The Express. — London, England, 1853-02-26 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF LORDS.—FIIIDAT, F. 2:4 The Loau CIWICILLOIL took Dis mot ot 5 o'clock. PETITIONS PRESENTED. _ _ PAULI .. PAPERS —BY the Earl of DEADY mai Lor I STANLEY of ALDEILLEY, from ration% pliant, praying fora free iliitribatioa of Parliantenta►y LAW OF EVIDENCE (SCOTLAND) miL.Lcon.- Ri . i•TioN AT ELECTIONS. Lout TIROVU LIAM, in postponing the committee en this bill, said he was disappointed at finding the bill which had become the law in this country, on the su:iject of evi dence, hail not had one effect which he expected to have resulted from it. Ile had hoped a year or two ago that that measure would have had the f Met of preventing cor ruption at elections, bet it had disappointed his especta lions in that respect, for ho believed the. there hail barfly ever beta a gene ral election in this country. at which more bribery and corruption had prevailed than et the hat elee tion—and he might go further, real say that he believed there never had - been so much. (Ileac) But he would fain Lopr still, that when the operation of that Yet was felt enabling and compelling parties to be examiued before election co mmittee., u t . l en its ..peration came home t 3 par ties by at his' I.l3llBilletioll and the results of that exami nation. Le would fain Lope that it would then have a sew tory ettlct in el, !erring from the commissi.ri of the offence •f brit, ry. (Weer, hear.) filch would be its operation nitimet-!v,if not immediately, on the parties tkemselvet and Of, it went.. Another change, how, err, in the law would he t. ca.red to give full (Beet ti that measure, end that would h.• the adoption of a provisi eontsincd in the new es idenee WI which he had brou.fht in before the last recess, and which was then upon the table of the house. Oue of t 1,7 tn-..t import ant provisions of that bill would compel t., answer questions, although such answer might tend to criminate themselves; not rnablirg any one to ige of it be any 'proceeding, I•;causo the party a. a:4 he protected from his self-crienination in all procued.nes except an indictment for perjury. That prin ciple would, more than any otber, prevent corruptiot. at elections, and he felt convinced that it would he right not to allow any man to object to answer a question on the ground of self-recrimination. AFFAIRS OF INDIA. The Ent' of ELLEN BOILOCOIL rose to present a peti tion of the Madras Native Association and of others repre senting the grievances under which they laboured in con nexion with the expiration of the East India Company's charter. Ile hoped their lordships and the other house of parliament would some have the subj ct brought formally under their attention. The petitioners stated that their grievances arose principally from excessive taxation and from the inefficient and expensive nature of the company's' alerts of law ; that their chief wants were the construction of b , Iter road., a better provision for the education of the peer:, ; and th. y also desired a reduction of the puf , lie. ex penditure, and the establishment of a local govern ment more generally conducive to the welfare nad happiness of the people. The petition appeared, as far as ho could judge. really to proceed from persons of great respectability in the Madras territory, and it was signed t. y from three to four thousand persons. There was another petition to be sent from Bombay bat it appeared to him that the gentlemen of II =hay were rather late in the field. They knew that the legislature were about to consider the Indian question, and they ought to have presented their p.tition cre this. He was, however, most anxious that her Majesty's government should comet. the conclusion that it would be expedient to prolong by a continuing set the present state of things for one or two years. (I bear.) The present government were yet new in office. The right hon. gentleman at the head of the Board of Control knew nothing almut the government of India. It was no reproach ; in the present state of things it must be so. He (Lord Ellenboroogh) would not venture to say that the radical elements which, for the first time, had been introduced into her Majesty's government gave him any girt it c , ,olidenee in the ministry; but he would say that he had much better hopes for India from the present govern meat than he had had from tho late government, or from the ministry which preceded it. He could not but think that the people of this country were beginning, for the first time, to look to the great question of a reformed govern ment in India. The more that question engrossed the public mind, the better chance was there that parliament would come to a just decision. All he asked was, now that the house had heard the petitioners' statement, now that they knew the result of the present strange mode of electing persons who were to govern India, that they should take time to consider, and that then a fit constituency should be appointed, by whom persons of respectability might be selected, upon whose advice the minister Mr India might set, and who should be able to command the respect both of the government at home and in India. Hsi was satisfied that this would be the best means of remedying the evils of whi7h the petitioners complained. The best tape fur the future was not by committees of our own legis lature endeavouring to master details which it was impos sible for them to do, but by reforming the mode of savers log our Indian empire. In conclusion, he would ask whe ther it was the intention of her Majesty's government to proceed with any bill for regulating the future government of India dining the Decent session ? The Earl of ABERDEEN said that the question pot by his noble friend related to a subject which had fully engaged the consideration of her Majesty's government. After much toneiderat ion the iniiiietry had come to the opinion that it was their duty to propose a measure for the future, go vernment of India without further delay, and he, therefore, could nut concur with the view of Lis noble friend upon that head. He (Lord Aberdeen) would not at that moment say for how long a period the government which the mi• nistry might propose should endure, nor was he prepared at that time to go into the whole of the question opened by the noble earl. But he might say this much, that the form of government which he and his colleagues would propose would be a modification of the present system. Many of the subjects adverted to in the petition presented by the noble earl seemed to be more fitted for the consideration of the local eovernment than of their lordships' house. (Hear, bear.) But such of them as seemed to require it would have the earnest consideration of her Msjesty's present ad visers. . _ The Duke of ARGYLE called the attention of the house to • few points of that petition to which the noble earl had not adverted, but which he (the Duke of Argyle) thought w..irthy of consideration. The noble earl Dad only drawn the attention of the house to those parts of the petition which suited his purpose. A great many of the heads of the petition related to matters of internal concern ; these might have well been brought under the no tice of the house before this time. They were not immediately dependent upon any question of a chants in the form of government of India. It certainly struck him that these matters were only now brought forward because of the question as to Indian go verament now impending. Thus the question of making roads was entered upon, and the petitioners said that money Jug been drawn out of their country to support t h; present system of government, although they were withoti! reads, and the money ought to have been purposes of India. This hardly applied to the inicrlial seemed to him the langzege of loyal and affecte d sub jects. There were other statesman* ot the petition deserv ing consideration particularly with regard to the church eetabliskineht It Lad been the desire of the Christian ppulatiest and of the army that some little addition should be made to the number of the Christian churches provided for the murices of the Christian residents. What were the terms of these petitioners upon that point? They insisted upon the Injustice of the people of that country being obliged to support • couple of foreign establishments for the accommodation of foreigners ; that was net the way in which the Christian religion ought to be 'Token of by Bri tish subjects addressing their lordships' house. Amongst other demands, they desire that the College of Halley**, should be abolished; so that the money drawn irons the revenues of the country might be wholly within it. They asked that whatever edu cation t be necessary to prepare