ok - So, I can't fathom what I would have done if I had not ordered these chairs. First of all, the red is definitely more like a berry red - which is exactly what I wanted. Like other buyers, I spray painted the legs gold because I did not want the metal wood grain finish. They were easy to put together, and are surprisingly comfy. The best part? My kids are always handling these chairs, touching them with cheeto hands, spilling a little soup or drink here and there. They wipe up - SO easily. I'm so impressed - really.  Comfy, easy to clean, and very stylish.