The Express. — London, England, 1851-07-26 00:00:00

IMPERLIL P.tRLIAMENT. H OUSE or LORDS.—Fuoar, JOLT 23. The Luau Caaticou.our took his mat at 5 o'clock. PETITIONS PRESENTED. gCCUMIAIITICAL Tin M BILL.—B 7 the Rent o r LGNSDALE. from a place not heard . the Duke o r ARGYLL. from places in Scotland; the Earl of EL LESMERE. from Averal places ; and the Earl of ENNIS KILLEN. from 4 place in slier. in favour of this hill. IN FULUITZD Kowa DI:TY BILL.—By the Duke of ARGYLL, from Glasgow, against this hill LIE PAL.l4ta. —By 711 c Duke of ARGYLL, f ro m tV.otmlnder ; the Eari of ST. GERMANS. !ten :n -habitants of W.atminster. and a place to Cornwell and the Earl MALMESBURY. from itocliport, in famine • of the retention of the Crystal PaLECC. EPISCOPAL CAPITULtit EST.ITES BILL AMENDMENT Y 0..) HILL. Oa 'he motion of the Erri of CARLISLE, this WE woo read a .erond time. .:(.001ONS INewsrßE 'No. 2) BILL. Tll, '5:11 w Also read a wend dale. UN LAWFUL OATHS IRELAND) RILL—TURN NEE ROADS ;IRELAND) BILL. LUNATIC ASYLUMS 'IRELAND) Theft -everilly went through alientittee. and Weft reported he house. ECCLe.sIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BILL. Lord MONTE-MILE fruited to put the loilowing tins*, of which he :sad :riven flutists to the noble and ;earned lord on The Woolsack If t names famine fdoiest NMI the 'wattle. and it 061 0 11 . 11. ..mei initial i Water is he reenliabiesi course. it mil Roman esthetic flamers "a preterirt di were" moderns founts I. all tit. 1,1*.10a1l IMl.s .%111111110111111 the peel - neu'nm"' yopuustre to ash Memo illegal me 4 wen diner .neis ant ti 1 ,orimaisum. .athunte, pre. , inmenee. 5r 'tile ,aierrei ale pre. towel .0 IS rliatiffleg .Isit llialant =WWI Eii And Veld eiller seta :1 nms esthetic &rec. helr. •Me *am, "rlth t •donne nee et, .Ir. • • no: conterremotwor , le therelnuL a pep Amiga •siaiiai memo Inoderforo Macao" •aufer 4 :lie VAMIN.IIIIOI I ii wenarn af Is the :apa, misname anaemia utpermnute syryniat to .ur.11.11 , 11/100 u11.14.rt .vvt •uil owlet men nail ;Irmecu" uitherity, m tile unlawful oar env; 'maw •mta - 1,1! If a Items ,W 110.111 411.1111111• emit dos maw title nor reellim awn .ay Mame •4 the etwoiehie :his a " Wellieene Aimee mire uett ■ I. l 'oe limieeniuml Thin inieniplim MI! la tot papal n-imuoit 4o;onntatt Tmerpoituag fo uppers ta femme os 4.1 -en oil .04c, ...CS old; yea la me Anaheim. mutant!, , imitate, erx =aura/ air wed internee osier the mat ban ! Is fau .iiiewetweis.e a Hier ipanise .n Keening fr Ireimak af/P , Olaf lles - utuorits .4 .• scut .sweipt, .euere Rawson, 0, leer , .- ._ _-- ----- --, --- --- -- , -- iaeoamrss .• us ' lieslies . -ester rent .., egosae ma la*, r time =A :melte . m 'veld be tuner from his intention than 'le In consequence of the aggreseios of the Pope . Me tete ttuli al It.. 'sop ..a alio •ne neoriteryani Mina/ lee- to OS,/ An ..Abet lie trusted that the y would icier the but A had seemed :et to them to adopt 4 mode of lean/at:we mum of 'be Konewa•Lcai Mee es enetem nth; - w , t , the Pima , catholic, the utmost ildulgeme in their religion. not that which would not mesh the Pnpe Menself, who was the ruse ee rename '-o -et ' , ..4e , . 0 • 1 ~ "'"•••0 * .0 .00 51 " t". 'lb' ' thee would not allow them to molest their ern. prznetpal offender. while it remised those who had ;m -eet 'a ." MO"! - e ie."-sUe. Ander * he Y eeeeen". niAISAS - •till. W e d .:.V3IOYS cad to agreed in the suggestiou of a properly Aided and abetted him. Nor did he think it jun to hue been mad* tato to ~stead the bid to Inland, soling there had been no Th e LORD tritAeleEl e Loet Al a the tint e u e ston en . noble • aii. that at eiquiry a ug ht i _ . his . disputa 4 !nobs lleh ilea. iV . aid. with respect to eke , the , -ealreeet 'telatt lief •ataaat td . , . upon it. . to Inland 1 mleaue eroteet against thee 411 Seigle :Veiled - 0 InLand. lit 44 % ."" i1ri a Mor:frcAsHEL mooed that the word +marl. by the bill .t was entered ' hat certain particular 'nets oh 4 emeemeete „ en , ..„, iyi ee en d neje and. of had eften :heard .1 remarked. that sours .4 the wont laws ...reeti " be left at. which was 'greed to. proposed published under Ike eircumstances would follow which were Mode were made dottier .° haat Ehhhiad an d The Duke .f AIIOYLL pposed 4 =madma. the Ter". in remelt. and 1* , eprehended That hen , hoverer . ; u Ireland. If that was *rue with regard to as erdsnary state I e ff ect of which was •he •ioung away with the power ut in t et ua tome ., . e . e eii. weedee eehethiend thread. of things. 3 was much mere true in e cue of ttus to i formers to prosecute. ,7xpreesing his disbeliet that the With 'n the •tuestion 4/ •o ewerewianotohe. tee KO' when the rue .4 Irelasdiliffered so much frouthae of Eng. lecentsk prelates would disobey the proposed act. see • w ee k e e e • i ,„ eel s een :nee n.i.e by law to in et . land. In Finglawl 'he Meat esaionte were Protemaa'al: la I The Lord CHANCELLOR defended the retaining the a•h • • ,nh tad eon mode elluered ev Ireland they were •-afterlin. This 411 tweet Ire tividesi I additions which had limn made to the :resentment SelL Ile . i ion 'te ri o a a nsn; . . 4 tad " 'he onnele in which .t liad 'Well i nto "Y° earn. prospective and retreePeetlee• It woe with i :militated that mme 4 the words introduced ..! Me •.ther earned en. he , headed. was let inlawful toy say regard ' o the retempeenve uan that :ill lied_ to e el( -- their i hoses •• tooled :Lily," 'tat contended •hat they made no ittcuteen. Ile armaidered that the preamble was actual 4iffercuce in the character ef the measure. deel .4 'bat dl. .r ray anythine , n the .tatute of !tantalite*,tteauun. Ric :I. That was ton meter -n lie euestion .n •ho ,'t • leriaratton .gaeust Me .egaitity •.t ordinations and The Earls .4 ELLESMERE arid ELLENDOROUGII nurse,. tout notch must .lepend ...al the •tune. Me eceamon. marriages. Were 'hey quite sere how courts 4 law spoke Wordy. ietiost the „ chum .. any „chum... r et Me 4erutsent. en tar as ,t Loncerneu •he would interpret the set= Ile :houghs They . I toda ""a I The Duke et NEWP.ASTLE protested against •.he eon pommies document entered to in tee MIL .t was Weriareo - nuke it ea to ensure the aiterpretatioa lint upon it by the I drat of government ..0 retaining to the bill words .4 which that melt 4 .locamest was enlawine tad 41 n the same. tweet ead :ranted ieed 'et 'he eeeteetei They mettle get I they wee ashamed. merely for t h e vale •. t .eroding , „ e el. - e n . enet .., L e ie sh e same rig, With regard ... me _ rid 4 the •lieleuety ey nuking the et not retrospective. I sloe with the ileum: 4 ..'ommons at the iwriod of the the, oiestees with reternme to which all had enured 4 end yet .cave 'tor ail stringent. If the • , ,,ii were .applied t umiak. mate i sheet 'one are. from the noble lord. who .raked wee- to itel4llltt 45 it iteW staid it veined ..reate e new embolic I Earl GREY said 'hat the words et question nude 710 thoe_ e nt ee ? i nns h e m, ikeinyen innjornal end .al-o'er- questwo. then Ordatillie WOlitiai revenger the .urnatiot , t I mum , , Le y ereeee e the working of the bill, and. looki ng versa en •ti e eine i nterefeet would 'w _nutty et i suss which ferment' - meted. sod :f this 411 pawed ,a 31 I it ' 'at the 'one 4 •hc House if eennmons. there was e enoLc ,h eneanese . in rut menet the incest tell read, no L iter. sent shape ee thowen the Inshought to .untate. if they eel ! interest in avoiding further ascension there. acne ei •he lew whatever . aid is to the feet nailer the 'w . 0 .. o atutatiettal meatier. ',nth' . t 0 " "Tested. `et I -titer e tew words from the Earl of trIAL.MESHrIeT. Waste ..t Richard Ile steed riot tell the nobly . .usd, with las I tvuurt not . rt'r , lP ' , Flag t word with respect to • 0 1eiouteme I The amendment wee put, ad d t h eir lordship & m i n e lent -nuesal•sis.•hat it would ..all remain. relations. It there !Lad 'wen .a Pope a nuncio lire tbis le 1 Th . number . were . T r.mE l e wd yosii. -. I. 4 mis ...it , n mintier date of • • noun nneht ~a rc 'Weis enclose . The establishment I f o r the clause *twin as .o 'he Inuit open whet er eluedy +raked to... Main 4 this heenirehT , end the 4 4tatiant which had I For the amendment eel-44 infernsatent . 'he • avian-mina et Me noble tad :earned :oed seniatede& had ...,"" a ! m a t = ail ,. t ,_ lume ___,, t°r 1 The clause was then agreed to. wee. irreereer. -uteriesit ter !us Len eloutenettei pansome. 'he eeetleillea 'Lee natural PM w it c h eeewe" 1 Lord eIONTEAOLE mid that he would bring forward rhe r,.0.1.