The Express. — London, England, 1848-02-29 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORI/S.—MOm:4T, FEBRUARY 28. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his Stilt at 6 o'clock. PUBLIC BUSINESS. THIRD READlNO.—Dipiereatte uslatime (Court of Rome) Bat. NAVIGATION LAWS.—BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. The Karl of ELLENBOROUUIi thought it right to notice an inaccuracy in two newspapers (the Timss and which lad repotted his observations in the debate on the navigation laws. lie was r presented to have said that ho thought it insane and absurd to resort to the old mode of impressment fur manning the navy. What ho had mid was directly the reverse. RESIGNATION OF A CLERK. The LORD CHANCELLOR anuouuced that be bad received a letter from Mr. Birch, el. rk at the table, stating that he had turfed the House of Lords for 40 years, and being now 73 years of age he wished to retire. DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS (COURT OF ROME) BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in moving the third reading of tads bill, though', alter the full discutsion of tle:s measure ou the second reading, and in committee, it would be superfluous to detain their lordships by any lengthened oloserietious on this stage of the bill. Ile would, however, tithe that opportunity of stating that he did not pre pow to call upon the house to alter the vote which they hod come to the other night. At the same time, he might say, that persons exceednigly learned in these subjects said they did not the in the apprehen , imis e ater taiued, arid did not think the amendment would effect the object which those who proposed it had in view. After a low words from ES l FITZWILLIAM, The Bishop of St. DAVID'S expressed his disapprobation of the miouster from Rome being an ecclesiastic; and ap proved of that part of the measure which made it necessary that he should net be so. The Earl of ABERDEEN objected to the &pp:nation of " tiovereigu of th Roman States." Ile t fought they ought nut to have attempted to draw a distinction between the temporal end spiritual character of the Pope. It was a distinction whicucueld nut be carried out; tor, it the Pope was treated on temporal prince, the Queen in address ing him, in the very first credentials which she had to sign, I must addrees hint as "Sir, my brother," and sub:critic her self, " Your good sistir." Ho did not see why he should not be called •' the Pope." lie was so denominated in the treaty of Vienna, whit h was subscribed by his late Majesty George 111. He thought the measure would be productive of no advantage. It was sophistical to attempt to separate the temporal from the spiritual character of the Pope. Her Majesty might address tee Pope in the usual style, " Most holy falter," as the King of Prussia and other protestant countries did. He tnought it would be morc respectful to introduce the words, "Court of Rome," in the first part of the bill, and in the later parr, instead of calling the Pope " the S otereign of the Itomon states," to use the ;elm Retie rally applied to him. The King of Prussia night reconcile himself a. may moment to the court of Rene, and not forfeit his crown ; but her Majesty only held her crown on the uuderstattling that she should not be retoneilid to the Pope. Would it not, therefore, be unwise to noise any question of that kind ? This bill must be intended to facili tate our dealings with her Majesty's Roman catholic sub jects in. Ireland, but the noble lord profeseed to li.vo nothieg to do with Irehmd in connexion with the Pope, and made it appear that the measure had resulted from the present state of Italy. Ile (the Earl of Aberdeen), however, denied that such was the ease; but he thought it better not to ap point a minister to Rome. Some four years ago her Majesty's Lou government propose. the esti:instant:at of Iri-h colleges ; and what would they have thaw if they had had a minister at the court of Rome ? Would be have cam. municited tee intentious of our government to that court ? If so, the court of Rome, which had since objected to those colleges, wino.' have urged their objections then; and what would hive been the result? Would the gu:ernment have abandoned their intention, or have recalled their minister from the court of Rome ? (Hear, hear.) The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was sorry that he had misunderstood the noble earl, but he was happy to be able to deny the statement, and he called upon the noble earl to state by abut authority he knew of such distrust having bean expreased. He could take upon himself to albino that no each di-trust had ever been imminorneated to her Majes ty's goverumeita (Hear, hear.) Although he was not, as the noble earl miaht be, in the councils of other states, in whom distrust had been excited—(hear, hear)—ho would repeat, that if any such distrust existed, it had been kept a profound secret. (Hear, bear.) As to the term " Soverei,,no of the Roman States," it was not in troduced by Lim, sut at the suggestion of the noble duke oplio-ita (the Duke of Wellington), who had given much consideration to the subject ; and it had also been declared by a violate earl, the highest authority on Roman catholic epir.ions, to be a iorm acceptable at Rome. He (the Mar quis of Lansdowne) did nut therefore Ineitate to accept the term. (Ilea. hear.) It was, moreover, a term fee sgoised by the cathclie and ocher states of Italy. ITlconclu-fon, he would only say that her Majesty would be perfectly tree to hold int, reaurae with tho Pope, according to the usual terms betwi'ett the aivereign of this country and that of Rome or any other. (Hear, hear.) The bull was then read a third time, and their lordships adjourned at six o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAY, FHB. 28. The Si amois took the chair at I o'clock. Pf.IVATE 111.111NE54. SECOND READlNG4.—Dirkenhead Dock Commirsioners (trawler et powers to nen esnamtf•irmers, effecting numfgements wan the avwn , net.), (No. 2) • Chester cemetery; 13111 s. PULILLC DUSINIS.I. Several members ColTli;oaths. SfiCuND ltettoiNG.—Jelat St..ck Cam anles KINSALE ELECTION PETITION. Mr. BOU VERIE brought up the report of the select committee appo and to try the merits of the petition againet the return of R. S. Geinuees, Esq., fur the borough of Kin sale. The committee reported that Mr. Guianese bad not been duly elected tor the said borough, and tort there had beam no person elected to represent it. That the tail Mr. (tediums had been guilty of bribery b) . hie agents, and that two persous specified by name had received brae s of money also apeeillet ; but that Mr. Guinness wax not cognisant of the acts of his agents in no bribing the electors. RELATIONS WITH FRANCE. Mr. RIME said he wished to put a queltion to the noble lord at the head of the government relative to the recent change of affdrs in France, where the government of King Louis Philippe no longer existed, but a new one had been established. He wished to ask the noble lord whether it was not his iwent:on te refrain fee= sly interference with the people of France, but to leave them et liberty to have and to eet.k what gneernm, tit they pleased? (Hear, hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL : I base no objection to answer the question of my hon. friend the member for Montrose. We have received the intiliigence, which is generally known to the public, repeating toe changes which have taken place io France ; mid I c m assure the hon. member that her bleiesty's government has no intention whatever of inter feriqg with the form of government which the French nation may choose to adopt, or in any way to meddle with the internal affairs of that nation. [The announcement was received with l.ud cheers from both sides of the house.) BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Dir. M. J. O'CONNELL wiebod to call the attention • the house to a breach of its privileges wnich had been com mitted relative to one of im tribunals—namely, en election committee. The breach of privileges he c anplaineal of wan contained in an article which bad appeared in a newspap r called the Northern , Star, and for the better informatiou of the house he would move hat it be read by the clerk at the table. (The aricle which was then read, was to the effect that the people should be informed that Mr. F. Maule, the Secretary at War, had the nomination of the election cemmittees, end had nominated Mr. Morgan John O'Connell, the writer's (Mr. F. O'Cohnor's) deadly enemy, to the Nottingham committee, where he might be selected as chairman. The article fur ther