65_HS1-101634279_100-DE-26505
Agency: FBI
Incident date: 11/7/57
Incident location: Germany

An FBI report from 1957 detailing the interview with Wladyslaw Krasuski, who recounted seeing a large, circular, vertically-rising vehicle in 1944 Germany near a German military compound.

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Record Request « ~ FD-125 (5-27-55) “ = oe [ [J Birth Eo) Credit Criminal CY Motor Vehicle [7] oeatn [1] marriages CJ 1ns To: Return to: 2. File number a Buded 100 -~-2bSoS Name and aliases of subject, applicant or employee & spouse WLADY SLAW KRASUSKI eee ERTS EE EATER ME OIE RAS HEIL RIERA ERR En ana WALTER h | Addresses ™ eg ‘ Residence V PN» Business | Former a ne TERE Se RE rR OE SPOOR TN DR | "Date and place of marriage | (if pertinent) | ——————— | Race — Birth date Birthplace | W/ Col rome pS ; FOIA(b)(6) " = oe hh eo | Arrest Number Fingerprint Classification | Criminal Specialty ) | Specific information desired (See reverse side for results of check) NW 90290 Docld:34714592 Page 7

URGENT 11-6-57 5-40 PM CS TO SAC, DETROIT fo : FROM DIRECTOR iP. OU as pfors, 1 Cig UNIDENTIFLED FLYING OBJECTS, IS-X. MR. W. KIASUSKI, Cyr. os FIVE FOUR FIVE SEVEN/JOS. CAMPAU, DETROIT ELEVEN MICHIGAN, ADDRESSED LETTER DATED NOVEMBER FOURTH TO ROBERT CUTLER, WHO IS SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT, STATING QUOTE I WIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THT ROCKET IN TEXAS. I HEARD ABOUT IT ON THE POLISH RADIO PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO WHOM I COULD SPEAK TO, UNQUOTE. IMMEDIATELY INTERVIEW KIASUSKI FOR ANY INFORMATION HE MAY HAVE. BUFILES REFLECT NO INFORMATION RE KIASUSKI. SIITEL. ; END ACK PLS . AO: OK FBI DE JH )\ Apo > b ) NW 90290 Docld:34714592 Page 8

' Detroit 31, Michigan November 7,1957 ALL INFORMATION CONTALNED HEREIN-1S ASS IPI , : DAT. B In response to a letter directed by him to Mr, Robert Cutler, Special Assistant to President ——_ dD. eee ee that he "might have some information about the rocket in Texas," Wladyslaw Krasuski, 5457 Joseph Campau, Detroit, was interviewed November 7, 1957, and furnished the following information: FOIA(b)(6) Born @ State of Krasuski was brought from Poland as a Prisoner of War to Gut Alt Golssen,approximately 30 miles east of Berlin, Germany, in May, 1942, where he remained until a few weeks after the end of World War II. He spent the following years at Displaced Persons Camps at Kork, Strasburg, Offenburg, Milheim and Freiburg, Germany, He attended a radio technician school at Freiburg and for about a year was employed in a textile mill at Laurachbaden, ag cag He arrived in the United States at New York, May 2, 1951, via the "S.S. General Stewart" asa — Person, destined to the Reverend Father Petro | elalkows » Hamtramck, Michigan; his alien registration number « Since May, 1951, he has been employed at the Gobel Brewery, Detroit. | News report of mysterious vehicle in Texas causing | engines to stall prompted him to communicate with the United States Government concerning a similar phenomenon | observed by him in 1944 in the area of Gut Alt Golssen, | | According to Krasuski, during 1944, month not recalled, ' while enroute to work in a field a short distance north of | Gut Alt Golssen, their tractor engine stalled on a road through i a swamp area. No machinery or other vehicle was then visible | although a noise was heard described as a high-pitched whine similar to that produced by a large electric generator. - Bureau (iM) . f4-hO 8S oS “’& (ae Detroit (100-26505) i » CH: JL Searched meena RE ra A fe Gericlived yobs i“ FHCd an +-aa Seams NW 90290 Docld:34714592 Page 9

An "SS" ee appeared and talked briefly with the German driver of the tractor, who waited five to ten minutes, after which the noise stopped and the tractor engine was started normally. Approximately 3 hours later in the same swamp area, but away from the road where the work crew was cutting "hay", he surreptitiously, because of the German: : in charge of the crew and "SS" guards in the otherwise deserted area, observed a circular enclosure approximately 100 to 150 yards in diameter protected from viewers by a tarpaulin- ; type wall approximately 50 feet high, from which a vehicle was: observed to slowly rise vertically to a height sufficient to clear the wall and then to move slowly yo ebaprmmretna ag A a short distance out of his view, which was obstructed by nearby trees. This vehicle, observed from approximately 500 feet, was described as circular in shape, 75 to 100 yards in diameter, and about 14 fect high, consisting of dark gray stationary top and bottom sections, five to six feet high. The approximate three foot middle section appeared to be a rapidly moving component produeing a continuous blur similar to an aeroplane propeller, but extending the cir- cumferance of the vehicle so far as could be observed, The noise emanating from the vehicle was similar but of somewhat lower pitch than the noise previously heard. The pr ne of the tractor again stalled on this occasion and no effort ‘ was made by the German driver to start the engine until the noise stopped, after which the engine started normally. Uninsulated metal, possibly copper, cables one and one-half-inch to two inches in diameter, on and under the surface of the ground, in some places covered by water, were observed on this and previous occasions, apparently running between the enclosure and a small conerete column-like structure between the road and enclosure. This area was not visited by Krasuski again until shortly after the end of World War II, when it was observed the cables had been removed and the previous locations of the conerete structure and the enclosure were covered by water. Krasuski stated he has not been in communication since 1945 with any of the work crew of 16 or 18 men, consisting of kussian, French and Polish POWs, who had discussed this incident among themselves many times. However, of these, Krasuski was able to recall by name only Franciszek Grabowski, ne address known, described as then about 50 peng of age and presumed by Krasuski to have returned to Poland after 1945. a2e NW 90290 Docld:34714592 Page 10

