The Express. — London, England, 1847-06-01 00:00:00

Mr. Das Mr. LOCULAILT. th e h bib. sacln. hem Tana , . pier howCand. sesam Mmihriellem et Mainbess (hostbseC MO. By Mr. throossia. thirteen p.dl is Meer el the Memento( Ret:tht...4d Market. By Mr. lassie.. frees MensbOelbes. lies of a plow Dsimetshire ; H. riot, tress BieMieltbla; Mr. T. Descants., frOri Durham ; Mr 0. Omar, hem Deveirpert ; Mr W. Movslrusen. trust Southwark : an.l eset. ,mar., brae Prisbana ; I. Ashur et the yartieleehre by Boma Maoism be the BileedineW Groat. FIRST IRADING&--Pariliuneetarf lieston, Merin SIM" Nees and flicker; ehrriagen Data% Subs en Seep; INN* ;SECOND IMlADlNGS.—tlighway iteMay Tema Meney lemeMemat (Derr); BIM TWILL) --- of themes, &c. ( imead) itThiNf Nur ORDERE D. Oa the 'math et Dm borsuma—Leer d the per tree;. the duty Ivied by the albs from kW of Jos i 1111/4 to eh el Jam km, shooing the sob of /Wm Inch JAW. Imo Se othoothe eesehot co sock; d the Mt sosuthe. ethiblfros the torn el ollustlme I el the visabot of smith mimes to ash err ninth the oreher of easthatheeththe, the refer frith the amine ow=k i fro mb eeimeef ',therm perlito. So smooth ogle ma the 500001 set of gni • pthowthems Hied Pee uri.t—ltetnitt of the meth d visitors me nthol lope chaste to see the state apthamote et Sr mtethosest Palms O m Windoor Ca•die, end tbe Royal Bonnie Width% at Kew. Ithter Om canes 106 and 1646, distinguishing the niegeher in mash =math. N▪ OTICE OF 1101 - 10:4.-11000 lioeo Cream —Dr. Bieniusto hienrreow 011ie day), to ask whether t ma of 4,11.101. bed beim Whited for the bulking of a chetah at Unix Kong. BRITISH INTERVENTION IN PORTUGAL. Mr. OSBORNE wished to know from the noble lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs whether the pro:owl whisk had appeared in the parsers of that morning, copied ben Om French papers, respecting a ehnventi.n between the roweeso meats of France, Spain, and Portugal, for an armed blew vention in the affairs of the last-named country, was to be looked upon as an authentic dock.ment ? Also, whether government were prepared to lay that document, if mad's tie, on the table ? Viscount PALMERSTON said that the protocol alluded to had, on a hasty FrusaL appeared to him to be a fair translation of the protocol which was actually sigted on Saturday week. There would be ao objection to laying the document on the table. Mr. OSBORNE asked whether the steam-veuel Geyser had sailed with ammunition generally for the service of the Mediterranean squadron, or sped illy for the reduction of Oport ? Clpt o ain BERKELEY.—The ammunition sent out in the Geyser wes foe the use of Sir W. Parker's squadron. Lord G. BENTINCK wished to hear from the noble lord { the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, whether he was prepared to rive to parliament a history . of the tranasetiaas which led to an armed intervention an the domestic affairs of Por tugal ? Also, whether he could state the nature of the solemn declaration made, in the «tune of last summer, by the Queen of Portugal to r people, the alleged inhection of which was the justifonstion put forward by the Portu guese people for rising in arms against the government ? The last question he wished to wh was, whether the insur gents, previously in lausession of the whole country, and encamped oppowto Lisbon, had been stopped there by the presence and interposition of a British and Spanish fleet Viscount PALMERSTON—I will lay en the table, with all possible expedition, papers setting forth the grounds as which government has deemed itself justified in taking whet 1 admit to be an exceptional course relative to the state of affairs in Portugal. I will also lay on the table papers bow ing on the transaction of last year to which the noble log has eluded. In answer to the lest question, I tan ask eq. that there is a British naval fora, with a Spanish the* sr two, in the Twos ; but no collision has taken place between them and the insurgent force on the south bank of that river, therefore my noble friend must inquire in another quarter as to what keeps that force from crossbar. My hen. Mari the member for Montrose has a notice relative to thin yew tion for the committee of sulply. I trust that, se It west likely will be late this evening before we get into supply, my hon. friend will postpone to a (ohm evening, when we shall be in possession of the rapers, a dismission which pro mises to be of so much magnitude and importance. Mr. HUME was wining that his motion should be pro ceeded with as the first lausness on Friday. Lord J. MANNERS had heard a report relative to a col lision between the British and insurgent furors in Pertural. He wished to know whether there was any truth in that report ? Viscount PALMERSTON had not received any infor mation en the subject. Mr. HUME wished to o`ntain from government a pre mise of discussion on Friday evening. If he did not that, he should take an opportunity of opening the q this evening. _ Lad J. R USSELL would be quite ready for discussion se soon as the papers were laid on the table, but could the pledge himself to any particular day. Mr. HUME should like to hear when the papers would be ready. Viscount PALMERSTON would promise that all possible expedition ahould be used, but the papers were important and voluminous, and would take some little time in prepare tion. He did not mean to overlay the question with docu ments, but the house could not coma to a fair conclusion without full information. Mr. HUME—The protocol would be sufficient for his Loed G. BENTINCIC wished that the declaration of the Queen of Portugal, in July last, to which be had alluded, ntaaccompany the paps nu. J. RUSSELL said that there ens no objection to lay the protocol on the table, but, when certain papers were waked for, be must say that the hoops could not come to a flit conehniou without Ivo:owing not only what had taken place between the Queen of Portugal and her subjects, but also what had taken piece between her Majeity and other pewee's. He slid not intend merely to give such papers as would suit the views of hon. member. (A laugh.) Mr. OSBORNE thought that his hon. friend the member for Meabou ought not to rest satisfied without a distinct understandiag that the subject was to come on early are Friday night. Mr. HUME said that whether the government produced the papers they had promised or not, he should certainly bring forward the question on Friday evening. Lord J. RUSSELL had no desire to shrink from the discussion. He merely wished the house to be in pasea 'on of such papers u would enable them to understaad the case. Mr. HUME had only to repeat that, documents or no documents, he should brill; forward the su'iject on Friday evening. Mr. OSBORNE gave notice that he should resist all mo tions in supply until the subject had been properly disowned. DOCKYARD APPOINTMENTS. In .Tt; Mr. WARD stated that lir. Wallace, recently appointed master shipwright in one of the dockyards, had received his appointment as the reward of upwards of BO years: faithful service in ► s►bordinate capacity . BUSINESS OF THE SESSION. Mr. DlVllTT;rOuldb;ii.atc7hear f oatlle noble lord at the head ell the government what he intended to do with the bilis easOlog on the paper for that evening. Lent J. RUSSELL said that, with respect to the bills aushered 2 sol 3on the paper the Registering of Births 441. (Ilasdull) Bill, and the Marriage (Scotland) Bill, be laillllllll4 to fix them for Monday next, when his Heals's+. tried the Led Advocate would state their general purport, sal Irvin dome so would not proceed further with thaadarisithe prePent elusion. (Hoar.) With respect to the iaboliselsea Couniude• am Bill, which Mood No. 14, it was to lb samisloa absolutely necessary that some amendment *Bahl Ishe plass in the composition of the ecclesiastical somoisisa, bat se the particular mode in which he sought to elasla that aoseelaesent had not met the approval of high authorities, he should postpone that measure also until next maks. The Railway Bill he poposed to take on Monday next, the debate on Portugal did not intervene, and en Tha= i h raL e reposed to proceed with the Radish Poor Law. Oa the 14th in.t. he proposed to take the Health et Timm He looked upon that bill as one at peat and although there was much alarms, of wee yet time to bring it to a posoporoso maga. "-- Sir R. INOLIS begged to ask the eight hiesenhle the Secretary of State for the Rea, Depolarise whoa was intended to be dons with the Dean of Mak in Tr* Exemption Bill ? It had absedy maid kr sena years as a continuance b 11. Sir G. GREY said be mooed, Upon* OD brie the bell read a 'mond time that enninir. The codas