text: Im glad its getting old Gavin, very very happy in fact. Yet there is a simple truth, Gavin (who is a scientist) doesnt know which data was used anymore than we do. BECAUSE CRU WONT RELEASE IT! Why doesnt he want to know? His colleagues at CRU (Climategate central headquarters) have recently been shown hiding data from reconstructions, blocking skeptical papers which demonstrate the problems in paleo math, and removing points from temperature curves to hide downtrends. We know that only a single very high warming station is being used in GHCN for the Antarctic. We know that Switzerland and Austrailia have some very unusual warming trends. We know his colleagues blocked in two cases, papers critical of the Siberian data. Even assuming that they didnt succumb to the pressures of fraudulent selection in Russia, how is Gavin so sure his colleagues havent made an honest error.