These are not being used outside, in fact they are being used for my dining room table/chairs. They are solid, heavy wooden chairs, hurt your butt....and these are perfect. I did measure my seat chairs before ordering, so make sure you do that....and they work great. I have neutral colors in my living, dining and garden rooms of beige, cream, brown & sage green. This year I added a POP of color to all 3 rooms (red)....They are made really nice, sturdy, the ties stay tied.