The Express. — London, England, 1852-03-26 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TavzsDAv, MASCII 23. lb@ LON) CMANCELLOR took his Mt at 6 o'clock. PETITIONS PRESENTED. couNTT coiaTTlV.Byi:ori - iiii•WOifkat, from Doi- I , gellyoad Hardwicke, in favour of the further extension of ales, tear s. 'hart of lIIBLAND.—By the Earl of OLENGAT.'„ irons Tipperary . • sad the Earl of WICKLOW, from a place in the teeth o f Ireland, relative to the pub::4 digits dee fiat the unbars sad counties in Irelnid. COUNTY CO VATS. Lord BROUGHAM laid the table • bill to enable County Court judges to exercise jarisilietion in bankruptcy : sad insolvency in the assume proposed by the commis skeane in 1811. The bill was then read a Brat time. AFFAIRS OF INDIA.—AYA. The Earl of DERRY' said the uuble earl (Ellenborough) opposite had • question on the paper which he intended to put to her Majesty's government on the subject of the war at Ave. The terms of that notice were prematum ' as it re lated to what was called the war with Ave." Unfortu nately two hostile collisions had taken place, but there was no attest war between the two countries. There had been no declaration of war, and he was not without hope that it mightlyet be averted, tad, r these circumstances he hoped that his noble friend would pastrami asking for papers, or any questions or explanations about what had taken place until the arrival of the nest mail, which wouldprobably— simian certainly—put them iu possession of the full details of the case up to that time, and also the opinion of the Oovernor.Oencral on the spot. The Earl of ELLEN DORM:011 .aid it was impissible not to comply with the request of the noble earl, although he could not entertain the *AMC hope as the noble earl did, that there would he no war. lie was anxious to call at. tention to the ou'neet, not only with regard to what had passed, but still more as to what was before them. As however, he was to withdraw his notice, he hoped his noble friend would allow him to fit the latest day before the de parture of ttw next mail, and be would therefore name the bth of April. After a discussion, rased by Lord ELLIMIOROC4III, to to the divided authority exercised over the naval tomes in the Indian yeas by the governor-general and the commander of the squadron, The Earl of ObRBY gave Rotate that on Friday se'cn night (the 2nd Aprift he should move that • select commit tee be appointed to inquire into the charter of the East ladia Company. LAW OP WILLS AMENDMENT BILL. The bill for the amp mluunt of the law with regard to the ion of wills passed through committee. after some discussion. It esntained only the first clause; but the Loan Cu VICILLOR stated that he intended to lay on the table a separate measure containing the two other clauses which hr explained on Tuesday. THE EASP INDIA COMPANY. - - _ The Earl of ELLENDOROVOIt hoped the noble earl opposite (the Earl of Derby) would permit hint to ask whe ther he was prepared to name a day for the appointment of the committee upon the Eaat India Company's charter? The Esrl .1 DERBY said he had already given notice of • motion for Friday, the 2nd of April. The Ear: of ELLENBOROL7(iII perceived that in one of the rs ports (and us only one) the milit hon. gentleman at the beast of the Board of Control (Mr. Berries) was re ' presented al basing said that on moving that resolution in the other hois.e it a .is his intention to state his views on the subject. Ile (the noble earl) could hardly believe that his right hen. friend, who had only been three or four weeks in could he prepared to enter into a full explanttion ; but it wou:d certainly be a great satisfaction to him to hear Prom the noble earl that it was not his intention in any way to commit himself respecting the arrangements which were to be made for the government of India until after the' amplest inquiry. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of DERBY could not of course say what had been the praise language used by the right hon. gentle man, but be thought it prob ible that he (Mr. Berries) had only said he would state what would be the course he should think it expedient to pursue in committee. Ile (the noble earl) should certainly not feel himself justified in entering into any of the details or amendments that would mere properly come under the consideration of the committee. Amy observations that he might have to make would be of • very general character, for be was very de sirous that the government should be guided by the infor mation which would be obtained before the committee of the other house. {Hear, hem) THE IRISH LOANS. Lord 10:STEAGLE moved for a select committee, to which the tre.sury minutes providing for the repayment of the debts due fiver counties and unions in Ireland might be referred. The noble lord went ism the statistical of the various advances, and declared that though Ireland had no wish to evade the payment of her just debts, she had just reason to complain of the improvident way in which a great portion of the money bad been 'speeded. The Earl of DERBY had no °Nestle* to the appoint ment of the committee, whose duty it mould be to silt and examine the accounts submitted to them, to strike a fair balance between all parties concerned, and then he report to parliament, with a view to some legislative essiginent on the subject, fur he admitted that a recision of timber wee necessary for the purpose of affording relief to those losali• ties which had obtained the advances only for the peeping of preserving the people from starvation. The Earl of GLENDALE espremcd his satisfaction at tha propoeed alipainticent of the committee. WNW wes completely covervrheliwd by the sum whir:bolo V2B 2148111 on to pay, as by the Jewish rate of interest charged en it. It was imposeible to go on in this kind of way, for t h e NOM Ireland was distressed the more did parliament seem do• tinwined to tan her. De viewed this state of things with profound disgust. The motion was then screed to. Viscount TORRINGTON, who had given notice of a question whenever any papers had been received from Cep km on the subject of the uiffermsese existing between the Bishop of Colombo and his clergy, said he had teen in erwissunication with the noble lord opposite (the Earl of Desert), and lie agreed with him that it was not dream le, under present circumstances, that the papers should be produced. The Earl of DESART expressed his satisfaction that the noble sismunt had not thought fit to call for these papers. The subject should have his best attention. Their lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TimisDAY, Mtacn 25. The SriAims took the Chair at a quarter before four &dock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The followieg bills uere read a third time and posed : East London Waterworks; Mansfield Gas • Patent gild l Sewage Manure Company; Scarborough Market sad Ap presehes ; Wolserhampton flu; Bills. PARLIAMENTARY EXPENSES OF PRIVATE BILLS. On the motion of Mr. W. Parris, it was mimed OW the fees payable at the Roues of Commoss for 'slime jim perm and documents be reduced from 6s. and la. Is As. mad 6d. respectively METROPOLIS WATER BILL. Lord J. MANNERS moved that it be an instrection to the committee of selection that they have power to fix the committee on the Metropelitaa Water Bill for Thursday, the Ist day of April neat. Mr. B. COCHRANE believed that this bill, which had endinated with the lots, MA boa takes up by the ymeest government, wadi ast nes* most the min oder which the metropolis we math. ism the ,'Mat bail supply of water, both mto quantity se4 vaßty. It did ass sea go so far as to esspel the meeqsa t. to pewits a esZ ei t s s every home. The 17,400 liners which were sow say ow* of wan would remit iiitatatit this bill, shish •••••N WIWI' tb• l • lopyly inestirimitildbe shaded is say sesammea tits relmeteslAseityettbeestepayses. 4 evs..-,ft.,,, , i-nbi I"l"7l`Zetga the lower Masan. wi t = to the bin , its may siVerserea Ishe he the a wham I. manna sapiiiipel **the he ow pro *el we asennoy be se* OS W tiss warn bib shield p beton the emithialso Is bilisi so this respeetive merits, in the hope The. 55mr~ ... 1 . 