The Express. — London, England, 1853-03-03 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF COMMONS.—WEDNISDAT, NiAltal 2. The Sreaaaa took the chair at 12 o'clock. Colooal ,Nlaule took the oaths and his seat oa his melte bon for Furls:shirt. PRIVATE BUSINESS. RI LL.. On the nrition tor the second reading of thisbill, Mr. HEADLAM opposed it on behalf of landed proprie tors, on the ground th►t their right to certain land was not recognised in the classes. lie mused that the bill be read ast coil time that day six months. Mr. W. PATTEN thought the bill ought to be read a second time. There was a question in dispute between the erosion and ()Wain landed proprietors as to the ownership of the laud; and, if that question wero not settled before the hill had passed through committee, the matter mast be ref, Trod to s court of law. Dir. T. PARKER supported the motion. Mr STKUTT said the question of title ant basing been decided, the hilt ought. in his opinion, to be referred to • committee. On behalf of th. Duchy of Lancaster he would undertake that, if the landowners succeeded in estah:ishing their legal rights, they would meet with no obstruction from the crown in exercising them. The amendment was then withdrawn, and the bill read a fecund time. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. JIWI• , 1 DIA AaILITIES.—By Mr. MOODY, from Mar• Mick, loot anhull, Bradford, and Heathfield ; Lord LEWISHAM, from Staffordshire ; Mr. M. SMITH, from Rect.., and churchwarden of North Ockenden, Eyes Mr. FItEWEN, from Barwaah, in Sussex, and Sapcote, in Leicestershire ; against the removal of. OPINING TER CEESTAL PALACE ON SUNDAYA.—By Sir E. FILMEIL from inhabibutty.f Sevenoaks, in Kent ; Mr. CHE F IHAM, from workmen in the paris h of Bury, South Laecashire ; Mr. PHINN, from 1,740 working men of Batik ; Lord LEWISIIAM, from workmen in the employ of Meson. Begneh and Suns engaged in dif ferent parishes in South Staffordshire, amuuntiog to 1,600 persons ; against. 1 1 4 11. VOOlll ORANT.—By Mr. M. SMITH, from Ton bridge-wells and neighbourhood in West Kent, against. J EA Ulf* A,. D CUNT ENTA.—By Mr. 51. SMITH, from Ton bridge- wells, and other places, against the intrigues of the Jesuits, and praying that the act of 10 Oeo. IV. esp. 7, for the suppression and final prohibition of such orders may be carrita into effset, end fur inquiry into convents and nun neries, and thsd they may be placed under inspection. P•KLIAMENTARY P•rsas.—By Mr. AGLIONDY, from the Meryport Mechanics' Institution, praying for a supply of. Lari Canatzsgs.—By Mr. MOODY, from letter-ear- Tiers at Chard, against restrictions upon gratuities TUE WATERFORD ELECTION PETITION. The select committee upon this petition was nominated. TILE HULL ELECTION PETITION. The SPEAKER. informed the hoses that he had that day received • letter from the agents for the petitioner widest the return for Hull, stating that it was not their intention to proceed with the petition. THE CAMBRIDGE ELECTION PETITION. Mr. V. SMITH moved that the evidence takes before the Cambridge elation committee be printed. Agreed to. UNION OF BENEFICES BILL. Mr. PREWBN moved the woad reading of this bill. Is introducing this bill he was actuated by • desire to pro mote church reform. In • bill whisk he proposed • year or two ago power was given, seder .retain restrictions, to unite livings of an essiesses value of 6001., in eases where there was an aggresses population of 1,500; hot, in the month of August - lost jest before the 'melon terminated, the restrictions were 11111111,1114 sod the matter was left entirely apse. A return ~nested to the house showed to what abase this 'henna& nail led ; in feet, nothing but the manias Oda bilnelt do esold prevent four or five small livings hem boas UMW MS of fire or six hundred • year, with sa • impaled= of 600. Such powers were saw leard a ra l tithie the last three years, and it was nesensay none limitation should be imposed to prevent furthest abase. The case of masters of colleges who had Ityleip at a distance from the university was peat liar, and of souse an exception must be made in their favour. There were nearly one hundred benefices for churches which had almost tumbled down from neglect; and he knew one ease in which 200 people paid 2001 a year to a clergyman whom they never saw. In such in stances steps should be taken to prevent the continuance of the abuse after the living became void. Besides re stricting the power of uniting benefices, be had inserted • clause with regard to private chapels, which he trusted would be assented to, Mr. 8. lIERBERT said the first enacting clause of this bill was in direct contradiction to that which the hon. gentleman introduced in 1850. He must say that this legislation on important subjects by taking isolated portions of them appeared to him extremely mis chievous; and he had to reproach himself with having contributed to create a most inconvenient confusion with respect to pluralities. (llear, hear.) The bill before the house militated against a project of the go vetnment, founded on the report of a commission which, under the presidency of the Earl of Shaftesbury, had sat to inquire into the whole subject of the union of parishes. (Hear, hear.) He would state what it was that the coin- Mission recommended. Is the City of London there existed S vast number of parishes, whose tarlatan had elatost en. tirely migrated. The city ehurchos were almost entirely deserted on Sunday. Whets the auras was last takes it was found that the numbers had diminished to 40,000, and had it been taken on 'Sunday he believed there would have been hardly soy population at all. (Laughter.) It was proposed that the Bishop of London should have power to smite several of these parishes, and that after peeper provi des had been made for the insunasat of the Cires united, the surplus IMAM be devoted to srpoess of clues is populous saborle. Whenever the easemwe wee twee& forward, it would be at the sasstime to parse the »peel of this bilk it to Ns into a law. The third ebbe of Ms MR appeared to Wm oat objectionable. It peeeided fhb is in in white me service was earthresedthe preemie ef dee bseelle shield seessellte lase there we =Heists to Mid a ohne& He midi say wehre shot the debts of petrels, ihr lee was sot use althea who heid ow* SON is very high "ideation Is seises, to ow* medieee-rQteer, hear)—but he met pre emie her peens hebebt is a sate of heathenism ler a somber times seedylesams they were set amen= m g ahem*. Ober, hear.) The_ *is he.. essibled by melee that the bill should be read • weed thee than der els imostbs. air R. INGLIS semi* the motion. After • few words item Mr. 711111 FIN, is explanation, Mr. SPOONER beememmiled the withdrawal of the metiers. LEEWEN said be Wald take the UM, member'. dyke. The motion was seeeldbily withdrawn. MAMMOTH, ADJOURNED DEBATE. 2'he seder of the day for tel the aftiesseed debate es Ms lialisibire imehesse te Mr. Speower's seeks Ote laVis h *Rho isedlessodevise s bees os Wei. welly Les s shoe aAb b Alcides. ut b tee law i tbe lset day to dim the quietism*. Neemdmet te he pat), Mobs hews read, Mr. ISADTHILD mid be ea** apposed a as erserallesee bat wilk the umaseetemdbj e = b emr tine dee whole sedielpie et raielese he esesidesai. bilidbethe seises army WOW, airesz : and all dim greeted theses seam. The sera be slime belied nes se a peonies tar sad tbe ollte Deaf er the Irish else* wee solve est sisamobie. of state mitiMisignei subson, INS as* te e lliPl aeft of the oessffsee. Thi et amOni est Wales, asmlleteg as Hwy 11,110asimeadee. hi set nein sus head* of the elite any is lay hos vbebear sal *tip MI It • peat *Wise Sat they wee had he the supped et my de. immebalime I and with 5,02 . 