The Express. — London, England, 1851-04-10 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY. EVENING, APRIL 10, 1851. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. !! HOUSE OF CONINIONS.—WZDNEADAT, APRIL 9. The St axes toot the chair at 12 o'clock. PUBLIC BUSINESS , PETITIONS PRESENTED. Satrur tr.i.o M snare.—By Lord BURGHLEY, from ; fiSei of the principal tanners and graziers in the county of Lincoln; Mr. DUPRE, from .100 farmers and graziers in " Bockin4liamdeire ; Hon. O. NOEL, from farmers and I rrs aide id the county of Ru tland ; Mr. EVELYN, front farmer. and graziers of Surrey ; Mr. J. the 1 LI AMS, from the firmer. and graziers of county of Kent; the End of ARUNDEL and SURREY, from Arundel; Mr sTAEFORD, from 493 of the farmers and grasiers of Northampton ; Sir J. DUKE, from up wards of MOM inhabitants of London, also one from St. Dotolph ; against the removal of Smithfield-market. By Mr. FARNHAM, from Lutterwurth; Colonel TINTS, from the horonth of Briditenorth and the neighbourhood ; Mr. STANFORD, from Readinc ; Lord A. HERVEY, 1 from Itrorhtort; Mr. BONHAM CARTER, from the Societe for the P r i. ri ntiont of Cruelty to Animals,' Lord }t. ( iIIOSVENoIt, from Paddington • Mr. FITZROY, from a plan. in Sunors ; Sir E. BUXTON, from a place not heard ; Mr. 11. DItt7MMON D. from the fanners and Frsier. of Wnt Surrey ; Mr. HENLEY, from Osford skiam ; Sir 0. e 011F.Y (us the nfinenee of the First Lord of the Tie ivory), from 3.),000 hankers, merchant., and other., of the City of Loudon • Mr. CHRISTOPHER, from farm , ri and grask-ri of the county of Lincoln, from litansford and from Huston; Mr. DIV ETT, from Ender: Mr. HENRY, from Liverpool ; Mr. GREN VILLE BERK ELEY, from the Forest of Dean ; fur the removal of ' • s.r. ALDAN": ELECTION COMMITTEE. Prrt mon Or Ilasut EDWARO4.—Sir. MAIO:CRY *Mil with the permission of the house he would postpone the order of the day for thu consideration of the petition of Henry Edwards. and he would move "that so much of the evidence taken lo fore the St. Albans election committee, as constitutes the charge reported by the committee upon which Henry E.l.Jirth ha. been committ.-d to the custody of the Siirgiartbat-Arms, be laid before this house." Sir G. CLERK hoped the hon. member would en far amend his motion an to stat that te short-hand writer attending the Rt. Albans el ec tion sho h uld attend at the bar of the house with an much of the evidence a. refers to the special report on which Mr. !henry Edwards was taken into custody. The motion, as altered according to Sir G. Clerk's suggestion that the shorthand-writer attend at the bar of the house with his notes, was then agreed to. METICOPOLITAN BILL. Mr. E. It. DENISON, in moving that the order for tho atn 1 reading of this bill be discharged, said eircoilsrs had )wan distributed alleging that this bill WAS promoted by the (Jr. t Northern Railway Company. That was not the fart ; the lireiit Nortliersi Railway Company had nothing to do with it nor had he. lle wins inked to join in the promotion of a scheme to procure a fresh vile fur a new market to which be ntisl, on the understanding that twit of the directors of the forth Western would join in it, but neither on the part of the Great Northern or individually had he anything to do with this bill. Thi• urdrr fur the second reading of this bill wmi then SNIIT11111:1.1) ENLAILGEMENT BILL. Sir J. 1)1' K E moved that this bill he read • ra-cond time. Mr. CIIIIISTOP II ER said there were two measures now before them her their consideration. One was a measure prejened by gon eminent, in arcortl.tner with a reettninien detion not only from a 'alert committer, but of art - num...mu appoint...l by governine tit, to whim, the evidence taken bele ere the coonnittee was referred, and by whom additional • %i -diot. ass bairn, and they tame tat the conclusion, with the exception ter only two members of the corporation of the I.•ity of Loudon, that the market ought to he removed. Ile un derstood. also, that the corporation eel the City of London hail had the option, if they chow, of taking the new market entirely into their own hands ; they might Buse had the power 01 regulating it, and of taking such tolls as they thought prom r. Rut this unrefentied corporation of the City of London, whine proceedaties were so immaculate as tee exempt it from the reform a huh all tether corporations had snub 'gone, lad refused romplianee with the re-con 00000 oda times tor the committee and of the commission, and had d e termined to a dhere to the present site, ow rather to re-- I move it a few hundred yards, which would lee grently tee the detriment of the fanners and graziers who sent their stock le that market. The measure which hail hewn pro: powsl by her M.ojenty'e goverment, he thought upon the whole was a fair me:aelan.. That measure wan for the entire removal nt the market to some multurlsite district, and powers were given in the hill for the appoint lit of a tom- Moat,. which ',bomb' determine where the market should b.. Ile. Wen. friend the Secretary for the Male IN-part- went load states' that he should refer that hill to a select nantuittte, to he' (1111.11 by the committee of selection. 11e wish, .1 to impress on the house that there were other leerwnn COIWPTIWA in thin matter than the salt smell who attended the market and a certain num!. rof the butchers in the metropolis. lie main tit' I that the interests of the farmer. and graziers dyer eught to be considered. The tint reeolutitm agrees" to by the committee wes, "'That it is the opinion of this cone. =db : that the continuance of the wile of live stork in Smithfield is proved by esperionece to be attended with M.- T 191.1, inconvenience, and that it ought tee be remedied." They also nuolnel that these ince tie veniences anal objections hare locen in some measure 14.1110V111, by the ewe of the canen of the ('ity tef Lentlon, but no long us the market continuo' in if. present situation the incon veniences ref e reed let will not he capable of prevention." 11.- thought that in ileferenee tee the opinion of the tom s,Yttee .and in deferents. alv, tee the recommendation of the comeossiteuers, it would have letsii more becoming in the antrefortnegt eorporttiott or the City of London tee have acted La ar1...F41411et• with them, but moete.a of that, they prnisirtetl to remedy noose of the ineonveuienees hey enlarging the mar ket a tent of nearly a million of intuit y. With regard to the inconveniences of the present market, the cattle arrived on Saturday evening anal on Sunday night. all night through, they were driven through the narrow street es into Smithfield market, and there at five ear six in the morning the> were uffenel for tsile. Now when they considered, that at the last l'hriettnatt market at Smithfield there were 7,1iel heed of rattle and 30,000 sheep in an an-a of nix urea, and that there was scarcely • market in which there were not upwanle of 4,000 head of cattle and 21,000 sheep, could any one say, whose rye's were nut blinded by Ins connexion weals the corptwation, say that that was sufficient. It was a notoriow fart, that as many as 2,1100 head of cattle frequently 116.11 from the market, because they could not find a single' pen to put them in. The towns queme of the present /date of things was, that the graziers were entirely at the mere/ of the salesmen of the clay. Ile had the evidence of • greater, that on one oteueion fie am, in consequence of the want of room, obliged to submit to a 1.1.1.1 of :V. a had on hi. cattle. 'l' he hon. gentleman then quoted from the evidence given before the committee, show ing the deterioration of the rattle from being he-ruined in in no confined • many. lie every other large- town endea vour. were being made to remove cattle markets and slaughtering from the town. In the city eel Et:lmbue:Si they had met been in the habit of permitting the slaughtering of animals in the city. The opponents of the proposed remise,' were eYirty the eileainess, who would only obtain • larger Misr poly if the y could prtaule an extension of the prowl mullet. No sensible, intlevol, were they of thin, that they bad even not ageete down to lloreecaelle, Stamford, awl MINT tolerator Lincolnshire, blery up the advantagt Sof the amperes thin ',lan. Ile fiche however, that the farmers and minim et Norfolk and Lincolnshire- We're. Annealy opposeel to the measure. tllear, hear.) Ile hoped the homer would alsohdi the alsiminahle Mika/WV of Smithfield altogether; and me the most effectual week of g that he Mama.' support the hill which her Majeety's go, eminent had pro- W. (near begved, thenfone. to move that this (Mr. lltristophcr turning to the hon. plait ITI3II next him bite asked, •• What bill is it ?"