The Express. — London, England, 1848-08-30 00:00:00

1 .mwm.1.1 , 1 1. I'LRIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TunDAT, AUG. 29. The LOYD C iNcittLog tookUS INESS his seat at 6 o'clock. PUBLIC B. SECOND READINGS.—Poor law Auditors Proceedings Restric tion ; Ontroverted Elections; Mulder of Landed Property (Ire. land); Fever (Ireland); Nuisances and Contagious Diseases; Dublin ponce; Common` Incloraire Act Amendment ; Bibs. COMAIIITE.Sbouritur Parr (Ireland); Boger Dulles; Sheep and arse Importation Prohibition; Sheep and I.Xttis coataeaut Dimmers Peereatb. ; Bills. 1111 RD RE WING°. —Moro n Coromissienersof Sewers; Re. prOditocire Loan Mond Institution (Ireland); Pent Law Auditors Pro eeedinge Restriction; Bills. NUISANCES AND CONTAGIOUS DISEASES BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the second read ing of this bill, and bristly explained its objects, which were twora:rl,—relating fl-'t to the removal of nuissucts ; and escondly to the prevention of the spread of any contagious disorder. Power was given to any two inhabitant house• holders, to go before certain puhlic ."oilies named in the bill, snd make complaint of the existrrnce of nuisances. The bill also gave b•fards of health and other public bodies the power to adot an measures which might upon en emerncy ap pear ne p cessar y , y,in the event of any cot e disease ge making ate apvarance. The bill weft then read a second time. METROPOLITAN TURNPIKES BILL. A cold:seine was uppointed to consider the alterations in this bill. After a sort absence the members o the conference re- turned and r e ported the result to the hou f se. The house then, at a quarter to seven, adjourned till a quarter past four to-m a rrow (this day). HOUSE OF Ol)MMONS.—Tuesniy, Avo. 29. The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock. PUBLIC ISUSIN See% PETITIONS.—Ity Mr. MILNE:4, from a place not heard, for the establisament of county asylums for juvenile 4,lfolders.—sir 11. W IL- Aeso- LOUOIIIII, from IL Martin, ,ecretery to the laffichm Provident elation, against the S.lviaigs who Bill.— Col. TIIUMPSOS, from John Snook, tiltrotor of a life-bcnt, complaining of the neglect of his Mien don by the Sir IL NORBEYS, from the grand jury of Moscumfoon, against the Irish Poor Law. itEnuimi.—Poor Law Auditors Proceedings Itrutlietion COMMlTTEEB.—Cormadidated Foal ; Excliequer BBL; West India °Monies and Mau9Mitts; Savings Banks; Bills. REPORTS.—net-horsca Licences, he.; Lock-up Mouses ; Ililts.ws. THIRD REA DINDS. —Bay Mileary ; Postage on Ne pipers (Channel Islands); Diplomatic Bei:dime. with the Court of Rome; Taxing Marten, Court of Chancery (Ireland); BMA. REEL! rCNS OltDhltED. - Oa the motion of Mr. WODEIIOBSE to reprint the mimeos of evidence taken before the committee of the Privy Geincil fur eiin at the Beard of Trude, on tLe 10th and 28th , days of April, 1828, and ordered to be printed on the 12:11 day of February, 1830. That there be added, be way of appendix to the papers above mentioned, theme swers given by the of thn e pent Bank go- ivernor of the Bank, by Mr. on, the govern, e 1814 ; and abo, by Mr. llorsley Palmer, a Bank director, to the que.- tions referred win the I Ith re ;ion of the repent of the committee of the House of Lords on commercial distress,' 1317 (Section or Limitation of the Amount of Silver by the Act of 1844.") The report of the Lords Commlaionera of his Majesty's Treasury, on the awe et the gold and vile, r coin, from Sir boar Newton, Master or the Mint, dates! Mint Office, the 21 t day of September, 1711 ; Copy ol any minute or entry that may appear on the oruer hooka of the 'revi sory, between the date of the reeolution of the Bowe of Commons of the lob day of October, 1528, and the final paring of the Itecoinage Act in 1609, mixing athe rate at which the collectors and receivers of taxes were authorised to take money at a different value from the standard; Copy of the order of the Stb day of February, 1700-1, re specting the rabie at which the bunk d'Or and Spanish pistol.. were to be received as part of tho current coin of the realm.— Mr. ). WILLIAMS, return of the number of seizures of silks, lace, and shawls, made at the Customhouse of London, from the Ist day of January, 1819, to the 25th day of August, 1818, on the plea of undervaluation of entry; Mating the kind of goads seized, the amount of entry, valuation of such seizures, the amount paid by the Custom-house to the importers of the goods, the amsunt r of proceeds of the pales of such goads ; suiting the numbe of lota into which they were divided for rale, the several days oa which they were put up fur role, and whether mld or bought in or postponed, is each ca re, and the expenses incurred on such sale., arid a balance of account, to show the benefit or loss to the CUStoin-bouee dep.unent, and tins amount paid m each OW to the seizing officer.—Mr. 111:11E, conics of all correspondence on the proposed establishment, extension. or improvement of Small Debt Courts, Within the towns of Cileutta, Madras, and Bombay, which . has taken place between the judges of her Maj“ty'a courts of )udica ture in India, the Law commiasiouers for India, the Governor-timeral Indus, , the governors of Bengal, Madras, and Bombay, and the booourable the court of directors of the Fist Isdu Cunipany, during ream TAXLNC. MAS (IRETER' COURT OF CHANCERY LAND) BILL. Title bin having been read a third Mr. HENLEY moved an amendment, limiting the ap poinunent of the tune additional taxing masters to three years. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the additional mas•ers were absolutely nee, sary to prevent the arrears iti the taxing masters' office. He coulu nut say whether such arrears might be avoided by iewer than three taxing masters at a tu ure period, but certainly less than that number would not be able to ktep pace with the busnese for a considerable time to come. - - The amendment was put and negatived, and the bill then passed DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH THE COURT OF ROME BILL. On the motion for reading th • bill a third time, Mr. NAPIER said he telt it to be his duty to meet this stage of the bill with his m. at decided opposition. It was unnecessary, as far as commercial relations with Italy were concerted. Its object was to facilitate a policy which he feared would undermine the working and protestant character of the constitution, and which conflicted with those re ligious and constitutional principles, which were established at the reformation. He looked Oa the measure as danger ous, for though it did not go directly to increase the power of the pope, indirectly it would tend to facilitate the papal power in this country. Intercourse with the po as a temporal power , wa s not re q uired ; in tercoupe, rse with the pope, as a spiritual power, was unlawful. He beamed to move as an amendment that " the bill be read a third time upon this day three menthe." Mr. ANSTEY seconded the amendment. Mr. M. MILNES said that the bon. and learned member opposite had founded his objevion to the bill principally on the ground of its introducing and sanctioning the introduc tion into the recognised forms of the conetitutiou of a Roman catholic hieratchy. The state of the law on the subject of the crown holding intercourse with the Pope was, to say the least, doubtful, and the government could not therefore be censured for taking steps to prevent any possible devia tion from the law on the part et the sovereign by bringing in the present measure. As the case now stood the papal territory was ignored by the law, and surely in times lice these no minister could be blamed who got rid of this absurd anomaly. lie should give his cordial supped to the of third reading of the bill. Mr. Serjeant TALFOURD said that he Toted for the bill on the simple ground that it had be en deemed necessary by very high legal and other authorities ter the purpose of re moving some doubts which were said to exist on the subject of the legality of the crown holding direct intercourse with the see of Rome. It was not that there did exist Any legal impediments to such intercourse; but it was lest there should be deemed to be such, that the noble lord at the head of the government had thought proper to introduce the pre sent bill. li ENLEY would oppose the bill. Mr. SHEIL.