The Express. — London, England, 1852-01-10 00:00:00

,utt d from England en Friday afternoon, In tM I I .4 am, Sir, gnat oirodient servant, , & Husain Nati-sox. THU: I'ASSF:NISIF.RB LANDED AT fiREST. 1 • •• • tier, dated Brest, Jun. gives the par - th. - circumstances attending the rescue of the e:Espreas, and other haterestlas .. T h.. Dutch yew), Gertruida, Capt. Tonteler, entered d.„ naa ls he n• to-day, with VI shipwrecked persons, who a .m.,' front A terrible catastrophe, of which it is a miracle that they are not the The 'Loyal Mail Steam pt to the West Indies, with a mew of ii s";,,gi 110 men, and al passengers, caught fire at the entry w b e Ilay of Biscay, during the night of the 3d of Jenn y,• and di, r u viry short time the vessel was nothing but a a raing In the midst of the confusion mess sua .1 by the lthrts of the passengers to launch the boats, a great number of people hot their lives. Two only reached the Dutch ship, which has en,..1 h, cc. She picked up the first boat yesterday (mg al,y. the Ith of January), at halt-past six o'clock in th e vv. ring. and the second this morning at seven o'clock. It t• unhappily to he fearvil that thy captain and ofilce ,rs s hod -, wed first though UlLiiailing courage, have perished go!. damn. r "inn she blew up. • la the pr.., lice ut such • catastrophe, the British Vice (' rood on the al.. nee of Sir Anthony Perrier, the (AM. , ;‘ • I. , It t .::fed in l'aris by his duties as a member ,: lot• ruatioual Sanitary Commission) loot no time g , iseurae: to save the lives tat those who, according tae acuotiote gives by the pa: mowers who have • or. w. . 11,4 in the frier or Live other boats which e 5.e...1 limn the wreck, and which, from all arprITILTICC, oust 4111 II: .intaglio?: against the wave.. The 112.1 f L Lis pref. ut was. immediately applied to, and he at once a zii..l to give vv. ry amietanee, and the Souttl , Ur ,termer, %tilt h wa. in the hintuar. was intmediatu ly matered out. thiharet. the worthy captain of the Suufileur, r , ; anall for sea with • promptitude which does him great tr. Alt Ile will, however, have gnat ilithrralty in discover ers:. the pet cite position in *hash the nielaucholy accident ,pp. Led, for the information Risen by the crew and pas . 141,i1 reamed by the tlertrubla is vague and smartie. t atory that he mutt he guided • good deal by his own Ins teliig , oce and etreumstanc, 'ftw Souffleur, notwith rnandom the .-tl'ort. made to 11.14 , 4101 her, was not able to LAW the hamlet till nightfall ; but as there i. moonlight. it at be abbe to be of raciest service, and the seal of the c odain Se such as in.pire• great contioleme. • 1 he whole of the shipwrecked passengers and crew, who array , .1 by the Uertraida, have been brought ashore in boat., awl a more melancholy spectacle than they pre- Itlit.4l Maki not hr pictured. Among them are two ladies said at-bald; and their inafferimrs may be conceived from the tact that, besides all the other honor, they have gone thnoigh, they were eepoe.l to all tlw inclemency of the weather during nearly Iv hours. Anima in estate of nudity ; for a. the lire woke out after the passenger hail retired fur 4, night, and the raging element spread through the dc verest with do...haunt rapidity, they haul not time to aoyming, or 1 . %1 . ".1 to tin... Iniuicikately on the new 4 of the it arrival here, see.) al 1.05. s hastened to .coil them the elerhin, which obey si more wanted. 'l'lse family of tar Anthony Perrier also hurried to the aasistance of their canutrewomen, and, with their ordinary lions*. ad? . had the two Lights and their child removed to their E .1.. . wh, re the, are how receiving the care and attention ate,is thee so noueli require. brae of the ladies, Mrs. Er,„, n a i t r ea u nuan, t. severely burnt, 'but not to Cue astir..r of her life. During the whole of the period eft the alarm of fire and the time she left the ship, •,lung with maternal devotion to her child (a boy • r.".:-. n month. u 1.1), and, when so many others perished eraitrivi.l to the lift, of both. Iler husband, wht; •e• in the employment of the government at 14 in, a. who on board. She is still ipso too it hi. death, believing that he has ocaped in one cif the other hoots; but her companions in misfor tune declare that they think he was blown up in the rt. r win-n the magazine blew up. The other lady pas-eagle who hap et:rived here—Visa Anna Maria Smith— /one. Inou Dublin, and, I understand, was on her way to l'erm ltico. to joist a family in which she was to be govern... The male passengers are all comfortably lodged at an 11/1t,•1 here, by directions of the vice-consul. They air aho completely destitute, both of money and clothing. but have been amply provided with shoes, bats, and wear int apparel, by the vicaseonsul, who has also *reared anemia to nutty them with the least possible delay to Morlaia, whore they will be shipped for Lagland. I have only to .4.1, that the captain of the Genial& hr. acted with the most praiseworthy humanity. Ile not eft y plaars,l ft rythiog an board his Ltlllti at the disposal of our shipwrecked countram. n. hut had gone out of his track !, tarry them to the nears it harbour.- .1t the time of the poet leaving Brest on the tith. the Soub.•ur had not returned. The Courier chat/farm of the Bth ebearres that among the pa.•cagrn lost was M. de rsabcr, the legitimist who received the Dueht as of Berry .t the time of the insurrection in La VeroWe. Anotht r Trench gentleman, M. Fahvrier, is al.o among the miming, Oar Southampton correspondent writes as follow. Ihe line of the Amazon iv the all.absorhing topic here. Nothing else is scarcely spoken or thought of, nor is this rurprising, considering the dreadful nature of the caw- The. awl the anxiety and suffering it has caused amongst tle• numerous friends and relative* of the crew of the all fat. A telegraphic message was received yesterday set. Corms, of the names of the additionat persons whb were saved by a Dutch vessel and landed at Brest. The menage was sent to Mr. Rayner, the news-agent in this town. In • very short :pace of time the intelligence spread °vie the town, and Mr. itayner's shop was regularly besieged by p twin, eager to purchase a printed copy of the message. %hen the frightful news was communicated toMrs. Symons, the wife of the unfortunate captain of the Amami, the shock to her was must dreadful. •• Miss Brady. the sister of Lieutenant Brady, the Ad miralty 'runt. to whom the latter had always acted as a parent, has been almost insensible ever since the news was r,inintinicatril to her. I have spoken to the most eminent it.s..l no II iu the town, and they one and all declare that they Are by no means couvinced that all the boats went Sewn, AT/II that every one has perished Meade.. the 46 that hire already been found. Some others might have been ricked up. they think, by outward-going vessels, and that their esid. nee might nut come to light for some time yet. ••.% v.ry large crowd of persons eeiembled in the South areptint dock. this morning to witness the arrival of the 'levee ati.oner, in the hope tl. at she would have brought the craw and pasrengers of the Amazon who were landed a! bred. The following circular has been issued at Southampton : 'lnes of the Amazon.—Southampton, Jaeuary 9, 1102. e 7,—We are riatutsted by the mayor to solicit your att, i..lsore at a public meeting, to be held at the Guildhall, on Monday melt, at 12 o'clock, fur the purpose of adopting sash immures as may be deemed expedient for the relief of tile eider. and fatherlem children of the unfortunate 'af ire to by that awful calamity. Subscriptions will he most thinkfuliv received by the mayor and hon. secretaries, and tat bosky in the town.