The 12 cup programable and the spacesaver both druel (a lot) as you poor the coffee in to the cup. You must keep a dishtowel under them or poor over the sink to avoid a mess. The spacesaver also leaks water on the counter as it's making coffee. These coffeemaker have features one could find on any coffeemaker now a days, we purchased these because Black & Decker is suppose to be a well made product. Very disapointed in the design of the pour spout on both coffeemakers.