men for Lathan ser vice sb be obtainable in India alone, and that monies drawn him Wien revenue should not be spent in support of Europese ablation in this country. A request so mon strous had aims bets', been made in that house. After many other eassests into which he would not enter, they ended (sad M ibis th . e noble earl opposite did advert) by asking a estraisslen to inquire into all their grievances, and that, in the meantime, no legislation should take place, but ~„la be continued f - that Oa to year, pei r- nepe some new agitation Could be got up that ' imuntly. He certainly thought matters ought not be MI is this unsettled state. The noble earl (Lord MIllt4M1140) had said that, considering certain radical elements is her Majesty's government, he could not give the ministry his entire confidence ; but, nevertheless, he had mese baps for India from the present than the two governments. The reason of this was, that in M l : s attlegalde India, the noble earl himself was a most determined radical indeed, clue of the most determined in this country. He hoped that the noble earl would not con sider that, because, he (the Duke of Argyle) had sat upon the committee of their lordships' house upon Indian nutters, that be considered himself equal to discus Indian matters with the noble earl, who had devoted so large a portion of his time to the subject. He would, however, venture to u that he thought it better not to keep India hi ally state, which would oily leave room for hinisk melees agitation. Tbe Earl of ELLEMBOROUGH said that, with refer ees. tea* objection made by the Duke of Argyle,that he had sot mentioned every head in Os petition. he would ramind the house that tbe petition maligned bety-one eissely praised papers. It weal& Mho_ tbsjpe been to weed it through—bard radio' laced Mastfies matter is every line of it. It bad only bees Ids MM ie ct the bases in pessessioa of that which was m ss t, and it was perfectly pseable that he might time emlMed 101118 Misr of imperiases. The noble duce had called MINIM. te= is the petition; he (Lord Ellsablansgb) to the Dense that it was the Lepage el miseelat satires of India. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE themett this was not the proper time to enter into a dieimmils upon the whole circle of ladies affairs. He meat say, however, that the speech of the noble duke led him to think that some delay ought to take place upon the matter. There was before the house, in addition to that now presented, • petition of East India stockholders finding fault with the government of India ; altogether, in feet, the subject was of the utmost importance, and deserved the meet serious attention. Lord CAMPBELL wished to say one word upon a topic which had been adverted to, the administration of justice ran India. For some years he bad sat upon the Judicial Com mittee of the Privy Council, to which appeals from the Indian courts were referred, arid it seemed to hiss that justice wail most ably administered in that country. Many f their judges—he might instance Justice Bealc—would be • honour to any bench . In fact, he found himself in a most equivocal ration, for, as judge in appeal, he had to decide, not having w clear en acquaintance with the facts a , the court of the fir,t instance. The noble duke (the Duke of Argyle) hid four..l fault with the words of the pe• tition ; hut he did not see anything to object te. The path bow ri were deactioing what they htlieved to be grievances, and they could not be espected to be mealy-mouthed in n& a mater. (Ilear, hear.) The Est.! of ELLENDOROUGH then moved that the petition be referred to the committee. The motion was agreed to, and the house ad j ourned at 25 minutes past 6 o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAT, FEB. 25. Thu SPLAILLA took the chair at the usual hour. PRIVATE BUSINESS . SECOND ILEADlNO.—Bradford Corporation Warerwiwks, PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. C11111.'71(10 Bout.—By Mr. 0. THOMPSON, from Aberdeen, and Mr. T. DU:44.OMM from Wareham, prsying that letter carriers m ight _ be permitted to reeeise. Yost•liouse Duty . — By Mr. T. BUNCOMBE, from Clerkeuwell, against. PADUA • Paer.its —By Sir F. BARING, from Portsmouth; Mr. G. 11. VIVI AN, from tho Royal Insti tution of South Wales, and front the Literary' Society of Working Men at Swansea; Mr. MEAGIIEIt, from the Mechanics' Institute at Waterford; Lord EUSTON, from the Mechanise Institute of Thetford; for disttioution of. RAILNY Vl9.—By Mr. S. MERIII:RT, from Salisbury, nraying that no railway e.•mpany be allowed to construct competior line. which bad not con tructed the lims for which they had already obtained p were. INCOME TAX.—By Mr. FRESIIFIELD, from the Legal and General Insurance Company, praying that the income tat may be mewed on the profiieof terminable annuities. Clteier PAL 10E.—By Mr. HALSEY', from a place in Rerefeird.nire Mr. GODDARD, from Wiltibire ; Mr. DUI'REE, item Wingruse; against the opening of on the Sabbath. _ _ _ JEWISH DISATILITIES.—By Mr. DEEDES, from Kent; Lord 110 IMAM, from a place in Yorkshire; Mr. CARTER, from a place in Ifni kshire ; Mr. HALSEY, from places in Herefordshire ; Mr. FIT7.Oe;RALD, from Hereford; and Mr. R. PALMER, from Reading; Mr. BUCK, from Devon ; Mr. NOEL, from Rutland ; Lord A. VANE, from Durham; Mr. C. HAND CRY, from Hereford; Mr. BEN TINCK, from Norfolk; Mr. M. SMITH, from West Kent; against the admia-ion of Jews to parliament. LoNnox Uxivanstrr.—By Mr.COBDEN, from Thorne, in Yorkshire; Mr. LOWE, from Kidderminster; Mr. HEYWOOD, from the College of Preeepsors, front the inhabitants of K.ngsuonl, Hampshire, and from New Col lege, London; Mr. M•MAHON, from the superiors of St. liamund's College, Ware ; for the enfrancbbement of. lamas Arrant/I.—By Mr. COBDEN, from the pro prietors of India Stick, complaining of grievances. ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES BILL.—By Mr. M. SMITH, from East larkigh, praying that the provisions of the Eccle siastical Titles Bill may be carried into effect. Larrza Csitutzus.—By Mr. BASS, from the letter car riers of Derby; Sir J. BAILEY, one from Brecon, and one from Hay ; In favour of. T•IATII• N OP PERPETCAL ANNUITIES.—By Mr. BASS, from the chairman and directors of the National Guardian Assurance Company, fur a more equitable taxation of per petual annuities. CONSOLIDATED ANNCITIES.—By CoI.GHEVILLE, from the Chairman of the Board of Guardians of the Granard Union, Longford, praying fer a remission of. Roma"( CATUOLICS IN lILILAND.—By Mr. HAMILTON, from inhabitants of the parish of Errgk Portelere, diocese of Clogber, c 'captaining of the conduct of the Roman catho lies in Ireland at the late elections, and of the education at Maynooth, and praying that relief may be afforded. SHERIFFS' COVIITS OE SCOTLAND.—By Sir H. J. DAVIE•I, from Haddington, for an amendment of. GUINTINO or PII.OBATE OF WILLS.—By Mr. GREEN ALL, from the mayor, aldermen, and burgesses of the bo rough of Warrington, for an alteration in the laws affecting the granting of probates of wills Lad letters of adminis tration. LOUD. or IRELAND.—By Mr. GROGAN, tram Lord W. Fitzgerald, expressing his regret that the office of Lord• Lieutenant of Ireland should be maintained, and praying that, as its continuance had been determined on, it shogld not be any lerger a mark of degradation to a large class of her Majesty's subjects, but that -Raman ca• tholies should be Migiale to fill the office.____ _ _ MAYSOO7II GRANT.--By Mr. STIRLING, from the mi nutes and congregatioas of the free church of L9cheorn head ; Mr. M. SMITH, from Rut Farleigh, in West Kent; Sir G. MONTGOMERY, from the congregation of the free church, Kirling, in Pesblesshire ; for the repeat of. SUlVirf OF SCOTLAND.—By Zia H. J. DAVIES, from North Berwick, In favour of a &inch survey of Scotland. NEW MEMBER. Mr. COGAN took the oaths and his seat for Kildare. WATEItFOILD ELECTION. Sir J. TROLEOFE;tatedtWaili; had received a letter from Col. P. Harcourt, who had bees appointed one of the members to try the merits of the petition complaining of the return for the County of Waterford, informing him that his brother, Col. 11. Iliirceurt, had died, and requesting to be *sensed trom attending the committee in consequence. He begged, therefore, to move that the attendance of Col. Harcourt be dispensed with, and t►at the said committee be discharged, and the appointment of another be referred to the committee of selection.—Agreed to. CAMBRIDGE AND FROME ELECTION PETITIONS. The members appointed to investigate the merits of these petitions were sworn at the table. RETURNS ORDERED. On the motion of Lord I). 