1 Omit se the evils of which fhe hem goatimella Viscount EBRINOTON het sotii tbe plielMS proposal, that all the wain billy slssaid be relmared to the seas manatee. Ms. T. DITICOMBE esesidinitie et pest Implores* that the qualm of the wait lemply se the astrepolis should be andel seed One was ais lenolf tinir ors* to sa slily sal satlAtetory totlisnsed is ths wor s zt y y were sou gds/ as, Sr it was ad Itbse the by the isommilses would burnisele in sisal time Sr say saeessre le pon is the pissese miss. Ind year a coma mitts* set kw sin wake, mil aloft& sari ides* la ea lbe soblesk ad loins to be seposeled Ost Os ebelemaa et Oat esirmilisei liirelibt lon amber Sr *pea. did sot penile min Bos sonsines et Ols yew. Me would Um la ea seisnesiisalibot ibe tesorielsos power to take 'Mime SIM mit Sr pan* end remoda oni OM they be isms el to d their salads. to *is MR . A* a h nay er weeds bestir I. Ifillarterw. The /MARRS enesilAint the namdment mad he yet so a seholeadive semis% ani me* gluon Mr. T. DIINCOMBII wadi ' glee mass ibis Sr to (this day). -- ---- - The ameadneat was asessdio* widths*, sad the original notion agreed to. LONDON (WATFORD) EIPIPO-WATRZCOMPAN Y . Mr. U. T. HOPE myindesil Wit the ablest et this bill was to amble the compeity to draw a Imo silo* of water ken the asighbeerhool et WOW gar he supply er he isenspelle. Osepsnal soiheiliss hail esessionsd tint Owe was so worries valuate 'et mat 41 12ts . mamba is the 11,40114_42111ii5t. OE &Map some me.whish le timi sopply, ma mei_ ei Iwo bed et 12 silbs avid etosse la in o r s. nielea Mailman who were Dow per er oridnat tint assmary ei Its sad health: TM it Os yam ems, bad bees reputed by Mr. Rebels sod the eon sanisa et enimat shce by In Ins preins meat. Ind Ilabpa Sot . VV. isSidlailliailk lit gma issupsdiss, awl ' lho toally. la addition to the ademempse of in midi seatiamos supply, it wee pnyand ia die bill to dist etbn post heard*" ebespasse. The Margo et * Wen Mailmen sad seine - other seuesesks was at the sides, U. N. pas 1,000 • whereas the sharp of this anyway mead sever gslleoui airs thin O. o'lll,olo Kellam Ile uniserised he was to be opposed by the revs , - mistatisPes of the di water sem pa- YOB wits, he wee told, were very sesetese is the bowie, bet he bad csaiblease the bill amid menthol/se be read e 8101611 time, sa4 referred to the committee with the ethers. Mr. RUMMY opposed the it was sasooessory ; doe distriet wore o✓ it oa principle. Admitting metropolis was defective, to eery they should infringe e showed, sie he could, that ors the possessors of those rights for that could be given would be other that atee.cary - , fat convinced that the house would reject the bill. Amongst those who had reported in favour of this scheme there VIM ranch discrepancy as to the area trona which the with would be drawn and the quantity. And then, supposing the chalk in which tine water lay was permeable, if sny large quantity were drawn away it would leave all the exist tog wells sad the numerous null-streams d y, as had been the ease when the (trend Junction Canal Company's well sank into the chalk stratum some years ago, was pumped fur ten days at the rate of a million gallons a day. The loweredp company could well aiford to sell their w ould a prie than the old companies, seeing that the take that which belonged to others, who, if this bill pared, would bare no means of uhtaining compensation for the great *jure which would be inflicted on them. He moved that the bill should be read a second time that day sit months. After mine discussion, Mr. T. DUNCOMIIE said the metropolis needed not only a plentiful but • pure supply of water. (Hear. hear.) There could be no difficulty about sending this bill to al committee, by whom its merits world be investigated. Hon. members hail been deluged with papers in opposition to this measure ; and it was abundantly clear that its real opponents were the old compani.s, who had 86 representa tives in that house. (Hear. hear.) He hoped the house would insist on the settlement of this question in the pre sent session. Mr. HUME hoped the 86 members referred to would re tire, and not vote on this bill. This had been done un the St. listherine's hock Bill, when the members interested were challenged, and were obliged to retire. The house then divided: For the second reading Against it PUBLIC BUSINESS. Ma the — lnak - 1 eay ,r thre we Gila . tried ti Si and oar emmileg." To that be would say—scowl He would tell do Was lent that be did sot with to see the bantam of the country polled down. Al IN he dared is. Is en abuses removed and the hinheillthe eigenstbenell. Let each of the three estate, minis he owe position, alike independent in Its eleetenelasee% sod 1* its powers. Ile did not want to ' take tree the Howe of Peen eir lota of their privileges. He einewledged L . 4. 1 .4 w o rer e oft. meta atsi a hastier agar Mime . w oes 604 We piper oreatisa, et her emg ease ot agit Mk met be seppard, there at's let ke WWI lo hakes ma ea jest privileges. The setae lord at the heed el the poormest would tied Idea a reedy, eye, and a neaten ,Matra of their just Mlever ready to defend the with immiln. But he to see the Weems et the porn coelleed to he lip! timer spire he eigneed to We laterferiag with the not bona of the He would ask if there was say men in that been who theeght that the Rouse of Com ?moms woo sow a fell sad fair representation of the mem or the eeminedly. If any lets. meekest t se, let bin by and bye then teen We *pinkie le Se country; and, on the ether ha• nd, if all IMO ;I to do that, then was the aye tem evidently and, though hon. members might not agree nil sea the means of regeneration, they ought to delimit best to secure a useful alteration. It was a prineiple of the Whoosh of this country that every man should be tried by his gallows, and on that principle were founded all theirseeendings. A different principle however, prevailed with eegard to menthers of par li ament: The electors we met aimed to choose it their reprem toting any prim Wermeted with the landed Mesa 'fere me • pram& gealikatlem et NM for taw% eri 1911. ilar ge T d i ss enl MO nab Se Weer maw Weak wee elemetemse that Is liestrod therm re required. He empiamell Weir um if s r ilir eemot io were, under theme* epleewmeeepor NMI la thee ; and he moiled es the beers %se gm the seethars which existed mat thus to hem the pipit aniends of greet themedent and ties. As it precent moment. whim sterly everyone same emplephd o might hear little to alma them. Still. MI any ben to a 'evoke arnably in whit& the quart on how far that house was a faithful re tirements% thethuntry, mad he would soon find that men of all Wei eat the anomalies sherd be moved. •We rem ma* aim at effecting *all AIM in dm et gamed, ma pens. They should prepare he the storm in time, not kneeing when it would come. Should a state of things again sties dinar to that which existrd in 1812 or 1813, when a *Mies seism were out of employ ment, who could say amemedd be the emit i The people would fall back en whet They Maw to be unjust, and the most serious Wed use. If this, opinions were now, there be ems gonad for objeet ing to them. lle found, however, that very many years ago, on the 25th of May, 1792, in a petition presented by Lord Orey—not the present Lord Grey, but the Lord Grey —from the friend, of the people, amougct whom were, he believed, Charles James Fox and some of the fint peers of the day,. and through other channels, were sweated opinions in favour of the reform which he (Mr. Home) now advocated; and it was by such means aloes that this coun try could be enabled to bear the competition which would ere long come upon it ; the mar of the country having then become interested in the preservation of order. The noble lord late at the head of the government made use of en ex pression the other night which he extremely regretted to herr, when he said he was ready to vote for an extension of the suffrage to all who were worthy to receive it. Ills answer to that was, that he would not accept the suffrage as • favour, as it was the right of Englishmen to vote. (Hear best.) As to the effects of parliamentary reform, atm Lee Derby admitted that on looking back upon what lid MOMIni mime 1832, he could not perceive that the pre