretend that since every English Christiania presuma bly a member of the church of England, it is necessary that some more accurate definition should be employed when church membership is to give pri vileges, such as right of interference with church edu cation. It is proposed, in consequence, to limit such right to persons who can prove that they have re ceived the sacrament constantly for a period of three years. With respect, then, to the management of church schools, all non-communicating churchmen will be excommunicated. The effect of this in the great majority of parishes will be to throw the manage ment of the schools into the hands of the clergymen and an infinitesimally small fraction of the parishioners. It was to this difficulty Mr. GLADSTONE alluded in the course of the discussion on Lord MELGCND'S resolutions, in one of those characteristic speeches of his, of which it is impossible to predicate to which side of the argument it leans. A chance expression seemed, however, to indicate that the ho nourable gentleman, after h aving done more than any layman in England to disseminate the most ultra high church principles, differing by an almost imper ceptible shade from ItOmanism, is about to leave his friends in the mire to which they have beer. intro duced by his will-o'-the-wisp-Ile Sittings. Sir GEORGE GREY having asked what the honourable gentleman thought of Mr. VENISON, Mr. GLADSTONE replied that " Mr. VENISON was a most worthy and excellent man ; but he represented with regard to this particular subject the moat rigid form of opinion. A more honourable man, in his opinion, did not exist ; but his opinions were not to be taken as a sample of those entertained generally by . the clergy." Now Mr. GLADSTONE here knowingly shirks the question at issue, which is not whether Mr. DENISON represents the opinions generally entertained by the clergy, but by those clergy men who decide upon the course of conduct to te taken by the National Society. And a glance at the late proceedings of the society will show that Mr. Deeisost is a very correct exponent of its principles. The former proceedings of the National Society with respect to this question are familiar to the readers of the Daily News. It was perfectly clear that at the last great meeting the whole body of the clingy pre sent, with a very few exceptions, were of one 5 pinion —nem , ly, that held by Mr. VENISON, whose aim it wie , in his speech to prove the thesis expressed in his own words thus, " that to a churchman religious educa tion has no meaning apart from the preservation in all its integrity of the dogmatic teaching of the church." We should deny the truth of this thesis in general terms. We should be very unwilling to believe that a churchman can have no idea of reli gious education unconuectecT with the dogmatic 1 teaching of the church. To those churchmen, how ever, who see nothing repugnant in Mr. DENISON'ei proposition, we would observe that, allowing it to be true, the difficulty arises where are we to look for the dogmatic teaching of the church ? There is nothing more certain than th I there are two parties in the church who severally hold doctrines which differ as widely as those of any two sects in the empire. Of such importance are these doctrines held to be that the Bishop of EXETER devotes a charge almost ex clusively to a reply to a statement from a clergy man of the opposite party. Mr. DeNtsoN has attached himself unreservedly to one of these parties, and there is no probability that the National Society will with draw from the position which it has taken in conjunc tion with that gentleman. In the very last number of the Guardian, a paper which is distinguished for its earnest advocacy of high-church principles, Mr. DENtsoN has published a letter, in which he speaks as magniloquently as ever of the justice of the claims of hie party. " It'," he says, " the committee of coun cil are really desirous to maintain the integrity of church teaching and discipline in church schools, they will pursue a very different Course from that which they have . persevered in hitherto—they will leave it altogether in the hands of the church to say what shall be taught in her schools, and how it shall be taught without let or interference direct or in direct." Now, if we read for " church" the words Puseyite party, we shall have a correct idea of the notions and views of Mr. VENISON and the Na tional Society on the subject of church school manage ment. They have established a Puseyite college, they advocate Puseyite measures, and they con template a favourable reaction on the church by means of a body of Puseyite schoolmasters. It is for this purpose that the novel iuterpretation of the words, member of the church of England, is insisted