The Express. — London, England, 1851-03-28 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, MARCH 28, 1851. which such committee was sprinted to be chosen. In this The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought t e l e i r da tri y VCll co the Ilth inst./ and Tuesday, the Oust, considering they were all agreed, the; lied occupied on which the committee fur the ht. Aimee time Alton waeehecoseary in diseussiag the shatter. I,tticae . . , e"c aith Albn. election was to be appellate dby the goinmattet of Re beg oleo suggest that the motion Mend as follows: "That ebinesittee be apteinted t ' nquire into the vita wleceMn ; and the question for the deasion a the scone was, whether this involved fourteen clear days' soda. 'blishmen oral 'steam communication between Luella and The prayer of the petition era% that the sitting member be China, and a n tiOtellabilies of any improrement therein ; declared duly elected without flee proceedMics • and into thailkast of mifiablishiwg a steam communica- Atter a short discussion , the Wien was ordered to be tion with 002 Australian cohialeJ ( Checn.) printed, and it was understood t t the matter was to be ref[ r a few words from Mr. CARDWELL. talon into consideration to-moerow. J. D. ACLAND suggested that Plymouth would be a MINISTERS' MONEY (IRELAND). more convenient point of departure fur the Oriental mails, Mr. REYNOLDS gave notice that to-morrow he would however despatched. sole the First Lord of the Treasury whet her it was the in- Sir F. T. HARING hopedllic house would not threw on tention of government to introduce a bill this erosion for the ennmittee too extensive innuiries. Alreaoly a commis the abolition of ministers' money in Ireland. sion had been appointed by the Admiraltv, who had the tiI'IRIT DUI ES. subject of communication with America before them, and Lord NAAS gave notice that as soon aa possible after they did not find the task a very easy one. Easter he would renew his motion of last year with regard Mr. ADDEIILEY objected to any inquiry respecting to the spirit duties. Australia, which was unnoweinary, uncalled for, and heel LANGUAGE OF ACTS OF PARLIAMENT. been tacked to the fag end of the motion DE nu object, the Mr. J. STUAItT gave notice of his intention to intro- Chancellor of the Exchequer having already nude up his lure a bill for the purpose of shortening the language of mind upon then übject. acts of parliament. After a eion of some length, the motion, as TRINITY HOUSE (HULL). framed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, with the addi- Mr. HC ME gave notice that to-morrow he would move tiou at the end of the words "and New Zealand, - proposed for a returnuf the revenue and expenditure of Triaigelowee, by Mr. Aftlionbv, was agreed to. at Hull. SPANI - Sll DIFFERENTIAL DUTIES. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BILL. Mr. ANDEILSON rose to call the attention of the house Mr. STANFORD gave notice that to-morrow he would to the differential duties levied on British ships in the ports ask the noble lord at the head of the government whether, of Spain; and to move," That, with a view to the just in committee ou the Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Bill, protection of British navigation and commerce, it is es the goverument were determined to confine the bill to the client that under the provisions of the act 12 and 13 first clause, or if they would agree to render the pre- Vie ., c. 29, such additional duties ehould be levied in the visions of the measure more stringent by enlarging the ports of the British empire upon goods imported or es penalties, Se ported in Spanish ships, and on the tonnage of such ship., SUGAR DUTIES. as may serve to countervail the differential duties on goods Mr. GEANTLEY BERKELEY gave notice that on as and tonnage levied iu the ports of Spain and her &peados early a day as possible alter Easter he would move that the cies on British alio." The subject was one of emesider present differential duty on foreign sugar, cleared for helm able national importance. Differential duties were apt consumption, should be continued for five years from the duties imposed for the purposes of revenue, hut for the sake let of July, IMI. of giving a monopoly or an advantage to the shipping or DISTURBANCES IN COUNTY DOWN. products of one country over another. Spain had carried I i answer toe question from Mr. Room, adverting to this system to an extreme, far beyond any other country; I the circumstance , reported in the lf-rptvri of Tuesday, con- and its operation hail heroine extremely injurious, so as to meted with an outbreek near Banbridge, county Down, obstruct the general commercial intercourse with that ' Sir W. SOMERVILLE sail he had received some papers country. Its effect was well described in a petition he in ref fence to this unfortunate outbreak of the people at had presented, which was signed by many of the most Banbridge, but as he had not yet hod sufficient time vs eminent firms in London, bye number of shipowners, and look them liter he could not say whether there were any of by &considerable numberanative Spanishmerthants resident them which he could lay en the table. The report he dud in London. The petitioners watedtioat front le2i to the end of rec iveol was from the constabulary, aaol these reports were 11119 the ships of Spain haul been admitted into our ports generally of a confidential nature. If, however, he re. on the same terms as British ships. From the commence- rived any report which was not of a emitaliontial character, meut of loce.) the buryingcarrn trade of this country from all freak the government in Ireland on tin s subject, he would parts of the world u open to Spanish ships on the have great pleasure in laying it on the table. Mite terms as British ship. • but, so far from this liberal AMERICAN TARIFF. policy losing reeponded to lr ' y Spain, she had levied addi• Mr. BOOKER begs(' d to ask the President of the timed duties on all good , imported under the British flag, Board of Trade, if the government had received any infer • th e object being to exclude th e ships of other countr ies from matins, end i t they would lay it before the houw, of the any parteepatiou in the carrying tattle to or from her own nature and extent of the increase in the protective duties ports, and thus scare a monopoly for her own chips. .In I propowel to he levied on the import into the United States proportion as the British legislature had relaxed its policy of all kinds of iron, and on varwus other articles of British favour of renege Kappshiing at ha d incremetl lier produce and manufacture now exempt from duty ? restrictions ; and this driven a large amount of British Mr. LABOUC ti Elie" had inquired at the proper quer- tonnage out of the Spauith earning trade in which it hail ter we to whether any re port had been received from Sir IL been formerly employed. TM; net for the repeal of the Itulwer on the subj . - e t to which the lion. gentleman (Mr. navigation laws supplied a remedy fur such a suite of ' Booker) referred, and he had found that no sitepatch load things; but, though nearly lo months had elapsed I been rm. ived from him (Sir 11. liulwir) land after thew since that act came into force, the provision had ' transactions were steted to hove taken plain. Ile (Mr. not been enforced, and the petitioners cuutinued ' Lebow-here) had observed from the American newspaper. subject to a grievance which ought long since to have been, that ouch alterations in the American tariff had passed the done away. Comparing the duties lent don Spanish ships Howse of Assembly, but they had nut passed the senate. herr with those imposed on British ships in the ports of RAJ .1.11 BROOK E. Spain, he found that the latter paid about one-third more. In reply to queries from Mr. liaise, Lord PALMER- In the Spanish possession abroad the same system existed Sit Of stated that Sir James Crooke still heel the offices of in full force. At Cuba, the duty . on goals in British ships Governor of leolouan and Consul-General to the sultan and was 21 to 30 per cent.; in Spanish ships, 7 to 21 per cent. I initepondent chit le of Borneo. With respect to the district Goods exported in British ships paid 6', per cent.; those in of Sarawak any authority exercised therein by Sir Jetties Spanish chips, for foreign ports, .11 per cont.