171;:iiiitirfollowing return was ordered : —Return of the quantities and declared value of the different articles, being the manufacture:of Great Bri tain and Ireland, exported to Turkey in 1851; similar return with regard to Russia; and similar return with regard to Austria (in continuation of parliamentary paper, No. 273, of session 1852.) On the motion of Mr. DEOTHERTON the following return was ordered :—Return of the number of petitions presented in each of the five years ending 1788.9, 1804-6, 1814-16, showing the average of each period of five years; also, of the number of petitions presented and printed in each of the five years ending 1832, and the average of the period : Of the number of petitions presented and printed in each of the five years ending 1837, 1842, 1847, and 1852, with the total number of signatures in each year, showing the average number of petitions presented and printed, and sig natures, for each period of five years : Abstracts of the sums paid for printing, folding, dm., of petitions printed in each of the five years ending 1832, showing the total and the average expense : And, of the sums paid for printing, fold ing, &c., reports, and appendixes and indexes to reports, on public petitions, from 1833 to 1852 inclusive, showing the total sad average expense of each period of five years. On the motion of Mr. AtcocL the following return was ordered :—Return of all guano imported into the United Kingdom, in the years 1861 and 18.52; distiniguishing the quantities imported from each country respectively. IRISH FAIRS AND MARKETS. [,!,,,,P17 to r. states that the report of the commis sioners for inquiring into the state of the fairs and markets of Ireland was concluded, and as soon as it was ready it would be laid on the table. THE JIPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 26, 1853. rants were first issued by Lord Howick, and after wards increased by himself (Mr. Sidney Herbert) in 1845, the sergeants were not participators. Now be confessed he did not think that the sergeants had any right to share, inasmuch as those warrants were given as compensation for additional pay, which they had never received. When, however, the second change took place in the good conduct pay, the advantage had so ineressed to the men that he thought the sergeants had some claim. There was no body of men to whom the army was more indebted, both in the formation of regiments and in the maintenaace of discipline ; and he believed no army had a aces efficient body of them than that of this country. It bad, therefore, been agreed that 2,0001. should be annually set apart for the non-commissioned officers ; and to that sum he proposed that they should add this year 2501. In the half-pay of general officers, and the reduced half pay to the widows of foreign officers, there war, he was happy to ray, as there bad always been, a very considerable diminution ; but it was not so large this year as usual. There was an increase, too, of 8,997/. for out-pensioners at Chelsea, for which it was very difficult to account. These were the principal heads of difference between the estimates of this and last year. Ilia right hon. friend the First Lord of the Admiralty pointed out the other night in moving the navy estimates, how great bad been the diminution of charge for which they were able to maintain a much larger and efficient force; but he (Mr. S. Herbert) was happy to say that that was nut peculiar to the navy. Indeed he believed that the same thing had taken place in the army to an even greater extent. It must bo recollected that the War-office bad been occupied for a long series of years by some most sagacious administrators. Sir H. Par nell, Lord llowicic, Sir John llobhouse, Lord Hardinge, and Lord Panmure, had followed each other with great success in increasing the comforts of the soldier, and at the same time reducing his cost. Now, the year 1835 had been taken as the pattern year; arid in that year the whole estimates amounted to 5,907,782?. This year the% were 6,02.1,016'., being an apparent increase of 1160001. odd. But from the latter sum they ought to deduct all those items which since 1835 had been added to the estimates. He found there had been ad ditional items since then amounting to something like 2.10,000/., and therefore if that were taken off they would really have a reduction of 137,266/. upon 1835. (Cheers.) Well, but with this sum they were maintaining 21,000 nun more than in 1835. (Cheers.) The increase had been principally upon the non-effective portion of the estimates. They had first 35,0001. postage, then for additions to the black pensioners 12,0001.; and, thirdly, for the organ isation of pensioners, 4.1,0001. They had also given up the poundage to Chelsea pensioners, 60,0001.; and if they took off all those items for schools, the new prison system, and regimental libraries, they would come to the same result, namely that they were maintaining 21,000 more men for a less awn than they spent in 1835. Now, this had not Seen caused by reduction of half-pay ; hut while the cost per bayonet in 1835, the cost of emit man fed, clothed, armed, equipped, and commanded, was-121. 15s. lid., the cost last year was 40/. 3s. 6.1. ; the cost for meu, exclusive of the officer; being very little more than 361. a year. (Cheers) At the same time he (Mr. S. Herbert) did not believe that there had ever been a period when the soldier had been so well off as at the present moment. (Hear, hear.) His noble friend had said that the service was popular, and, indeed, swing either to the short service, the increased comforts, or the diminution of punishments, though the recruiting had been carried on in the face of the enlistment of a militia force of 50,003 men, recruiting had never been more easy, or from a better class. (Renewed cheen.) The stoppages for rations had been lowered. It bad been a source of complaint that these had been too high in stations where provisions were notoriously cheap, and though the principle was right that the stoppages should be high, yet that had been too much the case, and they had been lowered, to the great satisfaction of the men. The good conduct pay had been increased 6-1,000/. a year ; and hay rack libraries hail been established. This last was, he be lieved, a most useful measure. (Hear, hear.) Thu first had been opened in 1840 ; and there were now 150 such libraries, with 16,040 subscribers and 117,000 volumes. (Cheers.) By a late arrangement the officers had been allowed to use these libraries, but care had been taken that they should not interfere with the privileges of the men. The subscrip tion of the latter was one penny per month, lend the officers gave up one day's pay per quarter. Like the men, they were permitted to take books to their quarters, but they were not allowed to keep them for any longer time. (Hear.) The schools were established by himself in 1846 ; but be owed a great deal to Lord Panmure, for it was a very much easier matter to write down a plan on paper than to carry it into effect. (Hear, hear.) When the sys•em of training schools was established, it met with great opposi tion ; but, by steady perseverance all those objections had been removed, and there was now the greatest anxiety to secure trained schoolmasters. (Cheers.) There had been a large school at Chelsea for the orphans of soldiers, and it had formerly been conducted entirely by non-commissioned officers ; but it was extremely behind the standard which ought to prevail at such an establishment. The first step was to put the boys' school entirely upon a new founda tion ; and a training school was founded, in order to raise a number of good regimental masters. The non-commis sioned officers who came to be instructed were practised upon the boys in the Chelsea School, and they had now a very large number of masters who had passed through that probation, and were now engaged in teaching. They had 53 masters and 16 assistant-masters engaged in teaching the children, as well as non-commissioned officers and privates. He would now read a short statement upon the result of that system: " There are now employed with dif ferent corps 38 masters, and two on sick leave, and 16 assistant-masters. They teach both the children and the nun-commissioned officers and privates; and all the reports, as well from commanding officers as from the Inspector- General, describe their labours as very beneficial. Indeed, wherever the commanding officer gives his countenance to the arrangement, the men attend school in such numbers as test the physical as well as the intellectual powers of the masters severely. la the 77th regiment, for example, now quartered at Weedon, the school roll shows au attendance of not fewer than 538 adults. The 35th regiment send 371 to school, the 82nd regiment 270. Indeed, the lowest at tendance in the infantry, that of the 