The Express. — London, England, 1848-07-07 00:00:00

slight advance hss been realised this morning. Indian Coro in good demand, at an improvement of I'. per barrel on the currency of S.,turdny last. Flour a free sale, at an advance 0161 per stet. Entwaunox, July s.—There was a large supply of Wheat from the farmers at market this morning ; the demand being good, sales were made wi..hout difficulty, at an advance of Is. per quarter on the currency of this day we, k. Foreign was also inquired for, and a considerable basint•ss was done at a tinnier improvement. B irley met a batter sale, at fully previous prices. Oats sold slowly without any; change in value. Beans, IR. per qr dearer. Wheat, top. 5 average, 63a.61.; Wirley, top. 375., average, 33 t. 111 ; 008, top, 21s. 4.l.,averege, 211. 8,1 ; Beans, top, 36.., average, 335. 11.1. OLARGOW, July s.—The princip al supplies to the Clyde this week core•ist of 4.260 qrs. 0 its, 1,29i.` qrs. B deg, 1,297 auks lima, and 500 loads Oatmeal iron It. latad ; and there are three Canadi , n T ome ' s j ust up, whose cargoes are not yet reported. The arrivals em Gran 50gemouth arc 820 qrs. Whoa*, 1, 610 qrs. Bale', 9 e qrs. been Oats, and 330 qrs. Beaus, all coastwise. There f o r fresh bets, a good umnand dttrigut the past ices we h av e Men k Wheats aid Flour , and full v Obtained. dos been doll, as well as Barley, and their value has ag. nth r receded. Other articles have re- Seined without chanae. This day's market was thinly at tended. and th • badness tntris actei wu of limit lulled eatent.e tiled NVeee..., te l u g scarce, maintained their value, s also Fl ,ur, bath sacks and barrels—the recent arrivals from Camels aro selling. about 284. In 0 its, 0 itmeal, Barley, and all other label e, the turn was in the buyers' favour. The weather since t.:d 11401111 A o the week hes been very is fevourable for the c ountr y , and hay harvest about bs.i .g csmpleted in this neighbourhood. HOPS.—B I.lloUnil NIARKET.—Ntes.r.. Pattenden and Smith report that the accounts from the nlantatinns continue to come very favourable. Duty, 200,0001. Mar ket dull at I tie prices. New 314111 C. Kean 1. 10 to 4/.10 Yearling Kentit.p.ewt.2l. Id lo 2 1 6 Weald el Keats 2l•Le 3 5 Vewl.••: Sti.lo), • Wt. 3 0 012 1105...• •—• • 1 to 113 rustle/a. 4 •M S I FAttlal.4 l l, July o.—The Horn have made ra pid pregregg since our hat report ; the branches are now reachinit acrnm the alleys in almost all the gardens, and present a most luau. limit appearance. Hnuld hag been talked of by same, but whether they +re holders of the lt.t year's crop, or the pr. - Ceding one, ere eitnnot my, but slriuld suppose they were, tor we have nut see any, but, on the contrary, tin I th• or free from vermin 0- disease, and u far as we can judge at present they bid wee fur a crop. WOOL.—Anivon F.t it.—An average quantity (tell free) wu boaAht for sale. The demand was 'cry in.lilToen , , although there were some staplers and others front From•. Graarnol M lfl.ham, Trowbridge, and other parts of the West of Entlond. At the prier. offered many refused to sell; for the best down ter Wool. 10 . 1. pe- lh. was the blithe.% price elves; s one olf red Id. per lb. let, ; best lamb's as low ; finest cotswold and othrr long fleece., 93. ; moderate, 7.1 to Si.; mixed with ewe and other interior Wools, 53. to 7,1; coarse at different prices, varying from 511. to 613. per Lb., some even lower. HULL, July 4.—The show of Wool to-dat , was nut quite so lurte, but quite equal to the &mind. Ttere was only a few buyers, sad the trade dull, at about dol. per tud reduction. SiClNS.—Le.%nzmitti.L, July 7.—hides, &fibs. to °Ohs, 1 11. to ltd. ; 611 M. to 721b5., l Id. to It I. ; 721 b% to 80I1n., 11.1. to 21d. ; 801b5. to 88IM., lid. to 2 1d.; 881bs. tq 96915., 2d. to li d. Horse tildes. is. 64. Calf Skins, 2s. to 45. 6d. BERXOND+RT, July 7.—Halt-breds, Os. to Os. Od. DOWII II , Os. Od. to Os. Od. Limbs, is 44. tots. Shearing", 7d. CATTLE, &e.—SmrrunELD, Tern a' Clrek.—The supply of Beasts to-day is Isrge, enl demand very limited, the w.inn weather havinr caur:d a bad trade at the d-ad =mite's daring the week. A reduction of 4.1. per 8 the. is in most cs.s submitted to; although a little over 4s. is snide of something choice, more cannot be quoted as average of best qualidi s. Many remain unsold Titer: is also a cr,ool .erable number ot Sheep and Lambs; trade is very slow, at barsly Monday's quotations fur the best descriptions. Se:end-rate are lower. Calves aro plen tiful ; the deman4 is small, and priors are lower. Toe su,r ply of foreign cs.•sis!. of 221 Beasts, 610 She e p, and 253 Calves. Fr,m th.• Horne Ciun ices there are 142 Mitch Cogs. Lee stool of NAL -. Istr -tens J. Hot gems, 14,,t00.t,.. 3 lo 4 6 • Bead LW, 616. 0 0 0 Hat 0h•61.-hor6s ...... 3 el 3 14)113e6 Law•w0015........ 4 4 4 6 Swami quality 1160.44.. 28 3 4 Prt. do. si,orn ......0 0 0 ................3 6 4 4: 11.rci and 11. 000dquallts 3 8 4 PfP , ... 4 0 6 , Ito do. 86,6 . 12 . . 0 0 0 Beet 6 .......... 4 5 0 1:6: do • 44 6 4 lisaott at usation, 1,5. as ; dhosp awl Lazeto. 11,3.); CSis.l.4 676; Pio, 310. Ltzseoto FAIR, July s.—The store Beasts exhibited were few and pace in quslity, but better prices than of late were Obtainer!. Sheep were not • ry pl,ntifol, and a trill ng ad vance in prices mty be noted. For the few lawful Horses offering. poi remunerative rates were obtained. EDINHUKOII, July s.—We had a large supply, both of Sheep and Limbs, in our market this morning. Saks dull, the demand being Top of best Mutton, 61. per Ib. ; current, 54. to SA. Lamb', top, 235. ; current, 16s. to 18s ; mtddling and inferior, 6..31. to 10s. A number left unsold. The number of C ettle was more than lastWsdnrsday. Prices down 31. per stone. The best description of Beast brought Bs. per Dutch stole ; mine ot, from is. to 7s. 3d. ; ImdulinA and inferior, from 6s. to 6s. 6.1. A great many were left un sold. For ye , terday's 'markets see next page. 111 1' IL Ii•LIA 1111: is. HOUSE OF Llitll:".—Trronsoti, ILLY 6. TM LOYD CSABoBLLo• MOE hi...eat at 5 cieoci. PRIVATE BUSINE+ I , SECOND READING-I.—Fawcett'. (••• Alderson'e) Elate ; Liver c, blanche•der and Newcastle-upon-Tyne Junction RailwPais ay shandoarnent of the railway •1111 dimolution of the company) ; Barrhead, and Owlet Railway ; bill. RIM) READING-.—Notth Staffortbbire Railway (deviation at WllUngton) ; Abet deen Railway (. vationai e ipii.d) ; tireat Weetern Balmy eatett•lon of the Bee.. . Devise.) • and Man! Ibills. t •ilway from Dunce had to Westbury, with • benne] to PUBLIC BUSINLA REPORT.—Joint-StockUetirTini-e;blif: - THIRD READISOS.- Emleniantical U.ions and Divisions of Part 4 es (Irviand) ; Cartreatea tor Killii,g Haus (ikothwel); ECCLESIAStICAL UNIONS(IRELAND) BILL AND DIVISIONS OF AISUES . Earl FORTESCUE moved the third reading of this bill. Lord STANLEY would not oppose the third reading of the bill. Ile should content himself by merely moving the clause. of which he had given notice, the object of which was to protect tho rilhan f patrons of livings. Earl FORTESCUE intended to insert a provision, giving power to all psrtiea alfsmted by the bill to appear, and be heard by counsel before the privy council, on the subject of any proposed union • r Oivision sat unims, The Hui of ELLENBOROUGII wished to ask the noble earl whether be had communic itad with the noble marquis (Lanslowne) with ',spew. Er those parts of the bill which affected the privy round in Ireland. Eirl FORTESCUE said the privy council would be sum mohed ss heretofore an n matter of count. The Earl of ELLENBOItOUGII said the bill did not propose to institute a judicial council of the privy council. The bill, as at prey nt framed, showed an unfair jealousy of the power of the crown. To say that a majority et the privy council should consist of a particul ir number, would be a most inconvenient measure. The bid was then road a third time. Lord STANLEY begged to call attention to the amend tisfied that the rights of the era an and those of patrons were placed oo the same fowl .g, he should have been contented. But the complaint he made was, that the rights of patrons were not at all regarded. It their lord ships thought that the rights of private patrons were to he disregarded, he must submit to their decivion, but he would content himself by p •intiug out that those ri dots were dis regarded by the bill, and that the am-ndment of the noble earl slid not meet the cm The cwisent of the patron ought to be regarded as much as if he were called upon to part with meat of which h« hid Keen notice. lie should move the following clause " Provided always, that nothing her.:in contained shall affect the r'ghts of any patron rispvct of any bentlioe to the patrona.:e whereof he shall lie entitled at the pasving of this act, or the patronage whereof he shall hereafter acqoire by parch - vs., will, or inheritance." The M arquis of LANSDOWNE opposed the clause. The Eal of WICKLOW said that it the bill were con fined simply to the olj et of disuniting Beluga, no objection could be entertained to the measure. Lord STANLEY would not divide on this clause, I.t 1 j would satisfy himself with placing it on record The noble lord then withdrew his clause, and the hill wan then p .s.erl. LIVERPOOL, MANCHE N-TYN STER, ANDAY. NEWCASTLE PO R RAILW The Marquis of LONDONDERRY h.d given notice of the following motion : "'rust the time for presenting peti tions against tois bill, for the abandonment of the railway sad dies elution I f the company, should be enlarged until the 11th of July instant, and that the second reading of the bill should be postponed until after that day." He now hearted to withdraw that motion, and would substitute the following : tt That the petition of Mr. Moss and ethers on the subject of this bill be referred to the committee."