The Express. — London, England, 1853-06-17 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TIICILIDAT, JrNE 16. The Lumu CHAS( ELLOIL took his test at 6 o'clock. 11 lONS I'ItESENTED. 11/terser se U► see —lfy the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, from the St. Maryleborte Vestry, against the linkmen of Hampstead Heath. C lITATAL PALACE.-By the Eari of SIIAFTESBURY. from St. Mary Went, against the opening of the Crystal relate on Sundays NUNN LUIGI.— Li; the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, from Graosilsle, pra)ing for the insneetion 01 nunneries. IsuiA.--By the Earl of ALBEYARLE, from the warm' , burgessi s, and others of Jlanchester, eumplasuing of the ea ensue, duty on salt in India. THE CAPE OF GOOD HOPE'. . ...... Lord PANllVliisri;lseTltoWit:; question to his noble friend at the head of the colonial department. Ile found that a cottstitution had been mot out to the colony of the Cape of Good (lope; sod he wtsbud to ascertain a fact with regard to it. He believed a very Casa impression had gone abroad with reference to the preiitnt state of that constitu tion as compared with the ordinances submitted to the colony by the government of which he had the honour to be a metelwr. lucre was an idea that the present coastitution differed from the ordinances submitted to the colony by Fedi Grey ; and he wrs desirous of ascertaining that fact. Ile le ggrd, therefore, to ask whether the ordinances which they had lately seen confirm(' by her Majesty in council, which had been transmitted from the Cape of Good Hope, and formed the parliamentary constitution of that colony, differed in any material nopeet from the orders transmitted to the ealony for its consideration by Earl Grey some years ago? The Duke of NEWCASTLE' raid the answer he had to make would be very simple. Without going through the various stages this question bad passed through since 1840, it appeared to him that the question of his noble friend re *o'er,' itself into this—whether the orders in council passed upon his recommendation, and that of the preseut advisers of her Majesty, differed in any material respect from the ordinances sent out to the colony about three years ago? The alterations were certainly not of very great import ance, and he thought they might be comprehended under three heads, without referring to a number of very unim portant alterations. The three alterations as Interim the orders in council scat oat on the 14th of March last, and tho ordinances from which those orders in council were framed were these : In the first place, the franchise, which was tali as originally *eat out by Lord Grey, but which was in the ordinances se he found them, was flied at 501. per annum. The orders in council gave 241. as the paella sanitary franehi•e. The Earl of DERBY.—[[oases or land ? The Duke of NEWCASTLE Both. The second alteration was of much less importance, which was to raise the qualification of members in the Legislative Council from 1,0001. to 3,0001. The third point, and in his estima tion by far the most important, was the admission of certain words, the effect of which would be that the two houses of the legislature, with the meat of the governor of the colony, would have the power to introduce qualifications and alterations of their own constitution, even to the ea tent of being enabled. subject to the approbation of her Majesty, to divide the legislative body into two, one for the eastern, and another fur the western province, if cir cumstances should render it in their opinion advisable. That was to say, words had been added which enabled the colonial legislature so to alter the constitution. Those were the three principal alterations; acd he thought his noble friend would fiud them fully set out in a despatch lately printed and laid upon the table of that house, dated the 14th of March last. (Hear, hear.) LANDS IMPROVEMENT COMPANY (No. 2) BILL. Atter a short conversation this bill was read a second time, with a view to its being referred to a select com mittee. HACKNEY CARRIAGES (METROPOLIS) BILL. This bill was reed a third time and pwiLed. The report 011 the amendments of the Whiehwood Forest Bill wee brought up. RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS TO OATHS. Lord BROUGHAM, pursuant to notice, presented pe titions from certain of the clergy of the Established Church sad Dissenting ministers and laymen of the Church of Scotland, on the subject of oaths He stated that the petitions ease from Edinburgh, Glu. goer, and other places, and their object was to pray for the abolition of the compulsory taking of oaths in courts of bulky by persons who objected to swearing in any form on religions grounds. Lard CAMPBELL also had been entrained with thirty 's' p t. etitioas from different parts of Scotland, to the same slee CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL the LOREldifi:iallioitb;•giitupii. report Sr tbe select committee en the Charitable Trusts Bill. INCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL. TM LORD CHANCELLOR moved this Ant reading of a bill for continuing the act for the establishment of Irish lacumbered Estates Cowls. He stated that he had been la censmunication with the Lord Chancellor of Inland, and it was probable that a amainimion would issue to inquire into the best mode of amending the procedure ache Court of Chancery In Inlsad , which might eventually supersede the necessity for the lassebered Estates Court. The m ost bill proposed to eestiase that court for two years. The bill was rend a Ant time. VIES IN COUNTY COURTS. Lord BROUGHAM moved that a return of tho fees yen Mee the Uxbridge County Court 'hostel be pelmlod. Lent CAMPBELL wished to take this ow= making on espiesatiss sokresse esso Sleet bed Mies Ms his sable eel leaned Meal* a pi- Mess eessdes se the Shiest et the repletion of Me Ili the minty moth by the Is‘se is WeethdestestheL Rarely his =lb sot lewd thmil did net sties Is wo that tee =sae is ifesesieww-thil eslmlsisel es, the essegy slum ; es the essieem they l e r b i Zad yes *see emits with haw of leishome the =lathes hms as mama el booboo whisk with 11111011. it woo* be Mosseible fee them to trau ma. H. emit say of his ems aye that badmen lowed is rapidly, Mt theist be sad his beeeber judges eat late army day haring the WI Ins, may cases rentsised Dreg st the with Us Judge, for say Olket of the esperier owly ma hoe es lamed la prevestisi besisees hem rig Is the sins. essels. As the law sew Need the fees is Ihe ems* oaths were thus regulated. Thee were Are Peden of *me mule nem* by M. Lied Othemiller to As epos a meth of beg width es& wee is be seithiNed fee the mud* of these of the Judges of the regethre ovum The the WM, event is s i a lze di Md boa eippethisi far this ditty by !W MW esl friend (loth Inward'.)) ; they hal mole sus thak mole, sod it wen le Is admitted to his Ism* Meads >MLied 'Chief Dares, Nth _Justice Cowrie* sal lb. ' Does MOO. Other Wood persons bail elms thek as. Maths Is the subject with the view of Mai what wee beet de the bundle of the .It.. in tohe sses ~to is geodes. 