### Human: That works well, yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. And we do see dad on training for a few hours. I know we do go back to his place. Yeah. We would go back to his place on a Wednesday, yeah. We would because it's the first week, so what happens--


### Human: It's week one now.### Assistant: --is it goes-- I know that on the start of the fortnight, it starts with mom.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And then the second so-- yeah. The second week of the fortnight, we don't see dad on the-- we don't go to dad's house on the Wednesday because we've only just seen dad on the weekend. So we basically--


### Human: Yes, yep. So you're with mom.### Assistant: --have-- so we basically have Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday with mom on the second week.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And it's Monday, Tuesday, Thursday after school, and Friday morning.


### Human: Yep. Shall we--### Assistant: That's when-- but because we've got a court order, yeah.


### Human: What's the court order?### Assistant: So this court order, I don't have a lot about. I know mom was going to talk to us closer to it. It's about-- I'm not sure. I think it's about talking more about the house, maybe living arrangements. I'm not 100% sure. I haven't been really told a lot about it.


### Human: So that's a wait and see?### Assistant: Yeah. I know they did organize a date. The court hasn't told mom and dad what they're going to be talking about to inform us.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: So yeah. Mom was going to speak to us. I think, it was Wednesday, yeah. Mom was going to talk to us about it on Wednesday. So we don't know much about it, but I know that we go straight to dad's after the court order, yeah.


### Human: And when's that coming up?### Assistant: That's coming up this Friday.


### Human: Okay.### Assistant: So again, we only get three days of school because we had Monday off. We had the long--


### Human: Of course, yes. Long weekend.### Assistant: --because it was the-- so we had the Friday off last week because it--


### Human: Curriculum day.### Assistant: --was a curriculum day for the school. So it goes, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.


### Human: That's nice.### Assistant: And we get Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday off. And I know last week, I only had three days of school. So basically, in a fortnight, I've only had six days of school, which I'm happy about.


### Human: Shall we drawn in the plan so I can--### Assistant: Yes.


### Human: --understand.### Assistant: It will make it a lot easier, right.


### Human: It will make it-- and then we can bring it in in the session, so I can see.### Assistant: So this is what happens in the days, or?


### Human: Yeah. Let's do the days, and then add in where the free times are, which is-- that's what it was.### Assistant: Yep. I'm still not sure on the NFL yet.


### Human: Yep. So we can leave that as a--### Assistant: And obviously, someday we will end up getting into trouble, I think. Whoops. I think the game is coming up soon.


### Human: --okay. Shall we do, maybe-- let's draft what it will look like this week, and then we can always go back and redo them. How's that?### Assistant: Yep. So this will be the first week in a fortnight. I think we'll do this as--


### Human: Yep. Let's do that.### Assistant: --because it'll be different with dad-- and if we need to have a separate one for dad's.


### Human: Yep. We've got, and I can print out--### Assistant: We can write that out.


### Human: --more of these, not a problem.### Assistant: So start with-- so at mom's, and then-- so 7:00, we go to--


### Human: Well, you can cut out some of the times if it's not completely--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --relevant.### Assistant: So we're at mom's, and we obviously, going to school--


### Human: Yep. Plop in school.### Assistant: --to about-- so mom's in the morning.


### Human: Just put a line down to.### Assistant: All right. I think it-- 3:00--


### Human: Yeah, to 3:00.### Assistant: --so 3:20 finish.


### Human: Yep. So we don't have-- because sometimes, we go through a morning routine of you brush your teeth at this time, this and that, but we don't need to go those details. We're trying to get, where does homework fit in?### Assistant: Yeah. So we have school till 3:20.


### Human: Yep. And then we've got--### Assistant: And then we've got footy training on-- not on a Monday.


### Human: That's right. Mondays are a break, yes.### Assistant: Yep. We normally get home at around about 4:30. I don't know if that would fit more to the 4:00 till 5:00 or 3:00 till 4:00?


### Human: Wherever you feel it? 4:00 to 5:00, probably--### Assistant: Yeah. So--


### Human: --in between.### Assistant: --it would go 4:30, we get home around about.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: We got to do around about mom.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And then 5:00 just so I won't-- we have determined, and yeah. So all this time we have at home.


### Human: Yep, and what do you do?### Assistant: Normally, I'd either watch stuff and play games on my phone, or I'd either play the Xbox because I'm looking at getting a computer and--


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: --getting parts to build it and all that sort of stuff. So I've been doing that lately. Yeah, just leisure time during that time, so doing stuff at home.


### Human: You can just write leisure time to whatever time. That sums it all up.### Assistant: Leisure till about 9:30.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: It's bed. I don't normally go to bed around-- don't fall asleep till around about 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning.


### Human: And what's going on from 9:30 to 1:00?### Assistant: Just lying in bed.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Just with my paranoid, actually.


### Human: Yeah. And what--### Assistant: It keeps me awake a lot, so.


### Human: --tell me some more about that. And we can write in there, and we can even write it on the back if you'd like. So 9:00 AM to 1:00 feeling paranoid. What goes on?### Assistant: It's just lying in bed, basically. Yeah, just lying on my bed. I don't really move around a lot because I'm too scared to get out because really-- yeah. It keeps me alert a lot, so. I sort of--


### Human: Yep. Can I write it down so we've got it?### Assistant: Sorry. I fidget with the pen a lot.


### Human: Yeah. You're all right. I was going to say, I'll grab another one, and then we don't have to share pens. That makes it easier. So if we put-- so 9:30 to about 1:00, yeah?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: So try and feel paranoid. What does that paranoid look like? What are you feeling paranoid about?### Assistant: Any noise sort of wakes me up.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. Any noise or what else? Noise and--


### Human: So it's hard to get to sleep?### Assistant: --I see shadows and lots of stuff.


### Human: Yep. What are the shadows of?### Assistant: Sometimes it's just a shadow of a person--


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: --or just when people run past me and sort of see a glimpse or something if you see someone who past.


### Human: Now, is that seconds?### Assistant: Yeah, just a second where it just zooms past me, so I turn around, and that's what I see a lot more of now.


### Human: How often do these shadows come up?### Assistant: Depending on if there's enough light in my room to create a shadow--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --which there isn't a lot sometimes.


### Human: So if there's enough, yep.### Assistant: Sometimes, in the dark, I can see glimpses, but if it was enough light in my room to see the full shadow of a person, if not, I'd only see little shadows or glimpses, so yeah. That's normally what happens till bed, and that's not much-- and around about 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. That's when I can't keep my eyes open.


### Human: Yep, can't keep eyes open. Yep.### Assistant: Yeah, so.


### Human: And how many times do you see the shadows at night?### Assistant: It can be twice at the most. I don't see much because-- yeah.


### Human: And is it every night, every few nights, you see them?### Assistant: Mostly, every night, I see them.


### Human: Mostly-- yep. And when do they start?### Assistant: Mom normally goes to bed at around about 10:00ish--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --normally, my body starts to shut off at around about 10:00.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Mom makes us go to bed at 9:00.


### Human: Yep. I meant, when did they-- how long have they been going for? When did they begin-- has it been months, years? Sorry.### Assistant: It's been going on for ages.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. I know I said this with you. I can't exactly remember. I think it was 6 years, maybe. Maybe a little less. Maybe 4 or 5. I'm not sure, but around about that-- 4, 5, 6 range--


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: --because after a while, I just sort of got used to it. I thought it was normal and all that sort of stuff. So I just really didn't bother.


### Human: And it's really common for a lot of young people to see shadows at night.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: I just wanted to double-check to get a better idea of what it looks like at the moment for you.### Assistant: Yeah. So that's normally what happens, and that happens normally, every night.


### Human: And what do you think the shadow is?### Assistant: Mostly a man. It's just a person standing there. I have a real-- I hate noises in the night.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Going outside thinking someone's there.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: I just hate the idea of people being around me at night.


### Human: Why is that?### Assistant: I'm not sure. I'm afraid of being watched at night or someone being in the house. I don't know, just every time something comes on the news about people jumping into cars and breaking windows and all that sort of stuff-- theft. I know it's happened to mom and dad. Well, mom especially. It's happened when she had a house and went away--


### Human: How long ago was that, yeah?### Assistant: --and mom didn't want to stay, so.


### Human: How long ago? Were you alive when that happened?### Assistant: I wasn't. I wasn't around when that happened. That was when she was a kid. So that was a long time ago.


### Human: Yeah, so before you were born?### Assistant: Yeah. So I just--


### Human: And the--### Assistant: --yeah. I just have a real-- I just hate the fact of someone being out there and watching or coming into the house or being in the house when I'm not there.


### Human: Is that what you think the figures are? Do you think they really are figures, or are they there?### Assistant: I know they're not there because pretty much, but yeah. They'd have to get-- I know that mom goes in there. They'd have to get past the dog, which one of my dogs is really protective.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: To say the least-- doesn't allow people to come inside the house. So he's sort of a guard dog, which he isn't meant to be. He's meant to be a sheepdog.


### Human: But he's a guard dog?### Assistant: Because he's a Kelpie collie, but the Kelp collie, I'm not sure. We don't know if that's-- has a bit of guard dog in him or meant to be protective. I'm not sure because there are other doggies that are Kelpie-- full breed Kelpie, and she isn't very protective. She's really sheepdogish, so she wants-- constantly energetic and that sort of stuff. So we aren't 100% sure if it's the collie in him that does it because she doesn't do it at all-- or it might just be the boy in the collie, or it mig


### Human: But yours is.### Assistant: --yeah, because we have a-- on mom's side of the family, some of their workers do have Kelpies, and you can go up to them and pet them and they're both boys. So you can go up and pet them and all that sort of stuff. They run at the sheep. You can go up and pet them, and lots of stuff. They don't really care, so we think it might be the Kelpie, or it's just him as a dog. So yeah.


### Human: A protective dog.### Assistant: He's a bit weird, though, because all of a sudden, he just started doing it. And we're like, "What?" And then when we got-- and then when we got Jessie-- so there's Woody and Jessie.