11/7/57 | ALRTEL AMSD = RM TO: DIRGCTOR, FBI nay ALL INPONMATION CONTAINED yy 0% FROM: SAC, DETRUIT (10026505) Salt Dic does, ; DATE. UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS = X, / Re Detroit Zeletype to Bureau, 11/7/57, captioned "UNIDENTIFIED / FLYING OBJECTS; IS + X," fi He Interview of WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI, aka. WALTER KRASUSKI, / reported in Blank Memo, five copies of which are enclosed / herewith for the Bureau, was conducted by SA CASSIUS RATHBUN. f No indication of irrational or otherwise abnormal behavior yf | by KHASUSKI was observed during the interview. KiASUSKI advised that his communication was directed to Mr. ROBERT CUTLER rather than to President EISENHOWER after seeing Mr. CUTLER's picture and identification with the President's Office in a local paper. KiASUSKI resides with his wife, nee JOANN WISNIEWSKI, married in 1952 at Detroit, and four small children,in a single residence in an old Polish neighborhood at 5457 Jos. Campau Avenue, Detroit. No previous record located in Detroit Indices identifiable with KRASUSKI or his wife. : On 11/7/57, WILLIAM RECKNAGEL, Manager, advised IG PAUL DESMOND that records of the Mich. Merchants Credit Association, reflect only credit inquiries concerning WALTER KRASUSKI during 6/56 . and 3/57 and 657. which confirm his local address and employment. 3.= Bureau (Encls.5) (RM) G* Detroit , CT Nes N caigy Trdexed <5 vvwnvvnensenmeen | i a — ae | NW 90290 Docld:34714592 Page 12

[on ieee eS Pe pe ee oo on we (ue : ole FBI ; ae os Date: Li 7/57 Transmit the following message via eo SO SELEEYER Su ee URGENT TO: DIRECTOR, FBI Leen Pa . FROM: SAC, DETROIT Be AD, pe Bs hahty UNIDENTIFISD FLYING OBJECTS; Is - X, REBUTEL NOV. SIX LAST. WLAYSLAW KRASUSKI, AKA. WALTER KRASUSKI, GERMAN POW MAY, NINETEEN FORTY TWO, UNTIL SUMMER OF NINETEEN FOURTY FIVE. ARRIVED NY MAY TWO, NINETEEN FIFTY ONE, Ao DP, AR No, © . KRASUSKI UPON | INTERVILW ADVISKD THAT WHILE GERMAN POW DURING NINETEEN FORTY FOUR, — | OBSERVED A VEHICLE DESCRIBED AS CIRCULAR IN SHAPE, SEVENTY FIVE | TO ONE HUNDRED YARDS IN DIAMETER, APPROXIMATELY FOURTEEN FRET 2 HIGH. THE VEHICLE WAS OBSERVED TO SLOWLY RISE VERTICALLY TO | | HEIGHTS SUFFICIENT TO CLEAR FIFTY FOOT WALL AND TU MOVE SLOWLY HOKIZONTALLY A SHORT DISTANCE OUT OF VIEW OBSTRUCTED BY TREES. [ | ENGINE OR TRACTOR FAILED TO OPERATE DURING THIS PERIOD AND ON& | SEVERAL OTHER OCCASIONS WHEN HIGH PITCHED WHINLING NOISE HEARD | IN AREA. NO INDICATION OF MENTAL INSTABILITY DURING INTERVIEW. , FUKTHEK DETAILS FOLLOW AMSD. ¢ ‘ / 99 : Approved: hea caro Sent AZO , Per ie | NW 90290 Docld:34714592 Page 13

| The Oklahoma UFO Research Association ‘ | Kerry Liesch, Director Bob Stamps, Co-Director | 3539 N. W. 53rd 5024 N. W. 20th | Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Oklahoma City, Oklahoma October 2, 1966 | FBI OFFICE 913 Federal Building | Detroit, Michigan | Dear Sirs: | My organization would appreciate any information that you could send us on Unidentified Flying Objects, specifically those sightings in | your area in early spring of this year. | We will greatly appreciate any information that | you could send us on this subject. I thank you for your time and co-operation. Sincerely: 6g | Kerry Liesch | Director, 0.U.F.0.R.A. nat . = TNRORMATIQN CONTAINED «5 «th LS US ASSIFIE é aoe BY : AG fl PG 509-9 | 2 Lik | SEARCHED ygca,*ADEX | SERIALIZER). PILED... | Oct? 196 | FBI — DETROIT > | eas Ee | NW 90290 | Docld:34714592 Page 14

Post Office Box 2118 Detroit, Michigan 48231 | October 11, 1966 | | ; | : | Mr. Kerry Liesch Z : Director | The Oklahoma UFO Research Association 3539 N.W. 53rd | Oklahoma City, Oklahoma ; | Dear Mr. Liesch: | This is to,acknowledge your letter of October 2, | Please be advised that this office does not have the information you have requested. It is possible that | the United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force | Base, Dayton, Ohio, may be the proper agency to contact. : | | Very truly yours, oo | Paul H. Stoddard Special Agent in Charge ALL INFORMATIOY CONTAINED | _% -Addressee 4EREIN 1S/UNo SEFIE E & oe (100-26505) DATE BYS¥ RA: frq | {2) ) S | Ly 40 PE SOSO | i SEARCH Et | SERIALIZED INDEXED Ba FILED x NW 90290 Docld:34714592 Page 15