Continuing my review, hopefully both get published. I have had 4 chairs and a table holding down the ripples in this rug and it still ripples. The rug NEEDS a pad that will actually stick to it to hold it down. All that said, it is a GOOD thing I waited to order the rug before the pad- it is actually LARGER than the listing states! Sorry, I've NEVER had an area rug be anything but smaller. I only kept this because of the look- it's gorgeous and looks exactly as pictured.