Sorry to say, I had to bite the bullet ($40 bullet of return shipping) and send these 2 chairs back.  Looked great, fabric super (gray) but the seat was as hard as an oak chair.  Several people tried them out and general comments were "Wow, beautiful" then "Can you return them?".  Would be nice in an office where you don't want your guests to linger more than 10 minutes.  :)   But I ordered something different because you still can't beat Wayfairs prices and styles.