ren of the crown or the rights of the peers had been trod with. It was admitted on all hands, in fact, so far reform had red of the utmost advantage to ,sentry, sad he that lieglaad would nut have ..........,,........... a spectacle to other If lia bell sot been passed. The ex atLTiolintaA' arealltage so it bad tended to check what was termed "the Mier demurs y." if there were any dan ger in this imemey it seal wry be when It was lawless. As to the Nadi et ;ho amsorst," km marl that the dmatatay as ma ligli le iam le b • support cf their us MOO es soy IN of their fellow subjects; and be repeated, to Mee der just rights was the most likely war to preserve ilit eights of the crown, of the Hone if Peen, mil of the whole esemaity. Ile might pa* *Jay aillatitiss I. Avon of hie views. Tin besseefillg, the abswillor, ad she *mad et= seat "Am nee so gem eat. be hanellei bow. who me Whom to ppereawemN,e the lesitatim of the ism , try an Is teens the mprannia to their 'enmity whisk sow MIA Agee with Ida Id pulsating the P• of this IMMINA nom was whip mg pm .1 the smog Obkh olis on vying with OW pees hi der to the beet Ilmehrery for mannthertheleg puma 1= thin me in progress but the Hiss of Crams. That house was the taxing machine of the country, by means of whiehowery man's pockets were emptied. (Laughter.) For meek a purpose they ought to ham Mo ben possible ma nn that could be obtained. The Mese Mad be done to Seam inequalities, to place eneyelog la due propene, and to place the mass of the mmeeennity in a position to dims the wisest and meet suitable OM MO their repramMOMM. He had heard it objected the if the people bed the power which he demanded for them they would etE t. the it properly. It was very may be ear on sash Let them have an opportunity, red be had we he saying they would avail theemellthe M it. AS pare the mass of the eiremity were literally 'se lag Is the representation : thaw were taxed by a flew g cod the ormasen we let the taxation we meth mpg mad wrest, ad Ember had to beer a it greater prepertia thadaq mat or as. How could the vetoes of taxation to Mersa Wm the people wen bemsetly represented ? Let the hem mesa bet the ademes wish rend to Ile. Ahem la 'Mem to whisk am Mte man bed inkeed he hipper thee Ire felt Mose to have bra ingelap elerna of Wt bed he sat spa the inquiry he mid We Meg spine Musa (flee, hear.) On all those park, bads' at the kr pram sad meerity a sue a amen es eat whish he =klO iminime wham, Wake the soh el the IMO ids% be Alt aseiM IW army et the younger makes of that boor mead Me le see the day when a &Mei mein of weal be amid to the m) Asa find Is the sem, as a MI L le lesi z W i.. .,. frigid to the Gammon,, as sae who as Wwm all OWNS prielper k the beadle of • just Wm of rep resseisise be breettist the house to oh. Ise beet allsolies ID it whet. The heimiW man having lead ea NOW has a peeks ene sere* lehabiteato to Norwich, emplaning of baggy .id is the enniaipal seem He weal mime . ming he here Seeks la a " bill to meg : the b. eriarliag the skein Marehlee Wales,* that emery mu et fall age, and not to any maned or had d is ability who shall leave lees sealeat occupier W a bona, or draft if a hems a lap; he LI mole plea have bees sly Wei Its 110 VW ef Mal pale Ith lei ices, ail be regiseera am dense, owl he MOW to Me hr a sipmentative is parkereat:—Ake, by mai that ieW shall be taken by hags% that the denim of paw. weer ea met meld three years, and that the premiss or sopossoolslivas no mons Ire comiseset with the emusVIVI l l LlTSlTr i sseniied the nelism s wed is aim so Shea bib*. Mori het emermese vie asie head ilto pawed the palest ma theeelorks Wee house, sad nesmpatekte hie Ile the leepremin whistles irederidomtly weds set maq os the nosh, bat ea tie hem. It might be ham tot been IN meek of 11111 rapeasatativee lied supperla the seed* el his he. kind I bet he (Sir Joh* Weir Wra ee y ky) had we WM ties that amber would be eery very gently Lemed.beer.) He Wined it te be MINk II Witint M tans. TM notra breve/M. Irma wee laid ea medirmaq sal Pees. TM semi ari is berm e ta' s et el vemesmisOM bed fregrady s* th e rmies es ham mead so lane Mil Wla its pellisthe that it right me be Ma ss ed I s Mir mew s s t :vile el word la se lssills irinse l egi:g a ; bat muse eela the to names to Sir = remaraimel bin to =lt media ea what be Is be the Wee esiosay Wired by a Imo wejnity of it ',this neotry. These mesh* elemaltbe "brief ega to the pola. Whoa the amble Ire/ his la, he (Sr J. Walrery) tea ,nine to seer IN it weal met base the resat or the naimmes 'Mea nt. e Sabinneet ens* MI thee a he - wee . mew_ etallie ss M k sbie l it= led had mamma lib Mae to TIMIS the whole mow Whemer e tlisa ga liei arid posed to that man, be (lb J. W weld marsaiod Ma to tag Mr h I Mdse dm important peat of Wm whisk sum left est el the hem end Whisk me seem of Worn weal be ersiond by the people of this Meatry—ho aimed te the peteitios of the simiiir b i, s u : wk.. Rh Ws els. Virse tie meets ;rimed the noble lard the per or i the City al Larks was disparity between the =U and smog imam. He saw no mesa ay it be a is the ea ,era s sod 2111. la the other ; sad sas th th e e h hari e atiMe ssm l ss die ls Zer sPusi bed is til t that he aig were waseee - 44 len Ord it the ess of Withal he Vera they wield per A nus am usamorMi s :tlts Ait it es At the =l=s ; sod la le IN, whom treete sapper a mean le enure the lame* melee of the freaddie. The pope** ii ealloshies by the paymt of leas. gas ymm eto cop a elip is the sight aileseise, toil= as the bads et bet al4he i rei•-paybq erase Tire= evil' 0 _ gebka peal meson, sad up • sem tern, ebinmery, sad 41 night be ase Issk elis le reiliply imam the hem& faxisoly reperealed, bet be was st a hes to me. Weed law the mob* kett emeld jafity the seliM Ilf twe 'aerobe's to mm eseriemeies emi the rasa iem a One to ielpeetint titelene 41sIds% * Ho le Willitletithl an/ awe ityperies. Ps. eassailies do airs a the vres., Ma, lie w as p ernadied k was the say eared itag Oi l remon the enielinAtensee of dieseedent, and M sows the eon epee of the country. Ty ent ila y7ers ia a elapsed ere the noble lord the member for the City of Imes introduced the bill under the provisions of wide 1, ' 185 . Its 4dheM, there e ,..._ as a eels dry meenelni. I rendered more se. The red n on accorded the reed of praise for suet in representative system, and .dd. they were manta,' indebted fdt many of those mei.... , which would ever shed lustre on the masts of oar country. Whilst, Dowsest, they freely admitted the benefits, they could not eltut their eyes to the defects. They knew that the bill introduced by the noble lord was shorn of some of its fairest proportions, and , came forth a compromise of • first lateen, and to sonic ex. tent an abandonment of the declared principles upon which it was framed. The evils of rotten boroughs were only partially removed. Surely, It wee net unreasonable to ask the revision of • system of repereentation which after 90 years' test was found inadequate to its declared purposes, and which was generally admitted to be a censure on the intelligence of the age. In all respects save one the nation had pursued • career of program and improvement ; sim pered with 20 years ago, the population was vastly seg mented, and with the increase ire numbers there bad been more than a corresponding increare in intelligence, In the knowledge of public affairs, in the desire for participation in political power—compered with 20 years ago, our com merce bad assumsd • gigantic form, conquest and colonisa tion had either preceded, or gone hand is hand with, corn. merce, and, whilst new realms had been brought under British rule, our sons hail found now paths for industrial enterprise, were extending our language and our laws, were foundinginstitutions still more liberal than our own, and were enforcing the recognition of them institutions from the imperial legislature. The records of our literature during the same period showed an unexampled diffusion of every description of knowledge; each day afforded illustra tions of advance in the arts, in science, in literature, in commerce, in manufactures, In Het, in all that could distinguish a civilised, industrious, end growing people. In