### Human: Woody and Jessie, yeah.### Assistant: Dad picked the name of Woody because he was a wood color, and he also, coincidentally, he used to eat a lot of wood. He used to chew on it instead of having chew toys and that sort of stuff. He used to eat and chew a lot of wood because dad being a builder and that sort of stuff-- building decks and that sort of stuff. He had wood lying around everywhere, and I think Woody just found the need to chew it, and that was something that he chewed for a while. Now, he chews all sorts of stuff. And


### Human: Woody and Jessie, yeah.### Assistant: --and then we sort of went--and I sort of went to mom, "You know what? Let's think up a whole different name." We can say that we just got them both off of Toy Story,  if we really wanted to. And we sort of thought, instead of keeping up a name. It makes it easier. It fits because people have been saying that for ages. What are you, Jessie, off of Toy Story, and that sort of fits? And I'm like, "Why not?" So she named Jessie, and she isn't very protective. So yeah. We think it's ei


### Human: So we've got around 5 minutes left. What'll be most helpful to do?### Assistant: I know that Mondays--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --Thursdays--


### Human: Yep, write it in. Mondays, Thursdays.### Assistant: --okay. I reckon we can just keep-- so when we get home, I know that Wednesday, we're at dad's. So--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --4:30 home-- dad's, and then till then, we've got-- so it's 5:00-- so 5 o'clock.


### Human: Wednesday, yep. You had 5:00 to 6:30 unless that's changed.### Assistant: Training.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Well, it actually will be 6:30, but yeah. It would be. So 5:00--


### Human: Yep. That's what you were telling me. It was--### Assistant: Sorry.


### Human: --5:00 to 6:30.### Assistant: Under 15s folded in the team. So they don't know when number 15s team-- so we either go up-- so the 16s can make a team, or we find a new club, but at the moment, we're-- but at the moment-- because we've played our whole life. We've played with the bunch of kids. We've always been the young people in the group, and this year, we did-- because we're with the kids. They taught us, from a professional point of view, that we'd play down because they fold. And we went, you know what? If


### Human: So you got up to 16s, yep?### Assistant: We got up 16, so they start at around about 6:30. So we'll put it in here.


### Human: Ah, so this has changed now. It's good to double-check.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: Ah, 6:30. And I think, I'm not sure. I think it might be 6:30 too. I'm not 100% sure when they finish, but I know that 6:30 is training.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Yeah. So 6:30 is training, and I'm not 100% sure.


### Human: And so that's club football. Tuesday was the last. Is that still?### Assistant: Yep.


### Human: Yep. So that's 5:00 to 6:30. I've got here.### Assistant: Yep. So it goes, it's 5:00. 00, and then till 6:30.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And then obviously, school is--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --3:20.


### Human: yeah, yeah. You can, exactly, make it as easy as possible, yep.### Assistant: Probably not here. We go a little bit later because it's a weekend. Why not?


### Human: Of course.### Assistant: Why not? We always go to bed later on the weekend because you sort of go, no school. Why not?


### Human: You can sleep in, yeah.### Assistant: So yeah.


### Human: Bless you.### Assistant: Sort of sneezed and coughed at the same time. Wow.  Yeah. That's all the time. Tuesday, yes. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday-- so we're at mom's again. And then 3:20 finish. Go all the way down. So mom's-- we know we finish at 4:30.


### Human: Same, yep. That's all the same.### Assistant: And then that would be--


### Human: Dad's.### Assistant: --mom's.


### Human: Yep. But you spend Monday--### Assistant: And then--


### Human: --night with dad?### Assistant: --that would be dad after school.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And then that would be dad, and that would be dad. So that's dad, I guess.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Now that we can know. We can say dad-- because we do nothing, well, sometimes.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: We just sit at home. Sometimes we go-- do stuff, but that's normally what happens. But we know that that's just dad's weekend. We can write that there and keep it, I guess.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: But Thursday, we've got nothing at all.


### Human: Nothing? And Friday?### Assistant: Friday, we've got training at the same time, so 6:30 training. So--


### Human: Plop that in.### Assistant: --6:30.


### Human: And let's use that. Where does homework currently fit in?### Assistant: I don't actually have homework at all fit in. I haven't got a lot of homework at the moment, which is good.


### Human: That's good, yeah.### Assistant: I haven't figured out what to do after my shift. I should probably write dad's.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And then mom's in the morning, and then-- yeah. We just keep that as dad's.


### Human: Yep. So maybe something--### Assistant: But yeah. So that's basically what happens, and we can do the second week another time, but--


### Human: Yeah. Shall I copy--### Assistant: --that's normally--


### Human: --this for you? And maybe you can see, yourself, where homework could fit in.### Assistant: Yeah, because I--


### Human: How does that sound?### Assistant: --at the moment, Fridays-- obviously, during school till 3:20-- on the bus, it's a bit hard to do stuff. Obviously, friday--


### Human: It's probably not really realistic.### Assistant: --training, and all that sort of stuff. It's really hard to do, and yeah.


### Human: Do you want a blank one, also? Will that help, or do you want me to just photocopy that?### Assistant: It might. Photocopy that because we might for the second week because it changes.


### Human: You can talk more. That's all good.### Assistant: Yeah, yeah, because it flicks around a lot, so.


### Human: So I'll copy that, and maybe, you have a think about, where it fits now or where realistically you can put it in because we don't want you to go, "And I'll do homework here," and that's not going to happen.### Assistant: Yeah, because it was probably on the bus.


### Human: And we don't want to stress you out.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: So today, we've had a chat around your family to get understanding. You've updated me on what happens at night when you're feeling paranoid. And we've started to see, visually, what the week looks like, and your--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --thoughts of to continue on with this next time.### Assistant: Yep.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And that would, I guess-- we finish it off, and then we'll be able to figure out days-- because Thursday, I know from after school I've got nothing on, and I guess I can push away the video games and that sort of stuff. I can do, like what they say at the school. A few hours every single day, it doesn't hurt, but if you're doing an assignment, and it's due in a few weeks, at least do-- they say at least do two hours of homework. So an hour and a half or two hours, they said, of homework, so


### Human: And there's some gaps around.### Assistant: Yeah. And on a Monday, I can fit it between-- because normally Monday-- it's the start of the week. I normally don't do a lot of-- I don't do homework, and when--


### Human: Point being, you've really got some ideas.### Assistant: --yeah. So I don't do homework because it's the start of the week. So I could easily go. We'd get home at that time.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: I probably could do homework from 5:30 till around about, maybe--


### Human: Really stickily.### Assistant: --because we have tea around about 6:30. So I could do 5:00 till 6:30, and then go again until maybe, 7:00--


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: --because that leaves 5:30 till 7:00. That leaves, at least, enough time.


### Human: And that would be similar, then?### Assistant: That would be the same time that we-- yeah, across the board, basically, unless it's not possible.


### Human: Third week? Add in homework time, just so it's a bit clearer.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: 5:30 to 6:30 PM. And then what was the 7:00?### Assistant: The 7:00 was when I could finish.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: So 5:30 till 6:30-- so 6:30 is tea.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: And then what I do is, then I go back, and then do it from 6:30 till 7:00, so at least--


### Human: How long are you going to eat tea for?### Assistant: --not that long. It probably takes probably about-- maybe, around about 10 minutes, maybe.


### Human: Okay, and then another 20 minutes, yep.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: After tea.### Assistant: Or I might start at 5:00. I don't know. I'll figure something out.


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: I'll try that on a Thursday.


### Human: Try that?### Assistant: And then I'll see how that works.


### Human: So how much time-- was that for Monday and a Thursday or just a Thursday?### Assistant: It's probably only going to be for a Thursday, and then we can do homework over Saturday and Sunday--


### Human: Yep. And then--### Assistant: --because, like I said, I probably couldn't be bothered doing it on Monday. So I know it's the start of the week, and I haven't had to go to school on a Monday, but that doesn't happen all the time. So yeah. Homework would always be on a Saturday and Sunday. That's how I've always done it, even with assignments when I was in primary school and was still at high school. If I'd gotten homework, I-- well, and they didn't give out homework at all, so.


### Human: You were saying it last time. So we've got the plan. Thursdays, and you'll see what works for the weekend.### Assistant: Yeah, depending on what happens.


### Human: And then next time we see, we'll see how that's gone.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: How's that sound?### Assistant: I can try it out on a Thursday, and I can do it on the Saturday and Sunday. And yeah. I'll figure something out.


### Human: Sounds good. I'll end this.### Assistant: I think that is on. So there we are.


### Human: I think that is on. So there we are.### Assistant: Sweet.


### Human: How you've been since last time?### Assistant: Good.


### Human: Good?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: School holidays next week?### Assistant: Coming up.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Done at the end of this week, and that's it. We've got--


### Human: Any plans?### Assistant: I think Dad was planning to go away with us on his week. Otherwise, nothing much.


### Human: Nothing much? Yeah. And you've had the core thingy. What was that about?### Assistant: Had that two weeks ago, I'm pretty sure, on a Friday.


### Human: The week we saw each other it was going to be the Friday, yeah?### Assistant: It was Friday. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. It might have-- maybe, or--, yeah. It was a Tuesday. It might've been that Friday. Might have.


### Human: Yeah. some last week. Some Friday not too long ago.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: And how did that go?### Assistant: It went well. Got to say what I wanted to say and, yeah, the main thing about it was to say what-- yeah, to say what you wanted to say. So, yeah, working out well.


### Human: And has anything changed with the arrangement or is that in the--?### Assistant: The weeks that we have Mum and Dad where we're going to get week on/week off so a week with Mum, a week with Dad.


### Human: Yeah. That's what you were saying. Yeah.### Assistant: That hasn't happened yet, and I don't know when that will happen though, but hopefully, soon.


### Human: Because that's what you were saying. I was wanting to check is it week on/week off because at the moment it almost is but it's a little bit like a midweek swap over and--### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. It swaps over during the middle of week and then we go back and then we go back again, and then we go back. It's all confusing.


### Human: Yeah. Because I remember--### Assistant: We're going back and forth, back and forth.


### Human: --the first time that we met and we wrote it down, and it was, "And in midweek, I change to Dad, and then I'm at Mum's for a few days and then it swaps, and then--"### Assistant: Yeah. It's confusing. But--


### Human: Even trying to do this, just to get which day am I at Mum's and Dad's.### Assistant: Yeah. Anyway, eventually, yeah, once we get week on/week off, it'll be a lot easier--


### Human: Yeah. Much easier.### Assistant: --because we'll make sure we know that we've got this week, what we can do there, and then we've got the other week, what we can do there. Sort of just that makes it a lot easier, I guess.


### Human: I agree, just so you know exactly it's this and that day.### Assistant: Yeah. See where I'm going ? back, and then we're going to go back and then we go back again, and after a day, we switch back. Confusing.


