65_HS1-834228961_62-HQ-83894_Section_3
Agency: FBI

The FBI's 62-HQ-83894 case file includes investigative records, eyewitness testimonies, and public reports concerning Unidentified Flying Objects and flying discs documented between June 1947 and July 1968. The records include high-profile incident accounts, photographic evidence from sites like Oak Ridge, TN, and technical proposals regarding potential propulsion systems. Additional topics include convention programs, researcher accounts, and extensive media coverage from the period.  This file is partially posted on FBI vault with more redactions and some pages missing.  Included here is the complete case file with several newly declassified pages and only minor redactions.

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STANDARD FORM NO. 64 @ @ Office Memo; dum + onirep s1 OVERNMEN Ee ? Director, FBI (wo DATE: September 4, 1947 vw VA AY FROM =: SAC, Sen Francisco ~~ ATRMATL SPECIAL DELIVERY \ 4 SUBJECT: REPORTS of -#trmNG DISCS \ ——<——— ‘i Enclosed is a copy of a letter dated August 25, 1947, with Nf attachment fran Lt. Col, DONALD L. SPRINGER of A-2, Hamilton Field, vA California. Even though Col. SPRINGER feels that Mr. JOHNSON may ‘ have read some of his claims in a newspaper, Col, SPRINGER believes tif that Mr. F. MX JOHNSON should be interviewed in this matter. y ios aaa ¥y x In accordance with Bureau Bulletin No. 42, dated July 30, \ 1947, Portland is requested to exhaustively interview Mr. F. M JOHNSON, 106 N.W. First Ave., Portland, Oregon, regarding his alleged sighting of a "flying disc" on June 24, 1947. Copies of the result of this interview should be furnished the San Francisco Field Office for distribution to the 6th Army Intelligence. DWK:MR y, Encls. 2 Vg 62-2938 ip cc Portland (Incls. 4) — AMSD ay ax = = 7 7) a € fi ee 1 Me Al a : Pa r, : fh 2#Y

Authority mi 7; as HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE Office of the Assistant Chief of Steff, A-2 Intelligence Hamilton Field, California . 4AFDA 25 August 1947 SUBJECT: Flying Disc. TOs Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Department of Justice, Federal Office Building, Room 422, San Francisco, Calif. le The attached true copy of a letter from Mr. F. M. Johnson was received by this officer 22 August 1947. 2e Your attention is invited to the similerity between Arnold's early report and this gentleman's report. A possibility exists that Mre Johnson might have read some of this in the newspapers when Arnold was publicized re this matters Se This headquarters does not intend to investigate this incident. It is requested thet a result of any interview you may make be furnished this headquarters. ~A L eh DONALD L. SPRINGER 1 Inel: (dup) Lt» Colonel, Gs& Ltr fr F.M.Johnson AC of S, A-2 (True Cy) & DER | U.> SAN Route V4 A SART OTRO, I | een etn

pe way ia - PORTLAND, OREGON, August 20th 1947 Lte Cole Donald L. Springer, Assistant Staff Sirs Saw in the portland paper a short time ago in regards to an article in regards to the so called flying disc having any basis ) acte I can say am a prospector and was in the iit Adams district on June 24th the day Kennet\fruold of Boise Idaho claims he saw a thoy were Round about 30 foot in dimater tapering sharply to a point in the tail end looked like a bi and of a vlock shifting from side to side like a big magenet. There speed as far as i mow se i to be were standing on edge Banking in a Cloud. Yours Respectfully /s/ ¥F,. M. Johnson 106 No. West lst Ave Portland, Oregon A TRUE COPY: J 7 j Lf, Atal COL = GLLCAA Ly. fii fev? DONALD Le SPRINGEY, Lt. Colonel, G8¢/ AC of 5, A-2 , é ' © oer c © AUG 27 1947 SAN — ROUTED } i cy“ dD aia I

t © fi STANRARD FORM NO. 64 * Py Office: Men dum * UNITED § GOVERNMENT L¥brro : Director, FBI DATE: September 4, 1937 ae Atten: Assistant Director D. M. LADD Ma) ieROM + SAC, San Francisco SUBJECT: REPORTS OF FLYING Discs Stace ee Enclosed for your information are copies of two letters from Lt. Col. DONALD L. SPRINGER of A~2, Hamilton Field, California, dated August 27, 1947, with attachments reporting the sighting of "flying discs" on Guam, and result of A-2 investigation at Tacoma and Kelso, Washington. DWK:MR 62-2938 — : on Near (PE Q td Moh je el \TTACHED & 52. 6 3kGY -f Y ¢" Se anceleieteall eee Ss — : 270. NOV 18 1964 Se ~y 47 / \ Mo <

a " I. cer a [- "@ SECRET a | | HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2 \ Intelligence | Hamilton Field, Californie | | 4APFDA 27 August 1947 | 333.5/1208-1 * | | 62-293 Ses f SUBJECT: Re Flying Disc. | TOs Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Department of Justice, | | Federal Office Building, Room 422, San Francisco, California. { | \ } | ‘i 1. Following is extract from the Weekly Intelligence Summary, | ' Air Transport Command, Washington 25, D. C., dated 20 August 1947, | | _ Copy Noe 120, Article I, pg is } t 1 | “PLYING OBJECTS IN GUAM: Unidentified flying objects have | been Observed by three American enlisted men of the 147th Air= | ways and Air Communications Service Squadron at Harmon Field, Guem, The men report that at 1040 hours on 14 August 1947 the | two objects, which they describe as small, crescent shaped and | i traveling at a speed twice that of a fichter plane, passed over | them on a sig-sag course in a westerly direction at an approxi- | — mate altitude of twelve hundred feet. The objects disappeared | ear ah ‘imto clouds and a few seconds later a similar object possibly | © ‘ae one of those previously observed, emerged from the clouds and | eigkad proceeded west. No further details have been reported." | i= : fe 2. For your information. me kes G A iaote L. SPRIN /, | Rae Lt. Colonel, GSC | ex ; AC of S, Ae® | ; | 1 { ae La 5 @)

< HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2 . Intelligence Hamilton Field, California 4APDA 27 August 1947 333 65/1208-1 SUBJECT: Investigation of Flying Disc. TOs Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Department of Justice, Federal Office Building, Room 422, San Francisco, Californie. Attached summary forwarded for your information. DONALD L. SPRINGER 1 Incl: Lt. Colonel, GSC Summary of Information. AC of S, A-2 AUG 30 1947 SAN FRANCISCC et LJ INI TOPIVITAE

$ y IViTALT = 4 HAD QUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE Office of the Assistant Chief of Steff, A-2 Intelligence iamilton Field, California 4AFDA 27 August 1947 > 335 65/1208~1 SUBJECT; Investigation of Flying Dise. TOs Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Department of Justice, z Seattle, Washington. ¢ Attached summary forwarded for your information, 1 Inels DONALD L. SPRINGER Summary of Informations Lt. Colonel, GSC y AC of S, An2 1947 — ele Sd

copyY AIR RESCUE SERVICE , DETACIMENT 8 (624 AAF BU) MeChord Field, Tacoma, “aghington 4 August 1947 SUBJECTs Pinal Mission Report TOs Commanding Officer Air Reseue Service WacDill Field, Florida X le MISSION NUMBER Thirty-Nine. Ze RATURE. Q- At O400 PST, 1 August 47, ARMY FLIGHT SERVICR notified thie éetachment that a plene had been seen to crash and burn thirteen (135) miles south of KELSO, Washington (46°S'N, 122965"). Se ACTION TAKEN Se 1 Aug 47- At 04:50 PST, APS received information from Mrs O- Ge Clark, loonl sheriff of ESLSO, Washe, that the scene of the crash was fifteen (16) to twenty (20) miles east of KELSO in the vicinity ef 0OBLE CREBK. ‘The KELSO Chief of Police saw an aireraft fly low over tho tom, then crash and burn to the east. The time was about 0236 PST, A check of aircraft mown to be in the vicinity revealed that 5-25 #1516 had departed ICCHORD PIELD at 0212 PST for HAMILTON FIELD, California. ‘The weather was reported as CPR, A full moon made visibility exceptionally good. The pilot's name was CAPT. W. C. DAVIDSON; the plane carried three ($) additional « persona. ‘The Base Operations Officer and Base PIO were notified. This detachment began organising a ground party of base personnel to supplement that being formed by the KELSO Chief of Police. At 0500 PST information was received from KELSO by APS that ground fog in the valleys at the seene of the crash was preventing ground party from locating the plane. Since no communication had been received from 8-25 #1316, it was assumed thet it was the plane reported as crashed. ARS C+47 was pre-flichted to traneport the Arny ground party to KELSO but a check of the field conditions there deemed it advisable to use a smaller aireraft. Of the two Ce45s available, one belonging to APS was unserviced after a night flights the other, belong- ing to AACS, wae readied even though a responsible officer of that organ- ization was not present to euthorige the flight. Fog at K&LSO prevented take-off until 0700 PST. The ground party, led by CAPT. W. L. LITIRELL and CAPT.» Te He PORSBERG, consisted of six men including a medical technician and a photographer. At OG00 PST, the KPLSO Chief of Police notified AFS that a passenger of the orashed airplane was in his office and had confirmed a

é ala ATT\DAIMT A oe ’ ’ : i Subjeoty Final Mission Report” 4 August 1947 The belief that the crash was that of the unreported «25. The Passenger, Sgts Ne Le TAPF, of FT. LAWTON, SEATTLE, was uninjured, but reported that - the erew chief, T/Sgte We Ds MATHEWS, was at a farm house near the scene of the eragh and was injured. gts TAFF then led an ambulance to Sgt. MATHEWS who was subsequently taken to ¢ local hospital, At 0610 PST an attempt was made to telephone Sq. 3 at HAMILTON FIELD but no ancwer was received; however, it was known that HAMILTON APS was aware of the incident and would notify Sq. 3, At 0700 PST Capt. LITTRELL departed in a Ce45 for KBLSO, At O745 PST Sq B wae contacted by phone end givon a flash report. At O905 PST CAPT LITTRELL phoned and informed that he had placed CAPTAIN FORSBERG in charge of Army porsonnel proceeding te the scone of the crash. Ro serial search was necessary ee civiliens in the area knew tho exact location of the crash and had reported finding one (1) body in the wreekhge. CAPT. LITTRELL prepared to fly Sgt'a TAFF and MATHEWS te MCCHORD PIRLD e for medical attention, arriving at 0945 PSY. The survivors steted that 4 they believed neither the pilot nor co-pilot has parachuted from the Plenes The cnuse of the incident was at this time determined to be a fire in the left engine, CAPT LITTRELL was informed by Sgt. TAPF that he believed classified documents had been aboard the planes CAPT FORSBERG wes instructed to take necessary precautions. An anbulance met the plane St MCCHORD FICLD carrying the two survivors and took thom to the hospital. 3 Inverrogetion revesled that the left engine had enught fire in the power section and flames ond smoke hed spread to the flight deck almoat imned- iatelye The crew chief, MATHEWS, assisted TAFFY in attaching his shest pack and TAPP abandoned the plane at an estimated altitude of 10,000 ft (thie fact te douvted but is not considered necesserily rolevant ATHENS Aelped the pilot and cospilot attach their chest packs (211 per- sonnel had boon wearing the harness) and as he left the plene wes aware that the co-pilot was preparing to follow. The pilot had started to leave and, to the best recollection of MATHEWS, was partially standing and holding the control wheel with his left hand. WATHEW'S statenents indicate that proper emergency procedures had been performed but that the flames had en- veloped the sntire left side almost immediately. TAPF stated that, because of the full moon and good visibility, he saw MATHEWS leave the plane and was able to follow the plane to the ground and that he saw no one else bail out, The ship was enveloped in flames and was beginning to fell apart before hitting the ground where it exploded and burned about one (1) mile 5 from where he, TAFF, landed. Me lit in a tree, end not knowing how to release his parachute of the quickedetachable kind, out himself loose frou the herness with hie pocket knife. Se kicked end struggled and eventually jumped to the ground, receiving « jolt on impact out was unable to fuess how far he hed fallen. He then followed a cow path for an estimated two (2) miles to a farm house, arriving after MATHEWS, Moanwhile, as MATHERS @leared the plane he turned and sew the plane strike the ground, explode and burne Just before or just at the time of impact he saw an object afire thrown clear of the plane but did not know whether it wea & person or part of the planes MATHEWS also lit in a tree, and efter freeing himself from his harneas, fell to the ground where he injured his back. He lest eonseloummess and on recovering went to the burning plene, about fifty 2 z CIDpLivs =e ©)

i la a . - ’ Subject: Final Mission Reperst ’ 4 Auguet 1947 (60) yards away. Flares were going off and he thought best to leave the Scene, He heard a stream nearby end followed it uptil he came to « house and roused the occupants. Seon TAFF arrived at the same house and, being un- id injured, was driven into towne Then he led an ambulance to effect transporta- tion of MATHEWS to a hospital. Meanwhile, civilians reached the scene of the crash where they found one body. At 0930 PST, a message from Sq 3 informed that top egeret material was in the navigators kit and to request tommanding Officer MCCHORD FIELD to expedite a1] available information to Commanding Officer HAMILTON FIELD. Meanwhile, CAPT PORSSERO and four (4) enlisted men departed KELSO at 0830 PST for scene of the crash, ‘They were transported by the WASHINGTON STATE POLICE who knew the exact location of the plane (46°09! + 122043'W), ‘The ground party determined upon arrival at the soone, thet two (2) bodies were in the wreckage. Indications led to the belief thet the co-pilot wae afire when he left the plane an instant ‘ before impact. Th. pilot's remains were found in the wreckages Pree liminary investigation by CAPT PORSBERG disclosed the planes left wing about one hundred twenty-five (125) yards from the widely seattered port- ° tions of the planes ‘The left wing was intact. and hed apparently torn off Just outboard of the left engine before impact. ‘The forward portion ‘ ) of the wing stub was melted but the rear two thirds indicated thet it had ripped loose from the inboard seetion of the wing, The wing leading edge was undemaged. The navigation and landing liphts were unbroken. The sileron was undamaged but the flap section was crushed, leading to the belief that the wing struck the teil sections From these indicetions it is believed the wing ripped from the airplane just efter MATHENS abandoned the plane. The resulting spin thus prevented the remmining 3 erew members from bailing out although the co-pilot may heve been in the hateh, A few civilians were in the area when CAPT FORSBERG arrived and he took precautions to prevent them from disturbing the wreckage. At 1157 PST CAPT LITTRELL flew CAPT RICH, M. C., to ESLSO, An ambulance digpatched from MOCHORD PIELD, met them at KELSO, and was led to the soene of the erash by the STATE POLICK. ‘The bodies were recovered and trana- ported in the ambulance to MOCCHORD PIELD. CAPT LITTRELL returned to MCCHORD FIELD where comping equipment was prepared to be dropped to the ground party. OAPT LITTRELL, made a successful drop at dusk by sighting on @ signal fire. The ground party set up camp at the wreokage scene to sot as guard and to investigate further the following day. They were relieved of responsibility of ©11 recovered documents by a CIC agent who head arrived about 1800 PST. bs 2 Aug 47e ‘The ground party remained at the scene of the crash pending official seouring of the incident. No serial activity. Ge S Aug 476 MOGHORD FIELD Operations Officer departed at 1000 PST to investigate the accident and to relieve CAPT FORSBERG, who returned @t 1600 PST, Incident closeds 3 CONFIDENTIAL

es J ’ ’ S 30 eget oie Subjests inal Mission Report 4 August 1947 Ge STATISTICAL StmhARY &e Fou \CTIVITY (1) Total man hours by ARS Personnel in field 72 (estinate) 300 \ ] men } re vy civilian personnel (est) 160 (1) ‘otal Woe of sorties flown 3 (2) YTotel hours flown by Army elrerart “hes Ge LOCAL PURCHASES (1) None « GCOMmNT: a. Cooperation received from sll civilian agencies Soneermed was complete and excellent. Be Ones Captain, Air Corps Jommand in, fficer i nels lePhotoRraphs 4

. ‘ GEALQUARTERS YOURTH AIR FORCE oad Office of the Agsistant Chief of Steff, An? Haeilten Pield, California Triz Tavestigation of Flying Dise Invesricatton map ar ..2200m8 and Kelso, Washington Contnouine orrice AA Defense Gomainil, Wtchel Mera Fue No... SAP ©28080% Penton coverep Sh Joly Snvoagh 7 August 1967 - Case: cuasstricaTion .__ SUSORMR Dare ......28 Auguets 2047 Srarosior casi’ 22), SU Mea ee ASON FOR INVESTIGATION: iveetigation initiated at the request of Air Defense Gyuaanay reference ltr Bq ADC, dtd 7 Jul 47, file DSS3,5ID, subjs Investigation, of Plying Dise. SYNOPSIS: Om 31 July 47, Mre Arnold, Aviation “ditor of the Idaho veily Stateaman, tele- phoned Lte Grown requesting he return te Tacoma because Arnold believed he had some very vitel information en the flying discs Lie Grown end Capt. Davidson interviewed a Ure Fred Le Crignan and e Mr. lierold Ae Dahl, slong with Capt. Smith of the United Air Lincs, and Mire Arnold, at the Wine throp Hotel in Yacom, Washington, on the night of 51 July 1947, The summery ef their interrogation and findings was related te Major Sender; Public Information Officer, UeChord Field, by Mire Arnold and Capte Smithe Major Sander retold the results of the investigetion to this officer from his notes. lire Dahl and Mrs Grisman were nob ovailable for interview while this officer was in that area, although every effort was meade to contact theme further investigation of thie particular incident was left with Mre Brady, Resident Agent, FBI, Tacoma, Washingtonse it was epperont from newspaper clippings, telephone calls to this officer, and convergations with tejor Sander, that e United Press correspondent, of the Tacoma Times, wis instrumental in keeping this case alive. ‘This officer and Major Sender, although quoted many times in the press, did not discuss this matter with the press during the period of this reports the anenymous mystery cnller in Yocom could possibly be Mrs Crigmans Distr1sution Cortes APPROVED: AAP is Tio ot a aeacanaie) 1. Smeg DOMALD L. SPRINGER, Les Go! ei, GSC a Ge? 6th A: ° o Libs ° Ue es eS AG of 5, —-— PSI, Seattle | at * Area [ ee! | PSI, San Franeiseo 1 | oat US | nie AUG 30 1947 SAN FRAMEISCO Rpe ie Bias roe No: 220 ~CONSIDENTHAL- {ROMEO wy) En 2 7 1 April 1944 re | Oe aa ort prec ears nance anche |

CI-R1 Report é i @ ‘ <Q : -CONFIDENTIAL- DRPAILSs le Suring the afternoon ef 31 duly 47, tire Arnold, Aviation Bditer of the idaho Daily Statesmen, telephoned Lt Srown, CIC Sub=Detachment Commander et heads quarters Fourth Air Fores, end stated in eubstance: That he, Arnold, and Capt Smith bad arrived in Tacomn to investigate the purported flying dise explosion on a gure fee craft on 21 dune 47, This investigation was requested and financed by @ Ure ite As Palmer of the Vonture Press, 305 Studie Blidge, 1728 thermen Avemue, Svansten, Rilineie. AGEST*S WOTEe See Inolesure 1 and Inclosure 2. The signatare to Inelesare @, Mrs Save Johneon, is that of the editor of the Ideho Daily Statessene Mire dohason ie « former Arey Air Perce officer end from ail indigations te a very patriotic Americans On the receipt of Inclosure 2 at Jeadquarters Fourth Air Yorce, this officer requested the San Prancises Fil Office te cheok the Uhieago PI Offies for Ne Ae Valuer and the Venture reas the return anewer, by telephone, was te the effeet that the Shieags indiess of the PSI, the Uhieago Pelice, and Credit Bureau hed no record on Re Ae Pelser or the Ventures Prees, 2. L& drown and Capt Davidson arrived at MeTherd Field during the afternoon of Sl daly 47— They changed from their uniforms te civilian elothing in the alroraft and, on being queried by Operations as to why they desired transportation to Tacoma, they replied they wero to aake a speeches GENES NOMS: This was in compliance with par 4, ltr fr kg Abe, Pile DBS5.610, ¥ dal 47, aubjs Investigation of Flying Sige. Avoording to iajor George Sander, Public information Officer, Methord Field, The Tacom Times reoelved an anonyseus telephone cell that Arnold and Suith were present in the Minthrop Ketel for the purpose of conducting on investigation on the flying discs The Tecone Times checked ané found this te be true, such to Arnold's end Smith's curpriges Lt Srown end Gapt Devideen did interview %&. Sereld 4, Uehl, Br. Fred lL. Grisman, in ® hotel room in the Winthrop Hotel, Tacora, Washe, in the presence of @r, Srnold ond Onpt Gaith. If notes were teken of this conversation, they were de« stroyed in the airereft aceident. Urs Arnold stated to Major Jander thet Lt Brown obtained from Ur. deh] and re Crignan semplos of an unidentified eubstense thet were identical to those eppearing in Inclesures 3 to 7. the senples plotured in Inelesures & to 7 wore taken by lr. Arnold from the seme box thet Dahl and Criswan offered Me Srown and from which he obtained hia samples. t/tgr Matthews, Grew Ghief on the wreeked airdreft, upon being interrogated by this officer, stated that he placed « heevy cardboard carten in the rear comparteent of the 825 thet erashede ii did not look in the box nor heer any comnents from 14 Grew or Capt Gevidson es to its cone tants uv Se The following summarises what was related by Wre Arnold and Capt Smith to Major Sander as te the aubsteuce of the interrogation by Lt Brow and Capt Davideens That on 23 dun 47 Mr, Uehl wes proceeding south of Maury Island in Mrs Gricuen's beste Five flying diees cane dewn out of the cleude and cireled slowly around the bay, dropping to an estimated clevation ef 500 feet. Thees disos appeared round and -CONFIDENTIAL W.D.,P.H.G. Form No. 110

CI-R1 Report é - @ 6 3 : CONFIDENTIAL flattened similar to @ deflated automobile innertube. They were judged by Dahl to be Gpproxinately 100 feet across with a 25 foot opening in the center. ‘The outer @age of the object had round portholes and the inner ring hed square windows or portholes. The dises wore silent and from hia viewpoint he could see no means of propalsions ne of these discs eppeared to falter and waver in the air, another of these aforementioned five Gisos dropped down close te the dise that appeared to waver end bumped it, dumping “tons” of the stuff as pictured in inclesure 3 te 7 on his boat, knocking off the handrail, horn, end generelly damaging the boat to the extent of $200000, and killing Uahl‘s doge AGEST*S NOTKs This officer, in the company of Mejor Sender, voarded the aforemene tioned bost where it wes docked in the Sacous harbor on G Aug 47%» 4 hand rail was missing, bat the ares where the hand rail wes previously fastened had been painted over with several conte of paint and wae orasked by the weathers The deck and roof of the cabin was of « very thin construction and the eabin further had glass on the front and eides. 1% is thia offiecer*s opinion thet if any of the objecte presented by Debl as enuplee of the material dropped by the flying dise had hit this beat, it would heave certainly been necessary to replege the foredeck ani the cabin roof. These two arene wore vory heavily coated with several esate of paint and had deep weather cracks thet would take evveral seasons to aequire. Mire Grisman, who ome the boat and eperates a shoreline water patrol for various business fires, evidently visited the area at “eury Ialend to check iehl*s story. Se ta supposed to have steated that he found the saterial that he presented to Le Brown and Capt Yevidesen in a send pit near where the incident was supposed to have eccurred. “hile he, Oriamn, was at the goene of the incident, a Plying disc cane out of the clouds and behaved in « similar warmer es the ones previously described. AGERT*S HOTS: The whtsessing on two ceonsions, in broad daylight, of an object so large and clearly visible within several miles of the city ef Tacoma certeinky should heave been seen end reported on by other then Ssh] and Criwmen. A check ms made of the newspapers on and after 21 dame end no mention could be found of « systerious object appearing over the Tecoma harbors “re Crigean is supposed to have sont senples of the objects that he picked up in the Maury Island sand pit to a friend of bie at the University of Chicage for an analysis reports Ye ia reported to have net reesived the enalysis reporte AGENT*S WOTEe Th te pousible that the Ure %, A, Palmer, referance Inclosurs 1 end 2, wight have come eeress this ineident tarough the University ef Chisagos The in ‘tion of Uahh ené Crianen by LS Green was completed about midnight on E> | saly/h kaguate i% Brows and Capt Sevidson returned to SeCherd Fisld and prepared for a might flight to Samilten Field, ‘the weather was clear with a bright meen shining. They departed spproxiwntely 0200 hourg end crashed at approximately 0250 hours on 1 August 1947. (See inclosure 8). ; %» Mm 6 August 47, this officer, t= the company of Wajor Sender, Metherd Field, ang re Grady, resident agent, iscoms Federsl Surenu of Investigation, attempted to CONFIDENTHAL— W.D.,P.M.G, Form No. 110

CI-RI Report é @ “CONAIBENFIAL- \ Ree ule Gonteot either Hre Dahl or Ure Grisman, without success. Capt Smith end Mr, Arnold departed tho Tacoma aren on 3 August 47, therefore, this officer did not have the @pportunity of conversing with them direetlye AGHE*S WORE: A reoord cheek was made by telephone by “re Brady with the Seattle Field Office, FRI, for records on “re Criemen and Wire Dehli, The sheok on Sire Crieman wee negative. The Seattle FSI indleos indicated thet « fereld Sahl had been charged with two inotdente of iliege] woering of the uniform and one with theft of cational property. It sould not be determined at the tine whether Gerold 4. “ahi, the eudject km question, and Sareld “shi of the FRI indices, was onc and the sands Se Mrs Crigaan hed indiested to Capt Gnith, Arnold, et al, that he was a former fighter pilot end held coumiesion se Captain in the Air ®eserwes AGENTS BOTRs On 6 dugust 47, thie officer checked the reeorda of the 400th AAT SO(RT) and determined that Fred t. Crigmun was regietered with thet Reserve Unit as Captain, Serial Bamber 0753951, with residences at 125 Yoodlend, Sacom, Mashingtony Primry 165 1064 and 1055. Im 1042 ho was with the Criminal Investigetion Miviaien, Stato of Geshington, end previously had bees en of] teeknician with the Union Pacific Railway. Orlexen extered the servies iu 1042 as an enlisted man and served aa such for sevexteon aonthn, In 1943 he was comciesioned on graduation fron flying sehool ané served a totel of teenty-nine monthee cheek of the tacoma eity directory was made on “erold Ay Sahl, which indicated his home was at 903 8. “obs {t., telephone: Prestor TLI7. Business address wes listed os 236 Widdle “aterwayy telephone: Broade wey 77336 RECOMMCRDATION: y 1. That mo further investigation be undertaken on this apecifie incident by Apay Aly Fores persomel. 2s Theat in view of the reported statements by Mire Crianan, thet consideration be given te revoke bis Air Seserve commicsion and flying stetus as an undesirable and unreliable officers § Incle:s le Photogiat, ltr fr KeAsPalnere e Photostat, telegran fr Dave Jolmsons Se to 7e Photographs, Unidentified Substances 6» Pinal Miesion Report, Air Kessus Services CONFIDENTIAL W.D.,P.M.G. Form No. 110

a . ~ 4 » ~ Ot \ Wo og ¥ I i 305 STUDIO BUILDING Py) 1718 SHERMAN AVENUE ' EVANSTON, ILLINOIS \ Jaly 22, 19)? | } ) 6 \ | Mr. Kenneth Arnold, ¢ oy i { . ] | Zoise, Idaho fr“ om. i | b } | Deer Mr. Arnold: 4 f Quite obviously you have been ribbed so much you'd like to { forget the flying saucers--but I'd sure like te heve your Hl personal story, your photo, pio of your plane, etc, as I | | askea before. And you won't be made to look silly, because | | there's more to this than the rewspapers and the “experts* 1 i have made of it. | Besides the article, I heave another propssition, You seem to | " get around quite a bit, and if you can maka a trip to Tacome, Washington at e]1 feasible, I'd be willing to pay expenses | | plus 2 nice amount to make it worth your while. \ | i ~ I'a want you to see Mr. Harold A. Dahl, P. O. Box 154, Fern | Hill Station, Tacoma, and Mre Fred Le Crisman, owner of the | Tacoma Harbor Patrol, Ine. Dahl, and two other seamen, on a patrol near Murry Island, off Tacoma, saw six discs, one in trouble, witnessed an explosion, saw falling stuff which bi. j smashed their wheelhouse end searchlight snd lended on the HF t beach. They sent me samples whioh Chicago U has failed to } ' analyze. I want a picture of the beach and the stuff that \ landed there (about twenty tons, they said). And I want k somebody who'll get the trath, to find out if these boys are al on the up and upe You could do thet. I hope youwill. If { { agreeable, please write and perhaps we ean telk business. Fail ' I think you'd like to prove this thing tood | Anyway, I still wnt that article! | \ | | Sincerely yours, Ltt?” Re A Palner | 5 | ‘ | 4 \ Bp ¥e . a eae =: he “ . Loew X 5 MP cc, FI a a OE es el

ya x ' 2. dts. § BS wuAa1 PD e « %. ~ —- BOISE IDA JULY 29 1947 255P BP LT FRANK M BROWN, A=2 (RPT A=2) OFFICE 4TH AIRFORCE HAMILTON FIELD CALIF. VENTURE PRESS 305 STUDIO BLDG 1718 SHERMAN AVE EVANSTON ILL. RA Zz, PALMER. SENT ARNOLD $200 TO GO TO TACOMA TO INVESTIGATE FLYING ES DISC REPORT THERE. SUGGEST THIS OUT OF LINE FOR PRESENT PUBLIC gS INTEREST IN STORY AND BELIEVE-AS | SUGGESTED ON YOUR VISIT HERE VENTURE PRESS SHOULD BE CHECKED : DAVE JOHNSON az 305 1718 $200 Be 308P BP 4