—for Spanish wash derived front eome private arrengement with the sultan , p orts, 21 per coot. At present th'ere were loadi of whng in tich he a ., th e British cantonment claimed no joirasliction in a ter- port of London 23 schools els fur Spanish porn, 19 ritury which slid not le long to the British crown. were Spanish vessels. It was well known that her system LAND THROWN OUT OF CULTIVATION IN of differentialduties operated most iujariously on connuerce, I ILE L.Cii D. without at all improving her own navigation. An instance Sir 11. W. BARRON begged to ask the Secretary for came under his own knowledge of a British vessel and a Delano' whether the govennuent could Rive tiny return of Spanish vessel leaving the port of London, the former in the land thrown out of cultivation in Ireland since the year ballast, the latter with a freight, both being bound for the , 1816, or any titer period ? elate port, llilboa, in Spain. The weather having come ten 1 Sir W. SOMERVILLE answered in the negative. threatening, the Spanish vessel put into Ramsgate, whilst ' , TILE CENSUS. th e British vessel continued her voyage, reached Bilboa , Mr. GOULBUIiN said the right hon. baronet (Sir G. watery she took in a cargo of wool, :/1111 absolutely reached Grey) had stated the other day that it a a., not binding on the London Dock before the Spanish vessel cleared hams-' clergymen to fill up the schedules sent them connected with gate. (licar, hear.) It did nut unfrequently occur the census and requiring particulars as to income, &c. Ile that Spanish vessels occupied three months in going from anolerstood that in c lees where the required iisforisiatiou the Shetlaed. to Billsou, as long a period as from here to' . hail been refined by the ministers, the enumerator heel put Calcutta. (Deer.) Now, in moving that this remedy be the schedule into the hand, of other parties. This lee con- adopted, he begged to be uuderetood WI not pros entered was not right. posing anything which could be considered as a wino Sir G. GREY said he had certainly stated that ministers greesino policyme. the manure wee merely defensive. of religion were not bound to answer the queetioons regard- Ile betteed too , beco move the resolution which he had already hie income our those with reference to education, but if read to the house. clergynu u mimed to give information on these subject, it The SPEAK' ER. was understood to intimate that the inn was the duty of government to apply to parties who had lion as it stood was irregular, and the only way in which it information quite as correct as the clergymen could supply, could be made regular, won, by moving that the house 111 oeder that the public should derive the greatest possible should, on a future• day, consider the resolution. amount of infermation. The 110 N. GENTLEMAN having it. shaped hi: resolution, I ' Mr. tiOULIWItN thought that if the elergeman declined in c o mpliance with the euggeetion of the Speaker , 110 supply the information, it was nut right that other par- Mr. toi , 'EAT secontlea the revolution, and in doing so ties Aimed furnish it. said he could confirm all that had been maid by the INCOMES OF AIteIIBISHOPS and IsisltOrs. honourable gentlemen who 'omelette' him. Spain had Sir B. HALL gave notice that he would, to-morrow, ask shown a most arrogant disregard to everything, the noble noble et the head of the government when he and seemed resolved not to conic to a fair under rate end that the retunos mould be ready regarding the in- standing unless toned into one ; and he therefore comes of arehhiehoope and loishope thought it became a question with her Majesty's govern leF:SlGNS ACT EXTENSION BILL. mint if they should not try a coercive policy. By refusing Mr. ItICAILDO inquired what number of individuals to admit Spanish sugars from the Havanna and Spanish wino likely to avail theumelvm of the Designs Act Emma fruits and wine, from Malaga into English poets, unless on slum 11111 ? the same COUditiolls that English loottoeus entered Spooned' Hr. LA BOUCHERE said lie believed, from the infer- ports, Spain would SOOll become more clamorous for justice matinee which had reached him. that a gnat many pianos, than English traders were at the present moment. (Hear.) Moth in this und in other countries, were looking fireweed The question being put, to the posing oof this Immure to protect inecutiuus which Mr. LABOUCHERE said it was undoubtedly true that, they intended t. exhibit. He was not, however, able to in the first place, Spain did levy diecrimineting du state the number. Liss in her ports, upon goods exported and imported RAVINGS BANKS. in British ansi other foreign vessels, as compared with In reply to Mr. 11. newsreel*. Spanish vessel, of a very onerous description; and, The C 1 ANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER. maid that a so coolly, that she, in certain easels, traded our bill fior the regulation of saviors banks was in readiness, tracks ilifferently, not only from that of her own and would he inneiaht forwent if the public business 'Mudd subjects, but from the trade of other foreign nations. begin to move more rapidly, so as to afford a fair chance of Under the second head of complaint the must important gutting it pease item was the harbour dues charged in Spain, and exacted RULES OF THE 1101.75 E. from British vessels, Which was not the case we regarded Mr GRANT LEY BERKELEY, briefly referring to French vessel , . Sonic time since the Spanish government, ' some resent weiti s, inquired of OW chair whether it was on complaint being made to the m, undertook to set that ' pseible so to extend the rules under which &hetes , were right I but in point of fact every gentleman would recollect' monotones' as to prohibit the intneloction of matters col- that the cooly way in which that Condit be done was by Spain I hetively insulting to any body oe member , in the house. entering into a convention with England , on winch, on an The SPEAK Elt stated that the regulations now iu force order issuing, the treasury uvula be empowered to pay on in that house consisted of unwritten hews, deriving their foreign goods entering our harbours. (Hear, hear.) Bat authenticity from ancient observance. Around this code, Spain said she would nut enter into any such convention. however, there was a %monetary eerie., of rules, based upon She claimed free action; and said " let you do it yourselyee, courtesy and good feeliier, which he trusted would be suffi- and we will rollers your example." Now, he (Mr. labou r chew to preserve the personal mid religious sensibilities of there) thought that a moet unfriendly act un the part of I bon. members from inoolt. Spain. His noble friend (Lori Palmerston) had renewed his P I.: SEY ISM. complaint% on that point, and lie doubted not Spain would Mr. B. OSBORNE now to say, that in addressing the comply finally. But if she should not, then he thought it Melee lately, he hail been uss i ttt entionalle led into error would be time enough to come before that house, and seek *toile quoting on the authority or the 13nily Noes state- for powers to compel her to enter into such convention rnente in reeerenee to the Malmo of Oxford. lie (Mr. (tlear, hear.) Now, with respect to the manner in which Oeleorne) hail mid that, in answer to an address from ('hip !vain treated British vessel', with respect to navigation mod ponhain, the bishop denied there was any tractarieniem doubtless to protect her own shipping, no one could more amongst the decry of his diocese' Ile (Mr. Osborne) had deeply feel the great injury that was in corsequence in alesetatoel, on the authority of the Daily Se les , that the Watoll on navigation than himself. But he could nut help ' I loiehop had appointed Dr. Piney preacher to the university thinking that the chief injury of that prescriptive policy church at Oxford. The right rev. prelate had sant him a weeded on Spain herself. (hear, bear.) It was a fact communication stetting that he (the bishop) had not denied notoriou+ that on the least expectation of bad weather they ' there were any tneetarians in his. diocese, but had stated put into Itanneate and ether pone for three or four days, that only in one part of his diocese—the areholeaconry of and then took three or four days more to deliberate before Buckingham —were there anyclergymen of allomenising ten- again putting to ma. (blear, hear.) Such a course as that dioney. 'Ehoo bishop further staid that Dr. l'u-ey had never was no strung encouragemmt to the legislature of this lean appointed preacher by any one to the university coming reot urging to a restrictive policy in mentor...4.f nevi . hurch of Oxford, nor had he (Dr. fusty) been appointed ;ration. (Hear, hear.) It was true that, by the repeal of by the Bishep of Oxfonl to preach anywhere. the navigation laws, they had thrown open the carrying AFFAIRS ON TIIE .te'IIICAN FRONTIER. trade of the world to Spain as well as to all other nations; Mr. ADDEBLEY pee notice that in going into corn- therefore Spain, in particular, could not be regarded as a mitten of supply to-morrow, he would move that the ques- competitor. No nation that had an obstructive system was tins of a definitive mottle ment of our policy on the South to be feared by England in the carrying trade of the world; .tfric.ut frontier be immediately referred to a select corn- and whilst corupeting with America and the Baltic, England mince. • had shown lees olispoition to fear than any foreign nation. ItEGIS'IRATIONe OF 111111113. &e., IN IRELAND. (Hear, hear.) It would be a great object col:duly' to get Mr. SCI'LLY tweeted to ask whether it was the inteu- the question of differentiel duties repeal.' or settled alto lion of government to introduce a bill this session fur the gather. He knew it was a