The Express. — London, England, 1852-01-07 00:00:00

sal& twin Neel. gel apinalm of t/se . Abatelubs. It dist some time we Krell eehmentendeil the traders wa d 'input At Butterworth to sea/their cattle betond the Bah c river be neurity. Mr. Jiffies accordingly tont 120 ▪ to that pert of the country, and many of the people eslowed this 'Remote, although the iniasionary cult isgeied the experiment to be hasanlon., sod ex wd bars to the people as to the result s ( wading wading their cattle .o far from home. On the 14th 'Li st, a combined party of Tasabookies and leech's peo ▪ nrrrd utf the -bole of these cattle. '(here can be no .hilt of Kr, le. bad faith, which must have been fully wen t I the tioveroer souse time ago. It is pn *unto hove been att irked long since hot for the brier wive, AU I the siee.e.ity of employing the ve▪ l a nearer the boundary in defence of the colony. A 9. i.el s wr, a combined movement of truitnof the Ist and 2nd now about to tale place in the direction of the he'- it may be hopeal that an opportunity will occur for Krell rod that part of his tribe Beta: near the w i no Nisi .ad conoemenees of war and the miwries ii ,,„, g ht upon themselve. by adopting the council. and ful k,niar the fortune. or the hostile chief. and tribe.. .eh..n. aid been .mue further had feeling excited between l ye e in r.r. near Morley and the Tambookies under the t e„.(jog. .f)e Finitoes Were clearly to blame, and acted veer treacherously Wires& Jeoi. whom they attacked when etc, nl. 17 a *mall party of 10 men, one of whom was while the chief himself and another man were Thi. affair of coigne produced hostility, sal the r wised a niimber of the Finarea• rattle ▪ is . o o.nt of the insult to the chief. It is not unlikely hat th,. outrage w.is made the pretext for seiein the 'ee:worth eittle beyond the Ilaeliee. However. a. Mr. )1 at has been again appealed to by the chief. to arteratc on thi• new cause of quarrel, it i. poentile hr may te.toring peace and inducing the Tombookie. to pie ▪ hi. k the rattle Liken. on the Fiascoes paying a suitable tar f•s t b r. r t rese hery and inoilt to Jame At no moment ••• it 01 ' nr.rrimportance that their tribe. should be kent gait ton yu.t now, while the trials arc likely to en to the sezeheitlee.l of the Kei. If they tan hr kept from with each other, their cupidity will make them way tteutile.onie to Krali*. people . 41011111 the latter be hr. lutist Mt.. eolliS , oll with the troorn, and he rnupt lied t. Basher and beyond with their cattle. 10.- a.w. from Faka'..muntry is down to the 11th itne Ai: a,. perfectly quiet at that date among the .kmampon. .1. 9 9, awl rake bad put paid a si.it with meat of hi. lead- ise min to Mr. Jeukin*, the mio•ionary at l'alnitaton, to had given the stronge.t 3,99111:911r0s that the fe r▪ n ho intention to lied Are fad.', and that he au with the Enitliah, nor ever wishee to have. lie country is is Taw..., and I hope it will cou- Wow Me bevel. tters from Whittleses, by way of Fort flare. • toe:eat h mat , from which we learn that the respected room u r It elate* rattle and .heap hail been taken, and a Van. Lieutenant Ain:. i Ith. while reeving tram olf.tl to Illinka it. r-poet, was &marked, and Bi :rot April timid a *tomer of balk Around Lira e a l '. 1 own matters are p seeable. It is understood that lartners are about to adopt a memorial to the :...Litsve Council on the subtert of compensation. Fenn the l'evatire Times, Nov. 23: of the expeditimi which i. about to be undertaken veas the Art is known all over Kaffirliand, and l'ato's leen, it stein., are dunning those im charge of the waggon .:.voy• for atrium, of .• milk money, alleging that the von. p o i are now going away." We have res•on to believe that r el i c matters arc almost as nem 'riot's in the Slambie coun try they were *non after the tine breakin-y out of hosti- Lt,.. linti.h authority is perhaps even more ile.pired mem. , the ...ratted friendly tribes than ever. eandilli is cal un listurbei in the f eitne..es of the Am dole ; Macomo • utrew hi d in the Waterkloof; from which his forces Mae no: been expelled; the rebel camp at the Fish River kat got been broken up. The whole frontier is exposed to the ravages of the enemy, who, with their munlerous tan.l• are still within its limits, and yet the mrunlander ▪ • has; planned an expedition sem« the Kei. For et. .t awful purpow such an expedition could be under taken .I'. the prevent women* it is difficult to conjecture. We, tenet anticipate that any ;rood or decided result will 5e.... out of it, but it will probably be the signal fur the pee r:esti, Of (other mi.chief upon the colony. A good pea... we believe, protects his rear before he makes an aloe: I inns anent. The present commander-in-chief Mar - rear unprotected whilst he runs forward to assail tt. .n an in front, leaving hi. rear to he occupied by the fanny But then Sir Harry Smith is a military genius • aisiiiinients cannot be tested by the rules of ordinary ce.itui arithmetic. TLc following is from the same journal : •• BL ILWATga. Nov. 19, 18.;1.—The sail gloom fieust suer everything here by the death of the much Is. • /Orate.% appears but slowly to pew aoty —indeed, th. wit! 'feeling Setlol to be " who will be next ?" LOT lively declare they . will go there no more to be bath. rid like cattle. It as a fearful sacrifice of human t send men as brave as ever shouldered a fireloek, to nth a place, with such a enemy to contend against—cone u, here is of no avail, discipline and steadiness underlie. ray render the men better targets for the lurking savtgee. Let vet. it is Fenerally reported we make a forward move •a• to the kei, when we hope to hare open work of it, sad g.-t &little good meat, which is quite out of the ques ts% 4 this place. The Kadls are daily stealing cattle from here end furs Beaufort, and generally succeeded in getting of • thou. Yesterday they stole about fifty or sixty of C.,ramitsariat oxen ; hut by timely notice, and the sc. of a Party of dismounted C. M. Rides and Port hat. :II /sinew., the greater part were retaken, and three • nemy shot,—ooe serjeant was wounded on our side. It 'tarot from the night fires, that the enemy is very tuns 10.1) still in Fuller's Hoek and Waterkloof, and indeed a thr etude of three parts. Their being here is a tax on tlt a..:Lboarhood, fur as they have no cattle now, they hre 111. , a Ilf.' • the above was received we have intelligence from C, • imp to the 2lth inst., from which it appears that a treizon with supplies, belonging to Captain Bruce, 7lth al eau allied by a detachment of that regiment, under lout hung. was attacked by the enemy and pilaged on htio.m. and the oxen stolen. The party were peneeed ng op Backwater Hill toward. Post Belief. The tair7 w et o n was recovered the following morning. The vas, ere now known to be as numerous in the Waterkloof ▪ r A c.rrespondent at Fort Beaufort writes November 1.; -Isiurniation bag just been brought in (men the Major i.l• camp, that the Kelfirs cut a span of oxen loose has . e. of the waggons in the general's camp last night t laifirs were also shot near Beaufort by a party end fee,. who were mot patrolling ; the gun of one of Gm Isar who was shot was brought in, and the other Kale, tag a doable barrel gee, fell into the river as he was shot -1 part) of Flagon has just started to search for the gun a't• Oyer. The above span of oxen, which was takes bee the general's prop, was taken out of his oven baggage mare - Is:h.-Informatioa has jest been brought again of re highs taking eight span ol oxen at Blinkwater camp, his the hems. The enemy were coon overtaken, and .1.4 recovered, with the eginplion of eighteen, while 11 ittri got side of with; fine Fingoes were wounded, tit of ebsui has alma died aim wound. The oxen taken tut 13 if Mr. his, mull d of Mr. Vallentine. Last night &Kies crept up cleas to the sentries and and at them, bg 4:1 ast hurt any. "Cue. 19 -Milers. Knott have been robbed of all their flap and hams, and it is expected that all the cattle will .wes away nest. It was well known that railer* in Orme the en. my out of the Waterklouf would lead them helms"' gawkier. There is scarcely a day poses with out the essay getting cattle from Geseral Somerset's ma?. they 'tole a span Use other sight nut tea yards from earal't teat ; if he remains bee much longer you may prhspi hear of kis being walked of with." The (allowin g . is the monthly summary o f the Cape Mid of Dec. 2 : Our wintery of last month terminated with an aceseent 011wappireut sueemajof Major•Orneral Somerset's! opera- Me. WNW the enemy in the Wateskleof. The large body WK.