The Express. — London, England, 1853-11-18 00:00:00

Irt)e Court. . WINDSOR, Nov 17. Ilse second dramatic performance at the Castle woo a wok plue this 'menial. The pieces selected tt.l6 uccsuan were • comedy in three acts, by . Mr. r as st e IWO/qtr. , entitled the ' Game of Speculation," sad • comic drama in use met by Me Charles Mathews, estsied Little foddieluse ;" sued the parte wen filled seeoritieg to she rolbwitirt progr•mo, GAME OF SPECULATION. Mr Anil& Ralik Por Harry Lager Mr. J. F. Cathcart. WI • Mr. Frank Matthews. Ear. twos Freeeecto l Mr. Buil Baker. Weems& Mr. Suter. madam Mr. Addison. Frederick Hebb Demo Mr. Clark. ;Hawk Ma. Melfurt. Miss K. o , .iver. usier Kiss Desborough. Om llama LITTLE TODDLEKINS. Jean Rabies's Browasenith, E.q. Mr. Charles Mathews. gawky Behicombe, Esq. Certain Littlepup Ananthis Mrs. Frank Mathews Altair B• Miss Min M. Oliver. Soso Miss Ellis. ihtleter A...wut director Mr. George Ellis. Tio the ore arranged sag the scenery painted by Mr. n o rms jler Majiity the Queen and Prince Albert entered the Rah, wh.re • temporary stage had been erected, at sicht u'ehick. secompar,it d by the Duke and Duchess of Beal..i.t, the Davie+ of Kent, the Duchess of Cambridge s ad M•.ry, and wile! meinhers of the royal iia . 'he Belgian Minister, the Marquis of AS. mon, Ide Grey, Lord and Lady John Russell, fir l'hAr:.• and Lady Mary Wuod, the Right lion. Edw. Cardyen, And the :cities an,i gentlemen in attendance. The pulormsnees immeeli•tely commenced after her Majesty aid her eltutrious circle had taken their seats. The flutens private bend was in attendance in an ante-room. Re'reshinenis were din the Throes-room. The Wilowing had the honour of receiving invitations to witness the dramatic performance, viz : Madame Van de Weyer, the Dowager Merchieness of Diwnehire, Lady Mary Rood, Lady Charle. Fitz Roy, Lady Caroline Barrington, Lady Frances Brute, the lion. Mrs. Gordon, Colonel the Hon. Chatles and Mrs. Grey, Colonel the Phipps. Msjor-Generel and the Hon. Mrs. Scott, Major- General Sir Thomas and Lady Willshire, Sir John Milky Buie, the Rev. W. and Mrs. Canning ; Lient.-Colonel F a kir, commending nfilccr ; Captain Waist% and the Earl of Mount Cherie., of the lat Life Goer& ; Colonel Dixon, commanding officer; Contain Wilkinson and Captain Mey rick. 2ail Battalion Scuts Fusilier Gauss; Mita Con. Air. H. Co:, Mr. Frederick Cox, Mr. and Mrs. Charles Mills, MT h Itiss Agnes Mills, Mr. Gibbs., and Mr. Glover. The Qua+, with the Duchess and Princess Mary of Cam• bridge, walked is the grounds adjacent to the Castle this morning. Prince Albert we% out shooting, accompanied by Lad John Russell, Sir Charles Wood, end the Right Hun. E. Cardwell. The Marquis of Abercern and Earl de Grey are expected to remain on • visit at the Cssde. The dinner party yesterday included the Duchess of Kest, the Duchess of Careiriage, and the Princess Mary. Laly F. Howard. Baroness de Speth, the Rey. Lord Wrintherley Rumen, Lnrd and Lady John Russell, Sir Charles and Lady Mary Wood, the Right Hon. E tweed Cardwell, Colonel the Hon. Cheeks Grey, and Baron Knewheck. The Bead of the let Life Guards attended during dinner. Her Majess Privet- Band efterwards attended in the ty' Curie sad performed the following selection: overture, ..7amoa" Alletretto.“ilph.teamir Kaadelmoina. Sdeoni.t 30.3 ;find movement) The Lord Chancellor, the Marsjuis of Lansdowne, DWI Granville, the Duke of Argyll, a iscoarit Palmerston, the Earl of Clarendon, the Dab* of Newcastle, the Chancellor of the Itschequer, Sir Junes Graham. the Right Hon. Sidney Herbert, and Sir Wiliam Meluworth were present at the Cabinet Dinner given by the Eirl of Aberdeen on Wednesday evening. A deputation frets the Committee for promoting Albert Park had an interview with Sir William Moleswertla, at the Office of Work, and Public Buildings in Whitehall' place, yesterday. The deputation eons std of Mr. Wm. Tyler (chairman), Messrs. J. 3. Biwerbank, F.H.8., John Barnett, Thomas Dm, J. J. Downes, Henry Spicer, Jacob Vincent. W. C. Birch, W. B. Cooper, and James Lloyd. The Commissioners for inquiring into the state of the Corporation of the City of London set yesterday in the Privy COUalri MECO. Present : the Right lion. H. La bouchere, the Right Hon. Sir J. Patteson, and G. Corse wall Lewis, Esq. Despatehes from the Governors of Hoeg Kong, Cer los New Zealand, Malts, sad Gibraltar, ware received yer terday at the Colonial-office. Queen Marie Amelie, who had embarked at Genoa on the 7th, arise( don the fallowing day at Rosati, on the east of Spain, at a short distance from the frontier of France, below Tort-Vendres. Her Majesty had arrived in good health, and had borne her voyage very well. TIIE STRIKES. - THE PRESTON TURN-OUTS.-DISTURBANCE - - -------- LN BLACKBURN. Yesterday evening Blackburn was again the scene of a disturbance. which created great alarm amongst the peaceably dispos..l inhabitants. Throat/bent the day knots of men and women (Preston factory operatives) were to be men strolling up and down the town. some ... - 4 We'll n be content Till we get the ten per cent." But they:did not attract any particular attention Welty searched the omnibus that met the 12 o'clock train frogs Preston, in the hope of finding some " Preston masters. No fest, however, was manifested till dusk, when the num ber of Preston operatives was considerably augmented by the Blackburn factory hands. Then they savagely asked and looked for the Preston masters, saying that they (the mate's) had some to Blackburn to induce the masahis• Suers there to stop their mills, or work short time, till the 'Proem dispute was settled, so that the Mukha= hoods could act so ma•idc 'oily sepport the Preston turn-eats es they had hitherto done. The LM parson that ezperismeed the fury of the mob was Mr. Hoary Nightingale, femme& to Mr. Batters% manufacturer, of Prestos. He was followed from the Ball, up Tharreek-fold, sad to Union-sliest, where he took nfoge la St. John's Tavern. Be rushed into a bedroom, sad immediately afterwards fainted from the stoats of the severe kicking and Wows ho had experienced. Mr. Grath, tailor, of Preston, was able attached, ►et he was sot mace haft He warped hem his assailants into the shop of Kr. Woods, bookseller, hem whisk it was saisolusord that be was seta saasufse tura, hat a height of the aeon*. The mega, math dis appointed, left their minded victim, eat retraced their steps to the Ball Hotel, in which they assideatly *speeded there wen dill several victims to the tea per cent. move moat. [The Bull, we ought perhaps to state, is t►e Ba tboy et Blackburn every Wednesday, and there maw heaven ham all parts of Bluish's., most weekly to tressed busloasallte ether Prestos chaps:however, cams oat of the iaa, and that so enraged them that they kept up a volley of hires, peons, he., till between sight and miss o'clock, when Ws. Baseem, landlady of the Ball, gave the mob permistioa to said two, four, or six of their number to mink her bow. They immediately took advantage of the pnesissios, sad in • very short space of time three compasies, each headed by a soma% were in quiet of Preston manufacturer, in order, if found, to give them up to the fury of an enraged mob. Their search, however, was in vain, bet it append to satisfy them, and also the thousands of lawless individuals who were waiting outside. One of the inspectors said to a servant as he was poising through the kitchen, " It's very well you've let us look through, or else there would not have been a whole pans of giro' left in your house to•night." Every minute after sit o'clock it was expected that an attack would be made on the Bull, and, with the view of preventing that and a general riot, the watch committee and the superintendent of police concentrated all the con stabulary force of the town (about 19) and the fire brigade in the old market-place, in front of end eontiguoue to the Ball. Shortly after that step was taken the borough ma gistrates were called together to consider the propriety of sending for the soldiers. Before the magistrate', however, met (many of them living at a considerable distance from each ether) the crowd had dispersed, red the tem' appeared tranquil. A general opinion was expremed throughout the evening that as Blackburn is the seat of periodical disturb ance" soldiers should be stationed in the town continually. Between eight and nine there could not have been less than five thousand operatives in front of the Bull. Tits PRESTON STRIKE.