Office Memo |-ilffd + UNITED Sla... }OVERNMENT TO : Directors FB, \ ) DATE: 129-47 y FROM : — fp LF ow 4 SUBJECT: METAL FRAGMENTS >) SERVED AT WEST RINDGE, NEW HAMPSHIRE, JULY 7, 1947 a SECURITY MATTER (x! Reference is made to Boston teletype to the Bureau dated July 18, 1947, Dean John M, Bunker, the original informant, has advised that a spectographic examination has been completed of the metal particles referred to, They were determined to be of ordinary cast iron which had been subjected to a very high degree of heat, The heat caused scales to be formed on the oast iron which were originally thought to be of some metallic alloy. The scientist examining the partioles concluded that if they had come through the air from any great altitude in as small pieces as they were found then most of the hoat would have been taken from them by the time they reached the ground end fires would not have resulted, It is noted they landed Y approximately 700 feet from a railroad track and inquiries were conducted by “4 MIT to determine whether or not the particles could have been originally a _—_ part of a liner in a smoke stack or some other part of the steam engine, These \ inquiries resulted in positive information that the particles did not come from a train or locomotive, Measurements of the four pieces examined revealed that they had most likely been originally all part of one hollow eylinder, eight inches in diameter and three sixteenths of an inch in thickness, It ae: was felt that one piece falling from a great height would have still retained P, a good part of its heat and probably would have smashed when it hit the ground. ; A scientist, whom Yean Bunker did not identify by name, recalled that cast —_—~ iron cylinders of similar measurements had been used in New Mexico on < research work on a guided missile project. However, this unidentified scientist not so conclude to the exclusion of all other possibilities, & y. CONF. INFTJ If is interesting to note that the examination at MIT was actually conducted (b) (7)(D) Who furnished the Boston Office with an informal report similar in all major details to that supplied by Yean Bunker above, ‘The men at MIT at are gathering through friends all additional pieces of the original oyli: swrd available, These will be turned over to the Yoston Office. No further” —}— examination is being conducted by MIT and no effort is being made + > reconstruct the original cylinder, ramnweh Unless advised to the oontrary by August 15, 1947 the Boston Office will destroy these specimens, In the interim they will be transmitted to the Bureau on specific Bureau instruotions, Lod 94 fe A fof - 34 rv 2) ® g 270 novisises FYX-64 : a ‘ i r3U4y

Tongue Sip a r’ ¢ It is noted that the original 4oston teletype refleoted that this inquiry was being treated as “secret” matter at MIT. (b)(7)(D) has advised that the comparatively small number of research scientists at MIT during the summer are all cognizant of the incident and the results of the research, However, no publicity has been given and it is not anticipated that any will result. The 4ureau's interest is not known to the scientists at MIT. ‘There has been no speculation that a guided missile originating in a foreign land landed in New Hampshire, As indicated above, unless the Bureau requests specifically further investigative action, this case is being closed in the Boston Office. BSG:md 100-20698

VA Pa if i] o ) V) C f Vv MY FBI BUTTE 8-15-47 5-45 pM OAV vow RECTOR, FBI URGENT Ve A Wi6 FLYING DISCS. ON INSTANT DATE A. Ce(URIE OF TWIN FALLS, IDAHO, }\yx INFORMED LOCAL NEWSPAPER THAT COMMUNITY THAT AT ONE PM ON WEDNESDAY LAST, AUGUST THIRTEEN, HE AND TWO SONS BILLIE, AGE TEN, KEITH, Amuenx AGE EIGHT, SAW AN OBJECT NINE MILES NORTHWEST OF TWIN FALLS, RE- SEMBLING FLYING DISC. URIE STATED THIS OBJECT WAS PROCEEDING BK DOWN SALMON RIVER AT TERRIFIC SPEED ESTIMATED BY HIM AT ONE THOUSAND MILES PER HOUR. URIE AND SONS DESCRIBED OBJECT TO NEWSPAPERS AS TWENTY FEET LONG, TEN FEET WIDE AND TEN FEET THICK, LIGHT SKY BLUE IN COLOR AND ALSO OBSERVED FLAMES EMANATING FROM SIDES OF OBJECT. AT TIME URIE AND SONS SAW OBJECT THEY ALL HEARD LOUD SWISH WHEN OBJECT DISAPPEARED FRIM SIGHT. CURRENT EFFORTS BEING MADE TO INTER- VIEW URIE AND SONS PURSUANT TO BUREAU BULLETIN FORTY TWO, SUB DIVISION B, DATED JULY THIRTY NINETEEN FORTY SEVEN, BUREAU WILL RE PROMPTLY , AND FULLY INFORMED OF ALL PERTINENT DEVELOPMENTS. Cop ; p } if {} sf BANISTER , Sea mee Age y 190, ee / PLS ACK AND HOLD : br “fY) / | ) ; 7-48 PM OK FBI WA BW

: STANDARD SEORM NO, 64 4 poe ° “ y Office Men dum + UNITED GOVERNMENT ‘ - . : - TO. ae: The Director DATE: August 1y¢ 197 / FROM : Mr. D. M. Ladd Ar. tte —— oe _| / a 0 Wires = el G urs MiVhots ey SUBJECT: ~ FLYING DISCS Pee Se ee i) fean ——— In connection with your request to be advised as to the facts a — concerning newspaper reports of flying discs in the Portland area and the ie San fesa_— reported conference of army officials in Portland concerning flying dises, #. iesse———— the Portland Office has advised that Leaveritt G. Richards, aviation Mise Gendy editor of the. "Oregonian," has stated that Captain Willian LpDavidson iT ae and Lieutenant Frank a He of the Fourth AAF Headquarters, San Francisco, were in Portland on July 27, 197. While in Portland they interviewed Dick ft © “Rankin, an experienced pilot, who had reported that he observed, on June 1h, vA a formation of ten flying discs over Bakersfield, California. Richards added “4 that Davidson and Brown had also interviewed the following four experienced pilots who were among the first,.to report seeing discs, KennethXArnold, businessman from Boise, Idaho; Captain E. IXs aith, a co-pilot; RalpbjStevens, United Airlines and DaveXJohnson, aviation editor, Idaho"Statesman." In order to determine the purpose of these interviews Richards contacted Major General Twining of Wright Field, Ohio, and from him gained the impression that the AAF instituted this investigation to wash out the disc reports since they are definitely not of AAF origin. On Friday, August 1, the plane in which AAF investigators, Captain bs / Davidson and Lieutenant Brown, were flying, crashed at Kelso, Washington and both were killed. The wreckage was screened by AAF Intelligence from McChord Field. The "Tacoma News Tribune" and through them the United Press put out a story that the plane was carrying parts of a dise which had struck a boat owned by Harold Dahl and Fred Chrisman. It has also been inferred that this plane was sabotaged to prevent these disc parts from being examined. Investigation by the Bureau has reflected that this plane was definitely not carrying parts of a disc and there appears to be no substantiation of a sabotage charge. For your further information there is attached a blind memorandum setting forth in more detail the results of the investigation surrounding the above plane crash. No further inquiry is being made in this matter. ACTION Air Force Intelligence has been advised of the results of our investi- gation. a / b. y- = SECORDED f oe ~* it ig 2D 1 ao & eee re ? : RGF:mjp 2, KY / COPIES DESTROYED ag 2 Qe). 270 NOV 18 1904 io pe Yr

fe . August 1h, 19h7 FLYING DISCS The "Tacoma News Tribune" and through them the United Press put out a story that an army plane which was allegedly carrying parts of a disc which had struck a boat owned by Harold Dahl and Fred Chrisman had crashed on August 1, 1917, killing two Air Force Intelligence officers who were interviewing 2 persons who were alleged to have seen flying discs. Harold A. Dahl and Fred Chrisman, when interviewed by Bureau Agents, advised in a signed statement on August 7, 19l7, that in the early part of June, 197, they picked up some strange rock formations from a gravel pit on Mauri Island, Washington. They sent a cigar box of these formations to one Ray Palmer, editor of the Venture magazine in Evanston, Illinois and also editor of the Fantasy magazine in Chicago, Illinois. According to them they requested Palmer to make only a chemical analysis of the rock formations. Palmer then wrote asking for additional samples stating he had been unable to analyze the material. Dahl and Chrisman remarked that a few days after the flying disc stories appeared during the latter part of June, Palmer contacted them by telephone saying he would pay for an exclusive story if the materials they had sent him were fragments of a flying disc. Dahl said he wrote Palmer a letter in which he represented the material as being a part of a flying disc, and both Dahl and Chrisman admitted that this statement was entirely false. Dahl and Chrisman then received a call from one Kenneth Arnold of Boise, Idaho who requested them to meet him at the Winthrop Hotel in Tacoma on July 31, 1947. According to them Arnold called in army intelligence officers from Hamilton Field, California and one Captain Emil H. Smith of United Airlines of Seattle, Washington to attend this meeting. Dahl and Chrisman maintained they told the intelligence officers Captain Davidson, Lieutenant Brown, Kenneth Arnold and Emil H. Smith exactly how they got the rock formations and that they had no connection with any flying discs. Dahl and Chrisman stated that they then furnished some of the rock formation to the intelligence officers as samples. Captain Davidson and Lieutenant Brown left Tacoma, Washington in a B-25 to return to Hamilton Field, California about 2:30 A.M. August 1, 197, and were killed when their plane crashed at Kelso, Washington, after the left engine burned out an exhaust stack which in turn caught the left wing on fire which caused it to break off. The crew chief and each officer parachuted to safety. Ernie Vogel, an Associated Press wireman at Tacoma advised that two or three days after the flying disc story started he contacted Dahl to check the story COPIES DESTROYED Vas me 2.70 NOV 18 1964 f ‘

ry 4 Bik that the Seattle Post-Intelligencer had received from the Fire Chief at Harbor, Washington, to the effect that Dahl had some flying disc fragments. At this time Dahl admitted to Vogel that the entire story was false. Relative to Arnold, Dahl and Chrisman stated that he was paid by Ray Palmer of the Fantasy magazine and possibly the ‘Boise ’Statesmar® to come to Tacoma and obtain a story from them regarding the flying disc fragments. On July 31 and August 1, a total of five anonymous calls were received by a Tacoma Times reporter and the United Press Wireman at Tacoma giving information regarding the meeting at the Winthrop Hotel over the disc fragments and stating that the B-25 had been shot down or sabotaged which killed Captain Davidson and Lieutenant Brown, inferring that this was done because the intelligence officers were carrying disc fragments in their plane. Dahl and Chrisman stated that these calls could only have come from themselves, Arnold or Smith, who, they stated, had a friend on the Chicago Times and was possibly selling the story to the Chicago Times through this friend. Dahl and Chrisman denied making these calls. Smith, upon interview, stated that reporter Lantz of the Tacoma Times and Morello of the United Press office in Tacoma had informed him that Arnold had several anonymous calls and from the accuracy of the information transmitted Smith believes they were made by either Dahl or Chrisman. ais

cL ; . » ° i 2 : & % Federal Gureau of Inuestigah United States Acpartment of Justice 407 U. S. Court House / Seattle 4, MNashington wy ’ hugust 18, 1947 me "Sa ViNT ¢ CRISMAN and HAROLD A. DAHL, TAG HINGTO! ‘ACOA, WASHINGTON ¥ SM- X Dear Sir: The following, in general, are the facts regarding the subsequently resulted in news stories by the#facoma Times, the»Bdise Statesman and thexChicago Times.that a Be25 carrying Army Intelligence officers was -shot down Or sabotaged over Kelso, Washington on August 1, 1947 because it was carry- ing some flying disc fragments, The original story, as related by FRED CRISMAN and HAROLD ‘DAHL, was to the effect that DAHL, while patrolling in his boat near Maury a Usland, Washington, sighted six flying discs, one of which fluttered to the f earth and disintegrated, showering his boat with fragments which caused some & damage tg the boat and killed his dog. HAROLD DAHL wrote a letter to RAY A. ra PAIMER of {Siff-Davis Company which publishes fantastic adventure magazines in F Chicago, sending him fragments of the flying disk and relating the above story, RADIAL IR requested Wrans-Radio News in C icago to verify the story as related § by HAROLD DAHL and FRED CRISMANbelegraphed RAY PALMER confirming DAHL's story. 4 RAY PAIMER then engaged KEN BT ENOLD, Boise, Idaho, who was the first to report sighting the flying disc and whom RAY PALER had previously made a contract for a story regarding the flying disc, to come to Tacoma and check the story, ab. related by. FRED CRISMAN and HAROLD DAHL. ee ch KENNETH ARNOLD came to Tacoma, Washington July 30, 1947 and y arranged for a meeting the following day, July 31, with FRED CRISMAN and HAROLD ee AHL in his room 502, Winthrop Hotel, Tacong»fashington. KENNETH ARNOLD also called to attend the meeting Captain EMIL-J.\SMITH, United Airlines Pilot who had also reported seeing flying disc fragments, and Army Intelligence to attend RECORDEI We li hy | LA? . pate! . y NDEXED SA: s4U/ ts / Rit NOV 18 196

Seaeys ‘ s % - August 19, 1947 this meeting... KENNETH ARNOLD, Captain EMIL J. SMITH, FRED CRISMAN, HAROLD DAHL, Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN of Army A-2 Intelligence from Hamilton Field, California, all met in ARNOLD's: room at various times during the afternoon and evening of July 31, 1947. and discussed the flying disc story as related by CRISMAN and DAHL. The Army Intelligence Officers, Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN, left about 2:00 A.M. the morning of August 1, 1947 to. return to Hamilton Field, California for Air Force Day in a B-25-and were carrying some of the reported disc fragments, The left engine on the B-25 burned an exhaust stack which in turn caught the left wing afire, the wing subsequently breaking off and tearing off the tail. The B-25 crashed, killing Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN. However, the Crew Chief and a hitch-hiker parachuted to safety. Intelligence Officers at McChord Field, Washington advised there was no indication of any sabotage. The plane crashed at Kelso, Washington approximately 2:50 A. M, August 1, 1947. Five anonymous calls were received by a reporter, Tacoma Times, and the United Press Wireman, Tacoma, between 11:30 A. M., July 31, 1947 and 5:30 P, M., August: 2, 1947. The first call was to a Tacoma Times reporter approximately 11:30 A. M., July 31, in which the caller stated that there was a meeting taking place at that time in room 502 of the Winthrop Hotel: concerning the disc fragments found on’Maury Island. The second call was. received between 11:00 A. M. and 12:00 noon, August 1, 1947:by the Tacona Times reporter in which the caller advised that at that moment a big meeting was taking place in ARNOLD's. room number 502, Winthrop Hotel; that the B-25 which crashed was carrying disc fragments and that McChord Field officials had stated it was shot down or sabotaged. The third call was recéived Friday, August I, 1947 at 5:30 P. M. by the United Press Wireman, Tacoma, in which the. caller stated that the B-25 which crashed at Kelso, Washington was carrying flying disc fragments and that the dead officers were Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN, A=-2 Intelligence Officers at “amilton Field, California. This call was prior to the release of the dead officers' names by Army authorities and the caller indicated that when the names were released, it-would verify the information he was furnishing was correct.’ The fourth phone call was received at approximately 6:45 P. M., Friday, August 1 by the United Press Wireman in which call the caller stated the B-25 was definitdyshot down and. that if he contacted Army Intelligence officers, they would not. deny it. The fifth phone call was received by the United Press Wireman, Tacoma, at.5:30-P. M. August 2, 1947 at which time the caller stated: the B+25 was shot. down from the:air with a 20 msm. cannon; that the Marine plane found’ recently on Mt. Rainier had also been shot down and that Captain SMITH would be taken to Wright Field Tuesday morning. When. the Army authorities released the names of the dead Intelligence officers which verified.the information as given by the anonymous caller, the Tacoma Times printed this story on August 2, 1947 and carried several articles thereafter inferring that the B-25 had been shot down or sabotaged because of the fact that it was carrying disc fragmerits, DAHL and CRISMAN have admitted that the material which they sent to RAY PALMER had no connection. with any flying discs and have given a signed statement to that effect which are being Ore,

e : - 2 5 . August 19, 1947 forwarded herein, DAHL and CRISMAN deny, however, that they actually started the flying dise story and their actual part in the story. United Airlines pilot, EMIL J, SMITH, states that DAHL-and CRISMAN on July 31, 1947, both related their original flying dise fragment’ story. Information gathered would indicate that the anonymous phone calls were possibly made by. FRED CRISMAN in order to build up the flying disc story to the point where they could make a profitable sale of the story to RAY PALMER, Chicago, Illinois, No facts have been developed which would definitely prove that CRISMAN made these calls. However, from all facts and information gathered, it appears he is probably the most likely to have made the anonymous calls. The detailed interviews of the persons contac- ted in regard to this flying disc story are being set out below, The following investigation was conducted by Special Agent DAVID A.: MacCULLOCH: at Tacoma, Washington on August 6, 7, 1947: ERNTRVOGEL, Associated Press “ireman, Tacoma, Washington, advised that in the early part of June, 1947 he was' requested by the Seattle Pact Intelligencer to check on a story which he was informed had been obtained from the Fire Chief at Harper, Washington. The story was supposed to have originated with FRED CRISMAN. Mr. VOGEL stated that the story was to the effect that DAHL, while patrolling in his boat near Maury Island, saw five or six flying dises, one of which fluttered toward’ the ground and finally disintegrated. Fragments of the disc were reported to have showered down on the boat of HAROLD DAHL, causing some damage and killing his dog. Mr. VOGEL stated that he went to the home of HAROLD BAHL on 3903 North Gove, Tacoma, Washington to check with him on this flying dise story. He stated that as best he could recall, this was just a few days after the first flying disc stories had appeared in the paper and was on a Sunday evening. He believed it was the early part of June. He stated that DAHL took him in the kitchen and proceeded to talk about this flying disc story in low muffled tones. He stated that DAHL acted rather suspicious and that shortly his wife came into the kitchen and was in a considerable rage, telling DAHL to admit that the entire story was a plain fantasy which he had dreamed up. He stated that after his wife told DAHL to admit the entire story was false, that DAHL then admitted that there was nothing whatever to the story and it was an entire hoax. VOGEL stated that in view ef the enraged condition of DAHL's.wife, he immediately left and reported to tne\eeatele Post Intelligencer that. the entire story was a hoax and that they. should not print it in any way, He further ‘stated. that he advised the Seattle Post Intelligencer that DAHL was a mental case and that nothing which he had reported should be carried as far as a news story. Mr. VOGEL stated that since that time he had received repeated requests from the Boise Statesman requesting information as to the flying disc stories reportedly originating with FRED CRISMAN and HAROID DAHL. VOGEL stated that he had never, in his experience, had such pressure brought upon him to release. a news story and that he repeatedly advised the Boise Statesman that the story of seeing the flying discs by DAHL and CRISMAN was a complete fabri- 3s

: , ¥ z = 4 August 19, 1947 cation and should be in no way, carried as a news story and refused to furnish any information regarding these reports. He further stated that he advised the Boise Statesman shortly before, or at the time KENNETH ARNOLD left Boise to come to Tacoma’ to check on the flying disc stories with DAHL and CRISMAN, that ARNOLD should not come as the entire story. was a hoax. The following information was obtained from paupetanrz, 4513 South 7th, Tacoma, Washington, Proctor 8416, a rpporter for the Tacoma Times: It was the Tacoma Times paper which first isstied a story on August-2 and- subsequent stories intimating that the B-25 which crashed at Kelso, Washington on the early morning of August 1, had been sabotaged or shot down because of the fact that it carried flying disc fragments. -LANTZ stated that on Thursday, July 31, at approximately 11:30 A. M. he received an anonymous phone call in which the caller stated that KENNETH ARNOLD and Army Intelligence officers were meeting in room 502 of the Winthrop Hotel to check on the flying disc story from which fragments were obtained on Maury Island, LANTZ stated he turned around to speak to his’ editor and when he picked e*phone again the Line was dead, He stated that the caller asked for Sear a reporter on the Tacoma Times who was out at the time of the call, He stated that BURT McMURTIE called ARNOLD at room 502 in the Winthrop Hotel and was advised by ARNOLD that he could furnish no information as he was there on a Government mission. LANTZ stated that on Friday, August 1, between 11:00 A. M. and noon, he received another phone call for BURT MeMURTIZ in which the anonymous caller stated that he might have some information for him, LANTZ asked the caller if he was not the same party that had called the previous date and he said yes. The caller then related that at that moment there was a big meeting in progress in ARNOLD's room, 502, in the Winthrop Hotel; that the. B-25 which crashed that morning in Kelso was carrying flying disc fragments from California and that MeChord Field officials had stated the plane was sabotaged or shot down, The caller then hung up after making some statement to the effect that he was a switchboard operator. LANTZ stated that he went to the Winthrop Hotel on Friday about noon and found that there was no male operator on duty.’ He stated he then went to. room 502 and ARNOLD answered the door and that Captain EMIL J. SMITH, United Airlines pilot, was on the phone. LANTZ stated thet he heard SMITH make a statement to the effect that the information must be very strictly confidential, He stated that there were one or two others in the room besides SMITH and ARNOLD, but that he could not identify them. He stated that ARNOLD told him he could mae no statement and that he had attenpted to check the story with various people on Maury Island with negative results. He stated that about 3:30 P. M., Friday, he wrote a story regarding the mysterious informant and called ARNOLD at his hotel room, stating that he had written thigsstory and that ARNOLD had better check it. He stated that he talked to TED#MORRELLO, the United Press Wireman, Tacoma, who advised that the story sounded fantastic. LANTZ stated that about 5:30 P. M., Friday, August 1, an anofiymous caller called TED MORRELLO, the ges

orm - ‘ August. 19, 1947 United Press Wireman, stating that Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN were the Intelligence officers that. were killed in the crash of the B~25 and that civilians and the sheriff had been kept away from the wreckage with the Army guarding it. He stated the anonymous caller then said that the names had not been released yet by the Army and that this would verify his statements, PAUL LANTZ stated that the following morning, Saturday, August 2, the Army verified that the officers killed were Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN and two days later verified that they were Army Intelligence officers. LANTZ stated that the anonymous caller again later contacted TED MORRELLO, calling him by that name, and at this time stated he did not call the Tacoma News Tribune or the Associated Press and denied calling PAUL LANTZ or BURT McMURTIE. In this call the anonymous caller stated that, "Don't think I'm doing this for you." He then asked if the story had been put.on the wire and when MORRELLO said yes, the caller stated, "We want this to get back to: New Jersey," The caller further stated that’ the B-25 was shot down by a 20 m.m. cannon and that the marine plane which was recently found wrecked on the side of Mt, Rainier, having been missing for several months,’ had also been shot down. The caller stated to MORRELLO that he should get in touch with a flyer named MORGAN with United Airlines who, he stated, was with Captain SMITH when they were shot at over Montana, The caller then stated, "I'll see you Tuesday. I'm’going to Z San Francisco." LANCE stated that he had checked with Captain EMIL SMITH of United Airlines who denied knowing any pilot by the name of MORGAN; denied ever having*flown over Montana, LANTZ stated that MORRBILO received another anonymous call in which the caller stated that SMITH would be sent to. Wright Field on Tuesday and that Saturday one of the men who found fragments of the flying disc was to be flown to Alaska. “LANTZ stated that in view of the fact that the information as to the Intelligence officers on the B-25 had’ been as furnished by the anonymous caller, had subsequently been verified by the Army, the story was released that the B-25 was carrying disc fragments returning to Hamilton Field, California and furnishing the inference that the plane had.been sabotaged or shot down, LANTZ stated that about 8:00 P, M. on Sunday, August 3, he contacted Captain EMIL SMITH at his home, 3027 West Laurelhurst Drive, Seattle at which time SMITH stated he had not given any: story out to the Post Intelligencer at Seattle; stated that he had gotten a telegram to call a number in Boise and when he called and found out it-was the Boise’ Statesman, he had hung up. He stated that the Boise Statesman then contacted him, at which time he admitted’ he had. seen the disc fragments, but that he did not take any of them. This time SMITH informed’ LANTZ that he had been with Major GEORGE SANDERS, Public Relations Officer from McChord Field, all afternoon until about 3:45 Pe Ms. SMITH informed LANTZ that he had told the Army authorities every- thing that he and ARNOLD knew about the flying disc fragments story from the time that KENNETH ARNOLD left Boise, Idaho and he had left Seattle, Washington. This time SMITH admitted that there were some of the supposed disc fragments in ARNOLD's room at the Winthrop Hotel and that CRISMAN and DAHL had been in the room Thursday afternoon, On Monday PAUL LANTZ stated that he called HAROID DAHL who advised that if this were not used in the paper, he and FRED a Bile