of the day mentioned by Lad .he Rumen were then severally read and postponed. NEW BISHOPRICS. _— . _ Mr. COLLETT(Tthlo;;);;Ce;l;lletierit was the inten tion of gevernment during the present session to introduce any WI creating additional bishops • and if se, whether they intended that such bishops should have seats in the House of Lords t_ _ I.oed J. RUSSELL said it was the intention of goventment to introduce in the other house of parliament a bill repeal ing that portion of meting acts by which the dioceses of St. Asapb and Bangor were united. (Hear, beer.) It wag likes visa intended to provide for the creation of a bishop of Man chester, but it was not intended that the number of bishops baying seats in the House of Lords should be increased, nor that the bishoprics should be provided for out of other than ecclesiastical funds. THE WELLINGTON STATUE. Mr. C. BERKELEY wished to know whether the noble teed at the bead oldie Wooda and Forests was yet in a con dition to answer the question of which he had given notice, "Milrthe Wellington Statue ? , RUSSELL, said that the committee for collecting s had declared that until the scaffolding was tilll b r= a down the statue could not be fully seen. He we. that that was now done, and on Thursday =lmpel to be prepared with an anst: to the hon. quatket. POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. Lord 3. RUSSELL, in sewing the oonsideratien of the Lew& einsmdments to the above bill, wished to recall the at. hentles of the char to what had occurred on the 24th July, WM whew Lord Dunfermline was Speaker. He hoped Het keep* that precedent in view, the right hon. gentle men in the chair would state to the house his opinion as to hew he thaw amendments interfered with the privileges of the Mete. The !WEARER bad no hesitation is 'nylon that the amendments made by the Lords to the Irish Poor Law Hill sad a, Landed Property (Ireland) Bill were infringements of dm of the Hume of Ommems. In the ewe of 08 English Poor Lsw Hill In lin sod is that of the Irish Poor Law Bill in 1838, in Ali ememlemeia of a similar character had been introduced by the Leeds, the House of Commons waived their privileges by entertaining and agree to those amendments, and it um for the house to deride whether in the present cam they should follow the same muse, or whether they should adhere to the practi ce whi c h prevailed previous to 183 t. He, however, knew of so pre cedent whatever where, in coy messare for authorising issue, out of the cooe,lidated fund, 'Utter by way of loan or witerwtes, the Suise or Lords hut introd•..tv:tt amend. astute for the purpose of diverting such advances from the purposes for which the Commons had voted them, or in say was altering th eir appropriation, the Hesse of Commons had entertained or agreid to such amendments. Such was not the principle of the amendments made by the Dods to the bills of 1834 and 1838, nor to the bills then under coo sideration. (Rear, hear. ) The order of the day for the consideration of the amend ments to the Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill having been read, Lord J. RUSSELL, after reading the opinion give by 1 Lard Dunfermline, in 1838, with which he said the view taken by the pprreessenwt Speaker perfectly accorded, observed thmt the gssetfsaa gse soaaideration were, first, whether the anetionestes leileadteed by their lordships in the present illai SIM WM& OW Wail principle of those case* in which the bran had ameeMel ft Wake its privileges ,• and se emly. ishildher, that being admitted, it was expedient that the MOM should follow that coon on the present occasion ? Time ewe in which thalami had so waived its privileges wen a heal taxation—not general taxation for any len of the Mate ; and in the last, the object of the amen ment was to divide the burden about to be imposed, according to certain districts, to be called electoral divisions. The object of the principal amendment in the present bill was of pre cisely the same character, and had entirely the seine mope ; that brine the ease. be did not think it advisable for the house to press the point of privilege against the amendment which their lordships had introduced. (Cheers.) This amendment proposed to maintain the electoral divisions for I the new burdens on the rate-payers in the same manner as under the present Irish poor-law. It contemplated no new provision, no increase of the burden imposed by the bill, nor and deviation from its objects; but the lords, admitting the ' objects, and agreeing that an increased burden should be laid upon Irish property for the relief of Irish 1 poverty, declared th at it should be laid on accord ' ing to the distinctions established by the existing act of parlinnient. (Hear, hear.) That being the view with which the amendment was proposed and carried in the other house, this was, he thought, a case in which the house would, I as Lord Dunfermline had said, weaken rather than strengthen its privileges, by refusing on the ground of pri vilegeto entertain it. (Hear, hear.) But it was another qui suon whether, on other grounds. it would be expedient to agree to that amendment. (Hear, hear.) They must consider in what state the Lords had returned this bill to the Commons. The measure was important and extensive in its nature. It extended relief, in the first place, to all the old, disabled, and infirm. whether in or out of the work house ; secondly it extended relief to the able-bodied poor within the workhouse, if there was room, and out of doors if there was not. In respect to these, the two great principles of the bill, the Lords had left it untouched, and had there fore agreed to the main objects of the measure. (Hear.) And with regard to the other amendment*, they were not such as were generally injurious to the main objects of the measure. They had heard of a clause for limiting the duration of the 1 act (or three years. Such a proviso would, in his opinion, have been moat injurious to the working of the law, and operated es • premium to agitation for the purpose of pre venting the re-enactment of the law, and so throwing off the burden at the end of the three years ; but they had not to deal with this point, for no such clause appeared in the bill. (Hear, hear.) There had been also a rumour of a clause for throwing the whole burden of the rate on the tenant instead of en the landlord and tenant, so it now was; but that rumour was without foundation, for no each clause appeared in the bill. (" H. sr," and • laugh.) With respect to the main features of the bill, therefore, he was happy to my it had come down unchanged, and he was prepared to look at the amendment lowhich he had before referred with differ ! nit feelings than he should have regarded it with, had it been accompanied by others which would have prejudiced the working of the measure. And though he still considered it would have been better to charge the rate up to Is. 3d. in the pound on the electoral division, and beyond that en the union at large, in order that too heavy a burden might not fall on the towns by the influx of paupers into them from the rural districts, he would not oppose this amendment. Besides, another clause had been introduced which in some measure counteracted its evil tendency. Their lordships had, instead of the 12th clause, introduced a proviso that no person should be deemed a resident in such electoral divi sion, unless for thirty months Cut of the previous three years he should have occupied some tenement within it. This provision would prevent persons in the neigh bourhood of towns turning out their poor tenants is the expectation that they would be immediately relieved in the town division. l'here was another clause he would allude to. As the bill paned that house, as many magis trates as there were elected guardians in each union were to be appointed by election amongst the magistrates themselves as ex officio guardians. The lords had altered this in so far as the election was concerned, and had provided that those magistrates who were rated highest to the poor-rate, to the number of the elected guardians, should be the ez offic:o guardians; but there was also another proviso, that if the highest rate-payer should happen to be non-resident, then his agent should be appointed. mi. he thought a most injurious provision, as giving en undue advantage to the non-resident proprietor ; and he could imagine that it would be grating to the feelings of a resident gentleman, rated perhaps at 1,000!. a year, to see a who was rated ['crimps at 2M1., take his place at the = because he happened to be the representative of a nonresi dent proprietor. He would