The end product is a 10+++++ but the bases are not as study as I would like. One especially does wobble.  Also if decorating with anything that has a little weight, most branches wont hold it and will droop. BUT after fussing for quite some time to get the branches fluffed and even, they are full and have natural looking trunks.  The 450 lights is really the winner here.  For a woodland display, they are a real wow!