The Express. — London, England, 1847-06-05 00:00:00

r I end the Halted States, 32,000 of that amebae rang to the Sekehies; emd he fait very li e that by the seems at mesell=sgme, those e ta would he abbe to seta a the other of the Atlantis. It wag eignistel by p e r well hdlormed es the Wiest, that the tW leer meld set BB siert et frem al"1" 100,0 091. t alais o 111810 —the smear who bed already= MM. He isdieved they wi el d all be peevish& thr, bat V mama WA takes to Member th i th er wieFlakas Vim miliellall bathed the Mewl mem el Midi 'MOW be the minis. mold set be easi al sre e t =mb el the Wow, sel the emigeeede would met only be emseed le pest Mews. bst • dwelt wool be given to lades*. their width might aet be rammed he may yems. Is 111111, *we wee a very large mirsties le Amimise, med is BM yew the theism Mae ene. ella mew* bit in Comk, eta=the met semi falkeiv may, greet el whew retuned le this -, owithe east ettbet eimeth bed not bees get ewe thr wee (Am The peeper elms would be e- allow W lake its Behind omen based of mien weft to AMMO it. The Warmer was new forwarded to arm where west we etimierible, but if they sent out am lima the ocusloy 'weld melee with advantage, the own would be diesmosse, sot °My to the entreats bet : I re 6 esisey limit Every yew a aseber of perms mild ge est, beemee those whe bed gene Mitre would re. peel Ise trig rimed by their nLtiwm ad hiss& The mehle end bees rind extrema ofa War beta as sped lothmk, ellweiag that thesemoremitiedby= te their Meath et hem, to smile them to p every yew ea lite haseeem awl MAW that itpreerewast eel.was mid won pees %east emit apemen, the smelt weld& be tbat these mm der seessme illemees m mieg that whi eld to • greet ement seem Leed lig* le • , Msk le bed Mimi is, Waled thee le thought the essisteaso le enigmas shwa memesere es their arrival is Canada, sell he (lest Om) wee este fieeell that it was a sound pried*. glees, b eer . The ingest of bet year's welpidee derma' fiat it was not a bat that the unassisted ram who migeeted were, as the seMe bed bed Meted, prisolgelly pane= Wearied ; co the esateeer, ii mewed that Maher tithe enstis last year bad awe rift the sissembellien of umlt Mecum, aid d the remaider, berdithe were egriesitemel khowers. (How.) lie treed Mak his wide Meek *Wit they were to de anything to essomme emigredes, they meth W eetsed the poblic works in Caaada ; bat it eon be remembeesithet the esunti7 had already advanced • emit deal el mem for that purpose. (Hear, hear.) He amid. however, wlei to see much more dons for cum* awl be has the grestem soziety that railroads in Ametim iambi be carded le a greater b ent.ext One underlain el ;peat national begwt- Mice had e rd, esimer a smi kern Quebes to Heifer. That there should be Oa err seem has emit a splendid harbour as Halifax to Bram wee met de sirable. (Hesr.) They could not upset at Ism te have e- America railways se perils* es they wars is this weetry, but if at the Irsgbeieg they ellholled the mss of easy communication, the lime meld ellertramis be gradually improved. The wrier of the line beet SWIM le Qeebee lad not yet hoes conpleted ; a prison emoseted with the works bed mehrteriately his this lam IA in sedsweeds• to save that of emedeer, and ebemetemes bed { . wetly • the morns et the mete. Ile was shell the colonists would net be WM M sup* the noteawy capitol; but if the mosey mehat in Vie austry were in a better state, begs oneenoe, so deal, sight be obtained Re artylog se so piaMideg an under taking, bat that weld se be emested under mistier cireumetamee: indeed their lordships haewthst a toeteittee which had nee oppointed was to mot tomorrow Sir the parpom of mediering what meet, Gould ran be to MN of the railway bills new before t a m :i i s welidessee is the mower etthe otootsy tree by no Maui difilthind. (Hear, been) Then bed esrleinly been bar imememte be wads net inuesibiely peedoetive ; yet, if Fressidesee ihmersil us with a geed Imesme, he had such temiddesee In the rem elf= et thie coestry, that be believed the would mita would be =kg le any into /7:1; a ea ncl d ether importest padi a : s m a r im ßet be was anxious mil le sesseempe deledes Die loaddense he bail wormed wee imeseed theta* BM sae wr two rail wer bed bum is New Brunswick, and my ewe la weds mold be la on• emrati mein Led (Iligeggeen) bed essteelled the regress in Cana The da with that to the United Stellea. Bel he druid remember what had eerily been the peepaet is ewe adeMoi. It was so grew. that be was coaoineed the beet Wag fir them wee te be leh is mesh as peril& wittiest government inter lines,. Mat wiser peaty was new prompting . to the de. wispesent of eidereeft GM tedetery in British North Amok" hem whose the meet beneficial malts might be Misruled ha the ormades mom et • few years. la at to the appeistemat of the emmistoe, he did not wis▪ h it to be emppari that the peewit bed any kW of midst emdpiii ea esteridel Meal sf relieving the pet aled Med poems sod ewerilisa, as it might be celled, in WWI, ellheeek tt might imeme en eHefint auxiliary of ether reseeme. Berl FITSIFILLIAII mid the condition et Ireland wee reet vil Ve fi l eb ; and to this withoddweiaa serl wts had this mj b• spoken meth very little elbsion itheseld no other es. sews be piend Ow the relief of Weld Om thaw already =ite ellierithise meld still be goat. The cost of any gam ef emkpelims had Isis urged as an arra nge% opiest b t bat, embus Beebe& wade up her mind to is semeibbi othetwei, she might expect Ireland to be a swims beide, to her for years to come. He llama that wiebeere bed idled to take as enlarged Mew of the asedities of that country, and of the semease whisk it imperatively called for. It seemed = 8„ 1 1 11 1fifoll lion, advantages tress the construction of is the estimbe: was it not 'Went that the acme -diet emir wield have followed how their construe- Aim la Mimed I' IS mes bee that bed art was quite in. Mem* le east this; her, the greater the nemmeity for Ciremilleese He regretted to hew heist that mthe that time, that the membets ef goemullela bed Meted, tee deputatits who welled in mes them that their • wish IMie mode u vierlog lemen He thesed, hew the w p ay= the metes e a rl bed esseeeted to Me opplehment of this newts. that very lire good to belesi might be bagel ism it. For the first bete to the Iraq of ovsoloy the wee now a decided disposition ,IMIle le ; immediately eveo Am- iable of thee == lto would be extinguished Vika ✓ed wee of prim was med. Duly 'Masoning the dill ▪ =Ma=lvs to My gam fa mires- Gia t, galas chiefly set et the • emdillea ei be could not but think thatpeen mat wen the emir raise who could overcame thus difi sellies. tisuld the listilords do it? If the legiietere beired le them firr the relief of irelesel. eel of lisoW at lame, they maid seseemily be dig- The means hitherto adopted would be all . 15711= 7 : t ro i tisa t n z bar i t t e as 7.17 1 ,14"...i' We eld fs b rib th er e n te de. He. did not believe that the rates seder the sew .. poor-law amid ever be wiletimi Let goverment beware of the diasellies in whisk they were about to imam tide iremeri._by veledeg to adopt at NM eillestin meowsa. the lief end& BMus. Without the Merles et eed pmstisa m • hap en* it was Mesabi* that this distress mild be removed tar muy yews. At the imie limo, he pist it pile peedbie that emigration wird be mow tee meths lent it was easy to rani spirt en exam Ms idea it theuld always be Mee fa elm that if the Ishii perdallim was to be fed men wheat in the deem kr pieless. two ism ot wheat weld require Ale be pews imbed et est ems ef imen ; and et th e ta these wee net the slightest pese. Unless the gemsrmest bed made up its mild to see the regie Mem Maim Midas mamma to bed them, he told seat that they moat hew recourse te eselgretion For his ewe pert, he wee rile me they west de esmeribieg to em lb, thehs Wow el the smemby; and he sweetly pews' ape. the adelkebnialea M torn CM: thoughts to the • end le wide hew fig, imminently with their lo *ale semeige and the eserstry, they might swim isa epos a most nimbi mein As for going on as they new were it wee impeedbin The poor-law would •Ibever MUM the country hew the diflculties by which it wag serremiled. He was se ewe of this as that he Ind now coneinid bla *Wm. (A leogis.) Lard MONTIAGLE barbs rid a few words in reply The mike woe mproWl to, W the noble lord baring sassed his ogesaittes (the amen were read by the clerk at the table fa We low atone to be hoard), Their lomithips adjourned at 9 o'clock. • HOUSE OF COMMONS.