The stools are nice and sturdy, I bought four stools, the boxes they where shipped in were totally destroyed, all the hardware to put the stools together was missing, I had to go to hardware store and purchase screws to put these together. They told me they were in stock, but took four days before they shipped them, three one day, the fourth the following day.  They sit lower than I expected. I will never do biz with these people again.