3se y seta esthly m ill his coll es the bona were modem to do all they meld for the basalt of these nth" US while they leek lees that the Ms mead were set ea sithest, it wee their OW to see that they were mask* to reisseseate prefesehmel sass he the wrier rendered. After solo farther essossedis. The notice we speed ts, eel thole lordsidpe ed. jesraed at 7 Vets*. HOUSE OF COMMONL—Taoluiraz Juin 16. The Sriasma took tka chair at 4 o'clock. PRI VATB BUSINESS. TIN followiag bib; Mere7esi a tb rd time and pima : Abordmn Talkies' Ineas Wats LAyesbire and Gal loway (Smitharown and MlmOlugers) I g Bideford Ramose& Railway; Ea sod WM Lila DMus and Bir mingham Junction Railway (No. ng ileatris Company of Ireland ; Glasgow and Reath Wafts way /No. I) I Llenidiess and Newtown Railway' Rosana end rammateurs amain Railway ; WinzterhAlbg meetk, and Posies 'sale i lt d riff North Railway be.iipme IA sad Sal pershano te = s ; Capper Mims Illesbad Oaspisay ; , 'wind's Bade PUBLIC BUSINESS. ADVERTISEMENT DUTY. Yr. 11. OIBSON Ballad the attestiea of Chaseellor of the Exchequer to the reeelatioa coaceraiai the @elver tiseseut ditty. la t►at realutios be (the Maaallor of the Exchequer) proposed is reducing the duty to 6d., to impose it epos advertisements is newspaper*, and also in pamphlets and other works. These latter words be (Mr. M. Gibson) understood to refer to books. Now at the pre seat time the advertisement duty was sot collected is re speet to advertisements in books. He, therefor*, wished to ask the Chancellor of the Bultequer whether he guest to enforce the duty upon advertisement is the ewe of books, and whether be intended to bring is say miesare to pro vide fbr the cellectiou of such a duty ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had so is- Mahon of proposing any change as to the advertisement duty, 'seeps the reduction to the rate of M. Mr. Y. GIBSON asked theright hex. gentleman whether he would mead his resolution so as more clearly to express that etiew3 iIt• — CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER mid it would be open to bins to *resider the language of the reso lution; at present he was advised that it did not bear the construction which the right hon. gentleman (Illr. M. Gibson) bad put upon it. MR. KEOGH AND THE LATE GOVERNMENT. Hr. KEOGH—In rising, Sir, to make the statement of which I have given notice, I am sure I shall not ask in vain the indulgent lineation of both aides of this house, whilst I endeavour to defend myself against charges Ilt• reaching my veracity and derogatory to my personal honour, and I have that confidence because I have always bbserved that no matter what may be our individual or party (edicts, this hones receives fairly, kindly, and with • generous disposition any emeaunicatioe whisk say of its memben may be driven to make in vindication of his thane. ter. It will be in the recollection of hon. lumbar, that en Friday bat, In another place, there was a disenasioa carried on in +bleb my name was brought much in question. That dis cussion originated with a noble marquis, to whom I only now allude for the pupae of entirely passing him by. (Laughter) He was followed by the noble earl late at the head of her Majesty's government, who in the course of his speech thought proper to as, that he cmsidered my appointment to th e of fi ce I now hold as a meet unfortunate :immanence. Now, I say at once, that, however painful it may be to m y f ee li ngs to h ave h ear d that observation made by wi ellatinguishei a person, yet I do not conceive that there is as, Clung in that observation which I would he entitled to challenge, as I am cow about to challenge an observation from another person. The noble earl was followed h another noble, and, as I have i always heard, a very chivalrous, earl, and he was pleased o say he considered that my appointment was the least rela table which had been made by the present Rove raiment. Now I seared ly think that the expression to which I have alluded is justified by any circumstance which the noble earl can mention in deterioration of my character. I scarcely think that there is any rank or station so exalted as to jus tify any person in pronouncing such no opinion upon state me ats conveyed at second band, after a lung period of time, at least twelve menthe, conveyed by persons whose names are nut mentioned—(chi era)—cons eyed evitheut any know ledge of the person aho is most interested in the inquiry. I du wit think that such language is justified either in this or in any other house, without some inquiry and some opportunity being given fur the person so accused to explain his conduct. But so it pleased the noble cart to pronounce on my appointment. I was at the bar of the House of Lords, and heard the words said. I immediately communicated with a noble duke, who was kind and generous enough to undertake my defence. 1 thought that the remarks ought not to have proceeded from any one; but I confeu I was indeed sur prised that those observations were uttered by a noble earl who had held the office of viceroy of Ireland when I knew, and I shall prove before I sit down, upon incontro• unit+, evidence, that the noble lord (Naas), who Pits opposite to me, and who held the office of secretary to that noble earl, had sought me with eagerness immediately on the formation of his government—ichetrs)—had inquired not of one or two, but of friend after friend, in his eager haste to piece himself in communication with me, in order that the communication which I shall presently mention might be made by that noble lord. (Hear, hear) Now the statement I then made is the same which I make now, is that which the noble duke in another place made on my behalf, is that which I have put upon the face of the letter which, upon that evening, without aay kind of delibera tion, I wrote to the noble lord opposite from this house. That statement is, that the noble lord having sought an in terview under circumstances which I shall presently detail, did, at that interview, ask me would I accept °Mee under Lord Derby's government ? I admit that that was rather a perilous issue for one man to take with another man. I confided, however, in the noble lord's honour, and I trusted to the accuracy of his memory. Now, what are the circum stances which it is necessary for me to mention before I proceed to read the documents? In the first place, it wilt be in tho recollection of the house that the formation of Lord Derby's government, till etl the appointments were I concluded, occupied some nine or ten days. It was late in those days that the noble lord was named as the Chief Seers. tary for Ireland. It was necessaay for those who were en. gaged in attendance on the house to make inquiry as to political matters, but, I confess, at that time, not having the remotest idea that I could be concerned in the formation of Lord Derby's government, I took no interest in the subject. However, my bon. friend the member fur Tipperary is in the house, and be has communicated with the noble lord I be lieve lately. However, before the noble lord meting hewn so anxious in his inquiries for me, he asked my hon. friend the member for Tipperary to take him to my pri vate residence. He did not find me there, and he went to the Reform Club, of which I was not a member at that time. The noble lord had inquired at the Reform Club for me. Ido not know whether that has escaped the memory of the noble lord. The noble lord is silent. (Lord Naas : No.) At all events, I can refresh the memory both of the noble lord and the house on the subject. The noble lord went to the Reform Club, and baring been informed I was not a member of the club, he inquired for other friends of mine there, and he waited in that hall, which, when mi nisters are changing, is a sort of political encampment. Well, the noble lord did not find me there, and he was extremely anxious to meet me, because immediately after wards he made two visits to the club to which I did belong. But as the circumstances which occurred there are men tioned in the letter which I have to read I will take the liberty of reading it now : " Reform Club, Friday Evening. " Dew. Lord Naas—l have just returned from the bar of the House of Lords, where I beard Lord Eglinton state that bo considered ray nomination to the office. I now hold, the beet reputable of those made by the present government. tripMli bearing this I at once communicated with the Duke ag seweastle, and authorised him to state that immediately woe the ahem. of government in the year 1852, and he irs the minleterial arrangements of Lord Derby had been sempleard, I was sated by your lordship whether I would accept office under Lord Derby's government, • question which I had answered in the negative. The Duke of New- Nene stated this to their lordships, and thereupon Lord Derby, in the most explicit manner, denied that he had ever authorised any such proceeding, and 1, therefore set once address you. It will be in your recollection, therefor, shortly after I,ord Derby had undertaken the formation of his ministry, you ailed at my club at least twice, on the one day, leaving on each occasion