### Human: And then if you have your stuff here and there, and at least week for week, you can--### Assistant: Yeah. And what do I bring to here and what do I bring there, like here? It gets really confusing a lot of the time. But, yeah, getting the week on/week off will make it a lot less confusing--


### Human: Definitely, when you know.### Assistant: --a lot easier as well. So, yeah, hopefully that-- I doubt it won't, but hopefully, it does end up being that, and just that it makes your space a lot easier, just having to spend more time with Mum than Dad's, but getting equal with each and having a week and so it's sort of like you're not jumping back between days constantly--


### Human: And that's--### Assistant: --and you'd have two days with Mum, then you have a day with Dad, then you go back and have to go back again, and it's just confusing.


### Human: And that's what you were wanting, a week on/week off?### Assistant: Yeah, I think, but it's easier, and I want that because it was going to make it easier, and we were speaking-- we're speaking. We're spending equal time with both Mum and Dad so, yeah, it just makes it a hell of a lot easier--


### Human: Yeah. Makes it--### Assistant: --instead of this time and trouble just trying to work it out. So--


### Human: Yep. Yeah. And you were, "This day, that, and then we'll get a second page for when it's Dad's."### Assistant: At least now, ---


### Human: This'll be easier to--### Assistant: When we get week on/week off, you just have that and then you have them other things which, yeah, just makes it a lot easier.


### Human: And you're not sure when that's coming about, the week on/week off?### Assistant: Not sure yet. Might be next time we go to court, maybe.


### Human: And do you know when that is? If you don't, that's all good.### Assistant: I'd be able to ask Dad. Dad might not know. I know Mum doesn't, but Dad might know. That--


### Human: We can always stick with how it is now and then swap it to a week about week then.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: And you saw it last week or the week before? When was it?### Assistant: I think it was the week before.


### Human: Week before?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: And then she had the chat about now that you're going into step two, did she mention? So we were doing step one before, which was the supportive problem-solving, and now we're in step two. Is that making sense? You're looking a bit blank.### Assistant: Sort of.


### Human: Sort of. So the way the research study works is the first three sessions we have together, and that's for the six weeks you're in step one, then you meet with them and go into step two, and that's either we continue with supportive problem-solving or we do cognitive behavioral therapy. Does that kind of ring a bell?### Assistant: Yeah. That does sound to be--


### Human: Yes? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.### Assistant: --oh, yeah.


### Human: So you've been assigned to cognitive behavioral therapy, which is CBT. So we'll continue doing this kind of stuff, and what we're looking at is how your thoughts, feelings, and behaviors interact and how if you can change your thinking, that can change the way you feel and the way you behave. How's that sound?### Assistant: Sounds good.


### Human: Sounds good? Just wanted to give you an update so you'd know where things are at. So for the next-- I think it's the next 12 weeks or so, and then we go into step three from there, depending on where you're at.### Assistant: It just sounded pretty-- good. Yeah. Just have to finish up the step one and step up.


### Human: Yeah. Like, "What's going on?" So I'll explain because you'll be looking at me and go, "Is this the same, what we're usually doing or a bit different?" because it might feel a little bit different, would be a bit more seamless. So I'll probably be talking a bit more and double-checking things, where the supportive problem-solving was more what you were saying and more the listening and working together. But it's still all collaborative and together, obviously.### Assistant: Yep.


### Human: What did you want to focus on today?### Assistant: That's the hard part.


### Human: I know. That's the hardest part, asking that question.### Assistant: Yeah, until the last time doing it.


### Human: Or I think have we spoken about what your goals are for coming in for counseling? Maybe we can look at that.### Assistant: No, we haven't done that yet, I don't think.


### Human: I don't think we've specifically done that. What would you like to work on? What would be important to you?### Assistant:


### Human: I'm going to write it down so we've got it as a reference. Managing time better, which is this stuff that we've already started doing, yeah?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Anything else? And I ask so that we can keep each other on track. Are we keeping on track or have we gone off from what you wanted to be working on?### Assistant: It's a lot louder.


### Human: It's loud, isn't it? Yeah. I was thinking the exact same thing when it first happened. I'm like, "That's really loud today."### Assistant: I'm thinking, but--


### Human: Maybe the double couch drowns out the sound more.### Assistant: Might be. I guess-- gee, this is hard.


### Human: And you can come up-- we can leave the page open. You can always add stuff.### Assistant: Dealing with problems a bit better.


### Human: Any problems in particular? Just so I've got a better idea.### Assistant: Things that Mum and Dad do that I may not like.


### Human: Is that going on at the moment or is that in general?### Assistant: Well, it's just in general, look at stuff. That's all I can think of, to be honest.


### Human: My other thought - tell me if I'm wrong - is something around sleep. Is that--### Assistant: Yeah. Around sleeping. Yeah.


### Human: --what we spoke about? Yeah. How do you want to word that? Because that fits in with managing time also.### Assistant: Yeah. I guess how ? when I just go to sleep, but--


### Human: Is that improve sleep or--### Assistant: Yeah, I guess.


### Human: --- get to sleep, or?### Assistant: Improving sleep, maybe.


### Human: Yeah. And then we can work on what, potentially, is going on around here also that we spoke about. What's the priorities for you? And sorry about the messy writing. Or are they all equal and we just do a bit each time?### Assistant: I guess probably the sleep would be a big one, then managing time.


### Human: Yeah. Have a go . two.### Assistant: And then, yeah, dealing with problems, and I guess we can add from there as other things--


### Human: Yeah. Definitely.### Assistant: --pop up.


### Human: I can rewrite it and we can have it neatly written, and I can bring it in each time to check in are we on track. What would you like to start with today?### Assistant: I guess improving sleep.


### Human: Yeah. So would it help to continue with that, to see what your schedule is to see where sleep fits?### Assistant: Yeah, I guess.


### Human: Yeah? Because often that's helpful to see where you're tired, what goes on, and then we can focus on what goes on that you're feeling paranoid before you go to sleep. Would that help, or would you rather talk about that first? Giving you too many choices today, aren't I?### Assistant: I don't know. I don't know. I--


### Human: Either/or? Shall we review this and see how it's going and see--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --if this is changed, how things are with sleep?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: How's the homework time been? Has that been realistic all week?### Assistant: It has been realistic. I've done some stuff during it. Not a lot, but have been doing some.


### Human: Does that look accurate to what we had?### Assistant: Yeah. Now--


### Human: game change or is there an addition of any sport, sport meaning any football? Because I've got-- what it was last time, brought it in. Yeah. That's what we had written down, was the rough schedule with the Thursday football League. Is that--?### Assistant: That's still not popping up yet.


### Human: Not happening yet, yeah?### Assistant: We are having our football club games on Sunday now. We just had our first practice match a few days ago.


### Human: Let's add that in.### Assistant: I haven't really had-- most games, they vary, but every Sunday I just go from--


### Human: Yeah. What time was it, roughly? Sunday night, Sunday--?### Assistant: Be around about anywhere during Sunday, I guess.


### Human: We can just--### Assistant: Because sometimes it varies on time.


### Human: Can even just put it down "Sunday footie" or whatever will be easy for you to read so it makes sense. Might pick a different room next time. What do you think?### Assistant: Hmm.


### Human: It's exceptionally loud today. And what time is it, roughly, or how long does it-- I think you said it goes for 90 minutes.### Assistant: Yeah. I think.


### Human: Roughly.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. Probably around about 90 minutes.


### Human: Yeah. And it's wherever in the day?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah?### Assistant: Yeah. It can go from 11:00 to-- it could go from 1:30, go full rounds at 2 o'clock. It just varies. I know now that we may yet do later games, maybe because we have no-- some days in 15s, we may get earlier games, we may get later games depending on-- so it's just that area open for where we can have games.


### Human: Club football is under 15s or is it under 16s? You were saying last time there was a change.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. We've doing under 16s this year.


### Human: Under 16. Yeah. I'm just going to add it in, because I remember initially it was under 15s--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --but they didn't have enough players, was that?### Assistant: Yeah. The team folded and they were moved up to under 16s, and that's come through so, yeah.


### Human: Good. You've still got that.### Assistant: Yes. The under 16s age, which is good.


### Human: Great. And then again, are they still on a Tuesday?### Assistant: Yeah. We're having our last session today.


### Human: Ah. Because it's Tuesday today, yes?### Assistant: Yeah. So we're having our last session and then that's it until football season's over.


### Human: Which is?### Assistant: I don't know when. I will check that next time.


### Human: Shall we rejig this and we'll take out the key to what it'll be?### Assistant: Yeah. Because it's that last session, but that would be-- we can keep this one for when it's--


### Human: On. Yeah. I'll keep--### Assistant: --full season.


### Human: --that.### Assistant: And we can easily do that one there.


### Human: And it was a fortnight you wanted to do?### Assistant: Yep.


### Human: Let's do that. Would it be easiest to write down week one, week two, and you can put down which days you're at Mum's and Dad's at the moment, or the way you did it, that you had Mum's, Dad's?### Assistant: Well--


### Human: It's easy for you to read. That's the goal.### Assistant: Or I might say so it'll a bit--


### Human: Yeah. Come closer.### Assistant: --easier.


### Human: I'll see if there's another--### Assistant: We can do.


### Human: And there's blue also, if you want to mix up the colors.### Assistant: We can use the blue.


### Human: That's right. It starts from Monday, not Sunday. I was just looking at that, going, "You're not at school on a Sunday."### Assistant: I just did school across the board. This'll be a Friday.


### Human: Do you have school on a Saturday?### Assistant: No. I don't. Yeah.


### Human: That's exactly what I meant. It just continued on.### Assistant: I was just kind of school, school, school, school, school, school, school.


### Human: You can add it on to that one too, and I've got a spare page just in case.### Assistant: This'll make it easier if we write it all down and move it around. Not write on Saturday.


### Human: Unless you do go to school on a Saturday. Some people do.### Assistant: Some people do. I made the assumption do sport on a Saturday.


### Human: Oh, do they? So there's school sports--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --on a Saturday?### Assistant: Lucky, the County doesn't do that. That would be hard.


### Human: Wouldn't like that?### Assistant: No. I wouldn't be bothered going to back to school just to do sport. I wouldn't be that dedicated doing it.


### Human: So your hockey may not have been happening if--### Assistant: If it was a Saturday. I'll put that down.  So that's school.


### Human: Because it's a Wednesday, is it, hockey?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. It's Wednesday.### Assistant: this is it's Wednesday.


