I like the look and quality of this pair of lamps, but learned the hard way how lamp height is measured - the 20.5 inch advertised height is from lamp base to lamp socket assembly and does not include the shade. The shades that come with these lamps are substantial and add an additional 11.5 inches, so the lamps are 31.5 inches in height and ended up way too tall for where I had planned to use them. Would be helpful if lamp shade measurements were shown separately or 'total height with shade' measurement is provided in product details.