your card, and subsequently a note requesting to see me at your house upon the follow ing morning. I oalt'd, but did not mu you, as you after wards informed me, by some mistake on the pert of your servant, and you spin wrote requesting that I should call upon you. I did so, and after some convevation of no importance you stated that you had been directed to ask me whether I wield accept ofte under Lord Derby's government. I jestingly asked you if you intended to make me Chancellor of the Exchequer, President of the Beard of Control, or some such offer. Yoe replied that you W asked me a serious questioo. and expected a serious an swer. I reminded • you that you had not stated by when authority you put the question, and you replied MI Mier Beruford's desire, adding that he was in comma. shades with Lori Darby. (Laughter.) I then told you that it was I=mm* to Join Lord Derby's govern ment. Me* having subsequently spoken to me he • depessialle Isucuttlet opposition I thought it my duty to Ilitelleiduenilqr s government in the Hove of Orikame. isabial aft den I expressed my surprise at IM I lad beet asked to take wa s by Ise. sea/ bet my hostility the more as ho was the poses who had with Lord Derby in referent* to my same. (Hear, With the distinct reeolisetion of these fasts on soy miked, I need searealg say how much Lord DueWe deebonlima emprisail me. sod I have there fore to august that year lesablpos a smatter of justice to me, will, is reply, state that the aanaties I have given of say intervkw with you is sithelestially sernet. Our friend Mr. Anthony O'Flaherty was aware of your calling upon me at sty club. I showed labs your notes as I received them, and within half as hear after our interview ounntu sleeted le him the deans et our oonvenation. I have now read to am We Maur, aadbeperfectly ritheare with a as to the eseeney of sty reeolleetiost.-1 remits, dear Lord Naas, yews faithfully, " Wu.t.thrt &room. .• To Lord Nam." I think whatever elm that letter does, the latter matinee which I ham read, sad which I hate read in Ma preemies of my has Mead dm member far Galway, disposes of the Mao while was raised by the aside earl is mother place, that this Imam was for the lost time raised after my ap pMalmaat te the ales whish I saw boa I ant that letter to the aoldelsed wpm Friday amain. I bad uo reason to think that tho mak bid was ass is tows. I had seen bias myself near tows as the inevisas day. I waited Batarday, and ',towards Mein& net meeiriag a reply, I in quired if the mills iced had arrived at hie club. I was told Do had me, but he was espeetod. I waited till Sunday. No easwer. Oa Sunday. beial i l/ anxious that the matter should Do decided here—( Naas, "Mar, Nor. ') TM mkt* lord Meets; is tits noble lead saailas that it shoal/ he &died hero ? Has the noble lei losa &dross that the whets el this bailey should seam halm this home, the prow sound t tee Ito been of that minim Mai the esemeammam—was Its of that opinion yesterday—was he if that 'Maim today was he on half as hoar ago t Oa Monday I wrote mother totter to the noble lard, which is is these words " Rekem Club, Monday. "Dear Lord Naas,-1 addressed a letter to you on Fri day evening to the Carlton, and on inquiry on Saturday and yesterday was informed that you had not been in town. I sailed this day at your how* ' and was told that you are still absent . May I bee she favour of a reply as soon as possible after your arriveL—Dear Lord Naas, truly yam, " Lord Naas. Wu.i.zam Ksoom." 11. ire the noble toed wee cost of towaToniihar day sad on Bendey, but be hid isbeimal to town ea Kea, day, sad he had my two lotion babas be came to tltia bosh, because the noble had asked, esitegh. a Mead of alias in this bow 'Mew Ibis guidon was likely to be brought before the Haw of Comatose. The noble lord was in the division on that evening; he bad my two letters ; it Is set neeessey to say that they regebed an immediate reply. He had my second letter peemieg is immediate answer, sad I had to wait till two Alba the follow*/ day before the noble lord and a gallant Mead 01 his entered the some of his first visits, the Reform Club, and dithered the letter which I shall read to the house : " 4, Oroevenor-place, Tuesday. " Deer Si,,—! only received your note last night, on my retara to town after an absence of some days. I distinctly deny that either direetlyor indirectly I made =offer of office to yourself or to any of your friends, or that I had or that I assumed i hat authority from any one so to do. As to the interview which took place between us shoat the period to which you refer, my recollection of it so essentially differs from the venion given by yourself that I cannot admit its accuracy or the deductions you seem to have drawn from it.—Truly yours, NAAS. "To W. Keogh, Eal." Well, now, I my that no language can be more positive, more precise, more comprehensive than the noble lord's denial that he made sae any offer. Doe* the noble lord mean by that denial to deny an offer of aloe, or does he mean to deny what I asserted, that be asked me would I accept office ? (Hear, hear.) If the noble lord means to deny not only an offer of ode, but to deny the only thing which I asserted, namely that he asked me, be being nomi nated as Chief Secretary for Ireland, would I accept office ander Lord Derby's government, thea;erhat means the noble lord's word, " indirectly 1" If it ran thas :—'• I distinctly deny,"—leaving out "directly, of iadirectly,”—" that I ever made you an offer of of ee," unquestionably it would not be a denial of the question which I said was put to me by the noble lord. But the noble lord says that neither directly aor indirectly did he make me an , offer of office, and therefore lam to assume that the noble I lord did not put to me the question which I stated he did. Did the noble lord deny that he bad put the question—not made the offer—that be had put the question by the direc tion of the right hon. gentleman the member for North Essex (Major Beresfard)—does he deny that, or admit it, or forget it? Aid I ask the right hon. member for North &eel whether, amiss me at that door. be did not lead me to the window of the division lobby, at a morning sitting, and—l the the word not disrespectfully but as the best for description—he did aot whiningly complain of the attacks which I was making on the then government, ; and when I stated to him that I had a perfect right to take what course 1 thought proper, and expressed my surprise at the remonstrance, did not the right honourable gentleman sziy to me, "Of CZUTIN you have, THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, JUNE 17, 1853. but really we expected better things of you, I seeing that Lord Nue had asked you to take office." i I want to know, did the noble lord, when he stated be bad the authority of the right hon. gentleman (Major Beres feed) to pot that question, did he mean to admit that he mentioned the right bon. gentleman's name—did be mean to admit tha , , or did he mean to convey to me that he was entirely ignorant, either by knowledge he had then, or subsequently acquired after the receipt of my letter, that the conversation with the right hon. gentleman, to which I have alluded, had not taken place But the right hon. gentleman, I am sure, has a memory which is accurate enough for my purpose ; and. lest I should be mistaken in that supposition, I would re mind the right hon. gentleman that a friend of mine, the hon. and learned member for Cork 'Mr. Berjeant Murphy), was close by when that conversation occurred. Now I come to another branch of this case which I think, if every word I hare said were out of the case, would place the noble lord in no very enviable position. Recollect, the noble lord held conversations with other persons besides me. I am now about to mention the name of a friend of the noble lord—an early friend of his—not known now for the first time, • gentleman to whose honour, veracity, and high character I should have no hesitation in asking the noble lord himself to speak. I recollect distiactly that in the summer of last year the lion. gentleman, the brother