—Agreed .o. COPYHOLD ENFRANBILL.CHISEMENT EXTENSION On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR the house went i n t o comm ittee on thin hill. Lord WARNCLIFFE hoped the noble lord would post pose the measure for a short time, until some parties inte rested, could lay a scheme be'nre hi. lordship with a vise to carry out the obj.cts of the bill mire effectuAly. After a shivt conversation, The LORD CHANCELLOR said he did not wish to press his measure it a better could b.• i• tr,duced. The committee was then postponed to a future day not na med, and their lordships ro , e at a quarter to seven o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY, JULY 6. The RPKtILIk took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUsINERS. REPORTS CONSIDERED.—North Wakelway (Dias , lntim of Com p any; PhilaDrainagenthropic society Char.ty Eetatc; Raver None !im proTvt and ; Bina. HIRD READINGS.—Leith Municipality and Police Trusts. Mar kets, Paving, and Sanitary Improvement; Mane%ester, Buxton, Mat- Irak, and Midland. , Junction It olway Deviation and Branches; ManklAlMl a- d Kirkin itt Bch, Ballochney, and Slamaanan Itailwa/0 rn audgaation or sale or leave, and amendment or repeal of was ; T etow and Ilitchen Railway ( eatenmoe to Cambridge and branches ; Bala LORDS AMENDMENTS CONSIDERED. —Edinburgh and Mag ri, Railway (No. I) (amendment of seta and branches, Ste ) ; Leeds VIROC Owls.; Lett , and Skink Raidsmy illarroirde and Pateley branch); Manche:ter, tthealt4d, and Ltnoulushire Ibulway (crossing of Wel klAtram. in Manch. awe, Wn.); Patent Galvanised Iron Cum rk trading under the Wyk or Arm of "Malang and Rawlinsona"; p'jOUC Buentass. PF.TITIONS.—In favour of Mr. liumes moUon for Parliamentary Refortn.—By Mr. LENNA RD, from Mahlon (1); Mr. LOISDEN, nom 1 inhabiumta of Menlo], Todmorden, Luddenden Foot, Si. Alban's, tioodbiust, brsinplon, Manchester (a), Buttoll. Aysgarth and Cur pr'ey, Mot tram, Day, Clatcsldie, Donciuder, Saddiewoith, Reightley, db e gssid (f a milies), Wednestry (bundles), Leaden (printers), ham. bitants of Kensington, AghtomunderAffe Dukinfleid (workmen) Inhabitants of Forfar, Mashire.. 4 o. t oe (special constables); Mr. it. 0111..0N, (min ?dandiest.., and a pl Em Mr. MU 31 7..., from Preston ; Cot. T11011.1.80N, from outickester, R. 0.4.1110. NE, from 11l t ee and Ilskaidgei ....CJLE.SWORTII, from several place in Cornwall and Demn: !dr. i'ATTISON, from Loudon (several); Mr. KER. lAW, troy: Manchester (13) Mr. MACOREIIOIt, from Glasrow, Ac. • THOMPSON, trout Ross4n and other places in Newland, Madebester (el), and St. Leonard . ", Shorediteb ; Lord D. STUART, from klarylvWcm (reread) ; Mr. W. J. [lll, iron Mancheoter and other plaore (1n); Mr. itHorttEttioN, from Chester and other pi:tor• (several) ; Mr. COWAN, than Edith. ph :nit other places in Scotland (wend), and by Mr. J. WILSON, from Westbury.—ln favour .f the People's Charter.—BT Mr. VILLIERS tram Wolvet hampton (J); Mr. S. CR tWFoRD, hunt Crieff ; Mr. V. O'CON NOR, from Moiches ter untl other plugs (several) ; Mr. C. LUSIIINGTON, from tendon Summations' Political Union loth D. S ruA al., from Marylebone and other places (a); Mr. lIUNIE, from various pierce (20); Mr. lIU Cr (Several) ; Mr. C. PEAR-ON, from Booth Liiiiheth, Camber well, and alowhenter ; Nir W. CL.'. 1, from Tower Ilamleb; ; Lord O. URN fl NCR, from a pl tee nut braid; Lord In tefl'AßT trout the Went London .tai-Encleettre S iciety, that the stile antes of the parks may be tent open at night ; and earlit hoot St. Pancras, fur the people.; charter.—Mr. G. TIIONII.sON, front lk tlinal.sreen, com plaining& the conductor the police at the recent riots ; anti from the northern dividon of Finsbury, for y lots the oornpoott Il of the Puy on the late state triads hi Ihiban.—Mr. WV LD, from for an alteration in the se'retitte Societies M. MILNE.; from B er kshire and Norldk, signed b; the Duke of Richm ond and many noblemen - aril gentlemen, in Getout . of a reformatory pi i•ain for otfender,--Ntr. COW N, fenn Eninburgh and other phicea in Scotland, in favour of granting sites to seceders' churehts, and against the esuessive espenilitute of the country. MINISTERS' MONEY RIOTS (SCOTLAND). Mr. HUME begged to ask the right hon. baronet the Home Secrettiry a quo lion, of wlech he had given notice — namely, under w e circumstances the rm. mar troop', in fantry and env were employed on 3rd June, in Elia bunch, at a sale of . furniture wider distress fur the payment of the annuity ax, or ministers' money. Ste G. GREY regretted to soy he hat received no report , from the civil authorities Elinbureh on the subject. THE CHOLERA. Mr. MONSELL 'wigged ai aAthe noble lord the First Com missioner of Wre ds and Forests, whether he had heard of the breaking out of the chiaera at Moscow and St. Peters burg, and whether her Mai , ty's gov-ritment were prepared to take any steps to tummy the laws relating topublic health in Ireland Led MORPETII said that the last accounts did not state that the cholera had made any further advance, but he had reason to fear it had broken out in the two capitals named by the hon. member. As to the st.. ps taken with respect to the public health in Ireland, there eas a bill which had in the former case been apple d to met the d mg, r of the cholera, and that could be rmiewed it Firlialuent thouaht tit be fore the session was over; anti it would also be pos sible to introduce an act fur apply nee the previsions of the bill in progress in another place to [reboot. TRANSATLANTIC PACKET STATIONS—WEST OF IRELAND. Mr. MONSELL said, that a bort of promise hail formerly been held out u the people of Ireland that is pseket-station would he established on the western coast, fur the purpose of gentling the mails across the Atlantic. The Dublin and Limerick Railway won now open and lie wished to ask the Secretary of the AeliWralty a question with regard to the intentions of the got ernment as to the establishment of a transatlantic packet-station on tie western coast of le lnd. Mr. WARD laid, that the railway in question had oily been opeecd a very short time, and no application on the ' , object of the hon. member's question had trachea the go vernment as yet. Ile was aware that the opinions expressed by the executive had been favourable to the project, but he could not tell how it was viewed at the present time. witur FOR LEICES VEIL 110 ROUGH. Mr. A. St AFFORD said that it would be in the recollec tion of the house that be had moved for the immediate issue of the writ for the borough of Leicester, which had been negatived by a very large majority. Since that Reis the evidence taken by the select committee appointed to try the merits of the petition against the late sitting members had been printed, together with the repast, winch stated that the system of bribery that prevailed during the late election was such as la demand the attention of the house. This report was flaw some weeks old, and he had watched with anxiety ever since, to are whether the govern ment intended to take up this case. Seeing that since the producion of the report no leen lied been taken by the hot. peutleman opposite, he had felt justified in calling attention to the subject ; end he 110.7 begged to it ove that Mr. Speaker do issue hie warrant t i the cleat of the crown to make out a new writ for the eb sting two burge-are to serve in this present parliament or the borough of L-icester, in the rn'm of Sir Joshua \Velma ey, knight, and Charles Gardner, Esq , whose election has been determined to he void. Mr. NEWDEGATE s^conded the motion. The question having been put, Mr. K. SEYblElt would nut oppose the issuing of the writ. Lord J. RUSSELL said he was quite ready to take the qui stion genere3y into the hands of the gas% rnM •nt, and propose what he considered fitting for the necessity of the case. He would not now enter into the subject, hut early next week would state what remedies he thou ht ought to be applied, aed what additions made to the act he hal had the honour to introduce. Ile should be unwilling to vote for the issuing of the writ until :either precutting& were taken. In the measure he should submit he would pro,mse a further but simple mode of inquiry u to the state of the borough of Leicester ; and on that subject he had expected to hear from the hon. gentleman whet was the opinion of the committee. Alter • w w••rd, from Mr. K. Se) met mail Mr. Erewan, Mr. STAFFORD withdrew his motion. Motion with drawn. PARLIAMENTARY REFORM. On the order of the day fur resuming the adjourned debate on this question, Mr. HOME expressed a hope that the House would divide that night, and that hon. gentlemen would regulate their speeches accordingly. (Cries of divide.) Mr. OSBORNE in resuming the debate, said that ques tioning the pull y of adjournieg it, he did hot mean to have thrown any slur upon the motives of the hon. member for Mantras When the motion was brought