The Express. — London, England, 1852-02-20 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY ETENINGI4„FEBRUARY 20, 1 IMPERIAL P. II Wien boss Ve:11• 4 eamiteorlibooteay poe m , allileMe Ilea t., twos m I k ea • 0111111101‘ lehvera th .„ mi t the of w i e.7l:: called Ths *, lierAs. 3=asr o " 13 Oa 11110111104 Oslo ten he Wood by Ii yeses adios to mew um of sew offer./ to be doe tots plaintiff de =dem seedeeed the deatelasy Oar Wend. Ie ask" is deleffbe a' fife of 411! pereleilM et this emilimi6. menidelele 'Aso la aMsi the illemad wee mode. The dud do sisil meek tg Dinh aphid the Ileeretary tee bald we fee him doe ea ea memos he week sad WSW 0106 for snolem performed by the plaintiff is meted of the existing Withaistration, from July 16. ]i6l, to loriwoog Id, 1851, austeathig to 6,7001. Thin was.* Silt r e = Ware, mid k .mdotetod to ae ad speed& It wee aottoded, and the eeema b i ll ia we alp fantod to ho uleatielbasey ; but, at last, he gave kilt eiently emidentely bill of particulars on which ho settedbie claim, sod orldell was as follows:—" That the delbedeat having reed the plaintiff u a journalist, to dents his journal* tbe oseposimr, printing, and publishinTefarticlee is of the existing administration, to whtels the de fended woo sod is attached as Chief Secretary of Ireland. Osetheellm /Wee. sod publtehter mid whelps tram the 106 11144 te the Nth de, et Jearesey, 11131—iims, IN. I amigos edit Mk • egrelisatim red nevem Is "male miptelleelmeet thotemawmal avails. amt .4 htmeetellmy meekl eel= 11 • • =11101m ilw at Stle i ter adayg To - IWe mg* of d s World oreepqm. at Id. ere sort Ithhh sol artists. swami. potholed eel thmetbatel mi Z ai dohmemeo mete to the mdmime s to die* awe nem, to gs rlionneded to feemo. emeermaml to the kailigpetlesempesill H. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TRumate, F. 19. The LAID CHANCILLOIL took hie met et fiat o'clock. PETITIONS PRESENTED. MATIOOTH.—By a NOBLE LORD, from Dorchester ; Earl of SHAFTESBURY, from Wick Rangerford, Burton Latimer, Presbytery of Elgus,'llirlleld, aid Glas gow, the latter signed hy 62,450 male inhabitants, against the continuance of the grant to Naynooth. -Itiostaaatas.—By the Earl of SUAFTESBUAY, has the females of Ileholsorgh and the inhabitants of Bow, in favour of the visitation of nunneries.__ The Bake of BUCKINGHAM gam notiee that, telte 4 the militia bill came babe* the Deese, he should propose an amendment, to the effect that it ho made general instead of local. EXPORTATION OF OIJNPOWDER TO THE CAPE. The Earl of hIALMESBURY said be had received a letter treat Messrs Waltea and Bushell, stating that although they had shipped a considerable quantity of gen =der to mereb.ints at Cape Town, they were perfectly t of the purpose to which it was tillic applied, and waylaid have been shocked at the ides of fts being used by our enemies in conflict with our fellow countrymen. THE EAST INDIA COMPANY'S CHARIER. The Earl of ELLENBOROUOII pre notice of • mo tion for papers explanatory of his recall from the governor generaltblp of India. The Marquis of I.ANSDOWNE thought, considering the long time that had el timed since the crew, it would he un wi.e to revive the personal question—hut the point might be again raised when the committee on Indian affairs moved aa Friday week. The Karl of ELLENBOROI.7OII smented, and The motion was withdrawn. COUNTY COUR I t FURTHER EXTENSION BILL Os the question that the report be received, A discussion, or rather conversation, of considerable length, but void of result, sprang up on the regulation of mats in these courts between the I is, lonic, assisted by the Earl of Mum' and Lord FITZWILLIAM; after which the tardier consideration of the report was adjourned till Tate day sett. COE PATENT LAW AMENDMENT BILL. On Lord Li N ODDEST, presenting a petition for certain patentees, praying that the Patent Law Amendment Bill might speedily became the law of the land. The Earl of %ONTO said he had been informed by his soh!, frirsol (Lord Stanley of Alderley) that he would shortly bring in a tall upon the mihjeet. OkFIVE MESuENOEM TiOTHE GREAT BEAL ABOLITION BILL. Upoa the motion Lewd WWI/ILLS tile bill was nail thin) time and paved. The learctras of the table. laid VSliall• reports apes Tbeir lordship Wu, at green o'clock, adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TuuuDAT, FEB. 19. The Dorm met of 4 o'clock. PT BLIT St - SINEW TUITIONS PRESENTED. Tss Aar Rio we Rua.— Is favossof,byMr.FLAHßETT, from (fanny ; Mr. KEOGH * from Athlone SCULLY, from Tipperary ; Mr. B. ROCHE., boss Naas. awn. Cliwore, tt'atovra, Movidy, Kilbotwon, Ketbris, aati Ballyelosgh. Tu■C•rP,rAL PALACIL—ABSDIST the removal of, hoot tie local esiauomieners, Finsbiu7, by Mr. T. DUN. COMBE. PIODT-140/011 AND C•LIU•011 Darr.—For repeal air W. JOLLI EYE, from Peterslbild ; Mr. O. I)IJ1 , hen the Fara:shin A sociation, signed ai by the clm of • public TOCTIAni of the assonation; Mr. HOWSE% from the posta.ti nof Carlisle Lord Mandeville, kat Howdky; Mr. BAOSHAW, ho . Harwich. MAltcaasTaa AOD EALTOID EDUCATION BILL.— EEBDITt. from M auebetter. by Mr. 0 EAC H. EATNOOTII 011 ANT.—Pot repeal of, by Mr. FULLER, rasa the clergy of die null oisaptar ofVlesthaut, is the aunty et Suess. ESCULAJL EDUCATION.—By Mr. M. GIBSON, bow New College, Manchester, and front Warnagtou, in favour .1' ossolar education pad far by local rotas ; and by Mr. AN any, from balked, to theism* effect. Octal" Pax" r Puirr.saa.—By Mr. COBDEN, boa pies, in Yahwism', he the astablashmat of so swam peniq NOTICES OF MOTIONS. ECCLESIASTICAL DIVISION OF PARISHES. YU Marquis of BLANDFORD—To awn its Wiles this subject on Thursday next. VALUATIONS (IRELAND.) Mr. SCILLY —To MOTT on the 4th of Marsh , foe • se lect winntittee, with • vi ew to devise a Warr and non arrest ',stein a valuation hr rating purposes than that saw prirrailiag Is Inked. THE BOROUGH OF HARWICH. Sir W. WILLOUGHBY wieliodisTeerreet --- mirmplms hessian which bad obtained elsewhere ea to what Me sold la the recent debate out the fit Alhaaa Disfraashigmeat Bill in reference to the herewith of Harwich. Ha Bad serer bad the honour to he aminhor far that bseazat i o ee win no way connected with It, am did ha know about it. N hat he really stated was, that levity a member of the last committee on the Hamill' deetiell, ha thought it due to all parties assisresd, lei semi particu larly to the hoe. gentleman who wag Imatalsk, to ay that ia the course of that inquiry as raid asnupt practices occurred, but that the 'Willa wag 'WM at the ground that the hustings were aimed NI paned dawn before the time fixed by law. STEAM COMMUNICATION WITH NEWFOUND LAND. If,. F. Port intimated, in sewer to a questiost from Mr. B. COCHRANE, that the memorial from Newfoundland is Sneer of establishing steam toessusication between esloay and the mother conetry was uader the seaside- Mill et th• Tre.ware. IRISH BILLS. emble Lord Nate. W.IOME It V I LLE said he lad se MB premed. sr Po ISOM of preparation, to mod the bleb peer law. Lard SEYMOUR, to regky to /Sr. T. Dammam, stated that Me H of the eemiNesttases appointed to take 'vi ands so peered semotal the Crystal Palace had bees lbeessedod to the Twomey. bat was wait* ke sows oweetessa Ladd& NA, to Iffr It. Inoue. the sulk Ned timid that the Bed of Wats had usable to do with the New Vieweiretrest. the pressat dewiness elito of eft& N est easeassust ea • dispewkwith the piwilts• Ail%ls reply to Mr. Firma, Lord SE YMO UR ail SIM is of • queds• whirls had been peeked, pm to be bed mob is ▪ os the subjeet el WO 11111111111111111111 d showwies who were to to admitted isle the hwerna and be lad hem bid that proprr accommodotioni would be presided. - REMOVAL OP COLONEL OUTRAN. Mr. emits?* having asked a question and received a reply as to the mane ?erecting the ezpswititere of the rate in aid (Ireland), sell _M. Iff/rilkig the ordnance survey .f essabsod. Lied JOCE LYN ogled • sweeties retrooting the rameed of Coked (harem from lb MISS of *MY amidst et Br nxia, 'spewing • MM. slain Wild Oho peaty that dictated IR reed. Mr. F. MAULS doprowlest may zretiouver .. .: . a awe whiek the pules were Very little inkestrAles hod mind die mallQlo — e ored the simple feet etCeloasl Owtrain's remiss. 