—A my lengthy memo rial has berm adopted at • delegate wresting of the work men, sad forwarded to the Homo secretary. ANOTHER F.STAL ACCIDENT ON LORD MAYOR'S Der.—Mr. George Yule), a master painter, 33, Murray meet, who, it was stated, had had one of his legs broken by t h e breaking of a board against the Globe Office, in Lombard-street, while the civic procession wax passing, died sa Tuesday at St. lltionmes limpital. An inquest was bald yesterday, and the jury returned a verdict of "Accidental death," expressing their earnest desire that the police commissioners, not only of the City, but of the entire metropolitan district , would give orders that on all future processions no stands should be permitted to be meted upon the pavement of any street in the line of such procession. THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 18, 1853. CITY CORPORATION COMMISSION. Yesterday the Commissioner's met in the Privy Comical Chamber, Mr. bohemian in the chair. Mr. *eland presented a memorial from Croydon, piped by 200 hounholdets, the only resident magistrate, and the two chareltwardeas, complaining of the unjust and heavy coal duff, s. Mr. U. L. Keeling examined-1 am a partner in the firm of Keeling and Hunt. lam connected with the fruit trade. 1 mite es speak of the tow levied by the meters on fruit im pend inn abroad. They, without being called en, insist emmessarieg the fruit imported. If I receive a cargo of MM` several bags, all of equal weight, the crown is satisfied mfr messuting two bags. But the City meters demand 2d. eni snob bag. Sometimes all they do for this is to see the Imp liken out. Their services are not required either by the importers or the sender, the buyer or that seller. In this way I have to pay 161. 13s. ed. beyond what I med. They lee, the duty on all kinds of Outs, except Brazi lian. I do not know why they eta not charge the duty on this kind of nut,. They charge the duty ear app:es and 012i'lL11. They did charge the metage on oranges , under the old duties when oranges wore measured. The duty is now levied on the bushel. When the reduction of duty took place a clause was lotto ffiensi into the Customs Acts, enacting that no metage was Mlle shamed eider the new duties, and the consequence 11110 that they did not since levy the duty on oranges. Were it sot for the City meters we would not measure the whole wage of fruit. In the nine months which elapsed between the month of October, 1851, and the month of Jane, 1852, our firm paid 2eS/. ls. 11d. in the shape of City dues. We paid upwards of 183!. for metage, 221. for Lord Mayor's dues, and V. for Corporation dues. TOOSO are all small charges, but the great objection to them is this, that we have a cifficulty in risking our foreign correspon dents un derstand why it is that there is n difference in the sales of cargoes coining, lepton by railways and by the port of London. The difficulty is still further increased when them foreign correspondent' find that there is the same dif ference between sales effected in the port of London and any of the outports. Mr. Lewis—Does not this tend to drive away trade from the port of Leaden r Witness—Certainly. There are four meters in the City, to whom the corporation have sot( this right of metage. I believe they derive 5,0001. from the metage of fruit and potatoes. I don't know what they have paid for this privi lege. They claim the right of measuring, and they some times do measure the whole cargo. I think the charge of metage is unneetmary, and not required. We have paid 2,00C1. in nine months to the fellowship of porters. We do nut complain of the charges, but I think we should have the option of employ deg our own m , n. Mr. E. Hales, corn merchant, in Bush-lane ' examined—l have carried on business for 25 years in the City. I come here to complain of the dues levied on corn. I was a mem ber of a committee appointed about eighteen months ago, which retook nted the feeling of the corn merchants in the City on this subject. We presented a memorial to the cor poration, es,tieg them to reduce the metage and porterage charges, and to levy them in a uniform way. They are now levied in twenty-five different ways. The report which the committee presented stated that the corporation of London, under charters granted to them in i former times, claimed Use right of massuting all cora deli leered within the city and port of London, and charging for such admemarentent ,• that the total 'menet of the charge for measuring and porterage Muce the reduction made on the 3rd of May, Ida, avenged 4d. per quarter lex-ship, and 2:d. per quarter ex granary. That corn was measured at Wakefield, Bristol, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Lyra, at the rate of 14. per quarter, mid there was no rem son why it should not ha measured at the same rate in the other pats of the United Kingdom. That the captain and crows ..1 vessels assisted in unloading all other kinds of goods, including flair, except c =m, and that consequently the practice of the corporation imposed a burden en the merchants and consignees of corn which tended to divert Wildness from the port of London, and that in fact a very large quantity of corn was now brought to London by rail chiefly to avoid the heavy charge of metage. 'that the effect of the existing practice was evident from the fact that from twenty thousand to thirty thousand quarters of grain were on!y a few years since measured weekly ex-granary in the port of London by sworn meters, whilst not more than 2,000 quarters were now so mem eared. That the merchants ant factors engaged in the corn-trade, if left unfettered, could procure re , sponsible parties to perform the whole fur lid. per quarter from ship, and Id. per quarter from minify. The committee, however, wishing to deal liherally, proposed that in lieu of the Id. and 2id. now levied, the charge should be reduced to 2d. per quarter on heavy grain sad lid. on light grain ex ship, and lid. on heavy grain and Id. on light grain ex-gratiary, to be paid by the importer or seller, thus avoiding the trouble and ex pose of collection from buyers is all parts of the couutry. That the anamiten were assured the corporation made • peek nee= alien 15.000!. to 20,000!. from this source, whist. teem if ovoid be sustained in point of law, was ems . gelmipla and prejudicial in effect eneweeng ha last, to a tat on grain, in the mug part of the United llingdom. A fen took place on the subject. The last nermennaties we received is dated on the 14th of A b mil. Weill not press the matter further, because of the appoint seentet this commi•sion. But we are fully determined to pursue the course followed by Messrs. Comb* and Delafietd. We will not refuse payment altogether, but we will refuse the exorbitant charges h. retofore made. I believe the fel lowship of porters is falling to pieces of itself. The charge for porterage in the London Docks is ld. per quarter, in the fellowship of porters it is 34. We do not object to the metags by the corporation, but we object to the high charge mode. 1 think there would be some advantage in an inde pendent certificate, such aa that of the corporation, even though it war paid for at a somewhat higher rate ; but the charge now made is too high, and the system is too com plex. I believe the complexity was introducal for the purpose of mystification at first, but the corpora tion I believe en now anxious to simplify the system, The porters received Id. per quarter for the work per formed, and the City received id. also, or rather more, for doing nothing. I believe the corporation have set aside the fellowship of porters in the river, ant we may now employ any porters we wish. We would rather unload in the river, but the captains of vessels come into the docks, and there we camset employ our own porters but the porters el the dock companies. We have thus to deal with the monopoly of the City and the docks. The Chairman—ln your memorial it is stated that there le a charge in Liverpool of 2d. for metage and porterage and a Ift:_y_for weighing ; who pays this ? It lel charge d to the consignees. I think