The Express. — London, England, 1848-07-05 00:00:00

for bonded grain. The supply of Barley is good, but not be yond the demand, which is great at fully late prices. We had Mr to-day ' s market a rather large supply of Wheat from ' our own growers-quality very fine, and, more desire being evinced to realise, the trade was only dull, and last week's prices not exceeded-very little doing in foreign, for the rea son assigned above. Barley is in good demand, and quite equal to the rates of this day week; in some cases more money is paid. All other kinds of spring Corn are dull of sale, and especially Beans, which are in great supply. Na inquiry for Peas, except at low prices, for grinding. There is a good supply of Linseed, which meets a fair sale at our currency. There arc fewer transactions in Cokes, and the prices art so well maintained. do supply of German Rapeseed for businem. Rape Cakes the tuna lower. We have Kill businces in Boors for consumption this year, and the !market rather rider. The fallowing are the present prices: -Wheat, per qr., red, 48s. to '.05. ; new, 48e. to 50s. ; white, ISs. to 525. ; new. 48s. to 525.; Dantele, 505. to 515. ; Lower Baltic and iLimaurg, 475. to 50s. Barley, !salt ing, 265. to 28s. ; grinding, 21s. se 255. Oats. Danish. Ls. to 195.; Friesland, 20s. to *.:2s ; Russian, 17$. to 20s. Beans, 36a. to 38s. ; foreign, 30e. to Peas, white sea yellow, Ma to 36e. Linseed, cra.hina, 32 5. to 40s. ; feeding, 42a. to 445. hammed, per 10 qrs., 251. 10s. to 261. Linseed Cakes, English, per tor., 81. ISo. ; foreign, 71. , to 8/. Rare Cakes, 975. 6d. Bones, 82s. 6d. to 901. Guano, 4!. to 9/. ss. Imports from the 24th June tot he 30t hu 1e h June inclusive : Wheat, coastwise , 400; foreign, .702 3,417 ; Oats, 1,12 d; Bean', 2,819; Peas, 329 ; Linseed, 8,182 ; Linseed Cakes, 1 6 ; Rope Cakes, 125 ; Bones, 449. LEIOIITON IiCZZAND, July 4.-Of Wheat there was a large supply this day. At the early part of the market, is some instances, a slight advance was obtained; but, gams rally epeaking, the trade ruled dull, at last week's priests. For Barley a fair retail demand, at previous currencies. Wheat, per load of 5 bushels, 254. to 31s. 6.1. Barley, per gr. imp., 275. to 30s. [leans, obi, 2Ss. to 30s. ; new, 245. to 'd' is. lieu, lie to 255. per 5 bushel/. LLWEi4, July 1.-Our supplies to-day were fair, and, as factors and millers evinced a disposition to buy, it was all cleared at an advance of la. to 2s. per qr. from the rates of this day seamight. All other grain in moderate demand. Wheat, white. 131. to 104.; r 51, 121. to 121.5.. Barley, 30s. ta 31s. Oats, 190. to 21s. Beau., 345. to lids. Peas, 375. to 3Sa. Lreos. July 1.-Our arrivals of Wheat are tolerable th's week. A more favourable prospect of weather has to-day given increased caution t o , the miller., and sales can scarcely be made at Friday's pries', and merely a retail demand. Barley nominal. Oats and Shelling steely. Beans and other uticles as before. Wheat, 50s. Id. per qr. ; Barley, 345. 41. ; Oats, 2-2+.'21.; Brans, 33.. 3,1. Liveitroot, July 4.-Aided by several further arrivals since Friday - . the entries into this port during the week include a tolerable amount of Grain Will Flour coastwise and from Irelanl; those of foreign produce consisting chiefly of a marlerate quantity of Wheat tram Europe, a good supply of led , aa C 411 from the American States, 1,931 quarters Egyptian Beans, and from Canada a few parcels of Wheat and Peas, with 13,629 lourele of Fame, brine the first spring shipment& thence this season. We have had a few alight showers only since the tail of last week, and today the weather is fine, with a settled appearance. Raving a good attendance of buyers at this day's market, most descriptions of British and &ream Wheat continued to :meet a fair demand at the im?roved rates of Friday; but as no inclina tion was evinced to imitate the more spirit example of London and several other leading mark,ts in this country and Ireland, our quotations of to-day stand merela led. per 70 lbs. over the currency of Tuesday last. Flour, although less naraative, was saleable to a moderate extrut et nearly the priers etatea in the foregoing report. Barley, of which saucily any remaan here, was nominally unaltered in value. Malt dull of sale, at the decline above mentioned. Beans appeared to command little notice. Peas, however, met an improved inquiry, and both main tained late prices. Oats and Oatmeal, restricted to little mare than a limited retail demand, the former barely sup ported lila terms of last week, and the latter r, ceded 3,1. to Gd. per load. Raying several more Irish buyers here again to-day, Indian Corn enaanued to b' taken freely, and, re covering part of oho decline previously mentioned, closed Is. per quarter only below the rates of this day se'unight. Corn 31 .al was also in good request, at 19s. :11, but few sellers under 14.. per barrel. The fallowing are the present prices:-British; Wheat, per 70th., English, red, 74. 4d. to 7s. 5d.; extra, 7s. sd. to 7s. 81 ; white, 7s. dd. to 7s. lids ; extra, 7s. Bd. to Bs. Od. ; Irish, red, 6s. 4d. to 7s. 2d.; extra, 7.. 2d. to is. Id.; white, To. to 7s. 451. ; exera,7s. 4.1. to7s. 7d. Barley, per qr., English, 30.. to 315.; Chevalier, 325. to 35..; Scotch and blab, per GOlba., 3s. 9,1. to 4s. Malt. English, per qr., pala, 57, to 623. Oats, English and Scotch, oer 4-Sib., sad, 2s. 10d. to 3.. Ods ; Welsh, Old, 2s. 101 to 2s. 11d.; Irish. flue sort., new, 2s. Old. to 2s. lead.; old, 2s. 941. to 2e. 102. ; general, new, 2s. 7d. to 21.81 d.; old as. ,S,l. to 2.. 93. Beans, per qr., Eng., new, 375. to 39e.; old, 10e. to 42e. ; Scotch and loch, per 4801 b., new, 33a. to 3.1 a. ; old, 365. to 375. Fear, English, pet qr., white, new, 40e. to 4'3. ; ditto and Irish, grey, 31s. to 365. Flour, per 2801 b., English and Irish, fine, 3:is: to 365., superfine, 39a. to las. ; extra, 41s. to 425. Oatmeal, per hied of 2101 b., new,24s. 6d. to2ss. 3d.; old, 235.61. to 215.; Canadian, old. 'Ma to 235. 65. Bran, per 2414..,1.. to Is. 2d. Foreign: Wheat, per 7016., Canadian, red. 7..14. to 71.4 d.; white, 7s. ad. to 7s. 9d. ; United States, red, 71. 6d. to 75.91. ; white, 7s. 9,1. to Bs. 3d. ; Beattie, mixed and red, 7s. 7d. to 7s. 11d. ; high MUNI, 81. 3cl. to Si. 91.; Lower Baltic and Hamburg, red, 7a. 7d. to 7s. Ild. ; white, 75. 10,1. to Bs.; Riga and Petersburg, red, 6s. sd. to Gt. 7d. ; Archangel, Gs. 3d. to 65. 6d.; Odessa, common, red, 6s. sd. to 61. 9d. ; Polish, Gs. 10d. to 7s. ; French, Spanish, and Italian, red, 6e. Gd. to fa. Ild. : white, Gs. 11d. to 75.3 d. ; lainnat and Marianopoli, red, fa. 9d. to Gs. 1 1 LI.; Egyptian,43. 3d. to as. fida Meditemnean ,6sc., hard, red, 51, Gd. to os. 102. Rye, per tar., Baltic, 265. to 28s. Barley, per 601 b., 3s. 91. to 45. Oate, per 451 6 .. 2e. 10d. to - : Barley , 2.. 7d. to 2s. al. Beans, per qr., European, 335. to 354.; Egyptian, per 480:b., 24.61. to 2.5a.6d. Peas, per qr., Baltic, he., white, Oas. to 385.; Canadian, 31s. to 325. Flour, per barrel of 1961 b., Canadian, sweet,27B.6d. to 285.6 d.; United Staten, sweet, 2Ss. to 29e.; United State-, Canadian, sour, 255. to 2Gs. Indian Corn, per 41:01b., American, white, 29e. to 31m; yellow, 311. 01. to 335. 64. ; European, yellow, 335. to 34e.6d. In Tian Meal, per 19614.5., 13s. to 131. 9d. Arrivals from '27th June to the 3rd July, inclusive, into Liverpool and Raneorn : Wheat, 6,048 qrs.; Barley, 7G ; Malt, 1,259 ; Oats, 6a198 ; Rye, MS ; Beane, 2,052 ; Peas, 452; Indian Corn, 14,a7S ; Indian Corn Meal, 447 barrels; Oatmeal, 2,156 sack.; Flour, 3,491 smite. 13,888 harsh. LYNN, July 4.-A fair quantity of Wheat et market to day, and free sale at an advance of le. per qr. (Alba. to 631 M., 47a. to 50e.; fine white, 535. Oats, 11 W. per stone. Beans, 365. to 40s. per qr. to the growers. Pavaitotta, July 4.-At this morring's market there was an improved demand for Wheat, and some pales were made at Is. to 2s. advance on last week's pricer. The weather has bean very wet for several days, but appears likely to clear. SALI6HrItY, July 1.-The quantity of mean pitch«l was small, and the transactioas were extremely limited amongst farmers and millers. The prices of Wheat increased fully Is. to 21. per qr. In Barley no material change made. Oats, were selling in best samples at an increase of from Gd. to Is. per qr. No diminution in pries far Beans and l'eu. Finest sammes of Wheat from 47.. to a 3,. per qr. ; good quality, 435. to 475. ; inferior, has 40s. to 435. Best Flour. 375. per each ; mecends, 355. Malt, :AC to 64a. Superior Oats, 265. per qr ; common tad, the. 6d. to 19e. Sr. Ives, July 3.-Tbe Wheat trade to-day the same as last week, market very heavy, no: much doing; general trade to-day very flat indeed. Inspecter's corn return for the week ending June 26 : Wheat, 179 qrs., 455. 910. ; Bar ley, 11 gra, 30s. aid. DINTZIC, June 27.