### Human: RV Step 1 Session 1, 16th of the 2nd 2017. .. Yeah. So I got a bit of information from what you've talked to my colleagues about. But yeah, I just thought I'd start by asking you what you're kind of wanting to get out of coming in and working together and what your main concerns are at the moment.### Assistant: I'm not 100% sure what the session's about. I'm not sure if it's about what I was talking with earlier, or?


### Human: Because she asked you lots of different questions, didn't she?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. Yeah. So it can really be whatever. We can talk about whatever you want. I got a little bit of background that there's been a transition in the family recently, and that's been causing all the stress for you. And then you were probably talking to me about different perceptions and stuff. Is that what you were referring to?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. I mean, it's really up to you. What do you feel like you would like to focus on? There might be other things that I just didn't mention. Yeah. Yeah. It's a collaborative process. And we work together but, yeah, really driven by you about what you think is important.### Assistant: It's a bit hard. I don't know. maybe for something else.


### Human: Yep. I hope I didn't put too much pressure on to say it's all open.### Assistant: No. It's all right. I honestly don't know what to start off with.


### Human: Okay. Maybe I'll just ask. How have things been going? Because I think you probably came in a few weeks ago to see me initially, right?### Assistant: Oh, I think the first session, we-- the first session I had here was with you. And then the other ones were with me.


### Human: Yeah. Yeah. So it's probably been a little while since you first initially came in. So I've heard from you a bit, from what's been going on. So maybe you could fill me in about how the last few weeks have been or how you've been going.### Assistant: The last few weeks have been well, probably better than most weeks. It's a bit muddled up with switching back between mom and dad's house, so different bus stops and lots of stuff, bringing things to dad's, bringing things from dad's to mom, sort of making sure you've got everything, chargers, that sort of thing. And it hasn't been that bad. It hasn't been that busy. Normally, it's a lot busier than that. We've started out football training.


### Human: Oh, cool. Is that with school or club?### Assistant: For our local club, yeah.


### Human: Oh, cool.### Assistant: That started yesterday.


### Human: Yep. How did you find that?### Assistant: It was good. It's starting to get a lot busier now. We're getting into football season and back into school. We're starting to get into school sports. We're starting to get into projects at school, that sort of thing. So I think just starting to-- yeah, just getting into--


### Human: It's a new year, kind of.### Assistant: Yeah, getting into doing that sort of stuff like football training and going to school and all that sort of stuff. So it's taking me a while because I've been in holiday mode for a long time.


### Human: Yeah, yeah. It's hard to start up again, isn't it, after the holidays?### Assistant: Yeah. Because you've got nothing over that period of time. And then coming back to school, you're like, "Ah."


### Human: Yeah.  You have to get up a lot earlier, probably.### Assistant: Yeah, I do.


### Human: Do you like to sleep in over the holidays?### Assistant: Yeah. It was really good. Especially the fact that the early waking up and late coming home--


### Human: Because you have footies after school or homework or--### Assistant: Footies after school on a Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday.


### Human: That's pretty full-on.### Assistant: Yeah. And I've got school hockey on Wednesday as well.


### Human: You play hockey.### Assistant: Yeah, for the school.


### Human: Cool. Yeah. Awesome.### Assistant: And I play three-- well, I do three sessions of sport each week at school.


### Human: Really? Does your--?### Assistant: I have three days with sport on it, so.


### Human: Your school, do they have a special focus on sport, or do you just happen to know?### Assistant: They are into sport a lot. Eating healthy and being active, that sort of thing, they're really focused on that. And they have courses there where you can focus on sport and the different aspects of it. But school sport, everyone tries out for. So you'd pick a sport that you think you'll be interested in, and then you do it. So I did hockey last year, which is interesting.


### Human: Yeah. Had you ever played before then, or?### Assistant: Mom plays hockey, and I sort of hit around a bit, not a lot. I knew how to hit, that sort of thing, but not a lot about the game. And I sort of just picked it up along the way.


### Human: Oh, cool. So you're a bit of a natural at sport, it sounds like.### Assistant: I do a lot of sport, especially during winter. Winter is when we really do get a lot of sport. Because in winter, there's a lot more winter sports at school. And with football, I have football, which is just up at the school. And we train all through the year except during club football.


### Human: Is the club linked with one of the AFL clubs? Is that right?### Assistant: Yep. You play then, and you go into the TAC cup for them, and then you get drafted from there to a team.


### Human: Oh, wow.### Assistant: And you go from the TAC cup. And hopefully, if you get far enough, you go to the AFL.


### Human: Is that what you want to do?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah, cool.### Assistant: I'm really working hard. It's been a dream for ages and ages. I think playing football, I started when I was in prep, starting probably about-- I think I was five. When we were born, we had-- we didn't get to pick a team or anything. Mom and dad were both football supporters. So we were sort of destined to be football supporters.


### Human: Yeah. From birth?### Assistant: Yeah. We had footballs. We had beanies. We had jumpers, all that sort of stuff. So football has been around for ages. We've always been into football. We did oskie up until we were nine. And then we started doing club football at the age of nine and have done it ever since.


### Human: Yeah, cool.### Assistant: So yeah, it's pretty good.


### Human: It sounds like, yeah, you're doing pretty well at it to be doing the right stuff.### Assistant: Yeah. It's taken a lot of practice-- taken a lot of practice with kicking. Kicking was all right. It wasn't very good. But yeah, it's taken a while, but I've gotten there.


### Human: So--### Assistant: And ever since, I think, around 13, that's when we first heard about football. And that's what most of the people in our age group sort of strive to go to. So you try your hardest, and they have people that come out and watch games.


### Human: Like scouts, kind of?### Assistant: Yeah. And we have people at the club. Also, we've got a guy in the club that watches. He's part of the team. And he used to coach a few times, and he's always around the football club.


### Human: So he knows the players well for maybe being part of the club.### Assistant: Yeah. He's always watching. He's there the first game till the end of the game. And he's there all the time. He coached a few times. I think he coached three or four years. And then I think he's sort of gotten more into the game, so. Yeah. But he's been a part of that. And he sort of recommends to look at a certain group or certain people. So the scouts come out, then, and watch, so. Yeah. When it's getting closer to winter break, we're getting into football. So otherwise, we do


### Human: Yep. The preseason's starting now. Because it would be, what, April or something, you'd probably start playing games, just a guess, or?### Assistant: I'm not 100% sure. But we only started club football yesterday, and we started playing in-- I think it was the 31st of January.


### Human: Oh, right. So you've already been going a bit for that. Yeah.### Assistant: I've had a few sessions with them, which have been good. Especially coming back from-- yeah. Especially coming back from the summer holidays, you're not doing a lot. You're not doing a lot of exercises. You sort of get into the swing of things eventually. And I think the first three weeks of school, I was overloaded with doing sport at school, doing sports, doing school sports, now to do club football. I'm sort of overcrowded by sport at the moment. Yeah. I enjoy it. It's always been a s


### Human: Oh, cool.### Assistant: And our other uncle played for us for a few years.


### Human: Oh, wow.### Assistant: So football has been in the family--


### Human: Strong in the family.### Assistant: --for a long time. Yeah.


### Human: Are they on your mom's side or your dad's?### Assistant: They're on my dad's side.


### Human: Okay. Cool. Yeah.### Assistant: We'd always be kicking the football around with cousins and all that sort of stuff. So football has really been in the family.


### Human: From the start, yeah. And do your uncles give you tips and stuff like that?### Assistant: Yeah, they did. We don't see them a lot anymore because it's a bit hard coming to school and finding time, especially when one of them lives in town. And so it's a bit hard. But we keep in contact. And when they're down, we'd go watch the match. And we'd go get tickets, and we'd see them after the game, that sort of thing, so.


### Human: Oh, cool.### Assistant: Yeah. We try to see them as much as we can, I guess.


### Human: Yep. Yeah. Awesome. And that sounds like, yeah, it's been an important part of your life so far and, hopefully, your future with the dream to play AFL.### Assistant: Yeah. We've got to really work hard because it started off with 180 kids in the squad. I think it's down to 80 or something.


### Human: Wow.### Assistant: And only two get drafted.


### Human: Oh, gosh.### Assistant: So it's a big competition. So to make it all the way to 18s-- only two get drafted, which is pretty-- it would be--


### Human: A tough competition?### Assistant: Yeah. Especially when you look at all these kids, you have no idea how many people are out there that are really, really good footballers, so. But yeah, we're just going to have to work hard and hope I get there, hopefully. But yeah, I'm really excited to get back into the swing of things. We started school on the 31st as well. I'm pretty sure. So going back into school, I think, the 31st, Tuesday, I think--


### Human: Okay. Oh, I can't remember back now.### Assistant: So yeah, I think I got back to school, and I was doing sport already with friends and then also doing the sport sessions at school as well.


### Human: Yep. So--### Assistant: So yeah, I got really hammered with sport, but I enjoy it. I guess you got to enjoy it to do it.


### Human: Yeah. I mean, it's normal, though. You really enjoy some parts of it, and you might find it a bit overwhelming as well. Is that kind of what you experience?### Assistant: Sometimes I feel like I get swallowed with sport. It feels like I'm always doing it, which I don't complain about. But sometimes by the end of the week, I get home, just lie down because I've done so much sport.


### Human: Exhausted. Yeah.### Assistant: But--


### Human: Does your body get really tired?### Assistant: It gets very sore, especially coming off school holidays. But my muscles are sort of getting used to running around and that sort of stuff. But the first day coming back from school, I was so sore. I could hardly walk.


### Human: Oh, no.### Assistant: Yeah. But I'm getting used to it. Yeah. It took, I think, two or three days to get used to it. I couldn't walk for a long time, just get home, sit on the couch. And that'd be it.


### Human: Yep. Yeah, fair enough.### Assistant: So--


### Human: It sounds pretty exhausting.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I enjoy it. And it gets me doing things so I'm not always at home. And sometimes home can get really boring when you've got nothing to do. Sitting in front of the TV, playing video games, it gets really repetitive, especially when I come home every single day and play it. Especially just over the school holidays, that was all I did, so it got a bit boring, but. Yeah.


### Human: Yep. Is it just you and your twin brother in your family?### Assistant: Yep.


### Human: Yeah. And her kids?### Assistant: So it's dad, mom, dad, and I. And at dad's house, it's dad's girlfriend with her three kids.