complained that the subscriptiene for defending Mr. O'Connor's return went on as if those for whom he bad struggled int , tided to leave him to struggle by himself. (A laugh.) While the subscriptions for Mr. Reynolds's defence reached 2,0001. in one evening, his (Mr. O'Cionnot'a) sub - scriptioa bad not reached 4001. in • week, or about five farthings each from the m, miters of the Land Compaq. Such were the inducements held out to any gentleman to struggle for the light.; of the poor. (Laughter.) He (Mr. M. J. O'Conn.ll) had brought this miner forward not be e use any flambee of the chairman's panel or the general committee of elections cored for this sort of attack, but be thought it right that erroneous accounts should not go forth to the public on these subject.. The secretary-at-war bad no pow( r to select anv mem her for an election committee ; and, if fee bad, the parties conceiving themselves injured could at the proper time challenge upon cause. He thought this ex plena. ion sufficieut, hut, as a formal motion was newsary, be should, to setidy the form, move that the printer of the pest Sta r be summoned to the bar of that house. Mr. lIASTIE seronded the motion. Mr. F. O'CONNOR said, that, as proprietor of the poper to which allusion had been male, he should stand in place of the printer for any offenee it might have e ammite il. He then:ht that he hal only spoken consistently wish precedent and rxp.rience in detignn - ing the elemio cemmittets so many farces. It hehal said on ) thing Innen illy off neiveta the hen. mouth. r for Kt cry I e begged to tender to tied gen tleman Ms i mpel. Ile (Mr. O'Connor) hail suffered before from electiem committees, haimer ' een ousted ter want of qualificatee when he had a cl,ar 0,6401. a year, and did not owe a .1/Wire hs the world. (Lau. fl .r.) Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL said that ha had only brought the matter forward nn public motives, red, considering the hon. member's 'melee. ',efficient, be begged leave to with draw his motien.—Motion by hays withdrawn. EXPEDITION IN SEARCH OF Slit J. FRANKLIN. Mr. WYLD, who was very indistinctly heard, was un derstood to ask whether there was any truth in the rumour that, in eons- quenee ef the small le one ufferra, th-re was a great diMenity in ma nning the ships compesing the above pedalos% ? Admiral DUNDAS said thit there was no difficulty what ever. Volunteer , were offering in abundance, and the ships would very shortly sail fee their destination. INCOME 'TAX. Sir B. HALL raid ho had been &eked by several Irish members to fix a dey for hie motion relative to the extendon . of the incometax to Ireland, but he feared he could no: do so as yet, seeing that it would depend on the debate on the main qeettion. Ile should give them a decisive answer as loon as he had ascertaieed how they intended to vote on the increase . inennie tax for England. I Cheers.) SCATS AND MEANS.—THE BUDGET. Tito CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose to move the order of the day for a committee of ways and means. He thought it desirabl• ho shoal i avail himself of that importunity to vete moru fully than his t h e et the head of tee government bad done, the state ofpublic finances, and the course which the government intended to pursue. The resent state of the finances appeared in a Wince-sheet which had been laid on the table of the house. The first part coutainsd a compa rison between the income and ordinary expenditure of the country. From that sheet it appeared that there was an excess of expenditure over income for the year o endin f g the sth January Mat, to the amount of 2,956,001. O that sum, however, it would appear that 1.605,0001. was ex pended in the relief of distress in irelend. Now it had been distinct . the iutention of the house that that expense should have bee ) n provided for out of the 8,000,0004 lean, and con sequently it could not be put &twit as a charge wt the cede nary income. It was only fee, thergiore, to deduct that item from *he expenditure, and deducting it, the gross excess of expenditure over income up • Jan. last would be 1,400,0001. His noble friend in stating the income for last yeer had included 4.50,0001. on account of the Chinese repayment. But that sum had not lien received. It had remained in the eon- I miesariet cheat, from which advances had been made for the I Cape expenditure; and consequently the vote he bad oh- I rained on a former evening would eueble hint to draw it, and it would be received in the course of the present quarter. This would reduce the excess of the expenditure to about a , million, at the end of the financial year. His noble friend I had stated the probable excess at about 900,0001. It was ! not coy to anticipate what the income would be, because I he was sorry to say that the symptoms of revivin trade were not coming on so rapidly as write gentlemen ha g d mitt- ' cipated. income of the preecet quarter would be • hort of the conespeneing quarter of hut sear 400,000/. (Hear, hear.) They would, however, have some extraordinary re celeste in excess before the sth of April ; and he was not pre pared to sey that the aineunt of the deficiency might not be, to some extent, reduced. lie thought that, on the whole, he might fix the execss of expenditure above receipt up to April sth next at something short of one million. (lieu',, hear.) He must sly that, cousidering the eircurn. ' stances through which we had passed, and the extraordinary expenditure to which we had been subjected, he did not ! think the deficiency wee one at which there was any rearm I to tette alarm. (Hear, bear.) Suck was the state of intone and expenditure for the mean year, and he would now come I to the probable amount of both item', fur the year ending April 1819. His noh'e friend had stated what the total expenditure would Le, but it was notorious I that that expenditure was composed of various items, over some of which there was power of reduction, but others had been settled by act of parliament. First came the interest on the public debt, that on the funded debt twine 27,778,000/. per annum, and the untutored debt 7.12 000/. He meant Exchequer Bills. On d these latter the int , n st in March would be reduce to 2i. per dTheiern, but those due previous to that date must pay t he M.Therefore the total amount of the interest at the end of the financial year would b. :M.030,0001. The charges on the ceiesolideted feud also, which had been settled by act of parliament, must be add, d, and on them they. was an increase for the Irish consmindery. These charges amounted to 2,750.000/. There were three sources of expenditure in what was called the supply service. Of these a certain portion was for ! pensions and half pay, which could not be reduced. This, I the eoneef, etive service, ansountei during the present year to 3,660,0001. There, then, were thirty-five millions out of the annual expenditure over which the house had no I control whatever. (Hear, hear.) Even during the pre sent year, with increased estimates, the total amount for ' the expenditure of which the gore rennin was respensiele was 18,153,0001. It was theretore in round numbers not I fifty-three millions, but eighteen millions, on which economy I could be exercised. (Hear, hear.) it was eertainly true I that the estimates had very much increased of late year., hut I it was also true that they hail been increased with the will- I ing consent of the House of Cemmues. (Hear, he .r.) Ile I had commenced his public service as secretary to the Admi- I tarty übout twelve years since, and having held that office I for years, he could say that his principal duty had been de- I fending the Admiralty saainst ch ogee for net waking settle ! Lions. (Ilene, hear.) This was the more rem .rkable as the , propositions of the government had generally been for the increase of the effective, while the attacks of member of that I house were generally for increase of the none tfective ser vices. He had before hint various instances in which ex penses had been forced on the Admiralty by 'hat house; among others, the increase of at. amen, which had been warmly uretd by the hon. member for Montrose. Having gone over the various items of increase in tee naval expendi ture in terms nearly similar to those used by the hon. mem berfor Sheffield on a previous ev, ning, the right hon. gen denim' prececitt d to say that it was not quite fair to charge all these items as iectram of the naval esti mates. It wee not Itir in those clauses who had most loudly called for increased facilities of correspondence to cemplein of the increased expense of