21 the Isms Nadi, (mei II we a ower dee wee hr their Uwe- Ile, thst be b *hell& te :be hes. bobber he Mara Wortie . Speosse), whoa be &bead sir mr_ 40* Whim ler desembedos of 'oblate* the missidtuet the peep* p r bso= eine amasime le 11.7smia , M en:) The Wei amber el *mall helmets. to iebbiblemest, webbed belle. Masses els yew ago. wee is Heetemd, Webs lisoliesd, sod lealom4 14,600 ; while the sea bee el emeawhemiot eingespeine wee in Beebe& sad Weise HAM mei is Sembed SAS ; while in braised the pophstioa wee, as rapoilod the atablideed ohm* sae esehomiste is %bo w ler** arsine er that (Hear.) the sesselses et that *wok bore reet=te s oslbe emossielep Is the *see mu lie mw tboa ear SOL The geodes= beim wee sot ef rasters truth or ewer, hes whether or set the state should give money ablesesesale hr reli gions purposes in say deasaiestbas? Mr. SCHOLIFIRLD—Oseeihriag the melba of his ben !lend ((I[r. h . = et • par Mapeask t son Sae V ke t te the ar t es eadeolb• sad is aid t s tir e f i l t t 11 lb deity Se move aa mil ebbe:r e al endow ments amid ea the re a =rdee mss he semo n g i s pease. He woo asked why he led set issisioll smarm is Wend, the espies essiss,ea the Ida *arch he hie emblem& ? Ina beard to misistoes money it 4111 set sem wads the eatogery of nosey rebind from the state, sod, with spa to the regime dooms he felt be wee set 'espouse te dal with it. Thar amends& an • was of the less in is meiontos. It was fee the VMS WM to lefts h h'ea'l er withdraw it ; for his . 7 , e le should .satins se be bell hitherto done, to rots the great when it was eekelthel. Thee, as to the when that suedes wee beim the boos he iambi lef dlill Aiely be hmierbsstrielse VIM not very disdain,' Thom those of the bee. emeaber ter Meath ; but he felt that that (like the Shen) wee a emotion with which the 'ab ject he bad brought nadir lbeweelou is lie amend ment ought net to be tramessiled. (Hoer, bear.) HS has. Steel the member hr Nee* Wsrwiebbirs ex posed p eat sWell to as rid ef the Plesseetk elidkelr• ink gni as es hie landansid, eared idea the mem of die eels. se be believed, the only just way in whisk ebbe lee dose. (Hear, hear.) His how. bind, sod One who soled with ids, believed that that awiewnest inalleilpies anwml da s if eo, let then re- CVO by the omens of the aid the state of sine ot *me Institutions Which the amendment refined te. (Hest, bowl Shwld they refuse to do so, it wield sot be extramslinary if the many should come to the igiadeliso that It were mareanxious for tis peat mar y_isterest of them titotioas than for the abolition of the liaynoeat endowment. (Hear, hear.) Colonel SISTHORP, as a firm supporter of the are taunt church, felt bound to uphold every institution which he conceived would tend to its benefit, therefore he could polemical Win into that hones ; but if they were baro net consent to the withdrawal of the. gnats to which the doted, he should certainly take every opportunity of vindi hon. gentleman who had just spoken alluded ; but with caring that which he believed to be true ' • but he begged to regard to the eissnooth grant, be li eving it bad been in say he had not the slightest wish to add to the ini every way perverted, he was fully justified in opposing it. moon which necessarily connected itself with the Mr. DUNLOP, as one of those who had unfortunately consideration of certain topics. He denied that May gene into the wrong lobby in the division, was lazious, in nooth was used for the education of priests who were order that that circumstance aightnot lead to any inisappre- to officiate in foreign countries, though he admitted that hension, to explain his views. (A laugh.) The mottos of the there was a great movement of the lAsh population to other bon. member fur North Warwickshire basing been de- -parts, and amongst those who left their country might be felted, he could have no hesitation, in declaring his opposi- some priests. tion to the Maynooth pant, to include with it those other Mr. PHINN deprecated these religious discussions. He poets to whic h the amendment refereed, though be should Could vote for this amendment, not became it fully base been quite ready to Dave voted against the Maynooth answered his sentiments, but because it was a step in the eadownient by itself. (Hear, hear.) On any future occa- right direction. Ile did not agree with the Norma , 'ion when the opportunity offered he should vote against (Demist doctrine enunciated by the hon. immabor for Shot that grant alone, considering that it stood on • very differ. field. He should vote for the propositima alio busses he lent footing to the others, and that its maintenance was a considered it a great boon to the established clunk bet he public sin and a national calamity, fraught with great trusted the government would see that unless these discus duster. That being his view, he could have no hesitation lions were to be renewed nom rear to year and a tone of 1 in responding to the appeal of the hon. member in sacrific- bitter acrimony was introduced into their debates, it was big, if necessary, the grants to all other denominations, in- absolutely necessary that some comprehensive measures eluding the state endowment of the Irish church, to get rid should be brought forward which would give tranquillity of that, and he hoped every nonconformist in the house t o the country. would be prepared to do the same. Mr. WHITESIDE said the hon. member for Dungarees 114. NAPIE It looked upon the Irish church as a peat ba d stated that the church of England was dying of bee ban and blessing to that country, and contended that its efforts would bear °caparison, and successfully, with those n ition. of the nonconformists. The property of the Irish church Mr. M'GUIRE observed that he did not 'state that. was its own, and while the members of that church did not Another hon. member stated it and he merely alluded to it. ilk that it should be supported out of the taxes of the Mr. 'WHITESIDE said there was nothing more unto,- aolatre, they could not consent to its being reduced to tunatc in that house, and nothing had led to more unfor o position of pauperism by depriving it of that which was tunate legislation than the unfounded assertions which Me owe. had beeti made as to the numerical superiority of Mr. HUME held that the property of the Irish church the Roman catholic, in Ireland. He maintained having been given by act of parliament for purposes of re- that the church of the Reformation, to which ligious instruction, it was competent to parliament to deal he belonged, was never in • greater state of with it. He had great doubts whether that establishment, prosperity than at the present moment. The hon. member which bad been instituted by our forefathers to promote for Meath was an Englishman who had transferred his ter religion, did not run counter to that object; arid those vices to Ireland. He should rejoice if all his Speeches were whoop duty it sous to uphold the church could hardly be as judicious as that he had made to-slay. But he remora said to have shown a good example as trustees for the ma- bored his speech on the hosting*, that he would never rest nagemcnt of property and the carrj ing out of an important till that accursed thing the established church in Ireland trust. The question brought forward by the hon. member was extirpated. He (Mr. Whiteside) had nothing to do for Birmingham was one of great importance—far too in- with the fasts and ceremonies of the Roman catholic priests, portant to be dealt with iu an amendment to • motion such but he wanted to know the exact nature of the relation that as that of the hon. gentleman opposite (Mr. Spooner). Ho existed between them and a foreign power, and whether had bad no hesitation in voting for the continuooce of the they did not hold doctrines totally incompatible with civil Maynooth endowment, which he 'loudest as an endowment government. The hoe. and learned gentleman thee read a fur educational purposes only, and which Sir Robert Peel quotation from a speech by the hon. member for Meath, in had established on its present footing for the purpose of which that