These are beautiful, and look and feel like high quality curtains, however if you want black out panels these are not for you.  I read the reviews before that said they were not black out, and they are right, but over all exactly what I wanted, and a good buy.  Shipping was with UPS, and was delayed a few days.   I would prefer if FexEx delivered everything because the other items I bought were shipped on time, and arrived in a timely manner.