its ok, be careful of the top tips one arrived broken, Wayfair team very quick and efficiently replaced however, go to show you if man-handled (hopefully not offending anyone with that term, seems people get offended easily these days...relax its a chair...lol) love that you can stack them! does hold water in the seat so you need to wipe down after rain. .....have had these chairs now for over 6 months still ok but would not buy them again because it does hold water every tome it rains and it rains alot in south fla.