• emit Men emended '0 more e `hat it hie :0 in- etteitalit them was increased. and whatever didleaitl . on the thud reading the clause of which Ws had oven .tremors or me , roatititnect 'be whose femme, in the Ren e . Mere ma rkt have , men in Mau •Altailitilif ;Carr, of hostler. , „ mice ,. .rotas Nth. twumptien 41. m inert ~ . nue to exempt 'rusts tad , Moiuneent• 'ma meeeiera,. _i'i! aariabed t cad at , Viscount CANNING wished to know whether. under the Ifeunit !non •hr. eperatein 4 •he eaid eill. ' If he eel , tot this moment lie 'veered that e nomen 'atauat is tau t" ' tend clause, the archbishops and eishope of pretended -taw thin, • his . i m u t owo r i t iu t .juastion. Ise ...aid red peen it lend er ennead aught look .0 vain to 411 returned to par ! , v ied . .f they prefixed t h e „H e .. m om= „ t i n ge, -• •ei their .emereee remounts. Ile regretted that religious liantent eefore their tithe, Ire exempt from the penalty of 1001. treang .boatei .ace ..ern =ten op with 'he question et .ul, Viscount , eeNNING was Ily no means monied with , The mimes of LANSDOWNE -aid that if the enlaces toe lie .stied •ri 'awns* it es i -lure matter et law. The the way 111 witch 'be lewd 'lieueellet .ad ' hdeinailted '' a 1 .4 the Roman churee had 4/led themselves Rosati eattio- MU had 'to 'retiring ea the sysod et 'llene" ..r en minute dispose it the ircument 4 Lord elunteagle :n reward to. , lie :e wade or eisbops. as the .ase aught be. .t would estalaiehmente. eel would 'W Altogether in imeku and .n- 'he diterlerenee 4 the 1 41 with there nnui meow" '. '- have made 41 Me eifference in the public. operome on ... in , Wh en •h e ~ ..a.p. ..t l ie l in e the Remise •celesiesties. lie also saw at injustice in the I r ise ., ~.t .NN/Na wmplain , w i tb.,, '.lea „lucid= had eltureh onspieined "hat they had not 'morn , on . mode in which penalties were to lie indicted. But he must , Leek en ... erne sumo ewer the Engliet Mersin! presented 'heir twlectaanY "pp re the :attraction :,t the committee, es lie , tot Eari eiltEY believed that the bill AI it stood would not athireei • o Me queen. epos the subject ~ f papal geoid nut consent to unction the reeociutiou ~t.d ;fe diff erence , touch .uty person raking a title mantling to the form ;n the eiteresoon, the errhunhop 4 i' 4 hteentu7 ".pli,,i .setween the ...elite ..f the supremacy 4 the Crown in Eng- Lk-quests .n.t. Pranteally. he relieved the eel . eould make the • t i . eeneet . eel ee t em e nd to Inland : nit .t. -ie e , land . ind in Ireland. uthougn tie eould aut perreive •hat tne • ho eeetiee whatever th „ net to , he enety ,ill item= intent. iMpownlee 'o Melte penal •maetasents founded auerellnaerit the C rawl' ta r ithat'atiatlT wiiailaiaaatted by . esthetic a t assuming titles in Ireland. net 4 partiewer effence. ran extend them to i emote!. the ;meal s ees. If lie eolud 'reeve •liat the rioverninent ; ViscOliat CANNING mid his question had not been in where +eh Menke 4i4 aunt .1134. In .rely noses the Inin had in . arnest :mention , it :asainit the hill smogent .n. swered. lie asked whether Roman catholic preeites. who, at esthetic • Mann .4.1 MOT` tree from Me -berth ,f i :eine Its eperations in Ireland. tie rontesed lie would be strongly' e isomer rime, t ie d ! se . a ll owed , parliament . 0 . .. me , then say ester church m Europe 'soul the =bitten •4 inclined to support •he instruction to the eoreauttce ter • tele', would now he allowed to emcee them without :le . the r e , e a s t the .ionern e nee . 4 'he sa nh ereh . fi tmi dee d iliclUdiair Ireland !ruin the .011; tint to spite 4 what id. cue i ng t h e „ ne i ty , i f 1 0 0 i. smug impel? into Ireland. rh, ...t. set lnetir 'raced Minn tram the aohi , sad :earned Oil ele the wwoleacer - Eel quEy I)ser , •ed 'hat (tit noble friend had mul that th e e n t er! 4 the Into "honk, mg ..ontenu e d that the lie moneyed that ',hut taeleilire would not 're enforceu if in the tint instance these persons bah called themselves I saw'aPPliCal°lo'we ountriew• did 'hat ,aithet..7l, w ent 'a 'hat e 'w i aittT• 4 ad ander 'hal ini P rv "*" • - Homan catholic" archbishops or bishops it would h ad it would 'we • dancerout •,, ...stead 'he pretested L ee r to .at .howl 'TWIN! the natllictliaL made .41 the difference :n the public feeling. If they had Innate Ile 'hen enwerded to .now . 1241 t .t was riresniary ' Lord ORAN wowril Amoy eontroverted Lord Mont gone a step further end ;lad taken the form et the anima that the Milian athreic eutlaupri should• to do •-ertaan tune 4 new AS to the effect of this income Spun -.untied .bet it would he„ ell en getter. 1 level wee nut eoly min Moe names. 'rot eppend the names rates. .eserting that a NUN, 'lend hie eharacter. not , Viscount cANNINO was sorry to give their lordships se i ot 'heir son. Ind •het 'hey lad 'seen reconused ..1 - he (tom any rescnpt, hut from has comierratioce Ills "P ilau! ' :much trouble. hut he' had not yet obtained an answer to his titles •4 Me+ sees ey mccesive •overnments • . .ea 4 ..AirTnt .es that et. Pence the 'w Prmeuted• ques t ion . which h e had p u t e s ? booty es he could. lie I the eine ef the feurer: •f Ileeiford. who was eird except ender the second section et the Act. end lie eould . should like to h ave ie answered ea lerel . t e eon „ . li e utenant 4 !wie l d Et 1 ele. it,„.. rather see roe valid reason tor excluding Ireland `tom its operation. Lord eItANWORTII mel if he was ippeeled to he lie . m m eni en , i n e en e e ie . .4 for the oar .. the !listen of OeSORY held that by excluding Ireland „ o we ei e y say that s o taal as hie o p in i on -vent J. in the pew mt • i'arrrna •he mew-that was proved in the 'sue , from the operation et the MU , they would lie proclaiming • late creations the put .. . t.od „ relied the eeree ~ to .4 the :ate lewd . %anneal:h. ['tort '.sad else, 'me more that .to a 'ureatil ;ewer that lai was at liberty to ' w i le " hat set of catholic " it would have :made a great difference. li n tti ie new +canon. :weed eastern :ctien to their rneeeteve tine , aggernion at ene pert et his realm II I ' - ._.,--* -ear ' Isar, ' ~_...e ` w ' did riot think that now the prefix would exempt :bemire= Mine entreating eisentbances. flue was .i ',ennui ate noble loed Lod Mootaode) hoo lurraeti made the .slhis- . t h e ~ tn . o f th e inn. :end dlnshen •he emeri t i lee entered such en set to Ito' 0406 that Injure they eould ague to !us amendment they . •• , iscount C.LININti hail nothing to say farther than it et ein e •h,.. 4 „,.. enineet ! se e „peened their minim, for , must overthrow •he union of the two ' hurehes. F , .r this would have been mon eet i et e etoey to hen hat t h e „ pinion -ter. , astoral .ettens mil in -se .netence !tad had sach a , hedhl watt:wee 'bee would 1 * prepared. • Rear; ilia "int' 'of the noble and : ed lord 4/ the woolseck. document reprinted at the publi c expense, : new, ship then • ntereat into ea ecelesuutteat ersniment. :o 'how , . rile Earl 4 *VT. tiER.M.ANS said he would more the hear. Ile, inight 'leered upon it that. if they pseud , tint. in 'meantime to the "Lanni .4 he Catholics. the '-stay- . oniusion et the third clause. on the ;nomad that the .',ooh this nU. boy ...uid .w ' , wading "a :he merge .4 - a i limbed rhumb .0 England del Ireland win the .egotteme : biehope prirepter. No net 4 sir ,ailing dad 10.1111 .0 nitwi t the I aliCeesenr of the uteteat rhttstiaa . hutch. were allowed to du that which was denied to the lush Roman esthetic prelates. etieewt 4 'swealalnt is 4,4 Placate i eountre ender in in- : 'Die Earl •.1 eT. I iEIteIANS. who was imperfect!!' 'lle Duke of .titGYLL mid that the 'went had en un tees,,t. , i‘ t • hat wa s whaat tbe tell wow,* .to with regard to I heard• was not divined to resent the ;earning :tad AMU. doubted nem to p rohibit the titles . a 'Toth Baas. but the Ireieuu. fko wee i startliwr wsertion. .ut ;w was pre- I racy 4 the new taken 'my the right rev. ' , relate. that the . , ame rrasoas r id •oet apply to the Atotek b ie k ope en d t h e pond t o ;'rune , t, Ii ,pr i ed that : n ow itenn,E4 , erns protestant church ,rt Ireland was the Ancient churns. With , /floe cathode bishop. wdd were ,ile'ots,'iu wit h t h e pre ee t ee t eei m p ree . the age 1 Mat ehurch they ! aid within; to 4o: eut. how. , ei re lot ueu neS : Int 'hat *he rest were. ieeT that tight tie. he establiseed church in Ireland we. not ! The Rue of eT. i :ERMA-els .lid not press Lis amend client anti the anises iit •he bill were then agreed to. .sad eeeid • owe withal the scope '1 ;Ms ice : ei Me .hutch ef the tnajonty 4 :he people. ,!fear.: fhe 1 Thew , ~w eiaa„ ., ii. cad adjourned , a ,itienn to chat ten :roue 'roe pieced .n e Wee:rent position !rem sees of the established thumb were real sees, end if env - ee „ e el ee miiiiiie " the . thee had. Now. with respect :o the real 4.1.