-Tee bettor accounts from your side caused holders to stand ,saa. fur higher prima at yesterday's market; they soon fermi. however, that parchment would not come forward at their demands; and. lowering the latter, therefore, tee, about lam week's rater, the butanes' became rather more active. About 350 lasts of Wheat changed hands, of which about 70 lasts dashed, 6011 n. to 61Ibs , at 36,.; 60 lasts white Sandlotnir, 6111 w. to 621b5., at 3as.; 40 lasts bug Wheat, 621 as , at 375. ; 50 lasts of extra tine mixed Lower Polish Wheat were taken by is speculator, at 394. free on board. About 70 lasts lower Polish, mixed, 611ba, 365., and the remaining quantity went into the bands of speculators, at 34a. to 3.55. for 59:655, both inferior description'. At our market this day about 130 lasts Wheat were sold. consisting principally of middling mixed Lower Polish, 611b5.. 311. to 351. 11111 show of fry sh samples was very small, and the demand seems to be more lively for the finer amt.. which were altogether wantine. The last report from Thorn mentioned about 700 lasts having again passed the frontiers. a seals haeo been chartered fur the east coast at 4,., and London 4s. fal, MALTA, June 21.-8..111S Oar deposit small at the rno meat, but one or two °moon exeecter ; the price here has advanced considerably, !rut as cur rate of exchange for draw ing has also improved, shipments, notwithaanding the ad vance in price, could he made rat shout ISo. 10.1. per imp. qr., Le 1.. Wheat, on the other hand. has declined, and, being aided by the exchanges, purchase. at this moment could he made on very advantageoustarms, say, fiae Taganrog hard, weighing 62Ihs. and upwarde'per bush., at 28s. Ild.; do., weighing 6111bs. to 621 b.., at 2tlms to 2Se. Gd. per imp. qr., f.o.b. Freight might be reckoned, 3s. to 3s. lid. per imp. qr. in full. WOOL.—HUDDEP.MELD, July 4.—We have much pleasure in being able to report that more business has been done in this department of our staple trade than for many weeks peat. The low prices which can be taken for German Wools have had the t-ndency to bring buyers into the mar ket, who have open::: I somewhat extensively. German Wools, varying from le. H. to Is. 91 per lb., are the kinds most sought after. Colonial Wools are also moving rather more freely. MANUFACTURES.—Ht'UDERSFIEL; July 4. Our Piece-hall has been better attended to-day, and more business done than for some time past. It seems to be the gentral opinion of all parties embark.d in the Worlien ma nufactures that things have seen the wont. Prices are ruling very low. CATTLE, &e.—LITERetiL,ly 3.—The supply of mock at our market to-day has been smaller that, of late, and the quality, .at the whole, inferior. Beof and Mutton a little higher; Lamb lower. Bet f, 6d. to 64d.; Mutton, GI. to 61d.; Lamb, 13d. to GA. per lb. SALIISIXELY, July 4.—Little lean dock in market. Some good specimen. fetched their value; inferior animus not in request. Heifer.. with Caves, fetched from Sl. to lul. Good Calves, 30a per head; moderate, Us. to 18s. Store Bogs, 605.; Sews, 02s. GI.; luckier', 14e. to 16s. per head. Sr. Ivss, July 3.—There era* a good supply of fe. Beasts in the market to day. which tersusel very heavy. The store Beast market we well supplied ; they seemed a little hasp. for Yesterany's - a;a4. *Ss jai aria paw. M PLURAL PA RUA ALEN 1. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TUESDAT, JULY 4. The LORD CIWICTIILLAR PRIV took his seat at 5 °Week. ATE SECOND READlEoE—Plymouth Great IVeetern Deck Act Amend ment ; Dover Ilarbour ; Edinburgh and Northern Railway (Roscobie, Keltyhead, and Glenerds Branchee); Great Weetern Railway Liner ßanch Bern Slough to Windsor); Great Western Railway (Loop from the nirmiesham and Oxford Junction Railway threugh Leamington) ; Great Western Railway (Birmingham and Oxford Junction, ac., Railways Purchase) ; London and South Western Railway Compan y, an d Southampton and Dorchester Railway Company (Amalgam); Stirling and Ihinferniline Railway (Amendment and Deviation); Lon don and North Western Itailway (Branches and Extensions from Lea mington); Wishaw and connive Railway (Deviation., Coanecting Branch, and Improvement); Fleetwood, Preston, and Went Riding Junction Railway (Burnley and Colliery Branches); Windsor, Stains, and Swath Western Railway Act (No. 1) 1647 (Deviations) ; Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway, and Glm'gow, Airdrie, and Menklanda Junction Railway (Amendment of Acts) ; North and South Western Railway (Harrow to Brentford) ; Scottish Midland Junction Railway (Amend ment and Branch to Laurcuockirk); Las. TIIIRD READlNGE—Manchester Corporation Water Works Act Amendment (Nu. 2) ; Waterford and Kilkenny Hallway Act Amend ment ; Dubbn and !dullingar Turnpike hoed; Low's Patent ; East Linn4nshire Railway (Alteration of Great Grimsby Branch); Leen. Central Railway Station; Lecidi and Think Railway (Ilarrogate and Pateley Branch); Bills. JUVENILE OFFENDERS. The Duke of RICHMOND, on presenting the petition on this subject from the City of London, said that the practice of trying children in courts of justice tended to harden them in the course of crime ; and he hoped to lay a measure oa the table next session with the view of *ending children charged with offences to a reformatory place instead of a common prison, where they might have some chance of being reclaimed. In the crowded gaols of this metropolis it was impossible that they could learn anything that would be of service to them, and they generally Cal= out much worse than when they went in. Lord KINN Al ItO said the subject was well worthy of 'attention, there were 100 OW children is the metropolis without education, and 30,000 who were vagrants, and who horded together in dens of iniquity. In Aberdeen it had been proved that children could be kept in a school with a view to their reformation for N. a year, and they could be maintained in London for 61. ; and this would be much cheapa than transporting them. Earl GREY said the boys who hail been sent to Parkhurst were often forwarded to Western Australia as apprentices, and the system had been found to answer remarkably well. They must be careful not to place children who bad been neglected by their parents in a better situation than the children of poor honest people. Lord Illt01;1; HAM thought it wan a great evil to subject children to the contamination of a gaol; corporal punish ment should rather be inflicted upon them than that they should be sent to gaols. THE NOItTII WALES RAILWAY. Lord MONTEAGLE, on prownting a petition on the subject of the conduct of the directors of this railway, said the case stated by the petitioner was, that he was an original shareholder; and that the directors had lent money on insufficient security, and he had been ft:loud acres. to the accounts. He intended to move for a committee to inquire into the facts alleged by the petitioner. Earl GItAN VILLE hoped the noble lord would give some formal notice of his motion. Lord WHARNCLIEFE thought the subject ought to be inquired into. Lord REDESDALE cvneidered that the legislature ought to interfere, to compel these great companies to furnish proper accounts. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE agreed with the noble lord who had just sat dowr, end was sorry that the bill for the better auditing of railway accounts had not been allowed to pass through the o th er house. Their lordships then, at six o'clock, adjourned. HOUSE OF CONINIONS.—TyesuAy, JULY 4. The Sreauta took the chair at 12 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. REPORTS CONSIATEI;.-I.liiiennead Dock Cammi.isioners (transfer of powers to new COMMiabiOWIN effecting arrangements with the crown, and amendment of wets) iNu. 2) ; Iliilme and Yorks Road ; Manchester, Bultim, Mattock, and MidLunis Junction Itailway Deviation and Branches ; Monkland and Airkwtillocb, Italluebney and Slanumnan Railways (amalgamation, or sale, or lease, mid ameml moot or repeal of acts) ; Royston and Oneida Itailway (extension to (cnheidge and branches); Bills. READINUS.—Dunbar Customs., Wider, and tlarbsur Dues Amendment; West of England and booth Wales Land Draining Com pany Incorporation; Bilis. LORDS' AMENDMENTS CONSlDERED.—Marchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Railway (station approach in Manchester) ; South York:aim. Doomster, and Gook Railway Amendment (extension to Peni•tone and alteration of Dadwurth branch); l'ialcaater and Halton DLit Turnpike Road (diversion, Ste., of the road iu the parish uf Tod mister) ; POETIC FICSINESS. COMMlTTEE.—lncombered Egan. Ireland IliIL PETITIONS.—Mr. Comma, team Derby, on the subject of pone law superannuation from a place not beard, for the suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act in Ireland.