on. The next thing to having the whole business of education confined to the clergy, is to allow only the introduction into committees of men who are most often in connexion with the clergy, and of whom the whole number is so small, that no roomis left for choice. Mr. GLADSTONE seemed to intimate that the extra vagant assumptions of Mr. DENISON and his party were repudiated, but spoke in such a manner as to warrant he belief that concessions would be made, and Lord JOHN wound up by insinuating that the differences were on the point of being reconciled to the satisfaction of both parties. Our own opinion is that the rampant party will be satisfied with no th'ng less than an actual or virtual recognition of the principle of their claim ; and that any little incident u hie& may appear to give a different colouring to the pact between the government and the society will be introduced to mislead the public. Such an inci dent would be the snubbing of Mr. Derrisno—an operation which that gentleman will doubtless submit to with infinite meekness, if the substantial claims of the society are accorded. We are of opinion that so much of the correspondence as would have enabled the public to judge of the nature of the concessions made to the society should have been laid before the house, in order to show whether any essential princi ple had been yielded by the government. The only other interesting feature of the discos- 1 sion on the miscellaneous esti mates, in which this question was raised, arose on the question of the vote to the universities. Mr. OsrioeNE di vided the house on the vote, making the objec tion to which not a shadow of a reply was attempted—namely, that the money was consumed in paying salaries for which ao re rvices were received. Mr. GOULBURS thought that the money was very in siviificant in amount, and that Professors SEDGWICK, WlLLic', and LEE were such estimable men, that no objection ought be raised ; a mode of defence which would. apologise for the indefinite extension of the pend.on list. An irregular discussion then arose on the exclusion of dissenters from the uni ver skies. Lord JOIIN came forward with a pr oposition for doing away with the hardship 0'; exclusion which struck us as peculiarly plea , ant, and essentially Whiggish—half-and-half , namely. lie hopes to be able to state to the house next year that an arrangement has been made between the two great universities on the one side, and the university of London on the other, by which dissenters shall re ceive their education at the former universities, and their degrees at the latter! The universities of Oxford and Cambridge will thus assist in the education of men whom they will a ft erwards refuse to recognise as members of their body. .. . ... • than three with the temper of the age ; whereas formerly the men considered it a fine thing to cut "chapels," and various other antiquated rem , pants of medimval discipline, and they . have now, in obedience to the new fashion of university life which has followed, as the consequence of the teaching of the new school, agreed for the time to consider it a fine thing to keep "chapels," &e. Mr. GLADSTONE would have us to look upon this change as the evi dence that the collegiate system is a living reality. Had he been an undergraduate at the University of Cambridge in the year 1837, when the great body of the men were occupied in writing and reading squibs against the system of cha &c., he would have talked of a living reality of a different kind. The change in the habits , 1 of the men must be put down to Nothing more nor less than fashion. The debate presented no more features of interest. Little was said on the possibility of a general system of education, although the subject was not entirely neglected. Enough was said to esanre us that the question is not at rest, and that members, it not from their own convictions, at least from a pres sure from without, will soon feel that the settlement of this question is bound up with the great interests of the empire. montis. Mr. WYLD, in seconding the motion, said this bill had been before the house 10 weeks, and had been 32 times on the notice paper. It bad been postponed to a very late period in the session, and there were now only two members present connected with Cornwall. That county, if the bill passed, would ba reduced to ruin and beggary. It contained a population of 118,000, entirely dependent for their sub sistence on its mineral productions. Within the last two or three months a very rapid importation of foreign ores had taken place—a foretaste of the effects that would be pro duced by the bill. Already the miners complained, in peti tions to the house,of the loss of their trade, in consequence of the proposal this bill. Wages