Ok I haven’t used this item bc it took weeks and weeks to arrive. When it did I am shocked at how thin and light the box is. I was expecting a heavy durable pen, but this is barely 34 pounds, and for an 8 panel pen it should be closer to 50. I am trying to keep my German ShepherdPit puppies contained and I’m pretty sure they’ll drag this light thing through the house. If you’re using it for 1-2 SMALL dogs, this will be great but if you need something SUBSTANTIAL or with any kind of strength, this isn’t it.