matter which inflicted injury on nerietration of births. death., and marriages ? the trade of the hon. member for Orkney and Shethoud in I Sir W. SOMERVILLE answered in the negative. crippling his trade and narrowing his market. Ile was also IMPROVEMENT OF TOWNS (IRELAND) BILL aware how it effected the Newfoundland trade; and all he Mr. REYNOLDS inquired whether it were the intro- would then say was thatahe question had not been lost tion of government to add any names to the committee on sight of by her Majesty's government. (Hear, hear.) They thin bill ? were at that moment in correspondence with the Spanish Sir AV. SOMERVILLE replied in the affirmative. government on the subject ; but as yet the uegotiostion* had STEAM COMMUNICATION WITH INDIA, not been brought to a conclueion. Ile trusted, however. Allf It AI.IA, Ace. that the house would not now interfere, by coining to a Lord JOCELYN moved for a committee to inquire into vote, with a subject which was notch better iu the 'muds of the existing ennui comenuniattium between England and the government. (Hear, hear.) India, and to modeler the subject of steam communication 'Mr. Alderman f lIOMPS'ON thought this was a case having fur its object a line or limo connecting England, provided for by the late set. Spain Kea had the benefit of !notes. and Australia. Among other reasons for this motion, the repeal of our navigation laws, and if we took no men the main ground. he maid, wee the discussion which teok suns agaitist a nation which refused to reciprocate, the place het wesion between the Chancellor of the Exchequer Dutch might follow the temple of Spain. Anil Sir James Hogg relative to the existing contract with Mr. HUME would like to see the correspondence referred the Peninsula and Oriental Company. Ile thought it was of ~ to by Mr. Labouehere. While he regretted that other importance that inquiry Arnold precede any further arrange- I nations, even enlightened ones, had net reciprocated with meats. Lord Jocelyn adverted to the state of the existing us. he would rather put up with this evil than violate a arrangement., and to the allegations of Sir C. Wieel principle. lest tear a. to the objection. offered on the part or Mr. 'MILNER GIBSON said he hoped his hon. friend, the least India Coompauy. toweled chiefly upon the after hiving heard the speech of the right hon. gentleman prejudice which the arrangements proposed by the (Mr. Lalsouilere) would not press his motion to a die i.e.'s. government would occesien to the Indian navy. He indi- (Hear. hear.) lie would consider it a most precipis se did the venom points to which Ise thought the inquiries tate and improper proceeding if the government of Ode of the committee might be directed, one of the most im- count'? were lo adopt a policy of retaliation against Spain extant being to determine the best mode in which a eon- under the existing relations between the two countries. n e et ,,e se ,. communication m i g ht b e affected between (Hear, bear. The right hon. gentleman informed them Engine'. India, end Australia. : that Speiu had made many reductions in her tariff to the Lord N AAS moved an amendment, which proposed tore• extent of 33 per cent. (No. no.) verse the order of subjects of the committee's inquiries; Mr. LABOUCHERE said that what he had stated was they should begin. be thoucht, with steam communication that the diecriminating duties on goods brought iutu Spain between India. England. and Australia, which should he in fun ern navels, which were as he understood 33 ver ,se port, dupou in the tint instance. Ile enumerated the in- cent., had been reduced to 20 per cent. when the Lora ST. .ALBANS ELECTION ronse•.r• or, • arising from a want of such communication. was altered in IstS. Mr. M. G IlleON said it would, in h p i n s v o ik pi:: . on w, , h% l7 , : ii n th ms e t y Mr. AGLIONBY prevented • petition, which he said and the eircumstanee, which had hitherto defeated it. wee important, as affecting the peoreedings of the house. Mr. GLADSTONE oinegelotood that it would be inex- unfortunate if a ft er having abolished the nevi t' I It anus out of the electiou at St. Alban.. soil proceeded p client to tie up the hands of the committee as to the order they wen to withhold from Spain those i gpia..n..-,touanldl,orth t heer nations.ol g I n aWi, elnavi l gt i tio w nta d w t : ' t w o hi imi cli ta : c or w m e h Le t rta s ::ii k e d boo Mr. Coppeek, the agent for the sitting member. It el their proceeding. ng stated all the CADVMAGUSASI. and the pi:thin...or :eked that . After a few words from Mr. F. Sean, ...owlet be read by the clerk at the table. It was, how- Mr. OLeCOREGOIt expressed • fear that if the amend- advantages to all other countries by all and perhaps the object would be answered meat were carried the subject would be entombed in this g eels iu their own ships to the Britieh°e:lt.ofiseitine2s.. years, fur ' that it be printed with the Totes, to be committee to the end of the session. He believed that withheld these advantage!. from Spain (o a r s anew. o the yr ., 1 „....! fir the Americans to supply n steam common iii April, 1828, on order in coUneil was w as , how e ver, read by the clerk., and the DR' lA,O with the Australian E' , loTheS was perfectly pear- " tll.ot vessels loloneilag to Spain wore ant to h e '..,ll e L lri o a n t g o 'curd on any direst trade been e Spain . far as we could isthyr, appeared to be that , notable ; and he was, therefore , exceedingly jealous of delay.c llf Vie, est. 911, ass it wan provided that Mr. HUME recommended Lord Naas to withdraw bio sesseuns abroad." What might be expected, as the effect u their withholding from Spam in particular for twenty years, dew amil poem se idea a etemittee should amendment ly way simile polities &odd be published Po. ANDERSON defended the Peninsular and Oriental privileges which they gave to the ► rest of the world ? Why, 1 , amiss dm Massa days beton the day on . Company from certain rcinariu of Lord Jocelyn. this, at least—that . it was no reason to make Spain lees restriMive or more liberal towards this country—(scar, hear)—and it was only by adoeting and carrying out a li beretpailev that Spain could be expected to move in dui `direction of free trade. (Hear, hear.) Having been in the Shetland Isles last autumn, he received certain information there which made him doubt whether the constituency of his hon. friend approved of the proposition made by hint un the present occasion. (Hear, hear.) Ho hoped his hon. friend was not in earnest in bringing forward this proposition, and that be did so rather with a view to get the Spanish differential duty removed, than with a view of inducing the government to reverse their po licy. the noble lord (Palmerston) would date what had l eaen done by the government of th is country. aad that ho would assure them that in all his communications to foreign governments, he declared that England would always regulate her policy in reference to the people of this country, and would not make her commercial policy con tingent on the views of foreign countries. (Cheers.) Lord PALMERSTON agreed with his hon. friend who introduced this motion, that it was ouc of considerable importance to a large portion of the community. He also agreed with him that they hail good cause of com plaint against the Spanish government, for the course they had pursued—a complaint, however, which applied more to a long comae of prejudice, in reference to commer cial matters, than to any recent disposition to follow iv wrong and unjust policy. (Rear, hear.) In fact, as stated by his right hon. friend, the Spanish govern ment relaxed rather than increased the tariff of late. But both Spain and Portugal were behind most other nations in regard to the principles which should regulate their commercial policy. (Hear, hear.) Spain, however, was beginning to move—(hear, hear)—and he hoped she I would not follow the example of the Span:ah captain alluded to by his hou. friend. Though she did not move on the first change of wind, and though she was not ready to follow the example of this country, he trusted that she would not wait like the Spanish captain, who waited Jok ing at the weather-cock in ltamsgate harbour whilst the British sailor made his voyage to ltilboa and back. (Hear and a laugh.) Spain had 20,000 of the most active and useful of her population employed in the custom', and she had an equal number of smugglers, so that there were PAO persons employed in preventing any revenue in mining into the treasury. (liver, hear.) He hoped the Spanish government were beginning to pursue u coarse that would be more advantageoua to Spain, and increase the commerce between the two countries. lie could aasure the house that her Majesty's government had been en gaged, and were engaged, in urging on the Spanish go- I s‘ ailment those points to which his hon. friend referred.' (Ilear, hear.) The house would nit expect him to enter Otte all the arguments which had been used on oue side and one the other; but he would say that the government of this country urged