I like these planters even though planting was a learning curb.... I cut some sail fabric to fit bottom and sides...there is a shelf half way up but you will have leakage if you don’t .... filled perlite a few inches to help with weight and I learned not to age it on cement..I put them up against the house and let them patina there...now they are beautiful...will look good in many placements. Corten isn’t cheap though but then that’s probably why I like it...