that ens &sold be seid by ensure and weight combiaed. I Web that pangs should be left to private individuals, eel to nOli performed by Semi independent and re party. The an sterehants in London Cat n et nine a liberal payment for the latter. I think the Wade wish that the City should have the metage of corn. wadi have the metsge voluntary ; but I think nine- Inaba af the tank would have their corn tonsured by an Iniffipendlost meg, even if the charge was somewhat more ilea Weight dela. I would have the wastage of foreir = e rieZ. There Sz, need agree ; bu bs t th no third y e w if ho t le n , lie trek wadi fer an independent metage. The wit- en reed tars from corn dealers in the country, eimplainieg of the exorbitant charges for restage by the Wsties. .T. HAWIZT examined—l have been a merchant in the City for 26 years, and was:Governor of the Benito( Eng land. I have never been connected with the corporation. The loading merchants of the City are not generally con nected with the corporation. I think this arises from the merchants not living in the City, and else from the extent of their business. I think it would be desirable to have the great commerce of the City connected with the air- Mat:. I don't think the great merchants would wil - I :to say part in the corporation as it exists at present. I think if the system were changed the great merchants might be induced to take part in the corporation as they do now in Use fairish business of the parish in which they maids. I Welt the magisterial duties and the pageantry which surrounds the corporation prevent the great mer chants from seeking corporals office. I don't think the hospitality of the Lord Mayor is altogether unnecessary and undesirable, but that hospitality might be conducted in a lass ostentatious manner. lam opposed to the annual dinner at the Cfniiilhall, which I think is an unnecessary meow I lave bush at the Guildhall dinner when Iw u pewee eine Beg& of England, and although I had what might le essinwel • plan of honour, I could not hear a ward of the open* men by the ministers on that occa sion. I Wok It weelithe well to confine the hospitality to She Ilensien-leese. With respect to the Lord Mayor's Ilheser, I Mink it le a great nuisance to ell the linden of the City penally, end is only wished for by idle boys and men. vibes altered latterly in its character. But I think it has helms move ridiculous every year. It has become allegories* lately. I think the Lord Mayor should appear la such a manner as to create respect among his fellow admen. I think the Lord Mayor should exercise decent hid even splendid hospitality. I think that the corporation =he so improved that the great merchants would not eesept corporate officer. I don't see why the I dieeffienehmtld be elected for life. I think the duties of lie empreadoe are by no means useless. I would have the mepieeders et Leedom distributed in some such way as is &see Is Pule, where the city is divided into different arrondissements, each under its mayor, and which meet to gather for the purpose of conducting the business of the eity. I weed not like to see the corporation swept away till a better epees wu provided. I would extend the cor ral:tea over the whole metropolis. I believe the magisterial sides metropolis are well performed, and I think those duties need not be connected with certain corporate offices. I think, Indeed, the two duties should be disconnected. But the improvement of streets, paving, lighting, and sewerage, would be best conducted by a corporation. Ido not think that, as merchants, we want any corporate super • vision or direction. The more we are left to ourselves, as sierehaats, the better. Any interference with us, on the pert of the corporation, would be rather prejudicial. I thiak *erste no reason for dividing the City into two tor beam. It might stand as one of several corporate It in the metropolis. I think the sewage, drainage, and supply of water ought to be under one management. I think the overcrowded wrote of the bridges over the river shows the inaptitude of the corporation for promoting the welfare and convenience of the City. There is, I under stand, a negotiation for the purchase of Banda , ark-bridge, but 'hers is a difference whether the purchase money should be 250,000!. or 300,0001. I thiak it is the business of the government to see that the approaches over the river should be sufficient. I believe the inhabitants of the metropolis would cheerfully consent to any amount of taxation for the purposes of real improvement. Mr. Lewis—Might there not be a board of works for the whole metropolis ? Witness—l think there might. With respect to chem. bets of commerce or tribusais of commerce, I think they I would be rather injurious than otherwise m London. I was 4 surprioed that two of my fell rw-merelante gave • different , opinion on this abject ; the more so as the merchants of London with whom I have come in contact (and they are very anemia's) agree with me in opinion. There are chambers of commerce in Liverpool and Manchester, but I have observed that they have a aniency to Wanes poli ' tical bodies. A. the towns increase I think chambers of commerce would lies their character of collecting useful commercial information, and would become political bodies. In London trade and commerce is so subdivided, that the general commercial body have scarcely any interest to promotetin common. I am engaged in the West Lida trade, and have scarcely anything in common with the Baltic trade. We have our own chamber of commerce, which meets in the West India Coffee-house, and the B altic merchants have their chamber of commerce which meets in the Baltic Coffee-house. With respect to communications with the government, I eau only say that I have had any difficulty In communi cating with any manlier of the government. In Liverpool the merchants have not the some opportunity of communi eating with the members of the government, but even in , Liverpool I find that the tendency is to separate into die tinet associatioes. They have a chamber of commerce in Liverpool, bat I do not know how it works. Mr. G. Alcock, a gold refiner, raiding in Little Britain, gave evidence on the subject of the constituency of London. He aid, I think the constituency is too confined at present. I would give the fraticbite to every howebolder in the City who pays Not and hears lot, and oczustiers far six months. I would have the corporate offices elected by this ' body. I reside in Alderegate ward. If the change I propose were made it would increase the constituency from 200 to 900. I think you would get better officers under this system. The Deals on which the aldermen are elected is quite faulty. They are new in many leaguers elected by a few voters. An election [hue conducted cannot be mid to r g ive a representation of the City of London. I would re , duce and equalise the wards, and have the aldermen •• elected for a definite term instead of for life. I think there oucht to be paid professional magistrates in the two City police courts. I would not keep up the aldermen as a die- I tinct body in the corporation, but would merge them In the general body. I think the Chamberlain and Bridge-masters ought to be elected by the enlarged constituency I proposo. I would have the Lord Mayor elected by the general body I of citizens. - The commissioth then adjourned to this day. ALLEGED MISCONDUCT OF THE POLICE. ST. JAMES'S VESTRY. At the St. James's vestry held yesterday, Mr. BIDGOOD called attention to a case of assault which had been tried before Mr. Bioghant, at Marlborough-street, and in which a man named Clarke had been fined for bang drunk, on the testimony of the police. lie said that this was a cue of great hardship, the man baying been assaulted while performing a duty to which he had been appointed by the Paving Bowl. A depteation had waited upon Lord Palmerston to complain of the decision of the lodge. Tbey were received vier y politely by his lordship, who caused inquiry to be made, but ultimately informed them that he was quite satisfied the police had done their duty. The Paving &tad, however, took a dif ferent view from Lord, I'slmerston, and considered that their conduct had been moat tyrannical and oppressire— a thing the more to be deplored, as for that small