The Express. — London, England, 1853-07-12 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF WHIM—MONDAY, RIX IL The LORD ettliNCiLLUlltook his seat at 5 o'clock. RUMOURED ENTRY OF THE AUSTRIAN ARMY INTO BOSNIA. The Earl of MALMESBUIIY wished to ask a simple question, which he would Lot preface by any observations, sanely, whether her Maj. sty's government had received say authentic account of Om entrance of the Austrian army into 11 , Shia; and. if so, on what plea they had taken such • step? The Earl of ABERDEEN said that her Majesty's go vernment had aot received any communication whatever to that 'Ave The Earl of DERBY (who entered the house shortly after) said he understood the noble earl opposite had stated that her Majesty's government had not received any infer. motion ss to the correctness of the telegraphic despatch which had been received, intimating the entrence of the Austrian army into the Turkish province of It snia. He wished vi ask whether they l.ad received, either now or on any former occasion, any information from the Austrian minister at this court, intimating the possibility of any such event ; and, if an, on erl.at grounds it could be justified ? The E.:I of ABERDEEN—As far as direct intelligence is coacerne.l, 1 have received no such information of any sort. I hare seen it stated M various papers, but I have received no such information; and I believe my noble 'head the S •cretary of State for Furcign Affairs has not received any such intelligence. MANNINO THE NAVY. Lor.l COLCHEST Eli gave notice that on Thursday next be would ash if the government had any obj ctim to lay before the house the evidence %bleb bed been given before the a nunitter on the subj. ct of manniug the navy. PROMOTION AND IREIIIiE'MENT OF NAVAL OFFICERS. The Earl of HARD WICK E rose, pursuant to notice, to mill the attention of the house to the order in council of the 25th June, 1/411, be ,ring upon the promotion and retire ment of officers in the Navy. He was not desirous of making any alteration as to the junior officers; neither did he wish to iuterfere with the r.gulatimis as to holi.pay ; but he would cell attention to the effect produced by the order in council which regulated the Pereira. of • post captain upon active service, so a. to enntsle him to receive the rank of admiral. Ile must serve six years in time of peace. finer years in time of war, and five years in time of war ahil peace in a rated ship. That was the entire test of ability of an olLer in the navy of the upper class. The object, no doubt, was to endeavour to place on the list young, active, in telligent officers, but it woo inefficacious in pro - doeine that effect; and the injustice was this, that an officer was required to serve a certain time in a rated ship, and they did not pr ,ride such a ship for him. Is all other profession. men rose by their talents, ability, sad exertions. (Hear.) la the army no such orders in council existed; but if an officer arrived at the head of his list, he was carried on to the list of generals, and if he had his retirement it was by selection. (Ilear, hear.) And then as to the question of finance, the vmdi tioa of the half-par list, no advantage was gained by the present system the recent ov'er in council was only • repetition of an order passed in 13 . 7 ; but that order was considered, as • whole, so unjust to the service, that it was repealed. There was • remedy for many of the evils of which he complained ; and he should ask their lordships to restore a portion of the former order. This would pre went any suspicion of abuse of the governing powers. The Earl of ABERDEEN said the noble lord had made some observations on the subject of this order at the time it was made, and they were then considered by the tome. The subject was one on which much difference of opinion prevailed in the profession ; and he was not very confident as to the correctness of the view taken by the noble lord. As he had done no more than call the attention of the government to the matter, he would, without giving any pledge, or expressing any opinions, engage that his right hon. friend at the head of the Admiralty should have the subject brought under his consist. ration; and no doubt Ye would make such regulations as would give satisfacties. The Earl of HADDINGION said the subject was one of very considerable difficulty. It was much more easy to find out defects than to provide a remedy. Ile doubted whether any general registration whatever could be devised under which cams of hardship would not occur. Ile knew an officer who had served five years and some months, and was put upon the retired list. ‘Vhile abroad he commanded a sloop part ul the time, and continued to do so at the request of the Ward of Admiralty ; but he was not allowed to Count his servitude in the sloop, or he would have escaped the retired list. The noble lord cited some other in stances of hardships, the particulars of which were not heard in the gallery. Lord COLCHESTER said it was extraordinary that some officers arrived at their rank before completing their sin years, while other.oaly attained it by hard se.-vice. Earl TALBOT said that the Resent regulations gave gnat dissatisfaction to naval officers generally. After a few words from the Earl of WALDIOu.ATII, the subject drooped. TRANSPORTATION OF OFFENDERS BILL. The LORD CHANCELLOR, in moving the second reading of this bill, regretted that there was a necessity, at the pr. sent day, to introduce a bill of that description. The question was, whether fur our own social advantage, we were to persevere in getting rid of the criminal popula tion of the United Kingdom at the expense of those colonies where we had been hitherto in the habit of sending them. At present, the colony which had been our great depot for convicts, Van Dicnvn's Land, hail sig nified great riluctance to receive any more ; and the govern. ment, fur the reasons stated in the late debate, had acceded to their request. The question erase, what number could be sent to the only colony, Western Australia, which was still willing to receive them. That point ascertained, their only coarse was to determine which of those offenders whom they bad been in the habit of transporting should continue to be sent out. He thought that they should only leave as subjects for transportation, those who were now liable for fourteen years and upwards, including cases of re ceiving stolen goods, outrages, assaults on the per son, attempts to do grievous bodily harm, house breaking, burglary, cattle stealing, and matters of that sort. The only remaining question was, what should be substituted as a punishment for :the re mainder. The only effectual coons would be to par upon them who would otherwise have been transported, a sentence as little varied as possible from that which had been usual. The course had been always this : where a party was son towed for seven years, ordinarily speaking, he was impel steed for a year ; then be was sent to the public works for one or two year', either to the hulks, Dartmoor, Portland lur ked, Pembroke, or other places; and then he was seat abroad with a ticket of leave. This, unfortunately, could be done no longer. He had endeavoured to come as mar as possible to it. These who would have bees troaaproted for seven years were now to be kept in cllwrested@ for a term of f our years ; those transported . years would undergo a penal servitude of six years; those he 16, one of eight; and those above 15, one of 10 years. The bill them went on to explain that the penmen sentenced would he liable to be dealt with just as pmeons sow liable to transportation were liable to be dealt with— after their service ea the public works they were to be sent to any place either is sr oat of the kingdom, including Bermuda, Malta, or Gibraltar. The question lay in a very narrow amps'. Tee propositions were to be established —what 'umber ef convicts they could continue to send to the *denim, and how they could best deal with those who were sot so mat. He had had sae or two esenssaisations urging him to do aothi ins matter, es the ground that there were statutes is •enabling the moies sot to transport those who bad bees sentenced to traseportation. This weakd certainly enable the mown to make a solidi= ef these to be sent to the *sissies • Ant weighing the edam tails and the disedeenteeps together, it seemed