hon. member contended that though Queen, promoting good feeling and allaying religious animosity in L o rds , and Commons, mi g ht peas a bill and call it a law, it Ireland. Whether the amount paid was larger than ne- was not a law till it had received the sanction of an Italian cesaary or not ho would not now express any opinion. He priest. They now had the hon. member for Meath face to would urge upon his hon. friend not to press his motion to face, and they must show him that it was one thing to ad a division in its present shape as an amendment, but dress the priests of Rome and the people from the hustings, to bring the quanta forward at a sub•equent and hold oat such doctrines as this, and that it was another period as a substantive motion. (Hear, hear.) What, thing to maintain them in the British House of Commons. however, ho had risen principally to say was, He did not want to inquire into the faith of that the hon. and learned gentleman opposite must not run the Roman catholic people. A better hearted pee away with the idea that ho was the purse bearer of the ple then the Roman catholic. of Ireland did not exist. church property in Ireland. Church property was public It was not a matter between them and the papistry, or the poperty, and wet in the hands of parliament to deal with Roman catholic priesthood. The hon. member (Mr. it if it thought fit. (Hear, hear.) Far his own part, he was Phinn) had hoped, indeed, that the time would come Inclined to think it might benefit religion and promote the when the contest between the two religions would cease ; general interest of the country, and especially contribute to but the quarrel bad begun at the Reformation, and he the good feeling in Ireland, if all public money for religious (Mr. Whiteside) was afraid it would continue so long as purposes were withdrawn. At present the quarrel appeared :be church of the Reformation should last. (llear.) He to him to be about the spoil, and not about the subject of had been told as much of Rome, and he could not doubt re l imon . It was we ll k nown th a t th e rev enue s of the cola- what he had heard from the highest authorities. (Hear, Wished church were 'maintained as a means of promoting hear.) He undentood that the most extreme doctrines the interests of particular families and not for the advance. that had ever been broached in Ireland had been laid went of religion. (" Hear, hear," and "Oh !") He down by Archbishop Cullen. According to his teaching, should be in a position to prove this in the committee which the Pope first gave himself universal jurisdiction, andthen bad hoes moved for by his hon. friend the member for claimed unlimited authority within that jurisdiction. A Muyiebese. If there were a sincere desire on the part of case in point had recently occurred. A very I d and the deny to promote religion they would be the fint to reform estimable Roman catholic clergyman had been appointed the abysm of the church, and to put an end to the system of vice-president of the Queen's College at Galway. The pluneles and absenteeism which now disgraced it. The Queen called upon . him to discharge his duties ; the Pope subject was one, however, which must be discussed gene- ordered him to resign his office. Whom did he obey? The rally, and in reference to the three kingdoms and the Pope. (Hear, hear.) Now he (Mr. Whiteside) wanted to colonies. They! was no ground, so far as he could see, why know the nature of the obligation that had impelled that the civil power should intorfere in favour of one creed more gentleman to act as he had done ? (Hear, beer.) Arch than another. (Hear, hear.) bishop Wilde was a well-known Ultramoatanist ; Captain BELLEW, while approving of the principle on and it was stated that no one from his large which the amendment was brought forward, had made up diocese could he admitted as a student into May his mind to vote against it; for he thought the endow- nooth College without his permission. It was also said ment for Roman catholic purposes in Ireland formed too that no one was allowed to enter the college ban the die prominent a part in these payments; and that, therefore, one of Dublin, without Dr. Cullen's written area. (Hear, the proposal was not one of full justice. hoar.) This, then, was • practical matter to be inquired Mr. STAPLETON had voted in favour of the motion of into; for here was a statement to the effect that no ate the member for North Warwickshire, 'neon the arguments could be admitted to the benefits of the Royal College which had been brought forward in support of it, but on without the permission of two well-known ultramontanists, the general principle. His difficulty in dealing with the who would of course see that only those profited by the amendment was that it went beyond endowments given to institution who held the same opinions as themselves. dissenters, and included those given to the established (Hear, bear.) The name of Sir Robt. Peel had been intro church of Scotland and to some extent those of England duced into this discussion ; and, indeed, his name was and Ireland also. He objected to that amendment, because always quoted whenever it was desired that members should in effect it drew distinctions between different descriptions not express their opinions, or should suppress their judg e( ecclesiastical revenue which he did not admit to exist. meet- (La ughter .) The committee to which Sir R. Poll Aad with regard to the grant to the church in th e West had silo td bad never reported; and for this plain reason, Indies, which it proposed to withdraw, though he believed they could not agree as to whether the Jesuits were the the right principle was to leave the colonies to the truism- ruling body in the college. There was certainly sufficient tiny system, be could not consent to a proposal that would evidence to laden' many persons to believe that such was affect one colon and one creed only. (Hoer, hear.) the ease; for the committee found a society within the Mr. MAGUIRE cold not admit that the protestant wall. of Maynooth celled " The Sodality of the Sacred church of Ireland was, as the hon. and learned member for Heart; " and it was thought that that was an offshoot from Dublin University had said, a great Mew to the country. the Jesuits from Rome. (Hear, hear.) Whe that ques- He believed that the mode in which the principles of that tion should come to be inquired into, he (Mr. Whiteside) chunk had been owed to be promoted in Mayo, Kerry, should be prepared to show from very able and distin end ether usiris d h e l m s . b e d wawa put nimble , h a d guishml Roman catholic writers , that when the Jesuits were ememeee see weft at society, eat d issuir d b o p sow banished from many of the countries in Swope, they set h en d tbe yes* jab lffeeeisis N A mollodlom s k i skid op a society which they called the Sodality of the Sacred it had largely i=owied the crime off Bleep-stealing . Heart. (iles:, hear.) Archbishop M'Hale was a professor Mond laughter.) The boa. and learned aentienaa (M r. at Maynootb, and he lied written a work against the lota loopier) h a d asser t e d that there were n o i n th e bibbed church. Now, that was against the statutes of the / r i s k church. Why, h e (Mr. M w ir e ) immerses parts i n college; but he excused himself on the ground that he was the diocese of Cloyne where there was only one protestant about to leave Ma nooth in order to become • bishop. parishioner, bet where the protestant clergyman received But he (Mr. Whiteside) held in hie hand • book by one of 175 f. a year. In New Rom and several other dioceses, the the present professors, in which the Irish ebarch was protestant., instead of being 1 in 4, were only in the pros poken of in terms which, if true, would be enough to jag portion of 1 to 100 or 200 of the rat of the population. To tify the hon. member opposite, who had inveighed against d e . th e revenues o f t