broad contrast to all this steed the fact, that there had been no adman se improvement in our representation. fine-sixths of One Wulf male population remained excluded been vein la fermiers the laws by which they were MOmMtls eir lane distribution of the funds to which they Ontelbuted m bier a proportion. A paper laid upon the of the louse gave the number of votes in the United done as 1,056,187, being I in 30 of the population, or lin of the adult males. The division of this number amongst Id, mombers, who had seats in the house, gave about 1,600 wan be **oh. Ile said votes, rather than elec tors, because amp persons had double, triple, and quad ruple votes. There was no return of the number of per sons holding than voter, but it was estimated that they did not exceed nose marten of a million. These statements appeared te him te involve one of two propositions ; either these were sit millises of adult males, so del/Geed by lent). else, vim, II UMW mend disqualifications, as to be totally walltesd fee the morels o' potential rights, or there was • grow monopoly of those rights, to the grievous wrong of a west mujurity of the tax-payers of this country. (Cheers.) Boa. gentieuteu would not cast the stigma upon the great body of the producing chums involved in the first of ens propositions. They must, therefore become the ed elweiss of justice to men who, ensurpasse'd in industry or insist virtue, were, nevertheless, so stigmatized by the Illey set of exclusion. (Hear, hear.) He had stated that the gross number of votes by which this house was culled together gave an average of 1,600 to each member; but there were IS geutlemon in this baton, or a clear majority, who represented only 141,372 votes, or 430 each, whilst the minority, or 327 members, represented 908,815 votes. or 2,779 esich. These fatty sufficiently indicated the inequali ties in the verities constituencies ; but, with the permis sion of the house, he wished to submit one or two others. The constituencies in the United Kingdom were 373, the pen member of votes, as before stated, 1,060,187, giving en nage of 2,816 to each constituency; 140 of these consli- Weed's were greatly below the average-83 as greatly above it. The 200 consisted of the most inconsi derable portions of the kingdom, and return 433 members ; the 83 embracing the great oats of industry, wealth and population, returned only 723. The average number of votes to each of the 443 members was Odd, toe average of the 223 members was 3,534. (Hear, hear.) Our electoral system might have been invented to art reason and equity at defiance and to afford a premium for every corrupt and unconetitutional method of determining our elections. (Hear, hear.) The extension of the franchise to many of our large towns had been rendered almost nugatory by the power bestowed elsewhere. If he was showu the wealthy and populous borough of Salford with one member, he pointed to the nomination borough of Caine wither member also, the one a tree constituency with 2,400 electors, and the other a proprietary borough with 159. If shown Man chester with 12,000, or Marylebuise with 18,000, he pointed to Thetford with 210, and to Knareaborough with 2.4.1), the two smaller boeongbe with 440 electors, equally in represent ation with the two larger ones with 29,990 elector,. These facto demonstrated the probability of neutralising the efforts of all the large constituencies, by turinasalliag the power of the smaller oues against theta. Let them, fur example, take a group of bereegba, and place them against one cenatitueney. There were in the house 106 gentlemen representing 02 atiestituencies, in which the greet number of electsrs was silly 21,131, about the same number as were contained in sae metropolitan borough sending only two members. These 106 gentlemen, with 21,131 electors, might neutralise the MN of 106 oths r members, returned by constituencies with an aggregate of 631,900 electors. Again, the last named 106 members, representing more than one-half the electoral body in the Ceded Kineum ' stood in the rela tive position, as compared with the whole house, of 106 to 650. Incredible as these statements might appear titer were sustained by the papers laid upon the table of the house. The figures were equally starteing, whether they compared boroughs with boroughs, or counties with counties. There were 12 county members, representing an average eau/Whalley of 273 electors each; 12 others with 581 each ; 12 with 788; 12 with 1,595; 12 with 2,7116 ; and 12 with an average of 6,810 each. Of these 72 county con stituencies 60 had 106,669 elector', whilst the 12 nembered 111,462. The 60 sent Oil members, the 12 Indy $4 members to the house. The right lion. gentleman the Channher of the Exchimmer bed, • few evenings back, some of times dispmi*t he (the Chancellor of the rete l yser) bed shown use uirities in the representa tion of the amities. But seeing those disparities he did hope that the tight hon. gentlemen would not shut his eyes to others, wbish psewd still asolge bonny spots the lower orders. TM Ma. gentleaseinasst he aware of them ; and, if he desired to remove them, dwir (le reformer.) would he gin to help him in doing en Meer, hear.) Sofa dent bed hen mid to show that the preent mode of return ing members le the house was not based em resin or ho misty, sr tbepeissiples of our constitutions Ry roma of the numerous weednetion boroughs, the interemeed thdr tern' Ltdisrwer. and the Chandos darn, the peers were to end into this house a solid* wrearest of their relations sad seppotters to dictate taut to every Mahn- Wenn. Nee was this the only evil, the arrimensed then !selves wire chess& from this class, sad gliemns nil pines seekers enter through boro Pa - Manage is all powerful, or wher e an .entoipotent. Perhaps them might Ise eat sisimpldes in the peasant government, and lio Wig glad to see net there were 1 several Independent geed** in the anshlry. (Cheers.) latimidatioe s corruption, Sea unions modes el demeralin des were the esesequeneeed lee rgelltai tad 6111 Nem of Commixes, hasten of being • reel eigementattem of the whole people, was virtually the repeeselatation of the peen the army, the navy, the church, and file goverment (Rear, hear.) The ellen of this slam nn the taut* sad expending!, of tie ershery were sa unequal and op gneiss mode of Wag the se, by which the One mai of MOquentry were restricted, sad to Midi ma monk Men* deteriorated. The burden wen made te peen in tft hmmerretio - of the power to mends lightly whose mean were the ge g i e limi ti m s the distr flu ibution - arth w lsse of tlie P 7u e 2 de kis was had for the public *min On ihe the of those who could corn meal inframe. There might be those who _ threger ,in • plan which would Ibrie tr liendad the number ef elenewin * II pies. Is believed stash egelefx r . Lie b• allogises..... _._ _ _.i 'be &WM. If any, week' eries • son, me avaliani to act justly %pnlista . lati - i - ,7410 no t —- only bpetheir rights, but their power to enforce them. of labour, equally with the employed, agreed die extension of the franchise without the ballot would better than cannery. Ile spoke under correction ; t t hot *believed they Raked no mere than the eonatitution Vato them who bars the burdens and fought the ne state. • The Imre Torbert/it by the /!..