The Express. — London, England, 1848-06-08 00:00:00

IIdrERIAL I'AIcLIAMEA : HOUSE 1F COMMONS....-WEDNEIDAT, JUNE 7. The BraAm took du, chair shortly after 12 o'clock. PRIVATE DUSTMEN& RISPORT CONRAptUlitli,l l l4neVill;;; - 6;rporation Waterwor Acta Amendment (No. I) 11111. THIRD RRADlNGS.—Deunmeller Railway; Crest Northern Rail. way (tale of Annolme blatenalou) ; Low'. Patent; North and North Western Hallway (Harrow to Reentrant); Oxford. Worerette, and Wolverhampton Railway (so. 2) (I hoSation of Lose, and power to Rhrewahury and Ilircoinglum, and Birmingham, Wolvertumniton, and Dudley Railway Coma mien, to contribute and make amingemenal ; Ntrathtay and Breat lb t a Fatenslon Railway; thlla. LORDS' AKRNDAIENTS CONSlDERED.—ahreisabstry blarket BOL PUBLIC BUSINESS. TETMONS.-By - ;;;;; -. 1,000 realdents in Van Diemen 's land, and a second from aeveral hundred others of fnmilin, resident them against the revival of the nyotent of t rens:, 'motion to that colony, and for the eatablishment there of a legutlative emembly. -Mr. COWAN, Mr. FERGUS, Mr. DUM:AIt, Mr. V. AIAULii, aud Mr. 1111UVERI E, born tat 1.103 fre. church congregations in Scotland, in 00 . 0111' of the Sites far Churches (scotland) MIL -.Mr. COWAN, from Edinburgh, Mr. WU VElti F., from Ktlmarnork Me. T. EGER TON, tram Altrlachare, and Mr. MOsTYN, from Mint, untying for Irgislatite measures to prevent the sale of intoxicating liquors on mindans. -.Me. MUNTL (MIL from Preston, and Mr. W. J. FOX, from Littleborougli, in Lwow . of household suffrage, vote by ballot, electoral divisions, and triennial parliaments.--Mr. COWAN, from thr operative bakers of Leith, for it committee to inquire into their grievance.-Mr. Iff'SCAN and Mr. HAMILTON, agtinst the Diplo matic litlations with Mime Pill -Mr. !MART trout the magistretee end Tote. Council of Dumfrins, against certain pnivisimus of the Lunatic Asylums (Scotland) BILL-Mr. O. HAMM* ON, Irmo the Royal Ir-oh Aoitileiny, and from the Royal Dublin society, in favour of the :scientific Socie:ies Bill. - Mr. J. M.ITIIESON, against the Marriage (Scotland) MIL -The Earl of LINCOLN, from Falkirk, in favour of the Law of Entails (Scotland) Hill; elm it petition from Falkirk, in favour of the extension of the Public Ilsnith Pill to Scot land. -Mr. C titDWELL, from the inhubitaints of Liverpool, sipped by the mayor on behalf of a public meeting, in favour ail *reduction In the public expenditure, and far the extension of the probate and leer, duties to red proicrly. -Mr. Serjeant TAT.FOl'Ittl, from certain inhabitants of the borough of Wallingford, praying the house teachers. the i 31.3 will respect to the qualifications of its members.- Mrs IL DRVMMOND, against the schoolmasters (scotl tod) MIL -- Mr. F. SCOT r, from woollen-manufacturer/1 of Lem* Bradford, Stroud, !Lahti:. Rol:dale, and other place', an favour of all extensive in &lei° of emigration :o the Australian colonies, with u view to in c.:MR the cultivation Ll ward; and from Southampton, In favour of compensation to the eon and the family of Lieut .Col. Shraorel for hie warlike inv. anoint -Mr. C. IMCCE, from Bairn, m favour of the Cllllllll,ooo 01 the stamp Maws in Scotland. GREAT NORI'IIERN RAILWAY (ISLE OF AXIIOLNIF.) BILL. This bill having been road a third time, Lord LIALWAY moved to add a clause, by way of rider, to the effect of making at compulsory on the company to _complete the main line between Llainaborough sad Bewley, w;thill the period allowed by the act for tiro completion of t h e , ettension lice. e clause we/ opposed by Mr. Christopher, Mr. G. Ber keley, Mr. Pettey, and Mr. Greene; and supputted by Capt. Daum/. be. Tee 1. oust disided—For the clangs Against it The clause was consequently lost, and the bill was passed. EDUCATION -GRAMM AR SCHOOLS. Mr. E WART inquired whether it was the intention of the government to introduce any measure this session for the reformation of the grammar schools in this country— and whether it was intended on moving toe vote for educa tion to make any statement on the subject of the progress made in the education of the people? Sir G. GREY 'aid that while he a Imitted that the et gula tion of the grammar schools required early attention, he was not able to promise that .iuy measure with that 01;i. ct could be introduced an the prehnt gallon. In answer to 'he second q motion, he had to say that it was intended by the govern ment to make a statement on moving the education est mated. REGISTRATION OF ELECTORS (IRELAND) BILL. Mr G. A. HAMILTON inquired when the Registration of Electors and the Franchise (Ireland) Bilis would be pro ceeded with ? Sir G. GREY rcpli.d that his noble friend at the head of the government wou.d on Friday. when he moved the ad journment of the h.nise for the Whitsuntide holiday., state the order is ...Web he praposed to take the p.blic business after the recess. NAVIGATION LAWS. Lord NATION .bked what would be the business taken on Friday. Str G. GREY said, if the debate on the instructions moved by the ritht hoe gentleman (Mr. Herrin) was closed to-morrow (this dal), which no doubt it would. his noble friend (Lord J. Russell) would propose his resolutions with respect to the navigation laws on Friday. THE CASE OF MR. MITCHEL. Sir W. VEHNkill wished to put a question to the right hon. baronet the Secretary for the Home Department. lie wished to knot • hether he hail heard, or if there was any truth in the report, that John 'Mitchel. when put on board the Shearwater reau vessel t t be conveyed to spike Island. had been Patten:vied by the officers of the ve-e,i, plac. d at their table, and partook of their mesa, and had been treated on board not as a tinvicted felon, but as a passenger ? Ile (kir W. Verner) should be sorry to stand is the way of proper attention being paid to a person iu Mitchel's position, but be could not understand why he, in the situat nn of a convicted Moo, should he placed at the table of officers in her Majesty's service. 1 Hear, hear.) Sir 0. GREY was afraid he could not give the hon. mem ber any specific information on the sunject. All he (Sir G. Gr. y) knew was, that Mitchel was placed en board the Shearwat• r br ender of the Lard-Lieutenant, to be conveyed to Spike Island, which was a convict depot, and that the Shearwater made the resew there in one raiflas fas k (Sir G. Grey) had no formal or official information on the matter to wttch the question referred, but certainly a report had reachid him that one of the officers of the Shearwater had invited Mitchel to breakfast on the morning the vessel was on her passage ; hut he was also informed this officer wan not the commander of the vessel (who was only a lieutenant), but was, he believed, the assistant-suracon. He (Sir G. Grey) ha d called the attention of his cools friend the Fint Lord of the Admiralty to the statement of the occurrence as be had received it, and he had no doubt his noble friend had taken tho a measures which he thought were lit to be pur sued in the matter. (Hear, hear.) OAME CERTIFICATES FOR KILLING HARES BILL. On the further consideration of the report of this bill, Mr. ELLIOT nriv.d an amendment on the first clause, to the effect of requiring that the leave given by landswners to other. to kill game on their Linda should be given in writing. Mr. COLVILE objected to the amendment, as calculated to frustrate the whole object of the bill. To make such written leave 1.