to kiss a wiry scandalous thiws dist messes of transportaties should be pared era 6,ollllpesple at the various maces and as sists, when it wee well known that sot 1,000 would be wtl=s w • eig elire b of was as inconvenience trar il NINO every other that could be seg rested. Hart GRIT dad sot Mend to the second reeding, for, slamd be aellesaved is Utis that traasportation was the most ere fel t they possessed, he was bona to admit It dodged that its use, at lied to a great enlist, be disesstiased. He agreed than they ought to Wag the peesties as seedy as possible le the rigid eabiaamat af the saalansai messily we d• and thematic@ semeding of tbe kind prepoesd by and learned Mimi U.S be edephod, bemuse there wpr _sedan dos thate sia neeld stye Weep what was .tired d ee6 Is melesio. Al the same time, he hail bees greatly led that the setae and learned lard had set gives • fuller explanation of the manner In mid* her Majesty's government intended to deal with this I most Mandl of adillerat subjects ; and he felt, moreover,' id saw aim poodeismi of the bill were open to objeetioe. Wilma be (the noble earl) was Secretary of State he vents to the different colonies telling them that they scald nett permitted to rend convicts any longer to tb pool mathiments ; and he advised them, therefore, M OrrielMawe le Improve their system of secondary rtedieseate. Admipt the Mee/ores he recommended leaden for that Neese was a plan of the kind he had . ilesselbed ; sd id was adopted by the legislature of ilaeledoss. The system had been found to answer es ti wady well there, and he did not see any reason why it w•mid sot work as well in the mother country. (Hear.) lie would not trouble their lordships with any further re marAs upon the bill except so my that although he had asked many setae lords if they understood the 12th clause he had net essessed is lading one that could do so. That claws proposed to wed that maaportation should include • banishment beyond*, seas." What did that mean ? The LORD CHANCELLOR explained that the clause ba s t been inserted, bosom be had found that by the Scotch law there were some Isw offences that were punishable by " basiAisat b•ricthe seas." Lind ZIROU Grum Iffoally regretted that transportation can silent .to be la nay large degree abolished, because it endowed sia ,ey advantages which belonged to no other eseesdafy rai,hment whatever. He thought there was a iii,;;Tessa ei Kni ,:d muse in the recommendation of the noble end (Lend Grs7). and that some such modification as the noble sod had dersesitiftd ought to be introduced into the plan b. thecoverentent. The DuG - ifittIICASTLB , in common with other noble lords who had spoket: t ,r d .....ity of reducing the punishment of transportation to its minimum. lie con curred with them in the advantage of the present system.' There teemed, however, to be as agredneat on all hands that out of regard to our colonies it was necessary tea federal this punishment. He hoped that out of this evil good might yet coat. , for he could not help thinkiag that, with the cessation of tramvirtation to the extent to which it was now carried, the government slid the whole inhabiiants of the ceuntre would turn their attention to the improvement of our penal system. He did not anticipate that this bill now on the table would be by any means the last that would be brought in on the subject. The noble earl of jeeted to limiting the term of transportation. Tate reason was twofold. In the first place, those who had watched the progress of penal servitude, as it was called by this bill, were of opinion that the time now allotted would lie too great for the endurance of criminals, and would be a much hirin;er amount of punishment than that for which it was substituted. lu the seciind place, as their lordships were aware, sentences of seven years' transportation hail not been ordinarily carried into (tree', but the Con victs had been liberated after three years' pun ishment. Two years was the minimum, but three years was the ge. It was proposed by this bill to award four years, which was in effect a year longer than a nominal seven years' transportation. At the tame time it was worthy of consideration whether they should not in the first instance awed a heavier punishment, with a power to the executive to short( n the period as a reward for guu t conduct. Another suggestion by the noble earl was whether the ticket of leave sys•em, which bad worked so well in the relnuies, might not work well its this country. The attention of wiverumeur had been turned to that point, and his noble friend on the woolsack wouid make a proposition respecting it on going into committee. One difficulty was whether the convicts should have tickets of leave given them to live under surveillance in any part of the country, or whether they should be per mitted themselves to select their residence in any part of the roman), or in any particular county or district. That was under consideration. l'ublic works which were now going on, defensive works sod harbours of refuge, facilitated a measure of that kind. His noble friend (Earl Orey) asked what was proposed to be dine with regard to those criminals who had already been sen tenced to transportation, and to whom promise bad been made by announcements bung up in the prisons, that they should be sent to the colonies with ticki.to of leave. He thought his noble friend at the head of the goveranseat had already answered the quotion, but he would repeat. that if this bill passed in the form in which it iw stood. ! they would suffer no longer punishment in the prison thaw was pmeillcd to future prisoners. That would apply °sly to culprits in the prison to whom promises had been made. They had accumulated, but were no longer increasing, as the promisi s se. re withdrawn as loon as it was ascertained that the punishment of transportatian was to cease. With regard to the capability of the prisons to held an increased number of prisoners, he apprehended there would be no difficulty, and that it would not be necessary to incur any expense before parliament met next year. Lord CAMPBELL cordially supported the second read ing of the bill. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE hoped that there would be some cl statement as to what was to be done with the convicts to whom promises had been made, because he understood that from SOO to 1,200 would be let loose upon society in this country. The bill was then read a second time. CHANCERY SUITORS RELIEF BILL. This bill pawed through committee. SAVINGS BANKS ANNUITY BILL. The holm went into committee on this bill. The clauses Were agreed to after a brief eonvetsation, in which Earl Powir, Earl Granville, ar.tl the Lord Chen efillor took part, and the house having resumed, the bill was reported forthwith. The Bishop of OXFORD pry seated a petition from Banff praying till ir lordships to reconsider the laws respecting Scotch ordinations. Their lordships then adjourned at a quarter put eight o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAY, JULY 11. The Seiminft took the chair at 2 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' Amendments to the South Eutem Railway (North Kent Railway to the Thames, &c.) Bill, and Wild more Fen, sod East and West Fens Highways Bill were considered and agreed to. The Chard Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. The following bills were considered and ordered to be read • third time, sm. —Eastern Union Railway ; Warrington and Altrincham Junction Railway (Warrington, &c.) ; Westminster Improvements (Dwellings of the Working Classes). Hall Dares Estate Bill, and the Sneed Park Estate Bill were read a second time, and ordered to be committed. NEW MEMBERS. Mr. IloitsraLL and Mr. LIDDELL took the oaths and t►eir seats for Liverpool. The honourable gentlemen, who were introduced by Lord John Manners, Alderman Thomp son, and others, were received with cheers from the opposi tion benches. THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, JULY l2, 1853. RETORTED AUSTRIAN OCCUPATION Or BOSNIA. Mr. DISRAELI—The other question I have to ask the noble lord is—has her Majesty's government received any official intimation as to the reported occupation of Bosnia by the army of Austria? Lord J. RUSSELL—NO, we have not received any official intimation of that nature, and, indeed, the Austrian minister has communicated