• the ere- . :emus usainned 'he title, of those sers they would he .lausit !"- nos were cwt .lay usatepe .sit ,- iron apustOlir with •-ple- .21 Alciral act. hut there were ten sees in Ireland which • ivpsa omen. said .n that capacity "bee Wile gat AareCled . 'lid not sclung to the established "Muth, aad if they ten et, .h e ,fa. 1;,„ oath respect 'e :b e , eeteh d e d sees t h e ,de red awl .and volt vertaill Jet, of Roman catholic limbo!), ...e ns . entreenet en „h , reste d o m ', Lemon , em e ene e •oh amount et the :authority ender which they were done. it • pecopai sowers epee the iriaaep. It, then. they pro. I followed that • eller. .ets which were unchaste to the our. nouared • bet eoeutunt illegal .sad coul. Men tonowed oat vise of 'he Itoman .attiolic religion would be null Aid void rear 'hot :or:reuse et :he prelate . temtoria ; nnarlictia also. Ile tout an opposite view 4 the case to that of Lora net •he ilestelt/ttott ,•t ' us .hiatopal , Warier. la tact, it Craaworth. end •-tted eutleanttes to show thin the recognised entirely , leprinel him 4 it A tee es en set et 'weeniest rate 4 law would sanction Al indictment ender the tint mute ,10. 4/4 thus it put et mace en nil to Ito •.rdinauus parties 4 the proposed et. lie thought that the house of enema, to their magnums to waences, to the . winery, , we. proceeding eery !tastily with a 101 l of pains and penel• tion of Ames wt wonhip, to the eowarnatiee 4 the young., ties mean* a lame body of the catholic •relesiaetios in mil •he like. gamier .4 manage and end rights mule ltenete The pneciple ef the bill .to which he was op. .tepead loon the validity ,rt the ,•neste orders ey whom posed) had heen Armed try the :cause. and :he question the .eretsoatr wee performed. and • heretorr what = Wee therefore :hutted. He lied nem much • onseleration nght wed they to -tribe unit e law at tee homes i to the subject. the result of which was that, neat as was relimon the inconvenience , 4 recognising a different etandard of value floe LORD CIIANC'ELLOR mid •Lat ail wtritual Mg he the aspens:my in the two eountries. the ' , alnico et evils •Lene ev a Ileum canine Miaow weuel, .0 late of the bell, indined him to support the present motion. • n Account et lie Perfectly eine the dame which the proseedeun certain to be taken ender Lord NIONTEAti LE begged •o submit withinne resent this lell would ~ladle throughout Ireland. that`us nets+ .sat earned !mod ,dlew tiot/tuag about I it. The Duke •tt •taLITU. said that the number .if persons A When Roman 'Mahe r.ithor was econatersted the tint who might be affected Sy this lee ought mot to he eine m/Iv in the . enmity was iota spintual .sots It eontineneed 1 Mend in 'e-rising upon I Aueilttob et enticed*. lie with the luestion. //oectil •wsotaatt,a .Ipastuarteal • I would not have supported 4 hull which tended to interfere What teilewrei WWI tounesd man 'he tlanriat.as .Iptataai- I with the purely spiritual rights' mdinduals. -and he took ' winch declared to'he .rid. .tad was lierenle :maid. Adam..ticun spustoth: were .appointed by :earn Iron Hoene. dui were •11, vetoer under qui set. the otneet •t such wee arm/orate 'he old 4tatittes. Woes ease. • I winch :us noble :turned Thud ,the Lord Chase ostler had made .o much. hut wench !Lid ' , ern treated .0 01 au =portant, by the on-Chancellor Led Lyndhurst). was spresaly unmet vicars ipOstolie. ti.. • hen. the real , wee were prohabited by the Relief .let. the pretended wee by the init. sad As Titan .Lpou.olie by the revival of the I oM Austen Surely. each an snack upon the echelons I liberties of a °matey had never been -unwind. Even the Oland Ludt, tea the Inuit Unmans Assuivataun had nut read . . Itb 41111 d upon lus ..onetction that none of the malts Ap prehended ity Lord Manual:le could sane rrs ;Wring the ineassze. Not "ale oturht not (,eland to !,e .-zempteti from it. but d was .peetally reqtureti :0 that , rountry, where the mamma influence of :he catholic reliirtun was most deaorertme. and where its professors were most in'e aniptllolll. The Marquis of CL. NRIC.IRDE , amid impatiens, for • division) '10f• testimony to the . - harseter .I.rehbishop Kerrey, who had been "suers( times referred to in the cause of the debate .ss one who ought be found in opposi ties to the proposed law. The Earl of WICKLOW • ' HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAT, Any 23. The Ser..= took the chair at a quarter attar 12 o'cloeit. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The *tt. .todzeirt .utd t4nebee Railway Bill was read t third ame ond flu I.lrown'i Cate MR and :he Dean end 'hapter W..antinster's Estate Bill, were read -econd time. rho Lords' Amendments to the follosntur 'oils were -on wined mil agreed to —Mumma-1•...nm T,tetrraph Com. pony hill and the Msnettester Improvement PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PItESENTED. Clitoral. I'u...tn.—By Mr. MITCHELL. t'rom Bnd pan : Mr. HUDSON. from :he Mayor and oorporuion ~t Sanderland: Mr. V. SMITH. from Northampton: md Mr. ILAUDCASTLE. from tVestatinster ; Mr. 'WHOLE. FIELD. from Birmingham mad livarazurtoit ; Mr. HEY. WOOD. from ;Awes not heard: Sir DE LACY EVANS, from Westmunter Sir w. SOMERVILLE. from W..sb master Mr. PARKER. from Shetheld. -a faroer of the preservation of the crystal Palace. Coat. Drnn.—By Mr. HUDSON. from ihipowners of Sunderland ; and Lord HARRY VANE. from .aipownen of Hartlepool. St.-' and _ Stockton.. MiddlesboroMM, for a reduc tion of coal dunes. Jews :x PA/I.I.IAmENT.—By Sir D. LILL. from the electors of Greenwich. promo{ heard by counsel in .upport of the elum of Dand Salomon., Rm.. ono of thine representatives. to it and cote member of the house : also laottier ?cation. -.opted 1..:20 ...lectors of Green 'nth. who attached their -mnatures between 10 o'clock on Thursday night and I o'clock •os Friday Mr. R. CrRRIR, from the elector, of London. preying the house !mamma other threes) to admit by resolution Baron Rothschild. one ut their representatives. to Ms 'eat in parliament. or ;hat the petttimsers may 11 heard by counsel at the bar ,_, in __ ___,,.... _ ____ ._._ - ____ ._ _ _ ___ . . .aid that the uovernment ought I, port of the prayer of the petition. file hon. gentleman W • new taw, but merely that there .lienld be m inquiry. te inuedue words into the hill that would settle the grave' moved that the petition be read by :he clerk at the table, amok • request Xrd them eour. And he thought it wee iine doubts which at ;meant emoted as to its character, and winch was dom. they falls , nutled to make. His lordship cosicluded painted ..at the dangers which might arise from lea,* Bali ca ELECTION.—By Mr. COBDEN. from SO by mons' the - instruction. the get without such words to be ranted ' - ' 44 In 4 torero- ' electors or llarwiela , omplarnuur of the conduct ot Mr. Ile LORI) CIIANCELLOR saul there seas A great dia. meat tunic to the catholies lie .unzonneell that he I .mtwood. and praying that they may be heard before the auction between the ..rners os o imhop Anil :he Jurisdiction should , ippoee laird Montclair s motion. believing that : committee now intind, in order to prove their a ll ege/Loa& a a biakop—a diatuictiou which he .as .urrnial his the catholic, of Ireland had no wish to be separated. i CONSOLIDATED FUND APPROPRIATION) BILL. link friend had • .matted to out, because it was in every la due matter. from their co.relisnouser of England. ' hest mi the .oblect. The bishop .