of an hon. member of this house, told me that he had met the noble lord, and that the noble lord had made many complaints to him of my conduct in parliament. The gentleman to whom I refer is the brother of the hon. gentleman the member for Galway, and he was a candidate at the last election for Dungarvan. He left this country for Ireland in company with the noble lord. They travelled together, they crossed in the same steamer, and they travelled to gether from Kingstown to Dublin. The noble lord was pleased to make some observations respecting me ; and I asked my hon. friend—for after the circumstances which had occurred I was prepared for any species of denial— (hear, hesr)—to give me as accurately as he could the sub stance of that conversation. My hon. friend wrote me a letter in reply, and that letter I will proceed to read. The noble lord is not unaware of its contents, because, although I have been treated in a very different manner, I thought it was right and proper that the noble lord should have the result of the information conveyed to me in that letter ; for my hon. friend told me that, however disagreeable it might be to the noble lord, he felt it was only just to give me the benefit of his statement. (Cheers.) Mr. O'Flaherty writes to me thus "37, Jermyn-street, June 15, 18.53. " My dear Keogb,—l have a perfect recollection of the conversation between me and Lord Naas, to which you refer as basing been communicated to you shortly after its occur rence. It took place during a journey to Ireland last sum mer, when we were both going over to our respective elec tions. Ile spoke in terms of much disappointment and regret at what he considered your ungrateful conduct, in making an attack • few evenings previous, in the house, on Mr. Disraeli; as they had deserved a kinder consideration from you, after the feeling evinced in his having sent for you and asked you whether you would take office under the government of Lord Derby. (Cheers.) [I do not think the noble lord will venture to throw any doubt upon the veracity of his and my friend. (Cheers.)] Lord Naas never mentioned to me whether or not be made this offer by direction of any other person, but he dwelt much on Mr. Disraeli's kin d feeling towards yeu—(laughter)—and said that the step he had taken entitled them at least to have hoped for a more generous forbearance. I thought he de sired his remarks to be conveyed to you, and 1 mentioned them when I saw you. I have written to Lord Naas, ap prising him of my having given you this letter; but I trust, unless absolutely necessary, you will not bring my name in question, as, independent of other feelings, I should be very sorry personally to take any course disagreeable to him.—l rennin, very faithfully, EDMOND O . FLAIIIIITY." Will the noble lord be good enough to explain to the house how, after thiastatement, he can distinctly deny that, either directly or indirectly, he ever made an offer of office to me ? An bon. gentleman who is a political supporter of the noble lord has had the candour to tell me that be would rise in his place and confirm what I am about to state. (Cheers) On the day oa which I had an interview with the noble lord he had been offered the chief secretaryship of Ireland, but he had not then accepted it. I asked the hon. member for Youghal whether he recollected my coming out of the noble lords house on that day, but I told my bon. and learned friend that as he was a political supporter of the noble lord, if the question was not in accordance with his feelings or views I would waive the advantage of his reply. Greatly to the credit of my hon. friend, however, be at once said frankly, and without a moment's hesitation, that however disagreeable to him it might be to appear in the matter, and whatever consequences might result from it, I should have his testimony either here or elsewhere. (Loud cheers.) " Unquestionably," he said, " you shall have my testimony ; and, moreover, you shall have this additional circumstance, namely, that I had to wait in the noble lord's ante-room for at least twenty minutes while you were with him." (Cheers.) Well, then, the noble lord did disease other questions; for I will not shrink from anything that has the most remote bearing upon the questim. The noble lord inquired of me about his prospects in the county of Kildare. The noble lord asked me whether I and my parliamentary friends were disposed to give him opposition. The noble lord sits there, having declined to do me justice, although the noble lord knows that from that time I have remained under a weight of obloquy and slander—aimed at me as only such things can be done by the Irish press—(cheen)—for I have been charged with having sold the county of Kildare to the noble lord, and with having made a corrupt easetpaet with him. (Cheen.) It was impassible for me, without soaking • public disclosure, to stem that tide of calumny and slander; bat it was open to the noble lord, by • single word or alines line, to have relieved me from that obloquy. Now I call upon the house to rensemberli the solemn denial of the noble lord that either directly or indirectly he had made an offer of office to me, and I call the noble lord's attention to these circumstances, resalading him and the house owe more that I have sever asserted that the noble lord "offered " me office, but that what I have always asserted, what I now mart, and what I always will assert, is that he asked me if I would accept Ales if it were offered me. Hut we all know what that means. (Loud cheers.) Is there any politician in this loam so young as for a moment to doubt what is Use saseminw of snob a condom when put by • Chief Secretary for Ireland? (Cheers. Recollect, too, that all this took plow at the day on which he himself bad been offered, hot when he had not yet accepted office. (Hear, hear.) Td. Me is just as if a gentleman were to go to a lady sad say, " tipples I were to offer to marry you, what would be your answer ? " (Great laughter.) Perhaps the aebio lord may shift the expression to some other analagonsAme, as , for inatanee, " Suppose you had been offered weld yea have ac cepted it ? ' . (Chews.) But is be ea both to the hones to suppose that they would beed amok worked aleeties, even if the noble lewd should attempt them.l Malt believe that be will deny my statements; foe sr nalleminal ex position bee Wight in that whoa mesa hen mommitted themeless so for as to make admission Was poem liv ing witnesses they no scarcely sae, op nee cgs enough to deny them. glkeers.) Now, if that is the OWN the noble lord does net deny what I have said—whet, I ask, becomes of the denial of the noble earl, repeated ea Tuesday night at the out of the noble lord ? (Hear, home.) When I nano& Urnthe sobie earl was going to mho a otatoment in moan phesi meetly seat a friend to Wm Se %. that it was set far to do so. I had given wan of my Om to bring the WOW bane the Hasse of Commene— enough had been said without amelme—and that I ought to be darn& some small time to make my defence. (Cheese,) The answer, Riveter, was that the noble earl was pled.