—We are, sir, your mast nt •-evant*, Joust Hs easy Coogsair, JOHN Lave, . cretariss." lee Royal West India Mail Packet Company have hewed the sulaceiption list with 100 guineas. Thomas Eisele. Eel., M.P., the deputy chairman of the company, has de, given 1119 guinea.. Captain Mangle., a managieg doctor of the company, and his Worship the Mayor of eoutleimptori„ have ale, subscribed liberally. Altogether, apw 4,1, of 100 f. have already been subeerilsed in South menet towards the relief of the sufferer' by the lose of the .tm,e,r. A I. tier +steel Plymouth, Friday, says The improper stew we of some tallow on board the unfortunate Amazon acw even as the came of the d-struction of that ill-fated r',p. The tallow was in casks, placed on bags on the coal, sail it is a.evroal that the tallow was so much heated by the esinne bres that it melted through the casks. on the bags modem], and thus modeled the whole easily ignitable. Ono of the ps.. Men, Mr. Allen, of the West Indies, was of> served peeing the deck with his hands in prayer, patiently waiting that irievjtalile fate tom which he knew there was So name A gentleman and lady, In their night demises only, both on tire, came on deck, and with their arms mend each other, walked over to one 5 1 tie• ship'. hatches, and fell together into the Manes. II strange barque, sera after leaving the Amazon, hid Imre,. down towards the life-boat, she could not have talon out the men, so tempirstams was the sea, sad the Pr ' , Astiry is. that when the crew of the life-boat thought the . ssolue answered them she was replying In the gig, the e. 00l which it now seems she hat saved. When the life r tiro mete mat the brig Marsden, she was thought pro. booly Irons her name, tubes Dutch ship, and Nerenk, one et die Am 0t.61,.s crew, hailed her in that language. Capt. las WI this ilt•OtatCd t* th, in, thinking they t'. .ht be towel, whereon Mr. Nrilann addremed him in sod in. Sliding they were shipwrecked mariners he an -randy received them on board, and tecatel them with ' , cry huisanity.“ Tier fdiegaw North British Mail says The ilestreetien of the Amazon has masted a painful (eche/ in this city, and great anxiety is manifested to the mutes of pameageer me hoard the ill-marred ship. It is leered that several parties connected with Gloagew bore loos doitroyed in this sad catastrophe. We have been able hurriedly to collect the names of the fol lowing individuals known or supposed to be on hoard: 14r. Ilavei Hamilton, cotton-yarn agent, 62, Ingrint stuct, and son of Mr. Hamilton, of Hamilton and Jack, Riontrnse-street, was one of the wronger', whom: name is let yet in the list of the saved. Mr. Hamilton was pro ti,ehnit to the West Indies on family busineel. Mr. and Mrs Winton were also passenger Me. Winton is Mbar t , rof the U. P. Church, Stirling, Jamaica, and is well known in filaruciw, where he labourtal for many years as a teeter in emnezion with Dr. King's congregation. lie is a naive of Greenock, and has been settled for 'I or 4 years 111 Jamaica as a Missionary. He returned on a visit to this t"aatry shout eight months ago, and was married shoot the beginning of November to Mr.. Winton, who, we learn, is a native of Dundee, but has resided for some tine. in Edinburgh. She was a member of Kr. Robertson's Newington, Edinburgh. Mr. Hick, of the this of Hick, Jones, and merchants, Demerara, is also L ii' vid to have been ■ passenger. Ile wrote to his corm " Pond, et. an this city on the lot that he was shout to !wo oed on heard the Amazon, This is the last account of line. Mr. Ikani It, of Trinidad, who was in this city • Mort time on, was also, we hear, on board the steamer; but we hag. been unable to gather any particulars respect ing SO. gentlemen." AMERICAN FIA EARMS.—Colonel Colt has received a , peci.ara of • model riAc and pistols, whi^h are an Mi. pr9rrosent on his original arms, and for which improve ments he is about to take oat patents In this coaatry. gbe Court. WINDSOR. JAN. O. I Tte following had the honour of dining with her 1 Majesty last evening , —The Count m oll Countess Walewaki, the Marquis of Lansdowne, the Duko of Newcastle, the Count and Countess Lavradio the Marquis and Mar chioness of Westmiuster. the Marquis and Marchioness of Clouricarde, the Earl Delawarr, the Earl and Counter of Sefton, Lady Emily De Burgh, and Lady Octavio Orcovenor. The band of the Royal Hone Guards attended in the 1 Cantle during dinner, and played the following selection: overture, .. sruederwesser'. it 40W geketboll4 .4 Maid of Meaux* Malts, "Prophetc" Ealing Vaket Tann tittadnlte, "Orenaita" Afterwards in tko evening her Majesty's private band was in attendance, and performed the Overture, .. Tel.." KAsionce, Airs de lielki, "I:Ent.nt ProdLue" Amber The Queen walked in the home-park and Slopes this morning. The Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, and younger members of the Royal Family took their usual pony and walking exercises. l'rinee Albeit went out shooting this morning, accompa nied by the Count Walewski, tho l)uke of Newcastle, the Marquis of l'lauricarde, the Earl of Sefton, and Earl bele warr, and attended by Col. F. 11. Seymour. The lion. Matilda Paget and the lion. Mary F. Seymour 1 hare relieved the lion. Restrict Byng and lion. Eleanor , Stanley as Maids of Honour in waiting to her 'Jlajesty. 1 A dramatic performance took place at the Castle this evening. A temporary slime had been erected for the aces -1 sion at one end of the Ruhens' room, and at the opposite pre extmity of the apartment w.lll placed a 4aut pas, support ing seats for her Majesty and Prince Albert and their illus trious visitors. The piece selected was Shakspere's comedy of .. Twelfth Night." and the parts were tilled according to the following progtamme : -- - . - -- Onto •,.Luke 41tIrets) hebserthr 0 pram rortlestan, brother to Vitra Mr. J. F. Catboat Art.-lair (r yes captain, ft tend to Setre.Uar) Mr. Myths. Roberto 0 .es captain. Irteutt to Viols) ..... Mr. V. Ouolor V.llistin " i Gortlenter at , en.lieg on the Poke I Mr. btaco bir * CL 1/4 "" d • Carl . y. Mr To Del b (ao ele to Oiirt,s) ~ Mr. Berney. Mr MAN." Apterheolt Maleolir (segment u.filivia) rabiall 1 Setrante t o Olivia) I Mr. James Vining. Clews I Mr. Marley V• tae ........... ...... ......... ........ Mr. mak.= rest Mier Mr. Paulo gessed Mom ..... Mr. My. Meta (a Mole-tante* Mira Murray VW lir love 'rib We 'MAO Mrs. Charier Kele. Meta (011.1.1's wises) Mr.. Keeley. Wrier Pros —Mira J. burl, Mire Pomeroy. Mire Mathis, and Mtro Hendrick. terme—A CM; he U.} ria, rot the Sea Cola ow It Obtradat . AMAMI Dtreeter Ptasitisr . • T.W. • The tbeAre mesa eel and the See MT painted by Mr. Thomas Grieve. At eight o'clock her Majesty the Queen and Prince Albert entered the Itithent' Itnom, ac,ornpanied by the elder Royal children and the Count and the COUIItCU Wa lowski, thn Count and the Countess Lammlio, the Marquis of Lansdowne, the Duke of N , weastle, the Marquis and Marehiune>t of Westminster, and Lady Uctacia Grosvenor, the Marquis and Marchioness of Clanricarde and Lady Emily Dc Burgh, the Earl I/elavrarr, and the Earl and Countess of Sefton, and th- ladies and gentlemen ir. at tendance. The performance immediately commenced. Iler Majesty's private band was in attendatve ir an ante room. Refreshments were served to the assembled com pany during the erenine, in one of the royal saloon.. The following had the honour of receiving invitations for the evening :—The Countess of Mansfield and two Ladies Murrty, the DirwaglT Viscountess Ashhrook, the Lady Emily Seymour, the Lady Caroline and Miss Barrington, the Lady Mary Berkeley, Colonel the Mon. C. 11. Phipps, Colonel the Hon. Charles and Mrs. Grey, Sir George and Lady Cooper, Miss Cooper, Mr. Cooper, Sir William and the Honaurable Lady Middleton, the Right Hon. Henry Labouchere, Major-Geeeral Reid, Colonel Bouverie (Com manding Odle., Royal horse Guards) and Mrs. Bouverie, Hon. J. 11. Dormer, Mr. Billington, Colonel Craufurd (Commanding Officer 2el Battalion Grenadier Guards), Lieutennnt Colonel Lewis, Capt. nom, The Rev. the Pea coat of Eton, and Hon. Mrs. Hodgson, the Rev. Frederick and lion. Mrs. Anson, Mrs. Crutchley, Mr. and Mrs. Cos, Miss Cos, Mr. 11. Con, and Mr. and Miss Greville. A deputation of merchants of Liverpool, consisting of the Mayor of Liverpool : Mr. Hugh Hornby, Deputy Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce; Mr. Charles Turner, Chair man of the Dock Committee; Mr. Francis Shand, Chair man of the West India Association ; Mr. Rankin, Chair man of the Shipowners Association; Mr. John Aikin, and Mr. Bauch, accompanied by Mr. Cardwell, the Member for Liverpool, bad an interview yesterday with Lord John Russell, at his official residence in Downing-street, upon the subject of the present Custom-house system. The Rev. Dr. Seaman and Mr. John Benwell Seaman bad an interview with the Right Hon. Sir George Grey yesterday at the Home-office. The Marquis d'Areglio, the Sardinian Minister, had an interview with Lord John Rumell yesterday. The Finance Committee of the Royal Commission for the Exhibition of 18.11 had a meeting yesterday at the Board of Trade. A deputation from the parishes of Poplar, St. Anne, Limehouse, and the hamlet of Mile-end Old Town, on the subject of the intended roads to Victoria-park from Beth nal-green, and Cambridge-heath, had an interview with Lord Seymour yesterday, at the Office of Public Works and Buildings. The deputation consisted of Edward Stock, Esq., local magistrate, Poplar; Mr. Samuel Tirmen and Mr. James Howley, churchwardens ; Mr. Edward Coleman, trustee, Poplar; Mr. C. C. Cecly, vestry clerk, Poplar; William Itenry Hawkins, Esq., and John George Ham mack, Esq, magistrates, Mile-end Old Town; Mr. Snow, Mr. Philpot, Mr. Sadgrove, town clerk; Thomas Henry i Block, Eui., local magistrate; Mr. Frederick Young, trustee of Limehouse ; Mr. William Nathan and Mr. James Barclay, churchwardens; and Mr. A. Norton, vestry clerk of Liinehouse. Mr. Miller, Commissary-General, had en interview with Earl Grey )isterilay at the Colonial-office. Mr. A. 13aillie had also an interview with the noble earl. Despatches were received at the Colonial-offiee yesterday from the Governors of the West Imdis Islands. Despatches were sent off yesterday to the Governors of the North Ame rican provinces. PARLIAMENT will, it is positively stated, meet for the despatch of business on tho 3rd of February. THE CONTEMPLATED MINISTERIAL CHANGES have, it is understood, been more difficult of arrangement than was anticipated. It is probable that no decision on the subject will be announced at present.