I am quite pleased with this rug for my Dining Room. It arrived 2 days later than expected, but was well worth the wait. I ordered the 8'x10' size. the  colors are beautiful. In my dining room it really doesn't need a pad but if I were to use it in a different room of my home I think I would want a pad under it because the pile is only about 38 to 12 thick by my estimation. Overall it is a beautiful looking rug for the price and since I purchased mine while it was on sale it's a great value.