—ln favour of Mr. Ilume's mutton he parliamentary reform, by Dr. BOM from 00 inhatmanta of Dolton ; end from 440 females of the same borough; Lord D. Si IA6T. from St. Pancras. INCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion that the house go into committee on this bill, Sir L. O'BRIEN rose to move, pursuant to notice, that it be an instruction to the committee to extend the opt rations of the bill to England and Scotland. He had always understood that the principle on which the imperial government desired to proceed was, that Ireland should be regarded as an integral part of this country, entitled to the same laws and in all respects placed upon an equality with England and with Scotland. It was therefore most issential that the practice of the law should be placed upon the same basis in all the three kingdoms. lle complained that so important a measure should nave been driven oft to s 3 late a period of the sission ; for the bill, in point of fact, as it had come down to them from the Lords, was so changed as to have become altogether a new measure. The tinancial condition of tho landed proprietors of the west of Ireland was perfectly deplorable. Take the case of Mace county. The ordinary taxation of that county had been about 50,0001. per annum ; hut at the last grand jury levy this sum had been very nearly doubled, in consequence of the severe distress of the country. Upon one portion of his estate, which paid him Ills. an acre rent, the tenants paid in the shape of rate no less than Its., being Is. more that their rent. It would, perhaps, be said that this was all the fault of the gentry of Clam themselves — that their heavy taxation was owing altogether to the ex• traysgance of expenditure on the part of the local authea cities; but long and clog observotion enabled him to say that he did nut join in the condemnation of the local au thorities on any such ground. What he did condemn, how ever. and that very strongly, was the manner in which the loans from this country had been administered in Ireland. Ile conaidered that, as regarded the advances un :er the Labour-rate Act, every farthing of these advances ought to be cancelled from the anuunt between this country and Ire land. One half of the advances had already been cancelled, and the other half ought equally to be removed from the account. He considered that the money thus expended should lie re garded as essentially an imperial expenditure, to obviate, as nearly so possible, the effects of an imperial calamity. At a momeut:of distress like this—and distress occasioned to so great an extent by calamities impossible for man to avert — he considered that it would be most unjus.. to give the cre ditors of estate in Ireland powers over the debtors which were not in force in the other portions of the empire. This bill had been put forward as a boon to the land lords of Ireland, as enabling them voluntarily to part with outlying portions of their estates to redeem the rest. Such a bill would have been welcomed ; but this bill, as it now stood, was to no such purpose. The bill, instead of being a loon, would expose the land lords of Ireland to every spccies of annoyance to which creditors could resort. The present was en inopp irtune moo- meld fur bringing in such a penal measure. the question became now a constitutional one, viewing the measure as an infringement of the law of entail. He was not going to en ter into the question as to the grounds of that law, but it was recognised from the succeasicn of the crown down to the smallest inheritance in the empire, and as such should not without better reasons than were alleged in favour of the bill be disturbed. If the bill were carried into law the tenant fur life would have the extraordinary power of raising money on the real value of the estate, and the next heir, instead of succeeding to his property, would find that a power to sell wise lodged with the creditors of his predecessor, and that a small balance arising from the surplus produce of the sale would be lodged to his credit at his banker's, in stead of taking possession of his hereditary landed estate. The bill even west so far as to give the morteagee power to sell the estate by private contract, so that it might be sold under its real value, and thus not even a surplus might exist for the next heir, Ile begged pardon for having occupied so much time, but he come forward manfully as the apolo gist for the lauded classes of Ireland, and as such must be remitted to state his ease, for in his belief a mom honour able class of men did not exist. He liked to put the saddle on the right horse, and in his opinion the blame attached to the peewit condition of the landlords of Ireland was to be ascribed to the ltgislative course which hod been pursued to words them. The fault ley in the mode of levying and imposing county rates. In his own case he had often been obliged to pay the rates for tenants from whom he had not received a shilling rent. Whenever a landlord was obliged to eject tenants for non-payment of their rents, he must either pull down the house or else pay the county rates for unoccupied tenements. There was no other remedy for this injustice than in pulling down the houses of ejected ten. nts ; if he built a house in a village, and put a tenant into it, he might never get a shilling of rent, and be three or four years before he was able to eject him and obtain pos session of his property. Having thus stated his views, he begged to move that it he an instruction to the committee to extend the operation of the bill to England a- d Scotland. The SPEAKER having put the original question and tho amendment, The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that since the bill had origirally been introduced there had Ihren alterations and amendments made in it of a very important demription, the nature and effects of which were not fully understood. He therefore begged the attention of the house, whilst he endeavoured to explain the provisions of the measure, and the difficulties which it was intended to remove with respect to the disposal of landed property in Ireland. With re spect to the clauses that bad been introduced and printed in the bill since it was first brought in, he admitted that they had been introduced at an unseasonable hour in a former stripe of the measure ; but he considered that it was better to have those clauses printed, in order to let hon. members hive the opportunity for fixity ascertaining their purport, than to postpone them until the bill was in committee. He would not follow the hon. baronet opposite into the discur sive topics which he had introduced, but would confine himself to a statement of the facts. The object of the bill was to make land a marketable commodity in Ireland, which at present it was not, owing to the particular state of the law. There was plenty of capital in Ireland, which was evi denced by the fact, that even during the height of the famine large sums were transmitted thence for investment in Eng- THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JULY 5, 1848. land; and there could be no question but that if land could e be purchased in small pieces capital would be plentifully in vested in it, and thus produce the most beneficial results. That was the object of the bill, and he would leave it to the house to judge if it was not a beneficial one. The difficulties which the government had encountered in framing the bill arose out of the state of the law he Ireland with respect to lace and its incumbrances, and these difficulties would oonstitute a sufficient answer to the amendment of the honourable baronet. The honourable and learned gentle man here entered into an elubonste legal statement respect ing the technicalities of the registries of deeds and mort gagee as well as of crown debts in Ireland, and of the effect which the successive incumbrances on land had upon the value of that commodity. The expense ot tracing the different incumbrances and their dates of priority, as well u of getting the tenants in fee to convey their claims, was sufficient to deter any one from entering into such negoti atoms for the purchase of landed property in Ireland. In order to deal with these complicated difficulties, the drawers of the bill tried to effect this object. They en deavoured to provide the means for enabling the tenant for life, or the incumbrancers to sell the estate, and to substitute in its place the money-value of it, which was to be endowed with all the properties of laud, and to remain subject to all the incumbrances that had existed on the estate, of which it was the representative. Thus, the money-value would descend in succession to the next heirs, and the land would be freed for all the purposes of commerce. The country would thus be relieved from its present condition of having the laud in such a position that no dealing could take place in it, and the owner of the land would bar placed in an inde pendent situation as far as the incumbrances were concerned. The nominal owner of the hind in Ireland was the person who was considered to bear the burthen of improving it, and of protecting his tenantry, whilst, in point of fact, he in the majority of cases posseseed no interest in it beyond that of deriving a life rental, and in exacting this ho incurred no responsibility in the public estimation. The government considered that the object which was hail in view of convert file incumbered estate' into money value might be accom plished in two ways. The