—The Iferald, of this morning, however, says A con stant associate of the Marquis of Lansdowne said yesterday, without reserve or hesitation, that the marquis had resigned, and merely held office until his successor was appointed." SARNI ANN HILL— The Secretary of State has sent down a respite for a week for this woman. Mr. Milner, M.P., and Mr. Alderman Leeman, of York, came up to town T eeterday, and had an interview with the Home Secretary on the subject, and a Queen's messenger started last night with the respite. COMMERCIAL DOOM-LONDON AND BRIGHTON RAILWAY. A special general court of this empay was held yester day at the company's ogles in Ifeeshwa•street, which was attended by a very unusual number of proprietors, expect. jog to learn the intentions of the directors with regard to carrying out the art of parliament of last session for pur chasing the East County Dock to connect with their own, making new dock entrances fur the admh.sion of the greatly increased size of our commercial marine, as well as for forming a short railway toconneet this duck with the South- East end South Coast Railways, by which the various arti cles warehoused and stored therein might have easy, 3 .n u . iek, and cheap seem to that part of the king south of the Thames. The improvement would cut about 180,000!. Every resolution was carried accord ing to the report and recommendation of the directors pre viously circulated. The thanks of the proprietors were voted in a most cordial manner to the chairmen and di rectors. After this the yearly general court was held,when a report was presented, frum which it appeared that the wood business of the docks during the past year had been more extensive than at Any ;former period, Ilse tonnage of wood•laden ships entering the docks in Mil having been 180,114, against 130,160 tons in 18.50. Notwithstanding the reduction in the charges, the receipts fur duck dues had increased. The report adopted, and a dividend for the half-year of 2!. per amt., payable on and after the 26th inst., was agreed to unanimously. THE WENT INDIA NIAILB.—The following addi tional notice has been issued by the Postmasttr-General : " Mails for St. Thomas, Santa M a rtha, Carthagena, and Chantey, will be made up at this office on the evening of listarday, the lath inst., to be transmitted by the Avon, which vessel is appointed to sail from Southampton on the 11th, for the pas of conveying to England the homeward mails which in due course would have been brought by the Amason. Letters forwarded by the Avon will he liable to the usual ship letter rate of Bd. the half ounce, and so on. Newspapers for Mt.Thomsa will be chargeable with a rats of 2d. each, and newspapers for the other ports named with a late of Id. each. All letters, &e. intended to be scnt by the Avon must be specially addressed ' By private ship,' or ' B_y steems.packet Avon." THE ROYAL MAIL STEAM-PACKET COMPANY'S steamer Teviot, Captain Itivett, left Southampton yesterday with the Braxilian mails. Amongst her cargo was specie to the vase of about 135.00 W. Tnr. FUNKILAL OP TUE LATE LAMENTED BARON K ?Anal, President of the Hungarians, is to take place at Kensall.green Cemetery, to-morrow, Sunday, Jan. 11, at 3 o'clock. The relations and friends of the deceased raider, and all persons desirous of paying the last mournful tribute of respect to departed worth and excellence, are invited to join his countrymen in following hint to the tomb. The procession is to be formed and leave No 12, Fbley-pisee, at half-past 1 o'clock. A suitable address it to be delivered on the ground by Dr. 11. Roney, in tho Thangarian 'da l/fur' THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JANUARY, 10, 1852. Platt was lama( brag • wartime seism s for the purpose of combating his owa wurkin.m, and wilimairly, if possible, to destauy their trades union. Art ameelatie• of employers was farmed, and the fattening copy of a circular, containing the resolutions agreed upon at their first meeting, left no doubt as to their object:— " I beg to enclose you a copy of the resolutions passed at a neneial ineeting of engines rs, machinists, &c., at the Clarence Hotel, Manchester, De cember 9th, and to inform you that the next meeting will be held at the same place on Tuesday next, the 16th Decem ber, at 4 p.m., which you are requested to attend, and to bring with you a statement of the number of persons em ploy.M by you of all descriptions, together with your contri butions to the fund, as is expressed in the resolutions below. 1 am, yours very relpeetfully, Mouth Mouths, Secretary. 1. That this meeting, haying heard the statement of Messrs. !Ebben, Platt, and Sono, that their work-people intend to turn out on the 31st December, 18.51, unless all the men now working at planing machines, or tools of a similar character, arc discharged, end their places supplied by inechtnics bel onging to a trades' union, the undersigned have taken this statement into consideration, and pledge themselves, should such turn-out take place on this plea, either at the works of Messrs. Ilibbert, Platt, and :ions, or at these of any of the undersigned, to close their establish• mode, and not to re olden them until agreed upon by the vote of a general meeting, and then only with workpeople who have no connexion with such trades union.-2. That a guarantee fans, arising from a contribution of ten shil hugs for every person employed by each member of this as, eociation, be formed, to carryout the views and to defray the expeuees of the society, and deposited in the names of the ouninitteo or treasurer in Sir Benjamin Ileywood's bank, :Manchester, as a guarantee for the good faith of each mess her. And the committee see hereby empowered, in case way member fails to comply with these resolutions, to forfeit kb deposit, or such portion Os they may think fit, and their decision shall he final. The committee arc further sr powered to return the deposits, or any portion thereof, ea won as they may consider it expedient-3. That if any member of this association considers himself aggrieved by any encroachments of his workpeople ho is requested to Collimuuiratv a statement of them to the secretary, who shall call the committee together within a week from the receipt of such application,to receive the report and to decide whether it is a ease calling for the interference of the associetion.-1. That each member he requested to communicate to the secre tary, on Tuesday, Dec. 16, the number of persons in his em ployment, and to pay his proportion to the guarantee fund." New he (the speaker) begged to deny the assertion of Messrs. Ilibbert, Platt, and Sons, upon which that tint resolution was based—that it was ever the intention of the workpeoplo to turn out. Such a resolution had never been announced, nor was it ever the meaning of the society to adopt such a resolution. He would not now go into the question of overtime, and he would only say th,t, as they ltad nut had an aggregate meeting on p:ccework, he begged only to may here, that they did not object to piecework when based on just nrinciples. To prices arbitrarily fixed by the masters they did object, but nut to equitable ones agreed to by both parties. It wan iu consequence of the foul practices connected with the system of piecework that the men raised an objection to it. So bad was the system, that in one large firm in Man chester, not far from Canal-street, the men having worked eighteen mouths in a workshop without having a settling, were told by one of the junior partners they might think themselves well off if they gut their wages without a settling. Ile thought this showed it was not piece-work which they were repudiating, but task-work. THOMAS souTER reeemided the resolution, and it was agreed to without a diseentient voice. THOMAS NOHBUitY, another workman, moved the second resolution: "That inasmuch us our executive coun cil does not agree with strikes, nor the removal of lthouren from planing, slotting, shaping, and drilling machines, this meeting seriously consider the course of our employers in this present dispute unwarrantably oppoarl to just principles, inconsistent with truth and humanity. 