forward the"; remarkable speeches were deliv . red by the gentlemen who opposed it. It was alleged by them that this meremeat was not based upon popular support. If not, it WWI certainly sounded upon such justice and expediency that he should vote in favour of his hon. friend's mutton. Alth ugh there might be differences in the wording of the petition, he begged of the noble lord nod the house to believe th ft they all agreed in this, that she present representation ,of this country was inad_quate. (Hear) Even in the three speeches alluded to, none of the o•pa.kers, although they ridi culed the details, el irected a single word • minst th principle of the movement. The hon. member forWeetbury, leaving it an open emotion as to how he would vote for the r. solution, said re had held reform principles so far back as 1829; taat he had wri•ten a psmphli t in favour of these principles, and that this session he had given notice to bring in bills for triennial parliaments, and on extension of the suffrage. It was therefore fair to conclude that he woe no adversary to these measures. He thought the noble lord had done him self great justice by canceling a long train of misrepresenta tions, r. specting any change in the reform bill, and by ad mitting that be had detected many failures in that measure. It was no: unnatural or unbecoming to see the noble lord a little coy on the subject; or requiring to be squids:2d a little more is urthr to be induced to amend his own 'coot 1832. He next came to the speech of the hon. member for Buck inghamshire (Mr. Disiaelt), whose observatio..s so lung as they were not directed nvinet him, be (Mr. Oeboene) felt the greater delight and admiration in listening to. By untiring energies, and by the exercise of great abilities, that hon. member had been mailed to communicate galvanic life to the almost defunct principles of toryiein, but in his speech the hon. member had guarded hi self against the belief mat lie was opposed to further progress. True, he had told the hoe, that for one he woe opposed to the vulgar reforms propounded by the Wilsons and the Thomp son+ of Neweini-buitdings, Manchester; bat the ho. ouralile member was ready to affitate with a small party of gentlemen assembled at Nu. 17, 014 Bonidedeet ; therefore the hon. member might be fairly counted upon as an advo cate for blither progress. (liege, hear.) In sheet, in the course of the dehatu which had already taken ;dice, it appeared to him (Mr. Osborne) that fluidity doctrines hail disappeared, like the old stage-coaches, and that the only question was, what was to be the pace of the new vehicle, I and who were to be the drivers? (Hear, hear.) The noble lord at the head of the government had objected to the resolution moved by the hon. member for Montrose, as being vague and indefinite. He (Mr. Osborne) was not prepared to say that if he had been consulted on the wording of three resolutions he should have consented to them exactly in their present form, and he thought it his hon. friend (Mr. Hume) had only taken a House of Commons view of the matter, he might have so worded the resolutions as to have secured more votes in their favour by making the motion I more generod But his bon. friend had been placed iu a difficult position : he waxlike the old gentleman is the table w -o had two wives, to both of whom his head of hair was displeasing, and while one wife removed the white hairs the other pulled out the black ones, till the old gentleman was shorn of all hie locks. Such would have been the ease with his hon. friend (Mr. Hume), because there were a great many members who called themselves staunch reformers some of whom did not like the ballot, others objected to r lectoral division, while a third party was opposed to household suffrage, thinking it went too far; therefore, if the resolutions had been made general, the positions would would have dwindled down to nothing, and his I hon. friend would have been left shorn of all his fair propor tions. (" Hear, " and a laugh.) So much then fo: t he vagueness of the resolutions now under coneideration. He was surprised that the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) should have designated them as vague and indefinite; because what had been the plan hinted at by the nolde lord himself in the course of his speech ? The house would remember that the noble lord spoke of an ' education test and other matters; and he (Mr. Osborne) asked the house whether in all fairness the plan fore 'shadowed by the noble lord was not more vague and inde finite than the resolutions moved by his hon. friend the ! member for Montroe • ? (Hear, hear.) But the noble lord had taken another objection—that which was the stereotype objection in this question. The noble lord had used the well known objection to all reform—that this was not the proper time. Since he (Mr. Osborne) had been a mem ber of that house he had often heard that ob jection put forth from the Treasury bench, and from all times back it seemed to be a sort of stage pro perty, kept its Downing-street, to be used as occasion might require. (Hear, and a laugh.) In 1785, when Mr. Pitt introduced his reform meanie, he was answered by Lord North that it was not the proper time; and in 1790, when Mr. Flood proposed his reform, Mr. Pitt, then on the trea tise, bench, got up sad told Me. Flood that it was not the proper time; and one hon. member remarked, that so far THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY ETENING, JULY 7, 1848. from it being the proper Basil; hS teeemmeedad be ben. mover (Mr. Flood) to pates= his motion be a century. (Laughter ) Even la later days, he (Mr. Osborne) found that the same objection had tree.'smorted to, and that when in 1822, in I°2B, and to 1831, the noble lord himself propounded his schemes of par liamentary reform, the ministers of those days adeTted - the tame cuckoo note, " This is not the proper time." (Hear, hear.) For hie (Mr. Oshorne's) own pert, be 'bought there could be no more proper or littler; time for these resolutions than the present. (Hear, hear.) When there wero indica tions in the horizon of • coming storm, then was th 2 proper time to put the it houses in order. (Hear ) Lot it not be for gotten that during the present nfesion this house had passed several memures oi coercion and severity under the pretext of securing the crown and the government, and ho thought they were lamed to show to the people that they were prepared to pass measure' of a healing nature, and he called upon the noble lord with that object torthwith to lay ate the table, if he thought these resolutions so vague and indefinite, a mea sure Cir amending the national repreeentetion. (Cheers.) If, indeed, hon. members could flitter theaaselvi s tent the taxation of the mieuitry was exactly that which could be wished, if they could look at the t 'chi quer and nay that it woo full, if it could be alleged that this house was a check upon the public purse—which it was not—then it might be alleged that the was not the proper time for a change. I Hear.) But when they remembered the enormous amount of 6thation—when they saw all the reeourees of the country ware foiling—when ntiuis tees were pressed to a degree which it would be rude nem to press a private gentleman—when such a state of things aar uppar. ta,an ar e umeut wan afforded tor reform ing the constitution of that house. (Coe era) The hon. member for Buckinghamshire (Mr. Disraeli) had tula n up this part of the question, and had attempted to argue [limit t0..1 ter from taxetiou haviest increased it had remained station. ary [deco the year 1827. The hon. member uo doubt had spoken fr3m memory, and hail stated that the total ordinere revenue for 1827 to 1828 tuneunted to 4e,600,0011. Now he (11rOeborne) found that the total ordinary revenue , for that year. after deducting the balance of bills, amounted to 54,850,0001 , showing • mistake of 6,360,000 c But he (Mr. Osborne) could not understand how the hen. member mule out that the taxation of the country hied ton her..aseel, except that the lion. member must have wholly k -pc out of his view the income tax ; sad he was surprises that the non member hail taken the lent 1828 a, a pr of that the 'meant of thin mine sy was all that could roue wish, d. 'lh.. hon. member uug lit to hare taken the year 183 i or Paha after the miming of the Reform Bill. The supplies than voted amounted to 11,123,000?. for the army, navy, ordnance, and miscellaneous esumat. ewhile in the present year 181 e, they amounted to 23,315,0001 e fie ing in fact an inereese since 1836 of 9.000,1001. in these °athlete alone. (Hear, hear.) How, then, could the hon. member sly that there had been no increase in the taxation of the people of this country lie (Mr. Osborne) held in Ili, hand a comparative statement of the tax ition in this and other couatries, and he found the following resells; In the United States tax ition amounted to 9s 7d. per head; in Russia to 9s. 9d. per head ; iu Austria toll.. 61. flee head ; in Petunia to 124 4.1. per head; in France to 24.. ; and in England to 21. 12,. 