had been reduced, and many had been thrown outof work. What, then,might be the effect of the law when actually in operation ? The case of the miners differed essentially from that of manufactures thrown out of work, who might obtain work elsewhere; but with the miners this was impossible, for the facility with which wee were produced in Cuba, Chili, and elsewhere, set all compe tition at defiance. This wan a question aff-cting a large por tion of the population, and one that would seriously affect the revenue. Between 1844 and 1547 ores to the value of 4,157,0001. had been raised in Cornwall: of this sum 2,546,1331 was paid for labour, or about 60 per cent. In foreign mines the cost of labour bore no such proportion. The proposed measure would entail a loss of 110,0001. per annum in the employment of the population in Curner..ll. lie would simply oak the question whether it was not better to encourage •his traffic. which gave encouragement to English labour and English capital, than to promote the in terests of the Chili and Cuba miners. With the statistics al ready betoro Om house there had been no ground shown for such an organic change as was proposed by this bill. On all the grounds set forth in the numerous petitions which had been presented from the districts most seriously affected by this measure he most cordially joined the noble lord, the member for Lynn (Lord G. Bentinek) in opposing the fur ther progress of the bill. Mr. LABOUCHERE said the bill had been already so fully discussed, that he felt it to be urines...wary to detain the house with any denoted argument in answer to the noble lord and hon. g.ntlensati opposite. He cintended that theme duties had been gradually diminishing year after year, until they bad fallen to an amount of a most insignificantcharacter. He vindicated Mr. Finblanque from the imputation so coarsely advanced agaiest him by the noble lord, and el timed for that gentleman the respect due to established talent and high character. As to the interest of the smelters of this country, be had no fear that this measure would in terfere with their legitimate prosperity. The true interest of the Cornish miners was to see England continue the great scene of copper smelting, whicn it certainly would not be unless the restrictions imposed by the existing duties were removed. Mr. HENLEY supported the amend rent. Col. THOMPSON said that after listening to the Ile menu on the other side he could only come to the conclusion that it was &sited to put down the foreign trade in eorp r, in order to favour the miners in Cornwall. There appeared to be short commons amongst the miners in Cornwall, but was there not also went among the weavers of Bradford % He was sure that if hon. gentlemen considered his plea for the manufacturers of Bradford they would admit there was some fairness in claiming for them the right of exchanging their manufactures against the copper of other countries. Mr. NEWDEGATE said that ministers had pressed this bill in the knowledge that the session was so far advanced, and the sittings of the house were so prolonged, that all the independent members were absent, and the arguments urged against their measures were lost, so that they got them paired without much difficulty and without having the debates brought under the notice of the public. Some of his con stituents iu Birmingham had exprewied their approval of the bill, but he would never mist them in depriving other industrious classes of their occupation, which the measure would do. Ma. BROWN supported the bill, and contended that the declining state of the copper trade called for an alteration in the duty on foreign ores. lie di i not tsar that the bill would throw a single Cornish miner out of employment. Many of that body were in great distress at present, but de pression was the symptom of every branch of trade. Mr. HUNT?. considered that, with respect to the copper duties, the only fault that could be laid to the door of the government was their having delayed alteration so long. As a part of the general scheme of free trade, be gave the pre sent measure his cordial and hearty support. After a few words from Cant. Ni Tee, Mr. P. CAREW said that the people of Cornwall were in such distress that there was every probability measures simi lar to those which had been already panned for the Irish would be required on their behalf in the approaching winter. He opposed the bill so tending very much to increase that di tress. Mr. TURNER denied that the number of miners in Corn wall was so great as had been stated by the noble lord oppo• site. It was a remarkable fact that not a single petition had been presented trim the mining interest against this bill. (Rear, hear.) In his opinion the preponderating feeling of that interest was in its favour; and therefore he felt fully justified in giving it his support. Mr. MACGREGOR also spoke is favour of the bill, but in consequence of the continued interruptions and calls for a division, his observations were generally inaudible. Mr. E. VIVIAN opposed the measure as injurious to the mining interests of Cornwall, After some observations in'esplanation rem Mr. NEWDE OATE, Mr. Canaw,lnd Mr. TURNER, The house divide'—For the the ame second redment .adii g 77 For n... 21—b13 The bill was then read a second time, to be committed this day. DISTILLING FROM SUGAR BILL. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, the house then went into committee on this bill. Ihe vari ous clauses were played ; the bill was ordered to be re ported this day ; and the house adjourned at 2 o'emck. IfORSILAM ELECTION COMMITTEE, YESTERDAY. — Rebutting evident* in Wont of Mr. Fitsnerald continued. gilt OrprOlS. MAILS. The mails for New South Wales, Van Gieman's Land, and New Zealand will be made up on the evening of the 314 AUITW.t. The mulls for the West Coast of Africa and Madeira will be made' up on the evening of the 314 August. Me mails for British North America, and the United States will be made up the evening of the let Sept. The Wait India Mails, including Bermuda, Nassau, Havana, Honduras, New Orlea Vera Crus, Tampico, and Porto Rico, and excluding throe for Ma d eira, Jactnel, Carthseen , , Kant. Martha, Chaves, Panama, Wert. Coast ol booth AMOY EON end St. Juan-de- Nicaragua, will be made up on the morning of the led Sept. The mails for the Omits, the River Plate, Monte Video, Pernam buco, Bahia, Madeira, and Buenos Ayres, will he made up on the evening of the 4th September. The malls for Vigo, Oporto, Lisboa, Madeira, Calls, and Gibraltar will be made up on the morning of the ith Sept. The overland doted mil% ma Kamilla% to the Mediterranean, Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, India, Hong-Kong, g m ., will be made up on the evening of the ltla September. The overland malls for Gibraltar, Malta, Orem, the lonian Wands, Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, India, Rang-Kong, and China, cis Southway ton, will be made up on the evening of the 30th Sept. NOTICE TO ADVERTISERS. 1; The number of theSTAMPS DAILY NBWS was 3.447,009 This, we believe, is within eight per cent . o f the numbs,. Issued to the M orning Herald, Morning Chroniek, to 1 Morning! Poet, ALL PUT TOOIITHAR. In a ddition to the above, issued to the DAILY NEN' , Morning Paper, there were issued for the intening Edit TUB SINLESS 778 714. Which was more, we believe, than were iss ue d sit' oar to Globe or Mosorkird. livening Papers. 81011 WATII AT ILAVIDOrI 11111. D 0 1. Ten Dee—N.... le el. erg 1 1 Aftereesa W vela W. I To. ..--Aloreteg, if eta peel I ; Lasnees. It WA. pea S. and loyalty ; and our opponents are the toe mg conservative clergy of Durham, who have dir ew —who are diverting—that property into their o leo pockets! From this attempt at recovery we are 00 , 0 be turned aside by idle foolish offers of a superaum erar , curate to each colliery, or by the m ean degrod. ' proposal that the church shall be he r at .illi ng to :4 shilling of the coal-owner. Nor can we be th e ,,„ on to a false scent by invitations to discos the qu e . tion (important though it be) whether church pr o , perty shall be revolved into a common fond an d applied to the general purposes of the church, Lei n . regard fi rst to local wants. • When we ha ve reset a from the clergy the property they are cow alienating from the church, we shall gladly enter on its co t e. deration. Bat until we have fiat secured the stol e , goods, we cannot atop to settle what we shall do with them when we have overtaken the runaways ; lee by reason of the delay the thieves rosy r eap , altogether. d TIIERE are of course a n body iiles o t f hr po: h le boasted who som ehow stehtother ie mansion, The herwise. M r. t a he to N 7 ew Forest eguirea d r.e ee h p y l , y win are f of " things as they are." ' , These for the most per e t acquired property to which the Forest is a cal ta ble appendage. The late Mr. MARTIN of G alway bo: before hie own land that respect they ho camee u y l d make drive . t. o t h f ue o pr doort y for Forest . squires cannot quite come up to Mr. Morits' mark in point of distance, but what they want intlia s s could not drive through his estate without re. fleeting that " property had its duties u well as its rights." The New Forest squirearchy can boast that they have all the right s a t property without any of the duties. " Here" one a them may say, " here is an estate kindly kept op by the crown, as if for my special convenience and rm . fort. Here are roads like bowling-greens maintai