The Express. — London, England, 1852-02-20 00:00:00

— as etimitille set M it wadi Lod aesesdes'e s ki iir s. bright and mete mem. He rmobalsillhellooso oth , oat m embers of ti v e ag rellineat bsd ailneWloolllll tree h .oiage id an un poems esti their diet greet partia ;;ury effort of the semi= 111111 le try to get • majority is &To m via measure far PINI161411( tht smaiL gtr It Ile IAS Minded Lied lion, and try* to gelds P;; " :t io " eig " ht his lordship quits jollied law Cauar. %avant PALMERSTON asid—ilir. bevisig essies er moray Iran hal the advantage and thebeereur et Lead N. merelship, and belief boos tismA7 In= f w ' with 11101 by official r e lations. I camel I tr glee a silent nsionims to dm asailso et itt. o3 ! • 1„„i, , ti,ri.) I feel Wood, sir le bier i b i s wanir pp.oy to the pm ate worth, to tha amour, and to tt o • uinlia inane of Lord Clarendon as • ismonat of the 10 %prim. my deep regret that be &add ea :Z., 4 .a.i0n have bent selected as the ohject eg s peemsal shark The othle lord who nude this modes disidmed t y wade • at this of leg a persosal tiviestieu. Sir, If this he a peratnal itur.tion, I am utterly at a lose to oadlimMasid rray This is out as attack upon a smears e• ,reinmet --a 111,1•1111) of admisistration. Tho sable funny bin s , wider the decision of the bow, and pa upon the t o censure, a strictly perusal act of the Lord lariat. 640 of Ireland. Now, I take that to Ire a yomsnal o nail I think this is an unworthy meshed O , k ch,- c rs.) If any boa.. umber Shahs tt Is k ,, ,;ate na ace peru o nial ettaelt p =ablie man. he 1 ti.und or that the of kit mem& are J. den. and ,uh.tatitial. Now, sir, I appeal to those t ,b,, have heard what has passed this slosh% no coy wh.thir the noble l red haw succeeded In n. a n y tg ,,h toandatiau for the censure which he has peopsosil INA that a t bas never been my lot to hear se usmalt sll3tl4i a gromua laid down for S 3 serious as anmestiee. soast i• it a t m the noble lord Itas established sea bit sets 43)..1114. is the charge which he brings nolo* wy sable It t. M., that is a moment of rih be pert'. whet ding, m of the greatest oda %Mitts that part of the empire of which he is to rosposo N ble ginvnior, a new pap-. f editor COWS tObilik. and 441,410 ein tilt. V.o.liCy which roe are carrying on. / wish to *spotlit Of, of monarchy, the cause of loyalty sa d ▪ order, whuh you ere eltarged to maintain. I Mere • piper who. h has but a small circulation, sad If vow will a..i.t me in giving it a greater elves. isthia, I will endeavour to diffuse more eaten- steely those (minima which I conscientiously entertain. and *luck are tarouraltl. to the sjsbut of rearmost which you are &duel. to upbula." Why, sir, I say that, if my noble incad had cirunk front giving the editor his support. he would haw, been mare liable to bleats( doing so than he is toe barter afforded to that editor the MOWN of renilertng a pith:, (Cheep.) It stay be that that *adult wev is ...am rep ets unworthy of the onsfidesse whr.A my whit. in oil reposed in his. It is the aolbr tune of ti. sienna mauls frequently ta fiU into that error, MI to trot tic, implicitly to those who afterwards pawn unwoolty el confident... (Hear, hear.) But I mu l l e aoz that. toe my tart. I .heuld not think I was tieing r en aa or honour by taliug Wesel's' of information peen to me by a man who had proved hiremdf undeservies cif twilit w.. 1, it must be recollected this theme WWI sr drama to throw dirt upon others may sometime sail *air vas host'. ( ( been.) I confess that a pert et the pain with "lush tie debate of this evening has inspired ms is pen et weing a sable lord, for whom I entertain per m dly the gnastest merit, the instrument of anali an ▪ ((here) Sir, I shall say no more. low from the tan, mid tt caper of the house that this unjust and un wise att.topt to caws:. my noble friend will utterly fail. (theasl lam persuadid that the debate which as takm place, and the opinion which this house will pro misee upon the motion of the noble lord, will not permit my mble friend from continuing to stand in the high position which he has hitherto maintained as a distinguished &er rant of tlte public—a man who has rendered eminent scr um to. and cut:Jarred great benefits upon his country. (Chart+ ) lota NAAS replied. He said he felt bound to repel the siscrticu just mule, that this was a personal attack • and, he admitted, that if he had made a personal atta ck tw Lord Clarendon. he would are bean unworthy of a seat in that house. He justified the Mete be bad permed, however, an public grounds. It was not merely the conduct of the Lord Lieutenant of Inland that was impugned. The whole Irish executive pitheipated in the connexien with Mr. Birth, and be be lieved that tin- 'rabic lord who had just sat down wee cog mint ot it. tllear, hear.) He thought, therefore, that there was no justification whatever for amsorting that this notion had been brought forward solely as a personal at tack. (" Oh, uh," and " hear, bear.") If bo had been mulcrstuoil to give it that colour, he was heartily sorry for it. kilrar, hear.) It was never intended. The speech of the noble lord the first minister of the crown was a moat dexterous °se, but he appealed to the fairness of all hon. gentlemen present whether the noble lord tint as wit his ipasch—had touched upon a single one of Ow arra meets which he (Lord Naas) had brought forward is map Peet of his motion, and he would ask has. patinae& who were going to vote against it, whether they were not 'meg to vote merely in favour of the speech made by the woble lord. (Hear, hear, end ones of ' , look, divide.") The vote that was about to be come in was one that might hereafter be brought against them. They were going to establish as a precedent that the House of Commons approved of the abstraction of public mosey from the outilte puree fur the purpose of subsidising the prem. Ile could nut believe that the house would come to web a decision. Ike ham then divided: ibe ayt;;;;;a4 Nara 219-92 SEt TEAR EDUCATION Mr. M. GIBSON po,teand his motto& on this subject until Tuesday mat. The other ord. N 1.: the day were this disposed of, and the house adjourned at holf-peet tea. Zbe Court. The Queen and Prince Albert walked yesterday is the grounds of Buckingham Palace. Prince Albert rode out on horseback yesterday, attended he Lieut.-C*l,lnel the lion. A. Gordon. The roya/ family took their usual eleven* in **garden of Buckingham Bulger yesterday. The revel dinner party yesterday at Buckingham Palate imlueled . the Marquis of Breadalbane, Colonel dm Mon. C B sod Mrs. Phipps, and Major-Uancral Sir George Basks. A &natation', consisting of Lord Jocelyn, Mr. James CaoArid, Mr. Cnich,di r Forteacue, Mr. it M. Bellew, sad Mr. C. P. Leslie, had an interview with Sir George Gtey yesterday at the Home-ogles. General Bell had afro 110 interview with the right hon. baronet. lh were sent yesterday from the Colonial-see' lathe linvernens of Ilona Kona and Ceylon, and to the Lord Ilish Conwaiseroner of the lonian Despatches were received from the Lord High Car ■warmer of the lonian Islands yesterday at the Colasial otlice. EAST KENT ELECTION. CLOSE OP TIIE FIRST DAY'S POLL. Daum. BEMIS. Adlinni cleterbery • 426 Cellisebery TN Emmet, 324 liasigests MS ttunimm. 00ee 2611 = Nina 4411 174 VS liajoeity be MIL SOUTH EASTERN DP/IDMID. The directors of this company bon islemsbod to reneassend the preprietoes, at tin lobo hild on the eth of March seat, to dadiell II the lieltyrar esdaeir 31st balmy het. st the tale ll§ pm not per masa Rms. Coin me POStrtiotrat..