Like this, it's very sturdy. I didn't think much about the drop factor, how much height of cabinet I would need, so bought for a cabinet that is a bit short and have had to make some weird choices on which items to hang on it. My husband said it was really hard to install, directions didn't make sense. This is the 3rd kitchen I've made him redo with all pullouts, so he's pretty good at this and hates this one.