-gal it would be necessary it should be written on a stame. Capt. HARRIS supported the amendment. Mr. BUCK could not but regard this Lill as the first step to the annihilatim of the game laws ; it tan a free-trade measure in disguise; and next they should have free trade in partridges and grouse proposed by some hon. member op pm* As in corn, so in game, the landed interest would he overthrown by biting in the thin edge of the wedge. t" Oh," and lairatiter.) Mr. CHRISTOPHER supported the amei.dment. Sir G. ORbY hoped the hon. meter of the bill would not contact this point. The amendment was then agreed to. Mr. COLVILE then moved the nmieeon from clause 1 of the words " by any means a .ve as hereinafter excepted." As it stood, the clause prevented the killing of bates by shooting; and this would only tend to encourage illicit modes of destroying game. Sir G. GREY thought the oto: , ,ion proposed would be immaterial, as the fourth clause set - add tit ta qualify the per mission to kill hares. When that clause came to he consi dered he wool I support the removal of the re.triction. Nothing was more absurd than to give the farmer the right of destroying both rabbits and hares, with power to shoot the former but not the latu r. (Hear.) Mr. G. BERKELEY was opposed to the permission of shooting ham as it would be the means of putting a large number of deadly weapons into the hands of the peasantry. To talk of a boon to the tenantry was out of the question ; for no boon could be given them without the permi.sion of the landlords, who, whatever the law might exact, would prohibit the shooting of hares on pain of expelling the tenants from their farms. Col. SIBTHORP thought the bill wholly unnecessary end bad in principle. Capt. HARRIS was in favour of the permission to shoot . . Mr. H. BERKELEY desired to tee free trade in game as in everything else. He would support the free sale of game, and the right of every man to the birds suit beasts which he bred and till. He was opposed to this motion, which rested on an assumed distinction between poaching by the gun and by the snare. They were equally immoral, but the former gave rise to far more fatal affrays than the other. By per mitting the peasants to go about armed the most disastrous and demoralising consequences might ensue, as every man behind a hedge might have a gun in his hand. Sir W. JOLLII. FE was opposed to the permission to shoot by night. Mr. S. LRAWFORD defended the tenantry from the imputation shot they would make a bad use of arms. Mr. CHRISTOPHER opposed the motion. The house then divided—For the motion 77 Against it 22-65 The clause as amended was then agreed to. On the 3rd clause, relating to the keeping of bounds and beagles, _ Mr. ELLIOT moved an amendment, excepting the owners of such dogs from the non -liability to take out game certificates. AIG r a conversation the amendment was withdrawn. Sir J. TROLLOI'E moved the omission of certain words from the clause which relate , to the destroying of hares by poison. After a few words from Mr. F. Mart.; the amendment was withdrawn. Sir W. JOLLIFF'E moved the addition of the words " by night " tnclause 4, with the view of limiting the shooting of hares to the daytime. The great evils of the game laws had arisen from she use of fire-arms by night ; and if the hill were allowed to pose in its present, form, the mod serious consequences might he anticipated from the general permis sion of the use of arms. Mr. G. BERKELEY opposed the amendment. The house divided.—For the motion Against it lB-00 Sir W. JOLLIFFE moved the addition of further words defining the duration of the night, which were agreed to. Oa the motion that the bill be engrossed, Mr. H. DRUMMOND weed that it be engrossed that day tit months. lie believed that the poacher was nothing more than a peer sportsman, and that it was the love of sport that made him hunt after grime, though he knew there was another class who went under the denomination of poachers, and who were ready to take sheep, or anything else that came in their way. lie thought the: all that was wanted was an amended trespcs act, :and ti.n :iJ of the ga.ua laws altogether, which he considered to be an sot of tyranny, in favour of which not one word could be said. (Hear.) Col. SIIITIIORP said he would oppose the motion of his hon. friend, but on the third reading he would move the rejection of the bill. Mr. 8. CRAWFORD agreed with the hon, member for Surrey (Mr. Drummond) in opposing the bill altogether. He objected to anything in the form of a delusion, and he believed this to be one, for it would not relieve the farmer from any of the oppnesions of the game laws. (lieu.) Mr. ELLIOT differed from the hon. gentlemen who had just spoken. Ile bilk red that the bill would prove bene ficial to small proprietors, who now had no power of avoid ng the mischief done to their crops. Mr. O. BERKELEY said th►t the poor poacher, who was the object of 'empathy of the hon, member for Surrey, was a person capable of committing any crime. He would caution the house nut to motile with the Trespass Aot. If they gave up the game laws, they would be obliged to have re course :o a much severer measure than the present Trespass Act. He believed that the bill contained some provisions that were good, and therefore he hoped the house w.uld pass it. The house divided—For the motion ll Against it GAME CERTIFICATES FOR KILLING HARES (SCOTLAND) BILL. The different clnu•re et this bill passed through committee. Mr. G. BERKELEY propeed an additi mal clause, giving power to the police to &Tryst poachers with guns, bares, or rabbits in thdr pusecte.on. Mr. MACKIINZIII, Mr. ELLIOT, the LOUD AOTOCATS, and Mr. lluxs opp, , Kll the clause, which was withdrawn. The bill was then reported. SCHOOLMASTERS (SCOTLAND) BILL. -- • • ••• . This bill wee withdrawn. PLACES OF WORSHIP SITES SCOTLAND) BILL. Mr. IL COCHRANE rose to oppose the measure, and ho thought that those members who were not acquainted with Scotland should know something of the origin of this free kirk church. Ho could respect persons if they separated from the church on points of doetrine, but the secret of the seemai-dt was that Dr. Candlish and Dr. Coal men wished to become the masters of the Scotch church. Only 190 ministers, or one-third of the whole church, be longed to the tree kirk ; and how many refusals of sites were there, did the house think ? There were only 29 sites re fused, *Wilt 60J sites weragranted. (Hear, hear.) There was no recomme dation on this subject by the committee which sat upon it. The Duke of Richmond was held up to public odium for nut granting Cites, whereas the tact was that he offered sib s for churches. Ile would show Oat the free kirk was associated with all the republan movements in Scotland. (Hear.) He would refer to the evidence given before the committee, and to papers publidied ut der the authority of the free kirk. The h 0.,. gentlem a n then reed two ertieles from the Ira ,tear if a repoblieln tendency, than which he maintained nothing more mischievous, republican, or outrageous was published under the auspices of Mr. Mitchel in Ireland. Mr. F. MAPLE emphatically denied that the Waiters was the organ o: the free church. Mr. COCHRANE en aurpri.ed at that, necause it was generally consi.ered to be so. He would now refer to the evidence given before the commi tee of 1847. The hon. gentleman then read extracts from tre evidence of Dr. Chalmers ' frsm which be said it was evident that it was the object of the tree church to overthrow the established .arch. Though that eat clear, they were now to be forced to grant sites to a church that openly proclaimed see h objects. He maintained that this bill was unnectiOarr, and lens cal. masted to bring dissensions into Scotland. Ile concluded by mueing that the hill be committed that day sue months. Mr. H. DRUhIMOND seconded the motion. kr. F. afAULE raid he had hoped that the di/erosion on this subject would he trio from all I.cling of bitterness, which be trusted was passing away in Bc Aland, and which he was sorry to see revived in that house. (clear, ', hear.) lie would not, however, follow the hon. gentleman in his re . and would only remark that the hon. gentleman was utterly ignorant of the origin of the schism and of most of the tact. connected with the separation in Scotland. No prawn could lament those proceef lugs more than be; but at the same time no person could mere lit mly maintedu that those who separated from the established church had done so because there was no other course left them to pursue, if they wished to uphold those principles which they believed to be right. (Hear, hear.) The