parish the rate was upwards of 10,0001. a year. The facts of the case were these. A man of respectable standing and sound moral character was appointed by the Paving Board to take an account of the number of public-houses open in Berwick street on Sunday morning. He did his duty very properly, but M so doing became known to the police, who save him frequently with his book and pencil in his hand. Another part of kis duty was to note down the number of prostitutes, or females presumed to be such, frequenting the public streets, it beieg well known that the police bad the right of removing them if they chose. He went oat for that pur pose on last Tuesday evening, taking his round from the Comity Firemffice, down Waterloo-place, and back again oa the other side of Regent-street. Having taken his rounds about five times, and noted down the number of these women assembMd at given placer, to walked up Sherard street, and coming to a light proceeded to put down the number of bad eharatten he bad seen on his last round. But it so happened that just opposite there . . . stood a policeman to whom his attentin was called as the man was talking to a French prostitute. Clarke said that he distinctly saw the woman take eut her purse and give the policeman money. Clarke walked up Shemrd.street, when two policemen laid hold of him, one on either aide, and saying "Yon are drunk enough for us to night," kicked up his heels, dragging him along, and kicking his heels every lime he 'dipped. They took him to the station. home, the one who stood on his left side doing all he could to knock hie head against the door poet as he went in. They all went in, and Clarke was examined by the inspector, who took from him his penknife, looked at his papers, and locked him up. The next morning, on being marched through the streets like s felon, he saw one of his companions, and told him to go and inform Mr. Yorke he had been locked up all night. It happened that the Paving Board was sitting when the messenger arrived, and three of the commissioners at once went off to Marl. borough-street, and found the case under investig►tion. lie (Mr. Bidgood) being ono of the three, did all he could for Clarke. Mr. Bingham said, it had been sworn by three persons that Clarke was drunk, but that if they brought six persons to swear that he was sober he would not inflict the penalty. Was it come to this, then, tbat it took two ordinary persons to swear against one policeman ? (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Bidgood) said to Mr. Bingham, the thing is impassible; bow an you get any one to swear a man is sober wham three policemen have sworn . . he is druak, cad credit is to be given aoeordistg to number. I submit that the object in which be was engaged proves that he is a respectable man, as cans other would have done for the purpose. However, the magistrate said that the fact had been sworn to by three polieenne, whose veracity he had never had reason to doubt, and that, therefore, Clarke must pay the drunkard's fine, five shillings. The fine was paid by the board. He (Mr. Bidgood) would ask then, were they to stand timidly by and see a man thus de nied common justice, and the pollee riding down everything by brute fora? True, Mr. Bingham asked the police men had they any other testimony. One answered, "Oh, yes, we have a civilian (implying that he himself was military) who will torroboeate all we have stated, but he cannot be here till one o'clock." Who did the vestry suppose this civilian wsa ? An idle man who was loitering about the station-house door at 12 o'clock at night, and who Daly sew Clarke brought in. He believed that that man loitered about the don for the pupae of being a wit nem fee the polka He would oak what they were to do in seek a ean ? If they went to the nomnimionen of police the eemistiesiortne would say, " Mr. plash= has heard the case, sad we have every mailfienee in his judgment." If they west to Mr. Bias/ban that gentleman would say, "I can do nothing more in the matter. If you have any complaint go to the commiasioners." If they went to Lord Palmer ston they were remind very courteously, but referred back to Scotland-yard. Since the assault on Clarke they had put another man on the duty, who bore out his statistics in every particular. Again he asked the vestry what were they to do under such circumstances ; whether it would ail be as well to make Clarke summon the policeman to filo County Court for damage*, and get a jury of English sies to decide on his case ? He believed that the Queen's l am* and Common Pleas frequently granted protection and redrew is similar cases. He thought that some way or allether the vestry ought to protect him. M. Snows asked Mr. Bidgood whether he bad reason W believe that Clarke was a sober man? ILL BIDOOOD said that fur the last twelve years he bad sever been seen the worse for liquor. Mr. Bsowx thought the public were deeply indebted to Mr. Bidgood for bringing forward this case, but still the magistrate was placed in difficult circumstances. It seemed OM three respectable policemen had sworn that Clarke war amok, and the magistrate seeing no reason to doubt their oaths, could hardly do otherwise than inflict the 1 1 penalty. It was rather unfortunate however that he did not wait for the civilian, as in that case the six men re - ' quired as counter testimony might have been brought forward. Oa the whole he was grateful to Mr. Bidgood for bringing the case forward. The police had great and irresponsible power, and in proportion as their power was great and irnsponaible should it be carefully watched. Ile therefore trusted that Mr. Bidgood would not let the matter rest where it was, but that he would make the fullest inquiry. He was glad to see the representatives of the public press there, as the ease was one of interest ; not to Westminster alone, but to the entire kingdom. They knew how corrupt had been the old parish constables, and he believed that many of the present police were little better. Mr. BIDOOOD then read a statement prepared by Clark*, and which that person was prepared to swear to. It was substantially the same as that which had been made by Mr. Bidgood himself, the only additional facts being that Clarke solemoly declared that he had not taken any sort of intosi asting liquor during the whole evenly upon which he was remelted by the police, and that they tore his coat, wounded We heels, bruised his hat, and that he had lest a new pocket Itendlineblef. Biesnota. thought a copy of this statement should be tent to Lerd Palmerston, although from his lordship's re esption of the deputation, he had not much hopes km that quarter. The only way :they could get an efficient 1 point that to touch upon in their capital—(" hear, bear," control over the pollee would be by the ertabliehmeat of a ; and Wight's) but, theleas, it is quite true that. In captivities for Westminster ; sad in furtherance of that I defiance of the Duke of Wellington's letter ie 181 S, wkeeeir. w ,.,_,. , he pointed oat the nakedness of the land, and showed that object he hoped to be ahle to assist at the meeting "`v° Iwe could be invaded by a powerful nation with en army of was to take place on Monday neat. As a licensing magi- 400,000 or 500,090 men, and that we could not produce strati he bad trequatly to complain of the conduct of the I 20,000 men in England, whilst we hid very few *lips to p o li te . Limns wars j te „i t hd„„ on their ttst i ninn y, contend against an enemy, the whi t ( g wernatent—and it bat as often restored on appeal, the police giving evidence o w b a € B ., a ed m .t i e li g overnme n t * lam sorry to s ay , at the time— " th at "make totally at variance with their ori , arm y 5,400 m e e d o l e a f n t rals l o .' ll e fle S e 3 t ei ti ' vTaar o d t t e iti e n e e d their iow gas! testimony. No doubt they had received good I have an hesi tation i n thk i ng that, if we bad eat' the fleet memo in the meantime for altering their evi- that we have now, with a small addition to it; and when donee. Them wee no remedy for m o t a state of Russia first menaced Turkey, we should have said to 11.11111id ic " If you cross the Pruth, the Mediterranean fleet things but the establishment of local corporations, with an :Ind willthe B r itish i l: r o r me