August. 19, 1947 CRISMAN would see him after lunch. LANTZ stated that about noon DAHL and CRISMAN contacted him at which time DAHL stated that he and his son had been exploring a gravel pit on Maury Island and found some strange rock formations. He stated they picked up some of these sonpie= and that. FRED CRISMAN later saw them and they went back over to Maury Island at which time additional samples were obtained and that CRISMAN sent these to a friend of his at the University of Chicago to have analyzed, They stated that they received a report and that apparently this friend had asked a newpaperman to find out where the rock formations were obtained. CRISMAN and DAHL told LANTZ that sometime after the first flying disc story had appeared, they received a tele- gram from Trans-Ocean Press from Chicago wanting infomnation on the flying disc fragments. FRED CRISMAN stated that they had at no time indicated-the rock formations were a part of a flying disc and that Captain pityertra and KENNETH ARNOLD were not. interested in the rock formations and they denied giving them to SMITH and ARNOLD, TED MORRELLO, a United Press Wireman, Tacoma, Washington furnished substantially the same information that was obtained from, PAUL LANTZ, the Tacoma Timés.reporter, regarding the anonymous phone calls which he had received, He stated further that the first call he received was. on Friday, August 1, at around 5:30 P. M.. At this time the caller stated that the B-25 which crashed at Kelso, Washington was carrying disc fragments and that the two officers killed were Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN, officers with Army A#2 Intelligence at Hamilton Field and that the fragments were top secret material. He stated the caller indicated that when the Army released the names of the dead officers it would verify that the information he was furnishing was correct, MORRELLO stated that: the second call he received at approximately 6:45 P. Ms Friday, August 1 at which time the caller’stated that the B=25 was definitely shot down and that if he contacted Amy Intelligence A=2, the man in charge would not deny it. MORRELLO stated he thought the man said to con- tact Colonel GUYS, but it was found out it was.Colonel GREGG who was in charge of Army Intelligence A-2. The caller further stated that the Sheriff's Office had been kept away from the crash and that’no civilians had been allowed near the plane. MORRELLO stated the third call he received at 5:30 P. M., August 2, and that this time the caller stated that one of the men who had been conferring with Captain SMITH and KENNETH ARNOLD was taken to Alaska that day. The caller further stated that the B-25 was shot down from the air with a 20 mem. cannon; that the Marine plane found recently on Mt. Rainier had also been shot down; that Captain SMITH would be taken to Wright Field Tuesday morning and that a United. Airlines pilot by the name of MORGAN flew with Captain SMITH when they were shot at over Montana,. The daller stated he was leaving for San Francisco and would. be back Tuesday. PAUL LANTZ and TED MORRELLO both stated that..they had -made very little effort to* question the anonymous caller to obtain his identity as they felt it was useless and that if they started questioning him he would =6=

> CY ne August 19, 197 refuse to furnish any further information. On August 5, 1947 Special Agent DAVID A, -MacCULLOCH was contacted in the resident agency. office, Tacoma, Washington by PRED CRISMAN. At this time CRISMAN asked if the Seattle Office was investigation the crash of the B-25 and he was informed that no investigation was being conducted by the Seattle Office. CRISMAN at this time related in a rambling story that he had picked up some strange rock formations which he had forwarded to a friend of his in the University of Chicago to have ahalyzed and that later, in some manner unknown to him, these rock formations had been reported as being frag- ments of a flying disc, On August 7, 1947. FRED CRISMAN and HAROLD DAHL were inter- viewed at the Tacoma resident agency office, Both DAHL and CRISMAN at first denied any knowledge of how the rock formations which they had picked up to have alalyzed became connected with the flying disc stories. Both denied making any statement to anyone that these rock formations were portions of a disc fragment. It was apparent from the start of the interview that DAHL and CRISMAN were not telling their complete ‘and true connection with the flying disc. story. They refused to give any definite information as to what they said or had done which caused them to become involved in a flying dise story, but gave evasive answers and repeatedly stated that they had nothing to do with it and were at a loss to understand how they became connected with the flying disc story. After considerable questioning, they stated that in the early part of eo ie sent to RAY PALMER of the Ziff—Davis Publishing Company which published th@\Fantasy magazine in Chicago and the Venture magazine in Evanston, Illinois, some rock formations which they had found on Maury Island. They stated they sent these formations, asking PAIMER to have them analyzed. They stated that later PAIMER wrote and asked for more samples, advising, he had failed to analyze the samples, CRISMAN ard DAHL stated they have never sent any additional samples and that the next they heard regarding the rock formations which they had sent PALMER was when he called HAROID DAHL and asked if the rock formations could have come from a flying disc. DAHL stated. .he made some remark that they possibly could have come from a flying dise and that he immediately sat down and wrote a letter to PALMER, which was in the latter part of June in which he stated the material could have been portions of a flying disc. ‘DAHL claimed that he thought he told PAIMER over the phone something about being in his boat when he obtained these rock formations, but stated he could not recall what he had written to PALMER and claimed that he passed the whole thing off as a joke, CRISMAN “and DAHL were questioned at length in an attempt to obtain specific information as to exactly what each one had done with regard to the rock forma- tions. However, éach stated that the only thing they had done was tell RAY PAIMER the formations could have come from a ‘flying disc in view of the fact it appeared ‘that's what he wanted them to say", No definite information: could be obtained from either DAHL or CRISMAN as to what each specifically had done to start the flying dise story. The signed statement which was obtained from CRISMAN and - 6An

: ‘ $ August 19, 1947 DAHL and in:which they admitted the rock formations had no connection with any flying discs is being forwarded to the Bureau herewith. The statement contains no information of value and therefore is‘not being set forth herein. Regarding the meeting which was held in the Winthrop Hotel on Thursday, July 31, CRISMAN and DAHL stated that they both met KENNETH ARNOLD there about 1:00 P. M. ‘They stated that they all left ARNOLD's room about 3:00 P. M. and that CRISMAN took ARNOLD to Berry's Airport at Tacoma and ARNOLD flew his plane to Seattle where he ‘picked up Captain EMIL SMITH, CRIS~ MAN stated that he picked up ARNOLD and SMITH at Bérry's Airport about 5:00 P, M, and that HAROLD DAHL came to ARNOLD's room about 7:00 P. M. CRIGMAN stated that he and SMITH left about 6:30-P. iM. when he drove SMITH to. Seattle to get his car and that DAHL went home at this time. CRISMAN stated they returned about 11:30 P. M. at which time the Army Intelligence officers were in ARNOLD's room and that CRISMAN left about midnight. He stated that he returned to ARNOLD's room Friday afternoon for approximately one-half hour from 2:30 to 3:00. P. M., at which time ARNOLD and SMITH were still there and neither seemed to be able to recall if DAHL was in ARNOLD's room on Friday, August 1, The best that could be obtained from CRISMAN and DAHL as to what took place in ARNOLD'’s room was to the effect that most of the talk was about flying, that no one seemed very interested in the rock formations and that they had no connection as far'as they knew with any flying disc, CRISMAN Stated that KENNETH ARNOLD wanted to obtain pictures of the place where the rock formations were obtained and that the Amy Intelligence: officers did not appear to be interested in any manner whatever, HAROLD. DAHL operates the Comnercial Lumber Company at 235 Millwater Avenue, Tacoma, Washington and FRED CRISMAN has recéntly been aed working with him buying timber. They have also been associated with theAHarbor Patrol Association at Tacoma, Washington which furnishes patrol and police pro- tection to parts of the harbor area which are not patrolled by: Tacoma police or Sheriff's officers. ‘FRED CRISMAN resides at 125 Woodland, Tacoma, ‘Washington, Amy serial number 0-758-951. During the war he was a pilot and it is believed presently holds a, Reserve Officer's commission as a Captain. Regarding the B=25 which crashed, killing Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN of the 4th Aire Forces, Captain ROBERT G, BJORNING, A-2 Officer, Mc Chord Field, advised that this investigation of the crash reflected an exhaust stack had burned out on the left engine which in turn caught the left wing afire and that when the left wing broke off, it also broke off the tail. The plane at the time of the crash was carrying Captain DAVIDSON, Lieutenant BROWN, the hitch-hiker and a man as Crew. Chief to take care of the airplane.’ The Crew Chief and the hitch—-hiker parachuted to safety, but Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN were killed. He stated that their investigation reflected no indication of any sabotage whatever, A check of the records of the Winthrop Hotel at Tacoma, Washington revealed that KENNETH ARNOLD; giving his address as Route #1, Mount- view Drive, Boise, Idaho rented. room 502 from July 30 at 7:43 P.M. until ey doe

: ‘ “e ve August 19, 1947 August 3, A record of the#phone calls made from room 502 during this period was made by Miss SARABLANGBERG. This record reveals that KENNETH ARNOID on July 31 called PALMER at AN-5200,. Evanston, Illinois, collect. On the same date called Lieutenant BROWN at 5800 Hamilton Field, California, collect, ARNOLD also called 0109-J in Boise, Idaho on July 31. On August 1 ARNOID called LON-4936, Portland; PALMER at Dearborn 5200, Chicago; and: SMITH called RODDY at Dearborn 2323 at Chicago. Both Chicago calls were collect. The remainder of the. calls appear to be personal calls and are not being set out. A record of the phone calls made are being retained as an exhibit in the Seattle Office, The following information was obtained by Special Agent PIGRRE H. LEVEC in interview on August 12, 1947 with Captain MIL J. SMITH, 3027 West Laurehurst Drive, United Airlines pilot: It should be noted that Captain SMITH has previously received publicity for having supposedly seen flying discs or similar objects on July 4, last while on a routine United Air— lines flight out of Boise, Idaho in.company with his co-pilot RALEHT STEVENS, concerning this incident. Captain SMITH states that they took off from Boise, Idaho at 8:12 P. M.-and’ headed Northwest at 300 degrees and while still eLimbing at 8,000 feet, co-pilot STEVENS called his attention to some objects in the sky ahead of them about ten degrees left which neither one could identify. SMITH states that he called a CAA radio operator at Ontario, Oregon and reques- ted him to step outside his radio shack and see if he could see any of these objects overhead, The CAA radio operator replied in the negative. Captain SMITH states that he first, met KENNETH ARNOLD on July 5 in the offices of the Seattle Post Intelligencer where both were being interviewed concerning their sighting of flying discs. SMITH states that he next met ARNOLD about three weeks ago in Boise, Idaho at which time he, SMITH, was on another flight through Boise, Idaho and had a ten minute lay-over there. On this occasion ARVO) was.in company of Captain WILLIAM LYBAVIDSON and Lieutenant. FRANK URERO WN, Army Intelligence officers,-and“a reporter JOHNSON of the|Boise Statesman. SMITH's next contact with ARNOLD was on Thursday, July 31, last when he received a telephone call from ARNOLD calling from Tacoma in the early afternoon at which time he asked SMITH to come over to ‘Tacoma and join him as he was investigating a flying disc story for "someone back Fast" and some fragments were involved which SIMITH might be interested in seeing, After some discussion SMITH agreed to join ARNOLD in Tacoma and ARNOLD told SMITH he would fly over and pick him up at Boeing Airport at 4:00 P.M. SMITH met ARNOLD. at Boeing Field at about 4:00 Ps M. and they flew to Berry's Airport at Tacoma, Washington where they were met by FRED CRISMAN. The three of. then proceeded in CRISMAN's car to the Winthrop Hotel where ARNOLD was occupying room 502, ARNOLD ordered something to eat and during this time either ARNOLD or CRISMAN called a HAROID DAHL and invited him up to the room. By this time SMITH states he had learned from ARNOLD that CRISMAN and DAHL were the parti- cipants in the latest flying disc story and SMITH states that he had no previous acquaintance with either. of these men before méeting them in Tacoma on this date. While in the Hotel Room ARNOLD showed SMITH a letter which he had received from RAYMOND PALMER of the Venture Press ef Chicago requesting that ARNOLD investigate

fe g #35 August 19, 1947 the CRISMAN-DAHL story in Tacoma. ARNOLD informed SMITH at this time’ that after receiving this letter he had called PALMER by telephone in Chicago as a result of which call PALMER had. forwarded him $200.00 expense money for covering the story. Shortly thereafter, at about 7:30 P. M, HAROLD DAHL arrived at the Hotel room and the discussion began among the four men present as to what.DAHL and, CRISMAN had seen on Maury Island. DAHL professed reluc~ tance to tell the story, claiming that several unfortunate incidents had occurred subsequent to his seeing the flying discs and he believed the entire incident had brought him bad luck. In this connection he stated that four or five days subsequent to his sighting the flying dis¢es, a man called at his home and had a conversation with him the course of which DAHL was warned to forget all about everything he had seen on or near Maury Island. In addition to that, DAHL stated that his sixteen year old son had run away from home following the incident and had been picked up by the police somewhere in Montana. After some further discussion DAHL finally agreed to tell his story of the flying disc incident in front of SMITH after eliciting a promise from SMITH that he would not discuss the matter for at least two weeks. It should be noted that DAHL had previously told his story to ARNOLD and CRISMAN, At this point DAHL related the ineident which has already been described and which he alleged had taken place on or about June 23 or 24. While relating the incident DAHL mentioned that: he had taken pictures of the flying disc which he had seen but that the printed films were marred with white spots. When DAHL had concluded his story, CRISMAN related that he had gone the following day to Maury Island to verify what DAHL had told him concerning the fragments and had at this time picked up several fragments and taken them with him. At this time CRISMAN related that he also saw'one of the flying discs hovering over the Island but that it. had disappeared into a cloud. When DAHL and CRISMAN had finished telling their story ARNOLD told the group that he had earlier in that. evening called Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN, Army Intelligence officers and that they were on their way to the.Hotel room. At this point DAHL protested that he did not wish to tell his story’ before anyone else and he was advised by SMITH that if such was the case why didn't he just leave and not be there when they arrived, CRISMAN, DAHL and SIITH then left the room and went downstairs, , DAHL departed alone.'-CRISMAN drove SMITH back to Boeing Field near Seattle where SMITH desired to pick up his own personal car, which he’ did. They then returned to the Hotel where they found Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN in room 502 with KENNETH ARNOLD, ARNOLD met them at the door and seemed excited, explaining to SMITH that Captain DAVIDSON had just drawn a reproduction of a.freak disc which had supposedly been seen by a woman in Arizona and that this drawing was an exact reproduction of the flying disc which he, ARNOLD, had seen several weeks before, nearing Mt. Rainier, SMITH states. that shortly after this CRISMAN seemed very anxious to tell his and DAHL's story to the Army offi- cers. Before this was done, however, SMITH had a discussion with Lieutenant BROWN, informing him that they had promised DAHL not to release the story for two weeks and that if CRISMAN were allowed to tell the story at this time, BROMN and DAVIDSON must agree not to release the story for one month. Following this agreement, CRISMAN related DAHL's and his story of the flying discs over Maury Siw

es ve August 19, 1947 Island to BROWN and DAVIDSON, . Following this recitation, Lieutenant BRO iN, in answer to a query from SMITH; said that he and Captain DAVIDSON were of the opinion thet there ‘might be :some truth in the current flying disc stories, but thet their inmediate superiors (presumably A-2 at Hamilton Field) did not agree with them, BROWN and DAVIDSON then held a brief discussion as to whether they should return that same hight to Hamilton Field and they decided that they would. All five of the men then went down to: the lobby where BROWN detached himself from the group and entered a phone booth to call for a car from McChord Field. SMITH-also left the group. and met BROWN outside the phone booth where they held a short discussion relative to the credibility of CRIS- MAN and DAHL's story. BROWN indicated to SMITH that he should attemt to find out if the story was on the level and that BROWN would call him the following day regarding this matter. The group then proceeded.to the front of the Hotel at which time CRISMAN brought his car to the front of the Hotel and took fron his trunk a box of the alleged flying disc fragments picked up on Maury Island. He offered them to BROWN and DAVIDSON and when the “Army car arrived from McChord Field the box of fragments was placed in the car with the officers. CRISMAN departed alone and ARNOLD. and SMITH went in search. of something to eat and later returned to the Hotel for the night. On Friday morning, August’ 1, 1947, ARNOLD received a call from CRISMAN informing him that a B-25 had crashed during the night and it was believed to be the same plane which BROWN and DAVIDSON were flying. Following this call CRISMAN and DAHL came to the Hotel room and from the room CRISMAN again called McChord Field in an attempt to get. information about the crash. SMITH took the phone from CRISMAN and spoke to a Colonel GREGG, identifying himself and asking if the B-25 which crashed was the only one which had taken off from McChord Field the previous night, GREGG told him that it’ was, Follow- ing this call ARNOLD called RAYMOND PALMER in Chicago and informed him of the previous night's conversations and the fact that’ DAVIDSON and BROJIN were believed to have been killed. PALMER told ARNOID to discontinue his investigation of the incident and. that he, PALMER, was no longer interested. SMITH then took the phone from ARNOLD and asked PAIMER if he could shed any light on the situation, SMITH was unable to say what PALMER's reply to, CRISMAN wase Fol- lowing these telephone discussions S{ITH says that he called Aetna whom he identifies as a personal friend of His and an aviation editor ‘of the Chicago Times, SMITH states that he had prefiously made an agreement with RODDY in Chicago that, should he ever run across any flying disc stories which showed promise of news value, that he would contact. RODDY and this call‘was a result of that agreement. Shortly afterward, Colonel GREGG called him from McChord Field stating that Hamilton Field had requested that ARNOLD, SMITH, CRISMAN and DAHL submit their addresses to Hamilton Field for convenience of any Army: investigation-of the incident which may be forthcoming, After this call the four men went to a restaurant for lunch. During the course of this meal SMITH excused himself from the table and attempted to call SAC BOBBITT of the Port— land - Field Office, Federal Bureau of Investigation with whom he claims acquain- tance. BOBBITT, however, was unavailable and SMITH was unable to complete the 1D tw

f % , August 19; 1947 call, After returning to the Hotel room, a Tacoma Times reporter called attempting to gain information, but they did not give him any, later, a Mr. MORRELLO of the United Press called and SMITH spoke to him on the telephone but refused to give out any information, SMITH further relates that while the four men were in the room at this time, an envelope was shoved under the door and that he retrieved it from the floor, SMITH states that the appearance of this envelope seemed to startle CRISMAN considerably and that in fact, CRIGMAN turned white as a sheet until SMITH read the note unsigned which was a comnu= nication to the Hotel advising that a strike of Hotel employees was eminent and * that’ guests should not expect room and telephone service:much longer. Shortly after this incident DAHL and CRISMAN left the Hotel room after promising to take ARNOLD and. SMITH to’ Maury Island the’ following morning, (Saturday). ARNOLD and SMITH then went out for dinner and on their return, SMITH found a note in the box requesting him to call a certain telephone number. He did this fron the Hotel room and was answered by LANTZ, Tacoma Times reporter who requested SMITH to go out and call him from a pay station.” SMITH complained and ‘was informed by LANTZ that two anonymous telephone: calls had-been received by him that a discussion regarding flying discs had’ been taking place in room 502 at the Winthrop Hotel which involved Army Intelligence officers. From the information which LANTZ had received, SMITH was convinced that the anonymous caller must have been present at the discussion also, as LANTZ was seemingly in possession of pertinent remarks which had been made in the room. SMITH states that he did not give LANTZ any further information and that. in conclu- sion of the call, he returned to the Hotel room and he and ARNOLD retired for the night. On Saturday morning, August.2, 19/7 SMITH redeived a tele~ phone call from MAURICE RODDY in Chicago, but’ was unable to give him any further information, SMITH advised him, however, that he would call him back at 2:30 that afternoon. DAHL then called from a°coffee shop nearby and ARNOLD and SMITH joined DAHL, CRISMAN and an unknown man in the Coffee Shop for breakfast. The unknown person was discussing some lumber business with DAHL and left after breakfast, On leaving the coffee shop, SMITH asked’ DAHL about the negatives of the photographs which he claimed to have taken of the flying discs, DAHL said the negatives were in the glove compartment of his car, but a search of the instant glove. compartment was fruitless. The four then pro- ceeded in CRISMAN's car to the dock where they were to embark for Maury Island, The boat, however, could-not. be started and the trip was postponed until later in the day. “hile at the dock, however, SMITH asked to be shown the damage to the_boat which had allegedly occurred when the fragments showered dowm on Maury Island. CRISMAN pointed out what may have been repairs to the windshield and lights on the boat, but SMITH was not personally satisfied thet these repairs were made as a result of any such incident, CRISMAN and DAHL then drove ARNOLD and SMITH back to the Hotel at approximately 10:45-A. M. and CRISMAN told them he would call them later on and that they would go to Maury Island, On return- ing to.the Hotel, SMITH called LANTZ at the Tacoma Times as a result of. which call he and ARNOLD met LANTZ at the Coffee Shop across the street from the wae

: “ &s August 19, 1947 Jinthrop Hotel... SMITH stated that the purpose of this meeting was to try to find out something more about the anonymous phone calls which LANTZ had told him about. He and ARNOLD still refused to give out any further information regarding the Thursday evening conference to LANTZ and were informed by LANTZ that the Tacoma Times was afraid of being scooped on the story and was going to print something on that day. SMITH and ARNOLD then returned to the Hotel and shortly thereafter received a phone call from CRISMAN. but the call was cut off by the switchboard operator since it was not an ehergency eall, SMITH and ARNOLD then returned to the Hotel lobby where they found a telegram from DAHL asking them to call him at either Broadway or Proctor 7733, GfITH is not sure of the exchange. SMITH called this number, but DAHL was not there. SMITH states that he’ went then to the Western Union Telegraph Office and dispatched a collect telegram to MAURICE RODDY at the Chicago Times which contained a brief resume of. the incidents which had. occurred and which requested RODDY to wire SMITH a telephone number where RODDY could be reached after 6:00 P. M. SMITH states that he has never received an answer to that wire. Following this, SMITH states that he and ARNOLD that he and ARNOLD were sitting in the lobby of the Olympic Hotel when LANTZ entered and gave them each a copy of the latest edition .of the Tacoma Times which contained a story hinting. at sabotage in the crash of ‘the. Army B=25 which killed Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN. SMITH stated that he and ARNOLD continued to occupy seats in the Hotel lobby most of the afternoon inasmuch as they were unable to receive calls in the Hotel room due to the Hotel employees’ strike, He rélates that he received a call in the late afternoon from LANTZ advising him to call LANTZ that evening at $:30.as LANTZ had further information regarding the anonymous-calls, SMITH also received a telegram requésting that he call Boise 6000 which he did and found that it was JOHNSON of the Boise Statesman. He refused to give JOHNSON any further information at this time, However, shortly thereafter, JOHNSON called from Boise and advised SMITH that the Army had released a story through Brigadier General SHRAM revealing the. confidential assignment which BROWN and DAVIDSON had been engaged on, . In view of this reléase, JOHNSON requested SMITH to answer one question for him which was, "Were they carrying any alleged dise fragments on the plane?" and SMITH answered, "Yes, they: were." Following this SMITH called LANTZ as-per his earlier request and was informed that MORRELLO of the Uniited Press had received another anonymous phone call at which time "the voice" said that the Army B=25 carrying Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN had been shot down with 20 m.m, shells and thatthe Marine plane found on Mt. R&inier had also been shot down with 20 m.m. shells, «The voice went on to state that SMITH would be called back to Wright Field on Tuesday. When MORRELLO asked why he was giving out this information the caller replied that it was not for the benefit. of the newspapers, but that he was interested in seeing that the information got back’to’New Jersey. The voice also informed MORRELLO at this time that one of the two persons who had been talking to ARNOLD and SMITH had now left for Alaska. As a result of this latter bit of information SMITH dedided to find out if CRISMAN or DAHL had left town, He located DAHL at the Sunset Theatre and DAHL came to the Hotel and met SMITH and ARNOLD. They were unable to locate’ CRISMAN by phone and DAHL left saying that he would try to find out where CRISMAN was and that he would call them tomorrow (Sunday) and that they would go out to Maury Island at that time. After DAHL left, Ps Ee

Sg. aes 4 3 : oe < August 19, 1947 SMITH and ARNOLD went to the Tacoma Times Office where a reporter met them and took then to MORRELLO in the United Press Office, There they read the latest press’ releases and had a discussion with MORRELLO regarding the anony- mous phone calls, In the course of this discussion MORRELLO mentioned the name of Major GEORGE SANDERS, Public Relations Officer at McChord Field as being one of the officers, interested in the investigation. Following this discussion with. MORRELLO, at which time SMITH states they still refused to divulge any further information, SMITH and ARNOLD returned to the Hotel for the night. On: Sunday morning, August. 3, 1947, DAHL appeared at the Hotel room and told’ them that he had received a letter from CRISMAN which said in effect,."Take care of my business, I'll be out of town for three or four days." DAHL had a letter with him but he did not show it to SMITH or ARNOLD. The three men then drove to DAHL's secretary's house in South Tacoma’ and picked her up and the four of them then went to breakfast on the South Tacana highway. While the four of them then went to breakfast SMITH excused himself and called Major SANDERS at McChord Field and arranged an appointment to meet him at the Hotel lobby at 11:00 A. If, They then took DAHL's secretary to her home where DAHL picked up a typewriter and then drove SMITH and ARNOLD back to the Hotel, They asked him if he was going to take them to Maury Island thet day and he replied that he was not. He further stated that he was sick of the entire business and that if he was ever contacted by the Amy or the authorities he was going to deny ever having seen anything and claim to be "the biggest liar that ever lived", Shortly after returning to the Hotel, SMITH: met Major SANDERS in the lobby and they went in SMITH's car to a coffee shop in South Tacoma where SMITH proceeded to tell Major SANDERS the entire story of the incidents which had*oceurred in Tacoma regarding the CRISMAN and DAHL story since Thursday. afternoon. Following this, SMITH took Major SANDERS: back to the Hotel and intro- duced him to ARNOLD and suggested to ARNOLD that he also tell Major SANDERS the entire story of what had: occurred. ARNOLD did.so, Major SANDERS after looking at the fragments which.were. still in the room suggested that they drive out: to the Smelter near Tacoma as he believed the slag at the: Smelter would bear a distinct resemblance to these fragnents, The three men then drove to the Smelter and the slag was noted: to be definitely similar to the fragments which CRISMAN and DAHL had left in the Hotel room. . They, then returned to the Hotel room and Major SANDERS left them. After packing their bags, SMITH took ARNOLD to Berry's Airport where his plane was parked and then SMITH drove himself back to Seattle. About an hour. after his arrival in Seattle, which was approximately 7:30 P. M., LANTZ of the Tacoma Times appeared at SMITH's home with the newspaper containing the Associated Press story which had originated in Boise, Idaho in the Boise Statesman and which was written by JOHNSON. following SMITH's admission to him that fragments had been carried by Lieutenant BROWN and Captain DAVIDSON on-the fatal B-25 flight. SMITH at this time’ continued to refuse to give any statements for the Press and told LANTZ that he had placed ear a

Tess ae y y ~ ‘ ca Atigust 19; 1947 all of his information ini the hands of the Army. SMITH, stated that a. couple of days later he called Major SANDERS at McChord Field and asked him if there was any recent information concerning the incident. SMITH states that Major SANDERS informed him that CRISMAN had not. yet been. contacted, but that the Federal Bureau of Investigation was "setting a trap for-him". SMITH further advises that on Friday, August 8, 1947, he appeared before Lawyer JOHN NOLAN at the County-City Building, Seattle and made a deposition of the facts relating to the incidents in Tacoma from Thursday afternoon, July 31, last until Sunday morning, August 3, last. A copy of this deposition is now in possession of the writer and is being forwarded herewith.to the Bureau. It should be noted that this deposition is in no way as complete as the statement taken by the writer above and any setting out of this deposition in this communication would be. superfluous, Copies of this communication are being sent to the Butte, Portland, San Francisco and Chicago Offices for their information only. Unless advised by the Bureau to the contrary, instant investigation is considered closed by this office. For the information of the Bureau, Captain R. G. BJORNING, Intelligence Officer, McChord Field, Ft. Lewis, Washington advised at the weekly 0.N.I,-S.1.D.-F.B.I. Intelligence conference that the Public Relations Officer at McChord Field had received a telephone call from an individual at Army Air Forces Headquarters at Washington, D. C., during which call the Public Relations Officer was requested to obtain a signed statement from DAHL and CRISMAN which could be published and thus publicly close the matter. Captain BJORNING further related that he had no additional information in this matter and that he did not handle it. Very truly yours, VIC es B. WILCO¥ Special Agent \ harge DAM sPHL sMEK 100-1894.5 CC - Butte Portland San Francisco Chicago aR ay