### Human: Three kids, wow. Okay.### Assistant: She's got a fourth, but he doesn't come around a lot.


### Human: Okay. He doesn't live there?### Assistant: No, he doesn't live there. Only two live there. Two girls live there, and the two boys live at their dad's. Yeah. That's how things are familywise at the moment. Mom's planning on moving closer to here. dad is in college. So mom wanted to move closer there.


### Human: Okay. And I understand you're moving out of your family home - is that right? - to move there.### Assistant: Yeah. So we move out of there, and we move, hopefully, closer to home, maybe a bit further out. I'm not sure. And I think dad stays in there. I'm not 100% sure. I think he will, though. Yeah. I think that's been the past three weeks so far, talking about moving, looking at the house, that sort of stuff.


### Human: Are you helping your mom look at places and stuff like that?### Assistant: Well, mom wants to build. And so she's looking at working out our room and what the house is going to look like, all that sort of stuff, what things will look like entertainmentwise like the TV, couches, beds, what bed we want, yeah, all that sort of stuff.


### Human: Do you like being involved in that process, or how does that feel?### Assistant: I guess it's a bit-- I don't like to bring it up a lot. Because we're moving out of the house I've been in-- I have no idea. I think I've only been in there for-- I think I've only been in there 15-- I think I've only been in that house for 14 years.


### Human: 14 years, yep.### Assistant: I think we lived in it for a year. I'm not 100% sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's all right. But I know that it's just what happens, I guess. I'm not too fazed about it. I guess you don't have to-- the house isn't really something. It's just who lives in the house, I guess. So that's how I look at it.


### Human: So your home is with your family, as opposed to in that particular house. Is that what you mean?### Assistant: Sort of the house isn't a part of us, so it's sort of just something that we live in. It's not something that if we move that house, everything is going to-- but things do change, but it's not going to be the end of the world.


### Human: Yep. Sure.### Assistant: As long as it's just seeing mom and dad, I don't really care where I live or what I do. So yeah.


### Human: Yep. So the important thing to you is that you're still spending time with your mom and dad--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --regardless of where you're physically living.### Assistant: Yeah. Where I'm living doesn't really matter. But it's whether or not I see mom and dad all the time. So yeah.


### Human: Is that a worry at the moment, about whether you will see mom and dad enough, or are you--?### Assistant: We do go to court soon - I'm not 100% sure - to figure out housing and also living, so how many days we spend with mom, how many days we spend with dad, whether we live at mom's, whether we live at dad's. So we're just going through that sort of stuff. Yeah. I think after that, it'll be a bit easier because we'll finally figure out what to do with the house. And it'll, I guess, become a lot clearer than muddled up like this and what about this and all that sort of stuff, so.


### Human: It's up in the air at the moment. Is that why it feels a bit muddled? Because you're not sure when you're going to be--### Assistant: Yeah. The--


### Human: --back and forth?### Assistant: --moving and all that sort of stuff has been going on for ages. Ever since, we moved schools. So yeah, it's been sort of there, but I'm not 100% sure when, where, what dad's going to do, that sort of thing. So it's sort of-- we know what mom's going to do. We're just not sure what dad's going to do.


### Human: In what way do you mean that?### Assistant: Well, when dad gets the money for the house along with mom, I'm not sure what he's going to do. He's going to move house. That's just a bit, in that way, muddled. We're not 100% sure what will happen, so.


### Human: Okay. So from, yeah, selling the house, your mom and dad are going to split the money. And you know your mom's plan is to move near your school and maybe build and set up your home again. And then with dad, you're not sure whether he's going to move house or stay where he is or something.### Assistant: Yeah. Because they're renting at the moment. So whether or not he buys a house or he waits until his girlfriend gets the money for her house, we're not 100% sure yet. So all things are a bit muddled up at the moment. So what happens with dad, we don't know a lot. But with mom, we know a fair bit of what she wants to do, which I guess makes it easier because you know what's happening with mom. It's just finding out what dad wants to do. I don't know what dad-- I don't even know if dad know


### Human: Okay. Yeah. Have you talked to him about it, or are you just kind of waiting to see what happens, or is it easy to talk to him about that stuff or not really?### Assistant: I was going to wait until it comes around to selling the house. So when mom's organized, time to put the house up for auction, all that sort of stuff, I guess I'd speak to him about-- speak to him about it then, what he's doing, what his plans are, that sort of stuff, so.


### Human: Yep. So you're waiting till then?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep. Yeah. Do you kind of-- it sounds like it's much easier to know the plan. And with mom, it is a bit clearer. And with dad, you're kind of working out when it's best to talk to him about it and that kind of thing. Does that kind of stress you out, not knowing what's going to happen?### Assistant: Just a bit, not a lot. I know when things become a bit clearer, we'll get a bit more of an understanding of what's happening with mom and dad. But at the moment, it's not exactly clear what's happening. Yeah. When things start happening and that sort of stuff, I guess, yeah, we'll end up finding out what happens then, hopefully.


### Human: Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You seem quite calm. You've got a pretty mature-- you're looking at how that's going to unfold. Is that how you feel?### Assistant: I just know that--


### Human: . patiently.### Assistant: --things were not working out in the end. There are things I don't know, whether it's going to be the way it is, so. But things never can be the way it is. It would always be different. Yeah. Things won't always be muddled up and not knowing that sort of stuff. It'll end up becoming a bit clearer. And things change, and they don't always go very well, so.


### Human: Yep. So you kind of-- yeah. A lot of people don't kind of realize that. If they're going through a challenging time with things going on, lots of people feel like that might last forever. But it sounds like, yeah, you've got this insight that you know it is quite muddled at the moment, but it'll settle. It sounds like you're quite confident that it'll be okay. It'll settle in a way that it'll be okay kind of thing.### Assistant: Yeah. I guess when mom and dad are happy, things will start getting a bit happier. And I think when dad finds a place, when mom builds and all that sort of stuff and finds a place to live, all that sort of stuff, things will start becoming happier, and people won't be so flat like it has been. Some days, you get dad. He's really flat and happy. And mom, you get days that mom's flat and happy. And it'll be a lot clearer, I guess, when we go to dad's, when we go to mom's, that sort of thing, s


### Human: The schedule.### Assistant: --what happens there. And that'll make things happier as well. So when we know where we're living, if we're going to live at mom's or dad's-- I guess what I'm trying to aim for is to get-- looking fortnight, get one week with mom, one week with dad.


### Human: Yep. That's what you'd like to do?### Assistant: Yeah. And I'd like to live with mom. But I guess it's up to-- dad and I have different reasons where we want to live and that sort of stuff, so. But it'll work out in the end. Actually, I know it's all going to work out. Because when we end up moving house, that means that mom can move on. And then when dad gets the money from the house-- yeah. When dad gets some money from the house, he'll end up going around-- we've got to start looking at where we can-- if he wants to buy or he jus


### Human: So do you feel that the house thing, that all would make a big difference for your mom because she'll feel like she can move on from what's happened? Is that what you mean?### Assistant: Yeah. When mom moves house, she'll sort of go-- she'll sort of move on, start at the new house. And when dad gets the money, and where we're going to live, what are we going to do with the money, that sort of thing, so. Yeah.


### Human: So you think, yeah, things will get better when those things happen, kind of.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep, yep. And I didn't quite catch what you were saying about your aim to have a week with mom, a week with dad. But then you were also saying you wanted to live with mom. Did you mean full time, or? I didn't quite catch that.### Assistant: Well, I was looking at a fortnight that I'd be at mom's for the first week and the second. So I would be living with at mom's and alternating between dad's, not living at dad's, alternating between mom's.


### Human: Okay. So your home base is more at mom's and then a week at dad's.### Assistant: Yeah. My home base would be more at mom's house, and I'd be going to dad's.


### Human: Yep. Yep. And you and i have different opinions about that.### Assistant: Yeah. He wants to go and live with dad. He can't do that at the moment. So yeah, we're just going to have to see, I guess.


### Human: Yep. Okay. Yeah. And how you were saying about people feeling a bit flat and stuff, I was just curious. How have you been feeling?### Assistant: I have days where I really can't be bothered. But that's rarely. Also, with mom and dad and me, sometimes they get days that they really get angry. They get tense, or they get sad. And they just get flat, or they don't want to talk at all. I get a few days like that where I just can't be bothered talking to anyone. I just want to do my own thing. Yeah. My paranoia sort of plays off a bit. So I'm always tired. I guess I'm never flat and unhappy. It's just I'm always tired, which may c


### Human: Yep. Okay. So yeah, you don't feel flat or unhappy, but you just feel tired?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep. Okay. Okay. And what you were saying about the paranoia, is that what you've been speaking to me about, worrying about going out and being attacked or that sort of thing?### Assistant: Yeah. Things have just been going on for ages. I haven't really taken a lot of notice of it. I can't sit outside. I see shadows. I can't go outside at night. Noises at night inside the house really scare me. And I go to bed when I physically can't keep my eyes open, which is normally about 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning and waking up at 6:00 in the morning. So I don't get a lot of sleep.


### Human: Oh, not enough sleep at all, yeah.### Assistant: So I think one time, I stayed up all night because I couldn't go to sleep.


### Human: And was that because of the worries about the noises in the house, that sort of thing?### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. I have a big worry. I make sure doors are locked, make sure windows are closed, that sort of stuff so no one-- I have a big fear of someone being inside the house. It's just something that I've had for a while and the shadows and the noises. I feel like people are touching me. I feel like someone's breathing on the back of my neck, all that sort of stuff. Yeah. It really, really plays off a lot. So yeah, it just makes me tired. I'm falling asleep in class. So yeah, it drains me a


### Human: Yep. Is that easy because it's daytime, sleeping on the bus?### Assistant: I can sleep during the day. Noises during the day-- I just can't be alone outside.


### Human: Okay. In the day as well?### Assistant: Yeah. But otherwise, I can walk with anyone. I can go outside if someone else is outside and can see me. I can do a lot more in the day. I can sleep during the day. Noises, I don't really take much notice of. It's more at night which I really struggle to get to sleep.


### Human: Yeah. Sure. Yep. And you said that's been going on for ages. How old were you were when it started?### Assistant: Jeez. I think it's been going on for five, six years.