--Faiosi, Juin 4. The &mamas look the char at 4 deirbeit. 1 PRIVATE NUILIIINP. sitrons.--asuden ead 0. Non et .wind Redone Aationstam or Zarna; adw Atentaa===eit t Do- A rdreVill=aml Juanita Whom, and Oared est Mileldn Ind latinlea anion Cholleilm ilaw a Nalfretn a ==. ninaliaren OlealiCima on Pent= Exlmmket); Not lanniire Ildster Oeme ntlig lie)t Nea Inotoldro Whin galhoroo, Ind Palma Inanie); t Not Lawsa die=iniNto ); NaNhush En Ikons NA. M.); 1111Maralt Wallnwerls; Ong Iforthora =tray (annita to Una int Wilton et . llo2Nor lamb d 14411=rldead. aid Oar La r Wan& Ueda, rar i n...,.. ...is Mae to V_!aldyi ........_ 1 M.); I sad .l orth Weans isSon (Ontint ainoms In Land= mid Noen Washes Itegorg (144dbierth W sawn NM Ikamim. be.) ; Lembo ad "ern Wales ftantik Int" ad Dontralo Ntimit); Narborior ( I 4= branin amiess iba a s= 4 undiemers of Noah =Zoo nen) ; Nillnd Wandea r z . d Immignia Ur) ; Werth Wenn at on &Om*); Ward, Womanly, sad Intwahmmoloa law, 1), Uterine ad Aymnlneot ; Portmleva Nod Deo. ==p; Ilediale Omni (Ibis la Om Nearhatior and Lids Win~ ; IL Moak Ong ad Notwoo (Wombent and liainesok he.) ' Tea on Namtaalb, Neveralt on Oe dirrnit, an R y e Brink Railways Aniipintita ; Igarahraer d Y~llad • pitra, bine. NANDL4oB.—Lottli MAAR awl Dads Dew Limb's ism any; !hewn Nre and UN laelevan Ongemr, NON. MOD liNDlMoB.—Nkninhara, Wolventontea, aml Nan Immo all y I d iaa i llnaisi; Iltrunaratmenteneut, en Wan VOW ONNl•l(dmennek , oa); lanlalsed - !loath Walla Amolla an Ant Perry; Co. Neosesen, 80. nielkom, and Wenn ladoey ; Oerbrebn, sad Winonethira Awe= Inmay; Done mod Yonne on ; W m, sal Path Witwor (Aliontlam ma hanks, an !Nekton, and hminknaol lemente); Emma Omen Laney id Ibilamioa ma andird INN= an Antenna ; Rolm Chemin (.._____ mot Wen 8111 ...... N0ker . rh ma -az al 1.. a.. ......TiWmilia. Ilsilves Opeulry emd Nneatos Bressebes) ; Ind= and NNW Wooten (iNerstcar tad Wlllta,re Ileanh), _• Imam Ind Nora Wales fthway (Purebno of the lid el Entarmea hanan la lbe 114461544 r South lunation and MWWWWI i Lain tad North Western Railway Pagmi. Olin nd Wellintworgb Branch); I. 11- slllllk W. lallny (Portobello and Wotrer- Ilmmitat Einadt, is.); Lnia sad Ely Railway ;Deriatinn and ad a r ri lliegnemplins lei Sal= Itailway; Pei= b lter s : i a = 11 = 1 ; WIIIINISSIII Si4t)Pe alb. POMO BUMMin. e duty vendee stir, bath is sumer 10 the mdse. mil the elitnOrtri ataiadri—ffetensitsment WM* lan. imported sat. la road Is the Mao sok.. rash was 001to1nxth—Newenalliadassenemsat Hires, Situ Sege dim wak e min mod pith ha, Mike . lk " Bradt tall, believed • Neater bat Ram —Dims posimeri..), Messy Isamu (Ire made, *MO to net in of dr macula. hati ts a i rs. latellitn—less Inner Germ sd Jewsenzaresi tfv.Width bed Mien the he lie Mimes in this lin see. At all mean the midi set amino of being NOIIOIII of MOTION.--Feesneese— Kr . h Moms, la theory* gimes by esiesies, besesse, on die AM gm* Ili, it was lithe 1 141 6 4 ."" e " le • Ree".• mottos " 4 " " 4 1 6 4 .71 44 assessed is the &Warns Goat* thet alleradon of the Tuohy to owe areganim a Mat It M d ap lone el ..dimemantigouegeon g& pummel. ea the mein imperted elk mold tape pleas before =Me rao ameeties norm win Bey Mu pewee, hear the let J r , ISO ; dim museing the intireem that lar ill aka Me snleleneentef say peakeier Omen Vertega, st that time parties= Ink Nie =I d ated when • ta.b,MkewisanMdira4ka hi o namalaania Can w• laala the last Awed= wee it was that the re"" d k4 l Ihi m l lldatilla "he ir die arraommenthen eilowlainend maks* Mr two yearsonly. es tag 'em et semi Pao. same fapepate se me bess ha- in wear te a ion Mr. Pastrami, the right • =,ecuritel te penis isa ran las R. ernaer—ter w a d" ' woo m eg this 01.0 warm d i e m u l e et the ham hereon dm es looking et the duty, he found has. the Maim was methane like a counterblow to anything THAMES CONSERVANCY BILL. which had Una dams In reference to the bonded system. Mr. T. BUNCOMBE moved that Mr. Wortley and BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. llr. Cardwell be added to the committee on Thames Con- Lord J. RUSSEL Eon , answer to • q uestion, stated tut, on Monday, his righ friend the Lord Advocate would 111.7 117. 1e i'ARD, without any personal disrespect to the hoe. make a statement explanatory of the two Scotch Bills before pitmen named, must refuse his assent to the moths. the house, after which the second reading of the Railway Sir R. INGLIS supporta the motion, thinking it desire- Bill would be proposed, and lb to infuse new b into the committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in answer Mr. T. BUNCOMBE denounced the whole bill as • mon- to Mr. Stafford O'Brien, stated, that the government did not rem job. think it would be possitde to proceed with the Agricultural Mr. WILLIAMS and Sir Di LAC! Eustis supported the Statistics Bill this swoon. on THE STATE OF THE POTATO CROP. Mr. HUME was a opinion that the subject should be en- Mr. HOUSMAN asked whether government had heti- Seely reconsidered. toted inquiries as to the prospects of the potato crop, ea The gallery was cleared for a division, ;but none took whether they had received any information of the place, the motion being agreed to. ma a the disawe from which the crop of last yea= BELFAST IMPROVEMENT. feted so severely ? Mr. ROSS moved that the Belfast Improvement Bull The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sail GO should not be proceeded with, until arta returns relative accoonts had been received from venous pans oldie mentry to the Beirut Corporstica had lieu laid on the table. that symptom had appeared which had anashmed sere Mr. F. FRENCH opposed the modes as *abiding a appr ehe nsions for the growing crop ; but no intemeds* had dangerous precedent. A motion* pews Alma of meal as yet COWS to hand which would justify a poetry minim. might at any time be made an align ler sopping a Min Last year, it would be remembered, the ahem MI and important neweare. The hoc. member expressed his not make its appearance generally in this country anta Maly. strong approval of the menses before the hence. With regard to the crop in Ireland it was possible that tea After a few wens dem Lied A. Careworn, few days further information might arrive, but at preen* Mr. ORliddli to the am. umber for Belfast there was nothing to enable them to pronounce an coif" that the COniiSSSI bed Amp et the bill would be either way. best able to Male whitlow the Mimes mew moved for were Mr. B. OSBORNE reminded the right hon. gesiderin seessury. He theurre neemmeniall the ben. mender that there was an early crop of potatoes as well as the Yh to bring the matter beton the oommittes. one. The accounts he had received from Ireland limbo Mr. ROSS acceded to the segraos, and withdrew as is of the decided appearance of the disease in the early mop, motion. and his correspondents wished the government to prommes FALSE IMPRISONMENT. moms opinion, which should induce the farmers to reins Mr. ?ERRAND said be bed en a Immerevatio a tatd . from planting such large quantities of potatoes as they wise the right Ism. berme& the Smeary ter MI Home now laying down. ment quern rammedes a girl who had been eo dr Mr. LABOUCHERE admitted that the simounte re ' three were ia • hen et awnetion, and pat es Me awl craved from the agricultural society in Ireland warrantea. MU, wither the ellibeen .Bence. He wished to know the apprehension that the potato crop of this year was as whinier dr right Ma gentleman was yet in a condition to sound. That society was now holding its inethige newer lie misers ? Dublin, and was receiving accounts from all pens ist the Sir 0/"F Mined is amenneoce of reprosentation onatry with the view to