ne d at great expen e, in order to accommodate my famil y and friends, and the few other persons who may wa n t to go past my lodge gates. Here are herds of de er fattening, under the superintendence of dozens of well-paid officers, in order that I and a few other, who have rights' may obtain a buck just when we require it. Here I can turn out my horses and cows, my pigs, and my geese to any extent I please, batj ar nearly all the trouble and cost of pasturage, and enabling me and my tenants to put all our 6neend under tillage. Here are all my labourers with a pri vilege of cutting fern and faggots, and a right to all the dropped timber they can pick up (and &little that they don't pick up), besides other advantages, so considerable, that of course they do not require anything like the rate of wages paid in other parts of England. Here lam secure from all unpleasant neighbours whatsoever. The crown, represented by my dear friend,' the permanent commissioner,' is next door to me, whichever way I go out. And ' the crown' is such a good-natured neighbour! If I want to take in a piece of land, I have only to talk the matter over a bottle of port with my friend, the permanent,' and the terms are as easy as my chair. l'he acres that are worthless to the crown are valu able to me. In ten years I make a good thing of them, and so I go on, increasing my influence and my manor, and augmenting my importance, both in the forest and the county." Such are the self-congratulations of the squire. No wonder that the moment a whisper is heard of turn ing the forest to a better account you rec,ive from him ' a serious remonstrance.' He will tell you how many thousands he has sunk himself : he will assure you of the toil, the trouble, the expense he has incurred to bring hie land into anything like condition; he will treat you to a geological lecture on " the upper tertiary group," talk of " lower tertiary rising t o the surface, and discourse upon " gravel, and sand, and clay," and " clayey gravel and gravelly sand,'' until you absolutely feel yourself quite prepared to spend an hour with Dr. BECKLAND. He will point out to you that the forest is a waste now, not worth turning to better account; and then ten to one but he con cludes by advising that the government should ex pend half a million in planting all the 50,000 waste acres with young oak, which in 180 years will come to great perfection, and (should timber then be re quired for ship-building) be invaluable, as he will de clare with intense emphasis, in maintaining the maritime superiority of our empire ! But the answer to the squire and his geology is, unfortunately for his argument, a practical one. If the soil of the New Forest is not worth cultivating, why do you cultivate it ? Why do you go on year after year getting a grant of this little bit and that little bit, until at last you get out of the forest a considerable estate ? Suppose the crown will let 3.0 n have more land on easy terms, will you refuse it? Will any body refuse it who knows anything about it ? Setting aside our friend's geological talk about the strata, which is all very well so far as it goes, the fact is, and every Hampshire farmer knows it, that there is not finer land in England than land in the New Forest. No one will pretend to say that it is oil alike. There are good parts and bad parts, as there must be in every large estate of 70,000 acres. Take a prac- tical illustration of the character of the forest land. Every one knows that where furze grows almost anything will grow. There is scarcely a part of the forest waste on which you will not find more or less furze. But there is another practical illustration. The three forest villages of Minetead, Lyndhurst, and Broekenhurst, are situated, as nearly as possible, in the north, centre, and the southern districts orthe forest. Nowhere in the county will you find land n. better cultivation than immediately around these centres. Why should the wastes between or on either side of them be so much less capable of cultivation ? There is a part of the forest ins very peculiar state. In consequence of the exposure of a large extent of surface to the action of the weather, the sweeping winds and pelting rains rob the soil aeon the heights of particles which are transported . to the plains. These being in a state of minute division, and being held suspended in winter until gradually preel pitated, fern a water-tight crust which lays the foundation of a bog or quagmire. " Here is a pretty pace !" our squire would say. " Why, instead of a tree holding here, the ground is unsafe almost for the feet of deer." But it happens that there have hese some railway cuttings through some of these places, and our squire and anybody else may see that the thing