Premise: There's a -- no, look, there's a systemic problem. Health-care costs are on the rise because the consumers are not involved in the decision-making process. Most health-care costs are covered by third parties. And therefore, the actual user of health care is not the purchaser of health care. And there's no market forces involved with health care.
Hypothesis: There's a -- no, look, there's a systemic problem. Health-care costs are on the rise because the consumers do not have any authority in the decision-making process.