These match the linden faucets in our new house, but they are a total pain in the you know what to install. Easy to place using the template, plate goes right where it should be on the wall. But securing the bracket to the plate is frustrating as can be. The top of the bracket is supposed to sit on top of the plate by hooking it into a tiny slot then you need to try and tighten a tiny set screw to go behind the bottom of the plate. Really? Is there no easier method? The Moen bars I put in the last house mounted on a post. Much easier to do.