These are hands down the best drapes I have ever bought. I put them in our bedroom, and the patio door gets hot sun, and they are thermal lined. We have never had such privacy and when closed the room is dark! Even at day time! We are sleeping better and feel so cosy when drawn. They did have the smell when first put out, as others had stated, but i just opened the patio door for a day and GONE! Well worth the price, high quality drape.