the packet service. (Hear, hear.) Even the most economic '1 membas of dhat house often pressed for measures which entailed considerable exp. n-e. The hon. member for Mentro e had suggested the tidal commision; others thought that lighthouses should cease to be a local charge, and be added to the charge on the consolidated fund. This might be a goad change, but it would cost /20,000/. a year. Again, in the army expenditure, he fouud that of the increase 261,0001. ha I been incurred by the improvements in reai mental schools and hospital,. The paver'-meet was not to blame if the improvements entailed expense. He could only say t h at the necessary number of men could be maintuiued (without the late improvements) at 640,0001. less than the amount charged. In the ordnance department there had also been some increase; but that increase was mainly owing to the improvements in the armament of strainers, both in great guns and muskets, and surely it was necessary that this branch of the public terries should keep pace with every ! improvement in science. (Han, hear.) Another serious expense during the previous year had been the greerel sub stitution or the percussion for the flint musket, which w completely vindicated by the well known incident in the Chinese war, when a party of British soldiers were unable to tire their flint guns in consequeuce of the wet, and would all have be en slaughtered but tor the opportune arrival of a party of marines armed with percussion trunk The next item was the miecellaneous estimates. Over these the govern meat hod co.erel, and his noble friend had immediately after his r.ccessien to office announced his intention of ap pointing a committee to inquire into them. But, by a return which he held in his hand, it app-and that most of the increases in those estimate a had been forced on the go vernment by the House of Commune. Harhours of r, fuge, 110,00)1., had been reeommen .ed by a select committee. Then there we. 50,0001. for the Caledoeian COMO, and 17,0001. for auditors of poor-law unions ; 27,01)01. had been voted to the commissioners of public works in Ireland on the plea that they were under paid, end 101,0001. for pudic pro. secutiens. Then there was 120,0001. for education, and 50,00.11. for the British Museum. With one or two other items, this aggregate math, upwards of one million of in crease, which had been adopted by the government in cenfertney with the wishes of the Howse of Commons. (Hear, hear.) Another source of expen diture which had been alluded to as wasteful was the collection of the rever.ue. There was no doubt but that some saving might he made in the collection of the mentos ; but then, a e whenever a reduction of officers was promised, there was cnerel clamour from the merchants that their business was ointructed. 110 had spoken to his friend and namesake, the chairmen of the Boatel of Customs, on the subject, who had told him that in two or three cases where it was thought that officers might he withdrawn, the bare rumour of their removal brought down a ' , bower of rem oestre Imes from the merchants. Re believed, therefore, he was correct is retying that the gr, ater portion of the, increase was is attendance with the opi nion of farce majorities of the house, and in many iustauces L. sonfor:uity with theopinions of the people—(hear)—and not in consequence of any wish on the part of the govern meet unneecemrily to increase the expenditure of the coun try. (Hear, hear.) It was always the interest of the go vernment, and of the Chancellor of the Exchequer in parti cular, to reduce the expenditure as far as was consistent with the due mainteuence of the public enahlishmenta. It teas pos sible that reductions might be made in the force of the army and nary ; that some saving might, by a careful teen:limn tion and revision, be made in the mode of paying and the expense of that force. Se also it might be possible to make some r elections in the miscellaneous estimates ; but, though this might lie possible, it was only right that he should on the pert of the government st a te, that they had not proposed a force sneerer thee they considered, under the eireantstauces of the country, indispensable. (Hear.) He need not do more than simply allude to events which had occurred since they proposed that amount of force to in duce eiliedenths of Vie hon. members present to agree with him that it would oat be expedient at the present time to make any redaction in the ammiut of thenaval and military tore, p. pesed. (Hear, beer.) On this mint, therefore, the house must diatiuctly understarel that government ad hered to the maintenance of the fire* d !nendsd. With re. geed to the expenditure for these services the came was no iteuht in some te gree d.fferent, and no one would rejoice mom than hiinselt if, by some clia . .ge in the mode of pay- mein, or any wher arrangement, it should he fund that, even in the estimates now on the lathe, tiny reduction of ex pense cool I he effected; and w.th regard to the mite celLaneous estimates, which he admitted he had nut gone very car fully through, if the result of inquiry should be to show that any reduction could safely be made he should be mast happy. He should, however, deceive the heure if he said thet, ci , her as the result of further investigatien by goy remelt or by a committee or the house, ho thought any mate red reelection could be elected within the ensuing fin rnsial year. It thould be rem , where] that in many cases au 1r.cr.. , 0 1 expenditure would be u e visiosied be a reduction of force. If they were to reduce the navy by 5,003 men they c 111.1 not altord the meareof teller when regnire I, tied lb y must pay off a large number of men, which would even sieu an millions to the estimates. In like manta' it would ho bed tcsnoiny, and occasion an ultimate 11.14 to the coons try, to step the works in preemies in the dockyards and where. 'the only way to reduce the expenditure safely was to complete the wurke in hared, and then to reduce genteelly, as eine,. I circumstances might from tient to time justify, Geverument had shown their Anxiety to meet the down , ler ' econo ray in the 'auntie exeendiruns by preposing two t mittet a, one to hoptire into the estimates for the army and navy, and the In her the Ml,e , lialte.u.. He could not, how ever, say he expo,:-e'l, even we , n the Admen exertions of those c met:et, es, that any intros, 'ine reduction would be effected, whoever might b • the result in suirsequent years. With tegart t the charges for the Kaffir wear d naval excess, elfish had he: n already voted, the.e had, as on all preview occestens its which such charm.' lied arieere—as in the case of the Chios war and the Cansdirn ieencrectron—boen chsreed to the expenditure of the ensuing year. His noble friend had she ed the estimated income of the year at 51,250,0001. The customs they had estimated at 19,770,0001. lie admitted there was great difficulty, after the two yens we hel gone through, one of mereordiwary promenity end tie .t er ore:Unordinary difficulty, in arri hag at any accurate e s timate of what the receipt from this wince would be. The hest guide perhaps was the (mineras veripts of 1815-0, a year f prv-petity, and the one which fellow. d immediately open the redurtiens in our castor:le deities n.ade by the right- hon. baruntt (B,r R. Petl), and they had taken the miaow at THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 29, 1848. that amount. He had full faith that trade would levies, bat seeing that the adverse eirennutances of the previous year did not tell upon the revenue until the July quarter, though the failure in the harvest had token plus in the autumn et 1846, so he did not anticipate that the improved careemeitances would tell favourably upon the revenue to any material extent until towards the later quartets of the year. Toe right hm. gent raw% then recapitulated the various items of revenue with their estimeted produce, as already stated by Lira J. Ituseell in brinaing forward the budget, th e sum total being 61,210,0001. Lie did nut take into acceunt the repay meet ef advances to Ireland—first, humus° as the repay meats of the money ad minced last year wore by the arrangement thee made to ex tend over a period of ten year., the yearly amount would be very smell; and ate-madly, because, as lie had already stated, ministers would be prepared to readvauce to such districts as might require the a pay went., air the puepee of making row's and other works, by wheat employment wo u ld be given to the people. lie hal stated the eaimeted income and ex penditure without providing for any surplus of revenue over receipts, which, however &amebic, under ordinary cireum strum ministers di.l not think art ceseary, under the preant circumstances of the country, to insist upon in their budget. In preparing the estimates, ho bad assumed that the income tax would, in consequence of the losses in trade, produce only 5,200,0001.