--aa question which set the benne in • roar.) Ile would mote that the bill be mod • sesmul time the day six months. (Cheeerc.) Mr. EITZliOli considered that the fact of the teuieaneo of the present market was sufficiently proved by the fact that the corporation had found it neces sary to proposo a plain fur it. ittiprneemsitt. Their scheme, however, did not meet with hie approval. The corporation claimed the whole management and monopoly f tle• market, but how good the facto? Wino Smithheld was established the whole population of London was C.,Mpf1.41 within the walls, and the market was then outside. (near, hear.) Now, hole vier. the popu lation within the wallet numbered only 120.0ft11 ; and the corporation, who were chosen by only 4,0.10 of theme 120,1100, assumed to themselves the right to keep up a market within the me tropolis. (Hear, hear.) There• were only two claw, who oppeseel its removal, namely, the nets poraton and the makflal n and euttawy-takeis. Now, with eneresu to the hew of these clans, he thought it would he &dais dole, before they received the petition presented by the enrporation a. one emanating from so large and important • body as the citizens of London, they nutlet to lye satisfied that the signatures were genuine—that Was, in the tint place, that the signatures themselves were not forged; and, weondly, that they had not been mermen' , under false pretence's. lie had a lint of names of persons whine signatures had been affixed to that petition, all of whom were ready tae make affitillit that such Oen etures were either forgeries ear obtained under the idea that it wan ha the removal of the market from the metropolis alto. 'tgether. (hear, hear.) The lint name was that of William West, of Nu. ;3. Oran:church-street, which had been forged; and the recent' Wl* that of William Park, of '23 Philpot-lane, which had h 'en of-twined in the fraudulent manner he had deseerihed. In another case, a child or six years old had been indeed to forge it. father's same, and he had in all el names, but he would not trouble the house ley going through them all. (blear, heat.) In entrust with this petition the hon. gentleman then read a list of pentons of eminence in the City, com mencing with Mr. Jame. Lnyd, who were in tumor of the 'market's removal. The hon. baronet (Sir J. Duke) ir.ls prolnehly not aware that no fewer than 2,121 signetureshad been procured to a petition against the market in hi. own ward, and that every resident inhabitant in Fleet-street had signed it. (Cheers.) Now, with respect to the mit. muu and money-takers, it was quite true that their indi vidual interests might be injured ; but the grounds which 'owed against the removal were nut founded in truth. ' would destroy the trade ; but his opinion, on r, was that it would improve it. (Cheers.) The steed to be afforded by the projected ea war clearly ineutticient. Mr. Taylor, in ace bctine the commiesienters, had stated maximum number of Iteutn required to ap .x,1100; Inherean, un Iberniber 9th is last publielical returns showed that there were 5.71i1". ibtk G,SOO. On a subsequent occasion there We than TAO. (Clams.) He salted the house, ----------- th e se w hether space fur 5,1)00 was sulkiest, in the face of 1 much numhers, and of a rapidly increasing supply It had been estimated that an annual loos of '200,00D1. accrued in consequence of ape crowded state of the cattle. It was estimated that eight millions a year was spent in the market • but taking it at seven millions, and allowing the very moderate deduction of 2 per cent. fur the deterioration in the value of the stock owing to the treatment it under went, that would make 140,0001. which the graziers must annually lose. (Cheers.) But there was also a loss to the butcher, which was of course thrown upon the COlolllllo'. (H e ar.) There would also be another loss consequent upon the extension of the market, and that woo the loss arising from the enormously increased tolls. Sir C. K NIGHT LEY could not for the life of him under stand what bed induced his hon. friend, who had just sat down, to meddle with either of these bill.. for he did not think the hon. gentleman had ever fattened an ox or a sheep in his life. (Laughter.) lie (Sir C. Knightley), however, had been in the habit, fur the lest 40 years, of sending cattle to London to the amount of a hundred in the course of a season, and he positively declared that he never had a loos or an ac? ident of any sort or kind during the whole of that period. (Loud cheers.) Independent of that he must STOW, with respect to the money-takers, that he had never kuown a department more admirably managed, and that he had never lost a farthing by them, or had a dispute with them in his life. (Loud cheers.) Honourable gentlemen had talked of the serious misfortunes which had happened owing to these horned monsters being driven through the streets ; and they had been peculiarly pathetic with respect to fine ladies, and to nursery maids and chil dren. Now on that point he must olewrve that most of the able were sold, driven to the butchers, and half of them Mad before your fine ladies were out of bed—(laughter) — end as for nursery muds with children. they had no busi ness in the streets leading to Smithfield. (Renewed brighter.) Had they ever reflected on the number et carts that would be required to carry the meat ~tuned in London five or six miles i Why the streets would be as much crowded as at present, and much more dans emotes. (Hear.) Besides the price of meat would be raised and in summer it would he almost impossible to get it fresh. (Cheers.) As, then, he was averse to innovation, he should I give his most unqualified opposition—(loud laughter)—he mused support to the bill. (Cheers.) Sir H. VEItNEY believed that it was quite true that there were no finer beasts brought to market then those sent by the hon. baronet the member fur Northamptonshire, who had just addressed the house. (Hear, hear.) As a member of the commission, lie must take this opportunity of expressing their obligations to the corperetion for the courtesy with which they bad been treated ; but he metal um that he hail taken a different view of the case from that which bud been expressed by the hon. baronet (Sir Charles Kniehtley). Ile should certainly emanort the amendment. Mr. M . WILLIAMS observed that the inhabitants of the metropolis had just grounds for congratulation in the • ereal opinion that a change in the existing state a things ought to be made. Ile thought that both hills ought to be referred to a select committee. (Cheers.) lie should certainly never yield his cuusent to the government bill. Mr. KEIL SEYellilL also thought that the two bills went competing measures and ought to be referred to the some committee ; and this he thought was proved by the fact that out of the four honourable gentlemen who had addressed the house two were unable to tell on which bill they were speaking. (Hear, hear.) 'lie re were two pundit involved in the matter; first, the eanitery question; and, secondly, the driving of cattle through the street. Now, with respect to the latter, he could not we that the government bill would in the least degree prevent it, for it did not propose to put down elettehter-houses in London, and therefore cattle must be driven through the eleven to there. (Cheers.) With re gard to the other point, it was his opinion the open spree of Smithfield fully counteracted the evil effect: of holding a teeth. market there twice a week. (Hear, hear.) It' the noxious trades could be removed, and the open epees still maintained, lie would admit that the government pro posal would lie a great improvement, but he understood that Smithfield wa• to he built over. (Hear, hear.) He hoped, therefore, that the corporation plan would be ear- reed, because it would lead to the abolition of t le most dis gusting and most abonnuahle collection of nuisances that existed together in any part of the world. (Cheers.) l Sir J. DUKE wished to correct it statement which had 'wen made by the hon. member for Lewes (Mr. Fitzroy), namely, that the whole of the inhabitants of Fleet-street hall signed the petition in favour of the removal of Smith. field market. No.