8RE:47,011b GRAMMA* SCHOOL. Mr. MOWATT bowl to pu t •salts to tbo A= Osumi with reseed - to Me B rit Gorse An am had bees reseed LA par p whisk the Mod hod bees pat wader the newogwaseit oftemileso. wed • ellows for its ismembilehoset bad been homed width led how =Trof the Loamy Damn. Is Int ashowit by hod bees weds to • leaps sea rid to Mdse to the Dames ben the I seester__,liiish wee webs,/ Noted at Bova SAWN. to Limo. The esuseittee wen dem to knew hew the Areaway Drams whether they ,towil wig es the of the ar owl by what tiosede P The A T WNINIST.G.AL tali that the wally lir pediment ID w e stsspNio• the Mime seessaiwy it pot the wear attle woo, chit the Widow of the UMW bed ap se s • dm Ws soveod thewmed monads by trey ed est of ais wowsks. The realke was sow is the Master's M owl wonottlaillo 00, TUE ST. ALBANS ILBCTION.—ACTION AGAINST THI SE LIZAHT4T4II,IIIS. The MAMA informal the beta *et the Surjeket elLA re. &Wei te mem a sismeeleselee Is the Isere. Th• SHIL/ WIT-AT-A2llll thee stail—l have M W hen the bases Om ma the let et Ills meth I was sewed with a writ lem age tz this Coen liasisseeer, is a sett =s ue by Wakes_ lgaria. see at the bean emeesee WWII sell ea the Mir duds. Os the I7ib Iwe waved with a swim et dealleeilsa Os whisk I wee fled is 4 days. I lay dots Ws sones Os We hewer. ardS. NUftftaLL semi AM the tweeties be takes Lela eeedipeatialt wow new gible day). Xi. mastic' though* *ma this sem such •lm metes, Mat Wry ambit t. eater at it at sues. Heet . = begs whew She wales et desbeeties wee served het Ow IleiseeteMeses ems rseeired te plied is her eisix: s : dboAeoes seghe Is be gni* M rwm mem they sap. The ON Ihive thedd le was ee take eye the °lCYtote Meld the weft. ram," mad ireOpsee4 *** ceediedir Ws gasolks swimmer (thie ABM wee Weal 0 •• VIDITILATION TIN SOUSE. Mr. W. SWIM after esambloleg a( the veselletios et she bra" legged Is ask the wale bed the Pint Hew alsetesse of W ei whetter the pewee et Dr. Reid WWI ceded solely to the besot, aid ideate he waned see lave Me emollhovessaw aftelifted Me (as we estleefted) Lod 111111101/1 begged he wooled We hes. thee Ow home MA reedeed thee the i sad wain*/ etas hem Meld sot be ell g= . l= sad seek Ilia thees =dam lb be pissed sc... astberityortaft willtreliM. Wi les was DA Ns hot see* eMg West * to M r. breed Ors De. Ifteid haft ohs remised a eery, ieiso aid CI W me m amp paiftemes were acting is esesedewes PUNISHMINT OW =ATM lb. SWART gave swiss the is the femme et the we. Wes he should reeve he leave le leis is s r b sepal the yecialueteet et death. t TDB num Govaiuglein AND TIM "roam N WePAPIa. Lard NAAII.Ia rising te baiwg inward the weds ef whisk be god sieve =des, add be Ms le wee se Isivillsee tirk le end's*, seeleet ef_ble se aged*, ars Erne LW Cleandes w. else whits rheas ebs. nieleeeSeenleeldisi mad reepeat ; hot hie wait bred ma rills perils desk and A. A 00 0 • woe' - ba asthma iththit tile to Italia gala te the aura ihr a mth e ln i gg lb ur e ztl i f ir =dia . „ves tr ea le ead of thegg e t i a a r e. beam* las and the is dark, the year 1849. ' ' 'Z i' re ' s;a n ~,, were Idat by Mr. Meredith, dietrams B h eerstaa he and, and tia gas a ham nod ezteradleary letter was addressed to 4 by On Private of the Lord Lieutenant. Supplies wove net then alvery ha ma beldam tether hwartaate. _ yM. Nada, in Mak 190, war to dear ai only resolved labewarm sopped, and mid that be bed received is in year twise as mat as any other path journalist. It appeared hem this letter du the t i i = gra& may ler ware randad. •••• • srstelel Ni sa i tir a r a is . 11.• 1 11. • k tha no : v elar, hear.) And, if Mer eleesiverliiiGgidies from the neigh treestu;, e and ' Mejestra goverusautt paid that newspaper Edeg * sedr w eir principles. tw (Hen be ar.) rtr Shortly io with ab 5...... to theca most 00110111711k411:1 1 . " °Z, i: =baof illo bsen intercourse which had gone on the peaks he mere than a year took place. What the met eaten of that wee, he (Lord Ness) weld not con fides, but certain impolite words were used by Mr. Birch towards some pain seenested with the Castle, and • It emit*. was themeded. This letter, dated the 17th of May, KM , was hem Mr. Osman to Mr. ploot h = was so Mew : " Haag amesunisated with flir demerale. I have to say that • retradelea of wads h dememall ;ad if you will do Ame r ad semi a paean hen to morrew as three cr'elede, awl. waive a swage 31W' (Orem harghter.) This leas Ai net isledon with the geed alsoshaling between the necrepper and the gamma whirl ha - pealandy mad, hr. dem he vo oda thldp yea In Vert Ns* Oa Win. Oa the a Nov i. 191114 Me. Meek received hom the Right Idea. 1 .e .. ---- tory fes Wand BIM ; on the la Dee. he recOleed allelbar Am* • a 100 L In the !agleam of the year WO he Lame men " Then comes another charge. 'To amethen des imaddnele. 3Grairy - net bag flabseasieg the IN On- World newspaper supplied to the dsbaiat, aid simi. steady as it ben hese =rat lean to the yam bea at like d .retort, 3001." This wee the shim *Melt meat of a meet th mama In a later data des the origin of the action brought by Binh agast Muth, 1860, be dated that add not paalt his pew the sight hem. . Ia the deka the mia arty to be sesellsod, theta ease in rasa to Ness, ea has were net is ed. It wee sot dialed that the he - bed adodeled the stem ihreed upon Ida and that Lad 1 week had use beim • bat it wee sentenal Cleremilon and the go.rawest la bees that the e ' been tea as be. with Wreath That letter wu mead b e rlr s ri : i f tweed thirkelf had mod the al net ferentsery bi Ape., end in it he ad that he wee utterly with the ;ad that the lii -liesiamd la mak se drew • main from Mr. Bleak', roadie, that adapt di alms as to the plaintiff. Head show me journal was ever treated with greater gentemity and the nears elle adios. ea that it woo sot del•1 W the •asideution than do Wield, and that it as Ea Lord Ida p eo r i as i e that gird, had boo e.plsyed by awe, Clarendon's dada to ample on onybedly. Arica" letter be add raw pawed to amen the thanseer laws by was written in • slaw • ane sheet this time by Mr. the palenno ad by the fa amnion. It was Birch to the thief seereary, in whisk he karat that s pager whit h had been hod lee Ralik he Same he thee knew the emote to panne, ea that be was re- ' aim* bat dialled eiraletioa. In 1814 it did amt ahem. limed from all essbanament on am bud. • farther MN mew then 49111 a weekend it appeared theft nada letter from him to the chief of ileitis- ' orateln• MOM be it was 913. In 1147 the warehar of gratitude ache governineut,T.:74l= IS amp required as 39,893, ea map of dna 900 several persons very much in the eanhe pada& es • week ; and In Is4B the of shape was 00,970, Notwithstanding the purport of thsee letters, be being en mew of net gas 1,200 • week. et In July, 1860; but in August, Wing that he aid Thee weal show what wee he cantata and as obtain any move money, he esst to the Lest probable Whoa Bet it war a paper of • mallet the. Lientualt his little bill (a laugh) teetimed is aster. It was always is the babied alas as OM wards :—" To supporting law and order political subjects, written with pest • dhemeid; two years (laughter), rendering services, _die., Clreresatern with arch pint le aggilla le 0., 6,6001." (Bemired laughter.) This account the Lied ,it ge y metaleed wades erf a fir agar. Lieutenant very naturally refused to pay, and thereopere fel end ibelleeasidoestor. and he whisk se pallet add Mr. Birch ememeased proseediage la the Court el haeolee be teend,, neat he a ailed the lades Illefiriel. Bomb Mew marred ens of - the mast estraordiary ha. whit wee neerasu, Them sash* ealda of dale ennoseled with the ea. Mr. Binh heal; am. sail Maas of the and tat hada • meal the preasedinp, • number of documents ale etudes ea petalsmdtrldsds, whose arses were given in Planed Wm the Mk of She seem, sad , fearing th• fall, and were el seta • astute that he sheald be every to which rad MUM hat a abbe trial, the Lad reed an utast hem them. Every penes and every one's thought it mew he bio want eed advastege to endueser shonsa was sailed to those attacks. Female chastity to coutpaine the trial. •seardiagly. there was a ram and wady haw, the credit of the large merchant or the drawn up, whisk wee sigeed by the Lad Lieutemare smell wear were equally the subject of attack, end accuse- • lunar sad by Mr. Bleedt's attorney. At that tioneweeemide which were,diagraceful teeny paper. But It dim Mr. Birch was in possession of orrtain letters was awed with worse practices eves than those, for es- he whisk he claimed a sum of 11,11001., and it wee part or dames won made to extort mosey from persons, under the present bargain that he sherd give up these does wassetdwlWWS;Mmskestewthem. The editor of meets. The please was in the usual