The Express. — London, England, 1848-06-20 00:00:00

Wheat gold from 6s. 3d. to 71.61. Oa% Is. N. W k 3d. 1 Barley, 4e. to 4s. 3d. Beans, 4s. 641. to 48. Id. psi biol. Slienwenunr, June 17.-The high rates' 11 this day chunked sales. and for the few lota of What mid, es. 5.1. to 6s. 10.1. per imp. bushel was realised. STETNIWO, June 19.-Wheat met a lively denoted, at 21. per qr. advance. Some farmers held out for a sti l further advance Weather, wet; supply short. Other rein steady, and unaltered in value, Wheat, white, 121. 10e. to 132 per load ; red, 101. to W. 10i. ; Barley s 325. to Ms. per qr.; Oats, 20s. to 215. ; Beans, 34.. Peas, 38.. to 40a. StIIDIZIAND, Jane U.-The weather hu been highly fa vourable during the we. k for growing mops, and we have had some heavy rains, especially to. day,with a much lower tempera ture from a brisk north-east wind. The Wheat plant is quite as early es in general seasons ; and last week we saw Wheat shot in several early situations in this neighbourhood. Crops of all kind. maid be desired in a more fi turishing condition. The arrival+ masteries during the wash have been 570 qrs. of Wheat, 600 of Oats, and 295 seeks of Flour. From the farmers to-day we had a tolerable supply of Wheat, which sold readily at the rates of at week. The best Wheats are worth 525. to 545.; good average parcels 435, to 505., and interior qualities 44.. to 463., per qr. ; there is a continued good demand for south countryg a nd fresh foreign Wheat* at these press. Oats are in r, quest, at 21s. to 235. Other kinds of grain are but slow sale, and in price there is no change to note. Flour meets very ready tale, at 375. to 33 3 . for south country, and 3.5. to 36.. firhome-made. SwisiDON, June 19.-To the prospects of an early harvest noticed in our report of the 12th, have succeeded continuous and heavy rains; the showers of the preceding night had an ekeet on the market. Supplies moderately good. A tolerable amount of business was transacted to the best kinds of Wheat, at an advance of from Is. to 2.. per qr., and a like change in some inferior samples in good condition. Barley was nominally quoted. In Beans, Peas, and Outs, there was a tendency to downward prices. The currency was; Heavy woke Wheat, 631. to 555. per qr.; best red, 53s ; inferior, 615. Barley quotable at 355. for best sam ples; other sorts, 303. per qr. best tick Beans, old, 475. ; new, 395. to 45e. Peas the turn cheaper. Oats, best Poland. 255.; secondary Realities, 19.. to 21s. YAKMOUTK, June 17.-We are spin very attahiPT sup plied with Wheat, and, although not much Inquiry for that article, still the trade is firm, and rather more money given for the best parcels. In other art icles we have scarcely any thing doing, and prices may be called the same as last week. Wheat, white, 475. to tfts ; red, 41a. to 465. ; extra, 475. Barley, 28s. to 305. Beans, small, 345. to 363. Peas, 341. to 351. Oats, 225. to 245. per qr. ANCoNA, June 6.-Indian Corn is in demand for Dal matia, and a few hundred quarters have b:en sold at 175. to 17s. 62. per qr. ; the export to that quarter, however, will bo bqt limited. English vessels can be chartered at ss. to 55.61. per qr,, and 10 per cant. primage. DAtazlC, June 10.-On the 7th and Bth a pretty large Wainer was done at our market, say about 500 lasts of Wheat, at somewhat reduced prices considering the improved quality; good high mixed Mho. lower Polish at 385.; 60lbs. inland, 375. ; fine mixed, 611 be , 365. 6d. to 375. • common mixed, 601 1 e., 35.. 61.; and inferior mixed, 601 a., 31s. W. Yester.iay nothing could be plat< dof the over rem timing simples, tits demand at the above rates seeming satisfied ; we therefore, with continued dull reports from British mar kets, should not wonder if next the turn was in favour of buyers, although we find these rates leaving losses to the im porter., some of whom are withdrawing their samples going td granary. Two large vessels have bete chartered for Lon don at Is. 6d. Forty lasts of Peas have been bought at 265. to 275. fie a on board, end will go to England on consignment. GRONINOZN, June 13.-The demand for Wheatcontinnes of n local character ; really line picked samples bring pre vious rates, but low and interior sorts ars almost unsaleable. Barley, Rye, and Buckwheat neglected. Beans and Pees a ready sale at full rates for exportation. Oats come sparingly to hand, and from the cause may be noted 61. per qr. dearer. Rapeseed firm. Freights to Landon and east coast, 15e. to 165., and 10 per cent. per last for Oats. HANIBORO, Juno 13 -The supplies of Wheat continue moderate, and prices are well supported; good 621 h. to 631 b. red fetches 365. 6.11. to 37.. ; fine 631 h. Wahren is held at 38s. G.I. to 395. per qr. on bard. In Baltic Wheat nothing has been done Beale Barley is in better demand, and fetches 6d. to Is. per qr, more than lut week; 511 h. having been sold today, at 225. 6d. per qr. on board; and Mecklenburg, 521 b. to 531 b., at 22a. A cargo of Danish Island, 531 b., was mold at 20s. Si. per qr. free on board; Jutland is offered at 203. Oats are unaltered is price. A cargo of Emden Brew fetched 16s. 6d. per barrel on board there. Beans are also more inquired for, at 275. 6d. for middle, and 28s. 6d. for small. Good boiling Peas are worth 315.; grinding, '27s. to 27e. ; White and red Cloverseed continue to be held firmly at our quotations. Rape Cakes ire not to be had under 95.. to 975. gd per ton, cost and freight. Linseed Cakes continue in demand, at 81. to 84 5.. per ton, including freight. MAISRILLZa, June 13.-So very little has been done at this place in the grain trade of late that it has become almost impossible to give quotatiene. Of Linseed Cskes hardly any stock remains; the last sales were at 61. 5.., and the crushers now ask 61. 125. 6,1 per ton for parcel to be delivered in all July. 'num!, June 5 —Stocks of Indian Corn are now much reduced, and Galati is held for fully 31rr. ; which, however, if our pment very high escbarge keeps up, will n.. 4 cost over 21s. per qr. on board. testerany's asior ,, efs ass ago •. 1 l'EttlAL l'A KLIA All EN HOUSE OF LOILUS.— MONDAY, Jules 19. The LOID Caitscattost took hie seat at 5 °Week. PRIVATE BUSINESS. SECOND READlNG.—lereop's Palate Bill. THIRD READINGS.—Newton'a Estate; Lanark and Hamilton Court.howe and County Rates; Derby Waterwurks Company ; Ent sad West Looe liar our and Bridge; Bills. PUBLIC BUSINESS. SECOND RFADlNO.—Eeclesisstical Clams and Dividers Pariah") (Ireland) Bill. RAILWAYS. Lord REDESDALE, pursuant to notice, Inquired whether it was the intention of the railway commissioners to oppose the introduetion into any private bill of any provisions for altering the gauge of any railway authorised to be con structed by any act which had passed prior to the foaming of the Gauge Act, in 1846 ; whethi r they proposed to bring in a bill in the °resent 'mien to alter and amend the Gauge Act; and whether any report hail been prepared by them upon this subject, or whether they intended to recommend that the consideration of the same should be postponed to the next session of parliament? Earl GRANVILLE was understood to say that there were several bills before parliament eintsining clauses authorising the companies to alter the gauges, which clauses the commissioners would feel bound to oppose. An experi ment wee now going on as to a mixed gauge, and the rail way commissionera would not come to any determination on the subject until that experiment heel been fairly tried. Under present circumstances, they were not disposed to in troduce any bill on the subject. In reply to a question from a NOBLE Logo, whose name we could not learn, Earl GRANVILLE raid that the attention of the railway commissioners had been directed to the subject of the necessity of increasing the number of tuarda on paseen. ger trains, in consequence of the late serious accident at Wolverton; and 31r. Simmonds, one of Oil railway inspec tor', was now in communication with Mr. Hewett on the subject. The commissioners hod no power to enforce such re gulations; but he must do the companies the justice to say that they had attended most readily to any sugeestions which had been made to them by the Railway Board. IRELAND. Lord FARNHAM, in putting a question of which he had given notic. , on the subject of the discontinuance of the drainage of certain works in the county of Cavan, and the dismissal by the Board of Works of the labourers employed thereon, said trat 3,500 persons hal been dismissed at a moment's notice, end this at a time of the year—between the sowing season and the hey harveAt when employment was very difficult to obtain Since the 2Qth of December last no lees than So. 4d. in the pound, by two rata, one of Sc. and the other of 3s. 4d., had been levied on the parish,which was in a most impoverished district. Another rate, therefore, for the relief of those unhappy people could not be made, and he did not see how it was possible that they could be aupp rted. He had that day re ceived a memorial from GOO of these poor nun, accompanied by a certificate from the larchbiehop of the diocese and the magistrates of the localdy, setting teeth their lamentable condition. And he might himself state, as a con.tant resi dent in the district, that during the whole of the time in which the men had been employed on the public works, not 0710 of 'hem had been charged with theft, and their conduct had been most exemplary since their dismissal. He hoped, therefore, the government would raise the money to can tintse the works. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE (who was all but inau dible in the gallery) was understood to say that the govern ment had received information of the stopping of the drain age. The subject was moot interestin.t to the government, and not the lees so on account of the good conduct of the men who had been dismissed. The works in questioa were not, however, carried on by the government grants, but by the Board of Works on the application of particular indivi duals—either public bodies or private individuals; and there had been in this case, unfortunately, a default of payment on the part of those persons. Out of 52,0001, which the works were to cest, only 4,5001. had been raised by private loans, and, therefore, it had become neceaary to stop the works. It was much to be regretted that they should have been stopped et this particular season ; but the board could not have proceeded with these particular works without abstract log the funds from other works in other parts of the coun try. (Hear, hear.) Earl FITZWILLIAM reed the terms of the motion of which he had given notice for Friday next, es pressing the thanks of the house to the executive in Ireland for past measures of relief, and calling on the government foil further leeislation for that country. Lord BROUGHAM doubted the propriety of a vote of panegyric before the Earl of Clarundon's administration had terminated ; but he did not wish to be considered adverse to any such vote when it could with propriety be brought on. Lord MONTEAOLS moved resolutions to the following effect : That the circular letter of the Irish Poor-law Commisionera, dated the 23rd of May, 1818, direct a chwure in practice at Tan ana with the direct provisions of the Ist and 2nd vie., c. 51, sect 53 Of, and the loth Viet., c. 31, net 8, 10 that such a mangein the adminiatration of the law, if shown to be neevaary and extvedient. me only be carried into effect by the authority of the legis lature: that any orders issued, or authority claimed or exercised by an administrative department, Walter or net aside the taw of the land is of dangerous peened sit, and demands the .mowdiste attention of the Dour, ni eapect , it when such orders a.e issued during -he remora, whim the -ease of igirliamsnt might hare wen Mon on the question. The quarter-acre clause in roamed into the last poor law WI not a peculiar nardshM on Ireland; for it was nothing store than what had been the practice in Engiand for a long k THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 20, 1848. raise the capital required by an issue of reference shares at a itiarant batistes& of 10 per gent. He would, if oordps tei t to hum, more that 6 per cent. be substituted for 10 per cant. The SPILIER said the bon. mailman could net make such a motion without giving previous notice. Mr. BERNAL said the remedy for the evil complained of by the hon. member rest.ti with the railway oominiuioners rather than with that house. The bill wee then read a third time and passed. NEW WEFTS. Sir J. PAKINOTON wandrew his motion for the iuue of new writs for the election of members for Derby, Chelten ham, and Horsham, in consequence of the importance of pro ceeding with the debar upon DUTIES. the sugar duties. S Sir J. PAKINOTON said he had given notice of his intention to propose an amendment to the motion that Mr. Speaker do leave the chair fur going into committee on the sugar duties. In consequence, however, of the universal di sa pp ro bation with which the proposal of her Majesty's go vernment had ham received it was his wish to withdraw that motion, in order to move a geneial resolution to the effect —that the rernediivi proposed by hi r Majesty's govern. ment would neither afford relief to the planter nor check the slave trade. Lord J. RUSSELL said the resolutioi. of which the hon. beronet previously gave notice msg. aced an alternative—did he now withdraw the alternative? Sir J. TAKING fON said so much diustiefactiou was evinced with the government measure, that his of was to move t: distinct resolution condemnatory of the proppsi- lion. Mr. CARDWELL upon this suhject wished to ask a question. Considering that the plan of the government in. volved an alteration of the bill of ISO, contemplated changes in the mode of levying the duties, and affected great and important interests, he wished to suggest whether tho house ought to he called on to 0. me to a precipitate decision with respect to it ? The quistiou l.e proposed to ask was, if more time would not be given for consideration ? Mr. E. ELLICE, before the question was answered, wished to express his strung opinion that nothing could add so much to the misery of the West ladies as delay in settling important matter. (Hear, bear ) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the question of a temporary bill had been considered by the go vorument, but they agreed with his right hon. friend behind him, that any delay would be very disastrous to the colonies. He must cake thisopportunity of expressing hisregret that the motion originally proposed by the hon. baronet opposite had been withdrawn. That motion had for its object to carry out the restilu.ion- the only resolution of the committee — namely. that there should be a distinctive duty of 10,. on colonial sugar. The real point at issue was, whether there should he some protection given or nut, and that question might be best dunned and mulled upon the resolution u originally proposed in Oen:. Sir. J. PAKINGTON then 'aid he had to present a Peti tion egret d to that morning by this acting committee of the West India planters and merchants in London. He moved that it be amid by the clerk at the table. The Clerk commenced reading the petition, which set forth that the petitioners had heard with alarm the speech of the Prime Miniver of the Crown on Friday night. The SPEAKER. said this was a reference to words spoken in the house, sad was irregular. The petition could nut be received. Mr. GLADSTONE thought that was a proper opportu nity to notice the frequent occurrence of an irregularity in their proceedings. Ministers came down there and made proposals without laying any papers or resolutions upon the table. It was consequently i.opeasible for the public to know fully what they intended to do, and, as in the present case, they were debuted from referring to the subject other wise than in an irregular form. After some other observations, Sir J. PAK INOTON withdrew the petition. COLONIAL AFFAIRS. Mr. ANSTEY said he wished to renew a question he had put the other night respecting correspondence from Van Diemen's Land. Ile had then made inquiries respecting certain recent transactions of an extraordinary character in that colony; and he was told that the government bad no information upon the subject. Two mails bed since arrived, and be wished to inquire what correspondence had been re ceived and what the government intended to do? Mr. B. HAWES said it. war very unfair to go into this question so repeatedly when the government had distinct ; y declared that the only accounts they had received from the colony related to but one pert o' the subject. All he could say was that be had remind no further ieformation. - Mr. ANSTEY.—Then, sir, upon the lint occasion of going into committee of supply I shall call the attention of the house to the conduct or the Lieut.-Governor of Van Diemen's Land. Mr. HUME 'eked if any provisio t was made far the admi nistration of justice is Vin Diemen's Land, in consequence of these disputes Mr B. HAWES said lie had really no further informa tion. He was wholly unable to answer. What was the state of the colony he did not at all know. (Loud laughter.) Mr. HUME —All I eon say is that it is very caul that priests letters should have been rueived by everybody, giving all the par iculars of those transactions and that the Colonial-office, nevertheless, should know nothing about them. I do not say i: is, but it looks like, gross neglect. (Maeh cheering.) Mr. GLADSTONE asked if the Coloniel.offiee intended to lay before the house any papers relative to the colony of the Cape ? Th. y had heard nothing respecting. that colony since the termination of the Kiffir war. Mr. B. HAWES sold he bteieved there were some paper almost ready, hut he would enquire, and reply to mirrow. Mr. V. SMITH asked if the return' promised him rela tive to colonial expenditure were ready ; and it his hon. friend (Sir W. Molesworth) would inform the house what would be the precise words of his motion relative to colonial affairs? Sir W. MOLESWORTII would state the terms of his nietioa to-morrow. Mr. B. HA WES said he believed VA returns alluded to were partially ready ; some of them perhaps were not so; some his hon. fri,nd could obtain Letter from another de partment ; but he really could not exactly say when they would be all pmelueed THE UNPRODUCED DESPATCHES. Mr. B. HAWES the n said that he wished to make a very short statement respecting something that had fallen from the noble lord, the member for King's Lynn, on Friday night. The effect of the noble lord's observation was List his (Mr. B. Hawes's) noble friend, Earl Grey, had withheld a very important dispatch that ought to have been produced to the West India committee. Now he (Mr. Hawes) was examined before the West Inila committee on the 5th — he was not sure, but he thought it was—the sth of May, and he then said that a despatch was preparing. That despatch was the despatch in question. The noble lord, however, de clared on Friday that this despatch had been withheld in tentionally. Ile had, th.refore, brought down to the house the original despatch with the minutes upon it, which were mid. at the time it was received. The despatch arrived on the 27th of March. It reached his hands that day with the foltowing