* to the noble lord to rtAnat that solemn and unequivomol lonia (Bear, he The aeon is now shifted, and the aside lord and myself an now in the manes of earn other. (Conn.) The house ha l bend my statement, and it has heard this haters read. ask the country to consider whether the probabilities of this case are with me or with him, other the died testimony of diendereeted person which they haw bend; and I no fen that a true vadat will be returned. (Lath etheen.) Lord NAAB—thr, I rime ander eiresmetanose of a very Wien. I shall certainly not claim the at -Ilen bolos Isr am how mid ten minutes, as the ism. smi Isms' semelosmsa isas; bat I shall ia • very much shofar time make the staismems which I have to lay before them. It will an be adorned with the powers of rhatorie. or by the powers of eloquence which have been teed by the hon. and learned, gentleman • but it will be a simple elnloleat of the troth (Cheers.) air, I have listened In *alma horn sod lye Wastes to the betrayal of private 411141111 W, of hafts, and of private conversations Wows sma oh !") and to 61111 distortion of words morn in mash arnersations. (Oneforna.) Under these dreaminess% Irnmathre, I de not that It turnabout ea me to Maw the ism. mad lama osmismema dissesh the web of summoning dem& white he has latrodmosi hne the dis cussion. (Cheers.) I have a simple summon to make, and that I shall do undeterred by the eloquence sad midis! stayed by the threats of the hon. gentleman. When I have done that I shall be able to appeal to the house, which statement they consider to be true, and which they will be inclined to believe. (Cheers.) Fortunately, my memory is quite Acura e upon the facts I am going to state. Now, sir, I will just refer to the terms upon which the hoe gentleman and I stood during the latter part of the last parliament. We certainly came into parliament together, and for some time we sat together on the opposition benches. The learned member was also a member of the Carlton Club—(hear, hear)—to which I likewise belonged. Though we differed upon many essential points from the earliest period of our parliamentary life, there existed a considerable cordiality between us. At the period just before the formation of the late government, I was in constant communication with the hon. gentleman on the subject of a motion which I then felt it my duty to bring before this house. He called often at my house, and I saw him in other places. The motioa to which I allude was with re gard to the conduct of the then Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. The bon. gentleman was fully conversant with the facts of the case, and he told me that he intended to speak in sup port of my resolution. (Hear, hear.) When . the debate took place, however, it was not considered right that he should take part in the discussion, as he had been profes sionally employed in the case ; but he told me of his inten lion to do so. Well, the very day after that motion the government was thrown aut. My motion was made on Thursday, and the division on the motion of the noble lord (Lord Palmerston) took place on the Friday. ' On Saturday Lord Derby received from her Majesty the task of forming a new ministry. Shortly afterwards—l cannot recollect the day, but I thiuk it was on the Tuesday —an intimation was made to me that it was very probable that I should be offered office—dependent, of course, upon the probability of my being elected. (Hear, hear.) D ur i ng that time I thought I might safely refer to a member of the opposite party, and a political opponent, to inform myself whether or not it was likely that I should be opposed. I had between Monday and Thursday, upon which day the interview to which the hon. gentleman alludes took plan, lad three or four communications with him upon that sub- I jest. I think the house will admit that in those communi cations there was nothing that any man had a right to re proach himself with. (Cheers.) I eo not understand what the hon. gentleman meant by his allusion to the attacks made upon his character by the Dublin prey+. I own that I was astonished at the extraordinarily malignant I attacks that were made upon him, but I mast say, with reference to that election, that I did meet with the most friendly feeling from the hon. gentleman opposite; and I believe that he did exert himself—without, of course, in the least degree compromising his own opinions—to pre vent my having a contest. (Cheers.) Oo the day to which the hon. gentleman alludes I had the interview with him to which he has referred. Now, it is perfectly true that I did seek the hon. gentleman, as he has described; for I really wanted to speak to him on matters of es me impor tance, the most important of which was my own election. (Loud laughter.) That to me was a matter of no small importance; but if any hon. gentlemen means the house to infer that he does not believe what I sty, let him rise up it: leis plate, and I shall be prepared to meet him. (Loud cheers.) Well, sir, on the day in question that interview took place. It was on a Thursday. I can fix the day, be cause it was the day of the election. The hon. and learned gentleman came into my rooms; we discussed for sonic time certain topics of varied interest, and amongst others, as well as I can recolfrct, my own election. I recollect dis tinctly putting to the hon. gentleman the question and re ceiving the answer upon which the whole charge is based ; and I think that when the house has heard that question and answer, they will agree that a more serious charge was never based upon such trumpery grounds. (Cheers.) I will afterwards tell the house the reason why I put the ques tion ; but I asked it of the hon. gentleman in perfect confi dence, never thinking of the use that would be made of it, or supposing that the hon. gentleman would endeavour to damage my character by its mesas. (Cheers and cries of " Oh !") I asked the hon. gentleman this simple question— " If office had been offered to you under the new government would you and your friends have accepted it ?" (" Oh !" and cheer.) I fully admit that in asking that question it might have been imprudent—perhaps it was. It might have been improper—perhaps it was ; but I can safely say that the intention was act as the hon. gentleman has said. (Cheers.) The hon. gentleman made an answer which I perfectly re collect. It was not, as the hon. gentleman had said ; nor did I ssy, " I asked you a serious question, and I want a serious answer ;" but the hon. gentli man said, "I think that after all that has occurred, and after the part that I and my friends have taken in overthrowing the late go vernment, some such offer might have been made." (Loud Opposition cheers.) After that we proceeded to discus other topics connected with the prospects of different par ties at that time; and the hon. gentleman in the course of conversation asked me a question which I thought was rather peculiar. (Hear, hear.) He asked me whether any person of authority with government knew, or had autho rised me to ask that question ? (Cheers.) I said, "As you ask me, I must tell you that Mr. Bereatord knows that I am asking this question ?" (Loud ministerial cheers.) Hon. gentlemen opposite seem, from their cheers, to think that they have made a most notable discovery ; but when I tell them the interview that I had had with the right hon. gentleman (Major Beresford) two hours before, they will not be prepared to sneer in the way they do. (Hear.) I made that answer, because I was bound in honour to tell the boa, gentleman, and I told him the truth on that occa sion. I had been walking that morning in St. James's-square when I met the right hon. gentleman. I asked him what news there were, and commenced a conversation. He said to me most distinctly, " I wonder what position in the new parliament the Irish party are likely to take with re gard to the government ?', I said I did not know ; but as I was on friendly and intimate terms with the hon. gentle man opposite, who has made this attack on me, I added that I should have no hesitation in asking him the ques tion ; for I had intended to ask it as a matter of informa tion for myself, and in order to ascertain whether they were disappointed at not having office offered to them ? (Cheers) Well, then," the right hon. gentleman made this statement to me, " you may say at the same time from me that the government have no unfriendly feelings what. ever towards them." (Laughter.) Now, air, that is the reason why, when the hon. gentleman asked the question, I was bound in honour to say that the right hon. gentle man knew that I was going to put the question ; but I do say this, namely, that the right hon. gentleman never au thorised me to make any offer whatever to the right hon. gentleman. (Lend cheers.) He never authorised me to ask even the question I did ask; or to make any communi cation beyond the statement that the government had no other than friendly feelings towards the hon. gentleman and his party. (Cheers.) But I have so great an objection to what are called "authorised communications" of any sort or kind that I did