their orpiment's in the way that they thought would be most likely to aeonuplish the object in view. (Ilear, hear.) He hoped his lion. friend would not press his motion to a division, as he thought that any appearance of division in the House of Commune would he prejudicial to the object which his hon. friend had in view. (Hear.) There were two distinct questions between them and Spain. The first was the question of the Niue cent differential duty, leak d upon them in common with all other nations. lm that respect they stood, there fore, on the footing of the most favoured nations , as it is I Called; hut in the present instance it might well be called of the most unfavourest nations. (Hear and laughter.) I With regard to that point, they dealt with Spain on general principles. In the other case the grievance they had to complain of was greater; fur French vessels were allowed au advantage over British vessels in Spanish ports. They had come to a conclusion in reference to this matter, anal the only difference was as to the method of giving elfiet to it. But where both governments were agreed on the common object they could not long disagree as to the particular mode of carrying it into execution. (Hear, hear.) Ile bagged his hon. friend to be contented with the effeet which this discussion would have on the Spanish government, which would convince them, on the one hand, that the British parliament felt the grievance, and that, on theother, they desired to trade with Spain on largo and liberal prin ciples of commercial relations. (('heers.) Mr. BAN KES did not think the explanation of the noble lord to be satisfactory , and he would oppose the with drawal of the motion. Mr. CARDWELL was glad that the motion had been brought forward, for it would show Spain that this country was not asleep in rase she was not met in a Lir spirit of reciprocity. (Hear, hear.) He hoped that the House of Commons would not take this matter out of the hands of the government, and take the decision of it into their own, which would be the effect if this motion was ISUCCelial• fut. (Hear, hear.) Mr. WAWN supported the motion. Ho thought they should either repeal the clause in the navigation act , or enforce it when they ought to do so. (Bear, bear.) Mr. RICARDO did net think that they wool.' mend matters by retaliating on Spain. (Ileta, hear.) If they were to adopt a policy of retaliation, * Spain would retort upon them, and so retaliation would go un till the 700,04.10/. exporta which they now sent to Spain would he reduced to nothing. lee did not think the lionnurable gentleman took a wise course fin. his conditaenta in pressing this motion Ida did not see how it could possibly benellt them to levy a tax on their own commodities, in order to increase the sale of them, fiir that was what the proposition amounted to. (Hear, hear.) He believed the effect of the propuaitnin would lie very diferent from what the hon. gentkinan who moved it thoualit it would be. (Hear, hear.) Mr. AHD said the bill repealing the navigation laws was visaed un the understandiug that if foreign na tion, did not reciprocate the government would give teect to this elanst, and in a letter which he received from bi.. con stituents at Whitehav, n three or four days ago, which was accompanied by a petition in favour of the motion, anen t' was drawn to the feet that the petition was sign' dby several shipowners of that port who supported the policy if the government. The noble lord (Lord Palmerston) had observed that Spain was beginning to move. She was be ginning to move, and he would show in what direetent. In the year coiling January 5, 1810, the last year of the operation of the navigation laws, there entered inwards from spain 117 vessels, with an aggregate tonnage of 17,n2 tons. In the succeeding year the number of ships in creased to 150, and the tannage to 23,712. (flyer.) If the clause were introduced in wail faith, why was it not car ried into effect ? 'they should no longer trust to trifling negistiations un the subject. Mr. mautiELL said his constituents were deeply in terested in this question. They had a large trade with Newfoundland, and they felt it was much injured he these differentia! duties. Ile thought, however, that the the pre sent the aanttcr should be left in the hinds of the nuble lord at the bead of the Foreign-office. (Ilear.) Mr. NEWItEGATE said the evil complained of sprang from the fallacious notion that one country could dictate the commercial policy of the world. Cord J. RUSSELL said he would not then enter into the general question of the policy of the navigation lowa, though whenever the hon. gentleman (Mr. Newdegate) chose to introduce that question the result would, he thought, be found more favourable than he appear d to imagine, and it would be beta that the nations of the world had been led to adopt a more liberal policy. There were exceptions, but they were few in number, and the cases were not those of nations of great maritime power. Mr ANDERSON, in reply, said he thought the object would be best promoted by leaving the matter in the hands of the noble lord (Lord Palmerston), and intimated (or was understood) thud he had no wish to divide. As, however, there were loud culla for a division, The house divided, when there appeared I " Ayea Noes COURT OF • . 93-45 Lord J. IttSSELL—I rise for the purpose of bringing before the house a most important subject. If the proposal I have to make solely concerned the administration of jus tice, I certainly should have been disposed to ask those who are more familiar with the proceedings ic courts of justice to ands rtake the task which I now propose to per form. But feeling that the Aire of Lord Chancellor, and all that is connected a ith his high functions, deeply atrial the whole of the government and legislation of this country, I have undertaken this ta.k, thinking it better that the whole views of the government should be stated, than merely those view.: width consented the present distribution of otfiee as connected with the functions of the Court of Chancery. In bringing the question before the house, I shall first state the changes that have been made since 1512, when the hill appointing vice-chancellors was passed through parliament. In 1511-12, it was found that the dohs, which were performed by Lord Eldon were of so laborious a nature, as that notwithstand ing the known industry, ability, and learning of that eminent judge, it was con,iderial =possible that he should Is able to perform all his duty in court together with his duty .as supreme judge in the 111)113.e of Lords us a court of appeal. Lrd Itedeolale snored for the appointment of a committee in the House of Lords, and soubsequs ntly a bill was brought in appointing a she chancellor. I find it stated in the life of Lord Eldon that Lord Reolesdale said the arrears of appeals and writs of error then amounted to 274 CAW., which, according to the (then) present rate of deepatch would require 12 or 13 years for their disposal, to say nothing of the new arrears which would accumulate iu the interval. It was therefore decided by the House of Lords that a new judge should be appointed under the title of Viee-Chancellor to perform part of the duties of the Lord Chancellor. It was said at the time, and by no less a person than Sir Samuel Remaly, that the appointment was , not necessary, and that the business then before the Court k of Chancery was, iu fact, not much greater in amount than . it Lad been in the time of Lord Hardwieke. Lord Cotten • , ham in 1S:10, in making statement, in support of the bill then introduced. slid that Sir Samuel !tamale was miss : taken iu that respect, and showed by returns how much greater was the amount of business in Lord Eldon's than I in Lord Hardwicke's time. Yet I rather think there woo very great foundation for the statement made by Sir Samuel Hominy, for I find in the report of what was stated heLord Cottennaw, and front the return, which had obtained, that while he stated that from 1781 to 1764 the cases were 411, and that they had increased in 18:31-183.1, taking the average of years, to 1,283, being more than three times as many, vet that he stated at the same time that the CHAP. from 1810 to 1512, on an average, were no more than 540. It would appear, therefore, that there had been an enormous in crease of lousMess,consequent ou the appointment Ofthe vice chancellor, and that there was nut at the time of the appoint ment a very great numberof eaa a then waiting to be heard. 1 I3ut I Imagine the fact to have been that the delay which s' prevailed at that time in the Court of Chancery, and the inadequacy of judicial strength in that court, resulted in the Cut that m say matters whifh would have come before the court, if there were a prospect of an early settlement, were withheld, and in that way injustice was done to suitors who would otherwise have appeared in that court. (Hear, hear.) I find that while from 1810 to 1812 the average of cases was 310, that from 1823 to 1836 the average was 945. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF I.