—I shell be mostsuccinet and brief, and shall limit my statement to • few fact.. The polemical part of the case I shall entirely avoid, and con fi ne myself to the diplomatic. By the 103rd article of the congress of Vienna, the rights of the hely see are defended and secured. Eng land was a party to that treaty • the name of Clancarty. or thodox to this hour, was attac hed to that treaty. It was laid before the house, no opposition was offered, nor was there any remonstrance against an arrangement by which we be came a consenting party to the settlement of the see of Rome. Is it not preposterous, then, that England, which secured the Pope in the enjoyment of a portion of his ecclesiastical do minions, should he debarred from holding diplomatic intercourse with that power which she virtually protects? (Hear.) I pees from 1815 to 1832. On the accession of Gre gory XVI., reforms were demanded by the Roman people ; they were refused, and the natural consequences ensued. A revolution tank pine in the legations: Austria seized Bologna, France Ancona, and Europe was on the verge of a general war. The four great European powers, Russia, Prussia, France, and Austria, concurred in making a most remarkable application to England, the object of which was to induce England to send an ambassador to Rome in order that by the concurrence of tee five pewees a final arrange ment of the Papal States might be come to. d no power to send an enbaesselor ; but an envoy, Sir We ha Hamilton Seymour, proceeded from Paris to Rome. I Dave here the correspondence which took place between bins and Prince Mettensich. By that correspondence it appears that con ferences were held for fourteen months with a view to the arrangement of the affairs of the Papal States. These con ferences terminated in failure • but it is remarkable that Sir H. Seymour, in a despatch—dictated, I presume, by my noble friend near me—foretold all which has since happened, and foresaw that from Rome the future disturbance of Italy hail burst forth. If in 1832 there was the strongest reason to send an ambassador to Rome, how much more so in 1848, when the Pope is culling fur intercourse, aid at a moment when Italy is giving birth to the most portentous events? (Hear, hear.) Is it not preposterous, at such a time, that we should not have a mini ter accredited to the court of Rome, and thus at once put an cad to that surrepti tious intercourse which is at the same time a practical Luse hood and a moral fraud ? (Loud cheers.) Mr. URQUHART feared that there was more in this bill than appeared upon the surface, and that its covert object was to govern the people of Ireland through the medium of the court of Rome. There was nothing in the present state of the I ter to prevent any necessary intercourse with the Pope, and therefore the present measure was as un necessary as it was impolitic. He should give it his decided opposition. e it itYNOLDS did not quite approve of the bill in its present shape, and whaled that the clause providing for the selection of a lay ambassador by the Pope was omitted, although he thought that a cardinal might be better em ployed than in acting the courtier in this country. Mr. NEWDEGATE took that last opportui ity of warn lag the protestant people of England of the consequences of the intended infraction of their protestant constitution. He would, however, advise his hon. friend not to divide any more against the bill, but to rest contented with the eloquent protest of the hon. audit timed member for Dublin University. Mr. F. SCOTT objected to the bill, as acknowledging a religious authority on the part of the Pope in these king doms, and hoped a division against it would be taken. Mr. J. O'CONNELL also opposed the bill, as a measure brought forward at a time when, from the political position of the Pope, it was thought some advantage might be taken. He denied that the Irish Roman catholic' were in favour of the measure. The house divided—For the third reading BB Against it 25-63 The bill was then read a third time and passed. CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL. Lord J. RUSSELL, in moving the order of the Prussia, Fr remarkable to induce I that by th , ment of tl power to It Seymour, correspond , Idetternieb fere:lees w, • arrangeme ferencee to H. Seem° noble (Tien and force: Italy had reason to in 1848, w moment w . / 1 events ? time, that court of R tious inter hood and Mr. Uli than app object we malium o present sh I with the I necessary opposition Mr. RI present el selection although ployed th I Mr. NI iag the p tke inteu i t • would, I more 440 prote.t of Mr. F. religious doms, an Mr. J. brought • • i . of the Ps N i I He denis the races The ht • ~ The bi Lord .• THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY kw would milt idi p 8111. The gates 4e will& bad been :by the government .ecly inesonpatible with garmetary system, _• each was bad ha luelf,;but the Piro malted would be highly ‘inental to Ow interests of the Collilitl7. He wished also anew what his right hon. fries! intended to do fee Jingled, and whether he intended to rase a loan for that coestry Mr. J. A. SMITH agreed with whit bad fallen from his hon. friend, the numbs for the West Riding, during the first part of his speeah7-that it was the imperative duty of she .government to Sulks the revenue gut the expendi-1 ture meet ; and he could not forbear rising to justify the' vote which he intended to give in favour of the mea sure of the government. He should give that vote, beaus he behaved the government had done all that lay in thew power to avoid the position in which they were now placed. They had proposed a tax to avoid the deficiency which ei istea in the revenue. He (Mr. J. A. Smith) had supposed the measure, and it was with regret that he saw them abandon it. There was at the present • time led a pecu liar position of affairs which he conside to justify the course which ' they had taken. This country was suffering from a deficiency occasioned mainly by a visitation of Providence—a famine in the slater kingdom. He believed also that the cause being temporary the deficiency would he temporary also; and that the cir cumstance , in which the government were undoubtedly placeill-the lODIC of the empire—the state of the whole world-justified the government in conceding to the opinion of the !louse of Commons, that it was not expedient to in crease the amount of taxation. In that cue the only alter native was to make a great re ductien in the expendi ture. Now he was not one of those who considered that under peculiar circumstances a reduction of expenditure. was n t judicious ; but he was not afraid to say that he did not think that even the reduction which bad be. n made was altogether advisable. lie was not afraid of war ; but he wan sorry to hear the hon. member for the West Reline give his opinion that the idea of war had been started by professional gentlemen for interested purposes. lie thought tee insinua tion ahem they unwort by of the hon. gen s le man, Tui country owed all her tranquillity to her continued prepam tion fur attack, which was toe greatest security for peace ; Rod it sviuld net oe wise to reduce the expenditure this year. The government had done all that they could to tweet the expenditure by proposing en increase of taxatioe ; they had done what was right in yielding to the opini mof the house and withdrawing their proposal ; and he would give his vote for their present measure. Leid G. BENTINCK thought that the hon. member for the West Riding was the last gentleman who should charge others with wi:ked delusions. The bon gentleman might think that 17 millions of expenditure could be reduced, but he had found no one there to coincide with him in the opinion. The circumstances in which this country WAS placed at the commerce:mot of the year were very different to the present, The warlike preparations which hid been euegested and re commend, d by the Prince do Joinville in 1844 had been faithfully carried our, and an increase in the maritime power of France had taken place such as had no justification except in some resolution in the minds of the rule re of Fiance that the day must c nue when they would desire to use them against this country. lie was one of those who would have refused, bad the question come to the vote, to add to the property or income tax. He was one of those who voted with the hon. member for Montrose to curtail it to its pre sent amount. But the house, though prepared to refuse the Cnancellor of the Eunequer an increase in that tax, ' was never asked whether it would refuse an additional tea on customs. Had the noble lord (J. Russell) and the Chancellor of the Exchequer come and &eked the house to impose some of the tales on customs which had been lately repealed, and to continue others which were soon to fell to the ground, he would have given them his hearty support. It had been stated that the reduction which had been made in taxaties amounted to the same sum as the preseut de ficieney ; and the hon. member for the West Riding had stated, that notwith standing the reduction in question, the net revenue of the country had never been so large as at present. Now, in 1848, alter the reduction of • considerable amount of customs duties, the revenue was 51,451,6091.; while, in 1846, before the reduction of those duties, it was 53,616,1781 , being an in- , Mitt of 2,200,0001. over the rev enue of last year. So that ' the ro would now be an ample