[craved ./. serum smiths- Their lordships then divided. w h en t h e numbers were-. • I The amendments to this bill were coun t ered and agreed rity from hiss charmer. lie was made a bultop by the in. Contents to portion A' %ands• but certain other mitten Bare to him Non-contents 4.,__,4 I COAL 'WHIPPERS ,PORT OF LONDON) BILL . a holy character quite independent .it bus .unsdiction At Rhea the gall war re-opened. On the motion that the house should go into committee ill. livery withal function winch the catholic 'Whops The Earl of AB/ RDEEN was stating that some time I°° this big. had esteemed • or might ,hereme would be completely avai l- ago th eir lordshlps !tad presented to them a p e t i tion from I Mr. LAI3OITHERE presented petitions . muneremely able mid ununpeacheAl '.:r anything that wee in nue 30 clergymen in •lcotland. who had -e pleated a te nuei,... maned. from the Inhabitants of it. Anne, Linea:ma St. tall. He believed that there was a ,eatriay iamb. from :he ;urisdicuon of the - ushops of that mantra. and !George's-in-the-East. Wapping . , and from the resisserod wait.A noble friend of loos animated to Km that who prayed their lordships to train them an episcopal c o o . rod whippers of the port of London. .ill in favour of tin mantises and other tete wont.' be void. 11, utterly *titan= of then two. The house had no power to acted: 101 l denied i t. He rood that A w ee t h e 1,„1, , hareater o f the to their doom, tat no exception was taken to the request I lie house then wear i nto comm i ttee. Several werhel bishop which gave au th ority to the to that he per. itself. lie ventured. however. to submit . that if they, or 1 aort:lat ent , were made oa W "ggegllOU of Mr. Wawa. ronlitd.. lie ,lid nut expect that :his 'object would have any other protestant sect should form on episcopacy uncap i One wee reeisted • by Mr. I..sboltehere. and the gallery was Mee dammed that night. The other notht he mar anted with the established church. they would come under I cleared for a division : but there only being between 20 and deem with his beaks and sathontiee oo the "abject. the openers of the bell, in consequence of the words in the 1 30 members present, no division took place._ The hon. ' bat it p aced of without say paint being meal upon it ; presable • • under cover of authority from the see of Rome. tramper. however . was P ee red"' on t° withdraw hilleastsd -6" tbereftwe be otid not refer to at. In A week. writers ter otheririee. - That. however. would be carrfing the Mat 01 ". 4" to slow the business to Proceed- I am lid eallislic. A proforma, at Onmersopernm of religious intolerance further than any one could have Mr. LABOUCHERE said he believed the commission had been constituted in inch a way Al to give general ran- Wbers without say perminag arrow it was mid nonemplated, (or no loubt the promoters of the bill only they mould perame faassions. bat tbey could met intended that it should apply to the church of Resat and to firths, and that all matters of detail might safely be left to rumor aay aet as loaner as my persienar home. papal airmonoll• then. &meats', that. awe were penes. rams evemrhem elle. la the amuse of some diametral:L. the Marquis of Laws. The b ill . Pooled.. through Nominee: the report to be That continued the rte emor human lord) would be Dona' and Earl OMIT explained that the boll was te apply receive° " • moada y . leand not / matter of doubt, bee dm: and therehre ..i ii: . sod Irelaad. 14,NDs CLACSES CONSOLIDATION (lIIKL.L.ND) he noble and .earned friend maid be nano to plain Deka el AILOYLL expromed a hope that beam BILL. any lathoniy that the blshop was set p ee t anas g = M i t Me would be no territorial bishops. but that all the The hoses then went into coommittir on this hal . mo m the character which MO alit to all his ha Amnia wend be so only by vutue of volunimy moral at the 4111 cisme. The ellftfld amm o nes e asi e funeemen. Ile =WC and Weed led Its. seined No en the part of their Seam times mai the home resumed ; the report to be , the firm qUegliat Plat to ism hr Lad nolueleo ash ail ha rhea mat Me commitne on the hill. Me day. if the noble lord intended to ask him whether if the Pope I Lord KINNAIRD moved the omunion of the lint clause, STEAM NAVIGATION BILL. 1 should appoint a catholic bishop to a diocese established by for he could not direst himself if the impreseion that it , On the owned for going into committee on this hill. the crown. relenting Its extent, that wou.l be A pretended , would affect the duties of the Roman catholic clergy. i Mr. .INDERbON risked for a poetponement Mr a week. we because the Pipe had appointed a bishop, he immured. I The Earl of ELLENBOILOUGII agreed with the n-ble to allow of some recent alterations in the bill being cousi n.. The neat question was, supposing, instuod of appoint- I lard opposite. As the appointment of parish priests de- : deed. .nit %bishop to a ,diocese created hy the crown. he chose to pended upon the jurisdiction of their bishops. in de- • Mr. LABOUCIIERE said that a postponement foe a erect, or to attempt to erect, a bishopric bearing miner the latter of their authority they annulled the ap- week would be fatal to the ehance of the 101 l passing this the same title with a diocese in the u-stablishel pointaaent of every parish priest in -very one of these pre- semen. To postpone its ;mooing this session would by a u•Oureh. lout was nut fenteMilflUtil or identical there- tended sees .. and, without claiming any precise informs. public end of an slight magnitude. with, was melt a Roman motholie diocese a pretended tion upon the subject, he thought there must frequently' The house then went into committee. diocese 'ender this bill i Ile said it was a pretended see. arise cases, such is marriages and the like, in which the Several clauses having been agreed to. .Inother question was whether the appointment of nears people were interested 'Ai that appointment. Ile -hould Mr. MINTZ moved the addition of the following Apostolic in England or Wales was rendered void by also he glad to hear mune:planation of •he operation of the , clause:—" .tad lie it enacted, that from and after the first toe :all, or were they subject to any penalty ? To bill upon the Charitable Bequests Act. because it struck ; day of January, one thousand eight hundred and Illy-two, :bat he answered that this bill had nothing to do him that when the bishop went to the commissioner to de- iit shall not be lawn' for an, steam-boat to go to sea. or to with it. Th is hill related only to documents from the Pope mind payment of a bequest in his favour he could not prove I sterraupon the rivers of the 1., rifted Kingdom, without having appointing archbishops. bishops, :ind deans, and 'lid not re- himself to be the bishop without producing the bull for his a safety valve upon each boiler, free frown the care of the lats to nears apostoiic. The legality of the appointment . appointment. and thus laying himself "pea to the penalty . engineer, and out of his control and interference. and also of vicars apostolic would depend upon another .4w, and of 1001. In likc manner a parish priest could not receive !subject to the approval of the surveyor acting under this with respect to that other law, ,iceoethog to the best of his his payment because he would be obliged to prove his I act. •' ~pinion, it would nut he unlawful. A further question was . bishop ' s jurisdiction in order to establish his own status. Mr. LABOUCHERE. while admitting the desirableness put, th at certain briefs, mania, sad !etters apostolic, . (Hear. hear.; .of the arrangement proposed, doubted the expediency of the hong declared and enacted by section one unlawful and' The LORD CHANCELLOR said that if parties were I house declaring by legislation what was sir was nut a safe void, would an indictment lie in respect of then : New, I married by a person representing himself to be a clergyman . construction for a .steam-engine. that which was declared :Linemen' and void was not accuse. Ino inquiry could possibly take place on the subject of lus The committee divided— seedy an indictable offence. They must see a what re• i orders . unless it could he proved not only that he was not a For the clause sp eet. it was unlawful ; they must look to the statute law clergyman. hut that the parties who were married were Against it and the common law. Give turn the menet. and let him I previously aware .of :his circumstance. If persons were The house then resumed. and immediately afterwards ,id me whether it came within the category referred to in the I married at church it would he a thing unheard of to inquire jaunted till a quarter before six o'clock. preamble, and he would endeavour to answer the question. 'into the ordination of the minister. In fact, in a east aunt- The Serraua resumed the chair at 6 o'clock. It would be unlawful. according to the statute .of Richard ! her of cases, where a mail was acting :a a public capacity, SUGAR DUTIES. II„, p rovided they affected the crown, the regality, or the ; his acts. as far is the parties .nterested a them were con- Sir J. PAKINGTON gave notice that early next motion mal. words. as lie understood them, which interfered with' weed. were established asvalid, although he had no auto- lie would call the attention of the home to the unequal the prerogative -Sr junsdicuon of the crown. lie , lid not : rity to do them. With regard to the Charitable Bequests competition between the Cuban ind Brazilian producers of apprehend that ail vicar-apostolic were •of the same cha- o Act, it had been drawn up m a very careful manner. and sugar :out those of the West Indian colonies. .ind would ratter. because .1 near-ApostOlic was s delegate ..f the Pope .in a way very different from the Cemeteries Act. move that the whole of the duties which expired on the sith with more or .....14 power. Ills noble isid :earned friend said :In fact, the latter appeared as if the party who of January -hould be continued. there was a :twat difference between that part of the loth; drew it had done so for some purpose. lie consideted NATIONAL EDUCATION IN IRELAND. Geo. IV. which related to the appointment of bishops of !that the Charitable Bequests Ace did not require it to he Mr. G. HAMILTON said he would bring forward early pretended sees and this bill. Now. what was the i proved that the parties hail a legal authority, hot merely next session the motion JP this subject which stood on the difference? In both cases there woe a penalty attached.: that they were discharging certain duties. (Hear.) paper in his name. 