—that was taking it at its pi mient rate—and supposing that the tax would be re-enacted at thet rate, there would he a deficiency on the whole estimates of ab iat 3,0e0.0001. Findine each a di ficiency, it became the duty of MilliStCTS to tee in what way it could be met. Awl net being willing to resort to a loan—which was objected to by all parties—(hear, hear) — they looked back to what hod heel the financial policy of parliament for the loot few years. In 1812, when there was a deficiency in the revenue, the right hon. barouct (Sir 11- Peel) proposed—partly to meet such deficiency, and partly to enable him to reduce indirect taxes taming on the necessaries of file, and on the raw materials of manutacturing —the imposition of a tax upon property and income. The right hen. baronet stated that ho proposed thattax as a sort of commutation for indirect taxatiou, and he proposed to exempt persons of an income below acertaia amount trom the tax, in order that cc for poseilile It should fall exclusively on the rich. In tullowing years the right hon. baronet reduced the duties on many of the arta ' cies of general consumption—as corn, butter, cheese, and subsequently the duties on timber, sugar, cotton wool, wool, shed other art:cles which it was needless to enumerate. Li rt, between 1842 and 1817 the country hail been bene fited by the remiwion of taxes to the exams of 7. 400 , 0001 . He might betold that he (the Chencellor of the Exchequer) capered the income tax iu 1812. (Hear, bear.) Nu doubt he did so. (Hear, hear.) The ground upon which he ai opposed it wee, Chet it was rot worth the price they were called upon to pay for it t but that if the duties on corn, timber, sugar, and other articles were altered, he should be they. r, sly to vote fur the suientutien of direct for inaia et I taxtvion. Those duties hail bet* so altered ; therefore the ' eireametances which, in his opinion, would justify an income tax had occurred. (Hear.) Ile bud vote :or the renewal of the tax in 1845 as a substitution of direct taxes for such in direct taxation; and on that ground be now proposed its continuance. (Hear.) But, whatever was the else in 1812, let the house remember what twek place in lea The in come tax had then been helloed during three scars. There was no deficiency to be made up ; but, on the contrary, there was a largo surplus. The right bon: baronet came down and stated that there weeld be a probable sur plus fur the year of 5,000,0001. Ile had it, consequently, in his power to repeal the income tax if he came, at a risk of a deficiency of not more than 20J,000/. Bat the right hoe, baronet, carrying nut the policy he had indicated in 1842, proposed to contiritie the income tax for three yearn longer, and to repeal or further reduce those tale. which pressed on articles of general consumption, or on the raw materials of manufacture—(hear, hear)—:and the house unanimously concurred in that propoeitlen. (Hear, hear.) Various integrations, it was true, were made to extend it to Ireland ; to change the mode of its applicafion, in order to make it more equal, but no one propelled its repeal. (Hear.) Ile for one ,iistin tly stated his o; )i )) ion, that if the house then (in 1813) cemented to re-enact the bill for three years, wed the proposed alterations in the customs duties should be carried out, it would be impossible at the end of that ',tried to abandon it ; and in answer to that remark the tight hon. member fur Cambridge University a iid that was laying the ground for the future support of the tax. (Hear.) No men could reasonably expect then that the income tax would cease at the end of this second three years. Such being the course of legisla tion on the subject, it would have been rather an extra ordinary course for government now to have tome fireweed awl proposed the reversion of the derision SO unanimously given by parliament three yearn before. If they had done so, and suggested the re-imposition of indirect taxes which airmerly were levied on corn, cotton, sugar, tanner, and other articles, they might fairly have been charged with running their heads against publics opinion, and the expressed views of the House of Commons. Con eeguently they premised as their first measure the renewal of the present income tax fur a limited time : whether that time were five or three years would be a ques tion for the committee to ucterntine. But ministers pro posed five because they di I not think that the increasi d con sumption of thee articles up en which the duties Fad been reduced would in a shover period arrive at that punt which would enable them to dispense with the income tax. (lieu, hear.) This would have brought up the income to a1,ea0,0001., still leaving a considerable deficiency. The question then was, how to meet thii deficiency ? The ex istence of such deficiency would, as he had before st eta, he hut temporary. It wan obvious that such items as tee Katlic war and naval cut m would cease with the mascot year, as would also a considerable potion of the t epee& ore for the works tat our dockyards, the greater portion of which would he completed in eighteen months or two years. They a'so lookeil to a gradual reduction of some other items, as the charge for the new houses of parliament. liu a-, therefore, justified in saying that the increased expeuiliture would be but fur a time. This being the case, and seeing that the d:ficieney in the revenue wou.d ac but temporary, ministers thought it would he unwise to meet it by u new tax. (Hear, he sr.) It was true they might have ptoposei a per centage on some eater existing tax, as the assessed taus, an experiment which they had formerly tri when a deficient revenue had to be met, and which had then been successful. Leader, ever, at the produce of the am-sea tax- s for some years back, and finding that it had during the last four or live years teen falling off, and total not tnereforo be depended upon for any certain they had thought it upon the whole preferable to propose en additional per centaee to the income tax. Ana they had done am for these re aeons, that by sulaiest two per cent. to that tax they would be certain of obtaining the required increase of 8,000,0001., and that without any additional expense for collection. And however painful it uniloithteilly was either to propose a new tax or to pay it—(a laugh)—he won still of opinion that the most economical and than meet advantageous mode of pro viding for this teinporary d. II ienty was in th it way. (Hear.) In the previous eilecussiens many questions had been raised as to the mode of imposing the tax. The lion. baronet the member fer Marylebone (Sir B. HnI1) had proposed that it should be extended to Ireland. (Imeid cheers.) In hie opinion, if the tax were continued beyond what was neces sary to meet the temporary emergency, it was a tax in which Ireland as well as Greta Britaiu ought to share. (Hear, hear.) But though Ireland might be able to hear such a t ix under ordinary cireutnsta .ei a it was a question whether while suffering team the anat.:ea-nee* of the recent famine, and in her present state of general depression, she could do so, and he believed it would be most alexia dint now to im pose it, inasmuch as it would dianunge the exertions which the gentlemen and ferment were no making to give emeleymeet to labour, and permanentl w y to imp rove the condition of the country. He would ask the house to consider the large increase which had bees mule of late in the rates levied for the relief of the poor in Ireland under the po law. lu 1816 the amount of peer rate col lected was 390,0001. ; in 1847 it was 970,000!.