*, it hail .1 happened, that he sat mil Monday in St. I)unstan's church for two hours, being an fortunately engaged in hearing the caws of defaulters Le their rates; the whole of the parochial authorities were pee scut, and every one of them expressed a hope that the !OF reetion would succeed in carrying their bill. ( Hear , hear. ) rherefore, he tl lit, he wits JU•ditied in thinking that the hun. gentleman must have been misinformed. Ile could anent I the house that if there was not a serious determination on the part of the civil authorities to remedy existing evils, be 1 eltionla not support the bill of the corporation. Reference had been made to the driving of cattle through the streets in the daytime, hut that unpardunahle nuisance arose from un act of parliament, which forhade the elapsing of the mar ket, or any part thereof, until three o'clock in the after noon. (Chien.) The hon. gentleman (Mr. Chris topher) had stated that only a small portion of the stuck brought to the market came from the email, but he had forgotten also to say that one third went over Blackfriars-bridge. (Cheers.) lie, for one, was quite willing that the bill should be referred with the government measure to a seine committee, but he should protest against the government hieing allowed to na:ne that ce 1111 l niltee. (Hear, hear.) Let it lee named by the eons- mittve of selection, and they would be perketly le:dished. (Cheers.) lie did hope, then, that the house would kindly consent to the second reading, upon the pro mise that it be referred, with the government bill, to a select committee; and if it did not appear to that commit tee to remade an ample remedy for all the evils complained of, ho would cease to give it his support. (Loud cheers.) Mr. C. LEWIS said he would briefly state the grounds un which he should support the amendment, and which had induced the government to propose their 'pill. In 1819,a select committee had sat on the subject, and come to the conclu sion that the market should be removed, recommending the subject to the consideration of the government. The government appointed a commission of perfectly indepen dent members, to whoin they referred the report of the select committee. The ulticere of the corporation then ad mitted the inadequacy of Smithfield market to the wants of the metrepolie•, and this was, in fate, the foundation of the hill before the house. The City lead before the commission a very elaborate plea, proposing to abandon the whole of the present market except ono acre, and add other 111 acres to the site. This ground was in the very heart of the City, necessarily covered with building*, some of much value. The estimate for this enlargement was nearly half a million. They thus proposed to create a new market newly double the sire of the present ; and if the question was coulined to the precincts of the City, the I plen prowled would doubtle,. be a great improvement. But the question wee, whether the market should be per petuated in the City or removed to a convenient distance. After the report et the commission, recommending that the plan of the City should be rejected and a market established in the suburbs, a letter was addressed to the corporation of London by the Right lion. Secretary for the Hume lb:pan ment offering them the management of the proposed mar- I kit, with the right to receive the tolls. The Common Council, after fully defeating the matter, rejected the offer, and decided to stand on their own plan, Atter this refusal, the government could only carry out their measure, in the alrelice of any body representing the entire metropolis, by appending a Apnea CORlMialhion. The question fur the house now to decide was, whether they would perpetuate in the heart of the City, clew to St. foul's and the Dank, .111,i in the most frequented pert, so great an inconvenience —he would not say nuisance—as a market for live cattle. (1 dear, hear.) This question ought to be decided by the house, and not by a committee appointed by the committee of selection. The government bill lett the question of site at large, to be decided by an inde pendent commission; they had no preference for any site, and had not expressed an upiuion in favour of one over an other. There were clauses regulating the driving of cattle, and plaeiueg slaughter-hoe., under the irtepee• ion of the invaded,* Ile admitted that the plan of the City was a good one, it' the premises were granted, which he denied, that it w es desirable to retain the market within the pre. times of the City. Mr. Aldenneu SIDNEY said that no one would ask for the perpetuatiou of Sinitldield•market as it exieted. for it was is great nuisance. The are, was too MU ill ; much cruelty was practised towards the cattle; and the driving through the streets was a great inconvenience. But the corporation bill would obviate all (hear objections. It had been stated that the corporation had refused the manage ment of the einerunisiit inerket. They hail dour so in the belief thin they were trustees for Smithfield-merket, not fur the increase of their own funds, but fir the benefit of the public at large. The government ought not to become men:leers of a public market; such a position was un• worthy of them, and would give rise to great inconvenience. It was said this was not a government measure; but the right hon. gent.emen who heel just spoken had, in effect, admitted that it was ; and he had no doubt the influence of government had been exerted on the question. 'Thus the ' first city of the empire, when seeking to defend the privi leges it hail eajoyed for ccuturies, was met by the government itself. The corporation bill would provide accommodation for tying-up twice the number of cattle that had ever been sent to market; it also provided that no cattle should issue from the market except between seven and ten in the morning, the remedying the toren veuiencee now eompleined of. By the government bill the make: would be removed to a remote suburb, and them would be much less inconvenience in driving tattle to and front a central market than to and from me in a northern suburb. One-third the cattle came over lilackfriarrebridge, and these would have to be driven through its mike ot streets before reaching the market. Bat what right had the government to invade the prescriptive rights and prisi , lege. of the City, which had never been abused from the earliest period ? Wes it likely that the government would menage a matter ot this kind so well as it had been ma naged by the corporation ? They might be extremely well versed in diplomatic relations, and with questions etfetting the nation at large; they would be mistaken if they at tempted to regulate the affairs of the City of London. They might as well attempt to create a human bentu as create a market in 'his way. The re venue of Smithfield-market was nine-and.e.half millions sterling, 4111 such a sera ought not to he dealt with in this way. The City would submit to it with a bad grace. The noble lord at the heed of the government was trying to scree two masters, and must expert to incur the displeasure of his conwitut nta by this measure. (" Hear, hear," and " Oh, oh.") tientletnen might cry e 06," but what were they there for hut to de feud the interests of their emestituente The petition pr. seated against the City bill bad hen tot up by the exertions of paid agents. As to the holding of, a market is the centre of the City being prejudicial to beak there was abundance of evidence to show that the Isllnteiet around Smithflehl was the most healthy in the fie , ; this had been proved at the time of the cholera in 1849 and 1832. Closely abutting on the market were several large establishments, two gnsoas a workhouse, the I Charter-house, and Christ's Hospital. n a populatiun of 950 boys in the latter, the aver age luch had mortality been had only bee to 4i per annum. (Hear, hear.) Nas n the necessity of providing abattoirs ; but it should be remembered that the slaughter-houses around Smith- Geld market were not brought there by that market, hut by Newgate-market. The government might I therefore as well shut up that and Leadenhall-market, By removing Smithfield-market they would not necessarily ' shut up a single slaughter-house. On this question they