### Human: So that's school we've got.### Assistant: So I don't have to write when I wake up, because it's not on there.


### Human: Up to you how much detail or how simple you'd like it to be.### Assistant: We can go 6:00 because that's when I wake up to go to school, and then we can just do--


### Human: So you're up at 6:00?### Assistant: --9:00, and that's where I get to around about 8:00 at school.


### Human: Yeah. If you can write even on one, "Wake up 6:00 AM," and we know it's across the board. Tiny writing to fit it in.### Assistant: And--


### Human: Just write 8:00 AM next to school.### Assistant: --2:00. I think we'll get there in the end. About time.


### Human: 8:24? I like the specific time.### Assistant: Yeah. Right. So we can do--


### Human: And when do you finish? I think that's what we had down here.### Assistant: 10:00 to 11:00, 12:00 to 1:00 to 2:00. I finish at 3:20.


### Human: And do you finish 3:20 every day?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. I'd check because in my school, we used to finish one day at 3 o'clock. I don't know why, but one day of the week it was 3 o'clock.### Assistant: That's not bad. So we're going to do school, and don't know how to make this look neat-ish with just-- that can just be all school.


### Human: Yeah. You can do that. Yeah.### Assistant: Because that's neat-ish.


### Human: Was this not neat-ish for you?### Assistant: Looking at it now, it's like all confusing with the arrows and the--


### Human: Yeah. We want to make it so it's easy to read. So if you wanted to put it up on your wall, you could see it straight away.### Assistant: Yeah. And we can make Tuesday--


### Human: So we had the plan--### Assistant: Yeah. And we mentioned it.


### Human: --of homework was on a Thursday. Was that working?### Assistant: We could also make it Tuesday. Yeah. That was working. Not after taking off. I couldn't be bothered.


### Human: So--### Assistant: So on this one, we can sort of make it that I do it till 6:30, and then I do-- on Sat/Sun, and then do some Tuesday, maybe? Monday or Tuesday.


### Human: Yeah. We're trying to be realistic of how much will you actually do. And if we hypothetical were to put it five hours each night, would you actually do that? Probably not.### Assistant: Probably about two or three hours maybe.


### Human: Busy, yeah?### Assistant: I wouldn't really do that much. Just keep writing--


### Human: Using example that you'd be like, "Yeah. Probably not."### Assistant: And like you go, "Yeah. I wouldn't do five hours." But, yeah, I'd do five hours and end up doing three a week.


### Human: Let's make it realistic because we can always chop and change and add to it.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. yeah.


### Human: It's not a black-and-white.### Assistant: There.


### Human: Great.### Assistant: All right. And--


### Human: Do you want to copy it onto here? Or do you want to continue on with that one?### Assistant: Keep on this one then maybe I'll move on to doing that one. All right. So--


### Human: And if you need to change colors or any other ones, I've got some-- yeah. There's--### Assistant: : a pen for that.


### Human: Over there. And there's nothing.### Assistant: There's--


### Human: And there's a whole box of--### Assistant: --crayons--


### Human: --pencils here also.### Assistant: All right. We can go orange and pink. Orange is Dad's. Can just mark it--


### Human: I like it.### Assistant: There we are.


### Human: That's it.### Assistant: Bam. All right. So--


### Human: And pink is Mum's, yeah.### Assistant: Dad and--


### Human: Yeah.### Assistant: And so over at-- I should make that call.


### Human: Looking good.### Assistant: So--


### Human: Can you just scribble anywhere? Just use the end of that.### Assistant: We can do Mum's on Monday, also on Tuesday. Wednesday at Dad's, Thursday at Mum's. Friday at Mum's. And then Dad's in. So it's Dad's Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.


### Human: Yeah. And this is week one.### Assistant: And we can go week two. Monday, Tuesday, and then Mum's all the way through again.


### Human: Yeah. Because it's almost--### Assistant: Get this right p.


### Human: --50/50, but it's a little bit--### Assistant: Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. So it's sort of like--


### Human: --different. Yeah.### Assistant: --we've got more Dad's than Mum, then we are Dad. So then this'll all change again and we'll have to totally rewrite it. Doesn't matter.


### Human: Yes, that's right. Yeah.### Assistant: All right. So we can now--


### Human: This reads really nicely.### Assistant: Looks a lot better, there.


### Human: Yeah. And then what might help you also to know which week is where am I.### Assistant: All right. So 3:20 finish, then we can do--


### Human: So realistically, what days of the week work best for homework?### Assistant: Probably either Saturday or during the week, like maybe because Tuesdays are coming, and we can do Tuesdays.


### Human: Yeah. Has Thursdays worked, or have you done it on a different day?### Assistant: Thursdays--


### Human: I'm just looking at what we had.### Assistant: --have been working, and only do the 5:30 till 6:30. Probably, we can--


### Human: Yeah. Well, we put us 5:30 and 6:30. Let's make it so it'll work, and if the 6:30 to 7:00 didn't happen, let's just cut it out.### Assistant: Oh, we can get when I get home which is about 4:00, 4:30. No, we don't really get home about that time. Probably about 4:50, I'm going to get home, so maybe we can start it from 5 o'clock till 6:30.


### Human: We can do that.### Assistant: That might work a bit better.


### Human: Which days, though?### Assistant: Anyway-- oh, so 3:20 finish.


### Human: Because initially, you said leisure time was on a Monday.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Is that staying or do you think homework would work on a Monday?### Assistant: I think we'll just keep it as leisure, so we can--


### Human: We want it realistic. Yeah.### Assistant: Like I go to bed-- I go around about-- bed. So make it bed.


### Human: Looks like it was leisure.### Assistant: : around about 4:00, 4:50, I got home.


### Human: And is that the same for Mum and Dad? They're at the same time or different?### Assistant: I'll get home a bit-- because the bus drops a bit closer to Dad's house, so we normally-- I'm not sure what time I get dropped off at home, so I will leave Dad's drop-off time because, yeah, we do get dropped off a bit earlier. So we might go home at about 4:20, maybe. I'm not sure. I'll just keep 4:50.


### Human: Yeah. It can be a similar time for--### Assistant: But, yeah. my finish at school is the same. We may get home around about 4:30. Maybe I'm at home somewhere.


### Human: So we're just giving it an extra little bit of time to--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Just in case you miss that bus or it's delayed or whatnot.### Assistant: I know. I'll just put 4:30 because I think we get home around about that time. 4:30. And then 4:30. All right. So this-- still on the bus.


### Human: All right. Wavy lines are the bus.### Assistant: Yeah. All right. Then 5:00 to 6:00, so we can do--


### Human: I thought you were going to write tea at 3:30 there when you had the feeling, like, "Oh, we've backtracked."### Assistant: Tea at--


### Human: And that fits in for the days you have-- and also, that tea's at 6:30?### Assistant: Dad, I think we can do--


### Human: Oh, that's Dad. Yeah.### Assistant: --tea. Now you mention it, tea I don't actually have on the 6:30 on a Wednesday.


### Human: That's all right. We can change--### Assistant: I think it's around about--


### Human: Because you're 5:00 to 6:30, but then you said it was--### Assistant: 8:00-ish.


### Human: Yes. Because training's till 6:30.### Assistant: I think it might be at 8:00. So tea ---


### Human: Hop it one down. Yeah.### Assistant: --8 o'clock, maybe 8:10 is tea.


### Human: Friday's also club football.### Assistant: 8:10-ish. Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. That's for tea. Yeah.### Assistant: And--


### Human: And where are we fitting in homework before you color it all in?### Assistant: So Tuesdays, 6:30 after tea.


### Human: Yeah. Do you want to maybe pop it in blue? Would that help so it stands out over the line?### Assistant: Thursday we do-- this is training.


### Human: And that's training.### Assistant: Training, train, and we can do--


### Human: Did I give you a pen that doesn't work? That fits.### Assistant: Homework.


### Human: That was--### Assistant: 5:00 till 6:30. And then we can do--


### Human: And then if anything changes with the schedule, we can always fix it up.### Assistant: Bang. And then--


### Human: Yeah. Sunday, we've got Sunday Club League at some point in the day. And is there a minimum expectation of how many hours of homework you do in a week?### Assistant: About two or three people around about. So I need to color footie and--


### Human: Just checking we're on track with everything too. Green? Yeah. What gets to be--### Assistant: We can do--


### Human: --green?### Assistant: Basically the whole day, we don't have-- that's footie around about 5:00. We don't normally go past there.


### Human: Yeah. So somewhere in that time, just depending on when the game is--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --yeah?### Assistant: There we are. And we can do that as footie.


### Human: Yeah. Did you want to add the training in there too as green or just the actual games?### Assistant: We can do training as well.


### Human: ---### Assistant: That'd be--


### Human: Because that'll be helpful when it changes for us to, say, copy that and widen it out and see where it fits in. So that's week one-- or was that week two, or?### Assistant: Yeah. This will be week one.


### Human: And then--### Assistant: And that is it. And-- oops.


### Human: Woo. That's pretty much it.### Assistant: Yeah. That's it. And we still got the colors. All right. So--


### Human: Yes. You've done a good job putting it in.### Assistant: --school.


### Human: So they're all 3:20, and then, yeah, just figuring out Mum and Dad.### Assistant:


### Human: Dad's is--?### Assistant: 4:30.


### Human: Because Dad's a little bit closer, yeah?### Assistant: And then at 4:50. Yep. And we'll do this as school. Yeah.


### Human: And the other color was bus. Yeah.### Assistant: All right. And tea at Dad's--


### Human: These two days have got two--### Assistant: --we have no idea.


### Human: So there's not a specific time usually?### Assistant: Not at Dad's. I think it's around about 7:00, maybe.


### Human: Yeah. Pop it--### Assistant:


### Human: Okay. Wednesday.### Assistant: Wednesday, we've got football training, and it'd be about-- so that's with Mum, maybe around about--


### Human: Yeah. It's a little bit further?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep. And then Mum's--### Assistant: And that's all we can do. wait till 4:30, home. There we are. And then we can do-- then tea again, so good.


### Human: Makes it easier.### Assistant:


### Human: You're at Mum's.### Assistant: 6:30, tea, and then, yeah--


### Human: Bedtime at Dad's similar?### Assistant: Yeah. Around about. Sometimes it's a bit later, but I try to get down there, try to go to bed at the same time. just a bit too how can I spend that time now.