is only superficial, and that a fatter loam is scarcely to be found than that under the matey crust which s covers the sludge neglect and ignorance have creted. However, having made the Woods and Forests an offer for the land the other day, we may conclude with the squire by offering him a bargain now. It be won't take the New Forest land, we will find plenty who will. But the New Forest squires are a 'mete set, and will tell a different tale if the crown will only afford them an oppor tunity. No one knows better than one of t he most influential of them what may be done with forest land. Having enclosed from time to time small patches of it, be let it on ten years' leases to he, labourers, at a nominal rant At the end of ten years what has been done with ? Why, the contiguous patches have been thrown into farms of from 50 to 100 sore" each, and let at a very considerable rental. There're farms of (his sort on ono of the most extensive forest manors, from which "my lords" in Whitehall -place may take a most instructive lesson. Thiebaneof a country squirearchy is prejuchoe. If this could but be set aside it is after all doubtful whether. with alltheir " forest rights," the squirearchy of the New Forest would not come to the conclusion that must be gainers by an entire alteration of its system. An industrious and thriving rural population mol l after all, be an infinite blessing. A body of contented labourers subsisting on the wages of their inlustry would be no bad exchange for a miserable, poverty'' stricken set, subsisting on the petty plunder of pn , vote, perhaps, as well as public property. Dins the law, we have been repeatedly asked, really justify the appropriation of the mineral produce of church lands in the diocese of Durham to the in cumbent s for the time being, regardless of the per manent interests of the establishment? Is it possible that it can sanction the alienation of this specks of church property by the clergy? Have the Durham incumbents legal excuses for the pecuniary " waste " they have been and are still committing? Pertinent and important inquiries these. All legal analogies are, as we have already stated, against their practices in regard to minerals. Timber on glebe or other church lands, it is quite a settled point, canno' be cut down by the incumbent for his own private use. S. careful, indeed, is the law of church wood, that in the case of " Strachy v. Francis," Lord HARDWICKE held that though a parson might cut down underwood on his glebe for env purpose, yet that " if he grubbed it up," such grubbing up would be waste, against which the Court of Chancery would protect the living. Timber on church land might always be cut for the purpose of repairing either the church or the parsonage; but there the right of cut ting appears to have rested, until the enactments of the 56 GEO. cap. 52, by which incumbents, with the consent of the patron and bishop, were enabled to cut down timber on glebe land, and to apply the :undo arising from its sale to the purchase either of a parsonage or of other glebe lands. If, then, the grubbing up underwood ou church lands be an act of waste; and if money arising from the sale of timber cut down on glebe land mast be ap;•lied for the permanent benefit of the living; it will not, we presume, be, denied even by a Durham pluralist, that legal analogies are against the alienation of minerals under glebe and church land now going on in that diocese. Still, as the practice of the Durham clergy, from the bishop downwards, has for at least a century been to treat the minerals under church lands as if they were tithes or other growing hereditaments to which the incumbents for the time being had the sole right; as, under this practice, a sum of probably not less than a million sterling has been appropriated by such incumbents to their own private use ; as the clergy are generally a body of learned men who do not usually act without due authority ; the laity might well be excised for adopting without inquiry the notion that, however morally reprehensible the practice, it was legally justifiable. Stimulated, however, by the defence set up by the local press of Durham, and by the inquiries of our ! own readers, we have looked into the law on the sub- ; ject ; and the result of our investigation has been to raise very grave doubts as to the legality of many of ; these appropriations of church property by the Dur ham clergy to their own use. On the subject of Isinerals under church lands we cannot discover any I legislation ; the law thereon must, therefore, be , I searched for in text books and in reported cases. In the former, little will be found bearing on the points under consideration, and in the reports we can only discover two decided cases. I I One