'rho speaker re ferred to II letter, signed " Amiens," in the Times, in which it had been stated that the workmen of one firm iu Man chester refused to do a couple of hours' work to complete a machine fur a railway, fur which the employer was under heavy penalties. Ile said, as a sample of the falsehoods these writers uttered, this machine, which had been com pleted that evening, hail required, not 200, but 300, hours' wort to complete it. As an instance of the arbitrary way in which the prices of piecework was fixed, he said, in one Linn the overlooker exhibited a job to a workman, and asked the price; the answer was " las." It was shown to another man, who fixed it at 12s. Gals After this it was taken to a third man, who was told he must do it for 9.. Gel., or leave the place. 'the practice was to fix one of the quickest and most ingenious men upon work by the else, and estimate his time as the price for piecework, which was a system by which theordinary workmen would have no fair chance. If piecework was conducted on right principles the men would never object. So far from the society endeavouring to promote strikes, they had, in 1848-9, paid 36,0001. to their unemployed members rather than bring them in competition with the unskilled work men, and as far hack an 1812 they paid as much as 20,0001. with a similar vi,w. fRANCITWifiTELEY aLconded tho resolution, and it was adopted unanimously. Mr. SWINGLEIIURST moved a third resolution : " That in consequence of calumnious accusations having been made against the officers of the various trade societies, relative to their being paid demagogues, communist., idlers, &c., we repudiate such as wholly untrue and un called fur." This concluded the proceedings. Tux BRISTOL Won•stes.—The engineers of Bristol are not likely to follow the example which has been set in Lon don, Manchester, and elsewhere. At a meeting of the Bristol branch of the Amalgamated Society of Engineers and Mechanics, held at the club-room, Old Market-sireut, on Thursday evening, a long discussion took place upon the course to be pursued by the moo. The general feeling was that it was advisable to avoid a rupture between the men and their employe-s, if possble, many of them having been on mutual terms of good understanding for a long series of years, and the employers' rules in respect to over-time call ing fur very little interference on the part of the Amal gamated Society. In reference to the tirsm of Stothert, Slaughter, and Co., by whom the majority of the engineers, &c., in Bristol are employed, it was specially resolved, that Mr. Slaughter, having expressed himself of opinion that the practice of working over-time is injurious to the employer and the employed, he be requested to allow his workmen to continue working at the rate of six days per week until the trade differences are amicably adjusted, the decision arrived at by the employers of London to be taken as the standard. Yesterday (Friday) a notice was posted on the gates of Messrs. Stothert, Slaughter, and Co.'s factory, stating that as the workmen had expressed their unreserved satisfaction with the terms on which they were employed, there would lie no cesseion of business, unless any attempt was made to interfere with the management. ;GINEERS AND TIIEIR EMPLOYERS. THE CO-OPERATIVE SYSTEM. Yesterday troth ng transpired to change the rela tive posit i ons of the parties to this unfortunate dispute, wave the dinning of the establialinteut of Misers. Middleton and Co., engineers, Lomarestreet, Borough, by which about 100 men an thrown out of work, thus dissipating an idea, entertained by many of the operatives, that the omelets would, at the eleventh hour, withdraw their threat of closing their shops. A meeting was last evening held at the Sun Tavern, Blackheath-hill, called by the Greenwich Cii.operative Working Engineers' Association; Mr. Fyshwick in the chair. Mr. Musto, ono of the workmen connected with the establishment of Messrs. Easton and Amos, and Mr. W. Newton, were present. The object of the meeting was to consider the propriety of establishing additional work shops upon the co-operative principle—one shop basing been opened by the society about a fortnight ago, in which a number of men have since been employed. This shop, it was stated, owed its origin to the dispute now pending between the masters and the Amal gamated Society, the men being animated by a desire to guard against the inconvenieu,:ce and privations to which they might otherwise he exposed by the contemplate I clos ing of establishmeuts. Previous to last night the shares taken had been few, but the capital subscribed at the con clusion of the meeting amounted to WI., divided antonmt about 110 operatives. The satiety has already received orders to the arnouut of about 1601., and have given in ten ders for work to the amount of 2,101 M. It was agreed that the affairs !Mould be conducted by a massaging committee of five operatives, with power to purchase tools, erect work elite's, take orders, and perform all other necemary func tions. None but member,' of the Amalgamated Society are admissible as shareholders. ..... With respect to the workmen employed by Mown. Eas ton and AlOO4, forty of whom it was stated yesterday hail subscribed 2001. (or co-operative purposes, it is said that they were actuated in this proceeding by a desire to relieve the funds of the Amalgamated Society, upon which they world otherwise be dependent during the continuance of the strike. At a meeting held by them lust night, they came to a (urinal resolution to that effect. They have ob tained liberal promises of employment from firms and indi viduals, whose work they formerly executed while in the employ of Messrs. Easton and AMOS. The Society of Moulders, who wish to remain aloof from the Amalgamated Society of Engineers (unless compelled to join them in self-defence), yesterday issued 3 circular to their 62 branches, with u view to ascertain the number of their members who will be thrown out of employment by the closing of the engineering establishments throughout the country. The circular states that in London, 187 mem bers out ut 118 now employed will be thrown out of work in 16 firms, 108 being already idle. It is stated that toe strike will affect the Moulders Society more seriously in Lancashire than in the metropolitan districts. It numbers now about .500 members throughout the United Kiug dum, with a fund, however, of out Inure than some 3,00• W. In 1817 it amounted to upwards of 20,000/.; but from that time to the present it has gradually diminish...eh through the depression of trade, down to its present amount. The Loudon and Greenwich br.uiciles hare decided upon meeting weekly to receive the contributions of thus* in work, fur the support of those members likely to be dis charged. MEETING AT 11.4.NCIIESTER. On Thursday evening, the operatives engaged in the iron trades at Manchester held a great agere,rate meet ing in Cerpentere-hall, which was attended by upwards of 3,tele people, including society and nonanciety men. The branches represented were moulders, boiler-makers, smith., millwrights, and engineers. The chair was taken by Mr. TAYLOR. of ltochdale, formerly a workman in the trade, but now in indeeendent circumstances. Reporters were not admitted, but the secretary subse quently furnished the press with the following sketch of the proceedings. 