lion. gentleman said that 2lel ministers had weeded, whereas the actual number was 472. With regard to the disaffection of the free church body, clerical and lay, towards the laws and ' coestitution of this country, the hon. gentleman was never ma re mistaktn than when he supposed that the members of that church were connected with the movements of the age or tended in the an tallest degree to what he was pleased to call rei.ublicarism. (Hear, hear.) No persons wire better affected toward. the sovereign, or towards the law., or more anxious to disseminate the principles of religion and gold or der thoughout the land teen those who composed the tree church of Scotland. (Hear, hear.) The bon. gentleman had dwelt largely on certaiu articles in the Witness news paper, which he called the organ of the free chei•ch. It was frequently called so before the committee of 1847 ; hut it 'vas constantly and distinctly deuied to be their organ, or that it 11.41authorisid by that body. They had no euthenist d organ. It was et rtaiuly edited by a member of the free church, but, although it represented what was passing among that body more correctly then any other paper, it contained many articles which +tee condemned by the free church, and did harm to it. (Hear, Lear.) There were articles in it lately with regard to his noble friend the Duke of Buccleuch w Web he deeply regretted, and which he believed were re. to speak lightly and tbppantly of the evidence given by Dr. Chalmers, who was now no mare. He could only say that it he felt any satisfaction at all in that matter, it was 'het he believed the house, in listening to the speech of the hon. gentleman, would feel with him so much diluent at it that they would be the leu inclined to support the motion with which he cauclneled. Ile would say nothing of the terms which the hoe. gentleman had used in reference to that great man. He believed that if Dr. Chalmers were a ill alive, he would crush such an assailant as he %soul.' brush away a fly from his face. Ile hoped the house would no. to led away from the real matter under their conelderation by the tone of irritation in which that discus. sion had been introduced. (Hear.) If the h 'use adopted the principle of the lull it would give satisfaction to en es• te wive portion of the community of his country. If it pleased them to reject it he st.tfel deeply regret their basing elnne so, because that would leave a feeling of dieeatiefaction rankling in the minds of that body. (Hear, Ilea,) Mr. B COCHRANE rose to explain. He would not re fer to the term "disgust " used by the right hon. gentieman, and which be had not known was consistent with order in th .t house. But he distinctly and emphatically denied that he had spoken disrespectfully of Dr. Chalmers. He Lad merely quoted the evidence which 1/r. Chalmere had given before the committee of 1847 ; and if th at evidence was not to be ()noted, because that eminent man was dead, without subjectieg one's a if to a charge of disrespect to his m mory, he did not know of what use such evidence could now he _ Lord DIUDILA'NRIG certainly had not heard the hon. gentlemen make use of the words attributed to him. With regard to the bill, as further discussion had been challenged, he must soy that he thought there were grievance., and that the bill was not deserving the censures cast upon it. As they did not refuse a man ground for burial, so they ought not to refuse him ground whereon to build a temple of wor ship to his at d. Mr. M. MILNES thought the history of the free kirk one of the most remarkable instances of devotion ever re corded. But he could see no reason why ca exceptional law was to he passed in its favour. It they gave facilities of this sort to dissent in Scotland, what might they not he called uph to do in England ? The Wesleyan.' in our own country had once suffered, but by patier ce and prineverance they WO won the esteem of all persuasion.. Such a measure cc this, however, was rather calculated to excite animosity than to allay it. Landowners were not to be forced into compliance with a hat they thought unreasonable demands, and he thought the free church party had better net on prin ciples of moderation than renew that hostile feeling which, he had hoped, was gradually abating. He should vote agaiust the bill. Mr. OSWALD had brought down upon himself much dis play of ill will by voting against this hill on a former occa sion. He should not, however, violate his principles on that account. Ti.ou..fli he did cot belong to the free church he de. ply sympathised with it in mad) , respects. Its members had given noble testimonies to the sincerity of their ITN. gMus belief. But he objected to this measure en the ground that the number of instances in which sites wa re reinvest were only 22, and that it was improper to introduce a mea sure affect no every part of Scotland in order to m et an evil so trifling M its extent. Sir J. GRAHAM must frankly say that he was compelled to enter into the discussion of this subj, ct with more pain and regret than he could well describe. That regret and piin were increased by the allusions which had been mode by the member for Bridport. It had been his painful fate in the committee last year to be brought into hostile collision with one of the greatest men Scotland ever produced. He admired Dr. Cl almers as a philosophir, as a echo ar, amiss a friend, and no lapse of time would ever cause him tosease 'amenting being unhappily brought into collision with him. He had now been taken, as Dr. Henry said, from the church militant to the church triumphant, and it was, consequently, a still greater duty to enter into this dis cussion in a spirit ry opposite to anything like anger or animosity. The position in which he had been placed with regard to this subject was one of the moat unpleasant of his life. He had h- forced to the performance of a most dis agreeable duty, the more so as he regarded the secession from the Sottish church 112 one of the moot unhappy evente that ever had occurre d. He came to the discussion of this bill, therefore, with no pleasant feelings. Ile was bound to say, however, that if this hill was Tamil at all it ought to be made applicable not to Scotland only, but to every part of the United Kingdom. (Hear,'hear.) Although, also, there , was this diversity of religious opinion, he did not be lieve that the owners of property were i nexora bl e w ith ! regard to the sale of land for these purposes. If this were so why deprive the owners of property of the right they pos. seised, sod the pleasure they might enjoy, of assisting and conciliating their neighbours ? If this view of the cue were cornet the bill was worse than superfluous. It was said that 725 churches had been built in Scotland during the last three years: only twenty-two congregations were unable to obtain the precise sites they re quired, and of these only eight were unable to obtain any suitable dwelling in which to worship. Well, then, was s there any ease for this sort of interference ? He had reason to believe that if thin attempt at legislation had not been brought forward concessi- no by several of the landed pro- prietors would have been made. (Hear, hear.) Ile was glad to hear the right hon. gentleman the Secretary at War declare that the Witness was not to be considered tho organ of the free church. He was glad to hear it, especially on account of the attacks upon a noble friend of his, to whose justice, kindness, and conciliatory slip/viol lieu nut s single person on his estates but would bear THE E‘PRESS, THIRSDAY EVENING, JUNE 8. 