ascertain positively whether the Mee la bin Magalailsi shin ma, he had grind Mal SIS• disease did extensively exist—and if so, what was the prod. megielesho sop* athe mad of coommitmat ; aid bad eat remedy which should be applied, and such body wee eineresked from the few slurs tithe morn that the i.e. Ar mere adulated to investigate moron of this desceip- Miner was komeek as it bad bola made ander a amt advise the cultivators of theeenntorishriteenne = ast et The fault oldie seasiunent was to than the government. (Hem) ad had nothing to do with the merits of Sir . BURRELL remarked that in Meals, Prase*, an& the ear The art boa been committed ander the 17 Geo. Italy, herioot beans formed the chief eerie of food, and, whereas ths eoeusitment should have taken plate under acting on the advice of the Gardener's Chrome is, he had the 6 and 7 Vic, c. 24. planted some, believing that if they mil be ism* lio IRISH ASSIZES. perfection in this country , they w and be Open genies as Ms. S. O'BRIEN asked whether government had received a substitute for the potato. ogi e n i formstion as to the rumoured intention of the Irish Mr. ROCHE said that his experience as to the pemen to postpone the mires in consequence of the pre- stets of the potato crop in Ireland differed totally from the valence of disuse throughout the country? information which had been received by the bon. arphar Mr. LABOUCHERE had reason to believe that the for Wycombe. Two days ego, when he left Ireland, liege Irish judges had recommended a postpoament of the was no symptom of the reappearance of the disease to sap sans, but bad no positive information on the subject. He extent . He had seen many specimens of the early pals had written to Ireland, and expected in a few days to be perfectly sound, and be had himself under cultivation 11111 able to give a more definite answer. saes of potatoes which were perfectly free from the aghast AFFAIRS OF PORTUGAL appearance of diresse. (Hear.) Re stated these teelebe- Mr. HWME wished to know positively whether the papers cause he was anxious that there should be no unasessemp relative to current transactions in Portugal might be ex- panic in the public mind on the subject. He should saddest petted on Monday ? his experience was confined to the county of Cork oil dr Lord J. RUSSELL.—The papers would be laid on the south of Ireland, where, at present, the crops were windy table on Meaday evening. He proposed to fie supply for healthy ,• and, if the present beautiful weather continued, he the following Friday, when his hon. friend might bring had no leer for the result Should the disease reappear, forward kis motion, probably the best course for the farmers to pursue would be Mr. 1117M.11 intimated his intention of bringing forward to put in • crop of late turnips. hie motion en Monday. The gumbo was one wUch would Mr. HORSMAN did not wish the government to inshore not bur delay. ( _Hear, Mar.) the farmers as to what tonne they should pursue, bat Sir DE L. EVANS hoped that his hen friend would wait merely to inquire as to the facts. Last year, as early as the per the month of March, government had directed inquiries to be Mr. MORN& said it was currently rumoured that a made. can WI already taken place between the British fleet in CUSTOMS BILLS OF ENTRY. the Tars and the ships of the Junta. That being the ate* Mr. EWART complained of the high pries ein is he filth to be his duty to press the motion. Men's lives the mercantile body for bills of entry, end maid alma were not toremain in jeopardy out of regard to a mere point whether the government had taken any Nem lend on as ((Hear tear.) to the monopoly by which the prices were entted Mr. BORTHWICK regretted that government had not The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied in then tuneeettoos followed the example set by Mr. Can- that a patent had been granted for twenty-one years in ea ning, who, when, in 1826, be was about to mad an expedi- spect of the document referred to, but by a recent arrange d.= to Peressal, appear he the first instance at the bar of menu, the pries had been reduced from 61. to 31. 10e. that bons with an address from the crown, requiring its RELIEF OF IRISH DISTRESS. consent to the opsrations rest to take place. Lord G. BENTINCK asked if the right honourable Vlesinat PAULERSTON said he fally agreed in the ob- the Chancellor a the Exchequer could give any pr eemies' that the Mess eh era be fully Wanted of the tire information as to the expenditure on amount of groans ea rash Ms ansumat bed acted. Bat the isn- the staff employed in the datribution of relief in maker Moneyed hp maw be.. members to sem to • die- Ireland. The other evening the right honourable gen mina bets re peps wove kid en the tibia, peeved that tleman stated the number of ram distributed at dry whin to arider the question without being tally in- 2,200,000 a day, and the coot 2d. or 20. a ration ; but rimed. It nes for the ynpsee el peaks the ban is per whether the cost were 2d. or ltd. would make nearly the nein of In inibrreatiou, fat the severnmest mien Ise a difference between 6,600,000/. and 8,000,0001. in the year ; her age delay. He coon mere the bees that retry pea- he wished also to know whether the government were pre. die melba should be wade he impair' the , which pared with say positive information on this head ? be lisped mold be reedy es Many , bat at all The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not *MIS la the WWII earn day. He would not be led into give other than a general answer to the latter question. The pessiseleffe Abodes, hat would Moly my this, that the number of rations distributed, sad, of course, the expense, mom whoa medusa wend prove thirket of the British was in the tonne of gradual reduction, the demand in each to be, met to establish eloper government In week being isthan in the preceding one. The cost of the urle= i but to seems to the P people all the ration varied in the various localities from Id. to 24d., which privilegeserhir the esaaltution and its charter of Don was the maximum, and in estimating the probable amount Peas am senerred ea them. (Hear, hear). of the expense, the other night, he had taken the highest Len J. KLNNILIS mid that the object of those who mum. With regard to the staff, as it varied every wee he primal reward she eprien wee to obtain a discussion, could only my that he should be happy to give a return of wide had Led Is sine poesded and. (Hear, hear). the expense in any weak named. The mai efeeilisigne wide lad been alluded to, proved Some further conversation took place in which the sea the enmity ore observations were repeated. Led H. VANTrille ' mpiell that the bet another for LOAN DISCOUNT BILL. Manna should Ix his melon for Tisesiew sent. Lord J. RUSSELL bait , moved the third reading of midi Mr. RUNE suede to the emmethr it allowed this bill, a conversation, o ated by Mr. °laborer', and L to mike Me awn= es that day as a ersiinin sidisn. which the Chant:ill* of e Exchequer, Sir R. Pad, Mr. Leal J. RUSSELL said that if he hes. Merl Mudd take Mann, Mr. Hudson, Mr. F. Baring, and Mr. Spooner Uneasy, he (Lord J. Russell) would pnamme the seders ofjoined took place as to the propriety of discussing the eoli ths day dr that date, in order to give his - is sties geseedenee , of the cy now, or at a future period, when (Hoer, hear.) Allusion had beset mole to seEldess mid to Lord G. BE INCK stated it to be his intention to have taken place between the Beide aim is Me Tegneosi bring forward a substantive as for the limitation or the mauls of the Junta. Re woe wit Wray repeal of the Bank Charter Act of 1844, and positive information on the subject; but his r u in, Mega Lon J. RUSSELL hoped, in that case, that the debate reading the public papers, was, that the collides is wends. upon the subject would be deferred until then. had taken par between the ships d the Queen a Peategal Mr. J. COLLETT asked the noble member for Lynn and the vessels of the Junta, sea net belleems the latter on when he intended to bring forward the measure he al. the British men-of-war. laded