Okay, note to self to read the dimensions instead of just going off the picture.  I needed stools that were bar height (so more like 30" tall) and these stools are table height.  I have smaller kids that are really  liking them so I'm just going to keep them and look on the site for something in the 30" height.  I'm laughing - it pays to read the dimensions.  On that note, they seem to be good quality sturdy stools.