65_HS1-834228961_62-HQ-83894_Section_2
Agency: FBI

The FBI's 62-HQ-83894 case file includes investigative records, eyewitness testimonies, and public reports concerning Unidentified Flying Objects and flying discs documented between June 1947 and July 1968. The records include high-profile incident accounts, photographic evidence from sites like Oak Ridge, TN, and technical proposals regarding potential propulsion systems. Additional topics include convention programs, researcher accounts, and extensive media coverage from the period.  This file is partially posted on FBI vault with more redactions and some pages missing.  Included here is the complete case file with several newly declassified pages and only minor redactions.

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| Tomm.... Office Memorandum + on. oTATES GO pA TO : ) Director, FBI - Attention; Assistant DATE: Aug 85 1947 vA Director D. M. LADD } FROM |x SAC, San Francisco sean? 1” susyect™ \/PLYING Discs p rene is made to my letter to the Bureau dated July 28, 1947 | _ entitled as above forwarding a copy of a report furnished to me by Lieutenant | ‘\ Colonel DONALD SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, set- j i ting forth the results of inquiries made by his office concerning the reported 1 y ieee of flying discs. | As of further interest to the Bureau in this regard, snorf ALT. /d mitted herewith photostatic copies of three letters dated August 4, 1947 % | entitled "Investigation of Flying Discs," furnished to me by Major WILLIAM R. ‘ GRAHAM, Deputy AC of S, A-2, Army Air Forces, Hamilton Field, California, who is i; acting in the absence of Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER, enclosing copies of reports of additional reported sightings of flying dises by persons in Oregon and Arizona, _ q together with the results of their investigations in that regard. ] It is noted that these investigations were conducted prior to the time Bureau instructions were issued that our own Bureau would conduct inquiries into the reported sightings of flying discs. ie > i Copies of these reports are being forwarded to 6 Portl 4 Phoenix Offices for the completion of their files in connection with this subject. HMK semb , Enclosures - 3 ce Portland (with enclosures - 3) Phoenix (with enclosures - 3) de so” 1(, Lot ij Moet « EN Sie ome ON a5 t 7g) § - ES Wis RR e i at] (a aes - c 94 4 (4) , aoa ; of Ne : pay 5

i Office Memorandum + ontreD sTATES GOVERNMENT To * : DIRECTOR; FBI DATE: August 13, 1947 ) A ; ~Yedow : SAGS NEWARK SUBJECT: FLYING DISC REPORTED AT HACKENSACK, NEW JERSEY AUGUST 3, 1947 - MISCELLANEOUS ' Reference is made to tne teletype from the Newark Division to the Bureau dated August 4, 1947 stating tnat a "Flying Disc" had been reported to hi been seen at Hackens: { New Jersey on August 3 last by one CHARLES)GASELIA, JR. and WILLIAMKTRUEX. CHARLES CASELIA, JR., 287 Euclid Avenue, Hackensack, upon interview by Special Agent ARTHUR F. WILLIAMS of this Division, stated that on August 3 he had been standing with WILLIAM TRUEX, a soldier stationed at Fort Dix, observing a "ham" radio rig atop a two-story house on Simons Avenue, Hackensack. It was approximately 7:45 p.m, and they were in this vicinity for the purpose of meeting TRUEX's girlfriend, one JOYCE Me FAXLAND. TRUEX commented to CASELIA that a child had apparently lost its balloon. CASELLA looked and about a biock or a halt block away noticed a round, black object moving from south to north and east of the stop where he and TRUEX were standing. CASELIA noticed that it was moving too fast to be an ordinary balloon, but he could not discern whether it was globular in form or a disc. He said it was about thirty to forty inches in diameter moving north in a hori- zontal plane about two hundred yards above the top of the hill at Summit Avenue and Simons Avenue. It proceeded at a steady rate, emitted no rays, and was moving fast enougn to require them to turn their heads steadily in order to follow it. ‘TRUEX's girlfriend came out about fifteen seconds after they first sighted it. They pointed it out to her, and she said that it looked like a bird on tne horizon so small. It faded out of sight shortly thereafter. CASELLA said that a line drawn along its apparent course of flight would go from the vicinity of Bendix, New Jersey to a point west of Westwood, New Jersey. CASELLA also said that a man on the porch across tne street also noticed it and pointed it out to tne women. CASELIA said that this man seemed excited but did nothing about it. CASELLA said tnav he was positive it was no optical illusion. He was not facing into the sun and saw the object clearly. He also said tnat he would have thought nothing of it except for the speed at which it was traveling, q Rpcorpap SH}. AFWsEMC d 2 O47 as g /% Oy COPIES DESTROTED ¥ : 270 NOV 18 1904 p

x “ Letter to Bureau August 13, 1947 Miss JOYCE Mc FARLAND, 476 Simons Avenue, upon interview by Special Agent WILLIAMS, stated that the event in question occurred at about 7:30 on tne evening of Sunday, August 3. She said that she was in the house when CASELLA or TRUEX called to her. She went out immediately, and they pointed out the object in question. She saw it just before it disappeared over tne horizon, but she declared that it was in view from that time for approximately one minute. She said it was round and silver-blue in color and appeared to be revolving. She said that she did not recall making any comment that it might have been a bird and herself had no idea of wnat it could be. In view of tne distance from which she noticed it, she said tnat it could not have been more than six inches in diameter but would have been much larger it she had been near to it. Miss Mc FAKLAND said that sne had never seen anything like it before. She said that across tne street the BOOTHS, mother and daughter, were the only people sitting on tne porcn and she, herself, did not notice anyone pointing toward the opject in question. ‘The only other person around, to her knowledge, was GLORIA TRUEX, sister of WILLIAM TRUEX, wno remained in the house and did not see the object at all. Mrs. WINFIELD S. BOOTH, 459 Simons Avenue, stated that she was on the porch on the evening in question with her mother but did not notice any unusual object in the sky nor had any man been present there to point out the opject in question. The following information was received from TRUEX through interview by Special Agent T. HOWARD WALDRON: Private WILLIAM A. TRUEX, RA 12282003, Company G, 2nd Bat- talion, 47tn Infantry Regiment, 9th Division, Fort Dix, New Jersey, advised he was born April 12, 1930 at Jersey City, New Jersey and completed eight and one nalf years of school. He enlisted in the United States Army on May 29, 1947. His mother is Mrs. GRACE FIELDS of 88 Wales Avenue, River Edge, Bergen County, New Jersey. TRUKX stated that on Sunday, August 3, 1947, at 8:00 p.m., he was standing outside the home of his girlfriend, Miss JOYCE Mc FARLAND, 4/8 Simons Avenue, Hackensack, New Jersey, accompanied by CHARLES CASELLA of 287 Euclid Avenue, Hackensack, New Jersey, who is his sister's fiance. He said tnat he and CASELLA were looking at the radio antenna on a home near the 478 Simons Avenue address wnen they noticed an object sive

5 > sD : Letter to Bureau August 13, 1947 - S about two to three feet in diameter moving rapidly about two hundred yards off tne ground. TRUEX said he thought at first it was a child's balloon, but when he noticed there was no wind and the object had no strings to it, ne decided it was sometning else. He stated tne object was moving in a steady, straight patn, going nortn, and he said there was no exhaust or indication of any motive power for the object. TRUEX said they observed tne object for fifteen or twenty seconds. He could not give a description of tne object's color or the materiai it was composed of but said it looked more like a large, flat child's cup than anything else he could think of, as the object was oval on the top and came to a point on the bottom side. MTRUEX said tnat CASELLA stated "Maybe it's a flying saucer". He said he had never seen any- thing move through the air quite like this object, and he had no idea where it came from. ‘ TRUEX stated that neither he nor CASELIA had had anything to drink, and there was sutficient light for them to observe tne object very clearly. The "Flying Disc" was reported by CASELLA to Sergeant JAMES PERONE of the Hackensack Police Department. Sergeant PERONE advised the writer that his Department had taken no further action nor had they received reports of the object in question from any other source. It may be noted that no other Police Department in the vicinity has brought to tne attention of this Division any information regarding this matter. RS

; Wa ae q 5 ei nies : AP eset ©. 8. DEPARTRERT OF 1USTICE nse fea | 2 ComnnnicaTions SECTION vA) LOM nr. Lad AUG 1947 er | ox. Rosen iis } | Mr. Tracy FBI DETROIT 8-5-7 5-08 PM EST JOH i) a DIRECTOR, FBI URGENT [yeifcion Tamm. UNSUBS, RAYMOND EDWARD/LAND, MRS. LAURSXLANE, INFORMATNTS, FLING. } DISC, MISC. INFO RECEIVED FROM DOW. CHEMICAL COMPANY, MIDLANDs——§-A4-7, MICHIGAN, THAT ON JULY TEN LAST RAYMOND EDWARD LANE AN EMPLOYEE er ee ee LEe, bh OF DOW AND SUBSIDIARY SINCE ABOUT NINETEEN TWENTY TWO, BROGUPH SOME LM MATERIAL TO THEIR PHYSICS LABORATORY STATING THAT ABOUT FIVE er PM JULY NINE LAST HE AND WIFE, LAURA LANE, WERE WALKING IN A FIELD , OWNED BY DOW AND ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET AWAY HEARD A PUFF NOISE, TURNED AND SAW A BALL OF WHITE ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BUSHEL BAKET BURNING ABOUT A FOOT OFF THE GROUND. THE FIRE DIED OUT IMMEDIATELY AND LANE LATES SCOOPED UP A THREE INCH AREA OF FUSED SAND INTO A CAN AND TOOK THIS. TO > THE PHYSICS -LAB. BoTH! eomPLAINANTS INTERVIEWED. RAYMOND TELLING SUB- STANTIALLY SAME STORY BUT WIFE RELUCTANT TO TALK AND VERY INDEFINITE ON WHAT HAPPENED. THERE ARE MAKRED DISCREPANCIES IN THEIR STORY. DOW AUTHORITIES: ‘CONSEDERED STORY FANTASTIC BUT HAVE EXAMINED MATERIAL AND STATE CONTENTS {T0"BE, ORDINARY SAND, NOT RADIO ACTIVE , BUT GIVING RECORD OFF AMMONIA GASyiA ‘SMALL SILVER NUGGET)ALMOT 2 EXSEET FOR SAND Ses su Sah i Ow ie MISED IN IT NOT RADIO ACTIVE, MELTED S&F Gin AND RA ihre OF? ohm oh B > AMMONIA ODOR, AND LITTLE DROPLETS OF SILVER MEWERDyEN,SAND AND SOME | ore GRAYISH COLOR IN MATERIAL WHICH IS RADIO a LEVEL OF PA RADIO ACTIVITY’ EXTREMELY LOW AND EMPLOYEE i MPLOYED BY GOVERN- MET AT LOS ALAMOS PRRJECT STATES FUSED SAND RAS SOME CHARACTERISIC io) Ww 7 : . 5 ;

PACE TWO OF LOS ALAMOS SAND BUT NOT BELIEVED TO BE THE SAME. RAYMOND LAND KNOWN TO HAVE IN HIS POSSESSION SMALL QUANTITY OF LUMINOUS PAINT, RADIO ACTIVE, TO BE AN AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHER, TO HAVE LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF CHEMISTRY AND PHYSICS FROM EMPLOYMENT AT DOW. LAND DESCRIBED AS VERY PECULIAR, SURELY, ANTAGONISTIC TO PLANT PROTECTION OFFICERS, INTERESTED IN PHOTOGRAPHY AND ELECTRICITY. LANE IS WHITE, BORN MAY SEVEN, NINETEEN NAUGHT TWO, AT FREESOIL, MICHIGAN, FIVE FEET NINE AND ONE HALF, ONE HUNDRED FORTY FIVE POUNDS, DARK BROWN HAIR, PARTLY BALD, SERVED US ARMY NINETEEN EIGHTEEN TO NINETEEN TWENTY THREE, CONVICTED NINETEEN TWENTY FOUR MIDLAND COUNTY, MICHIGAN, FOR BURGLARY, SERVING SIXTY DAY SENTENCE. NEITHER PARTY ADMITS STORY IS A PRANK, BUT LANE HAS MENTIONED FLYING DISCS AND ROCKETS. ON INTERVIEW LANE WAS RELUCTANT TO DISCUSS MATTER AND NEITHER HE NOR HIS WIFE ARE ABLE TO LOCATE THE EXACT LOCATION WHERE MATERIAL WAS FOUND. ARMY AIR FORCES INTELLIGENCE AT SELFRIDGE FIELD, MICHIGAN, j HAVE BEEN ADVISED. SUTEL IF BUREAU DESIRES | MATERIAL FORWARDED TO_FBI LABORATORY FOR EXAMINATION. O-CONNOR CORRECTION LINE ONE WORD FOUR SHOULD RAXXX READ = LANE END 6-16 PM OK FBI WASH DC WJR Canea Laboratory

STANDARD FORM NO. G4 nee i Office Memorandum + owirep statis GOVERNMENT To : Mr. Leda DATE: August 8, 19h7 SUBJECT: UNKNOWN ponies if —— = Raymond Edwar: Cy ae Bean yp Mrs. Laura/Tane - Informants; eae = FLYING DISC ie too) MISCELLANEOUS Wi Fis -_—— d 7 There is attached a memorandum setting forth the pertinent information received by the Detroit Office from Raymond Edward Lene and Mra, Laura Lane relative to "flying discs." RECOMMENDATION : V4 It is recommended that this material be personally delivered by / - 7 the Liaison Section to the appropriate contact in the War Department. / i= Y 2 j Attachment | , be ws) a Boe 7/ aS. RGF :MAW:EW Madiue® ts Ae a Mey ey, ~ y Z

a eae G ‘ ys nd ow Migust 8, 1947 FLYING Discs Physics laboratory. le stated th abo 5315 pem, dul Ds 5 send into a can for examination at their laboratory, Upon interview by FBI Agents, Raymond tol subst: lly t sam the miterial and state conterts are:. ordinary Sand, hot radio active; but ziving off ammonia gas3 a small silver mugret almost po re except for sand mixed i t, not radio active; melted or fused san whic ives off ammonia odor and Littl roplets © silver melted in sand and some grayish color is extremly low. An employee of Dow, formerly employed by the Government. at taytond Lane is lmown to have in his possession a small quantity of luminous paint, radio ac tive, to be an amateur photographer and to have a Limited knowledge of chemistry and physics, He is described as. very peculiar, surly, antagonistic to plant protection officers and interested in ph otography and electricity. Lane is white, was. born May 7, 1902, at Freesoil, Michigan, He is 5° 95", weighs 145 pounds, has dark brown hair, partly bald, served in the U.S. Army from 1918 to 1923. He was arrested for tur zlary in Midland Co nby, pene The Army Airforce Intelligence at Selfridge Fi eld, Michigan, has been porised and the material has been tumed over to then. i _- RGF smae fan — f { SPs ‘

COMMUNICATIONS SECTION Vb OR: AUG 81947 |: f Y et el ie Y ms CGO. 8-8-47 soo pm! ‘RLS Alan "URGENT*" ae FLYING DISC SIGHTED BY MRS; ROBERFAEITTLE, SECURITY MATER X. a) CHICAGO HERALD AMERICAN TODAY REPORTED THAT LITTLE OF SIX THREE TWO SEVEN HARPER AVENUE CHICAGO REPORTED SEEING A DISC THREE THIRTY AM TODAY SAILING ABOVE LAKE MICHIGAN OFF JACKSON PARK BEACH, LITTLE UNAVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEW TODAY. FATHER IN LAW JOSEPH REINER, SIX THREE TWO SEVEN HARPER AVENUE, ADVISED LITTLE SIGHTED DISC OVER A MONTH AGO AND SHE 1S EIGHTEEN YEARS OF AGE. NO FURTHER INQUIRY . CONTEMPLATED. ae 8 5p MC SWAIN TNpEexED & 4 BORRREKKON { ae END ACK! : GIR 3 5

[STANDARD FORM NO. 64 q | -— © oe Office Me UM +» UNITED § OVERNMENT re * “Mee EWI) ‘ Eo : D, Me LADE DATE: 7/21/47 urs Tolson_) FROM : E, Ge Fitch in ae J 2 Mote se General, 32d AAF Base Unit, Bolling Field, Washington, D, C., from John fse indler, drs, 2 copy of which is attached to this memorandum, ‘the attached meme randum sets "forth information and statistics regarding two reportings of incidents of flying feaecording to this map the incidents reported in the attached memorandum are in the R genera] vicinity of Lily Lake, which was given as the address of Mr, Richard F. “of the flying saucers was made.on July 7th and the date of the unsigned telegram “is July 5th, together with the proximity of Lily Lake to the points where the . Objects were observed, he desired the Bureau conduct some investigation of Shaver j to determine whether or not he has any information pertaining to the origin of the RECOMMENDA TION : > to the Liaison Section. for delivery to the Intelligence Division of the Wer Depart= mente * : 457 } Ate G hes See, a

3 hte ie r 4 ll SAC, Chicago August &, 1947 / Director, FBI y FLYING DIS¢s g kké The War Department has furnished this Bureau with the félZewing, - ie Y telegram dated duly 5 at New York, New Yorks x Ace 3 x "FOR FURTHER DETAILS CONCERNING FLYING DISKS SUGGEST IMMEDIATE CONTACT OF MR. RICHARD F, SHAVER LILY LAKE ILLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION CONCERN- ING THEIR ORIGIN," The War Department has furnished a memorandum entitled "Report on Flying Saucers", dated duly 7, 1947, addressed to Commanding General, 32d AAF Base Unit, Bolling Field, Washington, D. ¢., from John D. Schindler, Jrs, two copies of which are attached. The War Department has stated that the incidents referred to in the attached memorandum are in the general vicinity of Iily Lake, which was given as the address of Richard F. Shaver in the above telegram. It is, therefore, desired that the Chicago Field Division conduct appropriate inquiries regarding Shaver, and in the event such inquiries do not reveal information indicating that he ‘should not be interviewed, he should be interrogated for any information he might have relative to flying discs. It is desired that this matter be handled as soon as possibile and the Bureau promptly advised. Enclosure\ ~ eee ‘ Mr! Clegg" — | we er. Glavig———— ¢ } hes Ladd ——— a | Mr. NichoIs_——— * wee J Mr Rosen —. Me Quenga—— Met Harte, Mr. Yonr ————— Mrs Penuitngton— . ; Mr. Quinn Tamm —— | ) Tele. Room —— hts ur. iiease. ZIWLY Ce Kets

