I was a bit hesitant about ordering this rug, but it had fairly good reviews, so I took a chance. This rug is so much more than described. The colors are vibrant, but not red, more of a wine color. It is thick so the pad is not really needed. It is a high quality rug, looks like you paid a million. I love it so much, I ordered 4 more rugs! I tried to upload a photo several times without success, the online photo does not do this rug justice - take a chance!