to? Kr. HUME axed his intim for Thismisthis the ander- Lord 0. BENTINCK declined to state when. (A laugh.) standing that it was to be the first badness teen. TM CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that BOROUGH OF SUDBURY. baths boa told on former occasions that he could not get Mr. COLLETT anted the First Lord of the Treasury espio* to advance money on loan, according to the pro whether it was the latestin of her Majesty's government, *ices of this bill, he wished to inform the house that he *deg the pad pedimme, to 'apply the defleiency in had already raised 2,678,0001. in anticipation of it. Me member el meat= Ora bases caused by the disfran- Mr. SPOONER observed that all practical men were of chiseassat of the horsy& of labery. opinion that the conduct of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lord J. RUSSELL said it we ma the intention of govern- when he made the loin, had not been fair, or such as ought meat, during the present parliament, to take any steps for to have token place ; but that he should have made known that purpose. et the time the whole transaction to the contractors of the THE WELLINGTON STATUE. country. Mr. C. BREKELEY Yampa leue to ask the ark lord The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had only the Chief Clemanidar of Weeds sad Forests, bet, whither the vane explanation to offer to the hon.riernan as on a be hal sanest Mr Miry to withdraw the omen die Ind former °enema when he made the same .He had had given to the el the Wellingtes Mao a the arch no object in concealing the transaction ; an it was only in at Hyde ; sessaily, whe th er b had esmateni- consecrate of the change of circumstances, and not from datedher M4eety' s a aseemketies to the tostbsenal um- anything which he could have foreseen at the time he made mines ; sad ,be add aauk his noble Mood how the loan, that he had thought it expedient to propose the km A was that dr unloading should remit la patent measure. He could only add, that the result of what he gmeeat perks, and whetter he was aware it dr aim ad taken place since this measure was proposed, had been mdse wen snide& with hub aossasary lsr he removal ? of the grimiest relief to the money market; and he was happy Mead 110/LIPITII beard Is den, in steer to the to state that the whole amount of exchequer bills he had had them imiameled emeetkas et ids las. Mend—thet, that ge- to pay, up to the present day, was only 20,0001., wh il e the inemeatled aiMed her Midesty to ads: the removal of amount of bills sent in for exchange, had been no greater the Ma; inisaly, that govenumest having idasided their than the average amount. edam le ins sermon, tie canaillse had, is the first After a few words from Mr. NIWDEOATe, =Oda SIMS the had not hem erkintly The hill was read a third time. eirelind• IDA view nth, dalas—(a largli)—eishas PRISONS BILL (ADJOURNED DEBATE). me that then h beneme, • wiled reties len been morn& ; but Mr. SWART, in resuming the debate on this bill, ob lao mmus Va dam po pin* the Wag was served that all the reports on the subject of transportation bakes* lb' oar sad the areh. Inanawer clearly proved to him that the state of things existing in the to the third ea to haw long the statue was to colonies was such as neither reason mould justify nor religion remain, and ail la a. be legged to profess entire igno- sanction. In the general pnaciple of the measure before the sass of the samat ef at the disposal of the commit house he conourred—only differing from the goverm ent Al he knew was that they had undertaken to remove rant where they differed from their own principle& the dreg, end they had recently stated their willingness to He approved of the Pentonville system of separate Unma de. ullismsyse ern The sculptor had been directed soma, and he disapproved of that part of the plan which tm<rr•piaaldaldrate for an elevation and pedestal; provided for the congregation of convicts in gangs &Ber lin • dee had setts pat been fixed on. As soon as the pe- wards, inasmuch as the one neutralised the other. He also Med was mellent illemilerd would be ready to fix on deprecated the system pursued at Brest and Toulon, which a re. He Mali Wien mate that, whenever the house had been spoken of, and, indeed, every system which pro. dad vote the missemp toe to aimplete the arch, accord- moted the congregation of criminals, a system which tended tag to its winks% Matra, it we her biejesty's wish that any to cause the revival of those bad habits which separate im farther doseeniese Or that pops. should be illustrative of prisownent was intended to remove. The sound prin. the aeldenmene side Dyke of Wellington, and such as to "pie was, to deport convicts one by one into Etre : dow ettbiLkiestry of his meats and deserts. different portions of the colonies ; but, if he a . ingnizei whether a vote of the &mad the government plan, it was still intended boxisib would be tale. rinds, aria for the pedestal wm to send them abroad en MOM. The noble lord the member I dailiadsted and apemen% bare OM artist was directed to for Hertford objected to the government plan, because it would preened with the amendeat nee, whether the statue was to put an end to *s salutary fear of transportation ; but he did remain on the se* gad the new site was provided ? not believe there was ever anything but a vogue and inde- Lord MORPIIITI =OM that in the event of the design finite notion of transportation in the minds of criminals, and estimate being prepand before the termination of the which should never be permitted as regarded a punishment. aeon, a vote would betaken before proceeding with the It was sad that the judges were is [army of transportation, execution. As to the esseed question, it would not be but their forensic habits being microscopic in their nature thought expedient to remove the statue until the pedestal rendered them unfit to take aa enlarged view of any was ready to receive it. question of policy. The noble lord also objected to the SALT MONOPOLY (INDIA.) separate system, but it was clear that wherever it had Viecouat SANDON inquired whether intelligence had been tried it bad been found successful. France, Prussia, been received of a notification published by the Deputy. and Great Britain, had sent commissioners to the United Governor of Bengal, on the 31st of March, 1847, b which States to inquire into the separate system, and they had all on sad after the Ist of April, 1847, the prices of salt in store, reported in its favour. Mr. Howe, a gentlemen of eminence in Calcutta, manufactured under the government monopoly, in America, had formerly been in favour of the silent and and the duty on imported salt, were to be reduoed, but congregate system, bat baring looked carefully into the equally, and without notice to the importers; and if so, separate erten& he had changed his opinion and become its what steps the government in this country are prepared to avocet*. The separate system permitted communion with take in respect of such enactment ? other prisoners where it was calculated to do good, Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE answered that it was true the but prevented it where contact was likely to do Indian government had thought fit to reduce, not only the harm, so that the solitary and separate systems were price, but also the duty, on British imported as well as on the not convertible terms. The plan of task-work was native salt ; and he understood from a circular be had re- far preferable to time work, and had been iutroduced by ceired from the London agent of the salt trade in Calcutta Capt. Maconochie in the colonies es well as in the prisons. that a very considerable alarm bad been occasioned by the He supported this measure because he concurred in its gene announcement of that change. The hest thing he could do rat pnocio_es,and h.lieved it was one in the right direction. was to lay on the table the papers accompanying the notifl- Mr. J. W. HOPE wished to advert to ri chore e made by cation he had received from the Indian government, and the hon. ban. the member fur Southwark, against his noble which would fully explain the motive with which the altera- friend (Lord Stanley), who, in the strongest term., placed to Lion had been made. He might, however, et the some time the account of his noble friend all those faults which, during inform the noble lord and the hou-c that he saw nothing in his whole adruinistreion, it was his struggle to to merly. lie the new regulation of which the British im porter had any would refer to the papers before the house to show the right to napkin. The rehires both In the price and the attention which his ark faked paid to this glare& In THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JUNE 5, 1847. 