to Lord Clarendon his total disbelief of sny such fact having occurred. (Mar.) lie says he believes that the report has been owing to the occu pation, by Austrian troops, of Petcrwartulin„ which is a forti fied town within the Austrian territory. (Hear.) THE INDIA BILL. The house then pent into committee on tbie bill. On clause Mr. V. SMITII moved to omit in the clause the words " It shall be lawful fur her Majesty by warrant under the sign manual to appoint," in order to substitute the words " The Court of Directors by the consent of her M jetty under her royal sign manual, couuteniige , rd by the Presi dent of the Board of Control. to appoint, &c. Sir C. WOOD thought it would be more convenient for the committee to avoid a general discus-ion on the past government of Indio, and other topics introduced by his right hon. friend, which did nut bear on the precise goes lion raised, and to which he proposed to confine himself. They had agreed that the double government should be maintained, and all that they had to decide was in what shape certain persons should enter the Court of Directors. Another point bad been agreed on, namely, that by some other means than election by the Court of Proprietors a sec tain portion of the future court should he introduced into it. The evidence that had been received went strongly to point but a great defect in the constitution of the Court of Directors, namely, that the ablest men—men of the highest character and experience among Indian servants—were de. terred by the arduous and expensive system of canvassing from Ofs ring themselves as candidates for the direction; and it was apparent, from the concurrent evidence of many witnesses, that, by some means or ether, a portion of the court should be selected from such men. In order to sim plify the question, he would concede that one-third of the court should be introduced either by selection or nomina tion, and the question was, whether it should be done by ea a selection as was proposed by his right hen. friend, ST by nomination by the crown. His right hon. friend had raised an objection to the moue adopted by the government on the ground that the persons to be ap puinted were mere Domino. s. It was not until after greet. deliberation, that it was decided to adopt that plan. If the Court of Directors were to be independent, it was the in terest of the government to make them so. They might be wrong in the mode of doing that they had adopted. He admitted it was a fair subject fur discussion, but he still thought that the plan chosen by the Government was the hest calculated to preserve the independence of the court. Mr. BERRIES was understood to say that he found his own views on this point very accurately expressed in the amendment, which he would accordingly support, rejoicing that the opposition to this part of the government plan was initiated on the ministerial side of the house. Mr. LOWE trusted he would be able to answer the oh jcetions of tie right hon. gentleman. He could assure him that the course before the house had not been hastily adopted by the government, and that if that course were an erroneous one, it was one which bad been come to after most mature consid:ration. Having said thus much he would next address himself to the arguments of the right hon. member for Northampton (Mr. Vernon Smith.) It was admitted, arid indeed proved by an immense mass of evidence, that there was a great evil in the present , leetion of the Court of Directors of the East India Company which it was the duty of that house to remove. The evil was this, although the directors elected were pares negaliis, yet there were many very eminent men anxious for a seat in the direction, and whose presence would be a great advobtage, who nevertheless would not undergo the risk and humility of a canvass. Now it was felt by all parties that the power of the Court of Directors was one thing and that of the Board of Control another; that the power of the Board of Control consisted in a power delegated by law, whereas the power of the Court of Directors consisted in the force of their reasoning and the weight of the authority of their opinions. The one was of an intellectual, the other of &material character, and thus the two could work together. Independent, in cue sense, the court could not be, because its opinions were liable to the supervision of the Board of Control. In another sense, the court was independent; namely, in compelling an assent from ministers, by the weight of its experience, to matters which by law it could not otherwise control. Ia this latter sense, the government measure woul I tend to increase the influence of the Court of Directors, by intro ducing into its body men of authority, position, and expe rience. Every such person admitted would be an additional weight, and inatcadfof tending to the destructionof the power of the Court of Directors it would increase their power; for the Board of Control could not but respect the opinions of a body numbering amongst its members men so greatly re spected. The hon. member for Northampton was so evi dently sincere that it could not be doubted but that he thought, by his amendment, that he was taking the power out of the hands of the Crown, and placing it in those of the directors, but experience would show that the reverse would be the come. At present there were three classes of offices, who were placed in the same situation as the amend ment would place the nominated directors. There was the Oovernor-General, four members of council, and the chiefs of inferior presidencies. All these were appointed by the Board of Directors subject to the moment of the Crown. What had been the result of this ? Why all these appointments had virtually become nomina tions of the crown, notwithstanding that the act provided that they should be appointed by the directors. The crown had stretched its authority to such purpose that these ap pointments were really its own, and the system had been totally reversed ; instead of the directors appointing and the crown consenting, the Board of Control suggested to the Court of Directors the names of the officers, and thus the veto was with the court instead of the crown. Would not, then, the same results be likely to follow under similar circumstances, and thus the only effect of the right hon. gentleman's amendment would be to place the same power as the government proposed to do in the hands of the President of the Board of Control, without rendering him personally responsible for his selec tion of directors. It certainly seemed to him (Mr. Lowe) that, reasoning from analogy, no other result would follow from the amendment. (Hear, hear.) But he was willing to argue the question on the right hon. gentleman's own grounds. He (Mr. Lowe) would take it that he was mis taken, and that the President would leave the directors to appoint. If that were so, then the authority of the Board of Control would be wholly of a minor kind, and must be left out of consideration in argument. Now it would never occur to any one to suppose that the directors would appoint any one so grossly improper that it would be necessary for some power to be exercised to keep out their appointee ; no one who knew anything of the administration of the Court of Directors would sumac them capable of such a thing. Tho evil to be remedied was the non-appointment of eminent men. How would a veto to the Board of Control enable it to appoint such men I The Crown might say to the Court of Directors, " nominate such a one, for no ~then will be approved ;" but this would vir tually deprive the court of its power of nomination. But putting aside the power of the Crown altogether, let the house consider the effect of this amendment as regarded the constitution of the court itself. Even under the present system it had been a subject of complaint that the board et directors had too much influence over the election of its members; yet it could not be said that it amounted to self election, although it tended that way. Thus under the amendment of the right hon. gentleman a member of the court of directors would be elected under a system which nearly amounted to self election, and the remainder would be, as it were, self elected. Nothing bad such a tendency to warp and disturb the judgment as that system. It has been said that the nominees as proposed by the government will be