would have to deal with 1,500 butchers of the metropolis —(laughter)—who had vested interests in the property. He threw himself on the justice of the house, and contended that the government measure ought to be rejected. Mr. HUME said the only question was whether the City of London was able and willing to remove the nuisance which uni3uestionably esisted. It was no question of vested rights. Iwo plans were before the house. That of the government was entirely vague as to aite and everything else. The corporation plan promised to remedy the evils ; and was it not fit they should have the oppartuuity of showing what they could do? There ought to be a fair inquiry up stairs. He would not refer the matter to the committee of selection; fur the question was not one affecting the City merely, but the supply of food fur two millions of people. lie should support the second reading of the bill. Mr. WAKLEY thought that the speech of the right hon. gentleman (Mr. C. Lewis), meant to be against the bill, was absolutely conclusive in its favour. He admitted the government had no plan. They asked for a roving commission, to establish a market somewhere. Last year the government were undertakers, and he thought they had buried themselves ; now it was to be " Russell and Co., butchers." (Great laughter.) He called on the government to withdraw their opposition, and thus give a fair chance to both parties. Sir G. GREY said there were two important distinctions between these bills. In this ewe there was a preliminary question, which the house had undertaken to decide, and with this view referred it to a committee, and next to a commission. Evidence had been taken by the committee and the commission on the subject, of which the house was in possession ; and was, therefore, enabled to decide the prin ciple to be adopted. (Hear, hear.) 'these bills were nut merely competing but actu al) conflicting to a great extent, the measure introduced by the government being fatal to the continuance of Smithfield market, whilst on the other side the hon. member for Northamptonshire was up as an advocate to show that fur forty years cattle had been driven to that market without any accident , w hatever occurring. Now, after the recommenda- tions of the committee, as also those of the commission, both of which bodies arrived at the conclusion that no iinprivenient in the internal disposition of the market could obviate it', evils as regarded situation in the centre of this great metropolis, it was evident that removal was necessary. (Hear, hear.) Ile would only call attention to one more fact, to which, by the way, attention had not been called there for the first time—namely, that in 1509 the l'rivy Council refused to extend the posers of the London corporation to enlarge this market. Mr STAFFORD obseeved that he had taken the trouble to go through that part of the City props set to be affected by the bills before the house, and, with the exception of • sausage manufactory in rather ominous proximity with •1 knacker's yard—(laughter) —he had witnessed every calling and avocation practised in that populous and ihilustriutis heralds , . Ile asked the house to concede the proposition of the hon. baronet—(Sir James Duke, as we understood)—not merely on the score of humanity, but ou the still stronger ground of self-preservation. lion. gentlemen might depend on it that, whilst these haunts of disease. of typhus and cholera, were lett uncared fur, as they would be by the government measure--(uh, oh !)—there could be no im provement whatever. How many hon. members prepared to support the government were aware of the fact ou which lie challenged denial—namely, that if ousted in the present instance, the corporation had the power, under their acts, to enable them to establish markets, to build over the at present enclosed area of Sittithfield ? Let the govern ment answer that it' they could. The petition which he presented that day from the farmers and graziery of North amptonshire, who should kuuw something of the matter , exactly coinciding in his views, consequently increased his determination to oppose the measure of her Majesty's government. Mr. W. MILES said that Smithfield had been con demned by public opinion, and he hoped the nuisance would be aholiseaal. (Hear, hear.) Mr. B. OSBORNE thought that honourable gentlemen were going to vote without knowing what the govern. ment bill contained. It was a bill containing no sche dule—no prices as charged were stated. They might be any sum; and, therefore, he warned honourable gentle men that they might by any precipitate course in the matter only raise the price of meat on the householders and chases in general. (Hear.) The question was nut a grazier's question, nor a corporation. nor a butcher's question; 'the question was how two millions and a half of persons were to he fed. He would vote with the hon. member for London (Sir J. Duke) in sending the bill to a select com mittee. (Hear, hear.) Mr. S. WOItTLEI denietithat the alternative presented to the house was, as Sir G. Grey had stated,whether one of two localities slimll he preferred ; the government had sug gested no locality. 'the real question was whether the cor poration, bring in posseceion of a valuable market, which was inadequate to existing wants, and came forward with a scheme which the commissioners had described aa a vast im provement, were not entitled to an inquiry ? The corporation bill was opposed by Sir B. Hall and Mr. Mackinnnun, and supported by Mr. aliaterman. Lord .1. RUSSELL considered it his duty to follow his hon. colleague, who had just spoken, especially as he had been threatened with sonic awful consequences if he ven tured to oppose the bill of the corporation. (Laughter.) Ile did not know what the hon. member for Station! consi dered his duty towards his constituents; but he (Lord J. Russell) considered it his duty towards his constituents to consider the intertate of the t, noted Kingdom at large ; and if those interests did not happen to coincide with those of the corporation of London he should unfortunately be com pelled to prefer the former. (Herr, hear.) The hon. member for Middlesex had said, and said justly, that this was , a question which idfsatell the :supply of meat to over two millions of persons. Of course that was the main inte rest; but beyond that there were a great many subordinate interests. (Hear, hear.) Now he (Lord J. Russell) should say he had out taken a hasty or precipitate view on this subject. When the coinsuittee appointed in that house reported against the continuance of smitlitield-market, he (Lord J. Itueseli) said the question was doubtful and de served further inquiry. The right hon. and learned Recorder had implied, although he did not state, that there was something unfair in the appointment of the commission nominated to investigate this matter. Ilia (Lord J. Rua nit.) object was to grant as fair a commission as goasible ; and with that view, and that the interests of the graziers might nut he injuriously atilicted, he applied to the Duke of Itichmoud to have him point out some hon. gentleman who would undertake the duty. lie need not say that the hon. member for Surnersenhire entered that eommiseion with an impartial determination. (Hear, hear.) The majority of that commission—five out of seven—the two dissentients being connected with the corporation— came to the conclusion that Smithfield-market ought to be removed altogether; and that was the question then before the house. (Ilear, hear.) The question , therefore, was not as regarded two competing bills; but whether the market should or should not be removed from its central to a suburban situation. (Hear, hear.) The commissioners reported that there were several sites eligible; but abstained from recommending any one in particular. Much as he I might regret his oppueition to the corporation of London, at least, on the present occasion, nu other choice was left him. (Hear, hear.) Mr. MOWArt, amid loud cries of "divide,' rose to express his opinion that nothing could justify the continu ance of a great cattle market in the centre of this densely populated metropolis. The question had not Mona been decided by public opinion, but also by every committee entrusted - with its investigation ; and even the advocates of the market that day were obliged to admit that its existence was a nuisance. Sir li. lIALF'ORD would only occupy one moment. He rose to state that he presented a petition that day from the graziers and farmers of Leicestershire, who were fa- vourable to an enlargement of the present market at Smith field, but opposed to its removal. (Divide, divide.) Alter sofae brief explanations between Mr. FITZROY and Sir J. 