=ms, Ile. =HST DIMUIOND rose,betwea barely rear. The bons ember we rieratood to say that the promat, doer == ie d peetadeb *as certainly a e art owe ter i the gesetlea of reins, be upon' the ellemliee et Woe do lax et entre belay =sedeereemmt rereet, w every leo primal& I:: &ire err relay es hie 'Grasmere' es bet as peril.. le beer= dit demereashad base beeeeld in for , tbe loyeermear he ow elpreatedo weer, sr are now 'odes tali et do rem - Thb serfth4 rad the ger ties wee the oftere et the georemisat, and leo Al lope that they rule est, me erre gerarrate bad roe. pooh posh a wren of sub hapertmese—(heer. bear)—. sad allow IS to be ands um et or et 6111111 foe iheliems perm His oloestiss , le do Mae re. data hal seve r that it 0111111111114 a• pare& (Moan hear.) is did net re what eemerelem la led with the .bathe * amedare roe thee 91. lea; He belleved that the pro p" Imlay ewe would be S. ors the pserion stare seremarive with merles be 11M stabs. A arcs Imo pre .be satisfy any ediester, but if be bit stoeft date on n soldier sr so.. EONs son, he remit be seta rd le the =errs et tho framers& (P Wiz) Whirr* la slather ba shie en verb es edonalleme isareteree beta boa ho neer to my bet Sr. He alluded Se the whisk be err Weed to be an affair of the rear raledialy, sr that if dry ward to rut they sherd be eopoperamel to de is. (Hear, Mar.) it they for Is are =R to stead on eat v g aris on re when vet.., he was quite Mend to thous=f vase. (Laughter.) Ho Ord the rierelso upon lira as thes the trawalreAsyld raitably tele= her. bet dialbses wen resides to yea added to Ilio i rV at roses 1 41711 11 :ot ide s:a filar things to similar bet to the prow body of electors added • Limo ilitirellil u very differeut kited. To illustrate l i t° this he would take lb* OW lithe so banks, where he luund that while titore , IMO depositor, of 2001. each, the aleurbse of under 201. was 1177,600, au indication that if you e the franchise as was proposed, you would hand over the electorate to the poverty of the kingdom, whose numbers would swamp all the rest. With respect to the property qualification, he be lieved that it was necessary, mud that do reason urged • grainst it—tamely, the aimber of fictitious qua:illation , ' was a ese, end, if rieegniaed, might laid to the de s of eserjassy boxes and other national apatite . • alb away mkt the property qualification would Bad to an equalttpef poster between rich and poor, and that would soon result in an equality of property, as the hung.y animal would soon come to a tussle with the full one. As to the noble lord, the member for London's plan for balancing the landed interest by extending the agricultural boroughs, he thought it founded on a bad principle and calculated to perpetuate that war of classes which, more than anything else, was to be deprecated in this country. The noble lord had been twitted with the narrow basis upon which he had formed his administration, but those who twitted him knew little of the difficulty existing in such cases, for the prime minister had not only to consider who would be the best man for his purpose, but also whether some enlightened constituency was not likely to prefer an empty chatterer to a great statesman. (A laugh.) Ile thought the best plan would be to treat miuieters as the servants of the house, to tend fur and interrogate them when necessary as to the hots sines, of their ecveral departments, and by so doing they would in his opinion emancipate the government, and as a general rule get better servants. In conclusion, he would say that if ho were to take up the pro. fession of reformer, his great desire would be to reform the House of Lords. (Cheers and laughter.) It was there that lie felt there was the weakest point in our constitution. The power of the House of Commons had increased, was iucreashig, and ought to be diminished ; and he wanted to strengthen the House of Lords, in order that it might be able to withstand the encroachments of that house. Ile objected especially to the system of proxies, and also thought that a great improvement might be effected by giving the crown power to appoint peers for life. There were many men a ho might render good ser vice to the state in that capacity, nod yet had net means to transmit to their heirs for the support of a title. (Hear.) Sir W. I'. WOOD thought that they were more especially called upon to enter upon the discussion of this question at the present time, in consequence of the principle of government which had been laid down by the Earl of Derby. Ile understood that noble earl to lay it down as a principle that he was not only op posed to proceeding any further with the bill that had been introduced by the noble lord the member for London, but had also declared in unequivocal terms that the principle of his governm sat would be to oppose all the attempts of ele• magogues ; in short, to sustain monarchy against democracy. Now the noble earl, in the use of the word " democracy, ' had no doubt taken the course indicated by the Attorn,y- General in a former debate—that of calling out " mad dog" against anything to, which he was opposed. The word democracy might be a very good or a very bad word, according to the sense iu which the noble earl had used it. If he contrasted the noble earl's port lament with that to which be had succeeded, he would ask, had that government ever done anything to advance democracy In its bad sense which meant insurrection ? (Hear.) lie be lieved it would be found by all nations very WPM that there was no safe basis for government except confidence anti die affection of the people —not merely their affection, which might be only an impulse, and therefore uncertain, but their judgment ripened by political education, which enabled them to know who were best fitted to exercise the functions of government. Ito asked, then, was the noble earl who talked of setting up the monarchical and putting down the democratic principle prepared to limit hie confidence in the people of England? (Hear.) If not pre paral to limit it, he (Sir W. I'. Wood) asked on what grounds he rested the claims of his government to power ? Was he prepared to say that the franchise should never be extended? If so, then would our present register constitute a monster demonatio oligarchy of a million end a half, who would ultimately rule the country to the exclusion of the rest of the people. (Hear, hear.) It was the want of con fidence in the life and energy of a nation that would destroy ally government, and he would say at once, let the noble lied say what he might, that no government would stand fee many months in this country which should commit the fetal error once committed by one of the greatest of our psiblie men, that of declaring itself against all reform. Why, oar whole life in this country was ono of progress, and why should we stand still in political development mere than in anything else? (Cheers.) '1 hey had heard a singular doctrine from the hon. member who bad just eat flown, who had deprecated reliance on the people, lest that reliance should be misplaced. If, he would say to that hon. member, there was danger in admitting a larger number of the people into the con,titution, would the dan ger not be lust the same in keeping them out ? The hon. member had next said, " What have we to do with the ' ballot ?—it is a question for our constituents." Ile replied, true, but unfortunately the constituents were not in a eon , dition to help themselves. (Hear.) Ile believed that all the constituencies wished to vote secretly ; he knew he did. And therefore he thought the honourable mem ber's argument most extraordinary. (Hear, hear.) Bat they were told to beware of democracy, and to look at the condition of France. Ile load looked ei great deal at the condition of France, and he had come to the conclusion that if we wished . .0 avoid tho calamities that had afflicted France, we must avoid the errors into which her govern• wens had fallen. They all knew that before the first re. +elution there was a system in which the government was everything and the people nothing. They had never any political education except what the lawyers acquired iu the beat parliaments, and the nobility were exempted from all taxation, while the people were heavily burdened. The consequence was that they soon rose in one of those tremen dous insurrections which he trusted wo should never see in this country, and had been in a state of confusion ever *Mot, grasping at a system in fragments, and not trying to build up anything of their own—now taking something from England, then from America, and out of them vainly attempting to frame a constitution. But nothing of Out kind had been witnessed in this country, where confidence was the hasps of government, whereas in - France the most prudent of her kinss, Louis Philippe, had no confidence in the people, nor • hail he given them any rational exercise of the franchise. Nothing of the kind had been attempted. (Hear, hear.) The French people never knew what it was to bow to the decision of a majority, or to be guided by public meetings, except in the cases of a few clubs in