August 8,1947 HAROLD. A. DAHL and FRED CRISMAN make the followi foluntary statement to SA DAVID A. MAC CULLOCH of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In the eatly part of J 1947 picked up some strange rock formations froma gravel pit on Maury Island, Washington. We-sent a-box (cigar) of these fragments to RAY PALMER of Venture Magazine at Evanston Illinois Later PALMER wrote and asked for additional samples stating that he had failed to have them analyzed. Around the later part of June a few days after the first dise stories started PALMER contacted us by phone. He told us not to tell the news- papers dhout the fragments and he would pay for an exclusive story if the fragments could be fram a flying disc. One of us told him the fragments could have been from a flying disc. Just after our phone conversation HAROLD DAHL wrote a letter to RAY PALMER setting out some notes etc. regarding the fragments and indicating they could have come from flying discs. The next thing we heard was about the first of July when we got a Trans Ocean Press telegram from Chicago asking mak about these flying disc @ragments. We told them to Zorget the entire matter. The next we heard of these fragments was when we were called by KENNETH ARNOLD to meet with him in the Winthrop Hotel on Duly 31,1947 We told him exactly how we had found the fragments and had forwarded them to PALMER to be ahalyzed. The above is the entire and true story as regards our connection with the flying disc stories etc. whicbOriginated over the ore samples which we sent to be analyzed. fe : = ¢ _—

STATE OF WASHINGTON ) ss : COUNTY OF KING } d. E. SMITH, being first duly sworn, on oath, deposes and says: This is a narrative statement as to what took place in Tacoma from Thursday, July 31 until Sunday, August 3. Thursday I received a telephone call from Tacoma from a Kenneth Arnold. The gist of this conversation was that he thought it would be a good idea for me to come to Tacoma and listen to the story of two men whose names were Fred Crismon and Harold Dahl. This Kenneth Arnold I had met two times previous -= once on July 5 at the office of the P.I. in Seattle for a very brief time and the second time in Boise, Idaho when I was passing through on one of my trips. In this conversation with Arnold on the phone, I made the statement that it would be impossible for me to go over to Tacoma due to my going out to Salt Lake City the next morning. He said that he would fly over from Tacoma and pick me up at Boeing Field. I agreed to this proposition from Arnold. At 4o'clock I met Arnold at the Boeing Field and we flew back and landed at Barry's Airport. We were picked up at the airport by Fred Crismon, who drove the two of us into the Winthrop Hotel. We went up to Room 502 ~~ Crismon, Arnold and myself. Fred Crismon put a telephone call into Harold Dahl and asked him would he come up to the room. A half hour later Harold Dahl made his appearance. At this time there were four men in the room -- Crismon, Dahl, Arnold, and myself. Mr. Arnold asked Mr. Dehl to relate his story as to what took place on June 24. Mre Dahl was very hesitant about telling the story to me. Arnold and Mr. Crismon were already aware of the statements that Dahl had made previous. Mr. Dahl made the statement to me that if any statements he would make relative to his story, if I would keep it confidential for two weeks, that he felt definitely that I would want to forget ; the whole thing. I made the statement to Mr. Dahl that as far as I was concerned, I would keep any statements he made to me confidential for at least two weeks. Here is Dahl's story: On June 24 (this date to be checked later) he was in a boat owned by Fred Crismon, who owns the Harbor Patrol in Tacoma. They -~ Mr. Dahl, a Mr. Knight, and Mr. Dahl's son age 16, were cruising around Maury Island looking for logs that had broken away from booms. They were fairly close to shore of Maury Island when they saw four or five objects in the sky at an altitude of approximately 1500 feet. He said these objects were

Page #2 100 feet in diameter, circular in shape, and it appeared that there was a hole in the center of each as he could see the sky through this hole. He also mentioned that on the inside of the circle or the hole, that portholes were visible. Their speed was neglizible as they appeared to hover over a given spote One of these objects appeared to be in trouble. Another object came over and appeared to make contact. After making this contact for approximately two minutes, it rose to its original position. At this time the object that appeared to be in trouble seemed to throw a lot of debris from one of the portholes, These objects then Gisappeared from view. Some of this debris that landed broke in the wheelhouse of the boat, the spotlight, and the klexons While this debris was falling, my boy and Mr. Knight got off the boat and hid under some logs. This debris that fell killed our dog and a sea gull. I asked Mr. Dahl what was done with the doge He made the statement they threw the dog into the water. This story was told to Mr. Crismon, who the next day went out to this Island to check on this story. He verified the fact of the damage to the boat, also to the fact that there appeared to be quite a few pieces of either rock or metal on the shore. Mr. Crismon also stated that while he was over there investigating on Maury Island, he also saw a disk. This disk was of the same shape and contour as the objects explained by Mr. Dahl. At this point Mr. Arnold clarified for me as to the reasons he was investigating this story. Mr. Arnold stated that he received a letter from a Mr. Raymond Palmer, supposedly editor of the Venture Press, Evanston, Illinois. The gist of this letter was that Mr. ‘i Palmer received a letter from Mr. Dahl and Mr. Crismon, also a package of these fragments that were found on Maury Island. Mrs Palmer also made the statement in the letter that the Chicago University failed to analyze these fragments and that would Mr. Arnold please investigate the story. Mr. Arnold was sent a Western Union check for $200.00 to take care of any expense that he might incur while making this investigation. b Mr. Arnold had made a telephone call to Hamilton Field to contact a Captain Davidson and a Lieutenant Brown, who were with A~2 Intelligence at Hamilton Field, asking them would they make a ’ trip to Tacoma to also listen to this story of Dahl and Crismon. When Mr. Arnold acquainted me with the fact that he had made this phone call in front of Mr. Dahl, Mr. Dahl made the statement that he would not tell this story to anybody in Army Intelligence. I made the statement to Mr. Dahl that if he felt this way, that he should not be in the room when these two Intelligence officers arrived. Mr. Dahl thought this was an excellent idea.

Page #3 Mr. Dahl, Mr. Crismon, and myself left the hotel room to go downstairs as Mr. Crismon wanted to get some metal that was in the back of his car that he had picked up on Maury Island, to bring back to the hotel roome Mr. Harold Dahl departed. At this time I mde the statement to Mr. Crismon that I should like to pick up my car in Seattle. Mr. Crismon drove me to Bosing Field, Seattle. After leaving me at Boeing Field, he drove back to Tacoma and I drove my own car back to Tacoma. After I had put my car in the garage at Tacoma, I went up to the Winthrop Hotel and in the room at that time was Mr. Arnold, Mr. Crismon, and Captain Davidson from Army Intelligences Lieutenant Brown was downstairs — 4 getting sandwiches and coffee. When Lieut. Brown came back, the stories were again related and Lieut. Brown made a statement that all the facts of these stories would be held in strictest confidence until released by Mr. Dahl. After Mr. Crismon had told all the facts, relating not only his own story but that of Mr. Dahl, he asked for the opinion of both officers as to what they thought. Lieut. Brown made the statement that he would like to obtain some of these fragments to take back to Hamilton Fields At this time Capt. Davidson and Lieut. Brown were debating the thought as to whether to stay over night in Tacoma or leave for Hamilton Field immediately, as the B-25 they were flying was supposed to be at Hamilton Field the next day for the Air Show. The five of us then left the hotel room and went down to the hotel lobby where Mr. Brown made a telephone call to McChord Field asking them to send a driver to pick up Capt. Davidson and himself. Lieut. Brown came up to me and made the statement that he and Capt. Davidson were going back to Hamilton Field and that he would get in touch with me tomorrow and if after I had seen the fragments on Maury Island, if I thought in my own mind that this was authentic, they would immediately leave Hamilton Field and returne I was to hold this statement by Lieut. Brown in the strictest of confidence from the other group of three (Dahl, Crismon, and Arnold). We then went down to the street where Mr. Crismon drove his car up in front and took out a box of fragments and gave this box to- Davidson and Browne. While waiting for the driver from McChord Field, Lieut. Brown and I discussed Pacific operations and things not pere ae this mission. Capt. Davidson and Lieut. Brown departed at app: tely 12:45 AsM. Mr. Arnold and I went back to our hotel room after having a midnight snack.

Page #4 Friday the lst: At approximately 8 o'clock in the morning, Mr. Crismon called up our hotel room and acquainted us with the fact that the B-25 had crashed. Also that he had called McChord Field and from information he received also verified the fact that the two men in the ship were Capt. Davidson and Lieut. Brown, plus a flight engineer and a hiteh=hiker, This left both Mr. Arnold and myself in a very bad state of concern. Approximate- ly an hour later Mr. Crismon and Mr. Dahl made their appearance in the hotel room. I still wasn't sure that this was the same B=25 that the two Intelligence officers had left in last night. Mr. Crismon then again called McChord Field and talked to a Colonel Gregg and the fact was verified again that the two pilots were Davidson and Browne si After an hour or so Mr. Crismon and Mr. Dahl left the hotel room with a plan in mind of the four of us meeting the next morning (Saturday) for breakfast and going out to Maury Island. That evening (Friday) there was a message for me to call this particular telephone number that was on the message. I called this number and was asked by the party to please call them from a paystation.s This party was a Mr. Lantz, a reporter on the Tacoma Times. He told me, "I most certainly am doing myself out of a good story but I thought you ought to know that somebody has been calling this paper and giving us a blow-by~blow description of all that has taken place in your room since you arrived." To verify this, Mr. Lantz repeated back to me discussions that I felt had only been taking place in our room. Mr. Lantz also made the statement that there was a leak either from the switchboard operator or our room had been tapped. I asked Mr. Lantz why he was tipping us off with this information. He made the statement that he didn't mind doing this if in return that any information that I may let out would be given to him. After this conversation with Mr. Lantz I went back to our room and told Mr. Arnold. what took place on the telephone. Saturday morning: Mr. Arnold and I met Mr. Dahl and Fred Crismon for breakfast. We then drove out to the boat to go to the island. The boat was unserviceable at the time so we went back to the hotel. Mr. Crismon said that he would call later on in the day and let us know when the boat would be repaired. That was the last time I saw Mr. Crismon. Approximately 11 o'clock Saturday morning Mr. Crismon phoned me and made the statement it would be impossible for him to keep this appointment with mee We were cut off by the switchboard operator as this was classified as not an emergency call. The reason we were cut off was due to a strike in all the Tacoma hotels.

. - Page #5 Mr. Lantz called up and said if I would call him at 8:30 that evening, he would have some additional information for me. I called Mr. Lantz at 8:30 that evening. He told me that this anonymous caller had again called a Mr. Marillo of the United Press and said that one of the parties that Mr. Arnold and I had come down to see was flown to Alaska. Also he mde the state- ment Mr. Smith would be called to Wright Field Tuesday. This anonymous caller made the statement to Mr. Marillo that this B-25 was shot down. Mr. Marillo asked this person calling what his interest was. This anonymous caller made a statement - "Don't think I am doing it for the newspapers. All I am interested in'is seeing that this information gets back,to New Jersey." After I finished the conversation with Mr. Lantz, I went over to the United Press and talked with Mr. Marillo and had him read back to me the conversations that he had had with this anonymous caller. But no opinions at this time were voiced either by me or Mr. Marillo. Sunday morning I called a Major Sander of S-2 McChord Field and asked him to meet me at the Winthrop Hotel at 11 o*clock. I met this Major Sander at 11 o'tclock and we drove to a small coffee shop on the Tacoma Highway where this complete story was related to him by mes. We then drove back to the Winthrop Hotel where Major Sander was introduced to Mr. Arnold by me and again listened to * Mr. Arnold's story. Mr. Arnold and I departed from the Winthrop Hotel Sunday afternoon at approximately 4:30. This is to certify that the foregoing statement was taken before me, a notary public; that prior to making said statement, the witness. was first sworn to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth; that the statement was then reduced to writing and signed by me on the day of August, 1947. IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto set my hand and official seal the day and year last above written. Notary Public in and for the State : of Washington, residing at Seattle.

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e STANDARD Form no. oi * te @ ® { 3 é + ‘ Office Memorandum + onirep states GOVERNMENT TO : 5 Director, FBI - AIR MAIL DATE: August 26, 1947 2 FROM ; SAC, San Francisco ty) sonjeeT-\eromts OF FLYING Discs There are being transmitted herewith to the Bureau photostatic copies ~of three reports received from Lieutenant Colonel DONALD=SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, involving reported sightings of flying, idises. ( 4 tL a The Los Angeles Office is being furnished with a photostatic copy of/ the report of Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER dated August 18, 1947 concerning the (/ investigation conducted at the Muroc Flight Test Base, Muroc, California. The Butte Office is being furnished with a photostatic copy of the report of Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER dated August 20, 1947 which sets forth a letter received from Mr. R. JeMADDEN, Division Plant Engineer, Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company, Helena, Montana. This office is maintaining contact with Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER and will furnish the Bureau with a subsequent report from him concerning the ob- servations of Mre RAY A,»SWITZER, Sacramento, California, who has reported certain observations which he believes may involve a flying dise at Placerville, California, on August 14, 1947. eeenna ne aS nena EMK :EMB Ss . Enclosures - 3 eat ee ce Los Angeles (with enclosure) Pa 5 pel Butte (with enclosure) K/h r ' ¢ a pg/ f #7) oe 4 ) ey,

oe onal Sage AUR oO ela es a ery = rece 7 eis CONFIDENTIAL | foun ~AADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE.) Hs eas 1 } Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2- | rows SES ca SS SCR escent | Kn Hamilton Field, California — j ‘Tre Investigation of Flying Dise. Invesrication maps ar MUroc AAP, Muroc, Calif, | Coxtnottixe orrice Air Defense Command, Mitchel Field. | } Fre No..2208el rs cover... 8. duly 1947 siete EI Rath | | Casi ~ Incident : bs Latah | REASON FOR INVESTIGATION: Investigation initiated at request of Air Defense Command | reference ltr Hq ADC, dtd 7 Jul 47, file DS33.5 ID, subj: Investigation of Flying Disc, SYNOPSIS: | On 8 July 1947, approximately 1000 hours, two incidents occurred in the vicinity | of Muroc Flight Test Base. | | No further investigation of these incidents is being considered by this headquarters, | | Distrisution Cortes APPROyED: af Cua i WALD Ly SPRINGER, Y¥. Col., GS STIS 2 eek Se ag of S, “Kee { | yy, FBI, S.Fe 1 IEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATI | Es ieeens is eae |. &S.0F) STICE e “ Bere eet ee et AUG 21197 | | } ia SAN FRANCIS" « e t W.D., P.M. G. Form No. 110 cexemenriat olin” Oi ov 1 Apeil 1946, paedin ee acaERT 0 (0 ce Re ee

4 eres 4 : é ess BY = | eee ca APRIDAVIT sae ; ae eae saeen| be Fl he Sx, tint ee Sy : The following is a statement given orslly by Colone: ti 5 jsSehee i | Commanding Officer, Muroe Army Air Field, Muroc ae Cali fornia.’ piven dl sie Ee pees Ceptain Harry D. Black, Intelligence Officer, on 11 August 1947. Ae i nh _ Colonel Gilkey, stated that the obje ie pe one ce eee | | t a8 8 Star gd te signifionnee or the objeste mot imortant _ Colonel to make any further reports jus ete. ot (arcade tee eo ee ees | | @ i ane 2 | RE a ee or hee 0 Us ane vs uw | Sopa dicate pcastank Aes aiohs Fen. ty vo without any ¥ _ Sareats or promises under-duress. This pts cea Pome te | c5 Peees and Ss vee to the best of my \mowledre end beliete Rei aka cae Wen se satee Ne [ha arenes ted ase te ¥. iter a feeaeae ‘ “J P FORE Res oe Pe ty Per H j eile _ GAPISHARRY D. BLACK, MAC Peseta pee Tepe gat Hii eee a iatpet ee Plo UNE ena Seale Ph ER ee sou anal eg ater sail ETT Sa FL Cast Rc ae Nh | : se aouuacur tt see baste st | eee aa ree Ay Mes SA git STU RSA EM ies Pree CURE, TCH

ie : FOMDINGEATIAT Pes Fan hear NE AVIGINA LAL 7 eye | £ inne. S ~) ) : nf | | | 3 | AFFIDAVIT | | { STATE OF CALIFORNIA) | COUNTY OF KERN) ° | The following is a statement given by Major Richard R. Shoop, : Office of Chief of Tech. Engineering Division, Muroc Army Air Field, i Muroc, California, statement given on 11 duly 1947. | At approximately noon on 8 July 1947, my attention was called to an } object in the air by Colonel Gilkey. I observed between five (5) and | eight (8) miles to the North what appeared to be a thin metallic object. 7 It appeared to be metallic because the method in which it was flying caused | the sun to reflect like an apparently aluminum colored surface. The object | moved from an intermediate altitude in an oscillating fashion, almost to | ‘ the surface of the ground and then started climbing again. It climbed to | . & fairly high altitude and moved off slowly into the distance. The object \ appeared to be the size of a pursuit airplane but did not have the shape of a | conventional plane. The time that the object was in view was approximately | eight (8) minutes. ‘his sane object was seen by my wife at the same time. | This statement has been given freely and voluntarily without any threats ! or promises under duress. This statement consists of one (1) page, and is the truth to the best of my kmowledge and belief. I have initialed all corrections deemed necessary. | y s/s richard r. shoo “MAJOR, RICHARD £ SHOOP, AC WITNESS: i s/s_thomas a. memillan “THOMAS A. HC MILLAN eee OMWNIDINONITT A Tt ae ’ WWINE LIVIUING Iti ie cits ONG OE Ne ee)

1 ‘ r 8000 feet. could not hear a motor 3 r pl ef it could not have been a balloon. 1t nd i this was no hallucination. “TSA IGREDT WOOT, 3/SGT JOSE VOLO

[rn es ~ 1 ¢ ; 3 SYARTTITIATAATOT AT 5 - ii Ete ars Jom ated: Poin PINES LE 2a f ft ®. | rs 5 eS bad : a BP; t stl Pinatas P AFFIDAYVIZ | STATE OF CALIFORNIA ) | COUNTY OF KERN ) | The following is a stetement given by lst. Lt. Joseph ©. “icllenry, | Billeting Officer, Muroc Army Air Field, Muroo, California, statement | given on 11 July 1947, to Mr. Thomas A. McMillan, CIC S/A. this Station. The following statement concerning the actual observance of what has } been termed as a "Plying Disc" or ea "flying Saucer" is true and correct and | it will be noted that the above mentioned observance was made by me per- | sonally while enjoying complete health in mind and body. | On Tuesday 8 July 1947, at approximately nine-thirty A.M. (09:30) | I was in conversation with personnel in the Post Exchange Office. My part | of this conversation was as follows: i , | "Someone will have to show me one of these Disc before I will | ; believe it.” | Upon leaving the Post Exchange, I went directly to my Office and ve- ] | fore entering heard one of our local aircraft in the traffic pattern. t Looking up, as I always do I observed the aircraft, and looked slightly f to the left, whereupon I observed two (2) silver objects of either a | spherical or disc-like shape, moving about three hundred (300) miles an hour, or perhaps less, at approximately eight thousand (8000) feet, heading at about three hundred twenty degrees (520°) due north. | When I first observed these objects I celled S/Sgt. Gerald ©. Nauman, | | T/Set. Joseph Ruvolo and Miss Jannette Marie Scotte who immediately came | to where I was standing. I pointed in the direction of the objects and | asked them the question "Tell me what you see up there." Whereupon, all K the three (3) with sundry coments stated, "They are flying Disc". To further verify my observance I asked them to tell me in what direction the objects were travelinz, without indicating their direction myself, and again, all three (3) in a consistent nature stated thet the objects were moving | toward Mojave, California. : ‘ I had time to look away several times and renew my vision of the objects | to make sure that there were not any results of eye strain, or in any nature | an optical illusion. The objects in question were not repeat, were not air- i eraft, the objects could not have been woather balloons released from this <i station, since they were traveling against the prevailing wind, and since the speed at which they were traveling end the horizontal direction in which they were traveling, disqualified the fact that they were weather balloons. ; . CONFIDENTIAL Shiet 2 eae ee

iu * MYNIDIMEAITT A T . | } : ok ON MINE DN ay * ‘ (@y | ba ° ® Cop, ba After the observance of these phenomenon and hoping that I might have time to enlist further witnesses, I immediately ran into the dispensary to | get personnel who are Medical Officers to verify, for my own curiosity, the | | | actual observance of these objects, but by the time I reached the back porch 4 | of the dispensary, Mrs. A. C. Naum, who is a registered nurse, and about | sevon (7) other personnel were with me, the objects, had by that time, dis-. | } appeared, due to the speed with which they were traveling. Upon further ' : investigetion, two (2) of us at the same time sighted another odject of a | silver spherical or dise-like nature at approximately eight thousand (8000) | | feet, traveling in circles over the North-end. I called the objects to the tah { j attention of Mrs. Naum and pointedit out to the other personnel standing near — | by. All of us saw the object, with the exception of two (2) out of seven (7) | t personnel. All of us looked away from the object several times to make sure — | | there was no eye strain or from permitting the object to become an optical mH | illusion. = a From my actual observance the object circled in too tight a circle and | | too severe a plane to be any aircraft that I mow of. It could not have been any type of bird because of the reflection that was created when the object sive reached certain altitudes. ‘The object could not have been @ local weather — oh balloon for it is very impossible that a weather balloon vould stay at the hy | same altitude as long and circle in such a consistent nature as did the 1 nal above mentioned object. < Sy peat I am femiliar with the results of too constant vision of the sun or fe va any bright object and am aware that optical illusions are possible and al | Probable. JI wish to make this statement that the above mentioned observance | | was thet of actual subject matter. til | This statement has been given freely and volunterily without any threats | or promise under duress. This statement consists of two (2) pages, and x; | is the truth to the best of my knowledge and belief. I have initialed all cared corrections deemed necessarys i aE 4 s/s _joseph c. me he ; seal ip ig T-SOSEEE GMC C. MC HENRY AC ia WITNESS: : aes betes ee s/s thomas a. me millan 3 ans) THOMAS As iC MILLAN i A =| | ines # f } PATTTEAT a: i . CONFIDENTIAL : ' ee ane nE ae eae A a a Se

— i cae ia TIDTINIORI TAT aioe [. ears Ooh : VN EI LUIN SA EX z c bs : i | b ¥ ARFIDAYIaT | STATE OF CALIFORNIA ) : } I COUNTY OF KERN ) ‘ } The following is a statement given by Captain John Pau] Strapp, “ae i } Flight Test, Yuroc Army Air Field, Nuroc, California, statement given to ) Mr Thomas A. McMillan, CIC Agent, this Stetion, on 12 August 1947. | f At 11:50 hours, 8 July 1947, while the undersigned was sitting in ae | an observation truck located in Area # 3, Rogers Dry Lake, for the ae, { purpose of observing a P-82 ejection seat experiment, the following ' unfemilierity was observed. E i | < b | The undersigned was gazing upwerd toward a formation of two (2) | , P-82's and an A=26 aircraft flying at 20,000 feet, preparing to carry fe | out & seat ejection experiment, when I observed a rounded object, a Ween white aluminum in color, which at first resembled a parachute canopy. ; ea | The first impression wes that a premature ejection of the seat and en dummy hed cecurred. ‘This body was ejected at a determined height lower r ao | than 20,000 feet, and was falling at three (3) times the rate observed H 2) for the parachute which was ejected thirty minutes later. As it fell et it drifted slightly north of due west against the prevailing wind, to- UP sy. | ward Mount Wilson. The speed, horizontal motion could not be determined, mie but appeared slower than the maximum velocity 50-80 aircraft. Nea es } As this object descended through a low enouch level to permit ‘mages | observation of its lateral silhouette, it presented e distinct ovuler : ey | outline, with two (2) projections on the upper surfece which might have — ferns! | been thick fins or nobs. These crossed each other at intervals, suggest- | ing either rotetion or oscillation of slow type. sae ay | No smoke flames, propellar arks, engine noise, or other clasuable (2). 3] or visible means of propulsion were noted. The color was silvery, re- i sy senbling aluminum painted febric, and did not appear as dense as & s He oo | parachute canopy. 5 330-1] | When the object dropped to a level such that comes into line of =A vision of the mountain tops, it was lost to the vision of the observer, ite | It is estimated that the object was in line of vision about 90 a Ea | | seconds. Of the five (5) people sitting in the observation truck, four 1G & | | (4) observod this object and made remarks about it. These people include: etal | Mr..Lenz - Civilien, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio sh * (Other names not given) = | | - | The following is my own personal opinions about this ‘Object: cor | x oi | 1. I think it was a man-made object, as evidenced disteaintly by | | the outline and functional appearance. Ae TIXTTAVEAT OT AT Se pe ware yee

ee — . bs “ “SI NIRTTS TENS RTT T $ ikea nea PR Supa VE LUE PEE “ss Co She ees ! | is4 + | STATE OF CALIFORNIA ) | COUNTY OF KERN ) | | The following is a statement given on 14 July 1947, by dannette | | Maric scott, Secretary to lst Lt J. ©, MoHenry, Billeting Officer, | | Maroc Army Air Field, Muroc, California. | ia I am fully “aware of my Civil and Constitutional Rights, and under= | stand prior to making this statement. y On Tuesday morning 8 July 1947, at approximately 10:00, while typing / Some cards, and taking care of my routine work, Lieutenant McHenry fe called me, along with 1/Sgt. Josoph Ruvolo and S/Sgt. Gerald #. Nauman, ba { to the front of B.0.Q. "A" Bldg. Pointing up in a direction directly i | | above ne he asked us to explain whet we saw. There were two, silver hes | colored disc like dbjects flying toward Mojave, California, one directly attest | " back of the other, at a speed of about 300 to 400 miles per hour, having i | | | an altitude of approximately 8000 feet. I listened carefully for a few oie a | minutes, and heard no drone, such as should be heard from any aircraft. al | | I also cast my eyes to another direction and looking back to the same Tied | spot, I was able to distincuish the same objects again. Having assured t | myself thet there was no eye-strain, I wes convinced these objects were etek not weather balloons due to the horizontal position in which they were q me 7 flying. Nor could they have been birds of any nature, due to the de-= whee | finite reflection from the sun rays. Jake 4 “ t ; | I heve been on this Jase, considering an absence of six months, saul approximately eizhteen months, and am familiar with all type aircraft. I About three or four minutes, after these flying objects had nearly ite] disappeared, I glanced around and sighted another flying object, ] similar to the above montioned objects. This flying object was silver r | colored and was in the shape of a disc. Unlike the first two this object wus | was flying ine ticht circle, neither losing nor gaining altitude, at eg } approximately eight thousand feet, therefore I was convinced it could aa | } not have been a weather balloon, and because of the tight circle it could | | not have been any type aircraft. Per ieat| i f We This statement was given freely end voluntarily without threats } or promises under duress. This statement consists of one (1) page, and Peo } is the truth to the best of my knowledge and belief. I have initialed iatonael | all corrections deemed necessary. - Sint) Iam of sound mind and body, and swear that this statement is true ; ] and correct. ? | | s/s _jannotte marie scott “oy ! Jannette Marie Scott eon | WITNESSES: s | s/s thomas a. me millan ANA 4 f i FHOMARS ke aie eG: i Tack ASRS | THOMAS A. MC MILLAN SANE ad ke ee:

pe phe i : ees NONE EDEN i 2 0 ea On - v : 2 AL APEIDAYI2 STATE OF CALIFORNIA ) COUNTY OF KERN ) : The following is a statement given by S/Sgt. Jerald *. Uauman, 4144th AAFBU, Muroc Army Air Field, Muroc, California, statement given on 14 July 1947, to 1st Lt. J. C. McHenry, Billeting Officer. On the eight of July 1947 at ten o'clock (10:00) in the morning | I observed personally two (2) flying dise, flying in a north west direction at an estimated altitude of seven or eight thousand feet, traveling at | approximately three or four hundred miles per hour. | Just a few minutes before this I was in the Silleting Office and First Lieutenant Joseph ©. Mellenry, called me and two (2) others out- ] side. He then asked us what we saw. I saw two (2) objects with my own | eyes, and I am now end was then in perfect physical condition. I have | 20-20 vision and I am positive these two (2) objects could not have been | f Aircraft, weather balloons or birds. Due to the altitude in which they { were flying, they gave off a definite reflection from the rays of the sun. | | In eddition to these two (2) dise I saw another object a few | minutes later at the same altitude doing certain maneuvers such as flying in a tight circle. The two disc had already disappeared. This object to | my knowledge of aircraft could not have been an airplane because of the fi very tight maneuver it was undergoing. I have been flying in and heve { f been around all types of aircraft since 1943 and never in my life have I | seen anything such as this. If necessary I can and will swear to this | | statement. | { | } This statement has been given freely and volunterily without any j threats or promises under duress. This statement consists of one (1) { _ page, and is the truth to the best of my knowledge and belief. I heve | initialed all corrections deemed necessary. | ; : s/s t+ cs robinson | PFC T. C. ROBINSON WITNESS: | s/s thomas a. mo millan 2 “THOWAS A. MC MILLAN | | : | \ | 7 OONRITATIATIAITT A tT

