Isocrate, ilemden ɣur yisufsiyen, netta d aselmad n usekyes ; isem-ines d ulmud-ines caɛen nezzeh deg umaḍal n Regrig d win n Rum, acku yeɛreḍad yezdi asekyes d tuzzmas unadiɣef wawal n tidet. Aristote (364-322 qb. S.Ɛ.), netta, d anelmad n Platon, yettqamaren tasnukyest. Maca Aristote ur iḍfir ara abrid n uselmad-ines, Platon. Aristote yeǧǧa-d sin n yidlisen i d-yewwinɣef tẓuri-ya : Rhtorique & Potique.