*, and Hottentots who under the Chief MICOIIIO ' , mewl that 'troaglold, had, it was supposed, beau de bit-Ist all point., and driven eastward into the Amatolas. A • earrel order of the commander-in•ehier annommord Unsuccessful result in glowing and very laudatory tense. fay of the onemy, however, were supposed to be still ,ftLag ia the fastnewee from which the main body was atsol to has, hens driven. For the purpose of expelling nett sett, 0.1 bands, General fitment, on the 6th alt., snail his division again upon the positions which were ' , Apposed to occupy. A more determined r`' inky sem experienced than had been antici !.' .1 The enemy proved to be in considerable ' 14. • and (ought with desperate courage. The ' 11 1" sd'aneed in three columns, under General I ''a 'ran WWI Lieut.-Colemels Fordyce. of the 74th, and of the r.th Regiment. Colonel Fordyce's heisted' v. t rst manurNi. A body of the enemy was found posted ory string position, behind the reeks at the head of Ut Waterkluof ravine. From this position a deadly fire le s;euitsi upon the troops as they advanced, and with - 4 '"'"" 11 .3; et. Colonel Fordyce and several men of the 'lrtw Pb Semler-et were struck down by the first volley. This sal iatilligent officer was idolised by the t command, and Ind gained the esteem and e r :r th.- colonists in a remarkable degree during the 1 ; 1 7' 1 .0.011), of weviee on the frontier. lie died on the "'-• a be minutes after rceeivisg the wound, his last "' 'meg "Take care of my regiment. - The enemy .fterwards partially driven from his position ; but, un 'te,retelv, not without several more casualties among the b. ' T. ittut. Carey, of the 74th, two sergeant., and two u..a4 tile were killed, and Lieut. Gordon (since dead), .:At me -all of the 74th regiment-wounded. 1 1. fullowing day the operations were resumed. and the '"Y was driven from various position in the ravines and forst.. w i t h ronsiderable lose. On our side, one MB ("ammo lrevenish, of the Beaufort West Levy, wax 1 ' 1 ' 4 4 wounded ; three men of the 91st and four of the t ales wounded. On the Nth. the weather proving , nlTh at*lY inclement, Major-Oeneral Somerset withdrew hU th, camp in the Blinkwater, where he has since klesierst It is understood that no further movements 'tout the enemy in that quarter are contemplated at pre 'l4t Michels brigade has since returned to le edviartars. The detachment of the 73rd, which, Licatetukat-(Mon t ) Eyre, had been for several weeks li t i f and efficiently employed in protecting the r . "l teenier from th e i ncurs i ons of the enemy, bus also 1 I : l ,..!ithdrawn to bead quarters, its place being supplied • 12th nirinunt, under Lieut. Colonel Fercival. k 2!. vet. cutration of troop+ at King William's Town elwit fur the purpose of despatching a large fame . I, c Es!, int o the territory of Krell, the paramount liatliclund, who is supposed to have in his keeping a great amber of the cattle that have been deletes from the I colony. The itenduet of Kreli has been vacillating and aus picious from the manneueement of the war; and recently • heed of tattle, belonging to English traders in this country, is Mel to have been wised by some of his people. The force which is to enter the country of this chief will consist of 3,000 men, antler Mcier-Oentnl Somerset and Colonel Mackinnon. The operations. it is said, will occupy a month. The propriety of andertakiag such a movement, while the frostier districts are in their present condition, is • questioned by persons resident in that part of the colony. The frontier burghers, who bad been summoned by their cotammulauts to meet at rust Relief, on the 30th ult., for a general movement against the enemy, were assembling in cuusiderable numbers, a week before the appointed day. • ' Marauding parties continue to infest the fruntier districts, and to commit depredations on the few remaining Hocks and herds of the farmers. Set eral skirmishes hue taken place between these plunderers and snaill perties of the colonists, with some loss of life on both sides—the enemy, however,' suffering the must severely. The Orange River Sovereignty, at the last amounts (Nov. 17), was still in a very unsettled state. Open hostilities, however, had not been TeCull 1111 l 'need. Muehesh, the Basuto chief, continued to ewer a desire for mace. The majority of the emigrant been beyond the Vaal River were also be lieved to be well disposed, though a few of them were re ported to be inclined fur hostilities. It is hoped that the aulitant-commissioners, Major Ilogge and Mr. Owen, who started from King William's-town for the sovereignty about three weeks sgo, will ho able to effect • satisfactory settle ment of the affairs of that province. The disturbances in the interior have bad the effect of greatly diminishing the inland trade of Natal. 'Chat colony has of late suffered considerably from commercial depres sion; but tb: internal tranquillity of the settlement hunt been dieturbed. The Legislative Council has been in session during the month. A hill, propeeed by the secretary to government, for the removal of "squatters," or unauthorised occupiers, from government land, has been under discussion, and has excited much comment. Many persons, including the ottorney,general and some experienced missionaries, are of opinion that the measure is ill-advised, and likely to have a dangerous effect at the present time, inasmuch as moat of the persons to whom it would apply aro of the coloured elms, many of whom might thus be exasperated and driven to rebellion. The bill is null under consideration. A gent ordinance tor regulating the sale of gunpowder and fire-arms has been passed. A bill to sanction the bor rowing of 40.0001., on the security of the colonial revenue, fur the improvement of the prisons of the colony, has also been discussed, and its second reading postponed till after the passing of the estimates for lfl i 2. the estimates for 1840 and 1841 (which, owing to poli tical embarrassments, had not before been sanctioned) have been passed, by one act, without discussion—moat of the sums thus appropriated having been alreaely expended. On the motion of the eeeretary of government, es resolution authorising the Harbour Board to borrow the sum of .10,7 01.11. for the construction of a sea-wall and other im provements in Table Day has also been passed. The draft ordinances, embodying the new colonial con stitution, arrived by the Propontis on the 31st of October; they were subsequently forwarded to King William's Town for the governor's peewee', and, when returned by him, were publi.hed, on the 27th of Nees ember, in the Govern ment Gazette. On the Pith ult. they were read a first time in the Council, and their second reading was postponed fur two month.. The constitution embodied in these ordinances had given great satisfaction to the colonists, and this uncalled-for and unexpected postponement hes caused extreme indignation. The Cape 'town municipality, before this postponement was known, unanimously resolved: " That an address or petition be preseoted to her Majesty the Queen, expressing the grateful acknowledgments of the municipality of Cape town for the boon which her Majesty has been pleased to concede to this colony in the liberal form of government embodied in the dtatt ordinances, which they thankfully accept, and pray that it may be caused into et , feet without any materiel alteration in its leading principles, ' or any further delay, and which the commissioners trust, under the blessing of Divine Providence, may be the means of restoring tranquillity within the territories of this unfor tunate colony, besides being of lasting beaefit to the inha bitants at large." A public meeting is to be held this day (Dec. 2), at which ft is expected that resolutions of a similar tenor will be passed. Among those who are expected to address the meeting in f of the resolutions are the four gentlemen who last year seceded from the couneil, and who then pre pared the outline of a constitution not materially differing from that which has now been granted. Two of these gen tlemen, Sir Andries Stockenstrom and Mr. Fairbairn, re turned to the colony in the Harbinger, and were cordially welcomed on landing by their fellow colonists. A very large