minute upon it. "This is the dc spatch t,r which the West India committee have asked. Would it not be better to send theme copy of it? If so it might bedcsirable to sendit to-day." On the OMB day (the 27th) he (Mr. B. Hawes) added Io writing his assent—" I agree." Those words ap peared in his own hand. On the 30th the despatch came to him again, with these words in the handwriting of Earl Grey; "Thu may be laid before the committee as sug gested." He (Mr. B. Hawes) was not aware before the noble lord stated it the other night that the d 'patch had not been laid before the house as directed. Ile had made it his beeli ne,' to inquire why the directions so clearly given were nut followed. He was told that on the 281 h March a despatch was sent to the committee. This desprch, however, wee st Mined two or three days to prepare an answer. When it returned to the proper &pal tment they omitted to send it. lu the way of excuse it might certainly he stated that the unprecedented number of papers sent to the committee from the Colonial-office was same ground for the omission. Bat what he wa.,ted to do was, to show that it was the clear, decided intention of his noble friend and of himself to produce this despatch from the first moment they received it. Delays in the production of other papers bad been men- tioned. He believed, however, that he had laid those piper upon the table at the earliest possible moment, and he thought that he had conclusively shown that he had had no intention of withholding e despatch particulatly ice question. [Lord G. Bentinck entered the house just as the right hon. gee.th man had concluded his statement.] MR. II USIE'S MOTION. Mr. FREWEN asked whether, if the debate of to night sheuld be adj•iiirn«l, the hon. member for Montrose would not, in consideration of the importence of the question, give the adjourned debate vecedenee to-morrow ? Mr. 11U ME—lt is certainly my intention to proceed with my motion which stands upon the paper for to-morrow, and nothing whatever, so far as 1 am concerued, shell prevent me. (Hear, hear.) THE SUGAR DUNES. The SPEAKER tbr ti pia: the quebteun that the order of the day lie non r. ad, whereupon Mr. E. ELLICE rose aed said that the deep and painful interest the state of our colonies had excited, must excuse his interfering by endesvosrieg to extract from her Majesty's government some further information with respect to their intentions as to our colonies. Sir J. PAKINGTON here interposed, and said that as he bed tie:Kuhn notice of motion upon the paper, he thought he ought to be permitted to proceed with it. He appealed to the right hon. gentleman. Mr. E. ELLICE said his particular object was to prevent the hon. baronet from re iving his amendment. (Loud laughter.) Before he voted 011 J way or another, he wished for further explanations. lie regarded the question as a far wider one than they could debate upon the words of the amendment before them. The state of our West Indian colonies was unparalleled in the history of the world. The remedy proposed was a very small one. They pro "lento lend 500,0001. to tho West Indies. By d," he concluded they meant " give," for they must be well aware that there was no chance of repayment. if they did ler.d, all he could my was, that money would never be lent fur a more melees purpose or with less chance of ever getting it back again. (Hear, hear.) But what he wished them to regard was, the probable temper in which this project of the government would be received in the West Indies. What feelings would it not excite ? Establishments in Jamaica, in British Guiana, and elsewhere, could of course nu longer be maintained after this news arrived. They would be thrown up. The owners would be engulphed in a common ruin. Under such einem strunces, let him ask. wh at did the eovernment propose to do if such were the effect of these resolutions, what did hie noble friend propose to do ? As things already etood,mrhat was the Nekton of public affairs in Demerara ? The eouecil that a:mealed to the co!..cia! gteernment for a redo don of 26 per cent. in the salaries of the officials of the colony, on the very reasonable plea that with reduced WADS they could not maintain their former expenditure. earl Orey released to listen to this appeal. What was the tons queue / That the colony had refereed any farther supplies lentil thole grievances were redeemed. (Hear, hear.) Ills noble friend might rely tarpon it that a similar respect would very email', be presented by all our other West India colo nies. (Hear, hear.) For the last two years the expenses of Jamaica had come out of the pock. is of our merchants, but this could not continue. (lieu, hear.) The total ex penre of the government of Jamaica, it appeared. was 300,0001 per Menem, of which 36,0001. went in the eoLection of the revenue done—(hear, hear)—while 65.0001. was spent in civil salaries, 23,0001. in judicial, and 30,0001. in siestioal. Did hie noble friend imagine that this enormous ezpendfture would bo much longer borne by the impove rished colonists ?—(hsar, bear)—and if he did not suppose this, how did be intend to keep up the establishments of the colony, or did he Intend to keep the colony at all ? (Hear, hear.) Ile wholly objected to the prepoeed grant of 500.0001; even supposing the colonist* would take the motley, which he did not believe they would, ha regarded the prin. ciple invele.d as altogether unsound. At thie moment, numbers of the less favourably situated rotors in our West India colonies were wholly abandoned, and the cultivation of a great many more was en the point of being given up. It was just postible that by the application without delay of some ju. Henn remedy, by the better adjustment of the de mand and supply of lairur, the estates not absolutely given up might yet he retained in cultivation, and the coloured population he saved from involvement in that ruin which had fallen upon the white, but do what they might, the pre• sent proprietors were almott to a m n irretrievably ruined. ((Hess, hear.) His noble friend In the course of his epee eh on Friday had, adopting the theory prevalent at the C. lonia]. office, where the impression seemed to be that the W. at India planter , were a reckless improvident race, who knew nothing of their business, which the Colonial•uffice Ruh was alone competent to conduct—( hoer, hear)—his noble friend bad echoed the cry that the West India planters bad hr. ught ruin upon thee own beads by their extravagance. The in vestigations of the recent committee, however, had at once shoe' n that the nostrums of the Colonial-utiles were wholly inapplicable, and that the Writ Indians, an far from being chargeable with reckless waste fulnees, had applied the utmost core, and eco nomy of management, to the attempted preservation of OUT property. (lieu, hear.) Every new improvement in cultivation, every new machine heard been earnestly adopted, hut to no effect, and the evidence showed that many of these unfortunate men, driven to &email. in our own colonies, had transferred their energy, thee skill, and their machines, to Cuba and other foreign colonies, which held out to them some prospect of en existence. (Hear, hear.) Already we were informed, the proportion of the white to the coloured population in our West India colonies had been reduced to 71 per cent., and this small nuinher was becoming daily smaller, by the withdrawal, in utter de spair, of English families. Unless soma very decided steps were taken in the way of relief, there would, ere long, be no white population at all left in the colonies — (hear, hear)—and the whole of the little trade that would then remain there, falling into its natural channel, would reeolve itself into an exchange of respective products between the block population of the West Indies and the northern states of America. (Hear.) What did his noble friend mean to do about the heavy salaries that were now paid to official personages in these colonies? Did be think that they would long continue to pay their governors 7,0001. a year a piece? (Haar, hese.) Depend upon it the wholes stem must be chdage d, or the whole thing given up. (Hear, hear.) Much and deservedly as many, he might gay all, of these governors were reepected,.valu .ble as were the serviceso-to mention particular instance—of Lord Harris and of Sir Charles (key, his noble friend might rely u; on it that if their present salaries were to he continued, they must be paid at the table of that house. (Ile ar, hear.) And nut only as to salaries must the system undergo a thormAh change. There must be a cessation el that eternal interfereneet ou the part of the home government in every pe ty detail of local ad ministration which had so long oppressed and ant rood the colonists. (Hear, hear.) The colonists mud. be permitted to manage their own local affairs, by their own local repre sentatives fairly elected, under the direction of their own governors, elected by th. melees, and remunerated by such salaries as might be agreed upon between them, (Hear.) He mewed with his noble friend that the day. of protection —as protection—were gone by ; but he thought, at the same time,thet—peculiarly in sucha periidof general crisis as this— somewhat of a more conciliatory policy was required towards our West India colonies. (Hear, hear.) lie entreated hi. noble friend to give some explanation of his farther views with regard to these colonies; for, as to himself, lie would say that, while despised wherever possible to support hi. noble friend, he conld not sc.clion these resolutions until be dad heard a much more satiefactory arnount of his noble friend's further police on the milieu.. I