form. It recited this paur in ISSIN9 wee __ pneeeeasi is the Court of Queen's that Lord Clarendon disputed the plaintiff's claim, still, Bamw,ihr attenplog le orttort esimay by , threats of publish- that in order to avoid litigation, he agreed to pay 2,0001., bog atinthe em the pomovator, sad Mr. Justice Crampton, in and that in consequence of tho payment of the said sum, =mins^ dies addressed him :—" The indictment Mr. Birch agreed to give up the documents. This having Faso ease contains 119 enact : and they resolve been rumoured about at the time, a general impression pre. themselves km three distinct charges. First, the professing railed that the whole affair was at an cod. But it appeared to abstain hem publishing de fassusey matter against the that after the traniection took place, and Mr. Birth promater ; meendly, the threading te publish defame- had pocketed his 2,0001., he lay by a little, end seetese, with • similar intent; sad, lastly, actually waited to see what he would do. In June, 1861, he wrote pa libels es the prosecutor, with a Smiler latest— to say that his property had been ruined by his eosnexion to mum neeney. Now, James Birch, you have been con- with the government, and then he wrote • letter to the dad Igen all the counts of the indietment. It appears noble lord at the head of the government, and this letter Win the evidence that you and the prosecutor were we. the climax of the whole business. It was dated from =7:to each other up to July, 1843 ; and you Wm Perle's Coffee-house, Flect-street—(a laugh)—the 19th of i l unelf to his notice by writing • letter, in whisk June, 18.51. It stated that the writer had commuted pro ms sated that certain parties had applied to you in peer ceedings against Sir William Somerville for the recovery espacity of a journalist, to notice certain transactions ie of what he believed to be doe; that it was only alter his which Grey wee mixed up. Those traneactions related is attorney had written twice that Mr. Cappock replied ; and a compromise entered into in a certain suit between his that his wish was that the public should hear a narrative of sad third parties. The matter was at en ed. It dki the whole affair from Lords Clarendon and Palmerston. It sleep until you raised it. And what was year make t emeluded as follows:—" One thing, if the truth be told, The indictment charges, and the jury haws Ikea that your eannot be deviled, that you gave me, during • • lengthened object was to extort money, theonell its itintleMea- period, various sums, amounting to 3,7001.; that by the tallty of the newspaper of which yes in the . letter of the Irish Secretary I might still have been • ill- You threatened to expose him, and scents him mod, pendinry advocate of the government ; and that, having re usury. and perjury; and the prosecutor was week heed that proposal, every effort is now being made to rain to offer you money: 4001. or 5001 . was demeader e l de." Having found everything mesoressful, having finally, 1001. was paid by the prosecutor for the puree of tried every means either is audio as in the purchasing silence. It was obtained by threats; and, not service of the government, or le alas sure from content with that sum, you proceeded, is the esereeger• 4•8113, Mr. Birch brought the eller at eau sr • before, dace, still farther to threaten the victim yea bed in yea he the Court of Queen's Dends._sgeha dm thereury hands. Your letters become more urgent ; yea treater te be Ireland, and it ward M bade the Thief aslise. The Impose everything before the public, and to ea his total trial occupied two days. It re eswireed with tirt gated rein. You get the pr secutor ' s 10 01., but he ssbeeguently ability on both sides, end caused eadderable Indllent. A became Ira ; he refried to give any more ; end as then most extraordinary event occurred at the itial. iew %whisk denounced him as guilty of perjury, fraud, and any. The be hlt it most disagreeable to allude. The Lied Usuldient result was your preen-sties on the present indktmedf , al of Ireland was produced as a witness an the seasion, and, a verdict of plenty, which, looking upon the evidence, should though the task was painful, it wee tomeori to allude to satisfy, sad certainly does satisfy, the court as to its pr► and read the evidence hie exeelleaeg pvs. The Lord priety." The lead judge concluded by sayieg—i• Tee Liam/rat was called, and appeased as a witness.' sow steed convicted of extorting money trots in genlfie. /Or the first time in the MEI& of Irish his- man, who must be given credit for hi. courage ia rain May, the Viceroy appeared in the witases4roz. It forward to face the terrible power under whose attacks he Wan • most unusual proceeding, one whisk had Dever bees had already suffered; end, tempering the law with meter, Nor hare, and it caused great excitisseme in Dablin at 1 while at the suns time vindicating it in the punishment ea the dm. Let the house recollect that _hi_ _Oafali_jiWal _had wrens/ offence, the sentence is that you, James Meek he net ere there, as he might have um% le glee nallinall• imprisoned in the gaol of Newgate for six asieshr • gala of property between man ad am Me had gn a t months " Now that was the man, sad that the NM there to throw the shield el ble waheeky sad pee. paper, which had b..e& employed by the lilt ge. balsa ever either person or papery we hod be aim vernment 011 Weita • the interests of law *rd tare to entity to the publio loran .ray are. He MN order, and in meow by the Laird- Lieutenant es • Mimeo Mint his own chief escretary, his own politi and the Irish yeasseest le east the, a iu r ialeses. al •• the butanes of the wretched, miserable ing the pallealas which k man by be had been sumateerik (iber, _bear.) His the rebellions at that time . He (Laud mad stedkarallthogwßallerllls hiler won nounsa leilli not but think that the Led-Lieretenant had earaistai a bra weirs under lio inatedises. and he replied that he great ewer, aid itialy in principle, but a greet snot la mr- had we auk it was, that he had eel • say of bat that meat. It in as error in principle bemuse it was ha- its wthelead as that Mr. Birth wield all upon Sir Wea• possible te say that any public man should lave awegtad Somerville. eat that he (Birch) ha aides ra dame of the ells of the minim af a man wheal been law and order. Hi eatedistosy added that the Willa of sea • sehoe ad of • paper whisk as ban le be so had given It. NM uneasy, ea be assail that the p. disreputable. ( ( heers.) I t wee ekes& ewer injedgemat, veruesetwere loggerled I. as *bail 's pear. Yet it rare the odlanse of such • seal be no use to a so happened that in hoe yea see or two leading linkal• al* wee d•te le dialogs its duty. were iivaribly eatmag—mbe peeking the peaky et the rot "t e=if s it ha ban the moot able ea seepeembie paper Lord•Liwateress* add die oar palm die podia el the in Indeed its meek= Si the geosemantweeMbsve been late Foredo item may. Ma oneellay gashes dr dale Weal if it had been known that its mar wen par- la his alders.' that be had sue Wadi. Ma as& the haw chased; and weeks seal be some *aria ea demeglay aimed a write in 'grit ed law sad ads, he Odd bles to to . papa Orr berg Meer by a goveram s t o r red he w might de so ; that be was tea Se expel sap supped lewd far its He add wow sea as u he goveiument; end that be might awe in Ohs add ladoldis, with bet few mamma of own, Lord Lisameat) se meek as be pleased. (lagider.) el these tommeau between the peernmeed sad the eili• Well, ba he iLeril Nag shoal like te haw hew It bey. to o f dot e rr sad he would then lease then to the pima that he the eddy pea of Illosh'e manieet with as base, and ask wharla thei w the iz egist be of he had naiad • law Ma the private saw let "... wedle yped tbe Meade of bit duty k this of the aside ha at the heel al the Feasts. qualm lama (Ohara) la deig se he um (Lea Palest_..) to#a him welt islidda only seek de ._ _ t. es wan pedeeedat the Isla There ties et he might maims ? , bear, and e r a el war many same which 1114•• est aminsed on thee mew " Reed.") The letter in oidafenwee posiesed a thy ea by the asset, bat he (lad da) add eel leas trial. It bete date, "IP mo of mayday whisk was not in Maeda and te these as as hilewe :—. I bar her d irecte d by Lood only he add maid himself. (CQhoa) The eonnenten tee to exposes to you hie Oaks he year semmeekeram, hawses the pageant and up paps deaseal in ea lanto my that if you have a mam— MK. awl hi aria to show k and with poem dent er agent in Londe& IMO may weft* aser he i s la thus ammesies andesord and win seeded hiesetion, sad upon white you may heed en on, le would air the wawa of Birth at the tall mama or aka. I shoal be ready to receive such Mr. aka was inuelned es • wham ea the Ida al he Lutie s s: abed him snob toleration sa I ma y be was.