1613, ke remold alllua if it fulled, was te be attri buted more to hie le himeidf, although =desk he was to be Ow their use. !et he wo ldd West, time be ghee& best Altai -flirr their duties, and their perhentasee a them; sae hired this, is anteltdeeimesthe view of the matter, hie regeod bility mein net SS, =C o w as content es red ame this dof I go. th NMI es the voluminous de spatches whit* were bran its , and which would enable these tujudge whether he had faithfully performed his duty or not. It was Aft te his noble hinted to way that, let the faults of the orb= be what they might, yet, during the gereestelleit of Sir Hadley Wilted, tin reports were always istoombk. (The hon. gentlemen thin reed a mired from a diugsedt of Sir E. Wilmot, is 1848, expresdve ethis belief Me probation system wee the bed whisk wield be edged). Wes it fair to his noble friend with indifferent* er Ineetestion whin sulk a aeries of despatehes were nested Yeti He would she refer to the superintendent OHMS & bleed, in order to say that the sew guise of ?weft sum meshed from him, of the fallachmsess of Width lbws maid be se doubt what ever. 'Them met thereire a ureat difficulty in meting on in formadms emelt tieseckylfiea. With regard to the appointment of Meier Childs; he Gould 'stymy be was a captain of marines who had been etimidered to have distinguished himself in the melte, and we a disciplinarian, and after considerable difikelty in finding any one to accept the appointment, it was given to him en what was thought, good groom- Otellaidon. With respect to the Alen itself, it was pro posed now instead of sending convicts out with con. dinette! pardons, to give them tickets of leave. At present the power which existed of revoking tickets of have, ensued the future good conduct of the convicts who Medved them, while the coneession to them of conditional guides would surrender the power of coercing them, in the 1011011 i their again falling into insubordinauon, vice, and hlemerelity. This part of the proposal was made upon the swift of the Council of New South Wales • body which liner agreed to the views taken of the subject by the Trans- Cl=Committee. On the contrary, they had ever been of the assignment system; and it was obvious that they would be ready to receive ticket-of-leave convicts, be rmes that class would still be subject to discipline and coer cible. It was said that conditionally pardonedl convicts went there now • but it should be remembered that these were selected f ie risoners, who had undergone probation at the Pentonvi prison. In the plan proposed by the govern ment, there wee one strong point in its favour that was, the increased efficiency and cue, the supe riority of the control and impactionwhich it ems in tended should be kept over omelets in this ameatzy ; het he believed by . a mere liberal expenditure's ids serpos4 the difficulties 'ruing front the want of easiest gegeffine femdence abroad would, in a great measure, be emeleme. This superintendence ought to be confided, not te ale. rata hands, but to a higher class of public alma, who would only undertake each • duty on receiving adequate remuneration. If this was done on the other side of the world, as in the Isle of Wight and Portland, the evils which had been complained of as having occurred abroad, would never have taken place. It was admitted that separa tion and seclusion was part of the system to be carried out. la this country this system could only be effected by the ortilledal means to be created by the erection of gaols. Now abroad, in Van Diemen's Land for instance, where tale den was provided by nature, and whence there would be no chance of escape, these objects would be compatible ; but, in fact, if earned out here, would convert this Bantry Ma a penal colony. The only instance where this suss praecied was in Fronts ; but what was the result? Os the inhumation of an eye-witness he could state, that, in order Si meintain subordinative among the convicts, they were lasted in sleeping apartments in a row, with a 121 b. manes tided, and *sentry standing through the night with • lighted match. This would not be borne in this country. He contended that the evils inflicted upon the colonies by the trampertation to them of our convict population, were by se same such as they were described, and he referred, la swam of his view, to the unexampled progress which bed him made by New South Wales. He quoted Mr. listkees account of Sydney, to prove the @opener tone of morality, civilisation, and good order in that town, and • similar testimony in favour of Van Diemen's Lan d, given by Mr. Fry, and, maintained that these colonies had owed their vasrprogresi to their establishment u penal settlements. Mr. B. DENISON had been tong of opinion that they could not go on in their existing condition, and he boiled with much satisfaction the system now developed by the go vernment. He reprobated the administration of Captain Maconochie, in Norfolk Island, as productive of the very worst consequences. In reference to the transportation committee of 1837-8, on whose unanimity the hon. baronet, the member for Southwark, so relied, the fact was, as to their unanimity, that although the committee numbered' fifteen members, there were present at their meetings. Lord John Russell, use of= attending two sittings only out of fourteen, and Sir Peel, another member, only two; a cire:unsteirm which, without any disrespect to those gentlemen, be *RIM e► serve, materially lessened the weight of their ems@ le the recommendations of the committee. He druid the Ike poets the government plan relating to tickets of knee might he modified with much advantage to the schema, ma malaise whirl related to conditional pardons. He thee& that t u held spat convicts should not be too proma to him that the system applied to from padbemt Wed In extended to elder Oa Or wise* be Wooed that a partial restored= et its aedgemoas system, or at ',sot, the establishinast of some I L lS Zwersmen st Wres t sesomm s . s li is ven be l 6' .7p s e t .. " :=it t °O; view, it would be dosed of grist adventure. lateour we so mores in Australia, that a resestino . n ,.. of labour s's , to the number of 270, wee sabseeled • ly, the men ' at MN denied with high were and rations. He bid theit dip oiseleed a heir ken ea animist colonist, we leember et that harem, XL Maas, who said, "If do not semi us at ones a =Spiv of free labour, in wen's name give us back the di m o ment system." With thaw ebiervations, ke wee quite Minhird to leave the queries la M. beads of the government Ilk I. PAILINOTON not 011•1111111 unqualified sp. =aledes poommat plan. At the seem dam, he ll Si hen been proposed in the beet spirit, and seder the pmemen d sespmeing difficulty. It appeared Si bias the* the course the government had taken was • preci pitate mien and that tney had failed in bringing the mea sles helm the loose in that completeness sad with that can Shish eme smeary to ensure its complete swenss. (Hear.) SW wee seedy Si admit that the present dj 'mdful syitem dew peed Wades could not be malaise& The pasha den eyeless might have been justly emiamerekliee eedge. mud *ism might have partially Med. bid Old WWI II 1111111se wig the_ system of transportation Audi be (Hear, heir.) The right kirk hessest ig t lisassfary for the Home Department, =seamy Weld& MO =an experiment, but • question of such Envie& not be treated experimentally. A