seems like this is the common problem, they wont stay in! i have changed the silicone tips to see if that helped and it did, but just a tiny bit. i also had the buds plus and those fit amazing! that wing tip really came in great use! funny, i loved the matte black case from the buds, then the buds plus was glossy (not a fan), and now yay we have matte black again but what difference does it make when they dont stay or feel secure in your ear! the sucky part is i'll just pay again for an upgrade and hope that its better than this...oh well.