- steal ad Led Ohanden's phut, eowelsri was Mr. Led 1 - ' -- ea le senananicats." Meer, hear.) Corry Cheedisa, ea* that the secretary of the Chief Bea- This wee at a was made by the government tary it band woo Mr. Meredith that in May, 104 he (Bear.) Hie easellseur was eat asked If he saw = received a lees, bum Mr. Conme drag a time sad fa the paper ia of kw and order, and he placed antis, est Set, in seneeseens& be ailed area that he oeswear p ba, but that he we ea Ewa this* Iced Cisenden. end bed an intaniew him. Is fa law and wit required toy blase ia 'AL titer appmeall hat his adage, that he bed net Moe my inhume hem the answer tone. that the cassezied be lag la the saga of the geverandat b waked a twee& the ramment end the wee of a BM of 304 MK of which MO paid she . Osandlen e mature, owl Mal It wee hr the papa= and 1005. by Lord Clareadon ;—e.s barbed aertilme og the tralliesurn 'NINO of other peps The hot wen lying spa the table, which Mr. Comellne mat Is the Males wee Oulat—Ant ale bale to Yin - np. During the whole period et that year, ef , the useemalle aids in the be soused te have beta eateeely in emere• wee erree—an the Ka of Jan MIL 11.v== asides with the It•••••8111K1. Naha or knew IPSO IMO mediated afterade. in there was as end id' the dim preited at the hid, chewing that be ens a. al an or for ms& Ia 1849, war. Birth VMS la mama NM two of ion would peke at •he the he the atom of menhaden with the t. Oa the setraelation that allninenliallon. tu OM of that as dad k Mash, ham he get 1004 la , 1849, he get wainwain lood, 18* Inas& by Ilr. Cermellen. la whit be sell the and en the titto or Dooommo, 1849, mere than mor (toe Prima urge ISOM to b• tempi to ateount. awl la ski Mr. Othello% alordslianate tooptuad smother 1011, h a morel ef whet Iva then was in Paso apt* be Mad, it., 111 Oa ON Os wee same te that weU en the he mead env he waste the e mil l i r ft prossandat ea the other a tTAson A t l4 . Ceenellms„ te the ha thet al re= m oortain rewards. Dr. Wish bed ailed he agibas. la order team that liertr ie hear.) Ithe the dhadees -minted is these haters were elleaded to, had never real the pear, dal 1116:zrre ti e s eall a kakis addle and • " Ream to " IMO la- same et amene deme. The tha lime he sle sorted la the World of the ellstrita , ambit asked he . = but era Odd by Net (his eallary) clearly that both were aided le meser d the an. then was se ihni_Appilleable te ask • au mnaisetisde sesead ha Mr. nellws. The , words he resolved am., and In Labia be resetwird • he bra gene en hr same I thee eata from • hod pined at the thepond if Sir i ttr ili t latimi the meeTr edi f July • leer wee atelen zw ? IA fkidenille—ast hem • public took bet frem_yillsa Will a C 46.41 1 .1 I. Mr• Hirsh, lIMS OIIII II ewe WI able le amid amiss* (Hear. bear.) Thwo again add Am dor wok. to As soodooloot tbot lb prated beyond doubt tree the lips - ef his mean. SW W dime SOW maim le the eta of kw sad eider Mr. eeK Oa BMWs wakes were pal for In part oat or es Bide then posseeded in he album to dell the ear- pails Md. It was true his ezmilloody ma r the he bed rase whia bad abs. plat lia Loadoo. It eppenewl that pal bash the money himself. bld the ymeseell mete th e In Lisa he reedeed sada bear Ikea Mr. Oidssika, of the government bad • le le sale be the that he saw the Ithiel lowitery Ihr Inked : after he re- hew hilly and that wee eas. sod was Odd that Lea Okada woad be suer vary retuned. (Hear, hear.) al a very nt= quip airily. He said alleradde, awed doe had adthemed I tom, and sae which the Ulla bed a right to have sa• , 1 Mr lira by /lr. Cleadhs. Nodded la labs are mestag, sand. (Hear, bear.) Mir Realleasy wad es le state' wed at length in lanned Oa be weed naive KM. k that It. hod resolved 3,7911 L ; that - brolebe daft dill l c So he ought to be gives eight these bo We Widarren) laid 1_ ma em 4 248 aIl ilk ea that the geeenadd paid by Me W. lemeTWo. wbs was +or 61 1 Vali 11l would gla him V II t a te )--ead argrat k thole yaw& the ail& Lad Ohmage amid le hag bait aset Mr. lab wit weed es to sale that be bed wad shad* hags in the dm& by he satedkatee an on Mr. Kaaba. who iold him that the may he goo trassatis, hr i. was agemeded Wain waive lMOD • path by ammumesiel ate, sad by Oam rim knew _ilie sheroster of Mr. Mesh the be was add he • kw days after la Bah of oedema sod ef MB paper. Other. bear.) no gmaigies nelea la lie milgthi id Oahe! Mr. Binh ad le la erhe deed the preessedes when ilia, was senhaed to dos lard, end sled a the Oah u when he wee bat lathy seendif impridag_tent was at the thee now ipshen of Seth sug be had ear he the mandader otaho now, that asiothearel. The tight le_n. gala= masa Mt. hi od lean tints es meek. ad Illet If be aid Ilediell) was at the aide. learely Kr. Osumi= inset gab he would's' 1601. Mr. Meredith ago him • amps Ma Mown the *masa of ITheb—he who wu erandary &W. tor 10 91 1 another for 14 8 4 dad OOM b a r SIL ;ad to the hewer kethlialoolla ded idoeleaUy In Dahlia, wee ft poen' blett‘heeliald be lipeersiatefthateitereetet I , Why wee it, "let h the lerd-lieutemat had set been trotted Ibirly Op his sebordinates (Remy He had new ormeladod this meet onplessaat stalement. h H sfae.) e had shows tas mangessent ins dame to between 'the government lesd the 'editor of that paper, that the seethes of that venom we accepted by the government, and that the gowleasion paid for his cervices by the poldie mosey. (Hear.) He thought it worthy the consideration of the house, and he could not but conceive that the decision which the house would arrive at that night wu mist im portant. He believed that on that decision rested very nisei the sods of pantie morality. (Laughter and cheers.) Hoe. gentlemen might laugh, but he did say that the dect don that the house would emus to that night was to decide whether it was right for the government to subsidise news papers with the public money. His did not know what course her Majesty's ministers might take on this occasion. MO, the facts of the ease they could not, and defend them he was due they would not; and he believed the house could come to no other conclusion than that which wu em bodied in the resolution ho now moved—" That, in the opinion of this house, the transactions which appear re cently to have taken place between the Irish government and the editor of a Dublin newspaper are of a nature to weaken the authority of the ceecutive, and to reflect dis credit on the administration of public affairs." (Loud cheers.) Lord J. RUSSELL then roee and said—The sotto lord, in bringing forward this question, has brought forward certainly a very grave question fur eensideran and let not the noble lord attempt to extenuate or to dim inish the gravity of it. The noble lord said ho wished to do nothing vexatious, and that he did not mean to make personal remarks. Now the house will be aware that the attempt of the noble lord is to bleat the character—(lmni cheers) — se fie disgrace upon a man who has rendered great public ternic•—(contianed cheering) who has been engaged in political life with great honour and with great credit, but who, above all, has rendered great service to that coun try of which the noble lord is a native. (Chews.) Let not the home, then, at all believe that the noble lord brings &owned this question from mere speculative reference to patine morality. It must entail the consequences which I have Mated, and I must examine on what foundation he asks this hews to sane to so grave a decision. The facts of this treaseetica I think require to be again stated, after the aunties of the noble lord. In the first place, let me my, however, that for my part I never heard from Lord ' Clarendon • single word on this matter, or en his relations with Mr. Birch until after the notice of the noble lord—in fact, four days ago. The letter which the noble lord has quoted, addressed to ma by Mr. Birch, was put aside unnoticed as one of those letters which come from persons wild, insane, of worthless. (Hear.) Let me now. then, state the facts as I have heard thi m from Lord Chi vendee, as I gathered them from the trial, and as I believe them undoubtedly to be true. In the spring of 1848, after the