assemblage took place in and before the town hall on this occasion, and after the addressee of the delegates bad been heard, Mr. Haupt proposed " Three cheers foe the Queen, and oar thanks to her fur the noble constitution which she lens granted to the Cape of Good Hope "—which (u the report states) was most heartily responded to by the assemblage, both within and without the hall. The desire for the immediate establish ment of free institutions is intense among all classes of the inhabitants, with the exception of a few persons directly or indirectly connected with the local government. Rumours of disaffection among the coloured classes in some of the western Uistricts have been rife during the past month. A government commission, appointed for the pur port., has been able to discover no serious ground' for the reports, which however bad caused, and are still causing, considerable uneasiness. Until a regular Government, en joyiug the confidence of the inhabitants, is established, the colony must retrain in a painful state of uncertainty and disorganisation. On December 2, the day of the Harbinger's de parture, a public meeting was held in Cape Town, at which resolutions were adopted gratefully accept ing the offered constitution, add praying that it may bo sanctioned by her Majesty's government without any material alteration, and without further delay. The following petition was also unanimously adopted, and received 400 signatures within hail an hour: I'ItTITION OF TSB INHABITANTS or Cars TONC— To the queues Meet Maceßent Majesty.—The loyal ad dress and humbler.Ms of the undersigned inhabitants of the tanainiuelitles of se_w Twee and Green Point, humbly sh.th*—Thst yew WOW@ faithful and loyal subjects admemiedge the bow which your Majesty has gmeisemly plena& On confer in the liberal hem of government embodied in the letters patent end two draft ordinances, constituting a parliament I I Ise this oniony, published in the Cape of Good Hops 0111MMINali Gandhi of the 27th day of November, 1851. That your petitioners willingly defer, for the coneideration of the taboo pedbmeM, such matters of detail as are not absolutely regyabled le ligir.g the maid ordinances into house. diets operation. Iggether with such other points in We selmediame sonespnomo, contained in the said drafts, ea me Net L asseedme with the petitions on this subject per waled to peor pi r= last year, and sincerely acespt the sebum Dew to the public, as well adapted to meet *sweats and wishes of the colonists. And as the pre sent Legidstim Council of this settlement, to which tier*meat immertnaterdisaacts have been submitted for con sideol• cgs emu rep vents or enjoys the mildews of the year petitioners humbly, but mast Wm your Majesty may be graciously pl " roossl =aid your consent from any alterations in bedew! by that lay which shall be found inconsistent with the peinelpies sod provisions of the said deem, and that tie Whig. IS Nearly as possible as it now stands, may lOSSIM yew lliejrafifis suction, and be put in force without dmlhee Wheenee or delay, so as to restore peace, harmony, sod somideNos throughout this portion of your Majesty's annlidnarolsi Mpromots its totem welfare and happiness. I And yew Idejeet yb bumble petitioners, se is duty bound, will ever posy, &e. The Hat River levy at Fort Hare had been dis armed by order of Major Forbee, and much astonish ment would appear to hale been excited among the British population by the receipt of an order from Major-General Somerset to the effect that their arms should be restored to them. Suspicion had for some time been entertained against this Hottentot brim and there was a great indisposition on the part of the colonists to serve in company with them. The Clip nem Mali thou comments on the state of affairs ia the Woo , on the conclusion of the ope ration' in the W The sews teem the emather is anything but satiefeetoey. Mamma sad meet able pimple are mkt to have made their meth hem the Krems Heights into the Anatole Moun tains. Their IMMO must have been combleted M a gni* memo, es they took with the. emend thousand bead 111110011 i that II loss not appear that any attempt was fah SO I. weeps Orem costume prevailed beyoad tit Z.& The e indent and mesenteries were alarmed by the esesseriegdeneresor of Kreli'a and of the other teems is MO haselor. It was repelled at Kiag William's Tows thatalmp here, including boa the Lancers sad the tosses shortly be dispatthei to their relief. The Mb= bon beat* recalled to heahrparens. La the Orsose Neer eseardipiy. the Gems of alltine, vadat Me* Warden's namosninat. eentlowed M hod rem bad to worse. The hespeind bean withhatra hem Wisdom., to the great dismayief the inhabieele se that town, who were the hdt defroostree. About Silty boors had alma the Veal liver into the smereigoty, proles sadly br tho of attacking our " ally," Ethos yells, diet Gf the 'denuders, whom the bone accuse of bathes "Idea their cattle. It is Maned that the men rseposembie of the migrant fanners did sot coon term» their poessaltess. Meanwhile, our other ally, Mimeo Were( the - liseekrap, the quarrelled with our valuable anzilindse, the Skates hem Natal, whom the Nubia lladasit seems to have hoed a very perplexing oddities to him bees Our three ineepeedble governor,— Mir Harry Smith, Major Wardell. sad Mr. Pins—are likely, if left much looser unretheined, to make work enough to employ the whole hrideb mmy. TheChenethee of the Exchequer will not be troubled swim tithe 111110111 for some years to come. The Dowahhotrest system of colonial government, u exhibited la ass* Africa, hue provided effectually spine the recurrent* of that inane venienoe. THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY enemy from hie positions in the mountains of the Krona' Range. On the 18th instant I detached a large force, under Lieut.-Culiinel Fordyce, to the Blinkwater valley, to bring up ammunition and supplies. In the meantime, I employed the remainder of the force in making a strong reconnnisauce ' of the enemy's various positions, preparatory to my in tended attack upon him, on the return of Lieut.. Colonel Fordyce's force with the necessary supplies. These were, however, delayed by the heavy rams, which set in on the 18th and 19th instants—preelnding the execution of any operations with advantage. In the meantime, I proceeded to Post Relief, to make certain arrangements fur the wounded men whom I had wet to that poet. On the 21st instant, the enemy having previously shown on the distant heights a very strong concentrated hirer, threatening the passage of the convoy from Blinkwater, I moved, with .Lieutertant.Culonel Michel's brigade, at dawn of that day, and occupied the eastern spurs of the Kromme Range, to give protection to the convoy proceeding up the steep end difficult pass of the Blinkwater hill, and the eon vo was thus safely conducted to the bivouac a t three p.m. On the 22nd instant, having made my dispositions for attacking the enemy on the following morning, I marched Lieuteuant-Colonel Michel's brigade from the heights to Illinkwater, preparatory to musing up Fuller's Hoek the following morning. On the 23rd in-tant, having arranged with Lieutenant- Colonel Nesbitt that he should move his force at daybreak up the Blinkwater to the point where the Hog's Back Range abutted on the waggon road, and then, bringing his right shoulders forward, work up that :WIN, I ordered the re mainder of the troops, consisting of the royal artillery, under Lieutenants Campbell and Field, Lieutenant-Col. Fordyce's brigade, and the Cape Mounted Rifles, direct on the enemy's position at th e h ea d o f t h e Waterklis:f. The fog lifted as the run rose. Ou approaching the forest. I detached two guns Royal Artillery and Cape Mounted Rifles to the left of my position, on the western ridge of the !log's Back Hill, to cover the movement of Lieut.-Colonel Neshites force. I opened fire on the enemy's position at that point, where I observed the Rates hotly . engaged with the enemy, moving up in skirmishing order, in fine style, along the face of the ridge, receiving the enemy's tire, and driving him up the hill. I then ordered the 12th end 74th Regiments upon the enemy's position along the edge of the ton , t, occupying the Links with the Forgoes. The enemy here, ha ing strongly posted below rocks in the forest, opened a galling and well sustained fire on the advancing line. Seeing the Iliac, had gained the height, I opened tire with artillery from both Hanks of my position, the enemy still holding the rocks, and firing severely from the cover, the 74th suffering some loss. At nine o'clock I observed brut.