'War, which were inaudible in the gallery, owing to the vociferous calls for a division, The how divided — For the second reading 124 Against it '2l6-122 SMITHFIELD- . .MARKET REMOVAL BILL. Sir 0. GREY, on the motion for the second reading of this bill, proposed that in the event of its being read a soeunil time that it be referred to a select committee, com posed of live members, to be nominated by the committee of selection. Mr. HU3IE liked whether it was fair to refer this bill to a select committee, when the house had just rejected the other bill. Ile thought it would have been much fairer to have referred both bills to a committee up stairs. Mr. C. LEWIS said that the house having decided upon the question whether there should be a market held in the City or the suburbs, it would seem superfluous to refer the other bill to a select committee, Alderman SIDNEY thought the suggestion of the hon. member for Montrose a very fair one. Sir J. DUKE said, however much he might regret the decision to which the house heel just come, it was his inten tion to pay every respect to such decision, and not to give the house any further trouble in respect to it. (Hear.) At the same time, he deplored that the government had not allowed both bills to go before the committee, in order that their respective merits might be fairly determined. Sir G. GREY said that the bill before the house was one of a mixed character, like a certain class of bills well known to the house ; it was partly public and partly pri vate. They would follow, then, the usual course under such eircumstanece—namely, to refer the bill to a committee of standing orders. Mr. A. STAFFORD wished to ask a question of coml. derrhlc importuner. Whether they intended to recom- I mend that a portion of the n itional tends should be dedi cated to the purchase of this property from the corporation, with • view of preserving that unenclosed spare for the benefice( the public? If it were nut the intention of the government to take such a step, he should think it his duty to bring such a proposition forward, and to take the 64:11W of the house noon it. (11. ar.) Mr. T. DUNCOM rtE wished to hare it clearly ascer tained whether this hill henceforward was to be colisider.il a private or a public hill. Was this bill to go to the select committee above stairs so a private bill, and to come back as a public bill, to be considered by a commit tee of the whole house ? That was a very important question. (Hear, hear.) He also wished to know who the commis sioners were to be that were to have the conduct of this market, for they might abuse the patronage which they would possess as much as the City had done. Sir G. GREY repeated the answer he hail already given to the hon. alderman. The bill was of a mixed character — partly public and partly private. Of course, under the cir cumstances, the invariable practice was to refer it to a se lect committee ; but that conunittee was not always named by the committee of selection. Then when it came back to a committee of the whole house—and not until then—it would become a public bill. Ydr. A. STAFFORD reminded the right hon. baronet that he had asked him a question respecting the purchase of the space o. ground occupied by Smithfield-market from the corporation ? Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that the government did not intend to diseuss that matter. The SPEAKER said all bills which were partly public and partly private went through the same forms as private bills, until after the select committee hail reported on them. , When they were recommitted to a committee of the whole house they were then and afterwards treated as public bills. The house would see at once the object or such a rule be cause inasmuch as these bills affected local interests it was necessary that notice should be given to all parties con cerned in order that they might know what they hail to expect, and, if necessary, he enabled to take steps for having their several claims heard before the select committee in defence of their own interests. Mr. HUME said he understood that; but there was no schedule of tolls attached to this bill. The SPEAKER said the schedule must be fixed by the committee on the bill. When they were filed the parties concerned might petition. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE asked whether the owners of Smithfield-market could he heard against thisbill ? The SPEAKER—They will of course petition against the bill when it is referred to a select committee. Sir W. JOLLIFFE would feel obliged at being informed whether, under the circumstances in which the hill stood, the committee would have the power of deciding upon a site without reference to any notice which, in respect to other private bills, it was necessary to give. The SPEAKER said that nothing could be done beyond what was comprehended in the notice originally given. Ile could not answer the hon. baronet's question more fully without knowing the extent to which the notice went. Whatever clauses might be proposed in committee they must he such as came within the terms of the notice given. Sir W. JOLLIFFE now asked whether thc proper notice had been given? The supply in the market must be for 2,:ag1,000 persons. Were these notices given to meet sill tin• requisites of a cattle market which was intended not only to supply the immense population in the metropolis, but also of innumerable towns within 100 miles of it ? Sir G. GREY said that notices were required in order to take laud by compulsion ; hut no such notices were required to take land when it was to be done by vo luntary agreement. Mr. DEEDES said that he was an advocate for leering the wh o p , saliva considered together. Although he rc gr•tted exceedingly the course which had been taken, he did not feel himself at liberty to vote against the second reading of this bill. In answer to Mr. lIENLEs, Sir G. GREY said, until The house hail decided whether Satithfield-market was to be removed from its present site, the government were not authorised to enter into any negotiation for the voluntary purchase of a site for the market. The hon. member might recollect that in the report several sites were mistimed as being eligible for the puroose. :kir. BAILED: said, if he understood the noble lord right, he said it was not the intention of the government to give compensation to the corporation for the great loss they would sustain by the removal of Smithtiehl-market. Ile trusted that the government would take the matter into their se rious consideration. Lord J. RUSSELL said that t h e answer which he gave was in reference to a very different question. lie understood the hon. member for Northamptonshire (Mr. A. Stailurd) to say that a great injury would be done to the public if the open space was taken from them, and he asked whether the government would not take rare, by this purchase of that ground, to keep it open ? Ile (Lord J. Itusvell) said that government had no intention of purchasing it. As to wile. thee the corporation ought to he compensated for the leas they would sustain by the removal of Smithfield-market, that was a totally different question. Captain IlAitltlS said it was important to consider wile , thee it would lie necessary to have two markets. It ap- I reared to him that by the establishment of only one market in the suburbs they would be exposed to a great evil ; for it would be necessary to have a great quantity of cattle passing through the metropolis. Ile did not see why they should nut encourage competition by establishing two mar kets at least, and thereby escape the unpleasant consequences that were apprehended. Mr. D! OSBORNE said that the only question upon which the witnesses fully agreed was the necessity of having only one central market. Mr. S. WORT LEY entcreat his protest against the prin ciple of this bill. Mr. HUDSON apprehended that the house had placed themselves in this position. They had hound themselves to pass a bill for the re 'al of Smithfield-market, and they were dependent upon the will of private individuals for