lieu, hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL said he did not consider it expedient to make the statement required by his right hon. friend un til the honourable baronet opposite had brought forward the amendment of wh ch he had given notice. Having heard the arauments of the hon. berenet, he would Rive the fullest esolanation he was prepared to tiler of the views of the sputum nt in relation to the resolutions be. Pre the house. Ile would not now reply to the various points suggested in objection by his right lion. friend, who did not seem to have made us his mind which course to pursue, because this woolwoull be irregularly to antici pate distension. His right hon. friend, he would just observe, seemed to conceive that the 600,0001 loan was to be an anniial grant ; whereas it was only to he one loan of 500,000, and even if lost to the state, would only he a loss at 4 per cent, of 20,0001. a year, not more than equivalent to the reduction of duty proposed on the other aide. As to the amendment of the hon. baronet opposite, the hon. gentleman had, since Friday, made a change in it which, were the amendment adopted, w-uld place the West ladies as well as parliament in a very em barrassing position. The amendment as it stood on Friday, was to the si.nple and intelligible effect, of inceraeing West India protection from 6s. to His , by continuing the foreign duty at 205., and reducing the colonial duty to 10s. Ile would not say that this proposition was wise or politic, but at least it was plain and straig:eferward, whereas, the pro position before the house, eve lently prepared by the hon. hart. in despair of carrying either the one or the other, wan neither plain nor practice!, and could have no other purpose than that of embarrassing the government. One word more; his right hon. friend had complained of his imputing extravagance to the \Vest Delia planters, and had ch tract him with acting upon an alleged theory of the Colonial office, that the Colonial .office could manage the estates of the planters better than they could do it themselves. Now he would beg to inform his right hon. friend that he had not derived his idea on the subject from the source suggested, but from the evidence before the West, India committee, where he found one planter, Mr. Toll.mache, s sting that having himself gone over to the West Indies to look into his affairs, he had at once effected a raving of 1,0001. per mnum in the expenditure upon one estate—(hear, her— by a thorough revision of the system of " perquisite , " which had before prevailed. lie stated that the merchants here had no idea of the amount expended in this way, for the whole of such expeniiture war pot under the head of wages, the " wages," however, including in reality the cost of a host of men, women, and animas, in no way requisite for the legitimate purposes of the estate, and maintained solely for the personal convenience of the officials employed upon it, such at the attorney, the manager, the overseers, and so on. As to his right hon. friend's notion about giving the coleteies representatives elected by universal suffrage, be conceived his right hon. friend to be alto gether in error on the point. He doubted whether, in Trinidad for instance, the election of a body of repre sentatives by the wind° population, bring " males of lull age," and including of c..urse every nt gro who hail been a year on the island, would not introduce some rather diffi cult problems into the government of the colony. Mr. ELLICE sal -I he had mode use of no eepression which caul I at all justiiy the last observation of his noble Issued. ill. nr, hear.) Sir J. PAK INOTON then rose to move, pursuant to notice, That this house, considering the evidence taken during the present session before LI select coiniitivesis of opinion that the remedies pro. posed by her liijivity's government for the great distress of the aura, growlag possessions of the crown, and which that entunittre has said will require the immediate application of relief, will neither effect that object nor check the stimulus to the slave trade which the diminution tat the cultivation of sugar in those colonies has inevitably occasioned. He denied that, in proposing this amend neat, he was ac mated by any party fe etieg whatever. All he desired won, to save Out West Indian colonies from the destruction with which they were thee as. net. lie had merely altered the Gans of his motion I emus entertaining n decided objection to the government measure himself, he had, upon considera tion, deemed it expedient to seek from the hou e a dist( ct expresaien of its emini in on the etibe et. (lieu, hear.) This was no question between protection ants free trade • it was a question to .ding on considerations peculiar to If,itse and he looked for , uprort alike to the free-trader and to the protec tionist. (H. ar, !tear 1 here woe no one who more de cidedly approved of the meaner,' of 1831 than he did. What lie sought to counteract, an far as possible, was the li gialation which had sense glumly t.ken pine: with ref. rrnce to our West India interests, as well under the pre: cut government as under its prole cesium (Heir, bear.) Ile did net com plain ef emar.cipation, bet he complained that ell the pledg.s to the West Indians which had accompanied emancipation had been violated. (Hear, hear.) The whole series of legislation for the West Indies, up to the coup de grace inflicted in 1846, had been utterly monstrous. Toe noble lord opposite, however, had repea'edly declared his firm resolution to abide by the act of 1846. He made that declaration emphatically when the noble member for Lynn moved for his committee, and he repeated it, as emphatically, so recently as the .19th of May, distinctly stating that whereas the West India com mittee recommended that the differential duty should be continued for a certain period beyond that fixed by the act of 1846, the government did not intend to propose any change in the act of 1846, with the view either of in creasing the amount of differential duties, or of continuing thathetg fearful overn ti t iehTt,re,hetilfnoorwucaeihrni them fur a longer period than that fixed by the act in ques tion. This was so recently as the 20th May last ; yet on Friday last the noble lord crme down to the house and proposed a plan which, whatever might be thought by various partite of its merits, every ono must admit to be a material deviation from the act of 1846. (Hear, near.) While deeming it right to ask the noble lord why this deviation had been made, he could not but congratulate the friends of our West Indian colonies on the obvious fact that government had found it absolutely necessary to make the change. (Hear, hear.) He himself could attribute the change to no other consideration than that the evidence Is:- wt i th o h w eet n thco7 t : h ed e t otree c rt u ehe l colonis ts, o n coa is atlh ts te. fore the committee was of such a nature, se conclusive as to was came e m i h o t wei ghing ent d i mpossi b leh questionmin aet a Pi r ot--8111sed b6 , y. ther is wee led even mitigate the distresses which afilioted Deem, He would not thee details the house ley en quiring why it was that government had thought fit to pro *set the period of closing the duties to 1851 batted of to 1851. Nor would he atop to in- quire what reason had induced them to think it better that the duties should clue at 10 per cwt., rather than, as In the set of 1846, it Its per cwt. Every one must feel that this cheer, weeper eve of its hearing on the present distress, undoubtedly involved very imeortant financial considerations, and therein reflected upon the right hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer quite as much blame as he had sought to twit upon the noble int m her for an immediate reduction of the duties however, possibly thought that he mi g ht not be in office in o L n yn ourn fo r eo proposin g loal sugars. The violet hon. gentleman, 1881, and that be should only be bequeathing to a successor the large defect in the sugar duties which must in evitably result front his plan. (Meer, and a laugh.) He was driven to the conclusion that the proposd of the government was wholly unequal to enable the West Indies to struggle with their increasing distresses, or to compete with the slave colonies; and he was enabled to prove the latter half of his assertion by comparing the present condi tion of the British West Indies wall the Brazils and other slave-lahour settlements. He would refer to the evidence of Mr. Tollemache, than whom no gentlemen had spoken more taint; before the West Indian committee : and what was the statement ot that witnt es? He says that he enter tained hopes at some future day, by co in the coulee the colonists were pursuine, that the cost of producine sugar would he reduced to 15s. 6d. a cwt. But elr Tollemache stated further, that even at that reduced cost of production the freight and charges would prevent him term laying down a cargo of sugar in London at less than 225. Old, par ewt. Looking at that statement, and taking into conside ration the pries that had ruled of late in the sugar market, the minimum of which was 225. per cwt., how was it possible for a planter who, under the most favourable circumstances, could not bring his sugar to market under 225. a cwt. to compete with a Brazilian planter, who can offer his produce in the London warehnuee at las. a cwt? In fact, says Mr. Tollemache, it is impossible for the free labour planter under his pre'. nt circumatasices to compete with slave labour sugar growers. There were also other witnesses who spoke to the question of cost of produc tion before the committee, the remelt of whose testimony he would shortly recapitulate. In Jamaica the average cost of producing sugar, ascertained from an examination of 138 estates was 225. 