revolution which had taken place in France the state of Ireland was one of great peril. At that time Mr. Birch wrote to the Lord-Lieutenant. He told him that his own iiispositios was to rapport the troverneseut of the country spinet the revolutionary doctrines that were then so un happily dispersed among the people, and that, as his news paper was • weekly newspaper, aad circulated together with the most pernicious of those newspapers that were preach ing of rebellion, he could be of peat use in maintaining the connection between Great Britain and Ireland, and on maintaining the cause of peace and order. In the then situation of affairs Lord Clarendon accepted his offer. Mr. Ethiestard—l will quote over again the words which Lord used, sad which the noble lord has quoted. Clsrendon said I then saw Mr. Birch. In the Mate of public affairs at that time, I think I should hare idled in my duty if I had not accepted offers from any per ilous in support of law and order. Mr. Birch offered to pub lish such articles in his paper. I told him he might do so, *pup I did not expect much good from them. I told Elm, at the same, he need offer no support to the govern meat, and that, as to myself, he might abuse me as much as he liked, for I was perfectly indifferent." Now, that passage shows that what Lord Clarendon wanted was to have writing in defence of the law, against the attempts of rebellion, and that he did not seek support for his own administration. That which was written after wards by Sir William Somerville corroborates exactly what fell from Lord Clarendon. On the 31st of April, 1849, he wrote :—" As far as I am coa cerned, my sole motive is to aid journals in the support of law and order, nor ten I charge myself with having done more than that." On the sth of July 1849. ho wrote, If there is anything I can do to aid the cause et order and good government I shall be glad." In another letter be rays, "I can have no other view but the public good." Now these are the statements of Lord Clarendon and Sir W. Somerville. The noble lord has said that they arc men of public character; he has not impugned their character, and therefore the house will accept these state ments as being the real motives which actuated the lord lilutenant and the chief secretary for Ireland. The editor of this newspaper, the World. tho noble lord says, was a person who carried on a newspaper which contained attacks on private persons, which, though Lord Clarendon did not know, ho says he certainly ought to have known. Now, for my part, the only thing I ever knew of the If newspaper was seeing a letter written by Lord Eliot in 1842, which was very complimen tary. An How. MENINZA—Is 1847. (The noble lord then read the letter, which stated that the writer believing that the rheas peaseraties hesitated against the World new hope was owls. to the ISMS pur sued by it against the politioal opposes of he present go vernment, and he exceedingly regretted that the free and independent support given by him (Mr. Birch) to the measures of government should bare sabjected him to this treatment, differing u he did from that government on many and most political subjects, he could not but think that his conduct had been most creditable to him, and with these feelings he (Lord Eliot) freely subscribed fifty pounds to paying the expellees of the prosecution.)—That was at the very time that Lord St. Germans was Chief Secretary for Ireland, but Lord St. Germans was a man of the very highest character. , I never supposed from seeing that letter but that the editor of this newspaper was the editor of a respectable paper, expressing his own impartial and iris pendent opinions. Mr. Birch has sent me a slip of other letters. Here is one of them, purporting to be a letter from Lord De Grey, and another from Lord--( Loud cries of " hear, hear," caused the name to be inaudible.) , Certainly, I shall not quote them, inasmuch as I have nothing but Mr. Birch's own word fur them, and I consider his word of very little value. But this editor stated that It was very difficult to procure sale for newspapers which did not deaf in the exciting topics of revolution, and he asked for money to enable him to pay spats to get circulation foe his paper. That, it appears, wee the first beginning of his receiving money, and Lord Clareades at first let him have 100 f., and afterwards miens scats, which appear to have a amounted to Laid, hot In the year IMO eiroammancee of mhed, derip. At that Oak et the sag of Ink thwe wee se leaps Os that had tees appreheaded la Woad, and it appenie dil = the Lord Lieutenant did not direct any further ins to be paid to Mr. Birch. Mr. Birch appears to have away at one time, to have threatened at another, sad nay came who has read the papers will have seen the miens litters which he addressed to the government, to the toed Lieu tenant, and to the chief secretary. In the heginting of 18.50 Lord Clarendon having considered the emitter over leaked some of his friends and advisers whether it might to ' be eouridered that the sums he bad paid to Mr. Birch were sums which were properly payable out of any public funds, or whether he ought to pay them out of his own private purse. The question was referred, I believe, to my right hon. friend the Chanoellor of the Exchequer, and he said that in his opiates an y mesh to be paid ought to come out of the print* funds of Lord Clarendon. At the et 111811, therefore, and that is in answer to the of die meth lord, any sours which hod been token firma the peddle rand were repaid to that fund, and the whole charge was at the expense of Lord Clarendon. (Hear hear.) But Mr. Birch Ise determined either legve setistety to his transaction se to extort a Imp rams or maw MIS lard Clarendon, made a deseead of 4,11111. lord Cheeses was advised, that if the maths OM before a court of law, es he had set mad* se ethos eistrest for • special sum, es he had Oa moregal this press tam time to time, and had paid him hems time te She, the limy might find a vardist it a very hops sum of sheep, sad het ft would be ram Air him to mho some egreserst wish Mr. Mice to pay him • lam at ease, mad le set sid of his iishead. Is oases‘assee of that laud Chweem hid him making altegethee 3,7001., a sure certainly very hash sere hes adequate hr an envie a he bad remised tow gOviellheet. (Lumbar) With this trensacties, his sisla with the t appear to have ceased, hot assealsod Ifhe hold to extort more money, he psaeaedsito Wag the wham widish was tried bet December, ad the report of whisk the mem- I bees of the Ileum will have reed. It is hardly aesaeary to say perhaps, but Lord Chossies said he never directe is any way what mbeeld be the MUM Of the paper, that, to that time, he hed ash, read • Yrs be It, but that hi read the papr to the with One Tbs. the circumstances of IrLsd wan s seam eil'grem estgety, hat it was never his comma to read ha artirise, I sow eons to the trainee (ions which are esestated, and I think siehly eonashed with the present seetlen. It suits the se b le lost eh , ceedingly well to emit all heath= of the. show senor, which slob • 'pest it lie ciao, which sambas it tide bents will est of which Irishman *mitt to hess_e slew . Is ' the miommanonosat atilliS he desesss moodoliss took place in Frame, whisk is that almatry, and set up a re/Whin Us pM. the of which proclaimed is ISIMINIMIS imidosews adesloste help the depressed notisneltiles of Oho gauntries. Ifs din head ha behold immediately atinepted to his edhstege of that eiresomiteseo • lissietiee ors toot Y leeind sh = c o i r et t i t: purpose of erode. Wind boa Overt isio were established irs Os pope's of of alloyioes to the intro Mor i hos, r= stliglea was ego is Irma slit a view of pebeashe the aid of the pp fie sera he the haste rebellion of Ireland. end Me ague oil net r w :ihe zes tri• =siWhits whisk eight ham, filesillims of r the Memo gore to the g which were ph Is this hose by was who boll retool from that lam. Si, to Male the boos to remember itill more vividly On brepose dish was this held, I will sod some few, mod some SirMamp , elte estesels frees the Dahlia nowoperwei Oda lies got whisk west read with avidity by do peols im wwkklles wess these iselpqmple which supported the eintsides Greet Beight end Ireland were Sew neer* eligglood saws lbe higher classes, or else had • very ibeiNd dreglation. Is the be. Biasing of Minh Sees apporal is an Irish ea article recoonossito slime Ightiog, in which bed to pay bie s i n Sse mil is