first was by compulsory sale through the instrumentality of the Court of Chancery, whereby the various claimants would receive the amouut of their re• spective ineunthr times according to priority, and the *arse tage would be given to the purchaser of a parliamentary title, which would give him possession of the e,.tato against the world, and sweep away all necessity for previous search ing of the registries. That proposed was, in fact, the sub stance of the bill which came last year front the House of Lords. But it was thought that a chancery suit would prone a gnat impediment in the way of selling an estate, if it was necessary to file a bill as the find step towards a sale, for no class of nuns were more expensive or dilatory than those which involved inquiries into incumbrances on end titles to estates. The next provision which the big contained was to sell the property by consent, and to assume that consent in all cases where, after due notice had publicly and in a timely manner been given, no opposition was offered to such tale; and a subsequent clause was introduced, by which it wee enacted that in those cases where all the parties inter ested in an estate thought it ought to be sold, such estate could be sold without tho intervention of the Court of Chancery, upon condition that the money arising float the sale was brought into court to be dealt with according to the various claimants on the estate which it represented. In order to effect this object, it was requi.ite that al: the p arties interested should hate duo notice, and it was also highly immetant to guard against the possibility of fraudulent sales. The mode in which these precautio , s were effected was as follows. The house was aware that the tenant for life of an estate could not sell without the leave of the next heir, unless such an incumbrance existed as affected the whole estate. It was intended to guard against the possibility of a tenant for lite incumber nig the estate to an extent Oat would justify him under the other provisions of the bill in selling it to clear off such mortgage. That would be provided for by the third section of the act. But the power which the bill would give was that of (hairline the tenant for lite to sell the estate, in order to clear off the incumbrances which existed when he took it, and this which had been objected to constituted in point of fact the greatest advantage of the measure. If the tenant refused to sell, then the first ineumbraneer would hove the right to do so, and if he refused, this right was to descend ac cording to priority down to the last mortgagee. This provi sion had been objected to on the part of the Irish landholders, but as the law of England stood, any incumbrancer of an estate might sell it without the instrumentality of a bill in Chancery. The power had been disputed. hut he believed he was correct in stating that such was the law of England, and his hon. and learned friend the Lord Advocate would tell the house that a still greater pewee was given to the mortgagee of land in Scotland. Bet in order to guard against fraudulent sales, every precaution was taken of ex acting a complete extract from the two registries of all incum brances on the land, so that all who had any claim upon it might receive their due. The notice of sale, also, w ,, s to be made public in every lapsible form, and affidavits of notice of sale to all incumbrancers would be rigorously exacted from the parties, who before the sale was itli tied would also be re quired to prove that ecareh into the renistri, a had been strictly made. NVhen the estate was sold the accounts ilegen , ral would he authorised to receive the amount of the purchase-money. They expected that these regulations would b. a considerable check on improper sales. Every person interested might with ordinary diligence obtain notice of sale, and could apply to the court to stop it if cessary. They proposed to pm vide also against fraudulent mks, by enacting that pirliamen tary titles should not become valid until the end of five years front the time of purchase, a provision which was analogous to the English law, and would give ample time for the dis covery of any fraud, or the remedy of any irregularity in the transaction. The purchaser would have to take the pro perty subject to dispute as to title within five yeses, but after that he would hold it against all the world. lie ex pected great benefit to asise from the provision giving the owner of the property the first right to sell. When an incumbrancer sold, he sold only as much as suited his own purpose, and provided he realised his claim, cared not how he sold the property, whereas the owner would naturally seek the hest market, and set. his property at the best time and to the best 'silvan tage. ( Hear, hear.) For these reasons the clause allowing ineumbrancers to sell was only a means of compelling the owner to sell, and enabling him to do so on more freourable terms than would be obtained by the other party. lie was firmly convineed that this provision would turn cut a boon to the lendlords of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) It had been suggested that the occupier Wright, out of spite, sell an old family estate for the purpose of thwarting and disappointing his successor. But why could not the successor apply to the Court of Chancery to stop the sale ? lie might easily obtain notice, and he (the Solicitor Gsneral) proposed to insert a clause permitting a caveat to be entered under such circum• stances. tlr.liEOOH—Thesuecessermight be abroad. (Hear.) The SOLICITOR-GENERAL.—He might be abroad or a minor, it was true. In the latter cam, which was the most difficult to provide for, any person might apple on his behalf to the Court of Chancery in England or Ireland to stop the sale. lie did not think it probable that any one would act hoetilely . to his own child ; but even in that case any person might interfere in the manner he had described, and stop the sale. In the case of a person abroad he had suggested that Warty should be given to enter a caveat, and to serve notice on the register requiring to he served with notice of sale at a certain place appointed. An objection had been made to the hill that it would throw too great a quantity of land into the market at one time, but it should he recollected that the Action of the bill would be slow, and it would be a great many years le fore all the land coming under its operation could be sold. The only injury the bill would inflict would be on the lawyers. (Hear, and a laugh ) Every lawyer naturally felt that he had a vested interest in the landed estates, but in this instance his interests must he held subservient to the aceeral eon'. Nobeilv could deny that the word thirsts for I an Irish estate were a Chancery suit and a receiver. They had only to look into that expreasivereturn which had been lately prepared to see the injury which property suffered under such management. There was one ease in which out of the whole rents received 2,0001. only was spent in improving the estate, and 20,0001. in lawyers' costs. The effect of this bill would be to put an end to receivers in Ireland. Wherever there were incumbrances the estate would be cold, and tho purchaser would be provided with a cheap and clear title. (Hear, hear.) Annher good effect it would have would be to increase the class of small proprietors in fee. In England it had been ascertained that the number of such persons ex ceeded 200,000; mid if this hill enabled people with small capital to make small purchases it would be an invaluable aid in improving the social condition of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) lie hail now stated the general outline of the bill. He hail thought it Letter to confine himself strictly within its purview, and not to touch upon any point con nected with the complicated relationsof landlord and tenant. The object of the bill woo to facilitate the male of incum hered estates and to give the purchaser a toed title. If the latter condition were once obtained capital would soon How in, and thus an ample means would be afforded of Ilene ficisUy employing the population. (Hear, hear.) There were sine other points requiring explanati.m, hut he had confined himself to a general outline, believieg that as to d. tails the better way would be to eintine all discussion re specting them to the committee. (Cheers.) Mr. N AI'IER objected to the principle of the bill shops. ther. Its operation would be to give every possible facility to the incumbrancer, and no protection whatever to the holder in remainder. Property might be sold at half its value, and an entire family left without the provision which they had a right to expect. He denied that the bill was a boon to the landlords. Where was the boon ? The owner got the first right to sell, but he was compelled to do so under unfavourable circumstances. At the present moment there was no capital, no bidders for property in Ireland. A large estate of the Duke of Buckingham, which had been valued at 