7d. • cwt.; another witness, Mr. Green, stated it to be 22s fhl.; Mr. Hiegisson newt it at 29a. 21. ; and a fourth wiener, Mr. Miles, considered the coat of pro duction in that island, to average 23a. a cwt. The mean cost of the production of sugar, taking the various statements into consideration, was 1/. ss. 01. ; and Sir C. Grey, in the important despatch which was alluded to the other night (a laugh) stated it to be his opinion, that the permanent cost of producing • cwt. of suoar in Jamaica was 305., and that unless the planter could reckon upou that the cultivation of sugar would cease in that colony. Such wee the deliberate opinion of Sir C. Grey, himself • free trader. (Hear, hear.) Lord Harris, writing from Trinidad, states the cost of producing a cwt. of sugar at If. Os. fel. Another witness', at 32.. 6x!., and a third, at 285., the ave rage cost being for Trinidad 275. 10d. In B h Guiana the average cost was 255. Bd, And the general average of ail the British Welt India colonies, including Jennies, St. Vin cent's, Trinidad, Barbadoes, Bt. Kitt's, and Guiana, gave the amount of 224. Bd. as the mean cost of pro-hieing a ewt. of sugar. Now, what on the other hand did they fi n d, from evidence brought before the West India commit tee, was the coat of producing • cwt. of sugar in the slave colonies ? In Cube the cost of production was 6s. 814.; in Porto Rico, 51. 2d.; and in Bahia, Bs. 9.1. a owt., giving a mean for these three slave colonies of Go lOW. per cart. This sum, as compared with 22a. Bd., the cost of production in the British West Indies, :eft the amount of 15s. 9(d. as the difference between the cost of sugar in tie two countries respectively. The calculations into which he had entered were a, essential towards establishing the ease of the British planters, that he must call the particular attention of the government to them. His argument was, that so long as there exiteed a difference of 1.5 e. 91d. between the cost of produeing sugar by free labour end by clove labour, so long would it be impossible for the British West Indies to compete, under s differential duty of 7s. only, with Cobs, the Brazils, or other slave sugas-growing colonic*. He bad theretore a right to assert that it was impossible, by means of the government proposi teen, to afford an adequate protection to the British West Indian colonies. Another thing the planters had a right to complain of was the et anner in which the act of 1t(46 had been carried int 3 operation. The government had stated that it was a great experiment, but if an, why not at the male time take measuress to glee the experiment fair play ? Why not have affoded tee planters the me .nt of procuring abundance of labour k That was the indispensable condition attached to the sue -erful cultivation of sugar in the British colonies. The negro and the planter had charged positions during the last ten years in those velem ins. The negro was the easy man ; the planter the op press d and ruined man. Why had not tree government taken precautions against vagrancy and squatting in the Wee Indian islands Nothing bad been done by way of assisting the British planters to compete with the Brazilian and Cuban slave-holders. lle admitted that recently Earl Grey had proposed some regulations, whereby free lab Auer, were to b • sent to the We et Indies, emieistisig of the captured Africans- a eye tern which was liable to groat al uses. But this was rot the question which was before the house. He would not at that moment enter into any detail of the losses experienced by the sugar planters in the British colonic.. Al the witnesses examined before the committee concurred in the opinion that it was impossible for them t t carry on the cultivation of sugar at present prices. One wit ness stated a fact which was quite startling, as to the deprecation of property in the West Indies. The estate of Mulgr ive sold for 25,00 W. in the year 1843. The sum of 10,0001. was spent upon it, after it was sold, and in April of the present year the same estate was put up ag do to sale, and the price it realised was 2,8001. Lie king, their fore, at the facts which had been stated before the West India committee, he had a right to ass, rt that these ewes were principally due to the act of 1846. Since that act had passed, 18 of the principal merchants connected with the West Indies bee become bankrupts; unit the present state of things continued, other houses mast fall victims to the same melancholy fate. Would the house permit him to cell their attention is the state of affairs in the Maureen? S r George Larpent, in his evidence before the committee, stated that, acting in the full belief that the legislature sanctioned the course they adopted, the merchants connected with !Mauritius suddenly found themselves deprived of protection ; and thus, at the moment when they were recovering from former losses, they found themselves suleected to a fresh blow, which they could not sue vive. The same witness sated that the cost of producing sugar in the Mauritius was 20s, 10.1. a cwt. ; how could the planters there compete with the slave colonies of Brazil and Cuba ? The consequences of these changes had been to . bring ruin urea seven great mercantile housen whose prin cipals were men of the highest integrity ' and honour. Amongst those gentlemen were their late col. leagu• s, Sir Jotn Roe Reid, Sir George Larpent, and Mr. Barclay, all members of that house, and holding a high peel- Con in it. He could not refrain from expressing the ptin which ha felt in seeing men such as these involved in ruin by the melancholy state of things caused by the changes intro- duced into the sugar duties by the legislature. Let him refer to the state of things in the East Indies. The produc. Lion of sugar had been gradually going on in that country from 183,5 to 1845, when the quantity gent from thence to England amounted to 1,520,114 cats. The cost of producing sugar was, in Bengal, 2 Aa, and at Madras '23.. per ewe.; and how, when the -oat of transport was added, could these sugars compete at such prices with Brazilian and Cuban sugars in the English market ? All the authorities, includ ing the governors of the West Indian colonies, agreed in opinion that it was impouble at the present coat of labour there for free labour sugar to compete with the sugar sent from Brazil and Cuba. The hon. member here quoted the opinions expressed in the despatches of Lard Harris, Governor Reid, Sir C. Grey, Governor Higginson, and 0 evorner Light, all of whom coincided in representing the state of the planters in the British West Indian colonies as most pitiable. In looking ' at thequestionet was also advisable to take into consideration what toe relative proportion of exports to the British We et Indent colonies was in the years preceding and subsequent to the alteration ot the sugar duties in 1846. Berne, the editor ot the " Commercial Glance," says that the value of the ex ports of manufactured goods during the 19 montlisprevious to the alteration of the sugar duties in 1816, was 5,958,5541. Whereas 19 months after the sugar duties were altered the value of exports was 4,856,2861., showing a decrease in the ezp 'Ms to the same colonies within the period of 19 months atter the act of 1846 was passed amounting to no leas than 1,123,2681. The same statistical return reports that the ex port of cotton manufactures to the slave colonies during the 19 months previous to 1846 were valued at 2,490,7771., whilst during 19 months subsequent to 1816 they had risen to 2,916,1511, showing an increase in that branch of export of 455,3511. But comparing the value of the ex perts to the slave colonies with those to the Bri tish colonies, there was a belance against the menu fecturer of no less than 676,8411., resulting from the diminished consumption of British manutactures in the West Indies in consequence of the present state of affairs. The question then came to be considered whether the con sumer was t enetited by the chug: ; and he had no holm tem in asserting that when the cultivation of sugar in the British colonies was exeineuished the Bruzilian a-.d other slave colonies would obtain the monopoly, aid the price would become very materially increased. He must now turn, and he did so with great pain and humiliation, to the great teature of the subject, which related to the slavery question. (Hear.) He had stated on Friday night that it was with feelings of astonishment almost amounting to indignation, that he had heard the prime minister make his statement without one word of allusion to the subject of slavery. But, on reconsideration, his surprise ceased, for believing the noble lord oppo'ite to be a sincere advocate for uegro free dom, he must have felt great difficulty in touching upon the subject, more especially when he was aware that the prophecies uttered in 1846 respecting the increase of slavery, which was certain to follow on the sugar duties bill of that year, had all been fulfilled. The first witness he should call to prove his statement that slavery had increased was the noble lord the Foreign Secre tary, who stated before the committee, that the number of ' slaves imported into the slave colonies, in the year 1846, was 55,000, and as many in 1847, making • tot I of 110,000 slaves in those two years; whilst in the years 1844 and 1845, the average number of slaves imported into Cuba and Brazi's was only 32,000 a year. There were ether returns, which gave the number of 75,000 slaves as