Para. Advise wee gives to take up the r prepen sh le de destroy the soldiers who be odesigudig le pont the au- .. Sprit). of the go vent. In the United friaMrsa woe ea lusiele remerneettleg the inhabitants to use boiling water, or, what eras better, boiling oil for that purpose. On the llth of March that paper said " We demand a re eolutiont" and on the mane day, " the desire that is in the hearts of us all is to Mutt England to the death." I some now to a of the 18th of March, " And es for the warlike aei ineuessable articles in this newspaper, the will be still continued and improved upon week after week till they have prodused their effect, the effect not of a Street riot to disturb a peaceful meeting, but of a deliberate do. termination to sweep this land of English butchers, mod plant the green flag on the castle of Dublin." Oii another ° day they said, " Weapons are the sinews of war. Where ; bayonets are not to be had, we beg to remind farmers and labourers of the strong English reaping book." And then thy, said, " if it comes to direct fighting in Dublin let all the resources of the country be developed to arm the people with weapons, let no acid be too corrosive, no powder too explosive, nuthing;too hot or too heavy to wield against our enemies." These, sir, were the circumstances in which Lord Clarendon thought it was advisable to endeavour to support an an- I tidote againat such poison.'these were the circumstances in which Lord Clarendon thought it might bu advisable to aid a public writer—to aid not his own administration, but the onus of the united kingdom—the cause of the crowu, the cause of the existence of this empire. (Cheers.) There I is another passage in which, In a similar tone, it is declared that the object is to destroy the British empire. Now, let it be recollected, that these incentives had very great effect, that arms were procured, that pikes were manufactured, and that there were numerous clubs in different parts of the country, as well u &great number in Dublin, avowedly for the purpose of insurrection—of driving out the pu rloins of the Queen's troops from Ireland, of plundering all men of property in that country, and of agitating the people to rebellion. These were the circumstances in which Lord Clarendon was called upon to govern Ireland. On the 2lnd of July, on a Saturday morniiry, I proposed to this house to suspend the Habeas Corpus Act in Ireland; and at 7 o'clock that evening the bill, with only 8 dissentient voices, and with near 300 members in the house, bad passed through all its stages. Now, what must have been the dan ger—what must have been the imminent peril which in duced the members of this house thus unanimously to pass an act suspending the liberty of the subject, and acting with such speed. This measure, together with other measures of Lord Clarendon's, completely defeated the projected insurrection. It was intended by those who took the lead that about the time of harvest the outbreak should take place. When they found government was aware of their deigns, they were forced at once into premature pleasures, eitli their plans unprepared. Lord Clarendon immediately dis patched Ueneral Macdonald into the parts of the country which were threatened, end, as the noble lord now says, the insurrection, which had been formidable, failedentircly, and became perfectly ridiculous from the means which were then in the power of the government. But why did it be• come ridiculous? (Hear, hear.) Why was it that the eoantry was not at least subjected is those weeks of rebel- hon which took place in 1798, or to thou maul consequences which followed it? Because the government of Ireland was alive and vigilant; it was because the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland estimated properly the danger, that those attempts at insurrection were defeated. But more than this. I have alluded to the consequences of the rebellion of 1798, and you who have read the history of it will have !pad with pain of the punishments which attended and followed that insurrec tion. The punishments which followed the attempt of 1848 were of a totally different nature. The chief movers were put on their trial for high treason. They wore con victed of high treason, but no blood was shed on the suf. fuld ; the executioner was not called in to complete what the civil force had effectcl. A great example of clemency was shown, and en example of clemency which had this efleet—that the rankling wounds which timidly attend in surrections of this kind did not fester in Ireland, but after ' a very short time men began to admit that the government had acted both wisely and leniently. However, in the next year it was thought prudent again to suspend the Habeas Corpus Act. There was little opposition and the act was suspended in the beginning of the next session till August, 1819. I wish that to be remarked, be cause I saw that the counsel of Mr. Birch, one of them at lewd, and that has been the tone of the noble lord, con ' tended that all danger was over in 1848. Why, if that had been the case, this house would not have readily agreed to the suspension of the liberty of the subject. Well then, sir, I think it was generally admitted, universally admitted, that Lord Clarendon had shown all the qualities, vigilance, ' prudence, judgment, clemency, which ought to distinguish the Viceroy in difficult and dangerous circumstances. (Cheer') His sovereign readily acknowledged his merits. The highest distinction given by the Crows, Those notaries which Cecil did invest, And gleaned= wise Godolphin 's Wrest, . _ _ were granted to Lord Clarendon as a proof that he bad ful -1 filled his duty. And now, sir, it is attempted, after these r services have been performed, after these dangers have paned, it is attempted to fix a stigma on the character and I to mark with indelible disgrace the man who performed I those services. (Gear, hear.) Why, we should think it t very strange if a ship was in great peril, and the captain, in r the exercise of his judgment and discretion, had b u s e d the efforts of the wind and the waves, and had brought the • ship @eel,' out of the storm, if some one who had nut anieted in that high endeavour had crept up from the hold—Cloud cheers) ; and said, " I must inquire into all this matter by ; which the safety of the vessel has been insured—l must see in what manner you have contrived to save her, and • if I find that any our of your sailor* who has been • engaged in cuttinif down the masts or in pumping the water I out of the vessel so an unworthy person, why I will con , demn you for it, and will take no notice whatever of, and will put made the great fact that you have saved the vessel." (Cheers.) But, sir, I am *till more astonished at the quarter from which this attack proceeds. I could imagine some disappointed demagogue who had hoped to fill a high Mike in the Irish republic of 1848, who had dreamed of being r invested with the insignia of secretary of state in re public, coming back to vent his spite against a governor who had prevented the success of treason; but what I do not understand is a member of a conservative opposition— , (hear, hear)—having had all the benefits which Lord Cla i rendon's wisdom and energies have procured, who owes • to that wisdom and that energy the safety of . his property and the peace of his country, coming down now to arraign the hand by which those benefits have I been procured, and asking the house to condemn the man by whom these results have been effected. (Loud cheers.) Sir, I em sure that such will be the feeling of this house. This house has done nothing—has had no opportunity of doing any thing, by which it can show its sense of the I eminent services of Lord Clarendon; bat, at Last, it will l not give an expression of its opinion upon Lord Clarendon's r administration by a severe and unsparing condemuation. (Hear, hear.) Never was the executive stronger than in the hands of Lord Clarendou ; never has a public authority been more respected, even by those who were his enemies, and never was there a Viceroy who carried on the duties , of his office with more fairness to all parties, with more . courtesy to all who came to him, and with a more earnest wish to endeavour to remedy some of the more grievous , evils of Ireland. (Cheers.) But, sir, I have stated only I what was the nature of the occurrences with regard to this newspaper, the {Vora. I do not propose to follow the noble lord as to the merit