6d. per head, exclusive of poor-rat's, ho n.ugh rates, and other charges of that nature When tee hon. member stated that the working chases hat no reason to complain, did ho bear in mind what tne working man paid in indirect taxation 1 For every 20e. worth of tea pur e:hued be paid 10s. tax; of cetll e, 8.. tax sugar, 6s. lax; of soap, se. tax ; of tobacco, 16s. tax ; an ; d of spirits, 14s. ton ; and yet tee hon. member slid the peop'o were wet off, and that taxation had not incretwelt since 18/8. Would the people b. here such an argument?—(h or, hear)—or would it be believed by anybody, except smao of those within the walls of the boom ? (Hear.) lnthiscountry there wee now raised,with the election of parliament, more than ever any des potic monarch of any oatiou wrung from his subjects. When the hon. in. mbar alluded to the reducsion of mutton which hail been made, he had not been quite lair upon the right hon. baronet the member fur Tamworth. So long as het Mr. o,borne) hail • scat in that house, he should alter) a be ready to pay the tribute of his grata ode to that right hon. baronet for his stateautatilike conduct, and ho was bold to say that the country limited upon him as the real and only adminis trator in that house. (11,,r, hear.) It was all fury well to say that the my for reform had been raised by paid agitators and hired lecturers h a remark, was wed calculated to create a leuth in the house), but the hon. member had confounded caner and effect ; the paid agitators and hired lecturers were tke dl'.ct, and nut the cause of public discontent. The hon. member had alluded to NewalCa-buildinee, Manchester, but he (alr. Osborne) found that, in Oat Band ureet, the earns system was carried on ; and in his peregrinations tbrou h the ceuntry he had met many paid agitators and hired lec turers whose letters of license wero issu. d from No. 17. Old Band. street. (Rear.) Nuw, the first qu , stiint Inr moisider retain in the motion of Mahon. friend (Mr. Hume) was as to the eatens.ou of t:e suffrage. Ida (Mr. °shortie) did not propene to inter upon the abstract question of the r:ght oh voting, but should col:line himself to the policy of the guts. tion and to the expediency of al extension, and as to how tar the suffrage ought to be extended. Iles was sward that there were in the house many advocate sot universal sulfrsge—but be was nit cne of them. (Hear, hear.) Ile thought the institutions of the country had strown up sunder in limited suffrage, and that they could not go to the extreme length of universal suffrage, with safety, with justice to property, or with justice to the general representation of the country. (Hear, hear.) Taking this view, and being awaited But the repremetatiou of the people could not be allowed to rem tin as it now war', he was prepared to advocate • residential test. This would give a vote to that great body, the educated mechanics. When in 1a22 the noble lord opposite (Lard J. Itueeell) inerietucel tee tie south, he compared the state of edu..ttion in 1770, when there wee only tour eirculatit g libraries in the metropolis, with its condition at the time lie spoke, when they ?mealier...l 1,600, and on that ground he called fur support to his measure. Since that time, there had bee a the creation of mechan'es' fiesta's bons in all parts of the country, and if' the noble lord was consi.tent in 1522, he was new on the name ground bound to make • further advance in the i fight dint tion, and to admit thin great body of men t i a neon and participation in the suffrage. (Ili ar, hear.) lie (Mr. Os borne) took it that the house would agree that the uhf, et Ut all repreeentation was to reflect the indudio , the werlth, the property, and to a certain extent the population, of the country, and the question Wes, how was this hest to he effectee 1 He thought the beat way to d i it was by the adoption not of a household but a m'dential test, wlach was the old ferns of voting in this country. A committee of that house, which had hem dew:need by Lord Brough on and by Mr. Habana, the historian, a, the mad learned committee that ism r sat, consisting of See jeaut Ghtll - Lord Hope, Mr. Selwyn, Mr. Law, and other eminent men, generally known a, Serjeatit c =mince, had declared in their first resolution that " all men who were inhabitant householders, resident within the borough, were entitled to • vete as well as freemen." All iithate tent howeholuere, not 101. householders alone. (Hear, lit ar ) *fhb , household suffrage had been advoette4 by Mr. Pitt in 1795, and by Lord (trey in 1817. In 1 , 30 a bill had been brought into that house, and a very sweeping measure too, not only for the payment of members, hut for the stamen-am of the clergy to parliament for electoral di-tricot and for household suffrage, and the noble lord (J. Russell) eel some of his colleagues had voted for the intruelue•ion of that bit. shear, hear.) But a cabinet minister lied given a v. ry strong opinion on the point of household suffrage. In 1830, Sir J. C. Hobhouse—(hear, her)—had moved this resolution:—" That no Howe of CUIUMOIII , I wdf deserve the confidence of the people until the right of suffrage he extended to all householders paying taxes and peroe'lial rates, until each member is chosen, by a proportionete nu se bcrof electors, until the duration of parliaments is ma•erielly short. nee], and until each elector, without hope or fear of private loss or gain, is allowed to vote by ballot." (Hear, hear.) lie (Sir J. Hobhous. ) went on to say that the °tenant of the wisest man in the world, Jeremy Bentham, was iu favour of his proaositi ; end the house .w how be hail ended by p flouring the part of Jeremy Bentham. (Laughter.) But what peculiar vaunt did the nohle lord and his coleagues find in the 101 suffrage? In the course of the present ses sion the noble lord had introduce d a bill, giving 81. tenants at will a right to vote in Ireland ; whereas, in this country, the 601. tenant at will only had a right to vote. If he applied that princi p le to Ireland, for what possible reason was the 101. vole preferred in England 1 (Chef )He hoped some member of the ye,vernment would be able to give n' distinct and definite reason for this difference. (llear, h, ar.) The hon. member for Bucks (Mr. Disraeli) had gone very ' fully into this qu.mion, and had paid he looked upon the suffrage not as a trust, or a right, but as a privilege. The truth was, the electors in one-halt of the small boroughs looked upon it neither as a trust, • right, nor a privilege, but as • perquisite. (Cheers.) The first charge of bribery on record occurred in 1571, in the borough of Westbury. ('• Hear, hear," and laughter.) Tnough the practice might have originated with the whiga, he was sorry to say he believed it was now equally shared iu by all par ties to the state. (Hear.) A celebrated satirist had said: Those who would gain the votes of Metall tribe, Mutt add to twee of merit force of bribe. This was written sixty years ago, and was equally applicable ,at the present day, if not more so. If hon. members we re sincere in all their fine speechee. and in the horror which they expressed of bribery, they had nothing to do but extend the area of voting. (Hear, hear.) He wished to guard himse f against being misunderstood; for he thought hi. hon. friend (Mr. Home) had been completely misunderstood, and p.obahly a great many people were too anxious to ana -1 understand lime, on the sunject of electoral districts. (Hear, hear.) All he proposed was to increase the area of voting. He for one would never b: a patty to swamping those local landmarks of his country—municipal institutions; but it was • monstrous and gluing iniquity that boroughs like Harwich and St. Albans should send two members to paths. went, and thus be placed on a par with such towns as Liver , pool and Birmingham. (Hear, hear.) lion. gentlemen were really not aware of the monstrous inequality of the pre ' sent system. The Kensington district of the metropolis, comprising Kensington, Chelsea, Bromp on, H tmmerscnitn, Fu.ham, and Chiswick, contained an area of 8,440 acres, or 14 squ ire miles; its rateable value was 491,0001 ; its popula tion 110,000; and it had a voting population of 18,315. It sent no member to that house; while the little boroughs of Caine, Dartmouth, and Melhurst, with very small popula tion., each sent one nismber ; and Harwich and Thetford, with vary small populations, seat two. The hon. mem ber for Bucks had expressed great dread of Glasgow sending seven members, and had dwelt on the superiority of the county he represented. He (Mr. Osborne) knew win thing of that county, and he believed the hon. gentleman (Mr. Disraeli) was among the most distinguished of the members it had ever returned. Mr. Pitt had never sat for any place in that county. Mr. Burke had been returned for a borough in Buck. by Lord Barleigh, whit afterwards quarrelled with him and turned him aonft. He (Mr. Osborne) had had the honour of sitting for a place in that county (Wycombe) ; and he would tell the hoe. gentleman who now rem- good that plan, abet, bed the voters had the protection of the ballot, lie would not have bean elected. 'LLauftlll''.t.) There was only that one borough out of four in Buck% which was net open to undue influence ; and he was ao . .ty to say it was sliding from its first virtue ; it had her n wooed by " a gay seducer." (Laughter.) The annual rate ' able value of Bucks was 674,0001. and it sent el - yen mem oers t o parliament. The annu al value of Middles. z was 7,293,0001., and it sent fourteen members to parliament. (H ea r.) Ile might also instance Sussex and Lancashire; but the proporti ins were so ridiculous that the system de mutt d its own object, and failed to represent even the pro perty of the country ; for population and property were very n. arty connected, and it was only in exceptional cases that they did not go tom thee (Hear.) By granting the pro. tection of the ballot the house would du much towards prov ing the sincerity of its desire to put a stop to bei-wry. All v.