h e established c h urc h in Ire - all establishments, in movin g for its utter extermination. shoullens dbe cut down, not 26, bet 70 per cont. The The work was by the Rev. Patrick Murray, the professor of Mynah Grant, as given by Sir Robert Peel, was but an Dogmatic Theology at Maynooth; and at page 860 he die instalmest of what was due to the embolic population of cussed the subject of the oaths taken by Rooms catholic th a t oo mo t ri . H e was in f avou r of the v o l un t ar y p r i nc ipl e , members of the house. That oath, he said, was to be de but woe whew it ro bb e d the ontbdis at th e b ene ot of t h e tennined by the application of casuistry and then he pre readent shemb. He wee no blest is religion, and was seeded to say :—" If a member of perliament eased veld men emend le the yeassegeg spirit evinc ed by th e against the church establishment, neither can he gen Taman trent as any proteelont, bat he felt bound to stand against it, fee thus too he would exercise his *meads' " against e ',wigs whisk he b e li e ved t o be ru i nous t o ulna. If he enumerates the reenetrous evils—M he de bts country. pieta the hideous iniquity of this abomination et dada- Mr. W. J. PDX laid the easallisent was that tint—if be orterreees or of omen in an moti'm 101 th e y s wag w ee der the dims of g oons mum w hi c h its quick or pednd rosional—be ii a perjurer. (Mee, were mg, by ea at Tboo woo di the &n th ° . hear . ) Aga's, the satins member swears not to use his pity eel me wanted, as a meatier of awes , when- tr e inkge to disturb or weans the preSseiant religion. lie rilir ogi ernel greats were beeught forward, de= h. **l se a Illotbor ... „,st Pahlows*e s ti e s • sin note wader as mach disowns se any Ma. ' say n niet be et emu he fts:: ;!!**. *did net seem te Wm that is this dinmelea w i ld bib ili r salt abiaelZ — and esatomilethos et the U My bad any Meeks to dismal dear SI pelniale at erne iliidat Viet IMMlthilegold adie to dna this =paint egiabilibed nth* ee win wen MIMI* ens% the vo- sal hissiabil. 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BALL odd he eseseived this was net the amens Ahos tbis it -sot be nodded** * 0 Id& *Paoli** en whiek they Amid Seems the melemiesdad mew- who boa annalist the lindunent Let bed bees dished, meals elf Mini At the come thee he might pent out set by mann Misery, but by the ended dLe lass t h lla di d net the miens seeding se t that he ibet ft woo* lis•hskils tholoodyes• Poisoid As he W net Mt tine was 1111 that WM Olei•COOI with as so Wtomtioasi istabikhrteti lt.s: 'Coma hod trim gee adeftend afteraftie be wag ; end of it in a way that be (Mr. teitee) would net have m aladies he age& de "as tea get hr giant when tared to lam den Wawa In Mr. O'Costasirs Life (vol. the whale at not unities and be ennead. He 1., P. 334.). he win ISPISIDSMid os eg that Me genius 'MU co % xaktie thee& she the time wee ears whoa thin whe dealt with did not 'lumber even sec IA A tit at *W eide Maid de se, astaa the weer and bigoted not* (Eifst hear.) .Tles no Ambit isi,* pwel etch ems pseeend r = e hid with refernee bsso Mimosa so ss *vs • They sold, left weibee mad et the great maw et ow* on *OW 7OS WM a* ems. Tin' WO the gee It bha het then who ps i bed lend meek neat the shank in reload ; but who:- emboli. MOM SO some Wad eon ben. Ilsadr esp er aims So ran that flossibst Its with tbi= He wee suns la seism the Isom mom i v : l r to meet atm. He wadi maw end be the Tuna Ida vets the Mae* hell Inia bow it made the pre. grea s• a nilesdity. whoa be we that his bane was tent iiir enteseibilamerida (Mo. bear.) Never would tied. He won nature to sell the Matti= of the lines bo Mon * ha* it analnold *mow the college of for one armee lo a !my fmkAd neaten The len. mom- Holm* Ism twilolni Vtiloos-______..) Hs_ Mrs_ _..tteLtb°,._ „t a° bee kr Harth Wratehin whoa he breaftt /reward his mug limbers et Ass sontwowsnow * I,,ro•°°" wusil seethe, reed es eaten ham an Mb in which it was victims to AIWA_ _on Ploswwww-. , As wished t hat and thee a genemem , while waken to state had the mem b ers St_ MI tIMUSIa_ wen es es prosperous an hewed she Imps. elf nen one whe knew him—the and happy SS Ine Net et their enow-countrymen- Rev. W. Ileamdb, MU Ma vetoed the borough et Carlow, But with upset te the penalty of his own church, it was that if he did nit vetoes he direeled , be nett go and be commuted by the peassisein of centuries ; and its security d— d. He we ._Aso —d to stow to the bane th at that was the Animating sotiols of the union. (Heat , hurl statement was a pose Mikados. He trusted that these Hs gesidemea had better consider well before they comt theological contscooles would ms In that hones ; but, if mined say agitation what would be the effect of inducing they were anathwit, rest they would be ecsdected in a an independent people to surrender: their national exis► differenteghlt, once on the anklee that the reformed dank should be Sir J. V. SHILLHI' said the hia. ember for Montrose maintained 1 end then as Ma as Shg lad **Mt *is bad reamed* that this anseadseen lilesidl be withdrawn, ends, to strike don that sketch. (unmet.) He speed He hug be weed not, as that weuld be acting unfairly with hon. gelidness tin wither tithes nor rent to these who meal spinet the miles ef the ben. member nor even bishop. cob a church, but the pa/4V/ he Made Wererkli with Edam. I. wises speech he teaching—OOteem) -- ond the church of Inland Nal hod might lay that be after beard asythiag awe horrible. Ho of even greater parity than the church in The believed that if the hon. member had A. opportunity he miserable delusion., and the vanished whisk would flay and meet every Roman Whelk he could Net had been wit in Zogloail MOW same es en gnat in held of. ( Chem and langhter.) He was anxious that &e Ireland- (CbossA) It 411. he essit be too mem to Was and the should understand his reasons for vote against thee atimeases of the establinment..(Cheers.) ty~eeathe His restive. were to deal even An bon • gentlemen had taunted them with their peasant all religiose, se had been se obletly staled wavers. • but what had been the conduct of the Roman by fie irs to insorber for Old. catholic..? Why, they had actually brought over to Ireland Mr. LOOM said he than act bees eleireded himself Mr. Wilberforce, and snide him secretary of their en the ellenden el the hen% bet he the enema which Defence Pao& (Hm!, beer.) Against ever posses beg been sad. to hint byes be& goadease a the o th er rich and said to be educated, who had joined age d the hew. He and be extremely unwilling to the Roman setholics, the Irish church could set • thousand dory thin peat gratitude was due from the Roman catho. of the peasantry; and if the matter were to be tested by Um te sway hagentians& ea the other aide of the house, Scripture, he could not supposethat a protestant nation Of who, will sewage, bed set themselves against many a protestart parliament would look with disfavour on did da s of this country, on the subject of the church because it had performed its highest duty and en- Moran greet- He emphatically admitted that ; and he cuted its divinest mission. (Cheers.) abee eileallesd that a considerable number of the liberal Mr. LUCAS rose to explain. The hon. gentleman had mealmatee the other side of the house, who were prepared attributed words to him which he had never uttered, to vote dm this amendment, would do so on grounds per- and sentiments which he had felt. With respect to featly hir ; an if the amendment adopted • More extensive the hon. gentleman's attack upon him, he only wished that reegsy hied' have his concurrence. Since the motion of it had been made when he was in a_position, by the forms of die member for North Warwickshire, ho had ex- the house, to harp ' , Plied to it. (tea.) mimed the division list, and he found that no fierjeant MURPHY regretted excee dingly , that after the yinthao 86 members representing liberal