r !: i e e t w , instead e ; efficient control over the police. It had been frequently goesn re:LeLastaaats'ajZfilt.e• said that the government would be glad to incorporate the Baltic." (Cheers and laughter.) I wish it to ba clearly metropolitan boroughs. And that if the letter did not ask understood that lam not blaming the government for not for incorporation it would be made compulsory ea them. acting with more vigour in time, because it was not in their r; I 't ley escape eit, bre ause His only hope was that they might hays a child of their af t er they but had won got the t ir them fia entirely up, and piraded h it er at Spit owe, and not have one thrust upon them. head, they neglected to send them a little further on. It is Mr. BIDOOOD moved that a committee be appointed to true, the season was far advaeced, and you all know per inquire into the transaction. fectly well that the occupation of the Baltic during winter i i ;zr t f h e r e r tl e y fo i r m t p h oes i ible, f o r .,T the simple reason that you can't Mr. Geasox said that any person acquainted with parish matters must be aware of the indifference of the had sent a e mat ee ' olePriwt, g m et r .l i e h m h en 4 l s h id us t t h rw it , i t: t at:i l ia polies as to the obligation of an oath. And he attributed Well, the Count Nessehode issued a via mor e Pe their low standard of morality to the system of promotion impertinent manifesto, anti having netted that I dare say , you have read the declaration of was with 111:4ii, whien from the ranks. There were no men more victimised by is more impudent still. I don't suppose all who are hire the police than the licensed victualler,. Wh have been much accustomed to treaties and to examine into a public-konee was situated down a court, the them ; !outmost gentlemen who leave ever attended to that policeman might be seen walking carelessly up and down question will allow there never was such infamous the entrance towards the hour of closing, and the potman oonduet, such insolent language used by one nation to would be observed gliding out with beer or brandy and water ir l otb. r r. Now, t reetlemeu, let us consider, having stated remainsl th, r h h t a i t re w p i r ll ih b r e ip t a b l o tti co rr useeity w te i r eTe to Euro pe r. y e a h w ßu e ssia for his refreshment. If the sergeant came up they drank together, and thole were the men who became inspectors, there was a distance of nearly 200 mile: betw een zy le lefn o ! and eventually superintendents. What moral check could tier of Austria sod the frontier of Russia. It' you leek at a superintendent so appointed have ever his men ? For the map you will find now that they run alongside of each other for nearly 500 aim ;and if Russia remains in pin these reasons he would tell Lord Palmerston that he must session of the principalities that distance will be nearly I appoint gentlemen to the office of superintendents, because doubled, and on the Danube her frontier , inane , ' of being _ .. ' ' .. they would have feelings of self-respect, and the men would not take liberties with them. Having re lated one or two anecdotes of the misconduct of the police, Mr. Beeson said it was well known that they were everywhere but where they ought to be ; as the Chancellor of the Exchequer found, to his great annoyance upon a recent occasion. (Laughter.) He (Mr. Geeson) bad told Lord Palmerston that if he wanted the policeman on his beat he had better begin to look for him in his own kitchen, not forgetting to look in his coal cellar. (Laughter.) This was the state of things in a parish not three quarters of a mile square, and which was rated at ten thousand five hundred a year. He believed the police ser vice might be better done for four thousand a year. The motion was then agreed to, aced a committee ar pointed, consisting of Messrs. Bidgood, Watkins, Nelson, Beene, Nichol', Brown, Smith, Haines, and Taylor. The RAT. J. E. Kempe, rector, presided. 80 =ilea, will be 300 or 400 miles. Now, let Russia be inc. established in those principalities, and judging by her con- duct for many years past, her caotious conduct, beeeese she is very cautious, and always at the end of every warsequiring more territory and more power, will any man in this meet ing believe for one single moment that if the pox era of Eu rope allow Ruibia to posse's :hose principalities , she will stay there content ? (No, no.) It is contrary to human netsue—it is contrary to %het has taken place since the ereation of the world. On she will go till et e get, to Con stantinople, and then what a pretty porit:on Europe will he in. (Hear, bear.) She will have the Baltic to the north, the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles to the south, end she will stretch her brawny arms and hug all Europe in her hideous embrace. (Hear, hear) Well, gentlemen, do you think she will lugs there ? (No, no.) We here seen that Mehemet Ali, a servant, I may almost 'ay, of the Sultan, succeeded in marching from Alexandria across the Taurus, defeating and destroying the Tarnish armv,aad coming upon the very hanks of the Bosphorus. Now, if tee Egyptiens could do that, and if the Ressises get to Censtanti nople, may I axe you what is to hin ler them from marching from there to Levin; and then what be comes of your itemise to India, I should like to kilt+ ? (Hear, hear.) How will your trade he carried on ? How will yourcummueications be carried on, and how will ell your manufacturers send your Foods to ? You will have to return again to the Cape of Good Hope. But in stead of that, you have now a free passage moss the Isthmus •f Suez, which will be blocked up by Russia. Well, then, will she he satiseed with that We hear already that she is intriguing in India with sr.r.r.y of the discontented kings and g eeernors, or whatever you call them; for really I forget all their names, there are so mint , of them ; and at some future day India will be destroyed. I therefore think it is our Jounsen duty, and cot only our duty, bat ,the duty of France, Austria, cud Prussia, to gene forward and insist the: Russia immediately evaeu.tes the Principalities. (Neer, hear.) Now, I have shown pen what England has done, and what she has net done. ,once has gone with us up to the present moment, but there is seen danger there. (Hear.) In the lest eastern question, Louis-Philippe threw us overboard, and that very nearly brought on a war with France. (Hear, hear.) It is left to Louis Napoleon now to come forward and assist England to keep up the balance el power in Europe, but suppose things go wrong, and *uprose France sees that Russia will get to Constantinople, has Preece no eye at all upon Egypt herself; and has France no eye either 'open the Rhine All these things may take place, and confusion may arise by the success of Russia. Things may he de ranged—there's no knowing how all the powers will go— every one, perhaps', will look oat for himself ; and I very much fear, and 1 am sorry to say it, that sr( will not get the lion's share this time. Our nary ha, been so reduced and so lowered, so little attention has bern paid during the peace of 37 years to man it, that when we want men, they are not to be had. Tne late government voted 5,1:00 men, and they deserve great credit for se doing ; they ere to friends of mine—(laughter) nor the whigs either ; but never theless the tory government, seeing oar danger, not from Russia at that time, but from France, came down to parlia ment and asked for an addition of 5,0e0 so:liers and 500 seamen, which were granted to them by acclamation. Even Mr. Cobden himself acknowledged in the House of Commons that he did not resist it, becaoSe if they bad asked for 20,000 men it would be granted by Reclamation. That showed that the people of England did not wish to expose their wives and families to be destroyed by foreigner's, and they felt that any power almost, even a setondary power, in the state we were in, could hare invaded this country. (A voice—" No, no.") Somebody ca ll s " no." Let me ask bow we could prevent them ? (Hear, hear.) France, fur instance, has 540,001) men, and we have 20,000 ; and is there nemeses of crossing the chance: ? Why, it is easier to crow the channel than to march into this country, by mesna of sham vessels. Tee country was not safe; thank