'file CHAIRMAN briefly opened the meeting, hoping that all the speakers w0u1.4 abstain from harsh and personal expressions towards either masters or any other parties. Mr. lIF.MM, secretary to the Manchester branch of the Amalgamated Society of Operative Engineers and Machin ists, moved the first resolution, which was, " That we. the members of the iron trades in Manchester, after serious consideration, are of opinion that the resolutions issued by the amalgamated executive council for the discontinuance of overtime and pieceert rk are absolutely necessary; and therefore we pledge ourselves to do all in our power peace ably but firmly to effect the abolishment of those evils." Mr. Henna commenced by giving a sketch of the eociety's proceedings since the last meeting, which woo held on the 2nd of October. That meeting was held at Manchester, and pawed a resolution that systematic overtime should cease, as far as they were concerned, on the Ist Nov. 1851; that edelliam had taken the initiative, and had also passed a resolution to abolish systematic overtime on the 17th of October ; that Rochdale had in like manner passed a similar resolution, to take effect on the let Dee.; end that in fact, so far as Manchester was concerned, the great bulk of the trade had already given up overtime. Me. Ilemm next proceeded, as one of the deputation to Oldham when the dispute occurred between Messrs Ilibbert, l'latt, and Sons and their workmen, in May last to give a history of that proceeding. That dispute, he said, arose in cones quence of an individual named Michael Bernard, one of the oyericekers at the works, having, as alleged by the work men, tyrannised over those employed under him. On that occasion a meeting of the workmen was called at the Hall of Science, fur the purpose of considering the propriety of appointing a deputation to wait upon Mr. John Platt, the managing partner, to see if some arrangement could not he made to removethat grievance. A chairnsan having been ate pointed, the proceedings commenced by the workmen them selves giving a statement of their grievance,which was to this effect :—They said that Bernard, as foreman of the works, had engatred a number of men, such as wheelwrights, house joiners, &e., to do the work of skilled and able workmen, who were, in fact, allowed only to do teach portion of their business as required skill and was difficult of accomplish ment, such as planing, morticing, &c., whilst the other men were called in to take it up from that point and complete it. That this was port of is system of injury and anuiteanee against the skilled and higher paid workmen , and that arising out of it the second complaint of Messrs. Ilibbert, Platt, and Co.'s workmen was, that one of the man. awes had avowed his determination to carry on this system against the skilled workmen until he had re duced their wages below those of hand-loom weavers. They further told the meeting that for this purpose he had taken a quantity of the work usually dune by the skilled hands, and was instructing labourers to do the same work upon a new machine. (We understood that the manager was named Richardson.) A deputation was then appointed to lay these complaints before the firm of Meer*. Heiken, Platt, and Son, accompanied by a request that overtime shuuld be dispensed with. That deputation obtained an iuterview with Mr. Platt, who agreed that overtime should be done away with. He also sat the same time promised that the wheelwrights and irregular hands shuuld be dee charged—though he now denied it—end to give the matter further cousideration as regarded their complaints. The motion lay over for a week or two, and no steps having been taken by the firm to remove the gretinds of complaint, another meeting of all the workmen of Oldham, engaged in the iron trade, was called, and a reptest was made that Mr. Newton, of London, and hiinself (air. Ilemm, of Manchester), should be present, with the view of rendering the best services in their power as peacemakers between the masters and men. Ile would here take on opportunity once more to deny that they were there officially from the Amalgamated Society, and, as a proof of it, their expenses were paid solely by the Oldham puople. Mr. Newton and himself did attend the meeting. Resolutions were passed by the workmen there present re questing Mr. John Platt to remove Bernard from his posi tion. and also to the effect that complaints which had been previously made should be laid before him with regard to boring machine*. Mr. Newton himself, and other persons at that meeting, waited upon Mr. John I'latt, and laid these resolutions before him. After reading them over, Mr. Platt objected to portions of them : for instance, he wished not to discharge Bernard, and wanted to know what line of demarcation illiquid be drown to distinguish the work to be done by skilled workmen and tram who were unskilled. After considerable discussion, Mr. Platt wrote out three resolutions fur the deputation to present to the workmen, and requested them to use their best influence to allay the ill feeling of the men which had arisen out of these dis putes. Mr. I'latt said he was quite willing to meet the workmen's views by discharging the unskilled labourers, but there was a difficulty as to the time at which it should take place, and lie suggested that it should be postponed to Whitsuntide', 1852. The men had proposed that it should be done at once. The deputation suggested the propriety of meeting Mr. Platt hallway, and ultimately Christ mas, 1831, was adopted as the period on both sides. The resolutions were finally submitted to Mr. Platt, in the presence of his managers, and ho agreed to them, with a proves(' in the shape of a fourth resolution, by which it was determined that, in the event of other large firms in this district rot carrying out the same regulation. before the end of three years, the question should be open for re consideration. After such addition had been made, his own c:erks wrote out the resolutions, divided into six, stead of four parts, Mr. Platt, on behalf of the firm, signing one copy, and the deputation, on behalf of the men, another copy. In July Mr. Platt was found not to have acted upon the resolution with reference to Bernard, , and in that mouth the workmen called another meeting at Oldham, inviting Mr. Ilemat's atte,danee, as before, to consular what further steps should be Liken in the matter. A full statement of the whole affair was laid before the meeting, and it wax deviled that a. Mr. John Platt hail not carried out this portion of his agreement, he should again be requested to do so. This time the men declined to go beck to their work until Mr. Platt had completed his promise, and he removed Bernard from the premises, and sent him up with the machines Messrs. nib beet and Co. were placing in the Great Exhibition. Some time haring been lost by this turn out, Mr. Platt re quested that the workmen would continue to work over time for one month ; and he basing complied with their requi ate tan other points, they willingly consented to do so. At the expiration of that mouth he made a further re quest that they should work overtime for another month ; and to this they aloe agreed. At the end of thesceond month Mr. Platt made a r.quest for a further extension of over-time, but the men now became d 4 surti.fled, saying it was doubtful where such a system would end ; told they conmeted the Oldham committee, also requesting the ad vice of the Manchester Branch Society, who advised them to aec..l^ to the request, tabs^rvin7 by the cepiration of the is edit it was probaele a general trade regulatitea would be mail) for the discontinuance of overtime throughout the coun try . But while ileac men wcro thus aresaing _to the recisid of Mr. Platt, in all howdy of purpose, Mr. PROTEST OF THE BIRMINGHAM STEAM ENGINE MAKERS' SOCIETY. The Birmingham Journal of to-day says When wo stated last week that there was no apparent intention on the part of toe operatives employed in this branch of manu facturing industry in Birmingham to take part In the movement of the Amalgamated Society of Engineers, we were not unaware of the fact that here, as elsewhere, the proceedings of that body had excited much interest. The observation we then made applies to the present moment. There have not, we believe, bean any indications on the part of the engineers in this town or neighbourhood to join in the ileum& made upon the employers in Louden and Manchester, an far as the shops of Birmingham are con cerned. On the contrary, we are augured that a large and important body of operatives not only refuse to take any part in the proceedings of the Amalgamated Society, but are absolutely hostile to them. It may not he generally known that there are in existence two trade societies connected with engineering the one the Amalgumated Society, which consists of engineers, mill wrights, smiths and pattern - makers ; the other, the Steam-engine Makers' Society, which is rather more select in its membership. Of this last-named association, we have heard little in the controversy ; and yet it occupies an important position in the trade. It numbers between' 1,000 and 3,000 members, having branches in the principal engineering towns throughout the country; and come qu,ntly any i decision of such a body must have a consider able effect n influencing the settlement of the unhappy dispute between the employers and the employed. We ate informed that the members of this association in Bir mingham number about 100, and, including the neigh bouring district, not less then 500. This body have had the present position of the trade under consideration. They aro of opinion that the movement of the Amalga mated Society is not