directly under the influence of the crown. But the method is which Indian business was arranged, their votes and proceedings, need n be known, unless they chose it themselves. The true question was, how to obtain for India the services of those who, from their position and experience, would be best able to govern it. Now indivi duals who were in the decline of life, and who had secured a reputation, were naturally very unwilling to submit to the mercies of an election, but nevertheless they might be very willing to receive a position by appointment from the crown, that appointment being conferred on them in conse quence of their merit and ability. He (Mr. Lowe) had been taunted because he had supported' system of nominees for India, while he had opposed it in the Monies. But the two noes were perfectly dissimilar, and in supporting the pion proposed in this bill, he (Mr. Lowe) was not acting in contradiction to any opinion which he had ever expressed on the subject of nounneeship in the colonies. (Hear.) Mr. ELLIOT did not think that the hon. gentleman (Mr. Lowe) had made out a case to show that the system proposed by government would render the Board of Direc ton ,more independent, or its opinion of more authority than at the present moment. Lord STANLEY said that the committee ought to con fine itself to the question immediately before it—that ques tion being whether the plan of the government or the plan of the right hon. gentleman was best calculated to secure the most efficient and independent men on the Board of Directors. The plan of the right hon. gentleman was that of self election, for which there was no precedent. His objection to that plan was that it tended to give perms. Deuce if not perpetuity to that very system which it was the object of the bill to do away with. Neither did he altogether approve of the government plan, and he thought that, without trenching on the principle on which it was founded, it was susceptible of improvement. When these members were appointed by the crown, and had seats in that house, they would become, he would not say the tools, but the allies of the government. Now he thought that if these directors were appointed fur a term of ten or twelve years, and were not re-eligible at the end of that period, they would have a sufficient guarantee for their in dependence. (Hear.) He offered this as an improvement on the plan of the government, which, however, he would support in preference to the plan of the right hon. gentle man. (Hear.) Mr. HUME said he should vote for the principle of elec deo in preference to the principle of nomination, whichthe was ale , nether opposed to ; but the election which he should prefer was that kind of election by which the East India Gempany had been and was now maintained. (Hear,) sir J. HOOO said it appeared to him that the house was agreed as to the expediency of 'election which was the principle of the bill. He was sure the sole object of the government and of the committee was to have those gen tlemen in the Court of Directors who could give the best information on India, and who were best qualified to dis charge their duties. They must either give the selection to the crown, or to the Court of Directors. If they gave it to the crown what gentlemen would be candidates for the ' otfle ? Every gentlemen who thought himself fit for the appointment would pat himself forward as one of the six to be selected. And they would thus narrow and deterio rate the class of men who would come forward as candidates. (Hear.) As far as his experience of the Court of Directors went, it did not at all accord with the opinions of those persons who expressed so great a horror of the system of confusing. (Hear, Lear.) Did not the memhen of that house, who spoke of not condescending to canvass, go about themselves at every election to canvass for votes? (Hear, hear) And there was this distinction in favour of the Court of Directors, that when a member was once elected and discharged his duties with ability, efficiency, and honour, he was elected for life. (Hear, hear.) He could only say for himself and for his colleagues on the board, that if there had been anything dishonourable or hu miliating in the canvass, neither he nor they would have condescended to it. (Hear, hear.) It appeared to him that there were strong objections to the plan of the government and also to the plan of the right hon. gentleman, and it was for the committee to de termine on which side the balance of advantage lay. Against the nomination by the crown of the six directors the objection was urged, and with some weight, that those di.ectors would be under the influence of the feeling that they were so nominated in the discharge of their duties. But for himself, he felt bound to say that he entertained no such apprehension. He believed that those gentlemen who hid passed their lives in the civil or military service of India, would, when appointed to a seat in the direction, discharge their duties there honourably, independently, and uniefluenced by any consideration of the persons who ap pointed them. (Hear) He thought that the suggestion of the noble lord (Stanley) would make the proposition of the government worse than it was, be-canse it would exclude those gentlemen from being re-eligible when, from the rxperience they had acquired, their services would be most useful and beneficial. (Hear, hear.) He understood the noble lord to say also that he would exclude those gentle. men from sitting in that house, but he did not think that the government or the committee would ever support a scheme of that kind. He admitted that the principle of self election was also liable to objection, but the Court of Directors must at all events have a better knowledge of the men who were most fit to be appointed than the President of the Board of Control could possibly have. (Hear, hear.) But whether the appointment rested with the one or the other, he had no fears on the subject of the practical work ing of the plan. It was said it was desirable to have such men as Lord Metcalfe and Mountstuert Elphinstone in the board of direction. To be sure it wu, and he had no doubt that if either of those gentlemen expressed a wish to be members, they would be elected without canvass on the next vacancy that occurred. (Hear, hear.) But such men as Lord Metcalfe and Mountstuert Elphinstone were not to be picked like blackberries. Sir G. Clerk, who was a man of great talent and distinguished services in India, stated before the committee that it had been intimated to him that if be wished he might be elected to the Court of Directors without a canvass. Heretofore the Court of Directors had been regarded as the fountain of all honours, at least of all appointments, and all the ser vants of the company looked up to them on that account. Bnt what would be the can now, when the Court of Direc tor* were themselves partly condemned by having some of their numbers curtailed. (Hear, hear.) They were ex. eluded from all the nominations to the higher offices. (Hear, bear.) In the civil service the appointments were to be made by public competition. (Hear, hear.) It was the same with regard to the medical appointments. With re gard to scientific appointments in the engineers and artillery these were not made by the Court of Directors. With re ward to Addiscombe, the pupils there underwent a half )early examination and were appointed according to merit. The great mass of youths who had attained the stan dard which fitted them for the artillery went out as cadets—not as direct cadets but as infantry cadets — and with the advantage of a good education. For his own part he confined that he wished to see Addisoombe extended; he wished to see a greater number of young men proceed to India with the advantages of a superior education. tinder the bill the whole of their prestige was taken from the Court of Directors, all their patronage was transferred to other hands, and the govern ment appeared desirous to make the situation of director as little as possible an object of ambition or solicitation. He would urge the government to make the office of director as important as they could. A salary of 6001. a year was not half so much as one given to a com missioner of customs or excise; and he did hope that either by position, by influence, or by salary—by some means or other, the office of director