Arey ¢ ae @ Offizg Memoranaum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT | To 7, BBE patz: 16 July 47 From ;: WDGS, US BRANCH y SUBJECT: RICHARD F. SHAVER ; \ 1, Attached hereto: a. Copy of unsigned telegram received by HQ. AAF 9 July 1947,in which fy it is indicated that Richard FoShavera Lilly Lake, Illinois may have in- A formation concerning the origin of the“"flying saucers". b, Copy of a report on flying saucers which were observed by four witnesses while in flight in two airplanes over southern Wisconsin. c. Map with indications as to proximity of the locations where the flying saucers were reported to have been seen in relation to Lily Lake,I11. that the time 2. In view of the fact/the observation of the flying saucers was made corresponds closely with the date of the unsigned telegram, and considering the proximity of Lily Lake to the points where the objects were observed, . it is requested that Mr Shavexbe investigated to determine whether or not a F he has information pertaining to the origin of Flying Saucers. De RR, ] - | Y Ke S RECORD: eS “7 tt Of ae tfth,» > Wiper lez cell al w/ ‘ mM. y »Jos/¥7 RIX Wie z my / /

q gan NL PD NEWYORK NY JUL 5 MAJOR Pat AYNOR AAF HQTS WASHDC FOR FURTHER DETAILS CONCERNING FLYING DISKS SUGGEST IMMEDIATE CONTACT OF MR. RICHARD F SHAVER LILY LAKE ILLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION CONCERNING THEIR ORIGIN UNSIGNED 651P.

at * . — 4 7 duly 1947 SUBJECT: Report on Flying Saucers. BO: Commanding General 32a AAP Base Unit Bolling Field Washington, D. co, i. Followingere statistics regarding reports by four witnesses while in flight in two airplanes. 2. Weather CAV. Visibility exeeptionally good. Seat- tered altocumlus 6000 fest. 3e Firet reportstime 1145 hours CS?. Alt. of observers 800 feet above the ground. Altitude of sauser 4000 febt Si. Obdservedeperiod - First sighted over Keshkonong, Wisconsine Flight was observed from town of Koshkonogg te Zikhorn, Wisconsin. This flight covered twenty-five ( uiles in fifteen (15) seconds, which is a speed of six thougand ( ) miles per hour. Ye Second reports Pine 130 hours CS%. Altitude of observers thirty-five hundred feet (3500) MSL. Altitude of saucer twenty-five lundred feet (2500). Observation period. Observers at Hast Froy, Wisconsin, flight observed from Ragle, Wisconsin te Muskego, Wisconsin. This flight covered twenty-two (22) miles in twenty (20 seconds, which is a speed of three thousand nine hmdred sixty (3960) miles per hour. 5e Flight maneuvers: First observaticn~saucer descended vertically edgewise through altocumlus clouds, stopped at four thousand (11000) feet and agsumed horizontal position and proceeded in horizontal flight from a horizontal position for fifteen (15) seconds covering twenty- five (25) miles and again stopped and disagpeared. § econi observation: Observed in horizontal flight in a horizontal attitude for « period of twenty (20) seconds covering twenty-two (22) miles. By the time the pilot had removed his camera from the glove compartment of his plane, the saucer disappeared and again = gown approximately ten (10) miles farther along its couree after six (6) seconds making its final dis- appearances 6. fhe first two observers were an instructor and a student, having just taken off from Mkhorn Airport. fhe second two observers, one being Cap't. Re J. Southey: Wing Supply Officer and a passenger. (ENCLOSURE Sohn D. Schindler, Jr. Maj. Air doxps, AAF-GAP & faison Officer,

i } e GUREAU OF INVESTIGATION .) | | e e' . DEPARTMENT OF 1UBTICR ees aa ‘ P, GOMMUNIGATIONS SECTION I Nr'Glavin | te) ices AUG 6 1947 ae oe +f FBI SEATTLE 8-647 7-13 PM PST a arr piniag Qe DIRECTOR FBI URGENT we Ciiyine_piscs, Se Me = Xe RETEL PORTLAND To DIRECTOR , SAM FRANCISCO; AND SEATTLE AUGUST FIVE LAST. INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS MCCORD FIELD, WN., ADVISE THAT IN THEIR @M&MH OPINION AND FROM THEIR INVESTIGATION THERE IS NO QUESTION OF THE CRASH OF THE B- TWENTYFIVE AT KELSO, WN. WRN APPROXIMATELY TWO FIFTY A. M. , AUGUST ONE LAST HAVING BEEN CAUSED BY ANY SABOTAGE. THEY STATE THEIR INVESTIGATION INDICATES THE LEFT ENGINE BURNED OUT AN EXHAUST STACK WHICH CAUSED THE WING TO BURN AND BREAK OFF. THE LEFT WING AS IT BRM BROKE OFF TORE OFF THE TAIL AND THE PLANE CRASHED INTO THE GROUND KILLING CAPT. DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS OF THE FOURTH AIR FORCE WHO WERE RETURNING FROM MCCORD FIELD, WN., TO HAMILTON FIELD, CALIF@ORNIA. THE CREW CHIEF AND A HITCHHIKER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY FROM THE PLANE. ONLY FOUR MEMBERS WERE ABOARD THE PLANE, DAVIDSON AND BROWN BEING PILOT AND CO- PILOT AND HAD NO CHANCE To ESCAPE WHEN THE WING BROKE OFF. LT. COL. DONALD Ly SPRINGER, A~ TWO AMORBGWRAOFF{CER roy THE FOURTH ALR a HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFORNIA, ADVISED THARGAPSAEN DAWEDssoN asin WERE SENT FROM HAMILTON FIELD To INTERVIEW WaroLp! Alebaa AND FRED MGRISMAN AT TACOMA, WN., REGARDING THEIR REPORT OF /SEE®ING SOME FLYING DISCS OVER MAURY ISLAND, WN., AND THAT rieygprtnen SOME OF THE DISC FRAGMENTS. CRISMAN AND DAHL ARE PARTNERS-IN A LUMBDER BUSINEBS® AT Tacoma, wakunerows ©! > hoe gael hia:

ep ANE , ; ” PAGE TWO CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN ON THURSDAY, JULY (RNB THIRTYFIRST LAST INTERVIEWED DAHL, CRISMAN, KENNETHYARNOLD, FROM BOISE, IDAHO, WHO WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THAT REPORTED SEENING FLYING DISCS AND EMIL Hg"SMITH, UNITED AIRLINES PBLOT FROM SEATTBU, WN., WHO ALSO REPORTED SEEING FLYING DISCS. THIS INTERVIEW TOOK PLACE AT THE WaRRR WINTHROP HOTEL ON THE AFTERNOON OF JULY (MMMM THIRTYFIRST LAST. CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN WERE RETURNING TO HAMILTON FIELD FOR AIRFORCE DAY AND HAD WITH THEM SOME OF THE DISC FRAGMENTS AS REPORTED BY DAHL AND CRISMANe a REPORTER PAULL LANTZ OF TACOMA TIMES, AND UNITED PRESS WIREMAN TEDAMORELLO OF TACOMA, RECEIVED ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS JULY THIRTYFIRST AND AUGUST FIRST LAST REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP HOTEL OMER THE DISCS FRAGMENTS AND THAT THE B= TWENTYFIVE WHICH CRASHED THE MORNING OF Ami AUGUST ONE WAS @™® SABOTAGED OR SHOT DOWN. INFORMATION AS YET NOT VERIFIED INDICATED THE ENTIRE STORY STARTED BY DAHL AND CRISMAN POSSIBLY TO PROMOTE SALE OF SLAG FOUND IN A GRAVEL PIT ON MAURY ISLAND, WN. NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE AS YET AS TO THE IDENTITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL TO THE TACOMA TIMES AND THE UNITED PRESS, DAHL AND CRISMAN WILL BE INTER- VIEWED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. INVESTIGATION CONTINUING. WILCox END = 11-33 PM OK FBI WA GH Sonal,

: PA’ ce = 150 NITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE August 14, 1947 TO: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION, SAC, Seattle u R 3 5 N t Transmit the following message. to: REURTEL AUGUST TWELVE. IT IS NOTED FROM INTERROGATION OF EMLDYSMITH, SMITH CLAIMS THAT DURING THE CONFERENCE ON JULY THIRTY ONE THAT) DAHL ANDYCHRISMAN APPARENTLY REPEATED THEIR FALSE STORY ABOUT THE MATERIAL BEING FRAGMENTS OF A FLYING DISC AND ONLY ON SATURDAY NIGHT AUGUST \ SECOND DID DAHL ADMIT THAT THE STORY WAS A HOAX. IF SUCH IS THE CASE : IT WOULD APPEAR EITHER SMITH Of eeRNOLD MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS SINCE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION AT THAT TIME THAT THE MATERIAL FURNISHED TO CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROWN WAS ACTUALLY \ PARTS OF A FLYING DISC. IT WOULD ALSO. APFEAR THAT DAHL AND CHRISMAN DID NOT ADMIT THE HOAX TO THE ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS BECAUSE IF THEY HAD DONE SO THE OFFICERS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THE ALLEGED FRAGMENTS WITH THEM ON THEIR FATAL FLIGHT. THIS MATTER SHOULD BES CLEARED UP UPON REINTERVIEW WITH DAHL AND CHRISMAN. WHEN THIS POINT CLARIFIED NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION NECESSARY. HOOVER RGFsmjp : Sarre

s p . a ide August 1, 1917 Mrs. Arthur Douglass Anderson 16 Medbury Road z Springhaven, Chester, Dempeyiyente 4@y0,, - “Oger Dear Mrs. Anderson: | : X 34 This will acknowledge receipt of your letter dated Suly 9, 1947. After a careful review of the contents of this letter it was ascertained that the inforsation contained therein wdéaid probably be of interest to the War Department, therefore, J have taken the liberty of furnishing this information to that agency. Your interest in writing as you did is indeed appreatated. é Sincerely yours, er head —— . John Bdgar Hooyer i it Gerson ? Director LW ( { Ni Py PT files concerning the writer of this letter.) This letter referred to "flying saucers."

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“ COUNTY IRRITANT : from our Mail Box Calling for Decoders Bellmore—About nine at night on July 4th I received the follows ing shortwave message in code, origin unknown, I kept listening, and about an hour later the mes. Sage was repeated letter for letter, I can’t figure out what it means, but here it is: DITER FO NUHMA SOESNENN TWON LATWA MOTCIA WRA RUSPIDGNIT DREOR LASOR STEYMS SO STEN YLFNIG SKIDS DAN WLIL EST UP WLORD DREOR NERUD TIR- MANAS TEAL HIST ARYR, —Radio Ham. (Neither can we, but we hope it's legal.—Ed.)

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July’ 21, 1k7 IECORDED {5 — 7 oy Urse A. Ce Sarbdanis y.py 6 Notre Dame Avemie NN Hicksville, Long Island, New York ear lirs, Sarbanis: I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter and enclosure dated duly 10, 1947. I have instructed the Special Agent in Charge of our New York Office to have a Special Agent call upon you for the purpose of obtaining further information in emnection with this matter. Your interest in calling this infornation to my attention ts indeed appreciated. Sincerely yours, John Edgar Hoover ; Director EEN | cc = New York (With ye ay There is no identifiable information in the files of the Bureau concerning the writer of this letter. The decoding of the message on the newspaper clipping was referred to the Laboratory, who subsequently advised that the writer's decoding was substantially correct. There is being set forth below the results of the Laboratory's decoding: “TIRED. OF HUMAN NONSENSE WONT AWAIT ATOMIC WAR DISRUPTING ORDER SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT FLYING DISKS AND WILL SET UP WORLD ORDER The New York Office should interview the writer of this letter i to ascertain from what newspaper the-clipping in question was obtained. Thereafter, contact. should be made with this newspaper ce to ascertain the identity of the, pergoncwho sent in the coded es Folge message. This individual mst be thoroughly interrogated to obtain aes clogs SOMMUNIG Ath adn ag tion surrounding tha alleged receipt of the ie Meet Co meS8Q| The Bureau /should‘be promptly advised of the results ay | M A ofl thape tok ries.) wt # ATT) 2 Pr JA

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See aa ’ > Office Memorandum . onirep sTaTES GOVERNMENT To : D. uM sal} : pate; August 18, 1947 z ¥ FROM : E. G. FitechA7 77 << X apy ee see Se & - ty} int clanig— / SUBJECT: | XE Rod . uel trady———— Mr; Garsor irs Egan irs Gurne Reference is made to your telephonic conversation with the me ic Director on Wednesday of last week, at which time the Director advised Mey Quinn fat that Los. Angeles papers carried under a Washington date line an article wre Mens indicating the Soviet espionage agents in the United States are under ? instruction to solve the flying discs. Such instructions were believed to be based on the assumption that the flying discs were a secret weapon of the Army or Navy. ‘he article attributed the source of its information to a Federal investigative agency. Pursuant to your instructions, liaison representatives have contacted the Headquarters of Military Intelligence, the Headquarters of the Air Forces Intelligence, Office of Naval Intelligence and CIG. All agencies denied any knowledge of the flying discs, as well as any knowledge of the basis for this article. EGF: OME vas wim § , RECORDED “ Bs ¥ ar! 1047,

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- C . y Office Memordndum + unrrep states GOVERNMENT TO : Mr. D. M. Ladd (V& DATE: August Ah, 197 yy FROM : Mr. J. Pe Ge wes Cottey At en memes SUBJECT: “FLYING DISCS es There are attached two copies of a blind memorandum setting = a forth the facts relative to the reported air crash of two AAF officers Tie Room investigating flying disc complaints. Z oo a RECOMMENDATION G = 7A pe anata ad v Z It is recommended that a copy of this memorandum be furnished \ by the Liaison Section to the Air Force Intelligence. Attachment Jo eeigg e / : RGF:mjp 1 / 3 » 4 F , 2S G2 uF Yt Ag ] DY a EO | 6) IA LL (° . 2) IBS J io : ap ees |

2. | q@ y a Office Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : BUREAU DATE: 8=23=47 Sua <—SAC, PORTLAND /_~ Sopject: FLYING DISCS _ SECURITY MATTER - X The following investigation was conducted at Canyonville and Myrtle Creek, Oregon on Auguet 12, 1947. RAY visas eaves Route 1, Box 195, Roseburg, Oregon, operator of the Tri City Airport, Myrtle Creek, Oregon, advised that on 8-6-47 at approximately 6:15 PM while instructing a student in a take off at the airport, he noticed an object east of Myrtle Creek which appeared to be from 5,000 to 8,000 feet in the air. The sky was completely clear and visibility was excellent. He stated that the object glistened and appeared to be of aluminium sheeting. Upon noticing it he had immediately taken over the controls of the plane which at that time was at 400 feet, and proceeded East in an attempt to further observe the object. He advised that the object appeared to be climbing and traveling East at a high rate of speed which he estimated on a computer in his plane as 1,000 miles per hour. He believed the object to be spherical in shape and recalled noticing a darker object to the right the first time he saw ite He observed no vapor trails nor did he hear any noise from the object. After searching the area for approximately 10 minutes HATFIELD and his student NOBLEMELLISON returned to the airport and made another landing and take off. In practically the same position at 400 feet altitude, both ELLISON and HATFIELD saw the object in approximately the same position as seen before. He estimated the sphere to be 30 feet in diameter and stated when they first observed it it appeared to be so near he could fly right to it. However, the object sighted the second time disappeared in the same manner as the first had. It is noted that HATFIELD served as a Lieutenant JG in the U. S. Naval Air Corps for about 34 years, flying constantly on the Atlantic submarine patrol. He is a reputable citizen in Douglas County and is reported to be a qualified pilot. Mr. NOBLE ELLISON, Myrtle Creek, Oregon, verified the above information as furnished by HATFIELD, stating that the first object sighted had been called to his attention when HATFIELD took over the controls of the plane at about 400 feet following his take off, but that they had both sighted the object on the second take off at the same time. ELLISON described the object as a “silver ball or balloon" which he believed to be 8 miles east of Myrtle Creek, traveling East, and climbing very fast until it disappeared in approximately 45 seconds. ELLISON estimated the sphere as being 50 feet in diameter and stated in his opinion the second object appeared to climb straight up. . : oe RECORD ete Bday Me GS G r i ; es COPIES DESTROYED ¢ Daan : ¥ 7 ee 270 NOV 18 1964 5

¥ - He advised that he did not observe any evidence of motion such as vapot or trails, etc. and could hear no noise over the noise of his own shipe Investigation in the vicinity of Myrtle Creek, Oregon, has failed to reveal any other person sighting the objects reported by HATFIELD and ELLISON. No further investigation is being conducted. PJMsMB 62-1531 =~

~ *F2BERAL BUREAU OF rwvesti@pr0x Saat) Ss 1947. SN EEE ___The Director ____Records Section __\Mr. Tolson ____Stamp and mail Mr. Ladd —_—Prepare tickler —___Mr. Rosen ~ 2 Call “fi ie ——Mr. Clegg —___Mr. Glavin ___Mr. Nichols Bas: —__Mr. Tracy, —__CalY¥ me re this __Mr. Hapto ——Nofe and return \ A BL Carroll Wy; Vag |) " ne Coyne Mr. J 2 Lov? +iMr, Fletcher Room. j Mr. Laughlin ___Mr. McCabe ——AMr. Mohr —__Miss Gandy __Mr. Nease ——Miss Gray ___Mr. Pennington —___Miss Lyon ae Mr. Quinn Tamm —____Miss. Artley a2 MP. Dyler Fe. Pt , . Charm, FN OE: . y° “ fal / Te + Cine, pi See Sete OE fo Edward’a. Tamm J S€ 5734 bbe ony SET