—A brae ratio Ikertuti of the babsbitsuleut PlO=enth wee beU as We mete, rimiest. tbs stayer, Ifs Ilseemmth Path is the thus. * Wi est. pima= of s thlumisor ribs ess The fret wooletios. ssetles Oirlai le Übe pram et of ales,., emit the ealbsethis anvil lthms item tssredd othetry. et stn. ths Mei of mowinmsk toss by W. Gnat, I. P. ra b 7 .6 1 .1.1.1 Vs**, Isle of tbe I • oath,. sae Gam* emani moweiy. A lettaf from &is Orwriet Web statist( lb tworti• frorwee et teerntoieut is the thnethiss of the sup, Pro yithil it were stated *der timi mildew of the As 44 OHL 111... 64. was wed by fir. Yaw Osseset. w ho the 114•01k1 Si OW WOO CIO • Ids loops Porthessith be twthitt is isthyllsoei with ther ag yi; sites ot Ow above ase. whisk bibs solthilid by 31r. Lea, was centre ithombissill. A totter tios ma Sam mare. Tiplise mod Os. the etweresseet ses. *own for nee, metier thee they swill sake a AK with attars barrri, to take • see arms two tett six Nebo ei two fret el l eht inches leapt. with were dirk ea the es , me is weigh about lba. to f lbc—ea mei we, Neel. for rultioteer corpo—fee Sb., NOM owl OIL look- Tbi. ride would bays them eettre—is 7104 sr INS 7ordo, se the sale be meet ~ IONSIL MOM , Pell M es th ' lesegtheeell ere dor pothemesses. sem both bet the esseithoore isemessmilell dm slew. • Yt of wl.sihea we spew& se Os soothe, smill sheet uste were mien Is. A draw Wing espessmi by the varies eisimmilbst themlbion 'bid/ by tbs so* of tie miseltssoy sad Use the was be =m a Mee by bast; tbeee *vs Waal sok tbe meth= ef jW~ by met of the ~.weed. etwriamiTATlON of BA2N6thls.&—Te so = bee bon saesh recital dteritm the r i ll es sieveimeele. It k that Loyd Is sower bee t= seemidel old sethilmossy ; Robb kid le Ms yeelleessis y_obthoby ebb mkt sensesses of susess b .i isw W e isothresdisi ems slot to sommiesc• their taaves . 7h. OM essibises. A. fuessr, mode his dell ea Tensaw Ws*. et 11 eststb. said the shwas or • crowd, sal the sloths sf •lees of soods BNeddrw, which wee es Wsieselay series. Y felt of liberal temilierlis the =1", sew sorysike prshothes of the boa. 1110 *way the iirsididly to Isms of , Ist st molokt vow, " sti th• Tostebt swift to Ow trini ty"! interest." the erfreoo. TO CORILYIPONDiNTIL Peered IWO= et Tie Lam" soss sembies " Cissetle." pahtleisi every Theft sal ht tins kr post. tem tamosts hilsolset tat " The Itsproa" Limbs Essahht ppm, pa Met the Odida. 10. Beaverialardat, ), Tao e'sioall so the day at paldloaalaa. NIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. Taos Daellantlag. VI. No Twrearaw—manias. Sia.l7m. LONDON, FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 20. AT last, the Braintree church-rate cue has been argued at the bar of the House of Lords, a large thierigy of the common law judges, with the pon dorm* leagued Mr. MANNING, as " the taUEEN'd easiest= attending their lordships. And, oa the of the argument, the consulting he INTO wureeeted to answer the questions put thouse to them with all convenient expedi tion. We are, then, this session, it may be hoped, within sight of a final judgment on the important principle Involved in this ten years' 'eel contention. Let us, therefore, prepare ourselves in time for the wont, by accurately understanding tho facts of the case. We must, first of all, never lose sight of two facts : 1. That the legislature, by not acting on and carry ing out its own resolutions for the abolition of church rates, forced the parties into this litigation ; and 2. That having done so, three succeeding governments have availed themselves of the circumstances of the law being in dispute, to elude and escape trans set tlement of the question, to which parliament, or at least the House of Commons, was,we repeat, pledged. A very slight retrospect will prove this. In 1833, church rates were abolished in Ireland. Their repeal in England immediately became a par liamentary question. In 1834, Mr. Divcrr would have carried • motion for their abolition, without • substitute, had not Lord ALTHORP promised to sub mit a government measure to the house. So pressing, indeed, was the subject then deemed, that in leas than a month after having made this promise, Lord ALTHORP moved, in committee of the whole house, a resolution, „ that, after a time to be fixed, the pay meat ,f church rates in England and Wake shall cease and determine :" and this resolution be carried. Unfortunately, however, he proposed to contribute 230,0001. a year "out of the proceeds of the land tax" to the repair of the fabrics of the church; and so objectionable was his substitute deemed, that ministers had to abandon the bill founded on the resolution. has thus, it would is.., shimmed his dim At Inlti he let it be known dietitians was Is so reel Ight. The bill of Lied Jo= dewed es HO els the poses, and left so many laephelis lee the saamp u t= reformism es email a pin i sad WI OM z Nei the wings so line a a g:t. that the helm thought it boot to Ihs 4 , us =Lio Insealasent," het its Amid! extortion of a mare gumbo ineseere of esi zireem , talke. Lord al ia tit y i= :a l ta w la m bs§ Ille mealier foe Buthinghemairm have mshe up doir studs for a Ufa - They willje after all, &Wm a rums for this change el room, g refer to the Nowa dissentient which the blend pries and the lima Emblems( parliament have displayed torture 1 1 115Fitisa ef the Paths Motet s& This le —but wrong. When we are told that th e of the tories has determined upon eppesiag the new Reform Bill because the liberal pers object to the measure, it seems, l e a = a sight, as though our ancient enemy had felt **error of his ways, and was about to confess his ti i to declare his repentance ; and bind himself ad his followers henceforward to work u faithfully he our welfare as ho and they have heretofore 117 t for our subjugation. e almost see the 1 e W vourite of the House of Peers converted to Stith in political progress, and—leaving the high and gewgaw regions of hereditary legislation—behold him about to descend to everyday life, solely for the public good. Since the whigs are unable to please the peo .- ple, the tories will try their hand ; Lord JOHN is unsuccessful, and Mr. DISRAELI offers his ser vices. The radicals denounce the short-romings of the long-hoped-for bill, and squabble over its provisions—so m 7 Lord Dame proposes to come to the rescue - dec ision, doubtless, liastened b 7 the hope that Lord Patuensropt might not be unwilling to damage his into colleague s if a tempting oppor tunity should offer for so doing. Now, then, comes the question :—What are the liberals to do? is the leader of the protectionists right or wrong? Is be right in supposing that all the discussion which has arisen on the details of Lord JOHN RUSSELL's measure was such a sign of utter disgust with the new plan that the liberals will join any party who would help them to strangle it. Or would not Lord Deese have been more correct in his view if, seeing the thing in its proper light , he had felt that the objections, the critiques, the melding, the exceptions, the complaints, were the remit rather ef the short-comings of the bill than of disgust eddi the objects which the bill may emu tidy ailletteleft Lead DERBY professes to believe the lend my that hes arisen to be one of utter objets lien to the Weer plan for parliamentary re tation. He would surely have been wisor= understood the hubbub to indicate the first boisterous movement towards making that plan more complete —a hubbub to be succeeded by a vote for the second reading, and a steady fight in Committee for the Ballot, and other improvements in the measure. But Reformers must decide upon their lime et parlia. mentary operations at once. Will they let go the representative bird iu the hand for one that Mr. DISRAELI may promise them in the boil Either the whip plan i s a step in die proper dialed.