130,0001., had recently been sold to the mortgagee for 70,0001., little more than half its value. He objected also to the notice. Nobody ever read the Gazelle, as that most unjust sales might easily pen unnoticed. By this bill every judgmer t creditor would have the power of selling the land. The first part of the bill gives that power only to the first incumbrancer under the control of the Court of Chancery—that was intelligible; but the second part gave the same power, uncontrolled, to every incum brancer—every men who might happen to have a judgment for a small amount against the estate. Such a power would result in the majority of cans in utter ruin. He had no objection to giving lull protection to the rights of :he ineum braneers ; but those who held incumbrances on property had the power, under their securities, to sell and secure them selves, therefore they wanted no ad dtional powers. The bill, however, provided th it the property should not be forced into the mark,t by the owner against the Mourn- In...neer'. wish ; but while they thus protected the incum brancer, were thi p not to protect the tenants in remainder, who were in many eases h. pleas children and women ? This bill, instead of being a h.on, would be a serious injury to the landed proprietors of Ireland, and it could only be justified by a case of overwhelming wessity, which he contended did set exist—at all events no such case of necea• sit; had been pro red. Mr. MONSELL should be sorry if it went forth to the I d of le. L a rish .d f l ri an en d d lor ( d m s r. co N n a cu pi rr4l ., i ,d n the hon. baronet the member for Clare (Sir L. O'Bnen)— o w: in r IL that wi h a e h / . n k u o rn nt r (hear, beery—that because of some possible, and only pos sible, injustice to tenants in remsinder, the vast number of incumbered estates in Ireland were to be left in their pre sent position—a position fraught not only with pantiee evil to the nominal proprietor, hut with absolute misery to the occupiers. (Hear, hear.) His hen. and learned friend said ' that nothing but a case of overwhelming necessity could justify such a measure; but could there be • more urgent ease of neceesity than the existence of a system with so much evil and misery ? And he contended that, unlike other cases where change was proposed, in this case the coda probattdi lay with those who would perpetuate that system. In one respect be thought the bill did not go far enough. It was desirable not only that facilities for the sale of incum bered estates should be given, but that there should be a pow, r to divide such estates into small portions in order that the greatest amount of competition might be excited, and by a larger number of urchasers being brought into the market the property migh t be made op roduce as s much a+ possible. Ile believed the bill was necessary for the improvement of the social state of Ireland and for the well being of that country, and he entreated the house not to impair its e ffi ciency by interfering with that stringency the object of which was that the nominal proprietors of Irish property should be the real pioprietors. (Cheers.) Sir O. GREY suggested that as the house had been sitting since twelve o'clock, and was to proceed with its ordinary business at Ave o'clock, the Speaker should now be permit ted to leave the chair until that hour. (Hear, hear.) lie would propose that the debate should stand adjourned till Mond ,y when he would fix a day for proceeding with it. Mr. OSBORNE was anxious that the house should under stand what was the prnpoeition before it, because the speeches which had been made by the hon. hart. (Sir L. O'Brien) and by the hon. awl learned member, were not directed to the amendment, which it was their purpose to support. The hon. member for Clare made a speech about the labour rate and the financial condition of the county he represented, and concluded by moving an instruction t the committee on the bill that it be extended to England and Ireland. It was evident that the attempt of that hon. hart. was a mere party m.,ve to get up the feelings of the proprietors of this country, and se to prevent the passing of a useful anal intelligent bill. (Hear.) Ile hoped the house, befsre it adjourned, would divide on the amendment, which was nothing more than a subterfuge to gain time end defeat the object of the bill. Mr. ()ROGAN reminded the house that the bill hail been brought into the other house in Feb. last, and though it had been alvved and amended there, it appeared that various alterations were yet to be made in it by the Solicitor-General, under whose charge it was. He thought it would save time to refer the measure to a select committee, where its various details might be arranged, and then bring it forward (or the assent of the homes. (Cries of " Divide.") Sir 0. GREY suggested that the amendment should be withdrawn or negatived at once—(no, no) ; and that on the next occasion the discussion be taken on the main ques tion. (Cries of " Divide," "Go on," and " Adjourn. ') At all events, he hoped the Speaker would now uo allowed to leave the chair. (Hear, hear.) Col. DUNNE, who had before risen to address tho house, said he had no objection to the course suggested, provided it was distinctly unfit rstood that the merit., of the bill should be discussed before going into committee. (Hear, hear.) tiir L. EN refused to withdraw the amendmin., and strangers wi re ordered to withdraw, but there was no divi sion, Mr. HENLEY objecting that he and others wished to steak on the amendment, and moving that the debate be ad journed. After a few words from Mr. Mosere.t. and Mr. S Tar- Font', strangers were again ordered to withdraw, and durin.; their absence the motion for adjourning the debate was agreed to, and the house rose till . o'clock. The SPEAKER resumed the chair at a gender pasts o'clock. LEGAL EDUCATION. Mr. G. A. HAMILTON inquired from the Attorney- General whether any steps hail been taken by her Ma jesty's government or by the Inns of Court, or by the King's Inns, Dublin, to give effect to any of the recom meniltitione with respect to the improvement of legal edu cation, contained in the report of the select committee over which Mr. Wyse, late member fur Waterford, presi.led during the session of 1516. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL replied that the hon. member would concur with him that the government had no authority to int'rlere on the subject of legal education—it was a matter entirely under the control and authority of the inns of courts. With respect to what hail been done by the Society of King's Inns, Dublin, he t the Attorney-Gene ral) had no means of knowing, but he could state that the Inns of Court in this country had, during the sitting of the committee to which allusion hail been made, appointed lec turers at considerable salaries, and had since mit in confer ence at the different inns, with • view of arranging an uni form mode of leoal education in order to admission to the bar. Mr. G. A. HAMILTON begged also to inquire whether it was intended by the government to i traduce a bill by which Irish hungers might be •Juthori•ed to practise in the courts in England, and English banisters in the courts in Ireland, in which they were now competent to preside, or by which a reciprocity of practice in the profession in both countries might be established ? The ATTORNEY-UENERAL said that this was a sub ject worthy of the serious consideration of the house, and if introduced to its notice by the hou. member, he (the At torney. General) would render him every assistance in taking the sense of parliament upon it. It however was not tho intention of the government to move in the matter. DUBLIN ELECTION COMMITTEE. On the motion of Lord It. GurreENun, !cave wu given to the Dublin election committee to adjourn from to-morrow (this day) to Friday next, on account of the urgent private business of one of it)) members. TURNPIKE TRUSTS. ' • - • Mr. COLVILE inquired whether it was the intention of the right hon. baronet the Home Secretary to introduce is the present or the ensuing session of parliament any gene ral measure relative to the turnpike trusts throughout the kingdom, and, if net, whether he would allow a clause to be inserted 'n the Annual Turnpike Act to bar its operations in those districts in which local grim ances had been proved to exist ? Sir G. GREY replied that it had been his intention this session to have brought forward a general measure with re- Bret to turnpike truss. tVith regard to the second ques tion, hewn not prepared at present to give an answm, though he should be sorry to give a decided negative to such a proposition without knowing the facts on which it rested. THE KAFFIR WAR. Mr. V. SMITH asked the hon. gentleman the under secretary for the colonies whetber there had been received, and if en, whether he was prepared to lay upon the table, any report from the Cape of Good Hope relative to the expenses of the Kaffir war; and also whether there had been received a report on the general state of