### Human: Five or six years?### Assistant: 15. Maybe at nine.


### Human: Since age nine?### Assistant: Yeah. I think so. That'd be six, seven years, maybe. At least six years, it's been going on for.


### Human: Yeah, way long.### Assistant: I haven't really taken a lot of notice of it, so. It's gotten worse as I've gone on. It started off with shadows and then went further on to not being able to sleep, and the noises really frighten me, and it's gotten to the point where I cannot go to sleep. Sometimes I'd just be able to ignore the noise. I'd be able to ignore it and just go to sleep. And that happened for a while. And it's been, I think, past three and a half years that it's been really bad, the fact that I have to be physic


### Human: In class and class?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. That's a bit rough. What if you fall asleep in class? Does that cause problems? Do you get in trouble or anything?### Assistant: I get behind.


### Human: Get behind, yeah.### Assistant: I sort of miss out on the information that I need. If I'm feeling tired during a class we're not doing a lot, I sort of tend to-- yeah. I sort of tend to write slowly and sort of really-- I can't be bothered. I hate that sort of stuff. It really makes me feel even more tired. So yeah, it doesn't happen a lot anymore because of how much sport I'm doing. It sort of wakes me up a lot or keeping me awake because I'm doing a lot. Yeah. So we'll eventually find a way to, hopefully, get rid of i


### Human: Yeah, to be able to sleep and--### Assistant: Yeah, to be able to sleep and that sort of stuff, be able to go out at night without all the fears like coming down a dark alleyway. I couldn't even step down a dark alleyway, that sort of thing. Even alleyways during the day, I can't do. Even with someone there, it's just-- yeah. Yeah. It's just those sort of things that sort of-- I can't walk home at night if I was from somewhere, from my friend's home. From my friend's house, I need to walk home. I couldn't, that's sort of thing. So it so


### Human: Yep. So yeah, that limits your independence and, yeah, just being able to do stuff that you want to in a more carefree way, kind of.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep. Okay. Thanks for telling me a lot about what's been going on. Yeah. I feel like I got a lot better understanding from talking to you than just from reading notes and stuff from other sessions. Yeah. So it sounds like there's kind of working out or waiting for things to kind of clear up at home and managing with mom and dad and your brother, feeling a bit flat or in different moods at times, and then also managing your whole lot of sport that you're doing. And then there's this sort of p### Assistant:


### Human: You were looking forward to it, moving.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. There are a lot of minor things that I don't tend to worry about, so. Yeah. Dad living with his girlfriend, that sort of stuff, they're minor things that I can live with. I've gotten used to it. So I'm not as skeptical and that sort of stuff. It was a bit weird at the start, but I've gotten used to it. Yeah. I just have to live with it because I don't want it to happen. It's going to happen maybe with mom. I'm not 100% sure. But it was eventually going to happen with either both


### Human: Yep. Okay. So you feel like you're kind of getting more used to your dad's partner. It felt a bit inevitable that maybe one or both your parents might find a new partner?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep. Okay. And was that something that-- how did you feel, initially, about that idea?### Assistant: A bit weird. Someone else coming to your life, sort of getting used to them, it's very different, whether or not you're going to get along with them or not. I know a really close friend. His mom met someone else, and it's been absolute hell for him. So I was coming to that-- because his mom and dad split before my mom and dad split up. So you're going to their house. It's like, "Jeez, is that going to happen to me?"


### Human: You're worried about that. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. It got better. I sort of got to know her a bit more. We went to school with her kids. We know them. They're local too, so. Yeah.


### Human: So that's settled for him. So is that part of why you are like, "Oh, things will settle for me as well," or is that just quite a positive view on life, it sounds like? Is that more generally?### Assistant: Yeah. I think it's more of a positive view.


### Human: Yeah. Cool. Cool. I just looked at the time. It's a little bit past 5:00. So I should probably let you go for the day. You probably already had a long day at school as well.### Assistant: Yeah. No, it's all right. We did a lot of sport today. We're going to Sovereign Hill on Monday.


### Human: Oh, that'll be fun.### Assistant: Yeah. So we get--


### Human: Have you been before?### Assistant: --to look at how food, sweets, and candy and lots of stuff are-


### Human: Oh, yeah. That is fun.### Assistant: --made and refrigeration over the years, what people ate because we're doing it for food science. So we're looking at the science behind food and what kind of fats you need, all that sort of stuff. So that's where we're going. We get to buy a few souvenirs. up there, which will be cool.


### Human: Are you panning for gold as well?### Assistant: I'm not sure. I'd like to. If we don't, I'd like to go back up there again. And I think we do get time to do that sort of stuff. I think there's a mine that you can go down, and you find little nuggets. I'm not sure. But we don't get to do that. But I think we do get to do things. But if we don't get to do that, I can always go up with mom or dad and all that stuff. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it.


### Human: Yeah. That sounds really fun. I'll be interested to hear about that. Cool. Yeah. Maybe next session, we can have a think about maybe-- because we'd start with like, "Cool. Why do we focus on so much?" And I feel you'll give me a pretty good picture to start off with at least. Maybe we can decide on where we want to start next week as well in terms of some of that problem-solving if you want to or whatever. How does that sound?### Assistant: It sounds good.


### Human: Yeah. Cool. All right. Thanks so much for coming in and being so open to chat with me today. You did very well.  All right. Well, shall we head back out? And did your mom bring you today, or?### Assistant: Yeah, mom brought me today.


### Human: Okay. Cool. Yeah. All right.### Assistant: I think I've got to wait for him. I think he might be--


### Human: Oh, what time does he finish?### Assistant: I have no idea.


### Human: I'll find out soon.### Assistant: I think he finishes later than me. I'm not 100% sure, but I'll find out.


### Human: Yeah. still working, hopefully. we can check that later. So I thought because we haven't seen each other for a while, maybe we'll do more of a catch-up, check in, see what you'd like to work on. What do you think?### Assistant: Sounds good.


### Human: Sounds good. she updated me on the chat you had with her two weeks ago today.### Assistant: I think it was two weeks ago. Yeah.


### Human: Anything you want to update me on, or you want to focus on today?### Assistant: This is always hard.


### Human: It's a hard question, isn't it?### Assistant: Things to update and work on. Not a lot has gone on since the last time I saw him. I was talking about football.


### Human: Yes. That was on my mind, that you might update me on football. Yeah.### Assistant: I got onto another squad for football. So even more football training.


### Human: So update me on the routine with football because she was explaining it to me, and I was like, "I think i will have to explain this again, so it makes sense."### Assistant: Well, at the moment, Tuesday is Calder Cannons here in town.


### Human: Calder. And what level is that on because you've got a few teams, don't you?### Assistant: Yeah. So Calder Cannons is going to TAC cups and that sort of stuff.


### Human: Yeah. TAC cups. Yeah.### Assistant: And then we've got--


### Human: And that's training on a Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah.### Assistant: Wednesday is normal-- so normal club football in japan.


### Human: Okay. Club football, yeah. Yeah.### Assistant: Thursday, I believe--


### Human: You're very busy.### Assistant: I believe Thursday is going to be-- because we've got into-- normally Thursday wasn't anything, but I think Thursday's going to-- because we got accepted into the NFL. So our club football is the Northern Football--


### Human: Okay. And is that you also, and yourself?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. Just checking it is the same, or if it's one of you. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. So the NFL's the league that our local football club's in. I think that's on a Thursday. I'm not 100% sure.


### Human: We can always change it around.### Assistant: Yeah. Friday's club football again.


### Human: So far. Yeah.### Assistant: So that's just training.


### Human: And that's training. So that's training for Wednesdays and Fridays.### Assistant: Yeah. And coming up-- won't be for a while though, but Sunday's normally the time when we play club football games.


### Human: Club football games. Yeah.### Assistant: But that's further into winter, so.


### Human: So that's it.### Assistant: And that's further into March.


### Human: Starts March. Yeah.### Assistant: Around about there. I think we have a practice match in March somewhere.


### Human: And is all this practice year long, or is it there's breaks and it's--### Assistant: So Calder Cannons won't go through winter football season.


### Human: It doesn't. It doesn't.### Assistant: So it doesn't. It goes through summer and spring.


### Human: Spring. Yeah.### Assistant: And autumn and winter, they seem not to do it. They do most of it when it doesn't clash with club football and that sort of stuff. So--


### Human: Yeah. So do a lot of people that play club football also-- a part of the Calder Cannons, or is--### Assistant: Yeah. So what happens is you get invited. So people go out and look at your club, and you get invited down to Calder Cannons. And--


### Human: Yeah. This is what he was explaining to me.### Assistant: Yeah. And then they have-- they start off with a bunch of people, and then it gets down to a smaller group, and then a smaller group, and then a smaller group. And I think it gets down to a team. So I think it gets down to about 25 or something like that. And then 2 from there gets drafted to an NFL team. And then you play TAC cups. And then if you're good enough, then you go to play at AFL.


### Human: So that's training for the TAC Cup, and they're breaking it down. Yeah. Yeah.### Assistant: So that only runs-- I'm pretty sure it only runs through summer and spring. It might run through autumn. I'm not sure.


### Human: Yeah. Because you've got summer, spring, and that's a new thing.### Assistant: That was Calder Cannons and leading up to TAC Cup has been out there for a while. The only new thing that we knew about, I think it was the day after I came and saw it, I found out that I was in the NFL squad.


### Human: Yes. So how long have you been in the Calder Cannons for?### Assistant: I've been in there for-- since last year I've been around about-- jeez.


### Human: So 2016 or '15.### Assistant: It was 2016. I think it was close to the end of the year. Might have been September.


### Human: Yeah. September. Yeah.### Assistant: Might be even earlier than that, but I think that's around about when. It's a bit confusing because I've got so many football dates already.


### Human: Yeah. That's why I wrote it down for my own, just to be able to separate the different ones.### Assistant: Yeah. So Thursday and Monday and Saturday--


### Human: And Monday.### Assistant: --and Sunday at the moment are all free.


### Human: So if we do that, Thursday is a question mark, and Saturday is a--### Assistant: Yeah. Thursday's not sure, and Sunday at the moment is, but getting further into winter is when Sunday will become club football, which is good. I'll start getting back into football. I enjoy playing because this is normally when-- coming back from holidays, I haven't done a lot of exercise. And then it comes back to here, and it's hard. You're all into it and that sort of stuff, but yeah, it's good to get into running and that sort of stuff and playing footie, which is always good. And that


### Human: Yeah. How does it help with school stuff?### Assistant: School stuff. So I have three sessions of sport. Well, not three sessions of sport. I have three days.