-Colonel Michel's brigade advancing through the belt of forest on the right of the enemy's position. I directed him to cross the front of their position, and support the 74th on their right. A., the rear of Lieut.-Colonel Michel's column had cleared the forest, I saw it strongly attacked from behind; the 91st faced about, and drove the enemy back, suffering some loss ourselves and the enemy suffering severely. The Ritles, having captured 69 head of cattle, end baring now joined on my leR, the enemy's position being turned and driven back, I threw out three companies to occupy the belt of forest at the head of Waterkloof. At hall•past 11 I ordered the troops is halt and breakfast, having been under arms, marching, and en gaged with the enemy, from 4 s.ni. While halting, I ob served the enemy retreating, rod passing from tie bath of the Waterkloof Forest towards the lirenune Range. At 2 p.m., Lieut.-Colonel Nesbitt's brigade having moved up in light order without blankets, I desired his force to return to the Illinkwater by the eastern spur of that range, cover ing this movement with the guns. At 3 p.m. I placed Lieut.-Colonel Michel's brigade in position, retiring with the remainder down the valley for water. Our loss this day was three men of Lieut.-Colonel Nesbitt's brigade wounded—one mortally; two men 74th killed, three wounded ; three men 91st Regt. wounded, having driven the enemy from one of the strongest positions I ever saw, de fended by large rocks end headlands, intersected by ravines of immense depth. On the morning of the 24th inst., I moved up to Lieut.- Colonel Mithel's position, but the weather set in with such a fog, accompanied b 7 sleet end rain, that I found it im• practicable to act against the enemy with advantage. The following morning, the weather becoming more lever*, with violent hail and sleet, I countermanded all further operations. On the morning of the 26th, I moved Lieut.-Col. For dyce's force, at five cm., from Mundell's farm down to the bottom of the Waterldoof valley, with directions to him to march round the western spur of the range up the valley to the southern bead of the /imam Ridge, to attack the new position which the enemy had taken up in force. While this movement was going on, I directed Lieut.-Col. Michel to move on their force, and occupy the belt of bush that intersects the range between Fuller's Hoek and Water kloof. This movement was executed in the most able and spirited manner by Lieutenant Colonel Michel and his force. In the meantime, I observed Lieutenant-Colonel Fordyce's force advance from the opposite heights, did clearing the enemy's position. I then passed the 91st Reps. through the forest, and reinforced Lieut.-Col. Fordyce with it, directing him to occupy the encamp on the enemy's posi tion. A company of Captain Verity's Fingoes came across, bringing out ten oxen and some Hottentot women from the rebels. These, however, profess to know nothing of the enemy, saying that their husbands were killed on the 234 inst., that the enemy's loos is very great, and that Macomo does not know where to find security. One of these pri soners is the widow of Christian Van Staden, a prominent leader of the Blinkwater rebel Hottentots, from the omit mencement of the war. Oa the 27th inst., Lieut.-Col. Fordyce came through the heist with his regiments. The enemy showed name re dolence at the bead of Fuller's Hoek, attacking two wpm rubs skat bed sawed that point, and were not driven bre Intel le:11=• meant/n on them with the gnu mid airesply the party; Licut.-Col. Michel's hens haring, remanding le my previous direction, worked up the the valleys of the Blinkwater. Our loss this day Wlll kinftd,, bllt the enemy must have suffered considera bly. I elsonwell him retiring from all points. I saw the wo- Yam retreatiaidevra the distant willies, with loads on their' , buds—tbiseetly indicating aaireacuation of their coon toy. As I had ~red yesterday the enemy retiring towards Mr. the Krems., I saw that he had'. aban ß dted we t m sad I armed Lind:Col. Fordyce to sea his brigade at daybreak yesterday, to follow the enemy down through the pares of the forest. Leaving LiraL-Col. Michels brigade in position at the head of ttos Wellarldoef, I moved the Cape Mounted Rifles Gad two pas imalAstillery down the valley of the Blink wow, in mar i• operate against the enemy in the lower At mid-day I found Lieutenant-Colonel Fordyce peened down the Kromme heights and through the tsion, esenieg it is ell direction, but he had seen nothing of the many easseeng a few straggling Win. The very ispolest pins race nomerees duties that have engaged Guy aelseilisa den my upset of the 17th instant have not modeled my goading a mere detailed report of them ope rations oath this date, which I trust the anamander-in aid will meow. The result of than swessrfai mem lions has whin me to dispense with the farther esnisas of LiostssmthCeinsi Neshitrs inn The amatry remedy easo et pied by Nemeth twee emempless a mesa. onset with tan thee sc= t mis s et esothy Ithenested mins. sesirdisi . Adige for an lbsz e ar=ted by themesot = Nl t rocks, eneyese a very Orme Is thiamin of the next these or four den I shall have fully anestithed whether the wary has finally abetheasd thaw heothishis Swamies, width will swan* me M allow Lieet-Oellmei Webers beige& to ratan to K Wil lbws Tows. Bat the cleaned* ef this is ell mash importance, the boldly' it strome re t t r i s I dare set venom lar g e and I ban 7 thee pent. We nth tisiva the man from ell Ms positione, and bees hthuniked ea end powered wareidese of all hie ea eampreesta By replete Am Lair wen's, I isms that the iota who an now warm abut am is athedsose ea the tsssmisd,wiloot asmet pet en and who Nell labs thy orsetheus ; haplisit relines enact he pnesd sub dellethats. I ban to express m warmest thanks to Lieut.-Colonel Wheel end Lion Fordyce. ensnandieg brines ; es vii es le Lint-oth Nesbitt, be the thin ersomer in width be bee send es the enemy's heals l end to every either sod ram engaged is the most impertaat and ar duous seniew—l have, de., H. Sonoma?, Motor-Oeseral. Lieut.-Col OlooteC.H., Lim William's Town. 11.. _ Caatp,itlinkwater, 9th Nov., 1861. 84,—1 have the beseue w aegweist yea, far th• iaieester ties of hie steamy tie annewilleriswih4 that la se eselease with the orrempueseie had dews ha the weeleeed sesseenadam, I assembled the Imps at the weevil points laillsoted as the Know lams, as the sondes of the Idt bet ems a.ra. I theureed Limai•Colonel Sutton's erneeled force sairviii bum the Bush Neck. In the mess time, Lien olonsd Fordyce had, agreeably to mg previous direolisme, placid the troop' of his brigade lit position on the dikes, and occupying the belt of bash *el intersects the eneing's position, by four companies of the 74th Highleadees, supported by two companies of Ithe 117th Kollsoust. ark r Lket.-Col. Percival. This ar eselgement he ems to cover the advance of the demehmeate of Memssd levies, which I had directed Liorediel. Puss, to rove up by the Waterkloof. While emer sieri ffisr ve =reelb into effect, I regret that Lieut. CaL a aortal wound by tie emery, eta 'Mord Mtenget Nor mite as the utters lea Orr pod der • body of the emery appear to bare osseestratod es rot point, but were driven from it is the moat spirited mamme by the 74th Highlanders, not, however, I lament te my, M esseust of the strong position, without suffering SWIM 1111111111111 SSW (Lieut. Carey), two saiate, and twe sod Pb Wog officer og killed, and one ( Lieut. Clor tan :MI lit i llllls wounded. The 74th Highl an d e rs, driving the enemy from this part of the hour Zia reeks, and holding the position until I with deem e t= t he afternoon. usui el Sutton's detachment passed up the Waterklesf, r far u Mr. Brown's place, and came out at the hotpath by Mundell's farm, without seeing anything of the =say. The left of the position was in the meantime atoopiai Try Judiciously by Lient..Colonel Yarborough, 118•11111101116 9let nreggi • sn t. I also moved Captain Robin eft's MN opposite the Waterkloof, where captrs labium epsodeil tkem with good effect. A dense he aerie ea at 7 p.m., I withdrew the troops and formed es my own pugilism without further less, the enemy imai at all. LINO. Col. Michel had, is accordance with die previous arrangements, employed the fore* under bin orders in securing the lower ridges of the Kromme as far ae Mr. Blakeway's farm, but met with no opposition. Observing some parties of the enemy occupying the forest and the rocks at the point of ascent from Fuller's Hoek, I CrW7 ' OPERATIONS OF THE. TROOPS IN THE WATER- K WO F . Oustat. sorsamrt's IMPORTS. Bivouse,Blinkwater, Oct. ht, 1861. Sir,—Since my communication to you of the 17th instant, I have the honour to acquaint you, for the commander-in chiefs Information, that I have been incessantly sampled in carrying out the necessary operations for expelling the row:MOlVEMPlagen.inZMiligl EVENING, JANUARY 7, 1852. communiested oa the evening of the 6th instant with Lent-- Colonel Michel, requesting him to mauve his form up the ridges to that point on the mor n i ng o f th e 7th, to co-operate with my own force. The night having been exceedingly foggy and wet, I did not more until 7 the following morning,—at which hour I marched the native treat. and lingoes in advance to the point above Fuller's Hoek, supported by the 91st Rept.