1818. willing wham. The eharges made y the IVitness against the Duke of Ducetooth were of the rpm acrimonious cha racter. It was stated that the duke had, from motives of religious bigotry, cleared his estates g numerous tenants. That charge had been withdrawn, e 4 condemned a false, calumnious, and Malicious. He was gad to hear, therefore, that the Witness was not the organ of he free-church party. He was far from saying that as a let necessity legislation might not be desirable, but such legilation should assume not the shops, of a genetsl measure, tat the character of a private bill, to dealirg with which al t h e particular facts would come out. The free chur c h coed find plenty of funds for the prosecution of such measure% The on ly salutary check they could have wan, that each case should be sub mitted to parliament on its own meris. Upon the whole, therefore, he had time to the concluson that this legisla tion was not expedient. Mr. F. SCOTT lamented sincerely the introduction of the bill, feeling Routed that if the matter lad been left to work is own way the troubled waters wood have already pub sided, and sites, wh refused, 'mull willingly have been given. The Duke of Buccleuth had teen made tho target fur all the shafts of the free church party. The sites which the noble duke had refused were only two in nuother. One of these sites was only live miles from a 'ree church, and that was by no means a considerable distance in Scotland, nor was it greater than the distance the rdeldents in the same locality had to go to churches connected with the establish meat. Ile could not merlin the satisfaction with which he had heard that the Intries.l was not an organ of the free church. lie contested that when he read the statements of that paper respecting the nthle duke's conduct, he deeply regretted that the free church party should have formed such a judgment of* nobleman en kind in hie deposition, so benignant to the poor, and no anxious to conciliate all around him. Mr. HUME, although opposed to all Interference with property, thought they had now o me to the time when they had to decide whether rrligious peniecutjon meld continue ur not. This appeared to him to be the only means of bringing the question to • settlement peaceably and speedily. Mr. SPOONER only wished to state why he should now vote against the bill, having on a former occasion volt d in its favour. The reason was that he had not considered it ' right to refuse the free church leave to be heard upon this subject. They had now shown cause, and cause had been shown against them, and he admitted that the arguments against the measure had convinced him of its isupolie). Mr. F. MACK EN ZIM Weighed to say that mei, th• i statements made by the bon. gentlemen below him (Mr. Cochrane, as we utider..tond) were entirely erroneous. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, hut Mr. CHRISTOPHER interposed, and asked what course the government intended to pursue ? Sir G. GREY mid he had intended to express his views in committee; but he would now state that ft was his intention to vote for going into committee, and when in committee to support the amendment of his hon. friend the member for Roxburgh. The house divided—For the bill gt For the amendment The bill then named through committee pro formal. BOROUGH ELECTIONS BILL. This bill being on the paper, Col. SI STllOll.ll' asked if this measure was to he post poned day after day, and when it would ho brought on ? Sir 0. GREY said he was surprised at hearing the gallant colonel ask such • question, for it WM nit a minute ago that he hail inquired of him if the bil was going to "smug fled" through the house that day. It was quite impoanible, of course, to lit a day on which it could he positively brought on. Mr. A. STAFFORD hoped the government were at soy rate going to take the measure into their own hands, so as to settle the question one way or the other. Lard J. RUSSELL said he was very anxious that tho bill should go on, but he could rot consent to anticipate the de bate upon the navigation laws in order to pass it. Col. SIIIIIEOEI. twisted leave to state that when the de bate was resumed he should move that " London " be in cluded in its operation. (Loud laughter,) Ile should also, of coupe, move that the Speaker do leave the chair that clay aix months. __ . An liou. MEMBEIt asked if the bill could not be fixed for Friday ? Lord J. RUSSELL said it was ampossitile to say how long the debate upon the navigation laws would last, so that of coune he could not lii it for Friday. The house then adjourned. ELECTION COMMITTEE —YE4TFILDAY. DCBLIN.—The committee were occupied the whole of the day In consideration of three votes olipeted to on Mr. Reynolds's poll, but which were not sa•iafsetorily sustained, in the opinion of the committee, and were therefore (haired to be valid. The erprews. MAILS. The malls for British North America, and the United States, will be made up an the evening of the 9.11 June. The Went India Muds, exclinEng Itermuda, Naß,ou , Havanna, Honduras, New tirlesns, Vera t rue, Tampon, and Porto Itoo, and Inelurlittg thaw for a, Lit Mel, CarthArew. lua4 Hama, (Mares, Panacea, Wild Coast of south America, and St. Jitando- Nicaragua, will he made up on the mot ning of the I;th June. The mails foe Vito , Oporto, Lisbon, M.O ICI (111.1 i/., end Gibraltar will be made up to the inorning of the 17th June. The overland walla for t iibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian Islands, Eirypt, Aden, Ceylon, India, Hong-Kong, and (h ula, rarothsnap- Jww. The overland closed mots, to, Marseilles, to the Mediterranean, Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, India, llong-Kung, ate., will be nt.ele it;i on the evening of the 2ltb J ".• - • - • • . . The tuella for :few Nouth Wales, Von Diemen'. Land, and New Zealand Intl be mode up on the evening id the Anti June. The mails for the Wept .liewt ot Africa and Minteiri. will be made up on the evening of the 3uth June. The mail" for the Itraritp, t►e River Pt tie, Monte Video, rernawi bow, Bahia, Madeira, and Damon Arrep, will be wade 11,1 un the evening of the Ith July. NOTICE TO ADVERTISERS. The number 01 STA M ineued by the authurit;es of the Stamp-office, during 1847, to the DAILY NEWS ie.. 3.447.009 This, we believe, is within et , * ptr cent of the number issued to the Marling 1 tensitt, 56trlittiy Mutual., and Morning Post, ALI. rt T Tllolllll.l{. In addition to th.. At, 'n, from, to the DAILY NRWS, Morning Paper, there wen issued tar the Evenin 7 Edition, THE EXPRMS 778.714 Which was more, we believe, than were issued either to 'be Globe or Standard, Peeving Papers. 111011 11 4TY.Ia •T 1..)%10101 ENIIT3E. T••• woe. MO 7. T••••••••—blornto, UM vb. . LONDON, TII URSDA Y. JUNE 8. THE House that Ds"; built is it) let. It cost five thousand pounds; it holds five thousand people; and it has been kept open now for five years. During that period it r.as dune a considerable business, and so long as its distinguished foun , er lived it was never empty, and the con ern t' rove. From the day of his decease, however, the establishmert has not prospered. Its affairs have been ill managed—indeed al ill, that, though the times never were brisker in that particular line, customers have fallen ofl, profits have gradually ceaked, and, after eating up whatever original stock in trade there was, the lamentable announcement bare at length been made of absolute bankruptcy. The acting planer, Mr. Jura o'o)N:is:Lc, has publicly given this intimation to all whom it may concern : were it not so we should not feel it to be consistent with delicacy to make the startling assertion. As to the true causes of this "extensive and im portant failure," as our City friends would designate it, we are not left in doubt. Wi'h a frankness which I without flattery we may call inimitable—for we hardly know another individual engaged in politiml trade who would have coolly and unfalteringly uttered such a statement—Mr. J. O'CossEt.i. told the frequenters of Conciliation-hall on Monday last, that he had been reluctantly convinced by the daily declining receipts in cash, that the public no longer sought for or valued the patriotic advice, direction, and leadership, which, as they were well aware, was all he had to give in ex change for their money. He did not, indeed, avow that during. the last twelve months there had been any real change in the article offered for consump