would be made an object of honourable ambition to eminent men who had re turned from India. _ _ Mr. C. BRUCE said it appeared to him that there was no clause in the bill which would lead more directly or more distinctly to the extinction of the Court of Directors, and of the system of government which had hitherto pre served India to this country, than the clause then under consideration. Mr. PHILLIMORE said he should, vote for the clause, as he preferred directors nominated by the Crown to a body entirely elected by the Court of Proprietors. Mr. - MAJORIBANKS alluded to the recent election, and cited Lord Ellenborough as an authority for infusing into the board some exclusively English feeling. Mr. PHILLIMORE explained that he had not cited the ease with a view of insinuating the unfitness of Mr. Majori banks, the successful candidate. Mr. T. BARING admitted that the present mode of canvassing was an impediment to the appointment of gen tlemen who had spent the greatest portion of their lives in India, and if the clause had only in view the remedying of that evil, he should not have objected to it, but in his opi nion its main object was to strengthen the Board of Con trol, in a direction in which it bad never been considered desirable that department should be strengthened. Sir J. GRAHAM said that the government had no ob. ject in view but that of securing the ablest and best men for the Board of Directors. It was their sincere desire to take ample security for the independence of that body, which was to exercise no direct, hut certainly a great moral influence over the government of India, by reason of the intimate knowledge its members would have of the affairs of that country. (Hear, hear.) He anticipated from the proposition none of those evils which had been urged against it on the other side ; but, on the contrary, he was decidedly of opinion that, as compared with the system of self-election, the proposal of the government was much freer from objection. Mr. BRIGHT said that unless it could be shown that there would be no party spirit in 1874—that the patronage would be banished from the hands of the ministers—the l arguments used against the motion would be as strong then as now, and it was as open in 1863 to have a consultative council and a responsible minister as it would be in 1874. (Hear, hear.) He thought the right hon. member for Northampton had placed himself in the worst possible posi tion by the amendment he proposed. Objectionable as he considered that bill, the amendment would make it far more unsatisfactory than it was now. Mr. NEWDEGATE considered that the direct action of the clause was to undermine the principle of double go vernment, and after the declaration of the right hon. baron, t that the double govetnment might possibly cease Wore 1874, he did not see how any one who was favourable to that principle could vote for the government proposition. Mr. MANOLZS and Mr. HILDTARD opposed the clause. The committee then divided : For the amendment Against it 193-82 Sir H. WILLOUGHBY moved the insertion of the fol lowing words:—" Teat on or before the first Wednesday in April, 18.54, the 15 directors hereafter appointed to meet and act as the Court of Directors, shall prepare a list of 12 per sons whom they shall deem best qualified to act as directors, and who shall have had 20 years, at least, in the service of the Crown in India, or in the service of the said company in India; and it shall be lawful for her Majesty, out of the said list of 12 persons," Le. Sir C. WOOD said this proposal was very objectionable. It narrowed the choice of the Crown, by requiring 20, in stead of 10 years service in India, which would exclude judges of the supreme courts, and many civil and military officers. The list once formed, it would be kept permanently full by the directors. He objected to the term of 20 years, and to the keeping • permanent list, which might be filled with persons worn out by age. After a few words from Mr. Holtz, Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said the right hon. gentleman had only excepted to the details of the amendment ; would he accept the principle of it ? Mr. T. BARING said the last division of the committee showed that they supported the views of the government as to the appointment of the six directors resting with the crown. Having done that, it was their duty to take all precautions to prevent that patronage being made available fur parlia mentary purposes. It was desirable that words should be inserted in the clause providing that those persons should not have quitted the Indian service for more than five years. The amendment was then negatived. On the proposition to fill up the blank before the word "yeah" with the word " two," Mr. RICH moved, as an amendment, that the word " three" be inserted. He urged that the number of years should be 3, 6. end 9, instead of 2,4, and 6. Sir C. WOOD contended that if that was done es re garded the nominated directors, it must be extended to those who were elected, and as the time for the service of those directors was now four years, it would be, in fact, doubling the time, which, by the bill, was already extended to six years. Mr. BRIGHT objected to a short term of service, on the ground that as it now stood the director' were eligible for re-election, and there was a subsequent clause, making them eligible for seats in that house. Ile thought that would tend to destroy their independence both in the direction and in that house. If a director was elected for eight years and positively not eligible fur re-election during that period, he would be as independent of the government as he should be, and if he was a member of that house he would have no temptation as he came near the end of his time to be more assiduous to the Treasury Bench. He thought that East India directors had a strong leaning towards the Treasury Bench, and he hail recently noticed an increasing affection between' East India directors and the President of the Board of Control, and he was not certain if the bill passed as it was whether they would have those members of the house more independent. If the clause remained as it was, making the terms of service two, four, and six year., then he should move the expulsion of the clause which allowed the nominee directors seats in parlia ment, for unless they were excluded on Indian questions they should not only have the President of the Board of Control and the member for Honker' to contend with, but would be trebled, ucd members would be borne down by the accumulated evidence of persons all interested in the same transactions and equally desirous of smothering the truth. It would be better to have the service terminable at the end of ten years, without any power of re-eleotion. Perhaps the government would agree ii to postpone the clause and consider the point. Sir J. \V. HOGG complained that the hon. member for Manchester never rose to speak in that house without being personal. He had never known en occasion on which the hon. member rose without being personal and offensive. He called on the hon. member to explain what he meant with regard to the member for Honiton and his leaning towards the treasury b , nch. He would tell the hon. member that his (Sir J. W. Hogg's) conduct in parliament was as honest and as indenendeat as his own, and he had had opportunities which the hon. member for Manchester had not for evincing that independence, sod showing that Ifs could make personal sacrifices when he thought they were consistent with the interests of India. He had never before stated this publicly. His attention had been called to the remarks of the hon. member on a former occasion, and he appeared to have something on his mind which he did not give utterance to. lie would tell the hon. member that he (Sir J. lingg) was not devoid o: that ambition which caused men to aspire to the dignity of office, nor did he ;intend to be such a Puritan as to be indifferent to its emoluments. But he could say, that nine years ago he was sent for by Sir Ho bert Peel, and offered offic. , , high as regarded both rank and emoluments, and including the enrolment of his name among her Majesty's Privy Council. Ile was proud of such an honour coming from such a 11111.