not give the message to the honourable gentleman, and in further proof of the truth of the statement I have made, I the day before yesterday mention the result of that inter view to any one single living man. (Cheers.) The hon. gentleman left my rooms, as it seemed to me, without any impression that an offer of office had been made either to him or to any other of his party ; and my impression —to do him justice—was that if an offer had been made, he would not have Mime it. (Cheers.) Now let me call the atten tion of the house to the day on which this conversation took place. It took place on Thursday by which time every , office under government was fi lled up. (Cheers.)) The , authorised list had appeared in that morning's Times; and it is quite impossible for the hunoarable gentleman , looking at that fact, to pretend to say, by any construction that could be put upon the words that paned between us, i that an offer was intended. (Loud cheers.) I feel it in cumbent on me to say, after the statement I have =de— an(' which I declare upon my honour to be true—that there 1 is considerable probe.ility in the interp-station the hon stentlitnan has nut neon what occurred at that interview: i but I as also safely say that in putting that question on that day, I have a distract recollection that I was only ask ing it fir my own information,: as to the course the hon. , gentleman's party and other parties were likely to pursue. i That is the statement I have to make concerning the inter- i view I bad with the hon. and learned gentleman. (Cheer,.) And when I assure the house again and again that I never did mention the subject of that interview to any one connected with the government, or any other person whatever, I think I may lay my hand upo n my heart and ask i the house to believe th et every_ word have said is true. i (Cheers.) A letter has been produced, stating that I said, i in • railway train, going from here to Dublin, that I had I made an offer of office to the hoe. gentleman and his friends. , It is perfectly impossible I could have made that state ment (Cheers.) Aad I cannot doubt that the gentleman , who mesa such an assertion—l do are call it a willing assertion of what is untrue—but he must be under some strange mistake. Will the house believe that I mentioned a subject to an honourable gentle man who is a political opponent, which I a mentioned to any other person ? (Hear, hear.) What could be the object of my making each a statement to Mr. O'Flaherty ? In the first plan it would have beea at variance with the fact. (Hear, hear.) Perhaps, viewed i through the light of parliamentary discussion, where every- i thing that is done by • public man is senttinieed, there may , be some not disposed to attach full credence to all I have said. I communicated freely end funk)/ on the subject, under the circumstances I have stated. (Hear, hear.) When I was asked the question which has been commented upon so much, I answered with truth ; and that answer has been endeavoured to be fixed upon as a mode of implicating not only myself but other more distinguished individuals in charges which are without foundation. (Hear, hear.) The Ice. and lensed geatlemaa may have the ability of • 1 lawyer for rattling up a ease against me as against • pri- i suaer—(hear, hear)—but I believe his ingenuity will not i prevail; and the proof that I have given—end I pledge my own honourable word to everything I have said—will be sufficient to convince the house and the country of its truth. (Cheers.) I freely admit I may have committed an , error ; hut it was not an error of princi le, it was an error I of judgment I believed that I could j udiciousl y, freely, and frankly communicate wi th amass w. , though • polls , tieal opponent, I at that time believed to be • friend. 1 (Cheers.) And I regret to say that, in this ease, parlia- , meatary warfare seems to be degenerating into reentaina- , tory and personal attack—(hear, bear)—sad it is thought a , 'manila object now for a statesman to endeavour to damage the motives and character of his opp onents . (Hear, hear.) Such never will be my course ; and in spite of the plausible statements of the hon. gentleman, I deny that it ever has been my course ; and I maintain t hat I have not, on any of the occuions referred to, done anything that is in the least degree dishonourable. (Cheers.) Major BEHR/WORD said he had listened with serious attention to the charge sad the explanation that had been given. He had come there, not to make • long oration, but to state distinctly wha t knew, and to stand on what he had done. Then were two wholly distinct parts in Mr. Keogh's speech ; first, as to any offer, or bland offer, of office made to him by Lord Naas, and autborned by him (Major Beresford) ; and, secondly, a private conversation which Mr. Keogh maintained to have been held between them—evidently, by his own account, in a secret and con fidential way, and which had been now brought forth, as was the custom of that house and these tomes, to be a con demnatory matter against himself, and a matter of reproech against his noble friend. (Hear, hear.) Without treat ing the words in a jesuitical sense, as to whe ther they amounted to an offer of office or not, he distinctly stated, in the presence of the house and the country, that no one whatsoever authorised him to offer or hint at an offer of-office to the hon. and learned gentleman; and had he not been authorised, he could not authorise his noble friend to make such an offer. This prostitution of private documents and confidential words detracted from the honour and dignity of that house, dete riorated the fame and character of public men, was inimical to all feelings of honour and friendship, and tended to re duet memben of parliament, like convicts, to the solitary system. (" Hear," and laughter.) Mr. NAPIER stated that the rumour of the offer of office to Mr. Keogh had reached Lord Derby's ears through himself. He had written to the noble earl, at the request of two gentlemen, to know if there was any truth in the report, and had received from the noble earl an unqualified denial. Mr. BUTT confirmed generally that portion of Mr. Keogh's statement is which he was concerned. Mr. DISRAELI said that the real question was as to the veracity of two members of the house. lie was at a losa to know that there wee any reasons why the late go vernment should not have off red office to Mr. Keogh, and he should neither have been astonished nor displeased if such an offer had been made and accepted As it was, he maintained that the two statements were naturally and reasonably reconcileable, considering the terms of friendship then existing between the two gentlemen, and the circumstance that the administration of Lord Derby was at that time complete, with the exception of one office, which could S not have beta offered to Mr. Keogh. The two gentlemen seemed to have drawn different infc recces from the same words, and that was all. With respect to a course of invective which Mr. Kt ogh was pursuing at the time against himself, and which was supposed to have influenced the gat . ..raiment in atti mpting to conciliate that gentleman, he did not recollect its nature ' but with regard to Mr. Keogh's invective generally, as directed towards himself, he always regarded it a ith admiration, and on the whole with pleasure. lie repeated his belief that the honour of both gentlemen stnod unienpeat bed. Lord J. RUSSELL reviewed the circumstances of the case, declaring that the accusation against Mr. Keogh was swept away and gone for ever, and that the statement of Lord Naas, although in different words, entirely confirmed that of Mr. Keogli. Fur he defied any gentleman, under the circumstances in which Mr. Keogh was placed, to inter from Lord Naas's words anything but an offer of office. lie did not impugn the veracity of either gentleman, but he did think that Lord Naas had not answered Mr. Keogh's letter in a candid manner, or with that honourable conside ration which might have been expected, and which, it 'net cised, would have prevented the necessity of