'The noble Lord had referred to the menaces he I Atter some discussion. ADMISSION OF JEWS. had made for •he promotion of the civil liberties The committee divided— Mr. R. CURRIE said that he would move that the .of the Roman uatholics. Ile the Lord Chanceilord For the elause petition which lie had presented from the elector; of the ventured to say that lie had made much aerate, mentions. I Against it - '6--a City of London be conutiered on Monday. Ile had a troublesome and an .mpennve contest in the 1 10.. On clause ' _• t:LERKS OF THE MEDITERRANEAN FLEET. rough , If Newar k which he mimed on for years on the ea.. The Earl •.f ELLENI3OROI - 011 observed that this Captiun PECEIELL wished to know from :he First Lord Mak utuestion. There was no max who was more ready to I clause contained the words •• such hull. - the word •• hull" sit' the Admiralty whether Any arrangement was likely to grant the Roman catholic' religious liberty than he was. It not being in any previous part of the hill, which showed be made for carrying out the prayer of the memorial of the was mid that he gave offence when he alluded to the car. the uktreme negligence in framing this zolPoreant bill- clerks of the Mi•diterranean fleet laid on the table 2nd dinars hat, and when his words were taken without tthat legislation for enigmas persecution had „Ink), for {ranting Mem the same rank and privileges is hApr e had h o p e d context they Ilakda appear offensives lost when they we ceased. lie deeply regretted that her Majesty's ministers awarded to the other subordinate °dicers on p•ain4 their taken with .he ersiteat they wouid not bear that c o ns true 1 had pared t h e I r i a n w ithi n w hi c h t h ey wen j int in e h is ...iti... Sir I , BARING mid that part of the inquiry lied been acceded to. And the remainder of the mentorml was under the consideration of the _tarnisher board. TRISii BrSLNEEE. Mr. RET:sIOLDS. under .`Over 01 A 11101.1011 that the house on rising should .uljoura until Monday. 'need A vehement complaint respecting the negligent manner :a. which the legislation having reference to Ireland was on ducted. .sad the Inert:mem • untempt =infested to the house towards hunted and .dher Irish representatives. Sir J. PAKINGTON interposed on A .1%11-IUOII of order. appealing to the Speaker to pronounce +nether the topics introduced by the lion. telemeter were not irrelevant to the motion tie had nude. The SPEAKER. however. raid that the course punned' be Mr. Rey:wide. theugh -xceilingly :atonement. was nut disorderly. Mr. REYNOLDS then proceeded. and read •he worse' he sad ,emposed for several important bills affecting Ire :and, showing when they had seen introduced. .sad :10.0. • often ;)OMPOUSti. lie stagniensed the present session is most disastrous and lisinaceful. and urged on the ministry the necessity of ;saying snore .leference to Irish questions if they would not .uduce a •ieep and irmilicabie diagnst among his countryman. 'sift. le. W BARRON' -et-mailed the motion. And .ulded various remonstrances touching the .areless did dilatory way in which ail the inenures involving the :enemas of Ireland had been treated by the British ,einsiature. On various iuestions touching on Irish, subjects, the rep:encl .-MVOS , if that country had seen outvoted by the tyrannical majorities -umpteen , sf English members. Mr. MONSLLL mad. deploring ae they all profaned to to the 'on of life :a Ireland. they ought at :can to pass the Medical Charities Bill .sad the Ilealth of Towns Bill. He hoped that 'he Valuation Bill Also would be got through. It was almost the universal opinion. both of Irish members And of the Irish people, that these measures were of the - ALMOSS importance. I Lord J. RUSSELL said ,us remote for not agreeing to the motion for aajourrung to %minty was that at can one Irish bill of .onsiderable ariportance was tixed teethe morn , :ag sitting 'n the following --,..then --day. ,•• Ilea:. : isear.•• .ind :auitater., therefore. for the same of the Irish i senesces. he must oppose the motion of the hon. gentleman. The hon. gentleman Mr. .:,:ynuids) had trniv stated that the chrense :eneth of this anemone on the liecienasucin I Titles Bill had :rustrated 'he -sidearours of the government :to settle the question a ministers money. It was ins „Mr. lievnolds' triumph. *not mil prevented the settlement 05 that question luring the present AGSIOII- sUesr, hear., lie 'aimed the hon. member wood out offer Any further op p.aution to the ;senores' of Irish measures. the measure' , reterred so were. AS had 'seen -toted. .1 oonuilemole im ' pentheir ance. but fate depended sa the assistance ...r I ~ pposition of Irish members. Mr. li. B. (IMRE mtg. seed that in future sessions mea sures reiaung to the social improvement of Ireland saouil be introduced -thy in the session. and that s morning et ' ting one 'lay in each week shuuld be allowed tor their ,lis -13114.114111. This would prevent the serious inconvenience of 1 throwing • seer such bills altogether. or bringing them on for discunion AS A lAN period, when Irish members were en gaged At lie tames. or •sti.sther ;mutter. ' Mr. sCULLY vindicated the 'ours taken by the hon. ' member tor Dublin. in taking the opportunity he had to ' draw attention to the neglect of 'he government in legisiat. rag !or Ireland. Ireland lied a claim to tier fur share of the penod , levoted to !einslation :a coca session. Mr. Serjeant MURPIIY. on the 'apiece of lainisten' money, observed that he received almost 'ldly remon strances from his constituents that some measure was not brought forward for the abolition of this impost. the CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUEIL stated that his noble friend Lord J. Rummel) certainly 'lid intend to swing :a a measure on the subject of nunietere money, but at present :tens impossible to tit the p recise time wnen. 'He hoped. however. it would ' so at in .Irly period of the ' neat session. With regard to the m Irish tills ora the ' paper, he was afraid that the hour And a mat' which lead been occupied by sun. members for Ireland in complain ing of delay, would preclude the possibility at bringing any of rata on to-night. :Rear, aver.) rho Improve ment 'd'rowns ,Irelandl Bill he proposed to take the tirst thing to-morrow ' the) • . THE PARES AND 111 CRYSTA.L PAL.tCE. Mr. W. LEY gave notice that on Monday he would pot a question to the noble rani the Chief Commute:Quer of Woods and Forests. :a reference to the proposed park for Pillsbury, whether there was my prospect of of/acting the necessary 'arriumements for the formation , if that park. And. in regard to the Crystal P slice. whether, SWUM how strong and universal the public •..elinit was ste favour of the re tention of that enilice. SI. -*menet which it was mad lead been , ntened into with the •emnussionen that the removal of the building should be , ommenced in November and be eompleted within six monde. would be allowed to he cra ned out 'tRE WORCESTER CATHEDRAL 'SCHOOL- Sir J. PAKINGTON was iinxions as the hon. member for Penryn ;Mr. Mows:et was in his plonk to be .illowed to snake as explanation on behalf of the Bishop of Rochester. i's hen that hon. member brought forward the ere of the Rochester Cathedral School, It would be recollected that he made a statement ,iii reference to the conduct of the Bishop +I liocheeter. while he head the sec .s 1 Dean of Woreeeter, which the right rev. prelate eonsidered to be sinjust and :orations to his character, and had consequently requested him ,Sir J. - Pakesurtoni to snake an ~ aplananon it the facts adverted to. the son. gentleman was reported to have said. - Now, with reterence to the appeal to the bishop, t was of COW'S impossible for him to interfere on behalf of Av. Winston without heroines; s temole condemnation upon himself, for he. when Dean of Worcester. besides allowitut the schools 'wing t, to dna into decay, had cut down the scholars' 'Upend t'rom 21. 