naturally complain, that, while he resided on his property, attended to the duties of his station, bore its burdens, and was exposed to its fatigues and its dangers, a non-resident proprietor had an advantage over him, and, by a nominee or proxy, took his plate. (Hear, hear.) That was a proviso from which he should alk the house to dissent. (Hear, hear.) There were other amend ments, but they were mere matters of detail. Several of the verbal amendments were then read end agreed to. On the clause (11) for confining the rata to the electoral district being reed, Sir D. NORREYS moved that the original clause be re-in serted, on the ground that the effect of throwing the burden on the electoral division would be, to overwhelm the towns with paupers, and relieve the rural districts from a charge which they ought to bear, as having contributed most to the creation of pauperism. As the subsequent clause stood, it was not necessary that the pauper should have occupied a tenement for the 30 months, to entitle him to relief, which he admitted might, in tome degree, relieve the pressure; but it was sufficient if he usually slept in the district. Mr. CALLAOHAN seconded the motion. Mr. S. O'BRIEN said that the objections of the hon. baronet to the lords' amendment had already been answered, and he tendered his best thanks to the government for at once easedd#g to that aseendemat. it J. ***HAM said that M the throe as it originally stood be had given his most tweed lappet, esmeiving it to be just awl *hie, and the beet anangemest that could be made. Laded, so impotent bed the reernmeet menbleved it, that the Secretary of State for the Home Department bad declared that =lces some such arrangement were come to for preventing an overwhelming sad intolerable burden from falling cm the *Worst divisions *Neagh the medium of the hewn* the amaseee mast break down. Such being the view tithe rifflanuesat. they wenbLbare been fully jus ed by the preeedente rommasended by hewer by Lord Colebeeller, in the can of an 11•11111NINI V IM = had been altered by the Home of Leach; and by Lord Dm fermline, in the can of the Irish municipal and poor-law billa—in rejecting( the present measure in consequence of the alteration nude in this clause. But he did not advise that mom, biomes he speed ebb the noble lord that it would be met sehaeltote la the i s* circumstances of Ireland, if the memere, ingeetted h he felt it to be by that altwatim shoat* m he this session. (Hear, hear.) The twos wen ate of substantial grievance as affecting the owes ia Irelead„ to which, by the clearance system adopted by hearth is the rural districts, numbers of destitute per- ' sens flea* end would become chargeable on the eletheed Malice. Hoidee, the representatives of 1 the desks* divisions in the boards of guardians, would always be a mini mbserity, and the great majority ' would ham an Mewed is axing the electorkl divisions with the eherge of sminteining the poor. He greatly feared, thasefore, that this essendment of the lords maid prove Obaraty, and not seleteetial • that the towns would suffer by Is • bony grineamthat ihe anion minty rate maid be Opt done, while the eiselend divisions meld be heavily semi; ark woresnee, the*, so mare as they sat 11161., the burden et mainWeing Wm destitute poem who would be 1 Irst deem upon the brume of Ireland, would ultimately be 1 ermined to the gee** this country ; as, Wood, was at Cllthe ease in the towns of lose end Liverpool, i e b l e Weft of which places 160,012 moons had landed 1 hem Inland doe the limaise eammeed. (Hear, hear.) Than the thatheliset end pauppeima whisk had so much de graded the Ida peemet, math be extended to this country, atts ohs te ode of ft pee* and grievous a nature as w loin In s keg its active Interference of parlia ment le g m tingellire, depiered the alteration side by the Hems of leelik_but net being prepared to risk the los of the bill, he l est White Ohre he divided with the hon. beawast ; ho le& brrever, that at a future 11110/e mement, sheath brie sophism be verified, the mile r would not isolate le poem the clause as it Bleed. Si 0. GREY mid his opinion, rightly rammed the right hon. bum*, had not undergoese any modificatiaa, and I he hardly dilliNed in any respect from the right has. . tome Hest he thought the right hoe. baimmi had other mehmeled the clause substituted by the Mew 1 el Igrala ii ==•• puma will be eamidered resident is the he shall have resided within it SO media out et themeseding 36, instead of 12 made eat d', t i b l y4= u t i Haddes, there was another dime insetted; eto the Poor-law coutededeeme le revise the eiseesear srs divisions. He felt with the eiht bee. Memel and his noble Mend, that the importanes et - the bill was se preat, they mot net risk its las In the imam Mao she. upon that greed slam he meeseied le the lids' amentiment ; ad with this Mama ailky that if it meted as the right he. Monet antielpated, he alieuld, like lbw, lip for that amplithes milleillit rime the bill *pi be reamed to its °right* MM. (Hear, hear.) Mr. LEFROY supported the lards' aminthemat as more ' meileable, as well as mac beneficial. Mr ROBERT INGLIS mid that the opeeties they were asked le emeider was whether they would adept the lords' samminsais er lee the bal. If the bill was merely to be visited end net het, he should sty that theme amendments shall be rejoin, and a esnlimense with the lords de- 1 seeneled. The law, by • large isteewity, had carried the MU, and sent it up to the lords; what rams was there that they limii sow stultify their former p , and par what ens *totally different measure 1 It was admitted both by the eight hoe. baronet, the member he Denehseler, and the ARO bon. baronet the Ham atesessey that th is bill, as it stood, would work m ill Wit the hew ;Mali have to alter it at a more favourable mestmg. Mu* It was better in a cam of great practical dlistaltp te moss sow and endeavour to make the bill as ass* es they could than to risk its working ill in is preen* hem. end te come house in another eetsiou and SW that they had done wrong in the in assenting to the amendais u t e of the other house and call f e e e re p n e ee rlie m m ig e h e t t r te rm res ay ere this ti ran b d nl li t e e th e ug it o tena lit e it r w ete as t an e: al A te e rn ee ri- - tie. which Fad oft, horn adopted. Lord C. HAMILTON supported the proposition of the THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 1, L In the araeadmerlti althea he did WAVE w th e i 4M ara nniti .t on i. vied; aisepliftrits einended Wit* g Lord G. BENTUICK was at • Ices nd how the tendency of those amendments would be Mood. Ear lead with Irish enapers. He could age amesive what Moreno it wwM nuke if paupen were Mined by Mks in anima eledelal diehtione, for it would be _walk ei emergence% hedh le get rid of them. If he theirght that i that would be the tendency of the amendments he weed! resist them ; bet he thought that this country would be flooded with such paupers until they were employed or wese relieved by a system of colonisation. In his opiates the smaller the district over which the rating was spread, the grear would be the disposition to employ the people. His te idgkt hon. friend (Sir J. Graham) had not been so scrupu lous about the forms of the house in 11335, when they adopted the lords' amendments to a bill, by which all tinementa under 41. were subjected to rates, which they were not by the bill as it was sent up from this house. If, therefore, dry new rejected these amendments, the house would seem lor be nether capricious about its privileges. Sir H. W. BARRON thought the amendments went to reedy in some degree the evil of the large met of taxation witch now existed in Ireland. No English members would, incept those connected with towns, wish to see union r adapted in this country. The rating by Ire mmited the landbr from employing the poor ; and fora alien he had received, particularly from the county of Waterford, so great was the :.farm at the prospect of payee, ram, that the farmers were mostly prepering to emigrate. Mr. CURTEIS would support the motion of the hen. member for Mallow if he divided, and he would not receive the lords' amendments, nor did he believe they would dare to refuse to pass this bill. Mr. P. SCROPE was unwilling to risk the bill by reject ing the lords' amendments, and he thought the effect of • conference would only be to substitute the original clause for the present one, which was not much better, for both tended to keep up the rating by electoral divisions, and not by unions. The effect of this was to encourage the clearance of estates, and endeavour' to get rid of the population, and to cast the burden on the towns, which would only be halting places in the peerage of paupers to the British coast. At this moment the clearance system was going on to a fearful extent. ba Mayo whole villages were rased to the ground, and the =non hunted out. It was the same in the county of and at Skibbercen one Lindh-el set fire to • house le which was • sick tenant whom he wished to evict. (Cries , of " Name.") In Waterford, as he was informed by Dr. Fogarty, the parish priest of Lientore, 140 houses had been thrown down on the estate of a Mr. Usher. Mr. B. OSBORNE.