: i 3 auc Y Lv i] FBI BUTTE 8-20-47 3-22 PN LB Rig? orn DIRECTOR URGENT ‘4 FLYING DISCS. BETWEEN NINE THIRTY AND NINE FORTY FIVE PM LAST NIGHT, AUGUST NIMETEENTH, MR. AND MRS. He See THIRD AVENUE NORTH, TWIN FALLS, IDAHO, WHILE SITTING ON THE FRONT PORCH WITH MRS. HENRY >Kcuuntz, OBSERVED AN OBJECT RESENBLING A FLYING SAUCER TRAVELING VERY RAPIDLY FROM THE SOUTHWEST TO THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THIS CITY. ABOUT TEN MINUTES LATER, ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SAW TEN SIMILAR OBJECTS PROCEEDING RAPIDLY IN THE SAME DIRECTION IN THE FORM OF A TRIANGLE. AS THIS GROUP OF OBJECTS WAS ABOUT TO DISAPPEAR IN THE OVERCAST SKY, THREE OF THE OBJECTS ON THE LEFT FLANK PEELED OFF AND PROCEEDED IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION. THE REMAINING OBJECTS IN THE TRIANGULAR FORMATION / \APPEARED TO CLOSE RANKS AND CONTINUE IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION. — TO FIVE MINUTES LATER THESE INDIVIDUALS? SAW ANOTHER G@RURNK GROUP Re ; PVR THREE OBJECTS PROCEEDING IN THE. $QME RURRGEEON. AGAIN IN THE se : ee THREE To FIVE MINUTES LATER INFORMANTS OBSERVED Keng ® Scroup consIsTING ‘Of FROM FIVE TO SIX OBJECTS, AGAIN IN FRIANGULR ys FORMATION, PROCEEDING RAPIDLY IN A NORTHEASTERLY me A FEW ‘MINUTES LATER A LARGE GROUP OF OBJECTS ESTIMATED AT on FEN THIRTY FIVE AND FIFTY FLEW OVER THE CZTY IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION, AGAIN IN i 7 hs Og Syayy

y ® ® ’ PAGE TWO TRIANGULAR FORMATION. BETWEEN TWENTY AND TWENTY FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE LAST GROUP WAS OBSERVED, SIMILAR OBJECTS WERE NOTED COMING BACK OVER THE CITY VERY RAPIOLY AND PROCEEDING IN A SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTION. , AT THIS TIME INFORMANTS STATED THE OBJECTS APPEARED IN GROUPS OF THREE, FIVE AND SEVEN. AT THIS POINT MRS. HEDSTROM CALLED DETECTIVE RICHARD FRAZIER OF THE TWIN FALLS PD, A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, WHO ACCOMPANIED BY Me Es ROUNDTREE AND RICHARD SCOTT, ALSO MEMBERS OF THE TWIN FALLS PD, | PROCEEDED TO THE HEDSTROM HOME WHERE THEY OBSERVED A GROUP OF TWELVE | opszcTs FLYING IN FORMATION OVER THE CITY IN A SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTION. | INFORMANTS , ALL REPUTABLE CITIZENS THIS COMMUNITY, UNABLE TO ESTIMATE jeeisir OF OBJECTS OR SPEED, BUT CLAIMED THEY RESEMBLED ILLUMINATED “ FLYING SAUCERS. THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE OF THE OPINION THAT THE OBJECTS OBSERVED WERE NOT THE LANDING LIGHTS OF ‘AIRPLANES NOR SHOTING STARS. NONE OF THESE OBJECTS WERE SEEN TO COME TO EARTH NEAR TWIN FALLS AND NONE APPEARED TO BE FLYING IN AN ARC. NONE OF THESE OBSERVERS HEARD ANY SOUND AS THE @@MK ABOVE OBJECTS PASSED OVER THE CITY. INVESTIGATION CONTINUING IN LINE WITH BUREAU INSTRUCTIONS CONTAINED BUREAU BULLETIN NO. FORTY TWO, PARAGRAPH B, DATED JULY THIRTY LAST. IN EVENT BUREAU IN POSSESSION OF ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING EXPERIMENTAL ACTIVITIES ON

$ ° ry (- G 7 oS PAGE THREE PART OF ARMY AIR FORCES WHICH MAY EXPLAIN THESE PHENOMENA, ADVICE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. IT IS BELIEVED CONTINUED APPEARANCE OF SUCH | | seers WITHOUT OFFICIAL EXPLANATION MAY RESULT IN HYSTERIA OR PANIC Hi FALLS, IDAHO. BANISTER ACK AND HOLD PLS 5-31 PM OK FBI WASH DC WJR wt Bey 3 on

Ay we ie € é yy AUGUST 25, 1947 - URGENT SAC BUTTE FLYING DISCS. EXTENSIVE INQUIRIES AT ARMY AIR FORCES REVEAL THAT NO RESEARCH OR EXPERIMENTS WERE BEING CONDUCTED BY AAF IN THE VICINITY OF TWIN FALLS, IDAHO ON OR ABOUT AUGUST NINETEEN. IN THE EVENT YOUR SOURCES IN THE ARMY, NAVY OR AIR FORCES INDICATE OTHERWISE ADVISE BUREAU PROMPTLY. HOOVER rar:ew FX-30 , { ; , ee | 494 coprés DnsTROYED ‘ 4 = 270 NOV 18 1964

- ie Se + ff sgavoano ron no. 64 é é Office Memorandum + oxrrup stares GOVERNMENT TO : D. M. Ladd DATE: August 22, 1947, poison Le eg ur, Chegs FROM : E. oo A Zz nee Be 77 lad SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS Shs Reference is made the teletype from the Butte Field Division ra fen Sao dated August 20, 1947, in the above captioned matter. ur! Jones. — In accordance with your request, this matter was checked with i Nena Army Air Forces, . Lieutenant Colonel George D. Garrett, Jr., advised iegeil iE Special Agent F. P. Griffee that extensive inquiries withwhe Amy Air ‘ST ? i TEAR Forces revealed that no research or experiments were being conducted by the AAF in the vicinity of Twin Falls, Idaho on or about August 19, 1947, Colonel Garrett stated that he had no information which would throw any light on the matter reported in the teletype. It is suggested this memorandum be routed to the Internal Security Section to the attention of Supervisor Fletcher, REQ ED mS FX-30 oh

‘ EDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAT AWA TED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AUGUST 30, 197 URGENT 70: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION. Transmit the following message to: sy | eine ag 7 eee Ug ABEND NERS aA ip ha esate GE EM i) Bers

~ STANDARD FORM No. 64 ) rd Office Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT T Director pate: September 5, 1947 : SAC, Portland h ID Re IN Fi SUBJECT: “FLYING DISCS yr SECURITY MATTER - X / \ Rererenee is made to my teletype dated August 15, 1947 advising that a Mr. JOBS ETT of Agate Beach, Oregon had reported on August 7, 1947 that he sighted-what he believed to be a disc. Mr. JOHN BARTL, instead of BARTLETT, now residing in Newport, Oregon was interviewed by Special Agent ROBERT J. PETTYJOHN. Mr. BARTL stated that on August 7, 1947 he was residing at Agate Beach, Oregon and that his house was very near the ocean beach; that at about 12:30 A. Me he was awakened by his son coming in and that while awake he noticed a bright glow of light across the sky out over the ocean. He stated that he immediately thought of flying discs and thought this might be one of the discs. Mr. BARTL went on to say that he had no idea as to the shape or size of this object but that it appeared to be about five miles out over the ocean and F that he was able to see it for about 15 to 30 seconds. He further stated that due to the darkness he could tell nothing about the speed of this object but thought it was traveling a great deal faster than any airplane he had ever seen. He informed that this glow of light was somewhat similar to "The Northern Light" which sometimes appears in the sky but of course not nearly as large and that it appeared to be going up and down, that is fluctuating in altitude as it traveled along. He stated it disappeared in the west, either falling into the ocean or disappearing over the horizon. He could give no other information concerning this object of light reported by him as possibly being a flying disc. Mr. BARTL has an Agate and Myrtlewood shop in Newport. ff ) saws RuP/es 9 ) <w ! ] b MM i RDED At ne / ypxBD, LO ee ae rE 8 ve ca 6

i : ca ea oe ey ra) 7 Ls / jeptember 2, 1947 ag Ure. We Te Hillitane Mies 417 Bast Stevenson Street Florence, Alabana Dear irs. Williama: 30 A Your letter of Auguet 16, 1947, has been recetved, and I am most appreciative of the thought- Julnesse which prompted you to communicate with me. Jor your tnformation, no reward hae been offered by any Ue Se Government Agency jor the location of “flying saucerae" I regret that I am unable to be of asetstance in thie inetance. ; qincerely yours, John Edgar Hoover Director FECsb1Lf - J Soe ETI) \! pore age oo ® 1 Ted a mete | mae ¥

STANDARD FORM NO. 64 4 Mickey 4 0 Saas cat Office Mem andun “. UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT { TO : Director, FBI DATE: August 20, 1947 FROM): SAC, Springfield suyecr/ PLING DISC Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, dated duly 30, 1947 re the above. For the Bureau's information a Mrs. JUNE(ANDERSON of Saybrook, Illinois reported to this office the finding of a flying disc in her front yard at 6:00 A.M. on duly 26, 1947. It appears from investigation conducted by an Agent of this office that the stability of JUNE ANDERSON is questionable. How- ever the alleged flying disc was obtained and it is apparently the concoction of some of the juveniles in the area. It is an old wooden platter, which has assembled on it a silver plate, a ? spark plug, a timer, and some old brass tubing. Photographs were taken of the sam and there are six views enclosed herewith. No doubt this was someone's idea of a prank. The dise is presently being retained by the Springfield Office and will be retained pending receipt of bureau advice relative to its destruction. The thought in retaining it was that perhaps the Bureau might desire to have it transmitted to Washington for any novel value it might haves ae mers Saini: 62-0-1445 a Enc. (6) Ee 3 Ly

Enclosure - To Bureau Photographs of "Flying Disc" found at Saybrook, Ill, 7-26-47 SI File 62-0-1445 /

- "Flying Dise" “83 LG Found Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

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“38rs¢ "Flying Disc" Found Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

5 . "Flying Disc" “3Lig Found Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

“31S "Flying Disc" Found Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

"Flying Disc" ‘ Found Saybrook, Ill., 7-26-47

ee . ‘ q ‘9 sae . B >i ? SAC, Springfield September 5, 1947 Director, FBI a FLYING DISC q- | y Ls) With reference to your letter, dated August 20, 1947, it is desired Ci" ~” that you contact the appropriate Army officials and in the event they are not interested in receiving this alleged flying disc, it may be destroyed. RGF :LAA o SS oS & S eisai Oe =. & ~) oe Winey. 8. DEPARTME OO og iaae \ Y

Petia a Ps { ve U. 8, DEP F JUSTICE 2 ce lial | COMMUNICATIONS ReeTing ¢ m Und PECTION a fia) t TELETYPE FBI PORTLAND 9-4-47 3-42 PM PST KAM we 4 VE a 2) le j RE FLYING DISCS. ‘A MRS. RAYMONDYBOPUL, OSWEGO, OREGON, REPORTED TO HAVE TWELVE FIFTEEN PM, SEPT. THIRD, FORTYSEVEN, ABOVE OSWEGO, OREGON, WHILE a rm a os 9uHODD PLS - CAN ‘ oe 7» ep Mee Vow erat. Pe 7-45 PM OK FBI WASTp) Ny \Y } : = ‘ y , 4j*) TY scoRDEP 16 194%. \ “4 /\ y if ) baad Sal 0) . .

Office Memorandum + onvrev states GOVERNMENT TO : DIRECTOR DATE: 9-13-47 om : SAC, PORTLAND SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS SECURITY MATTER - X Reference is made to my teletype dated 9-4-47, advising that Mrs. RAYMONDADUPUIS , Oswego, Oregon, was reported to have seen a number of discs on 9-3-47 above Oswego. Mrs. DUPUIS was interviewed and described the object which she has observed as follows: While entertaining her 7 year old son and 10 year old neighbor child on her lawn, at about noon, Mrs. DUPUIS and the children noticed approximately two dozen round silver objects high in the sky. Mrs. DUPUIS stated she believed these objects to have been platter shaped rather than spherical and to have been considerably larger than an airplane of the cub type which was flying in a different portion of the sky at the same time. She advised that these objects appeared to her to be at a great distance and constructed of some white metallic material. Mrs. DUPUIS' attention was first drawn to the objects by an ex- planation from one of the children to the effect that the airplane was sky- writing. The objects were grouped in approximately an arc about level with the sun and to the left of the sun as viewed by Mrs. DUPUIS. They did not change positions during the 3 or 4 minutes which she pbserved them but some of the larger of the objects appeared to rotate rapidly in the manner of a wheel. One of the objects was separated by considerable distance from the main group and while she was watching Mrs. DUPUIS states this object began (Su to fall and floated slowly downward until it wes no longer visable because 7 +} of trees on the horizon. Mrs. DUPUIS advised that she continued to observe the remaining objects until her eyes began to be affected by the brightness of the sky whereupon she went into her house and is unable to state whgt becane of the groupe fier \ 62-1531 ee em ee : = SEP 17 1947 ga 1B ie EX-42 ag

oe « ° \ Office Memorandum + unttEp sTATES GOVERNMENT ow To : MR. D. M, IADD GZ 4 DATE: September 8, 1947 \ FROM : EB. G. Fitch ZY tet bea, ame BAL kr: Cleag . : tr? tadg ——— SUBJECT: YING DISCS Mes Michols Mes, Pragya Mrs Cansei. “ Reference is made to my memorandum to you in the above captioned i: cirm<—— matter dated August 22, 1947, which indicates that Special Agent Griffee = =! sm ——— of the Liaison Section had contacted Lieutenant Colonel G. D. Garrett, Jr., 4}, ten of the Air Forces Intelligence at which time Colonel Garrett advised that #;.2..—— the Amy Air Forces were conducting no research or experiments in the Mise Sendy_—_— vicinity of Twin Falls, Idaho, on or about August 19, 1947. Colonel carret ta Wiag ; at that time indicated to Mr. Griffee that he would check with the Amy area fab in order to ascertain whether or not they were conducting any experiments in “a Zh. this vicinity at that time. NN \ Colonel Garrett has subsequently advised Mr. Reynolds that he has ik] been advised by the Army area that no such experiments were being conlucted fs wi )\ in the area of Twin Falls, Idaho, on or about August 19, 1947, which would .M) in any way throw any light on the matter reported in the teletype. RECOMMENDATION It is recommenied this memorandum be forwarded to Mr. Fle ‘r of the Internal Security Section. $ sitsyhr aes G Ab aq Y os (Z2- £3874 - , ae RECOR! SEEN erm se, J ‘ Fie had. bhG.1947 ia)

ae x rm | ad ; bd - September 25, 1947 Mr. A. Courtney Parker Superintendent of Schools South Royalton, Vermont Dear Mr. Parkers I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated September 17, 1947, An Agent of our Albany, New York, Office will call upon you in the near future for any additional in- formation in your possession. Your courtésy and interest in bringing this matter to my attention are indeed appreciated, z Sincerely yours, ! John Edgar Hoover Director ec = Albany (separate cover letter) RECORDED 62-83894 qs as RGF :omw on th: *t ae Ss ur, Tolson Po eonasrtenescnensiennimintmrensnes Met Lada ——— i } urs Bean ok . foe 1947 py, AY, ie. Yonr ————— Mr. PennTngton__ j , i) ua mei 7) Tele. Room FEDER +f ids Gane { us 7 Tice ‘ “ i\ Ad VINES

es ee Sac, Albany September 25, 1947 Director, FBI FIYING Discs A. Courtney Parker, Informent Attached hereto are copies of an incoming commmication from A. Courtney Parker, Superintendent of Schools, South Royalton, Vermont, and copies of acknowledgment of same, Tt is requested that an Agent of your Office call on Mr. Parker to obtain any additional information in his possession concerning flying discs, a ES mestbures i om : wae ec me tr olson, CAAG OTN -

‘ STATE OF VERMONT CHELSEA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION sHAnG Be Ae ORANGE - WINDSOR - DISTRICT ara eect A, COURTNEY PARKER, Superintendent ea SOUTH ROYALTON September 17, 1947 Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington, D. C. Dear Sirs: At 3:40 P.M. to-day I observed a so-called flying saucer. This occurred while I was half way up Rix Ledges north of Lebanon, N. H. As I was intently watching tne honey bees circling in a patch of sky after leaving my bee box my attention was called to a floating object that ) > appeared to be as large as a tennis ball and as white as _ cotton batting. This object approached rapidly and noiselessly : from the East and was followed closely by another object x é that appeared in size and shape like a saucer which maintained 7 a constant angle of inclination to the ball and followed it , at a constant distance. The two objects made an angle with \Ns my eye of approximately five degrees. Tney were in my vision ry ey PE y g By y for more than a minute wnen I lost them in the glare of the sune If I had seen this in tne night sky with my six inch telescope I would have thought that the planets Venus and Saturn nad suddenly gotten together and were traveling i at great spee@ much nearer tne eartnad 520 7¢ A CORDEP ee _, RECO 4 }/ Re «| ; ywoEe® Very truly yours afA/ Wf ~ tL ourtlreg>SaUteth— a\? : OEE. 4 if } e “Ss OM. ; ae, : = jie aie ae i a

é a _ OrFice oF Director 7 Japan, FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION . Aegs , UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ~ / Mr. Glavin. [4 (\uomtr. Laaa__/ / September 8, 1947 Vy ¥ Mr. Nichole____ Mr. Rosen Mr. Tracy Mr. Carson, Mr. Egan The attached was sent to Mr. Gurnea__ the Director by Walter Mr. Harbo Winchell. Mr. Hendon Mr. Jones ? : Mr. Pennington_ The notations appearing Tele Room thereon read: Wet Noses Miss Holmes ” . ” aa Ack & F.B.I. tas Quads \ "Please excuse haste - Trying to make airmail west." 1 BAC y) / Attachment ht a > Ved nt CRKED 6 # 4 Bur eau Sil @Sypoil to reflect any record on a Mrs. Madeline Gwynne Herchant, the writer of the attached letter. i = a et E B x \ Fy § HWock J Pe}