God it is safe now, and I take some credit to my self for driving them to make it safe. Coo.) I did not get much thanks fur it, but you have it now, and you are all willing to pay for it. Iv there anybody here at this meeting at the present moment who grudges to pay a half per cent. more of his capitol, to ensure safety and tria -1 quillity to his hearth and his wife and family ? ("No, no.") I dare say you have all read Lord Aberdeen's speech the other day, when he was feasting at the Mansion-house, after eating the turtle soup. (Laughter.) After being well entertained there, he said, and said properly, that the policy of the government was peace, that he would maintain peace as long as he possibly could do ; that be was reluctant to go to war, but, U war was demanded—mark you—and plainly demanded, if consistent with the honour and interest of this country, he would go to war. (Hear, hear.) Well, what he meant by that is, if England demands that he shall go to war, he is ready to go; but Eng land will not demand war unless she sees it abso lutely necemary for the honour and interest of the country. You aro all prosperous now, all making money as fast as you can, particularly in Manchester ; but you era not quite sure you will make that money if you are at war. Therefor* there cannot be a doubt that this meet ing, and every meeting throughout Great Britain, if they do follow this, that takes place, will desire peace, and will not drive the ministry into war, unless it is absolutely neces sary. Now, lam just as fond of peace as any of you, and am almost too old to go to war; but nevertheless, for the honour of this country, and the interest of this country demands it, I am perfectly ready to come forward and shed the last drop of my blood, for the honour and credit of the British people. (Loud cheers.) After SOON remarks from Mr. WILLIS and Mr. STORNI', who were listened to with much impatience, and eventually ejected from the room, The resolution was put and carried, with a very few dis sentients. Mr. 8. B. JOHNSON moved the second resolution, which alleged that the avowed policy of Reggie, and her insidious encroachments upon aft neighbouring states were at va riance with the conimon interests of other countries, and ought to be resisted by the united efforts of all civilised nations. --- Mr. H. Ptrronith seconded the resolution. Mr. D. URQUHART rose to support the motion, and was received with loud cheers. He said-1 believe we are met to consider the question whether a crowned Prince shall or shall not overturn Europe ; and if so, I receive from Manchester itself the assurance that that very ancient British lion is not quite extinct. Certain lam of this, if lam to credit the electric wires of this day, that the Turkish lion fs not extinct—(hear, hear)—and that it has given to the bear a most uncomfortable fall. (Laughter.) Mr. Johnson, in moving this resolu tion, asked why it was that Russia had stopped up the channel of the Danube ? Her reason was that with Mr. Bright she believed the British lion dead. (Hear, hear.) We have nothing to do with war or peace ; we have to do with common sense; and that is wanting. (Hear, hear.) The man who makes war his principal ob , ject is a murderer, but tLe man who refuses to defend his hominid from injustice is a coward. (Hear, hear.) What we have to do with now is Russia—her means of action, and hat sltimate aims. The reason why you are not called at this WJElent to the last alternative of kings is that the at. bathed state is equal to its own defence. (Hear, hear.) I have came to understand the means of Russia's strength, mad I have learnt to know that her strength was in the breast of the several states of Europe, in each et which she has her spy and agent ; and that is the means by which states are brought low. have learnt the intelligence of the Russian disasters with the extremest terror, because I find that in their retreat they do not go north homewards, but diverge to the left, so as to take refuge in the Austrian territory. (Hear, hear.) There you have the explanation of that wonderful revela- I tion a few weeks ago, that the Russian arm., were wholly diaorganised, and would be beaten before the Turkish attack. The rearm was that events had to be hurried; that the treacherous and villanous decision of our cabinet on the 13th September having tailed, the Porte having re fund the admission of our vessels unless upon conditions, that then the catastrophe had to be hastened. The gallant admiral who has preceded me, has given you an extensive view of the progress of Russia, and not confining him self to the limits of the European world, be has spanned the Himalayas and advanced to Timoar, presented to you India in agonies, and Asia enveloped as well as Eu rope in the embrace and hug of the bear, and he has told you what is coming for yourselves. He has shown how your fleets were to be occupied. and his conclusion is that your government has mansged well, and that you will do I well to trust them still. Now, sir, I tell sou that every single statement the gallant admiral has made in the exordium which led to this conclusion, from the time when be stated that Russia had been stopped by an English minister not then in office, up to the last event in which he himself was concerned in the country—which I beg to say I know as well u he does, and regarding which 1 shall give very dif ferent testimony—in respect to every 914 C of those cvcas I TURKEY AND RUSSIA. MR. URQUHART AT MANCHESTER. A p:tblie meetiog of the people of Mancheeti wu held et the Corn iitebange enWesinesday evening, "to express the sympathy of the iattabitants of ?Sauciest .ith the noble efforts of the Silten of Turkey end his sub• jects, in their struggle to defend and maintain the inde pendence of their country against the aggressions of Rus sia." The chief speakers invited were AdmiraiSir Charles Napier and D. Urquhart, Esq. About 2,000 peopio were present; but though there iu in Manchester undoubtedly a deep sympathy with Turkey in the present crisis, the meet- ing failed to command the attention of the local gentlemen - • • - - of rank. Amongst those present were Mr. Absa Wat kin, a borough magistrate, the Rev. Dr. Vaughan, and kir. Theodore Sekund'. It win understood that many foreign - - gentlemen resident in the town had boon advised not to be present, in order that it might be purely an Suglish copra- sion of feeling. Mr. ISAAC GREGORY, in moving the bet TC9OIIIIiOO, con tended that this country had a vet, great stake in the Eastern question, in as tar as her commercial interests were cancernen. The resolution was as follows:—" That the occupation of the Danubian Provinces by the Emperor of finials for the purpose of enforcing upon Turkey conces sions inconsistent with her independence as a nation, is a violation of the law of nations, against which it is the duty of all to protest. ;;;;tlThat this meeting desires to express its admiration of the dignified conduct of the Sultan and of the patriotic ardour with which the people of the Ottoman empire have taken up arras to resist the invasion of a barbarous and hypocritical enemy." Mr. THZODORE SCIit'NCK seconded the resolution. Sir CHARLIE NAPIER, on rising to support the resolu• tion, was received with repeated rounds of the most hearty and enthusiastic cheering. Its said—Mr. Chairman and gentlemen, I beg to thank you moat sincerely for this very flattering reception. It is not the first time that I have bean in Manchester. On a former occasion I had the honour of being entertained here after the settlement of the last Eastern question, and I little expected then that I should be upon this platform to denounce Russia for an infamous attack upon Turkey. Gentlemen, I think you all know perfectly well that this is not the first attack made upon Turkey since the year 1815. The first question that disturbed Turkey, and disturbed Europe, was the Greek insurrection. After much massacre and confusion the powers of Europe at last put an end to that, and placed a king upon the throne of Greece; but in doing so there occurred an untoward event the destruction of the Ottoman fleet, that laid her prostrate at the feet of Russis, and very shortly after the settlement of that question had Russia declared war on Turkey. In the year 