SATITTAT | & * ey . ! UNIDENTIFIED OBJECT | 4AF1208-1 . | { 20 August 1947 | } MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: | 1. On 20 August 1947, this agent and Special Agent Hubbard ] { interviewed Mir. Ray A. Switger, Insurance Adjustor, at his home, 3431 | | David Way, Sacramento, California, and he stated in substence: On the | afternoon of 14 August 1947, he was driving his automobile from Placer= i ville, California, on the Cedar Ravine Road. Mr. Switser's wife was in ¢ y | the front seat of the automébile and Mrs, Switser's mother and the two f | Switzer children were in the back seat of the car. At about 1600 hours ] they were at a point approximately five miles southwest from Placerville | when Switzer saw a white smoke trail out of the corner of his eyes In } searching for a rocket ship (P80) he saw an object, four to six feet in i length, ten to fourteen inches wide, and of a metal color, bright like | , highly polished chromium, In relation to the travel of the automobile ail the object was first seen at 1030, and when the object | . reached a t point eat approximately 1200, it was engulfed in a puff of dark gray smoke | about ten feet in diameter. The object was traveling at a terrific rate Ft | of speed and seemed to be in @ very shallow dive. When the puff of smoke | appeared, the object disappeared completély and there were no particles ‘ seen to have fallen from the smoke. The point where the object was en- ; gulfed in the smoke was about eight hundred yards distant (in front of) Switser with no possibility of the object being hidden from view by vege- * tation or terrain. The object appeared rectanguler in shape bap: 3. ed ; | | one very short period of time it appeared to have a top surface was | very slightly curved. Mr. Switzer turned to tell his wife about the 3 - | object and found her with her mouth open in an effort to say something | and with her hand in a pointing gesture toward where the object had dis- — ee | appeared, The object was not very high in relation to the terrain and | seemed to be following the contour of a canyon. Pees ee 2. In @ separate interview Mre. Switzer concurred in the obtained from Mr. Switzer with the following exceptions: The smoke - ty and the puff that engulfed the object appeared dark gray in color and there was no change in the color, Mrs, Switzer estimated the object to be about | five feet long and'about a foot wide with the top surface being slightly ~~ curved. The object appeared to be some larger in front than in the rear, | AGENT'S NOTES: At the time this object was seen, the sun was to the Switser's back, the sky was clear and the object gave off a very bright reflection, = = Mr. Switzer hes been connected with the field of insurance investigation for A the last eighteen years and appears to be @ man not desirous of publicity. | The other passengers of the car did not see the object. Deshelgr pg ition ino 4 the process of moving to a ranch near Placerville,.Calif.s, and his new.address will be Box 45, Aukum, Eldorado County, Calif. ieee araihfhg - asl to meet Mr. Switzer at 1400, 26 Aug 47 at Raffeld” » Placerville, | “yr for the purpose of foing back over Cedar Ravirje Road tAURCRtb (sy point — ae te where the object disappeared. ! ; ‘kee a i} Bryden E. Moon, Special Agent, 4AF CIC SAM FRawCiee Are CONDI NGN ET Apes. Be WM INE LES EAN EN) eens Das ae

Biase * eee ig % AINNTIDGINGNATT 1 Al Pei. Co So ; “ WAIND LEJLINI LAL | oS HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE ; | } Offiee of the Assistant Chief of Starr, A-2 Intelligence 1 Hamilton Field, California | 4APDA 20 August 1947 33305/1208-1 : SUBJECT: Flying Disc. | ° ‘TOs Special Agent in Charge, F8I, U. S. Dept. of Justice, i : . Federal Office Building, Room 422, San Francisco, Calif. | ese le The attached letter was received by this office from itr. | Re Je Madden, Division Plant Engineer, Pacific Telephone and Telegraph | ; Company, on 165 August 1947. | i 2- No further investigation will be made of this reported inei- ed dent by this headquarters. 4. | * ae le 4 Jn lh ty, fh BUI P : 1 Incl Lt. Colonel, OSC 4 Ag indieated. AC of S, AaB V j aay AP 2 Ree webs ‘ ley Sehr PSI +1 oy ee el i ciel ! 7 2 U. §. DE k Vice AUG 21 1987 ne SANFRANCISCO Wc, Ral woureo To \ } OMI

f Etta : s/\KT . } : +A : | ae, | % } f 427 W. 34 Avenue Spokane, Washington ¢ | i August 8, 1947 | | | { Military Intelligence Division, Us5eA. | | MeChord Field, Washington J ] Following the reading of an account of the visit of irs Kenneth ' Arnold, Boise, Idaho, as published in the Spokesman Review under date | | of August 7, 1947, the undersigned considered the enclosed account of an observetion of a "flying saucer" would be of interest to you. | This aecount has not been given to any newspaper or other public- | sation as yet. ‘ Yours truly, ‘ /o/ 3s Je Maddon Ry Jo MADDEN, a; a Division Plant Mgrs : a The Paces Tele & Tele Coe n ] parade snate hh Bier’ ee aoe AU Ge TVESTGR TG: AUG 21 1947 : SAN FRANCISC. roRy ; 3 SOCTEDIO.0 5. tu se ee % 4 irtiinnesss: aoe Wr * CONFIDENTIAL : a

b tmwke> ae ; cae pes | “ : : ) TAI > ; as CONFIDENTIAL ~ os ae ‘ | ¢ : Report on @ “Flying Saucer : | ) ee ] ® / L At% or about 12105 peme, July 29, 1947, a sedan, driven by Steve | 3 Herrmann and carrying it. Js (lob) Madden in the front seat and Ke-2 cerrnenn | 4 in the rear seat, was proceeding nortiwesterly along the road loading from ] | Canyon Yerry te York, both in Montane some 25 miles Nei. of Helenns \ f Sica or Smee ee at a \ on Forest Service ¥ap to be in the Ni of WEL of Sec. 10 TLON Fin) Karl. i suddenly shouted “See iti! See iti There's a flying seucert” Steve immed- | | iately slowed down and gradually brought the sedan to a stop, he and Bob \ mearwhile scanning the sky in the direction pointed by Karl in an effort to ] i see the "flying saucer", but without success. : f | \ the “saucer”, coming ever the horigon at high speed from the southwest, (Karl | \ first thought it @ meteor) and travelling northeasterly, and the bringing of | , the car to a stop. | i) As the car cane to a stop, Steve, Karl and Sob, simltaneously, saw the y followings : j Direotly ahead, (NeW) 2 to 3 miles distant and approximately 3000 ft. ‘ abeve the ground, e bright dise hovering and fluttering in the sir. Descend- | ing end rising through « vertionl distance of fifty or a hundred feet for a | period of about five seconds then, while et the top of an ascent, the "disc" 1 } suddenly swooped to the Northeast at trerendous speed and disappeared into | the clear air within a distenes of 200 ft. That is to say it did not pass beyond ex obstruction to further visibility but “melted into thin air” as if because of tremendous speeds | This dise was, from the viewpoint ef the observers, apparently 3 ft. | | in diameter, ciroular and of no great thickness + approximately 5 or 4 inches. | The sky was blue with gonttered omall sleuds, the sun was shining | brightly and the aise gleamed and shimmered in the bright sunlicht as if | | eovered with highly polished nickel. | ] After the “diec" diseppeared from view, the sedan ond its occupants | | proceeded northwesterly along the road, but could discern no evidence of | | the presence of the “diso" along or adjacent to that therofare. | | It is to be remembered that the dimensions as stated above were as 4 | they sppeared to the chservers some 2 or 3 miles from the “diso" and the | \ ‘true dimensions mst be considerably greeter. ; | | ‘a/ Re Je Madden, fs Re Jo MADDEN, | Division Plant ngr. ss j The Pao. Tol. & Tele Co. | | | : 2 | PNR CONFIDE NG ag ae |

Ce ret a “_- Office M. a: os SERGE ct cé CM0VANAUIM + UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : DIRECTOR DATE: 9-15-47 AM 00 + SAC, San Francisco ( 8} SUBJECT: REPORTS o¥ firm G DISCS Reference is made to my letter dated August 26, 1947. Enclosed is @ copy of a letter dated September 9, 1947 from Lt. Colonel DONALD L, SPRINGER, of A2, with a memorandum prepared by BRYDEN E, MOON, 4th Air Force CIC on August 20, 1947 and August 26, 1947, The memorandum contains information regarding observations of RAY A, SWITZER of Sacramento, California. Also enclosed is a letter dated September 10, 1947 from Colonel SPRINGER with attachment dated September 9, 1947 - For the information of the Bureau, KENNETH ARNOLD of Boise, Idaho, who has been repeatedly interviewed in this matter by A2, has expressed his intention to A2 of selling for publication his detailed account of his investigation of flying discs, 62-2938 F DWK, i : Hi k iL / 2 ar p (uo PA rd / aT | we s/' /& 7 q ED, ory EX-64 at G4 — [Oa bo TO Oe eaemmee RECORDED te ee 1 ‘4 ae

Dee = be + -_ rN ] ASIN aD. v, TINTON TT Aa vy. % : PANT Ned AS | : | HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE i Office of the Assistant Chief of Steff, A-2 1 Intellircence | Hamilton Field, California | 4APDA 9 Sentember 1947 Is $55 .5/1208-1 SUBJECT: Investigetion of Flying Disc. { TO: Special Agent in Charge, PBI, U.S. Department of Justice, | Room 422, Federal Office Suilding, San Francisco, California. | Attached MOIC for your information. vee é| oe ea Le. Za - 1 Inel: Lt. Colonel} Me Corner’ ! MOIC, Moon, dtd 20 Aug 47. Deputy AC ot A=2 \ | . } et 4 ERA. BURL AT Gt Hi ester Me SEP 12 147 4 i UTED TO” aa 7 t : \ Y WNDTTDTIATYATIOT AT j iia CUINDIUISINILAL ]

RE ES MMSE aS eles pas OR ER PST YEE Se SR ENE S IETT TE we ira niet Set panties pacts NJINE LEAEGIN AACA Ly 5 fa) | Meee Sy Telephone message received from lire Al Neck, City Bditor, Onkland Iribuner | f c ) lire Ray Ae Switeer, S451 David Way, Sacramento 2, Calif, end insurance } oxeoutive with the firm of Moduire end allie, of Saoramento, reported the ] following incidents 3 “ht 4:7. om August 14, while driving on Cedar Nevine Read, 4 to & ules southeast of Placerville, Calif, he, soconpanied ty hie wife, sbeerved { ® “vapor” trail moving from north to souths Closer observation revealed a | piece of “shiny metal et from £00 to 1000 fest altitude moving at a “high “| Lineal omy The ebject appesred to be nore “rocket=shaped” than discs shaped. It appeared to be anproximately § feet in length and was “tilted in a semi-circle". as ; | The ebjest struck the ground with a “puff of blesk @noke” about 100. | feet below the top of a hill which was approximately 750 feet ahoad of the automobile Se, the observer. An intervening canyon prevented investi- gation ef the lea on where the object was observed to have landed. absorver in able to identify the location where the object was i caval to lands c | O&. Switzer is @ University of California graduste, end is personally imown by wenbers of the Osklend Tribune steff. te is a brother-in-law of Cole Gray of the Marine Hospital of Southern California) | r ‘ | ws ¥ Sis ee . > 6 Bae: aoe aA Sig 9 acres Meee ne ‘ss Soba EO Se eta ae eae, wy Saleh «hor ae ca ee ids eaten aah oy hea es RMR eee tn phi Oy ETE A ae ee |

a Bo ! SSPNATIATTIAISATTT i ei eae “GUINE LUIIN 1 1LAd @ ee UNIDEKTIFIED OBJECT He. | 20 August 1947 - ae a | Z | oe MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: Becks 1. On 20 August 1947, thia agent and Special Agent Hubbard Kees) interviewed lr. Hay As Switzer, Insurance Adjustor, at his home, 3451 — > ae | David Way, Sacremento, California, and he stated in substances On the Ga ae afternoon of 14 August 1947, he was driving his automobile from Placer= a Pe | ville, California, on the Cedar itavine Road. Mr. Switser's wife was in = = the front seat of the automobile and Mrs. Switgzer's mother and the two Sy | Switzer children were in the back seat of the cars At about 1600 houre ==, they were at e point approximately five miles southwest from Placerville — =) when Switzer saw a white smoke trail out of the corner of his eyée In ‘ = f searching for a rocket ship (?80) ho saw an object, four to six feet in = 8 8 > | length, ten to fourteen inches wide, end of a metal color, bright like ae | highly polished chromium. In relation to the travel of the automobile — Ss eae | the object was first seen at 1030, and when the object reached aa = ae point at approximately 1200, it was engulfed in a puff pf dark gray corey CS a | about ten feet in diameter. The object was traveling at a terrific Ara oc | of speed and seemed to be in a very shallow divee When the puff of smoke pa | appeared, the object disappeared completely and there were no particles = = j seen to have fallen from the smoke. The point where the object was em= | gulfed in the smoke was about eight hundred yards distant (in front of) = == = | Switzer with no possibility of the object being hidden from view by vege= heen i tation or terrain. ‘The object appeared rectangular in shape except for 5 as | one very short period of time it appeared to have a top surface that was PELE! } very slightly curved. Wr. Switzer turned to tell his wife about the 8 se { object and found her with her mouth open in an effort to say pape he ) ey | and with her hand in a pointing gesture toward ry the object had dis= | @ppeared. ‘he object was not very high in relat to the terrain and Bs j ' seemed to be following the contour of a canyon, f oe es gas t 2- In a separate interview Yrs. Switzer concurred in the aye ct = aes | obteined from Mr. Switzer with the following exceptions: ‘the smoke tra: sat gud } and the puff that engulfed the object appeared dark gray in color and there Bye } wes no change in the colors urs. Switzer estimated the object to be about == j five feet long and about a foot wide with the top surface being gar tae ier | | curvede ‘he object appeared to be some larger in front than in the rear. =| | AGENT'S NOTES: At the time this object was seen, the sun ws to the Sutter's i back, the sky was clear and the object gave off a very bright Ba ete | Ure Switzer has been connected with the field of insurance investige n Meare | the last eighteen years and appears to be a man not desirous of publ: erie | The other passengers of the oar did not see the object. Ure a etand pam SKS the process of moving to # ranch near Placerville, Calif., and his new tee | will be Box 43, Aukum, Eldorado Younty, Calif. Arrangements have been m Roar | to meet Mr. Switzer at 1400, 26 Aug 47 at Reffels Hotel, Placerville, Calif., for the purpose of going back over Cedar Ravine Koad to loeate the point = | where the object disappeared. IF. fea hers woe Gea cere Bryden &, Yoon, Speoinl Agent, 4AF CIC AA Eis aa CONNTEAT VISA. Aes hoot leat Cait (3a ; UM ENE ASIN 1 Ad i st hed

ashe ee TWAIN AE PS | Pd z \ JAIN LLIN Ata, ] ; UNIDENTIFIED OBJECT ] | 4AF*1208-1 | | i Be: On 26 August 47, 3/A Hubbard and this agent contacted Mr. Ray Switzer, Insurance Adjustor at the Saffels Hotel, Placervillo, California. After traveling Cedar Ravine road to a point nine miles southeast of Plecerville, known as Suck’s Sar, Switzer decided that the place fron where he had observed the object on 14 Aug 47 was nearer to Plocerville. Fit After a thorouch check of the road, Switser believed the spot where he : had observed the object to be on the ridre just north of Webber Creck where the rond breaks over the summit. This point is two miles from the : k Raffele Hotel, Placerville, California, on the Cedar Kavine Koed. As 3 the rond epprosehes the summit it curves to the left which would provide fan observer from an automobile a sweeping view throuch 40° of the canyon and the horizon on the south side of Webber Creek. ‘This point of observa- - @fon lies 38° 42° 45" North Latitude and 120° 47' 15" West Longitude. ae The elevation at this point is 2,000 feet above sea level. ‘he horizon Leal from this point in the south is formed by a series of mountain peaks which | ae lie enaval iy through 38° 39’ 45" and which are on the south side of Squaw | . Hollow Creek, a distance of four miles, end ranging in elevation from | ~*~ 8,300 feet to 2,500 feet above sea level. Switzer was not definite as to | oh what part of the field of view he had seen the object and indicated thet it | $e could have been as far as the horizon. Any object, or particles of an | Object, that Switzer saw, if on the ground on the field of view, would be } ‘ + 4m a six square mile erea of wooded, mountsinous terrain which is full of i _ canyons end revinese j = _ AGENT'S NOTES: This agent believes that Switzer could have seen an eluminum = -gurfaced sonventionel type sircraft which, due to the distance at which he | observed it, distinguishing features were not seen because of the bright ‘ ell reflection and the short period of observation. The aircraft would have been | pete ae coming from the left as Switzer turned to the left, thereby giving the effect | es ae of a much creater speed than the object was really travoling. This agent has Y=.) no explanation as to the smoke treil observed by Switzer. If roconnaisance | bytes is desired of the area to see tf anything can be located on the ground, this 1 bet > agent by oye that a small type aircraft similar to an L-5, be used in low j bad} ES, level ght between the hours of 1100 to 1300. Switzer was very cooper= | ph SeRASS ative and expended much of his on time in an effort to be of as much service i ons ae as possible. Switser will communicate with the AC of S, Aw2, Headquarters f yey _ Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, in the event of any report of Aa aireraft wreckage in the area. bie ets 4s On 26 Aug 47, a check with Ranger Dixon, State Forest Service, ee indie Camino, Celifornia, and George B. Young, Forester, Federal Forest Service, ee Pldeerville, Californie, provided the following information: There has dese been no forest fires or reported aircraft crashes in the area in question icy within the last month. oe Bryden B. Woon, Speciel Agent, 4AF CIC if shis O 4 a Onn et . RNIDINOQOA TT ig

ar ae e i erg ae a. saute Os ag | { HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE | | Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2 | Intelligence i ' Hamilton Field, California | | 5 } | 4AFDA 10 September 1947 . | j 333 .25/1208-I | | | SUBJECT: Investigation of Flying Dise. | { 20: Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Department of Justice, | | Room 422, Federal Office Building, San Francisco, California. | Atteched MOIC for your information, | FOR THE AC OF S, A-2: 7 a fz | DONALD L. SPRUAGER , | 1 Incl: Lt. Colonel ir © 8 f MOIC, Hubbard, dtd 9 Sep 47. Deputy AC S, A-' li | } z | | s | Bun A OF ch GAT | Avan OF JogeiGe } SEP 12 1942 t AN : RNA | f i Fike | 2 | TIAI tL --- “~~ is sin allt PLANE RT A BS > axon AO]

Be ee . Cte Te a ar ao ee a f WU NYA NA RY OND ef | | ka?~1208-2 1 9 September 1947 | MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: RS Ye | | wr. Ward L. Stewart, 12h2 Wilvia Street, Berkeley, weno eee oe St ee | interviewed 3 September 1947 at his place of employsent, the ‘Mining — ae | Building, University of Galifornia, concerning flying objects he reported iil | to have seen on 29 July 1947 while with Captain William H. Ryherd of the | 4lSth AAF BU (RT). Mr. Stewart stated in substance that he was a lst Lt orn j in the Reserve and that on the 29th of July 1947 yin soy 12 noon he | | and Captain Ryherd had just landed fron a routine flignt when q } Captain Ryherd called Mr. Stewart's attention to an unidentified flying = ! object that was following a P-30 aircraft at a terrific rate of speeds Mr, Stewart estissted the P-§$0 to be flying at approximately 250 SE | | per hour on a preliminary approach to landing at Haxilton Field, In ur. Sa | Stewart's estimation the object he sow following the P-80 Yo eae | speed of three to four tines that cf the aircraft. A momentlatera second object appeared and flew a course described as piece > similar to a fighter aircraft's maneuvers when accenpanying heavier PS, Or a “ra j left to richt movenent, over the object first sighted. Ur. Stewart el } that this saneuvering continued until the objects ware out of sight. ieee | | estimted the tine to be avproxinately 15 secords, the course approxima’ leit ] 120 degrees. \, Stewart could not estimate the size of the objects nor | | actual altitude, though he did not believe thes to be beyond six thousand == feet. lr, Stewart described the objects as being milky wiite in color, | and unlike any conventional type aircraft he had ever seen. en quostioned StF | whether he was finiliar with the Navy "Flapjack", Mr. Stewart s teat he was, and that he was certain the objects he reported seeing were notof = this nature. és ett ee AGWNT'S NOTES: Mr. Stewart is a former officer of the U.S. AAP and = B-29 4 | pilot of considerable experience. “©. Stesart does not convey the im= | pression of being the kind of person who would “imagine” that he was seeing = | objects, nor has he any apparent desire for publicity. Mr. Roc pager ae | charge of machine shops at the University of California, Berkeley, ornia, — | LESLI§ S. NUSBARD, S/A, CIC ADC har. ‘Se gee | \n v WOANE 4a ae SERA Fe

, “ iy (\ d U4 FBI BUTTE 8-15-47 ~ 5-50 PM vow UF L2ARECTOR, FBI URGENT se an Or.yINe Discs. ON INSTANT BAPBAMMEX DATE, AL We HAWKINS, cout COMMISSIONER AND EX SHERIFF, TWIN FALLS, IDAHO, AND gomMmMay J. H.\\ /7 BROWN, IDAHO STATE WAREHOUSE INSPECTOR, SAME COMMUNITY, ADVISED THAT ON WEDNESDAY MORNING, AUGUST THIRTEEN LAST, AT APPROXIMATELY NINE THIRTY AM WHILE FISHING IN RIVER APPROXIMATELY FORTY MILES SOUTHWEST OF TWIN FALLS, IDAHO, IN ISOLATED COUNTRY, THEY SAW TWO OBJECTS FLYING THROUGH AIR AT GREAT HEIGHT, WHICH APPREXKX APPEARED TO BE DISCS, AND AT SAME TIME HEARD ROAR SIMILAR TO NOISE CREATED BY MOTOR TRUCK, INFORMANTS ADVISED OBJECTS MOVING VERY RAPIDLY AND ‘BAOMENX THAT THEY EACH APPEARED TO BE APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET IN DIAMETER, OBJECTS QUICKLY DISAPPEARED FROM SIGHT AND HAVE NOT BEEN SEEN SINCE . NO FURTHER DESCREATION THESE OBJECTS PRESENTLY AVAILABLE. FURTHER INVESTIGATION ayfind CONDUCTED BY THIS DIVISION PURSUANT TO BUREAU BULLETIN gail Two, SUB DIVISION B, DATED JULY THIRTY NINETEEN FORTY SEVEN. BUREAU WILL BE PROMPTLY INFORMED OF ALL PERTINENT oenhWeIoasy | . panrsref l Vig i 622% 2b LF /04 END he \ hi 6 11 ee 15 gr’ \ \ | Ve ae HOLD PLS of vi a YY or : 7-54 PM OK FBI WA BW

STANDARD FORM NO. 64 9 b i Office Meter andum + ONITED $i... GOVERNMENT To : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: August 28, 1947 || c ah Ve EROM : Sac, SAN FRANCISCO A? Q ( O q SORJECT: REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS p r ATTENTION: ASSISTANT DIRECTOR D. M. LADD On August 27, 1947, Lt. Colonel DONALD SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, advised that the Area Intelligence Require- ments Division Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2 Headquarters, re- quested that one WILLIAM*RHOADS of Phoenix, Arizona, be completely inter- viewed in connection with a report that he had seen on July 7, 1947, what he believed were flying discs, RHOADS is supposed to have taken several pic- tures of the discs with a 620 Box Camera. A previous report of this reported sighting of flying discs was forwarded the Bureau on August 8, 1947. Colonel SPRINGER has advised that GEORGE F. FUGATE, Jr., an intelligence agent of A-2 stationed at Long B ach, California, would arrive in Phoenix, Arizona, on or about September 2,°1947, and would be instructed to contact the Phoenix Field Division Office. In accordance with Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, it is felt that an agent from the Phoenix Field Division should interview WILLIAM RHOADS at 4333 North 14th Street, Phoenix, if RHOADS has not already been interviewed. Colonel SPRINGER indicated that Mr. FUGATE should, if possible, sit in on this interview. A copy of the report from A=2 dated August 4, 1947, along with three ee photographic prints of the pictures allegedly taken by Mr. RHOADS, is being i enclosed for the Phoenix Field Division. WWR/jo 62-2938 2 cc Phoenix (Encl.) (AMSD) BECORDEI OA, £3494 VAL) bs rr PF AIRMAIL SPECIAL DELIVERY J -s ee ~ 4

ce 2: aaa x . “STANDARD FORM No. 64 € 4 : zx @ * { 4 . bax Office Men......-dUM! + NITED «2.1... GOVERNMENT } 65-477 £ TO : Director, FBI ——paTs:ugust 27, 1947 hr : SAC, Butte KS ¢ SUBJECT: ne DISCS SIGHTED BY SECURITY MATTER - X Re Seattle tels August 7, 1947, and August 12, 1947, in the above captioned matter. Kea ET PXARY OLD, Route 1, Mountain View Drive, Boise, Idaho, was inter- viewed at the Boise Resident Agency, Boise, Idaho, by SA JOSEPH E. JETTE on ™ August 19, 1947. Mr. ARNOLD advised that he received a letter from RAYMOND A. \PALWER, Editor, Venture Press, Evenston, Illinois, dated June 26, 1947, in which Mr. PALMER advised that he was interested in publishing an article in his magazine concerning the flying discs seen by Mr. ARNOLD near Mount Reinier on June 24, 1947, which letter is being enclosed to the Bureau. Mr. ARNOLD stated that he did not give much thought to PALMER's letter until PALMER wrote him again and informed him that FRED TRISMAN end HAROLD A. PAHL of Tacoma, Washington, had sent him fragments of a flying disc and that he would like him (ARNOLD) to go to Tacoma, Washington, and contact CHRISMAN and DAHL to find out if there was any truth in @ their story about the dise fragments. He steted that he did not answer PALMER's E letter, but inquired of several friends for their opinion in the matter, end Cc that they all told him if PALMER desired to pay his expenses to go to Tacoma, — Washington, and look into this matter, that they did not see where he had enything © to lose. He informed that he gave a talk at the Boise Ad Club on duly 25, 1947, about the flying discs he had seen, and also of the request contained in PALMER's p letter to go to Tacoma to investigate additional information regarding the find- gine of dise fregments by CHRISMAN and DAHL. 35" be BD conn advised that following his talk, he was approached by a cb who said he knew both CHRISMAN and DAHL and thet they were very reliable individuals. He stated that after thinking it over, he called PALMER by telephone end at which time he informed PALMER that he would contact CHRISMAN and DAHL end investigate the matter regarding the dise fregments, if PALMER would send him $200.00 expense money. He also advised that he received $200.00 expense money from PALMER vie Western Union the next morning. He informed that he left for Tacoma, Washington, via his personal plane on July 30, 1947. Upon arriving at Pendleton, Oregon, he told his story to ED“BEACH, CRA, Inspector from Portland, Oregon, who advised him to go ehead with his investization. | . i He stated that he lended at Berry's Airport UF foons Eid obitSinedya room at the Winthrop Hotel. He informed that he’ then caMed BmpISEp telepyone to make arrangements to talk to him regerding they Gee fe: He advised that DAHL insisted on coming to the hotel room immedi#¥ely. Uon arriving at Mr. ARNOLD's hotel room, DAHL stated thet he wanted to forget are the discs as too meny things . hed been happening to him, and advised Mr. ARI ours! tABY home and forget about the discs. Mr. ARNOLD stated that he informed DAHL thet he wanted to obtain all 270 NOV 18 1964 ri a Sp, i SBF0 2 ee muguayr 2Eere

uv i 5 - : C Director, FBL August 27, 1947 Re: Flying Dises - Tacoma, Wn. ; of the information aveileble regarding the disc fragments end that he understood thet DAHL had told the press about the disc fragments, stating there wes nothing to the story and. thet it was a phoney. DAHL immediately replied that his story was not false or phoney, but thet what he had seen and whet had happened to him was so unusual and fentestic that he wanted to forget about the dise fragments. DAHL then agreed to tell Mr. ARNOLD the following story, providing his name and the Harbor Patrols would be left outs DAHL stated that his dog had been killed and his boy hurt end that the wheel mount on his harbor patrol boat had been struck by dise fragments, and thet about twenty ton of this materiel had fallen on the beach at Mauri Island, and into the bay, and thet a day after this incident, a men about forty years of age had contacted him and told him, "I know whet you sew at Mauri Islend and I'm telling you in a nice way to forget about it and keep your mouth shut." DAHL stated that he had obtained a large number of the fragments and had taken them home, but thet FREDDRICKMAN, his superior officer, hed told him to send the fragments to RAYMOND PALMER at Chicago; that PALMER would analyze the specimens free of charge. DAHL continued stating that on the afternoon of June 21, 1947, he wes on patrol with his boy, dog, and two seamen near a cove on the east side of Meuri Islend. He steted that he looked up through the windshield of the boet and at a height of about 1,000 feet, he saw six round circular grey objects that looked like large inner tubes slightly squashed. These objects appeared to be about 100 feet across end in the center was e hole about twenty-five feet. DAHL said he assumed they were some type of a balloon. The object in the center was lower than the rest of the other objects, and the other objects were circling around it. The object in the center seemed to be descending while the others followed. As the objects descended he saw port holes around the inside of the object and what appeared to be windows. He stated thet the object in the center descended to about 500 feet, and that suddenly one of the circling objects came down end touched the object in the center and remained in this position for a few minutes, while the other objects continued to circle above. The object which had descended and touched the object in the center and which was lower, then rose and took its place with the other objects. All of the objects then started to rise and what appesred to be news- papers came out of the center of the object in the middle of the circling object. Then the sky seemed to rain lava, the leva coming from the object in the center and DAHL headed the boat for shore. He stated that the lava coming from the object in the center appeared to be s white metal, and as it fell into the water, clouds of steem rose from the water, He stated that some of the lava landed on the beach. He also stated that his dog was killed and also a sea gull in addition to his boy being hurt by the falling lave. Mr. ARNOLD continued steting that DAHL had said thet he had teken pictures of the object and that if Mr. ARNOLD wanted them, he could have the negatives. \HL took Mr. ARNOLD to the home of his secretary that evening end showed him some of the disc fragments he hed picked up, which were smooth on one side end rough on the other, according to a. ARNOLD. aoe