69th depot, does not fall short of 61. It is worthy of remark that, except in the ease of recruits, all this attendance is voluntary. And it is all paid for. The recruits are required by regulation to attend till dismissed drill. For a time they not un freqnently lay aside school with drill; but in almost every instance those who have made even moderato progress come back after an interval of a few months. (Cheers.) He had the greatest confidence that the new system would contribute to that increase of good conduct which had been so remarkable throughout all rank*. He had in his hand a return of the depositors to the savings banks. These banks were established in 1844, to which year there were 890 depositors, and the amount was 14,8091. ; in 1852 there were 9,447 depositors, and the amount was 111,9201. (Cheers.) Some years ago great fears were entertained lest the care which was taken of the soldier, maths facilities given him, would lead to a relaxa tion in the state of discipline. Now they had had a great diminution of punishment. The number of corporal punish ments—he did not speak of the number of lashes, which were limited now to 60 so that those dreadful punish ments that used to take place could not now occur—in 1838, was 879. He would read a few of the subsequent returns: 1843, 620; 1846, 461 ; 1849, 311; 1850, 247 ; and 1861, 206. Last year they bad only returns from the forces at home and part of the troops abroad; in fact, from about three - fourths of the whole force ; and the number of punish ments had only been 96. (Cheers.) Of course there had been an increase in the other military punishments, such, for example, as confinement in military prisons ; but he would read to them a return of the number of sentences to impri sonment. In 1838 they were one in and in 1852 they In had diminished to one l6. But he would give them the actual numbers. In 1850 there were 3,665 prisoners ; in 18.51, 3,266; and in 1862, 3,313. This last seemed a slight increase, but it woe covered by the increase in the number of men. He believed that the military prison system an swered exceedingly well. It was conducted upon a plan very different from the civil prisons, for it must be recol lected that every day the punishment of a soldier was pro ' traeted they were in fact punishing his well behaved comrades. (Hear, hear.) The diet was there , fore lower than that of the civil prisons, but the health of the prisoners had not been found to safer. Indeed I the drunkards, who formed a great proportion of the of fenders, usually came out of prison in a much better state of health than they went in. The discipline, he should think, must be almost heartbreaking, for it consisted in 'piling shot at the word of command, a labour that did not Wad to any earthly result. There was one other point to which he wished to call the attention of the committee— the health, namely, of the army. He believed that at no former period had the army ever been so healthy. In Melts, Gibraltar, the lonian Islands, and the Mediterra ' noon, the mortality had been 17 and 7-10ths in the 1,000 for the average of 30 years previous to 1846, but last year it was 12 and 7-10ths. In the American colonies the mor tality in Bermuda had been 14 in the 1 000, the average of the previous years being 16 in the 1,000 • and 14 being ea high a state of health es in Gieat Britain. In the Cape of Good Hope the mortality had been, exclusive of the war, 24 in the thousand—a mush lower rate than that of the French army in Algeria. In New Zealand the rate bed been 12, Vast Diemen 's Land 9, and New South Wales 6in the thousand. In the West India Islands (exclusive of Jamaica) it was 22. In Jamaica it was 44. The yellow fever had broken out at Barba/loft and made great ravages, but contrary to every precedent it had raged niers amongst the civilians than the army, and mon =4 the office than the privates. The whole officers than however, had not reached 6 per cent. At Hong Hoag, the most unhealthful of all the stations, there was also a dimiaution. The mounts from India, re solved that day, showed that the troops at Rangoon were not suffering in health, for the mortality there had been under 4 per cent. This was in part the result of improved medical treatment, but also in a great measure of improved habits of the men, and a decrease in the habit of drinking. We had now to look to increase the efficiency of our arty la the field. Hitherto they had been too much used es a police force, and scattered about in single regiments. The same had been the case in the colonies, and this was fatale* their efficiency in field se:vice. When the regiments cams beam that were expected, they must be more concentrated. (Hear, hear.) It was proposed in these estimates to take a small sum for a station fur ball practice with Minis rifles, where the men might be in structed by officers who had acquired the practice. In the summer it was proposed to have an encampment in some part of the country, where the troops might assemble for in struction. This would occasion little more expense than the ordinary change of quarters. Lord Hardinge had taken the greatest pains to secure for his troops the best descriptions of arms; he had sent to America to procure the best pieces, and experiments were making with a view to improve them, so as to produce a piece lighter than the Minix rifle and more effective. (Hear.) It was hoped that our army wouls‘thas become as effective at possible. no NORWICH PETITION. Mr. F. MACH:EWlllWrshecrici Vllow what steps the bon. member for Finsbury meant to take with this petition, which contained charges involving the character of a gen- UNE4II. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that if the house bad allowed him to have his own way yesterday it would not now have found itself in the ridiculous and absurd predicament in which it stood. (" lieu, hear," and laughter.) Serious charges had been made, and there was no way of inquir ing into them. (Hear, bear.) As to referring it to the committee of the hon. member fee Surrey, that would be quite idle, for that committee had yet no existence—it was at pretest as subsbirs. Ile believed that the wry party had been very badly treated by the wry party in that house. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) He believed that Mr. Brown bad no authority for withdrawing the petition, and that a fraud had been committed on the house. But the Speaker had decided that a fraud was no breach of the privileges of the house. (Laughter.) He, however, was ready to proceed with the inquiry, and ar thin Pus. Pe es he 1 -4 to give _notice that Le would on Monday mwe t h at tas p ;,...." 6 na PO rosined to a committee of In quiry- (Rear, hm.) PUBLIC BUSINESS. Lord J. RUSSELL informed the house that he would proceed with the Ordnance estimates m Monday, and with the Clergy Reserves Bill on Friday. SUPPLY.—ARMY ESTIMATES. On the motion for going into Committee of Supply on the Army estimates, Sir DE L. EVANS in answer to a remark made by Col. North that be (Sir De Lacy Evans) had in a previous discussion stated that only 15,000 men could be spared from the French army for the purpose of en Weeds., explained that what be had really said was that eandibent with the maintenance of the scrotal French guidons, Frames had not, at present, a larger amount of diagmeable ems. Mr. RICH then brought under the sedge of the brae, the expediency of gradually inonesing the siselese and efficiency of the reserve force of pears bellielleso, with out detriment to our establieW militia 111111 regular forces. What he proposed was that the MOWS should commence after ten years' Navies (so is the Excise, Customs, and other girememeat degsrlinents), the amount of course being in pengsetka tithe number of years served ; and that all eddies aseeldsg their discharge with the pension should, if abie-bedie4 Weaselled. In • very few yews this would give es wary of reserve of 130,000 men. In addition to an arely of memo at boa% the plan he proposed would provide eillient means of de fence for our colonise, for there could be Ms doubt that large numbers of these men, after their discharge on the short service, or lowest amount of pension, would be but too happy to volunteer as soldier colonists. Mr. S. HERBERT had listened to the statement of his hon. friend on a subject which deserved attention, namely, the advantage which would result from a different system for the organisation of pensioners for the army. He had heard the same arguments from his hon. friend during the discussion on the Militia Bill, and it appeared to him then that there was not security for the obtaining of a reserved force by means of pensioners from the ten-years' service, even as there would be from the militia. But