the Cape of Good Hop-, salt te have been prepared by Sir Henry Pottinger, the late governor, prior to his proceeding to the seat of his government at Meares. Mr. HAWES said, in reply to the first part of the ques tion, he hoped to he able to lay the report on the table in a very Short time. With regard to the second question, he hid not received any such report as that stated. WEST INDIA COLONIES. Mr. HUME intimated his intention to-morrow (this day) to ask the undersecretary for the colonies whether any de spatches had ben received by the picket of that day relating to the state of the colonies ; and whether he was prepered to supply the house with an account oldie number of lab< urea imported there from the coast of Africa during the past year. T fIE RAILWAY COMMISSION. Mr. BANKES rose pursuant to notice, to move for leave to bring in a bill to repeal the Itsilway Commission Act. Ile remarked that it had frequently been slid by more than one of the present ministry, that the Home of Commons was entirely to blame for all the extravagant expenditure which might have taken place, and therefore he (Mr. Bankes) thought it was time for the house to redeem its character, and if that accusation were true, to exercise a greater degree of 'ggilarice over the public expenditure. He was not pre pared to admit the accusation in the beotti terms in which it had been made. True it was that suggestions were often thrown out to the government which were valuable, hut the mode in which those suggeo. tions were acted upon was to be charged en tirely upon the responsibility of the government. It might be true that the supervision of railways, as ally authorised by parliament, might not have worked retie (*amity either to the companies or to the public, and it was perfectly true that the hon. member for Montrone (Mr. Hume) had recommended some change in that respect, but still that hon. member, though he made the suggestion, was not chargeable for the lavish expenditure which had been consequent upon that recommendation. At all events, sup per-nig it lad been right to make the experiment, he (Mr. Henke.) submitted that it having now been tried for two years without any benefits arising at all adequate to the enormous exnereliture to which it had led, he had a right to sub mit the proposition it was his intention to make. The original insitution of a cheek, or a guardan ship of railways by the government, was by an act passed in 1839, and that guardianship continued from 1812, to August, 1844, and during that time it was conducted at an annual charge of 1,370/. Afterwards, when railway interests bad greatly increased, it had been found necessary to give further powers to the authority already constituted in the Board of Trade ; and from 1844 there had been established an organised plan at a cost of 3,3021. per annum. This charge so remained until the year 1846, when the new board, to which he had to call attention, was created by a bill brought in at the very end of the ses sion of that 'ear. On a former occasion, the right hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer stated that the bill had met with the full and entire approbation of the house; that it met with no opposition, but was supported by . all who took part in the debate upon it. Now, on referring to the records of parliament, he found that the only discussion on the bill took place on the 21st of August, 1846, when certainly the t part of those who spoke objected to the measure ; greater u e t it c was intimated that at the then late period of the session there would be no use in going to a division, and therefore, though a division had been called for, none took place, the numbers in the house at that moment being 66 members. The bill received the royal assent on the last day of the session (the 28th of August, 1846) ; and it could not be fed 1, seeing the mode in which it had been introduced and carried, that he (Mr. Bankes), in seeking to repeal the act, was going against the deliberate de cision of parliament. He hail already shown that the cost of previous superintendence had been at the rate of 1,370/. and 3,302 i. respectively, and yet the next estimate referring to the matter which had been laid before the house, shoe-ed • charge of no less a sum than 17,0001. for a period of one year and • quarter, end in the present estimates, namely, from the bat April, 1848, to 31st March, 1849, the department was charged at 13,5221. 10s., including 2,0001. for the president. It was true the noble lord at the head of the government had said it was not his intention now to fill up the Matt office of president, but he had not understood the noble lord to state that he con sidered the office as abolished. Lord J. RUSSELL (acrosits the table) was understood to intimate that if filled up, would be without selary. Mr. BANKES.—That would make a reduction of 2,0001., which still would leave the charge at upwards of 11,0001. Now he called upon the government to justify this expense, now that the duties of the railway department had gone hack to the Board of Trade. He (Mr. Bemires) offered no excuse for again bring ing this subject under the consideration of the house. The question was of importance in an economical point of view. It had been said that but little bad been done this session by the House of Commons, and he was afraid that the charge was eenerallv but too true, but the blame rested not on his but on the other side of the house. Those on his side bad not failed in their duty. They had induced the government to depart from their proposition of a five per cent. income tax. That was something done—thi y hod also induced them torevise the expenditure, by which a reduction had been effected of 500.0001. without infr inging 'Ton the efficiency of the force' the government required, and he should be happy further to reduce the expenditure by carrying the measure he new proposed. All that the present board had done bad been to produce a blue book, containing a mass of valueless matter, which might have been compressed into 10 or 12 pages; and he defied the government to refer to a single page which could offer any ratioral opposition to the mo tion he had to submit. But the report stated that the com missioners had prepared a bill in 1847, but which had been prevented by the pressure of public business from being taken into consideration. This was not the fact. The bill had been considered, but was found to be no injudiciously framed, so grievous in its operation, not only on railway companies but upon landowners and the public generally, that it met with universal opposition and was, alter an attempt to amend it, withdrawn. Since then nothing had been done, and no other measure had been offered as the fruits of the labour of the commiasien. He therefore called upon the government to make out their ease for the continuance of a commission to discharge duties which before had been as well performed at one quarter the expense. As to the reports of the commissioners, even when, after a delay of some three or four months, p rhaps, they were presented, they made the least possible imps ession upon the house. With reference to the commissioners them selves, they might be very clever persons in their way, able lawyers, and so forth, but they had not that scientific character which could *lone give weight to their opinions. The operation of the board, in relation to the enforce ment of the various railway acts, had amounted to very little of practical importance, although this was one of the objects which government, in urging the adoption of the measure had mast earnerey insisted upon. All the real work assigned to these commis sioners might very well be transferred to the Board of Trade, and, therefore, in asking the house to repeal this particular set he was, in point of fact, only asking them to repeal the heavy expenditure it occasioned. The hon. member then moved fur lease to bring in a bill to repeal the Railway C am mission Act. Mr. LA BOUCHERE said that, although the subject was in itself of a semewhat dry nature, yet as it was also one of Much notional importance, he must detain the house for a few minutes while he replied to the hon. gentleman's speech. The hon. gentleman had applied himself to the question principally in an economical point of view. He (Mr. La houchere) valued, at least equally with the hon. member, the importance of sound economy, deeming it the duty of every government to aelreiniste r the affairs of the country entrusted to its superintendence with the utmost practicab e economy: hut there was another element in government of not less importance than economy, and this was efficiency. (Hear, hear.) Even as to economy, however, the hon. gentleman had not stated the case quite correctly, the fact being that the expense of the prment establishment was not more than 10,7001. Now, although the cost of the depart ment of the Board of Trade which used to superintend rail ways had not b, en, be believed, more than about 4,0001. per annum, it could not be suggested that, were