We just started to put together these chairs. And they are awesome. We previously ordered the Emmit Executive Office Chairs for our office and we liked those ones so much we wanted to order matching ones for our conference room. Unfortunately the brown was not available at the time of order so we got the Eliza ones instead. The Brown is a dark rich color and looks terrific against our red wall. The Eliza has better lumbar support then the Emmit but the Emmit has a wider seat. Either chair was a great value and we are super satisfied with our purchase.