° or it is not. Hit la not—if the Asilidell 4 ta. Zr y qua lification—the removal of the Jewish ty--the reduction of the franchise ipaillleaden is towns and counties, and the giving a Milk to el who contribute to the direct taxes—if thus are not considered to be concessions to pion demands and . popular requirements, the mum el the radicals is clear enough. By voting with Lard DIEM they may turn out the whip. The whip, swessway from the comforts of that place they lose se dearly and have enjoyed so long, may, in their Emperalson, juin in an opposition demand far lemaltald, er men sei verml suffrage; but, though Psalm may premise and conservatives cajole, coos put them Ingmar and the tories will concede nothing. Thek mess in all likelihood would be to allow the pope aid income tax to expire, and thus—having the way for a deficiency of income—they m am *air friends tells us, propose a fixed duty on all I= g ef cower, including . corn : thus, indirectly, a virtual " protection to agriculture." The flight which these who have rights to win from the tight grasp of adverse governments—that Woggle which the labouring many, in this and other esoteric, have had to wage with the poesessing and enjoying few, would have to begin afresh. Tun, we might have an interested phalanx of ex-plaoemen on our side; we might have the sweet voices of many now mute, to help us shout the chorus of popular shims. But this song must be raised from the rend we now occupy. The parliament, just wortgaold, would have advanocd us nothing ; rave been lost for progress. And such things considered, it remains for decision whether we should take—with correct ions—the proffered whig instalment of reform, or, by going against it, play into Lord DERBY'S bands, and upset the whig coach, I —casting to fortune to save our own limbs in the general crash that may ensue. The resolution itself, however, remained; and on it Sir ROBERT PEEL, in March, 1833, he being then in power, proposed to act ; but before he could do so, the whigs bail again come into office. The opposition to church rates increasing, Lord MELBOURNE'S go vernment again made an attempt to settle the ques tion; and this time in the right direction. In March, 1837, the then Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Sense RICE, moved, in committee, " That it is the opinion of this committee, that for the repair and maintenance of parochial churches and chapels in England and Wales, and the duo celebra tion of Divine units; therein, a permanent and adequate provision be made out of an increased value to church lands." The house, by a majority of 23, adopted this resolution; but, on Mr. A. JOHNSTONE 'subsequently moving, as an amend ment to its further consideration, that funds so derived should be applied to religious instruction, ministers had only a majority of 5; whereupon Lord lons RUSSELL declined to introduce a bill founded on the resolution he had carried, and cushioned the question by appointing a committee to inquire into the means of increasing the value of church lands. Meanwhile, Sir JonN CAMPBELL published his re markable pamphlet. maintaining, 1, that church rate was not an absolute charge on land, but merely a personal tax on parishioners, according to their means and ability ; and, 2, that the solo power of making a rate rested in an actual majority of parishioners in vestry assembled. The immediate consequence of Lord J. RusseLL's refusal to persevere in giving effect to the two reso lutions of the House of Commons (that of the 21st of April. 1833, and of the lath of March, 1837) was the first Braintree case; for our renders must not forget that there have been two. The vestry proceedings out of which it arose took place on the 2nd of June, 1837. A rate of 3e. in the pound was pro posed ; and on that motion an amendment, adjourning the consideration of the rate for twelve months was carried: Thereupon the pariah officers themselves, out of vestry, laid on a rate. This, however, was held by the Queen's Bench, and, on appeal, by the Exche quer Chamber also, to be invalid, for want of con sent of the parishioners in vestry. In giving the judgment of the appellate court a doubt was thrown by Chief-Justice TINDAL ea to whether, in case of a majority of the parishioners assembled in vestry re. fusing to vote a rate at all, the minority, remaining and continuing the same meeting, may not, comn dered as representing and acting for the majority, make the rate. This doubt, expressed in a cue of " Veley v. Burder " the first Braintree case, produced " Veley r. Go s ling ," the second Braintree ease; and it is still pending. In May, 1841, a vestry meeting to make a rate woe called, and a majority voted " that the rate proposed be not granted." A monition to make a rate was then issued from the Consistory Court of the Bishop of LONDON; and on the 15th July, 1841, another vestry was held. A rate of 2s. was proposed, but an amendment against the principle of all compulsory payments, and abso lutely refusing to make a rate, was carried. Where upon the churchwardens, and a minority present in vestry, made • rate. Proceedings to enforce it were taken in the Consistory Court against Mr. GOSLING; Dr. Lustrturrox there held the rate to be bed. On appeal to the Arches Court, Sir Huser.nr 'INNER FUSE overruled his j t, pmneemeed it to be good. On preh in the Queen's Bench, Lord DENNAN trappeeltd Dr. Lusitivoreefe view! in the Exche quer Chatter a majority se the jeeps agreed with Sir M. J. Far; and thew the nos was carried to the Hems ci Lore, whim it be' jest has 11 4. 11 r. BAIIIVIL 0001111AULD, the Iseder a Ttt; opposition. MU the ammlttes of kit amoise—if the Lords support rate, their denim will not ibe ot the power of a taborky is wag to a tele—indeoly that a minerity mast motets give dronmatoneen 'night do le. 7isemb of expellent" of dolleMhte • Amok sale woutM Sill remain, Mk IN effle a t i t aheraintartime adman to TVs, =1:1 imiler modiste AnT i S h at the oase. before the Quese's there on a dlibrent set d sboomosooo bedew the 'me to give it farther eampatint as to the premier powers elminoritiee in vatedim. 