surplus, instead of a deficiency, had it not been far the alterations in the customs duties which hail taken place during the last few years. He said, if they were now in difficulties, let them not look to loans but to the customs duties. Let them foilow the example of America, and have equal taxes for all the produce of foreign industry. But the Chancellor of the Exchequi r had fallen into the old chronic vice of the whigs of always getting into a defi ciency. Ever since they came into power in 1830 they had discovered a casualty every year to account for that dal ciency, and this year it was attributed to the Kaffir war. I But he manitained that it war the duty of a government to ' provide for such casualties, for it could not be expected that there would never be another famine, or more disturbances' on the continent, which by checking trade would diminish the consumption of excivable articles, and cause the government to fall into the position at present occup ed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the whig government, fast travelling into a state of insol vency and beggary. Ile considered that there were many taxes which might be re-imposed with advantage in the pre sent difficulty, among which he considered that the duties on foreign timber and cotton would tall as lightly DI any on the people of this country ; and he considered also that the duties on corn might have be en con tinued for a few year mine, if for no other reason, fur the sake of the revenue which they produced. Le t them not have Ti Course to the odious income tax or to the entailing of debts on our posterity; alter 33 sears of peace, let them not be mi-led by the delusion of those who said that the repeal of the corn laws would make flour lid. a pound, end fill England with prosperity by causing her to exchange her manufactures with foreign countries, so as to leave to every operative superfluity out of his higher wages and cheaper bread, to be expended on tea and sugar. Lot them rather look to the result of our diminished export" to the extent of 5,000,0001. Lord J. RUSSLLL did not think, after the experience of the session, that the government he d acre d unwisely in hav ing proposed an increase of the income tax—parti cularly when he considered that successive govern ments had pursued the plan of reducing the taxes of the country to a great extent. No lees than 10,000.0001. a year had recently been tac n off those tales that pressed upon articles of resumption; and that being so when circum 'venue arose to ca.l fur extraordinary expenditure, the y were obliged to propose an unusual measure to meet it. An hon. gentlemen asked, why not take money from the balances instead of proposing a loan ? but under all the circumstances he felt that the course proposed and exPained by his right hon. friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer was the beat. The boa. member fur Montrose proposed a great reduction of the naval and military force of the country. But what Mr. WODEHOUSE blamed the government for having appeared lately in the newspepers respecting a contemplated yielded to the suggestion of the hon. member for Montrose, war by France in Belgium would, he was sure, at once show in reference to sending out of the country two regiments, how impolitic such • measure would have been on the part the tote and the 92nd, at an improper period of the year of Eogl ind. (Hear, hear.) On th, other hand, the feeling owing to ...hitch upwards of 600 men and between 20 and all of the country was so significantly expressed against it, he offisers last their lives. The withdrawal of the African thought the government would not have been juhilied in squadron had also been recommended. Such a measure persistieg in their proposition ofincreasingtheinconee tax,and would be most disgraceful. lie considered that a nt s even , therefore was it that they had recourse to a loan, The noble tially necessary to keep up the army at its pres amount, lord proposed certain duties upon timber and raw cotton. in order to preserve peace in the manufacturing districts. Political economists, long previous to Adam Smith, were of Sir 11. WILLOUGHBY referred to the o pp osition given opinion that putting duties upon the materials of manufac re was a most unwise course. It had been the great bout by members of the present government toahe original imposi tion et the income tax, and said that such • tax ought only of Sir Robert Walpole that he had g reatl y reduced such to be resorted to in cases of great emergency. lie thought dutiesand (Lord J. R • 11) ; he Russell) certainly would not be dis it desirable that the Ch smeller of the Exchequer should posed to impose such duties. (Hear. hear.) Respecting the corn laws, he did not then wish to disp ute with the state whether he proposed to make up the deficiency by ex- noble lord what might be the effect of a is. duty ; chequer bills or by the creation of new stock. but he certainly rejoiced at being connected with a govern. Mr. HENLEY complained that the !scheme propounded ment which had nothing to do with the sliding scale of at the beginning of the present year by her Mijesty's go- 1815. During the whole of this year, corn was introduced vernment had been abandoned, and that a loon was contem- with the certainty plated. He saw nothing in the state of the country to . that there would be no duty above 10s., and that if the price r.ae much over 500. it would be ad justify this course of proceeding, which he held to be a den- witted at a 4s. duty, instead of waiting, as under the slid venue, profuse, and reckless mode of operation. At the ing scale, till it rose to 70s. before it would be admitted at same time, looking at the state of the approaching harvest, the condition of Ireland, and the circumstanres by which this that duty. lie thought that that hail been of the greatest country was surrounded, he could not vote against the nom- advantage to manufacturers and consumers and that a great security heal been given this year ove r ' the years of mittal of this bill. 1841-2-3. Mr. DRUDIMOND (Surrey) concur! , d will much that had been said on the subject of retrenchment ; but, looking The house then divided—Forgoing into committee —5l 66 Against it at the position of affairs, he should regret if the house was The house then went into committee on the bill. driven to a division on the present occasion. The bill then passel through committee. Mr. URQUHART expressed his determination to vote SAVINGS BANKS BILL. ' with the hon. member for Montrose (Mr. Hume) if he On the motion for seine into committee on this bill, pressed his amendment to a division. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said that the English and Scot ch Mr. NEWDEGATE sail he was not p re p ared to refuse savings banks considered that the provisions in this bill the supplies, which were celled for by the surrender of all would be injurious to those institutions is these countries. substantial principle.' to the advocates of free trade. lie did not think it was fair to press the measure at no late a Mr. COBDEN said that the charge had ofmn been reite- period of the session, without allowing the persons affected rated that the deficiency in the revenue arose from the free full time for consideration. (Hear, hear.) lie objected to trade measures which had been carried. Though it was said the clause relating to the trustees. that the legislation of 1846 had led to this state of things, he The CHANCELLOR out of the the EXCHEQUER said that leave he was prepared to contend that the revenue was now larger proposed to strike words of clause w than in 1845. This, however, was not now the question. the law as it stood Wore the act of 1841. He did not , The question Toth' , now at issue was whether or not intend to repeal the act of 9 George IV. lie pro this country had been spending too much mewl. He, posed to li mit the liability of trustees to an amount I those who thought with bim, compl lined that the burden not exceeding 1001. He also promised to add words similar to l of taxation on the people was excessive, and he contended those proposed by the hon. member for Athlone (Mr. Keogh). that the course cet legisla•ion to which the house had vaunted Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said that the changes proposed had made the proposed loan necessary, On the 25th of by the right hon. gentleman materially altered the nature of ' February last he had voted in • minority . of 69 on a motion the bill and obviated a part of his objection. But he objected to reduce the expenditure, and that vote justified his opposi- to the fifth clause more particularly. How was it possible tion to the proposed loan of 2,000,0001. The increased ex- for the depositors to produce all the books in two days? penditure arisinq from the cry of an invasion was a monstrous (Hear, hear.) Yet they so. would lie