### Human: Yeah. And did you choose three days of sport? ??### Assistant: What happens is we get electives. So we get to pick certain sports and certain subjects that you want to do. I decided to do-- so I've got two electives. The two electives are on Tuesday, so today, and are also on Thursday.


### Human: Yeah. So you have them twice on Tuesday, twice on Thursday. ---### Assistant: Yeah. So I've got a double session on Tuesday. So that's two sessions. And then I've got two sessions again on Thursday. And--


### Human: And what are the electives?### Assistant: The Tuesday elective is PE body works. So sort of looking at muscles, bones, how they work, and that sort of stuff. And then Thursday is-- that's sport and recreation.


### Human: Sport and rec. Yeah.### Assistant: So that's looking at hosting events and all that sort of stuff. Sport in general. So what sport you do. And Wednesday, we've got three sessions, which are the last three, and we have team. So this is where we have people that go into teams, and we visit other schools.


### Human: Oh, so I forgot. Is there a technical word for it still? I've forgotten what it was called.### Assistant: Interschool sports.


### Human: That's interschool sports. Yes. Yeah. The name hasn't changed.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. So that's what we do on a Wednesday, and that's compulsory for everyone.


### Human: And so if you don't like sport, you still have to play sport with interschool sports. Yeah.### Assistant: Well, you try out for a sport. And then if you don't want to play a sport, there's a thing where you stay back at school and do games and still do sport, but you're not going to other schools and that sort of stuff. So--


### Human: So obviously, you would be in the teams. Just a guess.### Assistant: Yeah. right. It's a bit boring being there because it's mostly the people that don't like to play sports and not necessarily trying. So I--


### Human: It's not their thing.### Assistant: --at least want to try and do stuff. So I try to get onto as many teams as I-- well, I try to get onto a team.


### Human: Yeah. What team are you in?### Assistant: I'm in hockey boys.


### Human: Hockey. How do you find hockey?### Assistant: It's interesting.


### Human: Very different to--### Assistant: It's certainly different from football with all the hitting and all that sort of stuff. The power, it's in here-- the muscles in here. Flicking the ball and hitting. Yeah. It's interesting, all the different rules. I'm used to contact and--


### Human: Because there's no contact in hockey, isn't there. Yeah.### Assistant: --kicking, in hockey you're not allowed to. I mean, you're not allowed to push. You're not allowed to-- you can bump, but you can't come in and take them out and that sort of thing. There is a bit of-- there's certain boundaries to contact. You can if you're going for the ball, and you accidentally bump them a bit, but if you come in and knock them out of the whole thing, and then take the ball, that's against you, and the ball's given to them. And you're not allowed to touch it with your fo


### Human: When you're used to using your feet.### Assistant: When you've got the stick on the ground, it sort of flicks up, and your feet are in the way. And you're not allowed to stand on top of the ball, that sort of stuff. Yeah. It's very, very different from what I'm used to because I'm used to going after the ball and that sort of stuff. Getting thrashed around and that sort of stuff.


### Human: Nicer word thrashed around.### Assistant: Yeah. You can't touch it with your hand and all that sort of stuff. If it touches your-- because you've got shin pads so if it touches your shins and that sort of stuff. There's a lot of rules involved in it. So yeah, it took a bit to get used to.


### Human: What made you choose hockey?### Assistant: Mom played it, and Mom's side cousins play hockey as well. Sometimes when we go up there, they'd be hitting around the hockey ball on a Sunday. So sometimes we'd play with the hockey ball, and I think I picked it up from there. It wasn't that hard. I got moving the ball around and hitting and all that sort of stuff, but yeah, so.


### Human: It's a nice reason to give it a go.### Assistant: Yeah. Not our fault that I don't do school football.


### Human: And why is that possible?### Assistant: Purely because I'm a year-- so I went to school earlier. So I was--


### Human: You're start of the year. You were born start of the year, so you went up a year, or you went a year earlier?### Assistant: I went a year earlier. So I'm a year younger than other people. So these guys are turning 16 this year, while I've turned 15 at the start of January.


### Human: Yes. Yeah. So I was exactly the same, with a year earlier because I'm a January baby. So everyone's turning a year later, and you're like, "Yeah. I'm next year." Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. And it's hard with football because what the school does-- all the school does is you've got-- 7s play by themselves. 8s and 9s play together. 10s, 11s, and 12s ---


### Human: 10s, 11s, and 12s.### Assistant: Because I'm in year 10 this year. So we're up against year 11 and 12. So basically, I'm at year 9, going up against 10s, 11s, and 12s. So they're much--


### Human: Yeah. So you could almost be against 18-year-olds.### Assistant: Yeah. They're much bigger than me, and I don't play that because of that. Because they're older than me, like a year, I've been-- in micro football I've always played a year above, so it's not that hard, but playing against people that are like two, three years older than me, it's a bit harder too, and they're massive. We've moved down to our own age group this year, and hopefully, we stay down. I've gone from people being up here to being people around about here. So all of a sudden one of


### Human: And it sounds like that's--### Assistant: --a little bit more important, I guess, than doing school football because I guess then--


### Human: That's what I thought you might say. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. The school football sort of doesn't set me up for if I wanted to do football after I leave school and that sort of stuff, so.


### Human: Is that what you're thinking, or is that--?### Assistant: Well, if I do well in Calder Cannons and do end up getting up to the varsity squad, most likely you can play for Cannons and slowly , I'm pretty sure until you get drafted, So--


### Human: So could you get drafted at 15, or you need to be 18?### Assistant: I think you need to be-- you need to be 18 to be able to get drafted. I'm not sure. It might be 17, 18. I'm not 100% sure, but I know that two people do get drafted at the end of the year in 18s or 17s. So--


### Human: And you're playing under 15s or 16s?### Assistant: Yeah. I'm playing under 15s this year.


### Human: Under 15s. Yeah.### Assistant: So with Calder Cannons, you have to play in your own age group. So there's no advantages and there's no disadvantages with age and size and all of that sort of stuff. So at the moment, we're in under 15s. So we've got a while to go, but what they do is after a few months, they'll look down with all the people at Calder Cannons and go, "All right. These people are really good. These people are all right. And these people are struggling to cope with all this sort of stuff." So then they drop i


### Human: Wow. That's 100. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. They've done a lot of cuts and a lot of people have gone.


### Human: And what's the catchment area? Do you have to live in it, or how does it--?### Assistant: The Calder Cannons is-- so there's Calder Cannons and then there's Northern Knights. I think the cut off of doing it is-- I don't think you can go past them. I think that's the outskirts of Calder Cannons because I'm pretty sure you and i are now Northern Knights. So I think that is as far as you can go. I'm not sure how far that stretches out both ways. I think people in town-- so there's northern knights that are in Calder Cannons. So no, I'm no


### Human: Needs to be so that they can figure out who goes where.### Assistant: Yeah. There's certain clubs that go, and I'm pretty sure it's due to living as well. So wherever you live, I guess, that's how far. Yeah. It's not so much-- it's with playing at the club and how far you are away from that club. So yeah, but I'm not sure how far that spans out though. I'd be interested to know. But yeah, there's heaps of local people from there that are as far out as here, I'm pretty sure.


### Human: That's a big distance.### Assistant: There's some people from school, and I'm pretty sure there's other people, but everyone has got different teams. So some teams aren't-- they don't have a football team. I'm pretty sure the only football team they have is the seniors, which is 18s and up. So-- actually, I think it is them. I'm not 100% sure, but yeah. So at the moment, if I do well with Calder Cannons and I keep going and keep sticking with the group, most likely looking out of there, football is


### Human: And what's that about, that you've got to have a rebound?### Assistant: Football back then, my uncles did football, and at the--


### Human: Uncles. So more than one.### Assistant: Yeah. They didn't have to have-- so back then when they were doing it, schooling wasn't such a big thing back then. People sort of saw it as if you're good at football, you're most likely to be a football player. And if you didn't make it, well, then you had to find something else, and that made it hard. And when he went on to play in the TAC Cup when he finished school and that sort of stuff, he doesn't have any education at all, so he doesn't have a job or anything. So he's basically relie


### Human: Having a backup.### Assistant: --there's a big thing about schooling amongst our stuff now in football. So Calder Cannons encourage us to do well at school, and at the moment, with how much stuff I'm doing, there's only a few days I get where I can come home and do homework and all that sort of stuff. I do say to my teachers, "Look, I've only got this amount of days," and i go down to two. Probably, it'll only go down to three, and probably down to two at the moment if Thursday does become AFL training.


### Human: Yeah. Because then it's Monday and Saturday. Yeah. And what are the teachers like around supporting you?### Assistant: They say, "Do as much as you can on those days after school, or if you need, do it at lunchtime," which, yeah, I've got to find time during lunchtime and that sort of stuff to balance out school and sport.


### Human: Would that be helpful for next time to sit down and do a bit of a timetable to see what it looks like for you, where you fit everything in?### Assistant: Yeah. Well, at the moment--


### Human: Just as a thought. You can say, "No. I'm not thinking that all could be helpful."### Assistant: And there are a few things that I'm behind on. A few assignments that I haven't been able to get done because of football. I guess it's hard when you do sport, especially the amount of sport I'm doing.


### Human: And how many hours do you do? Just for me to get my head around.### Assistant: So Calder Cannons goes from 5:00 till 6:30. And club football goes 5:00 till 6:30.


### Human: 5:00 till 6:30. Yeah.### Assistant: NFL one, I'm not sure about. And the other club football on Friday is the same time. And Sunday, normally games. I'm not 100% sure. I'm pretty sure about four quarters, I think. The last time it was 20-minute quarters. So probably looking at an hour and something. What?