constitueneies, question of Maynooth had been dis of by the vote veiled for the motion, and of those 36 no less than one-third upon Mr. Spooner's motion, last W nesday, and after*. he believed, supported the voluntary principle, and were conciliatory speech of Mr. Phinn, the hon. gentleman oppo all state endowments whatever, which entitled site should have introduced into the discussion sub =l:d to say that the censure be pronounced against them extraneous matter, and so much matter calculated to pro les* week was not altogether unfounded. He quite agreed duce religious exacerbation. (Hear. hear.) The hon. gen with those gentlemen who deprecated the introduction of Ulnae (Mr. Spooner) had last year put upon the books at THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, MARCH 3, 1853. an esrly.period Otis* session, • notice for the repeal of the Morita* act: afterwards he substituted, as he said, from motives °Mimeo tad justice, a motion for enquiry ; and although be did apt dare to take a division upon that reso lution, hitt reds el won a mere question of adjournment, he now ems beim Chem, took everything for proved, and stated that an enquiry was not necessary. (Hear, hear.) The Ms. gentleman opposite (Mr. Whiteside) had taken an of introducing a parenthetic user of Sir Robt. en r. Tbe.t sneer was easily understood, coming from gentleness who had hunted down that most lamented statuman for opinions which they had since adopted, and mule warof in order to perform en act of the grommet po litical tergiversation. (Loud cheers.) The bon. membpr had alluded to Galway College ; but " those who lived in glasshouses should not throw stones." The late premier,when Secretary for Ireland, had established as a great national blessing &system of national education, the want of which had been severely felt ; but no fewer than 1,200 clergymen of the established church had refused to receive that sys tem. (Hear, hear.) Now the head of the Roman Catholic church had not gone so far as that. He bad not forbidden ROOM catholic children to attend; but be had thought it right so far to refuse his sanction to the plan as to forbid a Roman catholic dean to act as vice-president of the col lege. (Hear, hear.) It was said that the College of May nooth was an ultramontane establishment. Now he (Serjeant Murphy) might not be considered any authority on such a point ; but having been usociated the whole of his life with Roman catholic", he claimed to possess some information on the subject, and ho begged to tell hon. gen tlemen that the education at Mavnooth wa e not ultramon • tone, but but that which was known as Cis-Alpine. (Hear, hear.) When at the Revolution the doctors of the Sar bonne were compelled to disperse, themselves over Europe, two of the most eminent members of that university became professors at Maynooth, and from that time to this Cis-Alpine doctrines had always been taught there. Just in the same way, however, as every Romaa catholic priest was called a Jesuit, so, be supposed, every Roman catholic in Ireland was called an ultra-Montanist. (Hear, hear.) An hon. gentleman opposite pointed to the book from which the hon. member (Mr. Whiteside) had read an ex tract ; but as a Roman catholic he (the learned serjeant) was not answerable for that book—(hear, bear)—COT bad he, until he came into that house, ever so much as hea rd of St. , Thosnsus Aquinas's " Secundc's Secundos." He bad re ceived a good deal of information from the hon. member for Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner) ' • but, as Dr. Johnson told a lady who was complimenting him on having omitted all naughty words from his dictionary—. Madam, you would not have known that had you not been looking for them." (Roan of laughter.) It had been well said that they ought to judge of a system by its priests ; and they could appeal to the world whether any body of men could be found with so little of blemish upon their moral character—considering their numbers—as the Roman catholic clergy. (Loud cheers.) If he were to follow the example of hon. members opposite be might just as well ground an argument against the morality of the English clergy, because dini. pated and vicious men might he found at the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge. But that would be a very fal lacious and unjust mode of reasoning ; for be was glad, as a Roman catholic, to recognise many English clergymen whose characters were unimpeachable. (Cheers.) The only agreeable circumstance that could be discerned when famine was stalking over Ireland, was to see the Roman catholic, and the protestant clergyman and the presbyte rian minister vying with each other in the discharge of every kind and charitable office ; and sad indeed was it to see the good feeling which that mournful dispensation of providence had produced amongst them dissipated by such motions as that of the hon. member for Warwickshire. (Loud cheers.) The only new elements in that hon. gen tleman'a speech were the statements he bad read with re spect to the riotous mid violent proceedings, which he at tributed to the interference of the priests in Ireland, at the last election. Now as he (Serjeant Murphy) was him charged with owing his election to such interference, it would be obviously improper in him to make any minute statement on the subject until the matter should come be fore the authorised tribunal of a committee ; but he would tell the hon. gentleman this fact, which might perhaps startle him to hear. He begged to declare, in the most emphatic manner, that it was the priests who were behind the people, and not the people who were led on by the pried.. (Hear, and laughter.) He repeated that the ware dragged into the contest by the people. (Hear, And they would feel no wonder that the people were excited, when they recollected the proclamation which had emanated from the government within ten days of the general election ; and when they remembered too that in the town of Stockport there had been a promise of little Roman catholic female children, such as had taken place without interruption for nineteen years previous, carrying no banners or anything that could irritate the feelings of protestant', except that each child wore a small cross—a symbol he should hope that all christians might equally adept—and yet that two days afterwards the Roman catholic chapels in Stockport were torn dews, sad rifled, and the sacred elements thrown into the streets sad trodden wider foot. Four days after that her Majesty's ministers placed before the country a document called the Queen's Speech, in which having abandoned their old principle of protection, they were obliged to raise in this country the cry of pretestantism. (Hear, hear.) In the courts of justice too the Irish people bad seen the manner in which a Roman catholic clergyman had stood his trial ,• and they had heard the cheers of those who had lietened with kindness to everything that could tell against his. (Hear, hear.) They had seen even the .highest authority in the Court of Queen's Bench catching at the applause of the byestanders—(cheen)—and holding a paper in his hand at a distance from him as if he did not like it to mine-- "Betwixt the wind end his Debility," Exclaiming, ""Thank God, we have no inquisition!" (Cheers.) Since then, by-the-bye, they bad seen the court repairing what they had complained of. They had ap pealed from the Court of Queen's Beath drunk to the Court of Queen's Bench sober, and four judges had reversed the acts of one. (Cheers.) But when the people of Ireland had witnessed all these things, no wonder that they were excited. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gentleman opposite bad alluded to the converts to protestantism in Ireland; but he had overlooked what bad been taking place in England. When the hon. gentleman saw persons of high station in the universities, and persons gifted with the means of In vestigating the truth, doing so, and then thinking prow to join the Roman catholic religion, he might, as a lawyer, have understood, according to the legal maxim, that wit nesses, "non nwncrontar sod pondevantor," were to be reckoned, not by their nimbus, but b the weight which their evidence would carry. (Chum) Surely, a few of such converts proved far more them the greatest number of peasants tempted by famine, misery, and desolation to do wrong. (Hese, hear.) He could to the names of lush men as Doctor Newman a Meaning ; and he could well afford to make the hen. and learned gentleman a present of Dr. Aehilli. (Hear, hear.) With respect to the question of the Irish establishment, be must remind the house of what had lately fallen from IN English bishop and a Presbyterian nobleman, the heed if her Ifejsety's government, with reegeel to the .Camels clergy reserves. The Bishop of Oalard had said thee the principle of finality was het to be heard of la leghlatime. Well might it be observed, that it would be well for Inland if she could be skilled a *easeed WIN more westward, and be dealt with as a whey. (Hear, hear.) Would to Clod that she sonkl; and than she might have a chance ee being treated with jug*, sad mason MM. (Cheers.) The resalatisa before the hems related to endowments far religions purposes ; buf he denied that May nooth was sea an endowment. It was an endow ment far educational purposes, and did not stand ea the same footing as the region' donna. (Hear, hear.) It was the duty of the 'tau to educate the people, if they were not able to educate themselves ; and so long es the principle of toleration was maintained, and every sect was allowed to worship God according to its own wishes, it would be far better even as a matter of expedi ency, that the Roman catholic. should have an educated then that they should have an uneducated priesthood. If, then, they were unable to educate their clergy, the state NOS to mist them ; but if the burden of the establish -11111. Inn removed, the Roman catholic* would, probably, be elle Wln deWI. without coming to parliament for its *mist ime& ) fir. KISS , as the only Irish presbyterian in the house, and ilimerra to some extant the repreeentative; of 700,000 pesos,rested against the mamas they hail hoard re =iseadoawit. The regimen Amara, which ef on 1 a-year, smeared the customs of the pestd ll.lll given to the Irish presbyterians by Wm. ill., to mimpensate them, to some extent, for having been deprived, by the Act of Uniformity, of their Maar, of the *Me whist' they had previously held jointly with the elien of the established church. At the proper thee, however, he should be prepared to enter more fully litho the subject, and to defend the Irish presbyterians from the imputations which had been cud upon them. Mr. COGAN rose amidst loud (cries of • divide." The principle of (the hon. member's motion had his heartiest esasarrease ; but the resolution itself was open to the same Oittelisne es applied to that of Mr. Spooner. Mr. Spooner's seethe sehend to one Fs:lkeda: :grant, and the amend ment molly tee/ In a number of other grants for eccle siastical The has. =to t arguments went to the of repealing the lion Act ; for if his eats the Roma catholic re 'on were true, not not math to be endowed, but Roman itself ought not to be tolerated, because it un filled ma for civil societ. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Cogan) met express his heartfelt satisfaction that the hon. and .)sensed gentleman (Mr. Whiteside) was no longer a law same of the Crown ; for after the strong sentiments he had a:premed, it was clear that he was not qualified pre early Ito discharge the duties of such an office. (Hear, Um.) With respect to the motion, he should advise the hon. gentleman to withdraw it ; for the question must shortly come again before the house, and they would have to consider the whole subject of the Irish, and ultimately ol the English, church establishments. (Hear, hear.) Mr. J. O'BRIEN expressed his gratitude to Mr. Phinn for his conciliatory remarks, and his regret that they should have been followed by such a speech as that of Mr. White side. With respect to the statements which bad been made the other night relative to election riots in King's County, he had only to say that they were inconsistent with the facts. _(Hear, hear.) Mr. MUNTZ said be should support this motion, is he had supported the motion for withdrawing the great from Maynooth. It was said that it was invidious to with Maynooth. But they must begin somewhere, or they never would:get rid of these grants. What chance was there, he should like to know, of ever seeing these grants repealed if they were all to be assailed at once ? (Hear, hear.) It was only by attacking one that the whole would tumble down. (Hear, hear.) Sir J. FITZGERALD defended the conduct of the ca tholic dew during the last election in Ireland, and said that they had interfered only for the purpose of resisting the intimidation of the landlords. Mr. SPOONER, who rose amid load cries of "Divide!" said be would not occupy the house for more than a few momenta. (Rem, hear.) As different allusions had been made to him daring the debate, he trusted the house would indulge him for a short time. The hon. and learned member for Cork, said that be had Just two different notions on the paper with regard to Maynooth last year. B. appealed to they who had seats in the house in the hest scram of parliament, whether that was a correct re presentation. It was said that ho had made statements against the Roman catholic clergy with respect to their eenduct during the last election, and that these statements were made on the authority of papers which deserved no credit. Now the same statements were ma d e by different persons in various parts of Ireland, and was it - to be sup that there was a general conspiracy to put them forward. (Hear, hear.) If they were false, why did not the priests take steps to prosecute the parties who made them ? It was said by the hon. member for Meath, that Roman catholic were not bound to believe the quotations he bad made from Roman catholic authors. Well, but it was for them to show that these doctrines were not taught by the professors of Msynooth, which was supported by a grant of public money. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the motion on which they were about to divide, he would op pose that motion, because he had no objection to grants of public money for the teaching of religious truth, although he had a decided objection to grants for the support of the teaching of religions error. (Cries of " Divide.") The house divided, when there appeared— For Mr. Scholefield's motion Against it MUTINY BILL. This bill was read a mooed time. MARINE MUTINY BILL. This bill was read a second time. CLITHEROE WRIT. Mr. GASKELL moved that the Speaker do not issue his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown to make out a new writ for the electing of a Burgess to serve in this present par liament for the borough of Clitheroe until Monday the 11th day of April next. Ile had only to say that this pro position was made in accordance with the unanimous opi nion of the members of the committee. Mr. OOULBURN said he did not rise to oppose the motion, but merely to observe that a habit had lately grown up of moving for the suspension of writs where any kind of bribery had been proved. This was not only extremely unjust to the borough generally, which might be free front such bribery, but it would have the result of throwing a great deal of additional labour on the remaining members of the House of Commons. (Hear, hear.) He therefore thought that as little time as possible should be allowed to elapse between the report of the committee and the issuing of a new writ. (Hear, hear.) Sir K. INGLIS said that inconvenience would probably arise from having so many of them motions fixed for the Iltb. Sir G. GREY said that aa the motion of the hon. mem ber was founded on a special report, the house ought to accede to it ; but where there was no such special report, and where the cue wu not one for ulterior proceedings, he doubted if it would not be acting unconstitutionally to suspend the wilt for any considerable period of tune. (Hear, hear.) The motion was then agreed to. NORWICH PETITION. The following select committee was nominated on this petition :—Mr. T. Duncombe, Mr. Walpole, Mr. Drum mond, Mr. Rolt, and Mr. Hadfield. The house then adjourned at half-past L. NEW COMMITTEES APPOINTED. Yesterday, the General Committee of Elections met at 2 o'clock, and nominated the following members to serve on the following committees : GUILDPOIiD.