Alright, so these curtains were a labor of love.  The length that was sent was too long.  I ordered 84 inches, and no matter how tight you tie them, they were still too long.  Was going to send them back, but I went back and read the comments. One buyer said hers shrunk 6 inches. So I took a chance, I washed them in warm, dried them for 20 minutes, then almost dry, I hung to see if they shrunk. They did! So I ironed them, hung them back up and fussed like crazy to make the ties perfect so they barely touched the floor. They came out great.  Took off a star because of the aggravation. But ultimately very happy with the look and will order again for other room.  Color is popcorn, it’s a nice soft white. Not stark white, but not ivory.