Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force ...

<kirkwood> Jan: there is from called COGA action items, in that actions items doc, you have linkes to mental health research tracking document. So in actions items documents we need to show where find everything
Plain langage
<julierawe> Section title: "Literal language is used, and any implied meaning is explained.'
Julie sharing screen - working draft by the end of the sprint to cover all the outcomes in detail but not tests.
Common words will have a more indepth set of work.
User needs first then tests for the various areas for each section.
Julie showed how this was done by reading through her suggestions for three methods in the literal language section.
Julie has updated the link for the personalisation semantics.
Lisa mentioned that getting this to test level may be difficult - so may need a step by step approach - can test by using a translation engine so you can see whether it is translated to the correct meaning - there are tests for when you consider something is not literal - such as subtle changes that affect meaning - may need to go into more detail.
Lisa also added that metaphors and other issues with literal language issues can also be implied and this can be missed such as different types of audio or gesture.
Lisa suggested may need a different type of track such as alternative audio tracks not just for the words written but also music etc.
Lisa also mentioned dry run cognitive test - may need to make one
Julie said what this is a quick set of descriptions and then we build up the tests.
<kirkwood> I would potentially include term “Figurative Language” if including Literal language: which means exactly what it says, whereas figurative language uses similes, metaphors, hyperbole, and personification
Lisa suggested the dry run cognitive test is similar to the way it works when testing computer coding... thinking about the meaning of individual words and how a different option can be offered if a word is too complex
<kb> Thanks for explaining, I wasn't sure what dry run cognitive test was, sorry. Yes, I think hyperbole is also important.
<kb> Rain - could you share the emoji research?
<lisa> +1 emojease are translatable and genraly great
Rain felt the examples offered may mean two things - so do not confuse people and explain the example such as having cold feet - need to ensure this is not the medical side of actually having cold feet. Also suggested using accurate emoji and finally with a dry run - making use of a automated translator would be useful - this is a verification to ensure you are not making a mistake - they identify and correct rather than explain.
Julie said this was a good point. It is about finding a potential probem rather than solving it.
Julie will move this down to the method section later.
<lisa> +1 to ea. it is symbole, icones etc
<kirkwood> yes emoji are (ascii) characters
John says that need to introduce 'figurative language' plus definition.
<kirkwood> both icons/emoji’s are good for memory too (in the plus area, due to emotional saliance)
Lisa icons and emojis are good if you struggle with words but when less frequently used ones or new ones tend to be confused - maybe need to put a star by this aspect of the descriptions as offence can happen when the wrong emoji is used by accident. The way the image looks may need to examined more carefully
Julie felt that interpretations should be perhaps detailed in the way they are used in the method.
<Rain> +1 to focusing on word choice and word-based language in this pass
Jan feels that genstures and emojis are non- literal - felt this was a very complex topic because of the cultural implications and perhaps this is a non- literal area and as with gestures this needs to be flagged.
Julie felt that perhaps we need to think about whether it stays in this section or should be moved
Lisa also asked about tone of voice and its impact - implied content of what you are saying needs to be included.
Julie agreed need to add 'tone of voice' as can also be in written content.
<lisa> symbols and emojes are langage
<kirkwood> +1 to Rain
Rain - concerned that we may be being too broad - need to make a decision whether or not we are covering all content that conveys information including all aspects of language whether written or other aspects for non-written or other ways of communicating what being messaged.
<Rain> +1 to determining the context
<kb> +1 to specifying media. It will help people to find the info too
Jan need to think how to divide this up / does it belong. Make it a different method - answer the question - where would this happen, what is the media used to convey each aspect of the communication.