These are the weirdest pillows I've ever owned. They're soft and lumpy and your head sinks so far into them you can't see the person laying in bed next to you. I used all 4 to prop myself up in bed to watch a movie and I couldn't get comfortable. I must've readjusted them 30 times. I have to use 3 of them to sleep comfortably. Thankfully I didn't throw out my old pillows!