—He has contradicted thet eti.tement Mr. P. SCROPE.—He stated it ::o the authority of the catholic clergyman. There hat been eviction. of at least 30 or 40 families, who lied been turned adrift while perishing from famine ono fever, and any ore sheltering them received notice to quit. They went therefore to the towns, which had to bear the burden. The original clause was not only neeemery as a protection to the towns of Ireland, but also for England. He held that the burden of pauperism should be borne upon the spot where it arises, and it was most unfair that the paupers of Ireland should be shifted in an underhand and knavish way upon the people of this country. (Hear, hear.) Mr. SHEIL said that as the member for the borough of Dunmire= he could not avoid expressing his regret that the house of lords should have thought fit to introduce this earoineut into the bill. He believed tho govern ment had been right in their original view, but at the IMO IMO be thought it meat desirable to avoid any eol iths with the other house, especially at • crisis of each =keen dlilleulty. However, to must enter hie protest against the amendment, fraught, as he was an. vinced it was, with evil. What was the existing fate of things in the towns of the county in which he rendeds Its Nenagh, the poor-rate amounted to 4e. 6d. in the pound, while, in the electoral division within 20 miles, it was only 2d. in the pound. In Thurles, the rates were enormous, while, within a few miles, they were only a few pews In the pound; and from this amendment, in the towns of Clonmel, Carrick-on-Stair, Thurles, Tipperary, Nenagh, Roecres, and Borrisokane, the worst results would Bow. He repeated, that the lords had made a signal mistake, awl that the people of Ireland would, early next session, cell far the r peal of the provisions of this clause. Mr. B. OSBORNE, as one of the constituents at Dun garvan of the right hon. gentleman who had just sat down, could bear his testimony to the accuracy of the eight hoe. gentleman's statement with reference to the con of that borough. But he was convinced that the govern ment looked upon this measure as a great and very question able experiment. nod he was satisfied that if this was not the expiring year of the existing parliament, the bill would never have been produced in its present shape. By this bill, the property of Ireland was mortgaged to the poverty of Ireland, and he felt certain that the mortgage creditor would soot walk in and foreclose. Oa a future occasion he should be prepared to support a measure which went nearer than the present to the establishment of • national &Teem of rating, but his object in now rising was to call the attention of the right hon. gentle man the secretary fur Ireland to the unjust mode of rating the leaseholders of mines in Ireland. Ualike the practice in Cornwall, where the rat* is levied solely on the lord or the proprietor of the mines, in Ireland it was levied upon the profits of the leaseholder, and the direct tendency of the eye. tem would be to throw mining Ispeculatione wholly out of Ireland. Now this was a subject which merited considera tion, for he could state that the Berehaven mines in the county of Cork had so far been able to give full employment, and from that district not one single person had been sent to the poor-house. With respect to this measure, the credit of it was due, not to the government, but to the boa. member for Stroud (Mr. P. Scrape), who deer hammering at this subject of a poor-law for Ireland en all occasions, had at last got a poor-law paned. But he must take upon himself to state that the accounts given by the hoc. member as to evictions were mere romances ; and when the hon. member told the house the statements fur nished to him by Dr. Fogarty, he ought at least to have read the public denials of those statements made in the newspapers by Mr. Usher. In the same way the charges brought by the hon. member on a former evening sealed Lord Berehaven were without foundation, as he believed the right hon. gentleman the Secretary for Ireland could show from letters addressed to him by that noble lord. Os the whole this bill would, he was convinced, prove a gnat and lamentable failure, and its revision would be loudly called for early in the next session of parliament. (Hear.) Mr. LABOUCHERE said, with regard to the presort state of the law in relation to the rating of mineral pawn* in Ireland, he had been in communication with away pr. ties, and, on the whole, it appeared to him that there was just cause of complaint with reference to the et the law. He thought the law ought to be en seeker footing, but the passing of the present Poorlaw Bill Ad net &Herd • meltable opportunity for effecting that obliist. with respect he Lord Berehaven, he had received a letter ken that sable lard denying the allegations made against him by the bene, wisher for Stroud. Lord Berehaven, in his letter, seated that he bad wholly applied the revenues of the Bantry and !Waimea estates to be expended among his tenantry, and that not one shilling had he himself taken, and on the whole it appeared to be clearly manifest that the noble lord had not only done his duty but had liberally ex erted himself to relieve the destitution of his poorer neigh bours. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the question now be fore the house, he thought the amendment made by the , Lord, would materially interfere with the good working of the measure ; but he thought the course recommended by his noble friend at the head of the government, and sup ported by his right hon. friend the Home Secretary, was the meat proper and dignified that could be pursued. Mr. P. SCROPE, in explanation, begged to state that the allegations ha bid ands with reference to Lord Berebsven had an lona hoed la ISM newspaper reports, but upon the comelotiottleeie of els igewtlemen resident in the district, one of whom was a Ilemen - catholie Sir B. HALL obesseed that the sore. member he Wycombe (Dlr. B. Osbeest) bad said that the stateminti made with respect to the evictions of tenants In biendi were all remises. Now, he held in his hand a return mato the other boon et parliament, showing that in the whit of Bethel', is the liseesiyef wly, Mayo, no lean then NO evictions had been with, and, supposing dye to compose es& no Um than 3,000 mewl bad been turned oat onen_the'valediL (Hear, hear.) la the seedem. nation widish lel been expressed of the Lords' Amen men he (Sir B. Hall)meet sestislly joined. This mesesilmimit had been carried by a meek sable lord, who hell a whir sinecure cites, by meth of which km Teethed :a geed deal of that wagdgee nisi which he wadi MR NNW to bi destitute hilow-esontireen. The *milker bed bee. hi. in another place, by the noble lord the Oemptreller of the Exchequer,who washed to limit the experimeat of oat.lser relief to a eer and a half. That noble hid held ogee welt the whip—his ssm lemon a owe Aria of 1,2114 per mom; sad, singe UM he hod lied eta then 63,4601. glebe rabbi messy. adds lord bed bath supported by eteseher Belle bed not nit 'Med sir dee, or theihsdbee et the toll the et his edge soil Wald , Mbar, inedible wide Led arm dew with the sespedgm thee, if the prine el eet-deer relief wee to be edge* he Amid =OW tot IlAy passe who tothethed now =able the p *of this bill, amid thr hen hi welt Nat Men) prepellism, if wadi Led to awl herseaft. am plezra t The egg iih has se ieti tzi he c t the made hat "41 deem2:21 UP et rieite . opsa vk the thmgat at b:4 " that th d e the hill as it steed. (Hear.) lbw of the noble lorda who bed supported the ailisiniedi ad not eldest to out deer relief in itselr, but only to the plum where it was glom They were not opposed to it in this seethey end, thirtieths. :z ioi st= their peepers to Limped. The iketieberieg having betoree an iambus an ask win thus dispend el. These things were act Is. girgildnas in their privets espeity ; the mayor of Wexford had eel.lasted a ealiscriptica, not for the relief (lithe poor of hi t owe erentg=to freight a plague-ship for Liverpool, with 250 wretches. But, thanks