—(cheers) — and he pledged his honour that it was offered without solicitatios on his part. He, however, declined, because he hail just been appointed Chairman of the Emit IndiaCon;pany. He did not doubt that his colleagues would have had confidence in his independence, but he preferred' ' avoiding even the appearance of hazarding that independence. It was at the time of the Sikh war, and had he been only a director, he should have g!adly accepted the office offer. d to him ; but, as it was, he would not abandon his colleagues in such circumstances, . and he intimated to S:r It.ibert Peel that he could not t accept it consistently with his feeling or duty towards India. I He pledged his honour that he had never mentioned to one r of his colleagues that the offi r hail been made to him, and f not to more than two or three living had he ever mentioned ! it, though any one might have been proud of such an offer, t whether es regarded itself, or with reference to the man 1 ) who made it. (Cheers.) He hoped he might be pardoned s fcr trespassing on the house, but he thought he might be • excused under the eircums.anci s. (Cheers.) Mr. BRIGHT—The honourab:e member had referred to something which had occurred on a former debate, and he ' seemed to think that he (Mr. Bright) had not shown a readiness to say what he thought. He (Mr. Bright) be lieved he geaerally raid what he thought. (Hear, and a laugh). He certainly did allude to the hon. gentleman, and to his ambition. He did not blame him for his ambi tion, as he believed that many men would not do so much public good if they did not possess ambition. With regard to what he (Mr. Bright) had said to-night—he meant nothing offensive. He was perhaps not sufficiently regard ful of the feelings of the directors in the delicate position in which they were placed, but he would take care for the future not to wound them on a tender point. (Laughter.) Lord STANLEY was understood to support the amend ment. After some further conversation, the amendment was withdrawn. Mr. T. BARING moved the insertion, after the words • • "or the service of the said company There," the w,rds " and shall not have quitted such service fur more than the space of five years." His object was to ensure that succes sion of new blood which they had been told was desirable. Sir C. WOOD suggested that the amendment would limit the choice of the crown too much, and th it it might in fact prevent the appointment of the most valuable men. Viscount JOCELYN also objected to the amendment, on the same ground. Mr. BARING then withdrew the amendment. Mr. BRIGHT moved the omission of the last two lines of the clause, which rendered it necessary for the crown nominees to possess the same qualification as the elects(' directors. He had been told of a case in which a very dis tinguished officer, a gentleman who was likely to be ap pointed, would have found it very inconvenient to purchase the necessary amount of stock. Sir T. H. MADDOCK perfectly agreed with the hon. member. . . Sir C. WOOD said the only object of the provision was to assimilate all the members of the board. It was very desirable also that the nominees should be directly as inte rested as the other directors in the welfare of the company. Mr. BOWYER admitted that the qualification would produce a community of interest between the two classes of directors ; but it would be a bad argument if it was the only argument in favour of the pima that faithfulness to Indian interests, was only to be obtained by direct pecuniary consi derations of this soft. (Hear, hear.) The plan was bared on the presumption that high and independent character was to he obtained by the Crown for the service of the company, irrespective of such considerations. On that ground he would support the amendment. The CHAIRMAN asked, would Mr. Bright divide? Mr. BRIGHT was anxious the Pre:tdent of the Board of Control should further consideg this point. He (Mr. Bright) had heard no argument against the amendment. The qualification for nominees was a mere puerile form—a blunder; and now that it was pointed out, the right hon. gentleman should give way. (Cheers.) The beet of the Indian "eremite, at this day, came home without fortunes, with nothing but their pensions to live on ; and, under this bill, such men could only get seats from the crown by going into debt for qualification. (Cheers.) Lord J. RUSSELL admitted that there was great weight in what the hon. member for Manchester had said. (Loud cheers.) He (Lord J. Russel) should have been glad if the house generally had expressed its opinion on the point; but as matters stood, he thought there was reason for adopting the hon. member's suggestion. (Loud cheers.) Mr. DISRAELI was glad the noble lord saw the matter in that light. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) Nothing was more absurd than to create without an object a facti tious property qualification, and that was what the right hon. gentlemen was proposing to be dune. (Hear, hear.) lie hoped the committee would therefore agree that these words should be excluded. (Hear, hear.) The amendment was then agreed to. Mr. lIUME hoped that as the amendment had been adopted the right hon. gentleman would propose to get rid of the qualifications of the other directors. ("Hear, hear," and laughter.) Sir 11. MADDOCK would undertake that the hon. mem ber should hear some proposal of that sort. Mr. BOWYER thought the hon. member for Montrose was wrong in supposing that there would he an inconsis tency in having a qualification for the elected class of di rectors. No doubt, however, all qualifications of this sort were unwise, as, for instance, in that house, where the Scotch members were not the least useful members. (question.) Clause 3 (as amended) was then agreed to. Mr. BRIGHT hoped, at this point, that the chairman would be permitted to report progress. Sir C. WOOD—Let us go on with the unopposed clauses. Mr. BRIGHT—Oh, nonsense ! They must all be dis cussed. Some conversation tcok place, but at Sir C. WOOD'S en- Clause 4 was taken. Sir J. HOGG suggested lira as by this clause the number of directors was to be reduced, the government ought itself to undertake the invidious duty of pointing out which of the present directors should be gut rid of, and which should be retained. (Hear, hear.) Mr. DISRAELI hail no doubt the government would feel indebted to the hon. baronet for the suggestion, for if lit was agreed to, then the government would, of course, retain those gentlemen who happened to sit on its own side of the house; and practically the government would thus increase the number of its nominee directors. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BRIGHT—Of course. The only way would be to leave the proprietors themselves to settle the matter. If he were the member for Honiton, he should move an amend ment that the directors to remain be elected by the pro prietors. The blank was then filled up with fifteen." Mr. OTWAY said the hon. member for Honiton bad not given an answer to the question of the hon. member for Manchester. He had no confidence in the elections of the directors. An instance bad occurred lately in which the directors had supported a candidate as director who had never been in India in preference to one who had been there 24 years. Sir J. W. HOGG said the Governor-General and most of the public officers of India were of opinion that all the directors should not be men who bad been in India. For years they had only had one individual elected who had net been in India, and the time had come when they ought to select one who had not been in India. Besides, Mr. Majoribanks had no occupation save that of East India director, and by birth, talent, and fortune, he was emi nently qualified. After a few obaervatioas from Mr. Irma, the clause, as amenaed, was agreed to. The house then resumed, and the Chairman reported progress. Sir C. WOOD said he proposed to go on with the bill after the Legacy Duties Bill en Thursday, and then on Friday, STAMP DUTIES (No. 1) BILL. This bill was read a third time and paned. BRECON COLLEGIATE CHURCH BILL. - - • - • Thisbill was read a third time and passed. LAND REVENUES BILL. This hill wa read a third time and passed. COINAGE OFFICES (COLONIES) BILL. This bill passed through committee. COPIES OF SPECIFICATIONS REPEAL BILL. On the order of the day for going into committee on this bill, Mr. COWAN objected to the provision which allows du plicates only of specifications to be sent to Edinburgh and Dahlin from the London office, and said the patentees ought to deposit originals. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he•only proposed to go into committee pro forma, in order that numerous alters might be printed. Ile found that the course he in tended to pursue would cost the patentee 30/., while dupli cates might he sent from the office here for as many shillings. Mr. %VIIITESIDE said the bill of last year was scarcely passed but it w.is systematically evaded. Not ens specifi ' cation was sent to Dublin. The bill as it now stood was unintelligible, and it was utterly impossible to carry it into operation. He should oppose the bill at every stage. I Mr. HOU VERIE observed that it was unusual to object I to a bill going into committee pm /Or ma. Col. DUNNE objected to sending to Ireland ;copies which were not legal' evidence in courts of justice. Ile had no wish to impede the natter, hut he strongly objected to the principle of centralization which characterised the bill. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said there was a clause ia the act which he thought would obviate that difficulty. Mr. DUNLOP complained that ihe hill had atondover m long. Ile had come down there night utter night. mer e ! to Ice it put off .i cnntinually. After a feei words from Mr. De Mr. ASI6LLE IT said that he hut stu - dentood that duph efoc copier ..f the Went were to be lodged in each country, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that one of the ob. jectr of the bill suuld be to make copier of specifications lodged at Dublin or Edinburgh, evidence of a want. The bill then passed through committee. GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH (No. 3) BILL. Ou the moti.of that the Spt .ther do leave the chair, Sir G. PECHELL °fleeted to the house going into cora , mittee at that time (10 minutes past 1). — Vi; W. MOLESWORTII hoped that the bon. gcn.lrman would not oppose this hill ; its objec; was only to tvehd to certain towns, which dtsired it, local self•g , %ernmrnt in sanitity matters. if it was postpomd until tomorrow it would come on at as late an hour. Colonel HARCOURT emulilaMed that this act was ap. plied to the town of Ityde, although it had lwen mid( mess% that the order of the Board of health was not to extend to that place. It h.id heen distinctly settled between the au. thorities of the borough and the hoard that ite orders viers not to extend to ltyde, and that settlement had not been acted up to. This was a fact that should nut be lost sight of when the time for renewing the commission of the board came round. . . . Mr. GEACII tail it was a mistake to suppose that be. cause a town council had voted iu faruur of this bill, the borough which elected the c•tuncil was favourable to it also. lie thought this bill ought not to be pressed on at that late hour, when the parties interested in it could have no opportuni'y of making their wishes known, sad be hoped the house would not ander the bill to be committed to night. Mr. HALSEY also resisted the Emtion for going int, committee, and informed the house that the town of Merl• ford, which was included in thi. bill, did not wish Inc t►a interference of the Board of 14. alth. Mr. COWPER, on the other hand, as one of the repro. sentatives for Hertford, declur d that the majority of the inhabitants were decilidly in favour of the application's( tke Health Act to their town. - The house theta went into committee on the hill, and 'he clauses were :greed to, Yeovil being struck out, afttr winch the house resumed. DUBLIN PARLIAMENTARY REGISTRATION. The house is committee agreed to a resolution pcpritliag for the payment of the barristers of this court. CANTERBURY ELECTION, Mr. K. SENMEIt ruse to move th. further suspension of the Canterbury a tit until the 20th instant. The Canterbury Commission had eoircluded their inquiry, and be apprehended Carle report would be in the hands of members in a very short timc. He begged, therefore, to state the course which he intend, d to pursue in this matter On the 29th, he should ask the nohl • lord the member ter the City of London, whether it was the intentio n of the go vernment to bring forww d and carry through parliament any measure affecting the seat fur Canterbury, and thould the noble lord answer in the affirmative, he should be pre pared to move the further suspension of the writ; but, should the noble lord's reply be in the negative, it was his intention to move the immediate issue of the writ. The motion was then agreed to. BETTING HOUSES. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved for leave to bring in a bill fur the suppres ion of betting houses, and in doing 59 he said it was not neceseury for him to make any length ened statement upon the .subject, as the evils which had arisen from the introduction of these:establishments were perfectly non rious and acknowledged upon all hands. (Hear, hea•.) The difficulty, however, which arose in legislating upon this subject was to be found in the di•inclination which was felt against interfer ing with that description of betting which had so long existed in connexion with the great national sport of horse racing, but these establishments assumed a totally different aspect to that, while the letting which they carried on was of a perfectly different nature, and based upon an entireiy different system. (Hear, hear.) The object then of this bill was to suppress them without interfering with that legitimate species of betting to which he had referred, and prevent persons from opening houses or booths for the purpose of betting. The keepers of such objectionable establishments, besting as they did with all corners, were distinguishable from places like attersall'e, where the betting was carried on with no person in particular, 'because they kept banks against all comer-, and it was upon that distinction that the present legislation would be founded. (Hear, hear.) It would prohibit the opening of houses, or shops, or booths for the purpose of betting, and inasmuch as it appeared that the mischief of the existingvicious system seemed to arise from the advancing of money in the first instance with the expectations of receiving a larger sum on the completion of a certain event, it was proposed to pro hibit the practice by distinct lrgi lative enactment. (Hear, hear.) The mischief arising from the existence of these betting gimps were perfectly notorious. Servants, apprentices, and workmen, induced by the temptation of receiving a large sum for a small one, take their few shil lings to there places, and the first effect of their losing was to tempt them to go on spending their money, in the hope of retrieving their losses; and t'or this purpose it not *in frequently happened that they were driven into robbing their masters and employers. (Hear.) lhere was not a prison or a house of correction in London which did net every day furnish abundant and conclusive testimony of the vast number of youths who were led into crime by the temptation of these establishments, of which there were from WO to lilt/ in the metropolis alone, while there was a considerable number in the large towns of the provinces. Ile believed this bill would have the etlect of suppressing most of them, or, at all events, of prevent ing the spread of an evil which was admitted on all hands. (Hear, hear.) It had been suggested that the noire effectual course would be the licensing of these houses, but for his own part he believed that would be discrediable to the government, and would only tend to add to the mischief which they must all be anxious to stop. (Ileac, hear.) Ho trusted and believed the bill which he now Bought to introduce would have the desired effect, and lie hoped the house would offer no ob jection to his bringing it in. (Hear, hear.) Leave was then given to bring in the bill. The other orders were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at twenty minutes to two, until twelve o'clock to•murrow (this day). VD, court. PRINCE ALBERT'S HEALTH. The following bulletin of Prince Albert's health was issued yesterday: " BUCKINGHAM PALACE, MONDAY, JULY n, 1853. "Ras Royal Highness Prince Albert is passing through the disclaim favourably. " JAMES CLARK, M.D." The Queen, accompanied by the Princess Royal and the Princess Alice, and &waded by the lion. Flora Mac donald, took a drive yesterday morning in an open landau and four. Colonel Bouverie, Equerry iu Waiting, attended on horseback. PUBLIC BUSINESS. LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND) BILL. The committee on this bill was resumed. At the previous sitting of the committee Mr. WMARON moved on clause 70, line 37, to leave oat the words "growing corn, grass, hops, and roots, fruits and other produce," and upon this amendment the com mittee now divided, when there appeared, For the amendment .. 