8o that very little will be imbed sea by the Reese of Lords ei l = Xleplest the Braintme remernte. P tannins will o* smoke the now shim mies into a blosiegfiss. Dean all this time the cow _thentssies has =raw more and more ma atimed em 11e4age as 1841 Dr. Moo= be wadi hes to do with them at 144111 wad aim then 100, . have bees in chersh ma sine there. In the other towns at the We* INlistotoreh rata hes base amassed : neither he Psolind nor Maas Hodimelsid oar Ilholield. Weida sot &soft it Sere new any omit tax SSA Las Ise is t a =st=lly at lataaPtak wiltb at and etboreat tams &mak rates ere sew 'new of ; yet ever sines their ;Ms passes the paws et dr chtrto . inoranoad ; more mosey ham born raised; Imo alterehee have been built; and mere data OF gZeol gr et ed rhse sand church-rate equei . seed the monks 'Ai general &peals ca the part of eherclumn to speed their own plane of warship wild to go far to settle the Susie.; for it remittontlM greatest =Z aostributing ant of the gesmil 6- tee tpo et ssatry to the repair shembse, and, .coati,and. applying aura proprl et y to °tin' Shia spirited peoperes; and. them removed, the other °heti to a plan he the soin raid of dintentere see se taw the mak lir. Quasi-steed Mr. Bazorr meld body Mir ism amiable sow feronce over this. FRANCE. (11T ILIOTRIC TILEGRAPIL) PARIS, THORRDAT MORNING. The government engage to guarantee the opera tions of the Railway Share Bank to the extent of a million of francs. An active division of infantry is to be formed at Lyons under General Castellane, and commanded by General Herbillon, who is replaced at Boum by General de Mortemart The Customs duties for January, 1832, amount to 10,287,349 francs—an increase of two millions com pared with 1851, and of one million compared with 1850. Moatalembert was presented yesterday to the President, by Onizot, as Academician. PA/LIN FEB. 19.—Five per Cents., 103 f. 80c. ; Three per Cents, 6.1 f. 80c. Beak Shares, 2,887 f. 60c. At the time of On to press our Paris parcel of lest evening's date, dee this morning, had not arrived The following, Ave a morning paper, gives the mahatma of the Mimed articles of the Pans papers cat the sow " Press law: " The basis, la its 11•111■Meille el the ream dietie gobbles between ouch as base bees berremel hme pram laws needle Is bad time. sad amoldes af which the thief if the its may dam the livesse et exclusive Juven iles. " We "MUM 69 observe her the Damp) that the essos et Mb Grads are far troeV , sew end meat. Ina is a lime a GM sews ? A mew a drat. seek ea might led its way We say Jo* dem that emisteme dim ams / It meld be dedealie yet the gems a Oh aide Meld be sapling as eadmetly." The aba tis. of tba and the wheembox as. Tempt the emel- Didairi kt lee paors, ' et all the Mee meow Mere, the sea ./rave le that wade amen. - 6e of essipae* gat .rerros. sies''—ea Om it leave Me mildea. TM Issostilit Nattsiesi essmassme by bleeds( lbe eionsgeles et the pease is bosom a Mat power ht the 'mate. Its peeper pea le that a eimple seatrel enrolled the wade dee ham The loom bee Meg: mane, ere meem ea mest dr listuadeelahle see this eight be set shwa. Prosaing le the Mae se' tile lemma, Oho /nosh"- Mm all West le the mem mew Wee o ri l e ma d the amp esto se the der Me st paw sepia al Meg Se Tam aim. The a de 'July dew set, the males a the aim mimes the Mariana st die park br jades expos IM palm add miaow of die stemat At see time Miff mph teed at maw 4111114111•1 helloed unihatair Mete aresvtils*assie impartiality to 1 at dm beads of se isisemims Immovable The weigh mt. may the immedisie aerie, bes — Wire Ms emmal Ammar ea teedemise a she as amedjitima ea Mike amendeety. ate, looks 1 la We asgssiss sod suppression elmsr et the theme as isinlly Isg, bang mask wane thes Ys ssasorship, as of smog they me. hied, aroma wad be wasted 116 oast. te TIM male easarise as Ihilmn We bsee iielbeiNnied Os reesisiss the ahem a the liberty I alhip a aad we have mowed of the areas whine Ed . the mercies of that liberty. Oa the ether ole net set to be Magma that the May of m May Me Ger maw and "rims rbersesisaildi amey ram metea to tame It If 111. " Tat aelehleid papers maws make teg ibe dime et beigeedeed gems. The levet Mena mows elk se weak( and bee m ad. al"" el the maidleame a the ~stir, and teem mem nt same d eal by maw a emadmat Mil* le power a theamed times mon demonme Ma wield be the enovs, the edelehm or the Waist of the mem." The Conga - Mosenalra that the pram can lise .5. the Prime Mine, ead te live Se oe mmek peabobly. ea its Meer mite. The Per, the sibs gweessissat MINOR ohm equal adieholes with the ?reddest et Ms ItepilitiVe obese. Ths aka h Cast. Wm maid ether pram what lave Ile Mr of informero, polke sage- LORD DERBY has ateingsasil tinesagh his news• paper friends that ha kends Is appose the aseand reading of the Ps.rliamatsay lapswM el — Bid. H. THE EXPRESS!' 416 W 'P*BitlLtitY Wag NA Owl eat entaelitta lase lbel ar eie m " Prow pap 116a.povenuessi Ile We see N. ingt the easeimser2 Meat mate-deedg Wer eesseitee say the dr km aet aiseded seps- TM and direaspeent basest a.. get Willa be show that it esse the we. se leglimmet stamen , gad awaits. kale Iwo tha vs pay as gempeehie esealosat ru es =aleed that Nem his say Wiwi egmed itself whist this lavessese meaty with sash mreseses sad redoubtable prematisas." The Comeibrahmart gentatos a Wart& contra" dialing the easesemat at the Prom and Seek that M. Gam Weeds suMag formai as s date tbe sevandimennat at ficeanx, to oppesidea to M. Verve. M. de Sivry, Probed of the Meurthe, las addreseed a proclamation to the labaMtanta of that teratelseltt, informing them that the allaillate. f o r its three district, an aspbew at the ge neral of that name, M. Baguet, incaerly mayor of Houdemont, and M. Viard, member of the last As sembly and of the consultative commission. Thu Cunditutionnel says : It is announced that a decree relative to the creation of institutions of malt homier is shortly to appear. The Prim* President, desirous of affording aid to agriculture, bad a few days after the 2nd of Dseember named a coin- SliftiOn to inquire into the subject, and to propose a poe tical solution. That commission was composed of met known for their capity, vie., M. Leplegue B a rra, Pistols dent of the Conn of Caseation; M. Lebsuf, Signet of the Bank of France; M. Ernest Andre, IL de Veritry, es- Sub-Secretary of State at the Ministerial Department of Finance; M. Meaner do Morney, and M. lowan. This commission, after having held long conferences, with M. Lerchre-DurutiO la the chair, has drawn up a bill which has been approved of by the government. It is impassible that a law prepared by men so competent and so enlight ened, should sot be in conformity wita true principle, of Ramada economy. DENMARK. In the sitting of the Volkathing at Copenhagen on the 13th, M. Moored put his questions to the minister relating to a passage in the late decree on the fun damental law. Tho finance minister, in the absence of the president of the council front indisposition stated the opinion of the Council of State on the matter, as follows : The council are of opinion that the reserve made in the fundamental law does not confer on the King the right of making changes in that law in any other manner than in coaforraity with the 106th section, and the sainewith re &poet to change, to be effected in consequence of the royal manifesto of Jan. 28, 1862." With this reply M. Monad expressed himself per fectly satisfied. ALLEGED ESCAPE FROM THE AMAZON. The Daily News (and other papers) of this morn ing publishes the following intelligence, received by electric telegraph from its Southampton correspon dent, and of which no further particulars or con firmation have been received up to tho hour of going to press: Intelligence bee been received hero from i? or . cheater, that two men, named Thomas Sergeant and Allen, l g to the Amazon, landed yesterday, Wednesday, at kN O4 assert usouth. They that they were picked aby a Thresh vessel after floating about, with two others (who perished from cold), for two days upon a life-buoy. Ser geant states they were not far from the Amason when she blew up, and that a piece of the wreck struck Allen on the shoulder, and that be thought be was killed. Allen is said to have the mark apes his shoulder now. The above is the substance of the details which have just been telegraphed from Dorchester to this piece. The statements have been made in the pre sence el highly respectable persons in Weymouth and Dor chester, who are strongly impressed with its truth. The list of names of t hose missing by the Amazon has been carefull y . looked over , but neither Sergeant nor Allen is found therm. It is not improbable, however, that the men have shipped under assumed names. The news is scarcely credited in Southampton, and will require further investigation to establish its authenticity. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Last evening, a public meeting of the Anti-State Church Association, and others interested in the movement for a separation or the church from the state, was held in the hall of the City of London Institution, Aldenejate- Street. HENRY CHILD, Eq., took the choir, and entered Into • detail of the objects of the association generally, and urged that the present time demanded renewed exertion, a time when there was an evident inclination to vote away the public mosery in support of all sorts of religious establish ment;, which he maintained was detrimen•al to the ad vancement of true Christianity. Rev. W. FORSTER addressed the meeting on the ori gin of state churches, from which he argued that the state church principle had never tended to the advancement of the Christian religion. Constantine's that act when he got power was to bribe the bishops, in order to enlist them in his (scour, for the purpose of carrying out his parti cular views. The emperor took upon himself to settle doc trinal disputes, calling a council, which met at Nice under his control, where tho weaker party were crushed by the stronger power ; but in a short period the semi- Christian, semi-heathen emperor found it necessary, for his own ends, again to reinstate this weaker power. Thus was shown the absurdity of human powers attempt. ing to control men's minds • ho never had and never could tolerate such unjust interference with men's consciences. The result of such attempts war an entire want of confi dence in the church, which until the interference of Con stantine had acted with entire freedom of action, building her own churches, supporting her own poor, and educating all her children, while since that period she lost the power of imparting the idea that she was of divine origin, because she was shackled by human power and deprived of that freedom of action which alone could ensure her progressing in the advancement of true Christianity. Tho Rev. J. CORDON, of Coventry, dwelt upon the contradictions involved in the state connexion with the church of England. Religion must emanate from the free will. A state religion war founded upon an opposite prin ciple. Under the present system a baptist, or any other dissenter, was called upon to support a dumb which he conscientioualy objects to paying, as much as he would to becoming security for the salary of the Roman Ca- Akesia, the church. of England boosted of tudy, bat that was only to be found a their lamhs. Par there were three acknowledged parties in the *mei. the e Tailgated, the orthodox, and the high tante& wag ; all this &vanity of *Mon, s adl even of doo ming. weld alt east is the church at Ragland say more Hen It lees elsewhere ; it that church was not bound up wigh the Meth (Rea bre.) no anethed issalemaa salmi al ethearthis heath kale et the peasthes oldie dame parting laths etheth at esetsed leg that the like esateedistins sad not said in say ether iliese theeisa. nab bed been amid of late by this tray pesesseat shank la re ediadas dr esereateey e h t i tr a rcz ema lthe the Queen tees Mid up as the swami stes•ch; this thaselthpudisest seater the, midis K eseelatesily presses& thesithiss ; be &Wad thartheatift et this share, the peestice ef which wash et .. Mr. EDWAS 4 I . ) Talln.P . Plquaat=2 the cla the &Ogee etenifveresassat ia the shush st Tim OLIN OF 1301.D.—1t is stated on verg good sathoiNT, due is seder le selmalete the eirentatics ofpld Is this es 7. Mis boloodod a liatit—lf not ottogottota mor—die heemeimes et IL seas teem die Beak et 12e0mrl. lambi IMP elms be eareloa eat, Ili ttwe e st mtlis ea bare to use same belles is no ill mew Ulm Is at smemiery. twits of other deonolootioas urrn noise, sloe be more Waited in number thins REDO= DUTY ON FIUENCIE BOOMS AND DRAW :Nos.—By seise I. cosh it is Crested that in lin of the dohs ef miss payable :c a relha i nd drawings. pribbot at esq pine the et M were' tees late the tinits4 *X= M o che the Miming Ratios °Opole. beaks, Os. peeiesmi in the Raised • Riegiena, and r e ra d Rai li t Ir eep p i t:rt. the itemaisiene ed s a.... lPremea I 11. les. se oohs egrW ea works geblitherel ib ereielda — sk erg Nee wields the dominions of Yeasts ad everted those bre dr Whit sat teen berg works originally seined la the limited • hey 15s. per coot. OA priors or drawlass, so. oiloorod, pub lishedported at say pros within tho ilesSises of Pkeorm, and im eera thews hie he United Kiegiss. sing sea ee sawed. he Mesas 111. * , MEW Phinithmu. Cams IlAssia—Ths great MVAMMO market was opsood yoslooday fur the OIS new and sprier essier erected alas te_. .111dispetake series em hates Weise Rail way. amemspoise being a sothel Shish helm Seth ra diate the Shies le Perseasesk, Retehembh Leslaa, it was reolved, some t emi t l ernes, to MANE a peel dries market then so as to awned, the peeesstdros embalm he the meighleseeleg onatias et Hors Suss& oh With big et are piss as Wig". Idarddh Illsberee. delletisey, sir die of sots = ennemosta 11 21 the , frees the tows when asses oohs Ise ken from dr whitish began. The appoidem of the LNe sae be. IS risk le prose the mall belies Ms= to the .rhea tbserthem The market Mess h se dos to the railway that the obese es be seemed to sad hem tie sear hoes ash the sailor Rhea VA lees ef dome see prima yealsolay and a hesogne dieset, adages apseing et th; reekst, vs glom to all poems who ereemleil it. AR the shseetedless in Rolls oh he sightseeing tmi l i : Bi biz i o gi = to push asses at me elher ise ntarketa it a market he the ;ale aloe of hops. THE HOLICFIRTH INUNDATION. THE INQUEST. The adjthillid inquest on the 74 bans of the fees by the hie spealflag calamity at Helen, whisk bath Towe-balL been Andy ineneed, was held se Wednesday it the The Censer said, is pthh Jamey.) es es to the cause oldie death or lila Menem aad en the other saill rees = a l the busting tithe Mary .seer air, he should the lazy be evade the tweelity into two puts. The int wenn be es Is the era" of the giving way of the inabenlumeet. end. 