()111/S.—TIltlita0AY, MARCH 27. The Loan C RANI ;mum took his seat at five o'clock. I'ET ILION PILESENTED. Rartotato TO Beal. —By Lord ItEDESDAI.E, from Ckichester„ complaining of the conduct of a clergyman in refusing to bury a corpse. COUItT OF CHANCERY. Lord 111t01 . 6 HAM pm* , nted a petition front an inolici dual, complaining of the enormous X:,l s and delays of the Court of Chancery, and praying for redress. Lord LYNlflltlits'l mid the '1 ru-t Dill, which he bed int/odors' .0111..; years ago ,a year had effected a s arinf i l b. 2o . . t oool loo . iu fee., and dispensed with the services f n. Lord BROUGHAM said the bill of his noble and learned friend had effected a greet deal ; but much more remained to he done. Ilis noble and learned friend and himself knew many suits in In the reda Orwhith had anionnted to more than 2,0001. In small rues, involving 2004 ere 3130 L, peraow, could ant obtain redress in equity because of the amount a cost/ incurred. . y should lay on the table I on Monday • hill to remedy this evil. DEMOCIIATIC SOCIETII•A OF FOREIGNERS IN I I.ON DON. Lonl I.YNI)IICR4'I wished to call the attention of lit r IMM:sty's government to • subject of con siderable itiooortance as regarded the tranquillity of this country, and our word undt standing with foreign powers. He Wiwi. tl to what he must call, to use the mildest term, the is prehensilde conduct of certain to:chattel , in this country now living under the protection of our laws. It hail always been the practice among us to afford an asylum to persons dric, n from their town country in ronaequence of their religion. or political opinions, and h , Ilia not wish to trench on that prineiple, for it app ;wed perfectly in accord once with that which should be the policy of an enlightened, generous and powerful country. but it must always be re menthenal that this protection imposed on the preens to whom it was eatended u corresponding dots, which was, that they should conduct thenrelvt s peucealay and totio•tly, and not make this country the bro. of intrigue against foreign -tab , * ; chafe all, that they should not carry on here societies of a hostile character directed atraiwt countries with which we were connected by treaties of alliance. Thaw points were SO clear. just, alai universally admitted that it was unuo•ces.ary to dilute to on the ni, and he referral Lo them merely so :no intneluetion too a statement to which he was about to rail the attention of her Mejesty's gor rn sent. There is (continued the nobl.• and learned lonE in this city an a...elation of persons, who style them *elves ° The Central National Italian Commith•••." 1 - Moe. pi coin., as he untlerstowl, and as they stated, were • Jetted to that tollico after the expulsion of the inturreetosoiats from ltome by some members of the (hmatitutid Assembly of that republic, and by other per s on, holding unite during the Italian revolution. The o b j ect of thin arwiation was, with! y professed, to keep up • spirit of insurrection in Italy, with a view ultimately to the, c falai-11m nt of a c.ntiol republic iu that country. Theo. la , r5 , .114 had lan ty opened ti loan in this country compote of shires, 'tome of which were then in his pee prof...My for the purpose of carrying their po litical sues, tut. execution. '1 hose shares were arettin pawed with • circular IStatiug that the object of the loan was to purchase arms awl munitions of war, for the par. pire• of furthering r colutionary dt•sigus in Italy; awl they pledged theniseln • in th , strongest manner that the funds thus rat* d should Ite applied to this purpose alone. TII/TC papers were Mgned by • person of the name of Miutrini, tom of the es triuinvirote of It • - another pt won called Sartori (we unolt•ritaid). aunt tho y were e tolorasl loy who my led himself accretary of this committee. 'Flu scot nom were patties to an entragement by which they had obtained the prow etiou of Mir law, awl lu• wan suer that their lord eitips and the public generally would join with him in reprehending sorb ronduta. (Hear, hear.) Ile dial not saippes• that much uomey ',mid he rat-. d in this country on mush a prOcet ; poopie were math mow w tiling to throw up their hats and exclaim in favour of liberty, equality, avid ban rnity than to lay out their twines on such schemes. Rat lo• understood that money bad Lien raised by the lean . tot these bun-poient- - these melons —to Paris, and that the cirrulAtion of 'hi to had been prevented there • the interposatien of the police authorities. They had been sold also in the Aock market at Henna. The noble boil pronosltst lorah r to illustrate the justice of his ro,mplaint tlu• exanoolt of M. la dru Rollin, us well by that of General K Lipka, and roncluat lip stating that lie spoke in no unfriendly spirit to the government, but wady for the purpose of suggesting that something 'lmola be done to no et this great • ell. Karl lattlY replied that he would communicate with Lord l'alowrione on the subjeet, who-, rate ntion he knew hail .ilro ally lain direettal to it. laid Ly ntlltur4 seemed to twit at a renewal of the eatraortlinary ma a-ure passed Horse reran a go against foreigner. which lapsed last section, hat he r laird I;rry) 11 lit that 11.6111111 c but the ore .yrry•s t e of To ry crier rirentietuols could justify the government Ia a di ati g th e l e gisl a ture to renew that cibtetment. Alto r some further discussion, in whit h the Earl of Aces liars %press al his surprise Hsi Earl lire y had manifested rat thstioproemit %%%% of the combo t pursued lie the foreign in. Inguers, to which lord thaw replied that he hail not done ea la t aws• he thought his tlisepprobutimi might be taken for omitted, the Matt. r 111,11.111.11. 'IRE CENSUS. . _ 'I he lii.hop of 0‘1 , 01t1) prasontal a petition from elere:yin• nin the iliote,e of thforil, round: • gor ecrt , oill ccossio.ons on tin forms i•stost by Si..• T rgi.trar-gcner.ll with a view 1.. the reosus. Ile hooped that Rose qnt stions would not Is mot, .1 on, for if inr was v.w..it.•.1 by the elemy of Ina de....• a. to Ow court. tiny ought to pursue, he should he in ho. it to atleiw. them not to answer them ; and yet he was unwilling to place himself in antagonistic position to vearils the govern:matt in Ma natter, and to seem desirous of thwart iug efforts which hail origin:dell Manisa intentions. Earl 1;11.1N V I 1.1. E replied, that it wa. di.tinetly under stood that replie-t to the questions complained of could not Ito • nforeal. II.• would only remark, that it would taut r. dotiotil mist h to the credit of the I lerdy if they W.V. the molt o LIVI in the community who vaunted imperfect 1311,0. A 11 , r further conversation, in the course of whirl, Earl I • 11.stiaaAs1 tobwreeil that some of the returns asked for from rlergytoeu were ill his opinion perhatly legitimate in tied flat r, and the Bishop of uiroso expressed his üb jctoool to nearly all of them, the subject dropped. I'AI'AI. AtiIiIIESSION. Earl presented several petitions from Yurk.h, re ag , : inst papal a,ge es si tttt . Ile Plated that hr should nett day present numerous other petitions of a similar eh:Matter, nll4l he then proce“led to gise rattier that Ina *I hi on that day (to -day) make some observations ' the •tiltieet, Which it appear al to him, if not imperatively called Mr, would at least Ire iu.tiiie.l by the prevent state of our attempts to legislate in this direction. laird 11410/1"611Alll wally hoped that his noble friend would think latter of this. (Laughter.) Ile hail hoped that they were done with this hateful tontroversv for a tint, at least until after the Easter wee., Ile could not damn. , how he had suffered, for moths past, from this euntrosersv, and he had upon having, fur a little while, a :title respite. Ile t utnattal Ins noble friend to listen to lion, mid to grant his , arue.t rittfraty to lunge the alaf ttt itt revolution just annoonneal. Ile was aware that it was inure illth,Ult to prevail with his ualole friend, than with most men; but, for Othee, only 'Ur {We— nt:tit, 0 - -he implored his noble friend to wait until after the Easter (Laughter.) llr was our. that it vw the general wish of their lordships that this delay Amid take place; and though there w an sumo, Manger that thin fact would only make his noble friend Mild out the More • k laughtery -lie still ventured to sugg. d to his noble friend a Teronsilletati tttt of hi. intent' . If his nohly friend would wait until after Etter their lordshipscould go into the whole subjrot ; awl he (Lord linntatiam) would promise for one that he would carefully and sarupulmsla ahntain front tut; interference iu the discussion which:M/1a then ,'.rote on, (Laughter.) COL' NIA' 11)1:las ILTIIER EXTENSION BILL Lunt lin/Est/ALE brought up the report ou this bill (with ainentlatcntA). I.ord Slit/L - 1;11AM moved that the bill be re-committal, and the amendments which he had to propose. 