—(hear) and within the last few months the increa s e had been ball greater. The amount collected in the hat three mouths of 1846 was 109,000/., in the corremandine three months of 1817 it was 441,0001. ; mire titan quadruple increase. See that return (which was on the table) government had received an account of the January collection, which amounted to 190,0001., while the January collection of the ' previous year was only 52,090/. The fact was, that they were now cullectirg the pair rate iu Ireland at the rate of 2,000,0001. a year. Looking, therefore, at the circum stauces in which that country had been placed by the recent ealamity, and the impertance of keeping the collectien of the poor rate as the legitimate meal* of providing for tee destitution of the enuntry, he thought it would he most impolitic to impose additional burden upon Ireland at present, (Hear.) lie doubted either whether an income tax upan Ireland would be so productive Rs some imagined. In Scotland the anaemia produced was so small as to lead one almost to suppose that it was not Wily im posed—that amount being only 400,0001. a year. For these realms, therefore, it vats not propene now to extend the opera tion of the tax to Ireland. On these grounds, it was that ministers had prop -peed the renewal of the income tax, as et present imposed, far a limit, d Cme, and an ircrease of two per cent. fur two years, when they believed the m. 0. ., y for such increase would cease. He had been asked to give a pledge that if should not ext nil beyond two year:, tut he considered it very unw'se to bind himself by ant pr anise e t that kind. (Laughter.) Who could say what Wight be the thugs , of circumstances in two yearn, or even is a much shorter peried? (Sara Haw long was it since thew heal heart an hon. gentleman (Ur. Cobden), recently a;rivea from France, declare •• t. at there amid be no obj-et in a ! revolution in that country ? " (Prot etionist and ministe rial cheers.) The 'facet and best men might be mieica anted l or mistaken ; but not only the hon. gentleman to I whom he alluded, but every bonourahle member of that house most be aurprised at the events which within tiee last few days had taken place in teat esuntry. (War, hear.) ' He had, however, given that which was Maser than *pinion —he gave the facts which hal induced him to believe that the necessity for the increased tax would net last beyond the two years. Taking the increase of revenue arising from articles of consumption and the met. rial of manufacture upon which duties had be en reduced, and supposing that increase to go on at the same rate for the next two years, no one coital cutertain a reasonable doubt that It would not be neecwary that the increase 4 tax Itheuld con tinue beyond that time. Such, then, were the proposals made by the government. They were proposals calling on the cetarry to continue for a limited time the ineeme tea, iu the same mear.er and to the SIMS &meant they bad paid it for nearly six years past ; and far a shorter ;serial, and to meet a temporary emergency, they had been coked to coasent to an increase of that tax. Now he could not say that the proposals the goverement bad so made had been well received. (Chem and laud laughter.) He war bound to admit that from all quit ters of the house, and from all parts of the country, they bad received the most unequivocal demenst rations of dim eproval at that proposition of tne increase of two per cent. (C facia ) Even those hon. gentlemen who on former occasions had supported the change from indirect to direct taxation had been amongst the loudest in denouncing this hiesease. (Cheers.) The hon. member for Cocktrmouth given notice of a motion to render the tax less unequal in its operation, and the right hon. member for Portsmouth had complained of its inequali ye but had not shown in what way it could be altered for the better. It bad been pro posee in its present shape by Mr. Pitt, an d was reimposed e on the same principle by the riht hon. baronet, and h g doubted whether by any change that could be suggested inequality and injustice would be altogether obviated. Then with regard to the suggestion for providing for the defi ciency by extending the legacy duty to real property, and others which had been made, there was probably muck to be said on the other side. lie, however, gave uo Al he would say was that these questions were not so simple as at first sight they appeared to be, and could only be dealt with after mature inquiry, and upon the principle —which he admitted tube the correct one—thattexca should press iu equal proportion upon all classes. Thin, however, could not be done in dealing with any one particular tax. But whatever might lie the opinion in this respect, there could be no doubt that there was a universal enneerrence in the objection to the proposed increase of two per cent. in the income tax. (L out cheering.) He still thought that pro- posal was one which it would have been far the ultimate benefit of the country to have sup ported ; but on the part of the government ho must say that if there wee anyone eubject on which the eepresentatives had a right to direct the government mere than another it was that of taxation. (Hear.) And (said the r:ght hon. gentle man) with that f cling it is that I now announce on the part of her Majesty's govern.ncnt that they will not ;trees those resolutions which apply to an addition of the income tax. (Laughter, and much cheering.) I repeat that Ido so not wiehout regret, for I think that in the present cir cumstances of the coutitry a full exchequer is an important matter, and I am very sorry to have to draw upon those halences which arc high at present, and which, on a recent caxesion, afforded us the means of instantly relieving the distress of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) Nevertheless Ido not think it would be wise on the part of any government to at tempt to force on an unwilling Wane of Commune an un popular tax. (Hear, hear.) The eight bon. gentleman added thet he proposed the charges for the Katfir war and the naval excess should be defrayed out of the Exchequer balances of the present year. This would reduce the ex penditere for the next year by 1,321,009/., and leave, sup posing the continuance of the present income tax, a defi ciency of between one-and a-half and two millions. No doubt the balances in the Exchequer were high at the present time—higher, in fact, than in any previous year. If they were to rely upon high balances in periods ot ad versity, they might be enetiled to keep up the ordinary average of the revenue. So that in the course of three or four years the revenue and expenditure would be equal. But, then, that could not be, unless the house consented to rent w the income tax in its present shape for three years. Within that period such an improvement inieht be effected in the revenue, and such reduction made in the expenditure as might bring them to a point el equality, although forced to call upon the belances this year. He did not pledge his self or tine government to this count—he men ly said it was the course which they might ultimately pursue—leaving it open to them to prope.e instead such an muou.nt of taxation, in another shape, as would balance the minima of expenditure of the year. He could not bo fairly expected to state the preche intention of I the government on the subject, further than that they abandoned any increase of the income tax, and called upon the house to renew it for three years. He regretted that the opinion of the house had led to this ennclueioo. lie be lieved it would have beea more advantageous that an in ert's-el burden should have been submitted to for a while ; at the same time that he also believed that they might, either by reductions or by increased taxation in some other way, ultimately equalise the income and expenditure. The rieht hon. gentleman concluded by moving the order of the day f going into a cemrnitt ce of ways and means, for the pur pose of moving a resolution to continue the income tax for three years. (Cheers.) Mr. HUME regarded the right hon. gentleman's plan, excepting the withdrawal of the 2 per cent. income tax, es nothing more than a restatement of that of the noble had. The right hon. gentleman proposed no ineteilication of that e , x, no change of any kind, that could render it more palataele, while he admitted that it wes both unequal ane unjust in its operation, and that it had been adopted by that. , !muse on condition of being only temporary. He (Mr. Hume) hoped the , house would not consent to its renewal at all, particularly after hearing treat the right hon. gentleman and the noble lord that they would not meddle with the military or naval forces of the country. (Hear, hear.) Mr. B. OSBORNE likewise °pm's el it. It was not, he stud, so much the additional two per cent. that the indus trious classes objected to, as the principle of an income tax. In hie estimation and in eh. ire it was miens, iniquitous, and unjust ; and, considering that the house had been eutrepied into its adoption for a temporary period only, by the right hon. baronet the member for lantworth, he thought that the present Chancellor ..f the Exchequer 'hewed a miserable poverty of invention in having no liethr proposal to make than its coin inuanee. Mr. CARDWELL eaid that 03 the noble lord had granted a reasonable period of lime fir considering his pro ',mama, he hoped the right hon. gentleman would not ob ject to follow the noble loves example, as his proposition defend from the noble lord's in some important respects. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER felt the free of the hon. centlemee's appeal, eitel consented to post pone the coesideretion of the questien to Friday next. (Ilear, hear.) Mr. GLADSTONE rejoiced that the right hon. gentleman had done ren particularly as he had not clearly understand that they had before them yet the budget for the year. The right boo. gentleman he belie red spoke of providieg for the 1,500.0001. out of the balences in the Exchequer, and the vote f r the Kaffir war and nasal exeess iike man .r. But there was e delielency of 1,500,0001., or n 2, 1 000,0001., e still to be provided for, and the right hen. gentleman did not clearly explain whether he intended meeting that deficiency front the same source, or by additional taxation, or whether he bed cny fixed intention upon the euhjech It would be advlsable to know what e ens, the government meant to pursue before they came to discuss the question of renewing the income tax. ((Hear ) The C. II AN C ELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the 1,600,e0e1 first alltutel to by the right hen. gentlem referred n account of Irish distress; and lie would find, if he to the balance sheet of the sth Jan., that it had been already provided lor. The 10100 to be voted on account of the Kaffir war and the naval reeve, was 1,345,0001., and that sum he proposeed to defray out of the balances in the Exchequer, weed' balances amounted on the sth of January to 8,100,0001.; mid euppoeiug the income of the quarter to equal the expenditure, those balances would iu that c bo reduced on the sth of April to about 7,000,0001. Then came the question of the right hon. gentleman which referred to the ordinary income and expenditure of the year, commencing s:h April, ISIS, end ensang sth April, 184,9; and to the deficiency nu tee . rdinary revenue of the present year, which he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) bud stated would probably amount to 1,500,0001. et* 2,000,0001. Ito exci out otthiatti;el4e lanhaced,sianidolehatlieth,wq.uts,liesasnieefit,oateleifneatyhaitt ewe, no additional taxation would be required. Looking to the distressed state of the country, and w the circumstance that such a sum might be drawn from those balances without diminishing them to an inconvenient extent, he thought the such a course was possible; but he said also, that it seas a coarse which he was very unwilling to adopt. He coosidered it desirable to meintaiu full balatmes in the Ex chequer, and he was unwilling to reauce them ; at the seine time he wished to let the house perceive, that if the government should determine on that course, although one which they did not reeneureend nor pledge themselves to follow, they would not be reducing those balances to an in convenient amount ; for, oa the sth April, 1839, they were only 497,0001., in 184,0 they were 1,000,900/., in 1841, 856.0001. is 1842, 867.0001 in 1843, 954.000 e, in 1841, 2,200,00f/1., in 184.5.6,`200,00 01., in 1846,6..500,0001., in 1847, 6,400,000/. ; and if, as he had said, the Meanie equalled the expenditure on the sth Januery lust, those balances would be 8.400,0001., or on sth April next about 7,000,0001. Sup. posing, then, that they deducted the present deficiency of 1,500.0001.. hese balances would amount on sth April next to 5.500,0001. Mr. WAKLEY thought it kind hut not wise of the right hon. gentleman to postpone hie reeeeetion to Friday. It weula have been uch better if he had withdrawn it alto gether. As foe th e budget nf the eoble lord, it was a bubble ' which had alre dy bunt. Whatever there was of substance in it was annihilated and gone. The right hon. gentleman found that he could :teeny pay the expenses of the year without any increase of taxateen. As he (Mr. Wakley) bed Led on • former occasion, the whir were made ot materials which were capable of much ecmpression. (A laugh.) The dtelsration of the a able end not to interfere in the in ternal affairs of Franco would, he weir sure, Rice great sa. tisfeetion. Sir H. VERNEY thought that the select committee might be productive of geed. There were Dewy meinry departments which might be censoliduted, and many ex penses, which might be curtailed or done away with if pro, perly innetieated. (Hear, he sr.) !Mr. F. BARING did not aeree with the hon. member for Finsbury as to the effect upon the country of the present proposition of the government. lie tammet, on th. con trary, tie et the country would remise it with sincere gratifi cation. Upon all snejects, but Mere esoecially upon that of taxation, the country had a right to expect treat due come eertitiox nd weight would be 'tom,' 1., its opie ion. (Hair,' hear.) lie considered it not very fair, therefore, on the pane[ these gentlemen a no deemed to represent toe populet I mind in that boner, to be the first to taunt the govenerceut with bringing forward a p'en and fonallieg it shortly atter, in cootquence of the pop'ilsr outer, egotist it. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the balances in tee Exchequer, he thought ft perfectly fair thst ch an item as the nava ex- I eess, which was nut an expense such of this year, but of former years, should be paid out of those balances, increased to its present amount by the surplus of former years. In the very yer of that naval excess wo placed iu the Exchequer 2,e00,0001., and it would he hard if it might not be paid bath iu a season of distress. But he believed that money was spent an I ream out of the Exchequer balaeces alrealy. The some olecrvation, if correct, applied to the rep-nee of the Eel& war. The money was spent, and weenier they voted it or not, they could not diminish the balances in the Exche quer. lie was sorry that hon. gentlemen should endeavour to ridicule the appointment of cum-Mares intendel to bring down an expenliture which hail been annually in creasing, for that was • system of revenue that could not be suffered to continue. (Hear, bear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that his impression was that the sums to which his fight hon. friend had referred were net included in the balances which had ben mentioned ; and the expenses of the Cadre wee would be met tram the commissariat chest. Mr. COISDEN felt bound, on behalf of a large con stiteency, to say that he did not thiiet it peseiole for any government t i maintain an income-tax of 3 per emit, where the weight of to:sale.. was not upon feted pro- perty. (Cheers.) The proposition now made by the go vernment had raised a question throughout the country — had thrown the public mind eeseatially upon the question that a complete change ought to be made M the whole flee: arrangements of the country. This feeling had shown itself already in Liverpool, where an association had been formed with a view to enforce a more equitable system of taxation. At present the country had not got out of her difficulties, and the right lion. gentleman the Chaucellor of the Exche quer did not appear to be prepared with any alternative, ex - cept that he proposed to take money from the reser' , d funds ; but still he left a progressing and increasing difficulty; because the right hon. baronet had told the house and the country that in the present quar ter there was &deficiency in the revenue of 400,0001., al hough only two months of that quarter had passed. lie (Mr. Cobden) was therefore the m /re convinced that the expendi tore of the country ought to be brought within the Haifa of its income. When on a forme r occasion he hail spoken of the possibility of a social revolution in France he was not prepared for such a political revolution as the ;oat few days had exhibited. He had sot been prepuce for the exhibi tion of such insanity on the part of a ministry, or of such madness in the penon of a monarch. (Loud cheers.) Still he did not thir.k that this event afforded any ground for the increase of the establishments of this country. At the Same time he must reserve that any man of common sense , would adopt the MAXith, that if his neighbour was quarrel ling with his household, he was not in a position to quarrel with the neighbour; and therefore if it was the policy of the dominant party 1112 this comets) , to avoid • collision with France, nothing could be easier than to avoid that collision. Of this he had no doubt, that Eng land was the last country that France would ever think of attacking; but at the same time he must state his belief that unless the people took the question into their ens n bends, there was dammed war if the question was loft wi the Foreign Secretary. Ile (Mr. Cobden) warned the country to be watchful of whet was impending. This come try was not going to war with France to maintain despotic powers in other parts of the world ; but if France attacked England, he (Mr. Cobden) was not quaker enough—(luud llitehter, in which Mr. Bright joined)—to re t tranquil, sad say that we would remain neutral. He rejoiced, however, to find that the consideration of the income tax was to be deferred until Friday next, and he was gl dtiat a week would be goo n to consider the government proposition. Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said that so hon. gentleman had asked whether the government would consent that the debate should be adjourned, mid when ha right hon. friend (the Chandler of the Exchequer) h consented to that course it was only fair that the dissuasion of the proposition should stand adjourned. He (Lord J. Ruesell) del not think it quite fair to suspend the discussion of the measures propounded by the government unless that discussion was to be brought to a conclusion. After what he (Lord John Mussel!) had Matod at as early period of the evening, he could hardly say a word more can, pt that he telt called upon to reply to one portiere of the spa eh of the hon. member for the West Riding of Yorkshire. He (Lord J. Rumen) again declared, and he was perfectly sincere in that declaration, that the government did not mean to interfere with the internal arrangements which France was now making. The government would not he induced, either b coteries or claire, to go to war with France .; and he (laud J. Russell) reiterated that it was nut the retention of the goy. raiment to interfere in any way whatever with the set tlement of eflaire waich France .night think fit to make in reference to her own internal government. (Hear, hear.) As neighbours nod f. ieuds, he should wish that any institu clew 1 ranee might adopt would tend to her owe prosperity I and, pending those arrangements, he hoped that England would not refuse the sacred duties of hesentolity, or abandon I a character fur which she had over been diatieguiabed of affording an asylum fur the vanquished and the unfortu nate. (Cheers.) Mr. DISItAELI said he was not one to carry on a gue ril: t warfare with the government after the postponement which had been conceded by the right hon. baronet the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He must, howeser, observe that the natieu livedue an age of revoiution, and that while on the other side of the Channel a leading member of the senate had declered his adhesion to a regency, and yet in the same day had Ocetared in favour of a reseiblic ; they nad in those days a budget proniu:guted by one officiel—a second was intimated from ...other source, and probably a third might be submitted to the conaidere eta of the legisla. rare. Seven years ego there bud been a ,elicit of 2,560,0001. in the revenue, but since that time, though ebunuant mum a of revenue had been realised, a similar deficit existed. One of the items was that fitio,o:4l. was required in the navy estimates fur the packet service. New he (Mr. Disraeli) wanted to know what was the clear annual revenue derived from the Post. Mike deparoueut. It was said to amount to 000,010/., but gut it was unexplained. Indeed, the Chan cellor of the Exchequer acknowledged that there was a great and indefensible expenditure of the revenue of the nation, and he had brawn LOU whole odium of th .t lavish expendi ture upon the Common house of parliament, instead of epee the government of which he was a member. The right hon. gentleman who tiled the chair of the house ought to vindicate the ameuthly against such an aspersion. (Hear, hear.) But the hon. member far the 11 est Riding of York-hire had announced a new league—a new combination to obtaia • reform of the fiscal regulations of the country. This was a very alarming announcement, es ally when it was rememuered what the former con federation of welch the lion. memeer was the head had accomplished. It could not be forgotten that he had cimeged tho minds end intentions of the then ministers, and he (Mr. Disraeli) could not but think that there was much mis chief in the shell with which the country was now threat ened. And he could not help believing that when the elec tors of the West Reline were appeal.: to by die hon. mem ber echo now urged toe reform of fiscal regulations they would pause to iequirs into tae effects of their form sing the previaus counsel and advice of the hon. ielltitlhall on the subject of commercial reform. Would not this association lend to a fruitless, barren, and toepoilitebie agitation ? (Hear, hear.) But when the legidatare was called upon to raise two or three miserable minions of dea der:icy, let them remember the evidence given before the Import duties committee, by one who was the foundation of lemleni and who had induced one of their ab'est etstesmea to take his bases as his rule—he alluded to the evidence of the hon, member for Glasgow (Mr. Mac gregor), who before teat committee had declared that if the corn and provision laws were repealed there would be an increase of revenue of moot thin 100 000.0001. This state ment would be found at pure 68 of the voluminous blue book. And e et, with this promise, there was a deficit or 2,600,0001. now, as before, to be provided fur. When the hou. member for the West Riling declared that he was prepared again to raise the standard of agitation, he wished to know whether they were to fall without a struggle, and who weuld be the enemy ' to beencounte red. The tiommember stood as the supporter of a hankrupt exchequer and has appealed to a revolutionary nation. Free trade he'd proved to be a greet, ex .ggeration. These were hueithatine circum stances to bear iu mind. and he deeply deplored such a courses of proceediug. With regard 1.0 the proposed income tax, it was a war tax, and ou,cht to be touched very delicately by the Commons' house of parliament. Mr. MACGREGOR denied that he had been the author of the measures of the right hon. baronst the member fur Tamwerth—to whom belonged the credit of the commercial reforms which had been carried out. With regard to his (Mr. Macgregor's) evidence before the import duties com mittee, there was nut one word which ho whined to blot out. Mr. BRIGHT said he felt bolted to congratulate the go- , verement on the ehauge in their finamial policy. It wan a very wholesome thing that the government did not set them selves in opposition to so strong an expression of the public leeling as had been manifested since Friday week. (Hear.) Let them bear in mind that the country had differed with them very materially on two points,--ate to the increase of the tax, and as to the omission of any discrimination in the way in which it was levied. He hoped that, on Friday. the government would be prep teed to make ogee such discrimi nation. (Hear, hear.) He believed there was a great disp?sitiou in the country to submit to • considerable portion of the taxes being raised directly ; they should not only be direct, but also equal and t. Every one admitted that the income tax, is heretofore levied. find not been equal and just; and hence tie dissatisfaction that was felt with it. The house must have been amused at seeing a county member, the hon. member for Suckinghacithire (Mr. Disraeli) come for ' wara uad reiterate sophisms with respect to revenue and taxation such as the weavers of Lancashire and Yorkshire would be asliameil to utter. (Hear.) There was a time when that hon. member and hia party might have sat on the ministerial bt Dates, if they had chosen: what would they have done in the last two year. ? Would they have sus pended the corn Lew or not? If they hid suspended it, would they have imposed the duties again before the e l ot March next? (Ilea:, herr.) Why, the noble lord tile member for Lynn had told the present go vernuesat that they laid not relaxed the r, strictions soon ehoogh, and he actually blamed them for not sending to foreign countries and buying tame stores so as to bring iv. I more corn than had beets oruught in. Tito effect of' the sus poesien had been an import of 16 miliiona of quarters of train in 16 mendu. %Veda the lion. OA, miner for Bucking hamshire hese kept out that quantity of Arain, and thereby caused sumo millions of hiscountrymea to be now mouldering in their CUM? Mr. 111SRAELL—It would have come in. BUlLiiiT.