did lese the interest on that the feta their de- I delusion, which had been got up by professional men, and, posits if tbey did not do not think lon the whole, was unjuaifiable. On every ground he tees would consent to act if this clam e were allowed to stand. I should vote against the proposed loan, in whatever shape it What had occurred with respect to English and Scotch sa -1 est be raised. Tinge banks—he said nothing of Irish banks—to justify the After a few words from Mr. MUNTZ in explanation, government interfering with them at this late period of the Kr. J. O'CONNELL said that as none of the opponents session ? An impression hid gone inroad that the money de at the government measure had suggested the means by posited in savings banks had been used for other purposes which to meet the deficiency, he should give his vote in than those which were intended by their institution. lie favour of the bill now under consideration. At the same hoped that the whole of this hill would be postponed except close he must observe that if the government would save the the part relating to the Irish banks. expenditure of the nation they would do justice to Ireland. Mr. HENLEY thought that the government bad laid no The present cost of the military, naval, and ordnance forces ground whatever for this wholesale interference with kept_ up in that country amounted from 1,600,0001. to savings bank'. Upon a very meagre report of a committee a 1,600,0001 , and if the demands of Ireland were listened to general measure had been introduced, oh which the managers and admitted his cost might be diminished by at least one and trustees of Ravings banks probably knew nothing. So • crude and ilbconcocted a measure ought not now to be Mr. SYOONE armed the assertion made by the hon. pressed on the house ;it would be much better to consider it member for the West Riding eater than ) that the income deliberately early next session. To require the proauction bad this year been greater than in 1845. On of t ee depositors books in a given number of days would be the contrary, he aseerted that before the free-trade an act of great hardship, as many of them might be at a tricks had been practised upon the country the ro distance, or outof the country. With respect to the English venue was higher. He found that in 1815, the total and Smech banks there had been no complaint whatever, income was 64,417,6151., while for the present year it was and that interference would probably create a panic. 52,082,6571., leaving a deficiency of 1,764,0001. With respect Col. THOMPSO toN said ioor f the hill didrs i ot propose t om g i be ve to the proposition of borrowing in time of peace, he had no greater security p bjects hesitation in saying that the principle was evil, and if the unimportant . Nothing was more clear ' not o than that any defal proposition had been made at an earlier period of the session cation in the write banks must e made good by that he for one should have been inclined to make a stand against house. it, and have called noon the government to suggest some Col SIBTIIORP said the bill was an admission that there plan of taxation on which the nation could rely. Ho must was something rotten is the condition of the savings banks, condemn a system by which the Chancel of the Ex- Mr. WODEHOUSR, as a trustee of a savings bank, chequer would in fact give a bond for 1001,, for should he disposed to resign his trust if this bill passed. taxation had reached its limits, and that all attempts to increase nee sierenue lyldhicesal ieakelee-outerpe a tax en property—dtal tailed, el attempt =hie Kai years ago to make *the reeilieves t tiddler five Or tea per tent to the Custom, and *seise it knell% bad been • sig nal t h e( theeretterns fecre th us souring hoiebeadectressede under tbeopentakft of Mut scheme, though the irriee ad the articles to the consumer bad been enhanced. The see item on which there was an increase wan the assessed tales, and that was obtained by a breach of faith, old window , which were opened on the understanding that they would not bi charged having been brought into tha mount. Between the years 1822 and 1844 there he. been reductions in the funded di bt and in the terminable annuities amounting to 3,030,0001., yet, with the exception of the reiuctien conse qui nt on the altered value of money from 6 to 3 per cent., and from 34 to 3f per cent., this reduc tion had not resulted in the saving of a farthing in the annual charge. On the contrary, the expenditure had gone on increwing in constque nce of the additions which had been made to the permanent debt. lie complained not only that the debt hag increased, but that the whole manege me at of the financial affairs of the country was bad. It was, however, in the power of the people themselves to provide the remedy by choosing representatives who would do their duty. They . rau-t remember that b irrowing Web not m king provisioa,--it wee the act ef the spendthrift. linking at the state of helmet aud the prospects of the country generally for the next year, he thought the time had conic when the house should grapple with the d firculty, by show.ng determined to educe the expenditure. Thoulth no one was more desirous for the maintenance of peace and order then he was, he did think the scale on which our establishments were kept up was neither necee.ary nor prudent. (Hear.) The number of armed men now maintained was almost double what it woe 25 years ago. By the return of the err se and net income and expenditure of the country,—which showed the enormous cut of collection, and to which he wished to direct the attention of honourable members,—it appeared that the expenditure of the country had increased by about 10,000,0001. since MG. The expenditure of our 41 ebonies was most enormous—not less than 3,172,0001. By giving these colonies selegovern meet at least 510,000 of this would be saved. Many thought the sooner we crone to a reckoning with the landholder the biter; but he thought the moment the public faith was broken the power of England was at an cad. (Hear.) Instead of increasing the debt we ought to dietrinsh it; but an long W. money could be borrowed eovernments gave the rn selves no trouble about the matter. Early next session he would move resoluta :its pledgieg the house to retrenchment and reduction. lie would now move that this bill should be taken :nto consideration that day three menthe. Mr. M N . rz seconded the motion, noel complained of the late perio 1 at which the budget had been brought forward. There must be a.me object in this ; probably it had been with the view of vetting the house into R state in which the government could carry what they liked. Funding and bor rowing ass not' log better than extravagsoce ; it had been the resource of all bad governments. A former whig g - vernment had sought to bolster up a failing revenue Icy add ing five per cent. to the assessed taxes. Tney talked much of the elasticity of the country; hut it did not serve them. Then p ro "government hysician" Well coiled in ;he ice posed a pperty tax, an te he result was to remove the bur den, to a certain extent, from the poor to the rich, although the measure itself was little better than picking pockets. The liberals, though they had opposed the first imposition of this tax, had no hesitation in asking for its renewal. Then came the railway speculation, with its natural cons quence of a prossure on the money market, to which the potato failure centributed, and which the Bank Act el 1841 failed to prevent, notwithstanding all the good effects which it had been predicted to produce. At the present moment the go vernmeot was much in the same situation as they a ere eight or ten years ego : the revenue woe falling oft, trade decreasing, and d seutent largely prevailing. Every go vernment, fur the lest 35 years, had failed to secure pros perity the reason was they had uniformly . kept in the old beaten track. We were told to ke e p nat ional faith; hut ho called that national faith which was only kept on one side "national humbug." (Laughter.) Last year the state of this country was most disgraceful; no banker on the con• tinent would cosh a bill on any party in London. If the act of 1814 was a good cne, why nut carry it out ; why suspend it when the uitficulty came ? Tee discontent which now preertiled arose solely from distress: when all classes were prosperous, it was impossible to get six men together to talk polities. (Hear and laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was the hurt person to oppose env proper reduceon of expendi ture ; and the statement which had been made by the hon. member for Montrose war the fullest justification of the course the gov.rement had pursued. He admitted that overwhelming majorities of the louse had concurred with the irove remint in the impropriety ot reducing our establi-h -meets; and no one who reflected