Wayfair was great, the ordering process worked smoothly and the chairs arrived early.  We ordered the fabric swatches to see which one we wanted to order and they never came.  I called Wayfair and they ordered them again yet I still never received any.  I also called the manufacturer twice and no one answered the phone during weekday business hours.  They don't seem to want customers.  It is a good thing they have Wayfair to sell for them. I tried to get some information from a local supplier but they also couldn't get the information from the manufacturer. The 25" chairs are a little higher than counter height which is fine for most people.  I am well over 6' so I find them about 2" to high.  Really glad we didn't order the upgraded fabric with added padding as it would have made it even higher. The quality of the chairs seems very good and the chairs are comfortable. I would recommend these chairs but not through the manufacturer.