plea sheedi be =Zwith the best care and ability of the ir ommsnak en brought forward should he introduced sea m oment and well-digested system. (Hear, hear.) One weed as to the sentence of transportation itself. The right bin, baronet had on the previous evening dwelt upon the ease d the sentence on the individual criminal, but be had hear given sufficient weight to its effect on the public. Ina a long experience as • magistrate, he could say that s could be mere serious or important then the Influence = a sentence of transportation exercised on the friends end connexions of the condemned. He believed that tie government had not the means of carrying out their own plan. He should like to have an authentic estimate of the number of convicts to be acted on. (Hear.) It was estimated variously at from four to six thesis* and be was willing to take it at either number. He Aid that in England there were 133 prisons ; of these rely SI bed the separate system, and many had es little replies es mile exist in the prisons of former days. He a= d lh . st the seurate system was not more e es be believed that the prison at Pro= bed esemplady posted it to be the best system et pekoe dbeiplise ever edepted. (Hear, hear.) But what be we aisle= Si weer ; lila was how the right hon. beast assent to aseemmodoto all the convicts under his system. prime ellapbmil would only accommodate about ewe end Ilselleml was even worse off in regard to prim: In dui country there were 702 prisoners more than tiers wee way accommooatioa for. To the second part of themosetting plan, that of employing the convicts on the r and an extension of the hulk system in this country, he had equally strong objections. He thought that the honest I labourers of this country should not be superseded by con vitt.l ; and therefore he must meet this part of the plan with his most unqualified disapprobation. He also modsonned the sending out these convicts, after the ex phaden el the periods of their punishment here, to our colon lathe posi tion of free labourers, and with social advantages bayed thou which were extended to persons who were guiltless of crime. He wouldnupport any vote that might be proposed in opposition to their plan. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME entirely concurred in the principle oldie bill, which established one general system of superintendence under one board for the three prisons of Pentaavine, Mill bank, and Parkhurst; and, as he hoped, one arum of prison discipline fur them all. With le treseporte tion, his objection was not to that descri et pemadmeed, but to the mode in which it had been carried elk, *whop le the carelessness of the government in appelside s pulses to govern in the colonies to which convicts were seat with out fleet ascertaining their fitness, end without ariabillt ing laws f e the government of convict, in all the colonies alike, and requiring constant information that thou laws were strictly adhered to. (Hear, hear.) Seeing that the punishment of data was abolished, or nearly so, in all cases, some species of secondary punishment must be su bstituted. Ha did not object toe principle of amnia confinement, but he doubted its practicability as a general system for convicts. How was it partible to provide 20,000 or 30,000 separate places of confinement in this country, which, if all the convicts were to be subjected te that punish meet, would be required ? Look at the risk you ran, in the event of any outbreak in this country , from having so many priseuersconfined in our prisons. To guard these pri son., 10,000 or 15,000 additional soldiers would be necessary. Then the moment the convicts were removed from prison and employed in gangs on the public works all the advantages of the separate system would be lost. He thought the better course would be to re-establish the system of transportation under proper and efficient control. It was the operation of that system to au extent that absorbed the convicts gradually into the p,tpuletion that had been the chief cause of the pros perity of the colony of New South Wales. He saw no to the assignment system, if carried on within du= He believed that sy stem was a much better means of so forming min:duals than solitary confinement in this country, while, on the other band, they were made useful to ffie oountry to which they were sent, and made to condom to its prosperity. He contended that the system of Mr. Maco nochie, which held out the hope of reward to the criminal in proportion to his good conduct, was the most efft ctual m...tos of r forming him. Ile thought Mr. Maconochie had been ill-treated. He thought transportation ought to be cantiavd under well-considered arranpmente and proper Miens. He did set conaider high salaries essential to a I peeper admisktratlea of say system. There were kw saes wise amid 11141 Mi • 1111kr, 3.611181. a year. ( ) Seek seamy weal eras a era Missals unfit ■ fee the per lemma ef la elkiel eMke. (Lsegitese.) He galled apes tie ronomidlar the while quietism bare they peemein to g with the Mr. HAWS/ said that, in list hill. eakle le the 4111 11 1 1 Y ballad ] been surprised le lad that the qualities ems viewed almost • exclusively with reimemes to the Worm* of the mother country, sad thM bonny say ems of the 1164. thieve= sad downy remelts ef Leaeemuataa la Ike ademise. It the sWem had bane to invent sad empty a metre which would denseelke end degrade the 44111 iii; a /NM effective system fee that end mould not have beim emmesimid. All the accounts whisk had been received of the allasktif transporta- I floe in Nods& Island, In New Sixth Wake, and in Van Diemen's-lead, lad to the same essehefien. The hon. baronet °pries. who had spoken that fussing, admitted that the first stage of the convict's penkihmeat ought to be passed in this country ; what was sew repred was, that, at the point where the probations Mak llse=iseiled here, the , ticket-of-leave system 'holed been he Ormaportation. I In 1813 and 1848 both Lord Stanley sad Mr. Gladstone, after adverting to the evils which had arises np to that period, declared that a new eastern case absolutely nocemary. What they meaat, however, by • "new system," was simply a new penal colony. If a new colony were established, what security could be afforded that it would be free from the evils which had hitherto prevailed ? Let not the house sup pose that the greatest care had not been taken hitherto to avoid the evils complained of. The declarations of one of the ablest governors ever appointed to the government of New South Wales, namely Sir George Arthur, in the year 1838, were, in fact, applicable not merely to previous but to all subsequent systems. (Hear) If then, the greatest efforts of successive Secretaries of State, and of the ablest governments, for twenty years to effect an improvement of the system had signally failed, every man of Christian feeling, looking to the appalling results of that sys tem, must con.ider it • reproach to the country to permit its eontinuance. They were, batiks, exposed to great diffi culties in attempting to continue it. They were excluded from New Zealand, N, -w South Wales, and South Australia; they had petitions from Van Diemen ' s Land stalest it, and a strong popular feeling was springing up in thou. colonies against any convict system. Two peti tions, each signed by upwards of 3,000 persons, had been presented from New South Wales, prarag the house and government not to renew transportation to that colony ; and likewise a memorial to her Majesty to the same effect from a body of operatives who stated that the abolition of transportation had diminished crime, and added to the peace, the morality, and the welfare of society in that colony. New, no amendment of the system would satisfy these parties; and to establish a new colony without some security against a revival of the evils of the system would be manifestly unwise. The hon. baronet the member for Droitwich said that the judges were generally hostile to the plan of the guy, rainent. Many of them, on the con trary, had suggested that great improvements