### Human: So if they're 20-minute quarters--### Assistant: There's 20-minute quarters and there's four of them.


### Human: So 80-minute duration.### Assistant: That's 80 minutes. Yeah. So that's probably about an hour and 20.


### Human: So at least an hour and a half.### Assistant: Yeah. Almost.


### Human: 80 minutes.### Assistant: I think that gets up-- I'm not sure how many minutes we have. No. Because I've gone down. So we have the exact same. Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. 80 minutes.### Assistant: I think. I know last year because I've stayed-- so last year I was under 15s, and this year I'm playing under 15s again. So I'm pretty sure it stays like that. I think the older you get the more changes you get on the ball and all that sort of stuff. So more times you come on the bench and that sort of stuff, and the higher it gets, I think they're looking at 25-minutes or something like that. So when you get older, they get-- I think when you get to about 18 it's 30-minute quarters and all


### Human: That's a much longer game.### Assistant: Yeah. And that's, I think, what AFL-- I think AFL is close to that as well, so. But yeah, they get pretty long, but you get changed a lot more and that sort of stuff. So yeah, I think it's probably about an hour and a half almost you're looking at.


### Human: Yeah. With the break and what. So 90 minutes. And then when you finish at 6:30, what time do you get home?### Assistant: Normally the time we get home-- how long would it take you? By the time you leave , it's about-- I'm not sure. I'm not sure how far the football stadium is because that's where we play, and that's where they play TAC cups and all that sort of stuff. I think it's around about 7:00ish.


### Human: 7:00ish. Minutes to get home?### Assistant: It might be about--


### Human: Take about an hour to get home.### Assistant: Around about 6:50, 7 o'clock I'm pretty sure. So around about 7 o'clock we get home most of the time. And then straight after that, Mom makes tea, which we're looking at about-- normally Mom has stuff made. So it's probably about 20 minutes. So we start probably eating around about 7:30 each football night.


### Human: Yeah. And then what happens after you eat, like the rest of the night?### Assistant: Normally either we watch TV or-- we either go to bed, depending on how tired I am.


### Human: What time's bed? I'm pretty sure we spoke about it, but I don't remember.### Assistant: Normally, most times bed's around about 9:30, depending on how tired I am.


### Human: So looking at that, there really isn't that much time to even fit in homework if you wanted to.### Assistant: And yeah, so it's really hard, especially because most of my people at the school I go to now, they--


### Human: Most of my people. I like the wording.### Assistant: Yeah. Most of my classmates, they only do two days of sport a week, and because I'm doing so much, it's really hard to catch up on homework and all that sort of stuff, and assignments and all that sort of stuff normally take an hour max. Some of them you have to do two or three pages of work and all that sort of stuff. So it does take a while to do stuff, and by the time you have tea, and you go to bed again.


### Human: So sometimes you'll do assignments on the football nights. Is that what you're saying?### Assistant: Not really. I normally do it around about Monday or Thursday--


### Human: Which makes sense. Yeah.### Assistant: --depending on due date. So that sort of limits time as well. If a due date's on a Thursday, then I've got Saturday, Sunday, Monday. That's really about it. But if it's two or three weeks, I get the allowed time to do it. I'm sort of looking at enough time to get stuff done.


### Human: Yeah. You work it around.### Assistant: So a bit on-- when I get home, a bit on Monday, a bit on Thursday, a bit on Saturday, a bit on Sunday, and keep doing it, and I normally get to around about finishing assignments, but at the moment, yeah, it's hard, especially the fact that there's so much homework to do normally.


### Human: And how much is there to fitting it in? How do you find how much they give you to realistically how much you can do?### Assistant: Most teachers, knowing that I do do a lot of football, they normally give me a bit more time. So they'll extend it out, but it's a bit hard with the weekends because I'm not 100% sure if we're going to go out for the day or we do something else on the weekends. It doesn't help that some weekends-- so every second weekend we're at Dad's.


### Human: Yeah. Is it the same arrangement as you said last time, or is that four days at Dad's, the rest at Mom's, and then it alternated?### Assistant: It was Wednesday-- yeah. So there's Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday morning. That's what it is at the moment. So at Dad's, don't have any internet to do all the research and that sort of stuff. So that limits how much I can do.


### Human: So there's no internet at Dad's at the moment.### Assistant: No. And we only get the mobile data on my phone, and I normally only get two or three bars when I work. So it's a bit hard to do research and all that sort of stuff, especially on the little screen and--


### Human: Yeah. Is there an option of having the internet, or that's not happening at the moment at Dad's?### Assistant: At the moment, yeah, it doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon, but hopefully, it does. I know that most definitely internet at Mom's. So I can do it most weekends. Obviously, it limits if we go out or not. So sometimes we'll go out for the weekend to eat, and we'll go out on a Friday night or something after school-- I'm sorry. After training. And then we'll go out for the weekend and come home around about Sunday night. So that really--


### Human: And where do you go?### Assistant: --takes out my-- normally, sometimes we go out and see cousins or something. That normally happens. So we go out sometimes on a Friday. Now, having football, we'd go out Friday after school. Sometimes you go out on a Saturday, Sunday. And then yeah, you'd get home around about after tea. So probably about 7:00 sometimes, depending on where we go to. Some days we might go to school. Sometimes we might go up to school.


### Human: min.### Assistant: Yeah. So yeah, it's just because we go up to cousins and see family. Not every weekend, but some weekends we arrange to go up and that sort of stuff. So that does take out weekends, but normally the teachers are pretty lenient of how far they go.


### Human: And are they similar from this school to the last school with supporting you?### Assistant: The last school, they didn't really bother about homework. Even--


### Human: So that's been a bit different.### Assistant: Even going into year 12, they didn't really worry about homework and all that sort of stuff. You don't really learn a lot during class, but here, you do a lot of homework, and you do a lot of learning during class. So it's going from-- because I had two years and primary school. I didn't even get homework and all that sort of stuff. So having two years of not doing work at school and having no homework, going to now, I'm looking at my second year at this school. Doing a lot of homework. It's


### Human: That routine.### Assistant: Then to do whatever you want, then come home again, do some little bit of homework. But back then, I wasn't doing as much football. So I'd only do club football on a Wednesday and a Friday. So that opened up a bit more days if I was to do homework to do homework, but now, yeah, it's yeah, really hard. So yeah, I will find time to do it. It's just at the moment it's a bit hard when--


### Human: To get used to it too.### Assistant: Yeah. When club football comes around, that'll free up Tuesday.


### Human: Yeah. When club football--### Assistant: So when club football starts up, Calder Cannons will say, "All right. I'll see you."


### Human: Yes. That's Tuesday. Yeah. Because that's a Wednesday.### Assistant: So they don't like clashing up with club football. So they go, "We will stop Tuesday." And then most likely, you come back around about-- oh, when do we finish club football? Close to the end of winter. When would that be?


### Human: So club football's not on at the moment.### Assistant: We're only doing training.


### Human: Yeah. And that's when the games are on backwards. Yeah. That makes sense.### Assistant: At the moment we're doing what they call preseason. So we're doing training before.


### Human: Yeah. Preseason. So currently, it's preseason.### Assistant: Yeah. And then we'll start getting into training. So start getting more kids to turn up to training and all that sort of stuff. So it starts to get into the season. And then after you finish club football, and then Calder Cannons starts back up. So basically, when club football starts up, Tuesday's free. And then when Calder Cannons starts up, club football finishes. So that frees up Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday. But at the moment, the days I've got free is Monday, Thursdays--


### Human: Yeah. Depending on--### Assistant: --- or--


### Human: Yeah. We'll put a question mark.### Assistant: And Saturday and Sunday at the moment are all free. But yeah, coming into winter, days do get pretty full, and not knowing when NFL is on and all that sort of stuff.


### Human: When will you find out about that NFL?### Assistant: I do see Dad Wednesday. We go back to his place after football training. So I'd ask him about what's happening with that. I don't even know if he does know what's happening at the moment. So we've just got to play it by ear and see what happens. Who knows. It might be on a Friday, or it might be on a Wednesday. I don't know. It might even be on a Saturday.


### Human: Yeah. You'll find out what it is.### Assistant: Yeah. We'll eventually find out when it starts up.


### Human: Does it start up-- is it March or is it later?### Assistant: All I know is that I'm in. Dad thought it would be Thursday that we'd train. He's not 100% sure though. So yeah, we're not 100% sure. So all we know is we've gotten in, but yeah, that's it at the moment, so. But yeah.


### Human: Has it been helpful talking about football and explaining it?### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot easier to know what days I've got free because sometimes I go home and go, "All right. Have I got football training or something?"


### Human: yeah. Yeah.### Assistant: And normally, every time a teacher gives me an assignment or something, I will say, "Look, how long is it?" And they'll go, "Oh, it's, let's say, three weeks," or something. And I'll go, "All right. Well, these days I can't do it because of football. These days I'm only looking at doing them." So at the moment, it's the weekends and Monday and Thursday. It will soon fill up a bit. So yeah, I can't guarantee that I might get it very detailed and all that sort of stuff. I try to do it-- if I'm


### Human: Is that--### Assistant: --year 11 and 12, I know at this school they do a lot of homework. So you do like--


### Human: min.### Assistant: --four or five nights a week of homework, which if football still does continue, it will get harder and harder because that means I've got to do four or five nights of homework. If I don't do stuff in class, I've got to catch up on it and that sort of stuff, so.


### Human: Is that something you'd like to focus on next time?### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. Figuring out what days, what times I can do homework and all that sort of stuff.


### Human: So I can print out some-- would you rather a three or a four? Sorry. Double?### Assistant: Maybe even a four.


### Human: A four. This size of it. Some young people prefer bigger sheets. We're just checking it and printing out either.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. It'd be good to know that sort of stuff because I wouldn't say I'm very organized. I'm sort of organized. I do know what days I have this, what days I can do that, and all that sort of stuff, but it's got to do with habit because I haven't had that habit. I sort of go, "Oh, I've got homework there. No. I'll leave it for a while." And then I get caught up in something else, and be like, "Oh, you know what? There's homework there, and I'll do it another day." And then I get to the


### Human: And getting used to it.### Assistant: Getting into a habit and all that sort of stuff, so, but it helps to have done it at the start of high school, but it was all at the other school at home. You'd get to school, and you'd hardly do any work. And then you'd come home, and you'd have no homework at all. So it was--


### Human: So it was very different to me.### Assistant: Yeah. Very different. So yeah, there's just a difference between, and most of the kids, they get to year 12 at school, and they go, "Oh, I haven't to do all of this homework." And then they get overwhelmed and all that sort of stuff, but these kids at school go, "Oh, we've got homework in year 12. We've got a lot of it. I know I can set this out and do all that sort of stuff. I can tell which days I'm going to do this." But yeah, it's a bit hard when most of these kids aren't very sp


### Human: Yeah. It's very difficult.### Assistant: Most of them are very academic and all that sort of stuff. So there's only a few really sporty people. So because I'm doing so much football, it's-- and they go, "Why do you do that much of sport? How can you do that all the time?" And they sort of go, "Oh yeah. I did it. Did you?" And I go, "No. I haven't had time," or I lost track of what I was doing, or I got too unorganized, and I forgot to bring it home, or I decided I'd do it later, but I end up didn't. Yeah. Yeah. I've just got to get


### Human: You know what you need to do. It's just getting all those bits and pieces together to get there. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. So I do remember that I've got homework. It's just at the end of the day, I'm tired. I want to go home, or I've-- full of energy and I need to get home for football training, and I've got to prepare and that sort of stuff. So I sort of get caught up in other things, and because I haven't had that habit of doing homework all the time, I get caught up in, "Oh, this homework, I'll leave it in my locker. I'll do it another day." Or I'll bring it home, and it'll sit in my room, which happen


### Human: All that in effect.### Assistant: Yeah. I don't have to do more work for doing just that little bit. So yeah, all I've got to do is plan out what days I have this, what days I have that, what days I can do homework, and yeah, I'll eventually get the hang of it.