—Then the ri salt would have bran the I , same as now. Did the hon. nacm'ier then complain that it had not come in in the riot t month or et ek, or in the right chip+ ? The hon. members opposite hail been clearly nos taken in their enormnue estimate of the Isesis the agreculm ral body wool lea tain. (Hear, hear.) It was notorious that :or the last Li mouths the most prosperous part of the c ,nitnuoity had been the eeltivators and pemessurs of land. It had been alieged that all the gold we told leave the coun try and would go to build suanufacteriee abroad. But the country which had taken the leased portion of ear gold, the Cieited States, had taken twice or tiarice the qua.ttity (guar manuiecturesthat it didbefore. (Hear.) Thus all the prophecies of hon. g n•letuen opposite had proved utterly unautistantial. (Hear.) the league nor the hen member for Terreworth had assem,d to regulate We seasons ; but the recent famine bad pet the seal to the cmd, umatem of the pr itectioniet aseHey. POT any one to stand up now and defend the corn laws was the greatest surance he had ever known. (Cheers.) He did net oedeve that 1 return to the old policy would ever lie del:winded, even by the Backinglianish;re. tarmen—etrt i:a'y not by the weavers of Yorkshire and Lulea-hire. (blear, hear.) Such a peeped would raise a creator storm of ireliguetion than the incro:.m of the income toe or anything else. (Cheers.) Ile should postpone his GU/11M referiing to the probate and legacy duties wit the right Lon. the Chancellor of the Ex chequer should again propose an addition to the taxation of the country. If the prebate and legacy duties were looked into they would be fueled to involve, the groeseA injustice ; and though the people might not object to pay the nee'e expenses of the government, the crying injusticeinjusticewiths: s a the taxes had bean levied for many years past demanded a speedy remet (Hear.) Mr. BAN ES denied that the hon. member for Mancha- ter had correctly repreee•nted the prophee. tioniate. They bad said that the first parte the tree-trade delusions would ►a the opera facrurets themselves. Had not the proph., (Hear, herr.) He doubted that the peer culturi‘te was so great as that hon. Ray,, for they, in common with other chap, b a d at the threatened increase of tte j aw .. t , Mr. F. O'CONNOR wail 'nippyt o hear Ilion had operated on the miniory ; but in changing, they had split on the old rock of quer. More than once the country had ke into office with a full exchequer, and leave one. (Hear.) Colouci BIBTIIORP was glad the " harked back," and he would recommend fut how t'4ey ?ot to tem again without comp Mr. 'AIIINTZ advised her Majesty's be led away by the statement of the rir the cornier I.r Portsmouth, that the in wine tax to 3 per cent. would be rece:ved faction by the country. lie believed tha decidedly opposed to the income tax of hear.) With respect to payments out what was to be done if there wen than the rigtt hon. gentleman contempt, would have to make up the deflaieney, or el not be paid. Coming evens were eat before, and cir•:umstauees would became change were not made. Mr. Ml fCIIRLL did not think the eel was justified in wanting th►t trade and c revie. as to mike up the dr ficiency of the Mr. 110IISMAN signified his intend revolutiot, on the paper in his name, wle into committee. Lord U. 6TUART mid it was the settle the co..s•ituency which be represeuttd u income tax. S.r R. INGLIS would ask the noble spoken, whether he would have the bard his cons , ituehts and propose to reimpose of those mom which had been remittal ? to the government the plan adopted by Fe of putting a stamp duty on foreign bins o f, gut. Since the ineo am tax hot first beta ari l held the view that it was most desirable t income m poieible upon a gr.oluate: se de, tis-r fries taxation sums be'., , w the minim which the tax was to be paid. An arra, would be a great bi ssiag totaks sal otl to the.. for whom he might be supposed t. tarty intereste I—the poorer parochial del Mr. BL ACKSTONE said when the in proposed he had prophesied it would ht and had °poised it accordingly. Mr. SEELY thoug;it it would be dt should ki,ow, ba,re they wart further, new taxation proposed, and what would case the present budget were adopted. The committee wee then postponed an SLAVE TRADE COMMI Mr. MUTT moved that Mr. B. Bar *sleet committee no the slave tmde. Mr. lIINDLEY, by way of amendm Sir E. Buxton i.e added to the committe The question having beea pot, Mr. MU rr complained of the attem comperi-on between any two hon. memo of bring driven to defend the merits of tl proposed. With respect to Sir E. Bo that hon. baronet to serve on the mount him in a state of indecision as to wheth or not. Sir E. BUXTON denied that he had unenviable condition as that de-criheil. anxiety to be on the committee, and had att nd ea much ac he could. Lurd HO ; HAM asked why both hot not be nn the committee? (hear.) Mr. BUTT a tid the committee had or to fifteen. Sir IL H. INGLIS saw no reason wb not be Menai , d. The very name of tl E4CX was sutlieient to render it Aldo% should be app ointed so serve. Capt. PEC HELL complained that placed on the committee, and urged the in to it the noble lord the mom forishire. Sir G. GREY said it would be contrs house to incr. tem the number beyond fit that in the event of any mem' er not hereaftir. then 8 r E. Buxton should it Mr. HIS DLEY con-enttil to acce and the ameochnent being withdraws., Wag egre• d to. Capt. PECrIELL then desired to Ingtatre to the committee, but The SPEAKER inf ,ruted bias that the committee hosing been appointed. NEW WRIT. Oa the motion of Mr. fursELL a to be issued for the eleeion of a memo Kin.ale, in tit. Tann of Mr. Ginnie's. The house adjourned at 11 o'clock. GENERAL COMMITTEE 01 The committee met yesterday in lowing eonotretoe. Catmiste.—Mr. Stem&ld, Lord Clement., Mr. Adaerlvy, Me. Divett,e ELECTION COMMITTEES Lutz Itaotq.—The day was a further evid,mee us to hribery and tree Sir F. Kelly. Nothing of any interev LaNca.s-raa.--berjeant Kinglal the Bitting member, and called a Mr. be %lad treated the tlectans at his own to thin day. KINnALE.—The petitioner hay scrutiny, the committee terminated tl log the election to have been a void el, BOLTON.—Evidence as to brib cupled the entire day. iriohe ero MAILS ...._ __ The MAI for New South Watt*, Van 7 Zeeland will t crivie lap on the evening . of ' The mans for the Went I gravt of Africa g up on the eve&ait of the lnth February. The West i 1141 1 .1 MAO% including Are ilonOura., New hrl..arm, Vera Crux, Tarn emluding thine fur Madeira, Juane. C f•hagrr.+, rolucuA, Wet Cazst of south Nivaregua, wih he matte up on the mamba I' ht. overload TrAil+ for Cobrelter, Malta, Kant, .aden, Ceylon, Itad r ..... flortg-Kong, an I will toe ovule up nu the it: mei:ten: the 3rd The mails for the Bruhn, the River Pit buco. Itauia a1.htc...., and Bumies Ayr..a, evomog ot the eta Mach. the on! hm.l a.....:7 mails, rim Mandl fpypi, Aden, evsion. 11011 e. Ilan* Kong, i means of tht• 7th March. The mini• for Frithh North America. tates. will be mane on en the eve:sine of I NOTICI THE number of S riot FS ismied by the authorities of the Stainp-ofik was: From JAN. 1, to Die. SI, This, we believe, is within eight issued to the Morning Herald, Morning Poet, ALL PET TOGETHEI In addition to the above issued Murrain , ' Paper, there were issued THE EXPRESS, From JAN. 1, to DEC. 31 - - Which was more, we believe, th , the Globe or Standard, Evening 1' TO 0011.1tESTON I aide tette 14 " TM EX pr , • ~be eCt. e, Oahe:T.6.lo.M Tye c !Will WATER IT LO! T.t. II I —l4.magas. el. Pan /. To-lintut st—)4cottui w eta. out 10; LONDON, TUESD. ERE what we write is publii will probably have reached already, and frankly, express monarch and the ruse, and moment to repeat them. Thi enveloped his numerous faini connexions commands respect proved of late years more aria to this country, fate has but I of retribution to need the add magnanimity of those who o in allowing every member of able, and shows that the days forced emigration, too, is confi his family, and the more obe There is no proscription, no yr the French epigrammatists in of to day is the France of 3 one family the less. There are no nobility bound dynasty, no priesthood, no cla hurt by its expatriation ; an the facility of the revolution, tion of sphit which perm points out no victims to thi party, and reveals no hidden 1 has foundered, as on a bank. • The ay.rsion f .1. Louis Pi so deeply entertained by a la of the citizens of Paris, and, nation, places the friends of in a moat embarrassing situ'. doubt that a majority of tht tionA guard of Peru woul