Have yet to install these. Several things were disappointing. (1) there are white lines in the fabric that were not mentioned or shown, (2) the fold lines and wrinkles have not relaxed out, even weeks later, and (3) I hate the black trim with a passion...at least the pics sort of show it. There was zero information provided about getting rid of the wrinkles and creases. I covered one side of the trim with colored duct tape which I will have to replace annually, I imagine, and I had to exacto knife the tape off the grommet holes. The manufacturer should make black ones with black trip, tan ones with tan trim. The whole point is to create a smooth clean look.