repeating pri vate conversations, or reading private letters. Sir J. PAKINOTON complained of a sarcastic tone which he perceived in Lord J. Russell's speech, and which he compared with the moderate fairness which he conceived to belong to the speech of Mr. Disraeli. With regard to the " reputable " nature of Mr. Keogh's appointment, he attacked his conduct with regard to the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill, as furnishing a ground for Lord Eglinton's expression; and he maintained that this charge had nothing to do with the other question under discussion. _ .... Itlr. KEOCIII, in reply, expressed his satisfaction at the explanations made, and gave all honour to Lord Naas for his share in it. Ile was indignant against Sir John Pakington for his new charge, and expressed himselt wil ling to meet that . or any other that might be brought against him. _ _ - Mr. Whiteside, Lord Henry Bentinck, and Mr. Vance made same further remarks. and the iuhject dropped. SUCCESSION DUTY BILL. . . _ . Oa the order of the day for going into committee on this bill, Sir W. JOLLIFFE said he was sorry to interpose any delay to the Speaker's leaving the chair; but he must take that opportunity of making an appeal to the right hon. gentls man with regard to the mode in which the object of this measure was to to carried out. The CHANCELLthali s he EXCHEQUER said he was very sorry that, in aceordance with what he considered his absolute duty, he must decline to discuss the general bearing and operation of the bill again on that occasion. The house then went into committee. On claw* 1, Mr. MULLINGS said that the holders of heritable bonds in Scotland, who were in precisely the same position as mortgagees in England, would be taxed more lightly than the latter class; he therefore moved an amendment, having for its object the placing of these two classes on an (quality. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the holders of heritable bonds were in a different position from mortgagees in England. The amendment was negatived without a division and the clause agreed to. Upon Clause 2, 31 . r. MILLINGS moved the 0MilISIOT: of the words "pad or future," because he contended that, as it stood, the clause had a retrospective effect. The committee divided— For the amendment 45 Against it The clause was agreed to. On clause 3, which provides that joint tenants taking by survivorship shall be deemed successor., Mr. Henley, Mr. Moline, and Mr. Mulling. raised some objections to the phraseology ; but, after an explanation from the Solicitor-General, the clause was agreed to, as was clause 4. On clause 5, ." Extinction of determinable charges to confer successions;" Mr. CAIRNS Objected to the clause, and urged its post ponement. The committee divided— For the clause l7l Against it lOO-71 The cleave was then agreed to. Clause 6 was then agreed to. On clause 7, Mr. VANSITTART said that the latter part of the clause was so tyrannical that he should more its omission. Viscount GALWAY said that the clause was so important that he should move that the chairman do report progress. After a few words from Colonel SIBTUORP. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that if there was a disposition on the other side not to proceed further with the bill that night, the government would not press the other clauses. The CHAIRMAN then reported progress. SOAP DUTIES. The report on the soap duties was received. SHERIFFS COURTS (SCOTLAND) BILL. The house went into committee on this bill. Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to. Mr. DUNLOP moved the omission of Clause 5, stating that his object in doing so was to substitute for it a clause which would have the effect of placing the trial of cases entirely in the hands of the sheriff principal instead of, in the first instance, in the hands of the sheriff substitute, and to allow no appeal except to the Court of Session. The sheriff principal was, he observed, a barrister of some stand ing, and evidently the beet fitted to pronounce a decision. The gallery was cleared for a division, but in consequence of there being only one teller none tok place. The clause was then agreed to, u were also Climes 6to inclusive. Upon clause 10, Mr. LOCKHART moved that the chairman report pro gress. Clause 17, and also clauses 18 and 19, were then agreed On clause 23, Mr. CRAUFURD aaidj he should move to expunge this clause. He thought the summary jurisoiction should be extended to 264., and that would render the clause unneces sary. After some discussion the clause was agreed to. Clause 27 was Postimpled• On clause 28, Mr. CRAUFURD proposed an amendment that the parties shall be entitled to appear and plead by • procurator of court, but no such procurator shall be entitled to have or recover any sum of money, for so appearing and pleading for any party—unless the debt or damage shall be more than 61. After a abort discussion it was agreed that the Chairman should report progress, and ask leave to sit again. PUBLIC WORKS LOAN BILL. This bill passed through committee. TAXING OFFICER (IRELAND) BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. PARISH VESTRIES BILL. The bill was read a second time. SALE OF LIVINGS. Mr. IL PRlLLlMOlTEoitainedleWito bring in a bill to amend the laws respecting simony, and to render illegal the sale of the neat presentation to any benefice with cure of souls. The house adjourned at half-past one. ELECTION EXPOSURES. LIVERPOOL The evidence of yesterday was of the same tame and interminable nature as to treating that occupied the committee for days preceding, the only new feature of any interest being contained in the evidence of witnessed. Jones and Bromfit to the effect that although they had served warrants upon voters Chapman and Williams to attend be fore the committee, those individuals declined to come, and stated that they did not care for the collective invitation of the Speaker, committee, or House of Commons put together. Evan Jones stated that Mr. W. B. Jones told him to pay the men the usual ss. who voted from his house, and gave hint altogether 261. for that and other matters ; bat the committee, before concluding theproceedings, came to • re solution that the agency of Mr. W. B. Jones was not sell ciently ettablished. PLYMOUTH. FURTH/LB INQUIRY. The select committee appointed to inquire further into alleged corrupt practices at the last Plymouth election met yesterday by adjournment from Monday last. Mr. Alexander, Q.C., opened the procee dings by stating that it was now his duty to inform the committee of the re sult of the investigation carried out by the agent appointed by the Speaker relative to the alleged corrupt practices. They found by Mr. Mare's cheeks upon his bankers he had drawn about 3,0001. for the purposes of the election. That Mr. Braine had expended about 7001., and Mr. Collier about 7001. With regard to Mr. Escott's expenses, as far as they had been enabled to trace them, they were very small indec.l ; but with regard to the expenses of the other candidates, he felt bound to state that the period over which the canvass extended was a very protracted one—about three months, be believed. The learned counsel then pro ceeded to detail some of the more prominent cases of bribery by employment given to voters or their relatives, and some witnesses in support of these statements having been examined, The committee adjourned to this morning. DURHAM ELECTION PETITIONS.—The following mernben have been appointed by the General Committee of Elections on the Durham election petitions : —Right Ron. Sir F. Lewis (chairman), Mr. R P. Collier, Hon. A. Dun can**, Mr. J. R. Phillips, and Mr. Bentinek. SOCIETY FOR PROPAGATING TUE GOSPEL IN Fouston Pneas.