13a. Ml. to .ie. 10d the bishop having read this state ment. and feeling that was unfounded and most unjust towards turn. thought the better course would to refe r to the master of the , cktool the 4ubject and he 'Sir J. l'atungton) oad a letter from the Mee. Mr. Wheeler, the head master .f tie I :athedril School. a gentleman known to inane hon. members present, is answer to the bishop's application. with ...Inch. with the_parmiesion ..,f the house. e would read. Ile 'tie. Mr. Wheeler said. 'peaking the scholars' allowances. " the stipend .if each King's scholar for the lam century hoe been 2/. 13e. Id.: that sum has :slimy+ been paid to diem, and ispaid to them still. The Dean of Worcester never had .usythinst to do in any way with the stipends of the scholars. The money was paid into. the hands of the treasurer thr the time being. .tnd .ia to the idegation that the ehool fell into decay while the Bishop of Rochester was Dean .4 Worcester. . Autho rised to state that there were 40 eeholan in it when he tame to the deanery, and there are to there still." Ile trusted the icon. member would `re saustied aster this explanation that he had oeen led into error. uid had nude AA unjust in regard to the conduct the nght reverend prelate. HOWATT said if he: had made any misstatemeau afecting the Bishop of Rochester or any Aker person, it was his duty to correct them, .ind to apologise for having oven utterance to them. ,Hear.; But in this case, with I the sande .•xception of the iast point referred to—that the !schools had -unit into decay—which he would not assert eta r Augment he had never made (or most of the morn isms papers—all. he believed, with one exception only— concurred in attributing to him such an expretalen), but he could coructentiously declare that he had never meant to say that the school had fallen into decay, tot he 'knew the contrary. But with regard to the main allegation that the Bishop of Rochester, when Dew of Worcester, did cut down the stipends of the scholars from 21. 13s. id.. which they originally received in 1542, and the equivalent to which at the present day might be estimated at between lent,and ‘sol.—not only did he not give them that equiva but withheld from them the 21. 13s. 4d. cutting them down to ss. 10d. Meat.) His authority for that state trusts as he said at the time, was the work on eatheebai trusts and their fulfilment. by the Rey. Mr. Wilma, a work which had already run through four large ditions, had been publicly criticiaed by various partite, who were elected by ita statementa—eriticised amonget others by the aeons of Rochester and Cluiterlsury—and it was a mat remarkable earcuanuee it the satranisat he (Mr. llowatt) made on that authority was incorrect, that it had never trees openly impugned by any of the writer who had ' attacked the worts. (Hear, hear.) lie had looked care fully through the papers written by the Canon of Canter ! bury and the Canoes of Rochester, and neither .if them impugned in any way this statement of Mr. Whistotas , and having given this authority at the time, he (Mr. Moreau) considered it would have been more to the pur pose if the Bishop of Rochester had addressed himself at We to Mr. Whiston .in the subject. instead of to him. II The hon. member having again read Mr. Whiston's state -4 meat, zeal that whether the statement he Mr. Mowatt) had made was strictly correct or not, he hail given his authority for it, and he hoped the Ikon. baronet and the house would unlit that that authority was sufficient to jor . tify him. (Rear.) • The eonversation then dropped. Mr. REYNOLDS then withdrew his motion for the ed. journment of the house to Monday, and gave notice that he would himself neat session move ter leave to bring in a bill to abolifli ministers' money in Ireland. BURIAL FEES FOR THE ROYAL FAMILY. On the motion of Sir B. HALL a return was ordered of all sums of money paid to the dean and chapter of WincLior since the Ist day of January, ISO°. on the occasion of any burials of members of the royal family, setting forth the . Idates when and the occasions upon which such iums were paid. REFINING SUGAR IN BOND. Lead 1. RUSSELL, in answer to a question from Sir J. Pakington, said he could not promise the hen. baronet an Fportunity of bringing on his :notion us this subject before iday nen. Sir J. PARINGTON expensed his intention of submit ting a resolution on that day. PATENT LAW AMENDMENT BILL. feeling of discontent as to the present state of the pa re.iThaure A u T t T th e s ltbli ilLEYtami ii EN t E ha ll t .lie ther a wa movi see ng . the, _rowing • tent law. Many eomptaints had been mule of the de lay, the r e . x f pe p nse at. . t:.. ind ,nd th i iderable foundation. .1 complaints were not without eons attemlant on the committee hail been appointed ioy the other house, the e t co P ti ee d nale not ty lie denied that those result of whose labours was the present bill. lie was aware that An ..pinion prevailed to some extent that patents ought not to he granted. but he could not concur in that new. All must admit that the object of lemsiation on the subject should be to develop, as far as possible, those inventions which were calculated to contribute to the wants. the com forts. and the enjoyments of mankind. Though the hope of benetiting eur species. and obtaining the praise and ap probation of our redoes. might is a strong Incentive to that hail of scientific pursuit and experiment br which alone useful inventions could be matured. he believed :t would lie found in general far :CM e tfleaeious than the ex experiments to bring them to perfection, a nd even then ucn ee i n nven i ti pe otts .ye re: them to the public woo were to be benefited try them. Tbo 'nll proceeded a the ern:done of 41TIT/1( personal reward 'Pectati n iuir ey ed .:tte *l n aluro a f st pec illsiete ur. r An 7 d ni wurd tla Pati y e. w n es t." :eeessary d' to introduce to the inventor, in the must appropriate way. viz. by itm curing him a monopoly in his invention for a iimited period. The meaner assumed that a patent should be granted to say • • t here were who held that there out. some ,ICIIOTI3 .70711 n th w e h Ill o Od i 7 4 ! 1 y ht wili t t rwIrd h 'hat a proli f si at on in rioni t l n imarn d la Ct amid be no inquiry as to whether 1 man should have a patent granted to lam or not. but that my person should lie at :Mem to reenter 311 invention. aid without any investi gation should be entitled to patent rights if he could sue ,ftsi TaaIUP I O , IIIK them against Ise rest of mankind. If the object were to oompensate W.stminster Ball for the loss of 'easiness which it was -aid had taken place in consequence of recent legislation. he knew • if no snore etfectual plan. hear.) But he . onceived the legis lature ought to guard the public against the assumption try any man of ruthts he was not entitled to if has inven tion was sot new. And to protect others who might by previous discovery hare acquired the right in the invention. It seemed to hint, therefore, that that would be ./ dange rous precedent to proceed 'mon. lieu.) Now• the ques tion was this--Siy what system they should determine the question of whether A person was entitled to the rights which would Accrue to him antler A patent Even one Admitted the present system to Ise bad. Its great defect was its entliaess. And that costliness ought, unquestionably, to tie reduced. Every application for a patent at present passed through no fewer than seven stages in seven .lifferent offices. Five of then otficesappeared absolutely unnecessary t but the result of possum through them All was this—that the party was put to an t. :pease of '4l. es. If he also took out patent for Scotland. lie had to go through tire ether iodine al that country, At an expense of 441. more: and if he took out mother patent for Ireland he had to go through live ; other el lees in that irountry at an expense of 1191.