on what had since occurred, here and in Ireland, could condemn the course then pur sued. But the boo. member, in speaking of the mode of equalising the revenue and the expenditure, while admitting that the Or plus ultra of taxation was reached, lead in fact admitted the propriety of the plan which government pro powil—to meet the excess of expenditure by borrow ing. That ex.eesa was merely of a temporary chat ratter, and ought not therefore to be met by tee imposition of permanent additional taxes. Ile had thought it the best j course to augment the property tax - the house having ob ec to that, he now proposed to take the next beat course, siker looking to the reduction of the expenditure to the lowest point consistent with the national security. Upwards of 800,0001. heed been struck off the original estimates ; there were many other reductions which might be effected next year ; and with dist pouibility in view of the govern ment, they had felt they should not be justified in proposing an increase of taxation. Allusion had been made to the in creased charge of the debt ; but in the last seven years there had been a reduction in hat charge of not less than a million. Admitting the general correctness of the financial outline which had been given by the hon. member for Bir mingham, be would observe that the imposition of the income tax had been accompanied by very large reduc tions in indirect taxation, from which the nation at large had derived material benefit. lie could not admit that the change in the condition of our finances since 1841 was owing to the conduct of any government; the failure of a large portion of the food of the Irish people, the severe commercial depression, and the exportation of the precious metals, sufficiently accounted for existing emba aaa a meets. He certainly could not acquiesce in the recommendation of the hon. member for Birmingham, that, after every other expedient had failed, they should resort to the doctrines advocated by what was called the " Birmingham school." (Hear.) Mr. U. CURRIE expressed his objection to increasing the funded debt. Mr. HEY WOOD said he thought tl e course proposed by the government the beet that could be pursued under the day for the committee on this bill, intimated that after the hon. member for Finsbury had . called ate Motion (which he intended to do on this bill) to the case of the assistant navy surgeons, and the bill should have gone through committee, he should propose an adjournment tor two boon ; and he hoped when they met in the evening those bon. gentlemen who had notices of motion on the paper would permit the remaining order of the day to tete precedence. cent, as far Lord 0. BENTINCK objected to this arrange as he was concerned. Lord J. RUSSELL hoped the other hon, members who had notices of motion would consent. Col. DUNNE, having been informed by the noble lord that he proposed to move the re-appointment of the corn 'Maio* on the army expenditure next session, mud ho would not delay the bunts, ss of the house by prosing his motion as to the promotion of officers of the Guards. The house then went into committee, when Mr. WAKLEY proceeded to complain of the arbitrary regulations under which, the assistant naval surgeons were admitted into the service; of their being compelled to men with the mielship:nen when on board. While the qualifica tion required for the assistant -surgeon in the navy was the same es in the army they should be placed on the same foot ing. The medical officers of the navy, however, Were In • worse position, not only in being compelled to associate with uneducated boys instead of gentian of the same age a nd rank as themselves while on service, hut also in respect to prize-money, provisions, acd allowances. The result was, that though the pay was ample there was always • deficiency of fully qualified candidates for this branch of the 1111,41 service; and, he believed, so much had the want been felt, that a hint had been given to the of Surgeons not to be too strict in their examination of can didates. lie was informed that persons had passed after 20 minutes' examination, and that the majority of those who were appointed as assistant naval surgeons came from the ;north, from whence men might be obtained to take any office. (A laugh.) Although, on several occa sions, this grievance, and its injurious consequences to the service, had heen brought under the notice of the Admiralty, they had hitherto refused t place these officers on that foot. ing which, Ire birth and education, they were entitled to. Capt. BERKELEY denied that the naval ari,tant,sur geons were degraded or treated with injustice by the present system, or that they did not oceapy the position which pro perly belonged to them—that of messing ` not with bon s, but with young men of their o wn a g e, equal to them i birth and education, and superior to them in naval experience. to this opinion he was fully fortified by all preceding bands of the Admiralty, by the evidence of Sir Wiliam Burnett, and by the report of the committee which sat in 1840 to in qn;re into naval and military promotion. Since that report was made, up to the present year, there were 261 naval savant-surgeons app Anted, which, ace aides dog the very tew ships in commission, sufficiently proved that there was no dearth °kleinlaut , . Mr. HUME drew • contrast between the navy and the army, as regarded the treatment of the asdatentsurgeons, contending that while that contrast existed to the prejudice of the naval assistant-surgeon, they could not expect in tne navy the same superior ties , of men. Colonel nom PSON thought the question might be re solved into this—whether there was accommodation in the wardroom for another officer. Even that would make a most substantial difference in the position of the assistant etirgeOn. The conversation then dropped, the bill passed through committee, and was ordered to be repotted to-morrow (this day), at 12 o'clock. The house having resumed, adjourned at a quarter before 6 till half-pant six o'clock. The Louse resumed at half-past six o'clock. DUBLIN JURIES. Mr. G. A. HAMILTON had a question to ask the noble lord at the heid of the government, It would bo recollected that on a former occasion the hon. and learned member for Athlone heel in the course of some observations stated that the foreman of the jury in Mitchel's case was a bankrupt. He did not believe that the hon. and learned meinter had meant more than to state the simple fact, but Mr. Whitty, the penon referred to, conceived that the observation was calculated to lead to wrong inferences, and to injure him in his business. He (Mr. Hamilton) had been given to understand that Mr. Macon, the bankruptcy com moisiuner in Dubin., had written to the noble lord stating that Mr. Whitty had passed through the c dirt without the slightest stain on his character, and that his answers and the state of his accounts had Italy satisfied the comulisaioner. The qualifier. he had to ask was, whether the noble lord hod received a letter of that description ? Lord J. RUSSELL.—Yes, I have received a letter from Mr. Macon to the effect stated by the hon. member. Mr. Masanstates that he was fully convinced of Mr. Whitty's fairness and integrity. Mr. K EOG It begged to say that in what he bad stated he had not intended to cast the slightest imputation on Mr. Whitty's character. TURNPIKE ACTS BILL. Mr. C. LEWIS moved that a committee be appointed to confer with the Lords, and to state reasons for adhering to the Commons' amendments to the above bill. The committee was appointed, and attended the House of Lords. On their return, Mr. LEW IS stated that the conference had taken place, and tht the comittee bad stated reasons for adhering to their amendmen a m ts, snit hail left the bill with their lordships. HARBOUR OF SOUTHWOLD. Mr. HUME said he had placed on the paper a motion for an humble address to be presented to her Majesty, that she will be graciously pleased to cause an inquiry to be made into the alleged inje ry to the port and harbour of Southwold, in Suffolk, by the ineloeure of several thousand acres of land, the pseperty of the crown, that were formerly covered with tidal waters, contrary to the act of I Anne, c. 67, a. 5, and, consequently, highly detrimental to the interests of the crown and the public. His rea son for tiding so was his anxiey that the decision of a court of law should be taken as to t the rights of individuals to encroach on crown property. He understood that go hernment intended t f o take some steps in the matter, and wished to learnfrom the noble lord at the head of the woods and forest, what those steps were. Lord MORPETII could only elate that if parties who felt themselves aggrieved would send any evidence to his depart- sent it should be submitted to the Attorney General, with • view to proceedings at law, should such • course meet with that officer's