These are perfect. We planned to scrape the popcorn from our basement ceiling and put in pot lights but the popcorn removal didn't happen. So instead of pot lights, we opted for these - they are flat enough to not draw attention to themselves but bright enough to light up the space. They look like giant pot lights actually! If you're looking for a simple, minimalistic look, these are for you. We haven't figured out yet what we'll do when the light goes out and we need a replacement....but for now we're happy.