—Lora Seymour (chairman), Right Hon. R. A. Christopher, Mr. R. B. Sheridan, and Hon. W. E. Duneombe. Ites.-13ir J. Pakington (chairman), Colonel Knox, Mr. Moncreiff, Mr. Tudway, and Mr. Cathay. HODDIMPIZLD.—Hon. Spencer Walpole (chairman), Mr. G. Tomlin, Mr. J. Macgregor, Mr. T. A. Mitchell, and Mr. West. PATll2.—Viseount &ahem paired against Mr. Scbole field's amendment with Mr. Milner Gibson, in favour. Mr. Peto paired for with Sir John Tyrrell against the resolution for the Removal of Disabilities of the Jews. THE LAMENT OF THE UNSEATED. (From Punch.) Do ion ask me why I whistle such a melancholy tune ? I'm a target for the jester; I'm a butt for the buffoon. When I contested Knaveston I was swindled out of bounds, And now I have to whistle for my live thousand pounds. How the money could have gone, I'm quite unable to con- ceive, . For the free and independent, as I verily believe, Polled for me from purest motive—to their credit which re dounds— But yet I have to whistle for my five thousand pounds. Lots of rough but honest fellows, I am told, my colours wore, Three hundred stalwart fighting men that staves and blud- geons bore ; And since I wu thus popular, my reason it confounds To think I have to whistle for my five thousand pounds. Every street on my behalf with bands of brazen music rang, Ballads to my praise and glory friends at every corner sang ; Easy triumph I expected from these very cheering sounds, And not to have to whistle for my 'five thousand pounds. Multitudes of boon companions with continual hooray, Sat from morn till evening, drinking my success from day to day At the Green Man, and the Dolphin, and the Sun, andiron and Hounds, Whereas I have to whistle for my five thousand pounds. The elutore mast among them have had a deal of money spe But I don't know where it came from, and I can't think how mine went: One signs the lawyer's cheque, of course, and questions ne'er propounds, And I have just to whistle for my Svc thousand pounds. For although I won the battle, the opponent whom I beat Petitioned ; and the consequence is, I have lost my seat, Of bribery and treating, by my agent, on the grounds ; And so am left to whistle for my five thousand pounds. EVENING CLASSES FOR YOUNG MEN. Yesterday a public meeting. in connection 'with this movement, was held at Willis's Rooms, King-street, 13t. James's ; the Earl of C•itrain.3 in the chair. • lase was read from the Bishop of London, expressing his sopa at being unable to attend the meeting and his oboe, Merest is the success of so beneileiel an object sa the silellenelinn of the young men of London. Letters of excuse cow SIP read from Lord R. Grosvenor, Lord John Memo, sad the Bishops of Winchester and St. Asaph. TM Climigull stated that the institution of evening abase dated hem the year 1848—a year, the mats of which presented a reameliablo contrast to the objects which this movement was ealentilleit to promote. In the brief am, doss that thim 7.4111/ young persons had attended 8114 ieme MA@ v ows browsliss of English and ecientille eimeatioa ; sod pram et molsowee had delivered 200 lec tures to numerous and gratlisd audiences. The instruc tion afforded had waileseed clause in writing, arithmetic, French, Latimeheethand, Hebrew, vocal music, Greek, single book-keeping sad double ent ry, Spanish, ornamental and architectural drawing, a Bible class, Ike. A religious spirit pervaded all the operations of the institu tion rather than a technical religions teaching; and al though it particularly directed itself to members of the na tional church, it refused no member of say denomination. Much as had been done enough had not been accomplished to remedy the evils and deficiencies which originated the design. It was true 7,000 or 8,000 had attended the classes, but what were they to the whole adult youth of enormous London ? It was no wonder that those con nected with the institute who saw those young men before them should have fuel added to the fire of their wishes, and kindle from their own friction. The noble lord then, with great eloquence, urged the necessity of using every means of bringing out the latent powers of the youth of this country, whose opportunities were infrequent for the development of their intellectual energies. He made en earnest appeal for pecuniary assistance to the committee, who had incurred a debt of 3001. He then re• ferred to the enormous temptation which was held out, in London, to the inexperienced youth who had perhaps just been removed from his parents care; and which, commenc ing in amusement, might lead him through every grade of dissipation to crime and its consequences ; and concluded by a most powerful appeal to the meeting, urging them to do all they could to aid one of the means of making man equal to the requirements of an age like the present. The meeting was then addressed by the Bishop of CM cheater, Lord Radstock, Rev. C. Mackenzie, Rev. Dr. Wil ion (Dean of the College of Preceptors), Rev. Mr. Jessop, the Earl of Harrowby, and several other clergymen and gentlemen. At a later hour the Bishop of London joined the meet tog, and delivered an address. He called attention to the connexion between this institution and the system of " early closing." Resolutions were agreed to acknowledging the divine blessing, as indicated by the success which has followed the efforts to promote the advancement of the young men of London by establishing evening classes, and which had been the means of forming a connecting link between the dif ferent orders of society, and which had been recognised by the clergy as an instrument of testifying their interest in the young men of their parishes. Votes of thanks were passed to the committee and gra tuitous lecturers for their exertions ; as was a resolution de claring the want of pecuniary assistance in order to forward the objects of the institution, and appealing to the support of the wealthier members of the national church. UNPOPULARITY OF THE EARL OF WESTMORE LAND.—A report, not traceable to any very authentic source, current in Paris, to the effect that a mob had assembled at Vienna anti broken the windows of the Eng lish ambassador. As this statement is not easily reconciled with the strictness of tho state of siege in Vienna, we give it as mere rumour. give expreols. TO CORRNSPOND/04T5. ♦ itailetalt Edition et " The Edema," easseutftli. mate etesbe s it Met pablialted wiry Tooday sad Friday Lttit, um e for post. leetualearats laleadad Air " The repeats," Leaden Etenia oust be at the (Mee.le, beavertastreet, b Tye o'Auck e ;spy day of pablkation. NIGH WATER ♦T LONDON BRIDGE. Tin 24.- ---Afterumn. .5 3 / 4 6 Tarcatow—lloraiss. 81.32 a.. Altierrea. 