only uncalled for but unnecessary, and have determined to lend no countenance to their proceed ings in any way, directly or indirectly. The Birmingham branch have farther resolved to recommend the general committee of management, which is stationed at Man chester, to issue immer.iately a declaration to the employers throughout the country, explanatory of their position, and the determination at which they have arrived. We believe that in this decision Birmingham is not singular. The various branches of the association entertain similar views with regard to the present nisi', .rtunate proseeilinioi; and the centrist committee of management have cautioned mem bers against being led away by the representations of the Amalgamated Seciet3. They consider that to insist upon the demands made by that body would result in great injury to tha trade. Belgium and the United States aro no mean competitors ; an addition of 10 per ccut. on many im portant department* of machinery would throw England out of the market ; and the result would be either the total loos of these banisher of the trade, or • reduction In wages to an extent that would enable us to compete with the other maehine.making countries. It must not, however, be forgotten that there are many operatives connected with the Amalgamated Society in Bir mingham, and many who aro members of neither body. Numerically, they may be stronger than the members of the Engine Makers Society ; but, so far as we aro aware, they hare evinced no intention to insist upon a compliance with the demands made elsewhere. 11, however, they should do no, we aro informed that the employers are pre pared to follow the course adopted in Manchester and London, namely, to close their works. At the extensive I establishment at Suho, and at the London Works (Mciurs. Fox, Ilunderson, and Co.), we understand that notice has been given to the members of the Amalgamated Society to the effect that if they insist upon the demands made upon the employed elsewhere, their discharge is inevitable. We trust, however, that this determination will not be rendered necessary. If it should, great distress will be the result, inasmuch as those who are satisfied with the present posi tion of the trade—who are willing " rather to bear the ills they have than fly to others they know wit of "—wilt be in volved in the same unfortunate circumstances arising from the want of outploymeni, as those who woe really the Anti Mote of the quansl. CUSTOMS' REFORM. DEPUTATION FROM LIVERPOOL TO LORD JOHN RUSSELL. The deputation appointed at the recent Liverpool meeting to wait upon herd Juhn Russell, fur the purpose of couveyiog to him the representations of the mercantile community of that town upon the subject of the present Custom-house system, had an interview yesterday, at one o'clock, with his lordship. The recent accident to Mr. Horgan bad caused a delay in the reception of the deputa tion of a week, the second of this month having been the day originally fixed on by his lordship to receive the depu tation. The deputation consisted of the Mayor of Liverpool ; Mr. C. Turner, chairman of the 'Dock Company; Mr. H. Hornby, vice-president of the Chamber of Commerce ; Mr. F. Shand, chairman of the West India Association; Mr. R. Rankin, chairman of the Shipowners' Association ; Mr. J. Aikin, and Mr. J. Hooch. Mr. CARDWELL. M.l'., introduced the deputation, and the gentlemen who addressed his lordship were Mr. llonsuiv, Mr. TURNEII, and Mr. SHAND, each gentleman being very brief in his observations. Mr. HORNBY said that the deputation had no wish to enter into all the details of the subject, believing that the present was not the fitting occasion for doing so ; and with regard to the general question brevity would be most con sister.t. Ilia lordship hail already heard the main features alluded to by similar deputations on the same subject, and the present deputation was to be considered delegated for the purpose of preferring complaints of special local evils. lle could assure his lordship that there existed an universal conviction amongst all mercantile men that the present Custom-house system was seriously defective, occasioning individual annoyance, without any benefit whatever to the general trade or to the public interest. This was the almost unanimous and decided belief amongst the merchants of Liverpool. The merchants of Liverpool, how ever, did not merely ask what the merchants of London asked for. In Liverpool a certain feeling had sprung up averse to generalisation in regard to Custom-house organisa tion. The merchants of Liverpool, therefore, might not urge a general reform, but a particular and special reform, and this reform to consist of the institution of a local board of customs in Liverpool, which could be adapted to dealing without delay with the local matters in regard to trade as they might arise. This was the sum and substance of the object of the deputation, and of all whom they represented. They did not, however, look for immediate legislation on this subject ; the deputation merely ventured to suggest to his lordship the expediency of obtaining the re-appointment of the customs committee of last session. The various causes which had retarded a conclusive report from that committee could not operate, and the community at large would look with confidence to the fluid report of a parliamentary committee. Mr. SHAND and Mr. TORNRR then addressed the Pre mier, Mr. Shand dwelling specially on the urgent in cessity of a change in the existing arbitrary regulations of the Board of Customs in respect to the transit trade, stating that the delays and cost incurred by the merchants by these regulations were perfectly unendurable. Lord J. ItUsSELL briefly responded, and in his obser. vatione there were three points specially prominent. Up to this period his lordship said private merchants and not the government must be held responsible for whatever defects were to be found in the system of the Customs. Lord Granville, as Vice-Preeident of the Board of Trade, and Mr. Hayter, Secretary to the Treasury, had applied them selves during a considerable period of time to the minute investigation of the as,erted evils, and they had experienced the greatest difficulty in inducing persons to come forward with any really useful information on the subject. (A laugh.) llis lordship was of opinion that it would be very desirable to have eminent gentlemen in the commer cial world, or at least gentlemen eminent for commercial knowledge, at the Board of Customs ; but the salaries were such that the fact was that merchants of standing could not accept such lasts; and it was evident that the opinions of a s..coml-rate class of merchants of no standing or poai ' lion would not he attended to with respect, and could not meet with confidence. Thirdly, his lordship said that the government desired to act in a manner which would be satisfactory to the trading world, and the gentlemen com posing the present deputation might rest assured that the ' whole subject should lie fully inquired into and carefully in vestigated with the least possible delay. The deputation, after an interview which lasted about three-quarters of an houx, then retired. COMMISSION OF LUNACY. Yesterday the inquiry into the state of the mind of' Mrs. Catherine Cumming was again resumed at the Eyre Arms, St. Juhn's-wood, before Mr. Francis Barlow. 'r ease for the promoters was managed ey Sir Frederick Thesiger, Q.C., and Mr. Petersdorlf ; and that for the other side by Mr. Edwin James, Q.C., Serjeant Wilkins, and Mr. Southgate. The elimination of witnesses in support of the petition was resumed. _ . Elizabeth Marie, the wife of a plasterer, residing at No. 2, Poole's-buildings, Oray's.inn-road, deposed to hav ing in November or llteember, WO, made en arrangement with Mrs. Caroming for her daughter, Mary Anne, a girl of about 12 years of age, to wait upon her, and to read to her. Mrs. Cumming asked the child whether she was fond of cats, and she said yes. Mrs. Cumming desired her to look at them, and remarked that they were beautiful creatures. She then said that she would tell them their names. The first was called " Vic," out of respect, witne,s supposed, to Queen Victoria. (Laughter.) The second was named " The Queen of Vczetta," and called, for short, " Viz ;" the third, " Mrs. Thomas ;" and the fourth, " Kitty." Mr. E. James—Was that the kitten ? Witness—Oh dear, no ; it was a full-grown cat. Mr. Petersdorff—Perhape it was called ' Kitty " out of respect to what it once had been ? (Laughter.) Witnets—Probably so. Mrs. Cumming gave me the pedigree of the cats. Mr. retcrsdorff—Well, what was the name of the neat cat ? Witness—Mrs. Cumming said it was called "Tommy," !meanie it had not been christened. (Laughter.) Mr. James—Was " Tummy " tho son of " Mrs. Tho mas?" Witness—Really, sir, I don't know. Examination resumed—Witnesa's daughter, Mary Anne, remained there three weeks. lied another daughter named Ellen, who went into Mn. Cumming's service at Christmas 18.50. Mrs. Cumming told witness that she was very much pleased with May Anne, and said she should like to engage witness's daughter Ellen as housemaid. She said she was going to remove from Queen's-road to Howley-place in the course of a few days, as she had taken a house from Sir Matthew Wyatt. She said the house was to be kept more cleanly than the one she was in, and that she must have an extra servant. Witness's daughter Ellen war 16 years of age. Afterwards heard that Mrs. Cumming had taken a dislike to witness's daughter, and called upon Mrs. Cutnraing about a week after Christ mas. Before she entered the room witness took a small quantity of spirits, aa she always did, for the smell was so noxious that she could nut otherwise have stood it. The smell arose from the cats. If ever witness opened the door she said, " Oh, Mrs. Hickie, do close the door • the dear creatures will go out and I shall lose them." ( Laughter.) Mn. Cumming was in a night-dress, which was very dirty, for she wore it night and day. She said she was starving, and that her cook, whom she called " the rough diamond, or " the mistress of the kitchen," would not let her have anything. Did not recollect hearing Mrs. Cumming call the kitchen " the minister of the interior." (Laughti.r.) Witness offered to buy her something to eat, but she said she could not afford it, for that villain Mr. Robert Haynes had robbed and swindled her out of every thing she had. Sho stated that Mr. Haynes had drawn up a will, in which he had left himself the bulk of her property. Witness told her that she might make another will, which she said she intended to do. She also said that she had not signed the will, and witness remarked that was a good thing. Wit ness's daughter was then called up, and she said to Mrs. Cumming " You know you would not allow me to get you anything, ma'am." Mrs. Cumming then pointed to the cats' table cloth, and said " Look, Mrs. Hickie, those poor animals have gut dirty plates." Witness suggested, in reply, that they had perhaps only recently dined. (Laughter.) Witness told her daughter to fetch clean plates, and Mrs. Cumming appeared to be much pleased. Nest time witness called upon her she said, "It's all over, Mrs. Hickie ; I have signed that cursed will in Mr. Hutchinson's parlour, at least so they say, but it is not my will ; and I shall send for Mr. Thorne, a most respectable man, to take my affairs out of that villain's (Mr. Haynes) hands. He has got 2,0801. of mine, and I cannot got one penny of it from him. I seat Mr. Hutchinson to Mr. Haynes for money, and he sent me 301. stating that that was out of his own pocket, as he had not been paid for the previous law suit." She then prayed fur curses upon Mr. Haynes and his wife because they had robbed her even of her clothing. Witness called on her next on a very cold evening. She had no fire and was shivering from cold. She said that witness had sent an angel to her in the shape of her daughter, and but for her she would have perished. She had then wi..neaa's daughter's :cloak on. She said " Isn't it a shocking thing that I, • lady possessing the property I do, should bo situated in the manner I am, through a scoundrel who is keeping an establishment with my money ? That villain Haynes will be my death." Wit ness stayed with her nearly un hour, for she cried very much and wrung her hands, as if in great agony. Sho was exceedingly dirty, and smelt very offensively. The ceiling of the drawing-room where this took place was nearly falling in from the moisture from the rata in the room above. She wished Mr. Hickio to repair it, but wit ness said he would have to remove it completely, as the laths must be completely rotten. Mrs. Cumming stated that Mrs. Hutchinson had assisted in robbing her, and had left her no clothes to wear. Witness asked how it was she permitted people to rob her. She replied that she could not help it, and that she must inane unless they brought her a few pounds. Shortly after Mrs. Cumming removed from the Queen's road she asked witness to remain with her. She was very much excited and out of temper. She said she was very much annoyed by the creatures srounil her (the servants). All the five cats were then on the bed. The drawing-room was cleared out by her directions, as she said she expected Sir Matthew Wyatt and Mr. Thorne would c.. 11 to sign some agreements respecting the house. Mrs. Cumming re , k\i ,u, t s n t e et . l rhietnnegssave her tom a ul p l ie no ce m o e f w u n n e, .lilie t h ho s u hiid i r t a wu drank. very stale, stir ire it. She then became very vio lent,i and rang for " the mi-tres - , of the kitchen." Th.• servant did not immediately come, and Mrs. Cumminis said, " Never mind, Hickie 1 will serve them out ; and aceottliegly she did outwitting very unpleasant. Mrs. Cumming than had herself dressed in a satin gown. The 3 operation lasted about three bean. She said, " Hieithr. don't I look nice ? You know Sir Matthew io emeng es a courtier." (Laughter.) Witness wed, " But Sir M inhale is married ;" and Mrs. Cumming exclaimed, " Olt ! dies no, that is a mistake. It is his sister who lives with him; she is a widow and those are her children." In a gamier of An hour afterwards Sir Matthew arrive it. lie molt a chair Iteside her, and said, " Mahon, I am deligiutee to see you arc so well this morning, and looking so charming." (Loud laughter.) Mr. E. James—lt morns that the old lady was right after all. (Laughter.) Examination resumed—Mr. Thorne came afterwards, but witness was not then in the room. Witness was at Mrs. Cummings five days, and went to bed each night about 12 o'clock. Did not sleep the first night at all, as witness was apprehensive of something happening to Mrs. Cumming. She was always wringing her hands and cursing Mr. Haynes, and a person named Jones, whum Mr. Haynes had sent to road to her. On one occasion she said that Jones had got a Fold watch of her's, but that he never exhibited it. She said she gave him (Jones) 71. for coals, that he sent two sacks and pocketted the rest of the money. Witness was apprehensive that she would destroy herelf, for she was violent at nights, and always exclaiming Hilt people were coming after her and wanted to take her to the mad house, and that her children were pursuing her in order to get her property, but she added, she had not much, for that villain Haynes had not left her much. One day, when they were talking about Mr. Robert !hypes, witness said she had never seen Mrs. Haynes. Mrs. Cum ming said, " No, she does not come here now, for she was talking about Rush, and she said that she would net have allowed such a disgrace to leave fallen on her family—that she (Mrs. Cumming) asked her what she meant, and Mrs. Haynes replied, " Oh, I would have given him mniethiii that would have taken him off comfortable." (Laughter. To that Mrs. Cumming said she replied that she sup she (Mrs. Haynes) would not have minded giving her something. After witness had left the house site culkd again on Mrs. Cumming in consequence of something she had heard about her daughter. Mrse Cumming said, "Oh, you're cunne to fetch that beauty. She has turned out as bad as the rest." Witness took her youngest daughter away. Did not think that Mrs. Cumming had any just ground of complaint against M cry Rainey or her eldest daughter. Perhaps she had amenst her youngest daughter. Mrs. Cumming writ to wish her to sit dose to her, and with her back towards her. The child objected to that, because Mrs. Cumming hail attempted to cut her throat. Upon which Mrs. Cumming said that even the cats were angry with her, and the child laughed. The child frequently hail laughed at her; and, considering Mrs. Cummings state, that was decidedly improper, and witness had chided her for it. When witness called neat the fur niture was being removed, and, by Sir Matthew's direction, witness took a cab, and went to Mrs. lace's. Mrs. Ince was notat home, and witness proceeded to Mr. Jones's, in Sloane square, where she met Mr. Ince. Mr. Ince and Mr. Hooper came to Sir Matthew Wyatt's house, which was next door to where Mrs. Cumming had been residing. Del not know whether Sir Matthew was a county magistrate. Had heard Mrs. Cumming and Mrs. Hutchinsou talk about Mrs. Cum ming's children. Mrs. Hutchinson said Mrs. Cuntrning was an unfortunate lady, for she had very bad children, end that they were seeking to place her in a mad-house, where