having been im ported into the slave colonies since the year 1846. From this evidence he thought he was justified in assuming that the effect of the act of 1846 had been t o double the im portation of slaves in Cuba and Brazil. (Rear, hear.) But, Many confirmation were wanted, it might be had is the re turns of the exports of machinery to those countries during the last few years. In 1844 the value of the exports to Cuba was 6,5721.. and to Brazil, 17,5051. From that time a gradual 'novenas had been going on, until in 1847 it amounted to- Cuba, 17,6641. ; Brazil, 35,1531. (Hear, hear.) Ile usual now refer to what he considered the most important evidence that had been given before the committee. Captain Mat son, of the royal navy, cn being examined, a man of great experience in these matters, had stated, that in hie opinion the admission of slave grown sugar had increased the importation of slaves LIR* Cuba sad Brasil very mu c h, Capt. Matson stated that he was at Havana when the remis sion was announced, and that the news created a feeling of universal joy ; the mice of slaves and of land ii creased at once, end a general jub lee seemed to prevail throughout the island. In describing the mode in which the slaves were transported from the coast of Africa, Capt. Matson stated that they were packed close, doubled up, and generally in irons. The general calculation wee that if a captain ex pected to land 300 slaves, he must ship 500, the diffeeence being generally cleared off by to weeding" during the ' passage. The explanation of this nal, that the most practised eye could not always distinguish the healthy from the diseased previous to shipment, but the first 48 bourn at sea decided the matter by carrying off the latter. (lie u .) As a general rule those who stood oat the first 48 hours were landed alive. (Hear, hear.) One great cause of this drea iful mortality was the diminutive saga of the vessels employed in the trade, a remarkable instance of which was mmtioned by Capt. Metion,—that of a shipment of 427 laves is a vessel of only 49 tons burden. (lie ir ) lie (Bir J. Pakington) might perhaps be told that these horrors went no novelties. He was sorry to say th,t there was a femme of novel y in these details, and that wu,that the wholeof the circumstances detailed by Capt. Matson, were now going ne under the unction of the government of this country. (Pro. tectionist ckeers.) He did not impute the crime ot mtentioa to the government ; but he implored tho noble lord at the head or :hat government to pause and caneider whether any other conclueion could be drawn from the statements he (Sir J. Pakington) had made, than that the legislation of ligt had given new lite to the abominable slave trade, with all its attendant horrors. (Hear, hear.) Why, previous te I that year the slave trade to Cuba had almost ceased. (Hear, hear.) The greater length of the voyage and difficulty e( transport rendered a more expensive class of vessels neces sary, and it was in consequence declining; but the legislation of 1846 gave it a fillip, and it was at the present moment going on with as great vigour as ever. Ihe treatment of the slaves after their arrival at Cuba was also a point which must not be overlooked in considering the question. Capt Matson stated that they were yen .11y kept at work fur 18 hours out of the 24, being goaded during the latter hours with tee lash, and hunted by dogs to keep them together in the fields. (Hear, hesr.) lie would next pro- ceed to call the attention of the house to the reports which had been sent home by British consuls in shire cohnies. Mr. Morgan wrote from Rio Orlando thst the v. owls were coming in there every day with slaves, under the sanction of the authorities, who received a lvmus of horn 10 to 15 do:la's oa each one land d. From B.hia, Mr. Porter wrote that the importation had nearly doubled during the lot year • and the governor of Sierra Leone stated that, notwith standing the vigilance of our cruisers, the traffic between that place and the Havana was etramous'y on the increase. (Hear, h. ar.) Ile thought he had now said and quoted euough to prove that the prophecies of 1846 had been ftd filled, and that the results of the measure of that year, however little such results might have been desired by government, had been to give a great impulse to slavery and the slave trade. He regretted to have to nb.erve trat the noblt lord at the head of the government had not thought fit even to allude to those subjects in his openine speech, but is conse quence of the indignation expresse by several hon. mem bers who followed him had subsequently found it necessary to say something which was not at all satisfactory, being merely the expres-ion of his hope and lithe( that the mea sures of governms nt would tend to place the planter in such a position as would enable him to enter into a Mir competi. Mon with slave Labour, and to prevent the continuaneeof the detestable traffic in slaves. He (Sir J. Pakington) trusted that the result of their deliberations wouid to consistent with the principles which this country hod adopted with re ference to the slave trade, and such a', while they preserved our colonies, would redound to the honour of the sovereign and people of this country. (Cheers.) • -- Sir E. N. BUXTON, in rising to second the amendment of the hon. baronet, must at the same time take leave to deny that the abolition of the apprenticeship system gave the colonists any additional claim on the mother country. In his opinion the policy which was most consistent with jus. tics and humanity was that contained in the act of 1844, which wholly excluded anus the produce of slave labour. Against that policy it bad been urged that we were only driving the slave grown sugar to the continental markets. He I acknowledged that there was some force in that argement, but be believed that it we had persisted in the exclusion recent events on the continent would have given us great opportunities of making it influential there as well as in this country. tinder present circumstances he believed that the only course would be to adopt the amendment of his hon. friend. His boo. friend had so completely exhausted the subject that it would be unnecessary for him to trouble the house at any length, but there was one despatch of Lord Harris to which he could not help alluding. Lord Harris said it was painful to see men waiting she ruin which was sure to overtake them, and labouring without hops, because their labour was sure to go unrequited. The remedy proposed for this state of thing. by got. rninent was emigration; but had emigration now been heard of for the first time? Why, since the project bad first been conceived, upwards of 80,000 free labourers bad been imported into out culmics; and the result proved how inadequate was the remedy. Lord Hems was opposed to immigration as hitherto carried on, but re commended its continuance at the expense of the individual parties requiring the slaves, instead of making it a charge on the colonial revenues. Having read some turther quotations to the same effect, the hon. baronet proceeded to say that it i seemed to him, looking simply at the condition ot the West Indies, that the policy of this country had been too change able, and that the principles of tree trade should have beta applied to them with greater caution. Tie great guts- Uun was, whether, after all the efforts and all the sacrifices of the last forty years to abolish slavery and the slave trade, we were for the futare to depend for our supply ot sugar on coloni' s where both were carried on is the most brutal manner the world had ever witnessed. During the last year we had imported 44,000 tons of KIM from Cuba ; and, looking at the orders which had recently gone out to our own coloeies to stop cultivation, it was not too much to expect that the importation would reach 100,000 tons next year, and soon until that island and Brazil would moneplise our whole supply. That would be a serious calamity, and one for which, in his opinion, no xcuse could be found in the necessities of this country. (Hear, bear) The produce of our colonies had always been equal to the demand, and during last year was 40,000 tons more than had been during any previous year. Lard J. RUSSELL—That was under the act of 1846. (Hear, hear.) Sir E. N. BUXTON—Yes, but the free trade measures could hardly have acted so soon. He had taken his present course with some regret. He admitted the necessity of sup plying the labouricg classes in this country with all their necessaries at the lowest possible puke, but he believed that if the people hid the question fairly put to them—if they were told that their cheap sugar was purchased with the life blood of their fellow-creature!, tney would reject the boon with disdain. (Having quoted Mr. Calhoun and the Isle Dr. Channiiig's opinions on the subject of slavery and the slave trade) the hon. baronet said, in canclusion, that the House of Commons had in 1846 pissed an act under the im preasion that it would not aggravate the eorrors of the slave trade. They had been disappointed in their expectations; it was acknowledged on all hinds that under the operation of that act the trade was un the increase, and therefore hip trusted that on the present occasion they would not hesitate to retrace their step, end, as far as in them lay, prevent the evil consequences of their error. (Cheers.) The amendment having been put, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER complained that neither the mover nor seconder of the amendment had explained what means of relief they proposed fur th:: West India limiter, or what amount of