9.. ISE. LONDON. THURSDAY. MARCH 3. THE tenacious vitality of Doctors' Commune is well known, but we trust it is not too sanguine to hope that the venerable nuisance has at length re ceived its death blow. Never was there a more thorough exposure of abuse, or a more general ac. quiescence in the necessity of radical and sweeping change, than on Mr. COLLIER'S motion on Ecclesias tical Courts in the House of Commons on Tuesday. The law officers of the Crown made no attempt to extenuate the gravity or the accuracy of the impeach ment ; on the contrary, they admitted the whole of the charges brought tbrward as containing nothing Ibut truths so notorious and so well estab lished as to preclude all necessity for further inquiry. The only point of difficulty which they alleged to remain is the nature of the tribunals to which causes heretofore heard before the Ecclesiastical Courts are to be transferred, and with a view to the consideration of this point, Mr. COL LIER consented, at the request of Government, to suspend his motion until the report of the Divorce Committee, and the enlarged Chancery Commission should be before the House. This is so far well; and from the tone, both of the ATTORNEY and SOLICITOR GENERAL, there is every reason to infer that they aro sincere and earnest in their desire to pro- secute to its completion this great and neces sary work. But the vigilance of th9se in terested in it must not for a moment be allowed to slumber. It is no common task which they have in hand. The evil they seek to abate has hitherto successfully withstood attacks which would have proved fatal to any other form of constituted abuse. The most searching and repeated investigations—the most complete exposures—have as yet done nothing. Committees, reports, bills—all the enginery of the re formers have battered in vain against the outworks of this venerable mischief. Dr. lIIIILLTHORE sets up so plea of general justification. His ground merely is, " Be quite sure that the tribunals you propose to substitute, and the machinery you are about to intro. duce, shall be more satisfactory than that which you abolish." As the case for the delay seems now lie. dined to this single point, it may be as well to say a few words on it. Mr. CoLLIER's proposal, as we un derstand it, is to transfer the testamentary and matrimonial jurisdiction, now exercised by the Eecle. siastical tribunals, to the County Courts and the superior Courts of Common Law—to have, in con nexion with the County Courts, local offices for pro- bate and registry, and one general registration office, to which the original of all wills shall be transmitted, and where they may be properly preserved. The difficulty urged against the adoption of this scheme arises principally, we believe, from the fact that the Courts of Common Law, as at present constituted, have not full powers of giving a complete remedy in testamentary and divorce suits. This no doubt is so. In their present state Courts of Common Law can take no cognizance of trust property, nor enforce any duties on trustees ae such. In matrimonial causes, though they can ascertain the fact of adultery, they are impotent to give the relief of divorce, still less to pronounce the dissolution of the marriage tie. But because this is so now, must it necessarily always remain so? Would there be any insuperable difficulty in clothing the ordinary tribunals, for the purpose of trying will causes and divorce suits, with these powers which—owing to an arrangement peculiar t o thi s country, accidental in its origin, and mischievous in its effects—are now distributed among different tri bunals? There would be no such difficulty, and it is a source of considerable satisfaction to find that both the ATTORNEY and Souciree-Geiveittab seem to be agreed on the point that a consolidation of jurisdio tion must, sooner or later, be generally resorted to u the remedy for the evils which still beset our whole system of judicial administration. The elaborate report of 1832 contains in ample abundance all the requisite materials for legislation on the Ecclesiastical Courts. That report, though once reprinted and repeatedly referred to, has never been acted upon. Lord CRANWORTII intimated that in default of any speedy and positive recommends ' tie= by the present Chancery Commissioners, Go vernment might probably fall back on the report of 1832. A copy of that report is now before us. It may be as well to see how far the Commissioners of that day were prepared to go—no heady and rash innovators, be it remembered, but men of age, gravity, and eminent position, including the late Archbishop of CANTERBURY, CHARLES J.SMES of London, Lord TENTERDEN, the then Chief Justice of England, Sir NICHOLAS TINDAL, Chief of the Com mon Pleas, and Sir Sous Niellou, of the Arches and Prerogative Courts. The most timorous depre cator of hasty and ill-considered changes will admit that these names suggest nothing violent or revo lutionary, and yet, FO cogent was the forme of the evidence ;brought before them, so manifold and seems were the abuses disclosed, these eminently cautious and conservative personages to a report, which, though in many respects fa a C e g d short of the real exigencies of the case, in others contem plated an extent of change which resembled revolu don rather than reform. The first is order and importance of the Commis goners' recommendations is that which advises the entire abolition of the Peculiars and the Diocesan Courts of the Peculiars—there existed then (sad there exist still) about 300 in England and Wiles. The jurisdiction exercised by these courts is undefined by any general law ; in the majority of them there are neither judges, officers, ad locates or practitioners ; is it necessary to add that these are no safe places for the deposit or custody of wills ? Yet to these anomalous tribunals, every her subject resident within the local limits of their jails. diction, is compelled to resort in all matters over which they have cognisance, unless he goes through the troublesome and expensive process of suing out letters of request to enable him to prosecute his suit elsewhere. The Commissioners, after enumerating these and other reasons for the abolition of these courts, intimate that there aro plenty more which they need not urge, as they " are not aware of any one benefit which would result from their continu ance." This was in 1832. In 1853 the 300 Peculiars still exist—a reproach and a dishonour to a practical people and an enlightened age. With regard to the Diocesan, or Bishop's Courts, the report recommends their abolition on very similar grounds, adding as a further reason the ex treme hardship arising one of the absurd law regard ing bona notabilia,tby the operation of which probate or administration taken out in any given Diocesan Court is rendered null and void, on proof that the deceased at the time of his death possessed personal property to the extent of Si. in any other diocese. Having thus made short work with the inferior tribunals, the Commissioners recommend that all ecclesiastical jurisdiction should be vested in the two provincial courts of Canterbury and York. It is evi dent, indeed, on the face of the report, that some at least of their number were prepared to go further and to advocate the establishment of a single metro- Ipolitan jurisdiction for the whole of England and Vales. It is possible, however, that his Grace Of CANTERBURY was reluctant to strip hie brother metropolitan (who was not a member of the Commission) of the privileges and the patronage he had heretofore enjoyed ; but whatever the reason , the fact is so, that the report, as finally adopted, re commends the abolition of all courts Christian except the two provincial tribunals of Canterbury and York. Passing from the number of the courts to the nature of the causes which they are competent to entertain, the Commissioners divide their jurisdiction into the four branches of testamentary, matrimonial , spiritual proper (such as correction of clerks, a:e.), and criminal (such as brawling and defamation!". With regard to the first class of causes the report contain the important recommendations that probate shall be made final and conclusive evidence of title to real as well as to personal estate ; that the validity of all wills, whether disposing of real and personal estate, or either, should be determined by one mode of trial,