Paris—that was the state of things which they were told 'ought to frighten them, and prevent their giving the people of this country their just rights. He (Sir W. P. Wool) amid that that was exactly the state of things which should ,be a warning to them that they ought to give the people those rights, lest they should be forced to admit them to the privileges which they ought long ago to have ola• mined. The hon. member for West Surrey said he did not know what the roustitution of England was. He cell t •inly did not appear to know, because be seemed to think that small boroughs were made a part of it for the purpose of admitting into parliament men of ability, who might otherwise be excluded. That might be an ad vantage, but if it was, it was only an accidental one. It was 'at one time considered by constituencies to be a burden to send representatives to parliament, and they were only given to large towns ; and there was no such intention with ; regard to small boroughs as that stated by the hon. mein. her. The real fact was that at the time of the Reform Bill 'that was one of the abuses of the representative system, which, if it had not been remedied and swept away by parliament, would have destroyed the constitution. lie knew what the constitution was, which, like the oceenee law, was not to be found in any written book ; but which, in practice, had become interwoven with our system of go vernment. They hail been taunted, and especially the nobhs lord at the head of the government, with advocating continued changes and shifting* in our institutions. Even if that were so, was it not the very principle of our constitu tion that it should be extended ? Had there not been in the last 20 years development in every thing except in our representative system ? Had not commerce and manufac tures greatly increased, and had not whole towns arisen in that time? There was one town to which the late govern ment had intended to give the franchise of which St. Albans was to be deprived—Birkenhead. That town did not exist at the time of the Reform Bill, yet it had now grown as leggree te be selected for the transfer of the fran chise Ikea Ili. Albans. That fact alone spoke volumes. Then again look at the system of railroads ; that system had not then egotists up, and what was it now sad large towns were everywhere rising around those railmaih. He was glad to MO SO it was sit is 'material things alone that there kat WM this pot loess ; but there had been a great advisee In the edulatheal mad intellectual acquire ments of the people. The Clods I.llllllllklll Society alone bad Weed the amber of its pods has 400,000 to a ma ths etas. e Rehm Bill, and - there had toe a similar Mama* wrier ether educational heftiness. Look also to the solos bane eon to the foi► sad it would be found that the people had advanced es regarded habits of fru sitllll,,s as well r in adulation intelligence. Y .. the peo ple were going ea at this rate of all else stand still, and those who had Ig ‘ llelfieri /legal, more educated, num intellipent mem .rtale inammanity be excluded hot the enjoyment of edt s allenellie lmt t zu statedd i o ft l he dose. that the presentsystem wee 'maintained, that lie fo ot' the oaa aTe eele 10th April, there were 200 or 300 men at MUM ea the houses of parliament, and they objected t• be sworn in as special constables, saying that they would be ready to defend the building from say attack, but they declined to be sworn in as special eon stables, to go out against their " own order." Ile (Sir W. Wood) saw the element of danger in such a declaration. Let such men mingle with us in a community of rights, and they would not be of themselves .• an order." (Hear, bear.) Exclude them from the franchise, and you make them "an order." The hon. member for West Surrey said that there was no principle in the bill lately introduced by his noble friend (Lord J. Russell). It was true that there was no principle in the question of a difference be tween a 10/. and a 51. qualification, but the principle was ' that it created a test of intelligence and an interest in the affairs of the country, which might be gathered from a man continuing to reside in a partienlar spot, and occupying a house, and being perhaps the father of a family. The hon. gentleman might as well say that there was no principle in the qualification of a 40s freehold, which was a franchise as old as parliament itself; and it was adopted as 'a test, though no doubt a rude enc. He (Sir W. Wood) would so ex tend the franchise that he would not refuse the test which was mentioned by the hon. member for West Surrey, but ho thought there ought to be some test which was coupled with the fact of residence, which was most important. It. was ready to admit, and be proceeded on the principle of there being no abstract right in anyone to anything in this country. Ile knew nothing of abstract rights. Every preen was born in a particular sphere and condition. The hon. gentleman who seconded the motion odd he could not understand how such and such things had forted their w ay into our cons itution. Why, we hail no cut and dried eon initiation, but it was, as it were, a living thing, which we must mold and reform in the best way that WO can. We had, however ' general principles although we had no abstract rights, and the first of those principles was to trust the people, sad to confide in them. (Hear, hear.) It might be said that the franchise sheuld I be refused to one set of men because they were not beta. • cloudy educated to receive it, and to othen because they were shifting and moving from place to place. That neiala he so ; but it was monstrous to say that only one milliee of j the people were intelligent enough to exercise the right of the franchise. (Cheers.) That he would never admit. After the result of Mr. Locke King's motion last year, the new s lord at the head of the late government had decl ired in fa. your of an extension of the franchise. lie (Sir W. P. Wood) was delighted, because he then saw that such a measure would soon be carried, although he had never bated ono jot of hope before as to its being done sooner or later. The noble lord had not only made that declaration, hut in the speech from the throne at the beginning of the present session there was a declaration that the present state of the representation of the people was not satafactory. He (Sir W. P. Wood) maintained that no government could long exist in office without bringing forward a measure of this essential character ; and any government which succeeded one antagonistic to melt a measure would he obliged to in troduce souse plan of reform. lie did nut despair of getting such a measure even from hon. gentlemen opposite. (Loud cheers.) Hu did not see why, if at the general election, they pronounced in favour of such a measure, they should not get it. (Load cheers.) They did not know till then what was to be done with regard to the grant to Maynoeth. (Cheers.) They die/ not know what was to be dune with protection. (" Hear, bear," sold cheers.) Ile believed that the people would pronounce io favour of reform in parliament, and if it was not obtained from the 'mewed government it would be obtained from some other. (Hear.) That being so, he did not see that any good was to he at. tamed by pledging members to any specific plan—(" as . ' and cheers)—notil they saw whether they were likely to get any uteasure. The motion of the hon. member far Maori:We embraced a variety of subjects, is must of which he (Sir W. Wood) concurred. But he wished to have an opportunity fir discussion, and to be free to vote fur any measure that misfit be proposed. (Hear, hear.) He agreed with the host. member for Montrose that he should not be satisfied with any measure which was not accumpeined by the ballot. Ile would vote for such a measure whenever it was proposed, but in the meantime, as it was utterly im. possible that the bill which was now proposed could he carried, although he would not vote against it, he would not take any further part with regard to it. (Cheers.) Mr. NAPIER said that the great objection to this motion was that, it carried, it must lead to universal suffrage. Ile had often heard this question ably