tion ; or that ill-natured people, who called what he offered them a bad imitation of that which his father used to furnish, had any just ground for such objection. All he felt bound to say on that part of the painful subject was, that lie could no longer make it answer. The showier if not very superior article with the pike pattern had be come the general favourite. He would not be indis posed to take a share in its manufacture, once the affairs of his own were finally wound up. At least, he was willing to sell the good-will of the bank rupt premises, and to lend whatever reputation might attach to his name, under existing circumstances, to an extension of the rival establishment. But at the same time ho felt it due to his own character for consistency to confess that he had no confidence in the new concern. He did not conscientiously approve of the stuff in which it had hitherto dealt, and nobody would do him the injustice of suspecting that he could sincerely ap prove of the principles on which it had been hitherto carried on. Indeed, he had reason to be lieve that nothing could be more uneatie factory than the financial condition of the young Irelanders, except that of the old ones. Both were insolvent, and therefore it seemed judicious and proper that they should form a joint stock of that ca , pitul which neither of them separately possessed, and thus by one determined effort save the country, or at least themselves, front extinction. We have called this avowal frank, and we fancy that few of our readers will dispute the accuracy of the description. The more we cons:dor its tone and bearing, the more we are Nat in wonder at the stark nakedness of its unreserve. The two ex isting associations are, it is said, to be contempora neously dissolved, on the ground of their inherent weakness and mutual antagonism ; and out of the fragments is to be built up a new society on the prin ciples common to both its predecessors, regarding which principles they have hitherto been irrecon cilably disagreed. Marvellous power of genius and wisdom ! But simple folks will ask—what are the principles to be? As far as we can make out they seem to he tie Re: in the first place physical force as a lawful expedient. There were at one time grave objections to this doc trine entertained by many; bat that arose from mis conception wholly. The physical force men bud not then experimentally explained their nu aning. They cuid ull along they meant no harm; that talkie,: of arms was not likely to lead to any effusion of blood; that it was simply a cheap and innocent means of excitement; but that no men on earth were ' le es disposed to commit any danger us breach of the peace than those who insisted with the highest fer vour on the glut-it sof Ninety-eight. Now that they have been put to the proof, all men ~grew in acquit ting them rat any bellicose terdencies. There really can he no quieter men in the world than these figura tive fighting men. Still, for fear of any possible niisconception hereafter 'aiming, Mr. J4)1111 (MON NELL, with praiseworthy candour, declares that if by any accident any future commotion or danger should arise "for his part lie is re-olved to have neither act or pert in it." The next fundane Mal principle of the reconciled rivals is to be—the strict. observance of the legal and constitutional form of expression in pref rence to, nay in exclusion of, every other. Thu old different eon thin head has lik •wise turned in practice to be a mere verbal distinction. When Mr. Jifitie O'Cosieete, had seen the barricades of Fe hrusry, and once found himself safe out of Parie. lie felt and talked Yet everybody now admits that there was nothing in that, lie always spoke of barricades in a legal and constitutional sense. Mr. MEAGIIF:It, with has dis cretion, spoke of them without the savitig furmula, and was consequently put to the trouble and cost of a trial for se ition. It is manifest, t he n, that of the two modes the elder one is more economical, and answers every purpose quite us well as the junior. Home this condition. And su of all the minor stipulations on which the coalition is to be formed. "The first step towards repeal has thus been taken "—so writes the ablest or gan of Conciliation Hull "Thus ends the agitation fin• repeal," writes a sagacious contemporary on this side of the Channel. Unhappily fur both countries, "there is no speculation in those eyes;" if there were, they would alike discern that while the combined let Wen' ss and egotism of tw.i such men as SMITH O'lluttis and JOHN O'CoNNELL cannot had even one step towards repeal—the cry of national mimicry and the agitation for redress of national wrongs is not ineasureable thereby, but that it will and ought to continue until the relations of England and 'relied be placed on some really equitable and solid footing. 14)1(t) Joim Russ Eli's challenge to the reformers of England is in the course of being answered. One after another, the popular constituencies are taking the field. Yesterday we published unccrivocal demon stration of ardent attachment to the cause of further parliamentary reform made by the impotent metro politan district of Lambeth ; and this day we follow it up by a report of similar demonstrations in Mary lebone and at Bath. It is nut the ma• ufseturing districts alone that arc urgent to have our electoral system placed upon a mere satisfactory footing: the locality hallowed by the residence of the primate of all England, and the favourite resort of the fashion and dyspepsia of this country are equally alive to its im portance. The Mayor of Bath, in the speech with which he opened the proceedings there—a speech calculated to have great weight with every reflecting mind, on ac count of the singularly feiettous manner in which it blends unzonipromising firmness with dignified tem perance.—proclaimed the meeting a respoese to Lord Jon N's invocation : _ _ _ _ The recent deduction of Lord John Ru sell has rendered the convening of this meeting en act of imperative duty. I consider that his do claratiott, that the midole and workilg classes have no sympathy with the great reform motion of the 2lhh of June, is nothing less than a challenge to the j sadg taac nt, th• •itkccrity, and the &eat of tier; rational re former. _ _ I he Mayor proceeded to say -1 do not imagine that any of you who hear me hsvc adopted the notion of finality, or think that further Teraina is wine cersary. I think that we reformers have al ways advocated the opinion that chimps adopted merely for the sake of change were impolitic and danger us ; but that, on the other hand, the principle of progression was beneficial and con sistent with the advancing civilisation of the present age. He exhorted the meeting to "go forward in a spirit of conciliation, and avoid controversy on unimportant and minor mutters;' he expressed a hope that the new name for reform " will be distinguished as the former by patience, dignity, and a temperate application at the door of the legis lature;" and declared his convic tion that " no opposition, however •ii.lent, can stand long against prudence, perseverance, reason, and mo deration." 'this is the language of a true English man—deliberate but resolute—and will be echoed over all England. We are glad to observe that so much stress is laid at all these meetings upon the unequal distribution of representation. " What was the use," asked Mr. STEVENS, at the Lambeth meeting, "of their two members voting for Mr. HuwE's motion, when they wonld be opposed by the two members for Thetford, or some other borough, nominally representing 200 men, but really only one or two, while the memb.