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@ af 6 . # Mrs. Madeline Gwynne Merctant m ry ye CE ILE aaa a SRD ALY = a ieee ee pe uf su Sf Box 263, Santa Fe, New Mexico at d an FS : soatite P i GPE? F 45 13. EC ; fee July 13, L947 | t #" pt Y Mr. Walter Winchell, at ee if | ye : / % Postmaster, - Za 7 te j : es Los Angeles, Calif. fe oe i Ve 7) Dear Mr. Winchell: NG Ais A te 2 ed le tter ae ls with what are bein called "discs." You wre not to mention the contents o1 this letter over the air, nor to any individual other than officials of the War Dep't., members of tne PBI, or an American whose patriotism would rank with your own, and who might donate $10,000 or more for the purpose ot my co itinuing the collection of field data concerning "discs," while time mav remain in which to do SO. I have had respectful attention from tne Tollowin perso st (Bit-—ne—che eins; _hez-sxpense_accommis_exen_) Col. Herbert C. Gee, Comm. Officer, Los Alamos Atomic Project, Los Alamos, N.lM. Maj. Bidney Newburger, Security Official, Los Alamos Atomic Project, Los Alamos, Nell. Mr. Willard Simmer, Military Intelligence, P.O. Box ool,

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: Francis Finley, Agent-in-Charge Ne Si r Vv: Ee, (2) @ Federal Bureau of In Wii setion, (Phone 1566) Santa Fe, N.M. a Gen. S.R. ‘Brennault, Ass't. to Lt. Gen. Nathan F. Twining, AAP Materiel Command, Washington, D.C. Col. Zumwalt, Ass't to Colonel Bunker, Comm. Off. Kirtland Field, Albuquerque, N.M. Gen. Patrick Hurley, (Former Ambassador to China, ) 1210 Shoreham Bld'g. (Also Santa Fe, N.l.) Washingta,, D.C And through the courtesy of Gen. Patrick Hurley, a letter from Sec. of War Robert Patterson, War Dep't, Washingto Ly D.q All were highly interested, appreciative, with the eneral trend of contacts being, "This is fine. Go right ahead." My point in writing you is to raise some money to | proceed with. No budgets seemed to allow for the unexpected, elusive Sen. Carl Hatch, D-N.M., U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C. has been contacted by mail tor an appropriation&, but even if this only requires one more week, it mav be too late. You may contact any of the above listed persons to verity my contacts (excuse repetition word contact) durir the past four months. In other words, I began reporting directlv to Dr. Norris Bradbury, Scientific Head of Los Alamos, and Colonel Gee, 4 4 + serial "disc" was a reality. et al, some time ago that this type aerial "disc" was a reality

1 (3) i cs +nis material was considered confidential, and still is. I have been asked by Colonel Gee not to speak anv further than material which has been published in the press. And I have chosen simply not to speak at all, except to a source which I consider might further my own work. If you ask of the above persons, to ascertain whether or not I have made serious, materially valuable contributions, which may indicate much scientifically...... and which, if action can be continued soon enough, may a little later save our nation much,... please make inquiries quietly, and as promptly as convenient. I must ask you not to speculate, even to yourself... but simply to act. Jo not mention in any manner, until release bv the War Dep't, even the receipt of this ietter, except to the above persons, or proper government officials there. Or, to one whom vou know will Make a donation. Ferhaps your savest bet would be simply to telephone the #BI there, and let them telephone Francis Finley here for verification. I promise you an exclusive, behind the scenes storv when, and if, the War Dep't releases the material nationally. Meuntime, your action now may save your own life, and that of others who mav ‘ have wondered what a "disc" is. ae Rest assured I have all the pw per scientific and governmenta, contacts needed...... ali I need is the wherewithall. I have the proper background to discuss the subject, secure the further field

SA) i . af e data I no need, explain it technically, and secure proper action, provided I am given the means to do so. I regret that I cannot be more specific now, but duty to country rests above. I have met before with the mental reaction, “What? <A woman handling this type material? " And my signature befow will probably evoke the same response from vou. ‘So I assure vou, ves, it is a woman who is coming in with the information which men have gone out to seek. And doing the proper thing about it. Most respectfully, a JE ae Ts : Mrs. Madeline ErrmpSfatronant ce/ P.S. Am a former newspaper person, and very proud of it. Am 59, but dress and feel some vounger. Again, I must ask vou not to mention even the town from Which this letter comes, as you may be endangering lives to so so. Simply ascertain my contributions, get some monev to me, and wait. (francis Finley himself would give me a gas budget, if ne were not so close himself.)

STANDARD FORM NO. G4 Office Mengprandum * UNITED ATES GOVERNMENT | TO- : wr. R. T. Harbo = DATE: august 28, 1947 FROM: fT, F, Baughman ye. gotzon_ SUBJECT: fetter and material received from ae i Mrs J } +x0n ‘Cone —_] Mrs. J. HyMijxon pe astill, South Carolina MEL arse Route 1, Box 30 Bet Hencon—— ‘ The attached letier dated August 14, 1947 from Mrs. Mixon to- ss seuy———J gether with the material which she reports to be part of a flying saucer bua Ay was received inthe Laboratory on August 19, 1947. The material which CAMP ‘ was submitted with Mrs. Mixon's letter has been identified as powdered OFF soap stones, . Inasmuch as the Investigative and Security Divisions might possibly 1 \ be interested in this matter, I request that you advise me as to the final s disposition of the submitted material as well as the type of reply which c Should be made to Mrs. Mixon's letter. \ gD a pss ese 7 / Q2 EX-8: a Y a ah s } J svi |

‘ STANDORD FORM NO. 64 % Office Memorandum ~ onirep states GOVERNMENT, / ro 0 ty oD. U. Ladd WOK, DATE: September 4, 194’ —~ 2 \ ily Be ke ee FROM : de P. Co; WAP ri Gage (i — sunyect; CPLYING SAUCER 2 Reference is made to the memorandum from Mr. Baughman to Mr. i ? — Harbo, dated August 28, 1947, requesting advice as to the final disposi-~/pp We ae tion of material submitted by ine. J. iseet, Estill, South Carolina. / eget It is noted that this mterial, which Mrs. Mixon reported to be a part of oO a flying saucer, has been identified as powdered soap stones, f gh we It is recommended that the material be returned to Mrs. Mixon along with a letter advising that such has been identified as powdered soap stones, / f pen" > af RGF sLH }h

- Memorandum + ouwtrep states GOVERNMENT Pa, : Director, FBI DATE: Sept: rh, a iy AERO 3 SAC, Phoenix 7) Nb sysject: REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS \ oy ary Ba ATTENTION: ASSISTANT DIRECTOR D. M. LADD ri | Reference is made to San Francisco letter dated August 28, 1947, A and to Bureau teletype to Phoenix dated August 30, 1947. With reference to the above matter, I desire to point out that the ©: y letter of reference from San Francisco did not reach Phoenix until September a ‘ 2, 1947. : eh On August 29, 1947, a Mr. GEORGE FUGATE, JR. called at the Phoenix i ae - office and exhibited credentials reflecting that he is a representative of A-2; © Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California. He also exhibited orders emanating” _ from the office of Colonel DONALD SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, ~ California, instructing him to proceed to Phoenix immediately and contact the FBI -- "office, at which time a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation would” — - be designated to Accompany him to interview WILLIAMLRHODES , who had previously 73 = “reported the photographing of a flying disc. The orders further indicated that ~ - the San Francisco office of the FBI was transmitting further information re- 3% >, lating to Mr. FUGATE'S mission. See Oars ASAC HEBER M. CLEGG telephonically communicated with SAC HARRY KDA of the San Francisco office and Mr. KIMBALL verified the above information and == — stated that a letter had been directed to the Phoenix office suggesting that the xen Phoenix office assist any representative who called from A-2 in the interrogation ” of RHODES. SAC KIMBALL stated that in connection with flying discs, he had main= ~~ tained close contact with Colonel SPRINGER and that close cooperation existed. ~ He further advised that many reports of flying discs had been received at San ~~ Francisco and that a full discussion concerning the results of inquiries had ot dome been held with Colonel SPRINGER. smooT if 4 eae sal = In connection with flying disc investigations, Mr. KIMBALL advised he had maintained close touch with the Bureau and had apparently handled these matters in accordance with Bureau policy. In view of the above, Special Agent J. BAILEY BROWER of the Phoenix ounce was permitted to work with Mr. FUGATE in the interview of WILLIAM ALBERT : (ODES. The results of the inquiry are set out hereunder. e ufo In)? Ny pees.) LT Oy O me 4 hele y y wane | Je it \ 270 NOV 18 1964

‘ . Phoenix file 62-213 WILLIAM ALBERT RHODES, 4333 N. 14th Street, Phoenix, Arizona, owns and maintains the Panoramic Research Laboratory and Hobby Shop at this address, and he related the following as occurring on the afternoon of July 7, 1947: ~ A storm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of July 7, 1947, and the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet, the color of which was grey and they resembled dense cumulus. A fifteen mile per hour wind was blowing. At approximately 5 p.m. on that date, Mr. RHODES was walking from his home to the Hobby Shop and he heard a noise resembling a P-80 aircraft, apparently coming in a westerly direction. Upon searching the skies he observed to the northeast what appeared to be an odd shaped ship. He described this ship as being possibly 20 to 30 feet in diameter, traveling at an estimated speed of 100 miles per hour. It appeared to be making a spiral in a small radius of possibly one-half to three quarters of a mile. RHODES stated the sound which he first heard was no longer audible; that he hurriedly procured a 120 Brownie Box Camera from his shop, and as the aircraft completed the first circle he obtained a photograph. As the ship started on the second turn, it was ina northwesterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, which more closely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being designated as Exhibit II, as submitted to the Bureau with letter dated August 4, 1947, by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff A-2 Intelligence, Hamilton Field, California. RHODES further described the direction of the ship by stating that instead of completing the lefthand downward spiral the ship banked to the right and disappeared into the clouds. He stated that just as it banked, he had snapped the second photograph, Exhibit IT. At the last point, which was at the time the ship made this turn, Mr. RHODES estimated it to be between 1,000 and 2,000 feet high. He further des- cribed the appearance of this ship as closely resembling a picture which appeared on the front cover of the May, 1947, issue of the Mechanics Illustrated Magazine, the only difference noted by Mr. RHODES being that the ship appeared to be fly- ing backward. Mr. RHODES also related that he did not associate the appearance of this ship with the numerous reports of flying discs. He related, however, that after a three minute interview with newspaper reporters the story that appeared in the local papers was "blown up" to the extent that he, RHODES, barely recog= nized the information furnished by him. Mr. RHODES explained that the afore- mentioned dimensions and distances were only estimated, pointing out, that his Previous experience probably assisted him in making fairly.close estimates. He related that he had been doing experimental work for the past ten years. He also stated he was employed at the Naval Ordnance Laboratory, Washington, D. C. during the early part of World War II and left there the beginning of 1942. Upon his return to Phoenix, he was employed at Falcon Field near Phoenix which was leased by the British Government for training purposes. He instructed in instrument training, aircraft identification and gunnery practice. He explained that his hobbies have to do with science, physics, radio, electronics and astronomy. He produced a model which he had made of a radio controlled airplane. He related that most of his work consists of building transformers, but it is also necessary for him to depend upon his music ability for his livlihood. -2=

; A Phoenix file 62-213 In explaining the results of photographing the ship, Mr. RHODES stated that he was surprised that the object appeared dark on a light back- ground; that he fully expected that the object would be light on a dark back- ground. He described the light spot which appears in the center of the object (Exhibit II) as being a green house. RHODES insisted that the ship made no noise that was audible to his ear and he was unable to detect the presence of any propeller. He also related that after the newspaper release over Radio Station KTAR, wherein statements were made that he, RHODES, had stated Army officials were studying the photographs, and that it was a top secret, he attempted to determine the source of this release and the Radio station finally told him that it was a United Press release from Washington, D. C. The following description of RHODES was obtained from observation and interrogation: Age 30 Date birth 12-29-16 Place birth Garden City, Kansas Height 6" 38 Weight 155 pounds Eyes Blue Hair Brown Education Phoenix Union High School Marital status Married- one son It should be stated that at the time of interview with RHODES, Mr. BROWER identified himself as an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and exhibited his credentials. However, pursuant to a request from Mr. FUGATE, he was introduced only as a representative of the United States government. His exact official connection was not made known to Mr. RHODES. Agent BROWER advised that he felt it was a peculiar procedure, but it was not his business. However, at the conclusion of the interview, Mr. FUGATE requested Mr. RHODES to furnish him with the negatives and RHODES stated he would be glad to do so, but they were not in his immediate possession, and he would deliver them to the FBI the following morning. Mr. RHODES requested that the negatives be returned to him, Agent BROWER states that to this request, Mr. FUGATE made no reply. Agent BROWER states that after leaving Mr. RHODES he asked FUGATE if the negatives would be returned to Mr. RHODES and FUGATE stated that he doubted very much that they would) be returned. Mr. BROWER then advised Mr. FUGATE that before he, BROWER, would accept these negatives that RHODES must be advised of Mr. FUGATE'S identity and also advised that the negatives, if turned over to Mr. FUGATE, would not be returned to hin. -3-

Phoenix file 62-213 In view of which, on the morning on August 30, 1947, when Mr. RHODES called at the Phoenix office todeliver the negatives, they were accepted only after he was advised that they were being given to Mr. FUGATE, a representative of the Army Air Foree Intelligence, United States Army, and that there was little, if any, chance of his getting the negatives back. Mr. RHODES turned the negatives over to this office with the full understanding that they were being given to the Army and that he would not get them back. The Phoenix office did not receive the Bureau teletype of reference instructing that no joint investigation should be conducted until after the matter had been handled. Inasmuch as military authorities have complete knowledge of the results of the interview with Mr. RHODES no copy of this report is being designated for Aw2. JBB=-kb ec-San Francisco 62-213 j -4-

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eR aig ARMY AIR ar WASHINGTON IN REPLY REFER TO: AF RTR-CO 5 SEP 1947 Director Federal Bureau of Investigation Department of Justice Washington 25, D. C. Dear Sir: Attention: Liaison Section In answer to a verbal request of your Mr. S. W. Reynolds, a complete survey of research activities discloses that the Army Air Forces has no project with the characteristics similar to those which have been associated with the Flying Discs. Yours sincerely, GEO, F. SCHULGEN Bragedier General, U.S.A. Deputy, Ass't, Chief of Air Staff-2 é DECLASSIFIED =] j 3 Authority E f j vs YU t 1 6 f { ) i) jt f) nae 7 PONY ADDRESS REPLY To: CONMANDING GENERAL, ARMY AIR FORCES, WASHINGTON 25, D, C,

STANDARD FORM No. 64 6 t | é @ Office Memorandum °* UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : De M. LADD pate: 9/16/47 FROM : &, G, Fitch ) / Wi we =: de, ——— ¢ 7, : oe SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS ie Besy—— Mr. Guna Mr. Harbdo Special Agent S. ¥, Reynolds of the Liaison Section hag dis- i. imo —— cussed with Lieutenant Colonel George Garrett of the Intelligence Tele, Room Division of the Air Forces the possibility that the flying discs or ee saucers are in fact a project of the Army Air Forces. It should be noted that Colonel Garrett agreed with this possibility, At that time Mr. Reynolds pointed out te Colonel Garrett the possible embarrassing position of the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces if it was subsequently ascertained that this was the truth, especially since they had requested the assistance of the Bureau in the captioned matter, Colonel Garrett advised Mr. Reynolds that he would institute a further search, and he has now advised that a letter was addressed by Major General McDonald, Director of the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces, to the Research and Development Section of the Air Forces. There is attached hereto a letter aidressed to the Director, dated September 5, 1947, from Brigafier General George F. Sclmigen, which states that @ complete survey of research activities discloses that the Army Air Forces have no project with characteristics similar to those which have been associated with the flying discs. RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended that this memorandum be forwarded to the Internal Security Section for their information. PY, Attachment A a We y) & Z Y née 55 SEP 3.0 W4/

&. STAOAD rom no. 64 rj r Op Office Memorandum + ounvrep staTES GOVERNMENT | to : Director, FBI DATE: 9-17-47 oo) s Portland BJECT: HEPORTS OF FLYING DISCS SECURITY MATTER - X Refer San Francisco letter dated September 4, 1947. FRED Y«XJOHNSON, Globe Hotel, 106 NW. First Avenue, Portland, reported without consulting any records that on June 24, 1947, while prospecting at a point in the Cascade Mountains approximately five thousand feet from sea level, during the afternoon he noticed a reflection, looked up, and saw a disc pro- ceeding in a southeasterly direction. Immediately upon sighting this object he placed his telescope to his eye and observed the disc for approximately forty-five to sixty seconds. He remarked that it is possible for him to pick up an object at a distance of ten miles with his telescope. At the time the disc was sighted by Mr. JOHNSON it was banking in the sun, and he observed five or six similar objects but only concentrated on one. He related that they did not fly in any particular formation and that he would estimate their height to be about one thousand feet from where he was standing. He said the object was about thirty feet in diameter.and appeared to have a tail. It made no noise. According to JOHNSON he remained in the vicinity of the Cascades for several days and then returned to Portland and noted an article in the local paper which stated in effect that a man in Boise, Idaho, had sighted a similar object but that authorities had disclaimed any knowledge of such an object. He said he communicated with the Army for the sole purpose of attempt- ing to add credence to the story furnished by the man in Boise. JOHNSON also related that on the occasion of his sighting the objects on June 24, 1947 he had in his possession a combination compass and watch. He noted particularly that immediately before he sighted the disc the compass acted very peculiar, the hand waving from one side to the other, but that this condition corrected itself immediately after the discs had passed out of sight. Informant appeared to be a very reliable individual who advised that he had been a prospector in the states of Montana, Washington, and Oregon for the past forty years. FJS:KAM 62-1531 : WEoorpen 00 -_ zo 55 2cct San Francisco (62-2938) INDExgD F led rj ‘6 Q 2 z =A p32