### Human: Yeah. We can always change things up and see.### Assistant: I'll just put it back down, but--


### Human: min.### Assistant: --it doesn't matter. It's the same way around.


### Human: We know what you meant.### Assistant: So all right.


### Human: Are we missing anything?### Assistant:


### Human: And is Saturday a homework-as-needed kind of a day?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: And Sunday? Yeah.### Assistant: Tuesday, not so much at Dad's because I don't have all the stuff there.


### Human: Yeah. So it's not really going to happen at Dad's?### Assistant: Yeah. No. Not at Dad's.


### Human: So that's more of a Mum--### Assistant: And then Saturday, we can do it around about when? Till about 3:00, maybe.


### Human: From like 12:00 to 3:00--### Assistant: Do--


### Human: --depending on how much.### Assistant: 12 o'clock. the any of that works.


### Human: Yeah. Three and a half hours that you can chop and change. So I'm hearing homework's more realistic at Mum's--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --to do? And when you're at Mum's, it'll be weekdays. And this week it'll be-- how do you think it'll look when it's one week on Mum, one week on Dad? Or is that for us to follow up on when we get there?### Assistant: Let's follow up when we get on with that chapter, and make sure I've got stuff for Dad's, I guess.


### Human: So you can chat about what we can do to help you remember---### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --to do that?### Assistant: But that looks around about what was going on.


### Human: And how do you feel around this to help with managing your time?### Assistant: What I might do--


### Human: There's a body in there.### Assistant: What color is it?


### Human: What color is--?### Assistant: I can do gray just any other time, I guess. Makes it a bit easier for me to see it. Yeah.


### Human: And that's the point.### Assistant: That's just--


### Human: So it's as easy as possible for you to read it.### Assistant: Yeah. And that's just--


### Human: And has it been helpful--### Assistant: --all the spare time.


### Human: --putting it down on paper?### Assistant: Yeah. Makes it a lot easier to look at. That's spare time there, and this is spare time except for tea. Put tea. We should put--


### Human: Up to you if you want to pop it in there or if it's a bit more relaxed on the weekend.### Assistant: It would be a bit more relaxed, I guess. Free time here. That's about right.


### Human: That looks about right?### Assistant: And we can do this as--


### Human: I like how school is free time.  Ah, clever.### Assistant: Free time at school. There we are. And we can do it on this as well. Yeah. This is sort of pulled back a bit more so it's joined up with two. Yeah. it joined up with two. I guess that's free time.


### Human: And you're essentially meaning flipping that the other way?### Assistant: Yeah. it doesn't matter.


### Human: Doesn't matter. It's all good. We know what you mean by it.### Assistant: And am I-- yeah. That's one, two, three.


### Human: Are we adding three days of homework one week?### Assistant: In ones, and one, two, three. That's it. 10 o'clock, bed, and then we'll do it. And we can do--


### Human: And does that really stick? You'll do it three times a week that week?### Assistant: At Dad's I can do homework on a Saturday and that's easier.


### Human: Okay. Yeah. Yeah.### Assistant: We can do that from-- yeah. I'll spend from 12 o'clock, 3:30. And then 10 o'clock, bed. That looks exactly the same. And then free time at school. There we are.


### Human: That looks pretty good.### Assistant: It's easy to read, and your free time is the times I have off.


### Human: How many copies would be helpful for you to have of this?### Assistant: Probably two copies so we can keep these here and we can have four, so two of each.


### Human: Yep. Because I was just thinking--### Assistant: So one at Dad's; one at Mum's.


### Human: Because I was just thinking, "I'll copy you one," and went, "No, that's not going to work if you're at Dad's and this is at Mum's."### Assistant: Yes. Yes. And then we'll do two copies and I can just put it up on the wall or put it in my wardrobe at Dad's on the front of it. I've got Blu Tack that I can put on it, so.


### Human: Great. And we can review it next time to see is this working? Do we need to change anything?### Assistant: That looks a lot neater than that one there, instead of just--


### Human: And that--### Assistant: --writing it all down. It looks a lot neater.


### Human: And sometimes you need to trial it out to go, roughly, what will it look like and to put it down.### Assistant: Yeah. Looks pretty good, though.


### Human: Okay. Realistic?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah?### Assistant: This one looks a bit messy, but it doesn't matter. That was just playing around a bit.


### Human: Yeah. Figuring out the times and stuff.### Assistant: Yeah. Looks pretty good.


### Human: Good. And we've got a little bit of time, so maybe we can start on talking a little bit about sleep, and maybe do you think we'll check in on that and maybe focus more on sleep next time? Does that sound--?### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah.


### Human: Because you're going to bed-- we've got the back of what we did last time. You're going to bed at 9:30 but you're not really asleep until--### Assistant: Around ---


### Human: --1 o'clock?### Assistant: --or 1:00, yeah. Sometimes go to bed at around about 11:00 and depending on how much I've done in the day because I do do a lot of exercising on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.


### Human: So you more do--### Assistant: And Friday, I do-- that is at Dad's, so I do sport at school, and I'm good at that one--


### Human: You get that?### Assistant: --for long.


### Human: Yeah. So--### Assistant: And then Wednesday, I'm doing sport at school.


### Human: So Wednesday's sport at school.### Assistant: And Tuesday as well.


### Human: Just good to know what's at school. Yeah.### Assistant: And Thursday and Friday. Thursday, I'm doing sport at school. And Wednesday and Friday as well. Yeah. Wednesday, I'm doing sport and also football training, and then Friday's just doing football training.


### Human: And for these days, is your sleep different with getting to sleep depending on if you've done sport or not?### Assistant: Yeah. Mondays, sometimes I even go to bed at 1:00. Some days, if I've done enough--


### Human: Yes. And is that because it's hard to get to sleep?### Assistant: Yeah. And if I've done enough running on a Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday or Friday, I may go to bed at around about 11:00 or 12:00.


### Human: Because you say you go to bed 9:30, does that mean you fall asleep? Is that what you're meaning?### Assistant: No. That's when Mum sends us to bed. So Mum sends us to bed at around about 9:30.


### Human: And what do you--?### Assistant: 10 o'clock's when Dad sends us to bed. And I sort of get to bed around about the same time on the weekday and weekend.


### Human: So it's about 10:00 PM, between 10:00 to 11:00?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep. And that's because you're lying in bed for the hour?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: You've gone to bed, you're in bed, but you can't fall asleep?### Assistant: Yeah. I try to go to sleep but I just can't.


### Human: So when you've exercised more, it's easier to fall asleep?### Assistant: Yeah. Because I'm a lot more tired. Yeah. It depends if I've done a lot of running.


### Human: Yeah. So your energy levels are impacted then on what--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --goes on too, yeah?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Which makes sense because often when you exercise, you're more tired and it sounds like it's easier.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: And do you feel less paranoid when you're more tired, that it's easy to fall asleep?### Assistant: I still get--


### Human: ---### Assistant: --paranoid. But I guess how long I can physically keep myself awake is a lot less when I've exercised and done stuff during school.


### Human: Okay. And how about Saturdays and Sundays?### Assistant: Saturdays and Sundays, Dad sends us to bed at around about-- well, Mum sends us to bed and Dad said that they want us around about 10 o'clock to go to bed. But at Dad's, might be going to bed at around about maybe 1:00 in the morning on a weekend. Obviously, that's not possible because we've got games, so depending on that, that means that we're going to have to go to bed a lot earlier. But at the moment, Dad says that TV in the lounge room has to be turned down a lot because their bedro


### Human: Yep. And I've brought this in to remember the--### Assistant: --so-- yeah. So the--


### Human: --setup.### Assistant: Yeah. So the main lounge room gets turned off-- well, it doesn't get turned off. It gets turned down at around about 10:00 or 9:00, on volume, and Dad only comes out if we're awake at-- if we're awake till 3:00, he comes out and turns it off and tells us to go to bed. But that rarely happens. Normally, we fall asleep at around about 1:00. At Mum's, Mum sends us to bed at around about 10:00, and I go to bed at around about 11:00 or 12:00 on a weekend.


### Human: hours. So that's Dad's, and mother's 10:00. And you're asleep 1:00, was that, or 11:00? At Mum's 10:00 PM's bedtime, and what time are you asleep usually?### Assistant: Normally around about 11:00 or 12:00.


### Human: 11:00 to 12:00. 12:00 PM. Yep.### Assistant: Yeah. And that's around about . yeah, on Dad's, though. So we fall asleep at around about 1:00-ish. So--


### Human: So that's roughly, in my very nice neat writing,  is what it looks like at the moment.### Assistant: Yeah. That's how it looks like, yeah.


### Human: So it'd be helpful to focus on what goes on that it can take you an extra hour and a bit to fall asleep, for next time.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: How's that sound? And if you want to have a think of any examples for us to problem-solve together with dealing with problems better.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah?### Assistant: But otherwise, it's a pretty productive. I usually like--


### Human: It does look pretty productive.### Assistant: --a lot of colors.


### Human: Colors are good. I'm a big fan of colors because you can see it easier.### Assistant: Yeah. It makes it a lot easier. Normally, I don't color-code, but sometimes I do, depending on--


### Human: Some things are just easier color-coded, to get your head around. I'll put this one back so we've got it for next time. Good job.### Assistant: Looks pretty good.


### Human: Anything else you wanted--### Assistant: : for later.


### Human: --to do today, or you think we've done a good job?### Assistant: Nothing else, really. I really wanted to focus on getting this a bit more organized and a bit neater.


### Human: Yeah. Which we've definitely done, I feel.### Assistant: Yeah. And I can have that both at Mum and Dad's, and I can tell Dad what I'm doing and--


### Human: So they both know.### Assistant: --I'll know he'll support it. He's big on school because-- yeah, he's big on school because he knows that I don't like going to school and that I don't like doing--


### Human: Homework and stuff.### Assistant: --homework and just don't like doing maths, all that sort of stuff. I only do it if it was sport-related, which is most of my stuff at the moment.


