Like most people, I am picky about my pillows.  I have traditionally used expensive down pillows and I do love them.  However, in this case, I needed to buy several pillows for my kids and for two guest rooms. I was not planning to use these for myself but I liked them so much that I ordered more and I now have them on my own bed.  These pillows have good substance and the gel fiber can be shifted allowing me to individualize where I want the support depending on if I am sleeping on my side or my back. The gel fiber is supportive but not in the least lumpy.  I found this pillow to be amazingly versatile and comfortable.