we live in MN, we have a great back yard patio where we love to spend our time in the warm months. I'm always looking for a way to extend those days and evenings into the fall. We've had the fire pit. we've had the propane heater. I really didn't expect much out of this product, wasn't sure it would provide adequate warmth. I was wrong. this is excellent for 2-4 people. provides great warmth. recommended.