he con fessed that in consequence of the very proper measure with regard to enlistment which was introduced by Lord Panmure, it would be necessary ere long to adopt some measure for the organisation of soldiers who bad left the army. He did not think the effect produced by short ser vice pensions could be so great as was supposed by his hon. friend, for when the short service system was introduced by Lord Ilardinge, by ISO means SO May men availed them selves of it as was expected, and the hews would he sur prised to hear bow few had availed themselves of it. lie (Mr. Herbert) thought it possible that when the ten years' service men's time expired, instead of retiring, many of them would continue in the army. He did eat say this was a reason against an alteration in some form, such as hos been suggested by hiv hon. friend; because it was a sound principle that there should not be a bealy of men trained to arms, spread over the country without there being some hold upon them. Whether that should be done by means of deferred pensions, or by small pensions after ten years' service, were questions of detail, which could only be decided on after some experience and ecnsideration. Commanding officers were always unwilling to lose the ten year service men, as they contributed greatly to keeping up the spirit and discipline of a regimeat. (Hear.) But when those men did retire it would be well to have tome hold upon them, so that their services might be se cured if necessary, and that would also have the effect of encouraging them to renew their term of service. The question was one so worthy of consider Awn os to justify his hon. friend in bringing it forward, and he could assure him it should receive tho consideration of the Miitary -- - THE BURMESE WAR. Sir 11. WILLOUGHBY rose to move for an addreu for copies or extracts of communications which may have passed in reference to hostilities in Ave, and in re lation to the annexation of any portion of the Burmah territory to the British empire in the cut. Ile wished to direct attention to a few circumstances con nected with the Burmese war u they were mad, to appear in the documents now on the table or the house, which brought the accounts down to March, 16.52. lie should not have pressed the matter if he had not felt tin.. the whole question of peace and war in India ought to be corsidered by parliament. In other cues of wars there was in parliament a respons:hle minister to go to, but in India there was no check on the exercise of that power of going 0. war. It was a question whether this war might not have been avoided, and it was also a question whether the British government intended to carry it on. There had been too much of going to war in India, and the contequences, as in the case of Afghanistan, had been serious to the finances of India. In 182 i there was a war with Burmah, which bad damaged the finances of ludia to the exteet of ten or twelve millions; and with great diffieutty wu got back a million from the King of Ara, which was paid in very doubtful money, and certainly not much was gained on the whole. Ile wished to call attention to the origin of the pre sent war in Burmah. It arose in 18.51 in consequence of wrong done to the owners of two ships, and he belayed so far there was a good foundation for it. But he should like to ask the noble lord (.1. Rowell) wbeth.a there was any &fluke policy laid down to induce the Governor-General to take the course he did. The policy began on a demand for 10,000 rupees, or under 1,0001., and it changed into the an nexation of the greater part of the Burmese empire. With regard to the military operations he did not believe that at home we had sufficient data to form an opinion upon them ; but it was clear there had been a great vacilla tion in policy. Ile thought the war had not originated with the Gdvernor•General, but in the hasty acts of Commodore Lambert in seising the Burmese ship, after which diploma tic negotiations were at as end. Sir C. WOOD did not think that the house would be of opinion that this was a coneenient opportunity for discuss i the latter part of the hon. gentleman's observations as to the responsibility on the question of peace and war in India. After a careful review of the instructions sent nut by his (Sir C. Wood's) predecessor, he must say that he entirely concurred in them. But the house would be in • better condition to discuss this question when the papers were before them, which they would be in three or four da l . . HUME said that if the right hon. gentleman con sented to grant the papers, he (Mr. Hume) agreed that the present was not a convenient occasion for the discussion. But as regarded the praise and sanction given to this war, be was of so uifferent an opinion on the subject, that ho could not let tho opportunity pass without expressing it. As far as his impression went the war might have been avoided, and Commodore Lambert was the cause of it. He considered that the Court of Directors ought not to be dis- pensed with, but they were not made acquainted with what was going on, and in fact the whole of India was governed by two individuals, the chairman sad deputy, and they wero not allowed to divulge the facts which came to their knowledge. Sir J. W. HOGG said he thought it would have been better to have postponed all discussion on this subject till the papers had been laid before the house. Ile cone 2ived that this was not a proper time for discussing the constitu tion of the Board of Directors, or the powers of the Board of Control. At present the discussiocs seemed to be limited to the reason for the Burmese war, which was the last question he expected would have been then discussed. He might have expected various questions as to the mode and manner of carrying on that war ; but to hear the justice of the war questioned by members who had had an opportunity of reading the papers already on the table of the house, aroused his astonishment. It had been said that the propriety of this war had been censured by three governments—by the government at which the noble lord (Lord John Hassell) was at the head, by the govern ment presided over by Lord Derby, and by the present go vernment. But with all respect to those three governments, there was an authority which was greater than any of them, and that was the authority of that illustrious man (the Helmet Wellington), who was now no more. A memorandum, written three weeks before his death, was read in the House of Lords last night, in which the noble duke, after having had all the papers before him, said, " It appears to me that this war could not have been avoided, that the operations I fixed upon were judicious, and that they have been carried into execution with great gallantry by the officers and by the troops." After such testimony, it appeared useless for him to occupy the house further on the subject. He was happy to say, with regard to Lord Dalhousie, that they were not to be deprived of his valuable services. The Court of Directors had asked him to prolong his term of office beyond the usual term of five years ; and though private reasons might have induced him not to consent, he had consented; and he hoped we should long continue to have the services of that distinguished man. The subject then dropped. Sir N. JOLLIFFE then called attention to the quality of the bread supplied to her Majesty's forces in Great Britain, under the government contracts. The quality of bread used by all classes was now of a much superior description to what it was formerly, but owing to the low price at which these contracts were taken, the bread was of an in ferior quality, and unless the soldiers were willing to pay more to the contractors, the bread supplied to them would be of a very interior quality. Mr. 8. HERBERT said the subject bad been under the ' consideration of the committee on the ordnance and army estimates, who had decided that in future the quality of bread should be that called " seconds." The system in Ireland was the commissariat, in England the ordnance con tract system, and in the Guards the system of regimental contracts. The commissariat was the most expensive ; and the regimental that which gave most satisfaction to the men individualli; but in the cam of a disturbance or war woes,' cress down, because then they would require an amount of organisation which it would not supply. When all the regiment were together it was cheap, but where two or three companies were detached to a village, they would raise the pries of provisions, and their stoppages might be increased by a penn a day. The raensiiirariat system bad been abandoned in Ir elan d; but Vie regimental contracts would continue for sir months longer, after which it would be necessary to