— detaching Captain Aylitni Lingoes, supported by two com panies of the 12th Regiment, to the Lead of the Waterkloof. Having placed the guns under Captain Robinson and Lieut. Field, so as to cover the rocks, they were opened with ap parently great effect by these officers. Ihe Levin and lingoes, entering the bu.h, supported by the 91st Regt. and • company of the European levy under Captain Stevenson, drove the enemy from the bush at that point, who kept up a smart tire. Three of the 91st Regiment were here wounded, and two lingoes slightly so. At 10 a.m., Lieut.-Celonel Michel's brigade having as cended th e ridges, advanced on the corner of the belt of bush and pushed forward, scouring the forest as they proceeded. The enemy firing several well-directed shots from some points of the rocks, but with little effect, except in one place, where 1 regret to say Captain Devenish, of the 13eaufort West Levy, received • serious wound in the bead. The object of clearing the extreme point of the belt having been effected, I requested Lieut.-Colonel Michel to halt his men, to refresh. In the meantime I recalled the troops and levies from the several points they had occu pied, and again formed camp on my position. These operations have shown me that the enemy are still occupying, though in small parties, several strong points of the K rotume Range, fur the purpose of marauding, and probably also fbr taking core of their wounded, who I sus pect are more numerous than I am able distinctly to report them, front the rugged and bushy nature of the ground where the contest was maintained. From 15 to 20 were this day certainly killed—four Kollin and one Hottentot having been slain by the Kat River levy—besides • good many of the 74th, and the company of the European levy. On our side one man of this latter force and one of the Kat River levy having also been slightly wounded. At 2 p.m. • storm of hail, accompanied by violent rain, set is, which lasted during the whole night. On the morn ing of the Bth, I marched the Mance:ens detachments ' under tiie command of Captain Stevenson back to their stations, and returned with the remainder of the troops to this camp. I have, &c. H. fiethansistr, Major-Oeneral. Lt.-Col. Cloete, C. 8., K.H., D.M.M.-Ovneral. GENERAL ORDERS. Head-quarters, King William's Tuwn, Nov. 13, 1661. 1. The commander-in-chief has this day revived the re port from Major-General Somerset that the gallant and en terprising Lieut.-Colonel Fordyce, 74th Highlanders, has fallen in action with the cm roy, on the 6th instant. His loss to her Majesty's service is a severe one, and his excellency conceives he cannot eapress his regret in terms more appli cable than in the division order of Major-General Somerset, which is herewith published. Gallantly thus falling in the service of his Queen and country will perpetuate the me mory of Lieut.-Colonel Fordyce. The service has also to regret the loss of Lieut. Carey, 74th Highlanders—a rising aad promising officer. FATAL FIGIIT WITH NEGROES AT LAGOS. At the moment that the Screw Company's Caps mail packet Harbinger was leaving Sierra Leone for Bar land, on the 17th December, her Majesty screw-ship Niger, 14, Commander Heath, arrived from Lagos, and bear/4 her, with dispatches from Commodore Bruce for llaetral. These despatches, it was understood, contain official law. nation to the Admiralty of a desperate and fatal Ilibe with the negroes at Lagos by the Niger ship's- - which affair Messrs. Dyer and Hall, mates of the Ingot, were killed, and nine men were also killed and wounded. It appears that for some time there has been a display of stoma very between those on the coast who are &thew of vegpssaleg slavery, and a party whose occu pies hes pan" by the activity of the cruisers in putting lINSISIMO Mine trade. The former party have been scalous k kik amisisvours to p t the latter from bringing dews Item the interior to the coast market; and the Maven, on the other hand, have attempted by every means to coerce our friends, until at length they have come to blows. The Niger, cruising on the coast, determining on a against the blacks, landed her boats to protect our allies and to drive off their enemies, when • bloody encounter ensued, and the seamen and marines of the Niger, being overpowered by numbers, were obliged to retreat, fighting their, way to their boats, with the disastrous casualties above reported. The commander-in-chief, Commander Bruce, in the Pene lope, 16, steam-frigate; Captain Lyeter, with the Sealers, 8, and one or two other men-of-war, arrived off Lagos, from Ascension, after the fight, and remaining there, despatched the Niger to Sierra Leone, to complete provisions, and to take down a detachment to the West India regiment, whoa it was expected the commodore would commence active operations against the slave-dealing wretches, and, it is hoped, will inflict upon them such a chastisement es shall avenge the deaths of the gallant officers and seamen of the Niger, and shall finally put a finishing stroke to slave deal ing in that quarter of the mast. THE AUSTRALIAN DIGGINGS. The ship Honduras, arrived off Dover, has brought Port Philip papers to the let of September, containing the most recent accounts of the gold-seeking opera tions in that district. Tho Honduras has brought home the first samples from tho Clunes Diggings at the Pyrenees. Further discoveries of gold had been made at the Victoria, Buningyong, and Banke's Marsh Diggings, just before the Honduras sailed, and fears were entertained that the whole of the labouring population would leave for the mines in the summer, and thus cause considerable difficulty in securing the next clip and harvest. A letter, dated Clune's gold diggings, Saturday, August 23 , says: Since last week little work has been done here owing to the inclemency of the weather, and the creeks flooded by the excessive and general rain. The Clune's people have hardly been at work at all, and, althoughte i . i & n : was fa vourable, few seemed inedined le make a on what is generally a broken day. dens sew polies have arrived on the ground, bat the poplars is aarerkelly searinly altered, as several poles= bays eberlased the pursuit. To-day was ear membobidisp, mad. se and, I ern at the " bank." The pried* trureerea wee the sole by Spriggs' party of two, of 91 MINN% the pause of about three Weeks' work, though of AM time ems days were wasted. This is, perhaps, the peat= PlOes which has been met with by may oa the prod ; they have been 'inertly = sr soil,their there alpha, but trinity that geed pin, are sew prim scare, owl di ell Is led. It eagbd to be mistimed Ant these area bar be.. able to pins Sisk vesiivided eltreera le the week, as the wife of em at Alm be. leaked tar Moir dinsentle eons/arts, and washed aserty ea erre ea private riewat late the bl Etreds were ear eas about the preshar tioa sad ia tended Illemee res. Ira surprised to lad that so boa • tee se Ste. per ease* les s bre impseed*vill have the eibet et err away all the led patting a step te asheatisa. rimy mw an ere* more than this anommt, and few will have eserra wages left to trim ear Negri for it. the peepriwho so ;Precipitately lea here ter Buninyoug have reteraed; they lived ia that seigblsowabood, end, bear ing the statammts that wife put forth of this richness of