might be Made in the present system; and Mr. Baron Alder son went so far as to say that he questioned the right of this country to make our colonies the recep• taclee of that vice aed crime which we refused to confine within our own shores. Another point not yet touched upon was, that a proper system of prison discipline at home would be far more economical to the country, as well as beneficial to the convict, than transportation to New South Wales : and this the hen. gentleman exemplified by quot. in the calculation of Mr. Miller, the governor of the Glasgow prison, wbo stated that the excess of expenditure cf transportation over imprisonment at home for twelve hundred convicts for four years, the number being about three hundred annually, was no less than 177,9001. The coat of the convict establishment in Van Diemen's Lend was between 500,000/. and 600,0001. a year. Taking that expenditure for two years, it would build prison', at home, and leave a saving of 92,0001. The cost of an individual convict for four years and a half, being the time that he was under the government under the existing system, was' 1011. The cost of the convict for two years in Pentonville, being the time that he was to be a charge to the government under the new plan, was only 771. 19s. The advantage, therefore, with regard to spew*, was in favour of the proposed system. There was, also, another great advantage under the proposed system, namely, that if it did not make the prisoner better, it coul d not make him worse ; whereas, under the present system, the prisoner left the jail a much worse character than he'! entered it. This had a v,ry great influence on the state of • crime in the country. There was no doubt that a change was necessary in their transportation system ; and, for the sake of their colonies, it became indispensable toput an end to it. It was sapposed that this system might be amended • by what was called the assignment system ; but the house , would recollect that that system pow essed all the evil* of slavery, and had excited an opposition in this country that , could not be resisted. It was not the intention of the govern-' • ment in proposing a new system to east any reflection on former ones, but he hoped that the house would see that it was impossible to continue the present system. Mr. - NBWDEGATE moved the adjournment of the debate.—lt was accordingly adjourned to Monday next. In answer to Lord Ma/lON, Lord J. RUSSELL said that on Monday the Lord- Advocate would bring on the Scotch Registration Bills; and after that he proposed to proceed with the adjourned debate. Mr. HINDLEY moved that the following members be a Select Committee on Sunday Trading in the Metropolis : Mr. Hindle y, Sir W. Somerville, Mr. Pitt , Mr. Alderman Copeland, Mr. Brotherton, Sir De Laity Beane, Mr. Cowper, Mr. C. Berkeley, Lord R. Grosvenor, Mr. Wakley, Mr. B. i Wall, Mr. Walpole, Mr. Newdegate, Mr. Alderman Humphery, and Mr. M. Sutton. The House then adjourned at half-past twelve. ghe etriirtoo. G. B 1 Ms web* the antalla, the Ilme Ma, lima aldso, Persiwt. tn:z is her f eedelm ii ba rd arm Ayres, vdt he sods ap on the Ths aide he aids Opeda, Miss, Madeira, Cadiz, and Meal* win be 10 sa Me *dm of We 7th 111111). The weidead dewed men eta Measoldes, =he Mediterranean, =WV* MK Bead Kew& &a, beards up on the The 'Mad lads r6. ialdlidft *wise I 1 Hader, and the Memoisla, via he Ernie up am the nerstaistehe lifth hem The sae kr Mai Maeda *whs. I. ire Ms Vetted states aid be mho up es Ow arediegef the lath Jura W Ms it. wierland no ORM* MAN OMNI. the lair Want* Aden, Chyle% thedempton, wallet wade wp es th• westwards haw The wads eta New I. males Vas Mimes% load, and New Zealand aid he Erb up is alweenhi Mehl Mb law. A 11110 wills nide ap rr Mews Lams by H.H. dwarf °fowler, Wild' le awls. r at, hum Wren* WoW the 12th. Lettere, &a, mane le Esehed, Growler." TO CORRESPONDENTS. ..• Advertlimenta Wended for The &tyre" London evening pars, mug be at the Moo try Two o'clock co the day or publication. MOH WATER AT LONRON-BRIDOE. Tzes 11,2-16crekni, 12 min. past 6; AltiCoool4 Si dz. rest 6. TO.llolllloW—Worninl. 8 min. wit 7 ; Aftirows. SS =la. pea 7. LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE 5. In the House of Lords, yesterday, the select committee on the petition respecting the Bir mingham and Oxford Junction Railway Bill, was nominated. A conversation ensued on the sub ject of the blockade in the Douro, and with respect to British interference, but without lead ing to any result —Lord MONTEAOLE, in an ex ' placatory speech, replied to by Earl GREY, moved the appointment of a select committee on the subject of Irish emigration, which motion, after some obser vations from Earl FITZWILLIAM, was agreed to. In the House of Commons, on the motion of Mr. T. DUNCOMBE, Mr. WORTLEY and Mr. CARDWELL were added to the committee on the Thames Conservancy Bill. Mr. LABOUCHERE, in answer to Mr. S. O'BRIEN, replied that he had reason to believe, though not in possession of positive information, that the Irish judges bad recommended a postponement of the assizes in Ireland. A conversation ensued ou the affairs of Portugal, Mr. HUME'S motion in reference to British interference, at its close, being definitely fixed for Thursday next. Subsequently Mr. B. OSBORNE gave notice of hie intention, if the motion was not brought on on Monday next, as originally intended, to move a resolution that it is hostile to the liberties of Europe, and con trary to the uniform policy of the British government, to enter into any convention or treaty with any foreign power having for its object the maintenance of any particular dynasty in Portugal, or the suppression of popular opinion by force of arms.—Lord PALMERSTON said the papers would prove that the object of the British government was, not to establish despotic government in Portugal, but to secure to the Portuguese people all the privileges which the constitution and the charter of Don Pedro had conferred on them.—Lord J. RUSSELL observed, with respect to the report of a hostile collision in the Tagus, that his impression was, in the absence of positive information, that if any such had taken place it was between the ships of the Queen of Portugal and those of the Junta, and not between the latter and the British men-of-war. The noble lord, in answer to Mr. JOHN I COLLETT, also said it was not the intention of the go vernment, during the present parliament, to supply the deficiency in the number of members consequent upon the disfranchisement of Sudbury. The Wel lington statue again attracted the notice of the house, Lord MORPETH stating, in answer to Mr. C. BERKELEY, that the sculptor had been requested to furnish a design for an elevation and pedestal, and when approved, the site would be determined on, but the statue to remain in its present position until the new works were in a condition to receive it. The get monopoly in India, the state of the potato crop in Ireland, and the relief of Irish distress, were the next subjects discussed ; and on the thinl reading of the Loon Discount Loid his intention, but out fixing a time, of proposing a measure for the limitation or repeal of the Bank Charter Act of 1844. The adjourned debate on the subject of transportation and secondary punishment was resumed by Mr. Ew,orr, who was followed by Mr. 0. W. HOPE, Mr. E. DENISON, Sir J. PAKINGTON, Mr. Hot; and Mr. &twits ; the debate, on the motion of Mr. NEWDE GATE, standing still further adjourned to Monday next. The reason assigned by the journal which is sap posedtoak the opinions of Lord PALMERSTON, f or the B ritishnavy undertaking the task of coercing and crushing the Portuguese liberals, is, that if Great Britain did not consent to act the part of executioner, France and Spain would undoubtedly undertake it. We are thus, at seems, only half crushing the Portu guese constitutionalists, in order to prevent Spain and France from wholly crashing them. As to the possibility of our saying to Spain, " You must not intervene in this quarrel;" or our stating to M. Guam', that we would not allow