to the care of th e r i g ht M r . the Secretary of State for the Home Department, the yellow flag was bedded, a quarantine was established, and the plague was prevented spreading' in this country . (Hear.) Was not that a fact Sir H. W. BARRON—No. Sir H HALL rid the home secretary had admitted it, and it was capable of the strictest proof. But, taking the caps more generally, was it not a Eta, that hundreds and thousands of than poor wretches were now begging about the streets of every large town in England, who ought to have been supported by the Irish landlords at home Mr. I). CALLAGHAN—I don't be'ieve it. (Laughter.) Sir B. HALL said the hon. member would surely not deny the evidence of his owis senses. (Hear.) It was weless for Irish messabm to deny that the country had resources. Last year the sums collected in that country for the relief of the poor amounted to 435,001/. or only about 7d. in the pound. He doubted not that the annual rateable prope• t) in that country amounted to twenty millions ; and he was of opinion with Sir R. Routh, that with such That reecturees, so great an amount of desdhation ought not to exist. Let the property of Ireland support the lAA poor; for, with the continued drains made upon this country for that purpose, it was impossible that things could go on as they were. Much apprehension bad been expreaeed as to the working of this measure; and he doubted not that, in the next session of parliament loud complaints would be heard es to the impracticability of the measure. Should this be so, it would be the duty of the legislature to adopt stringent measures for making it work. (Hear.) He considered that the adoption of the amendment now before the house would be a great disad tavange ; and he hoped that in the next melon, goeernment would introduce some measure which should authorise the re-shipment of Irish paupers to their own country. Sir H. W. B•unox and Mr. D. CALLAGIIAN euh said a few words in explanation. Mr. F. FRENCH said the Irish representatives had a right to complain of the way in which they had been treated by the bon. members for Dorietihise end Stroud, and other hon. members; but they had every ground to be grateful for the conduct of the Euglisb people. (Hear.) Still he denied that England had done more than glee would have door, and had done, on former occasions, for her own people. Recol lecting that the measures of the English legislature had destroyed the linen end woollen trades of Ireland, and had thus reduced the country to beggary, this country ought not to upbraid them with btirg brp,gr re. (Hear.) Mr. J. STUART said it appeared to him that the hon. member for Marylebone (Str B. Ils11) had made a most surprising use of the liberty of weds poesessed by members of parliament. Ile had converted public matters into per sooal attacks on noble lords in the other house, possibly e kb • view to influence the London public and to affect the Totes of individual. , elsewhere. (Hear.) This he considered a gross saw,- of the privileges of the house. (" No.") If any hon. member thought otherwise, let him get up and avow it. The hon. baronet (Sir B. II*11) had distinctly pointed out two noble individuals, and had offered to support a moth's fur the repeal of en office held by one of those noble lords. Was it lair thou to hold out • bill of pains and penalties to restrain noble lords from declaring freely their sentiments ? Sir B. HALL wished to state what he had said. He had maid that be should be willing to support a motion for re stricting to • year and a half the tenure of office of that noble lord. - Mr. STUART then alluded to the hon. naronet's remark, on Lord Abinger, and asked if it was fair or proper to in dulge in mach attacks on absent men ? In the cue of the mayor of Wexford, had the hon. member made inquiry u to the facts, he would not have brought forward such • charge. Tho fact was, the people had embarked at Liver pool for America ; they were wrecked on the coast of Scot land and the subscription alluded to was for the purpose of sendirur beck there poor creatures to Liverpool, where they had paid their last money, and where they certainly had a riiht to relief. The hon. member then read a published state ment of the case which had been drown up in Liverpool, and circulated there, for the purpose of raising subscriptions for the unfortunate emigrants. Unless the hon. baronet (Sir B. Hall) could deny these faits, his case could sot be main tained. Sir B. HALL said his authority for the statement he bad made, was a petition from the clergy and inhabitanta of Liverpool, which was in the hands of every hon. member, and which he believed to be perfectly true. Mr. WATSON regretted that the hon. member who bad last spoken had not told the house whether ho should sup port or oppose the amendments introduced into the bin in the other house. The question now was, not as to the ship wrecked emigrants from Ireland, but whether the burden of rating •ao to be thrown on the towns; entirely, or be shared by the electoral districts. Hon. members had been charged with speaking to their constituent' : he wished to speak for ' his constituents, and to state, that the borough be repre sented (Kinsale) would be all but ruined by the operation of the bill as it stood. The poor-rote was now 2s. Gd. or 2a. 9d. in the pound, while, in the rural parts of the electoral division, it was only 2d. or 3d. In Kinsale there were upwards of 1,100 paupers in the workhouse, which was only calculated to accommodate 500. (Hear.) Within a few months, 60 or 70 second-class houses had become uninhabited ; and, owing to the refusal of many occupiers to pay the rates, the burden bad been mainly thrown on the owners of property. The clause limiting the amount of rate in the towns to 2a. 6d. was abeulutelv neceewy, if the towns were to be maintained at all. If the bill was left as it stood, they would be uttery depopulated. In the course of the present session he had presented several petitions showing the gross tyranny which was practised in the country districts in rcferenoe to the re lief of the poor; and he called upon the government to cause a serious investigation to be made into this subject Mr. 111'CARTfiY objected to the amendment being adopted, and said that there ought to be a conference with the lords on the subject. Not only the privileges of this house, but the peace of Ireland, were involsed in this ques tion. To make this measure work well, it ought to be framed so as to satisfy the minds of the Irish people. The house divided—For the motion SO Against it The amendmeuts were then agreed to up to clams 17, which way rejected. Sir R. FERGUSON proposed to omit such parts of clause ZS for the recovery of MU) disallowed which made the de rision of the auditor final. Mr. F. FRENCH also objected to the clause. Sir G. GREY supported the clause. After some discussion, the house divided. The numbers were—For the Lords' amendment Against it The amendment was then adopted. LANDED PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL. On the order of the day for the consideration of the Lords' amendments on this bill, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that some dile amendments of the Lords were decided improve ments, but that others interfered with the privilege of the Commons, and, therefore, could not be agreed to. These latter provided for the application of the funds to the erection of buildings not contemplated in the bill as sent up to the Lords. This was a provision which, even if acceded to, would be nugatory, seeing that the whole of the money (1,500,0001.) had been already applied for, for drainage. If there should be any balance left, the house might, next ses sion, consider whether the purview of the set might not be extended so as to include the erection of grist mills, and other useful agriculture/ buildings. Mr. F. FRENCH complained that the west, the most destitute portion of Ireland, was excluded from the advan tages of the bill. Lord G. BENTINCH contended that a wise policy would not strain too far the privileges of that house. In 1834, a precedent was established for relaxing for the public good their exclusive privilere as regarded money matters. He should move that the Lords' amendments to this bill be agreed to. Mr. LABOUCHERE must oppose the amendment. He trusted that the house would refuse is depart from the rule which had always guided its proceedings. He opposed the amendments solely on the ground of privilege, as he did not think the point involved of much importance one way or the other. - Mr. 14iWDEGATE thought this claim to privilege was based on • principle as narrow as he had ever heard of. He entirely dissented from the principle the right hen. gentle man had laid down. Mr. GOULBURN thought that by assenting to the Lords• amendments they would be establishing a most fatal pre cedent. After some further observations, the Lords' amendments were negatived. The Lords' amendments to clause 37 were also disagreed to. Of the remaining amendments some were agreed to and others disagreed to, and a committee was appointed to con fer with their lordships en the subject of the amendments. DESTITUTE POOR (IRELAND) : On the motion of the CHANCILLOE of the ZxCnECtUrat the house went into committee on this subject. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, having recapitulated the measures for the relief of the poor in Ireland, by means of relief works, die., and the advances already made for that IR; in the present session, stated that his object in the present committee was to pro pOse • further advance, way of loan, on the security of the rates, and on some future day it would be his duty to propose a still further sum in relief of those rates in order to make.prorision for the relief of the poor until the ensuing harem. Uud-r the Public Works Act, since August lass, 4,700,0001 had been advanced, but be was happy to say that ander the various measures since pared that system of relief was rapidly drawing to a close, and except is some 28 or 30 electoral divisions the new system, which had been substi tuted for it, bad beau brought into operation, and whisk by the co-operation elf the w li m el p r try and rate-payers actin fa M execution the ass to be answering the exposes tem Mold era. Me net mesa to my it was isaivemay pepsine la UMW ; bat that was se hat symOsm eselag that its eldest In some mama wee Se pat an end to that system of ahem which had Mamba the administration of relief by gable weeks. Great had been 'aperient** in withdraw., pumas ham them end it wee not till the mks be wanting the mabees on all the relief works by 10 pee mat. that soy in that eithibi respect was rob It was, however. fad that that measure had been secemil, mad to it was attributable the withdrawal be. theme weeks of that labour which was ssamary for cultivating the soil sad Sarin the laid. tlisee the. • heather Mos*m had been made, mod the remit bed been a very esasideraii" Madman. to the expenditure of the Board of Waft fa Imbed, ea asemit of these relief works. Par the week wlath Ikea it was 259,0001. For the elm pried VI Mg. 161,0001, eat it the hut to sok of whisk tuns —that Name the We of May—it bed ISM 0807 This radial all the indutge works and the relief rub of every derdiptir. The no exported on the relief aeries only bang sleet 40,0001., se • ralastice of .ore-gilts The new erten of relief wee fa mare.= in 1980 elesearal divisime. The number of posse' wasiviag Mime doily in the lot week was 2,243,000. Tam was reams te be- lieve that the expenditure had been wised odd& the lowest pseible limits under the present system sad the mated pains was taken to prevent waste. In a letter dated the 29th of May, Sir John Burgoyne said that there was • greet tendosey to keep down expenditure, mad that the ocosaillose were reddog ettli Deal era swum That effect had hoes predeut heat la the north mod the mei of Ireland. Wood ildieu, a roglitesto at Title,. said that the Miss orlon brought Itsee taxation more immediately te the bliiimers, and the. minds were sooner teepremad with the seinisehr that the had solved when they mast dire argioy ehe peeg7y or support them in tameas. There ha been toateroa. it pp peered, in which net only private piths. bot emayeW committees, bad 'tempted to extort mem Om was anew sassy. In one case a relief committee had applied fse 2,000 more re , loos than the whole popilatiss of the elestoraldis trict. ( Laughter.) Such eases, however, were exceptional;, 'gen, rully speaking, the relief appeared to be very fairly ad ministered. (Hear, bear.) The practice was te make grants when the rate exceeded a certain amount in the pound. From the last report of the commissioners, extend ing up to the 10th of May, it appeared that the sum actually advanced up to that time, on loan, was 77,0001., while the sum granted was 2,8591. ; since 'chi& period the whole of the 300,0001. voted in March had been placed to the credit of the treasurers of the finance committees in the different anions; and ap pl ications had been forwarded to the Trea sury for about 600,0001. more. The great security against lavish expenditure was, that loans were granted on the seets• rity of rates to be forthwith levied, saddle rate-payers them selves were thus interested in • proper administration of relief. In ono union, for example, that of Ballybar, through the interference of the ratepayers, 100 persons not justly entitled to relief had been struck off thc list. Much abuse had been prevented, and health had been greatly promoted by the distribution ef cooked instead of raw food. Guarded by the checks which he had mentioned, he believed the system in operation was producing the most beneficial effects at a much less expense than attended that by which it was preceded. (Hear, hear.) One of the most energetic persons employed by the British Association, in • letter dated the 25th of May, dated that in the Westport union, where so much distress had prevailed, out of 78,000 persons, 26,000 were receiving daily rotions, while the ant under the present system was only half that incurred under the pre vious one. 65,000 ratione of Indian meal, at 151. per ton, amounted, he said. to 2,2751., which by various contingen cies was sweiled to 2,5001. The'relief by means of the public works was 4,7001. or thereabouts, and the grants by the British sad other associations and by private charity raised the total amount to 5,0001. Besides being cheaper, however, raid the writer, the system was more effective, and this wee, in fact, its great recommenda tion; the country was daily meowing a more cheering esp.ct. The money how required was to be issued by instal ments, and the best estimate which he mild form was that 2,600,0001. would be the coat up to the harvest, one half to be raised by loan end the remainder by rate. The right hon. gentleman concluded by proposing a resolution fur granting 600,0001. on account of the loan fund fur the relict of destitute persons in Ireland. In repl to questions from Sir J. GUARAM , The C [ ANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the estimate requited to provide the necessary number of' rations between the 21th of May and 2dth September would be 2,6.51,0001. at 21d. per ration ; that the 4,700,0001. issued under the Relief Works Act of last session would be repaid in twenty half-yearly instalments; that the first instalment, to be presented (or next summer assizes, would be payable before the spring assizes of 1343; that the instalment fur the grand jury presentment of tact year, and the first instalment under the Public Work. Act of last year were payable at the summer anises ; the one about 11,0001., the other 24,000/. ; and that they had intimated to the commissioners that they were to inform the committees that the second instalment would not be issued until the rate was in progress of collection. Ho believed the rates were struck, or notice for striking them given, in all the unions concerned, but the government had no accounts to show that they were in ' course of being levied. Mr. AGLIONBY observed that the amount of money raised in this country fur the relief of Ireland. whether as I loan or gift, was becoming must frightful. (Hear. hear.) lie feared the government were not aware of the scene of confusion that was going on between the government officers and • large number of the relief committees, or of the abuses which rendered the relief small in proportion to the greatness of the amount adrancci. He suggested that they should not rely on printed reports, however high the authority (loin which thy emanated, but appoint a com mission or a committee through which they no , ght become intimately acquainted with the whole facts oldie ease. Mr. LABOUCIIERE called the house to witness if he had not repeatedly admitted that immense abuses must be the necessary concomitants of the extraordinary measures which had been adopted, and which had been demanded by an unparalleled state of things. By those measures they Last saved the lives of thousands, and considering the difficulty of the task that had been un dertaken—considering that at one time they were em ploying 730,000 tenons on the public works, he had no fear that the most searching inquiry would show that every effort had been made by the government