the = the? *sir scarcely baps and away. They ea new returat4 sod this _ si mple test speaks volutes ter the eireareey my spires be supublished, sad Berta the 611111MINSII reports lky have bra Biro I latesied te have pre to IlemlaFg but ea I leers that aro three hat tetra abet I was there, and se I have no wish te honk my one up, I shall defer my visit. Already this week I have been at Climes, Barn Beak, and Buninyong, at each within three days, halides other necessary journeyings. Wednesday, Aug. M. I expected that I should have bad to record a temporary lull in the proceedings here, owing to the absence of some on a visit at Buninyong and the altered arrangements consequent on the dissolutions of partnership, and the leaving of some, and the purchase of their outfits by others but when I arrived on the ground, on my return, I found all business suspended, and the camp in oonfbeios, owing to • sudden flood arising from the rains on Suoday and Monday nights, which have filled the creeks, and rendered many of them impanable. Mr. Cameron's creek, where the diggings are, had risen to an unusual height, and car ried away the soil which the industrious diggers had brought down ready for washing ; the water presented the appearance of a small sea, on which it bore cradles, he. like • fleet of miniature No ah's: arks ; they were, however, all recovered. In consequence of this, very little has been done, in feet business has been almost at a stand still for the last two or three days. One man who crossed just be fore I came on the ground, had • narrow escape of being washed away bone and all. I have seen • gentleman from Becalm' Marsh, wino toils me that he has found gold there ; he Weeded be arks further search, and it is not improbable that pertisulan will have reassured by the time reedy. this. A diseevery d geld ea the is talked of here, and I us eadeavoarlag to term set the truth, but have not yet arrived at the bottom of the well, where she is said to lie perdue. Dracoveßv or Two DEAD CHILDREN IN FLEET- rrasee.—Lut night, at nine o'clock, u police-constable 362, of the City foes*, oommeneed duty, his attention wail drawn to a large bundle lying in the passage of No. 6, Pleydell-street, Fleet-street. On proceeding to the spot, he discovered the bodies of two male children enclosed in a kind of white sheet ; he at once conveyed them to Dr. Hutchinson, of Farringdon-street, who pronounced both to be full-born infanta; life however, was quite eztinot. No clue his been gained of the perpetrators of this unnatural crime. gbe Court. WINDSOR, Jaw. 6. Mrs. Harcourt was the only addition to the Royal Dinner Party last evening. Her Majesty's private hand WIS in attendance at the Castle in the evening, and performed the following *eke Ron : Overture, "Itirmesit" Mare, Meet act "11 tie,, Olnyaand" . Wens and Aria " turybelle" (WeetUus, Ballet The Queen walked in the Home-park and Slopes this morning. The Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, and younger members of the Royal Family took their accustomed walk ing and pony exercise. Prince Albert went out shooting this morning, attended by Lord A. l'aget, Colonel lion. N. Hood, and Colonel Seymour. Colonel Cruufurd, commending 2nd battalion Cirenadier °nerds, had the hoauur of accompanying the Prince. Iter Majesty will hold a Privy Council on Saturday nest, the 10th inst., at Windsor Castle. The ministers and officers of state were summoned yesterday to attend the council. Mr. Abbott Lawrence, the American minister, transacted business yesterday at the Foreign-oilier. Earl Grey arrived in town yesterday morning from a visit to the Marquis of Lansdowne, at his seat, Dowood parte, Wiltshire. Mr. Cunard had an interview with the noble earl yesterday at the Colonial-office. The Right Hon. T. Milner Gibson, M.P., Mr. R. M. Fun, M.P., and a deputation had an interview with Lord John 'tassel' yesterday at his official residence in Downing street. Ilia Excellency 11. Van de Weyer left town on Sunday for Belgium. Sir James Graham has arrived in London. PRINCE ALBERT has intimated to the Govern ment School of Mines the intention of the Prince of Wales to grant two annual exhibitions (to be named the l)uke of Cornwall's Exhibitions"), the amount of each being sufficient to defray the expenses of the course of instruction at that institution. DEIAY OF TUE TROOPS FOR TILE CAPE.—The Megiera steamer has put into Plymouth in a thoroughly disabled state, unable to proceed with the let battalion rifle brigade to the Cape of Good Hope. Mom last nlaht's Gazette.) FOREIGN -OFFICE, J.t'i. I.—The Queen has been graciously pleased to appoint Lord Augustus Loftus, now l'aid Attaché to Her Majesty's Legation at Stuttgardt, to be Secretary to Iler Majesty's Legation at that Court; also to appoint George Frederick Herman, Esq., now Bri tish Vice-Consul at Hymnal, to be Iler Majesty's Consul at Tripoli. WarrnuAtt, JAL 2.—Theßight lion. Sir George Grey, Bart., G.C.13., one of Her Majesty's Principal Secre taries of State, has appointed the undernamed Gentlemen to be Inspectors of Coal Mines in Great Britain: Thomas Wynne, Esq., William Lancaster, En. NATIONAL SCHOOL ASSOCIATION. DEPUTATION TO LORD JOHN RUSSELL. Yesterday a deputation or gentlemen connected with the above association waited upon Lord John Russell, at his official residence in Downing-street. The following are the names of the gentlemen composing the deputation :—Right Hon. T. M. Gibson, M P.; W. J. Fox, Esq., M.P.; Thos. Bailey, Esq., President of the Manchester Chamber of Commerce, Royal Commissioner for the Oreat Exhibition, &c.; R. N. Philips, Esq.. Manchester; Absalom Watkin, Esq., J.P., Manchester; Sells Schwabe, Esq., Manchester; Philip Lucas, Esq., Manchester; William Rayner Wood, Eq., Deputy-Lieutenant of the county of Lancaster; Rev. W. F. B alker, M.A. Incumbent of St. James's, Oldham; Rev. S. Davidson, D. D., LL.D., Professor of Biblical Criti cism Lancashire Independent College ; Rey. William M'Kcrrow, D.D., Manchester; Rev. J. R. Beard, D.D., Manchester; Rev. J. A. Baynes, M.A.., Nottingham; Ed ward Swaine, Esq., London; A. S. Aspland, Esq., London ; J. A. Reed, Esq. ' London; J. A. Picton, Esq., Liverpool; and Mr. It. W. Smiles, Scretaty. Mr. T. M. GIBSON, M.P., in introducing the deputation, stated the gentlemen composing it represented various reli gious denominations, and bad combined in the National School Association (or the purpose of promoting a better system of national instruction than that which was unhappily in existenceat present. The mode by which they hoped to succeed was by carrying • measure through parliament which should establish a general system of purely secular instruction. He believed that among its members were clergymen of various religious denominations, and he might add, also, persons who were considered to be of weight and influence in all denominations. He would not trouble the noble lord by going into the details of their pla;,asl;e ." were many gentlemen present fully competent to address his lordship on that subject, but merely say of the system proposed, that it was not intended to be a compulsory sys tem, but merely one enabling the ratepayers so to distribute the burden of national instruction, as that it should be sue tained by a rate, rather than by voluntary subscriptions, as at present. The plan had already been adopted in the matter of museums and other establishments which were germane to the present question, so that the charge of novelty could not be made against their proposal. But although the association proposed that a rate should be substituted for voluntary subscription, they also proposed that a majority of ratepayers should have power to resist its introduction into • district if they thought that their educational wants were already fully supplied. The gentlemen by whom ho was accompanied were anxious to bring their plan under the notice of the government, in the hope of a favourable reception, and they deemed themselves well founded in that hope, be cause they had received the support of nearly all the reli gious denominations, were supported by numerous peti tions, and, moreover, conceived their plan to be based on the soundest principles of justice. It did not profess to be a plan for a complete education, but merely one for secular or primary training, which should prepare the mind better to receive and understand the great truths and principles of religion and