I was very surprised when I opened the boxes containing a 12" and a 24" grab bar.  I had put grab bars, a different brand, in a previous bathroom remodel and loved them.  I found these Delta grab bars to be quite large and heavy and with arthritis in my hands, even a bit difficult to grab. I'm sure others would like them a lot, but I will be returning mine in exchange Moen Iso grab bars. Just be aware of the size.