ob taining a n.,ar bite. As it was very probable that the evil they complained of could not be remedied until another session, it appeLved to him that it would be better to suspend all further proceedings for the present year. The house di, idea, when there appeared— For the second reading - 230 Against it On the question that the bill bo referred to a select com mittee Mr. ACME said he must again protest against the pro posed interterenee with corporate rights. His own opinion was that the present attempt would prove a failure. The House of Commons was asked to pass a bill which could not be carried out without commissioners, and, of course, the persons appointed to till the office would he favourites of the government. Why nut abolish the charter of the City if the corporation were incapable of mauaging its affairs ? Lord J. RUSSELL thought the corporatim of the City of London would not feel much obliged to his hon. friend for suggesting that their charter should be abolished. (Laughter.) Mr. ILUME hoped he would not he misunderstood. What lie meant was, that rather than deprive the corpora tion of the power of maintaining their own markets, they should take away the charter. (Laughter.) Lord J. RUSSELL said there were two points which his hon. friend seemed entirely to have lost sight of. One was. that since the City of London WAS covered with buildings, the metropolis had very much increased in size, and that it now extended far beyond the city walls. The question was, not whether Smithfield was sufficient for the City of Lon don, but whether it was a proper market for this great me- I tripoli,. The other point which his hon. friend had fur gotten was, that as soon as the government CAW to the coo -1 elusion that it was desirable to remove Smithfield market out of the heart of the metropolis, the corporation itself offered to undertake the removal, and it was not till they subsequently refused to do so that the matter was taken up by the government. Some hon. gentlemen seemed to think that the matter was one iu which the government had great interest; but he could Ware the house that it was only on pubic grounds that the goveruinent had determined to deal with it. Sir 11. WILLOUGHBY considered the provisions of the hill a direct confiscation of the property of the cor poration. In reply to a question from Mr. S. WOUTLEY, The SPEAKER stated that the bill being a private one, the corporation would have the power of appearing by counsel. Sir It. INGLIS observed that steps should be token to secure the rights of the lord of the manor. Mr. CHRISTOPHER would he very glad if the corpo ration of London would even now undertake to provide a new market in a suburban district; and in that case he for one would have no hesitation in guaranteeing to them their tolls and privileges. The present plan of the corpus ration added only about 21 acres to the existing area. Sir J. DUKE could not allow the hon. member's con cluding assertion to go uncontradieted. Under the plan of the corporation, the whole area, without any road or foot path, would be upwards of 12 acres. The corporation did not object to the establishment of an additional market. What they did object to was the shutting up of the ancient market. Mr. A. STAFFORD predicted that the bill would b thrown out in another place, as a violation of an ancient charter and of the rights of property, and that the only result would be the continuance of the present nuisance and overcrowding fur another year. Mr. Alderman SIDNEY inquired of the Home Secre tary whether he would consent that the bill should he a public one? Sir G. GREY said the question whether the bill should he a public or a private one did not depend on the will of the government, hut on lined regulations of the house; and the only effect of making the hill public would be to deprive the corporation of the right of appearing by counsel. The motion for referring the bill to a select committee was then agreed to. ST. ALBANS ELECTION. _ _ Mr. E. El.Ll6E,;;;.,siiid he had aCCnclirected by the select committee on this petition to apply to the house fur leave to adjourn till 12 o clock on M lay next for the pur pose of Affording time for the attendance of certain wit nesses whose evidence was sworn to be material. Leave was granted. RELIGIOUS HOUSES BILL. - - Mr. LACY having asked for the postponement of the order of the day for the second reading of this bill until Wednesday the 30th of April, Alter some conversation, The second reading was fixed for the 14th of May. The Eapenseu of Prosecutioas Bill, as amended, was con sidered, and a clause added. On the motion of Mr. C. Lew•io, the Annual Indemnity Bill was brought in and read a first time. The house adjourned at six o'clock. 1111%11 An MCI:LTV It 11, Di.TIMS4.--00101101 Chattertoll paired off in favour of Sir W. Barron's motion for in quiriiirr into the state of Ireland, with Sir 11. Hall against. Mr. Calihell paired with Mr. Ilisir against. Lord 11. Lennox, with Mr. C. W. Greniell against. Mr. Knox, who Intrinh.,l to vote fur the nsutiun, was aCtidelltany shut out from the division. L. I • iieyuelirdan;ii They said it win the contrary -1 spore propu.ed liargement Ira• his usidence I that the Mk be tit d up via year the publii and au the 164 won ao fewer t PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. HOUSE OF COMMONS. SMITHFIELD ENLARGEMENT DILL. 08Pali for Second Rooting read; motion made, sal question pro. pored, " That the bid b now Mid a wood time :"—Ametulment proposed, to Have out the word tt now," and at the end of the question to add the words " upon thin day viz months .."—Questirin put, "That the word "now" SLOW pint of the queuing." The horse divided: Ayes, 121; Noe% 246. AYES. Arkerriaht, Gawp Tweeter, lion. G. C. Mater, David Baird, James For, Richard M. Mullitigt, Jisepb R. &wises, tamers Yrimen, Charles It. Keep or, V "wool ' Barnard, Edward G. Gailwey, sir W. P. Km. ,It 38. Gerard J. Barrow. Wi dam H. Girona. Hon. P. N. O'Brien, sir Lucius Bereeford, William Gilpin, Colonel o'Si:deity, Anthony Blackatons, W. S. Owes, E iward S. o.borne. Ralph Blair, 8 epden Goold, Wyndham recite, Charles W. Kiel., Maims J. Milord, Sir limey l'altio r, Robert Blaadtwd, Marquis Of Homy, TBO7BBB P. Pealed, Sir George B. Bolder°, Henry 0. Hamilton. , cargo A. Reid Colonel Booker, Thomas W. Ramie, Alexander Bent., John C. Bramaton,ThoinasW. Henley, Joseph W. heynules.3• , his It oesdeisund, Jobe Hervey, Lora Alfred Rice. Edward huher, Sir John V. Iliklyard. Thos. B.T. Richard., Kiehard 'limbo'''. William U. !Imlay, Charles Itutihut, Capt. Iturgsley, Lord Horigty, Jo ho fedi.. lion. Francis MUlTOilitite, It. N. Ihniwah George Ses nod, Henry K. Chaplin, William J. Huge, Joseph Ildney, Mr. Alderman I Ciatterton. Colon - I Ilutupnerv, Mr. Aid. Swot:ea, Alexan -er Cobbold, John C. Inglis, Sir K. IL Matted. Anatole. G cgs, Harman S. Jernisn, tar 4 Stanley, Edward Coles, Henry B. Johnstoae, Sir John Stanley, lion. E. H. t °petard, Mr. Aid. iodide. Sir W. G. 11. Stepartoon, Robert Cutatt, William June., Captain Thornhill, George Currie. Henry King, lion. P. J. L. Tyre, tie George Davies, Deed A. S. Knightley. Sir C. Vtoey, lion. Thomas I),de,, William Koos, Colowl Vyse, K. IL R. IL ILlEsmourt,ilde.C.T. Lacy, Henry C. We diogton, David 11.1•CAll, Viscount Lennox, LadA. G. Waddington, 11. go Dune ,mbe, i boron, Lennon, Lord 11. G. Wairley, Thomas DormuoMe, Hon. A. Locae, Josepn war, t pules It. Done .nitao, Hun. 0. Lockhart. Allan E. Wariteley, Sir J. Hondo*, George U. khan, William Wilbante, John Daurip, 1:01wwl Lygon, Hon. lien. Williams, Wiliam Dupre, C. Gouge Mackenzie, W. F. Willogt.by, Sir 11. Eiwards, heat,' M ic hay, John Wurtie! . , lit. tin. J. Evans, Mr Ile Lacy Mminigthen, Sir F. Wynn, U. W. W. EraltP, John APOrego - , John Er, lyn, Wiliam J. Hagan, W. 11. TWI.I.V.RS. Farnham, Edward B. Maher, Nicholas V. Duke, sir James 1 ilni.r, tie tahnund Hammed, Thettnas P. Atiestroman, John km hot, William Your, Su Usury - -- -- . NOES. Acland, file T. D. Ployer, John Komar, Sir D.J. Arior, Hugh E. Foley. John 11. 11. 