'rim amendments were ordered to be print. LI, and the bill was Ottlefutt to be re-counuitted. A RUSE* 4W I'IdIItITABLE TRUSTS. The Bishop Of OX FORD said that he had placed a notice on the paper of his intention that evening to put a quosstion to tie nobly and learned lord who sat on the woolsack, touching thy intentions of her Majesty's government as to a hill too remedying the abuses of charitable trusts. Sinee Ise had i;vnu• into the Mouse, 110 w ever, the wide and learnal lord h-al hooted to hint the draft of a bill hat int: this object, and alout to he introdueal in their lordslaim: house. Ile had, awrefore, now only to ask at what period of the o-s- Won the bill would be brought in ? The LORD INIANCELIAIIt stated that the bill would probably be brought in mat week • and, in reply to a fur ther opi. stMn, that the ft-con;ln.;;ling would 11, taken, if parable, before Easter. MI.110101:8 ORDERS. Lord WlNCllll.7liiiiotosed for returns or the number of inonistiali., nuonrries, and cottning:6, s of rcligious 0r ,1,0s csiAini; in this couutry, and li, crowd oudir the act of 18'29. It was understood that the returns were ordered. The house a Ijoarnvil at • quart,r before seven o'clock. 1101 . SE OF CONINII/N3.—Tin - nADS,N. Ninltett The Ste tarn took the rhair ut th. *mud hour. Posiio.lll tool tlic o.thll .tl4l hi. 1.-at for Dwaine. vim. The I.on. gentleman w.s. iutroilue.ll by Mr. Itayter sod Mr. Wilms. ELECTION PETITIONS. Petition. were pr. itgain.t the return. for Ayle.- bevy awl St. A► nul.. which erre refertvd to ttle committee ow ehetiows. NEWWRIT. Oa the solids W. MILT... a new writ wa• or dered to hawse fur Wert Swabermtahire. an the room of Sir A. flood. 1 i it .b ola I t a •T; W IO T .7 I ,. • vimarißd twiwy Thv petition w '• poiat I-stool, so Li by the 11 sail II • suttee of the U. be chases is toy i with the "Ms so and from 1833 to 1835 to much as 1,301. It is thus 1 views into effect, do see in language much better, if so good, evident that the appnintment of a vier-chancellor than that employed by those who have devoted their whole -led to an lacrosse of business in the Court of time to the fratnone of bill to be afterward.+ mused into law. Chancery, and that eases whieh probably otherwise would' (" Iliac, " and a laugh ) And I believe this Minister of never have appeared there, were brought to that court in ' Justice himself, if appointed, instead of framing the bilk consequence of the additional strength which had been 1 .... I himself, would have to resort to such men as Mr. Ort,ren, Sided. Now, I think it comes to n earl y the same thing, , who assisted me in framing the Iteform Bill, or that ye whether a number of eases sre brought into court and not , able man who now :moist• toy right hon. friend (Sir O. Grey' decided fur year. in consequence of the tureen, or that at the Home - office , Mr. Col son, and, in p oint of fact, tte eases arc withheld from the belief that it would he almost I duty would be done in the same way as at present. (Hear.) hopeless to expect a decision. (Hear, hear.) In either 11 should be afraid, therefore, that it this plan were adopted, case there is great evil to the subject, and that justice is not • you would be parting with that which, as I think, has been perforimel whist it is the lousiness of the state to see per- a greet advantage to the country—en advantage which you formed. (lle.tr, hear.) LonlCottenham stated at the mime have possested ever eiuce the revolution, Yee, the hum gggg time that there was a very great increase in the presiding in the House of Lords a man of the highest I cgsl number of petitions and that they had increased from 1,817 ability chosen from among those who bare obtained t e in 1523 to 2,817 in 1833. In looking at some late returns greatest eminence at the bar. I think, too, the executive ' which hare been published for 1811-1851, I find that in the government would lose authority by it, nor do I think the year ending November, 1843, the number of petitions was judicial machinery contemplated would be any equivalent ' k,715 —nearly the same number as in 1833. But in the fur that loss. I cannot therefore recommend to adept the by Lord Langdale. (Cheers.) f hero year 15 - 19 144 r0 9 they hod to 3,981 , e 3 , , i 9 . B r. l, oi r s d in, in r„, tr in ye b aLtt ce pla u n or co , f ,, t!te pro di p to d n into that of the Ake of Lord Chari ot that diecriptiton. but which I do not believe wa s more is another plan that has obtained much consideration, than commensurate with the increase in the other business which dors not go to that length, but which is at the same before the court. Looking at another return of the time a comiaereble alteration front the present eyeteeth I amount of matters which had been brought into mean the plan of having n permanent judge in the Court ire the fC,,omuirltiaroftoChaalinegeeryntiternndeenr of f e t v h a e rio h u g s A lhe i t;l o s tl ll i t o ie n t: offro from h . i r n el t ie h s e in t . .e ou t r h t e w e.° tr•dhanChancellor t altogether are familiar to all gentlemen of the li'g.il profess i on, front any duty in the ('ourt ot ( h.mncery, but ireversalig I find that in the year 1842, the total number of these the office and name of born Chancellor, and presuming a n n y " t rY lut ; y 1813, 6,873; in ISII, 7,639, making un average fur thine This plan hue , I think, great advautagre over the one I matters in the Court of Chancery was—in 1842. 7,325 ;in him rather as the appreate judge of the House of Lord:. years of 7,279. I find that in 11418, the number was 8,3,32; have already mentioned, for it preserves to the executive in 1819,14,697; und, in 18e0, 8,356, ntakine an average of government the eel and assistance of a person high in au -8,461. There was thus an increase in the average, even thority on legal matter.. At the same time I must from the year 1811, front nn enrage of 7,279 to an eve- say, that on booking at the debates on the subject, and ole. rage of 8,461, showing in that way again a very great in- serving the clever and able statement of Lord Lyndhurst, crease in the business of the Court of Chancery. and referring to the various authorities quoted by him at Upon looking through the returns in detail, .1 the time—Sir S. Itemilly, Lord Itedesdule, end others—end find that, in the year 18 18 , the Cour t of Chan- consulting also those whom I thought able to give the hest eery menu to ha. e been fully adequate to its opinion eon the matter, the tretteml, if not the unanimous functions, and that the Lord Chancellor, the Muster of the feeling in the legal professent appears to be, that a jtte iga Rolle. and the then Vice-Chancellor. were fully employed. who sat novrely as a judge on appeals in the llouee of lends, At the same time I find that the number of ease, left over would not have that weight and authority, and would not at the end of the term was not more than would probably be no capable /if acting satisfactorily se a judge as one who be disposed of in the course of next term, toeing not more sat in the dully practice of a court, where matters of an than had been diverted of in several preceding brims. But ordinary character were brought for adjudication. (Hear.) in looking through the years 1849 and 18541, one may oh- I find that us )i )) ion ettated user end over again in the alisens serve how essential it is to the Court of Chantery, not only sem which took plum in 11836. There is soother plan to take the help of an adequate number of judges, but that and none certainly cen he more des eying if attention, all those judge* should be in a state of health and seength when we consider the very high authority from which it adequate to the performance of all their functions. (Ileac.) promeale-1 allude to the prequition of Sir E. Sugdese Because I find that in Easter term. 1519, and also a term Sir E. Sugderee plan contemplated an iatermediate to he court in 18 5 0, that Lord Cottenliam, being unable to attend, of appeal., formed of several judges, who were there was immediately 0 very coneidereble arrear, and that the Vice-Chancellors. An objesetteu raised to that— the number of caws waiting to be heard had very much and 1 think a fatal one—is, that by depriving increased. However, I will new refer to the quantity of the several courts of Chancery of their beetle to form this business there was before each of the judges of tee Court of court of appeal you would paralyse the action of all these Chancery at the Ist of Micheelinate 18.50, and the let of courts, becomes the time the judges should give too the Hilary, 1851. At that time there were only two Vice- various enlists brought for adjudication in their respective Chancellors, the net of parliament which hail been meted court" would he consumed in this court of appeal. (Rear, for the appointment of two additional VicesChencellors hear.) At the same time there is au opium', which lies having previded that on the resignation of the ordinary gained greet strength of bite, that it is deeiruble that the VicesCheneelltor, no new tem should he appointed. I find, decisions of the Court of Chancery 'Mould out he the first, that in Michaelmas Tenn, 1810, the total timelier of decisions of a single judge, Ind that, whe causes