I to introduce order and regularity, and to check abuses. It was so inspos•ible fur a government to feed a whole people, without many abuses occurring, as it was to employ them, particularly as they did not receive that local eo-operatien which might have been expected; although he could not agree in the sweeping condemnation which had been passed on the gentry of Ireland generally. In several instances they performed their du'y well, and made great pecuniary sacrifices. He had a return in his hand which showed that the voluntary subecriptions by the relief committees between the 25th of Match, 1846, and the Sib of August, amounted to 100,6001 ; and between September, 1846. and the 22nd of May, 1847, to 200,000/. Ile felt bound to make these re marks after the observations made by the hon. member for Cockermnnth. Mr. ikGLIONBY denied that he imputed blame to the government, or to the government °Mews. Mr. ROEBUCK said that the observation of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer had justified the expressions he (Mr, Roebuck) made use of in the early part of the session, that the government were traveling out of their legitimate func tions in attempting to feed a whole people. He wished cow to observe and to show to the house and the country how the interference of the government had reacted on the social condition of the people of England at large. The govern ment had undertaken to fed the people of Ireland on • dearer and better food than they had been accustomed to, and they had been unwittingly more lavish and leas econo mical than the people themselves would have been if they were able to maintain themselves. He believed that the government, and these in the employ of the government, were anxious to do their duty, but he was compelled to say that the morality, or rather the immorality, of the gentry of Ireland met them on every occasion. He did not mean to say this of each individual in each parti cular case, but that they were every day thwarted by interested person who sought to turn to their own individual advantage the unhappy condition of the people. by enabling them to grasp at the eleemosynary aid of the people of England, and of Ireland also. Th is was inherent an the system itself, and any attempt to feed the people would only foster the already not over-industrious habits of the people of Ireland, the already too little careful and too little strictly moral character of the Irish gentry, as it kad broken down and endangered the whole commercial prosperity of England. A more fearful attempt was never made by a government, or a more fearful rak run by any people. Sir J. GRAHAM explained the reason he put the question he did. Ile had no design of casting any blame on the government, but conridering the effect this effort had made on this country, it wee necessary to their position. He did not think the statement of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer a cheering one, and the expenditure wasvery large. Two millions two hundred thousand ra tions, at ltd. each, was 600,0001. a month, or 7,500,000/. a year, besides 4,700,0001. expended on public works. The sum expended on public works was not to be repaid for teeyears, but under the Relief Act the 600,0001. a month was to be repaid forthwith, and that out of the property of Ireland. This expenditure must go on till alter the har vest, and if rates were to be levied it was important that it should be commenced at once, and the Relief Act should be carried out. ----. Mr. ROEBUCK said that although there was a poor-law and poor rate in Ireland, yet gentlemen and men of property had openly misted the levying of those rates. He wished to ask if the government bad come to the determination that this class of defaulters should be compelled to pay, and if the law-offieen of the crown had received directions to carry the law into execution. Lord .1. RUSSELL raid that with regard to those eases where the rates were not collected, directions hid been given that the boards of guardians who did not order the payment of the rates should be dissolved, and other boards appointed. He would take this opportunity of referring again to the observations of the hon. and learned gentle man with regard to the system which the government had pursued, and which he said had failed, And also, with regard to his allegation, that they bad neglected to employ the poor. He would beg the house to consider what an ex case this was. It did not resemble the ease of tn En r = under a deficient harvest, nor was it like the cases of riots on the continent, where the supply of grain was less than usual, and the pnae higher ; but it was a case greatly aggra vated beyond this. It was the case of a people, four or five millions of whoM did not atheist on regular sago, but were dependent on the growth of the potato which they themselves cultivated, and four fifths or hire sixths of which had been lot. The state of society in Ireland did not afford any prompt remedy for suck a calamity. Society in Ireland pos sessed various elements of discord, and few elements of har mony. It wee not the granite rock with which they had to deal, but the loose sandstone which was the founds don of society in Ireland. The landlords and gentry had little hold on the attachment of the people, and the ministers of religion, who possessed the greatest esemsal ever the affections of their flecks, had little =l i r the medlars while differences in religion and be Mset Mass egoism class, sad man against rasa. The pee* were asemeemml of late pen to a great polished egileties, sal Mee assolsoied to attend great pub lie mallel hear aeithig speosisse, in which they were urged te gesslisel asses= he their own deliverance. It wee ea a peep* *at this ahem* had fallen. Is. stead of a anima embisedsa be meet it, there hal beta great apathy en die part et the boillsmis, and 'idiom!' the people had bees *Me sallieriags with • pelisses whisk was highly te be admired, yet ham a want et allmt sad mortic the ealemity had hoes doubl egpsestei. This wee sot • Mate settlings to whisk la um y ram* NMI be aggiled. It MI bun said Het Os Angle seem se base beasTell M dad *eh ewe way oat of the . oai that the pest gamily which had befalls thus wail teach them a pee{ Mesa to rely in futureless their ems mor tices ; lose his belief was that, eves with • poor law, the aisle of society in Ireland was eesh, that i=ara mission would have ensued detglit yte masat mortality would have oomurea—a sate et mph ibmise, and animosity would have ham created —elms egoism elms, and all classes against the Creagovernment of this country ; in short, such mode tion the affect that it would have been almost Wm sib** too have iresompseed society I. that ematay, same saw the lase eta kiss muss se ram He Mast aim ray that HeVida th• government had Sam Is swot the gad calamity were those width the utmost whirs mai have devised ; but this he @alerted, that they had Nola gesstly to alleviate the mdlothw of the pee* of that arembry. Looking at this Meileet 'Map he believed the gemesment had done wisely is as they \al a very large expenditure, rather the= balsa te ha into that oondition which he, for Ise, could sot bat etotemplato with horror. With remelt to the question put to him by the right hon. baronet omits (Sir J. Graham), be could only state that, in eases w boards of guardians refused to collect the Wes and to ahem their collection, those boards would be dissolved, Yd new ones appointed, and further, the gossraissait HAILS. would take can to make no further advances to meet h ere th e proprietors had the means an d a bili ty to meet the expenses properly chargeable upon than, l:nder these ea. emnstnnoes he hoped thist the committee would grant the swim ROM asked, not in the absolute confidence that there might not be some abuse, but with the assurance that the government would, by its officers, use every effort to avoid the same, in their endeavours to meet an unprecedented calamity, and that the legislature, while it excused errors committed, would support the general principles of the met , lures which had been adopted. (Hear, hear.) Sir D. NORREIrc Wished to know whether the peen, merit would undertake the completion of the unfrin.hed works that had been commenced under the Labour rate Aet. He firmly believed that with the best intentions the Revere. meat had erred from the commencement. They had be gun by making the districts too largo in which the relief Ina ef. forded; the consequence had been that no efficient serpent lion could take place. Hence had arisen all the reek. lessees' and abuse that had been complained of. Bat whatet er might have been