0' Veleta, J. Arbor, K. A. S. Fordyce, Alexander O'Connell, John Azatarby, Henry A. Forster, Matthew O'Gtim 11, Ilorpn J. Artery, 'Dorm. C. Fortescae, cbicheoter Ogle, S. C. H. Annatrung, Sr A. Furtmcoe, lin. J. W. Ord, .A Rhona Arundel and Surrey, Fox, Wm.J. lhoulstur, Lord Earl of Envious. CoL 0-wold, Ale* osier Ashley, lord Pull, r, Augustus E. Owen, Mr John is,ii. , %1 Llisna (i.yo. (Aurae C. Nutt, lord A. Kagalmw, J, lan Goddard, A. 1.. P.a. Lord C. book y, li. J. Grotto., teary ibilitootnn, Sir John Faints, tit. Ilan. M. Gmeire, Jolt., Pallirr, John Baldock, E. U. Greene, Thomas Perlect, Robert Baring. Kt. Ito Sir P. Litre ell, I. roam Prot, Samuel M. Mann Jun Viscount Greek 11, Char ks W. Pilatrigtun, Jones Wks% Michael T. lacy, Rt. lin. Sr G. Plum. Ire, Job. P. Hell, Jacob Grey, Italph W. Pon onby. 11.. C. P. 0n dew, Richard M. (irmmenor, Lori K. Porno. Melville itenb,w, John Uutot, SirJ on Power, Dr. Berkelm, _Admiral Gwt 0, Bowel rm...., sir Robert Berke'. y, lion. 11. F. Hall, Sr Beniamin Pukh, Hoot I ilerltelty, C. L. G. Hely borton, Lo. J.P. Waterloo, Colonel ow: nal, Italph bloomer, sr John Km rid, timnan Birch, Mr Thomas Ilan:our, George G. Kick. Henry bowies, Adinirsl liardcotle, Jo. ph A. It milly, Colonel Rolle, lion. too !Limit, lIKL Coy. kband.y, Sr Joan Ihiaco, at ustrave lialf,i., K chord Rowell, Lord John brockinan, Miward D. Itatcheli, lit. lion. J. Kuswll, lin. Edw. S. Brother um. Joseph Harem, Berlerion Soak", Colonel Brown, William II i)ter, Itt. IIn.W.G. Sairorra Creurge Bruce, C. L. C. Ileail, Jaunts Soutar., JO6/1.6 Buck, Lewm W. Ileathemat, John Kam or, henry D. Bumbury, Edward U. Henry, Meaander Sm floor, taint Burr It, sir C. H. Ilerhere Rt. lin, S. Mellor, Robert D. CobbeO, benamin B. Ileyirmid, Jones Sitstiorp, Colonel Campbell, lion. W. F. Ileyworib, LAWTellee hiromon, John Corimal, Etta ard Higgins, lieorgeti. O. Smith Juno A. (keen, WI ham U. P. liiklyant. Robert C, Smith, John U. Cater, John U. Dill, Lord Edwin Smyth, J. O. Caulfield, James M. Dill, Lord Margo', mouvrox, Captain Cavendi.h, lion. C. C. liobaoto, ,'hotness B. Surnerelic„lin. W.ll. 1 Curerulish, lion. G.H. Haltom, Wino. N. Spearman, Henry J. Charlene, lion. F. Iloilo., Robert Stontorl, Joan E. Childers, John W. Hope, limo y Thomas Stant, y, 11.. W. O. Clay, James Hope, Alexander Stamm., William U. Clay, Sir Wiliam llorsman, Edward Salvia:and, Sr G. Clerk, itt. llon.Sir G. Howard, 110. F.G.G. Moan, lord James CM .rd, IL ney M. Howard, Phuip U. Ma at, Henry Clive, I lent yB. I luttinna„ L'aiwanl J. Stuart, John Ccebrow, Ales. Hutt, Wiliam Sutton, John li. M. Cockburn, Sir A. J. Fa Jocelyn, Vain nt Toured, Henry W. Coke, lion. Film'. K. Kershaw. Lanes 'fetus .0, ralward K. CJlelirooke, Sir T. E. Kowa, lion w. S. Thickiresav, Ralph A. Colvib, t'oaries It. La muchere. Ilan. 11. Thouip,on, colonel Compton, Henry C. Langatax,l imes 11. not Rely, Thomas Corbalty, o. Y. lA.. live. lin. W. s. Tollemoke. John Cowan, Charles !Amino, Clan. C. Townerey, John Cowper, lion. W. P. Le. la, Georg , C. Townsbmiti, Capt. Cr..tg, sir 1% illiam U. Lsnriard, 'lturairma B. Trail', Leorde Doh) mole, CepL Lewis, 1iC0.61: C. Trevor, lion. G. R. Vanier, 11., Colonel Lung, Wolter Tufnelt, ID. lion. H. Daw , un, Hon. T. V. lom. Sir Ralph Verna, Sir W. Denison, John E. Mackinnon, 5%. A. Verney, Sr harry rock, Lliontin M•Nrall. Duncan Vivian, Jobe IL. Divert, lea ward 111 . 1.org0rt, sir J. Waltare, s. U. Douglas, -ir C. E. Mahon, Virount Walter, Jutii, Dellilltirlid, ilenry Mandeville, Ai-count V. -wn, John T. torieronoral, 11. IL bizitellaill. J.itel. BH. Wedo.Prowmr, P. R. Duckwortb. sirJ.T.B. Mati-mon, Sir Jones ta CM., GiLnlic E. I Mikan. Lselorie Matheson, tbdooel Whirorn, Lit. T. Duauit, litho klaute, It'. Hon. I.z Waco., B. Mill. Dun las,lti.flon.sirD. Mewl., VI.CJUIIi W 116.41, James Ellice, Kt. Hun E. Miles, wdi flu Wow., Mathew Lime, Edward id aoell, A% 0 rim Woriehoure, Edmund Ellis, 'oho Moody, Ch •rl, i A. W. aid, itt. I 1 0 0 si.e t'. Eliot. Hon. J. E. kilns., Sir It dn. Wood, Nkm P. /mayo. Vineuttut Miestyli, lion. Y..11.L. K yvill, Monnaduke Es ass, William Mowol, Frani M Yorke, lion. E. T. Ewert, Or Sham Mulgrave, tArl of Leßow" Miward Mundy, Vt idiom Tit lees. V. guo,n, Col. nel Nem, 1.0. d Chrietopher, It. A. Fitzpatrick, J. W. liaoler, J ,l ph Fitzroy, 'loo. U. ' itswalliona. lion. G. Honeys, Lund SMITHFIELD MARKET REMOVAL BILL. Oanien for Second needing wan; motion mode, ono question put,— •' "I'Mn tile bill be now tried u ercooti lust." I•uc divined A 3 es, 130; Noe, LS. AYES, Arland, Sir T. D. Eldot,ll.l. J. E. Moody, Charles A. Adair, Ilindi E. Ewan; Wi.ll an Mori-on, Sir William Adair, H. A. S. Ewa; Willem Sleety; lion. &Seal. Ael 1).,, henry A. lel-owes, MAIIIII MoWa . I, Erancis Anstey, Thomas C. loamy, 1100. U. Mulgrae, ' , Ant of Artnathoott, lion U. litsentlion., Ilii.(l.W. Moody, h'iloani .irtmet elm, Sir A. Eloy. r, ...lan More, Colonel Mond.) and Surrey, Foley. John 11. U. Napier, Joseph Girl 01 lordye, A. I). Ndro eye., Lord Aehlry, Lord Yonder, SI .tthew Maimed, Morgan". Barge, Witham lux, William J. Oasulston, Lord Haute, 11. J. Vreestun, . olor el Ilawal", AN/sander hamar It.. Un. M. T. lake, Ameistus E. Pale, Charles W. 11.1.1tek, Edward U. Gilpin, Codowl Patine.); Sir John Baring, Ht. Ho sdr V. 01 - .0. tdorgee. Parker, John Minion., Edward G. Goddard, A. I. Perfect. Hubert Ilarriniton, Viscount Gordon, Admiral Yet,, Samuel M. Boa, Michael T. GrecoaL told:rt. Pidangton, JAMe• Bell, Jacob Greene, Johu Pluumtre, John P. no lew, Hiclard M. Giame, llama Para., Me.mtlo 13.rkeley, Hun. H. 1 1 . EircitklL C. Pascoe Power, Dr. It •rkeley, C. I. Al. Grey, sir George. Pr ic ‘. Mr It ibert Bernal, Ralph litsie, Sir John l'ugh, David Hach, :or I. d. Ilah, Sir Ilehismin Hamm; Culoael Mar. Mamba' Halt, tat. Hicado, eidnan nismlturd, Maiquisof Ilalh burl" Lord". ILth, Henry Bark,. I hams W. Resumer, Mr John Itobirte•, T. J. A. Busk; Admiral Ilartlcastle, Joseph Itomilly, Gionel Byte, lion. Col. /lonic II n. ('apt. Handily, Sir John Memnon, T. W. Harts, Hachard Ituahou; Captain Brim; Mu-gram Hose., iminaran Itursell. Lail John Workman, E. D. HetLia, Janes ItuvEL hum B S. brae:writ..., Joseph Uraticote, John It.. all, V. C. 11. more, C. L. C. Ile. ry, Alexander &awry, Colonel Nunnery, Edward U. Italia; Kt. Hon. S. Sanders, George Harrell, sir C. M Imy w. al, hones 11 viol . , bleary K. isurrougha, U. N. Wreath, Larream Seymour, Henry D. Calmed, Ile..jaann B. !begins, D. G. O. Seymour, Lord Cam,.bi IL flu. W. V. Ilildyard, 3. C. Waal, Hobert A. Cardwell, Edward 11111, Lord Edwin dent; John A. Carew, W. 11. P. 11111. L.rd Marcus • !Muth, John H. Caner, John H. IlltrVey, eta les Smyth, John U. Cavendish, Iln. C. C. 110bhniase, I hums, B. Sonierso, Captain emends.; 11n. U. IL 11014.0 n., A iiliam N. Somerville, sir W. M. en o: rter y.,..... a, lion. V. llollaid, Hoorn Sahel ton, T. U.S. ehrictooher, IL A. Mope. Aleldid.r Spearman, Ilenry J. II ,sad, lin. E.G. G. Mama; John V. Cloy, sir William Howard, Philip U. 8 ardey, Hon. E. If. Clerk, It . lion. Sir G. nacho, Gilead J. Staley, hon. W.D. Cone. Usury B. Hutt, Wiliam Stanton, W.ll. Cactaburm Sir A. J. E. Jet nip.. Earl Sada:mil, bin G. Cock., Menus S. L aGuchere, 1103.11. Stuart, Lord J. Luka, lion. E. K. Lay, henry C. Stuart' Henry Colebrook; Sir T. E. Lampoon, Janes 11. Tattered, henry W. Colecle, Ch rtes H. Lac too, Hon. W. 4 . Tenon, Edward K. Cochatly, M. lo Lawers. lion. Cad Thu:incase, ltalph A. C ,wan, Limns Leg; George C. Thompson, Chtmet Draper, lion. W. F. Leonard, Thomas E. Thonaly, Thomas Craig, Mr W. G. Lennon. Lord A. G. TuLemache, John I) di }mph., captain Lewis, Cairo C. Tome". Kt. Um; U. I rimer, Hun. Cul. Lindsay, Uon. Col. Tyler, Sir Gangs Davie., timid A. S. Lockhart, Allan E. 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Mullis's, Joseph IL Home, tuarph Moore, GOMIS H. Mary, Alderman TIDE PACIFIC.—The American steam ship Pacific, Captain Nye, sailed from Liverpool on Wednesday, direct for New York. She carried out but a small mail, about twenty passengers, and a light cargo of good.. The next outward ateum-.hip for New York is the Aria, which will leave Liverpool on Saturday neat. OFFICIAL EXIIIIIITION CATAI.OOIUES. AmEitniv.mEsTs.ifl drat inue to bo reminnl foe imertieS in the Official Catalogue. durivg the whole time ties Exhibition re. mama open; but a. the Contr.gtern are bound to [lay • penaity t.l £2O • day if they ,In net I:cliver the fleet edition to the I:oy.ltiomminion by Ike 29,1, of April, three Adrerti.entente intended !or the Mg eye series of 2.; 0 tart of the amab tUtuietue, and for the tir.t edition@ ot the tiler rated and Yr. nett atul German Vat.itizues atiu•t be sent I to the Contractors by the I hof Anti. SPICER PAO ritrats, Wholemientati.nerr, j Joint Contractors tothe W. CIDWEs AND 09NS, thinter., j 1:1Ta!0. - nmietioa. Official cola sue 4 411. e. 29, en, Bridgeadeeet. lifackfriarr. DARING ROBBERY .t , um OLO GENTLEMAN N iMED " BULL." Are puNt9i, No. N 9, kr April 12. Mob, SS, flett.etreet ; and bold by bill Book elks imd Newsom. the enartos. TO CORRESPONDENTS. davrtipenirnt.lettnutect WI "The Kaprees,"l.oll4oll MI; mutt be ut the (Mice, le, beiseerle.street, by 'few "'clock on day ef pubikation. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. Tess Dav—iforning, .Afternuon, hh. Tbasilaarir—lterinag. f 21a. .An. touun, 6a. LONDON, THURSDAY, APRIL 10. WE have often had occasion to repeat of late that the best of principles require to be carefully deve loped, wisely worked, and not left to their own force of truth as all-sudicient for their triumph. Maxims and principles, to endure, must suctwed, must show themselves of practical benefit us well as of theo retic force ; nor should any amount of popularity and assent render us too confident of a principle un less it be productive of the general welfare, and compel general assent. We said this of toleration, and expressed fears that, if carried to extremes, it might be damaged by. untoward and unexpected results. We may say this of free trade itself, which might be riddL too hard, and overworked. And we will say it of direst taxation, likewise,--another most ex cellent and progressive principle, but which never theless requires wise and wary manipulation. We are now laying—or we ought to be laying.— the foundations of it ; and if we do not succeed in ' making them equable,solid, and just. the more weight the legislature may afterwards place upon them, the more surely will the edifice crumble. To build direct taxation upon the schedules, which had been driven hastily, like piles, into the bed of the national wealth,—one of them into its solid earth, another into its moving sand, while a third r.sts, blunted, midway, and can be driven no farther - upon these can be built nothing that is not temporary, unwork manlike. and unsatisfactory to all. But what tells even more agaia..t the income tax than its inequality, is the smallness of the sum it produces, compared with the pain and distress that it causes. There is the tobacco duty, which produces u much, and who feels it ? The income tux is in finitely more sound in principle, and more just in its imposition, yet who would double the income tax to repeal the duty on tolauxo? If we are to render direct taxation successful, we must render it produc tive, and we must render it productive without ren dering it more onerous. 'fhis is to be dorm by condescending to imitate and adopt the great quality of indirect taxation, universality, de priving it at the same time of that great defect of in direct taxation, its falling on the very lowest elausof consumers exclusively and unjustly. This is only to be effected by graduation, and by including all short of the unskilled labarer. We can see no justice in exempting men of from 75/. to INV. a year first from t h e income tax and then from the house tax. Let the former he made more strictly a property tax, and except those who have HO property. That we can understand. Butt, at least, do not give the double exemption, for by spiking towed' the largest and most prosperous classes in the country is put out of the law in respect of taxation. They viii nut consume so much malt, and spirits, and tohatwo as the la bourer. They escape a great proportion of indirect taxation, and we are legislating to exempt them from all direct taxation. And yet what hard ship to these prosperous artisans, or respect able earners, to pay some fourpoice in the pound on a rent of 1.3/. or Iste ? It is, in fact, nothing to them, whilst it is everything to the state. The occupiers of houses paying let to 201. a year out in county towns are, we maintain, as well able to pay this per-et:Wage on that rent as any class in the kingdom. And if it lw electioneering reasons that cause them to be leniently treated by the Cues • CELimit. such masons ought to be scouted by the House of Commons. Then. why should houses containing shops be less rated than similar houses inhabited by professional men ? The reason, no doubt, with the Cersstestuma was, that shops were exempted under the window tax, and justly so; for windows are the very essence of a shop, and to pay for the liberty of displaying its wares was unjust. But in a general tax on the rent of houses we do not see why premises to make money in should be especially exempt, and premises solely to spend money in over taxed. Vs e repeat it, we can find no principle in this, save the only principle of the CitINCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, expediency and conciliation. Whether the principle of graduation ought to ho applied to a tax on income may be questioned. But of this we are certain, that graduation ought to be observed in every tax upon expenditure. 1k a man ever so rich, he may employ his whole income for industrious, reproductive, and economical purposes; but in cases of large expenditure, such as a large house is taken to indicate, the great pro portion must go in luxuries--luxuries, at least, to the occupier. And this was so matailest to our legisla tors that, without reasoning the matter, and by the mere instinct of good sense and fairness, they did graduate such taxes. The old house tax was a graduated tax. Dear houses paid more in proportion than cheap ones. The window tax, we all know, was a graduated tax, or at least was intended to be so. The rate rose with the number of windows. But here, forsooth, we repudiate such old notions of fairness, or of differenee between rich and poor. The class up to a certain rent we exone rate indeed altogether. But the struggling middle chess of from 200/. to -1001. is overwhelm wd with every tax. Those above them pay no more ; those below pay nothing. Wo are ready to admit the dangers of graduated taxation, in extravagant or unfair hands, or laid out by the rules of geometry or proportion. But such danger is visionary, and is certainly far less great, than to create sensible discontent in than middle and in dustrious class, possessors of intelligence and already wielding political power. If all houses of above No/. a year were to pay one shilling in the pound ; and houses from 10/. to 20!. fourpenee, the house tax would form an important part of the direct taxa tion of the country, and, we verily believe, would un that account, be less liable to be raised in any ease of sudden emergency. It forms with the rest of the assessed taxes, the expenditure-duty of the country. The indircyt taxes are another expenditure-duty, and they, we know, are graduated by their very na ture, so as to fall heaviest on the low, and lightest on the high. The house tax being a direct expenditure tax ought to make some compen sation. But it ought also to aim at being as universal and productive as fairness will admit. For if direct taxes prove unproductive and nugatory in proportion to their burdens, we may depend upon it that the iniquities of indirect taxation will be main tained. ARCIIDE WON MANNINO, a near connexion of the MrttAnitteoney.s, and lung a leader of the tractalian party, has at last followed the example of so many of his friends and entered the Itoinish church. With him, too, has gone over Mr. JAMES HOPE. a learned, accomplished, and very deservedly-popular Queen S Counsel. It would, of course, be 'affectation to treat as trivial or unimportant the loss of such a man as Mr. IforE. Yet, rightly considered, his perversion, as that of the acceding tructarians generally, is to be regarded as an illustration favourable to, rather than adverse to, protestantism. For it is another proof, if one were wanting, that if what the tracta rians call catholicity be indispensable to the true Christian chant', the most logical, the most learned, and the most candid of the party have all ended their search for it in the church of England by not finding it there. And, in fact, the only church where such attributes as are included in that teen can be discovered is that great eceksiustieal organisa tbm which pretends to be the sole witness on earth of divine truth, and which bases, on such pretensions , prerogatives over the minds and consciences, and I conduct of men, such as are incompatible with free-