—making nearly 3001. In all. If there happened to be two nersous I joined :a the same patent additional fees had to be paid. Now. the bill proposed to sweep away these •itfices. •uni to have one common patent Meths three kingdoms. A person often desired to ...mum his eatent for the three kingdoms at oat :aid the same time, And the bill proposed to nye him • his patent accorditutiy, And most :materially to reduce the expense of timing it out. In addition to reducing the cx tense, hi proposed by the bill to give the inventor this very great advantage--namely, to distnbute the sum total he I would have to pay into three separate payments. making the tint And smallest payable et the time of granting the patent, the next and larger it the end of three years. And the third and largest at the end of seven rears. .11 Pre- . sent mat patents tell to the ground. and produced no etfect. A man very often took out a patent strong in lus expecta tions At the moment. before lie had in opportunity 'o test its ',elite by experience, that the invention was important: and he paid nearly 4001. Two inconveniences attended this. In the first place. it crushed ,ind paralysed the means of the poor man, and dfotded him no oppor tunity of imaging ais patent 'tefore , he public. The bill proposed in the tint instance that the cost d the patent Mould .se limited to 20/.. with an additional -if. atalal. , duty It proposed at the end of the third year to give him a re iiewai for tour years for tel. and 101. stamp duty. Be thus obtained An importunity, extending over three years. to test the' value of his experiment for 131.. and he obtained patent right for seven rears for 751. If, at the end of that time, the patent was calculated to be henetictal to the pub lie And to him. then lie would be in a condition to pay a larger sum: ind iceordingly the bill proposed that he should then pay eV. and A further -tamp duty •.t 20/. Therefore, the total cost would be lowered from 3001. to 1701., And its payment would be spread .ver a period of years : thus adording is,rreat advantage to inventors. The matter was experimental, mad therefore the proposed fees might probably be ramble of reduction hereafter. In the tint instance. however, though rive out Of the seven stages which now the inventor had to pass through were about to be abolished, and though there would be a great amount of tees 'lone away with. vet compensation would have to Se given the officers. .1 margin for this purpose had to be taken hut. testing the expense by actual ••xperiment. he had every reason to hope that they would be enabled. in the course of time• to lower the amount of fees to a point eonsulerably under that which was now proposed. (liear. hear.) Be now came to the question—in what mode was it to be determined whether 3 party was entitled to a patent or not ? This question had hitherto been left entirely to the lastrotficers it the crown. to whom the petition sent to the Secretary of State at the:Roaseedffee was refereed. Two great objections were urged Against this tribunal end he thought them well founded. It was said in the tint place that it was a secret tribunal. And that seerese, if it did mots arise from the will or inclination • •f the laweittleers, ;trove certainly from the necessity of the ease. It arose in this way—The report of the law odicen was made at an early stage of a complicated proceedig. It was. of course. the object o f the inventor that until his patent was sealed no one should know the stature of his invention. On the ether hand. the party opposing him. and .iseerting that he had the same inveation, came before the lawertflcen with the view of showing that he had some invention which would entitle him to the patent: and is he was exceedingly .inxicous that the ether man, whom he was opening, should not know its precise nature. he ob jected to its being made known. Thus, each was obliged to be hind in turn with closed doom And the consequence was. that a weret tribunal was inevitable. Now, the bill proposed to enable a man. at the trine he applied for his patent, to lodge in the elfin of the commissioner, what seas called provisional specification - —that was, a statement ••f the invention analogous to the deposit now required by the law Akers. Everyman was to he compelled to depart this specification, which was to state the true nature of his in ven it tion And its general features, 'wanner luta a latitude to ts, improve upon it if he could by subsequent discoveries. .1s soap as he deposited the specification , the bill proposed to give him a " provisional protection "—that was t that he might use his invention , make it known to the public. and make experiments on it in public, without any apprehea ,lloll that by its becoming public he would lose his patent. This protection would extend to six or eine mouths— whether to six or to nine months was not decided, but most probably in committee sit would be considered sudicient. Then , if a man imposed the granting of a patent to another , he would be compelled to lodge the particulars of his objections—thus doing away with weeny And loading the tribunal ..pen for both parties to lie heard. lieeame now to mother point—namely, to the abjection raised respecting the incompetency of the law °dicers to decide on :natters of the' nature. ft was true. it eery often happened that the iaw- others of the crown , though well acquainted with legal zdfairs , might not be sufficienny versed in science, whether ma mechanics, or chemistry, or to ha them other •lepartments. and • that, therefore, they were t i te emi ot o h n er of han pue d n , not competent to deal with questions of science. On was considered, y h wt nore to consti mmainthedqttaaaedre Beat mode m o it f od l waa a e w o . f d p T e r si o rab hus eceding or less of udicial legal Acquirements and habits to decide cute a hoard of examiners consisting of persons of scientific knowledge. to refer to them all questions of patents, to submit to them the provisional epecifications • to req uire them to report upon the eltficiency of the -pecifica *es and upon the nature of the conilict, if may, rad that upon this report the law-otficers should act. where the parties were dissatisfied with the report of the examiners, then it was proposed that they should obtain hearing from the law °dicers, the latter calling in the examiner, to explain and assist. and that the ultimate deci sion shoulebe left to the law officers. Expenses would not be increased by this proceeding, for the law "liken of the crown were willing to make personal sacrifices in this im portant matter, in order that the public might reap the benefit of their services . (Hear, hear.) With refe rence to the provisional speeificadoo, he omitted to state that at present a man was prevented especially if he were a poor nun without mesuie—froot obtaining the aria. tone° of capitalists for his invention, because until he got his patent he could not go into the market ; hut. by •he ' provisional protection for six months, he would be enabl e d to take his invention into the market at once _lnd obtain the rissistanee of capitalists. Client% hear.) The hill next provided for the proper clarification And register of all patents ; it also provided that the pecifications. atc.. , night Ire copied on payment of t small fee thus giving eery great advantage. .1t present, for tee want of some such record. a man, after having spent his enemy, Pa tience :red money in bringing an invention to per. fection. occasionally found that somebody else had anis ciliated him by taking out a patent for 'he same thing years • before. It was, therefore, most desirable, as rewarded public inventions and private rights, that there should 're some means of arertaining facu in Any particular depart went of mechanics, 10 as to prevent loss 01 time .ir.d ..apical. (Hear.) Then •here was a provision that where talons arising out of patents were !nought in courts of law. these courts should have :in equitable jurisdiction to settle the matter, so that justice might be Administered where ..quity was required without the expense and trouble of further litigation. There were one or two clauses in the • bill upon which some doubt might be entertained—such, for instance, as to whether a man introducing an invention I into this country which had'teen originall7 brought out in I some foreign land was entitled to a patent for it. Lrreinn these clauses to be dealt with in .oramittee. he had now stated the general provisions of the bill . and. although it might he said that they were dealing with :t subject upon which more would require to he done hereafter. vet he anticipated that the measure us it stood would be produc tive of many benefits to the scientific world. ',Hear.) Mr. J. L. RICARDO complained that an - grant to the principle of this bill was asked before time had been at. forded foe investigating the evidence. The present •ystem was an abomination which ought to be done away with; but the whole principle of the patent law was bad. tad the opinion of many of the most intelligent wittier:a should he abolished. The greatest inventions were unprotected .ry patents. Mr. MACGREGOR accepted the hill as A great =move ' merit upon axisung