protection they would sub- White for that which the resolutions of the government would establish. The hon. baronet (Sir J. Pekington) having given notice of the terms of his aruendine.nt, had twice changed his mind, and had now put it in a shape in which he thought it might succeed iu catching a few stray votes. (Hear, hear.) Ilia hoe. friend (Sir E. N. Buxton) said fairly enough that he would totally exclude slave grown sugar. (Hear, hear.) His hon. friend contended that when emancipation passed in 1834, the house and the country en tered into a compact with the West Lelia colonists that they should have twenty millions paid to them as compensation, together with the perpetual monopoly of the British market. He admitted that if the imperial le gislature chose to deprive the West le,dia proprietors of their slaves, it was hound to give them lull compensation; but he remembered that Lard Stanley argued at the time that the compensation which was given was full and ample. Parliament had since decided against Rhine to the West Indies a perpetual monopoly of the British n.arke, and against the permanent maintenance cf a high protective duty. If there had bean a contract entered into iu 1834 to gra..t such a monopoly of the market it was broken, as his hon. friend behind him bed stated, by tne act of 1804, which, according to the present Lord Harrowby, who moved the celebrated resolution of 1841, did, by °reedit.: our market to the sugars of Java and other foreign sugar-gr Awing countries, encourage the import of slave-labour sugar in the market of Hamburg; anti only last year no less than 3,000 tons of sugar were adaiieted from slave-growing COUtltriell into Eng land, which we were compedect to admit by our treaties under the act of 1844. He did not mean to say that the act of 1846 had not given a further encouragement to slave labour sugar. (Hear, hear.) But if they were to stand on the contract, be must contend that the first infraction of the principle of discouraging slave-grown sugar was to be found in the act of 1844, and those who su; ported that act were not now in a position to turn round on the proposition of ministers, because it might in its rcralta encourage the import of slave-labour sugar. The grounds on which the act of 1841 was brought forward, as stated by the then Chancellor ot the het:eerie( r (Mr. Goulburn), himself a West India proprietor, were tie insufficient supply of colonial sugar, and the consequent high price . now, how ever, it was contended by the hon. baronet (Sir J. Faking ton) that it hail always produced a supply sufficient for the deu.ands of this country. It any one would compare the present oonsumpUon with that a few years bock, he would see that a more monstrous proposition had never been put forward. (Hear, hear.) In 1840 the consumption was 179,000 tons ; in 1842 it was 193,000 tons: end loot year it was 289,000 tons; an increase of more thin 110,010 tons in seven years, and 96,000 in the last five sews. (Hear.) Comparing this increase with that of the population, it was evident that the supply was not adequate to the consumption in 1840 and 1812. When the bill of 1846 was proposed, there was scarcely any person in the house except those who voted with the noble lord (O. Bentinck) who did not distinctly avow that the prin ciple of permanent protection as against slave labour sugar must be given up. The right hues. hem the member for Tamworth made that avowal distinctly ; and the hon. member for Leominster Beady) declared that he was ler free trade in supra . ' as lie mid been Isar • a c trade in corn, it being understood that protection should be continued for a time in order to enable the colonists to m.,ke wants to compete with other sugar-growing couatries. ans re was en titled to mime, therefore, from what and occurred in n Terence to the ins , 4 jority of the hour 1313414111 t proration. bad aomewhat Owl stpOrt slaves al 110 beieved it woe ex ported from the ceeded the numb( export during the la< labour production. failed ; and was n, now taking—the fin , the ohject—that the under the operation With regard to the i co mmittee on the co l ut B o, 0 14 p zuu t baronet's lads and a to show that the' the cost of slave I and that nothing . to that amount the West India countries. If teet could understand hl y by the recommends : fib: j ou le i e l , o: t y e I duty member. But till with his (the Chat the ultimate pro.t sessions must depe peting with the Iv =anent protection enabled to romper being restored to I opinion nt pozlisme Indies must corm the question wai brought about in deuce taken before reductions in the without any loss in the Met of manikin 1843, to 1,61.101. 1843, to 1,3001. ice : lanes, Mr. Greene tection were only c =tots were made —a few thousands might be consider the laboure.s wh rate of wages wh to Shied persons is country were stran what ho recommer gard to the emigre he had ahuded to ' should be given tr years. 11.- believ Gladstone) had p Mr. LADST( the West Indies. The CHANCE enter into the deur nial thr should be utterer since he bad bee any act of the col was not quite ci Mr. Tollemaehe, tried in Antigui aniweted. Toe the lab ,urcr t. rate ot wages. objection, provi Out Ilia a CC With regard to a which it could oe of laws on :he MI and ho must say, duced by the pro to a distance Ira: admitted on all h proposal they m the interest of a would enable the introdactiun of I would avail, unh further time that so extendiog the there was any de; It was stated so present chraifica , amount of protec have, tecause the o• competition It, very clearly is ti ground of comp clawification of I which was now i classes, to be call go:airmen said t line sugar would pended on the p after consulted.' Trade said Cult not pledge them sugar which w should be the at below that shoo the present la planters would which the gore tion of 7s. for 6s. for the third posed to reduce to which he wa the recommen And this was interest, for in the nuantit; In 1846 the time past. Even the owner of a cottage in this country was cot entitled to relief. The guarter-acre CUM; combined with that clause which prohibited relief to the families of persons not entitled. completely prohibited relief to the fa. exilic, of 'prisons holding more then a quarter of an acre of land. But the commioners, by their eirculao of the 23rd of May, had abeelutely done soggy with this r• strietios, thereby offering a bounty on the retention of land, and placing those who persisted in holding it in a better poet- tion than thus who had given tio their holdings., It was a direst inducement to the poor to egg lect their natural duties, end set toe law at de fiance. If the quarter-care clause was wrong let it be repealed, hot not wet aside by the authority of the commis.l stoners. Them was the case of • man who held twelve ores of lend, and who nevertheless sought parochial relict, and had been declared entitles' t . it by the commissioners. While the radii f works were [ l oin on, the strongest ground of complaint was that occupiers of lend were so employed ; and an order was made to strike such parties off the lists. How was this principle to lie reconciled with the recent acts cf the poor law commissioners? It teemed their first eirculax hid been penetrated as a general order applicable to all 01611.; but in • second circular they explained that it referred only to . par icular cases; and this was equally an infraction of the principle of the law. If the circular was equally applicable to all melons it was in the character of n general order, and ought only to have Bien issued by the authority the Irish government, countersigned by the chief secretary. By assuming the power of granting relief to persons holding any quantity of land the qummt , sioners had struck the most fatal blow at the administration of the poor law in Ireland; and the communications he had re ceived from that country confirmed the worst anticipations that had been entertained as to the effect of this circular. In some unions the applications for relief had doubled. Lord Carew, lord lieutenant of the county of Wexford—a county which was least burdened by poor rate—in a hour which he had addressed to the commissioners, expressed his belief that all the abusesof the relief works would be re-introduced, and the occupiers of land might continue on their holdings after sending their wives and homilies to the workhouse. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he was not at all surprised that this subject should hive attract...l the atten tion of his noble friend, and Irish landlords generally. Agreeing as he did in touch that had fallen from the noble lord, and in the importance of the subjeet, ho hoped to be able to induce the noble lord to withdraw his motion. To &lout it would be for that house to pronounce an opinion that the commissioners, who were acting under the direvien of the law officers of the crown, had scud ill.. gully. The oaly explanation he hel to give of the circular, which had been hastily issued, and applied generally instmd of being snide to apply to particular mei, was, that it was done on an einereeucy, and with the humane view of pre venting a great amount of suffering, and perhaps less of life. (hear, hear.) He admitted, se fully as his noble friend, that no order of the commissioners ought to contravene or set aside a principle of law ; also that every occupier of lead ought to be made responsible f. r the support of his It was the intention of the commiseioners to issue another order, guarding against the possibility of the circular referred to being drawn lett any kind of abuse, by limiting its ap plication to very extreme cases Where • person holding land refused to give it up. and allowed his family to slam, he ought to be punished, and it was the duty at the commissioners to see that he was punished ; but all they were enabled to du by law was ta take possession of any property he might have, either on the land or in his house. No time whatever would be lost he issuing a general or.:er stating that relic f was net to be given except in partieula: cases, the circumsteinces or which were to be specially considered ; and this being so, he hoped his noble frit nil would Reopen I hie motion fer the present. Lord BROUGHAM hail not fully considered the effete* of the law, but was inclined to think that the Irish law. officers were borne out in the view thee had taken. But whether a new law were required or nut, something must be done to break through one of the most crying abuses that ever existed, sufficient almost to break up the very frame. wnik of society—that of a man holding 12, or, it might be, 1200 acre. of land, releasing himself from the obligation to support his family by th•owing them upon the parish. (Hear, hear.) Even if he differed with the Irish law officers, he could not support the first resolution of his neles friend ; for any reolutien of that hotter, professing to declare what was the law, was absolutely worthless ; fur the othi r house might pass • resolution directly centrary. Ile was glad the attention of the house h hien called to the matter, on eccoust of the explanatientit hail elicited from the noble marquis. The Duke lit 111. - lIMOND thought it would he better to introduce a short declaratory act, making the receipt of parochial relies by any member of the family of • person holding land tantamount to the forfeiture of his occupation. Such persons could not he too severely punished. Lord REDESDALE said if the principle was once ad mitted of giving relief to occupiers of land, it was impossible to say to what irmight lead. Lord CAMPBELL said that a person neglecting to main tain his family was clearly punishable, whether in England or Ireland ; end the refusal to give up land was prime 'rocid evidence that a men was not di.ti'u:e. The circular of the commission , cc certainly led to the lenience that relief might be generally given in such eases, and, in so far, went to let aside the querteracte clause. But that clause was note positive prohibition of relief to the wife or family ; it was never the intention of the legislature that any persons should perish of hung, r. Had ihe circular been a little more explicit the ohjicticn to it would not have arisen. In Ire! ind the clause had hetet construed as a positive prohibition. Cases of gr. at hardship had arisen irs consequence; and hence the issuing of the circular. He hoped the motion would be withdrawn, as its effect would, doubtless, be attained. The Earl of St. GERMANS was glad to hear that an amended order was about to be issued, authoriaing relief in extreme cases without compelling a man to give up hie land. Lord BEAU ON T considered that the assistance of par liament was necessary to relieve those who had the adminis tration of the law from the difficulty in which the law placed them, and carry nut the original Intention of the legislature to wired ,to the law in Ireland to that of England. Lord STANLEY observed that the noble lord (Mont eagle) bad assumed throughout his statement that the poor law commissioner', fine by their notice, and subsequently by their order, had taton upon themselves to net aside the law, and act in direct defiance of the act of parliament, whereas it appeared that they had meted according to the best inter pretation the legal advisers of the crown had given of that act. The noble lord's resolution, therefore, would not be in accordance with the fact. With regard to the interpretation of the law officers of the crown he was not competent to give en opinion, but with regard to the intention of the legisla ture, he did not nee how it was possible that it could be more clearly expressed than it was in the act itself. Ileg ha looked with great alarm at the opinion given by Mr. IMP, and sanctioned by the Attorney-General, that the ion of land should not exclude the plea of de s t it u t i on, /Mews l at the posocesor might, notwithstanding, actually go , before the bond of guardians and claim relief. It was for I the express purpose, of excluding such personethat the enact ' went was passed, and if Mr. Heion's and the Attorney- General's interpretaron of the law be sound, that enactment was entirety set aside and superseded. lithe) , did not adhere to the "test" against the dictum of the poor law commis sioners, they would rlestray the whole bill, and let in • flood of pauperism, by enabling persona to hold land which it was impossible they could cultivate, and thus involve landlord and tenant, and the paup. rs themselves, in one common ruin, and subject the country to one common state of destitution, misery, and death, from which even the resources of this great empire would not suffice to rescue Ireland. Lord MON f FACiLE made a few remarks in reply, and ..one.uded by withdrewilie the motion, Their lordship (at S o'clock) slowing d to Thursday next. HOUSE ')F COMMONS.-MONDAY, JUNE 19. I Ike HP/Altek tonk the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. SECOND READING.-Eadelle'll (Orphan Working School) Charity Fatate BM. /MMIC B1'8121E:AM. oriTnoos.-Naukxrrroarlearns -11 y Mr. MACGREGOR, nun ernur petition from Glasgow, Gortrals, Lanarkshirn, and Ken frewohire, In favour of parliamentary reform.-Mr. DUNCAN, from Dundee and other parts of Scotland ; Mr. LIEN HY, • petition from Oldham, signed by 5,910 inhabitants of 21 years and upward.; also one from itoyaton, with 6:50 algnaturea ; Mr. LUSIIINGTON, five petitions from Westminater and Metrykkone ; Mr. OLYN, from Kendal; Mr. G. THOMPSON, numeratia petitiurs from Perialey, (thegow, Margate, Itam.rrale, Oswestry, Ac.; SUMO in favour of the people'. charter, sort others In Canna of Mr. plume's mot/um-Dr. BO %V RING, from Baton and cite r plug. to the latter affect; oleo by Mr. MOWATT, from St. Mawr.; Col. THOMPSON, several family petitions from Manchorter, Lanark, 1.^., and tweet) petitions from Preston; Cot. SALWEY, hum Ludlow and other placen ; Mr. 11. BERIVF:LLY, a petition rigned by 3,750 inhabitant. of Cari oca, and 111 petition. from lirlital ; CuL TYNTE, from Bridgwater ; Mr. LOCH, from Wych and other places Mr. KERSHAW, from Stockport and other place,. ; Sir 0. STRICKLAND, from Preston ; Mr. SCHOLEFIELD, from Birmingham; Mr. 8. CRAWFORD, from 540 elector,. of Borhilale, also .Al petitions from Amebae or I one from Bury; Mr. J. EVANS, from Haver erdweat ; Mr. BOU VE RI F., seve ral petition. from Kilmarnock and other places; Mr. ELLB,E, from places in Scotland ; Mr. SEELEY, Li petitions from Lincoln; Sir 0. GREY from a place in Northumberland; Mr. FORBES, from Stir liog ; Mr. COBDEN from Wakefield (102 aignatures), M pi le• ell, Lairnater (3100 olgnaturri),Govantadliery Glaairow, lkorsbury, Com merehall, Loa ridge, Greenfield., Ripon, Sheffield, Hovland, Man chester, Au...ter/ands, Lutterwork, Burnataple, Coddington, Iw Orton, Altrincham, in favour of Mr. Ilume's motion.- Mr. ILUME, from Edinburgh, with 14, 1 00 algnaturei and residences attached thereto : also petitions from Darlington with 1, 4 122 aigna:ures, from Canterburn, with 1,069, of whom 763 are electors, being a majo rity of the conadtueney ; from the Minories (713 0160.), Fodor (1,123), Montrose (L 304), Berwick -on.Tweed (1,025), Trnubtldire, Wilts (1,130), Enrol), (144,, 10 petitions from penetrable Belford (120), 6 from Arbroath (317), 4 from Bath (I), Br.stal (I), Abingdon it'', Gain boro ugh (42), Cheltenham (I 1), Brklport (I), Herta (2), B 'r gowrle (111), Stirling (I), Kirkalily (2u), Perth (10), goiners-town (20), nc. (20), 32 petltianr numerously signed (007), 117 ditto (117), (7), fdaryleborre (20), Holloway (I). lower Tooting (I), Knightsbridge (I), Fetter-lane (I), .ftlonlan-read (ILO . , id Kent emd (I), Sumera-town (I), asplassi (1), Edgware-road 1), Lambeth (7), Spa-fiehli (1), Pentonvllia ( 2 1, Ilummendoith (1), deo-town (2), Borough of Southwark (2), CUrkenwell (I), Fleet-street (I), Hol born (I), London-wall (I), St. Pancras (5), Matylebon , (9), Hunger ford-market (14), Westminster (32), Keniington (3), Leiceater-luare and nelghtrurbood (10),Lamb's-conduitoet (2), Chelsea (o),Piuilicr (6). -Mr. TRELAWNY, from the guardians of the Tavistock 11a0D. complaining of the increasing evil DI vagrancy, and praying for relief. -Mr. DUNGAN, from Dundee, egainat the Pauper Lunation (Scot land) MIL -Mr. STANSIGELD, from Hudderefield, against the Rale of spirits on Sunday; Mr. DUNCAN, from Dundee; Mr. HUDSON, 11 petitions from the Wesleyan. of Sunderland; Mr. BBOTHERTON, from Wind; to the same effret.-5 1 r. lIINDLEY, from litaleyhtidge, praying to be permitted to return a member instead of Sudbury.-Mr. CAM.HVELL, from merchants of Liverpool, against the government plan relative to the augar duties. .NOTICES OF MOTION.-Poort-Laws.-Lord REMINGTON, on Thursday nest, to move for leave to bring In four bills for the amend ment of the poor law.. LANDED Patellae bitacwinerwr (laskorn) Aer.-Elir B. HALL, on Friday next, to call the attention of the house to a return pre island to the Hawse of Lords, by which the conduct of Lord Ili People, and three other gentlemen, was impugned in respect of the Land Improvement (Ireland) Act. Mr. C. Loon took the oaths and his rest for North Ch, shire. lABERDEEN RAILWAY (CAPITAL) BILL. On the motion that this bill be read a third tune, Mr. HINDLEY objected that by this bill it was proposed to 11•111.