morality. lie would now give way to Mr. Bailey, who would, with his lordship's permission, go mon into the details of the plan. Mr. BAZ LEY said that latterly the opinion of the country had been rapidly leaning to some general system of education, which should embrace all religious denomina tions; and it was also the opinion of a vast melority that the object would be best promoted by the establishment of a borough or parish rate, to be applied to the support of such a system of education as might be received in by all. But although they were anxious to establish a system of secular instruction, they were by no means indifferent to religious instruction for the rising ge aeration, their idea being that the schoolmaster should riot be • religious teacher. It occurred to them that the school master might give secular knowledge, while religious in ' eduction, which was amply provided for s might follow ; and that an important object might be achie ved,il the ignorant people were taught to understand the laws they were called upon to obey, and otherwise made of society. Ile knew that in his lord ints2raiimill useful members lord ship he was addreseing a friend of education, he seed not remind his lordship how lamentable were *a debts.. vies of the people in that respect. The allaaiatima a scheme which they thought would week ssYsfiMwfy They did not propose to invade re li giose he in terferewith the religious teachers of Mho, Chris tians, but they said to those gentlemen, " duty, and let us endeavour to remove the lamentable tca that prevails." They therefore hoped that his lordship would give some attention to the subject, with • view of proposing a comprehensive system to parliament. Although they placed the dra ft of a bill in his lordship's hands, the detai were by no means perfect, their anxiety being rather to dwell upon the principle with • view to its adoption by government, and the initiation by them of • comprehen sive measure, irrespective of party or political feeling, and applicable to all denominations in the country. It was a fortunate circumstance that those who were the greatest rata payers were the most willing to pay an educational rate. In Lancashire the largest rate payers approved of this scheme, and the various denominations thew looked upon ft without fear. By their plan • certain portion of the day would be devoted to religious instruc tion ; and they further proposed that existing schools should be absorbed in such a way as that their usefulness should not be interfered with. They did not contemplate any great innovations; their only wish being to gather in the little outcasts of society, and to give them such elementary instruction as should. enable them to understand the principles of religion, which it was the duty of their clergymen to inculcate. These were their leading principles ' for which they hoped the favourable consideration of th e government. Dr. kI.KERROW said that, although the scheme of the association was a secular one, it was by no means op posed to religion—on the contrary, it was calculated to pro mote it by inculcating those great moral principles which formed somewhat a part of religion. The association had en deavoured to harmonise the feelings of all by appropriating • certain portion of each day to separate religious instruc tion. .They provided " that neither doctrinal religion, nor anything in support of, or in opposition to, the peculiar tenets of any sect of Christians, shall be taught or enforced in any of tho said schools ; but in order to afford to the scholars the opportunity of attending the instructions of teachers of religion, the committee of each district shall set apart hours in every week, during which hours the schools shall be closed ; but no influence shall be used by the committee, or any master, mistress , or teacher employed by them, to compel the attendance of the scholars on any such doctrinal or sectarian instruction ; nor shall any dis ability be incurred by the non-attendance of scholars on such instruction ; and in came any ratepayer of the district, or the parent, guardian, or next friend of any scholar, shall conceive that doctrinal religion or sectarian opinions have been taught in any such school, or that influ ence has been used by the committee, or by the muter, mistress, or teacher, to compel attendance on s uc h d oc t r i na l I or secta rian instruction, he may make his complaint to the committee, who shall fo r thwith inquire into the same, and make such order as they may think fit ; and in case such complainant shall be dissatisfied with the order or decision of the committee, he may appeal to the board, whose duty it shall be to see that the provisions of this act are not in fringed, and if necessary to make order accordingly, and thereupon it shall be the duty of any person or body on whom such order may be made, to obey the same." The Rev. W. F. WALKER, incumbent of St. James's, Oldham, said that the plan adopted in private schools was to get apart a portion of the day for religious instruction. Now they (the association) thought that by taking it from the over-tasked schoolmaster and I. aving it to the ministers of religion, the cause would be better promoted. lie would not have interfered in this movement had he not felt as a minister of the postal that the scheme *mold put into his hands means of training the young which he dal nut now Cae. He had, of course, access to the S un d ay - sc h oo l s; t i ;i ll is Sundays were so full occupied that he was obliged to delegate the duty to the Sunday school teachers. They were a most valuable class ; but he wished, also, to have an opportunity of giving instruction in the week days. It was on these grot nth that he was anxious to impress the advantages of the plan upon the government. Mr. LUCAS said that he was a member of the Jewish persuasion, and fully concurred with the proposition. The members of his faith objected to schools in which their children were compelled to read a traeslation of the Scrip tures of which their parents did not approve, but were quite prepared to accept secular education on the plan proposed. Mr. ASPLAND said that the Society of Friends took a deep interest in this most important question, and they did not think there was anything in the leading prosisions of the present bill to which they could object. They pelt, however, a strong objection to religious instruction tieing paid for out of the public purse, and bad published a pro test against such an arrangement. Mr. WOOD said that the scheme was consistent with the principles of civil and religious liberty, of which his lord ship had been ever the consistent champion. Withreferet as to the present association, he had carefully watched its pro ceedings, and he believed that the measure now submitted was entirely in accordance with the principles to which the Marquis of lansilowne had given his sanction. Dr. DAVIDSON, as a teacher of religion in the congregational body, saw nothing in the 'imposed scht me inconsistent with the principles held by that body. Mr. FOX. M.P., said that the plan was almost identical with that which hod received the government sanction in Ireland with such happy results. They had beard a great deal of "justice to Irel.,nd ;" he hoped that now the ques tion of "justice to Emzlanol" would receive the favourable consideration of the government. Lord J. aussmr.t, said that he had very few remarks to make on the subject. In the first place, he would say that in his opinion the country were indebted to the gentle • men of the association for making an effort in behalf of education. Ile had long felt that the state of education in thii country was such as they had no reason to he proud of--indeed, that it was such as they had reason to be ashamed of. Therefore, even if they were foiled in their attempt, they had earned the gratitude of the country by their efforts. With rtganl to anything further, he niust be understood as not expressing the opinion of the government, the member, of which had not came to any di eision on the subject, and indeed he might add that any remarks ho made himself must be talc( a as subject to further MI-Ilion. The plan of a great scheme of national education, to be under taken by the government, was one that re pined did'', con sideration. The cabinet of Lord Melbourne bad proposed what they thought would be admitted to be an improvement in education, and it was