I went ahead and lowered my standards because I didnt want to be disappoint.  Fact is, I was going to use them regardless, so I was just hoping for the best. One thing, when I was trying to visualize the size, they just seemed bigger when I opened the box....A welcome surprise...Not a problem!  Shipment came on time, packaged nicely and without any damage.   Not a thing to complain about!!!   I love them!  I was  very pleasantly surprised.   We havent installed them yet, but I dont see any problem with that either.   Very cool!!!   Thank you!!!  Ill update this post, if possible, when I order more.