'monied' as there were many ressethise ie die edgithesebsed which were probably sear the same seemagemoth a the one which W bunk ewe* this misheinek M wee the most ism whisk ey d the mem merimag peel ef the inquiry, as of the essidemt the upon the sertainty safety with th thir of th e inholdiann of Heintheth would probably &pond. The seemed pert wth whisebee the accident was the OM. seqemes of culpable illetigenee tet the part of any party emponsibie ' • if so, it annealed to the crime of man. slaughter.. To cosseting the Grime el ..slaughter the Jury mast clearly widely themselves that the meson whom they individually eimerged wee lid& by law to hashers.: there datissod the wham of which they essaphissed. This was so neesemay to establish the crime of man slaughter, as was the negligees, itself. He would emu nines the inquiry from the period when the act of parliament foe the eseetraction of the reser voir was obtained; then they could come to the appairemeat of commissiesen. and their proceedings as far as they could ascertain them up to the day of the accident ; width= the mate oldie lerarveir previous to and on the 4th February last; ssethaling the evidence with the report of the ememisaioaer mint down by government to investi gate the muses of this misfortune. As he undentood from that geatheme" he meld not ho able to make that report b.da. neat; end as ho did not think the inquiry could he or the results arrived at calculated to amen pubes safety, , without hearing that evidence, he must gen span them to adjourn till Muuday, after the other evidence bad been gone through. Thomas Haigh, of Upper B rid ge, llolmfirth, was the first witness examined. The deceased, Eliza Marsden, waa re lated to him, and lived with her sister and her children in Water-street, Ilinclicliffe Mills. She was lust in the flood, which swept away her house. He saw her body found at 4 o'clock on the afternoon of the 6th February, near the Higgin-bridge. The body was taken to the Rose and Crown inn. Frederick Marsden, of Hahne, said he he knew Eliza Marsden, and recognised her body at the Hose and Crown inn. Mr. &comb, law clerk to the commissioners of the Holm. Reservoirs, was then sworn and examined as to the constitution and acts of the commissioners. He said—l was appointed clerk to thu commissioners of the Holme lle. terrain on the 3rd March, 1816. The original clerks were Messrs Stephenson. ; afterwards Mean. Floyd and Booth ; after them Mr. Mania Kidd, and then myself. Mr. Wm. Stephenson, it would appear by the minutes, was appointed on the 3rd July, 1837, Just after the paining of the act. Messrs. Floyd and Booth succeeded (on the death of Mr. Stephenson), 30th Dec., 1841 ; and Mr. Floyd, ou the 10th Dec., 1846, tendered his resignation; on the 10th January, 1846, Mr. Martin Kidd was appointed ; and my appoint ment was on the 3rd March, 1846. [Mr. Jacomb detailed the circumstances under which he was appointed, on the invitation ut Mr. John Brooke, of Armitage-bridge, and- Mr. Joseph Brook, of Huddersfield, who stated that the cow misnomers were in great difficulties, and required his profess 'kraal services.] 1 went to Mr. Floyd before his resignatime , to ascertain of him the circumstances which induced hha to give up the clerkship, telling him I would not take the appointment unless with his approbation. lie stated, in reply, the commissioners were involved in much litigation and other &Acuities, causing great difference of opinion between them, and that as several of them were clients of his, he found it difficult to act with pleasure to himself, and he had therefore determined to resign ; that if I an• cepted the appointment under these circumstances, it would be with his full approbation; and ho hoped 1 would do so. In consequence of this conversation, I afterwards told Mr. John and Mr. Joseph Brook that I would accept the appointment. For several weeks after this, I heard nothing more upon the subject until I received a letter from Mr. Kidd, stating that the appointment had been given to me. That was in • letter dated on or about 3rd March, 1846. Isubsequently obtained from Mr. Kidd and Mr. Floyd the minutes of proceedings and all the papers connected with thetrommissioaers from therommencement. By thou minutes, it appeared the first meeting . was on the 3rd July, 1837, for the qualification of commissioners and appointment of Akers. Those who qualified were John Brooke, Armitage- Bridge; John Bombe since deceased; Edwin Butter. worth . ; John Ilinchliffe, of Horsefield.house ; Thos. Wrigley, Joshua Morehouse; John Hiochliffe, of Seholost Jes. Horneastle, Josh. Littlewood, Wm. Bettye, Gee. Batty., Geo. Tinker, Ben. Butterworth, Ben. Beardselli I Jos. hordeell, ' Wm. Lockwood, Thomas Morehouse, and Jobe ilthobliffs of Upperhouse. Those were the appoint ments thee day. Mr. Hugh Water was made treasurer ; Mr. Wereespiesseen.alerk. There was an order that the Bil resereeir be pretended with at that meeting. At a tithe setheiseisens on the 2nd Aug., 1847, 1 find theveing essamimileers were appointed to treat with the ascend owners of lands necessary for the making of the reservoir: Jibe Ilarpio, Edward Butterworth, Joshua Littlewood, and John Maculae of &helms. At the meeting Oct. 20, Mr. Joe. Brook, of iludderdield, was added, On the 6th of April, 11448, it was ordered that Mr. Jobe Brook, Mr. Hiuyin, and Mr. Litnewood be a committee le engage a competent eagineer on such terms as might be desirable. At • meeting on the 26th of October, 1848, it was ordered that the making of the Bilberry reservoir be left to Messrs. Sharpe, of Dewsbury, for the sum of 9,3241. I am in possession of the original contract with Messrs. Sharpe, which I now produce. Captain Moody said he should like to have a copy of this contract and specification. • The witness said • copy should be supplied. He did not find • minute of any appointment of on engineer, but Mr. Leather was the gentleman appointed to that office there was no doubt. Mr. John Tait, 1 believe, was appointed overloukor of the works, at 21. per week, by the commis sioners, and not by the engineer. To 26th of March, 1840, I find no entries relative to the Bilberry reservoir, except those stated, and some respecting certain orders for the payment of moucy to Mean. Sharpe on account. On the some day the committee ordered a letter to be written to Mr. Leather to send a person to measure and examine the works done at the Bilberry reservoir, and report the state of the works there with as little delay as pi:sable. At a meeting of the committee on the Bth Jan., 1813, I Gad an order, that, "whereas Moors. Sharpe and Suns, contractors for the Bilberry reservoir, having per formed part of their work at the valve pit in an improper and unsatbifactory manner, it is hereby ordered that the clerks do write to inform tbem that oaks' they immediately alter the said work and agree to complete the same to the satisfaction of Mr. Tait, superintendent of the works, they shall cease to proceed therewith, and other workmen will be employed to complete the same at their expense." At a meeting of the commissions us on the 12th May, 1843, it was ordered that the general committee be empowered to take such steps and eater into each contracts a may be neceesary to repair the breach in the embankment of the Bilberry Mill resorvoir, and making the same secure ; ordered at the same meeting that Mr. Horde and Mr. John Brooke be a committee to wait upon Mr. Leather to seethe with him as to the wet effectual mode of repairing the breach in the embankment in the Bilberry reservoir. On the 30th August, 1843, a committee was agNistai & consider the tenders, and let the works to pucks se they might think desirable he repairing the nand and taking out part of the enalmeknsth e .m 1 mining the same. There is a meeting ea the Sib hetheedier, 1843, A which it is ordered that the repehhe of the embankment if the Silber, reservoir, as ad to be Ise ma the 306 sit., be let es Messrs. Dodd ad George Pewter at the prises specified is their tender. Thum is a meeting of the eemmissiossee ea tho nes lise, 1843, at which if s - ordered that Mr hairs 1.1 , he oetherieed to sees week esetessid thin thee by/Swine Perks, and that begins seek seders negesdeg tie same es he may them cOn 30th Desember, 1843, Jonathan Thorpe, of