These are great pillows. I love the firmness but yet they are soft to lay on. They really keep their shape well in the pillow 
shams and look beautiful on the bed!  I recommend that you pay attention to the size that you order. I made a mistake and ordered standard instead of queen size. I like the way wayfair took care of the exchange and glad that they even offer queen size pillows. They are very hard to find!  Thanks Wayfair