° arguments yet used in opposition to the ballot were founded enure on mealtime Ist than on reason. The hold, lona (J. Bowls) had referred to America, and said every man's vote was known there th o ugh they had the bullet. 'I his was • proof that the ballot' did away with intimidation and bribery, and hence a man was careless whether his vote was known or not. (11. ar, hear.) The noble lord had a:so referred to the °teener' of the National Assembly in France, where the ballot was resorted tat; and this he seemed to think • clinch hag argument, which was to fright the isle from its propriety. But under the former dynasty in France, out of a populetion to 31,000,000, hut 200.000 men had voted for the deputies; and it was owing to the ballot alone that any indepen sent men fumed their way into the chamber. 'Abe superiority of the ba.let had been proved in tho recent elections, for it was only by rte peon ohm thut any men of conservative prin ciples could have been returned. (Hear, hear.) The usual ugumeut regaled the ballot was a sort of hustings de clemation, —.that it was un-English; hut was it taut more uu-English to traffic in vote., and snake a poor trader vote against his conscience? (Cher.) Probably many members were aware that the com mits o of four who eat nn the Reform Bill in 1831, sou noised of Lord Grey, Lord John Ituwell, Lord Duneannon, and Lord Duream, recommended that the ballot should be introduced, and that the duration of parliam: nts should he shortened. This could not be denied. And when the Chandus clause was introduced in that house, Lord Al horp had deelsred that Et would ho a great step toward. rendering the ballot et cessary ; and Lord Grey had wed the same argument in the cell. r house. He would ask tho'c twenty gentlemen who voted fur the ballot in 1812, woo of whom had wed some very hard laegu age towards the noble lord at the head of the government, whether any of Wt m would be swayed for an instant by the arguments with which the noble lord oppmed the ballot in 1848. Twenty eupporters of the gnvernment, and two cabinet ministers voted for the ballot then ; he hoped they would 100 true to their co. urs, an n vote I.r it now. (Hear hear.) The qu anti anon of members question had not been touched on by the hou. member f Odintrom. This was by no means part of " our runlet t in to itu ions ;" it was quite a moot innovation. In 1703, a parliament, which was very jealous of the commercial classes and di shoes that all the power of the country should be vented in the landed gantry, pulsed an act by which no min who had leas than 30 ayar in land could sit in par.itament. The art had been since altered by Mr. Warburton's , met. Mr. Macaulay—whether he was in tun cabinet or riot at present nobody knew—(laughter)—lied said, " It is no part of the constitutions of the keyed .m that a qualtli , attion shall be re. reared ; nor is it a part of the consequences of the emote tioo. it was iutroduced by a had parliament, now het iin 110 great esteem, for the purpose of de tearing the revolution, and ez cluding the protestant succeioala to the crown." What did the hon. member for North Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner) think of that? (Laughter) Anodise question was as to the duration of parliament.. If ever th- re was a monstrous infraction of the constitution, it was in parting the septennial bill ; it was one of the whig jobs of toe d ny. If tile noble lord at the teed or the goy: en meat looked through th : records of the duration ot parlia ments, he would find that, since the reign of Gorge 11., trey lied averaged fire years and • Ina (Hear.) The Septennial Aet was • fraud from the commencement, and you (said the hon. gentleman) who wish stare super tsiatiguas alas, are bound to repeal it. (hear, hear). 1 shou.d have stopped hex, had taut the noble lord thrown out a challenge and denied that the government of this country was carried on for the bent fie to the arismcracy— and he quoted Tact' us. (Leuehter.) The hon. member for Surrey also (Mr. H. Dcurco.ond) quoted " D eld's Par lianientary Comp mama," to show how many vulgar feelows without grandfathers, were ..embers of pm t. (Much laughter.) Well, 1 consult . Dodd (leen4hter), and her. are the results. I find, according to Dod.l, that thee are forty two boroughs still sub j. et to local nalluence •. thirty-three era under the direct influence of p pet (llear, hear.) Eighteen members in this house represent eleven whig peer-, mad thirty-three represent twenty-two tory peers. (Hear, hear.) And these forty-two boroughs have as much influence in the house as the cities of London, Dublin, Edinburgh, Liverpool, and Glas gow. (Ilea, hear.) But when the noble lord ra)s that government is nut carried on for the benefit of the aris tocrat!! , here is any aeswer—again according to Dodd. (Utaghter.) There are 6 marqui-ea in this house, 8 carts, 26 viscounts, 36 lords, 61 baronets, and 10 hon. mist. es. There are. altogether 271 persona connected with peers and the aristocracy in the house, besides 44 officers of the army, 8 or the navy, and those who are officially connect. d with the grow riament, making, in the whole, 331 members who are under the. narect influence of the &newer cy. Let it not be supposed that lam attaeltiog the inuividuals. ( Hear, hear.) I am attacking the system, not the men ; and I say that the power of the aristocracy has increased, is inereming, and ought to be diminished. (Loud cheers.) We have beard somewhat of family petitions in this house. Why, what is the whole foundeuon of the present government in this country? Its Cyanide:km rests upon family arrangements. The wnole cabinet are relatd to each other by ties of birth or merriege. (near, hear.) They form a snug family party. Mesa, hear, and lauahter.) And they so tar differ from smother exhioition enlied the " Hippy Family" —(laughter)—that, whereas in the one ease all the animals are deselect by birth; in the other, whilst admitting the great knowledge and talents of iedividuels, you can only account for their rickety_ offspring in kind Wm by knowing Brat the parents are all r toted. (Much laughter and cheers.) For the sekeof decency it was chequered perhaps by some liberal statistical members. (Laugatter.) Some m -usher of a large constituency, which he would not be likely to reverent again, may be caught and cribbed wr his whig consistency and firmness. (Laingliter.) But even thew members become so altered when they get on that be ne h,t nat,lake Sheriden's old juke about . he Irks/We Children, you aeon W have disfigured th, in to make them pass fur your "son, (Great laughter.) Tne n able lord ask. d, it we w .uld prevent the Moravia and Stanley* from having places. - Lord J. RUSSELL said he had never said anything of the kind. Mr. OSBORN E.—l can assure the noble lord that I did not mcau to hur. his feelings. (Laugater.) I say that the flowaros and the Stanleys have as goo I a right (and no alum) as others to have places. (Hear, hear.) And it is somewhat singular that few of the Rewards and less of the Staidays are in public places. (Hear, hear.) There arc othi ra there who have n,t such good claims, and who make a good thing of them. (Laughter.) We do not complain that men 01 the name id II sward and Stanley have places, hut we c 'asphalts teat *. Lord Tons-noddies " are pushed into office, while other men of equal, and perhaps better, retensions, but nut of such high birth , are exclu ded. ( Hear, Gear.) Ido not sec why a relative of my hon. friend ( dr. flume) should not get a place in the Mint, when qualified for it, without danger to the constitution, as weal as if he had then the son of some peer. (Hear, hear.) The pre sent government is a government of great families merely. Are the members a that government remarkable for any great or overpowering talents? (Laughter.) is the colonial Wilco so well administered? Is the financial department so well attended to? (Hear, hear.) Arc you Steeping your promises when out 01 office to Ire' and ? (Hear, h ar.) Are these the reasons why you are keeping your p aces ? No, you arc keeping them because none of the peat families ore prep: red to take your places. (Hear, Lear.) Yon arc keeping the government because the people cannot make lards ail the bedchamber Of got lords in the other house to thump the red ban. Tue people of this country only want a governin-nt ol practical men; and my conscientious belief is, that the hon. member for Sunderland and others, who ran n ,naec railway boards equally well, are as well quali• lied to conduct the government as the no Ile lords who now form Snell a select family compact. The noble lord at the close of his speech toe other night quoted an American gentleman, who said that the British constitution was so long and strung. The ruble lord was caught by the rhyme. (Laughter.) But in 1831 the noble lord said that the con stitution of this country was never settled till about tiny years helore. Why was the constitution "so long and 114011 g ?" Because it went with the spirit of the times. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member for Buck. (Mr. Disraeli) objected to the movement because it was a middle chums move ment, and expressed an opinion that the only possible go , verniui of in this country was one that leant upon traditionary hillaence and great property. When his hon. friend talked so sneeringly of the middle classes he seemed to forgetthe day, not long ' , rice passed, when the middle classes raliel round the small numbers with large properties. Ind saved them from revolution. (Cheers.) I would have my hon. friend rec illect .hat the safety of this country de pends on the intelligence, the probity, and wealth of its middle class—(hear, hear)—and that their numbers, sur rounding the more ornamental and polished portions of the constitution, form the solid basis and cement which preserve the institutions of this noble country. (Cheers.) When you ta k to me of traditionary influence, I fa .c I am listening to a kind of political Puseyism. The only tradi tionary iutluences which I could tied are, that in searching the" Parliamentary Register'' I bound that a county mem -1 her was superseded in his election because Garter King at Arms was not able to find his coat of arms in the Herald cane, and that you, sir, are obliged to sit is that chair with a cocked hat. (Laughter.) The traditiona- yit fluence of the aristocracy ! The hon. gentleman knows well that there is ro traditionary influence of the kind. In the reign of Edward 111. there was only one place in Lancashire, namely, Lancaster, which had a representative. In the reign of Henry VII. only York and Scarborough out of the whole of Yorkshire were represented. There were but 28 peers in the same reign. The wars of the roses destroyed the traditionary influence of the aristocracy. Did his hon. friend wish to go back to the real traditionary influence, and to give the whole light of nomination to the crown, tor originally the crown created boroughs and really sent the re presentatives to that house till the power was taken from it by the oligarchy. (Hear, hear.) Until 1573 Darhem had no representative, and the hon. members for Newark owed their seats to the last profligate act of Charles 11. ( Hear.) The lather of his hon. friend, a great literary man, far great he was—(near, hear)—says in one of his works that it was the boast oh the Cavaliers who fought at Edgehill, that they defeated larger numbers than were opposeu to them, but ELI they were beaten by the middle class of that day. And when the hon. gentleman asked whether the Wyndoams and the cal amty,hu i ti l t a m t ,:ih rft e tatth . : Cooper was therefore the nun fitted to l eg the helm of s ot th h u of Stout ; and u far as For, inquiring not into tbe political were rts m:rely engaged people ot England, or to assist en guidine in an "mitt to brin g in the ° creed, the Newdegates and tical conduetCooper—ethat did he Mid He fo traditionary it:4l'l"w' wa : co n n o c thing in common with them. Mr. Cooper proceeding Sibthorps of the day hi d to the Staff, adebire Potteriet un ! el Ito "gin such a party. time when, in comet:maim of some unhappy etiffereneeel e e. They would be reluctant in ee j The knights arc duet, . ----"""'""""---"";:7---.—'------- I S i l a l ra: = l'l ' 6°7 : hou:': theityP "n at twee° the masters and the workmen, the mines of th. Their good swords &reeled, . I Cooper hraanguing those fierce mai excited • . men In (Laughter.) I deny that those whom the hon. gentleman leagnege of the most inflammatory description in i • p enneg E land were ever the leaders of words , which , a day before , were sure to lead rn ant by the gentlemen o f ng f . Take Hampden or instance. He war cut of violence . He found the heart's of those worilto deeds popular opinion. le ohms by the gentlemen of that day , and if he were alive he wuuld the address urging them on was conc l u ded , ? m e m . e And teed souls are with the mints, /root. wucely be asked out t e dme r . in the present d o y. forth to acts of plunder and of outrage, menacing the ' -- -....s "Tee gentlemen " resisted catholic emaueipt- district with desolation and flames, and °ray det. t e s a * 4l (Laughter.) tem and the Reform Bill formerly, and in the present day their purpo- o by the armed tetermoition of the eat,. it Wall they who threw out the measure for destroying the beeeath ohege enforced fire one of Mr. Coope r ', v i • ---" last links of intolerance which had oppressed a long su e ring for sash b e moat al th e u nh a ppy men—f e ll eead, eh ee m e . fi. • I I deprecate the placing of class against class—(hear ),- by kin tall the advance of his cempaniuns, and thus metee ee race. h is no true friend of his country who looks down on the their lives by his deith. lie found them the eu.rages thus ' tt n n d try e the middle class or tie working Class. (liter, created by the glowing words of Mr. Cooper were 0:1 ee ees , hear.) , I believe that the patticipatien of numbers in the lion of a special commission which sat for t tee weak ; government, and that the taking away of all restrictions on and sprawl terror and grief throughout liendre r ], education, religion, and liberty, is the best safeguard of the of families compromised in the guilt of the l a „ state ; and entertaining these °pinkies I cannot hes:tate to surgenta. (Hear, hear.) Sur , ly the h e , atd the su pport the metiers ot my lino. friend. (Loud cheers.) country would cut sweet to the proposition that s l ice a tam M j r. Ssreant TALFO CUD said that having on former as the inciter to these acts of yeacece was a fit .n.l r opes occasion sympathised with and aided iu the cause of reform, representative to legislate for Regaled, or that hot % tense , nefelt bound on the present occasion testate why he was not victims were fit recipients of the puli ical power ww. r e d b p guilty of ieconsestency is opposing the motion of his hon.friend, them. (Item, hear.) The history of matikied we. not tim, And when he looked neck at what had passed during the last history of the masses thinki•.g fur the masses, but to the ge. 3u years, when he lint entered upon public lite, and took an nitre, wadom, virtue, and heroism of the few viuoiering th e ardent interest in the reuse of progress—when he saw how liberties of the many, creating them by their gamy., inktrat. the pow. r of the aristocracy had been diminished—what Mg them by their wisdom, and minfireeme them by th e i r great additions had been made to the popular strength— virtue, end cementing them with the te emni otfi r ,.4 „,,,y theft when he remembered how the stability of a paper currency heroism. The time would come when the 'nee, s might be had at that time been maintained by the sanguinary execu • safely entrusted with a full participation in the adue en ee . Lion of bleodahedding laws, and bow the p ewer of the press tent and Iceislation of the stet., hut that tire s had in those days been visited by the cruel oppresseons of had not yet arrived. The people, uninfoure d by bigotry red tear, and when to saw how immens , ly the Knowledge, were as the ce . c m in his e, renq direct influence of the aristocracy heel been curtailed by gigantic b a t blind, blind with a darkness, which coati; ~has the act of 1832--how every municipal corporation bad tem deepened by the light from SeilliC ~ by the lieht from Ibeen popularised—how free was the ;less in thew days, learning, by the light from above. (hear, mere n o not merely from pro-ceuions, but even from anuoyance : wool I quote, to the purpose of these views, a lean hats from when he recalled all these things to mind, he could not Coleridge: think that he was ieconsistent in echoing to . proce-d fur- My tu of these old narrow ordinances la t on not hold too lightly. *lacy at e ir, ights Of prtcele, rotor , which oppr.,..,eu inutik.i.d should act more wisely by striving to consolidate our testing tier in agitating for organic chun s e, believing that he Tied em the v.ilatile will of tle•ir onpreeso.s— institutions, and to impart to the people that Knowledge For always formidable was Like league which was essential to the exercise of public choice, and toot Atsl parukersuip of tree gout, with free will. piety witheett which knowledge was rather a bane than a Thew ay of an ordinance. thou:h it winds Is n, deeiounth. Straight forwam g wi, m maim befere them, lie was struck, in the first place, by its ben. fit. ( Ministeri.il cheers.) Pram eding to examine the The wid w p ith, and straight the fearful path Of the cannon 1....11; direct It the., --ad taped mirco larteous character. It ap, tared to be a smell attempt Flastternai that it way reach, and sham ring what it reedits. to emulate a larger and infinitely nobler scheme. The Pl y . aka, the road the human tains travel People's Charter was a bold plan: t hin lesser charter seemed That On which isi.,,isti corms and goes troth fallow The river's course, the valley ptasful windings, firmed upon its model, only to induce more timid politicians es prefer it. It was developed, as it was arranged, with etirves num,' the corn Held HMI tlie hi,' of sines Lamming the holy holmium of property: little caution. In the original plan there were four propoals; And thus tom . c, th AO