mirth, mien, wet inspector or ovsrlooker of the week at Bilberry Milineerroir, at 6.. per day. Oa the 24th Weber, 1846, a thendlise was appoiated. sessisting 1 of Mesas. John and Joe. Ikea, Mr. Her, Mr. Mr. Littlewood, Mr. J. P. Crosland, Mr. Chides 114r s 'ell, Mr. GM. Hirst, Mesas. Christian and Joshua Morehouse, Mr. J. H. Farrar,nd Mr. John Hinehli ff e, to inquire Into the whole eleinumetenses rebates to the reservoir., and that they report at nest meeting with farther powers are alreeleary. ad Me sleek slaps thesis as they_ shall think peoper apt e e zil dea thst the est meseing shed& sonsider whether es should bee made to parliament to amend mad shot peened set. On the Ith Ifovembee, 1843, applica tion woe ordered by the comics, to Mr. Leather for • =Feed estimate of the of repairing the 88. reserrek. On Ms nth Mmether, IW, the esenah dna= enlioroi &rethinks to be made to parliament ea eased the ppeemoaanest act. There were twenty-eight votea he eat, and seventeen against the motion. On Jitsury, 1846,11 was ordered that Mr. Leather est basing famished an estimate for the purpose of going to theihmest, Mr. Joseph Hall be requested to make it. It was she ordered by the committee that estimates should be made is eon lets the Bilberry reservoir. On the 10th Sep tember. 1840, I gad the ant appointment of a committee under the Nth mode& of the ere to manage and rev= the sledges fee the low of water from the reservoir. that time up to the preset I hod al-o, from the minute. book, that such committee-at-management was annually appointed to the year ptheediag 1861—the last appointment being 9th July, 1860. The lesteonaisted of J. Roebuck, Jas. Robinson, John Haigh, George Hint, Ed ward Butterworth, Jaime Kerehothe, John Hinchliffe, of &holes, David .14efehhe, Sydney Morehouse, Abraham Cuttle, Jobe of Tenterhill, and Joseph Broadbent. These e5 . 21 . 2 i6. 1111thr duties assigned to this committee except the :of the sluices and the supply of water mentioned is whom of the set. I understand, however, there he b een r a regulation In the committee that three et ask , or some number of them reading the nearest to the should perform the duties. There fa an ep of!drawer who, I understand, err to E sti of the wa t er, undue the 8114 session, 'e rr se ye, at • salary of w pm came.. I found, soggy =11::t in Mallell, 1844 somminionees, as eelallie re in a elate of issohesey, sad they bane re mised so ever shim. . By the nth they were eimpewered to Min bat pair, relght reasreebn mat to borrow 40,0001. for We I heed the whole ewe bad been borrowed and id they had est sly empended that sum, but had deleli spire them M the • resent of several thousand plfsedik_ , ficasesp4 ether &ebb they were indebted 2,0001. le the thelidevendel Baskin Othapany, which I understood tyratil impended in their repairs of the Bilberry reservoir. that debt they were owing money to their late elm. Mama no ad But\ ; esdit a lgaty were &Med by X. Shupe awl the costrastore. T ar slabs if Shame of 3,0001., bat by their egegeßeg.ght. not it till Mr. lwett a ttikilttlidetbert, ich he refused to do; lead they W selles, and a waiter Obassery was paaidaweleal with ry wire I was a lffi liathe ted. The asiamissisasn were she is masa a ratepayers, tele bed refused • to pay tbsie rates. The iimaisisaass bed levied disieesses ' ups* *eat for the rates, awl they bad Dna& aidass of replevin, whisk bad boa seat isms to 'York tre Mal, and en order el name. W hasa made to the late Joseph ' ltobiness. lag., of ituddenllsid, which referees, wee • pending when I beame their clerk in 1846. A. bill had been proposed end deposited in parliament, pre vious to fay t, to repeal the existing set, to alter the modest , sad to authorise the borrowing of further sum of messy to repair and make perfect the exist nog reservoirs, and to pay off the floating debts of the commissioners, over and above the 411,01101. authorised to be borrowed by the existing act. I took up the bill uit was going before the Standing Orders Committee, and it passed the standing orders. That was in the great railway seseioa of 1840. Atter the standing orders were passed, an attempt wee made to do away with the opposition by an amicable arrangement. The mode of apportioning the rate was this: By the existing act it was directs d that the rate should be by the feet of water fall to each person, but other clau,es over-riding that, to the effect that the payment should be according to the benefit derived by each. A dispute had arisen, and the question was to be left to three scientilio men, to lay down a scheme for the new bill, by which jus tice should be done to all parties. The opponeuts appointed Mr. George Crowther as their referee, and we ware to ap point another, the two to name a third. Owing to the rail way pressure of that time, however,we could not get a coulee. tent engineer, and went to parliament without the reference. An objection was made to the bill in the committee, that it was a bill not to amend a hill, but to repeal an existing act, and the committee held the objection to be valid, in somuch, by repealing an existing act they might be inter fering with vested rights, but they stated they were willing to grant a bill to raise a further cum of money for the re pair and completion of the reservoirs and other purpoeter contemplated in the present measure; mud they gave us time fur the purpose. The promoters and myself commu nicated with the opponents, but we found on inquiry it wee impossible to pass such u bill that session. We then renewed negotiations with our opponents, and an arrange ment was come to, as stated in two letters, 29th June, 1846, which passed between myself and their solicitor, to abandon the bill, they agreeing to unite with my clients next smarm for a new bill. Next session (1847), I gave no tice of ad for depositing a bill to raise mone for the same purpose. It was a similar form of bil l. After such notice was given a meeting of commirnioners was held, however, at which it was agreed that it was in expedient to proceed with such bill, and I did not proceed. Between the two applications—that is, on the 26th beet., 1846—Mr. Fred. Robinson made his award, and decided that the mode of making or assessing rates hitherto gone upon was wrong ; that, according to the act, it ought to have been by the horse power, and not the feet of water fall. Subeequent to such award of Mr. Fred. Robinson, some of the ratepayers claimed a reference under the 71st section of the act ; and, in pursuance of that, Mr. Fred. Rubinson made another award, setting out the amount of rates payable according to the principle of taking the horse power, and according to which the sum of 7001. or 800/. only could lie raised , instead of prodncing upwards of 1,8001., which the commissioners had previously done, and which was insufficient even to pay the interest of - mortgages. Previous to the session of 1850, the mortgage,. gave notice of an application to parliament for a bill. Previously to that application a meeting of com missioners was held on the 9th of February,lB49, audit was ordered that a petition be lodged against the bill, "is order that they might be in a position to protect their inte rests before parliament," and it was ordered that a commit tee then appointed should confer with the mortgagees ter the purpose of an arrangement. The bill of the mortgagee, was supported by a part of the eommissionen and opposed by others, on account of the