My wife and I both wear the Refuge jacket and pants - we do long-haul loaded touring and these are the best waterproof jackets we have ever worn. There is nothing to point out that is a negative or even a compromise - we did 43 days down the Atlantic Coast and had plenty of very wet days, and while nothing on Earth will keep you dry in heavy, sustained periods of wet, these were great! They also have very reasonable care instructions for washing and drying - a huge plus when touring and using the coats often! Highly recommended to all!