she had been before in confinement, and that they were very unkind to her. Witness said it was very wrong of Mrs. Hutchinson, a mother herself, to set a mother against her fancily. Witte as said she was a metier herself, and considered Mrs. Ilutchierion's conduct was very wicked. Mrs. Cumming told witness to mind her own business, and to leave the room. Mrs. Cumming was not at all an ex travagant woman in her habits. She was very penurious. Cross-examined by Mr. E. James—Witness's daughter Ellen (the eldest), had He a year, and the other 2 , .. a week. There was cuthing penurious about that. Mary Rainey introduced the Ilickie family into the house. W ewes went down with the police when Mrs. Cumming was arrested on a charge of forgery, at Hutchinson's bowie. Dist not go to liutchinson's house to identify Mrs. Cumming, that she might be arrested by the police—at least, not particularly. Was in the drawing-room of Mrs. Ilutchinsonet lemee with the police. Did not recollect where witness saw Mr. Jones. Thought it was at Mr. lace's. Had not seen him fur two or three days before this charge, at an attorney's office in Fenchurchedrect. Saw him once at lace's. Jones was the man who preferred the charge. Saw Jones the following day ;he called on witness at her house. lie called upon witness to speak with her about Mrs. Cununing's affairs. had previously told him her address. He told witness that a charge was to he brought against Mrs. Cumming that would sue prise witness very much. Witness's daughter did not care much for the threat to cut her throat, because she knew she could easily keep out of Mrs. Cummings reach. Mary Anne Hickie, an intelligent-looking little girl, de posed to Mrs. Cumming's habits. Used to attend to the cats, to place napkins and plates for them, and to cut up their victuals for them. Mrs. Cumming once told her that she was not doing it properly, and said she would cut wit ness's throat. Witness thought she meant it, and was quite frightened. On another occasion witness gave her a two pronged fork. Mrs. Cumming did not like it, and witness took her the knife-basket in order that she might choose one for herself. She laid hold of the carving-knife and said, "It looks tempting, don't it ? I've a good mind to cut your throat with it." She ground her teeth and looked so angry that witness ran out ' of the room in alarm. Mrs. Cumming was very dirty in her habits, and often was so in order to vex ' the servants. She used very bad language daily, and, as far as witness could see, without any cause. Crow-examined by Mr. James—A. table cloth used to be laid on the floor for the cats, and a coup plate was placed at each corner. The meat was cut up and put in the plates ;_ and the gravy or beef tea was poured over it. A cup of milk was also placed for each. The meat wen gravy beef. The cats were all fat except " Kitty." (Great laughter.) " Kitty" had been ill. When " Kitty" was ill Mrs. Cum ming gave her wine. (Laughter.) That wee by the doc tor's advice, and the wine was forced down the cat's throat, (Renewed aughtere r Simeon Thorne—l am an attorney in Berners-street, Oxford-street. On the leth November, 1850, I received a : menage, in consequence of which I called on Mrs. Cum ming. I saw her in her bedroom. She appeereil to be ex ' ceedingly infirm, but was out of bed. I was particularly struck by the offensive smell, and I observed a vast number . of cats. Though I am fond of animals, I was afraid of being scratched by them, they were jumping about so. There was a tablecloth on the floor, arid the cats appeared to have been feeding off some plates upon it. Mrs. Cum ming said she wished to consult me upon her Milan. She said she had employed Mr. Robert ilaynex, of Orchard street. She stated that she had had a commission of lunau, and had been examined before the commissioners; that Mr. Robert Haynes was present visually, and that with her sanction he had undertaken her case. She then complained that she could get no money from him; though he had had many thousands of pounds of here. lu answer to my quei tion, she said she had had no account of the manner in which that money had been applied. She stated that she had paid him all his collet. She mid that he And received the money as rents and other monies. She wished that ho should be discontinued as her solicitor; and she could give me no information about her property, because Mr. Robert Haynes had all her papers. After calling several times upon Mr. Robert Haynes without seeing him, I had a personal interview with him on the 21st of November last. Mr. Haynes objected to render any account, as it had been rendered over and over again to Mrs. Cummiug. Ile said that she owed him between 3001. and 600/. for costs, and if I wished to move the peepers out of his hands, it must be in the usual manner, by undertaking to pay his costs. I stated that if he would render me an account of all his cash transactions, so as to satisfy me that he had dealt fairly and honestly by Mrs. Cumming, it was not my intention to deprive him of his client; but that I should certainly require to have a full account, because she had stated to me that he had had many thousands of hers. lie promised rue the account, but he said that the bill of costs would take some time to prepare. The witness then wrote to Mrs. Cumming, stating what had occurred, and requesting a personal interview. On the fol lowing day I received from Mrs. Cumming a letter which had been sent her by Mr. Robe Haynes. [The letter con tained no account, which was read ] Mrs. Cumming, in a note sent me at the same time appointed an interview on the following clay. I attended, and she entered into a statement of her affairs. She said that the commission of lunacy haul been taken out by her husband, and had been continued by her children. She appeared to be very much excited in speaking of them, end called them " unworthy." She said she had never received the amount-, stated to have been paid her by Mr. Haynes, whom she called • rogue, and said that unless I took the mom effective mese sures I should never be able to get the account from hint. She proposed going before a magistrate, but I represented that that was not the proper course; and she agreed to leave all to me. She said that Mr. Haynes hail risen from being a mere lawyer's clerk to reside in a splendid mention in the neighbourhood and to keep his carriage out of her money. Site added that the neighbours used to say as she passed, "There goes poor Mrs. Cumming, who is not able to pay her way," and that hurt her so much that she did not like to go out of the house. I asked her how it was that Mr. Ilaynes had been able to get so much of her money into hi. hands, and whether she hail signed any conveyances ? She said she did not know what they were; and when I explained them to her, she told me she had often signed long pieces of parchment at R. Haynes'e request, but that she did not know the nature of them. She said he told her they were all right, and sho must put her name to them; that the documents were never read over to her; that she trusted all to him, and that this was how he had deceived her. Site then cried bitterly. I lead great difficulty in getting this information from her. She once told me she expected he would bring her her death warrant. I wrote again to Mr. Ilayneeerequiring anexplunation of an item of 791. which ho said he bad paid her, and his general nueount of all moneys that had come into his hands sicco his employment by Mrs. Cummins. Mr. Haynes replied, saying that he could not give the account without further tines, and that the 7 9 /. had been sent Mrs. Cum ming by her own servant. When I saw Mrs. Cumming again, she said Robert leierim's statement was a lie. On further pressing her, she said that her conehman had once , brought her some money, but she told hint that if Robert Haynes could not bring it himself he (the coachman) might take it back. She complained bitterly of her servants, and especially of One who had been recommended by Mr. Haynes. On one occasion, when she appeared to be ex ceedingly irritated against Mr. Ilaynes, I thought it neces sary to motile her and I admired the cats. She was very much delighted, and told me their names and history. I afterwards saw Mr. Haynes about the 791., and he said he could prove that it had been sent by the coachman. lie also entered into other cup n • , ' stated that his oats amounted to betwee [At this stage of the ' 'fi , ..Cspegninst was brought into the rem. 'lo ath the mane state as oa Tandor... - -0 in perfect 7.:.- .• '. 1 ..7 --: ir. L . ' .. ',.. .4.1 Y.' ! •-• 2c. , ... • .. ' 4 ' l s_. r 7 " :: bl ^-, • :=. 'a7.-.. ,:n ci : C yd ` t .4., .tri d i CAC -- - • I - r--. I.*