### Human: So that's really positive that there's a lot that is sport-related?### Assistant: Yeah. Because I've got Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday during school, yeah, where I've got my school things, my school sessions on, and I get homework for them, and I always do it because it's-- a sport and I just love-- I like to do it and--


### Human: So it's what you enjoy, which--### Assistant: --and things like--


### Human: --makes sense--### Assistant: Yeah. Like on a Monday or a Tuesday or a Wednesday, all the way, every single day at school I have sums. Once a day I just go, "No, I can't be bothered doing it." So, yeah, I've just got to figure them out and then, yeah, I just need to do them. And if Dad knows the times that I'm doing homework then, yeah, Monday and Tuesday are now when I'm going to be able to get that done because Dad gets home late and it's a bit too hard. So, yeah, it just means that I have to do it that w


### Human: We'll try it out.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: So next time I'll see you, it'll be school holidays.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah? We'll check if she has a next appointment booked in and we'll go from there.### Assistant: so we might have-- I'm not sure. Mum, probably-- depending on went the next one is. So either-- because so I think this is how it--


### Human: Where are you at-- where were you at this week?### Assistant: So this is week-- we're on week one now.


### Human: Week one, yeah.### Assistant: So this is week one. This is what it is at the moment. So at Mum's today, and tomorrow, we go Dad's after school, then we go back. So what happens is Friday, Saturday, Sunday, normally Dad would have us for Monday and Tuesday, but instead of doing that, because it's the first week of school holidays Mum has us for that week and then Dad has us for the second week. So week one--


### Human: It's kind of--### Assistant: --is the second week. And week two is-- so, basically, Mum. So after this, on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and Friday it's at this time, then Mum has us and then Dad has us the other week Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and we go back to school Wednesday because we're a private school. So instead of going--


### Human: Ah, so you've got a few days, yeah?### Assistant: So instead of going back on Tuesday, I think next term we go back-- so this term, next term, we start back on a Wednesday. The next term after that, we start back on a Tuesday. So they alternate. We get one day more, so the public school goes back on a Tuesday and we go back on the Wednesday, which is good because it means we get an extra day. So Dad has us Monday, Tuesday.


### Human: Does Dad take you here also, or is it Mum that's been taking you?### Assistant: Mum's been taking us here every single session. Dad has taken us a few times. He knows how important this is because Mum and Dad both decided together for us to do this.


### Human: And how are you finding it?### Assistant: It's all right. Yeah. It's helpful. I wouldn't have done any of this if it was just me. I wouldn't gone, "Pfft." Just ignored it.


### Human: Which it can be easier to ignore when you're feeling stressed if you're less stressed, but then the stress can increase because you're not--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --planning things which can make it easier sometimes. So if there's anything else that's really stressing you, we can do something like this or whatnot.### Assistant: Yeah. So that's what's happening. We go back to Mum's on the Tuesday at around about the end of school time, so around about 4:00-ish. So when Mum-- no. That's what time we'd get there. So Mum would probably come pick us up around about then on the Tuesday, and then we go back to school on the Wednesday morning.


### Human: Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Shall we--?### Assistant: Wait. Or do we get to Wednesday off?


### Human: Is the Tuesday--?### Assistant: No. Ah, I get it. So term one is we'd normally go back to school on the 30th or 31st. Term two, we go back on the Tuesday. Term three, we go back on the Wednesday, and then term four, we go back on the Tuesday again. So it's only term three that we go back on the Wednesday. No. We go back on the-- this could--


### Human: Because when you go back to school, isn't that the weekends, that day? back to the Tuesday?### Assistant: ---


### Human: And that's probably why you start on Wednesday this term.### Assistant: I know that we do get a Wednesday off and we go back on a Thursday. I can't remember--


### Human: When.### Assistant: That might be term three, but every other day, we go back on the Tuesday.


### Human: Tuesday. Yeah.### Assistant: Every other term. I know that one term, we go back on the Wednesday. I know one term.


### Human: You'll keep me posted when you--### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: --find out? Shall we check and see-- I'll turn this off.### Assistant: Okay.


### Human: Okay.### Assistant: Cool.


### Human: All gone. So it's Mom's this week.### Assistant: Yep.


### Human: Yep. And then Dad's next week.### Assistant: And then Dad's next week. So we just came back from Dad's on the Monday after--


### Human: From school.### Assistant: Yeah. Monday afternoon.


### Human: I think using this is going to help me figure out which week we're on.### Assistant: Yeah. So we are on--


### Human: So I brought it in so we can--### Assistant: So we just come off--


### Human: Wednesday. Is that--?### Assistant: Because it's--


### Human: Or is it a bit different?### Assistant: Because it's holidays, we have a week with Dad, well, around about. It's not a straight week with Mom, a straight week with Dad. But I think we came off--


### Human: It was--### Assistant: No. We came off Dad's week. So Dad had us from the Friday after school.


### Human: Because this was week one last week when we saw each other.### Assistant: Yeah. So--


### Human: We were on here, yep.### Assistant: Yeah. We had Dad on the Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday afternoon, and then we went back to Mom's for Tuesday and Wednesday. Today's Thursday, isn't it?


### Human: Yes. Yep.### Assistant: Yeah, it is. So Thursday. So we go back to Dad's-- I think it is-- I think it works out to be that-- Mom's, Mom's, Mom's, Mom's, Mom's, Mom's. Then we had Dad's. Yeah. So we have Mom till Monday, till Monday afternoon. So then it goes back up to here. So it's sort of acting like what happened.


### Human: So week, week, yeah.### Assistant: So we go back Monday right about 4:00 like we did last time. And then we have Dad all the way till Sunday and also Monday and Tuesday.


### Human: And then you're going on a camp soon, Mom was telling me.### Assistant: And we're going on a camp for three days for our mission trip which is coming up.


### Human: What kind of trip? Emission? What's that?### Assistant: So the mission trip is-- what's that? Vanuatu. So we go to--


### Human: Oh, awesome.### Assistant: --Vanuatu for-- I think it's two weeks, I think we go for. Around about there.


### Human: Is that with Mom you're going to Vanuatu?### Assistant: This is at school.


### Human: Yep. At school, yep.### Assistant: So we go with-- so we have groups. So there's two mission groups.


### Human: Oh, mission. I thought you said immersion, and I was like, "What's immersion?" Mission groups. Gotcha. Yes. Yep.### Assistant: Yeah. So there's two mission groups, and they go into two different places. So I can't remember the other one, but our group's going to Vanuatu. and we plan, we teach, and all that sort of stuff for a few weeks. And then we come back. Yeah. Then we come back to school. So I think it's around about two weeks, I'm pretty sure we go for. So we teach the kids there sport. We go do some looking around lifestyle and that sort of stuff. But yeah. Everyone has to teach at least a class.


### Human: Yep. And how old are the kids?### Assistant: Well, we were doing from Prep all the way to Year 4, I'm pretty sure. Because the teachers also take a class. So the teachers were taking Year 5s, and we had 4s, 3s, 2s, and 1s, and Preps to choose from. So me and the person that I'm working with are doing Year 2s.


### Human: Yep. Year 2s.### Assistant: So what happens is there's-- so there's one group, and we've split them up into two little groups. So there's two groups in the mission group, which confusing there's so many groups. But so one person does a certain year level. So one group would do Prep to 4, and the other group would also do Prep to 4. But they do them different days, I'm pretty sure. So we'll be teaching, let's say, the Year 2s, or we might cut off-- there might be a certain day or a time during the day where the other


### Human: Yep. So maths and English, yep.### Assistant: We have to teach some-- we have to teach some sort of sport. There was something else, but I know-- yeah. But we had to--


### Human: That's all right. There's something else.### Assistant: We had to teach maths in English because that's one of their big things. They teach them maths in English over there, and they also do their spelling normally in-- yeah. They normally do their normal spelling and all that sort of stuff.


### Human: Yep. And does everyone in a year level do this? The mission?### Assistant: Well, you don't have to. The idea of this was that you'd put in a thing and whoever wanted to do mission would go do it. And the people that didn't want to go do mission had to do work experience during that time. So while we're on mission, the rest of the year level that didn't want to go to mission have to do work experience for that time that we're there. So basically, the whole Year 10 level is gone. So there's no Year 10s at school. All of them are working.


### Human: And when is it that the mission-- do you know the dates when you're on it?### Assistant: I think Mom does. I don't know them yet. We haven't explained the dates that we go yet.


### Human: Because I've booked in an appointment when Mom's away, and Mom probably was sure that you're not away then.### Assistant: Yeah. 100%.


### Human: I'll plop--### Assistant: I hope that--


### Human: Because--### Assistant: Yeah. I hope that that week--


### Human: I'll plop it on a card in case we finish up before Mom does, and she can call if there's any issues, because your grandparents were going to take you in on a Friday afternoon in a few weeks.### Assistant: In a few weeks.


### Human: Did Mom talk to you about that or not just yet because it's a bit in the future?### Assistant: Mom hasn't said anything about that as I know that we're with Dad for the second week until Tuesday. So unless Mom's talking about that Friday or the Friday in Dad's week, I'm not sure. I have to speak to Mom about that now.


### Human: All good. We'll follow it up. I'll write the date on a card. And when I spoke to Mom, she said that'd be fine and your grandparents would be able to take you on.### Assistant: Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's--


### Human: Take you over there.### Assistant: --week back to school.


### Human: And then, yep, that should--### Assistant: Yeah. Oh, it can't be, because we've got the three-day trip, unless we go back on the Tuesday.


### Human: Last time we were discussing what day you do get back.### Assistant: Yeah. I don't know that yet.


### Human: And I realize, looking back now, I've been a week ahead of myself when I think Anzac Day is in two weeks, and each time it's like a month away. But you probably go back on Tuesday because of Easter Monday.### Assistant: Yeah. Probably. That's probably what happens.


### Human: And that's a three-day thing that you have on.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. We have the three days. If Mom's organized not to get me here when we're not doing mission trip, we might actually--


### Human: When is--?### Assistant: --go back to school on the Tuesday.


### Human: When is mission trip start?### Assistant: The mission camp?


### Human: Yep. When is that?### Assistant: The mission camp starts first day back at school from the holidays.


### Human: This term, yeah?### Assistant: Yeah. So , we'll come back. We'll come back from holidays. And we will go straight into mission for the three days, and then we come back. So it's sort of like a mini camp. It's a mini mission camp, so it's practice.


### Human: Oh, and the Vanuatu-- when's that? Because I think I've confused my understanding. So that's the three days. That's what Mom was talking about, the three days.### Assistant: Yeah. The mini camp is the--


### Human: That's the mini camp, yep.### Assistant: --three-day camp which goes, probably, from Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.


### Human: Yep. That's what Mom was talking about.### Assistant: The mission trip, we've spoken about the dates. I don't exactly remember. I know it's pretty far in.