54 Against it Mr. KENNEDY moved that the clause be altogether expunged from the bill. The committee divided— For the clause lO3 Against Clause; 71 and 72 welt @greed to. On clause 73, which provides that no distress can be levird on Christmas-day, Good Friday, or between sun-set and sun-rise on Sunday, unless there be a fraudulent removal, Mr. LUCAS moved that the words after " unless " should be left out. He thought that the landlords had given themselves quite enough of power by clause 70, and he should oppose any further extension of it. (Hear.) The committee divided. For the amendment 6O Afffkife• IO6-46 The dame wee then 'greed to. Osaka* 74. which maims it a misdemeanour in the to rant toad, urdig, or sever growing cropii on the days and times referred to in the preceding clause, Mr. LUCAS objected to giving this new and more strin gent power to landlords. Mr. KEOGH had no objection to this clause, but he hoped that on some future stage of the bill the house would reverse the decision of the committee on clause 70. (Hear.) Mr. V. SCULLY objected to giving cumulative powers to landlords. The conversation was proceeding, when it was cut short by the arrival of four o'clock. The sitting was resumed at six o'clock. Lord John Russell was amongst the earliest in attend ance, and appeared perfectly recovered from his late ifillllll6 THE IRISH SOAP DUTY. Mr. DAVISON, pursuant to notice, asked the Secretary of the Treasury, whether the government meant to pee severe in their contemplated measure of prohibiting fee ace year, flora the sth of July instant, the Irish mem facturer of soap from exporting soap to England, whilst the English manufacturer was to be permitted to espies soap to Ireland during that period, to the manifest injusdee of the Irish trade ? Mr WILSON replied that the notice prohibiting the ex port of Irish soap for a year after the reduction of the duty, had been given in consequence of ita having come to the knowledge of the government that extensive preparations for the manufacture of the article were going forward, as it was 'apposed for the purpose of obtaining the drawba ea exportation. The warning which hie notice conveyed to the Irish soap makers had however been sufficient; end a very small increase in the quantity made for exportation had taken piece; and it was not therefore intended to delay the operation of the bill in regard to Ireland beyond the period originally Ungraded. RUSSIAN OCCUPATION OF MOLDAVIA AND WALLACHIA. Mr. DISRAELI—I wish, sir, to ask two questions of the noble lord opposite relating to the present state of affairs in the East, and I will put them separately, in order that I may be more explicit. (Hear, hear.) The first relates to a document which has reached this metropolis to-day, and which bears the title of a "Circular despatch addressed to the diplomatic agents of the court of St. Petenburgb," and is signed by Couat Neeselrode. It is stated in that " drat. Ism despatch^ that the occupation of the priacipalities by the Russian force has been occasioned as much by the naval occupation of the Turkish waters by the combined Ise% of England and France as by the refuel of the Selma to give that satisfaction which the Em peror of Russia demands ; and it says that he will not retire from those principalities until complete satis faction is accorded to him by the Sultan, and until also the combined fleets of England and France shall have left the ports of the Sultan which they at present occupy. Now, sir, what I wish to know from the noble lord is whether a copy of that " circular despatch" has been presented to her Ma jesty's government—(hear, hear)—and if not, then I wish to know whether it is the opinion of her Majesty's govern ment that that " circular despatch" is an authentic docu ment ? (Hear.) Lord; J. RUSSELL—With regard to the document to which the right hon. gentleman alludes I have to say that, in the last despatch I saw from the British mi nister at St. Petersburg, Sir Henry Seymour says that he had not then seen the despatch that is allowed to have been written by Count Nesselrode. No doubt, substantially, the "circular despatch " which the right hon. gentleman has seen, as published in the pub lic journals, is an authentic document. I will not enter into the particulars to which the right hon. gentleman has referred ; I will merely say that I do not think, in the first . - place, that the Russian government can in any way sub 'Amebae the fact that the entry of the Russian troops into the principalities was occasioned by the sailing of the Eng lish fleet into the waters of the Porte. (Cheers.) Nor did I understand from my reading of the document that it contained any declaration that the matters pend ing between Russia and Turkey could not be ar ranged until the English and French fleets should have left the Turkish waters. (Hear.) The Duchess of Keut visited her Majesty yesterday. Mr. Dumbell and Mr. Canister. members of the House of Keys of the Isle of Man, and Mr. J. Meadows White. as a deputation from the Rouse, had an interview with Viscount Palmerston yesterday at the Home-office, on the subject of the Customs Duties Bill affecting that island. Mr. John Wood, Chairman of the Board of Inland Re venue, and Mr. Prettily, had an interview with the Chan cellor of the Exchequer yesterday at his official residence in Downing-street. A deputation from the Local Board of Health for Dart ford had an interview yesterday with the General Board of Health, at their office, Whitehall. The deputation con sisted of Messrs. Tasker, Sanborn, and Haywood, and were attended by Mr. Johnstone, the Surveyor to the Local Board. A deputation from the l'rotestant Dissenting Deputies of the three Denominations had an interview with Sir Wm. Mulesworth yesterday, at the Office of Works and Public Buildings, Whitehall-place, on the subject of the Burials Bill. The deputation consisted of Mr. Thos. Pewtresi, Mr. W. Offor, Mr. Benjamin Banbury, Mr. Wm. Beddome, and the Secretary. The deputation were accompanied by Mr. J. Cheetbam, M.P. Despatches were received at the Colonial-office yesterday from the Governor-General of Canada. PLY74IOUTII-MONDAY. The Victoria and Albert, royal yacht, accompanied by the Fairy and the Black Eagle steamer, arrived in Ply mouth Sound to-day, on their return to Portsmouth. The Sphyoz, R.N. steamer, came in yetertlay from the Cape of Good Hope and India. The 12th Lancers, 43rd light infantry, and 73rd Highlanders are to proceed from the Cape of Good Bop* to the East Indies to relieve the 15th Rowers, 51st light infantry, and 94th, which are to come home. The batta lion of the Rifle Brigade at the Cape of Good Hope is to return to England. THE FLEET AT .PITHEAD. PORTSMOUTH, JULY 11.—The crew of the Puke of Wellington, 131, screw steam ship, Captain 11. B. Martini C. 8., were paid up wages to-day. This tine ship is to sail on a trial cruise, starting, it is expected, to-morrow. The Vesuvius, 6, steam sloop, Commander Wilson, went out of harbour to-day, and joined the fleet at Spithead. The Con flict, screw steam sloop, went out of harbour this afternoon to try at the measured mile in Stokes Bay a new propeller, the principle of it being a modification of the common screw. The Rbadamanthui, steamer, Master Commander Belau, arrived from Woolwich this afternoon. INUNDATION AND Loss ot• serious flood, attended with melancholy constqueuces, occurred at the Tillage of Howey, Radnorshire, on Friday morning, the 9th instant. The bridge was washed down the brook, be: low which stood a small cottage, where two persons resided. • man and his wile, who were both drowned. A yotlng woman happer.cd to ho in the cotta. , at the time, and m order to save herself from a watery grave climbed up the chimney, and with some assistance made her escape. el .ctry to, ; I s-t: , mn.c YS ' Ti' SAELI elicit wortl Sal. a eon vadci quite •nth( the fond P' his Sum entel king the at tei bean