pat errors, he could ea but think that the proemete of Ireland for the future were moat deplorable. It had been calculated that the rates to be levied in Ireland could amount to betwe en seven and eight millions ; end he san no possibility of the country being extricated from its difficulties. It was ' a id they were to employ the people ; how would they do that, when they should not be able to meet the rates ? If govern ment wished Ireland not to be • continual nom to this country, they . moot take a more extended nod stat esman . like view of its condition. They must get rid of entail, and of every check on the free one of properly in Ireland. le it. existing state, he feared the bill for the improvement of landed property would be near:y inoperative. Money m u g be spent on the country; it must be treated as g mine that bed not been worked for some time. Irish landlords had now come to such a state, that he must bring up his sons behind the counter. The Irish leedionli were burdened with debts handed down from their aecestoa, and they could not help themselree. Mr. ItOEBUCK thought the hon. barairet's speech WU a vindication of all th it lie (Mr. Roebuck) had mid with reference to Ireland during the present session. The vote was then agreed to, and the heave resumed. The house adjourned at a quarter to two o'clock. he fEgpreggs. The West Indio mails, 'Deluding those for Mexico, Honduras, mil the Ileranimli, will be mode up on the morningof the _'el June. The mails for British North Amnia, Bermuda, and Um WOW States, will be made up on the evening of the 3nl June. Th, cierrhurl wails for Gibraltar, Atoka, Gregor, the lonian Isla* Errpt, Aden, Ceylon, Innis, llorm-Kong, and China, via SOothialrAil, will be mule up on the morning of the In! June. The malls for the Brazils, the Rite! Plate, Monte Prim, Perua. booti e labia, Mn !elm nod Buenos Apes, will be made op on the lerenlog of the 4th June. The mail. for Vigo, Uporto, Lisbon, Madeira, Cadiz, and Gibreltet, will be made uu on the morning of the 7th June, The overland closed mile. Ma Merwalles, to the Mediterraneen. rem rerT e ofet. Aden. the ectiont th Jun% Ina* Mai kens, Sec., will be made up D a the is 7 The mails for New Month Waits, Van Diereen's Land, and Rev Zealand will be made up on the evening of the 30th June. TO CORILESPONDRNTS. • Ad•ertisemrnG Wended for Tke Arpin's, Landon evening IMP; SUM br at the Wake by Tim o'clock an the day of ',abb.:alien. MGM WATILIt AT LOXDON-BRIDGE. Tio DAT --11nrafte, 21 Ws. post 3; Allorms, 34 MM. MA 3. ro-Itoosow—blornins, 58 MIN. pet i ; Artsesom, 19 mm. past 4. LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNE 1. Ire the I louse of Lords, the Marquis of La estiowee, in answer to Lord Beoutal ton, replied that no con -1 vention had been obsoletely entered into, but a pro tocol had been signed by the ministers of England, France, Spain, and Portugal, with the view, if pos sible, of establishing in the latter country the consti tutional rights of the Queen and her people; and that no time would be lost in laying before parliammt the necessary documents illustrative of the course which it had been thought advisable to take for the attain ment of those objects. The question of naming the select committee on the petitions respecting the Bir mingham and Oxford Junction Railway Bill led to a discussion, when the motion, on a division, was carried by u majority of 7, the numbers being 29 to 22. The Army Service Bill, after a strong protest from the Marquis of Loe DON' YEAR V, was read a third time, and parsed. In the House of Commons the state of affairs in Portugal, as connected with British interference, was made the subject of conversation, arising out of ques tions put by Mr. B. OSBORNE and Lord Groats BENTINCK as to the production of various documents connected with the affairs of that country during the pest year and at the present juncture.—Lord PAL MERSTON expressed his willingness to produce all papers necessary for the elucidation of the comae which the government had thought it proper to adopt, and hoped Mr. I I USE would postpone his motion in reference to the subject, which promised to be one oleo much magnitude and importance, until the papers were in the possession of the house,without which it was im possible it could come to a fair and satisfactory con clusion.—Lord J. RUSSELL intimated that it was not only necessary that it should be known what had taken place between the Queen of Portugal and her subjects, but also what had taken place between her Majesty and other powers. He did not intend merely to give such papers as would suit the particular views of some honourable mem bers, but all that were necessary for the deliberation of parliament.—Mr. Hese said that documents, or no documents, he should bring the subject forward on Friday next —Lord J. RUSSELL intimated his inten tion of abandoning the Ecclesiastical COMMIII7IiOIIIIIII Bill until next session, and of proceeding with the Health of Towns Bill on Monday, the 14th inst., trusting there was vet time left to bring it to a pew perous conclusion in the present session. The noble lord, also, in answer to Mr. J. COLLETT, replied that it was intended to introduce a bill to repeal the act for uniting the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor, and to provide for the creation of a bishop of Manchester, but without adding to the episcopal bench in the House of Lords.—The SPEA X E.R, upon being called upon to give his opinion as to certain of the amend ments made by the Lords to the Poor Relief (Ire land) and the Landed Property (Ireland) Biller stated that they were direct infringements of the privileges of the House of Commons, as interfere% with money clauses.—Lord J. RUSSELL then etate . a the nature of the amendments, and assigned h is reasons why, sa regarded the Poor Relief (helium') Bill, be should not propose to the house to pram the point of privilege as against the amendments their lordships had adopted. There was one, however, of a different character, of which he should propose the omission, viz., the proviso which proposed to enact that when the highest rate-payer, who would be a member of a board of guardians ex officio, should happen to be non-resident, then that his agent should be appointed in his stead. This he thought a moot injurious provision, as giving an undue advantage to the non-resident proprietor, and which was eventually, on the motion of the noble lord, struck out of the bill.—After a discussion of some continuance, the other amendments were agreed to, on a division, by a majority of 04, the numbers being f3O to I 6.—Tho Lade amendments to the Landed Property (Ireland) BM, which interfered with the privilege of the Home . of Commons, were then considered, and on the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER disag reed to, a committee being appointed to confer with e Lords on the subject--In a committee of ways and means, a further sum of 600,000!. was voted on account of the loan fund, for the relief of destitution in Ireland. IT seems now irrevocable that the Anglo-American race will dominate over all the northern portion of the new continent. The Mexican empire can evi dently make no stand even against very small armies of the Americans, who are as superior in military skill and courage to their foes, as CORTFI. and his fol lowers were to the Incas and their armies. It is idle to accuse the Americans of rapacity and conquest. All young, and several even middle aged, nations are under the influence of that appetite. Nor can we expect the Anglo-Ameri cans to be exempt from those tendencies and those laws, which have actuated every race and state. Tyranny, bigotry, and ignorance presided over the development and colonisation of .Mexico ; freedom , toleration, and a fair portion of wisdom directed the peopling of the United States. Such differences of principle and conduct must predate their results to nations, as to men. And the result in this instance IS, the subjection of the Mexicau-Spaniards to the Anglo-Americana. It matters little what form that subjection may assume, whether it be sailed an alliance, like the name which Rome vouchsafed to several dependent dates, or whether the rule and subjugation be direct. The consequence to the balance of power, and to commercial intercourse will be much the same. From Panama to the St. Lawrence on the one side, to Van couver's 'Auld on the other, every pm.t and territory will be Anglo-American. England and Europe have waived any pretension they might once have enter tained of protecting the independence, and leaving open the trade, of Ilispano-America north of the isthmus.