These are certainly NOT JUST FOR CHURCHES AND OFFICES - a very good looking sturdy and comfortable chair to put around a big table in our finished basement for games etc. -- bought six and am very happy! No more gluing wooden chairs and pads -- these are indestructible and the padding is built in. Some people say the seat is hard - disagree completely -- it's firm in a comfortable way and the chair feels really good for sitting a long time - don't hesitate to buy. Also - very pleased with the great price - can't be beat! I'd give them more than five stars if I could.