increased burden of the rates proposed. The bill passed through the House of Commons, but was thrown out in the Lords. In the committee of the House of Commons clauses were inserted for the repair and completion of the Bilberry Reservoir. Boring the time I was clerk it was stated at many of the meetings that the • Bilberry Reservoir was safe to a certain height of water. At a meeting in 1846 the following order was made, " That an opening be made in the waste pit of the Bilberry Reser voir at the height of eighteen feet above the dough or shut tle, and that Mr. Littleirood be requested to ace that tho ' same be forthwith carried into effect." Until this present I accident I never knew that this opening had not been made. That order was not made, that I know, through the subsid ing of the embankment, nor was I aware that the top of the waste-pit was above the level of the embankment. Mr. George Leather, C.E., said—f bad no connexion with tine company in the application for the act of 1837. On the 18th June, 1838, I received a letter from Messrs. Stephenson. inquiring if I would undertake the manage ment of making the Moline Reservoirs. The letter stated that the committee would employ a person to superintend the work., so that I should only have to come over front Leeds occasionally. I accepted their terms on the 23rd June, specifying my terms, and recommending the commis sioners to have specifications and plans ready laid out, and ' then to employ only practical men, to be constantly on the spot. On the 3rd October, 1838, I forwaraed plans and specifications of the Bilberry reservoirs, of which the copies are produced, and attached to it are the proposals of Messrs. Sharpe and Sane. Captain Moody (to Mr. Leather)—What was your CAM.. tation of the area of drainage ? Mr. Leather-1,400 acres was the calculated area of :rainage supplied to me in a letter from Mr. Crowther. Captain Moody—What are your data as to the fall of rain on the said area? Mr. Leather—l have no data of that, but in 'making my provision for a came of this sort, I generally take it sup;os- • ing that two inches vertical of rain shall fall and have to pans off in 24 boors, which is of very rare occurrence. That is an order to provide for the overflow. These two inches of rain on 1,400 acres would produce 10,161,000 cubic feet. This would pass off over a waste wear of 36 feet at a depth of 161 inches, the area of the culvert at the bottom of the waste pit in the Bilberry Reservoir, which would have to take it away and that would require a velocity of very little more than 3 , feet per second to pass off the same quantity in 24 hours, being little more than two miles per hour. Capt. Moody—Will you be kind enough to captain the nature of the strata of the rocks at the bottom and sides of the ravine in which the reservoir was constructed? Witness—They were composed of millstone, grit, and shale alternately, the dip being at an angle, but not very great. Capt. Mood,y—Did you consider yourself the engineer to the reservoir from the commencement to its completion ? Witness—Not to its completion ; for it never was com pleted. (A laugh.) The last time I inspected tbo works was in September, 1844. In July of that year I was per fectly satisfied that the reservoir could not he put inn state to hold water without a puddle lining. I tot.' the commis sioners that this ought to be done, and they seemed to acquiesce. I accordingly instructed the overlooker to have the water got out of the bottom for the purpose. When I went again in September, I found that nothing had been dose, and the overlooker, Jonathan Thorpe, told me fiat nay orders had been countermanded. I did not go spin, colaaidering that I heel nothing further to do with the works, which appeared to be in other bends. In 1843 there was no doubt of there being a run through the puddle, and in August of that year I wrote a specification for a portion 'of the embankment to be taken out and replaced, out: the advert to be rebuilt. Thu Coroner—There were two failures, it appears ; can Tea tell what the failure was you went over about iu July, 114.1? Mr. Leather—ln July, 1843, they were progressing, teat I was sure from the muddy water which aged out then was a run through, and that it could not be toads In Augnst, 1844, I specified how it was to be cured. I satisdad that the lint specification would not da— Illele• pude& lidos wee aseewry. Previous to the *peel- Alialina being made, we bad sunk down into the embank- . mad, and found the tunnel defective at a joint of solid memory, and I wrote this specification to meet this defect. Ima never called upon to pass the work at ell. I received dlockg the progress of the works, in 1843, repeated cum ' pinista from Jonathan Thorpe, that the mamas were not doing the work according to the specifications. Capt. Moody—Did you appoint the ovcrlookers, iuul con sider yourself responsible for the work ? Mr. Leather—Certainly not; the commissioners ap pointed, paid, sad discharged the overseer. Captain Moody—Am you aware of any differences be. biota the mterlookers and the contractor, hum time to time, and particularly with reference to the puddle ? Witeesa—There were differences between them almost from the commencement. The overlooken reported then constantly to me, end also to the commissioners, and I in sisted upon the specifications being complied with. Being informed that the solid masonry of the embankment was had; we smile down to it, and found it unsound, being hacked only by rubble. We remedied it as far as we could, but did not entirely item it. The work I specified for in 1813 we. for the same defect, and that work, so fur as I know, wee never done. I was never applied to to settle it. The defect I noticed in July, 1844, was the same as that referred to in 1843. The Coroner read the specification, that the puddle hank inert be curried down to the solid rock, and asked it tho witates knew of his own knowledge it these specitiest.:ens were carried oat? Mr. Leather said it wee no part of his contract to see the carrying out of his plans and specifications. The Ishii. of Mr. litepheason specified that some other centleman would Misad to the works. lam not aware of any grating ut tho alrettie. Fifty-nine fret was to he the height of the waste /it, and the top of the embankment eight het above it. The height of the supply salvo was eight feet, and the ureic:Wl um of the culvert was 374 feet. The quantity of water coming through the valve is very email in cent. prima with the water that would come over the top vt the waste ph. The pressure of the water would be little ; flee time the square of the head. Supposing the shafting of the waste pat bad barn a proper height, and below the embeakisent, I have no doubt it would hove beets mdlialant to carry off the flood water. It would bays serried off ten million feet in twenty-four hours. In my judgment, the embankment, if made according to my speeilleation, was sufficient for any size of reservoir • the i ii totigg dope was 3to 1 and the external 2 tAisittpla is gave a bees of 5 feet for every foot vertical, width of the tip, which I think was 16 feet. T or FrleUtireyef the embankment woo owing C whisk WNW sad took away part of the • o w v" , • was the leakage I noticed and attemp . • ' 1843 salll 14. I bad then noticed a anbddl ' Imainsiat. It eery soon made its uppearan • . 4 .T ,j4...71' My Minute on the 2nd of Vabrauy, 1846, a -,;.• 116 311 " - ,f to . That Ii