of them, however, is of great value ; it is entitled " Knight v. Moseley," and will be tonnd in " Ambler,' p. 176. The facts reported are briefly ; these :—A bill was filed in the Court of Chancery . by a patron against a rector, to stay waste for digging stones, &c. on the glebe, other than was necessary for ' Vie repair of the nersonage and the church, and also for an account. To this bill the parson demurred as to the account, and by way of answer t o the merits I of the case against him alleged that the q uarries had I been opened before. After arg ument the LORD CH A NCELLOR gave the following judgment:—" The parson has a fee simple qualified and under restriction I . in right of the chinch, but he cannot do everything I. that a private owner of an inheritance can. He can. ; ' not commit waste, nor open mines, but may work (those already opened. Even a bishop can- ; not. TALBOT, Bishop if Durham, applied to parliament to ensile him to open motes, but ' rejected. Parsons may fell timber and dig stones to I repair; and they have been indulged in selling inch timber or stone when the money has been applied in repairs. Injunction has been granted even against , bishops to restrain them from selling la'ge quantities ; of timber, at the instance of the attorney-general on ' behalf of the crown, the patron of bishoprics. If the ; demurrer had only gone to the account it had been good, for the patron cannot have any profit from the I living ; but it is too general as to the stajing the digging of stones, &c. And though the answer set out that the quarry was open before, yet the demurrer cannot have aid from the answer. It is bad as to that part; and being so, it must be overruled as to the whole : for a demurrer cannot be good in part ae.d bad in part, as a plea may." The date of this decision is not given, but as it is placed between two cases decided in 1753, the natural inference is that it also was of that year; and the eeals were theu held by Lord Chancellor HARDWlCKE,rvspect ing the high authority of whose judgments it i s unneces- ; sary to add one word. Here then we have the law in I 1753 declaring that parsons cannot even open mines on church lands, much less opin and appropriate the proceeds to their own private use. And in the very ; case of the diocese of Durham, Bishop TALBOT was, it is stated, refused permission by parliament itself to ; open the episcopal mines, from which his less senipu- 4 lolls successors have derived such great fortunes. If, then, this decision be still good law (and we cannot find that it has been impeached by any subsequent case), every existing inciom- . bent in the diocese of Durham, who has opened, or permitted mines to be opened by his lessees, has thereby committed waste, and the leases he has granted of the minerals are of course invalid. This, we submit, is a most serious consideration. not only for the Durham clergy, but for their coal lessees. ' Whether waste has been committed when the minerals under the glebe have wit been reached by a shaft sunk on the church lands, but (as is frequently the case) have been obtained by out-strike from adjoining mine, we do not venture an opinion. But if " Koight r. Moseley" were rightly decided, no man need hesitate in coming to the conclusion that every incumbent who has opened a mine is liable to account to the church for every penny of its proceeds. And we shall be obliged to any of our local readers for the names and particulars of any Durham parson (be he bishop, dean, prebendary, archdeacon, rector, vicar, or curate) who has opened mines on hie glebe or other church lands, that the ecclesiastical commis sioners may have facts as well as law before them. The political economy involved in this restriction to open mines on church lands is, of course, indefen sible ; for the public have a deep interest lathe enlarge ment of the field whence they are supplied with fuel, and in the full development of church property. And on this ground alone the restriction ought to be re moved by legislation; bat removed on terms shriller FRANC r A clever dissenter will spend more . years of his time, and a large . gum of money, and h e to those on which, as we have shown, the incum:benta --- sent afterwards to another ut iversity which has had of glebe lands have, by the 56th Geo. 111., clasp. 