\ ssrpntino FORM 30. 64 @ ®@ HM ffice Memorandum - UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : D. M. LADD px Sa y ac 9, 19 a / Jd FROM : E. G. FITCH A S ) —— SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS Mes) Fragy — Mrs Carson = ie! Gerase———— Mr. Hardo 2 Special Agent S. We Reynolds of the Liaison Section, while dis- ie; ulna fa ——— cussing the above captioned phenomena with Lieutenant Colonel7Carrett i of the Air Forces Intelligence, expressed the possibility that flying Mise Gandy discs were, in fact, a very highly classified experiment of the Army or V7 ‘ Navy. Mr, Reynolds was very much surprised when Colenel Garrett not onl; id fl agreed that this was a possibility, but confidentially stated it was his a personal opinion that such was a probability. Colonel Garrett indicated ta >a confidentially that a M.¥€arroll, who is a scientist attached to the Air g/ © py” Forces Intelligence, was of the same opinion. a “ Colonel Garrett stated that he based his assumption on the following: He pointed out that when flying objects were reported seen over Sweden, the "high brass" of the War Department exerted tremendous pressure on the Air Forces Intelligence to conduct research and collect information in an effort to identify these sightings. Colonel Garrett stated that, in contrast to this, we have reported sightings of unknown objects over the United States, and the "high brass" appeared to be totally unconcerned. He indicated this led him to believe that they knew enough about these objects to express no concern, Colonel Garrett pointed out further that the objects in question have been seen by many individuals who are what he terms "trained observers," such as airplane pilots. He indicated also that several of the individuals are reliable members of the commnity. He stated it is his conclusion that these individuals saw something. He stated the above has led him to come to the conclusion that there were objects seen which somebody in the Government knows all aboute Mr. Reynolds pointed out to Colonel Garrett that if it is a fact experimentations are being conducted by the United States Government, then it does not appear reasonable to request the FBI to spend money and precious ||| time conducting inquiries with respect to this matter. Colonel Garrett stated that he agreed with Mr. Reynolds in this regard and indicated that it would be A extremely embarrassing to the Air Forces Intelligence if it later is learned nacelle that these flying discs are, in fact, an experiment of the United States as Governments Mr. Reynolds subsequently discussed this matter with Colonel L. Re Forney of the Intelligence Division of the War Department. Colonel Forney stated that he had discussed the matter previously with General Chamberlin. Colonel Forney indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he has the assurance of General Brgy OM 2 03894 BO ‘ Lt Ld oat COPIES DESTROYED a 270 NOV 18 1964 )

oo e ® MEMORANDUM FOR MR. LADD Chamberlin and General Todd that the Army is conducting no experimentations with anything which could possibly be mistaken for a flying disc. Colonel Garrett of the Air Forces Intelligence subsequently contacted Mr. Reynolds and indicated that he had discussed this matter with General Schulgen of the Army Air Forces. General Schulgen had previously assured both lr. Reynolds and Colonel Garrett that to the best of his knowledge and in- formation no experiments were being undertaken by the Government which could be mistaken for flying discs. Colonel Garrett indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he had pointed out his beliefs to General Schulgen and had mentioned the | possibility of an embarrassing situation arising between the Air Forces {j Intelligence and the FBI. General Schulgen agreed with Colonel Garrett \ that a memorandum would be prepared for the signature of General McDonald, }\A2, to General LeMay, who is in charge of Research and Development in the \|air Corps. Colonel Garrett indicated that this memorandum will set forth || the characteristics of the objects seen by various reliable individuals. ||The memorandum will then request General LeMay to indicate whether or not | Jany experiments are being undertaken by the Air Forces which could possibly |Ioe connected with any of the observed phenomena. Colonel Garrett stated ) that when a reply is received from General LeMay, a commmication will be addressed to the Bureau. Mr. Reynolds will follow this matter closely with Colonel Garrett and General Schulgen so that the Bureau will be promptly advised of all information regarding the flying discs, especially any information indicating that they are, in fact, an experiment of some Governmental agency. ps

Office ‘Mivnor eles ° UNITED cae GOVERNMENT To: De Me LADD fw DATE: ee Miet J (So) 0. fF eee FROM: J. P. COYNE (4x) ia a! / supject: FLYING SAUCERS FLYING DISCS _ a Pe Me. Carson Mrs Harbo. ' Reference is made to the memorandum to you from the Liaison ie! Pemiegeo— Section dated July 21, 1947, setting forth a request from Colonel Niet eo — Golbranson of the Intelligence Division of the War Department for the wise otter Bureau to conduct investigation to determine the origin of the flying eo = discs. We OBSERVAT IONSs a It is felt that the situation regarding these flying saucers and flying discs is very similar to the situation which was previously encountered by the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints arising out of the sighting of Japanese baloons. You will recall that at the inception of these complaints the Bureau conducted considerable investigation and located numerous baloons as a cooperative measure for the Army and that after considerable work had been done, the Army then informed that these were military weapons and that they would take over the handling of these completely. This they did and in an extremely short time issued a big press release as to the splendid work of the Aruy in locating these Japanese baloons. From the information available thus / far, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a I military weapon. Certainly the Bureau has no way to determine what experiments} / / the Army and Navy are conducting and whether such might be arising out of /, \ experiments being conducted by them nor do we have any way of determining how | | far the Russians have progressed in certain experiments and thether such mi ght b be the results of experiments by the Russian Army. It short, it would cértainly, appear that this is a military situation and should be handled strictly by A. | military authorities. ree ae In this connection it might be pointed out that our present Portland case arose out of the fact that two Army Intelligence officers were returning from an interview of two individuals who reportedly had seen flying discs. If jthe Army Intelligence officers are handling some of these interviews, it is be- fitevea that they should be handling all of these interviews, and it is not believed that the Bureau should be expending its precious manpower on these com- plaints which thus far have no connection with our Russian espionage program. The military authorities certainly are better equipped to imow what they are looking for than we are and have more facilities for handling any material which it is necessary to examine as a result of its being reported as a remant of a )flying disc. It is believed that the Bureau is merely playing bird-dog for the Army by using our manpower to run out these complaints on flying discs. se &X-34 R&corpgp (62-93 5% i 87 In view of the recent Bureau Bulletin #42 dated July 305 19233 hoviiver, there is attached a letter to the Chicago Office asking thatQWne$E Bondul@t 7t he requested investigation. yy ~ Attachment NY . Orbis mae 7, of < 3

October 3, 1947 “rae Joseph H. Ryan Bieber, California Dear lirs. Ryans Receipt is acknowledged of your letter dated September 19, 1947, requesting information concerning the origin of the “Flying BAMEF oc pny) Mystery". guar: In this connection, you are advided ” that in view of a long established policy I am unable to furnish the results of investigations ty this Bureau to other than Governmental sources. For this reason I regret that I am unable to answer your question, but I appreciate your interest in writing to me in this regard. Sincerely yours, John Edgar Hoover Director rm ve RGF vj scmw i i — \ fi), He: Menor —S—DEPARTWENT OPMLSTICE ¢ oS i ea , ies farses Fo / it! Penatgcoe— j hy wr. Quinn Tam + Xf Tele. Room \ Mie Senza z

fe YO och A 4 r t . Y Py ™ FEUEMAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Ct ; ; U, S, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE et : we GOMMUNGATIONS, SECTION Pa AUG 7 1947 —_ | TELETYPE \ q° | © FBI, SEATTLE 8-747 5-20 PM PST = RH ] me « Y_AUTRECTOR AND SAC, CHICAGO AND BUTTE URGENT |» 4 CELYING DISKS SIGHTED BY FREDACHRISMAN AND HARLD AXDAHL, TACOMA, Wey SM DASH X. REMYTEL AUGUST SIX, LAST CAPTIONED FLYING DISKS. HAROLD Ae DAHL AND FRED CHRISMAN, -TACOMA, IN SIGNED STATEMENT INSTANT DATE STATE THAT IN EARLY PART OF JUNE, LAST, rae! proKen UP SOME STRANGE ROCK FORMATIONS FROM A GRAVEL PIT, MAURI ISLAND, WASHINGTON. THEY STATE A CIGAR BOX OF THESE ROCK FORMATIONS THEY SENT TO RAYA PALMES YAPALMER » EDITOR OF VENTURE MAGAZINE IN EVANSTON, ILLINOIS. THEY STATE PLAMER IS ALSO EDITOR OF FANTASY MAGAZINE, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. THEY STATE THEY REQUESTED PALMER ONLY TO MAKE A CHEMICAL ANALYSIS OF THE ROCK FORMATION. DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE PALMER LATER WROTE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SAMPLES STATING HE HAD BEEN UNABLE TO ANALYZE THE MATERIAL. DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE PALMER, A FEW DAYS AFTER THE FLYING DISK STORIES STARTED THE LATTR PART OF JUNE, LAST, CONTACTED THEM BY PHONE AT TACOMA, WASHINGTON, SAYING HE WOULD PAY FOR AN EXCLUSIVE STORY IF THE MATERIAL WHICH THEY HAD SENT HIM WAS FRAGMENTS OF A FLYING DISK. DAHL STATES HE WROTE PALMER A ETTER IN WHICH HE STATEI HE MATERIA Of AR F A FLYING Ke DAHL LETTER IN WHI 1E STATED TH. AT Rebbabis le race ay 34 DE AND CHRISMAN ADMIT THIS STATEMENT WAS ENTIREY FALSE ~DAHIVAND CHRISMAN STATE THEY WERE CALLED BY KENNETRYMARNOLD OF BOUSE/ IDAHO TO-MEET WITH ay op X HIM AT THE WHITHROP HOTEL, TacowAy\ AEH INCTONS ON JULY THIRTYFIRST, ; LAST. © THEY STATE ARNOLD CALLED/ IN ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS FROM

PAGE TWO HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFORNIA, AND CAPTAIN EMIL HXSuITH OF UNITED AIR LINES, SEATTLE, WASHINGTON TO ATTEND THE MEETING. DAHL AND CHRISMAN CLAIM THEY TOLD THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS, CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTEN- ANT BROWN, AS WELL AS KENNETH ARNOLD AND EMLZXSMITH EXACTLY HOW THEY GOT THE ROCK FORMATIONS AND THAT THEY HAD NO CONNECTION WITH ANY FLYING DISK. DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THEY FURNISHED SOME OF THE ROCK FORMATION TO THE INTELLIGENT OFICERS AS SAMPLES. CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTEANT BROWN LEFT TACOMA, WASHINGTON IN A B TWENTY FIVE TO RETURN TO HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFORNIA ABOUT TWO THIRTY Ae Me AUGUST ONE, LAST, AND WERE KILLED WHEN THEIR PLANE CRASHED AT KELSO, WASHINGTON, AFTER THE LEFT ENGINE BURNED OUT AN EXHAUST STACK WHICH IN TURN CAUGHT THE LEFT WING ON FIRE AND IT BROKE OFF. THE CREW CHIEF AND EACH OFFICER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY. ERNIZAVOTEL, ASSOCIATED PRESS WIREMAN, TACOMA, ADVISED THAT TWO OR THREE DAYS AFTER THE FLYING DISK STORIES STARTED, HE CONTACTED DAHL TO CHECK A STORY THE SEATTLE POST INTELLIGENCER HAD COTEN Fi THE FIRE CHIEF AT HARBOR, WASHINGTON, TO THE EFFECT THAT DAHL HAD SOME FLYING DISK FRAGMENTS. AT THIS TIME DAHL ADMITTED TO VOGEL THE ENTIRE STORE WAS FALSE. DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE ARNOLD WAS PAID BY RAY PALMER OF THE FANTASY MAGAZINE AND POSSIBLY THE BOISE STATEMANS Sax NEVsPAgR, TO COME TO TACOMA, WASHINGTON AND OBTAIN A STORY FROM QHEM REGARDING THE FLYING DISK FRAGMENTS. THEY FURTHER STATE “THAT. EMIL, He SMITH HAD A

@ b | ig : PAGE THREE FRIEND ON THE CHICAGO TIMES AND WAS POSSIBLY SELLING TINE STORY TO fe oe TIMES THROUGH THIS FRIEND. A CHECK OF THE Heors AT THE MEIBECE HOTEL, TACOMA WHERE ARNOLD HAD HIS ROOM, REFLECT THAT ON JULY THIRTY FIRST, LAST, ARNOLD CALLED PALMER AT A. Ne FIVE TWO NAUGHT NAUGT, EVANSTON, ILLINOIS, COLLECT, AND ALSO CALLED NAUGHT ONE NAUGHT NINE J AT BOISE, IDAHO, COLLECT. ON AUGUST ONE, LAST, ARNOLD CALLED PALMER AT NEN FIVE TWO NAUGHT NAUGHT CHICAGO, COLLECT, AND EMIL SMITH CALLED praniffonvy AT DEARBORN TWO THREE TWO THREE. ON JULY THIRTY FIRST AND AUGUST ONE, LAST, A TOTAL OF FIVE ANONYMOUS CALLS WERE RECEIVED BY A TACOMA TIMES REPORTER AND THE UNITED PRESS WIRE MAN AT Taga, GIVING IN- FORMATION REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP HOTEL OVER THE DISK FRAGMENTS AND STATING THAT THE B TWENTY FIVE HAD BEEN SHOT DOWN OR SABOTAGED WHICH KILLED CAPTAIMMUAVIDSON AND LIEUTEANPEEROWN INFERRING \ @ THAT THIS WAS DONE BECAUSE THE ee OFFICERS WERE CARRYING DISK FRAGMENTS IN THEIR PLANE. DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THESE CALLS COULD ONLY HAVE COME FROM THEMSELVES, SMITH OR ARNOD, AND DENY THAT THEY MADE THE CALLS. NO RECORD OF THE CALLS AS HAVING BEEN MADE FROM ARNOLD-S ROOM IN THE WINTHROP HOTEL CAN BE LOCATED. DAHL AND CHRISMAN ARE-EVASIVE AS TO JUST WHAT INFORMATION THEY DID FURNISH BY PHONE OR LETTER TO RAY PALMER. ERNIE VOGEL, UNITED PRESS WIRE MAN 3, TACOMA » WASHINGTON, STATE IT APPEARS THE BOISE STATEMAN=S PAPER AND 3KENNETH ARNOLD HAVE

ce ¢ q = PAGE FOUR BEEN PUSHING THE PUBLICITY ON THE FLYING DISK STORIES. VOGEL STATES THAT ARNOLD WAS Eifirr THE FIRST OR ONE OF THE FIRST TO CLAIM HE HAD SEEN FLYING DISKS. DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THAT ARNOLD ADMITTED RE- CEIVING MONEY FROM RAY PALMER to COME To TACOMA TO CHECK THE DISK STORY. UNLESS ADVISED TO THE CONTRARY BY THE BUREAU, THE BUTTE OFFICE AT BOISE, IDAHO, WILL OBTAIN ALL INFORMATION REGARDING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE BOISE STATEMAN-S PAPER AND KENNNETH ARNOLD. WILL INTERVIEW KENNETH ARNOLD, ROUTE ONE, MOUNTAIN VIEW DRIVE, BOISE FOR WHAT INFORMTIQY HE HAS AS TO THE ABOVE FACTS AND WHAT INFORATION HE FURNISHED RAY PALMER AND THE BOISE STATEMAN REGARDING THE TACOMA MEETING AND THE SABOTAGE OF THE B TWENTYFIVE. THE CHICAGO OFFICE AT CHICAGO WILL INTERVIEW RAY PALMER, EDITOR OF FRANTASY MAGAZINE, REGARDING HIS CONNECTIONS WITH DAHL AND CHRISMAN AND ARNOLD AND WHAT INFORMATION EACH FURNISHED TO HIM. WILL ALSO ATTEMPT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT INFORMATION CAPTAIN EMIL H. SMITH FURNISHED THE CHICAGO TIMES. THE SEATTLE OFFICE AT SEATTLE WILL INTERVIEW EMIL H. SMITH, THREE NAUGHT TWO SEVEN WEST LAURELHNURST DRIVE ALONG THESE SAME LINES. WILL ALSO ASCERTAIN WHAT INFORMATION THE FIRE CHIEF AT ~*aeasammmmex HARBOR, WASHINGTON OTAINED FROM DAHL AND CHRISMAN. WILCOX i ACK IN ORD PLS ‘ f po . < iv A o WA 9-39 PM OK FBI WASH DC VH es "ny Zi Oia CG OK FBI cG MDG CHC: BT OK FBI BT VGW DISC PLS

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i PAGE TWO 3 wee OUT TO MAURI ISLAND WITH CRISMAN AND DAHL ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, AUGUST FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD, BUT WERE PUT OFF BY CHRISMAN af) Dain FOR VARIOUS REASONS, SMITH STATES THAT REPORTERPTANTZ OF TACOMA TIMES ANDWMORELLO OF UNITED PRESS OFFICE TACOMA INFORMED HIM AND ARNOLD OF THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS , AND FROM ACCCURACY OF THE INFO TRANSMITTED BY THESE ANONYMOUS CALLS, SMITH BELIEVES THEY WERE MADE BY EITHER DAHL OR CHRISMAN. iru ADMITS CALLING HIS PERSONAL FRIEND MAURICE PROBDY AVIATION EDIT@R OF CHICAGO TIMES, ON FRIDAY, AUGUST FIRST LAST, TO INFORM HIM OR THE TACOMA INCIDENT AS PER A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THEM THAT SMITH WOULD LET RODDY IN ON ANY FLYING DISC STORIES WHICH HE MIGHT RUN ; INTO. SMITH ALSO ADMITS THAT HE TOLD REPORTER JOHNSON OF IDAHO STATESMA) IN TELEPHONE CONVERSATION SATURDAY NIGHT, AUGUST SECOND LAST, THAT CAPTARA DAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROWN WERE CARRYING FRAGMENTS WITH THEM ON THEIR FATAL FLIGHT. SMITH SAYS THAT DAHL TOLD HIM ON SATURDAY NITE AUGUAT SECOND LAST THAT HE, DAHL, IF CONTACTED BY THE ARMY OR OTHER AUTHORITIES jos GOING TO SAY THAT THE ENTRRE STORY WAS A HOAX. SMITH STATES THAT \pre TOLD HIS COMPLETE STORY TO MAJOR SANDERS OF MCCORD FIELD, TACOMA, ON | SUNDAY @@ MORNING , AUGUST THIRD @@ LAST, AND THAT ARNOLD LEFT TACOMA. UNLESS ADVISED TO CONTRARY, LANTZ AND MORELLO WHO ARE BOTH TACOMA NEWSPAPERMEN MENTIONED ABOVE, WILL NOT BE CONTACTED FOR VERIFICATION . OF 9@™K SMITHS STORY ABOVE. UNABLE TO LOCATE FIRE CHIEF OF HARBOR, WN.! TO Sentry INFORMATION <M RECEIVED BY HIM FROM DAHL AND CHRISMAN. SINCE THI ICZNATEN IN SEATTLE @@M% POST- INTELLIGENCER NEWS~- PAPER THI ING DISCONTINEED UNLES ED. 1 TRAYY « AS OUTLINED -SamgmmK ABOVE WILL BE FORWAREDE WMS) tURDRRSAU. pa WILCOX "ACK IN ORDER PLS WA 10-30 PM OK FBI WA Bb : @ZM OK FBI CG DBR OK FBI BT HEW fo

