If I would have seen these in person, I would not have bought them. They are not sturdy. I am a petite woman and the backs wigglemove when I sit in them. My husband put them together and he does this kind of thing all the time, so I know it’s not an assembly issue. Also, we’ve had them a week and the top of one chair is already scratched-I don’t see them standing up to the ware and tear of our household with 3 kids.