### Human: And is that something you'd like to do together, plan it out? We can do that next time. Good plan because it seems like just getting into that routine at the moment's tricky because with school holidays not that long ago, and just adjusting to year 10. Your sport commitments, and fitting in school.### Assistant: Yeah. Because straightaway I got to school, and then we started up February 10th. We started up Calder Cannons. So we go back to school on the 31st of January, and then all of a sudden, bang. I'm back into exercising. So my body was physically drained because my muscles hadn't been running and all that sort of stuff because I didn't do a lot over the holidays, and my body was getting used to running and all that sort of stuff. And then coming back to Calder Cannons, it was even more sport. S


### Human: It's great you've got that insight. This is what's gone on, and then what you can do to change it. That's really good.### Assistant: Yeah. Because I know I've spent a lot of last year worrying about Calder Cannons because Calder Cannons was really big.


### Human: Yeah. A huge thing for you. Yeah.### Assistant: I know it's big-- I know it's big for me now still, but it was really big. It was like, "Oh, I need to focus on this because this is what's going to take me to AFL if I do well," and that sort of stuff. And then I sort of went, "No. School. I'll go to it every day. I come home," and that sort of stuff, but sport was like, "I come home from school, and I've got to do this. I've got to well," and that sort of stuff. So I sort of left school behind. But this year, with even more sport commitmen


### Human: And so your stress doesn't go up either.### Assistant: Yeah. But this year I'm sort of getting more into football. I'm more into football. Sort of getting closer and closer to football, but I've sort of got to find the middle, where I can focus on school and focus on sport, which I haven't found at the moment. I'm leaning more towards sport, which most of the time I think about it, "Well, when do I have football training?" Or when I'm doing my sport electives at school and all that sort of stuff, I go, "All right. I've got sport now. I've got to


### Human: We can--### Assistant: --football is then higher. So I sort of leave the ones that I go, "No. That doesn't matter. I think I won't need it in the future." I go, "No. I won't need you. I won't need you," and I put it down at the bottom, and I go, "Oh yeah. I like you. I'll bring you up." And then I bring that other one up. And then I have football, which is on top, and then it goes down in the--


### Human: That hierarchy you have. And we can talk more about it next time because we're going to have to finish up in a moment. Is there anything else you really wanted to talk about that was pressing?### Assistant: Not really. No. It's just all to do with school and sport. I've got to find out--


### Human: School. Yeah. That makes total sense it would be.### Assistant: --what I can do to help. I thought that I had it under control but looking at all the sport that I've got now, when I went over it a few weeks ago, I went, "Jeez. I've got a lot of sport. Haven't got a lot of time for school."


### Human: Well, let's work together to try to fit both in because it sounds like that's something you do need to do. Fit them both in. When's the next time that works for you to come in, or should we check with Mom?### Assistant: I've got another appointment with you.


### Human: Yeah. She was telling me--### Assistant: With my sessions, I'm pretty sure it was. Yeah. I've got Thursday the 2nd of March at 4:15, and Tuesday the 7th of March at 9:00 in the morning. So that's so far with me. So yeah, those days I'm 100% sure, but I think Mom was going to give headspace a call to organize another session for this.


### Human: Yeah. We can do that.### Assistant: But I know that these sessions we do, and I think after that, we don't go back for another six months or something. I'm not 100% sure. I think that's what Mom said for these appointments with me, and the doctor as well.


### Human: Yes. Yeah. And then we're weekly to fortnightly, depending on what you're feeling we would need. So if you'd like it to be next week or the week after, totally up to you.### Assistant: Yeah. I'll speak to Mom about it and that sort of stuff.


### Human: Yeah. Is Mom here, or is Mom gone?### Assistant: Mom was just going to-- Mom's dropped us off and is going to pick us back up again. At what time? Yeah. She is.


### Human: Pop out.### Assistant: m. We've still got school to go back to.


### Human: Yeah. So we'll--### Assistant: Which I don't particularly want to go back, but I know I have to.


### Human: We'll finish up with--### Assistant: Relax, and then go back into football, but once again I'm just doing what.


### Human: I need to.### Assistant: You all good? Hopefully, I don't get the background music.


### Human: You all good? Hopefully, I don't get the background music.### Assistant: I think it was on last time.


### Human: Yeah. The soundproofing isn't the greatest between the two walls, and sometimes I can completely block it out, and it's not there. Other times, you can really hear-- depending on the sound--### Assistant: It's not you--


### Human: --probably.### Assistant: --can't hear it out the door, so--


### Human: No. You can't. no. You go, "Where's the sound coming from"? because you've got some--### Assistant: I thought it was coming from next door last time.


### Human: No, definitely straight from behind from the gym.### Assistant: Wow. It's just the fact you can be down there-- in some of those rooms there, and you can't hear it at all, and you get up here, and you're like, "Whoa, jeez, that's actually really."


### Human: Well, it's quite loud, so I can't imagine how loud it is in the actual gym if we're hearing it.### Assistant: And it's sort of soft. Sort of like it's coming from next door--


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: --where you're playing it at a normal tone.


### Human: Yes. And it's coming.### Assistant: But normally, gyms do have really loud music.


### Human: They do like to have loud music, and sometimes it's okay. Other times, it's-- personally, I feel it's questionable sometimes.### Assistant: Kind of place does not have-- it's not bad music, at least.


### Human: It's not bad, yeah.### Assistant: Places enjoyable to listen to instead of having really bad stuff in the background talking.


### Human: We don't want really bad stuff.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: What would you like to chat about today?### Assistant: I think I'd go forward with the homework situation. That's where we'll start.


### Human: Yes, yeah, just wanted to check if that's still wanted to do or if you wanted to do something different. I brought the timetable we wrote out last time to check if it's the same, or if things have changed in two weeks. And then--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --I've got two options to see what you would prefer more. Do you prefer that way or that way? Hour, or just morning, afternoon, evening.### Assistant: The hour one looks--


### Human: The hour one? Yep.### Assistant: --a bit late, so.


### Human: Some young people prefer this one and not this one-- that one, so I thought I'd run it by you. And we can start that.### Assistant: Sweet.


### Human: All right. I think it might be an American one because it starts on a Monday, which sometimes I find is easier anyway because then the weekend is together.### Assistant: Yeah, because it goes down with the-- I can't remember how old I was when I first looked at the calendar. I looked at it and said, "Why does it start with Sunday?" That's a bit weird. And you get older, and sort of you look at it, and you go, "Oh, Monday," and thinking that you always need it for as a school day Monday was the start of the week.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: I thought when you looked on a calendar it's Sunday, Monday. So when you're looking at it, you should go, "Ah, it's Sunday." And you look, and you go, "There's no date on that," because sometimes--


### Human: That's right.### Assistant: --it has Sunday blank, and then Monday would be the first.


### Human: Yes, yes.### Assistant: You look at it, and you look at Sunday and go, "Why doesn't that have a number on it?" And then you look around and, "Ah, that's Monday."


### Human: That's right, yes.### Assistant: I could get used to the fact that Sunday's the start of the week instead of Monday? And that's sometimes when I'm writing down stuff, I always go Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.


### Human: It kind of makes more sense because it's school days, workdays, and then weekend together.### Assistant: Yeah. School day and working and lots of stuff, and then Saturday and Sunday's the end of the week where you sort of relax. But it's actually the fact that Saturday, Sunday-- it goes that Sunday's the start of the week--


### Human: That's right.### Assistant: --which I find confusing. Why wouldn't they make Friday a weekend? I'm like, Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday, and school day Monday because you're looking forward--


### Human: Oh, yeah, yeah.### Assistant: --to those days.


### Human: That would make more sense.### Assistant: Or we'd keep Friday, Saturday, Sunday the weekend, and that's for all--


### Human: There's nothing wrong with that, three-day weekend.### Assistant: --and you just do more during the week. I'd find that cool because--


### Human: You'd prefer that?### Assistant: --that means I've got-- because I've got three days where I have to wear a sport uniform, and only wear-- have formal uniform once.


### Human: Because I think I've only seen you in your sport uniform, yep.### Assistant: I have it on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, so.


### Human: Yep. That would've been the days I've seen you.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Thursday, I think, was the last time, yeah?### Assistant: Mom don't tend to go with Mondays and Fridays. She finds it easier to do Tuesdays and Wednesdays, and that's just how-- see, I'm always in my sport uniform on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. I think I've only came here on a school day with my sport uniform on. I can't remember.