1828, after meeting with reverses, such as I hope she has met with at the present moment, she was obliged to retire from Shumla, but in the following ear she reached Adrianople; then we sent set fleet ti Besika Bay, and Lord Palmerston calling upon Russia to halt, Russia did halt, and Turkey was again restored to peace. Gentlemen, one would have supposed that these attacks would have been enough to hays weakened the empire of turkey, bat a third attack was made upon her by her own Paths, Mehemet Ali ; he thought proper to wage war with his sovereign, after having ausiated that sovereign in the insurrection in Greece, end after he had destroyed the Sultan's army at the battle of Satan% Turkey was obliged to call in her ancient enemy Russia to secure her fom destruction by her owa subject. That was also put an end to, and again, at the instigation, I am sorry to say, lof some of our ministers at Constantinople, the Sultan, in an evil hour, attacked Mehemet Ali again. The allicsthen same forward, with the exception of France, and Turkey wee win saved. I had the honour of partaking in a great degree in these expeditious at that time ; and it is a very sir si thing is the Watery of Turkey that the cont blood auto and armies mum eimmianded by a British ad s~dali 110 the Tumid& lest was also commanded by • em Labile Winkel; and I, a Christian admiral, had the banenrefeasemenilles the army. (Cheers.) In a very *beet time, Maumee Ali was driven beck to BryPt, end Turkey wee Muni In pears and tranquillity. I will kat, at the proud Most. agues Turkey of being a great firel s but she 1111 met skis" Nat elinstion to the ninon oiliness of her ewes-mid net awed to the Christians BIM poses and quietuses whisk she had promised her ad vanft ; but I Ws, after the Isms she has had —alte r eh* ounces in driving Bomb fresher territory—dm Apica due attend ma la her Chukka subjects, and take frsUllismia every peskinenof I~kienfering es that gross& Well, gentlemen. k ,tbkilt it wee, the Sultan granted to Turkey by hut* soberest dated in that year, her Magna Charts. I don't mean to say that that has been precisely carried out as it ought to have been, bat there can be no doubt that the Turkish government has l done • great deal. She recruited her army, improved her navy and finances, and had she been left tranquilly to go on, I believe there is no doubt she would Dave re-established herself on a solid and respect able footing; but unfortunately Russia and Austria, who are constantly on the watch for any discrepancy with Turkey, foiled great fault with her for exercising her hoe pitality, as she had a right to do, only imitating our example, by giving protection to the unfortunate Hungarian refugees. (Cheers.) This naturally excited remonstrant* I from Austria and from Russia. Lord Palmerston came for ward again and told them to be quiet—(cheers and laughter) • fleet was then grain sent to Besika Bay, at the entrance of the Dardanelles, and had the effect of compelling Russia and Austria to take the hint. (Cheer.) Gentlemen, this lasi us to the present question. You pass over some Mil stain, such us the rebellion of the Montenegrins, sikkk I believe was excited a great deal by the instigation *Russia, who came forward and insisted that it was a free country, and under her protection. The Ottoman govern- Sent submitted again to Austria and Russia, and thought by that means, at all events, to have peace and tran quillity. But when people are determined to quarrel with a neighbour, it is excessively easy to do it. Russia and rAnstria sent missions to Constantinople again, under vari ous pretexts. Prince Menchikoff was to be put at the head of the Russian mission, and Prince Lainingen at the head of the Austrian. Prince Menchikoff fell ill of the gout, and it's a pity it-did not get to his head or his stomach—(cheers and laughter)—but the Austrian commissioner was more successful, and went to Constantinople, and succeeded in everything he proposed. Then comes Prince Menohikoff, having recovered from his fit of the gout, to Constantinople, and I believe Europe at large does not produce one single instance of such an insolent embassy as that sent by *el Czar of Russia to intimidate a weaker power. Prime Menchikoff was Minister of Marine ; but, not satisfied with that, they sent the admiral who commended the Russian fleet at Sebastopol, and the general who com manded the army of the frontier, as much as to say, " If pm don't submit, I have en army and a fleet ready to come down upon you." Well, the minister at Constanti nople at the time, becoming alarmed, asked our fleet Zu usual to Besika-bay ; but the admiral commanding our fleet at Malta, wisely and properly, did not ac cede to his request. The Baltic would be open in • month, where Russia bad a fleet of twenty-seven sail of the line, and the Peace society—(laughter)— had reduced our fleet to nothing in 1849. In that case it was perfectly impossible to provoke Russia by sending our fleet to the Dardanelles, when we had not the means of sending one to the Baltic. Now, gentlemen, Ido not blame the government for that; but, what I said before, I ulna the Pout Soriety—(hear, hear)—aal it's a dangerous de dwiumt.ihhp l : i i he ongmri t i a ahuir te :egeine l sgt y tuumhadatti eon lac i iiisao : ::: : :g.i t t.ch:lte t h ls netitto; e t galla n t .hrit iiirmireianniscaiwentunoomart. a il d etb.:2 7 :l: i ignae r bteg a hl l eura ' r i me: s e.ce ; s: Iku t e ii,et: m ashr : ippi n i t ucit i ts . perhaps, of professional knowledge, something I had siid sumption in matters wherein I have lung been labansin• if I feel it necessary to assert precisely tan reverse. I she I be mos: happy to meet the gallant admiral, and suhsta,,- tiate by documents my contradition to every tingle assertion he has mule. (Cheers and laughter) I Mall submit my self to the verdict el a jury of his own selection, and I may almost say, to the verdict—(lnterruption, and cries of " Order," "Question.") Some person calls " Question ; " the question is the conduct of the British minister. Dr. VAUGHAN—The question is, what are we to do to help Turkey. (Loud cheers.) Mr. I: seduitranr—l thaak the rev. gentleman for the ad mission, and the application of my words. The rev. get.- tlemsn says the question is, what are we to do to help Turkey ? and I tell you this, and I tel him at the sauie time, that you have to manacle your government. (Cries of " Oh," cheers, and ironical gounter cheers.) It is very true the gallant admiral told you, you sent out *quadrant. Wire, air, if Ite had read the papers, he would Swim that the )iuglish ambassador went on his knees to beg the admi ral to en away. Sir CHARMS Nartna—l judge by the event. Mr. UItQUHART—The gahant admiral says he j Opts by the event. I have MA before, If he had taken th. trouble to go through the papers, as 1 have dime, ne would know the subject. The event was decided by Turkey, and Tur key &item. leis there in evidence. It was even timid by Lord Palmerston himself in the House of Gammons, that two days before the arrival o: the intended despatch, the Turks had taken a stand, and the Emperor 4.1 RU.SiA had yielded the point. In a letter of Lord Duality Stuart to myself. which has been sufficitutly amply ctreti:s•cl in Oise country. be calls upon us to remember that Kossuth and the Hungarians were saved Irvin a dungeon and from tat cution by the unaided determination of the Porte S.r CHAIM'S NAPIIIII—Were the fleets su Betake. 11. r..• • or not ?_ Mr. a itiarmater—Tae gallant admiral say.; he did IlOt read the papers, but looked to results. 