52, PAPAS, Monay, 11 A.M. roduce for the permanent benefit of the ecurch. nothing .to do with him, to buy that recognition permission to cut timber, viz., on investment of the There is an absolute dearth of news this snoring LONDON, TUESDAY, AUG. of his talent, which his own university has refused to P 29. b es tow. Col. Taofersort might well doubt whether The foregoing remarks are perhaps the best reply ent re -a sort of collapse after the violent excitem P Amos° the few respectable ingredients which aumt the dissenters wouhi agree to such a compromise. Mr. we can make to the last article of tb.e organ of the morning. in the composition of the unsavoury financial hOte.h- GLAD s TONE thought that there was a real and formi- Durham clergy ! they will show him and his patrons L ou is Blanc, on Saturday morning, left by ; tl i l e i potch called the miscellaneous estimates, the grant for dable difficulty to the introduction of religious differ- that his and their petty, peddlireg propositions, by N ort hern R a ilway, taking the train, not at the w' t ducted by the debate of Friday night and Saturdsf education holds a prominent piths• The milAise— xy mess in the case of a university having a collegiate which it is 'noped to escape bran the dilemma in would appear to h av e i n t r odumd this and a fev e o th er s y s tem of domestic diacipline, and tie thought this diffi. which their moral, and as we hr.ve now proved, their St. Denis. It is said t'amt he was himself tne OEI, items, in order to redeem the whole mixture ( . 1 . 0 ., a an _ cl ay would be the greater because that system was legal, misappropriations have ►aced them, are alto • sire subject of converAtion among his fellow-travel° qualified ceMemnation—it is the reputable hal,t pean y b ec oming MOTO and more a living reality every year. ther inadmissible. We (radical and revolutionary lea, who, however, ' lid not know him• station in Paris, but at the fi rst station en route _ g. the M. e, worth of bread to the intolerable deal • o t di It may be necessary to eXplal.n to our readers that though we may be, as we ale accused of being) seek to We read in the. m egag ee :It is Said ''-' - - potable 'auk. After having voted conn.l ess thou - the mysterious words " livulre reality" mean nothing ie•Wver for the church th at property to which she is Montalivet is nr,w in Parts, and that he is chart bl sands for repairs of public buildings, r o y a l pa l aces , m ore than the retrogression to as many of the enter- morally and legally entitled; we wish to see it ex- the ex-King Louis P hil ippe with a mission ,ving temporary accommodation of parliaMentary effacers, lisle of the ancient monastic, discipline as in consistent 'winded in the promotion of religion, virtue; education, for its otier 4 t t o o btain from the government , ex* nary assistance. The E solved to grant to the i r evenues.- as- to eatable roomer, but not sufficie citing civil war. The Patric says it Damonlin, an old offic stating that it is the • n elected, to accept ds, that Louis Napole not to return to France The agitation at Li out any outbreak. Nu workmen were,howeve and uttered terrible tin overawed by the imps called out. Numerow di s tribution to the w by tho municipal count lotion of the ateliers z Friday, greatly contrih from committing any c It is understood that Count de Mzumora is t gommavernment, to allow : cond in chief of tl Known, ADO. 23.- 7 LrZe_ ass . 19 346 pawn HPinnies., 4 a r , ; Bank of St. Ferdinand, so Per cent. rsanlffn_ ......_ on Loa FRANKFORT. -1 ano t i ona l Assembly that centra l g overnment I amo unting in all t o ques tion put to him , I stated that the care o n 'Vicarthrae th of th tithe joists EmP the tin h a d been duly celet so me modifications in exce p tion, but there the expresion of ha was perfor s med only Becke, the contingent to but all the Prussian and the Prussian go , disposable troops al central power the • Prussia has in substi the decree of the dissatisfaction at thi ing hoinage ought to Al. Heckscher , the II ply to NI. Viesendon dited by the central bad received instru of the Germans a t part in the insurr Laving been clues' of tEe prohibition silent against the metals from its ,Austrian governs as being merely tei pular excitement ; ques tion had been w hich had recomtn th e prohibition. c entral power shot to adopt a separi which form an in that the assembly i of Germany to def assembly then pros on the paragraphs co n,titunon. Th e Cdevne Jut )l. Compes has del for the Central Po PRUSSIA.—TI and turbulent me( milted to the col request o s e w si e ste, n ereta e dha.iatyei appearance praised . t oroahhi: attacked ee. i p o vs boh e edy : n eo s i e t nb e be g ra p : lei throughout with with which, in assemblies, they the subject to generally grateft The prelimina outrages at Char culpated person tarily surrender( An aggregat Berlin was held 23rd. The sub suppression of ti o k en air. A praying for the AUSTRIA. — to the 23rd inst ing questions w In the Constit France interfer pt have those Milan? 3. power taken in do our own ar 'DENM. We ha August. 'tenor goN propoeed conclut Is to be Prince F V 111.; C gen ; C Trenseer expresee govern been be intsrini with biz GE