After searching for dining chairs for a couple of days prior I finally decided that these best suited my budget, the color I wanted and that modern look! The chairs appear lighter in the picture then they actually are but I was actually hoping for that! Also the backs of the chairs look higher on the picture but are actually shorter which I was really hoping for. This is a firm chair. We loved everything about these chairs! They're perfect and look great in our dining room! Wayfair also helped me do a few changes to my order and they were super helpful! I was always afraid of ordering from Wayfair but this is by far the best place to buy!!! Also I recommend getting the felt pads especially if you have hard wood floors.