### Human: I think so. I don't remember seeing you unless you've seen me.### Assistant: I can't remember. I think I've seen you on sport uniform as well. I don't think I've ever-- I think I've probably come here once when I'm in formal uniform. I don't know who--


### Human: Sport uniform is more comfy?### Assistant: --yeah. You don't have to wear the school socks, and there's--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --better shoes and lots of stuff. And the T-shirts where you move around, and you have a--


### Human: They're sticky, yeah?### Assistant: --and so it feels like it's sticking, or it's hard to move.


### Human: And you put a tie that you wear too.### Assistant: We wear that in winter, or it's just getting close to winter. And you have to wear long pants. And you have to wear that in pants, heavier shorts, lots of stuff, so. Yeah. It's getting close--


### Human: It is.### Assistant: --close to winter. It doesn't feel like winter, though, but.


### Human: No. It doesn't even feel-- we've had a summer, but it doesn't really feel like we've had a summer.### Assistant: It did sort of-- I actually think this year winter took longer to finish, and then summer kicks in, and then summer's starting to take--


### Human: That's right, yeah.### Assistant: --ages to wear off because it's been really hot some days. I know every single time we played school hockey on a Wednesday, yeah. Every time on a Wednesday-- every single time you'd go and be--


### Human: It's been really hot.### Assistant: --really, really hot.


### Human: And it's usually 30 degrees on a Wednesday. That's the day it just happens to be hot.### Assistant: I remember it was-- Monday was all right in heat, and then Tuesday was cold--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --and windy, and then Wednesday, it jumped up--


### Human: A month or so ago--### Assistant: --to, I think, it was 27 or something the next day, on Tuesday.


### Human: I remember that week.### Assistant: And then it hit back to about 41 degrees when we were playing hockey. And we're like, "Why couldn't we flip that around?" I think a friend of mine was looking at the weather the next week, and I think it was 28, and then it hit up to about 30 on the hockey--


### Human: I'm not a fan of the heat.### Assistant: --and then it'd be cloudy, and then it was sunny for the Wednesday. And the next week after that, it was sunny on the Wednesday again. So we're like, "Well, we're pretty not stuffed because we're playing in the heat so much." And we only have a few more games, but yeah. It's everything--


### Human: It's a lot hotter in the heat.### Assistant: --every single time we've played, it's been in the heat. We haven't had one cold day, but last time we played, it was a winter sport. So last time we played, it was actually pretty cold, and we wanted warm weather, so we weren't that cold out there, but yeah. Every single time it would be cold. Then it'd be cold the day before and then bang. All of a sudden, it'd be warmer the next day.


### Human: And you don't get to choose the weather, unfortunately.### Assistant: And it's nuts, the fact that you go, ah, I wish it'd be a bit cooler on that day, but then it happens the day before, and then all of a sudden, it just has to be hot. I don't understand it.


### Human: It's confusing.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: With things, would it be the same for mom and dad or different for when you're at mom's and when you're at dad's?### Assistant: It would be limiting because--


### Human: With your entry?### Assistant: --dad doesn't have a computer.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: He has recently gotten Wi-Fi, which is good.


### Human: Good, because you said last time there was no internet.### Assistant: There was no internet, yeah. I think it was-- we saw each other on that Tuesday, and then Wednesday when I saw him, yeah. He had the modem but hadn't--


### Human: Great.### Assistant: --had the Wi-Fi set up.


### Human: I remember you saying that you weren't sure what was happening if there would be internet there or not.### Assistant: Yeah. He was paying a lot of phone bills because when we were there, we were using our data on our phones, so we were going over all the time. So he decided that it'd be cheaper if he-- because he pays for the three phones, so he pays for his, mine, and mine.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And he thought it would be a lot cheaper because he was using it, and he was going over all the time because he was using it for work and at home. And he thought that getting Wi-Fi, it'd be cheaper for the three phones, and it has saved him a lot. We haven't--


### Human: That's good.### Assistant: --we haven't been-- we've had a lot of spare data over, so yeah. He hasn't had to pay over fees.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: We've actually had 3 or 4 gigabytes because we've got 11 gigabytes for our phone plan. I think we've had 4 or 5 gigabytes left over, which is--


### Human: That's a fair-- yeah.### Assistant: --a lot still, so yeah. It saved a lot with dad. It helps. So in some rooms of the house, you can't get really good phone reception, especially in my room. Where the weird part about it is, the fact that-- there's a lounge room, then there's my room, and then there's dad's room, and then at the other end of the house, you look, and the next room is the kitchen. There's the laundry there, and there's another room, and there's another room in there, then there's another room. The toilet bathro


### Human: There's a lot of rooms in the house.### Assistant: Then there's the second lounge room.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: And then there's outside. You get better reception outside. There's my room and the bathroom are the only places you don't get good reception. I don't understand it--


### Human: Of course, the room--### Assistant: --because where my room is, there's the bathroom. So I've got dad's bathroom on one side, and there's my bedroom, then there's another room, and then there's the bathroom off that.


### Human: Where's mom's room, or you--?### Assistant: But yet-- there's my room here.


### Human: Would you like to draw it? Is that easier?### Assistant: Yeah. It would be. It's hard to explain because you sort of go on one side of the house, and then you've got a mirror. It sort of--


### Human: I've got a rough idea, but if it's easier just to--### Assistant: --yeah. It's a bit hard to explain , because there's so many rooms in the house. So whether it is this part here, of the house, which is dad's room, and then you've got the lounge room in here. I'm trying to picture to make sure. So the lounge room is here sort of, and then there's my room, yeah. So the front door is here.


### Human: Yep. The lounge room on--### Assistant: So this is the lounge room area. This is my room. This is dad's room, and then you flip over. There's a wall here. Then you've got the kitchen here. Then you've got the laundry here. Then you've got a bedroom there. You've got the little dining room area. You've got the bath, yeah. You've got the bathroom.


### Human: You said one's in a room?### Assistant: How big is the-- so I know you've got another room here. You've got the toilet because this is sort of-- if you look at it when you come into the dining room area--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --there's the-- yeah. There's the other lounge room here, and then there's--


### Human: The two lounge rooms and dining room?### Assistant: --yeah. There's a wall here. Well, a short wall, and then there's-- yeah. Yeah, it is. So you've got-- that's way confusing. So these two rooms are the same. They just look a bit weird.


### Human: Yep. That's the same, yeah, yep. And you're--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --here?### Assistant: I'm here. So I'm--


### Human: Yep, put a star by it just--### Assistant: --here, and it's here.


### Human: Okay, yeah.### Assistant: So I'll do a star, and it will be a star.


### Human: Sure.### Assistant: And so I'll be the star. Anyway, I know that there's the toilet here, and then the bathroom's here. So that's--


### Human: Okay.### Assistant: --what it sort of looks like.


### Human: Yep, because I think the bathroom is-- no, that's the laundry.### Assistant: So dad's bedroom. The main living. My room, kitchen, laundry.


### Human: That was a bedroom, so that's the bathroom.### Assistant: That was a bedroom. That was a bedroom, again. It sort of goes like that--


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: --and that room. So the wall here, there's a room. That room, that door-- so that's sort of is a wardrobe here.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: So that sort of ends up like that and that, and there's a wall there and sort of goes off like that. So that's sort of the gist of the room, and then there's a wardrobe in here, so that's the two rooms, the same. There's a wall there. Then you've got the-- that means the bathroom would be here.


### Human: Yep. That's right. That's what you said. You said--### Assistant: Yeah. That is the--


### Human: --toilet there.### Assistant: --toilet. The toilet would be sort of here. That means this bedroom wouldn't be as big, and that would be the bathroom. So this area here would all be carpet. Then you got a bathroom. There's the door there and there, yeah. That makes more sense.


### Human: Yep. So the toilet's in the bathroom, or is it separate?### Assistant: It's separate, which is--


### Human: Separate, okay.### Assistant: --good. So that you can--


### Human: That's a good thing--### Assistant: --use--


### Human: --good having it separate.### Assistant: --yeah. And obviously, dad's got a bathroom in there, so it's sort of--


### Human: Yep, like an en suite.### Assistant: --yeah.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: So I've got the-- yeah. That's the main layout of the house, and then that's the garage here coming off, and then this is a little outside area, so there's a sliding door there. So the modem is set up on the kitchen bench here, and before we had the modem, my room and the toilet were the only ones that didn't have good reception, but yeah. There's a bathroom, and we can just do a toilet because that makes it easier, and that's another living.


### Human: Yep. The main living, and then the others, yep.### Assistant: Then there's outside, then there's dining room table area.


### Human: Yep. And that was the garage there. Is that right?### Assistant: Yep.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: So these are the only two rooms that didn't have good reception, which how that works--


### Human: That's really interesting--### Assistant: --is weird.


### Human: --because there's nothing left.### Assistant: Because we've got 4G on our phones. And 4G, it goes down to 3G 1 bar, 3G 1 bar, and it has 4G 4 bars, 4G 4 bars everywhere else. But you get 4G 5 bars here, in the laundry room. You got--


### Human: The best?### Assistant: --4 bars in there. 5 bars in there, 4 bars, 4 bars, 4 bars, 4 bars, 4 bars, 5 bars. How that works? I think you also get 5 bars there. You get 5 bars there. It's the only day you get 3G, 1 bar. 3G, 1 bar, and then 4G 4 bars--


### Human: Okay, yep.### Assistant: --everywhere else. How that works? I've got the--


### Human: That's the way it is.### Assistant: --dining room.


### Human: Let's kind of add that into where--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --the homework fits in. Do you want to--### Assistant: They did put a desk in because the table that dad bought when dad and dad's girlfriend, which we call her stepmom. They--


### Human: So you call her stepmom?### Assistant: --yeah.


### Human: Yep, just so I've got the names. So I'm saying the same thing.### Assistant: Yeah. Dad says that, at the moment, they're probably looking at-- that's how it's going to be. That's how they are looking at it so that he just gets us to-- instead of saying, dad's girlfriend. He just says to say stepmom, and that makes the stepbrother.


### Human: How do you feel about that?### Assistant: I just look at it as that's it. If mom ends up falling for someone else, it just happens. I know that it's happened with a bunch of my friends. It's happened with cousins, and they're all divorced. So their dad's remarried and have had two other brothers to this dad. So there's their dad, which is our side of the-- dad's side of the family, so it's dad's brother, which is our uncle and was our auntie. And they had two kids, and then they split up, and she hasn't bothered to find any


### Human: Yeah, on that side?### Assistant: --kids that happened out of their mom's side and had two extra-- yeah. Two little brothers.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: So yeah. They dealt with it at a much younger age. I think because there's a difference between. I know that the eldest, that's the one that has the really curly hair because their mom had really frizzy hair. She gets it-- I think it's chemically straightened.


### Human: Yes. Yep, you can definitely do that.### Assistant: I think she gets that because it was too hard to manage. I know she doesn't-- but yeah. It was-- I forgot what I was going to say then, yeah. She's 15, turning 16 this year. I'm pretty sure. And then I think, the little brother-- I think he's about-- oh, jeez, I don't know his-- I think he'd be about, maybe-- how old we were? Are we? Yeah. We're 14.