come appeal', for demurrers, exemptions, and claim caste up front the court below for re-hearing ni bn the lewd standing for hearing before the Lonl Chancellor was 117: Chniteelluee centre there should be more than one judge Master of the Wells, 90; Vice-Chu/menu Knight Brum, to decide Now, pie, the bill 1 have to propose• tome eds, first, 3.12 ; Vim-Chancellor Lord Cranworth,l73—meking a total on the foundation that it is desirable to have more then ono of 772. At the continemement of Hilary Term, lteil, there judge sitting iu the lord Chancellor's Court. (lieu, hear.) were before the Lord Chancellor, lee; Master .4" the Rolls, Amid it goes also on this other fourelation, that the wear and 1:11- Vice-Chancellor Knight Bruer, 532; and Lord Craft- tear mem the mind between Sir E. is onsitgden has. thea said, worth, 213--making a total of 1,01 6 . Now, undoubtedly, very great, and the political functi und t this uccutnulainn of business in this latter period has even teution, not only to political gm:limn but to all very much owing to certain acts of parliament lately reform , of the law, it is desirable that the Lord Chancellor passed, especially the Winaing-up Act—(lver, hear)— should have a greater part of his time titan lie now has but I lelieve that it is a temporary accumuletion, to devote to the consideration of terse matter... (Hear, which, when the judicial strength is increased by the rap- hear.) It seal my loud fortune to hue connected in au ad pointment of another vice-chancellor, according to a lull ministration with Lord Ctottenheine than whom no man now before the hoes.:--a bill which I In.lieve meets with gave greater satisfaction to the prefiesion and the puttee by general approbation —will speedily he reduced. It is not, the great attention he paid to the ewes which came berm e him therefore, to that subject that I would wish to call the mitten- in the Court of Chatecry, and by the mounillegal knowledge tern of the emcee but 1 thoneht it desirable that the house and clear judgment he brought to hear upon them; but I -.tumid en what has been the general proems. of the judicial would certainly say that the great attention es tech was business in the Court of Chancery, unit judge of the very :oilmen not only in the court, lout by the study he gene great importance of eve thing etonnected with the rules of to the Canes , ut home in he s own lunneei ee el I teat court. (Bear, hear.) I now come to the nature of the have often known him sit until two or three in the morning office of lane' Ciituteellor, who is at the head of this great studying and remelt:ring a epee in order to arrive at a nor court, and has other most important functions to perform. net decision) that great attention and research he brought The Lord Chancellor is, in the first place, the head of the to beer on this duty rendcroll hint lies motile to give that Courtof Chaurery; end, althoughitnow very seldontheppens tints which others. would do to political questions and fur hint to hear original inotious, yet the whole business of throe natters which the administration, of which ho the court is trimeteted tinder his superintendence, und the was a member, &eind to bring under his notice appeals or re--hearing s are brought before him fur decision. end obtain the benefit of his advice unit assistance upon. Ile is likewise the judge who preterite in the Hour NOW, what I propose Le, that there 'huh be the esta of Lords, while that house remains the great court blishment of a noun, which shall be called " the Supreme of imp He has various administrative functioue belong- Court in Chancery," or " the Lord Chancellor's Court," us lug to him, end e heel are specially attached to the great the house may deride, and that in that inert shall Pit the seal. Ile is, also, a member of the cabinet, and, as such, is Lord Chancellor, the Master of the Rolle, and one of the consulted on all petit:cal questions that emote 'rebore the judge, of the courts et' hew, to Le ettutinontel front cabinet, hut more eepecielly on those which here relation to time to time for that purple. I ant informed the conetitittien, to the ameudiuent of the law, or the way that at present, in the present state of Lesl ie which the law should he enforced. But he has various news before the common law etourte—at least, it is ether functions, He is adviser of the royal family in ;my the opinion of the preeent Lord Chancellor — that it would cue tor doubt ur dif fi culty rupee:tine the Interior Of that nut hes di ffi cult for thee: courts to gist. thus assistance of one family. he is hased iu a very high position, in of the judgee for the performative of this duty. I promote., consequence of el l these functions. Having enumerated therefore, that there shall ler three judges--liar Lord Clout the advantages accruing teem this state oh' things, the noble miler, the Master of the Rolls, tend one of the judges, of the lord said--I will now state shortly what I consider to common law emu-iv—and that any two of them shall have be some of the dieetlenneiges attending this positiou. The the power of hearing causes, and that in the absence of the chief disadvantage I think as, that these functions are so Lord Chancellor the two others shall hue all the power various and weighty. The uttenelemee en the Court and authority in the Court of Chancery which the Lord of Chancery to deliver judgments on matters of Chancellor poeseetess. It is part of the measure I proprem the very highest importance is of itself so great that appeal. in bankropne, and ell other statutory jurialies a labour of mired and body, that the junction of tion, sine letexereiestel by thisSupreute Court -thorn the Lord that duty with the task of preeiding in the House of Chancellor alone 'hall not exercise the authority he now Lords, where necessarily great attention must be exercises in the Court of Chancery, but that he stall always paid to question.; of stele, makes it hardly Fusible that any exercise it as a member of the court. By this pros kern men can bus found efficiently to perform both. (Hear, the Lord Chancellor would hes enabled, end indeed hear.) It appears toleo that while the executive government morn!, to uttend to the lousiness of the Court of ha+ the advice of the Lord Chaucellor, atoll bis assistance, he Chancery. lle would sit there as a judge. All the inter must agree iu the political sentiments of the roe of the loeutory matter that would come before the court would cabinet, and ou any change of got ernment the roman• be heard by hint ; and, at the same time, he would not be Lases the advantage of his accumulated experience, mud so entirely taloorbed in that duly Its nut to have time for the weight of his decisions iu the Court of Chan- the other high and important functions he has to perform. cery, over which, us a judge, he has wedded. Thew In the elute way I prom.• that matten. of Immoy should considerations placed before the country, and weighted be erne by the Supremo Court, and that an arrangement by men of various needs and diSpOsitiOUS, !lase from time should he etude with the judges of the COMIIIOII law courts to time produced plans, by which it uppeered to these: who to dispense with one of the judges to attend to this were their authors that the gnat athantages I have men- court. With regard to the eateries in future to be paid, tinned might he secured or obtained in :seine other way, it will he reelected that the committee upon salaries tom awl the deadvanteges obviated by some change in the ma posed last }cur that, if there was any decision of the office. chinery of the Court of Chancery und the Mouse of Lords of Lord Chancellor, the salary amide be reduced to 191001. in regard to the adoninistrution of the haw. The first plan a yea. The mover:cum:it here taken that propped into which I shall mod ern as propped for this purpose—and I censitlerntion, and it is our si p . - that that reeluetittn is mention it lint bee:muse it is the phut that guess furthest greater than ought to be made in so high an tele,. (Ilene, in the detail. of cloange--ie that propountlo d with all the hear.) And we think, especially, that the pension no be elearrees and ability which belong to Lord Langdale, who paid on retirement front the office of Lord Chancellor Was its author, and wltto brought it lemma on another Arnold not be diminished— (hear, hear)—because it is de pleee, in the year 1836. Thut plan torteposed that there eirelde, when the situation itself must depend upon the should be a permanent eutlge hi the Court of ternary— cluingee in political We, that there elionlol be such that is a judge nut changing us at present with every Change a suffieient retiring allowance US to induce a man, in the administratiton; that there shone' be a hord en 4- who would otherwise obtain n permanent situation, dent sitting in the !louse of Lords she should likewise be tte accept this one. (Hear, hour.) I proper, there here, a permanent judge, and that there should be also a lord that the salary be 10,0001. a year, and that the retiring keeper of the seals, or, as