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Office Memorandum + onxrep stares GOVERNMENT , TO : Mr. Js P. count , DATE: 9/17/17 \ From : W. Ve. Cleveland ie cg suBJECT: Mrs. A. G\Sarbanis i Rese Infornant — ie Greco ——— ie: Gurnss—— ir Harbe. You will recall that a letter was received from the i: rumor above captioned individual dated July 10, 1947, in which she ‘ieytm— inclosed a newspaper clipping signed "Radio Ham." This news- lis eiee—— Paper clipping contained a coded message which Mrs. Sarbanis § ———— decoded. The FBI Laboratory checked Mrs. Sarbanis' decoding of this message and advised that it was substantially correct. The Laboratory's decoding of the message is being set forth below: "TIRED OF HUMAN NONSENSE WONT AWAIT ATQUIC WAR DISRUPTING ORDER SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT FLYING DISKS AND WILL SET UP WORLD ORDER UNDER MARTIANS TATE THIS YEAR." The New York Office was asked to interview Mrs. Sarbanis to determine from what newspaper the clipping in question was obtained. They were further instructed to contact this newspaper in an effort to ascertain the identity of the person who sent in the coded message, in order that the person might be interviewed for information mw neerning the alleged receipt of the coded message. By letter dated September lh, 197, the New York Office advised that they had ascertained from Mrs. Sarbanis that the coded “message had appeared in "Newsday," the local newspaper of Nassau and Suffolk County, Long Island, New York. The City Editor of this news- paper stated that the original had been signed only "Radio Ham" and knew of no way of determining the identity of the writer. It was the City Editor's opinion that the code had been made up by some local "screwball" who had been affected by all of the newspaper publicity that had been given to stories concerning "flying discs." The FBI Laboratory has now advised that the FCC maintains their amateur records by a geographical breakdown as well as by call letters and that the Laboratory could possibly get the names of ail amateurs in the Bellmore, Long Island, New York Section in the event it is desired that another attempt be made to identify the person who sent this coded message to the "Wewsday. “y yi e y WY RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended nga further action be taken in connection with this matter in view Ws the opinion expressed by the City Editor of the "Newsday" that the letter reteived*by hin signed "Radio Ham" was from some local "screwball." no { ‘ / nN nr AVC tgh o 7 49 AD / VW i em \ oe yr Ui 105%0=2270 / ‘ or \> e Y (ry Py / ¥ ,

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« ' -CONFIDENTIAE- . 4 cI-B1 4 : Office of § Paistent Chief of Staff, A=2. ———---Hamilton Field, California ‘Tre Flying Discs. InvestiGation Mave at..Palm.Springs,.Calif.,.Boise,.. Idaho, and Hamilton Field, California. a Conrrotunc orrice..Air Defense Command... Fiz No. D33325 ID (4AF=-1208-1) Penson coverep From.10 Jul 47 +o .18 Jul 470. Cass cuassirication Incident Dare ......18 July 1947 00 Srarus oF cAsE -.... Pending etre AR ree, REASON FOR INVESTIGATION: Investigation initiated at the request of Headquarters Air Defense Command reference letter Headquarters Air Defense Command, dated 7 July 47, File D333.5 ID, subject: Investigation of Flying Discs. SYNOPSIS; Flying \Pises first reported in this area 24 June 1947 near Mt. Rainier, Wash., by Kenneth i) \urnola (Incl 1, Exhibit A) Unidentified object reported 9 July 1947 at approximately 1277 near Boise, Idaho, by David Na Johnson, Aviation Editor, Idaho Daily Statesman. (Incl 2, Exhibit B) Unidentified objects reported by Capt. E. aXgnith, United Air Lines Pilot, 4 July 1947, eight minutes out of Boise, Idaho. (Incl 3 MOIC, Incl 7 News Clippings dated 5 July 1947) Record check of law enforcement agencies, public utilities, and local residences revealed no record of Richard\Rankin in Palm Springs. (Inel 4) Unidentified objects reported 8 July 1947 at 1245, traveling northeast over Hamilton Field by S/Sgt Edward RA Bakery (Incl 5, Exhibit I) Unidentified objects reported over Grand Canyon, Arizona, 0910 MST by Lt. W. G. \ecinty, USN (Incl 6) and in vicinity of Lake Mead by Lt. E. | Armstrong, Hq Tenth Air Force, Brooks Field, Texas. (Incl 6). \ \ Extent of publicity in local area indicated by press clippings. (Incl 7) DistriBution Cortes APPROVED: AAF 2 y DONALD L. SPRINGER Seer, Se ROB i a i © Ere TL - — 7 ost i | u. S. DE Ime u ‘W.D., P.M. G. Form No. 110 -CONEIDENTIAL nse sur Iwi. 0-6. S, Form No. 19, whieh Sg hee pospocs Peldeclthinhy febopeba fag | é

> TRATII i A Incident 4AP 1208 I 16 July 1947 * a MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: le On 12 July 1947, Mr. Kenneth Arnold, Box 387, Boise, Idaho, was interviewed in regard to the report by Mr. Arnold that he saw 9 strange objects flying over the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington State on July 25th. Mr. Arnold voluntarily agreed to give the interviewer j & written report of exactly what he had geen on the above mentioned date. The written report of Mr. Arnold is attached to this report as Exhibit A, AGENT'S NOTES: Mr. Arnold is a man of 32 years of age, being married and the father of two children. He is well thought of in the community in which he lives, being very much the family man and from all appearances & very good provider for his family. Mr. Arnold has recently purchased a home on the outskirts of Boise, recently purchased a $5,000 airplane in which to conduct his business to the extent of which is explained in the attached exhibit. It is the personal opinion of the interviewer thet Mr. Arnold actually saw what he stated that he saw, It is difficult to believe that a man of Mr. Arnold's character and apparent integrity would state that he saw objects and write up & report to the extent that he did if he did not see them. To go further, if Mr. Arnold can write a report of the character that he did while not having seen the objects that he claimed he saw, it is the opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Arnold is in the wrong business, that he should be writing Buck Rogers fiction. Mr. Arnold is | very outspoken and somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the UeS. Army Air Forces and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for not having made an investigation of this matter sooner. To put all of the statements made by Mr. Arnold in this report would make it a voluminous volume. However, after having checked an aeronautical map of the area over which Mr. Arnold claims that he saw the objects it was determined that all statements made by Mr. Arnold in regard to the distances involved, speed of the objects, course of the objects and size of the objects, could very possibly be facts. The distances mentioned by Mr. Arnold in his report are within a short distance of the actual distances on aeronautical charts of this area, although Mr. Arnold has never consulted aeronautical charts of the type the Army uses. Mrs Arnold stated that his business had suffered greatly since his report on July 25 due to the fact that at every stop on his business routes, large groups of people were waiting to question him as to just what he had seen. Mrs Arnold stated further that if he, at any time in the future, sew anything in the sky, to quote Mr. Arnold directly, "if I saw a ten story building ee eaten s DINITIALG

UilaIN i ifiiy — | a CB, ~~, Vv Incident \ 4AF 1208 I flying through the air I would never say a word about it", due to the fact that he has been ridiculed by the press to such an extent that he is practically a moron in the eyes of the majority of the population of « the United States, 1 Incl: Exhibit "A" | FRANK M. BROWN, S/A, CIC 4th AP f RIDITNORTIAIL 4

Rape oe FSOME LIFE DATA ON KENNETH ARNOLD ~ - e I was born March 29, 1915 in-Subeka, Minnesota. My father's name was Edward Erb Arnold; my mother's maiden name was Bertha E. Barden. I was a resident of Minnesota until I was six years old when my family moved to Scobey, Montana, where they homesteaded. My grandfather, Roland ©. Arnold also homesteaded in Scobey, Montana, and became quite prominent in political circles along with Burton K. Wheeler, the famous Montana senatore I went to grade school and high school at Minot, North Dakota. I entered scouting at twelve years of age and achieved the rank of Eagle scout before I was fourteen. My former scout executive was H. H. Prescott, now a regional commissioner for the Boy Scouts in Kensas City, Kansas. As a boy, I was interested in athletics and was selected as an all- state end in 1932 and 1933 in the state of North Dakota. I entered the U. S. Olympic trials in fency diving in 1932; I was a Red Cross Life Saving Examiner during the years of 1932, '33 and '34. I taught swimming and diving at scout camps and the municipal pool in Minot, North Dakota. I went to the University of Minnesots, where I swam and did fency diving under Neils Thorpe, and also played football under Bernio Bierman, but upon entering college I was unable to continue my football career because of an injured knee. My high school football coach was Glenn L. Jarrett, who is now the head football coach of the University of North Dakota. I had little or no finances, and my ambition in furthering my edication in college was through my’ athletics. As a boy in Minot, North Dakota, I did @ good deal of dog sled racing, placed first with my dog in 1930 in the Lions Club Dog Derby. In 1938 I went to work for Red Comet, Inc. of Littleton, Colorado, a \ manufacturer of automatic fire fighting apparatus. In 1939 I was made district manager for them over a part of the western states, and in 1940 I \ established my own fire control supply known as the Great Western Fire a Céntrol Supply. I have been working as an independent fire control engineer since, and I handle, distribute, sell and install all types of automatic and manual fire fighting equipment in the rural areas over five western states. My flying experience started as a boy in Minot, North Dakota, where I took my first flying lesson from Earl T. Vance, who was originally from Great Falls, Montane. Due to the high cost at that time, I was unable to continue my flying and did not fly of any great consequence until 1943, I was given my pilot certificate by Ed Leach, a senior CAA inspector of Portland, Oregon, and for the last three years have owned my ow airplane covering my entire territory with same and flying from forty to one hundred hours per month since. Due to the fact that I use an airplane entirely in my work, in January of this year I purchased a new Callair airplane, which is en airplane designed for high altitude take-offs and short rough field use. In the type of flying I do, it takes e great deal of practice and { judgment to be able to land in most eny cow pasture and get out without injuring your aiplane; the runways are very limited and the altitude is very high in some of the fields and places I have to go in my work. To date, I have landed in 823 cow pastures in mountein meadows, and in over = & thousand hours a flat tire has been my greatest mishap. DORI

WRIDIDDRIS , a Vi LIN its 4 . heey BY KENNETH ARNOLD my The following story of what I observed over the Cascade mountains, as impossible as it may seem, is positively true. I never asked nor wanted any notoriety for just accidently being in the right spot at the right time to observe what I did. I reported something that I know any pilot would have reported. I don't think that in any way my observation was due to any sensivity of eye sight or judgment than what is considered normal for any pilot. On June 24th, Tuesday, 1947, I had finished my work for the Central Air Service at Chehalis, Washington, and at about two o'clock Itpok off from Chehalis, Washington, airport with the intention of going to Yakima, Wash. My trip was delayed for an hour to search for a large marine transport that supposedly went down near or around the southwest side of Mt. Rainier in the state of Washington and to date has never been found. I flew directly toward Mt. Rainier after reaching en altitude of about 9,500 feet, which is the approximate elevation of the high plateau from which . Mt. Reinier rises. I had made one sweep of this high plateau to the westward, searching all of the various ridges for this marine ship and flew to the west down and near the ridge side of the canyon where Ashford, Washington, is located. Unable to see anything that looked like the lost ship, I made a 360 degree turn to the right and above the little city of Mineral, starting again toward Mt. Rainier. I climbed back up to an altitude of approximately 9,200 feet. The air was so smooth that day thet it was a real pleasure flying and, as most pilots do when the air is smooth and they are flying at a higher altitude, I trimmed out my airplane in the direction of Yakima, Washington, which was almost directly east of my position and simply ‘sat in my plane ob- serving the sky and the terrain. There was a DC-4 to the left and to the rear of me approximately fifteen miles distance, and I should judge, at 14,000 foot elevation. The sky and air was as clear as crystal. I hadn't flown more than two or three minutes on my course when a bright flash reflected on my airplane. It startled me as I thought I was too close to some other air- crafte I looked every place in the sky and couldn't find where the reflec- tion had come from until I looked to the left and the north of Mt. Rainier x where I observed a chain of nine peculiar looking aircraft flying from north to south at approximately 9,500 feet elevation and going, seemingly, in a definite direction of about 170 degrees. They were approaching Mt. Rainier very rapidly, and I merely assumed they were jet planes, Anyhow, I discovered that this was where the reflec- tion had come from, as two or three of them every few seconds would dip or change their course slightly, just enough for the sun to strike them at an angle that reflected brightly on my plane. These objects being quite far away, I was unable for a few seconds to make out their shape or their formation. Very shortly they approached Mt. Rainier, and I observed their outline against the snow quite plainly. I thought it was very peculiar that I couldn't find their tails but assumed they were some type of jet plane. I was determined to clock their speed, as I had two definite points I could clock them by; the air was so clear that it was very easy to see objects and determine their approximate shape and size at almost fifty miles that day. 4 I remember distinctly that my sweep second hand on my eight day clock, which is located on my instrument panel, read one minute to 3 P.M. as the first object of this formation passed the southern edge of Mt. Rainier. I watched these objects with great interest as I had never before observed IGIDENT AT

, . ANIDIN EY? Cr IVE TDoIviirs ol) ~ “3 lias: v x airplanes flying so close to the mountain tops, flying directly south to southeast down the hog's back of a mountein range. I would estimate their elevation could have varied a thousand feet one way or another up or dow, but they were pretty much on the horizon to me which would indicate they were near the seme elevation as I was. They flew like many times I have observed geese to fly in a rather diagonal chain-like line as if they were linked together. They seemed to hold a definite direction but rather swerved in and out of the high mountain peaks. Their speed at the time did not impress me particularly, because I knew thet our army and air forces had planes that went very faste What kept bothering me as I watched them flip and flash in the sun right along their path was the fact that I couldn't make out any tail on them, and I am sure that eny pilot would justify more than a second look at such a plane. I observed them quite plainly, and I estimate my distance from them, which was almost at right angles, to. be between twenty to twenty-five miles. el, I knew they must be very large to observe their shape at thet distance, even on as clear a day as it was that Tuesday. In fact I compared a zeus fastener or cowling tool I hed in my pocket with - holding it up on them and holding it up on the DC-4 - that I could observe at quite a distance to my left, and they seemed smaller than the DC-4; but, I should judge their span woule have been as wide es the furtherest engines on each side of the fuselage of the DC-4. The more I observed these objects, the more upset I became, as I an accustomed and familiar with most all objects flying whether I am close to the ground or at higher altitudes. I observed the chain of these objects passing another high snow-covered ridge in between Mt. Rainier and Mt. Adams, and as the first one was passing the south crest of this ridge the lest object was entering the northern crest of the ridge. As I was flying in the direction of this particular ridge, I measured it and found it to be epproximately five miles so I could safely assume thet the chain of these saucer like objects were at least five miles long. I could quite accurately determine their pathway due to the fact that there were several high peaks that were a little this side of them as well as higher peaks on the other side of their pathway. As the lest unit of this formation passed the southern most high snow- covered crest of Mt. Adams, I looked at my sweep second hand and it showed thet they had travelled the distence in one minute and forty-two seconds. Even et the time this timing did not upset me as I felt confident after I would land there would be some explanetion of what I sawe A mumber of news men and experts suggested that I might heve been seeing reflections or even a mirege. This I know to be absolutely false, as I observed these objects not only through the glass of my airplane but turned my airplane sideways where I could open my window and observe theg with a completely unobstructed view. (Without sun glasses) Even though two minutes seems like a very short time to one on ground, in the eir in two minutes time a pilot can observe a great things and anything within his sight of vision probably as many 8 sixty tines. I continued my search for the marine plane for another twenty minutes and while searching for this marine plane, wi observed kept going through my mind. I became more distu: taking & last look at Tieton Reservoir I headed for Yak. information on the document. -— t UOUINI Lit Viiss

MARITIME o“~ aN : goxri FRAN TL ifs . } ore 7 : “. oy my i, C I might add thet my complete obseryation of these objects, which I 4 could even follow by their flashes as they passed Mt. Adams, was around two and onewhalf or three minutes -=- although, by the time they reached Mt. Adams they were out of my range of vision es far as determining shape or form. Of course, when the sun reflected from one or two or three of these units, they appeared to be completely round; but, I am keing a drewing to the best of my ability, which I am including, as to the shape I observed these objects to be as they passed the snow covered ridges as woll as Mt. Rainior. When these objects were flying approximately streight end level, they were just a black thin line and when they flipped was the only time I could get a judgment as to their size. These objects were holding an almost Gomstant elevation; they did not seem to be going up or to be coming down, SWCGH @S would be the case of rockets or artillery shells. I am convinced in my Gwm mind thet they were some type of airplane, even though they didn't conform with the many aspects of the conventional type of planes that I know. Although these objects have been reported by many other observers throughout the United States, there have be@m six @r seven other accounts written by some of these observers that I can truthfully sey must have ob= servied fhe seme thing thet I did; pertiqulemhy, the descriptions of the three Sostorn/Afe ties ientiShoes, eno /ebbteede from Oklahone City and the locomo- tive engineer in Illinois, plus Capt Smith and ComPilot Stevens of United Air Lines. Some descriptions could not be very accurate: taken from the ground unless these saucer-like disks were at quite a great Height and there is a possiblity that all of the people who observed peculiar objeets sould have seen the seme thing I dids; but, it would have been very diffieult from the ground to observe these for more than four or five seconds, and there is @lweys the possibility of atmospheric moisture and dust near the ground whieh Gould distort one's vision. I heave in my possession letters from all o¥er the United States and people who profess that these objects have been observed over other portions of the world, principally Sweden, Bermuda, and Californias I would have given almost anything that dey $0 have hed a movie camera with a telephoto lens and from now on I will never be without one - - but, to continue further with my story. When I landed at the Yakima, Wash., airport I described what I had seen to my very good\/friend, \Al Baxter, who listened patiently and was very courteous but in a joking wey didn't believe me. I did not accurately measure the distance/Pfeon, these two mountains until I landed at Pendleton, Oregon, that same day where ZI told a number of pilot friends of mine what I had observed and they di@ mot scoff or laugh but suggested they might be guided missiles or something new. Im fact several former Army pilots informed me that they had been briefed before going into combat overseas that they might see objects of similar Shape @nd design as I described and assured me thet I wasn't dreaming or going Crazy. I quote Sonny Robinson, a former Army Air Forces pill®& who is now opera= ting dusting operations at Pendleton, Oregon, “Wheat you Observed, I am con- i vinced, is some type of jet or rocket propelled ship that i6 am the process xed oe of being tested by our government or even it could possibly be by, some roreigisiiaties government. pie ort Anyhow, the news that I had observed these spread very rapialy and ca before night was over I was receiving telephone calls fromall parts of the world; and, to date I have not recsived one telephone Gall OF one Jebter of scoffing or disbelief. The only disbelief that I lmow of was what was printed in the papers. xa T look at this whole ordeal es not something funny as Beme people have made it out to be. To me it is mighty serious and since I e¥idently did TLINe AL I 3 NT Vit

