I waited for these for 2 years! I was trying to buy them from another company that starts with an A and they were always out of stock. Wayfair had exactly what I wanted when I wanted it. Wish I had looked sooner. The sofas start out very firm but the more you sit the softer they get. Just had a bunch of sofa surfers camp out on them last week and they said they (loveseat and sofa combo) were very comfortable. For those of you that think they will forever be too firm, patience, people.