### Human: So I was understanding that that was the one you're going away for two weeks.### Assistant: Yeah. Because--


### Human: So it's the mini camp you're going on now.### Assistant: Yeah. Because Dad's girlfriend, sarah, is having.


### Human: Step 2, session 6, 2011. Continue.### Assistant: So yeah, it's been good.


### Human: Tell me some more about you.### Assistant: A little bit happier. Well--


### Human: You look a lot happier than last time too.### Assistant: I am a little happier. Especially the four weeks made different--


### Human: What did this--### Assistant: Well, made new friends. School's out right now. What we were both heading to is the fact that we didn't have a lot of friends at school and sort of looking at going back.


### Human: And we started having a lot of discussions around what a friend means to you. What's changed? Because you were saying you can't-- from memory, you can't really trust the people at school, or they weren't really interested in sports like you were?### Assistant: Yeah. Just weren't interested in stuff that I was interested in. I found a friend that I do have some things that interest. I tried , and sort of stuff, feel the same.


### Human: That was important to you. Someone who jokes around.### Assistant: Yeah. There's still some people that sort of, they are not, but otherwise, I just sort of trust them, but not a lot.


### Human: Yeah. So you're cautious, but you know you can talk to them about some things, yeah?### Assistant: Yeah. Still keeping that contact with other friends from me as well, which is a good start.


### Human: So where are things at with school at the moment?### Assistant: Well, I was in trouble because mum and dad saw-- well, we went and saw a family psychiatrist or something like that.


### Human: Yep. Counselor, psychologist, or so, yep.### Assistant: And we ended up talking about what they could do to help us and lots of stuff, and we did that. And also, thinking about the best plan for how long we spend at Mum's and how long we spend at Dad's, so that went through as well. And we put in half and half, so it would be one week with Mum and one week with Dad.


### Human: Yep. Which is what you were wanting?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep, 50/50.### Assistant: Until our birthday where we could figure out-- because at 16, the courts say that if we were to get our-- so we've got the 50/50, but we don't want to do it anymore, and Mum wants to take that to court and it doesn't exactly get looked at because they think it's a waste of time because we're old enough to make decisions like that, so unless how we're feeling, we can sort of flip between houses whenever we want. I think that's one thing though. I have to really speak with Dad abou


### Human: No, you can take it off if you like, keep it on if you want.### Assistant: Feeling just talking to you, it's sort of like a--


### Human: At that level.### Assistant: So yeah, I have to speak about Dad about that. He's got a bit more understanding than I do, and he and I--


### Human: When does that come into play?### Assistant: I have no idea. I know that Dad and Mum had it just them, having a conversation with him about it. They went back after we'd gone because it was just us four and then it was just Mum and Dad that wanted to come back-- wanted Mum and Dad to come back and speak about that, so I wasn't-- it comes into play. I think, again, I have to speak to Dad, Dad's got a bit more understanding. Mum doesn't like to speak about that stuff because she reckons it's just between her and Dad, but it invo


### Human: And you said you and I? I interrupted you. You were about to say something.### Assistant: Oh, and you and I are on the exact same page.


### Human: Great.### Assistant: In fact, whatever we do, we decided it'd be us two figuring it out, so it wasn't really what I wanted to do and what i wanted to do, we sort of found out stuff. And at the moment, what you and I want to do is sort of the exact same thing.


### Human: And what is you both want to do?### Assistant: Well, we both want to have half and half and in January we were going to speak with Dad, mum and I, and then end up speaking to Mum about it, just us four about it and figuring out what we can do, so whether or not we spend more time with Dad or we want to keep the half and half if it works out well. Then we can go on from there or we wanted to spend all the time with Dad and spend a weekend with Mum, which is what was originally-- but we'd only see Dad for a weekend. So that's what w


### Human: Yep. What do you think that's about that she doesn't take the--### Assistant: The fact that we don't want to be around her as much. That's the thing she finds hard to understand.


### Human: And what's that about for you that you don't want to be-- refresh my memory from--### Assistant: Ah, she's just-- she doesn't really hide her emotions very well, so if something happened, nothing to do with us, she'd come home crappy, and that sort of made it hard for us because we'd get home and she'd get home, and we'd be up on the computer or something, we'd be on our phones, that sort of thing, and she'd immediately come home and start getting us to do stuff. As soon as she walked through the door, there'd always be something wrong in what we were doing or what we'd had done or we h


### Human: What not done. Yep.### Assistant: Yeah. And yeah, it was just sort of that side of things were hard and the fact that she-- I don't know if she's getting better or she's trying to, but she really likes to not hint that she's taking it-- because what angry she gets or take it out somewhere else, the fact she's hinting to take it out at Dad, but not really saying it. Because she says, "I'll take it out on someone else that deserves it," or that sort of stuff.


### Human: You get angry at Mum when she says take it out on someone-- does she?### Assistant: Yeah, I get angry at Mum and she says, "Go save it for somewhere else," or "Go take it out on someone else." That sort of thing. The fact that she's hinting towards Dad-- well, that's my understanding, like she's aiming at that, might not be. And the fact that she doesn't accept the fact that when we're angry at her, we're angry at her. She doesn't believe that we're angry at her, so that sort of thing, it's sort of hard to take. And we sort of spoke to the psychiatrist guy that Mum and Dad


### Human: That's great you were able to say that. Because that would've been really hard to go, "Hey, this is where I'm feeling," so that Mum knows where you're at so you can find that middle ground.### Assistant: Yeah. And again, she didn't take it very well.


### Human: What do you mean by that, she didn't take it very well?### Assistant: The fact that we don't want to be with her because she's hard to live with, the fact that she's constantly barking orders at us, and the fact that we're angry at her. She doesn't like to believe that we are. She sort of saw that as the fact that she's not doing any of that, which is what she normally does. So it's sort of what was going on. I think it was after we got back.


### Human: And when did you get back? Last--### Assistant: We got back from Vanuatu Sunday last week.


### Human: Sunday last week, yep.### Assistant: And we got back from Thailand weeks ago. Back on a Saturday. Yeah, about three weeks ago. Three weeks ago we got back from Thailand, we had a week of school, and then we went and had-- and got back. Which is what I thought it was, which was we had a week of school and then we had Vanuatu thing with the school, sorry.


### Human: Yep, that's what you said it was going to be was three weeks, a week--### Assistant: It's going to be a week of school, and then we go--


### Human: And then school holidays, yep.### Assistant: And then we'd go and then we'd be-- the first week of school holidays would be in-- yeah, would be in our-- yeah, we'd be in Vanuatu the first week of school holidays, and then we'd come back and we'd have another week of school holidays and two days.


### Human: Yep. So you're not at school today?### Assistant: No.


### Human: Oh, you still got it off?### Assistant: Yeah, we've had-- we go back to school Wednesday starting third term.


### Human: And you were telling me, I remember, the last time going, "It's two days and I started Wednesday one term, that you started a Tuesday another term," and weren't sure which term it was.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Hence, why you're not in your sports uniform today.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah, because I would be in sports uniform today. Yeah, so that's what-- yeah, so we go back to school tomorrow. So we had Monday off as well, which is good.


### Human: How're you feeling about going back?### Assistant: I'm sort of a bit happier.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Still sort of half and half, but yeah, a lot happier of the fact to get back into the swing of things and get back into school.


### Human: Yeah. And are you okay with that at the moment?### Assistant: Yeah, at the moment. Sort of half and half. Still looking at going back, but yeah, sort of happy to be there at the moment. At least for the fact that you know. If the friends that I have, our religion side of things, we don't have to--


### Human: You're not too keen on the religion?### Assistant: No. That we don't have to do it and we weren't going to move until the end of the year anyways, and we don't have to do it for year 11 and 12, and it's only up to year 10, so that sort of is also-- I did better as well.


### Human: What is it about the religion thing that you don't like?### Assistant: I don't believe in God and that sort of stuff, so it's a bit uncomfortable because of the fact that it's so-- that's them as a school, so.


### Human: That would be different to the way it would work.### Assistant: Yeah. So that was good to find out the fact that I don't have to do it for year 11 and 12, which is good, so.


### Human: That changed your way of thinking a bit too?### Assistant: Yeah. Whether or not I wanted to stay at the school or that sort of thing.


### Human: So you're 50/50 at the moment, but it's okay.### Assistant: It's okay to be here at the moment I think.


### Human: Yep. That's good to hear because last time it was really tricky and you were really not liking school because of the friendships. It sounds like meeting someone new that you click with more has made it a bit more comfortable at the school.### Assistant: Yeah, yeah. And a few other people that I would never thought of even talking to.


### Human: What made you choose-- what happened that you started talking to them?### Assistant: Because it's the sort of thing that you're just talking to them for two weeks and you're in groups with them.


### Human: Aw, so this was from Vanuatu?### Assistant: Yeah. So I found that easier.


### Human: Yep. So it sounds like going to Vanuatu's had a big impact?### Assistant: Yeah. I thought I would be sitting there alone, speak to no one, and that one person that I really knew and a few other people that I'd spoken to a few times. Yeah, it was only us four boys and the rest were girls, and we split into 11 kids, so.


### Human: Is that four boys, including me?### Assistant: No, we were split up into groups.


### Human: You were split up, yep.### Assistant: So there was four boys and there was 11, so there was six girls, 11 kids. So 22 kids, and then they split them up, I think. So yeah, the majority of them were girls. There were hardly any boys, but it didn't really matter and you sort of found-- yeah, other people to talk to that were all right, so that was good.


### Human: That's good to hear. And what would you like to focus on in counseling? We had a few goals from last time when we spoke, but I was wondering if anything's changed or if it's similar stuff you want to work on?### Assistant: Not really. Not really anything's changed.


### Human: Do you want me to spark your memory of what we had written down as the goals? Would that help?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: We had you wanted to improve your sleep, manage your time better, and dealing with problems better, in particular, communicating with Mum. Are they still similar, or something you think is going okay that's not really a goal anymore? I don't--### Assistant: Improving sleep, don't need to focus on at the moment. I'm really tired from being away for so long. Going back on planes, so I've been getting to sleep a bit easier.


### Human: Right. Sleep's easier. You said that when you're physically tired, you sleep better?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: I had, I think-- we had written down that one-- the back of that on a different one, but you're saying-- are you still seeing the blurs? Is that still happening?### Assistant: Yeah. I've been normally getting to sleep at around about 11:00, 12:00 now.


### Human: 11:00, 12:00. And has it been hard to fall asleep, or you're able to?### Assistant: I'm able to because I sort of sit down on bed and I can't keep my eyes open. I just sort of relax a bit and then that's it.