P DW oarmmys ax C VY | 7 anes 2 \ 4 observe something that at least lr. John Doe on the street corner or Pete Andrews on the ranch has never heard about, is no reason that it does not exist. Even though I openly invited an investigation by the Army and the ° FBI as to the authenticity of my story or a mental or a physical examination as to my capabilities, I have received no interest from these two important protective forces of our country; I will go so far as to assume that any report I gave to the United and Associated Press and over the radio on two different occasions which apparently set the nation buzzing, if our Military Intelligence was not aware of what I observed, they would be the very first people that I could expect as visitors. I have received lots of requests from people who told me to make a lot of wild guesses. I have based what I have written here in this article on positive facts and as far as guessing what it was I observed, it is just as much ‘a mystery to me as it is to the rest of the world. My pilot's license is 333487, I fly a Calleir airplane; it is a three- place single engine lend ship that is designed and manufactured at Afton, Wyoming as an extremely high performance, high altitude airplane that was made for mountain work. The national certificate of my plane is 33355. /s/ Xenneth Arnold Box 587 Boise, Idaho Trameling af v sites eat capisa St ~\ / NG / F dt * 3 / ° iets \— = They seemed longer than wide, their thickness was about 1/20th of their width ee <— a 7 at| \ eee" 7 Ni Mirror Bright si They\did not appear to me to whirl or spin but seemed in fixed position, traveling as I have made drawing. ’ /s/ Kenneth Arnold \ IAGCAlTT AI ECON DTHAIN iI tit

‘ - DIDIER TIAT é Sup t bed Es 5 : Incident 4AF 1208 I 16 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: 1. On 12 July 1947, a call was made at the newspaper office of the "Idaho Daily Statesman", Boise, Idaho. The aviation editor of the paper, Mr. David N. Johnson, was interviewed in regard to how well he knew Mr. Kenneth Arnold of Boise, Idaho, and as to the coredibility of any statement made by Mr. Arnold. The purpose of this interview was an attempt to verify statements made by Mr. Kenneth Arnold on 26 June 1947, to various national news services to the effect that he, Mr. Arnold, had seen 9 objects flying in the air above the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington. These objects were subsequently referred to as flying saucers or flying disks and will here-in-after be referred to as such in this report. Mr. Johnson stated that he had know Mr. Arnold for quite ea period of time, having had relations with Mr. Arnold on various occasions, due to the fact that both HeyeMreevohnson, and Mr. Arnold were private fliers and frequently got together to talk shop. Mr. Johnson stated thet as far as he was concerned anything “r. Arnold said could be teken very seriously and that he, Mr. Johnson, actually believed that Mr. Arnold had seen the aforementioned flying diskss!\Mr. Johnson stated that after Mre Arnold reperted having seen the flying disks, that the editor of the paper had assigned him, Mr. Johnson, the assignment of taking the airplene belonging to the newspaper and exhausting all efforts to prove or disprove the probebility of flying disks having been seen in the northwest. area. The results of this assigumont to Mr. Johnson and what he subsequently saw is put forth in a sworn statement signed by Mr. Johnson attached to this report as Exhibit ¥, AGENT'S NOTES: Mrs Johnson is a man of approximately 33, to 35 years of agee From all appearances he is a very reserved type of persone) Mr. Johnson has Logged 2800 hours of flying time in various typas of airplanes up to and imeluding multi-engine aircraft. During part of the war years, Mr. Johnson was the first pilot of a B-29 type aircraft being assigned to the Twentieth USAAF and stationed on Tinian Island, in the Pacifie. It is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Johnson actually saw what he states that he saw in the attached report. It is also the opinion of the interviewer thet lir. Johnson would have much more to lose than gain and would have to be very strongly convinced that he actually saw something before he would report such an incident end open himself for the ridicule that would accompany such ea report. 1/Tmel: Exhibit "5" PRANK M. BROWN, S/A, CIC th AF TINTALTIT y : TN i ee

@ a oe wh) » . Statement of David N. Johnson yy at Boise, Ideho, July 12, 1947 : To Whom It May Concern: On the sixth day of July, 1947, I received from James Le 3rown, general manager of the Statesman Newspapers, incorporated in Idaho as The Statesman Printing company, an assignment which was in substance: “Conduct an serial search of the northwest states in an effort to see and photograph a flying disc. Conduct this patrol for so long a time as you believe reasonable, or until you see a flying disce” In accordance to these instructions, I took the Statesman's airplane, and with Kenneth Arnold as passenger, flew a seven and one-half hour mission on the seventh dey of July, 1947. This mission was without result. It covered an area embracing the confines of the Hanford plant in Washington, and territory between and around Mé. Rainier and Mt. Adams, where Arnold first reported seeing objects henceforth described as saucers or discs. On the eighth day of July, 1947, I took an AT-6 of the 190th Fighter squadron, Idaho National Guard, of which I am a member, and flew to northern Idaho, into northwestern Montana briefly, to Spokane, Washington, and back to Boise by way of Walla Walle, Washington, and Pendleton, Oregon. This search also was negative. On the ninth day of July, 1947, I continued the search, again using a national guard AT-6, this time centering my efforts over the Owyhee mountains west and southwest of Boise, a portion of the Mountain Home desert on a track southeast of the Mountain Home army air base, thence into the Sawtooth moun- tains, and back in the general direction of Boise on a line carrying me well to the north of the Shafer butte forest service lookout station, into the Horseshoe Bend area, and thence back in a southwesterly direction to a point between Boise and the village of Meridian, west of Boise a few miles. During this earch, which lested approximately two and one-half hours, I flew under and around rapidly forming cumulus clouds over that area lmown as the Camas Prairie, east of Boise. The clouds were near the village of Fairfield in that valley, and Fairfield is 75 miles airline distance east of Boise. At that time I saw nothing in the vicinity of these clouds. At the time I reached the point between Boise and Meridian, I was flying at an altitude of 14,000 feet mean sea level, which would be a mean average of 11,000 feet above the earth in this area, not considering errors in the altimeter induced either by barometric changes since my takeoff, or by the temperature at that altitude. I turned the aircraft on an easterly heading, pointing toward Gowen Field, and had flown on that course for perhaps a minute when there suddenly appeared in the left hand portion of my field of vision an object which was black and round. I immediately centered my gaze on the object. At that time, due to its erratic movement, I thought I was seeing a weather balloon. I called the CAA's communication station at Boise, and asked if the weather station had recently released a balloon. The reply from communicator Albertson was that the bureau had not. I do not remember his exact words; I am under the impression he said “not for several hours" or gave me the exact time of the previous release, which was around 08:30 that day. <NCLOSURE q 7

Arion? AT oO : 3 PAINE LIDS GiN DLA as : “= ~ afi) “ e « Upon hearing this response, I turned e aircraft broadside distortion, took my camera fr the map case, a exposed about 10 sec dq on of L llime ic > film. Duri © time the camera was at e level, 20u see e objec a pleted, was broke f at a ne Xr 4 . objec b> lat ly, t Z y- e piece. Id ver) rea l , its s 2 i - Py Sd PM. Sa ae oS pings great distance away. I reot t a y clock tod e sxact time I saw ject. 6 CAA's 1 ad 1 c si first c C . 8 por ewspaper, G e was on ass 5 rg efor we v d 1) trans- f F} one, s d ano Ars, a gative. pl i L dia afte 4 t object, asked i ther eX fe) r aifleoral 2 Cc ar . ! as oo > vl Cc °) AC - passed over ise, sa 7 aircraft ) at by so 2,000 saw t object, my request, co da search. vas gative. Duri 7 af oon, fl ts P-51 i t cover the area, negative. lines side of sn field, a on t ona ard side, observed a ow had SO 7 ouds reached a probable he of 19,000 or <0,000 feet from a mean base of 13,500 or 14,0 feet, san sea level. hree of these r e 1a guar erse¢ L a it c chem, a TIN TOONITTA SUIT 2 = ©

- ~~ v~ Ty saw it. ; This statement is made voluntarily and freely, in response to the request of Mr. Brown and Captain Davidson, who called on me this morning. /3s/ Davia N. Johnson Subscribed and sworn to before me, a notary public, this 12th day of July , 1947. /3/ Geo. L. Flaherty Notary public for Ada county Idaho. My commission expires Jan 2, 1949.

2D TINIGRITTAT : ~~ Chart to which reference is made on page six, statement of David N. Johnson Py ioe y _f w- --- aA ’ This design portrays the movements of the object to which reference is made in the attached statement. At all times the object appeared as black. Positions (1), (2) and (3) show the jerky, rising motion. Position (4) is where the object rolled, presenting its edge to me. It then followed the dotted line, rolling over the top of the maneuver and disappearing at position (5). TD m9 TAT 7 é

= . WANIGIDG 1’ (ey _ This image contains all the COS eee TTI to ; O~ information on the document. VE 1 Lis y saw t jec (fr t ro a) ile s my second search. to hotogr: I Lt. in al1 fra ness, was ired. nay ve been I woul 10t be so strc in sayin that I saw somethin 1 Q aircraft, ot a balloon, and not a corpuscle moving across the retina of ei oY Oo me convinces me that I saw an object actually performi in an picture film, developed a processed by . W. Stohr in the Eastman laboratories at 241 sattery Street, San Francisco, showed o trace of any object. Stohr says that if it was more than a mile distant from me at the size I described, the object would not have registered suffic- iently on the film to be shown. He said it probably was too far away to be apparent even through great enlargement of thennegative, and enlargement in that case is limited because of the size of the film and the fact I did not-have any telescopic equipment on the lense The exposure was f.16, stop set at infinity, at a speed of 16 frames per secona.e [ have worried over this matter a great deal since seeing it. [ took myself aside” and said, “come now, Johnson, do 5 be stupid ut I cannot bring myself to the point of thinking I did n see & new in e air whe saw that partial slow roll or barre! <= I trust this matter will be of help to those investigatt flying disc phenomena which have been reported. ANIDIDUEUNTIATL Vi DOIN iri

° ‘ WYRNIDIDO cine = tbe FINS LiJvisy Aitshis et - - Incident 4AF 1208 I 16 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: 1. On 12 July 1947, Captain Smith, of the United Airlines, was interviewed at the Boise Municipal Airport, Boise, Idaho. Captain Smith was passing through Boise on a schedule flight at the time and had a 20 minute stop-over. Captain Smith reiterated the statements originally made by him to the press as to what he had seen in the late evening of July 4th, when 8 minutes out of Boise on the route to Seattle, Washington. It is the opinion of the interviewer that due to the position Captain Smith occupies, that he, Captain Smith, would have to be very strongly convinced that he actually saw flying disks before he would open himself for the rid— icule attached to a report of this type. FRANK Me BROWN,S/A, CIC g?H AF GCONTRIDENI YE CUINDIDLIVE ~is

TARTIDITIARDRITLE I oN, cs TH bast iwie Beal A ae . Incident 4aF 1208 I 14 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: 1. On 10 July 1947, a chech was made at the following locations in Palm Springs, California for the purpose of trying to locate Ure Richard Rankin: Palm Springs Police Department, Palm Springs Newspaper, “The Desert Sun", Palm Springs Water Company, Southern California Gas Company, Palm Springs Telephone Company, Palm Springs Employment Office, Palm Springs Chamber of Commerce, Royal Palms Hotel, 5 Palm Spri ngs real estate offices, and the City Offices of Palm Springs inoluding waste disposal, water rights, tax records and etc. No record of Mr. Rankin existed in any of the above mentioned offices. 2. On 11 July 1947, Mr. Ryland M. Gorham, Postmaster of Palm Springs, California for the past 14 years was interviewed. lr. Gorham stated that he had lived in Palm Springs for the past 24 years and that he was unaware if a person named Richard Renkin had ever lived in Paln Springs. Mr. Gorham stated that due to the fact that Palm Springs is a resort area and due to the fact that in the summer months only 3 to 5 thousand people resided in Palm Springs, whereas in the winter months 10 to 12 thousand resided in Palm Springs, it was very possible that Mr. Renkin could have lived in Palm Springs more or less on a non-permanent status and he, Mr. Gorham, not being aware of ite A check of General Delivery records revealed a letter addressed to Mr. Richard Rankin, Palm Springs, mailed from Cicero, Indiana, postmarked at Cicero, Indiana, July 1947, at 5 P.M. The return address on the envelope was listed as the Gospel Tract Worker, Route 1, Cicero, Indienae Mr. Gorham permitted the contents of the envelope to be examined inasmuch as the contents was 3rd Class materiel end the envelope not sealed. The records were of a religious nature concerning the sad plight of American non=chureh goers, the second coming of Christ and ete. Superintendent of Mails was contacted by Mre Gorham and stated that there was a Mr. Richard Renkin who had received mail through the general delivery office of the Palm Springs Post Office, but that the last mail, other than the letter mentioned above, came through the Post Office approximately two years ago.™ The Superintendent of Mails seemed to have a very uncanny memory and recalled where the mail coming in for Rankin had been addressed to. This mail was addressed to lire Richard Renkin in care of a trailer camp located in Palm Springse On calling the trailer camp office, it was found that Mr. Richard Rankin had lived in the camp but departed approximately two years ago and left no forwarding address. Investigation is continuing in an effort to locate Mre Rankin and obtain a statement from hime FRANK Me BROWN,S/A, CIC 4th AF ys: See A]

Hon , LJisuiNiit Ee fr... g ees Oy. ~ 4 FLYING DIscs es ee 4AF-1208-1 ” : 15 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER I JHARGE? AAF BU (ORD), Squadron A, Hamilton Field, California, was interviewed and stated as follows: S/Sgt Baker has been in the Army ten years and two months, twenty-six months overseas duty in ‘the ETO, and has been in the Air Corps for about ten months. S/Sgt Baker stated that on 8 July 1947, he was going to Base Cleaners from his office and was passi along the sidewalk near the barracks of the ORD when he saw five or six Air Base, he paid no further attention to it until a lieutenant and a captain ahead of him stopped and pointed in the same direction. He stated that on glancing up he saw three objects traveling northeast across the sky. two seemed to be traveling faster than an ordinary flight of P-80s and he estimated the altitude between 8-10,000 feet and approximately 7-10 miles away. S/Sgt Baker stated that the two while the object in the rear seemed to be either rotating or rolling behind the other two. S/Sgt Baker stated that from a distance he could not tell exactly the shape of the one which was rolling as it appeared to be turning over and he couldn't tell whether the object was flat. get brighter and darker as it appeared to roll. he objects were in sight approximately four seconds. As he was in a hurry, he did not stop to talk to the other men but he heard one of tham remark that the one in the rear was certainly rolling fast. S/Sgt Baker was unable to ide tify any of the other men in the group who were reported to have seen the object. Baker stated that it was unlike a ry thing € had ever seen and illusion, and yet at the same time he is certain that he saw the objects as described. (See Exhibit I). OTE: S/Sgt Baker appears to be intelligent and is a reserved sort of person. He was very reluctant to discuss the subject at first and appeared-hesitant prompted by the possit ility that he might be ridiculed. e seemed to be honest and sincere in what he stated he saw, and said frankly he was puzzled over the matter. A signed statement by S/Sgt aker is attached. LL. Incls Exhibit I. WILLIAM L. DAVIDSON, Caz t, AC, OIC CI, 4AF : REE TP TOATEE Es

B FORM NO. 64 4 Office Nisa todo * UNITED : GOVERNMENT 65-481 : TO : Director FBI DATE: September 2, 1947 Regmon : SAC Butte AS ; SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS Zz ; wl Remytel August 20, 1947. " i With reference to. the above-described teletype, Mr. H. H,}|HEDSTROM, 322 Third Avenue North, Twin Falls, Idaho, was the principal source jof infor- matione Mre HEDSTROM, who is the Executive Director of the Twin Falls Housing Authority, explained that he and his wife and Mrs, HENRY\SHULTZ, a neighbor, were sitting on their front porch at approximately 9:30 Pe Mes| August 19, 1947, He said that Mrs. HEDSTROM suddenly shouted and pointed to sky and thereafter stated that she had seen an object traveling at a terrific rate of speed in a northeasterly direction, The object was out of sight before Mr. HEDSTROM and Mrse SHULTZ could see anythinge While they were discussing what Mrs. HEDSTROM had seen, approximately ven minutes later all three saw ten similar objects proceeding rapidly in the same direction in the form of a triangle. As the group of objects was dis- appearing, three of the objects on the left flank peeled off and proceeded in a more northerly direction, The remaining objects appeared to close ranks and proceeded in a northeasterly direction, From three to five minutes later these same individuals saw nother’ group of three objects proceeding in the same direction, and again in shape of a triangle, From three to five minutes later all three observed another group in a triangular formation consisting of five or six objects. They were proceeding in the same directions A few minutes later the three persons saw a large group of objects estimated at from thirty-five to fifty flying in a trienguler formation in the seme direction, Approximately twenty or twenty-five minutes after the large group of objects was observed, similar objects were noted coming back over the city in a southwesterly direction, These objects were generally in groups of three, five and seven and followed each other at approximately five minute inter- valse Mrse HEDSTROM called Detective RICHARD A, FRAZIER of the Twin Falls Police Department, a next door neighbor, who was then accompanied by Me Ee ROUNTREE and RICHARD SCOTT, also members of the Twin Falls Police Department. The three officers watched for a few minutes and observed a group of about twelve objects flying in formation over the city in a southwesterly direction, The members of the Police Department did not continue watching, although Mre FRAZIER later saw other groups, which were also seen by the HEDS and Mrse SHULTZ, Mrse SHULTZ had also,ca@lied her husband, who saw s a “ the objects. 270 NOV 18 1964 4 ” \y\ eon hae hi