Director, FBI August 27, 1947 Re: Flying Discs - Tacoma, Wn. fr. ARNOLD stated he received a telephone call from the press upon returning to his hotel room, and that the press wanted to know about the flying disc fragments, and he told them that he was not talking ur til he had proved it. He stated he did not know how the press ever knew he was in Tacoma or had seen DAHL. Mr. ARNOLD informed that at 9:30 A.M. the next morning, July 31, 1947, MAHL and CHRISMAN appeared at his hotel room and DAHL agein asked him to go home and forget about the discs, that his story was not false, but thet he hed had enough trouble. DAHL said that his boy had been missed one morning and had been found at Lust, Montene, waiting on tables in a cafe; that he did not know how he had got there and that too many things were happening. Mr. ARNOLD stated thet when DAHL and CHRISMAN came to his hotel room, they had an armful of fragments, and that CHRISMAN had then informed about how he had seen en object resembling those seen by DAHL. CHRISMAN stated he had taken the patrol boat on duly 23, 1947, and had gone to Mauri Island and had found the beach littered with lava. CHRISMAN stated he had looked up and had seen 2 balloon-like object with port holes and windows, which had disappeared into a large cloud. ARNOLI stated thet he asked DAHL again to see the pictures of the objects; that DAHL had again agreed to show them to him. Mr. ARNOLD informed that he had then asked DAHL and CHRISMAN if it would be all right for him to call a friend, Captain SMITH, who had also seen some flying discs and let him sge the fragments and hear Mr. DAHL's story. DAHL dissented, however, CHRISMAN readily agreed. He also stated that he had placed a call to Lieutenant BROWN and Captain DAVIDSON, Army intelligence officers at Hamilton Field, and had asked them to come to his hotel, as they had previously instructed him to report to them any- thing of an unusual nature or of interest regarding the flying discs. He stated he flew to Seattle and got Captain SMITH, and that Lieutenant BROWN and Captain DAVIDSON had come to his room about 4:00 P.M. Mr. ARNOLD advised that he hed asked Lieutenant BROWN just whet he hed found out regerding the discs, and Lieutenant BROWN had confidentially informed him that they had obtained a picture of a disc, which appeared to be authentic, which picture was taken by a man in Phoenix, Arizona. The picture, according to Lieutenent BROWN, was of a circular object with a hole in the center, and of another object that looked like a flying wing. He stated that when Lieutenant BRON told him this that he immediately thought of the object seen by DAHL. He stated thet after hearing DAHL's story, Lieutenant BROW and Captain DAVIDSON's attitude had changed immediately, and that they sppeared disinterested. It was then suggested that they all go to Mauri Islend and look for the disc fragments. Lieutenant BROWN end Captein DAVIDSON stated that they hed to return to Hamilton Field immediately. Mr. ARNOLD stated that Lieutenant BROWN and Captein DAVIDSON were very careful to gather up all of the fragments which had been brought to the room by DAHL and CHRISMAN. i 5 pes

Director, FBI August 27, 1947 Re; Flying Discs - Tecoma, Wn. He stated that the next morning he received a call from CHRISMAN, who told him thet Lieutenant BROWN and Yaptain DAVIDSON had been killed in a B-25 crash. He stated he does not know how CHRISMAN knew who had been in the plene before anyone else. He also stated that during the above conference numerous telephone calls were received from the press, wanting to know about the conference. He stated that someone kept tipping the press off eas to what was going on and what was being said daily verbatim. He informed that PAUL LAND and MORELLO, United Press men at Tacoma, appeared to know all that took place during the conference, and even knew of the crash of the B-25 and those eboard, before the Army released this information. Mr. ARNOLD informed that when he received news of the crash, that he and Captain SMITH fully expected to be contacted by Army Intelligence, as they were the last people with Lieutenant BROWN and Captain DAVIDSON, however, they were never contacted. He further stated that he and Captain SMITH went down to the United Press to see what the survivors of the crash had informed about the crash and that MORELLO hed told them that the mysterious informant who had been calling had told him that the B-25 had not crashed, but had beens hot down, also thet MORELLO's Army informant had said thet en observer at Kelso, Washington, had seen the plane throw out a landing flare after the two survivors had jumped from the plane, and that the plane had gone into a steep dive and dove into a hillside, and further that one engine had been on fire, but that the fire apperatus, protecting the engine, had failed to function. Mr. ARNOLD stated that DAHL then came to see him and Captain SMITH and told them to go home and forget about the discs, that such things as the B-25 crash had been happening to him all along. Mr. ARNOLD stated that he then called Mr. PALMER at Chicago and told him that the deal was off and that if he wanted his $200.00 back, he could have it; that two men had been killed and he was getting frightened of the whole thing. He stated that PALMER informed him that it was ell right with him to keep the $200.00, however, he would send him an additional check for the trouble he had put to. Mr. ARNOLD advised that previous to this telephone call, Captain SMITH had called his friend, MORRIS RODDY, of the Chicago Times and had told him that he did not have any faith in Army ‘+ntelligence and for RODDY to conduct an investigation on PALMER and get to the bottom of this dise fantesy. Mr. ARNOLD also advised thet previous to the two above telephone calls, he hed asked the press to investigate PALMFR, as Army Intelligence hed informed him tht they could not find PALMER and knew nothing concerning him, and appeared not to be interested in PALMER, who seemed to know more about the flying discs than anyone else. r. ARNOLD stated that he personally thinks thet PALMER's business is a blind for something else and that DAHL and CHRISMAN will do anything that PALMER asks him to and will not talk unless PALMER tells him to. Mr. ARNOLD stated that he still wanted to get to the bottom of the disc fragment story so he and Captain SMITH had decided to go to Mauri Island on Sunday, August 3, a4=

PS - , . Director, FBI August 27, 1947 Re; Flying Discs - tacoma, “ne 1947, however, when CHRISMAN was approached in this regard, and they had gone to the boat house where CHRISMAN kept his bost, CHRISMAN could not seem to make the boat run, and after making some excuses that he had to return to his office, had steted that he would return in about an hour, and by thet time his mechanic should have the boat repeired end they could all proceed to Mauri Island. Mr. ARNOLD informed thet CHRISMAN never returned, and thet they were unable to locate CHRISMAN at any of the telephone numbers he hed given them. They located DAHL in a movie, according to ARNOLD, and that DAHL, after making some efforts to locate CHRIS , had informed them that CHRISMA had left town for a few days. He further informed that about this time the press contacted them and told them an informant had celled and told them that CHRISMA as on his way to “Alaska in en Army plane. Mr. ARNOLD advised that Captain SMITH hed informed him thet he had made an appointment with Major ANDERS at McCord Field end intended to tell Major SANDERS the complete story. During the efternoon, Captain SMITH and Major SANDERS came to the hotel room, according to ARNOLD, and some of the fragments thet DAHL had brought to Mr. ARNOLD's room, following the conference, were shown to Major SANDERS. Upon viewing the fragments, Mejor SANDERS, accord- ing to Mr. ARNOLD, stated that they were nothing but slag from the copper mill, however, before Major SANDERS left, he gathered up every fragment in the room, according to Mr. ARNOLD, and took them with him. fr. ARNOLD stated that he then left for Boise, Idaho. re ARNOLD produced a letter dated August 5, 1947, from PALMER in which PALMER attempts to encourage Wr. ARNOLD to continue his investigation into the flying discs. This letter is also being enclosed to the Bureau. ir. ARNOLP also gave SA JETTE a copy of the article sent to Mr. PALMER and to the Commanding General, Wright Field, Yayton, Ohio, regarding his sighting of the nine discs near Mount Rainier on June 24, 1947. This article is also being enclosed to the Bureau. Mr. ARNOLD advised that he is vitally interested in this matter and knows that there mst be something to the flying discsstory He stated that he will do everything in his power to help the Bureau in this metter. He also advised thet he has no connection whatsoever with the Boise Statesmen. He stated that the Boise Statesman has never paid him for any information he hes given them. He informed that he sincerely believes that the Boise Statesman is attempting, as he is, to get to the bottom of the flying discs story. Mr. ARNOLD stated that he has told the above story to Army Intelligence and Major SANDERS and to no one else, with the exception of SA JETTE. DAVE JOHNSON, Boise Stetesman, Boise, Idaho, advised that the Boise Statesman has never paid Mr. ARNOLD for any news item he has given them, and hes never approached him in this manner. he stated that the Boise Statesman is not attempting to push the flying discs story, but merely attempting to

Fo a S 4 ° : > . . . : Director, FBI August 27, 1947 e; Flying Discs - Tacome, Wn. et to the bottom of the flying discs story as they sincerely believe there is someone who knows the story of the discs d thet they actually exist, and othing concerning them. JOHNSON also informed that Lieutenant BRO and Captain DAVIDSON had contacted him on July 20, 1947, at Boise, 4deho, regard- ing the discs and that is how he met them. Unless advised th the contrery, no additional investigation is being conducted in this matter, and it is being considered as Referred Upor Completion to the Seattle Office. Encs. (REGISTERED) SPRCTAL DELIVERY ce - Seattle Z pee vate os ke vs 4 vy ei s

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y 305 STUDIO BUILDING 1718 SHERMAN AVENUE EVANSTON, ILLINOIS a See Augst 5, 1947 Ur. Kenneth Arnold, Box 387, Boise, Idaho Dear Mr. Arnold: It seems that Mr. Maurice Roddy of the Chicago Times got the ; story from Mr. Smith, because he called me, told me he was * running it. I knew only what you'd told me over the phone. Now, it seems the newspapers are pestering the very devil out of all ycu fellows. Crisman wired me for instructions, and I told him to say nothing ta the newspapers, because he'll look silly if the army explains this as "meteors" or something like that. I don't blame you for being alarmed, but I trust youtve had no trouble in your flying since then. Let's get thet straight-- there's no horrible plot infolved. It's probably true that the two men killed were just aecidents. It could be true that it was not an accident, but I don't think there was any connection with the disks, or anything of thet nature, nor is the material from Murray Island to blame. Certainly I don't think you'd suffer from completing your report on your mission, and sending me your affidavit. Also, you'll have some money coming for that, and no sense to tossing thet out of the window. It is unfortunate that the thing seemed so big you had to call in army intelligence, but it will take them a long t#me +o proceed tothe point @'ve reached inthis disk nystepye You see, you aren't the first to see then. They've been known for nearly forty years, and I have emple proof of that. But your experience was the first real break toward a solution. I'd hate to have you drop the matter when all remaining to do is to file your report with me, Crisman is willing to contribute his share. I hope you will too. This thing must not be hushed up and forgotten, It's much too importent to the people of America, if not the wrld. And no eensorship of the matter is legale You needn't feer that angle. You certainly did a bang-up job of investigation, also you wrote one of the best articles about your June 2h experience I've ever seen. Please do the same on this last business. You Gwe it to those two men tho were killed. I'd also like to know what developed on those pictures yeu took of those "dicks", or whatever they weree

We ~2e ary » . In short, I'd like to have you continue to keep in contact with me, and relay to me anything furtier you learn. In turn, I'll give you the whole story, which I'm just about ready to break (not in the newsparers). And if it was as Cangerous as you seem to suspect, I'm afraid I'd have been & corpse long agoé But, and this is all you need remember, those disks aro not red corpaseles in your eyeball, and they are not something we can forget about with an ostrich in the sand ettitude. we've got to solve them, public hysteria or no. As for that hysteria, if laughing is hysterie, that's all the hysteria I've noticedé By all means, I want to thank you for the work you've done. a You know your business, and you handled it like e major. But I'm hoping you do the easy part now and get that report on paper. A check for your June 24 article is going out to you. Sincerely yours, Cobbhus va R. As Palmer

305 STUDIO BUILDING 1718 SHERMAN AVENUE EVANSTON, ILLINGIS : oo >t June 26, 1947 ,& yy Se cell cg YC a. Mr. Kenneth Arnold, aie aa Boise, Idaho “ne Dear Mr. Arnold: I have just read an account in the Chicago Tribune concerning an aerial train composed of at least 9 units shaped like a pie-plate and silvery in color, traveling at 1200 m.p.h. near Mount Ranier, as witnessed by you while flying in the vicinity. This is quite important to me, because I have in my possession numerous independent confirmations of what you saw, although none in as great detail as your account. I am interested in publishing an article in our magazine, written from a personal account by yourself, and accompanied by pix of yourself, plane, and rough sketches by yourself, of what you saw. If you care to do this for me, I am prepared to pay our usual rates of 2¢ perword, plus $5.00 for each photograph you can provide, or for each sketch which can be used by our art staff to illustrate the article. i Included in this material, we'd like a short biographical s sketch of yourself as "author background" material. The article would appear under your by-line,. If you are not interested, I wuld at least appreciate a letter from you, confirming the newspaper story. Very truly yours, 4 al SAP ‘ Raymond A. Palmer Editor, The Venture Press In your reply, please use airmail.

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. io STANDARD FORM NO. 64 © td = . —~ . ‘ Sy) é Office Memourandum + onrrep starz. -OVERNMENT 65-480 { fgto : ikaiiall PBI DATE: August 20, 1947 l FROM p SAC Butte Ms + sori (— Discs Lippe y al Refer teletype to the Bureau dated August 15, 1947, eS hice fh Enclosed please find the newspaper account carried by the Twin Falls, CG Idého "Times News" on August 15, together with a sheet of paper on which As Ceo Pe \ URIE attempted to sketch his impressions of the instrument which he claims to ~~ “~~ / Shave seen, . Concerning URIE's sketches, it may be noted that he believed the rolled outer edge which he attempted to create in his drawing to have been about a foot through. URIE likewise believed that the tubing or exhaust flame which 5 he and his sons claim to have seon was about a foot through and extended at least to the back end of the device. The flame did not appear to taper off nor to widen out toward the back. SEAS and SALT URIS stated that they could see a knot on the side of the device fram which the ‘flames were shooting, and that they could see day~ light between the exhaust flame and the side of the device, The flames did not leave any smoke or odors a The URIE boys thought that the "side view" sketch should show that 2 Fs} the device was more sharply angled from bottom to top, while URIE himself © thought that it was more streamlined and curved, URIE said that the instru- 3 E ment came to a pointed or rounded top. DEFERRED Toni na In his notations, URIE mistakenly said tht he had seen it on Thurs- 8 dey. During interview, he stated that it actually had been on Wednesday, Fs _ August 13, 1947, when he and his sons saw the contrivance about 1:00 P. Me \e URIE explained that he had sent his boys to the river to get some af rope from his boat. When he thought they were overdue, he went outside his tool shed to look for them, He noticed them about 300 feet away looking in the sky and he glanced up to see what he called the flying disc. He said he 1 could only see it for a moment before it disappeared behind a hill which 4, obscured his views. ; a AO URIE further stated that the contrivance was about seventy-five feet in the air. URIE resides in the depths of the Snake River Canyon, which is about four hundred feet deep and twelve hundred feet across at that place. = According to his accoxwnt, the contrivance was about three hundred feet below the rim of the canyon and he saw it against the steep walls of the canyon on the far side. He, iribed its color as sky blue and stated that he doubted if it could be /egaxhst the skye He likewise said tmt it was purely by COPIES shee eS w A gl not spin like ® Pu Y ht - OPIES DE VES ps y kul Z 1297 ‘ s OV i * f {7 neces oat 270 Nowid)ioged Aol | yf INDEXED bZ $ of Wi ae ZV) 194i ~ y i 5 B Vi g7t M ‘ Ps) BS : AK on i {f ~ SA SEP 22 1847 by a Wy, - n/ ’ OMCT SR: | ap 66 awh

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TIMES-NEWS, TWIN FALLS, IDAHO [Four Parl | Twin Falls News in Brief |\"0"" *9"'°¥s l hg ne | Set on Cassia © | go visit Here | Marriage License vi Y Aurelia Stark, Portland, Ore. is! Kenneth Miracle and Esta Jay S chool Pla Wis op arriving here soon to visit Mr. and | pearson, both of Twin Falls, received c la Mrs. Phil A. Snow. | marriage license ‘Thursday at the (From Page One) it nown | — | courthouse. | Sublett; 14, Almo; 24, Hazel; F Ineans.| Births H nator Hy Bridge, 50, Springdale; 31, View, nsmits| A daughter was born Thursday | Rector Returns |32, Moulton a beets.|to Mr. and Mrs. Rudy Wageman, | 4 1 is, rector of | The above districts would be. made| Filer, ‘at the ‘Twin Falls county | The EScpalGhuien or the aosens | comporatad into one district why. 8 special | general hospital maternity home. Ica and Mrs. Rolls returned | Would elect five trustees, TruNs 3 pt with ee racine Soren % Vash,,| districts would be divided thus: iety of | Return From College | riureday «trom. Pacoma, | Weel District 1, all of Burley school diz: \3 p resist| Mr. and Mrs. Robert Van Engelen | Where they spent * | trict west of Overland and the Bur | 4 and Fred Van Engelen have re-| sizer ley-Oakley highway; district 2, all! reworm | turned from Moscow where they at-| Return to Kansas City of Burley school district east of | Ral con-|tended the summer session of the} E. L. Hoffman and his son,/Overland and the Burley-Oakley | 4 ted use| University of Idaho. | Eugene, ‘with Lucille Gahr, has re-| highway; district 3, present districts | lene di- — turned to Kansas City after visiting | of Declo, Albion, Springdale and | Phat al-| BREV Mr. and Mrs. H. B. Hogue. Mrs.| view; district 4) Oakley, Basin, |4 yhigh as | Miss Povey Visits 3 Hogue is his mother. |Moulton; and district 5, Heglar, | Fm con-| Kathleen Povey, former Spanish Saas | Malta, tba, Sublett, Almo, Bridge | Pars. instructor at Twin Falls high school,/On Trip to East Jand all present unorganized terri- | pl _mea-Jis visiting here this week. She now| srs. John Hawes and her nephew, | tory. | ane Was teaches Spanish in a high school at/S2¢ Boland, have gone to Boston paler Dis la ens | a! DDT) South Pasadena, Calif. and New York City on a two-week's reworm| Auto Recovered vacation to visit: relatives. Funeral Held for | ri |e naperaeg ee ee ag |Vsng ater Infant at Wendell | for two] automobile from near the Legion} Mrs. Robert Swanson, Denver,| wenpert, aug. 15 — Graveside | fe to at-| hall to Twin Falls police at 5:42 p.|Colo., is visiting “her sister, Mrs. | services were held ‘Thursday eve-| done at|m. Thursday and 18 minutes re) aia Kail. Mrs. Swanson is a ning for Marian Kay Ems, Wendel. hutworms. | reported he had recovered the ve-| former resident of Rupert. The infant daughter of Mr. and past two! hicle, Wh See Mrs. Kenneth Ems died at birth fione con- ee [sce . Permit ‘utsdag' morning, fields in| visits Schuberts | Atplication for a permit to build Organ ten alec | ieh as 25] Agnes Schubert, Monterey’ Park,|a 12 by 20-foot private garage of| She is survived by her parents; ay prmen fields. Celif., is visiting her brother and) iame construction was filed Friday brother. Kenneth Rey, 22, months muipawermage is done to the| sister-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. Mellin the office of the city clerk by| anda sister, Janet LaRae, 5. Burial pods, he explained, as the insects| Schubert, this month. Miss Schu-|Lola M. Vazquez, 350 Elm street,|in the Wendell conemar Was: Cone burrow into a pod at night, eat into| bert, former art instructor at Twin|who estimated the cost at $400, |the direction of the Frazier mor- the seeds, drop to the ground the| Falls high school, now teaches in eae tuary. next day, and enter another pod | California Moose to Meet Shia ea aN the next night. He recommended — Members of the fellowship degree | be juse of five per cent DDT dust| attend Funeral of the Moose lodge will meet «| Jenkins May Try jat the rate of 20 pounds per acre,| Out-of-town persons who attend-| 19:30 p. m. Sunday at the Moose| he and said the first application should Jed the Donald Spencer funeral in-|nai, officials announced Priday.| RUN Tests Friday be on now. clude Mrs. George Robbins, Ingle-| Refreshments will be served. by Next speaker was W. D. Hay of| wood, Calif.; Mr. and Mrs. Clifton | women of the Moose. WENDOVER, Utah, Aug. 15 (P)\— | [the PMA federal-state seed labora-| Adams, Mr. and Mrs. Ernie. Vidun, oa Ab Jenkins, holder of most of the | tory at Sacramento, Calif. He dis-| Wayne and Dorothy Adams, and ° world’s land speed records for dis- |cussed the movement of bean seed| mrs. Norma Lou Veneman, all Po- Harry Piper. 71, tances of 50 miles or more, may be- | i interstate commerce, how the] catello; Mrs. Sarah Adams, Mrs. C4 ’ 7 gin late tomorrow test runs in prep- seed should be labeled, how to name| will Severe, Mr. and Mrs. Lyman Claimed by Death | 2ztion for nis newest record as- | different varieties, and the validity] Adams, Mr. and Mrs. Orvil Adams, fey sault. of name assignments. Mr. and Mrs. Howard Adams, Mr.|_ | , Aug. 15—Harry Sylvester} p, inf 2 Carl Blackburn, of the Idaho Crop] and Mrs. Ellsworth Adams, all Oak-| Piper, 71, Buhl plumber since: 1926, cae Nite omc itie Hees Improvement association, discussed| ley; Mrs. Judson Tolman, Logan,| died at 9:20 p. m. Thursday at the |‘ nics Se i e 3 i : 2 cial that Jenkins will drive, pro- the general organization of that| Utah, and Mrs. Alice Miller, Salt|Twin Falls county general hos- nounced the car “ready to go” group and spoke of its measures for | Lake City. pie}. from complications: following |" “tne rung will be made om an 11% seed certification. | ea RS an emergency operation Tile Geile tare : : a ular track on the Bonne- ‘The delegates then adjourned to Oo Mr. Piper was born. June 6, 1875,| vine salt flats 120 miles west. o} Clear Lakes resort for a fish a William Munger, Ae ae decd seg and came to|sait Lake City. Jenkins, former ae ————___—__—___| i 2 5 Lake City mayor, hoped to make | | He is survived by his wife, Mrs a i | The Hospital | 38, Passes Here Nettie Clussman Piper; three | Micial runs early next week, | William H. Munger, 38, 305 Locust | daughters, Mrs. Harry Kinter, Buhl: | street north, died at 11 a. m, Friday| Mrs. James F. Perchal, Twin Falls 9 = a Emerzency beds only were avail- or re ee ‘a . re

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4 ‘Saucer’ Seen Flying Down ‘ ts) Snake Gorge aie (U) $ (From Page One) river facing toward the north. ‘The boys saw it coming about half a | mile up the canyon, and we all lost |sight of it in less than a mile.” While the impression was. still | vivia in their minds, the three got | together and made rough sketches of what they had seen. These, in turn, were the basis for the artist’s conception of the strange affair by Vic Goertzen of Twin Falls for the Times-News. “It was all one color—sort of a light sky blue with a red, tubular 'S.fiery glow at the side of the top or K.nood,” Urie continued. “The canyon floor is rough at hat qparticular point, and it rode ‘up and down over the hills and hol- lows at a speed indicating some type of control faster than the reflexes of man. It 1s my opinion that it is guided by instruments and must be powered by atomic energy, as it made very little noise—just a s-w-i-s-h as it passed by.” Urie described the size as about 20 feet long by 10 feet high and k|10 feet wide, giving it an oblong shape, It might be described as look- ing like an inverted pie-plate or broad-brimmed straw hat that had been compressed from two sides. | Pressed for his candid opinion of just what it was, Urie said that he was convinced that there was some- thing to this flying saucer situation. “I know a number of the people who have also seen them and I know that they’re not just imagining something or trying to get their mames in the paper,” Urie com- mented. “I do know that it scared the boys and made me feel pretty uneasy,” he added. ‘Tracing down a rumor that County Commissioner Hawkins had seen an unusual object. in the air on the same day as Urie’s experience, the| em | Times-News called him at his Filer| home. | “Yes, I did,” he replied without hesitation. “I'l have to admit I've| been skeptical all along until T saw | it with my own eyes. I can’t say what it was, but I can say there’s something in the air.” Hawkins related that while at Salmon dam Wednesday morning, a sound resembling the echo of a motor caused him to look upward, and there he saw two circular ob- jects that reflected light. They were traveling at a great speed and higher than most airplanes, accord- Hing to Hawkins. Aside from this, he declined to add details, except to say, “There's something in the air.” His general description, however, corresponded. closely to those of hundreds of persons who reported seeing flying saucers after Kenneth Arnold, Boise businessman, had touched off the deluge by telling of coming upon nine disc-like objects while he was flying in his private plane in Washington. ‘Thereafter, the nation became in- creasingly flying saucer conscious, creating a state of mind that made it possible for four "teen age Twin Falls boys to cause a mild sensa- tion when they built a model flying disc and tossed into a local yard July 10. This was subseuently re- vealed as a hoax, following investi- gation by the army and FBI. Thereafter the saucer reports j tapered off into a few scattered in- cidents until the question was re- vived by this week’s occurrences. Speculation has ranged from mention that the discs could be army or navy guided missile experi- ments, or that they could be similar experiments by some foreign coun- try, to “something out of this world.” Whatever, they are, a lot of people have seen “something.” j