`lll for Lambeth represented :Mlle thousands?" And to make the character of the small borough representa tion still more obvious, Mr. STEVENS read to the meeting a bead-roll of noblemen, gentlemen, and ladies, with the b 'roughs in the name of which these parties, send members to the House of Commons. The point of equal electoral districts is one upon which all real reformers are now agreed. The eyes of the public have been opened to the consequences of the glaringly unequal distribution of electors among the constituencies. They see that it is a bare faced mockery to call the House of Commons a repre sentation of the people of Eiogland, so long as the re presentatives of real and independent constituencies, like Lambeth, Bath, and Manchester, are out-num bered in that house by the representatives of small knots of dependents upon lords or ladies, who must vote as their masters and mistresses bid them. On the question of vote by ballot alto, all real re formers are agreed, as well the universal enffragis•s as those who would stop short of that extension of the elective franchise. In point of fact, the only mate rial points upon which the intelligent moral-force chartists differ from those parliamentary reformers who concur in opinion with Messrs. Ilume and Con tivi —are the duration of parliaments and the exclusion or non-exclusion of any class of bane adult males from participation in the suffrage. As to the question of the duration of parliaments, it really appears to us that for the honest moral-force chartists to insist upon their annual parliaments, if triennial parliaments can be had, would be rank pedantry. Three years is not a period long enough to allow any representative to forget his responsibility to the electors and truckle on any occasion to men in power, in the hope that parliament may last long enough to allow his ba,kuliding to be forgotten. While on the other hard, it cannot be denied that there is much force in the argument that the annual recurrence of elections would weary out and jade the interest men take in them, and have a tendency to throw their management into the hands of cliques of local busybodies. It is not through fear of the demo cratic principle that triennial are preferred by many to annual parliaments, but from a sincere conviction that annual parliaments would very probably end in rendering the responsibility of members of parliament to their constituents in a great measure elusory. As to the question how far the suffrage ought to be extended, we frankly admit that those who would stop short at a household, or some similar qualifica- ' tion for electors, ask for a compromise at the hands of universal suffragists when they ask their co operation. But let us look the nature and extent of this compromise fairly in the face. In point of fact there are only two classes of parliamentary re formers at present in the field. There are, on the one hand, those who deem it perfectly safe and ex pedient to give a vote to every man of mature years; there are, on the other, those who entertaining, it may be an exaggerated fear—we are not going to argue the question at present—of the numbers and activity of what have been called the classes danyereuses—of the men without permanent homes and regular occu pations, who ruisy iro scan daily at nighutui waiting to be received for the night into our workhouses— ask, in order to insure purity of representation, that none shall be admitted to vote except those who can give some guarantee that they earn their bread by regular honest industry. Such a guarantee must of necessity be indirect—the occupation of a house, or some similar indication of settled habits. An ineirect and arbitrarily determined visible indica tion of fitness to vote may not in all cases be strictly accurate. The receiver of stolen goods may have a house, and the honest and intelligent but unfortunate man may, by circumstances, be deprived of one. But such casts are comparatively few and exceptional. The universal suffragist objects to any exclusion, nut because het thinks tramps ought to have a enve, hut bemuse he is morbidly apprehensive of exclu ling from the right of voting even one min who could exercise that right honestly and intelligently'; and because he thinks the morally and intellectually in competent class not sufficiently numerous to affect elections dangerously. The question at issue between the universal suffragists and those reformers who tool) short of universal suffrage, is simply one of expe diency—whether or not tho power of excluding from the franchise a large number of incompetent persons would be too dearly purchased by the risk of ex cluding a few who are perfectly competent to exercise it usefully. Now, the question whether or not we are to have re form forthwith, is no mere question of abstract logical accuracy of doctrine, hut a practical question of urgent importance. All reformers feel that in conspreare of public opinion not b •ing brought to bear with suffi cie tit directness and force upon the legisletere, its proceedings are characterised by un indolent shrink ing from all its more difficult duties—by a constant natrifiou of the public welfare to personal interests and personal crotchets. The consequence is that bene ficial legislation is brought to a stand, and ad ministrative abuses' left unchecked. The eaten siren of the suffrage aelvocrited by Mr. Items: and his friends in parliament, would bring a real 1 pressure of public opinion to bear upon the ligis -lis err. Among earnest reformers, those who are at present prepared to go as far as Mr. Wont, and no further, are nearly, if not entirely, equal in nuentit r to the universal auffragistr, and, in respect to their influence derived from position and property, far more powerful. By coalescing with them, the universal suffragists caa ensure the reform urged by this mere moderate section of reformers an expe rimental trial; by standing aloof, or thwarting them, they may prevent its being tried, but cannot carry their own. If Mr. Hi ; m t.' s measure of reform prove sufficient, why then, chartists, in common with all other classes., are gainers; if not, it will be obvious that another must be tried. Can any sincere chat tist, who wishes to attain good government by rational and moral means, and who sees the exasperated and turbulent spirit which the forhesee of the legislature is e•neend:rlng and festering, hesitate an to the course which in such circumstance-6 he ought to pursue ? GERMANY. The German journals manifest great diversity of opinion respecting the form of the future executive pow. rin and for the Germanic confederation. Some are in favour of an emperor, others of an imperial ministry, many of a provisional government, whilst a few express the desire that the diet (which must not be confounded with the national constituent aw mbly) should be intrusted with tlw executive power until the constitution be finally adopted. The Frithßfurt Journal of June d, publishes the names of the mem- beta placed on the committee appointed to examine the various motions respecting the constitution of a provisional central executive. It appears to be fairly composed • upon it are M. Von Gagern of the prince's, and M. Blum of the popular, party. PRUSSIA.