the business of this department transferred to the Board of Trade again as suggested, the coat would now not be more than 4.0001. a year. (Hear, hear.) It was to be recollected that since that time the business of the railway department of the pub lic service had most enormously increased. He had, on a fernier occasion, given the details of this increase under its various heads la the article, for instance, of inspection of rail wst s previous to their opening, there had been •large ex• tendon of business. The number of miles ef railwayaopened in this country up to the end of 1847, was 3,SIG ; since that date 603 more had been opened, and before the else of the present year it was calculated that the number of additional miles opened would not he under 1,200. (Hear, hen.) The labours of these inspectors had been most valuable in another way, for he had reason is know t let the suggest. Cone made from time to time by the inspectors to the various c impanies—received, let him add. in a most excellent spirit by the latter—had been greatly instrumental to the tact that the number of accidents upon railways had ma terially diminished of late, aid that the safety of the lines, and the consequent security to the community, had in an equal prop otion bceu increased. (Hear, hear.) Under the head of bye-laws, of cheap trains, of miscellaneous super intendence, the duties of the officers bad also very consider ably increased. In the enforcement of the various railway acts the commission, he begged to say, had been of most useful operation, having brought to an amicable settlement many disputes which would have otherwise involved a heavy expenditure in litigation. The bon. gentleman hail suggested that lawyers were of no utility in these commissions. In reply to this proposition he begged to express his conviction that the services of eminent lawyers had been found most bene ficial upon the commission. (Hear, hear.) The acute mind and profound acquirements of Sir Edward Ryan had been applied with assiduous care to the determination of many points of high importance arising out of the disputed con struction of acts of parliament, and which none but a lawyer could have adequately decided. The character of the duties entrust .d to the committees was such that only men of the very highest attainments could properly fulfil them ; and it ,was precisely to the circumstance that under the former system gentlemen of a second order of attainments only were engaged teat be attributed the fact that under that old system those duties were not fulfilled with satisfac tion to the country. The questions referred to the railway department were not merely questions of the greatest nicety, of the greatest difficulty, requiring the highest scientific and legal knowledge for their elucidation, but they were also questions affecting to an enormous extent the property of the community, and the community therefore, it was natural to expect, would, under such circumstances, be satisfied with the decisions only of men of the highest authority. Even under the able administration of Lord Dalhousie, the deci sions of the railway department of the Board of Trade were frequently act aide by decisions of committees of that house —a circumstance clearly attributable, in hi+ opinion, to the fact that the gentlemen constituting that department under the noble lord were not of the elevated standing which could alone give weight to their judgments. In illus tration of the important jurisdiction in the hands of the commission the right hon. gentleman referred to their settlement of the broad and narrow gauge question, a bottle meet which had been distinctly cenfirmed by the legislature. As to the disregard in which the hon. gentleman stated the reports of the commission to have been held by the house, the hon. gentleman was altogether mistaken ; the fact being simply this, that the hon. gentleman had confounded the reparts of the tidal harbour commissioners with those of the railway commissioners. There had been but one in stance in which a report of the commissioners had been set aside by the house. He trusted that the house weuld not consent to the premature and unadvised preposition before them. Mr. GLADSTONE said it ras very manifest, and, in deed, admitted, that the whole idea upon which this com mission had been founded had melted away into thin air. (Hear, hear.) It therefore seemed to him that for the house to sanction the continuance of a heavy outlay upon a com mission without duties would be flying in the very teeth of that economical spirit which was just now so energetic. (Hear, hear.) As to the cost of the railway commission, after deducting the salary of the chief com missioner it amounted not merely to 10,7001. per annum, Lut to 12,0001., for the right hon. gentleman had omitted from his estimate just given that the officers were upon rising salaries, and that the engineer officers engaged received their military pay as well as their official salaries, other officers, meantime, filling their places in the engineer force. The right hon. gentleman seemed to have an indifferent opinion of the qualification of the officers who were employed under Lord Dalhousie, but the fact was that the qualifications of those gentlemen were every bit es high as those of the gentle. men now employed • the only difference was that the lattet received twice as ravels pay as the former, for doirg, in point of real 'act, much less. (Hear, hear.) General Pules., for instance—a man, he rather thought, whose qualifica tions were tolerably good—(hear, hear) —received only 8001. a year, and Sir F. Smith only 6001. a year, for the same range of services for which Capt. Alderson now received 1,2001. (hear); while Capt. Harris—an officer, let him most fully admit, of very crest merit—would have readily accepted 4001. with his military pay of 2001. as an seeistant inspector, and who now for his secretaryship re ceived 6001. a year, with hes 2001. a year pay. Capt. Mania was to be congratulated on the fortunate chance which had carried him beyond the niggard rule of Lord Dalhousie to the golden harvest of the economical ministry now in office. (tt Hear, hear," and a laugh.) As to the amount of actual business to be done, there might perhaps be a few more letters to write now, but of really difficult end delicate nego tiation there was not by any means so meth to be done now as in the time of Lord Dalhousie. (Hear, hear.) The report of the Commission itself, though clever, of course, in parts, affordedsome, in themselves, amusing illust rations of the mode in which aboard, which had comparati vel y nothing to do, could manage to put ifl an appearance of work. Ne , one whole page of the report, for instance, was occupied with the details of a street case, in which the Caledonian Railway Company had been brought to account by the immense energy of the com missioners, for having attempted to make a private in the Sappers and Miners corps pay 2d. for an extra quarter cwt. of luggage, in the shape of professional implements, which charge of 2d. the commissioners repudiate d as au extortion, and a detailed case was put to the law officers of the crown (laughter), whose grave judgment was carefully set forth in the report, the grand remit being a decree azainst the com pany. This great case would have been quietly settled under the old system, by a couple of letters between the secretary and the company. Lord J. RUSSELL said that before the house divided, he wished to state how far he agreed with the boa. and learned gentleman who had brought forward this motion, and with the right hon. gentleman the member for Oxford University. He agreed that the railway board, as at present constituted, and with its present amount of business, aria snore numerous and expensive than it perhaps ought to be ; and, unless some considerable alteration took place in the extent of its busi ness, a material reduction both in its numbers and in its cost ' must be adopted. (Hear, hear.) He did not believe, how ever, that the work could ever be done by person at a less scale of salary ; for the nature of the duties devolving on Veal board was such as to require the employment -of gentlemen of the highest etteitmlenta, who CVII.O quently required high remuneration. He did not deny that several of the gentlemen formerly engage d under me Board of Trade bad received lower salaries ; but the very fact of their high qualifications, coupl e d w i t h the tact Of their being inadequately paid, had caused the public to lose their services. lie might mention the ease of Captsh e Coddiogton, an officer of the highest efficiency, who, in coo. sequence of his being inadequately paid by the government, had transferred his services to a company who had offered him two thirds more than the goverhment paid him. Mr, Laing had also found it more advantageous to a‘aume his professional robe, and transfer his abilities to the committees, Before the house came to any decision respecting th e R e d, way Board, he thought it would be deerabl.