only carried in the Commons by a majority of two. Sir It. Peel's cabinet proposed another in which they made concessions to oectorp, and they were, after all, obliged to abandon it. These facts showed the dif f iculties that lay in the way of any government plan. His own opinion was that the question was advancing to wards a solution, but he knew it was the opinion of Lord Lansdowne• as it was his own, that it was not yet in a state for government interference, sod that undertaking it pre. maturely would be more likely to mar the object than to promote it. With regard to this particular scheme lie did not wish to say much shout it, but, if government under took it, they must consider what the state of the country was, and what the state of public opinion. When Sun day schools were the only national medium of instruction the British and Foreign School Society attempted a bitter system of daily schools, and made instruction in the Bible, by way of extract, the basis of their teaching. Subse quently the National Society insisted on teaching the liturgy; and then the Wesleyan 'schools insisted on the whole Bible ; to these lie must add the congregational schools, and all this chewed that the tendency of public opinion has been to combine secular with religious instruc tion. Although the system might be changed, they must not omit considering that these schools existed. The bill proposed to combine the schools ; that was matter of de tail, but his opinion was that the general policy of the country was to combine literary with religious instruction. Perhaps he might be prejudiced, connected as he was with She British and Foreign Society, but that was Lis opinion. Mr. Fox bad said that the plan was similar to the national systemic Ireland which had been so successful, but he thought it hardly followed that what was the best scheme for Ireland would also be best for this country. Ito thought that was a matter that might be disputed. Ono thing he saw with great satisfaction was that although there had been a protest by the Society of Friends in Man chester, the great body of the ratepayers there were willing to be taxed for the promotion of education. Ile thought that that was a very encouraging circumstances. He wished only further to say that he hoped they would go on with their scheme, although of course he did not pledge himself to any particular course, lie wished them to go on, because he thought that even failure in such a course must do good. Although Sir J. Graham's measure had failed and produced a great deal of clamour, it was still produc tive of large and beneficial results. For himself, he did nut hold that there was any hostility betwei n secular and religious instruction. His opinion was that if the country were to say there must be secular instruction alone, so far from that toeing hostile to religion, it would only make the pupils more capable of understanding the ministers of religion, and the great truths, the love of God and of our neighboor, and the moral duties, which, although not the Christian religion themselves, yet were important portions of it, and their inculcation prepared the I mind for its reception. Therefore, in any objections he made to this plan, ho did not wish to be understood as saying that there was any hostility between secular and religious instruction. Dr. BEARD observed that their plan did not necessarily exclude the Bible. It was left for the local committee to decide. The ratepayers were in favour of this plan, and also the people, 6.5,000 of whom had signed petitions in its favour. The deputation then withdrew. 1 THE ENGINEERS AND THEIR EMPLOYERS. No progress was made yesterday towards a settle ment of the deplorable dispute between the operative engineers and their employers. It was mentioned in ye*. terday's Express, that the Amalgamated Society bad forwarded an official communication to the Central Associa tion of Muter Engineers, expressing a desire to meet the executive of that body, with • view, if possible, to settle the existing differences. The executive committee of tho Central Association met yesterday, and took that communi cation into consideration; but, after a lengthened sittiug, no conclusion, it is understood, was arrived at. The council of the Amalgamated Society also met last night, and, without waiting the reply of the Central Association to the proffer of an amicable conference, passed the fol lowing resolutions The council of the Amalgamated Sickly submit the following resolutions to their members, and request that branch meetings will be called as soon as possible, and the votes taken ma returned to the council. lit. That 10,0001. of the funds of the Amalgamated Society shall be paid over to such number of trustees, not lees than six, as are selected by the executive (such trustees to be men in whom public confidence will be placed in consequence of their position in society), and to advance the same from time to time, to managers appointed by the executive (such appointments to be afterwards confirmed by the society) for the purpose of carrying on the business of engineers, machinisue, 2nd. These advances, es well asothers which the trustees may obtain from other sources, shall be secured by a mort gage of all the plant and stock-in-trade employed in such huskies' to the said trustees who shall have power to give priority to any such other advances over sums advanced out of the funds of the Amalgamated Society. " 3rd. The conditions of work under which such business is carried on shall be such as are approved of by the execu tive of the Amalgamated Society from time to time, with the view of giving employment to the greatest possible number of members of the trade who are out of employ ment for the time being, consistently with the stability of the business and the welfare of the workmen employed." A message was yesterday received by the workmen from Manchester, stating that, in addition to the three firms before mentioned which had posted notice of their inten tion to close their factories on the 10th, the clime course had since been followed by Messrs. Higgins and Co., Messrs. Sharp Brothers, Fairbairn, Elce and Cottam, Marsden and ILewis. The firms which harKneither posted nor given ter. bal notices were M'Gregor anti Co.'s, Crighton's, Flochton's, Galloway's, Gore's, Gad's, Lynch and Neglish's, Briggs and Mather's, Mather's, Glasgow's, &he's, t aughan's, and Beseech's. It must not be understood from this that it is not the intention of these firms to co-operate with the other masters, since they hold themselves at liberty to discharge their workmen without any notice whatever. A communica tion from Bristol, stated that the firm of Stothard, Slaughter, and Co., had determined to close on the 10th. The effect of this step, on the part of that firm, would throw about 400 persons out of employ. A very considerable number of the society's men are en in the different railway workshops and steamboat factories of the kingdom. There are about 000 members in the shops of the North Western and its branches, and not lees than 120 of them at Stratford. It is stated that ono railway company in the west of England had offered to pay their men double time for Sunday work, and at the rate of time and a half for all other over-work. Last night it was said that a number of trades, representing 2,000 men, heel offered support to the society to the extent of is. per week per man. TILE CHARGE OE CARD-CHEATING AT BRIGHTON. —LEive.s, TIM/11/Al.—ln the course of the proceedings in this case before Mr. Justice Brie, at Chambers, during the last week, Mr. Bill, the solicitor for the prosecution, inti mated to that learned judge his intention under the pecu liar skaraminese of the case of applying to the commit ting at Brighton to appoint the chief officer of poltp o that town (Captain Chase) to be the prosecutor instead of Mr. Hamp, and Mr. Justice Erie made the order for the use of tho necessary affidavits for that purpose. The Brighton magistrates being in *canons here to-day Mr. Sill appeared before them, and having explained the circum stances which had satisfied them that Captain Chase should be substituted for Mr. Hump, the magistrates at once ac ceded to the application, and Captain Chase was 1100014 ingly bound over in his recognisance. of 6001. to prostate at the ensuing assizes, and Mr. Sill was at the sow than desired to continue in the conduct of the proeecution. le