My wife and I purchased these chairs well over 20 years when they were manufactured in the US. The new ones are made in Vietnam. Overall, we are happy with out purchase and the delivery time. The seat is very comfortable and the chairs appear to be well made. If this manufacturer redesigns the lower back portion or pads it, I would rate the chairs a 5. Delivery (not extra charge) was very good as the chairs arrived 4 or 5 days before expected.