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COPY . : % , OCAPN/KDS: cp #3724-1 24 July 1947 MEMORANDUM. TO THE SECURITY OFFICER, OCAMA, TINKER FIELD. SUBJECT: BYRON B. SAVAGE, Field Engineer, Radio Corporation of America, Dallas, Texas. Residence: 416 N. W. 29h Street, Oklahoma City, Oklahome. ) RE: Flyind Disc. On 23 July 1947, BYRON B. SAVAGE was interviewed at his residence, 416 N. W. 29th Street, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, relating to his alleged viewing of a flying dise over the vicinity of Oklahoma City, Oklehomas Subject, whose age is 38, advised he is married end has one child, end is presently the holder of a Private Pilot's License, No. 39101 (Single Engine, Lend), Subject averred he has extensively studied electron- ics, sound engineering end aeronautics, and his present occupation, which is Field Engineer for Radio Corporation of America, offices of which are located in Dallas, Texas, is that of installing theater sound equipment. SAVAGE stated that between the days 17 May to 21 Mey 1947, just after dusk, he observed an object which he believed to be a small aircraft in the south. SAVAGE advised that the sun had just gone down and the moon had not arisen on the horizon. SAVAGE related thet he and his wife had just departed their residence and had sterted to enter their car in the driveway at 416 N, W. 29th Street, Oklahoma City. He judged the time to be between 8:30 p.em, end 9:00 p.m., and the lights from the city of Oklahoma City appeared to be shining on this object when he first saw it. He judged the object to be about 160° in the south when he first saw it, and as it moved : toward him he remarked to his wife that "a big white plene wes coming over.” SAVAGE stated that when this object was at a 45° angle from him, he realized it was not a conventional type aircraft, and it eppeared elliptical at first end as it moved closer it appeared perfectly round and wes flate SAVAGE advised the object, which appeared to him as e disc, had no appearance of being spherical and had a ratio of diameter to the thickness of approxi- mately 10 to 1, appearing thicker in the center, but this could not be 4 positiely ascertained, SAVAGE judged the object to be at en altitude of between 10,000 and 18,000 feet, and it left no trailing effects. SAVAGE related that it appeared to be in bulk as big as the bulk of six Be29s at an eltitude of spproximately the same height. SAVAGE advised that the object was in his vision approximately 15 to 20 seconds and travelled at a speed which he judged to be approximately three times that of jet-propelled aircrafts

: oo % ay Memo“to the Security Officer, OCAMA, Tinker Field, dtd 4/47, File 3724-1, SAVAGE stated thet there were no protrusions on this object end as it went by he listened for a sound of noise, snd at one time thouzht he dis- tinguished a swishing sound like the rushing of eir., This swishing sound occurred a few seconds after this object had passed him. SAVAGE averred this sound was not very loud end did not last very long, end it is very possible that the sound could heve been his imagination or expectation, as he wes not sure of the sound. SAVAGE related thet he called his wife to ‘ see this object but it had disappeared before she could focus her eyes on it. Subject stated thet the object appeered to diminish in size and speed as it moved eWay, and it wes moving in a direction of 350° to the north. Subject/steated thet the object eppeared to be frosty white in color at all times. SAVAGE advised that he has held a pilot's certificate since 1934 end has been flying since 1929. He advised that he would be glad to answer any further inquiries and will cooperate in ‘every way possible. SAVAGE stated he was sure this object was not a meteor snd in his opinion it must be radically built snd powered, probably atomice KALMAN D. SIMON c.I. U.S. Army

S ase COPY ees % Incident Sie 4AF 1208 I 16 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGEs 1. On 12 July 1947, Mr. Kenneth Arnold, Box 387, Boise, Idaho, was interviewed in regard to the report by Mr, Arnold that he saw 9 strenge objects flying over the Cascede Mountein Range of Washington State on July 25th. Mr. Arnold voluntarily sgreed to give the interviewer @ written report of exactly what he hed seen on the above mentioned dete. The written report of Mr. Arnold is attached to this report as Exhibit A, AGENT'S NOTES: Mr, Arnold is a man of 32 years of age, being married md ~° the father of two children. He is well thought of in the community in 3; which he lives, being very much the family men end from ell appearances @ very good provider for his family. Mr. Arnold has recently purchesed a home on the outskirts of Boise, recently purchased a $5,000 sirplene in which to conduct his business to the extent of which is explained in the attached exhibit. It is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Mr, 4rnold actually saw whet he stated thet he sew, It is difficult to believe that a men of Mr. Arnold's character and epparent integrity would state thet he saw objects end write up a report to the extent that he did if he did not see them. To go further, if Mr. Arnold cen write e report of the cheracter thet he did while not having seen the objects that he claimed he sew, it is the opinion of the interviewer thet Mr. Arnold is in the wrong business, that he should be writing Buck Rogers fiction. Mr. Arnold is very outspoken snd somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the U. S. Army Air Forces and the Federal Bureeu of Investigation for not having made an investigation of this matter sooner. To put all of the statements mede by Mr. Arnold in this report would make it a voluminous volune. However, efter having checked an aeronautical map of the erea over which Mr. Arnold claims that he saw the objects it wes determined thet all statements made by Mr. Arnold in regard to the distances involved, speed of the objects, course of the objects and size of the objects, could very possibly be facts. The distences mentioned by Mr, Arnold in his report are within a short distance of the actual distences on eeroneutical charts of this area, although Mr. 4rnold has never consulted aeronattical charts of the type the Army uses. Mr. Arnold stated that this business hed suffered greatly since his report on July 25 due to the fact that et every stop on his business routes, large crowds of people were waiting to question him as to just wheat he had seen, Mr. Arnold stated further thet if he, st any time in the future, saw anything in the sky, to quote Mr. Arnold directly, “if I sew a ten story building FRANK M. BROWN, S/A, CIC 4th AF

2 Incident 4AF 1208 I 7 flying through the eir I would never say a word about it", due to the fact that he has been ridiculed by the press to such on extent thet he is practically a moron in the eyes of the majority of the population of the United States. 1 Incl: Exhibit "A" r FRANK M. BROWN, S/A, CIC 4th AF

“ » COPY A is a SOME LIFE DATA ON KENNETH ARNOLD I wes born March 29, 1915 in Subeke, Minnesote. My father's neme was Edward Erb Arnold; my mother's maiden name was Bertha E. Barden. I was « resident of Minnesota until’ I was six years old when my family moved to Scobey, Montana, where they home- steaded, My grandfether, Rolend C,. Arnold elso homesteaded in Scobey, Montena, snd became quite prominent in political circles along with Burton K, Wheeler, the femous Montene senator, I went to grede school and high school at Minot, North Dakota, I entered scouting at twelve years of age end achieved the rank of Hagle scout before I was fourteen. My former scout executive was H. H. Prescott, now a regional commissioner for the Boy Scouts in Kenses City, Kansas, As 0 boy, I was interested in athletics and was selected as an all-state end in 1932 and 1933 in the state of North Dakote. I entered the U. S. Olympic tra&als in fancy diving in 1932; I wes a Red Cross Life Saving Exeminer during the years of 1952, '33 and ‘34, I taught swimming end diving at scout camps end the municipal pool in Minot, North Dekota. I went to the University of Minnesota, where I swam end did fancy diving under Neils Thorpe, end elso played footbell under Bernie Biermen, but upon entering college I was unable to continue my football career because of en injured knee, My high school foot- bell coach was Glenn L, Jerrett, who is now the head football coach of the University of North Dakota. I had little or no finences, and my ambition in furthering my education in college

~ $ ; i OOTY Baw ‘| “Page 2 - Some Life deta on Kemeth Arnold was through my athletics. 4s a boy in Minot, North Dakote, I did e good deal of dog sled recing, placing first with my-dog in 1930 in the Lions Club Dog Derby. In 1938 I went to work for Red Comet, Inc, of Littleton, Coloredo, « manufacturer of automatic fire fighting epparetus. In 1939 I wes made district manager for them over e part of the western states, and in 1940 I established my own fire control supply known as the Greet Western Fire Control Supply. I have been working as an independent fire’ control engineer since, end I hendle, distribute, sell end install all types of auto- metic and manual fire fighting equipment in the rural areas over five western states, My flying experience started as a boy in Minot, North Dekote, where I took my first flying lesson from Earl 1. Vance, who was originelly from Great Falls, Montena. Due to the high cost et thet time, I was unable to continue my flying and did not fly of any great consequence until 1943. I was given my pilot certificate by Ed Leach, a senior CAA inspector of Portland, Oregon, end for the last three years have owned my ; own eirplane covering my entire territory with same end flying from forty to one hundred hours per month since. Due to the ’ fect thet I use an sirplane entirely in my work, in Januery of this year I purchased a new Callair airplene, which is an airplane designed for high altitude take-offs end short rough field usage. In the type of flying I do, it tekes @ great deel of

e ees ~ cory n r ‘ moe . : Fn : Page 3- Some Life Data on Kenneth Arnold practice end judgment to be able to land in most eny cow pasture and get out without injuring your eirplane; the : runways ere very limited and the altitude is very high in some of the fields and places I have to go in my work. To date, I have landed in 852 cow pastures in mountein meadows, end in over a thousend hours a flat tire has been my greatest mishaps

ia \ 4 4 pis a i Cm |b ¥ AT 4 ai pj) Let Si FBI SEATTLE S-14-47 S21 FM FB DIRECTOR FBI URGENT ya , yr A j Y ry CF L. Re BRUMMETT. SID/ DECKER. FLYING DISCS. INTERNAL SCURITY=X. 7], Vi AUGUST FOURTEEN eeROEK NINETEEN FORTYSEVEN SEATTLE POST INTELLIGENCER PUBLISHED ARTICLE TO EFFECT THAT L. RO[ERUMMETT, BOX TWO FIVE FOUR RED- we Grade ak MOND, WASH, AND SIDNEY DECKER BOX TWO NINE SIX REDMOND, WASHINGTON HAD SIGHTED TWO DISCS AT APPROXIMATELY NINE AM AUGUST THIRTEEN NINETEEN € FORTYSEVEN. UPON INTERVIEW DECKER STATED THAT TWO VERY BRIGHT OJECTS TRAVELING AT AN EXTREME RATE OF SPEED WERE NOTICED BY HIM AS HAAS Ps, STANDING NEAR THE REDMOND POST OFFICE. DECKER DESCRIBED THE OBJECTS AS HAVING NO WINGS, NO TAIL, AND BOTH ENDS WERE TAPERED. DECKER ADDED THAT THE OBJECTS RESEMBLED A BELLY TANK AND THAT THEY WERE NOISELESS. THE OBJECTS WERE VERY BRIGHT AND TRAVELING IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION OVER REDMOND, WASHINGTON, ONE A BIT BEHIND AND A LITTLE ABOVE THE OTHER | MAINTAINING EQUAL RATES OF SPEED FOR APPROXIMATELY EIGHT SECONDS AY, WHICH TIME THEY DISAPPEARED FROM VIEW. DECKER ADDED THAT THEY WERE <._ HIGHER THAN A PLANE GENERALLY TRAVELS. BRUMMETT ADVISED THAT HE NOTICED THE OBJECTS AND CALLED DECKERS ATTENTION TO THEM AND ALSO POINTED THEM OUT TO A MRS MAMIE ENGLISH. BRUMMETT STATED THAT HE SAW TWO OBJECTS FLYBNG. AT A FORTYFIVE DEGREE ANGLE NORTHEASTERLY Poe ser /Y hes maquoony |. bec gate & f- ; |

¥ ie = i bad 0 PAGE TWO TRAVELING AT LEAST THREE TIMES FASTER THAN A PLAN. BRUMMETT ADDED THAT HE WATCHED THE OBJECTS FROM FIVE TO EIGHT SECONDS AT WHICH TIME THEY DISAPPEARED FROM SIGHT. ACCORDING TO BRUMMETT THE OBJECTS WERE DESCRIBED AS BEING NOISELESS, HAVING NO WINGS OR TAIL, LIGHTER THAN ALUMINUM, TAPERED AT BOTH ENDS AND ONE STAYED A LITTLE BEHIND AND A BIT ABOVE THE OTHER AND BOTH MAINTAIND EQUAL RATES OF SPEED. FROM BRUMMETTS OBSERVATIO™ HE WAS UNABLE TO DECIDE WHETHER THE OBJECTS WERE FLAT OR ROUND. MRS MAMIENENGLISH STATED THAT WHEN BRUMMETT CALLED HER ATENTION TO THE OBJECTS SHE TOOK A PASSING GLANCE AT THE SKY AND COULD OFFER NO DESCRIPTION OTHER THAN THEY LOOKED LIKE TWO SILVER BALLS TRAVELING AT A FAST RATE OF SPEED. WILCOX END SHOLD PLS 9-28 PM OK FBI WASH DC GAR

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, < raman ropes te, 06 LH Fn) ts Office Memorandum + owitep s. GOVERNMENT an + Director, FBI DATE: September 20, 1947 {WROM = SAC, Chicago A are Gq) \ W y SUBJECT: "FLYING DIScs RICHARD FPS¢SHAVER - Informant Reference is made to your letter dated August 11, 1947 in the above captioned matter. Sheriff FRED BAU, McHenry County, Woodstock, Illinois, advised that he had received no reports of flying discs in the community of Lily Lake, Illinois. He further stated that he had no record or knowledge of RICHARD F. SHAVER of Lily lake. Deputy Sheriff FRANK KELLER, Lily Iaké, Illinois, advised that he was per- sonally acquainted with RICHA mAVER, whom he described as a successful mg writer of mystery stories. He said he had no information to the effect that a SHAVER was mentally unsound and he believed him to be a substantial citizen. . Mrs. R. LANNES, Lily lake Realty Company, advised she had sold property to SHAVER on two occasions and was well acquainted with SHAVER and his wife. @& She knew of no derogatory information concerning him. RICHARD SHARPH\ SHAVER was interviewed at Lily Lake, Illinois and advised that he was the featured writer of mystery stories ee ng" magazine, which Chicago, Illinois. SHAVER at ‘the outset stated that PALMER had told him the FBI would contact him regarding flying discs. y eal SHAVER indicated that the telegram received by the War Department, referred to in referenced letter, was probably sent by one of his readers, uniknowm to him. He said that he wrote mystery stories based on his firm conviction that under the earth are various caverns formerly inhabited by a super race, who have since fled to other planets. This region of caverns he calls Lemuria. He stated he believes there is valuable machinery and other resources in these cavernse He therefore explained flying discs, which he calls "space ships", as the mode of travel of the Lemurians coming from other planets to reclaim the valuable machinery. SHAVER indicated that his theories had aroused a wide following among readers of "Amazing" magazine. ‘ SHAVER exhibited an article from an edition of the "Chicago Times" for Sunday, August 3, 1947. The article stated that on June 24, 1947, on Murray Island, off the Washington Coast, there had occurred a mysterious explosion’ which was believed to have been caused by a guided missile or rocket. It Par bhege sue tad that the date of the explosion was the same date on which one KENNETARNOLD, y, a private pilot, sighted the first flying disc at Boise, Idahos /18 ere tn ott yd ft 4 yy Fy 4 COPIES DESTROYED ) R. ; 270 NOV 18 1964 Oe

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Director, FBI Re: FLYING DISCS September 20, 1947 The article went on to state that it was believed at the time that there was some correlation between the flying disc and the Murray Island explosion, and that RAYMOND PALMER, Chicago magazine editor, had employed ARNOLD to investi- gate and "cover" the Murray Island explosion. The article went on to state that on August 1, 1947, at Tacoma, Washington, there was a conference among officials of the Army and Navy, who discussed the possible relation between the Murray Island explosion and the appearance of flying discs. ARNOLD was supposed to have been in attendance at this conference. At the conference, authorities brought samples of a lava oxide metal, allegedly taken from the scene of the Murray Island explosion. The article stated that following the conference, two pilots left by plane for Hamilton Field, California, carrying samples of the lava oxide metal. The article further reported that the plane crashed near Hamilton Field, California, and it was conjectured that the plane had exploded by reason of the combustion of the lava oxide metal it carried. From the above newspaper article, it should be noted that RAYMOND PALMER, SHAVER's employer, was from the start "exploiting" the appearance of the flying dises, possibly to enhance the appeal of SHAVER's stories. It is possible, therefore, that the entire flying disc theory was conceived by PALMER and SHAVER. OAGslab 100-18999 se

, ; . é ememonito Fone No. 64 pe ~ s : Office Memorandum + owtrep states GOVERNMENT be TO : Director, FBI DATE: 9-17-47 aes AFROM . / har : SAC, Anchorage ‘ uw ® Saucer MWA hon SUBJECT: Flying /Disks : L eee Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin No. 42 dated July 30, LL Ys 1947. y, This is to advise that two army officers repprted to the [ Office of the Director of Intelligence, headquarters Alaskan Department, at Fort Richardson, Alaska, that they had witnessed an object passing through the air at a tremendous rate of speed which could not be judged as to miles per hour. The first officer stated that his attention was attracted to this airborne object, and he in turn pointed it out to the second of- ficer. The object appeared to be shaped like a sphere and did not give the impression of being saucer-like or comparable to a disk. The first~ officer stated that it would be impossible to give minute details con— cerning the object, but that it appeared to be approximately two or three feet in diameter and did not leave any vapor ~ trail in the sky. Hi is Both officers attempted to determine the approximate dititude of the object, and from a weather group stationed nearby it was de- termined that cloud formations at the time the object was sighted were” “scattered above 10,000 feet." The object was noted to be traveling below the cloud formation. The first officer stated that in his opinion the object ap- i peared to be metallic and was silver in color, mech like the color of Ge many airplanes. - is 9) The second officer stated substantially the same facts and Z also pointed out that the object remined within his vision for ap- ae) proximately 15 to 20 seconds. When sighted, the object was traveling due south at a speed considerably in excess of any plane. The second officer stated that the object appeared to him to be approximately 10 /) feet in diameter and compared it to half the size of a full moon on an j/ y, ordinary night. The second officer based the altitude at approximately vA ot the same as the first officer except for the fact that due to the size he believed the object to be, he estimated the altitude to be only approximately 3,000 or 4,000 feet. The object appeared broadside to the second officer, and no evidence of a spinning motion or reflection was noted. As to the color, the second of fii pointed out that it appeared to be a dull metal finishg a j % OPIES DESTROYED «fg ai P70. Novis 1964 (92- t

- : e Letter to Director, FBI 9-17-47 Re: Flying Disks In conclusion, the second officer pointed out that one of the remarkable features of this object was that it was definitely traveling against the wind. The exact date of the sighting of this object was not fur- nished this office, and inasmeh as it occurred previously to the re- ceipt of Bureau instructions in this matter, no further investigation is being conducted by this office mless specifically requested to do so by the Bureau. 100-1403 HLM:GWH

[STANDARD,FORM No. 64 « } : Office Memorandum + ontrep states me) ( \ Kee TO : Director, FBI DATE: September~tGy 1947 x yamdu : SAC, Philadelphia f t , Lan A / SUBJECT: FLYING OBJECT REPORTED OVER PHILADELPHIA Pa 7 —_ AUGUST 6, 1947 (J) to) Wr SABOTAGE iE a /- a 7 ff i f \g) Remytel August 7 last. Lin g Saucers ~ : — Miss ELEANOR KADDLE, 2114 Hobart Street, Philadelphia, who is employed by the GEORGE R. GREENWALD MANUFACTURING COMPANY, 1524 Chestnut Street, Philg- delphia, advised as follows: \ oa Between 10:30 and 10:45 p.m. on August 6, 1947, she was sitting on the steps of her home with CBCELIAFiNE. She was facing north and observed a large white object traveling at/a very fast rate of speed to the south. There was a buzzing sound, not too loud but plainly audible, just after this object passed through the air. This white object left in its trait a thin streak of smoke, which was grayish in colore ool Miss CECELIA FINE, 5617 Arlington Street, Philadelphia, who is en- ployed by the PRESSMAN & GUTMAN COMPANY, INC., Room 1140, P.S.F.S, Building, “ / \ Philadelphia, stated she was sitting on the steps of Miss NADDLE's home on the evening of August 6, 1947, around 10:45 pem. engaging in conversation with Miss NADDLE, when Miss NADDLE abruptly stopped in the:middle of her con- versation and appeared to be frightened. Miss FINE at that time was sitting in a position in which she was facing southe She did not see any object in the sky after noting Miss NADDLE's change of expression, but she did hear a slight buzzing sound. JOHN SNYDER, 1440 Vankirk Street, Philadelphia, an insurance agent, who was a former pilot of B-24's in the Army Air Corps, advised as follows: He was sitting on the steps of his home around 10:45 p.m. on August 6, 1947, with his wife; and his neighbors, the KELLY family, were sitting on their steps next door to the residence of SNYDER. All of the above parties were facing east. SNYDER noticed at this time an object, emitting a bluish- white flame, passing quickly through the air. The object was traveling from northeast to southwest. Using his experience in the Army Air Corps as a guide, SNYDER estimated the above object was between 1000 and 3000 feet in the air and traveling at a rate of between 400 to 500 miles an hour. This object dia / not lose elevation as it passed through the air and left either smoke or a condensation trail in its former path, which lasted for about two seconds. A hissing sound accompanied the passing s object. This sound was moder- ate and not nearly as loud as thé\nt ‘agecompanying the passage of a rocket $ ship. ees) a ff : 20 hee ARS A i fi “=CORDEp! bz 5 bee 6 hg | fi} wp eS TE 270 NOV 18 iv04 x

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eo ae @ é Director, FBI September 18, 1947 JOHN J. KELLY, 1442 Vankirk Street, who is a retired police officer of the Philadelphia Police Department, advised as follows: Around 10:45 p.m. on August 6, 1947, he and his wife were sitting on the steps of their home, when KELLY noticed an object, resembling to him a giant firecracker, pass quickly through the air. KELLY heard no noise, but the object had completely passed from view in a southern direction within a split second. It left a fiery trail for about 100 feet. August 6, 1947, was a clear night, and no storm was brewing. KELLY was sure the object he saw was no falling star, and he noted the above object did not seem to be falling but maintained the same altitude. The wives of SNYDER and KELLY verified the accounts of their husbands as to the above-mentioned object. \ It is to be noted that the SNYDERS and the KELLYS live in Northeast. | \ Philadelphia near Oxford Circle, which is about ten miles removed from the residence of Miss NADDLE. Miss NADDLE's residence is located in the western part of Philadelphia. The Misses NADDLE and FINE are not known to the above- mentioned KELLYS and SNYDERS. It is further noted the observation of Miss NADDLE, the KELLYS, and the SNYDERS roughly correspond. All of the above persons seem reliable and not the type to seek publicity or to spread rumors. Miss NADDLE and Jowlstit cal ted the "Inquirer", Philadelphia news- paper, and inquired if it could offer any explanation as to what they had seen. A representative of that paper had advised Miss NADDLE and KELLY that the object they saw may have been some product of an oil refinery or chemical company in their neighborhood. Both the Offices of Naval Intelligence and Army Intelligence in Phila- delphia were requested by the Philadelphia Office to ascertain if either the Army or the Navy was doing any experimental work on new types of planes or equipment, in the vicinity of Philadelphia. Such was done with negative re- sults. The Office of Naval Intelligence indicated that an explosion had oc- 4 curred at the CHARLES LENNIG CHEMICAL COMPANY on August 6, 1947. S. A. GIMBEL, Safety Department of the CHARLES LENNIG CHEMICAL COMPANY, INC., 5000 Richmond Street, Philadelphia, advised as follows: The above company is a manufacturer and distributor of chemicals. A fire had occurred on a dump of the company on August 6, 1947, but was quickly gotten under control. Such fire was confined to the company's prem- ises and could not have been observed from outside the plant. The CHARLES -2<

seg e é Director, FBI September 18, 1947 LENNIG COMPANY is about two and one-half miles southeast from Oxford Circle. The account of the fire does not seem to fit into the general pattern of the above-mentioned flying object, for itis noted that the flying object was allegedly traveling from a position northeast of Oxford Circle to a south- westerly direction in Philadelphia. GIMBEL pointed out that, to the best of his knowledge, there are no oil refineries and chemical companies located around Oxford Circle or north of such, but that all of the companies of this type are several miles south of Oxford Circle. All logical investigation having been conducted, no further action will be taken on the instant matter unless advised to the contrary by the Bureau. FFB/ctg 98-1762 H ays

ee ee ae b - t September 27, 1947 : A j i | : Major General George C. McDonald 4 Assistant Chief Air Staff - 2 The Pentagon Washington, D. C RECORDED f 4. | pe / Dear General McDonald: The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been requested by your office to assist in the investigation of reported sight- ings of flying discs. v : My attention has been called to instructions disseminated by the Air Forees relative to this matter. I have been advised that these instructions indicate that the Air Forces would inter= view responsible observers while the FBI would investigate incidents of dises found on the ground, thereby relieving the Air Forces of Spey running down incidents which in many cases turned out to be “ash L ean covers, toilet seats and whatnot." In view of the apparent understanding by the Air Forces of the position of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in this matter, I cannot permit the personnel and time of this organiza- tion to be dissipated in this manner. I am advising the Field Divisions of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to discontinue all investigative activity regard- ae ing the reported sightings of flying discs, and am instructing them “ to refer all complaints received to the appropriate Air Force e representative in their area. ¢ Sincerely yours, fi John Edgar Hoover: / Director x f ee capenenetet | 4064, ay, ws = ik { walle Oy ' eae V5e, shee aay iis ond 42 ct)

SS arvana ere é é i Office Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO 3 THE DIRECTOR ) DATE: September 25, 1947 FROM : DD, M. IADD Sy a ee i + Me { \Y/ itt ciees eC Nye i= SUBJECT: FLYING DISeS } ats =—— aa ——— J : Tracy YE fare — The Bureau was requested by the Air Forces Intelligence to assis}: “™{— the Air Forces in attempting to arrive at an explanation of the above Rie phenomena. The Air Forces indicated that the alleged sightings of flying Hise etsy —— discs might have been made by individuals of Communist sympathies for the __—""— purpose of causing mass hysteria in the United States over the fear of a secret Russian weapone The Bureau agreed to assist in the investigation of the reported sightings, and the Field was advised in Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, dated July 30, 1947, that they should investigate each instance which was brought to their attention of the sighting of a flying disc in order to ascertain whether or not it was a bona fide sighting, an imaginary one, or @ pranke The results of the investigation conducted by the Bureau Field Offices in this matter have failed to | reveal any indication of subversive individuals being involved in any of the reported sightings. The Bureau has received a communication in the captioned matter from the Special Agent in Charge at San Francisco, dated September 19, 1947, which attached a "restricted" letter that was furnished confidentially to the SAC at San Francisco by Lieutenant Colonel Donald Le Springer, A-2, Army Air Forces, Hamilton Field, California, a copy of which is attached hereto. It is noted that the letter, which is dated September 3, 1947, is signed "By Command of lieutenant General Stratemeyer" by Colonel Re He Smith, Assistant Chief of Staff Intelligence, Headquarters, Air Defense Command, Mitchel Field, New York, and is addressed to the Commanding Generals of the various Air Forces. This letter is entitled "Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigations of 'Flying Disc' Incidents." This letter states in substance that it was the original intent of the AC/AS-2, Headquarters, Army Air Forces that whereas the ADC Air Forces would interview responsible observers, the FBI would investigate incidents of so-called dises being found on the ground. Further, it indicates that the services of the j FBI were enlisted in order to relieve the numbered Air Forces of the task of tracking down all the many instances which turned out to be "ash can covers, z |} toilet seats and whatnot.” y) )°~ RECOMMENDATION: \ It is recommended that the Bureau protest vigorously to the Assistant Chief of Air Staff - 2. It is also recommended that the Bureau discontinue all activity in this field and that the Bureau Field Offices be advised to discon- tinue all investigations and to refer all complaints received to the Air Forces. A proposed Bulletin is attached for your approval. os a2 JG a} 4 : 008 G2 4374 AKI Ay \ if a smiasa OO 9 see, Gane Re a ae swine (4h) KP [Serer eet ABR v q-ae “/ q AO