late, leans to its end. but the hon. menet, r for Montrose had since offered them Before he sat gown he would sty a wired or two Aleut the a fifth point ; as it to show with hew little discretion the petitions presented on this subject. Terre had ban a grim whole pion had been arranged, and how little judgment had nuioner of these, from very respectable perees, wle, in van. been exercised in introducing mighty changes of the whole owpoints of view were dissetisfied with this or teat haters scheme of the British constituti in. The hon. member's first in our present institutions, though probably for tie most paint was the ballot. In his (the learned serjeant's) end c art with no v definite notion of the neve view, there could be little °ejection to any change in theend extent of the honourable geetlerran's eine m; but he denied that there had been mauffetted my urit enthusiasm throughout the country oar the 'abject, male of voting, which could save tne humble elector from the ceercion of power and th e t em p tation of g old. Looking at the baled singly, and believing that the defect it was to remedy existed, if it had been sinely proposed he le denied that there was any 'Meet of :hat kind whieh manifested a desire in the country at large for great changes. should have been prepared to give it his support—(hear, There Woo, on the contrary, a vast na-ljurity eat .iglu-minded Dear) —believing a: the same time that its ins and sound-thinkiug men, who were of °pillion that this ass penance was greatly exaggerated both by friends the: not sec e time ,un ,y . to be tallereg about wasettlieg the Irishme n . o t and face —( cheering ) — and entirely discrediting the notion that there wan efficieecy in any mechanical contrivance which There were multitu ice of pi:Memel who would never have coins forward but fur a speech which bad could prevent tee greatest act of a pone man's life from being better never ben spoken. (Hear, hear.) Was it at a known. (Renewed cheers.) But the hon. gentleman con moment fired that i f the conetitueney he proposed to crea t e we moment when Eogland, by virtue of her instimeues, sad by the providence of Oud, showed herself to be the Thee. felt without this protection, then that the franchise would mopylie of the world , tha t the House of Commons •AS to tis be rather a besto then a bless'ng to them. Wh ycelled upon to proceed with these miserable tater .Ji,.g.. wee . surely, this was the greatest condemnation of his scheme I Could they ho prepared to unsettle the whole system of the institutions, that weathered the smacks in a r..ousual storms? Abeting, theretore, no jot of his boys ter the ad - nation of the species, he was oat tho lees diseeon t o nation to establish a scheme, the sole prote ction of which await the time when the franchise might safely be b. rowed was a ballot-box ? (Hear.) Was that the ark by which the i new-h en voters were to be saved from the waters of revolu- I upon the people. But belie visg that the isoplc, to that CMS which were seeking to engulf them ? Why, he wante r d e shame be it said, were wholly u n fitted fur that no better conteession of the inefficiency of the plan—of i privilege; believing, moreover, that the modoa befog utter uselessness for the purposes , it sought to realise. (Much the house would, it carried, ouly 1..1 to codes cheering.) But then came the next point—triennial paella and fruitless agitation, he protested ageor.st it, and he should mends. Triennial parliaments would produce se little practical i hi s gve vo i ce against the reselutiorms, which woule hto change that he saw little solid argument either tor o r a g ainst ad results no less unsatisfactory to the country than they would them. The charter gave annual parliaments, and this plan rove destructive to the best interesa of the enaere. followed at a humble distance. W teethe r, like the earth-born p Mr. COISDEN.—I rise under a great diudr-ritatte in H. giaut of oaf, who, every time he fell in the struggle acquired lowing the son. and learned member after the heuse has tresh strength for toe contact, they were to derive renewed heard the ermquent speech that he has just ceneludiel, and( energies from each retested reference to their constituents, can only say I shall not attempt to emulate the hen member he did nut know, but that was about the only argument th it bi the flew of lauguege in whieb be has irelulgrel. I feel else could be used in father of this bra ch of the proposition. anothe r disadvantage in following the hon. aril levee* But teen came the substance of the hen. member's scheme— member—namely, ..n his not. having giceit the how: any the e xteu e ion of the franchise and the new distribution ''' supp o rt her reasonings against cue resolutioas of my of the constituencies. And hero he must admit that it the bon. tr h ie ee nd. e o ad ie ireed fact : cDe, h eh o e n e . and e lear ee n e il e g rr e ; tl et te scheme was' a as it was int ruled to be, a scheme tor new electoral districts , there ricts, then would be a terrible consistency L " large is not in favour of my hon. friend's motka, between the distresses of the time and this attempt to tear I should be sorry to believe such an asserion, and I most asunder the oldest political ties and local associations. But mi e, y . I . do not believe it—l ehould been a very pea having evolved a cloud of " family peutions" in livoar of the plan the memeer for Montrose started hack as if at the Fenton of my fellow-c.nntry men it I did. Bat there is this sound himself had made, and cried " Ged forbid that I should • impertent element in the question. It you admit that the e people of this country do desire to particle-de is the propose anything of the sort. I have no wish to cut the country. up into parallelogrems." But the constituenciea tran r chise, then you must also admit this fact, that there are understood tide to be a paralielegram project ; and that being ix eerenthe of the stele of the adult male pepulation by six this franchise is desired ; and if, in addition to the se, what must they not think on the one hand of the studie a you are eh arly shown that the middle chases are in emceed disguise of the projector, and on the other of the value bestowing this franchise on wows six sevenths of the adul t of the petitions? (Cheers.) Some of the petitioning populatFoU, tnen I am entitled to say this is a most ire ' families earnestly preyed for es Mr. Hume's motion" nude which was mule enough ; °thin asked for electoral slietricts P°leant ele merit in the whole question. New 1 cal on the non, and learned member to examine carefully the division in particular. What must these worthy fami l ie s t hink when the y heard of Mr. Hume having got up to declare that to Paper after this debate shall have been brosght to . on, and he will final that in preemelsa house re; rcsert the mid dy did not want electoral districts at all ? (Cheering.) The a conclusion, bow member's treatment of the suffruie question was as the members of this dosses and the independent ill. hoot. holden , PO Y scarcely any better. His resolution, as set out to the world, was framed to include householders. lie passel over t h e sill find th . eir runes recorded . in favour of the motion if . subsequent introduction of time word" alb" m y hon. femme I refer to th is tut has order to row MX it is not true, as has been asserted, that three exists a boas :dr. 11 UM.E.—That was a mere error. spirit on the part of the middle classes to grant any , redeem Mr. S.tj. TALFOUItD quite believed so. But the of political power to the masses of the people. I 'relieve public understood the hon. member to go for " house- that a contrary spirit exists amongst the mid,Pe classes. hold suffrage." If there had been a dinner, though he These facts, for such they are. Drina admitted, what is the would not insinuate that any such festivity be. I other amdereion of the boa. and learned member with which token place, the tout would clearly . bare "•e ' I have to deal ? He stated that there had been no general " Hume and household suffrage." The un iversal cry was w " Hume and household sullfrige." Tne babbling gossip of petitioning nor any great meetings held amongst the people at large in favour of the resolutions of my h moue the a r repeated " Hume and household suffrage." But able friend. No e I will tell the hon. sod leareed mem when the hon. member came to explain his plan he intro- ber that there is a greater mevern, nt at heitalf of teem rue duced an interoretatiou deux; and, accustomed as he (Sets lotions, and a move meat more entirely divested rt oressisa jeant Talfourd) was to interpretation clauees, he cont. ssed non, than has bsen manifested of Lie years am eisst the that this was the strangest he had ever seen. Some of them peopl e I have counted the numser of meeting. where re directed th .t every singular should include all the plurals; solutions have been passed in favour of these lee., aunt's, at others that every masculine was to include all the Gmininee; but this interpretancn clause was still more curious, for I find them recorded in the Daily News, and I Lad their (said the learned serjeant) it explained the denomination number amounts to no 1 FS than 130. (Hear, hear) I ehelietige the hon. and learned member to deny the " household suffrage" to mean, not every man that fact that