1 answered what Lord Dudley Stuart said had ehartly been the result. Sir C itA.ULEs N Arlan—All 1 stated was that a fleet on three different occasions was in liesika Bay. Whether the Turks had gained their point before the fleets arrived there er not 1 don't pretend to know. if the hun. peii- Reiman will tell me that the sleets were nut at Deseka Bay I have not another word to say on the subject. Mr. Uttunnawr—Tae gallant admiral ask. m^ whither the fleets were at Besika Bay er nat. Oi coarse I teal him they were not at Bet•ilis Bay, because they had en tered the Dardanelles. Elie CHARLES NAPIER—That shows how muck you know about it. The CRAMMAN here interposed, end suggested that as these differences were on pa'uta of minor importance. no m ire should be said about them. Mr. Unut'UART-1 hive not voluntanly entered iota this discussion; but hearing a statement meek. by the gallant admiral which I knew to be nut the fact, I could nut avoid touching upon it. I have only come here to tell you one thing, and that is, that your gosavn.nent is an agency of Ruista, and nether* low (Laud cheers, cries of "Au, no," and uproar.) I have a right to say, in as far SO my experience goes, and in reference to this trans action it is the lar,test of any mates, that in,, people of this country are united in that se mime= of distrust in the management of these matters by their :government. The people of this country cotcpr-- bend that unless we had been pottering, and cherub. :aria . , and whiepering with feriae diplomatists, that there woual have been at the pre•eat moment no truoales to attend to in the East. Whoever has devoted one ccusclentiuus hour to the ea uniaation of the diplomatic transactions of this and other countries, has came to the conclusion that there does exist a system fatal to the best interests of the country, and to stop the Emperor of Rnssia you must put down that system. You must do mare than that—you must rosolve to put dorm your teen ign trance. (Hear, hear.) To arrest Russia you have tried all the old means ; you have tried fleets and diplomacy, and whigs and tories, and all that is vain. What you must do now is to attend to matters which you have neglected, and not be balled longer by quacks and impostors. (Cheere.) Thanking you for the attention with which you have heard me, I beg to leave these words with you—you bet - e toe re cast yourselves as a nation before you con free year elves from being at the bidding and practical service of the Czar. (Cries of never," and loud cheers.) The Rev. Dr. VAUGHAN having been loudly railed for then came forward, and said that he had the greatest re spect I,r the knowledge of Ur. Urquhart, and the greati rt respect for his in tent;ons ; he could Lot c• nfiele more than part:al:y in his judgment. His course of proceeding that evening had been a sufficient in dication as to how the land lay in that respect. He (Or. Vaughan) did not rise as the apologist of her Majesty's government, past or present; Manchester men knew :hat he thought them laggards, as well as Mr. Urqu hart. (Rear. hear ) He believed that it was the duty of the British overomah!, when the Russians first crossed the Pruth. is have sent our fleetintotke Black S'Adirectly. The rasa:anon was carried unanimously. Dr. VAt then moved a resolution, rejoicing ia the determination of the British government to uphold the in depend :nee of the Ottoman empire, eve°, it necessary, by force of areal, Mr. HOYLE seconded the resolution, and it was carried. A Tole of thanks to Sir Charles Harder and Mr. Urquhart was then parsed, with three cheers, and those gentlemen briefly responded, Mr. Urquhart reading two letter, from the seat of war, coati:ming his view of the enthusiastic de termination of the Turks to resist manfully the ggruiions of a barbarous invader on their independence. The precesdings concluded with a vote of thanks to the chairman. WESTMINSTER FREEHOLD LAND SOCIETY. Last evening a public meeting of the Westminster Freehold Land Society was held at Laldwell's Roams, Dean street, :robe. Mr. J. George, churchwarden of St. Ann's, ice the chair. Tha Chairman opened the proceedings of the evening by a reference to the merits of the Westminster Freehold Lsud Society, which, he said, by this time were pretty well understood. There was one thing which tended greatly to advance the progress of these societies, which was that they were always open to every possible inquiry, and the more the Society was inquired into the more would the wothiiir classes and the public see the benefit derivable from it. ir rice its formation it had received in subscription from shaieholdets the sum of 22,1871. 125., and, according to the last report tlery were now in possession of no fewer than eight estates—namely, East Moulsey (West Surrey), Riegate. and Long Ditton, both is Rut Serrey, Helmedele, Kent Town. :K.:hurn, and Brixton. The amount of the subscription for this year was 6,6771. 7s. est., and at the present time they had added to the elective franchise of the country 112 voters, persons who had received their votes by small weekly subscriptions of about eighteenpence, and had already obtained possession of the qualifications on on account of their paid up shares. The auvantages of this society might be understood when it is stated that some of the allotments which bad cost only 301., bad been sold again for GGI ,on account of the desired privilege of being early put in remotion of a plot of freehold land, and this too on a 30/. share. As a means of saving money it was far before savings banks, where a man could only get three per cent. for his money, besides • limita tion being placed as to the amount of capital to be held. Persons taking shares, sad not desiring an allotment, could easily realise from 10 to 12 pet Dent., without any risk or trouble whatever. They could not benefit themselves more than by joining • society of this description. Some of the allotments in this society had been obtained as low as 201. or 261. For the small sum of eighteenpence a week a member might be put into possession of an allotment so far as to be receiving rent from the property, and by the end of six or seven years it was very likely that if he had not got full goo 'mission of his allotment, he would at the least be receiving a rent equivalent to his subscription until the share was paid up. The secret of it was that land was purchased , at the wholesale price, and retailed so to the members. Sewerage, road-making, and, in fact, everything was done , by contract, even to the legal conveyance of the property. Why, the mere investigation into the title of a small estate ; bad cost nearly 30/., while in this society a man's allot ; ment was conveyed to him for a few shillings. , Mr. Houderr, the secretary, adverted to the political influence of land societies. Having referred the meeting to the last annual report, a great number of questions were put relative to the management of the society, all of which were meat satisfactorily answered. A vote of thanks was unanimously awarded to the chair man, and the meeting separated IRELAND. DUBLIN, Noe. 17. The Daily Express has the following account of an attempt at murder, which it attributes to the infamous Ribbon Society, and which has occurred in the county of Armagh, within about two hundred yards of the residence of Mr. Cbambre, who had so narrow an escape last year from the hands of the assassin : On Wednesday (yesterday) morning, between 1 and 2 o'clock, as the Res. Mr. Graham, of Killry parish, county Armagh, was sitting at the kitchen fire of h,s residence, a party of men—there were at least two—came to the rear of the house. and fired through the kitchen window. The rev. gentleman was on a very low seat, and this circum stance saved his life, for some fragments of s, ramroad, with which the gun was charged, passed through his hat. struck the wall orposite, and entered the floor. The mis creants made their escape, and for the present, as far as we are informed , no vacc of them has been found. As to the motives for the crime, the Newry Tae graph says: It is ext:emely difficult to avii i ni any reason for this out rage, unless indeed it is to be attributed to the fact that the rev. gentleman had, for the past few weeks , given *ow assistance to an old man named Nl'Connell, who has in curred the displeasure of the people of the district, on ac count of 'ate being a most important witness in a prose ca tion instituted in the year 18.51 against a person residing in that locality for writing a threatening notice. M'Conned then left the country. and had not been heard of tiil within the last fortnight, when he returned to Meigh. From the moment that his return became known he was everywhere subjected to contumely and derision by the people, and on Saturday last he was hooted and scolded at by • mob in Newry. The poor, infirm man, who is 73 years of age, was sleepinz at the residence of Mr. Graham on Tuesday night, when the attempt was male or. the life of the reverend gentleman.