approbation. Mr. HUME was satisfied with this declaration, and would leave the matter in the hands of the government. ISLAND OF TOBAGO. Lord G. BENTINCK rose to call the attention of the house to a petition which be had presented from the Bps aker and members of the House of Assembly of the bland of Tobago, and to move that it be printed. His reason for pressing on his motion, t , the delay of the government busi• ases, was that the West Indies and Mauritius Loan 'Bill was 1111 of the orders for that evening, a bill which proposed a lean to the West Indies to the exclusion of Tobago. The petitioners complained of the partial and oppressive conduct of Lord Grey in refusing to them any share in the loan, and also that a petition of theirs had nut been laid before the Win Indies relief committee. The ground of Lord Grey's refusal to allow the people of Tobago to participate in the loan was that they bad net contributed anything to the im portation of free labour, and therefore had no title to assistance. The petitioners stated that they were deeply injured by the hurricane of 1846, and were unable to pay tales. That the Monies since 1832, by the lose of their labour, had diminished one half. Lord Grey stated as a reason why Tobago was not to receive any share of the labourers pro vided by the funds supplied by t he British g overnment, that I only those colonies should receive such moieties as paid the high st wages; but the petitioners asserted there were con siderations of more importance than wages, as the woe , rioril of climate and the accommodation afforded to the labourers, which should be taken into consideration. An other claim Tobago had to equal justice with the other colo nies was that the o`-her colonies, as Trinidad and Jamie', were paid compensation for the loss of their slaves in propor tion to the population, which Tobago was not. As he un derstood the petition bad been printed (though in an unsatisfactory way in the appendix to the re port of the committee on public petitions), he did not intend to press his motion, but he bad thought it riht to call the attention of the bowie to the question whether the Secretary of State was to be permitted to visit this or any other colony with his wrath, becau s e, from the operation of the legislation of parliement, or the visitations of providence, it was unable to pay taxes. If this course was to be taken with regard to Tobago, he should like to know what was to be done with Trinidad and Guiana, both of which had threatened to stop the sumlies and whether the half million grant was to be reser% ed as • reward for those servile colonies which dared not to show their independence or exercise the right of a free people—to refuse the supplies when they felt themselves subjected io au intolerable grievence. THE RAJAH OF SATTARA. Mr. G. THOMPSON postponed his motion on the subject of the claims of the heirs of the late rajah till Thursday next (to-morrow). EXCHEQUER BILLS BILL. On the motion for the commit..l of this hill, Mr. lIUME observed that the object of this bill was to raise a loan of 2,000,0001., and to add 60,0001. or 70,0001. a year to the permanent debt of the country. He protested against the principle of borrowing money in time of peace, particularly and. r the present circumstances of the country ; and he intended to take the sense of the house against it. On the 25th of F. b. last, when it was understood there was a deficiency of 2,900 : 0001., he urged on the government and the house the propriety of bringing the expenditure within the revenue, or of providing for the excess by additional taxation, and proposed a resolution with that view. That resolution, however, was lost on a division by a large rink). rity. On the 13th of March he again proposed that the in come tax should be limited to one year, in order that in the meantime government might take measures for reducing the expenditure so as to bring it within the income. That proposition, also, was lost by a majority of 363 to 136, and the income tax was passed for three years. On the 20th of March, he moved to reduce the number of sailors from 43,000 to 36,000, but that motion, together with a subsequent one, to make a similar reduction in the army, and another made by an hon. friend of his, to a bolish the worse than useless African squadron, met with the same fate. All attempts, therefore, to effect reduction in the expenditure of the country had been met with discou ragement by the house and the government ; and it was now asked, the house having refused to meet the deficiency by additional taxes, to meet it by a loan. Though he had not ' opposed the loan for Irish distress, because that was called for under extraordinary circumstances, he objected, as a principle, to raising loans in time of peace. Looking at the prospects of the country, the state of commerce, the compe tition in trade, the decrease of profits, the large number of unemployed poor, the enormous increa s e in the p oor-rates, , he contemplated with great ahrm the tendency which had been evinced of late, to add year after yi ar to the permanent debt of the country. It was admitted by the right hon. baronet (Sir IL Peel) that ING, AUGUST 30, 1848. Lord O. BENTINCK moved that the bill should be com mitted that day three months. The select comhe savinmittee h ad gs sn ly examined four witnesses, itne witnesses, with respect to t banks of Trelee, Killarney, and Dublin, and none at all with respect to the banks of this country ; thi y had sat nine days, and had produced a repdrt, reonamendieg that further inquiry should take place, and that a bill should be passed regulating the respon sibility of trustees sod ap pointing auditors. They had made no recommendation etd wi the th respect to the savings banks of this country, an y Clitmcellor of the Exchequer came down with a general Twhich he teemed not to understand himself. The proceedings of the select committee had been secret ; the officers of sayings banks in the City had applied to allowed to watch these proceedings, but had not been per ' stilted to do so. It was most unfit that this measure should be brought forward at this period of the union, when rem nisters wer e suerounded by their sleeping myrmidons,edy to wake up and vote as they directed. (Liu Otter.) In the Marylebone savings bank there were 18,700 depositors ; how could all these send in their bioks in two days ? Even if this were done, how could such • number of accounts be inspected and verified without increasing the staff of officers, ane quently augmenting the expense and decreasing the interest to Use depositors ? Such a provision would in fallibly reduce the number of depositors considerably. The bill had only been printed yesterday, and the house ought not now to be asked to condder it. Mr. MONSELL supported the bill as being calculated to restore confidence in the depositors in the savings' banks in Ireland. Unless tome change were made such as that now proposed by this Lill the most serinue evils would arise. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the sole object of the bill wee to secure a batter management of the savings' batiks with a view to the interests of the depositors. The bill only sought that which the trustees of the savings banks had themselves 'might in Oie year 1844 from the then Chancellor of the Exchequer, and therefore he was at a loss to conceive the grounds upon which the present oppositio rested. The bill fixed a limited responsibility on the trustees 1 in order that a proper control should be kept over the officers whose appointment would be vested in the trustees. The ; measure was essential to afford a check upon and a security • against the mismanagement which had already arises in various parts of the country. Mr. H. HE HENRI' complained that the bill bad been delayed to r, late a period of the session. He ehouid v. to against the bill, because it would be useless in Ireland, and would he badly received in England. Mr. BROTH. ERTON could not understand the meaning of the opposition to the bill. The hon. member talked as if he expected that the government was not answerable for the deposits. They were responsible for what they received, but not for all the mismanagement which was exercised. It the government attempted to exercise any control in the matter, the cry would be against centralisation, nt h two would be said ' hat they wished to get all the power into their own hands. lie considered that savings banks in England were generally well rhanaged, but that in Ireland the case was different, and that the managers generally contrived to put a great deul of the money into their own pockets. Ai.el be thought it disaracr ful to Ireland that after so much misma nagement of their banks they should come and ask the house to make good that which was the result of their own deficiencies. Mr. REYNOLDS complained that his hon. friend, with