BI 65-481 On the night in question the sky was overcast and the objects could not be seen closely; however, they were distinct enough so that all persons could observe what they described as a glow going through the air, They said that the objects appeared to be lighted from the inside and were of a color similar to regular electric lights, Detective FRAZIER and Mre HEDSTROM both stated that they could not be meteors or comets, that they flew on a level line and did not appear to drope They flew at a terrific rate of speed and were visible for only a few minutes at a tim. Both persons interviewed said that the objects could not have been geese or ducks and tht the lights were not a reflection of the city lights on some object or objectse None of the persms interviewed noticed any flames or anything except the glow of lightse None of the persons who claimed to have seen these objects were drinking at the time. No other persons in Twin Falls reported seeing the objects mentioned herein; however, Mr. HEDSTROM and Mre FRAZIER stated that it was purely by accident that they had seen the objects and that they would not have seen them unless they were looking for them, because of the speed at which they traveled. On account of the overcast sky they were unable to estimate the size of the objects or the height at which they flew. No further investigation is being conducted by the Butte Office, and the case is being closed, RJG:FO'S ‘ ge

Office Memorandum + unrrep states GOVERNMENT TO : Daregtor, FBI 2 Novae: September 4, 1947 ¥ ; We FROM : SAC, San Francisco ATRMAIL SPECIAL DELIVERY SUBJECT: REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS Enclosed is a copy of a letter dated August 28, 1947, from Lt. Col. DONALD L. SPRINGER of A-2, Hamilton Field, Calif., with an attachment referring to the sighting of a flying object by Captain JACK“PECK and his co-pilot, VINGR-DALY, near Bethel, Alaska. - Photostatic copies of this letter and attachment are being forwarded to the Anchorage Field Office. In accordance with Bureau Bulletin #42, dated July 30, 1947, Anchorage is requested to interview Captain JACK PECK and his co-pilot, VINCE DALY, preferably separately, in order to tain all details of their reported sighting of a flying object on August 4, 1947. The San Francisco Field Office should be furnished two copies of the results of these interviews for distribution to the Sixth Army Intelligence. DWK :MR 62-2938 Encls. ~ ee Anchorage (Encls.) ¥ AMSD g V4 RECORDED . he Bru INDEXED 5 ea f Ww \ “\, , pe C ale af ) 3 af Z i

" uy SIGAK 000 ALASKA COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, SIGNAL CORPS ACSAD 4 Seattle 4, Washington 19 August 1947 Subjects; Matters of National Interest Tos Commanding Genernl Fourth Air Force San Francisco, California The attached letter has been received from the NCOIC of the Alaska Communication System station at Bethel, Alaska. It is submitted for your informations ‘ For the Commanding Officer: /s/ Svend ©, Hensen SVEND C. HANSEN 1 Incl Captain, Signal Corps Cy ltr fr NCOIC Acting, Executive at Bethel to Hg, ACS, Segttle 53345/1208-1 lst Ind 4AFDA "0; Speeial Agent In Charge, PBI, U. S. Department of Justice, Room 422, Federal Office Building, 5 raneisco, California. 1 Incl, Lt. Colonel, GSC nf/e C of S, A-2 a DECLASSIFIED » assent Authorit CDERAL BU?) <0 OF IhUEeeepes uthority: DERI Bi A OF INVESTIGATION SEP<2 1947 } SAN Fr: Ke n ROUTED TO" == a FILE) j (2. NIT _~— i W- Sc Gay ce ee ee oe v

“ S PNITT AT 3) y SCONPIDENIiALY | C 3 ~ Opy { = BETHEL, ALASKA id q | E 5 August 1947 ms is | aa {= Subjects Matters of Jationel Interest al | Tos Commanding Officer, Alaska Comumication System | 550 Federal °ffice Suilding, Seattle 4, Weshington x | | le Per AGAO-S 519.1 the following report is submitted on a matter aa which may become of National Interest. Captein Jack Peck and his CoPilet q Vinee Daly have stated that on Auguet 4, 1947 they sighted and followed a flying seucer Northwest of Bethel Alaska. This object was bigger than the | | Douglas DC<3 they were flying, crossed their course at right angles to theme = Tt was flying at an Altitude of one thousand feet. They swung in behind it = | and followed it at an air speed of one hundred seventy miles per hour but — y it was out of sight in four minutes. They state the bs, po smooth a | | surfaced and streamlined with no visible means of pro n whatever. — ; 4 | 2. It is realized that the Fourth Air Force claims there are no such | things but Captain Peck is Chief Pilot for Al Jones flying service and is “he not a man given to exageratione In view of the excellent reputation of Captain Peck and the fact thet no one here doubts in the least but that he = ! actually saw this object, this report is turned in for any action deemad = = necessary by your offices st 5 lr cy | /a/ Yerold Ds Johnaton — Psi ee : : 1/4 Signal Corpe Rey ! Operator in Charge + ER el TURES ne Y at's 4 = EOE OF TGATIONS ee f f. a EN a My Go ye | SA\ NOTES. CORN oe ay i) See = Fg eal ; CANBINENT At ‘ ss cee, ‘ mnt WU Ind LUV LAA : ee

PANDARD FORM NO. 64 ri = . Office Memorandum ¢ UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT L TO : Director, FBI DATE: August 27, 1947 Yk cron : SAC, San Francisco ie) ne AF rar rr srane SUBJECT: REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS , Attention: Assistant Director D. M. LADD randum entitled, "Incident for AF 1208-I" dated August 5, 1947, and prepared. ‘ epee S <+-— po 2 | By, id a vv \ 51 / JS 2F YH wy ) Ww ney ‘ j on 7

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"Lice of the Assistant ie 3 taff, A~z Intelligence t 4AFDC-1 4AP-1208-1 SUBJECT: “Unidentifiable Objects". TO t Special Agent In Charge, I, 111 Sutte street, Sa re sco, Californias Inclosed: herewith is infor on ‘copy of Ic, subje as above, dated 15 July 1947, ALD Le SF : #& Cole, GS leInel: AC of S, Aw2 Info ey MOIC, dtd 15Jul47, i \ ]<

; + UNIDENTIFIABLE OBJECTS ie Williams Fld., Chandler, Ariz, | 15 July 1947 ; | ‘i MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: 1. On 14 July 1947, lst Lt Eric B. Armstrong, 0-2059709, 170th AAF Base Unit, Ferry Division, Brooks Field, San Antonio, Texas was interviewed and the following information was obtained: Lt. Armstrong departed Williams Field, arizona at 1400 CST on 28 June 1947 in a P-51 iz for Portland, Oregon, by the way of MedBrd, Oregon, At approximately | 1515 CST on a course of 300 degrees, and ground speed of 285, altitude 4 10,000 feet, approximately thirty miles northwest of Lake Meade, Nevada ) Lt. Armstrong sighted five or six white, circular objects at four o'clock, | altitude approximately 6,000 feet, course approximately 120 degrees and | § an estimated speed of 285 MPH. Lt. Armstrong said the objects were flying : very smoothly and in a close formation, The estimated size of the white objects were approximately 36 inchesin diameter. Lt, Armstrong stated that he is sure the white objects were not birds, since the rate of | closure was very fast. Lt. Armstrong was certain that the white objects | were not jets or conventional type aircraft since he has flown both types, | | AGENT'S NOTES: , Lt. Armstrong was very sincere in the explanation and was not the ‘ | exaggerating type. He merely stated what he saw and has drawn no con- i. { clusions as to what the white objects were. | | 3 | ‘ } | | i | { } | | RAL BUTEA “niger 7 | Lawrence R, King, Jr., Special Agent, CIC,ADC Ue 3. OF OF 2USNICE | r JUL .3.0°9947 | i oo fee. RUE COPY: : | | | f D. STEMENS tr ox 5 | Major, Air Corps - Saiehenmetnemneaemmmentatae ineneend L z G2-2G92E-Y

ss J1ICE Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT J. = * 3 TO : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: August 27, 191'7 Ps FROM : SAC, SAN FRANCISCO / SUBJECT: REPORTS © PLY LD DISC: N } ATTENTION: ASSISTANT DIRECTOR D. M. LADD Sa Be A LOR D. ti. LADD f Col 7 Pea Sy re : Be eras ‘ y A AL sa Colonel SPRINGER, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, /) Ve telephonically advised Special Agent MICHAEL J. CASSIDY of the San Francisde tH received by his organization from HENRY } cLEOD, city editor of the Seattle ¢ Times, which stated in effect that because there were so many stories going around relative to flying discs and related matters, and that his staff of reporters had been attempting to get reliable information concerning such stories, he was writing to inquire whether any governmental agency was going to make an official statement relative to the situation ertaining to the flying dises; that Mr. McLBOD also asked whether it would be permissible for is reporters to interview ARNOLD, DAHL, and SMITH relative to this situation. sersonally by General HALE on August 25, 1947, and advised Mr. McLHOD that as far as the Army Air Force was concerned, they had no information which would definitely clear up the sit uation; hat as far as interviewing ersons, Mr. McLEOD could feel free to interview whomsoever he desired, in that there was no censorship at the present time; that in the interest of economy, the Fourth but that if well-founded and apparently reliable information were receiv ed, that such information would be given attention. 2 paRRBPRESORDI A Copy of this letter is being forwarded to the Seattle ield Di vision A BEL pnp 62-2938 Co (ALY DWK/jo Wr “ey 2 cc Seattle / AIRMAIL SPECIAL DELIVERY ‘

Dy, This image contains all the : @ information on the document. @ ¥ISCy The att achedhmews pa, = © atoms ed . Delavane, July 6, 1947. I. rsporbe)that oovuisas PTE. 123 ReHObObhiy Avenue, Rehoboth Beach, Dela :, : LE i mOeeL That. an vw _ past ten month had twice seen fly discs ch’ he" was” d to have Mr. WENYON was quoted cs having called the Federal Bureau of Investigation and was advised that the Bureau was not interested, whereupon he notified the Eastern Airlines and the Civil Aeronautic Authority of the: objects he had seen. Both agencies are reported to have accepted the information stating they would investigate. The clipping further stated that mr. WENYON had received no answer to date from either agency. This clipping was submitted to me by the resident agents' office at Wilmington together with the advice that no agent in Wilmington had been contacted by Mr. WENYON. I directed Mr. WENYON be interviewed to determine the full facts, ‘ ir. WENYON was interviewed and it was determined that his correct name is HORACE P,_WENYON. Mr. WENYON advised that he had been an airplane pilot approximately thirty years. He steted that in September of 1946, while flying at an al‘itude of 1,000 feet, two or three miles south of Rehoboth Beach, .Delaw ve, he noticed a projectile approximately fifteen inches in diameter which crossed his course at right angles and was moving in a west-to-east | direction. According to Mr. WENYON, several jets of flame were spurting from the object and it was traveling at a very high rate of speed, 1,000 to 1,200 miles per hour. He stated that in October of 19,6, he observed a similar projectile while flying over Rehoboth Beach at 1,400 feet, This was also traveling from west to easte Seen a . Mr. WENYON stated that there is little question in his mind but that what he saw was some sort of rocket being tested. He stated that he wished to , call the matter to the attention of the appropriate authority inasmuch a- he thought that the series of airplane crashes that have occurred rer might in part be explained by what he had observed. He stated tr reported the information to the Civil Aeronautics Authority 2 telephonically interviewed by a _yeporter from the Wilmingto i pw oe (fA 2 Hy IES DESTROYED Cc wry he O NOV 18 1964 EY (hoe $4 oth 28 , } i ‘ i 9

a ® * L/Dir., FBI W/47 Flying Discs i Miscellaneous Mr. WENYON stated that what he had seen traveled at such a high rate of speed that it was very difficult to describe it, but the description "flying mayonnaise jars" was concocted by the newspaper reporter. This information has not been brought to the attention of any Arny sources in view of the fact that only a preliminary inquiry was con- ducted on the basis of a news article which sets forth essentially the facts obtained from Mr. WENYON. | No further action in this matter is contemplated by this office unless | advised otherwise by the Bureau. SBrarf 62-0 Attachment er

= er > ] é W447 | | .- poem @ | ze: “Ka baibinore pee ee ee ate 4 : SUBJECT: One Drscs i — i ee ai 1 a < | TLEANEOUS@ | en, 2 “i baa aa f " y ] | Peper es aaa tee “<[vaysidey Ag WGimineton, | | ig M ayonndise’ ‘Jars —» 4 [| ) Continued From First Page | ee x 5 h Pil s/f ged from the theory that they 3 se }/were radio controlled flying missiles | ported by Re obot tlot sent aloft by U.S. militty soins: | 1 Pee Sy PP 1 tists to the suggestion that they | | 5 ‘ might be merely sun light reflected | rest Wenyon Believes Mystery Discs, on wing tanks of jet-propelled a planes, | et-Propelled, May Have Caused Big \ A. B. Cross of Chattanooga, Tenn,, ‘ Pl Crash on Memorial Day none ns oa peed the ane | ras e inven le “flying ane saucer” and submitted it to the War! | Se eT i Department in 1943 but his idea was | ran Delaware pilot, Forrest Wenyon of 123 Rehoboth Avenue, e id | th Beach, aiscloeed last night that in the past 10 months he has pes aa tine not practical “at the | Gen objects now being loosely described as “flying saucers” but| feaiets the ead, shel xamyeh aye he calls “flying mayonnaise jars.” : Vineed that the department elabes ®, Particular difference between the mysterious objecte of Mr. rated on his plan mien gg ’s Teport and those which have now been observed in some is’ Plan. mi is | pt ich: . 4 powdered with a rubber band, Cross| 40 states in that the former, accord- said, but he believed atomic power | « |ing to the pilot, held a true course now is being used. until they disappeared from sight, A Spokane, Wash., woman insisted This would indicate a guitcsomae the objects she saw were of such *Hidast an aimed missile while the ise oat together triey ene | 3 Do Hes ‘bean Size that together they would take | 1 cqurse of the “saucers up; the space of a five-room house 1 deBeribed by observers as erratic, if they landed, but a Clearmatee | ir. Wenyon said last night that , Woman said the disks she ob- | he first saw what loosely resembled ae resembled “ple paves | a “flying mayonnaise jar” one after- AS Rutland, Vt, a woman re- | noon last September while flying at ported she and her husbanat wht | about 1,000 feet. It was late in the nessed a brilliant object in e afternoon and the pilot was flying night sky which she assumed to be | north. ; ; a “flying saucer” although it Suddenly, at an estimatea distance| Hationaey. of 2,000 feet in front of his plane | But at Cambridge, Mass., a house-| Jand traveling from west to east, Mr. | wife said she saw “‘a group of white, O! Wenyon saw the “jar.” Tt was going [flying saucers whirling around and jat tremendous speed Hut the pilot |going at a tremendous speed.” Njwas able to note several tnings. | The Massachusetts and Vermont ‘The most important bf these ob- reports brought to 40 the number f\| servations, insofar as arjexplanation of states in which the objects have is possible, is that the “jar” appeared been observed. to have some sort of rocket com- With New England getting into bustion. Mr. Wenyon said that: the game, the Harvard University | | S-| gourts of silver flame from the tail astronomical observatory took note | 'd) Jeemed to provide the propulsion. of the reports but said it had had | | or|| Carrying out the description of no luck so far in photographing one | | n| fhe “flying mayonnaise jar,” Mr. of the discs. | ‘-| fvenyon said that the tail appeared Tile mysterious saucers first were ujto be a lid which had been per- reported June 25 in the State o | forated and that from these per- Washington, but Charlie T. Ham, y) |forations the flames escaped. Jet, superintendent of the Kingt ull) In a matter of two, at the most porté Tenn., Times News composin al] three, seconds the object had dis- room, said yesterday he had see | appeared over and past Fort Miles. the discs two years ago. ’s|'The pilot did not see it land and They were “of a bright, aluminum | | W/ doesn’t know whether it did or not. color” and “were going’ at terrific | a| Then on June 2 while flying at speed,” Hamlet said, explaining he 1 re] 1,490 feet in a Stinson four- passen- Kept quiet about them because of | = as|ger|ship Mr. Wenyon, ¢ pilot of 30 the (pak Ridge atomic bomb pleat, eae tee: on-| =| Yeas’ experience, saw ahother “jar.” then a war secret, t Soap nies Baia ee ee ee lies” sae ail soe ceneiteteet eto Lester Barlow of Stamford, Conn., PaghOR WIRD the AATHIET ie | 's.| Reoboth Airport attaches although international known explosives in « | Whe West, which crginaeg e||te{he “did mention it, Nr Wenyon, Ventor, advanced the theory that | |sa.icer reports, continued to pr ee with a theory in mind, called the the objects were radio controlled eee ts iio) andy eae seen mjfederal Bureau of Investigation. |flying missiles, | | |the whirling dics and also btton (re Stheycere not moe |,,gePorts persisted that the Army | |forth one deflationary explanati: ler|him so, he said. He then called |was looking into the phenomena but oe | of them. ¢ a fiy-|/3e|Eastein Airlines and the Civil Aero- Gen. Carl Spaatz, Army Air Forces <co* Bob Johnson, operator ee iy te-|| |nautic Authority both of which commandant, said he knew of no Bhs | ing service at Missoula, se) the|or/gave him a sympathetic hearing, AAF plans to search for the saucers, | Bante? eye Tate a ariucaved esl tacked tin. and said tiny eee The Navy and Atomic. Enersy |discs and found it to be m ees j hehe seeds. ra i To date he has received no answer a Charles Odom, fede ta es ie) he | row elteer \ ies ] Be eee ret Sula lh |i ME? Weupan'e ‘theory is thet ene on ‘ Y wt Houston, Tex., that the in ee | lehvese “jeaeeean tesponsible for the P, might be a version of ra oS rh wash of the Eastern Airlines plane > r | Feotied Sotyarah: baie’ en PY Gl| Co port Meal aeae oe Memorial | Nazis in the war. \ which killed 53 persons. He These balls, which flew to the he stories of that accider j . titude of the bomber and appare: nd lelieves now that th/ ly were magnetized to fly along w, “ion in mid-air, :-~ the planes, sent b= to Tat be of witnesses, . | 'sers “< ata on omb: sities Se