discussed, and he bad heard on those accession, from the noble lord, the menthes for London, such sound constitution .1 doctrines as had ill. duced him to vote against the motions which had been inn le by the hon. member fur Istoutruee, He was unwilling to change that system a hich existed in England, and which dealt with human nature as it found it. lle was not averse to the extension of tile franchise, but he thought in lowering the amount of qoalification they would not be acting in consistency with the principles of the constitution involving es they did the maintenance of the monarchy and the House of Peers. Ile would 1114111. taro that moderate qualifieetion for the enjoyment of the franchise which had been fixed, and which was within the reach of the industry and good conduct of every non, and by which means every man was enabled, by hi. (, II IX , e dema to avail !thumb of,the privileges tdrottl4,l by our tree and happy constitution. There might he imp. rieettons in the present system, but they sprung only from the Wiper. fections of human nature, and any efforts to sorest th em could only be e ff ectual which were foulided on the educa tion and enlightenment of the people, and not ennui% shifts and cootrivauces as the ballot box. Secrecy, under any circumstances, was opposed to the feelings of Englishmen. Mr. ROEBUCK agreed with almost everything that haul been said in reference to this proposal by the hon. and learned gentleman the member for Oxford (Sir Page Wood). Ile diffrre d from the bun. and learned gentleman only in respect to his reasons fur avoiding the complete considera tion of the motion at the present time. He (Mr. lior back) would accept all the reasons of the hon. and learned ges-so man, hut he would not be guilty of the courage that sug gested the conclusion. Why was this motion not now to be entertained just as well as at any other time? They wen to look to the history of this question to understand its present position. A proposition for the reform of the con stitution of this country was proposed by the noble lord, the number for the city of London, in 1531 ; and that pro poeition was made an act of parliament in 1832. Tweuty years had passed ; twenty yearn of experience of the changes accomplished in 1832 ; and now in Itt32 the allele lord, acting with the bon. and learned gentleman, the member for the city of Oxford, had conic forward with a new reform which was to be a reform of the Reform Bill. Why had these propositione in 1831 and 1832 been made. Previously to 1b32 this country had been governed, not an the hon. member for West surrey (Mr. Drummond) supposed, upon a distinct system, but upon mere chance and the working of chance, by the oligarchy of this country. Ile used the phrase " oligarchy " as heater expressing his meanie; than " aristocracy." It was by a small proportion of the landed interest of this country that the House of Commons was returned. That House of Commons became the dominant body in the constitution. Thus, therefore. a small portion of the aristocracy became the rulers of England. Then there came the Reform Bill. The narrowed oligarchical House of Commons became a very different power. The landed interest was no longer the predominant interest. There was introduced, and there still remained, the repre sentation of that large proportion of the wealth of this country which proceeded from manufactures. But we KM, and the noble lord no doubt saw, or hit would not have male his new proposal, that all this wasarnot enough. Still the representation was imperfect; for there were millions in this country who had no land, and who had none of that species of power which is derived from wealth, but who had nevertheless intelli gence and morality, and, with the two combined, had opinionsus o f whicheora Com m ons. were d eservin g ~at was o w f an r e t gel! n e a t4 , t e i or io t u a se the f Commons ? They wanted in that house a body of men who rancho:lgal ftfry the intelligence, and next, the stool feeling of the country. Was that want supplied ? Would any one Pay that the intelligence of this country was repre sented by persons who possessed land? Would any ono say that the good feeling of the country was represented by the possessors of land ? (An Hoe. MEMIIELL on the back ministerial benches here rose, and protested, as see under stood, amid cries of " Order," that Mr. Roebuck ems out of order in offering insults to the landed interest.) Ile (Mr. Roebuck) did not understand the interruption, and he was sure that such an interruption could only proceed from a person representing lend. (Laughter.) Well, was the in telligence and good feeling of the country represented by the possessors of what was called " wealth, " the wealth of the great mercantile and manufacturing interests ? No, not all ; by neither laud nor wealth. Therefore they must take some new means of producing the adequate and exact representation they sought. There was a great elms in this country which needed to be represented. He would refer to the claw of instructed artisans. These bad neither wealth, so called, nor land. But they had well-trained in tellects, as well as well-trained hands. They were men who, from day to day, by their own labour, secured sub sistence, and something mere, fur themselves and for their families. They were men who in their lives set an example to other clauses of society. They had all the qualities, as a class, which good citizens ought to possess. And yet—he would not say designedly, for he acquitted the legislature and the noble lord, but as it were pr lam Wass —these men were excluded from all voice in the govern ment of their country. He was not talking for abstract r;ghts. Ile agreed with the hon. and learned gentleman (Sir P. Wood) that they could not talk of such a thing. He did not understand the term, and he would not use it. He would not say that the men of whom he spoke had a right to be represented. But he did understand, and would declare this—that if the intelligent and honest artisan class ef-thisoestantry wee est represasted, there could nut be good government in this country. The bill of 1832 did not ie. elude that class; the bill proposed the other day by the noble lord still left it out. Now this proposed bill of his font. friend would include that class. The terms of the motion re ferred to lodgers. Take a man living in London in lode. ings. Why, supposing all the other qualifications to be good, was a lodger to be excluded? He (Mr. Roebuck) did not want a lodger in London to be a constituent, be cause that lodger would agree with him ; for there were ten chances to one that he would not. lle wanted him to be a constituent because he was a man pining his owe subsistence, because he was an instructed man, and, thirdly, because he was a moral man. Possesaing these three qualifications such a man was as fitted to vote for the return of a member to that house as any gentleman oa the ministerial beach. The intelligent artisan class was *NM m al e l n o . the d r Representatives of land, indeed ! Why, was not land is other counfries ? Representatives of wealth, indeed is ci ringu l is v hc o d rthy E Was not wealth in other countries? But that which wit _ nic T l. hey d , above o g all o o t t h h e e r r E n rye b l o is n h; not to be found in other European countries was a body of men trained to labour, with vast powers of mischief, but, as a body, well instructed, well trained, and obedient t o the letter of the law. Clearly these men ought to have th eir representatives in that house. Without such represents lives it was not a House of Commons. A noble loot (Lord Derby) had used oertain suspicious phrases in another One. What did the nehle lord mean by democracy ? lie (M! . . Roebuck) could not understand the sneer. "Democracy. as ho took it, was equivalent to the populus as opposed to the plebs. lie did not want a partial Rover!: meat ; ho did not want an aristocracy, or any other section to be dominant. lie wanted fre t wonlpopulas; that included all, and that was best trans lated by our word " nation." Did the noble lord de m os the all—the nation? There was a new meaning, ithat latterly, to "democracy." Did the noble lord intend to hin the English artisan class had got any notions about . 