### Human: How old are you?### Assistant: I get so mixed up when I'm talking about ages. I don't even remember. What am I? I'm 23rd January 2002. I will be 14 this year, yes.


### Human: You just turned 14 a few months ago?### Assistant: Yes.


### Human: Yep. You did, yes.### Assistant: It's so confusing because--


### Human: Remember your age.### Assistant: --I would be-- yes. I'd be turning 15 this--


### Human: Next year. You just--### Assistant: --if I was the right age, I'd be turning 15 this year.


### Human: --into year 10, 16 into year 11-- no.### Assistant: No. I'd be 16 in year 10.


### Human: 16-- you're in year 10.### Assistant: Yeah. I'd be 16 in year 10.


### Human: No. You're in year--### Assistant: If I was the right age, I'd be 16 in year 10. 17 in year 11. 18 in year 12.


### Human: Yeah. And you're in year 9.### Assistant: So I must be 15. Oh, my God. I have no-- I get so. When people ask me-- because I don't get asked my age very often, and my birthday. So when people go, "When were you born?" I go, "I'm born in 2002." Sort of asking them. Sort of sounds like I'm asking them--


### Human: Do you think you could answer that for me?### Assistant: --am I? And when people ask me my age, I sort of go, 23rd of January, I am-- and I sort of compare myself to my--


### Human: Because I think--### Assistant: --other-- yeah. I must be--


### Human: --because I saw you--### Assistant: --14. I don't.


### Human: --when you were 14. Was that--### Assistant: I must be--


### Human: --before your birthday?### Assistant: Wow. I am--


### Human: You're in year 10, right?### Assistant: Yeah. I'm in year 10, and I'm a year younger--


### Human: So you'd be 15.### Assistant: --than my age. Yeah. I would be. I was 14-- yes. I am 15.


### Human: You are 15?### Assistant: All right.


### Human: You figured out your age?### Assistant: Now, we've got that part down. I am 15 because I know that I'm--


### Human: So you were saying 14. I'm, like, but you skip a year in college.### Assistant: Yeah. So I know he must be 13, turning 14 this year.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Because I know I've got a younger cousin, on my mom's side, that's a few months younger than us. I think he's the June. June, or it might be later than that. I don't know. I know he's a few months younger than us, but he turns the same age a few or more months later than us, yeah. That'd be right, yeah. So we are. He's 14 now, yeah. He's turning 15. All right. Now, we've established--


### Human: It was 15?### Assistant: --I think he's 13, turning 14 this year, yeah. He would be because--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --he's a year and a bit younger than-- no. He'd be-- yeah. He'd be. He's a year and a few months younger than us, so he must be turning 14 this year. I think it's August. I think, but there's a bit--


### Human: We've established you're 15.### Assistant: --yeah. She's 15, turning 16.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: I'm 15. He's 14, no. He's 13, turning 14.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: All right. That was a major deal. I didn't know my own age.


### Human: We figured it out.### Assistant: When people ask me that question because I'm not used to it yet, most of my friends know that I am younger than them, and I sort of compare off my friends. But I've sort of-- some of my friends are 16 now and turning 17. So they turned 16--


### Human: So that would be even more confusing.### Assistant: --so that's even-- because sometimes some of my closest friends can be 16.


### Human: Yes, yep.### Assistant: And some of them can be 15, and I've got one close friend that's 16 this year, turning 17. So I sort of-- when I think about them, go, "They're 16, turning 17," or I might go that they're 17. I'm a year younger than them. I'd be 16.


### Human: 16, yeah.### Assistant: No. I can't because I'm not driving yet, yeah. It's confusing. And some people are 15 this year--


### Human: Yep. That's all confusing.### Assistant: --turning 16 later. So when I go, "I'm a year younger than them, so I must be 14." No. I can't be because they're turning 16. It's all confusing.


### Human: Shall we get this started?### Assistant: Yeah. So that's the--


### Human: We figured out your age.### Assistant: --yep. Yeah. We figured out the age-- figured out the fact that I'm all right with the fact that-- yes, go back to your question.


### Human: Yes. The fact of--### Assistant: Yeah. I am.


### Human: --dad's girlfriend being stepmom?### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. I know what happens-- or the thing with the house. The reason why mom couldn't-- nana had to take us, on my mom's side-- had to take us today because mom was working at stuff with the bank and the house, and that just happened.


### Human: Oh, so nana dropped you off today, yep.### Assistant: Yeah. I know that happens, or it has happened. I know that cousins have said that they really wanted their old house back, but I guess that happens. I know that I wanted dad to come back and live, and I know that when dad ends up moving away, I'll go, ah. I'll wish it.


### Human: Is dad moving away?### Assistant: He probably going to stay where we are, which is in doubt at the moment.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: He'll probably move-- I know there's a big area of land in town. It might be more expensive. I'm not sure. But dad does play a bit of golf, so he might move closer, and he's got a few friends there.


### Human: Yep. What are your thoughts around that?### Assistant: We've got a really, really close friend that lives not that far, if we do move there, wherever we move to and if he is going to move in there. I know that most of my stepmom's kids still want to move to california.


### Human: And are they living in this house?### Assistant: Yeah. Two of them do. Two of them do full time.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: No, not full time. So they're doing a week on and a week off, yeah. So they have one week with their mom and one week with their dad.


### Human: And is it the same week you're with dad, or are they different?### Assistant: Yeah. They try to get that on the same week, so it's not just us.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And it's not just him, so we sort of get used to each other, which we don't have to now because we used to go to school with two of them. Well, three of them, sorry-- because there's two girls, two boys because one also goes. The oldest boy.


### Human: This is what I'm going to do-- if I draw it. I'll get it.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: It's what we usually do.### Assistant: I think we did it. I think we went through this last time. I'm pretty sure.


### Human: We've done it before, so you've got-- we'll just quickly do-- mom, dad, and then there's-- who was older by a few minutes?### Assistant: min.


### Human: m. So I remember asking you that one. So--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --we can do dad, dad, mom, dad, and then mom. Stepmom?### Assistant: Yep. And then there's--


### Human: How many kids are there?### Assistant: So there's four, yeah. There's four.


### Human: Four? Oldest?### Assistant: There's one. So there're three biological. So three that she had, and one that they adopted.


### Human: Yeah. Oh, I don't think I've ever drawn an adopted child into the family tree.### Assistant: Because I know that they did originally have three, and then one of the girls had problems with her parents-- really bad problems. She was getting abused and that sort of stuff. So they took her on, and I think they only just recently adopted her.


### Human: Ah, so then there was another female recently. The permanent care is to them now, yeah?### Assistant: Yeah. And then they switch between houses, so yeah.


### Human: And how old is everyone?### Assistant: So the oldest - I'm pretty sure - he's 17.


### Human: He or she?### Assistant: He's in year 12, so he--


### Human: Yep. So he's 17.### Assistant: --would be 17, turning 18.


### Human: Yep. What's his name?### Assistant: I know he drives, so that makes it a bit easier.


### Human: So he's 18, then-- does he drive on his own--### Assistant: Not yet.


### Human: --or with someone? So he's 17.### Assistant: He's stolen-- yeah. Sorry. I think he's 17, turning 18 because he's in year 12, yes. He would be.


### Human: Next one?### Assistant: Same age as us, so he's just turned 15.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And then the youngest, I think he's 12.


### Human: Whoop. That's a boy.### Assistant: He a bit confusing because he's--


### Human: That's all right. And the--### Assistant: --yeah. And she's 16.


### Human: 16. All right, and is that a family member or is it someone that they took into care?### Assistant: That's someone they took into care. So it's one of-- so this will be confusing, but it's one of our best friends, friends, which is also her friend.


### Human: Her good friend, yep.### Assistant: Her good friend.


### Human: And the three of these are on a week about? And where do they--### Assistant: Yeah. So they are a week with their dad and a week with their mom.


### Human: --yep. And where do they fit in the bedrooms? So you've got two spare that I remember seeing.### Assistant: We've got the--


### Human: Here you are.### Assistant: So I've got me.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: min.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: I guess we could go by names. It makes it easier for me. So there's me, which is the 15-- so the same age as us--


### Human: Yep. Let me--### Assistant: --because she's the same age as us.


### Human: --quickly write that here so I've got it. yep, yep-- back to you.### Assistant: And there's blood, yep. Yes. There's blood in that room. So it goes dad-- well, I guess I'll write stepmom. It would make it easier if we just do names because sometimes, if I--


### Human: Yep. Let's just do names.### Assistant: --mention. Sometimes if I mention her name, you'll go, "What?"


### Human: What, yep.### Assistant: So there's dad and mom.


### Human: so, yep, that you call her stepmom?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Got it.### Assistant: So that's the stepmom, coco. And then there's me. There's the lounge room, and there's the laundry. Then there's the-- the laundry is Coco's room, which is our cat.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: She's very cute. Then there's the kitchen, and there's me. The 12-year-old is there. There are only three of them that visit week on, week off.


### Human: And c.### Assistant: The oldest--


### Human: what was the--?### Assistant: --the 16-year-old. And so is the 17-year-old. He comes on and off because he's old enough to make certain choices. He doesn't have to follow things--


### Human: oh, yeah.### Assistant: --that their mom and day have made out--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --or have done, so.


### Human: So this will be helpful to have names and where everyone fits in.### Assistant: Yeah. So that's where the rooms are, but he is in there because he doesn't have a proper room. He was going to take one of the other-- take the garage or take the front living room.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Because we mainly use the main living room instead of everything else, so yeah. It just makes things easier in that way. So yeah. And that's the arrangement. So we figured out the fact that I'm 15.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: That I'm okay with the fact that everything--


### Human: With where things are at with--### Assistant: --yep.


### Human: --the family system, yeah.### Assistant: And we'll probably end up doing - I don't know - kind of once a week on, week off with mom and dad. So one week with mom. One week with dad, so we'll probably make the same. I think what we wanted to do was-- that we fit in with mom's-- yeah. That we fit in with mom's family birthdays and dad's family birthdays, and Christmas and that sort of stuff, we have to fit in. So I think week on and week off, we can-- so if mom has a birthday, and she has to have us for that day, we'll just sort of s