These are great chairs so far. I love the more modern look. The reason for 4 stars is that they are a complete pain to put together. I almost returned them until I read another review saying to not tighten all the screws before putting the back on. That did the trick. Where the back and the armrest come together, it is almost impossible to line up and if all the screw are tightened, it WILL NOT line up. Once I tried that, they went to get her somewhat easily and now they are a great addition to our front porch.