some would call I • , the minister elle...eine should remain as at tree:tit —e,ooo/. a year. of justice, who should be a inetuher of the Amine- There is another chutoge I propose to make which I may tration of the slay, and aho ee whole care stud have sem difficulty in mentioning, for it would .con us if attention ehuuld be directed jut the framing, cote I, as First Lord of the 'f reaeury, load an interest in the prOs reefing, and revising till such elitinges of the law pail. There is a great deal of et at-emotive! patronage as the government or intli‘ietuels might think fit from time vested in the Lord Chancellor. It was originally rend in to time to propose. Now, sir, it appear to me that how- hint by an arrangement that the weenie who were then ever plausiblo: such a proposition—however it may accent :situated in the Lord Chancellor's Mere, und who were with tour first view of the theoretical o p eration of the union clerks in orders, should be' ttillittintVil to belles of political and jut-lived funetione—l do not think it would lives , and that the giving of them bendiees was be beneficial in practice-. (Ile ar, hear.) In the first place, a mode of rewarding them for their ours ices. In Ido not consider that the objections urge,' against the mix- fact, that le-longed to the time when the Lord Chancel ture of political mud judicial functions are well founded. per Was usually an treleeiestic and in holy order, himself. (Hear, hear.) Notwithstateling all the political fee:hinge That patronage is disposed of; not by referent, to this and party preferences tot the several Lord Chancellors, Ido crown, not by taking the Quern's favour to in other cases, know one of whom it can be mid that his decision s in but is disposed of, eirlede offirii ' by the bora Chancellor. the Court of Chancery were influenced by consideration,. in On the other hand, it was propose d by the commission that favour of the party with which he was politically conotteted. reported Let year that the whole of tines bene fi ce, should e (Cheers.). There is no mason why, then, a politerell be sold Inc the rourpoe of increasing the nit ans of spiritual chancellor should not decide on queetioue of property. The instructiou. The government, in taking that propeed into Lord Chantellor appointed to a permanent °Him would, no consideration, were decidedly Armee to it—(hour, hear) — doubt (like the judges of the courts of common law) und thought it was not advisable to part with a great ‘ fee .o t u l d rily p , ro e b. rel b t ly he b. p , re c eid g i r lg ut r r tl y. ge ,eig u h r t th in e I th lo a te t se hod of y l ; ei b ril u s t s tee r. t pri ti ec on f o o f r a it— gr( ch a discharge the legal duties pertaining to that office antis- public trust and sell it to whoever might offer the h n k i f n4 u that ~, , , such nexi m a x e t ar p ' ert hea o r ith a r l e . hu th re li when we crime to the considerutton of that which, as 1 have with the state was in itself nut deniable, I proton! there sated, is useful and advantegeou—that there should be a fore that this patronage shall in future be vested in the person of great authority and weight assisting the delibern- erten, and that the minister of the crown shall take the tions of the government, Liking part in the deliberations pleasure of the sovereign as to its disposal, in the same way and aiding in the decisions of the Home of Lords on ques- as he does with regard to the eceiteiestieul patronage none colour-end with the amendment of the law and on all already vested in the crown. (Hear, hear.) I have sated constitutional questions—then I think the plan would ut- now the general provisions of the bill I have the honour of terly fail. In the first place, as the office of Lord Keeper propoeing, but I should mislead you if I gave it to Ix • sup would not be permanent. and as the person Incepting it peed that I was now carrying into effect all the propoeds would have to give up his professional prae- which the government and the Lord Chancellor wi.i have to ties, you would have to give u very high sa- make for the improvement of the administration of juetice. lary end a very loigh retiring allowance, and very In her Majesty's speech it is said: " The administratem of 160011 (even if the 110 Use of Commons were di,- justice in the several departments of law und equity, will no lased to great these high salaries and retiring allowances in doubt receive the serious atte • neon of parliament ; and I the first instance) complaints would arise on that score, and feel confident that the measures which may lie submitted, it would he' said, why should a person whine functions are with a view of improving that administration, will he (H+ merely political, and who is but the adviser of the govern-, messed with that mature deliberation which important meet, have a salary so far above other members of the go- changes in the highest nouns of judicature in the kingdom sentiment ? The consequence would he that the office of imperatively demand." Now, sir, one of the changes which Lord Chatirellor, the Lord President of the Ileum. of Lords, can be made—end a change which can Ix• made settirfeeto and the tonnes of the judges who preside over the courts of rily as any one who has tweeted the newspaper common law, and other situations on the bench, would be will have seen —is the reduction anti abolition more sought after than this precarious 'amnion of Lord of many of those fere now paid in the Court et' Chancery. Keeper, and you would have a man inferior in weight and (Hear, hear.) I believe that nothing is mom deferable than authority to those who filled thine other judicial appoint- that the 'tenor should be Mae to obtain justice without that rents, and the decision, of the government taken on his • very great espouse which must deter many from entering &dein. would be liable to be questioned and overthrown by those courts. (Hear.) I have heard it said by some that it is persons of more weight and higher standing at the bar. If desirable that the avenues to justice should hays heavy tolls that is the case, Ido not see why this large provision should upon them, because otherwise if justice went made too cheap, be made. or why the Home Secretary, sitting in this or the litigation would be encouraged. Now, if it is, durable to other house of parliament, would not be competent to per- discourage litigation, it appears to me that that is not the form all those duties which it is suggested should be co- way to efft et the object. (Hear, hear.) if a pers.= brings trusted to this Lord Keeper or Minister of Justice. With a frivolous action against another, let him pay the penalty regard to one duty which it is proposed the Minister of by the costs awarded against him. That is the true way to Justice should perform. 1 must say, speaking upon my own discourage litigation. (Hear.) But to say that a man shall experience, that no suds high office is required for the per- pay a particular amount of money before he eau obtain pose. I allude to the duty of euperintentling the drawing justice on a kir complaint, that 1 hold to be inconsistent of bills and ascertaining that the language in which they with all the principles which ouglmt to regulate the ed am couched iv consistent und concise, and that no errors creep ministration of justice. (Cheers.) And when we say it into our lierielatien from inadvertence in this regard. I discourages litigation, I think the greatest error must be should say, in the first place, as our legislation committed, for it evidently depends upon the fortune of the must he teethed by the two houses of parliament, one tieing person on whom the penelty is inflicted. Take a man of a numerous body, and the other not only a numerous body, 90,0001 or 30001. a-year, who wishes to have revenge but a body returned by popular election—that all bills upon another, melte: would have no hesitation in spending passed by them must be of such a nature as to satisfy not 1,0001. in a court of justice to attain his ends. (Hear) only the accurate mind of members of the legal profession, But, take a man who has a real wrong to complain oe but must convey the sense and opinions of the two houses 1 and he may be unable to spend 1001. to obtain retirees — of parliament so composed and constituted. (Neer.) , (hear, hear)—so that you see while the rich man would But then it is said great advantages would hue derived often indulge le vexations eptrit of litigation, the poor ioun woala from changing the language- of sots of parliament, by oak- be debarred from obtaining las right. (Hear.) It ales ing it more correct, and that for that purpose such an officer pears to me, therefore, that the !seeking of justice cheap, so would be useful. Ido not perceive that those great and far as it can be done, is one of the duties of the state, and I eminent lawyers who entertain enlightened views as to the think we cannot in this respect be wrong in abolishing and amendment of the law, when they come to carry those reducing as many few as may be found possible. (Chem.) J