I did not get to begin installing these until after the return limits. When I got them I checked them out and all looked fine. But, today when I put them up against the wall I saw how the hangers would not align flat to the wall like they're suppose to. If I bend them they will crack at the weld spot.  So the welder did not know what they were doing. I can't hang them without damaging them and with that they would then be useless. They look great in the pictures but are poorly made. If the metal hangers were straight and not bent in I would be able to use them. If I bend them they'll break at the weld.