out knowing anything of the facts, gave every credit to the ' mode of manegement of the English banks, and allowed no merit to the Irish. He was sorry to say that there were certain classes in England who always lolted at the black side of Irish doings, and who always drew their illustra tions of dishonesty and profile icy from that cowl. try. Without including the hon. member in that category lie thought that in the absence of facts he had brought his mind to that belief. Notwithstandieg the deficiencies of the bill, he considered it to be a step is the right direciinn, and would give it hie support. Mr. KEOGH defended the management of the Irish banks. Mr. J. A. SMITH raid that the opposition to the bill of the hon. member fur Kerry surprised him, because the hon. member was one of the committee that concurred unat.i mously in recommending the hill to be brought In or.ce. Mr. HERBERT said be had not concurred in the at report of the committee. Mr. NEWDEGATE supported the amendment, and hoped the noble lord would persevere in it. The house divided—For the amendment 2l Against it The house then went into committee. On Clause 1, In answer to a question from Mr. HENLEY OS to the liabi lity of trustees, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that a trustee would he liable for wilful neglect to the whole extent of the deialeation, unless he should have in writing limited his responsibility to 1001. The clause was agreed to, as was, a'so, Clause 2. • The remaining clauses were after a long discussion agreed to, but before the house resumed, Mr. WODEILOUSE moved an amendment limiting the operation of the bill to Ireland. Lord G. BENTINCK. Mr. HENLEY, Mr. NEWDEGATE, and Mr. KEOGH rUpp aced the amendment, and Too committee divided.—For the amendment .. 11 Against it The house then resumed, and the bill was reported. The Spirits, Dealers in (Ireland), Bill, the British Spirits Warehousing Bill, and the Distilling front Saver Bill, were severally reported, and ordered to be read a third time this day. The Slave Trade (Equator) Bill was read a third time, and passed. The commi - ree on the copper and lead duties was, on the sugestion of Lord G. Bstsrtsicx, who stated that nothing should induce him to allow that stage to pass at such an hour (nearly half-past 3 a.m.), postponed. The house adjourned at half-past three o'clock, having sat • from twelve at noon. HORSHAM ELECTION CONDITTTEE, YESTERDAY. — The rebutting evidence on behalf of Mr. Fitzgerald had not terminated at the rtsirg of the committee. Itite erprefo. MAILS. The mails for New South Wales, Van Die 11111 1 •11 Lend, and New Zealand will De made up on the evening of the 314 August. The moils for the West Coast of Africa and Madeira will be made op on the evening of the 31st August The malls for British North America, and the United States will be maw, up the evening of the Ist Sept. The West India Mails, including Bermuda, Naisan, Havanna, Honduras, New Orleans, Vera Cm, Tompico, and Porto Rico, and excluding those for Madeira, Jncmel, C,artharremi, Santa Martha, Ciogres, Panama, West Coast of South America, and St. Juau-cle- Nicaragua, will be made up on the morning of the led Sept The mails for the Brazils, the River Plate, Monte Video, Pernam buco, Bahia, Madeira, and Buenos A p ron, will be made up on the evening of the 4th September. The mails for Vigo, Oporto, Lisbon, Madeira, Cadiz, and Gibraltar will be made up on the morning of the 7th Sept, Thu overland claw! mails, Ma Marseilles, to the Mediterranean, Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, Hong-Kong. Vac., will Do made up on the evening of the 7th September. The overland mails lot Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian Islands, Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, evening, and China, ran Southamp ton, will bo made upon th of the 20th Sept. NOTICE TO ADVERTISERS. The number at S TA MP S issued by the authorities of the Stamp-othce, during 1847, to the DAILY NEWS was 3.447,009 This, we believe, is within eight per cent. of the number r.sue... to the -Horning Herald, Morning CAroritek, and Morning Post, ALL I'UT TOOETREK. In addition to the above, issued to the DAILY NEWS, Morning Paper, there wore issued for the Evening Edition, TEE EXPRESS 778 714 Which wu more, we belies's, than were issued either to the °Jobe or Standard. Evening Papers. B ion NATE% LT L0111)011 Teo 13,•-111oroiLi, SS mkt. psst W.- pLLI To- —lloroiLL 33 =la Nat 3, Mune., dn. put LONDON,WEDNESDAY.AUG. 30. THE disastrous and disheartening session of 1848 draws near its close ; and as its like never has been witnessed, so let us pray that we may never see an othe: such again. Weary of its unprofitable length, its aimless incoherency, and of the many hopes and promises it has falsified, the people have for some time watched its abortive prolongation with feelings only of impatience and misgiving, lest some new evil should come upon them. A sense of relief will probably be the most general as the tidings of the prorogation spread. Men will laugh—a scornful and a gloomy laugh—as the chances of further fumbling and evasion of great wants and great measures are for a time put an end to. Some months at least of respite from daily disappointment and disgust may now be regarded as secure. We may still con tinue to deplore the neglect of national wishes, to mourn over the imprisonment of national resources, and to behold with unavailing sorrow the prevalence of national distress ; but we shall no longer be tanta lised by solemn trifling in high places with matters of such urgent need ; we shall n a longer sicken at the levity with which such interests are treated by those whose imperative duty it is either to deal with them seriously and perseveringly, or eonestly to avow their incompetence or unwillingness to do so. What, for example, can be more utterly indefen sible than the legislative course pursued daring the last nine shameful months towards Ireland? We can understand and pity, if we cannot approve, the policy advocated by such personages as Lords STam.EY and OLENOALL. In their estimation hemp and steel are the choicest implements of rale. The number of the recusants against authority, or the animating motive of their offence, with these sagacious lawgivers makes no difference. Error and guilt, selfishness and gene rosity, mistaken zeal and unmingled sordidness are not matters whereof their undiscriminating code takes held. The murder of a defenceless individual for private vengeance, and the frantic threat of an ex asperated multitude to usurp the powers of law—are all alike to toryism. Resistance must be put down, and remonstrance must be stifled, and discontent must be made constructive treason, and then the country (i. e., the landed gentry) will be at peace. All this as a system we can understand. Whatever else a ll y be thought of it, it is at least consistent and reliable, and that is something. We know what it would be' at ; and if the nation should ever adopt its disciple s for its government and guidance we should know be. forehand what we had to expect. But of the coo peting systems of policy, whether they be Peelism or whiggism, or by whatever other title designated, what shall we say ? We wail not men or ministers; sooth to ray, we see but little eldferenee in point of principle or purpose, as far as hapless Ire. land is concerned, between the present cabinet and its predecessors. While in opposition, all admit and seem really to feel that the Aatutuble condition or that kingdom imperiously demands :elorm ; that its franchises ought forthwith to be equalised with those of Britain; that its ecclesiastical state is wholly inde. fenaitie; and that its physical resources ought with out delay to be liberated from the accursed thraldom beneath which they . lie idle. But in office, forthn itß never comes. The intolerable church monopoly grows into something " not so very excessive in pecuniary amount," but " involving considerations of the greet e d delicacy and difficulty." And the hindrances to investment of capital and popular industry arc all • resolved into the false pretence of "universal inie curity," and the flippant sneer of " want of self-reli ance. We neither deny the evils of insecurity or want of self-depender ce; but every one, except cabi net ministers for the time being, know and admit that neither the oue nor the other are univ, real, and his ' Tory's inexorable verdict will undouleedly declare that both have been much more the res ul t s of wi cked and I , mischievous laws, than the spontaneous produce of the Celtic soil. But, were it otherwise, there would still be no ex cuse for men whose own reiterated taunts of one an other for culpable neglect of just and practical measures of relief stand upon record. To the indict nt recently preferred by Lord SHREWS/Mir against miuisters there is no defence. Sir Roma