statutes. Mr. LAI3OCCIIINLE. in reply to Mr. Ricardo. -.bserved that those who advocated the total abolition of a ?awns law did so with reference• not to a rational. •rmpw. nd economical system. but to a complicated .41,1 ..xpensive one. This bill accomplished the object which all must have in view : without abolishing the •vstem Si patents..t mgr reeled the abuses so lastly complained of in the existing system. Mr. Labouenere then .sminiented upon the 1510. malice and costliness of the present taw. and thought that no rime should he lost in amending rt. Sir D. L. EVANS haring approve d the bill. Mr. ROUNDELL I'ALMMit. ..tud he woe favourable to the principle of the !till. which lid not. however. eo far enough. to catty out the prtnexple. lle .lid not -cc .ehy person ehould uot. on -cgiatertaa i .pectlication. Secure AS once a protection analisous to .openght. .Uter a few words :rum Mr. \V W:l.l.:asts and Mr. Mrxrz. Alderman iIDNET rose for the purpose ..t* s fallacy :is regarded the .vonomy which .t was :Tormented would result from this measure. :n :St; the :cumber of Parents registered for the three ,ingdoms was 712. which • yielded •47.44111.. n fees. fakir= the -flUle lumber to he registered in ih42, the amount •4 tees :iayable ender the hill now before the houses would _imount •ct therefore felt hound to 'ay that :a ommittee he -houid consider it his •luty to propose eertain resollawns :taring for their object the modification And reducdun 1 than kn. fhe SOLICITOR-diENETLIL 'tumid •ay, mtur, that these tees were at fire.ent. aid wouid !w. resrulsted •ry .pailuated stale, the resit:: K which uow was !hat were more patents taus' out !bah previously% 137 the pre. , . sent bill a Brest .uleantage would be 41Vets ?antes In "Its' !ding them to take tat patents for *tree years, by the end of wfuch time they ,ould not 'ins be aware whether the patent were worth keelnnsi .)? not. If useful to themselves :hey would ,:eep it; :f not, they could pct plenty parties .0 :lurenase them. Theretore, he should , ay the result was .ertaiti to be a considerable diminution is the payment •he to "dual parties. .1s regarded these tees :le /hould •ay • a very lame portion .if them went :a -tamps. iud mother large portion went to the oonsolidatcd Find. fliere -could be no doubt that the present measure would or ~e netietal. Indeed. there were no .ess than iiMl I , ersons it the . Iresent moment who had taken ':tat notectioa ../1 regarded the articles deposited by them at the heat Exhibition. `taif tf atom at :east were meet mxious that this :nil duluid plat, and who were only waiting that they :might then ippiy under t tie - ,aunts. Lie therefore -he - .Louse *venni consent *.o -eeond reading the measure. liter tow words from Mr. WA.X.LEV, the was read woad time. EMIGRATION ADVANCES' DISTRESSED DISTRICTS ,SCOTLANDI DILL. - - The house haring gone into .roratnittee on •tus Kr. S. CRAWFOILD • :pressed !lone that a nt,natire. containing Amilar prortsiona ad :he 2resent. .Iton:a a .n -traduced for Ireland. Mr. T. 5TT7.1.11.T ',caged to remind !he '.rm. rentteman .• I, that the exclusive let/ration. rtneurctl ')y :tott. vtuttemett from Ireland. was such to to , lissocaate that rountr7 :Yom the lemslauon practised towards liugland ACM iOOCLIIICI. As regarded the present 'all. he ipeogctt to +turgrot that sewing to the condition of property :n the western Wee. it would be well If a CLimle :nterpretation were added. which , could be , lone on the third reeding. Am.) lie would a/se , tmeest . to •ho ?Mkt hon. -rmtlemmi. that he &Wag take the land in the ..olony, which would 'w eet proved the labour the -duzrants. u , teuritv :Or the repayment of the per rent. 'rho inhabitants of inch; lands and :elands. who had borer with cxemni.nw incomes , he pressure .4 ,evere .listress. were .kservine • , t the ...on .leration of the irovernment. and , in •heir part he thanaed the Itovernment for measure. which would , rove sme &id both to the poor inhabitants And .o the 'owners ..t ,a-o !. perry there. The CIWTCELLUR of the EXCTIE(II - Ell, uimittat there had severe .Listrem :n the .sianns •t -teotiand. though :t was considerably -xieraerated. rho .ion. tnd 'learned gentleman wanted to •he oi •tie word owner in the hill. It had the -ame :neania.r A :iau .a the Jai 10 rim... and included all !tenons who represented the owners of :and. With regard to taking •he •.motual land as security, the , eating tnaciunere -•outni nut 112 71:64110 Available ter that purpose. .ind tie thuu.ctit that . he %re • sent period of the session A wottia rtut ente - 0 • •netinieer the measure with inch i rewritten. lie was .ttei • tut •me I measure met with the approbation of the :ton. out :earned . . c()W.IN thanked the rovernment consideration :hey had .tiren this -obit-et. .ifter some eonserration btll went throw and the house resumed. eno93 OMMlztee. METROPOLITAN INTERMENT .IDV IN(•E: 7 z. The house having zone into ..ommittee m •hie a prolonged .lisetuston took place !port reNnutton. which An advance 01 130.000/. was , snettuaett • ) !he 11 , ,ard o f llealth for the purpose .)1 :Juictuarig out .petung conetery. The ( ; 11,..LNCELLOIL a the I elinitur to manure the whole rt. , ponsfutlity Li-oonsing this Advance according. to the L , lessurt. ot -.ornament. •mo ' matted that until the money wm .waned. he , oarti could not propose 1 new cemetery, did • 'nu' •he :war eemetery was ready, they , rould not ,•mcetd Luse • too intramural interment places ~u to !tie 'MOWS health. Sir B. HALL said. io treat was their lis•rast the Board of Health, that lie ;Kiiieved the .anatotante of the metropolis would not arree to 4&and .ver •0 it this large sum of money. He take the .ense t •he house against the grant. If the 'pixirtl wanted money they might raise it by a penny rate. but they Istew well •hat the attempt would raise en outcry they feated •o meet. Mr. BELL said the abuses in the provinces respectira n tennents were quite 31 :OM AB they were in •he inetropotiti and yet this act was entirety ;ocall. throwing the , iitire .oh trol into the hands if the B oa rd of Health. Lord J. RUSSELL wished hon. members elinus.l t/O/C the evil seriously in the face. Were facer to prevail. _rent danger might arise from burials taking place :n •he Duda lof the metropolis. The Board of Health were empowered 'to act in this matter for the present. eventually, .n al probability, the control would be consigned to :he H-ianus of other parties. Mr. BRIGHT proposed !hat the matter •hould • ett as it was until nest aession..lnd that the rovernment shotud is the interim consider the hest mode nt manseing tie water, the sewers, and the intermenu of the metropolis. Yr. FORSTEII wished the hon. member for Manchester would tontine his attention to the borough he represented, and leave the metropolis to conduct ICS own In course of .liscuseion. Lord J. RUSSELL , aid the rovernment did not coin cide in all the plans of the Board .4 Health, hnt they I:er tainly did :wee with them in their desire to close the into hurial-pounds. _ _ Mr. WAHLEY made some observations to the ctfect that there had been unnecessary delay in this matter; and cons eluded by moving that the chairman report progress. Lord J. RUSSELL—The lion. member complains 4 de lay, and to remedy it would add to it. Hear, hear, and laughter.) After 4 ttuther convention between Mr. S. Wortley, Col. Dunne, Mr. Alcock, aid Mr. Reynolds. Mr. Wakley withdrew his motion that the chairinan repart progress. and the house divided. For the vote .Irrainst S. 4 6--1 Mr. REYNOLDS protested against the vote as most pro fligate. This was a vote from the consolidated fund to pro vide cemeteries for the richest metropolis in the world. whilst every other city was left to provide for itself. There was a talk of a ld. rate ; but nobody believed that that would ever be tivnklable. The House of Commons had ro fused money this session for charitable :incitation' in Ire land; and lie hoped that this im roper application of public funds would not pass uno bsstyed. The house then resumed. • POOR RELIEF ACT CONTINrANCE BILL. This bill, after ,ome discussion. passed through com mittee. Tie following bills went throurrh ,omnuttee rhe Chureh Budding _lets .intendmc at Bill pro form, ,: &c.. Contagions Diseases Prevention Bilk eiranumioners of Railways Act Repeal Bill : Representative rears fee Seistlamd Flill ; and the Patent Law Amendment Stamp Duties and Compensation) Bill. The Administration of Criminal Justice Improvement Rill was read a third time and passed. The house adjourned at hiagliast 1 o'clock. THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING JULY, 26, 1851