the movement has been mare ap ntineou holds a house, but event house that holds a in favour of these resolutions thin eve was manifested man. (Loud laughter.) Household suffrage was, no during the five year: that the corn-law movement was going doubt, en endearing term. It was especially so at the on ; fir lam resty to adrift that the eau Lew movement tea table, of the f may petitioners, but this plat of hou - e - was galvanised as from • centre, and that the meetiou as hold suffrage included not householders alone, but ese ry that question were held at the instigation and by the eaten• man alive in this country, except those who slept under meutelity of the men who were 'ward in that move gi peg tute. It was universal suffrage in another shape—less ment, whereat., the meetings hill in behalf of my hoe. Wain and undisguised ; and so the family petitions a second friend's resolutions time had evidently prayed for nom thing the hen. member have been spontaneous, and wholy di never meant. But the reason he gave was still more edify- vested of such extraneous stimulus. There is a l s o less of the leaven of decordence of pelitical feel ng than bee ever in e than the interpretation. " I did net put the words been manifested in former m ,cements of this nature. Titers houachold suffrage in my resolution" said the hon. gentle- have been petitions presented in favour of the charter and man, " because, although the committee. on whose part I preying for universal suffrage, but the greater numb' rof the bring forward these resultrions, agreed to the words house- petitions have been in favour of my hon. friend's rssolutiona curious Now, 1 have nothing whatever to say against the c harter m result of the combined deliberations of the co universal suffrage. I shall never say one word in oppositioa mittee. The hon. member bad done well, however, in to those who advocate, upon general gnomes, what they omitting the words, for the notion of household suffrage term the rights of man. The hon. and learned member bag under the existing circumstances of the popular mind, addreased himself to the advocate for universal suffrage, and the variety of conceptions formed of it was, of all notions, and he teems to think that they have greater right on their the mist fantastic and delusive. Having thus toushed propositions, he now came It the hon. to the question—was the contemplated measure intended as and learned gentleman gives his vote tor univer side than those who claim the right of ho usehold suffra g e. upon his hon. friend's principal sal suffrage, I can understand his argument. But as lam a settlement of the question, or merely as an instalment ? If nut one a theme who advocate that measure, I am it were put forth as e eettlemint, it was wholly untenable in °enteral to leave the hon. and learned member to argument. lib hon. friends must know that the more t'efi- those who do. But, in advancing the clients of um nite the euffrage was made the more you extended it within vernal suffrage against those which are set forth is certain limits, the more agitation did yon excite among those the resolutions of my honourable friend the lion. and learn who still remained without those limits. The very infiuitude ed gentleman hes net, I think, shown hismual legal know of the tenures upon which the elective franchise was held li dye and acumen. Tne hon. and learned member does not lessened the effect of their exclusion with those who did not seem to think that a lodger can be a householder—whereas, exercise it, but once drew the line between a certain degree the Court of Common Pleas bee dee ided that a larger, wko of poverty and the lower degrees beyond it, and you would find these lower degrees assailing this claims t' be rand and is put upon the rate-book, is entitled definite line witn the fiercest determination, told keep- t h e d i ffi cu l t ie s stated by the hon. and learn , d member to le in g up, until they gamed their point, an agitation altogether to have his name entered upon the list o f voters. Them exist in the way of a self-denying unmerried clerk's possessing destructive of the well-being of the state. (Hear, hear.) the franchise would he atonce removed, and that meritorious Let hic not be taken as advocating the principle that, with el es of persons could become entitled to be re gistered in the a people prepared for the exercise of their mainsl righei, list of voters as well as householders. There was one remark property should be the sole ground on which political power made by the hon. and learned member with respect to MX should rest. lie well knew that there is a nobler wealth Thomas Ceoper, the author of the " Purgatory of Suicides, than what consids in acres or gold; he well knew that a upon which I think it necessary to make an otservaticala deep . attacitment to country, a lofty patriotism, a generous lam sorry the hon. and learned member considered it to be pride in the institutions and ancient glories of his native within his province to ally le to the put c steer of Mr. land, held their existence among the very humblest Cooper, who would be as glad to forget the occurrences at ceases of Englishmen, beneath the modest roof of past vests in the Potteries as the hon. and leerned m. other the peasant as within the palace of the peer ; but he would doubtless be if they had never happened. Bat I could not derive hence the conclusion that these suppose the hon. and learned member adduced the case of humbler classes, in their present condition of knowledge, Mr. Thomas Cooper for the purpose of showing—which IS were fitted to take part in the legislation of this country ; needed not to have taken the trouble to show—that a Teri or to be admitted, even in the wholesale way proposed, to good poet may be a very bad poll icons. (Laughter.' the election of its legislators. To such a proposition the N ow, t h e mo tion of my hon. trend the member Inn Moat education returns said No; the returns of crime, increasing rove is, that he may obtain leave to bring in a roil giving not much in number but in the atrocious character of the votes to householders. that is to say, to persons who are not • reported, repoel, said No; the terrible outbreaks which had only contributing to the taxation of the country, but is the so disturbed the country, said No; the conscience of the nt for rates for the support of the poor. Ile asks that they theca statesman, statesman, who felt how little had yet been done by hi the spiritual and secular education of the people, emphati- have votes in the election of members of this hous e. Now, the first difficulty that mee's us in prosecuting of such e catty said No. (Hear, hear.) Could he see that any corre- scheme is, that we are acting on the theory that such is spending increase bad taken place in the intellectual aggran- already the franchise of this country. The old constites disement of the country since 1832, he wooed assent not to tional theory is, that the parliament of the country shoeld . this motion merely, but to the admission to the franchise of be all his fellow - countrymen without dieductio n as to their elected by the householders who are payers of toes sled all poor rates, and we ask is that doctrine to be having or holding boasts or simply living in them, a sham or a reality ? (Hear, hear.) The PorP s but he found that no such extension of intellectual do not like sheens; they will not ho ve them say power had taken place. His hon friend the mem - longer ; they want realities. (Hear, hear.) If this were a her for Oldham bad eloquently cited in proo f of the ad- government such as the hon. and learned genitalia leas vancement of knowledge among us, the vast diffusion of shadowed forth, a sort of national despotism which word cheap literature, and the names of several men, such as first educate the people, and then give them the firmel; as Thom Coop:r and Ebenez a Elliott, who, men of the chise , it might do ; hut the theory is , t hat the people humblest class in life, had distinguished themselves by their po'itical power already, and that nobody is resp ' mete, as glowing and powerlul writings. The facts stated by his hon. may the hon, and learned gentleman in his poetic fights . friend not merely prove) nothing—they indicated nothing imagine, for the task a preparing them to ex reuse the fer._ as to the existence of mental power among the masses. In chew. (Hear, bear.) It there bad been such • roper: m e!. all ages it had plc used the Creator to bestow the gifts of parts I think it would have been done long ago. (Le .1 genius upon the humblest among men as upon the highest. the franehme to The bon. member for Oldham had cited the author I ask what danger can there be in giving , householders? They are the fathers of tamales, er nes . of the " Purgatory of Suicides ," as a man, fitted by his persons whe fill your churches and your de . K_ glowing verse , to adorn the legislature of this country. merits of Mr. ' Thomas Cooger, as a poet, no man better ap- is the danger, then, of entrusting them with the fr lei The shop.; in fact the people of the country. efi W e le , eni Why I hare wholly than he (tar. Sc giant Talfourd ) did; but he (H e " , h ear. ) (N u b eet s tut , one j you cry. . , wholly dissented from the proposition that Piz. Thomas always heard that oar institutions live in the afiestsols o f