PEEL, when quitting office two years since, dithered his belief that great measures of reform, social and political, were needed by Ireland, and ought to be attempted. Lord Join RUSSELL told the world that he had had a dream about the matter, and that in his midnight vision he had seen the soil of Ireland made available for the sustenance of her people, the rightsof Ireland placed finally and for ever beyond dispute, and the al•ars of Ireland purified from the desecration of intolerance and ascendancy. Bat Sir ItemtEnt has never said or done any one thing tending to accelerate the essential charges he pronounced to be possible and indispensable in 1846 ; and Lord Joics has since awoke in office, and lo I—it is all a dream. Not one earnest or manly effort has been made during the present shameful session to deal with the church question, or the fran chise question, or the mu icipal oue'tion, or the grand jury question, or the labour question, or the land question. It is perfectly farcical to talk of such miserable scraps of legislation as the Evicted Destitute Poor Bill, or such jobbing crotchets as the Farmers' Estate Bill, as national measures. Two measures, and two only, deserving the name of Irish reform measures, were laid before parliament since its assembling in November last; and of the be nefits derivable from both the justly dissatisfied people of Ireland have been unfortunately deprived. We allude to the Franchise Bill, and the Incumbered Estates Bill. The forms was introduced in the month of April, and early in May pass.d the wend reading with general approval, especially from the Irish members. But whether in consideration of the latter circumstance, or from some other equally wise and valid reason, from the moment it was found practicable to carry the measure, it was abandoned; and no entreaty or expostulation could induce her Majesty's government to run the risk of diverting any portion of popular attention from the mischievous schemes on which in disgust and despair it had daily become more and morn con centrated. To what evil influence this most unhappy course is to be ascribed, we * cannot of course under take to tell : but whencesoever the fatal counsel came that thus induced the whigs to do themselves, as a party, and the people of Ireland, so manifest a wrong, we trust that henceforth we may at least be spared the odious task of having to record such proofs of in stability of purpose, or something less excusable. The fate of the Incumbered Estates Bill has been, if possible, still more to be regretted. The Franchise Bill was not mangled and maimed in its progress through committee as its more unhappy counterpart was doomed to be. Next session we may still look for its resuscitation and re-introduction in the form in which it was unaccountably shelved last May. But the lacumbered Estates Bill has passed into a law— not as it was originally drawn—not as all who sin cerely advocated it as a remedial scheme desired that it should have been—not, in a word, in a shape calculated in reality to " facilitate the sale of incumbered properties in Ire land," bat emasculated and paralysed and deformed to suit the sinister and sordid views of the grasping money-lenders and joint-stock companies. Such are the wretched results of the session, as far as one portion of the empire is concerned, and that a portion which, for the sake of British interests, to say nothing of its own, preeminently claimed an efficient and restorative policy. ONE of the main causes which led the authorities of various workhouses to treat the casual poor with unwarrantable harshness and neglect will be done away with by the law which is to come into operation on the Ist of October next, and which provides that the costs for the relief of the wandering poor are to be chargeable to the common fund of each union, and not, as hitherto, to the parish in which the workhouse happened to be situated. Vagrancy, in the dire and menacing form which it has of late assumed, is a plague of such recent growth, that the inhabitants of localities less exposed to the infliction are very imperfectly aware of the extent to which it presses upon the resources of places w hich, owing to their central position, the affluence and hu manity of their inhabitants, or their neighbourhood to extensively pauperised districts, are exposed to a perpetual influx of migratory poor. The cases of Marylebone wotkhouse, and more recently of that of St. 'Martin-in-the-Fields, have, in consequence of the rather unwarrantable conduct of their authorities, made a great deal of noise. And doleful has been the outcry from places like Liverpool, Bristol, and the Welsh ports, overwhelmed and preyed upon by swarms of famishing Irish. But the extent of the calamity, the terrific rapidity of its increase, the disease and demoralisation which everywhere follow in its train ; the inadequacy of the union workhouses, as at present organised and officered, to corrector con trol the evil; the interruption of their proper tune tions, consequent on their attempts to do so; above all, the intolerable burden imposed ou some of those parishes which have been so Un fortunate as to offer eligible sites for union work houses, are as yet very imperfectly known to the community at large. Nor is it a slight labour to supply this defect. The documents recently issued by the poor-law board are sufficiently voluminous. Bat they are so imperfectly digested, so badly arranged in every respect, that lacking, as they do, the conveni ence of an index, or even of a decent table of con tents, it is no easy matter to epitomise their most striking results, or select at a glance the most alarm ingly hideous of the monster evils whose existence they disclose. As yet, indeed, anything like a statis tical estimate of the numbers and cost of the vagrant poor is impossible, from the mere fact that hitherto, in many of, the workhousee , no separate account has been kept of the expense of their casual inmates. The best we can do at this moment is to select some individual case, as an example both of the general evils which we have signalised above, and specially of that inequality in point of pecuniary parish responsibility which Mr. IiULLER s bill II intended to remedy. One thing is obvious enough from the papers before us, that it is not the parishes that are so large or po7 pious as to have a workhouse to themselves that have had most reason to complain. There, whatever the amount of the rates expended in casual relief, it er, is equally contributed by all the ratepayers. Taints the parishes of Marylebone and St. Martin-in. the-identsields include so large a proportion of the wealthy res of the metropolis, persons spending there the incomes which they derive from all quarters of the United Kingdom, that they have the less right to complain it an inordinate share of the poverty as well as the wealth of the empire should either endenizen itself among them, or ask at their gates the temporary may Or tauce of a meal and a night's repose. The same be said of the other parishe s that have sepa ra te work- At houses, at least at the west e nd of the metropolis. all events, the proceedings of some of their underlings bee been so needlessly inhu orfeited that claim to the pi rvrise might have been acne olexities and losses from t. , as a lready fairly app ;iodation, th e bill on which v ;listiglet us take daes not pre t te h nd to o But o case s oh less noisy in its complait pit the humane demeanour c garylebone or St. Martin's lake t h e not very p o p ulous t terse a, to which, from the osd within its precincts, alt Issual relief ia the Wand...y le e a chargeablP. But we w: 11 *Mon state their own case. to the poor - l aw board on the The guardians of the Wa ndsw o ire ing 20 t h J une to reresent to you that, fad last, there were nsual wa n rd. of their wo rkhouse r j whom to we re males and e num .nr 2,526 were childro' 17 67 ol them m ale., 7:,9 ut 1 a mber so reliev th n ed i th, astral ni oi r d, and in e last hi nro-thrs, were Irisn ; an s ed wandering poor above me Is tatedicA trertan nt either at louden Fever hospital, to th ess union largely contributes, se ithem are r emoved, at a great from the eircumstanc.s above W been cast upon the Wand *early the whole of which is I Issse happening to be I..eally si e ening poor, or p nor who from a 1111111::". ; 00 Tetteackulihihtelid:lnneeedatsecbric'iibeo'ishic:itnai.,intdnirwomita::mhe'he:rsnitail;itioaa'lliNtbia:ri'.nt:itmo‘ngutsl:h.iu; ileaf)tirtiwindoardit.i:joilttil einalpirtite:.ihhtty:ersal; tnnawhremidlwlit,behoi parish gr e ugrehrooguuu t:i:a : 0: %bey have had the miisfortu ia process of formation. a vagrancy increases is tabular statement affixed ti In twelve months ending '. vs of applicants for casual md Clapham workhouse tr ---- ............................................... 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