These bags felt weak, but I thought that was just a characteristic to get used to with the forceflex technology. Turns out they are very weak. We have never had this much trouble with garbage bags. Three out of five bags have ripped while trying to pull them out of the kitchen garbage can. They either burst out the bottom, the side, or the drawstring pulls away. We are going to double bag now so we can get through these 150 terrible bags. I am small and can easily lift the weight of our full 13-gal garbage can ~25-30lbs. There should be no reason these bags are tearing apart other than poor quality.