him to be judge of when in tervention was necessary in Portugal, nor suffer France to support the Queen at Lisbon in treading down con. stitutional government, after having already support e d a Spanish queen in the same purpose: this, of course, would be too bold and frank a policy for the govern ment of England. Instead of any such straightforward mode of proceeding, England pretends to be of the same way of thinking with Spain and with France, affects to share their enmity for the Portugues e liberals, and proffers to act police in bombarding their towns, in exiling and fettering their chiefs, simply because they will not trust the tender mercies of the Queen and court. Such policy on the part of England, excused by such motives, strikes us as highly derogatory to the national pride, and prejudicial to our interests. Of course, the great object of French courtiers and Spanish moderados being to crush the liberals of Portugal, they are still more delighted a ith getting us to do it than with doing it altogether themselves. Such an act on the part of England ensures our being execrated by all that is liberal in Portugal, mistrusted by all that is liberal in Spain. So that, being thus left without any party in either country, no influence can remain to us but through the courts of both, a kind which the French know far better how to acquire and to employ than we do. We sincerely hope that ministers in the House of Commons will sesame some other line of defence, and put forward some other arguments than these very dis graceful ones pleaded in the Chronicle of yesterday. We donot wish to judge till the full materials for judg ment have been provided. Government, we dare say, may be able to show that it was neither hypocritical nor insincere in its previous support of the liberals, and to prove that it did its best to ensure the restoration of freedom and of the constitutional system; and that if it now takes part with the Queen, it not only be lieves the Queen sincere in her promises, but is deter mined to see those promises truly and effectively per. formed. A change in British policy, brought about by a change in the intentions and principles of con tending parties, may be defended as justifiable and proper. But to excuse this precipitate change on the ground of fear, to represent our hasty embrac ing of the Queen's cause as a trick to anticipate France and Spain in playing the same part, which we knew to be unjust to the liberals, but which we consented to adopt, lest France and Spain might adopt it—this would constitute on the part of Eng lana a line of policy, and a course of argument to sustain it, certainly very new in English annals, and of a kind which we shall refrain from characterising. If we avow such policy and such motives, it is plain that Spain and France are at any and all times our masters. They have nothing to do but to menace to pursue towards one of our allies a line of conduct, which we disapprove, in order to force us to adopt it. Let us be for a constitutional system, they for an ab solute government, they have but to threaten inter vention in order, not merely to force us to desist, but force us to execute the very intervention which they menaced, and against theparties which were our friend' and their foes ! It is quite plain that we have turned round in Por tugal—that Great Britain, represented by Lord HOWARD DE WALDEN and Mr. SOUTHERN, was for liberal and oonstitutional government, and for the party which upheld it—and it is quite clear now, that we have broken with the constitutionalist; and, under Sir GEORGE SEYMOUR and Colonel WTLDE, have become courtiers and moderados. All this requires to be explained and accounted for by honourable motives. It is not an honourable motive to say, that we did this out of fear of France, or fear of Spain. Neither would it be decorous to have done this out of devotion to the interests of the Coburg family. The only true excuse mast consist in showing that the change was made in the interests of freedom and of the liberals themselves, and in strong pledges that those interests will be protected and considered sacred. Whether government was right or wise in incurring this great responsibility is a question; but, having incurred it, we must abide by the consequences. England has been accused, at different times, of being wanting to its word, and having turned against those who trusted it All remember Paige and Genoa. But those were times of tory majorities. A British parliament would not now tolerate an approach to such things or each recollections. The accounts which have just arrived from Portu gal still leave hopes of the junta submitting. We eagerly entertain each hopes; because we think that British shot fired against the constitutionalists at Oporto, or a Spanish army under Caserta being allowed to march to the destruction of Portuguese liberals, are events highly prejudicial and discredit able to England, and especially to a liberal ministry in England. IN the absence of urgent political controversies, there seems to be some danger that in many places electors will call upon candidates for pledges as to their future conduct on religious or quasi-religious questions. The government system of education, the removal of Catholic and Jewish disabilities, the policy to be adopted with respect to the Irish Roman Catholic clergy, may furnish points of union for electoral combinations, and means of checking or favouring the interests of candidates. The feeling of the country in favour of the proposed scheme of educa tion has been so strongly and generally declared, that it may be hoped few members will be found who will be inclined to compromise their own opinions in favour of the busy minorities who may try to secure by action at the hustings a future reversal of the decision of parliament. There are other ques tions, however, on which candidates may be tempted, by the hope of support or fear of oppoeition, to fettar thetnse:ves unnecessarily and perniciously. They Will know that few votes are to be gained by a Preto", of religious liberality, and they may think that it is worth while to purchase freedom of action in general politics at the expense of binding themselves to abet and farther the religious prejudices of . a portion of their constituents. Members . of parlia ment are not, in general, strong believers m the no popery cry ; but too many of them know that it counts for fifty or five hundred votes at as election, and that these who do not raise it are nevertheless indifferent to its repression. If the pro testantism of England was, as it is not, in danger, we might not be indispo sed to warn our countrymen at the impending evi l : but, even in that case, We doubt whether acts of parliament would be our most eS clout safeguard. They have not done much for scriptural religion in Ireland; and if the people.of England were to be seized with a miraculous Wines of all their present convictions and dispositions, lad to rush frantically into the arms of Rome, it seems to us that the House of Commons could do nothing but submit to ratify the marvellous national conversion. It is really time that the persecution or repression of po pnl should cease to be coneidered as apolitical object. Above all, it is time that those who claim to lead, to= sent, and to govern their countrymen should p at least, as much liberality and enlightenment as the, really possess. Same ultra-liberal c andidates ha" already promised to vote for the repeal of the May nooth act—not, certainly, from any hope or wish that the act should be rescinded, but from a s ervile fear d the ultra-protestant cliques who may in a balaseat constituency have it in their power to disperse the representation. A tacit understanding , awl as that which governs persons of the mar trade in business, and lays down for that mutual benefit the rules which are to gove l and restrict their competition, ought to be adopted rival candidates. The points on which they rsalY agree, such as (in nine cases out of ten) the poor-lav and the 11Nnuotli grant, ought to be consular(' au'