### Human: What's that that you relax a bit, because that's something you previously said has been really hard to relax. What--### Assistant: If I'm really tired, I can't keep my eyes open, I'll just close my eyes and I sort of just start to drift off and that's it. That's when I've been doing for the past-- that's been happening for the past three nights.


### Human: Have you seen the blur or heard any sounds? Or do you feel you fall asleep and that hasn't--### Assistant: I haven't really heard any sounds because it's cold, the sounds don't really happen as much.


### Human: What do you think that's about. It's cold, the sounds don't happen as much.### Assistant: Because when it's hot, Mum keeps the windows open. And there's little wooden beads on the end of it because our blinds, we pull them down, and they've got little things and they pull them closed. So you don't need to close them. They're little canvas things-- canvas blinds, and when you shut them, they got little wooden beads on the end. When the window's open, they crash in and on to the skirting around the windows. So now because they're all closed, I don't hear the noises much. The fridge


### Human: How often is that?### Assistant: The fridge normally turns off at the same time because the temperature gets to the point and it just shuts off.


### Human: So it sort of shuts off, and--### Assistant: That sort of depends-- it stops working as hard to get the fridge cool. I don't know, it doesn't happen at certain times, it happens--


### Human: Just when it happens.### Assistant: Yeah, when it's--


### Human: And is that every night that scares you or every few nights, or?### Assistant: Mostly happens every night. Sort of keeps me awake because you hear that voice. So it's sort of turning off the elements-- the other elements, so that scares me a bit.


### Human: So that's most nights, it sounds like, but you said that it hasn't-- has that not been impacting on you the last week or so? You said you've been really tired.### Assistant: Hasn't been impacting me in the last week, but that's just been one of the normal sounds that I hear. I got someone who banged on the door handle to know if people are coming into his room, which sometimes that can, I guess, basically like-- because it's ceramic, hits against the wooden door. Makes like a ting and that wakes me sometimes.


### Human: And then how do you go falling asleep after you hear the sound and wake up? Because you've said it can be really hard to go back to sleep, but you said you've been sleeping--### Assistant: I sleep the same before I did with traveling, before I was traveling. It hasn't really changed. It's still hard to go back to sleep.


### Human: How many times do you wake up, do you feel, from hearing something? Obviously you don't keep track in your sleep and count.### Assistant: I don't really keep track of how many times. Probably about three or four I hear a noise or something like that.


### Human: And that's been the same as before holidays?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Roughly, yeah.### Assistant: Even before Thailand. Thailand was really easy because you're doing so much and Vanuatu's easy because we were doing so much. Actually, Vanuatu, not as much, but I still finding it hard to go to sleep there. But because we were constantly doing stuff over in Thailand, swimming in the pool, that sort of thing, I did genuinely get tired, so.


### Human: And did you hear sounds or see a blur when you were in Thailand or Vanuatu?### Assistant: Sort of when the lights turned off and stuff a little bit because I didn't know-- I don't know the room, so the light when people come in, that sort of thing. If anyone was to come in, there's a balcony that was pretty easy to get through, that sort of thing, so I don't really know what-- but yeah, still found it and there was a dividing door between Dad and mom's room. I believe mom and I, us three, and then it was Dad and me in the other room. So that was a bit-- yeah


### Human: So you had some thoughts of what if someone comes in?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Did you think someone actually would, or was it more of what if?### Assistant: It was sort of like if someone would.


### Human: Yep. If someone, what would I do? Kind of like protecting yourself, yeah?### Assistant: Yeah. Different country and it was the same in Vanuatu.


### Human: Yep. So that's wanting to feel safe. Yep?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: And have you been at Mum's or Dad's the last two weeks?### Assistant: In the past two weeks, I've been at Dad's for a few days and Mum's. I'm still at Mum's.


### Human: And the sounds--### Assistant: Going back into the normal routine.


### Human: Yep. So is back into this one?### Assistant: Same one, yeah.


### Human: Exact same one? I still have--### Assistant: I'm not staying Thursday and then we go back to Dad's Wednesday and we go to Mum's Thursday and then we go back to Dad's Friday, Saturday, Sunday.


### Human: Yep, that's it.### Assistant: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday is Mum's.


### Human: Stayed exactly the same? i had a different day potentially.### Assistant: That should be. Yeah, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, back at Dad's Thursday, at Mum's Friday, Dad's Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and then next Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.


### Human: Yep. I think you started with this week, that's why I was confused looking at this one. Got it.### Assistant: Yes, we're with Mum Monday, Tuesday.


### Human: And are the sounds at Mum's and Dad's?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep. And the blur, was that at Mum's or Dad's, or that has been happening--### Assistant: That's both at Mum and Dad's.


### Human: And it's still a crack in the door, or is it different, the blur?### Assistant: I close the door at Dad's now. I can't close my door at Mum's.


### Human: What's that about that you can't close it Mum's.### Assistant: Hangs the towel on the door.


### Human: Physically can't close it, yep.### Assistant: Yeah, so I push it hard as I can and I can't see anything through it, but my room's still light enough to unplug my nightlight and it's still light enough to--


### Human: What's that because that's changed, because you used to have the nightlight-- what's changed that you unplug it?### Assistant: Just the fact that because when I first had the nightlight on, it was sort of like, "Aw, it's all right, I can't be able to see," but then I started seeing stuff because it was too bright. It started seeing shadows inside my room thinking that someone was there, but then I wake up, I think I see something at the door and it's not. not bright enough to see, and now I've unplugged the nightlight, it's a lot darker.


### Human: So was that helpful?### Assistant: So I guess I can't see anything now, so I'm a bit more worried, but I can't see because it was light enough that I could see something that-- stay awake because I thought I'd see someone, making me awake again and making it harder for me to sleep, and so yeah, that was sort of like a-- so that was the problem that I had with that, but now-- so the fact I can't-- sorry.


### Human: No, you're all right.### Assistant: The fact that I can't see in, so if I was to see a shadow, it wouldn't-- it wouldn't like scare me a bit, so that's why I unplug the nightlight, and--


### Human: Because that would decrease you feeling scared because it's too dark to see anything.### Assistant: Yeah. I think that someone's there, but if I can't see the shadow, it doesn't make me-- because I don't think someone-- because when I saw the shadow, I think someone's there and that makes me awake again.


### Human: So by keeping it dark, you don't see a shadow that used to worry you, "What if someone's there?"### Assistant: And that's what the problem was, and then I put the nightlight on and it seems like-- was a rock for ages, and then sort of started moving into light and I could start seeing things, even with the light on. Yeah, start seeing shadows.


### Human: Because the light was there to help with seeing the shadow initially, wasn't it? Yep.### Assistant: Yeah, so I didn't see any shadows and I had the thing and the fact could someone be there. But now it's sort of like, "Yeah, I can see the shadows, I'm seeing things," so it was a bit hard, so I unplugged it.


### Human: When did you unplug it?### Assistant: Before I left for Thailand. A few weeks before that.


### Human: Yep. And you're finding-- because you say it's easy to get to sleep, so you don't see a blur or anything or hear anything else?### Assistant: Not at the moment because I'm so tired and I still am physically drained from being sick.


### Human: And are you hearing any sounds at the moment? Say in the last week?### Assistant: I still am, but sort of not-- so tired it's sort of not-- it's like, "Yeah, I can hear it." So like that. I still have problems because I have to go the toilet.


### Human: Yeah. How do you go, needing to the go to the toilet in the middle of the night?### Assistant: I sort of hold on and then go to sleep, but I do wake up because I have an infection in my ankle coming back from Vanuatu.


### Human: How'd that happen?### Assistant: I ended up falling through a hole in concrete and got a little scrape and it was fine until the Sunday morning when I came back and it's going through. I've had antibiotics. It doesn't hurt to walk on it anymore, so I've been drinking a lot of water because it's been taking a lot out of me, and that's adding--


### Human: So that would add on into--### Assistant: And I needed to really go and I'm like, "I can't hold it or I'm going to piss myself in bed," so I had to get up and I went into the thing and I put it on lock and it was sort of looking back, and--


### Human: Was this in Vanuatu or home?### Assistant: No, it was just as home. And yeah, so I got-- went to bend and then-- so I went to the toilet and then I opened the door with the light on and then quickly turned it off and then ran. And again, leaving the door open. This was like 7:00 o'clock in the morning, still pretty dark, and-- actually, it was probably about 6:00 in the morning or something like that. Even earlier then that because I know this is the time I had to wake up to go to hospital to get X-rays and bloods done and that sor


### Human: That makes sense you'd go to work to get that done.### Assistant: Yeah. So I don't know when--


### Human: That would have been?### Assistant: Yeah, it was probably around 5:00 o'clock because it was still really dark and I heard a creaking noise, so I still didn't go to sleep. Was my point really. So I've got to wake up anyway, so I stayed awake and I started hearing the creaking of the toilet door because I didn't close it properly.


### Human: And where do you think that comes from that you have that-- you freak out with, "Is someone in the house?"### Assistant: I have no idea.


### Human: Because you spoke a while ago saying that hearing sounds-- because you used to hear Mum and Dad arguing maybe.### Assistant: Yeah, sort of frightened me, that sort of stuff. Yeah, it could be. I don't know. I really don't know what the thing is.


### Human: And you've never been broken in to or someone you know that's been broken into the house before?### Assistant: People that you know have been broken into, I think, while they were sleeping or something, either in a room or someone else.


### Human: How old were you then?### Assistant: This was not long ago, to be honest. Before that, I had no idea.


### Human: And that was happening before?### Assistant: I didn't know anyone who had been broken into.


### Human: Just wondering if it maybe happened and that's where that piece come from, and it might not be.### Assistant: I reckon it's from the video games I play.


### Human: What do you think?### Assistant: I know that video games don't do it.


### Human: That's Mum's hypothesis.### Assistant: I sort of know video games do and they're not real. The fact of someone being there, or-- yeah. I don't know where it comes from.


### Human: What do you worry about with someone being there?### Assistant: Just someone being there watching and being in the house when-- and that sort of thing. It's a bit weird.


### Human: And why do you think someone would be in the house?### Assistant: No idea. Just something that exactly doesn't feel right.


### Human: Like you go, "What if?" Do you feel someone would be in the house? Is there a greater chance they would or wouldn't be?### Assistant: So like the fact that they could be, but they're sort of not.


### Human: Yep. You know that there's a greater chance there wouldn't be someone, but you really can focus on the what if someone is here.### Assistant: Yeah. It hasn't happened, but it's just sort of a thing that could be.