decide oa the system to be permanently adopted. It was of course of great importance that the quality of the bread should be Food. The sort used had been brown bread, but there existed • prejudice—an un founded one, by the bye—in favour of white. THE ARMY ESTIMATES. The house then went into committee of supp Mr. 8. HERBERT said that in moving the estimates for her Majesty's forces for the ensuing year, he should, per ha be best consulting the 001111111111111011 of the committee by • from going into any lengthened statement with respect to the number of' men which it was proposed to maintain. On the first night of the session, the noble lord (Lord John Russell) expressed the intention of the government not to move for any in creaseof men for the army, navy, and ordnance establish ' mint; over thou settled by the late government; and, as that aultaan t easaz: seemed to be received with general acquiescence and satisfaction by the house, It would be use lessly taking up tins if he were to enter into the reasons which bad induced them to adopt that resolution. When he said that there were no changes, he did not mean to say there were to be positively no alterations, became there would be a alight human mused by the cavalry which had come bask from India. Of these there were about 200 or 800 men, and that would make a difference uot s s sates of 1,7001. He would now mention the changes which it waspdi to make upon the estimates of t year. Upon evils there was • small ammentatioa for the maintesemse of the UM returned from service in India ; sad there well aim be land alterations resulting partly front then sodestioes is the staff which the vigi lance of the War-oldie bad always endeavoured to effect ; and partly, likewise, from changes in the manses el plebg certain charges upon the estimates. Per inollemen the white deluge of the Tower had been treselerred to the hag for the reward of distin guished amylase. Ia 1834.5 there was a recom mendation of the ememittee en army and navy =nets that all the hips of garrisons the Moe be and the proceeds of them &mid be est awe es teem a to distrroute re wards amongst afters whose length of service might entitle them to be aimed for that purpose. That was to be continued until the fuad should reach 18,0001., which sum would be completed by the addition to it of the Tower. In the meanwhile it would be necessary to replace it upon the votes, by • charge for a small and effective staff which should perform Uncut& the duty of the Tower garrison. The reductions under the head of foreign staff would show some diminution in the number of °Moue. There was an increase of 5,3091. for postage rendered necessary by the great in crease of business with Australia, Bermuda, Canada, and I almost universally with the colonies. The vote for the public department was almost in the same state as last year; , but there was an augmentation of 5,9001., arising in great measure from the large increase of business occasioned by the militia. This, he was afraid, would require revision, t but the subject was already under the consideration of the l Treasury ; and he feared that the diminution of 6,7101. , on the Staff would be converted into an augmentation. • ender the other heads there were no changes of any great importance. There was a small addition to the l volunteer force ; and the vote for asylums would also t require • small augmentation. There would be an s increase for the purpose of paying schoolmasters for - lectures on fortification ; and there was one other addition . under that head to which he would call the attention of the r committee. It would be recollected that there had been • oomplaints in that house that when the good maduct war public had a right to expect this from a service to which bey contributed so largely. It would always be his endea vour to keep down the expense ; and he hoped they would soon see the British army in a greater state of efficiency than ever. He would now place in the hands of the chair man the first vote for 102,283 men. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HI: ME said he approved of the amendments pro posed, many of which he had advocated for many years. He was glad to hear we had now 21,030 men more than in 1835 atno increase of cost. He hail urged a reduction of the army; but there were such extraordinary changes in the public feeling that it was difficult to effect any al teration. There was just now a paroxysm of alarm, which he couside red was wholly unfounded. We were running post haste ; the people seemed to have caught the same en thusiasm for arming as Vie government had; and the re sult would inevitably be that, if the present heavy indirect taxation was continued on industry, with a debt costing us 28 millions a year, and our armaments 17 millions, the peo ple would seek employment on other shores, where they were not exposed to such onerous burdens. It was because he was anxious for the removal of indirect taxa tion that he objected to these heavy armaments. On these grounds he entered his protest against tho aug mentation of the army. The entire military arrangements of the country ought to be placed under one system and one control. Ile had great confidence in the right hon. gentle man, and he trusted that he would abolish whatever abuses he could. (Hear.) Colonel SIBTIIORP said the hon. gentleman appeared anxious to provide good accommodation for the soldiers, but wuulsl he vote the additional expenditure which would be necessary for that purpose? The hon. gentleman also spoke of the army interfering with the industry of the country. It was not the army, hut your infernal free trade system that interfered with the industry of the country. (" lieu, hear," and laughter.) His principle was, keep out the for..imer, and he would go so far as to say expel those who are in favour of free trade. (Laughter.) Remember the Crystal Palace. (Laughter.) A respect able tradesman living near the Royal Exchange, told him hat he could not dispose of his goods in consequence of the foreigner—whose goods were cheap and nasty—stepping in. (Laughter.) They had heard something of the Peace So ciety. The members of that society would be the first to call in the military if their mills were in danger. (Hear.)l They would let the soldiers fight whilst they would hide themselves in their cellareor under the bed. (Laughter.) lie thanked the right hen. gentleman for the manner in which he brought forward the estimates, and however they might differ in politics, he (Col. S.bthorp) would rapport any measure that would contribute to the security, the welfare, or the dignity of the country. (Hear.) The vote war then agreed to 2 The vote of 3,025,7831., for the charge of the land forces at home and abroad, exclusive of India, was agreed to. Oa the vote of 162,8971. for the charge of the general staff officers and medical department, Sir DE LACY IiVANS drew attention to the expe diency and economy of the institution of a lectureship or professorship of military surgery in the King's College, or in ohe of the medical schools in London ; and a similar esta ' blishment iu the University, or at the College of Surgeons, in Dublin ; and suggested the removal to the metropolis of the Museum of Preparationsof Diseases of Foreign Climates ' now in Fort Pitt, Chatham, where it was comparatively seless, and inaccessible to medical students for the army and navy. Mr. S. HERBERT said it was true that there was no profsuorship of military hygeine in England, and he was ashamed to say that he was not at that moment aware from what fund the profs ssonhip of military surgery in Edin burgh was defrayed. He bad caused inquiry to be made as to the cost of establishing one here, and till he received information on that point be could not give an answer to the hon. and gallant officer. With regard to the removal of the museum at Fort Pitt, be did not well see haw that was to be effected, as all the available space for such objects was already occupied. On the ioto of 93,4641. for the charge of the public mili tary departments, Mr. lIUME wished to know why Australia, which was I new wallowing in gold, should not pay the expenditure for the troops ? Mr. S. HERBERT said that at present the arrangement with Australia Wall this—that any new regiments which were sent to that colony should be entirely maintained at the expense of the colonists. (Hear, hear.) 16,8881. for the Royal Military College, and 13,0201. for •he Royal Military Asylum and the Hibernian Military School, were then voted. Oa the next vote, 83,0001. for the charge of volunteer corps, Mr. HUDIE objected that this was a charge for the pur pose of allowing country gentlemen to disport themselves in military uniforms at reviews. He thought the force (the