—We have received the following com munication from our cologne correspondent: COLOGNE, 'luxe 6. The latest intelligence from Berlin drig, d from pri vate as well is public sources, is still of a very uniatisfac tory nature, Uncertainty, distrust, and suspicion, still pre dotilinat , and not only the ministry but the constitu -nt as. mbly itself is falling into had odour. The many speeches which hove been already delivered in that assembly, it. direct or indirect denunciation of the events of M irch or their con. fid gut cc..., and the refu•al (as stated yesterday) to attend either in corp re or be deputation, the procession in honour oldie victims of the March re .olution, have caused all but general dissatisfaction. From so tie provi cial districts, moreover (celebrated for their reerogade tendency), address, a of the most insulting kind have been forwarded " to the pea ple of Berlin " (for such is their best line, if not their super scription), and published .n the Fos:ceche Zeitung and in other journals. Meantime, commereial affairs are as bad as ever, and employment is comparatively scarce. The ministry have strenuously opposed in the constituent assemhly the appointment of a com mittee to report on the origin and causes of the dis sensions a, d animosity between the Polish and German races in the grrnd duchy of Posen. This opposition on their part, which can only be accounted for by the it unwilling- ' nese to have the truth made known, has uteri ased their un popularity. Matters cannot long remain as they are in Ber lin, and some change fur better or worse may be shortly looked for. _ _ .l pro. us of Posen, the archLishop has forwarded a remark able letter to the minister of the interior, in which he states that out of the 1,240,000 inhabitants of that duchy, there are 800,000 Puha, and only 400,000 Germans, and Jews, amongst the former of whom there are 100,000 Roman catholies. He adds that if the numerous state ens ployrs, their families and dependent•, be deducted, there are nut more than 200,000 non-Polish or non-catholic inha bitants, and that that number is composed in a great degree of new comers and Jews without a country. He contends that, in the organisation of the duchy, the wishes of the ma jority should be attended to ; otlarwi.e the Germans in St. Petersburg, Moscow, and ti arsiaw, ra , ght demand with jus tice the annexation of those cities to the German Confedrra tion. The Preuissischer Staab Anzeiger of the sth publiates the tollowing letter from the Prince of Prussia to hi, royal brother: I reliectfully inform your Majesty that, conformably with the order communicated to me, I have lett L mdon, and again arrived on the continent. I bold this period to be the most suitable one for openly expressing anew the sentiments with which 1 return home—scntim, nts which are already knurn to your Majesty. I fully entertain the h ,pe that the tree institutions, for the former establishing of which your Majesty has now convoked the representatives of the people, will, with Gatl's gracious a..istance, be developed more and more for the prosperity of Prussia. Confidently and loyally I shall devote all my power t I the furtherance of that deve lopment; and I anticipate the women' when I shall *Arnow kdge the constitution which your Majesty is on the point of drawing up in conjunctien, after conscientious examination, with your people—an acknowledgment which will render the constitutional charter binding on the euccemor to the throne.—Brussels, May 30, 1843.—(8i,tncd) PRINCE OF PRUSNIA." The police authorities (according to the Vossiache Zeilung) have forwarded to the citizen. y general a large collection of handbills, placards, and circulars, wi.ich have been pub lished since March last. The object of this step is to ascer tain whither the authors or the printers have rendered themselves amenable to the law. Such api oceeding on the part of the police is set down by the above journal (a mode rately conservative one) as very imprudent. It will be remembered that tome time ago, several popular clubs in Berlin appointed a committee to proceed to the wand duchy of Posen, in order to obtain accurate iufor mtvion respecting the real state of affairs there. The com mittee has since then published its report, the spirit and nature of which may be gathered fin.:m the concluding por tion, which runs as follows: " If we are asked What result do you bring b ick ? What patty is in fault? Who has enkindled the civil war? Our reply is, that the ministry is to blame fur all , he blood that has been shed. That ministry has excited civil war in the provi .ce of Posen, for it sent there two generals with con trary instructions ; one breathing peace, the other cruelly treating a despairing people struggling for freedom." It is now all but certain that Russia is quietly taking steps to win over the Poles not only in Prussian Poland but in the kingdom of Warsaw. It is positively declared in several German journals that there are numerous Russian agents in the grand duchy of Posen who omit no opportunity of de nouncing—as well they may, whatever their intentions may be—the recent atrocities committed there by the German troops, and of setting forth in a strong point of view the similarity existing between the Russian and Polish languages and Russian and Polish habits and customs, to say nothing of an identification of races. The Gazeta Poitkes of Posen now declares that the Russian government has taken steps to ameliorate the condition of the native working classes of Warsaw, and as a first step has expelled all the German and Jewish operatives. It may be stated here that ever since the recent annexatien of a portion of the grand duchy of Posen to the Germanic confederation, the Polish inhabitants openly display a leaning towards Russia. TRIESTE, MAY 30.—Count Liitzow, Austrian min ister at the court of Rome, arrived here to-day on board the English war-steamer Locust. HANOVER.—According to a proclamation issued tin the evening of the Ist instant, by the civic autho rities of Hanover, all houses arc ordered to be closed at 10 p.m., and all loitering in the streets is forbidden. MECKLENBURG - SCHWERIN. Numerous bands continue to levy black mail in the rural dis tricts of this duchy. In the vicinity of Waren there is a band consisting of from 2,000 to 3,000 men. The landed proprietors have fled from many quarters. The Duke of Saxe Weimar and suite embarked at Blackwaii yesterday morning on board the General Steam Navigation Company's steam-ship (Wide, for Rotterdam. gbi COUtl. The Queen and Prince Albert left tetra ter-put ten o'clock yeeterday morning, for 0.,b Wight. Her Majesty and his Royal Siegel.... se "t 1 1 1 by the l'rince of Wales, the Pricier,. .sid, a ,4 Alice, occupied a carriage and four ; Pr inc e A I Princess Helena were in the next carri ape A na i „..aye panied by the Dowager Lady Lyttelten arrived at Clarence•yard, Portsmouth, at a que r n and embarked in the Fairy, which ince. ii Osborne. The usual salutes were fired. I " The littchens Bernhard of Saxe Weimar n s j ; Dasher of Kent yesterday f or . noon, at her n „- rence-house, Se James's. Th.. Iluche.e o f X.,„j - a °, by Lady Augusta Bruce, Baroness de hpeth, C ciper, left town at half past i•ne o'clock eester' fur Frogmore-house Witid.or. 4sidt a 'l'he Duke of 'Cambridge honoured t e ha Wellington with his compavy yesterday house, at the dinner given by his ti the of the Concert of Ancient Music. His It ... a d 47 4 7r1 wards accompanied the Doke of to te, ." • W. mute of the concert, at the Hanover -4 4 4. r: &oa k • Sir John Osiris, But., from ilotipting, interview with Earl Grey, yesterday, at 'flee:ol.4Am A deputation front thl Steamship Otriora', elation of London, comprising tweedy P .„1, representing upwards of 100,000 tons of an interview with Lord Jiihn 1 7, cial residence, in Doweing.stre.t. 111- dem r ), a to . of Mr. 11ilson, Mr. Williams, Mr. W. J. 11.11, sir Jul James, Mr. 'Morgan (seer. tary), and Mr Breit,. (1 mentary agent); and was accompanied yltr . lfrom l; and Mr. French, M.P. l'he 'Alamein of Salisbury had an itatemien y, day with Sir George Grey. A deputation from Bradford, Wiltshire, co m a of Mr. William Murgatre ) d. Mr. Wi.!iain S ot Alfred Harris, Mr. W. E. Forster, Mr. W, Wo w, Mr. H. W. Ripley, were introduce by .I.erd M.P., Mr. Richard Cobden. M.P., and Mr. W.lda ia gelid, M.l'., to Sir George Grey, yesureay, at du ethos. _ A ' deputation including Mr. Arthur Mills, FrAociß Scott, and Mr II Ages, had an la:emits with John Russell on Tuesday. Despatches wero received yesterday at the Colt office, from the Governor of esoada, and (rum the p nor* of the other North A,n r.ean previous Lady John Russell gave, lust evening, the fir a sPri• s of assemblies, at the official residence u( Lord Russell, in IJowniug-cruet. THE REFORM MOVEMD MEETING IN ST. NIARYLELIONE. Yesterday morning a meeting of the Lifetree sa hahitanti of this boroigh was held in the Workbook. pu❑ uant to a requisition signed by several of the rst,,p for the purpose of taking ii.to coasidera , icn Loa! John sell's recent declaration respecting reform in the fir Commons, and of passing