I am happy to have the new pans. I had an 8 qt pan since we got married and for some reason it recently disappeared. I asked family but no one new where it was. After a number of months being upset cause it was missing, I decided to replace it. The new one seems lighter than the one I originally had from years ago. I had it for 49 years. Ot was like loosing a part of me. Use it everytime we have a big get together or need to make a boog pot of something. That is often.