These chairs are gorgeous in person, a little on the firm side.  Thoroughly pleased with my purchase and can recommend. Be prepared though; screws and holes did not align on some of the 8 chairs ordered and took my husband Apprx 1 hour per chair to assemble. One chair, came with red paint on wooden legs. Wayfair by far has the best Customer Service I’ve ever dealt with and we had a new chair within 2 days and accommodated other requests for having to deal with drilling out own holes.