Decided to get one for the family get together this Thanksgiving. Read the reviewers, and bought one. Used an injection, put on a rub and fired it up. Took about 4 hours. 3 without the lid and 1 with. It was very cold, 20 degrees, light breeze. So that lengthend the time a bit. I just had to keep an eye on it. It was perfect. Can’t wait to use it again. Bought some of the attachments. Prime rib for Christmas.....