'nm- The munistic principles? Notoriously they had tote . " moment a man gained anything by his own labour , as the man one might depend on to come forward a nd soy, " That is mine—mine and no other's." That was t he m a to uphold the sacredness of property. He (Mr. Roebuc k) _ ignorant and benighted; and he would not say whe t they would not speak of the agricultural labourers. They ..7 , might think. But this he knew, that in the maaufac rth4 communities the artisans would be the tint Tes.,,". oppose themselves to communistic doctrines. Will , n these being the qualites, characteristics, and tenel.i e n , c ,vo. the artisans of England, he wished to know from t pants of the Treasury bench, and from the late min • _ for they, too, were unfriendly to this proposition o alit hon. member for Montrose—what they were erre id_, the Ile would unwillingly consider the other Poi' motion. But certainly the right hon. and 1. aT • man (Mr. Napier) had made use of sons astoun o ._ meats about the ballot. (Mr. Roebuck) sh oe thousht that the phrase " cal ho72!, 7r e ' . posed assay front parlismentery vocahnlaries. tient tin.wer to the " un-En ballot was used iii all elute+. g he clubs it writ a socutl o ,_ ; ., lieu' suagestion was I,b_ a , t , ‘ „. nience ; at the pulling booths it would be a pretest' s* 2:07. political combats. Don't deal with this quest!eo by s r u " the right hon. and learned gentleman did not . , k Ya • ' . TH ' EXA3E43, WD AY EVENOING. MARCH . • ... , , ,-.-.• . I . s ~ C opposed the bill. ea r:' ,. _..., was, Sit u tiri e l ti hey wpm anew stumbled. With all in r. :41, • nnfa=ltto i , 'OW Rohn, •• I her aide , I are guest It, corrected may/ Swain evils, and re, Admitting veer sup faL ti 0•11 • ,„' • ot try, I madi'my the election of ammtbers to that house. lefretive, to IMII•nt was Inssibk sp • . ' • of alidielf end My ores& in reform is awry part of the country ace 1 infringe ea jilting rights, 'sad whiniti 'IM w • • which an Paled its the moral ite the meanest and his that colleagues their fun raced il6 4iu ;old, that this bill would inflict so injury Moos that stand its the prisoner's deak ut which are improvement on our then represented aof those rights for 'thick no comperwatioa not sewer*, of t h e month of the Mb minister of the mated that to the reform set they were wen woula be ether lissu mokkeep, he felt jdm etanttly la the world, I my we eiset that many of these measures which would 1 he house would reject the bill. Amongst l we dull lso . tried by Gtd sed,...mar °outstay." the minds of oar country. Whilst, ha . reriffogs PA &ILI AIIIRNWIZT11;;;;IV-113iii: W WILLIAMS, from 1,611 electors of Lambeth, in favour of Mr. Humes motion for parliamentary reform. NEW WRIT. . . Mr. IIAYTER moved that a new writ should be directed to is.ue for the Monmouth Boroughs, in place of Mr. Reginald J. B:ewitt, who had accepted the oWe of steward and bsiliti of the manor of Hemphohme. Agreed to. NOTICE OF MOTION. Colonel THONiFthiliays7 notice that on an early day he would renew, with some alterations, the resolutions he had lest year laid on the table of the house, on the expedi ency of taking measures to meet the possible effect of the leer( sae of sold on the holders of national securities. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE FOR THE RECESS. Mr. HUME asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what decision he had come to respecting the adjournment of the house? After the notices were ballotted for last Monday, several had been fixed for Thursday, the Bth of April; and a doubt afterwards arose whether the house ought not to adjourn on the day before. In the event of that being agreed on ? be should like to know what was to become of those motions ? He hoped that those notices which stood on the paper for the Bth would be considered as fixed for the Tuesday after parliament re-assembled. Mr. DISRAELI said he found that last year the house adjourned on the Tuesday, and he wished to follow that precedent on this occasion—(hear, hear)—but he found that the right hon. gehtleman the member for Devonport (Mr. Tufuell) had fixed Wedn .day for the second reading of the Property Qualiticatiim for Members Bill, and he should be sorry to interfere with any vested interest which he might hare in the notice book. (Laughter.) if the right bon gentleman, however, had no objection he would move that the house adjourn on Tuesday, the 6th, to Wed nesday, the 19th of April. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME—What will become of the motions fixed for the Bth? (Laughter.) Mr. TUFNELL said that he had no wish to interfere with what appeared to be the wisbof the house, but he hoped be would be placed in the same position, with re gard to bringing on his motion, after the re-assembling of parliament. PROTECTION TO EXHIBITORS. Mr. HENLEY, in reply to Sir Da L. EVANS, said a bLI would be at once introduced into parliament to continue the protection which the parties who brought forward new inventions in the Exhibition had op to this time. ROMAN CATHOLIC PRISONERS IN SCOTLAND. Mr. REYNOLDS having asked a question in reference to the provision made for the religious instruction of Roman catholic prisoners in Scotch prisons, Mr. Secretary WALPOLE explained that such prisoners were permitted to receive religions instruction in their cells from clergymen of their own religious persuasion. SALARIES OF OFFICERS IN TIIE POST-OFFICE OF EDINBURGH. Mr. O. A. HAMILTON, in reply to Mr. COWAN, said that the subject of the revision of the sealer of salaries in the Miami est of the Peni-ornise did not appear to bateel the attention of the Teem, Moder the lots govennseisli. Neither was them ea. seep of ea intention to sepia a eminission for a verilign of ssindas. It was not Mat band= of the present IMINIMMONS 111 appoint a commands& In Inquire into this majmi e ent being of egatien that this was a wag aYtM idissald be loft ea the smgensibility of the Poste us denertarint Smelt If th• be.. pintleman had any case and kid it tie Treasury. it would receive both from the Post , and the Treaewrevery attention eonsident with the pressure of liminess is *see departments. THE MAYNOOTH GRANT. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, to • ques tion put by Mr. Know', whether it was the intention of the government to introduce, in this or the neat session, any measure to repeal the set conferring the grant upon May nooth College, replied that it was not their intention in the present parliament to Mt/odium any bill for the repeal of the grant; and that, generally ipeaking, it appeared to him that Inquiring as to specirie measures to be brought forward in a parliament not yet elected were not such as any mi nister was upon to answer. EPISCOPAL AND CAPITULAR ESTATES. Mr. GOULBURN, in reply to a question hen Mr. PORTAL, stated that pm/mak for the reveries(' of lornissid latureas Mader the set of last ausies I ra is hem lamp Archbishop of Canterbury end the Awns of Lewis sad Darien le the Zceletleseleal Cemoiriassee, awl he MA ream es Ulm that she egedleatiana would some before the lewd from Maw amasdistisel tar porstions. CEYLON. In rower to Lord 110;1;;JZ -- air J. PAKINGTON said that than was no objection to lay an the table the report of the flaanee committee of the executive council of Ceylon. PARLIAMENTARY 1111FOILM. Mt NU YS NMI that when be beseght forward his ma pen la pislismishap satlraM hit imelee. h. was met Is. es *NM= es the pea et sequel shishies who priessM lirm=gihfifiiilloljkli ewe wee sedan &Seib hi his est theillitepiesilleet sees es aa abatis* teem ties. It ems liaresible is hem cyders like • Ids sips. moths or tie c cr el i s a ft that how without the nub Ile babe* best.) It was aim impish's* that i* abseil NS be with the owe \haul: to =t el ot ge b= gi r l e mai l: io n=colos whe Alb te_ is se Sim 'et lion et hem . come ether ebralnine. Ms pia. Imetrie, peedisi abseil he the Mir of • pahlie Mile le lush let = ratio et every puma r_eeiliag to • hems er in • et • hew. Ms believed that sum of the most valuable isis is the eseentry them who contributed met to Its writ, seselled ase gell.. 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