Yeomanry Cavalry) wholly unnecessary, and that those who were so desirous of appearing as soldiers for their own amusement should bear the expense. Mr. EVELYN was understood to ask what objection there was to the employment of voluntary rifle corps. ' Lord PALMERSTON must say that he did not consi der voluntary corps equal or nearly equal in efficiency to a militia. And this was so much felt in the last war—he meant that of ISo3—that whereas in the beginning of that war a largo amount of voluntary force was employed, it was found necessary to gradually diminish it, and ultimately substitute for it the militia. Who were the per sons likely to cumposo voluntary corps ? They were tradesmen, professional men, clerks, and men accustomed to a favourable and easy existence—men not accustomed or fitted by their habits of life to undergo the privations of military service, and the majority of whom, if called out to serve and live the life of soldiers—sleeping in the fields, and enduring cold and wet—would be in the hospital in a week. (" Hear, hear," and a laugh.) In seaport towns voluntary corps, under certain circumstances, might be usefully em ployed; but as a part of a general system of national de fence, he did not think they could place the saran depend ence upon them as upon a militia force. The vote was agreed to. On the next vote, 20,25C1., for rewards for distinguished services, allowances to officers of garrisons, holding appoint ments, as rewards for military services, including the Tower of London, Colonel LINDSAY inquired whether as regarded the 40 yeomen wardens now on the establishment, vacancies that occurred would be filled up ? Mr. 8. HERBERT said all the existing offices in the Tower, which were sinecures, would be abolished, and a plan for the effective service of the garrison would be substituted. The vote was agreed to, as were the following: 55,0001. for the pay of general officers, not being colonels of regiments. 50,0001. for the full pay of reduced and retired officers. 358,0001. for half-pay and military allowances to ,reduced and retired officers. On the vote for 34,6281. for the half-pay, and reduced allowances to officers of disbanded foreign corps, of pen sions to wounded foreign officers, and allowances to the widows and children of deceased foreign officers, Mr. HUME asked under what arrangement these pay meats were made, and what check there was on the reci pients. The vote seemed likely to continue for ever. Dlr. S. HERBERT said the parties had to pre sent themselves before the British consuls. The vote was gradually being diminished. The vote was agreed to ; as were 117,6371. for pensions to widows of officers, 79,6001. for allowances on the compassionate list of her Majesty's royal bounty, and pensions, gratuities, and allow ances to officers for wounds. On the next vote, 28,1491. for Chelsea and Kilmainbam Hospitals, Mr. HUME said the abolition of Kilinaiuham was recom mended by the committee on the Army and Navy, and he thought it had been carried out by the government. Mr. S. HERBERT said two proposals had been made— one to consolidate Kilmainham witn Chelsea Hospital, and the other not to make any fresh appointments, and to let the institution die a natural death. At present no new ap pointments were made. The vote was agreed to. 1,236,8001. for the Out-pensioners of !Chelsea Hospital, and 38,0001. for superannuation allowances, were agreed to. The house resumed, and the Chairman reported progress. METROPOLITAN IMPROVEMENTS (REPAY MENT OUT OF CONSOLIDATED FUND) BILL. On the motion for the second reading of this bill, Mr. BLACKETT had hoped to have heard some expla nation of this bill from the Chancellor of the Exchequer. When notice of the introduction of tke bill was given it was described as intended to pay off certain charges on the crown lands by an additional charge on the London-bridge Approaches Fund; but it had since been changed, and it was stated that there was to be no further charge on the coal fund. The bill was' so drawn as to be quite unintelligible. (The:hon. gentleman reed the 12th clause in illustration of this.) It was very desir. able that they should be told plainly what was the in tended operation of the bill. He had only received the bill as printed on Wednesday, and on that day sent a copy to the coal trade committee of Newcastle-on-Tyne, and it was physically impossible that they could yet have had an opportunity of forming en opinion on it, which it was fair they should be allowed to do before the second reading; and he hoped the government would consent to postpone it. Sir W. MOLESWORTH hoped the hon. gentleman would allow the bill to be read a second time, and take the discussion on the report. The bill did not add anything whatever to the mortgage on the coal duties. In order to obtain money for metropolitan improvements a sum had been borrowed at a high rate of interest; and as there was a disposable balance in the Exchequer it was proposed to pay off that sum, by which a considerable saving would be effected. Lord SEYMOUR said that formerly the offices of Works and Land Revenues were in one department, and the head of the department being pressed to make some public im provements, and money being wanted, the land revenues were mortgaged for the purpose. The money was borrowed from the soal fund. This circumstance led to the division of the departments of Works and Land Revenues, so that such confusion should not occur again. A sum of 800,0001. had been borrowed, and the interest was paid out of the land revenues, and it came to the same thing whether it waslmid out of those revenues or the Consolidated Fund; with this exception, that the Chancellor of the Exchequer was enabled to raise the money at a reduced rate of inte rest. The bill did not affect the coal trade in the least. Mr. PHILLIMORE hoped the bill in its present form and in the way in which it was drawn would not be pressed. After a few words from Mr. IxonAw, Mr. WILSON said that he thought that the particulars of the various clauses should be discussed in committee. The purpose of the bill would be best explained by the fol lowing facts:—Some years ago a commission was obtained for the purpose of making metropolitan improvements, and • large sum of money had to be borrowed. The commia- sioners applied to the Bank of England fora loan ef money, but the Bank was unwilling to lend upon the security of the commissioners. They had, therefore, to i•ff. r et h ee , security. This was found to bo an expensive m .de of rids. ing the money. The object of the bill now Wore t h e house was to enable them to discharge the liabilit:es upo n the revenue by payment out of the balances in the e tc h, quer. The machinery of the bill, he cootessed, was cont. plicated, but not more so than its object us cessitated. Mr. DISRAELI said that from the statement of the Be. cretary to the Treasury it appeared that it we. th e j a w,. tion of the bill to terminate what was originally an impro vident arrangement. But the arrangement now proposed would in its result diminish the balances I. the eseh equer, and it was of great importance that the amount b y . 4;01 the balances would be diminished should be ascertained. It appeared to hint that a large sum would be takes' fr om th e exchequer to carry the arrangements of the act into effect. The house must not consider that they were in , rely termi nating an improvident arrangement. They were sauction ing a process which might eutail upon the cousyry a men. sure far more injurious than the one to which they were putting an cud. It nppearcd that the bill was very obscurely drawn up; but, even according to the statement of the Secretary of the Treasury, it was of such n nature that the house ought to look at it with much consideration. The house ought to be informed to what cats at the ba lances in the exchequer were to be diminished. Mr. WILSON said ho ought to have stated that the amount was 960,0001., and, with some itEerait due, amounted in the whole to 1,070,0J01. He mast remind this house that though the balances in the exchespn would be ch irged with the payment of the amount, yet tie re was an income now arising from the fund specially ap sticable for the purpose, viz., the coal duty, and that that income would be appropriated until the whole amount was repaid to the exchequer. In redly to a qucation from Mr. M`Gunsotta as to ;the meaning of the set, Sir W. MOLESWORTH explained that there had been a sum of 30,00 w. set aside fer improvements its Southwark, and subsequently another sum of 3,0001. these amounts were now to form one sum. p Alter a short COOTt rsation, The house divided : Fur the second readin;r Against it OATHS IN CHANCERY BILL. This bill was read a second time. GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH . . On the order of the day that this bill, as .;;:ilded, be considered,____ Sir G. I'ECIIELL took the opportunity of th inking the right hon. baronet (Sir W. Moleswurth) for omitting Brighton from the schedule. Ile had premixed to omit it in case the town showed that it did not wish to be placed under the provisioni of the act. After n three day.' poll 346 persons had voted in favour of the bill, and about 2,000 again.t it; and the right hon. baronet hail, in accordance with the liberal views which characterised him, sanctioned the omission of Brighton from the bill. COUNTY RATES AND EXPENDITURE BILL. . . The house then went into committee on this bill pp f 0r,,,a, for the purpose of bringing up certain amendments. To be recommitted on Wednesday the 16th Itlareh. MANCIIESTERAND SALI , OItD EDUCATION, On the motion of Mr. M. GIBSON, the following members were nominated as the select committee on this tulkject:—Mr. Milner Gibson, Mr. Peto, Mr. Bright, Lord John Ruud, Mr. l'ellatt, Sir George Grey, Mr. Her Seymer, Mr. ChrisMphcr, Mr. Miles, Mr. Bowyer, the Marquis of Bland ford, Mr. Macaulay, Mr. Cobden, Mr. William Fox, and Mr. Brotberton. The house adjourned at a quarter past 11. PAIRS 07./ THE JEWISII DISABILITIES Iltu..