So I didn't read the description that well and thought these were dining chairs, not side chairs. The angle of the back plate is so severe, that to sit comfortably and lean all the way back is -- just odd. These have pretty good cushion and being skinny my legs don't even fit under my CB table anymore. I wish I could return, but well past my return date. I may try to resell online. They are far too oversized for a normal sized dining room + table.