I paid a lot of money for these compared to what I could of purchased at my local big box store. I figured if I paid more they would be a better quality. Since I entertain a lot, I thought that was important that they be sturdy. The very first time anyone sat in them they complained about how unsturdy they seemed. The second day we found screws all over the floor where they had actually fallen out of the stool! My husband put them together and he is in the construction business! Don't buy them they are junk!