or demerit of every transaction • concerning that newspaper; I believe that it was with the r motives that he stated that Lord Clarendon accepted the . services of Mr. Birch when they were tendered; I believe that ho accepted them with the view that they might be of , service in maintaining order when it was so grievonsly as , sailed, that they might form some antidote to that poison which was spreading so rapidly in the land. and which was t likely to have the worst effect on the minds of the people. Whether it is right at any time and on any occasion, I in circumstances of great danger, or in circumstances r when the danger is not so alarming, to spend e ublic money , upon any purpose connected with the pm., is a question which I do not mean to discuss. I think, if you have to deal with that question, you ought to ask the opinion of , those who have been connected with the government of , Ireland. We know very well that in this country, I do not believe it is the custom to what the noble lord calls subsidise the press; I think that is a course which no government would take. But if you want to know the opinion of the men who have been connected with the government of Ire land, ask the chief secretaries who have been there. Take , the Earl of Derby, for instance. (Cheers.) If Lord Derby were to declare that, in no circumstances whatever, was it , right to give public money for purposes connected with the press, that in his opinion it was totally unnecessary for the government of Ireland to do that, that he himself had always carefully abstained from it, I should attach very great weight to that opinion. (Cheers.) I should like to hear likewise the opinions of others who have been the chief se cretaries in Ireland, what has been the practice in that country. For my awn part, I have never been immediately or locally connected with the government of Ireland, and I do not think it necessary on the present occasion to Ray more than that Lord Clarendon seems to have acted with no wish to smigesi his own administration. lie seems to have acted oily he the public good, and, as I believe, has acted in a easmaer not different from the conduct of other persons wise have been in the government of Ireland. There isaaotiavguoMfoa which the noble lord raises, whether he should hauspaidasy of this sum of money, supposing any was to be shim to editor of a newspaper, to the editor of a netaeptpwd a disreputable character ; but the noble lord ht~aerdSW ha esedit to the assertion that he was not swan jtie &waster of the newspaper. He believed it hod ism to his knowledge that when this editor was in prima $ simmiai, very respectably signed, had been pre sented Ilee lis release. With regard to the question whether Left I:lkwewime should have continued so long to give =es the eater of this newspaper, and whether he have paid the two thousand pounds, his own oplaisa was that it would have been more dise.cet conduit in Lord Clarendon if he had refused to pay AM sum, and had refused to compromise the action. As I 'Mod at the beginning, I have only heard of these ass'e's. lately, and I have formed my judgment upon OM= as I have heard of them ; hut I do think that any IMO? of that kind is of no such very great importance that it ought to be weighed, even with the weight of a feather, against the 'aliment and undoubted services of Lord Claren dos. (Cheers.) Well, then, air, the grave question before the home is this. You have to consider the interests of &d -aisies:aliens in general—you have to consider the character a the ple whe have been brought before you, and I am that yea will be et opinion that it neither consists Ira eke ddpky of parliament air with the welfare of the seewilep that pas dwell preemie the condemnation which I preyed kr. (Owen.) La i li me ne m of Lord Chiron dan—as one who has always and who for many years has loved him—l acs ready re his chancier in the hands of the House of Oseenesae, and I am sure that be will have justice by pees deifies. (Great cheering.) Mr. DISRAELI—The argsasent of the noble lord who I has spoken appears to he this ; pat down a rebellion, and if you are successful, never triad what are your means, you I may appeal to your ambrosia for a verdict in your J flavour. (Cheers) Bet is that the doctri ne t hat win b e supported by the members of a liberal teeny ? (ilear hear.) Is that the reason that will apply t o any other rebel lion in Ireland—that, if the house should he so weak as to criticise the conduct of a government which has been sum cossful, it should be regardless of the means it does not ap prove ? This position is ouo—l will not say politically ire. morel, because it is not necessary for me to use strong terms—but it is ono that I ant NUM the House of Commons will never sanction. (Hear, hear.) But th e mom extraor dinary circumstances in the address of the First Hie mister is the position in which he pieces the Lord whose conduct is now w i t h reference to the Lord Lieutenant under our consideration. According to the noble lord there was a great crisis in Ireland, the existence of the empire was at stake, and no strong was the feeling of the House of Commons upon the matter, that the sus. pension of the Habeas Corpus Act was ' , wooed and was carried in one day. It was in consequence of the energy— oththeciiramtrei o a t n ic s. t e h n a e t rg i y .or o d f e tte r. l i l d u o use n . o v f i4 Co i mm o, i i i . 7, a ile nde t thee e empire. What are the other means? Mr. Birch. (Cheers and laughter.) The government of belated is brought before our attention, because it has publicly been placed in communication with the editor of a jointed under cir cumstances which arc supposed to have been maculated to lessen its influence and authority iu the country ; rout what says the nobe lord ? The pubic lord se). that there was • rebellion which the administration of that country was able to put down, supported by the unanimous vote of the parliament of Fargland. What has that to do with the question before us ? There was a great chuieee of every honest person in the country being plundered ; and to pre. vent that, the Lord Lieutenant has called to his ceuncils the editor of a newspaper. Ile (Lord Clarenden) was the scapegoat, I suppose, to prevent every honest man from being plundered, by paying 3,7001. (cries of "uh," sa d counter cheers.) I only wish early to put liefore the house the issue at stake; and that issue is the conduct of the ad. ministration of Ireland. There are certain facts which are placed before us, and their accuracy is not denied. The truth of the statements made by the noble lord, the teem of the resolution, has not fur a moment been shale lenged. The question then is, whither these are circumstances that aro calculated, in the hen of the motion, "to weaken the nuthordy of the executive, and to reflect discredit upon the adenines tration of public affairs i" Well, arc these eircumstences that arc calculated to strengthen the authority of the exe cutive, or are they circumstances to reflect credit on the ad. mini-tration of public aff.irs ? (Hem-, bear.) Have we here, or have we nut, an inkling of • system prejudicial to public morality, and to the well adminietniting of affeinil (near, bear.) The noble lord (Loyd J. Itusuill), with strange inconsistency, after he had admitted all the facts and their inevitable consequence., says thin was an anoma lous and exceptional state of thing.., produced only by rebel. line ; sett yet at the same time he appeals to th e aut h or i ty of other Secretaries for Ireland. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord has alluded to the course pursued by Lord Eliot in 1841, with respect to a public journal ; and had hinted that Lord Derby would nut deny that he had, to use the political term, subsidised the press of Ireland. II he had said that was an unprecedented occurrence, a course adopted in some alarm, and under circurnseances of ,peril to the government of the country, I should a gree nab the noble lord that there might be some colour l.r drawing an extenuating inference in favour of his Excellency ; but, at the very moment that he excus es th ese transact i ons, be cause they are exceptional circumstances occasioned by re bellion, the noble lord says that they are the orelmary transactions of that country. (Rear, hear.) Well, then, the noble lord cannot have the advantage of both these positions ; and it is because these are ordinary transactions in that country, ao the noble lord has not only admitted but proved, that I ask the calm mid dispaasionett judgment of the House of Commons upon the real question in dis pute, namely, whether this is eouduct winch they will justify by their vote, and sanction by their appruhation— whether they think that it is not a system which is CAC*. latest " to weaken the authority of the executive, and to re fleet discredit upon the administration of the public af fairs ? " (Cheers.) Nuw, after the fervent declaration of the noble lord, 1 have brought beck the questi on t o t h e rea l point at issue. Lord Eliot and Lord Derby may ha,. acted as the noble lord says, hut that is only an additional argument why the house should express its opinion upon such transactions. The noble lord has relinquished his original ground, and the position he has takeu up in the heat of declamation renders it impossible that he can ndo off front the merits of the case by an appeal respecting the extraordinary crisis of extreme national peril. (Hear, hear ) If this were indeed a motion brought to cast a stigma upon an individual character, I am quite sure that my noble friend who has brought forward the motion in so temperate a manner—(hear, hear)—and who prides himself upon beiug an Irishman, would never have been the person to have proposed it ; and I should certainly have never given it my support. If it were an extraordinary transactiow which had only occurred in a time of the highest political excitement, every true and just man would have cast a veil over it. (Ironical cheers) Tacy would have said that it was a circumstance which had never occurred before, and which would' probably never occur again ; but that cheer to which I have just listened is the very best argument in favour of this motion, for we have it placed before us, by the confession of the First Minister, that it is part of a system—(cheers)--and that every secretary and Lord-Lieutenant has pursued this system. If we believe that system to be a most pernicious one, it is not an affair of feeling and taste for the Mouse of Commons, but it is an affair of public duty that we should examine into these re markable circumstances, and express our opinion apon them. (Cheers.) Mr. Disraeli teen retorted upon Lord.). Russell for his allusion to Lord Derby, by showing (from Lord Cloncurry's memoirs) that When Lord Anglesea est up a newspaper in Ireland, the then Mr. rtanley had little influence with him, but that one of his prime advisers was Mr. George Villiers—now Lord Clarendon. With all this experience of Irish journalism and Irish polities it was diffi cult to believe Lord Clarendon had bee is so ignorant of Mr. Birch and paper as fie was said to be. Further remarkieg upon the odious character of the journal which Lord Clarendon had selected as his organ, lie asked whe ther, if it were admitted that the system Ili subsidizing the Irish prose from the public money had long ceittinned, par liament were willing that sueh a system should still con tinue ; and that, he declared, in conclusion, WA, the real question before the house. Mr. 110BlIOUSE vehemently defended the conduct of Lord Clarendon, and declared that the aho ore of choice, as regarded newspaper support, drove him to accept the ser vices of the only journal whose columns were open to him. Former Irish secretaries and lord-lieutenants—cspecially Lord Stanley, had rewarded newspaper writers not with money merely but with important government patronage— even judgeships, he believed. lie described this as a party motion, of which nothing would have been heard had Lord Clarendon played more into the hands of the Orange and bigot faction in Ireland. Mr. SIIARMAN CRAWFORD bad a great respect for Lord Clarendon, but must record his vote against the mis chievous system of subsidizing the Irish press. After sundry calls few • division, and a rather long pewee, Mr. MOORE said, the only objection that could be urged against this motion, which deeply involved the ho nour and character of that house, was that it was a party motion ; which he denied. Ile denounced the If era while associated with Lord Clarendon's government, in the strongest terms of vituperation, and reproached the noble earl with being the elope at once of the villany of Birch and the lunacy of Mitchell, whose incendiary publications were suffered to circulate unchecked. lie declared the plea of ignorance of Birch's loathsome and notorious cha racter amounted to a plea of insanity, rf needed the Mitchell disturbances, which he called the "Clarendon insurrec tion," and taunted the ministers with having brought in the new Reform Bill, to get rid by a side wind of motions like this. In the name of society itself he called on the house to condemn the pollution of Lord Clarendon's policy. Mr. ROCIIE considered that the policy of Lord Claren- Idon had little to do with the question, which was, whether his conduct with relation to this infamous newspaper could he borne out. The first minister had admitted that the ser mention wu founded. Theo had Lord Clarendon bra sufficiently punished ? Ile believed he had. lie believed, likewise, that the motion had another motive than ven geance against Lord Clarendon—namely a desire to place another party in power, in which Inc d i d not share. The prime promoter of this motion was a nobleman (Lord Derby) who might, if he would, have met Lord Clereudon where Le could defend himself. He did not think the Lied Lien. tenant happy in his defenders in that house. But, as the carrying this motion would involve a change of gayer's meat, be should vote against it (though no person could excuse Lord Clarendon's deplorable conduct), because he considered the opposition unfit fur office. The Irish repre sentatives who were supporting the motion were committing a great mistake. Colonel SIBTIIORP viewed the whole transaction as a reflection upon the government. He objected to the go vernment escaping item chastisement by merely offering to pay for the mischief they had done. lie thanked Lord Naas for having had the moral courage to bring this ques tion forward ; and observed that the disclosures gate, some idea of what was done with secret-service money. Dr. POWER was not convinced that the character of the executive in Ireland had been weakened, or the erlminis ttest of a severe morality, there was much to palliate. Ile ofra Lotiorndocfuirepubolidcoallff ai w n hk b h m , ug th h 9 t ug in h to i di t t re ou p l u d te ;to b t Y man who had duce so much for Irel an d. Mummer, he must oppose a resolution which ca s t • stigm a up o u a noble man b e a r t he , t a c h e t would not vote for a motion intended to place die opposition , in office. - Mr. NEWDEGATE observed that Lord J. Rumen had not approved of the employment by Lord Clarendon of a convicted libeller, or of his paying hint from the pubho money; and ho (Mr. Newdegate) should support the reso lution which condemned these ac:s as di.creditable to the government. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had very properly dishonoured the drafts of the noble earl, and he had to pay them (ruin his own pocket. When called upon to vote upon the motion before them, how could he refuse to condemn conduct which bad been practically condemned by the government itself? Colonel THOMI'SON said, the question be put to him self was whether he should side with a convicted libellee or with his victim. lie had an doubt that Lord Clarendon deeply regretted that he had formed a connection with Mr. Birch. It would be, however, puritanical impertinence to affect to see any deep guilt in such an act. Lord C. HAMILTON, though enjoying the privilege of an acquaintance with Lord Clarendon, whose talent/ hs admired, still felt it to be hi• painful duty to record his vote, not to °Deteron his whole career, or to depreciate his public character, but to recognise the fact that his great qualities had not preserved him from a grave error. Lord J. Russell had talked as if Birch's articles had put down the Irish rebellion, and had utterly forgotten the general loyalty of the people of Ireland. He should vote for the motion on principle, but without at suplort i so t tin They of Com from 11 webs. such • The to was Mr. until 1 The the ho Th( in the Priv by Lie The of But The ioclud C. B. Bowie A d Caul& and 11 Grey an int, lei to the Lord 1 _ . Des music Office. Addo Cante !tami Romm Th teem held ( half -1 amt. joinil R.l huh move been ?eta? perie to ow 1; amid morn .ern open] comet tuna