—first, to w a in and see what were like'y to be the ultimate duties thrown upon the department ; and, secondly, to see the eviles t " taken by the committee on the miscellaneous estimates, Mr. BANKES having briefly replied, The house divided.—For the motion Against it INTERFERENCE IN FOILEIGN AFFAIRS. Mr. URQUHAItT rose to move : That in the opinion of this house interf,ence in the internal go, vernment of othercountrim is detrimental to the intertats and dem gatory to the honour of this country, IN well as to the altered. me w hon be ou c coLth .L. c .d eoun Th erief t tibnibe. practice hlrw a nieh in er t : ., rh , f n n u te , r m ee h r.u . . i i n m ia to rtN: 34 d r, coned the increame of the military and nasal s e o thereby of the public expenditure, to the great toppreorion of h er Majesty's subjects, and particularly of the elms which &Teed ' , daily labour for daily food. After referring at some length to the past policy of this country, the hon. gentleman quoted the opinion of Leed Aberdeen that interference was unlawful in support of the succession to the throne in • foreign country. It nu i n consequence of foreign interfei race that the expenditure of this country had been increased by 42 millions. An Hon. Maxima here mov , d that the house be counted. and there being only 30 members present, the house stool adjourned at a quarter before eight o'clock until noon to morrow (this day). TILE «COUNT Our " L.tsT NIGIIT.—The follow. ing member were present when th 3 House IVLIA counted oat last night, ten of the twenty nine present twine memben the government :—Russell, J.; Heine., M. ; l'al era . ton, Lord ; Hill, Lord M.; Smith, J. H. ; 13;irlo ; r, Sir F. 1.• Deni,on, J. E. ; Th e n; eon, Colonel; It H, l Somerville, Sir W. ; Ithh, H.; Brotherton, J.; 1.,e,,* G. C. ; Hudson, G. ;PI Arden, W. H. C. ; Frewen C. H• • Shell, Hight Hon. It. L ; Galway. Lad; Herbert, R. Humphrey, Alderman ; Stuart, Lord 1).; Cowper, Hon. W, • Keo g h, NV. ; IL . M.; Sir J.; Dune: Colonel ; Grey, ft. AV. ; Hume, J. ; Lrquhart, D. DCIILIN ELECTION COMMITTEE, YESTERDAY,- The committee atruek off two votes, and adjourned to Friday. Vie Orprtin. MAILS. The mails for Vigo, Oporto, Lisbon, Madeira, Cali; and Gagaltu will be made up on the morning of the 7th July. The t 1141,4 for British North America, and the United btats, will be matte up on the evening of the 7th July. The overland closed mails, vat Marseilles, to the Mediterranean, Egypt, Aden, (Wylow, India, Hong-hong, me., wi:l be mode up on the swum' al the 7th J uiy. Tue West India Mail, excluding Bermuda, Nastau, Havana, Honduras, New Orleans, Vera Cruz, Tanpico, and Porto /lico, and inclu ling thus° for Madeira, Janne!, Cart:lawn Wants Martha, Glares, Panama, West Coast of Routh Americ., and St. Jusndes Nicaragua, will be made up on the evening of the 171:1July. The overland mails lot Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the Intone Mande, Egypt, Aden, Ce)lon, Bunn, Hong-Long, and Chin:, rig Southoraps ton, will be made upon the liorniug of the 24th July. The mails for New Booth ales, Van Ditiman's Land, anal New Zealand will be made up ou the evening of Otte 314 July. The :nails for the 'Waal Can tt of Africa and Hialeira will be made wp on the eveninr of the 3lat July. The mails for the Brazils, the laver Plate, Monte Video, Penal. burns Bahia, Madeira, and Buenos Ayres, will en matte up on the evening of the 4th August. NOTICE TO ADV:a.:.TISE.RS. The number of STAMPS issued by the authorities oldie Stamp-office, during Dill, to the DAILY NEWS was 3.447.009 This, we believe, is within eight per cent of the number issued to the Morning Herald, Morning Chronicle, eel Morning Port, ALL PVT TOOETlitat. In addition to the above, issued to the DAILY NEWS, Moran,' Paper, there were issued for the hyena's? Edition, THE EXPRESS 778.714 Which was mere, we believe, than were hated (Abr. to 'ha Globe or Standard, Evening Paper.. 111100 WATEIi LW. , DON 6g1106. Tile 1)44-114.i5i64. 66 ov. paa 4. After.e66. .6 rale. par 1. SO-8101.101,MOMAIL 67 di la Mk Aftersoor. ert .pau I. LONDON,IVEDNESDAY, JULY 5. THE Proteus of the newspaper pres', the Times, is undergoing a new transformation. Tee inability of the combined ministerial and PEEL forces to get the new sugar duties carried into committee by a larger majority than fifteen—the inabili y of Mr. hRIGHT to get more than thirty-eight votes for his motion to leave the sugar duties as they are—have had their effect upon that versatile journal. Whiggery, Peeliam, free trade—all have been unceremoniously cast off, and yesterday the Vette came forth in the character of the protectionist organ. Tais metamorphosis — like that which betel the serpent Laniia in kEATES'S poem—is accompanied by strange coruscations and Delphic wailing'. The article in which the assump tion of the new character is prologuised, writhes, flashes and rumbles, like tke musical crash and blue or red flames amid which demons appear in melo dramas. The Times disdains to see in the aims of the protee tionists so miserable an object as the gain of a penny a pound in the price of sugar. It assumes the bus4in, and rants in prophetic strain about the death day of empires. The question at issue is not whether Lord JOHN ItUSSELL'd old or Lord JOHN Russene's new rates of duty on sugars, or Sir JOHN PANINO TON'S, or Mr. BAILLIE . S, or Mr. BARK.Lirtil rates are to be preferred, but whether we are to keep ear colonies or not—whether Great Britain is to remain the im perial centre of rule for its present dependencies, or subside into a second or third rate power. The Times has discovered a plot to denude Great Britain of her colonies. Those narrow-minded money-grubs, the free-traders, are at the bottom of it. "If it were our object;' says the Times, "to raise a feeling against these people, we believe it would be the easiest thing in the world ; " and accordingly the Times resolves to try. It appeals to the "heart and intelligence of the country," which it declares "are on the aide of honour against expediency." It denounces a class of poli ticians with whom it says " National power— national greatness—well-merited gratitude—recipro city of kindness--identity of blood, religion, and lan guage—community of danger, glory, successes, and losses—all these considerations go for nothing, com pared to the achievement of knocking 0a . .1 few pounds from the estimates, and a few fence from a ton of sugar." Finally, the Times apostrophises " the blood of Woi FE and the conceptions of CHATHAM,' and paints a melancholy picture of Great Britain with its tropical colonies "wrenched from our unresisting or deserted by our protecting hands," and Montreal or Cape Town " in the hands of a French, a Russian, or American commander." The simple and satisfactory reply to this tirade is, that in the first place it proceeds upon a false assump tion ; and in the second place, it has nothing to do with the question really at issue. The free-traders do not deny the importance of colonies, or wish to see the mother country stripped of these graceful accessories to empire and ileum's of in creased strength. Bat they deny that a monopoly of the home market for the products of the colonies, or of the colonial market for the manufactures of the mother country, is beneficial to either or a trust worthy bond of connexion between them. Though the writer in the Times speaks of colonies in general, his argument can only relate to the West Indies. The official value of the ex ports to all the British colonies in 1842 was 17,318,670/.; of this total, the value of the exports to the West Indies was only 3,376,521 L, or less than a third. Tho tonnage employed in the trade to all the colonies, in 1812, was 1,171,762 tons : of this the proportion engaged in the West India trade was only 453,032 ; or not much more than one fourth. Yet, with the exception of the West Indies, all our colonies are insisting upon the concession of free trade as a boon. Ou this point British North America and Australia are agreed. We may add that our East Indian territories (the trade and tonnage of which are not included in the above estimate) are also in favour of free trade. Lastly, it was the mother country's denial of free trade that mainly con tributed to alienate the affections of the old North American colonies, and occasioned that revolution which for ever severed their connexion with the empire. The free-traders do not undervalue the importance of our colonies. They arc fully aware of the conse quence of colonies. They sec in the extra-tropical colonies cities of refuge for all who in the over crowded mother country fail to find sufficiently pro , fitable investments for their capital, or sufficier-t de mand and adequate remuneration for their labour. They know that in the colonies beads and hands which here are 'unavailing to earn subsistence for their owners can acquire rapid fortunes with mode rate exfoctin. They know that Ile markets of these 'Lev( letiemettts are the mast. rapidly eztending, and priv the co im col col Bu rai 6111 rie 13r t 1.4