« te . 7 - & ’ a a é “4 “Ay . +4 - Feo Daten ass copy HEADQUARTERS AIR DEFENSE COMMAND Mitchel field, New York In reply refer tos D333 .5EX 3 September 1947 SUBJECT: Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigations of "Flying Disc" Incidents. TOs: Commanding Genrals, First, Second, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh end Fourteenth Air Forces ATTENTION; Assistant Chief of staff, A-2 1. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has agreed to assist Air Force Intelligence personnel in the investi getion of "flying disc" incidents in order to quickly and effectively rule out what are pranks and to concentrate on what appears to be a genuine incident. 2. It was the original intent of the AC/AS-2, Headquarters, Army Air Forces that whereas the ADC Air Forces would interview respon- sible observers whose names would be furnished by AAF, the FBI would investigate incidents of so called "discs" being found on the ground. The services of the FBI were enlisted in order to relieve the numbered Air Forees of the task of tracking down all the many instances which turned out to be ash can covers, toilet seats and whatnot. 5. It is requested that each A-2 informally coordinate and cooperate with the FBI, generally keeping the FBI informed of any proposed calls that intelligence personnel will make on this subject. Very shortly, with the separation of the AAF from the War Department, a firm policy will be established to clarify the liaison arrangements between A~2's end FBI Special Agents. Presently, it is considered inadvisable to promulgate a formal interim policy -- only to have it replaced in a month or so by another. BY COMMAND OF LIEUTENANT GSNERAL STRATEMEYER: /s/ Rs BH. SMITH R. He SMITH Colonel, GSC Asst Chief of Staff-Intell. eq palit

STANDARD FontagpyrS4*, ? r c Office Men... 1tdWm + ONITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO > MR. LADD ot Toy DATE: SEPTEMBER 23, 1947, FROM : §, G. FITCHEy/ /l/% i digg cil 2 h SUBJECT: INSTRUMENT FOUND ON FARM NEAR 2 i _ DANFORTH, ILLINOIS Cu ri . in} a Reference is made to a memorandum to Mre Harbo from Mre Baughman ies oom snes on the above-captioned matter, dated September 3, 1947. The reference Mise i memorandum indicates that the instrument has been examined by the Laborato and the laboratory had contacted a Mrs. Whedon of the Army Engineers and she ig Ley indicated that the instrument had been used by the Air Forces on tests which ORE! were classified as "Top Secret." The memorandum indicates that Special Agent S. W. Neynolds of the Liaison Section contacted the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces and was advised that Mrs. Whedon alluded that the instrument was used in "Operation Mogul." The instru- ment was loaned to the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces who in turn forwarded it to Wright Field. The report was received from Wright Field indicating the instyument had no connection wity*Speration Mops” or any other operation at Wright Field. It was classified as a hi in view of the apparent discrepancy between information developed from Mrs. Whedon and information received from Intelligence Division of the Air Forces that the Bureau might wish to pursue this matter further. Mre Zimmers of the Technical laboratory advised Mr. Reynolds of the Liaison Section that Mrs. Whedon had told him that a Major Hopkins handled the Liaison in Washington for the tests in which this instrument was used. Ijeutenant Colonel George Garrett of the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces advised Special Agent Reynolds that he contacted Major Hopkinse He advised that Major Hopkins has had a great deal of experience in radio and along technical linese Major Hopkins advised Colonel Garrett that the instrument could not have been used in the "Operation Mogul." Hopkins indicated that from the pictures and particles recovered, it appeared to him to be a part or portions of an old-type radio loud speaker. f In view of the information received from Major Hopkins, Colonel se stated that he was at a loss as to how to explain the actions of Mrs. Whedon other than to say that she perhaps gave a false impression as to her knowledge of the yy instrument and the "Operation Mogul." Garrett pointed out that in view of the FT\ report received from Wright Field, together with the statement made by Major Hopkins, he felt that there was sufficient evidence that this instrument was not used in any! boy Es baad classified project and that in all probability it was just a hoax. We Ferce RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended that this memorandum be forwarded to the Technical Laboratory for their information. 9) > OGL A) Er By ) ¥ DEXED 32 goTBRE to ee of » - i | eee Bd ae

Pp: a A a = rad Vea] Te ee ge : q Wer qdle \) ‘ no) TSNAD—2B/AG/bk ey, Dw \\ Lg \ 25 August 1917 ee’ \ \ (\ V r\t \ NY $\ SUBJECT: Flying Saucer, Authority NND 90986, TOs Commanding General } | Aray Mr Forces des Washington 25, De Ce ATIN: AC/AS@2 Lt Col George Garrett Cc l The specimens of an alleged "Flying Saucer" brought to this Command by Colonel H., M. MeCoy, which were obtained by the FBI and given te IteCol Garrett, were examined to determine their connection, if any, with the soecalled “Flying Saucers", or any project at Hy AMG, Wright Field. The specimens were carefully examined by both techmicians of the Analysis Division (T-2) and Electronics Subedivision (T=3), Ths latter organization stated that these specimens definitely had no connection whatsoever with the "Mogul" project nor with any other research and devele opment project of this Command, os 2. It is also the opinion of this Command that these specimens have no connection with the so-called "Flying Saucer" or "Disc", These S specimens, therefore, are considered as part of a hoax that could be pere ay petrated by most anyone seeking publicity or for any other reasons. 3. The specimens shown in the attached photograph include frage Wy ments of an undeterminable shape made from plaster of paris or similar ceramic and containing some electrical resistance wire for measurement or heating purposes. The condition of the ceramic indicates that the resistance wire was heated electrically at one time or another. These fragments could not be connected with any AMC project. ‘The other articles at the top of the photograph reading from left to right are identif: as ~ follows: is ot ah“, oti* Se An outmoded type of magnetic speaker diaphragm made’of alun- inum alloy, manufactured by The Wathaniel Baldwin Company of Salt Lake City, Jtah, which was first patented May 1, 1910. This article cannot be connected with any ANC project. De The second and thimd erticles are bakelite coil forms 5 2 CORDED AbnitEs.

" 2, O3,Aar, Wash. ro” § 25 August 1947 SpPjects Flying Saucers 4 > wrapped with ordinary thin enameled copper wire, These coils indicate that they were skillfully uade at one time but were crudely rewrapped by one not familiar with the art of making a coil, These coils also have no connection with any AMG project. c. The fourth article is a metallic box which is the remains of an electronic filter emdenser made by the Polymet Manufacturing Company of New York, Ne Y. This article also has no connection with any ANG proe ject, ad. ‘The fifth article is the remains of a metallic magnetic ring that could not be identified as any part of any device used at this commands 4. This information and attached photograph may be transmitted to the FBI to inform various agencies throughout the United States as to what action to take in the event other similar specimens are found, FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: i. UM. MeCcYy 2 Incl: Colonel, Air Corps 1 Photo S-1/2x12 Deputy Commanding General “Plying Saucer" Intelligence (T-2) 2 é 4 : SOA SE AR

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Front No. 64 @ @ Office Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT 7 ‘TO : Director, FBI DATE: Septembér 15, 1947, rs A CA FROM : SAC, Salt Lake City i eg (; Ae WZ Tey, at 2) a) 4 if ee V SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS. Vs Gai oe Se nee WY > ‘(108 2 od lf Remytel tenth instant. (>) 4 dg 7 << On September 10, 1947 an item relative to flying saucers appeared in Y yee Salt Lake Tribune indicating that two young couples, Mr. and Mrs. GAYLON \ A PeRLDMELL and Mr. andMrs; RICHARDZRTERS IN, Logan, Utah, ‘who had been playing bridge, reported that they saw three brief flights of saucers, the first at 10:40 p.m. and two more before 11:10 p.m. the evening of Septenber 8, 1947. This news articlegiso contained the namesof KEIDARUGHES, JOANZEROUKSTON, and Mr. and Mrs. PeEPTTONELL of Logan who had likewise made separate reports of having observed these flying discs. Mr. and Mrs. RICHARD ANDERSON, when interviewed by an Agent of this office, advised that they, in company with Mr. and Mrs. GAYLON CALDWELL, observed approximately a dozen objects flying in group formation at about two or three thousand feet in the air. They stated that they first observed these objects on September 8, 1947 at 10:30 p.m. when their bridge game broke up and both couples went out on the porch. The ANDERSONS believed these objects to be similar in size to pigeons and stated that they seemed to be rather white and illuminated. They informed that the objects could have been birds; however, they appeared to be- moving faster than birds as they circled the city in anproximately one to two minutes, and then disappeared in a northern direction. Mr, and Mrs, ANDERSON claimed to have observed no wing movement during the flight, and are unable to make up their minds as to exactly what they saw. Mr. ANDERSON informed that Mr. and Mrs. CALDWELL are presently en route to an unknown city in Nebraska. Mr. KEITH HUGHES and JOAN CROOKSTON both advised that they were unable to state how their names appeared in the newspaper as havine observed flying y, saucers inasmuch as neither had ever had the opportunity to view these flyangy~ objects, and the newspaper report was erroneous. fuge a of Mrs FRED THUNELL advised that,,she, her husband, and five other people had observed flying objects between 10:30 and 11:00 p.m. on the evening of r September 8, 1947. She stated that they ‘saw five groups, each containing thirty-five to sixty small objects, which were rather yellowish white in color and were circling the city at a high rate of speed. Mrs. THUNELL stated that these objects were several thousand feet in the air and it was impossible for a) then to determine the size due to the distance, speed and_cloudy o agtiong // /K%; : RECORDED [INDEXED C27 2 Soke ar 4 / Mrs. THUNELL informed that Mr,—ang- | ay pate Mr. Wad Map. H. P. iwo=zs0n, and Mrs, ssf HONDRECKS wefe peetnt Bnd observed thejflgane objects; however, none ¢ fom juere pble~to determine what these objects might have been. Need G ke) | ‘1S ly eG U ”) Py ™~ e > pale

Mr. and Mrs, norm, Logan, Utah, advised that they viewed flying objects traveling clockwise above the city at approximately 10:30 p.m. the evening of September 8, 1947. They informed that they first believed the objects to be lights of an airplane. However, these objects seemed to change in formation and appeared to be similar to a group of moving stars. My, and Mrs, HALL believed these objects were traveling much faster than birds. It was determined that Mr. and Mrs. H. P, ANDERSON and Mrs. BESSIE HENDRICKS were not available for interview: Captain B. E. NASON, Military Intellisence Division, Fort Douglas, Salt Lake City, Utah, is being advised by letter of the results of this investiration. In view of the indefinite information furnished relative to this matter, no further investigation is being conducted by this office. SMK: LMS

x 427 W 3a Avenue Spokane, Washington August 8, 1947 filitery Intelligence Division, UeS.A. icChord Field, Washington Followirig the reading of an account of the visit of Mr. Kenneth rnold, Boise, Idaho, as pub. ished in the Spokesman Review under date of ist ‘7, 1947, the under: ed considered the enclosed account of This account has not been given to any newspaper or other publica= Yours truly, /s/ R. J. Madden Re Je MADDEN Division Plant ‘ngre p. The Pace Tel. & Tels Coe Go py

= w A a” ¢ & § eport on a "Flying oa ucer” t or about 12:05 pelley July 25 1947, a sedan, driven by Steve ny erry to York, both in Montana some 25 miles N.be of Hi lena hen at a point approximtely 1/4 mile NeW. of Canyon ferry (as shown nm Forest Service Map to be in the NEZ of NB{ of Sec. 10 TION Ri) Karl suddenly shouted "See it! See it§ There's a flying saucer$" Steve inned- jately slowed down and gradually brought the squan to a stop, he and Bob tieamuhile scanning the sky in the direction pointed by Karl in an ef ort to see the lying saucer", but without success. »proxumiately ten seconds elapsed between the time Karl reported seeing the "saucer", coming over the h rizon at high speed from the so thvest, (Karl syst thought it a meteor) and travelling northe sterly, and the bringing of following: ri nf about five seconds then, while at the top of an asceltl, th tdisc" clear air within a distance of 200 fte +hst is to say it did not pass xeyond an obstruction to further visibility but "melted inte thin air® as if ecause of tremendous Speede This disc was, fromthe viewpoint of the observers, apps rently 3 ft. vrightly and the disc gleamed and § immered in the bright sunlight as if ter the "disc" disappearedf rom view, the sedan and its occupants ence of the "disc" along or jacent to that thorefaree /s J. ta /s/ Re Je Madden, x wision Plant Ingre GE=Ss55)) ed pe

- P q Post-OrFice DEPARTMENT 4 P) BUREAU OF THE CHIEF INSPECTO! ® ~* q Lr OFFICE OF INSPECTOR Oia AA Chicago 7, Illinois case No. 56114-F e rof September 19, 1947. LAK MOLEST, ILLINOIS: Alleged violation of Section 2350, P. Le. & Re, vyfes Are Foundations sale of informa- tion ‘on@flying discs. Federal Bureau of Investigation, Washington, D. C. Gentlemen: he subject involved in case of above description is C. WAStevens, formerly of Lake Forest, Illinois, who may also have given a Chicago address at various times. Can you advise whether you have a record of this man and if so, will you please forward a copy of same to me. Sincerely yours, GN. Barhr\ fs ! s Post Office Inspector. fa: Val 4 4 ) d by PAN A. 83 <

Sere > » Coe Office Memorandum + onrrep states GOVERNMENT To + ‘DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: Septeriber\13, 1947 m FROM = AC, SEATTLE chi 5 f 7 Bs SUBJECT: ~PIYTNG DISC SIGHTED t Zen | July 29, 1947, neay’ CANYON FERRY, / tf Na (TANA, BY TRL BERMAN an Y CJ HERRMANN and R. Je | DDEN ; SECURITY MATTER - X Enclosed herewith for information of Bureau and Butte Division are , copies of the following received September 2, 1947, from H, Re PETERSON , At y/a ra Air Force, S-2, McChord Field, Washington: QEDEEE pr Aopen ae letter to Military Intelligence Division, USA, McChord Field, Wash. from Re Je MADDEN, 427 W 3rd Ave. Spokane, Wash. dated 8/8/41, with enclosure of Madden's "Report on a'Flying Saucer'." No action being taken by Seattle. yaoi, REQORDED J 5 ur wnt ¢ oes SU fF EEBshg Z ss —— En 7 / 1000-18945 , ay” , ; Enclosures - 2 / f 7/0 ja ec: Butte kg Z 1, a &: a ie HNN P €2<

- O{e- | we Siew o ‘ _ Be September 24, 1947 Mr. T. H. Barkow ope Inspector Post Office Department Chicago 7, Illinois RHOORDED ( ¢) Alleged violation of Section 2350, P. L. & - RX-8 R., by des Are Foundation; sale of information on flying disos. Reference is meade to your letter dated September 19, 1947, requesting information regarding one C, W. Stevens, your case #56114-F, You are advised that an effective search cannot be conducted through the files of the Identification Division of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on the basis of the name only. If you are able to fur- nish the physical description of Stevens or other means of identification such as a registry number, a search will be conducted in an effort to furnish you with the information desired. RHG: jb + nis / MAILED «9 \\ * SEA i pig Si von 2 ae ied 2 194% P.M. Shedd ss S Nicnote—— i | Srecy— 1 ener FINdestiaaton a } FEDER VESTIGATION . , ournex—— § } |. Harbo_————— | . 1*4& : Sinn fear oe eS) 4 F tease —— f : Be i 3 Gant ip . ry)

q@ [STANDARD FORM NO. 64 “a é Office Memorandum + ontren 8...... GOVERNMENT » e a TO : ” DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: Sept. 12,1947 fh ) y CEFROM + SAC, SEATTLE fh, 4 yyy @e f SUBJECT: FLYING DISKS Reported by eRvg(AustRONG 1 Nae Op and Te hetTCHOLS, Seattle, Washington, i WV y August 12, 1947 ya? SECURITY MATTER X Y ce The newspaper, Seattle Post Intelligencer, carried an article in the morning issue of August 13 reporting the sighting of flying disks. The article appeared on the fifth page and was headed "Blue Triangle LatestThing Seen In Disks". Under this caption there was a short writeup which stated, in substance, thet one BRUCE ARMSTRONG, an electronics technician, and e number of other en- gineers at the Boeing Aircraft hed sighted a mysterious flying object about 2:20 p.m. on August 12. The newspaper report further stated that the object seemed to be fluttering like a leaf, and appeared to be a black or dark blue triangular substance. Jn this article also appeared another report of a disk supposedly sighted by one M. f. NICHOLS, 1125 S. W. l02nd Street, Seattle, and NICHOLS des~ eribed it as a big ball reflecting light, giving it a purplish tinge. N Interview with BRUCE ARMSTRONG on August 13 revealed that ARMSTRONG was standing in front of Section D of the Boeing Aircraft Plant with about ten other research engineers and had noticed a small black object flying about 200 feet high, going south over Boeing Field runway. ARMSTRONG further stated, upon interview, that the object appeared triangular in shape and floated in the air like a leaf, and he estimated the speed to be about fifteen miles per hour. ARMSTRONG could not accuretely determine the distance between him and the object but it is noted that Section D is about half a mile from the opposite side of J Boeing Field where he supposedly had sighted it. nce : The following other research enginters were also interviewed regarding this object; Mr. JOHN H. STONER ‘ > G Mr. GEORGE H. STONER Ip RECORDED J V6 * Mr. BEN HAGER ist e / \ P Mir. LEROY PERKINS 4 INDEXED 4 : eo Mr. DAN HAGE §4.2 —Ac4 7 ZL iad i 4 { Za -s i The consensus of opinion of these men was that the object resembled 2 Bick Year e in flight and looked more like a piece of tar paper than anythinglCTWHelicttie object reached the end of the runway in Boeing Field it climbed into the sky in a south westerly direction and bie cm Mr. KEN GRANT, opbybbor of the control tower for the Northwest Airlines was then contacted. Mr. GRANT stated that he reviews 211 reports of objects seen in the vicinity of the field and makes a log of such. Mr. GRANT reviewed his log but could not s6gpeny record of such an item, but upon contact with Mr. VAUGHN LOCKWOOD, who was ‘on’ duty at the time the object was supposedly sighted, the following infoggeifion wee obtained: LOCKWOOD stated that about 2 o'clock in the y 14 ‘ A - \n, I aa ha \PoPrIES DESTROYED ' { He q #70 Novis 1964 1.) j

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; e é “ DIRECTOR, FBI FLYING DISKS, Report of 8/26/1,7 afternoon there were several pieces of burnt paper which flew over the field, and he did recall a large piece of burnt paper which the wind had blown across the runway and down the south end of the field. LOCKWOOD estimated that the paper was approximately three feet in length. Mr. GRANT stated that undoubtedly this was the object in question, and inasmuch as the control tower has a complete view of the area in which the engineers had sighted this object if anything fur- ther was noted it would have appeared in the log. Mr. M. A. NICHOLS, 1119 Ss. W. 102nd Street, was then interviewed regard- ing his report of a flying object. NICHOLS stated that about 4 p.m. on August 12 he had sighted an object which he estimated to be about 35,000 feet in the air, which was flying over his home in a southwest direction. A neighbor, RAY STANLEY, also saw the object and STANLEY examined the same with a pair of binoculars. According to STANLEY the object looked like a white dock moving, cylindrical in shape, end reflected the light of the sun with a sort of purplish tinge. Other witnesses who hed seen the object at this time were a Mr. and Mrs. GEORGE KROGSTADT, of 1113 S. W. 102nd Street, Seattle, and their version of the object corresponded with that of NICHOLS and STANLEY. Contact with Mr. THOMAS E. GERMAIN, of the Seattle Weather Bureau Office at Boeing Field, revealed that weather balloons are released every six hours from his field commencing at 1:30 a.m. The balloons, according to Mr. GERMAIN, are of a white gum color and reflect the light of the sun at a high altitude. Although Mr. GERMAIN could not understand why a balloon could have been sighted at 4 pem., he nevertheless was certain that, from the description of the object seen by these people, it must have been either one of his balloons or one released from some other area in the vicinity. No further investigation is being conducted in this matter by this office. JIS: JG 62-

hi Faw 4 Sederal Bureay of Investigation ay Be eas?’ United States Department of Justice | ars: _ ee 422 = Federal Office Building, Civic Center } ) by —— D e » \ IN Rabi wickoee ta San Francisco 2, California mS ; September 19, 1947 Fino } j JPirector, FBI Attention: Assistant Director D. M. LADD \ YY FE: ‘REPORTS OF FLYING DIScs oy . Dear Sire I am transmitting herewith copies of a "restricted" letter aN i September 3, 1947, which was furnished to me by Lieutenant Colonel DOWALD L. SPRINGER, A-2, Army Air Forces, Hamilton Field, California, which letter is designated to certain Commanding Generals in the Army Air Forces from Colonel Re. H. SMITH, Assistant Chief of Staff - Intelligence, Headquarters Air Defense Command, Mitchel Field, New York, concerning "Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigations of ‘Flying Disct Incidents", I¢ is my understanding from recent Bureau instructions that we are ] to assist the Air Force Intelligence personnel in the investigation of flying disc incidents. However, it will be noted from the attached letter that it { is Army interpretation that it was their intent that the Bureau would investi- gate those incidents of the so-called “discs” being found on the ground and f apparently not those which are observed only in flight. Further, the atten- tion of the Bureau is respectfully called to paragraph two of this letter and to the last sentence therein which states, "The services of the FBI were enlisted in order to relieve the numbered Air Forces of the task of tracking | down ell the many instances which turned out to_be ash can covers, toilet . seats and whatnote" In the first place, the instructions issued by the Army Air Forces in this letter appear to limit the type of investigations which the Bureau will be asked to handle and secondly it appears to me the wording of the last sentence in the second paragraph mentioned above is cloaked in entirely uncalled for language tending to indicate the Bureau will be asked to Sonauey investigations only in those cases which are not important and which are We i almost, in fact, ridiculous. ais The thought has occurred to me the Bureau might ‘desire to discuss this matter further with the Army Air Forces both as to the types of investi- | gations which we will conduct and also to object to the scurrilous wordage i which, to say the least, is insulting to'thé Bureau in the last sentence of paragraph twoe - ya , /: g sf Recon, GAS B27 4A DE ; & ne ADE = e ¥ ) 8 “a v shit , | .) { t |! ‘ G ws Rout »/ ak VA] IG) :

Director, FBI 9/19/47 RE: REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS In the event the Bureau decides to discuss the matter further with the Army Air Forces, it is recommended that no indication whatsoever be given indicating this letter was referred to me by Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER inasmuch as it would undoubtedly cause him serious embarrassment and would certainly cause the excellent personal relationship which exists between Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER and this office to be endangered. Very truly yours, ENG gent in Charge HMK smhr 62-2938

; wt r§ . 4 3 CRE hated HEADQUARTERS AIR DEFENSE COMMAND Mitchel Field, New York In reply refer tor D333 .5EX 3 September 1947 SUBJECT: Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigations of "Flying Disc" Incidents. TOs Commanding Genrals, First, Second, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh and Fourteenth Air Forces ATTENTION: Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2 4 1. The Federal bureau of Investigation has agreed to assist Air Force Intelligence personnel in the investi gation of "flying disc” incidents in order to quickly and effectively rule out what are pranks and to concentrate on what appears to be a genuine incident. 26 It was the original intent of the AC/AS=2, Headquarters, Army Air Forces that whereas the ADC Air Forces would interview respon- sible observers whose names would be furnished by AAF, the FBI would investigate incidents of so called "discs" being found on the grourd. The services of the FBI were enlisted in order to relieve the numbered Air Forces of the task of tracking down all the many instances which turned out to be ash can covers, toilet seats and whatnot, 3. It is requested that each A-2 informally coordinate and cooperate with the FBI, generally keeping the FBI informed of any proposed calls that intelligence personnel] will make on this subject. Very shortly, with the separation of the AAF from the War Department, a firm policy will be established to clarify the liaison arrangements between A-2's and FBI “pecial Agents. Presently, it is considered inadvisable to promulgate a formal interim policy <= only to have it replaced in a month or so by anothers BY COMMAND OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL STRATEMEYERs /s/ Re He SMITH R. He SMITH Colonel, GSC * ne Asst Chief of Staff-Intell. | AL “ = Fe / gt pa /

* A i LZ (oer, DISCS --Effective inmediately, the Bureau has discontinued its investi- ~ gative activities as outlined in Section B of Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, | dated July 30, 1947, All future reports connected with flying dises should be referred to ) the Air Forces and no investigative action should be taken by Bureau Agents, ys v. 23 me oO 3 t i LOORDHD ‘alk 63 oct 6 197 2 9g Pa RS Ns ide ro) \ 5BAVLI e

STANDARD Fe Office MLCmoranaum + UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : Director, FBI DATE: September 27, 1947 4 yy VAMP Tac, Butte SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS SIGHTED MAY 5, 1947, BETWEEN ELLENSBURG AND SEATTLE, WASHINGTON Warden JOM HENRY, Montana State Prison, Deer Lodge, Montana, has advised the writer that while driving between Ellensburg end Seattle, Washing- ton, about 3:30 P.M.e, on May 5, 1947, he sighted a silver object streaking across the sky. This was also seen by MELBOURNE MeHILL, convict chauffeur, and Mrs, HENRY, This object went into a nose dive and they thought it would erash, However, before reaching the earth it disintegrated, leaving a long pillar of “gas" hanging in the sky. It was particularly odd because this re- mained in form and did not blow away. It was observed by these three people while they drove from twenty to thirty miles, \ Sern ee This smoky, gaseous pillar was a long ways off-ant Yomained high /\y,— in the sir, Warden HENRY said that this silver object was traveling at an //’ excessively high rate of speed and when it disintegrated it was still a long wey from the earth. Warden HENRY said when he first saw it he thought it was probably a jet propelled plane but that he couldn't tell except that its mo- tions were erratic. He said he had not reported it until he had noticed so much in the papers about these discs, Although thres people saw it, they de- cided that they mst be "seeing things". The Seattle Office is requested to advise Mr. H. R. PETERSON, 4th Air Force, S-2, McChord Field, Washington, No further action is being taken by the Butte Office due to the time elapsing betwoen the sighting of this object and the report. jem uF a : WGB:LB : / hT 2 1 ce ee co = Seattle a A 49/4 Uy : ea 77) Ye Aa en a eh, 5 / ay “HTM? rae NDEXED ) U WY 41 g :

Office Memardndum >. oxrrib STATPY GOVERNMENT TQ Sew. Lape DATE: Ootober sama. SUBJECT “FLYING DISCs ee fhere are attached hereto, photographs of various reports isles oo received by the Air Corps in connection with the above-captioned matter, — i CTR Mee) Aeant ¢ faymalds ef oy oP the Ti@ison Section by Lieutenant Colonel Kel. Garrett of the Intelligence \. * E 5 | Vivision of the Air Force for completion of Bureau files, | | RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended that this memorandum be made | available to Supervisor Re G. Fletcher of the Internal Security Section for | his information. | | | - ¢ | f Sct hor , 6. , re i/ ie | |

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