some res.,luti .ca oa tint so The platform erected for the chairman and weaklier we re to address the meeting was ful'y and ni s•, raper attended. Sir J. Sir B flail , M.P., Mr. M.l'.. Mr. J. Williams, M P., Mr. W. Willifev, Vt., Bell, Mr. Soden, Lord Dudley Stuart, and many Abe Huential gentle., en re ,id.ng is the paristi, were prestat • assemblage was princip.l4 compasid of the worain• e, but a considerable auml,er of the respectable elites rate-payers were collected in various knots. The natal* sent was about 1,500. Mr. J. WILLIAMS, M.P , on the motion of r• took the chair, and having read the requisition, sass: with respect to the objects which called them rent:: must observe that there never was a rime when it eat ' necessary for the people to be united for good purp l e . as the present moment, nor was it ever more unease the resolutions which they were to be called upon is to should be cautiously wended. It of vital int also, tl at public men should use larLooote that was e. culated to excite the people. They hid before theme ample of that necessi.y in the case of a neighboura - dour. In taking the chair, therefore, ha threw him/ the bands of those who were there assembled, trusta a hat he knew of the working class. s th .t they would him in keeping order. He was ever preen , d tome voice in favour of the people, but if the peruk e forgot their duty as to become riotous or disorder4,f e then prepared to raise his arm, if n paired, in detested constitution and the throne. He hoped the aeremlite act as became men, and he would assure teem he shoed ' prevent any one from expressing his opinion. Be called upon Mr. Williams to move the brat • • (Cheers.) Mr. W. WILLIAMS said, that having here callrd rpm propose the first resolution, he would, with the of the meeting, tend it to teem. It was as bakers: That the present state of the representation of the nosh in Commons House of Parham. rat is tortt..l naturcomi is practice tends to class legi.dation, is no securil era= =qui oppresaire taxation, and produces no comprOmsite ore USIOI Benefit of the people. The object which Mr. Hume sought to strain was one of, ereatest national importance. The country had keg plained of the representation in the House of being so constituted as to give the aristocracy the making class laws. The results whi•at had hem from that misrepresentation of the people were cos known to require any explanation frost him. They them to consult in laws teat were ma • e for the bent fit of certain small classes, and irjurious to ths body of the nation. They had enabled those clauses trive and to enforce a system of taxation which (around . aristocracy and grievously oppressed the working clams people at dirge. They found every elan of the people the aristocracy suffering betel P ri vations: man traders, merchants, private individuals, all, suffered the unequal pressure of taxation. Those evils they had told were all to be remedied by the Haortn Bill. Thal form Bill had been tried by five successive coherent.. 1 it. let him ask, obtained the results expected from it? ( no.) Well, then, when they examined the s) stem oi m presentation to which that act gave birth they wool: at no loss to account fir the effects it prods ,They would hardly believe that two hundred and sit boroughs and counties, posseesing an aggregate numb. 161,485 electors returned 329 members of parliament, number constituting a majority of the House of Conn (" Hear," and cries of "shame.") Those 101,000 odd tors sent representatives into the house sufficient to ask laws which dispose of the freedom, the lives, and the pony of the 27,000,000 of people who constituted the B realm. To show still stronger this an !Italy. he would. that there were 67 counties, with 35 923 cl. eters. re 135 members, whilst the West Riding of Yorkshire 33,165 electors, returned only two ; need Laecashire the same number, returned only four members. was what Lord J. Russell styled a fair and pr fir r tative system. [t the mention of Lard J. Russell's cries of "shame, " hisses, aid the words, " gags* were reiterated by the assembly.] That system John Russell had told the country, was to dared as a final one by the whole kingdom. Dr met there in order to decide upon the noble lord's that the people of England and the working classes wish for either one great reform or the other that is posed to them. (Uproar and hisses.) This was a tat that had astonished the whole country. (lieu.) Thy" at large could not make up their minis so to the ass which could have induced Lord J. Russell to hazarded statement; but it had been denied in all parts id country, and they were now met in that place for 00 pose of denying it also, and to let the nob!e lord lime much he was mistaken. (Hear.) The Reform Billie pet offspring of Lord J. Russell. By means of thath: said that the people of England were to have good ment and to obtain rimed:es for the evils of whin had complained. He now states that progressive reform all they d. The Reform Hill had been proereeertls the first session of the reformed parliament up to the pro hour, and the effects of that progress were to render ibe pendants 8,000,000/. a year more than it was luring tile? session of the boroughmoegering parliament. (Hear.) I whigs had added 3,000,0001. to the permanent c lebt of country ; and as for theiconditien of the people, he nen to show how far that was benefited by the Reform Bahr to point to the gagging tell. (Hear, hear.) Bat these , . ment was not going to stop at that paint; they might that in the ominous gees that hid been ma le by two g pensioners, the Duke of Wellington and Lord 'Broi4.l (Hisses and uproar.) Lord Brougham had the other t called upon the government to atop the meetings of people. But they must all bear in mind that the gir ment could not stop one clan of meeting wit stopping them all, and such a meeting as present would not, in that event, be all to be held—at all events if Lora Brougham had his Was Lord Brougham afraid for his pension ? Re had three and a half years Lord Chaocellor, and he had f years been receiving 5,0001. a year as a retiring penaio knowing about as much law as any bridles% barrister ing about the law courts. What services had Lord Bre rendered that he should draw such large sums from th plc's earnings ? (Hear, hear) Let them all unite, 1111 they would have everything that was demanded b, charter—namely, cheap and good government. They' no longer be sad dled with such men as Lord Brous drawing 5,000/. a year for doing and for having dot • thing. They were all aware that there wore two b progress in the House of Commons, invented fa purpose of curing the manifold evils untouchd the Reform Bill. Ono was for the curium inquiring into the delinquencies of some half sea boroughs. That bill wee one of the most impudent/ ever played oft in the face of the people. Why it was 1100 that by means of bribery and corruption the majority members of the House of Commons had been elected he would begin at the fountain head, and name Lord l Russell as having procured his seat for the City oils: by bribery and corruption. He would undertake to: this ; and if Lord John Russell himself was not aware tact, he (Mr. Williams) would put him in the way of t information on the subject. for he had obtained his id lion from one of the noble lord's committee men. Iftl of 216 constituencies who returned the majority of the f of Commons was gone through, the greater number' be found to have been influenced by bribery. There' other bill in progress in the House of Commons,' he was surprised at Lord John Russell's be forward ; namely, the bill for abolishing the paying clauses of the Reform Act. How many tors did they think that bill would seld to the envies? No more than 5,953 in all the kingdom, at. the four great metropolitan boroughs of Marylebosee bury, Lambeth, and Westminster. There were now returning members to parliament which were mere than any to be found in SLlti auk A. Ile was sir would ail arta with him is thinking that the co