—Mr. Murrough paired for with Mr. Start against. Csloncl K. Tytite paired for with Mr. Beckett against. Slier OCT.—Mr. C. J. Marc presents his compliments to the editor of the Express, and will feel obliged by his stating that he was neeitlentally shut out yesterday, the 23rd, from voting on Mr. Spooner's motion on the Maynooth question. 11, llyde-park Gardens, Feb. 24. P ARLIA .11 EN TA RY HOUSE OF COMMONS, FEE. 24. JEWISH DISABILITIES. Mnricor made, and question pTit, r ''llat the house do resolve it•ell tiro a co:unittee, to take into con.ideration certain civil diii.vii'ii2e aflztting the Jews."—The house di% ided : Ayes, 23i; Note, 20. MAJORITY—AYES, 234. Adair, Gogh E. French, F. Nome's, Lord Alcoa, Thomas Gardner, R. O'Connell, Maurice Anderson, Sir James Gaskell, J. M. O'Flaherty, A. Anson, Otneral ... Giarnn, Tames 31. Oliveira, B. Atherton, Wm. aaclsrof;c,NTlliia — si Osborne. Ralph ItsVey, Crawshay GITN George Carr Otway, Arthur John Baines, M. T. God , Tich, Viscount Palmerot,.n. Viscount Ball, Edward Goodman, S.r George l'echal, or C. lid!, John Gower, F. L. Feel, F. Bating, bit F. Grace, 0. Fcllatt, Apsley Bar Lea , T. Graham, Sir J. I'M i Moore .I. .. _ Bass, M. T. ... Greene, John Phi Unwire, K. Grepon, Samuel 'I bomas Bedew, Captain Grenfell, C. Piaui, Francis Berkeley, Admiral Greville, Col. Pindaric's, James Berkeley, 11.1 Grey, Sir G. Pinney, Wm. Berkeley, C. P. Grosvenor, Lord R. Pollard, U. W. Bethell, Richard lisdlield. George Ponsonby, Hon. A. Mackey., J. F. B. Hall, Pie Benjamin Portman, W. Bonham.C.rter, J. Harcourt. G. G. Price, W. P.' Bouveric, E. P. Retie, Alexander Ricardo, 0.1 Boyle, Colonel Hastie, Archibald Rice, E. Brady, John Ileadlam, Thomas E. Roberta., T. J. A. Brand, 11. B. W.l Hendry, D. O'Coanor Revell, Lord J. BrockleLurst, John Herne, G. F. Russell. k'. C. 11. Bruthcrtoo, J. Herbert, 11. A. Bowie, C. B. G. Brown, 11. Herbert, Sidney, Scholefital, W. Browne, V. Heywood, James Scabell, Captain Bruce, 11. A. /logg, Sir J. W. Scrape, G. I'. Bull:dry, Sir It. B. Howard, C. W. G. Scully, V. Butler, Charles Howard, Lord E. Seymour, Lord Sync, 0. 11. Charles Hudson, George Seymour, 11. D. Cardwell, lion. E. Hume, J. Seymour, W. D. Cayley, E. S. Hutchins, E. Shelburne , Fir Id Challis, Alderman Hutt, William Shelley, tor J. V. Charteris, F. Ingham, R. Sheridan, It. B. Chrethatn, John reason, William Smith, Jolla Abel Clay, J. Jcrmyn, Earl Smith, John B. Clay. Mr W. Jolnnione, Sir J. Santo, M. Tucker Clifford, Henry M. Heating, Robert Smite, Right lion, R. Clinton, Lord Robert Keating, H. S. Stafford, Mantua Cobden, Richard Kennedy, Tristram Stanley, Lord Coekiurn, Sir Alex. Kershaw, Jame Mansfield, W. B, Coen, Walter Xing, P. J. Stapleton, John Collier, Robert P. Hinnalrd, A. F. Strutt, Right Hoe, E. Corbally, H. Kira, William Stuart, Lord D. Cowper, W. F. Lsbouchere, Henry Sullivan, M. Crau'urd, E. Langston, J. 11. Swill, It. Crook, Joseph Lanett, William Talbot, C. ELM. Crowder, Richard B. Lawry, P. C. Tancred, Henry Wm. Cubitt, Alderman Layard, A. H. Thicanesee, R. A. Currie, Raikes Locke, J. Thompson, ti. Daahwood, G. IL Lowden, P. Viol nely, f. Davie, Far H. Lowe, Robert Tomlin% G. Denison, J. E. Lucas, F. Townley, C. Disraeli, Benjamin Lan, T. Trill, 0. Divett, Edward 11.Quin, James Vernon, G. E.II. Drumlanrig, Vigo:unit M'Mahon, P. Villiers, C. Duff, G. 8. M•Taggart, Sir 3, Vivian, J. E. Duff, Jame Hagan, W. H. Vivian, .1. Ilenry Duffy, C. 0. Marshall, Wm. Wall, Charles Baring Duke, Sir J. Matey, W. N. Walmsley, Sir J. DUIICZUI, George Matheson, A. Walter J. Duneembe, T. Matheson, Sir J. Werner, E. Muria.% P. Shall, Edward Whalley, G. Dunlop, A. Michell, W. Whitbread, F. Ellice, E. Milligan, R. Wickham, H. W. Elliot, J. E. Mills, T. Wilkinse, W, A. Fannerade, J. Milner W. M. E. Wilcox, B. Evans, Sir De Lary Milne', It.. B. Williams, W. Evans, William Moffatt, 0. Wilscn, J. Ewer, William Hone, Lord Wilson, Mathew Fagan, W. Moncreiff Jame Wuniington, bit T. Ferree, Sir L Horne ll , Wil li am Wyrill, M. Fitzroy, Henry Morris, D. Toung, Sir J. Forster, H. Moatyn, E. M. Forster, Charlie Idulgrave, Earl METALS. Eon, W. J. Hum. Colonel Hayter, W. G. Pressen, Colonel Murphy, F. S. Berkeley, Granville HINORITY—NOEB, 201. Addwley, C. Freelield, James W. Mailings, J.ltandolin Annelle, Earl of Frewen, C. H. Monday, William Arbrithnott, General Gladstone, Captain Naas, Lord Arkwright, G. Goddard, Ambrose L. Napier. Joseph A stell, J. H. Gooch, Sir E. Neeld, John nine. William Gordon, Admiral Newdegate,C.N. Battey, Sir J. Coulee, Henry Noel, Gerard Jame" Bailey, H.J. Graham, Lod 1L W. North, Colonel Baldock, E. H. Granby, Marquis of Oakes, J. IL P. Banes, 0. Grogan, Edward Onulston, Lord Barriagtoe, Viseonat Guernsey, Lord Peke C. William Barrow, W . H. Owyn, Bowel Pakington, Biz J. Bennet, Philip Hale, Robert B. Palmer, Robert Bentinch, Lord IL Halted, Sir Henry Parker, R.T. Bentiack,George P. Hall, Colonel Peel, Sir Robert Bererforl, William Halsey, Thomas P. Peel, Colonel Blair, Oalonel Hamilt o n, Coo . A. Percy, J. Bloodied, 'lde Email:ca. J. Hew. Phillip" 1. U. wawa, M , Heetery, Has. C. Prime, R. Booker, T. W. Hammel, asked 'lepton, G. W.I. Brunton, T. W. Hengist" George H. Robertson, P. F. Brenuidge, Richard Henley, Jorir W. Bolt, P. Brie°, Itr r rave Herbert, Sir Menu Rushout, Captain Brooke, Hervey, Lord Alfred Scott, F. Brooke, Sir A. B. Hildyard, Moberg C. Sesham, Lard Brine, C. L. C. Hope, Sir J. Seymer, H. X.• Buck, Lewis W. Hotham, Lord Sibthorp, Colonel Burghley, Lord Iron, Samuel Sminli, sir W. Burrell, Sir C. H. Jolliffe, Sir W. G. IL Smith. Win. M. Butt, O. M. Jones, Captain Smyth, J. 0. . Butt, Isaac Jones, David Somerse,Captax Cairns, 11.H.Callemt Kendall, Nicholas Sotheron, T. IL S. Campbell, Sir A. Xer, D. B. Spooner, Z. ChM's", Viscount Kerrigan, E. C. (Word, Mew= ' Child, Smith King, J. H. Stanhope, James B. ' Cholenoodeley, Li. H. Kingetiote, R. N. T. Stuart, H. Christopher, R. Adam Knatehbull, Wm. F. Taylor, Colonel I Christy, Samuel Knight, E. W. Teener, Sir F. , Clive, R. IL Knightley. attack' Th o mpson, Mr. std. Clive, Robert Knox, Co t Tollesnache, John Cobbett, J. Morgan Knox, W. 8. Trollope, no J. Cobbold. J. Chevalier Leon, Sir E. Tudway, R. C, 1 Cocks, Thomas 8. Langton, W. 0. Tuner, C. i Codringtoo, Mr Wm. Lewisham, Vise. Tyler, Sir George • Coles, H. C. Liddell, H. G. Vance, J. Cumlnoal H. Coombe Lindsay, Colonel vanentart, G. Bs Davies, D. Lockhart, W. Verner, Su• W. Davison, R. Long, W. Villiers, France Dudes, W. Loraine, Lord Vivian, J. E. 1 3" During, Sir E. DruDed,:fohnj. S. W. E. E. Et.t Lo lA w w th th er e :', , C C:o o !onel tabs . Er r a nd ico dbl i :gto h x d o d . m , llll . .. R. Si a Da Cane, Charles Macaulay, K. Walpole, Siemer It. Theekworth, Sir J. Hackie, John Watsb, Sir John B. Dancombe, Ilan. A. Macgregor, Jima WelleY, i ce Dancombe, Hon. W. Mandeville, Viscount West, Frederick It. Donde% G. Manners, Lord°. Whitmore, Henn Da Pre, C. George Manners, Lord J. Wigraro, LT. East, Sir J. B. March, Earl of Willoughby, sir IL Egerton, Sir Phillip Mare, C. J. Wise, John A. Eralyn, Viscount Martin, John Wyndham, General Evelyn, W. J. Waterman, John w Taslh'•'• W. • Farnham, E. B. Muunaell, T. P. Wynn, Herbal A . • Ferrer, James Mein, Sir Henry Wynne, Plover, John Niles, William Tone, Eliot Thai s Follett, Brent ii. Miller, T. J. Forrester, Colonel Mlle, A. WAIL/. Forster, Sir G. Montgomery, Sir G. Inglis Sir R. R... Franklyn, George W. Moody, C. A. Mackenaie, Vi .k. k'raser, Mr Wm. A. Morgan, C. llodney