—The service in commemoration of the 152nd anniversary of this venerable society was performed yesterday at St. Paul's. The Archbishop of Canterbury, the Bishops of London, Oxford, Salisbury, St. David's, Norwich, Chichester, Bangor, Manchester, St. Asaph's, Quebec, Nova Scotia, Montreal, and several other prelates; besides a great number of lay peers, ladies, and gentlemen, were present. The Lord Mayor and a number of the other civic authorities also attended in state. The choir was con siderably strengthened on the occasion, and every song was sung with the sublime harmonies of Talliv. The 'service" was Kent's, and the anthem was, " Thy word is a lantern unto my feet" (Purcell). Before the sermon the song and chorus, " How beautiful are the feet" (Handel), was finely performed; and the service closed with the Hallelujah chorus. The preacher was the Bishop of Manchester, and his text was from St. John, xii., v. 28. SAMBRE AND MEUSE RAILWAY. —Traffic for the week ending June 12, 1853:-4781. 18s. W. Correspond ing week last year, 2354 19s. Od. Miles open, 1853, 271 ; miles open 1852, 24). glte ervreoo. TO COItItMI'ONDENTS. re,l.?. I. ef " Enytees," containing •he came r•eetrry i.rette,'ie putlithed eeets Tuesday atnt Ynday Kith% tu l; fnr rom. Ivezttrentente Mended few "The Ferrer," Lawton Evenh‘ r p am , inert he •tthe office, 10. Bouverie-etr ee t. by Twn :Mit on y e lay of pub:it:dation. PllOll WATER AT LONDON BILIDOR. T Ate DnE—Mur: mg, 10e. .Afternronn. Inn. 28. T.roaaqw—Moratep. II a. BEn.. Afternoon, I In. J:na. LONDON, FRIDAY; JUNE 17. TIIE news brought by the \Vest India mail Wil -1 bits the Government of Jamaica fairly in a dead luck. Sir CHARLES Gli1:17 had, it will be ru•ollected, re assembled the Legislature in the live that, b% rating the renewal of taxes hitherto annually re imposed from their appropriation or t. xpenditure, the House of Assembly would contribute its share to. wards the carrying on of the ordinary service el Go vernment. But the house, it seems, will mither do that nor anything else, for its members will not meet; the minority in this respect agrees with, or rather adheres to, the determination of the majo rity; and whilst society is being resolved into the primitive elements in Jamaica, neither majority nor minority will hold any intercourse with the (Rta.N's representative. So the Governor, lia:ing no funds to maintain the one or to pay the other, is going to let loose the prisoners out of the gaols and to dia. band the police, and try what effect a little social disorganisation will have on the tem pers and dispositions of his opponents. It is impossible to suppose that the Duke of Nov. CASTLE has not given his attention to this very dis creditable state of things, in the oldest of our trans marine p%sessions. But as yet there is no evidence that he has taken any steps to set matters right. Perhaps, however, in such quarrels the final solution is sooner reached by allowing violence and wrath on either bide to be pushed to such extremities as no rational man can excuse or palliate, and of which all concerned must, after alittle reflection, bo ashamed of. But though this may be the case, and delay in action be hitherto justifiable on such grounds, interference on the part of her Maarsrr's Government is now indispensable; and the real question is of what kind the interference shall be. This is a point of considerable importance to the Duke of NEWCASTLL'S reputation as a Colonial Minister, and of still greater importance to the much more interesting subject of Colonial Govern. ment. His Grace already has advisers in the Government journals, and be will not want colleagues in the Cabinet who will urge him to solve all difficulties by attempting to make fun damental changes in the ancient constitution of Jamaica. Should he, however, yield to these recom. mendations, the Duke of NEWCASTLE will commit his first great blunder, and run against a rock on which Lord MELBOURNE'S Government was newly shipwrecked, and only saved by assistance from the Court. For the question and the quarrel in Jamaica are not in their essence con. stitutional difficulties, but practical disputes as to the payment of salaries and as to general retrench. ment ; requiring skill, tact, manazement, and con cession on the part of the QUEEN'S Representative, which in the long run are sure to beget a sense of moderation and a spirit of justice and right dealing on the part of the dissidents. The form of this quarrel is a very different thing from its essence. That salaries in Jamaica are much can deny. chtoobi o high in that th pointeprese the stateo theisland, pitchedry ve n o os Exe cutive Council does not dissent from the House of Assembly. Nay, it will even agree to their reduction one fifth -the point of ecninnuy required by the popular branch of the Legislature. But it insists on the present occupants of places, the salaries of which have been permanently fixed by acts of the Local Parliament, having compensation for the economy to be practised on them ; and as that would practically defer, if not defeat, the economy, the House of Assembly will not concede the point of compensation. The real question at issue is, therefore, not so much ono even of retrenchment as of the moral obligation in volved in the mode of carrying the proposed retrench. ment out. In the hands of a skilful Governor this question ought never to have arisen. When evil days and ill times overtake a community, all who have cast their fortunes is with it ought to con sent to share, at least to some extent, its reverses and misfortunes. This is the constant practice of of of the unofficial distress cialwo in E world everywhere England even di o n s GEORGE IV. and his Tory Ministers voluntarily sacrificed part of their incomes. It was the part of a wise and true-hearted Governor of Jamaica to have arranged the terms of a compromise of this sort, whereas Sir CHARLES OBEY (exceedingly unpopular on other grounds) has done nothing of the sort ; he has exhibited little desire for retrenchment ; he has not won the esteem or confidence of the people he presides over, and he has taken the extreme part in this question of compensation. The conse quence is, that now things have come to a crisis, be is utterly powerless, and the Duke of NEWCASTLE has no alternative but to recal him. For the Duke of NEWCASTLE-01 two of our con temporaries recommend him—to set about re-model ling the Jamaica constitution, when there are no taxes, and very little government, is absurd and mis chievous. His first duty is to get the existing consti tution at work again ; and though the quarrel at present looks an ugly one, its looks are the worst part of it. There is no disloyalty in the matter; there is no danger of rebellion. At worst the affair is one of obstinacy, ill-temper, pride, and perhaps a design on the pockets of the mother country. The thing, too, has occurred in Jamaica before ; but a new and a superior Governor in Sir CRARLES METCALFE, soon set society and the constitution fairly going again. A similar quarrel broke out not many years ago in British Guiana; but Sir HENRY M'LEon, who went thither from Trinidad, quickly composed the difference, and got the taxes renewed. And in Jamaica, at present, what the colonists chiefly want is, to get rid of a Governor most of whose time is said to be spent in playing picquet with the Commander of the Forces. Indulge them with a new and sensible chief: let him set the example of taking a salary lower than any of his predecessors, and go about honestly and frankly deserving public confidence, and he will be just as successful as either Lord METCALFE or Lord ELGIN was in Jamaica, or as Sir JAMES ANDERSON is in Ceylon. But the Colonial-office has no discretion in supporting Governors; it makes no difference or distinction between success and failure. Every Governor, good or bad, is right ; every colony. wrong. It is impossible for so democratic a House of As• sembly as that of Jamaica to be popular with modern bureaucracy or functionaryism. It is one of enomwELL's sort, and is as sturdy as its origin. Nevertheless for 200 years it has resisted all attacks on its life, and repelled all attempts at its improvement; and it will give the Duke of NEWCASTLE a world of trouble should he wish to abate its power, or take away its privileges. Its jurisdiction, in its own sphere, is greater than that of most other representative bodies. It neither admits any colonial ministry within its walls, nor receives any i